UPDATED Saturday, Nov. 24, 2012 at 11:45 am ET: President Obama ranks ninth among candidates for president in electoral-vote averages since 1896, according to a First Read analysis.
Mitt Romney's 203 EVs puts him 22nd of the 44 candidates who have gotten at least one electoral vote in that 116-year history.
First Read averaged the electoral-vote score of each of the runs for president for each candidate (who got at least one electoral vote).
Ronald Reagan takes the top spot with his average EV score of 507, followed by Lyndon B. Johnson's 486 in 1964 following the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt is third with his average of 469 across four successful presidential runs. Dwight Eisenhower follows with an average 449.5 across his two campaigns in the 1950s.
Bill Clinton, who comes in at No. 7, edges Obama 374.5 to 348.5.
George W. Bush is 15th with his 278.5, two spots behind his father's average of 297.
Al Gore's 266 lands him at 16; John Kerry's 251 puts him at 19.
John McCain's 173 EVs in 2008 put him at No. 24, tied with Jimmy Carter's average between 1976 and 1980.
Note: Prior to the 1908 election, Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Washington, DC, did not yet count. Oklahoma was first counted in in 1908. In 1912, Arizona and New Mexico were added. Hawaii and Alaska began being counted in 1960. DC came into play for the first time in 1964. In addition, California began getting at least 40 electoral votes in 1964. In the early part of the 1900s, up until the 1930s, California was below 20 EVs. States like New York have been on a steady decline in electoral votes, while states like Florida and Texas have seen a steady increase.
Presidential candidates, ranked by average Electoral College votes
1. Reagan 507
2. LBJ 486
3. FDR 469
4. Eisenhower 449.5
5. Harding 404
6. Coolidge 382
7. Clinton 374.5
8. Wilson 356
9. Obama 348.5
10. Nixon 346.7
11. Truman 303
11. Kennedy 303
13. H.W. Bush 297
14. McKinley 281.5
15. W. Bush 278.5
16. Gore 266
17. Hughes 254
18. Hoover 251.5
19. Kerry 251
20. Ford 240
21. T. Roosevelt 212
22. Romney 203
23. Humphrey 191
24. McCain 173
24. Carter 173
26. Taft 164.5
27. Bryan 164.3
28. Dole 159
29. Dewey 144
30. Parker 140
31. Davis 136
32. Cox 127
33. Dukakis 111
34. Smith 87
35. Wilkie 82
36. Stevenson 81
37. Goldwater 52
38. Wallace 46
39. Thurmond 39
40. McGovern 17
41. Byrd 15
42. Mondale 13
43. LaFollette 13
44. Landon 8
CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post incorrectly noted Harry Truman's Electoral College score. It should be 303 and is corrected above.


hahahahaha...
you must be from the hood...
so mature !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha
you must be from the hood...
Sorry about that time I spray painted 'Honky Lips' on your Family Truckster that one time you drove through my hood.
Bill O' Reilly (fair and balanced rightwinger) claimed last night on Fox that Obama won people making under $30,000 by 28 pts. Which must have meant 5-10 points in the election overall, nationally.
The bribes work, that's why Dems do it. That's why the number of people on handouts kept rising during Obama's first term even as the economy was supposed to be improving. He was buying votes for election time.
Obama lost the people who pay for everything (those making over $50,000), by 7 pts according to CNN.
He ran up the score with the people who pay nothing and expect freebies. As the Dems have trained them to do.
Chesty...
Bill O'Reilly - Fair & Balanced
Bwahahahahahaha... <ahem>
Oh here we go, Free stuff.
Chesty, Show us PROOF where Obama offered free stuff for votes. Provide us the link to a video where Obama Publicly said he was going to give his people free stuff for votes.
Awaiting PROOF of this so-called free stuff..
There's no specific contract. It's called they market to you how easy it is to get handouts--the Obama administration actually ran commercials with women talking about how everyone should get on food stamps because it covers all their nutritional needs, they ran around the country signing people up for free Obamaphones, so the size of that program doubled in 4 years.
They tried to get as many people on handouts as possible.
And who are the people that the Dems gave free stuff to going to vote for at election time? Especially with the Dems claiming mythical hard times ahead for government spending under Romney?
Why Dems of course. By 28 pts.
They don't need a contract. They give you free stuff and you vote for them to continue giving you free stuff. And that's why the bottom votes overwhelmingly for The Handout Party.
