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UPDATED Noon ET: Paul Ryan’s claimed that the “urban areas” were a principal reason for President Obama’s win. And while turnout increased in many population centers in swing states Obama won, they don't fully explain Obama's sweeping win.
“The surprise was some of the turnout, some of the turnout especially in urban areas, which gave President Obama the big margin to win this race,” Ryan claimed last week. “When we watched Virginia and Ohio coming in, and those ones coming in as tight as they were, and looking like we were going to lose them, that’s when it became clear we weren't going to win.”
With provisional ballots counted in the last few days, the president did increase his vote total in many "urban areas" in swing states he won. On Election Night, as votes were coming in, it wasn't the case that the president was running up the score.
The president's margins weren't atypical for Democrats. They run up margins in population centers, and President Obama is no different. And certainly Obama's margins in Cuyahoga County, where Cleveland is, and Northern Virginia, put the president over the edge. But they weren't unusual or particularly high.
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So far, in Ohio and Pennsylvania, in fact, his vote totals are off from 2008, though ballots are still being counted and election results will change as more votes are counted. In 2008, more than nine million votes were counted after Election Day.
The one place where Obama did increase his totals significantly in population centers was Florida. There, he gained 56,000 more votes than 2008 in three counties – Miami-Dade, Hillsborough (Tampa), and Orange (Orlando). That’s 76% of his winning margin in the state.
In other swing states Obama won -- like Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nevada -- Obama increased his vote totals, but not enough to significantly impact the overall vote margins in those states.
The “urban areas" vote
FLORIDA: +56,000 (Obama’s FL margin was +74,000)
Miami-Dade: +42,000
Hillsborough (Tampa): +13,500
Orange (Orlando): +700
VIRGINIA: +12,000 (Obama’s VA margin +149,000)
NoVA (Alexandria +3,000, Arlington +2,000, Fairfax +5,000, Fairfax City +100, Falls Church +400): +9,500
Richmond: +2,000
WISCONSIN: +11,000 (Obama’s WI margin was 205,000)
Milwaukee: +800
Dane (Madison): +10,000
IOWA: +7,500 (Obama’s IA margin was 92,000)
Polk (Des Moines): +7,500
COLORADO: +6,000 (Obama’s CO margin +123,000)
Denver: +5,000
Boulder: +1,000
NEVADA: +5,000 (Obama’s NV margin was 68,000)
Clark (Las Vegas): +9,000
Washoe (Reno): -4,000
OHIO: -60,000 (Obama’s OH margin +106,000)
Cuyahoga (Cleveland): -37,000
Franklin (Columbus): -9,000
Lucas (Toledo): -14,000
PENNSYLVANIA: -61,000 (Obama’s PA margin +284,000)
Philadelphia: -37,000
Allegheny (Pittsburgh): -24,000
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I'm sure Ryan's plot to gut Medicare and Social Security had nothing to do with why his teabagger party lost in a landslide, nor did his bigotry or his obsession with controlling lady parts.
Seriously, who other than a straight white Christian male would vote for the party of bigoted and misogynistic Christofascists?
Nobody lost in a landslide. Im not sure why you keep saying that. Im sure it makes you "feel" better, but it's simply not true.
The real question you should be asking yourself is how nearly 50% of Americans disagreed with Obama and when Obama doesnt change a thing (which he wont) in the next four years...who will they vote for?
I can guarantee you one thing though. If it's a minority or female candidate, I bet they get the vote no matter what their political motives are.
Obama won by 2.7% - that's better than GWB vs. Gore or Kerry.
Besides it's the Electoral College that matters and Romney got stomped.
One of the first things the pugbags need to do is realize, really, really realize they lost this election. Some are still in denial. Another thing: Finally understand exactly why you lost the election. It was because of the message that came out when the clown road show first started on the road to become the GOP standard bearer.
That message became the "war on women", and your fellow pugbags in VA passing that vaginal probe law just proved what the D's were saying. And you pugbags were too stupid to realize that. Another point/reason you lost is that you T ed almost every voting minority off. And one of the last reasons, the bible thumping pugbags don't think Mormon is a real religion. They have said it's a cult. That also helped keep pugbags at home.
Now, examine those few things. You need to get with the 21st Century, women reproduction rights, abortion should not even be mentioned, nor any laws passed one way or another. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. But you won't, and people realize it. Therefore, it will be a long time before the Independent women vote for a pugbag.
Find some decent candidates that can reach out and connect with the average American. Mitt and Ryan could not do that, nor will Jeb Bush be able to do that either. And quite trotting out a token black person, that also doesn't set well with the average black person. But on that, you have proven you don't care, so therefore, be a long time to win their votes.
The list can go on, such as Social Security, Medicare, unions, etc etc. Like I said, if you want to win, change your platform competely. The rich only have one vote per person, the masses outnumber the rich by at least 100 to one. Simple math, if you can figure it out.
So, your vote was about women...correct? What exactly do women NOT get that men do? Please explain in detail the rights you are denied that men have.
I can list ALL kinds of programs that men are denied for everyday. Im sure you dont want to hear that though.
I bet you are the kind of woman who spends an entire date telling and demonstrating to a man how independent you are, how liberated women have become and about your big paying job...then expect him to pick up the tab because you want to be "treated like lady". Oh the hypocrisy!!!
Free condoms
Equal pay for equal work.
@Rob. Part, a small part of my vote was against dirty old white men who think they can control my reproduction rights. If the shoes were reversed, and every man had to have a vasectomy by age eleven, you would scream to high heaven. It's no different than that, except it pertains to women.
I am very independent, and the men in my circle of friends know it, and have no problem with it. You Rob, come across like an insecure little man, with small junk. Therefore you brag a lot, think you know everything. It's easy to read you from what you post.