And the Proof it was a strategy by the Obama team was that the number on handouts kept rising as the economy was allegedly improving. If the economy was improving in 2011 and 2012, the number of people on handouts should have been slowly dropping, not rising as it was. The goal was not to help the needy, but to get people dependent on Democrats and the government.
so sad, america has become so divided and poor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robert b please visit the USA and look around. There's plenty of not-poor people. Go tot he malls, go to the eateries, pay attention to the vehicles on the road...
Then back to us...
The only thing "poor" is your biased view...
if i was planning to take-over or control it's people, my first thought would be where are they weak??????? how many are weak and is there enough of them????????? what do the weak want so i can get in???????????? and, i would promise to provide the way...!!!!!!!!!!
any fool can tell you america is bankrupt and the working people can't support all the people who don't these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you bet, he won with gifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
america has become a divided nation of lazy, incompetent, drugged-out of their minds,freeloaders who are truly just stealing from those who work and from those who are TRULY entitled to the hand-outs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the super power of pitiful, poor fools !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i can't wait until america goes all the way bankrupt and falls flat on it's face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
then, your politicians and it's people will be forced to do their damn jobs right and use some common sense to rebuild the right way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert move on bitter hater!!!
robert b I'll bet you can't wait for the country's collapse. You fall right into that nut job right wing club that hopes the President fails and will do wahtever you can to help that along instead of pulling for the country.
That's the most pathetic, unintelligent and callous attitude one can prosecute.
Mark Twain said that "one should never use exclamation points in writing. It is like laughing at your own joke."
Oh yeah, using just one question mark would probably suffice.
Fat Tony, Springfield
One, never too old to learn....................guilty...with explanation!..............HAPPY-THANKS-GIVING.
One problem I have with this article. The table at the end of it is titled "Presidents' Electoral Votes by Average" or something like that.
Willard Romney's name is on that list and he's not a President. Just thought I'd point that out.
@dangerous
So true! It should read "Presidential candidates..." or something like that. That's the only thing all of the guys have in common!
It would be interesting to see a list of correlations/graphs on the vote, a quick look at the map of the country on this Politics page with the percent of votes in each state by putting your mouse arrow on each state makes me think the lowest percents for Obama were the states with least non-whites in it. Also the states with the highest losing Obama vote percents like NC and GA look to be ones with what I have seen the best/highest concentration of university/research centers (you know, signs of civilization) in the red states.
This story is so....oh I don't know...TWO WEEKS AGO!
I know opinionated but the loser of the election had broken sooo many rules of a good honest campaigning that the winners cant help themselves.
If you look at the county map, red dominates in all rural areas throughout the entire country. The big city folk need their handouts to survive. I wonder what the blue folks would eat if the red folks quit selling food to them? Is this story a bit old news, MSNBC? We know Romney lost!!!! Your guy Obama won!!!! We all lose!!!!
I disagree, the best man won, and I am so happy that we dodged the bullet with the loser Romney
What is your criteria for "best man?"
well X for starters a person that does not write off 47% of the population, 2 ) someone who has solutions and relies on them instead of fearmongering, 3) somone who does not change his principals in mid election. just to name a few.
Congrats MSNBC, your beloved PEW center has determined that you are in fact the most hate-filled, biased, and pathetic "news" site on the web:
Study: Fox News, MSNBC more 'extreme' in final week of campaign
"Fox News was much more positive about (Mitt) Romney than the press as a whole and substantially more negative about (President Barack) Obama. MSNBC was even more overwhelmingly negative about Romney and offered mostly positive coverage about Obama.
The study indicates Fox News' negative coverage of Obama grew from 47% in the first four weeks of October to 56% in the final week, while positive coverage of Romney grew eight points, from 34% to 42%, in the final week.
Meanwhile on MSNBC, positive coverage of Obama grew from 33% during the first four weeks of October to 51% in the last week. MSNBC's negative coverage of Romney increased 11 points in the last week, from 57% to 68%."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/20/study-fox-news-msnbc-more-extreme-in-final-week-of-campaign/?hpt=hp_bn3
What do you expect from a group that would edit a 911 call to make it appear racially divisive?
Enjoy it liberals, you deserve it.
The msm has fought hard for Obama. I hope they get everything they deserve.
so do I X: responsive government,ideas for going forward we do deserve that and we will get it.
From the self professing party of tolerance and coexist.. the party that calls Conservatives "haters." I now turn your attention to the hero of the left, The one! The only!!! FeistyRedHead....
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
"The President wins with over 100 electoral votes, wins decisively in 8 out of 9 "swing" states, carries a majority of the popular votes and the RWNJ's still refuse to concede he has a MANDATE!
Is it any wonder they don't believe in math & science? lol
Lazy & ignorant is no way to go through life..."
I'm agonna have to check it out and get back to ya! ☺
YAY!
One more bat @!$%# crazy tea bagger sent back to the "cave"!
Seeking,
You too darling!
My house is sparkling, the fridge & bar are well stocked, now it's only a matter of time before the festivities commence!
Thank you Feisty! Your words have no doubt turned the hearts of good people into blithering hate mongers like yourself!!! Happy Thanksgiving!!
X the only thing I have to say about your comment is : you get what you give, neocons started this hate fest and fiesty was finishing it. I would wish a happy thanksgiving but you seem like a miserable old cuss so it is hard for me to see you happy about anything
I am surprised he scored so high
Bill Clinton Compared With Barack Obama:
what IS IS & what ISlam IS !
More-on
Romney rank # 22....???....no wonder, he was seen in California pumping his own gas lately.......no Secret Secret in sight, no advisors and no words whether he used regular or premium gas!
....................................talking about Lone Ranger without Tonto!!!.....................................
Here's the problem. Romney shouldn't be on this list. HE WASN'T ELECTED PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP TALKING AS IF ITS THE LOST PRESIDENCY - IT NEVER WAS, AND IT NEVER WILL BE. NBC, ENOUGH, YOU HAVE BEEN GOING ON AND ON ABOUT THIS SINCE NOVEMBER 6TH. GIVE IT UP!!!!!
Has obama created any jobs yet since the election...I didn't think he had but, I thought I might have missed it.....
yeah Jerry he has created about 40,000 new jobs since election day. it seems fair if want to blame him for things completely out of his control you should credit him with those things when it goes on the positive side.
Free obama phones, free fool-stamps, free food for the kids, section 8 housing, amnesty for illegals, relaxation of the work requirements for welfare.....
For the first time, the producers and the productive in this country are out-numbered by the moochers and free-loaders.
However, the problem with socialism is that, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.
Has obama proposed any cuts to any programs yet to avoid the fiscal cliff? Anyone, anyone,,,,He created the mess but now sits back and talks about what everyone else must do to fix it. loser...sorry gutless leader...
don't forget your super massive republican military welfare state... your giant farm subsidies... your endless handouts to Israel... your greedy republican hands held out for pork... your millions of GOP'ers collecting social security, medicare, medicaid, military benefits, public employee benefits, cheap use of public lands, etc, etc, etc
the biggest myth on planet earth is that republicans are fiscally responsible and like small government... the truth points to quite the opposite
Tax cuts with no offsets, deregulation, "free" wars. no inheritance tax, the filthy rich paying less than 15% in federal taxes. Prescription drug benefit, unwanted and unneeded military spending. The Rebubs offered trillions in free stuff- on top of the trillions they gave away between 2000 and 2009. Do you recall your "free" Bush checks? How about your free emergency room medical program?
Look guys, I'm trying to help you. You guys embarrassed yourselves (on top of the dead and wounded troops) with your carpetbagger Gov W. The national debt could have been put to bed, but you tossed in 2 lost wars just so W could be a war president. Everything you tea bums want is something for nuttin. Then you top off W with Palin. Oh, but you have to double down on that- Bachman, Cain, Santorum, Newt, Romney- but if that doesn't top all, you toss in Ryan who can't even win his own state. Now you are upset because Fox lied to you again so now you want to hate America and leave- which suits me just fine- but it aint gonna happen.
You tea idiots need to get a clue. You can start with learning about evolution, history and even the constitution. But free stuff- if it wasn't for white trash welfare would not be needed. You guys loose jobs to illegals that your leaders bring in for cheap labor and you are too stupid to see I, much less compete with them for a job. Then they get you all worked up about your taxes that very few Repubs even pay. You got your ars handed to you because you are a fool, the free stuff aint the problem. Some of us fiscal conservatives got tired of your lost wars and your piss poor fiscal record.. Get a clue-
The USA is in Economic Recession. Even the Europe is in Economic Recession. But still Indians from India are going in Huge Numbers to the USA and Europe and the Indians are even Getting Jobs in Recession Hit USA and Europe. Why? When the Unemployment rate is high in the USA and Europe and the Americans and Europeans are not getting Jobs in their Own Countries How Come Indians from India are getting Jobs in these countries in Huge Numbers? This is due to telling of Lies and Playing Politics by the Indians. In addition to signing Trade Agreements the Indians Insist on Signing even Services Agreements whereby Indians will get to go to these countries with the Ultimate Aim of Settling down in these foreign countries. And the Indians are signing these Services Agreement with all the Countries of the World in the form of Bilateral treaties. But it is the majority community of India that are going in foreign countries. The Indian Plans are to make Indian Human Lobbies in every Foreign Countries. Such Lies and Politics are being played by the Indians which includes the majority community alongwith the other minority communities. In India according to the caste system the Majority of the Majority community alongwith some minority communities are also Low and not that High which is what they are claiming in foreign countries. Each Community is lying for the other both in India and in the Foreign Countries. ie. Indians from India are United in the foreign countries. ie. All the communities are Complementing the other in Lying for each other. For eg: The Goan Christians will lie for the Goan Hindus and Vice-versa. Then the Goan christians will lie for the Gujaratis Hindus and vice-versa. Then the Goan Christians will lie for the Maharashtrian Hindus and Vice versa. Then the Goan Christians will lie for the Tamilians Hindus and Vice-versa. Then the Goan Christians will lie for the Bengali Hindus and Vice-versa. Then the Tamilian Hindus will lie for the Gujaratis hindus and vice-versa. Then the Bengalis hindus will lie for the Oriya Hindus and vice-versa. Then the tamilian hindus will lie for the Telegu hindus and vice-versa. Then the Kannada Hindus will lie for the tamilian hindus and vice-versa. Then the Kannada hindus will lie for the Gujaratis hindus and vice-versa. In this way each community lies for the other and vice-versa and they ALL Complement each other. There is the NEW GAME of the Indians. The Indians from India want to Make Themselves High In STATUS, CLASS, STATURE Just Like the Americans and Europeans. And for this Indians are Changing their Surnames and Names to Make Themselves High so that When they Go to Other Countries of the World they can Tell Lies that They are High. Actually the Majority of the Indians are Low and to Make themselves High in Foreign Countries the Indians will tell a lot of lies. Also for this the Indians from India will tell a lot of lies and Play Politics in the USA and European countries to GET ALL THE HIGH JOBS AND TOP POSITIONS IN THE USA AND EUROPEAN COMPANIES AND MULTINATIONALS AND THE USA AND EUROPEAN GOVERNMENT COMPANIES So as to Make themselves High in Status, Stature and Class just like the Americans and the Europeans. And the Indians from India are also contemplating Marrying Americans and Europeans and thus making themselves High in the Eyes of the Europeans and Americans. And the Indians are going in Huge Numbers to the USA and Europe to tell more lies and make themselves High in the EYES OF THE AMERICANS and EUROPEANS. Check out the Facts. The EXCUSE The Clever Indians give to GO Across the World in Huge Numbers and are Still Going is the huge population. for eg. why is the population of India not contolled and increasing at a faster pace. Thus create mini indian villages and Indian Human Lobbies in Foreign Countries ALL OVER THE WORLD ESPECIALLY IN THE USA AND EUROPE. Also Many companies from India were taking over large companines over the world like Arcelor,Jaguar & land Rover, Corus,Teltly, Novelis, Algoma,telecom companies in Africa, Betapharm, RE Power, Hancock assets and so forth and Many Many other medium and small sized companies BUT INDIAN COMPANIES ARE NOT SETTING UP GREENFIELD COMPANIES AND CREATING JOBS IN THE USA AND EUROPE BUT ARE TAKING OVER EXISTING COMPANIES. The Politics played by the Indians and some Government Officials in the TAKEOVER Of ARCELOR of EUROPE is WELL KNOWN. eg. Leceistersire in England will be the largest Indian City outside India in a Few years. Similarly New Jersey in the USA will be the largest Indian state outside India where there are a large concentration of Indians. Also Durban in South Africa has a large Concentration of Indians and will be the city to watch out next. Indians are also eating of the foreign companies. eg. Russian company Sistema's loss, Norwegian company Telenor's loss, now a would be tax on Vodafone, Huge loss to Fiat Motors in India, and now a would be loss to Ford and General Motors in India if they dont export their products because Indians are not buying Ford, General Motors and Fiat Products. This are just the Huge Losses caused. Besides the Losses caused to Venture Capital funds and the losses in the Stock Markets for the FII's, etc. INDIANS FROM INDIA ARE ALSO TAKING And EATING THE JOBS, HOUSES, HIGHER EDUCATION, BUSINESS, etc. OF THE PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICS IN THE USA AND EUROPE BY GOING TO USA AND EUROPE IN HUGE NUMBERS INSPITE OF RECESSION BEING THERE AND MORE AND MORE JOBS ARE BEING OUTSOURCED TO INDIA. for eg: Indians have a MONOPOLY of Ownership of MOTELS in the USA. Now the Indians are Eyeing to Make a MONOPOLY on Shops, Grocery Stores, Mom & Pop stores and other Shops in the USA and for this the Indians from India will buyout all the Shops, Grocery Stores and Mom & Pop stores and other Shops and thus the MONOPOLY of Ownership of these Shops will be in the Hands of Indians from India. There are many many more such cases and the list goes on and on. Now the Lying game is going on More and More. Everyone is lying once again and commenting lies. Indians are lying to the Protestants about the Catholics and taking everything in the USA and Europe and then Indians are lying to the Catholics about the the Protestants and taking everything in Europe and the USA. The Chinese and the Japanese and the Koreans are in numbers in the USA but they only work in the USA and do not take Powers or Top positions BUT, the Indians from India are going in Huge Numbers in the USA and EUROPE and are also taking Political Powers and top Positions and Once the Indians from India get Power and Top Positions THEY Make Decisions in Favour of Indians and India. The Indian Games and Plans for the World are to Make Indian Human Lobbies all over the World especially in the USA and EUROPE. In Europe the Europeans must have the Power and Top Positions and that includes the Protestants and the Catholics. Similarly in the USA the Americans must have the Power and Top positions and that includes the Protestant and Catholics Americans, the Black Americans, the White Americans and the Hispanic Americans. One more New Game about the Indians from India: Indians from India claim that they have the highest startups among technology companies in the USA. But actually most of this is services and managed services companies. And for more than 75% of the startups by Indians from India This is just a ploy to create a company in the USA and employ more not so very highly skilled Indians from India using the H1B visa and other forms of visa route. Actually the Indian startup companies take Business from the American companies only otherwise this same business would have gone to American Companies which employ Americans. This is the trick of the Indians so that more and more Indians can go to the USA and settle down in the USA. And after making such startups technology companies by Indians from India How many have actually Folded down after taking in Indians from India on H1B and other types of visas. Even India is the highest exporter of all kinds of Artificial Drugs to the USA and Europe since India is the largest producer of artificial drugs. India is also a Transit and export point for all natural drugs from the Golden Triangle and Golden Cresent countries. The Indians from India have another age old game. If the Indians from India want to take revenge from the fathers they will spoil their Sons and Daughters. Indians have mastered this game and try on everybody wherever they go. In India all of the Hindus and other Indians from different communities take turns to spoil the children of the Catholics especially the East Indian Catholics and the Anglo Indians and the Protestants and then try to push the blame on each other among the Catholics, Protestants and the Anglo Indians and then the Hindus wash their Hands of it. This practise of spoiling others children is practised by the Hindus in India and also all over the world wherever the Indians from India go. ie.The Indian from India will make the others children do bad things and spoil their minds psychologically and make one against the other and then the Indians from India will take benefits. In India also there is no proper religious freedom. Catholics, Protestants are equally harassed. for the eg. the Riots in Kandhamal in Orissa state against Christians, the harassing of Christians in Dangs in Gujarat and other parts all over India. Recently the Tamilian Hindus showed their colours against the Christians. The Tamilian Hindus played a double game. On one side they harassed and attacked the Sri Lankan Christian pilgrims who had come on a pilgrimage to Vailankanni Shrine and on the other hand they packed them into buses and sent them back to Sri Lanka thus not giving them a chance to pray. This is a trick of the Tamilian Hindus and other Hindus to go to foreign countries by Harrassing the Catholics, Protestants,etc in India. Now each of the Hindus communities are trying to wash their hand off in India and the Foreign countries by pushing the Blame on the Protestants, Catholics and the Orthodox Christians and making them fight each other. Please Verify the Facts. DON'T GIVE THE INDIANS FROM INDIA ANYTHING. THE INDIANS FROM INDIA ARE GREAT CUNNING LIARS. Please verify the Facts. GOD Bless the Americans and the Europeans. GOD BLESS THE USA AND EUROPE.
Kevin Valentine Moraes
Mira Road (Thane)
if American students had been diligent in their studies, we would have many more American born engineers... but they weren't... and the rest is history, unfortunately
one of the best Thanksgiving Days ever... for the US... for the world!
When did Gore become a President?
Presidential candidates maybe? I see the listing underneath Presdents also include Kerry and Dole. The current state of journalism has fallen so far as to list runnerups as Presidents. Is NBC giving out a box of a Crayolas to anyone that can write an article these days, factual or not?
Despite two corrections... it still lists these candidates as Presidents... ROFLMAO!
Sign the petition to tell boehner and the republi-tards to Stop playing politics and pass the middle class tax cuts!!
Sign the petition here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/taxes/tax-cuts