It is nice when I'm treated like a lady, but what is one hell of a lot nicer is when I'm treated like an equal. Something you wouldn't understand Rob. You also come across as a control freak. Hurry and get your crainal/rectal surgery.
I still find it incredibly telling that Mitt Romney--all hail the business guy who can turn our country around--was beat by a marketing plan! Romney's relatively narrow business experience and marketing directives were never concerned with the 47% of the country that would not be investing in his easy money schemes. His target market has always been the rich. No surprises here. What's clear is that Romney's business experience running investment company's made a lot of money for very few people. That kind of business practice just doesn't translate to running a country and he clearly doesn't understand the demographics.
Obviously oblivious to the fact that the majority of people in this country are women, young, minorities and the poor, Republicans spent a couple of years pissing on all of them whenever they got a chance.
Now they're wondering how they possibly could have lost the election.
Was Eisenhower really the last Republican who actually had a brain?
weeks later and they are still making excuses - most people just did not like the extremist message or the changes in messages by Romney or the restrictionist party has a lot of work to do; the first being to get in touch with reality.
When the additional layoffs come in 2013 when the hidden Obamacare taxes kick in, all Obama voters should be the first ones to be laid off.
You're so proud of him, give up what you have for others, that is the Obama way isn't it? To redistribute?
You asked for him, you should suffer the consequences first. You will all suffer buyer's remorse shortly, it is only going to get worse.
Doom and Gloom Doom and Gloom How long have conservatives been preaching this message about 2000 years for Western Civilization and for about 200 years for this country?
Remember this in politics the fruits of victory always contains the the seeds of defeat. If you get too arrogant you plant those seeds. This is true for both the Democrats as well as the Republicans.
Both parties are robust organizations. They are not going anywhere. They both have strengths and weaknesses. The Democrats control the Presidency & the Senate. The Republicans control the House, a majority of governorships, and the Supreme Court. The Democrats have a slight edge but nothing overwhelming. The Democrats should not get cocky.
Neither should the Republicans. The electoral college is looking bad for them. Note that Obama had three paths to victory with relation to the swing states. He nailed them all. Also the Democrats seem more organized. There was a joke by Will Rogers "I do not belong to any organized political party, I am a Democrat." This really isn't true any more. Democraphics seem to favor Democrats. The Republicans are going to have to work hard to keep the Democrats slight edge from widening.
My advice to both parties, move to the moderate middle. If there is any mandate it is to pursue a moderate path. Get things done and be prepared to compromise. Republicans should curb their right wing and the Deomcrats should curb their left wing. Neither party should expect to gain a dominant advantage so get used to it.
John,
Thank you for a civil and rational discussion. I find it saddening that this nation, one built on tolerance and civility has devolved into such a divided nation with people "hating" and "calling names".
One does not have to look hard at the map of the electorate to see that we have a major ideological divide in this nation.
In the rural areas of this great nation, people tend to believe in self-reliance, liberty, small government that gives them the freedom to live their lives, make their own decisions and keep more of their hard earned money to take care of their families and neighbors.
In the urban and suburban (note the author did not include nearby counties) areas, people tend to believe in government provides me with what I need, I don't have to work to get it and if I do, I lose benefits.
Unfortunately, that attitude leads to a message being sent to the government to grow, exert more and more influence over the people and take more of what belongs to the people, including money and freedoms.
Why just look at New York City where you now cannot buy a soda larger than 16 ounces. What is next? You can't by orange juice (high in natural sugars) or corn (that is where "nasty" high fructose corn syrup comes from)?
Now Obamacare is going to bankrupt this country and take your health care choices away from you.
What it comes down to is do you want the nation our founding fathers built or do you want to default to government (example: British rule or Venezuela) that is oppressive, controls your life of what you can or can't do and does it under the guise of "we are here to help you".
Read the Declaration of Independence....this administration is making the King of England look like a patsy.
And sadly, those who voted for a larger, more oppressive government voted for the very thing that led to the Revolutionary War and this great nation..
I fear for the nation my sons and their children will live in............
Think about it........
Shepherd- The problem is that people aren't thinking about it. It seems we are heading toward a nation where everyone expects the government to provide for ALL of their needs. This mindset is going to lead us down a slippery slope and unfortunately people don't seem to care.
Forcing a woman to have the baby of her rapist is not small government
Where would civilization be if conservatives had their way? Still eating uncooked meat because they were distrustful of fire.
prog.1....Really?....Really?
Where do you come up with this?
This nation was built on conservative principles that made us the strongest nation in the world. Culture, business and militarily.
If you have noticed, it is liberal principles that have decreased our status in the world. In fact, it is liberal principles that have created the multitude of issues globally. Financially and peace wise.
I am amazed at the sheer audacity of the statements liberals make by pulling *h*t out the air and selling it as "truth"...
The sad part is, the uninformed believe it..............
So GWB starting 2 wars on deficit spending (one of which was illegitimate), creating the Med-D donut hole on deficit spending, Giving away the budget surplus to the rich in tax cuts and running the economy into the ground were totally irrelevant and it's all Obama's fault right? lol
Shepherd - You really think Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, etc. were conservatives?
Republicans(GOP) keeps looking at numbers and excuses. It's not about numbers, it's about the people that those numbers represent. Listen to the people, not Koch, Rove, oan other Righty's . Dont try to controle the vote,don't try to confuse the issues, stop lying and then recanting, Find someone that is trustworthy and has some moral fiber. Lying isn't moral,flipping and floping doesn't work. Truth and FREEDOM and compassion and FORWARD looking plans is the KEY!!! ITS OVER (election) Stop blocking and HELP the US back to greatness. FREEDOM!!!!!!! PS, Bengazi is political history, Get onboard and let's fix this Nation. Fix SOMETHING!!!!! CONGRESS!!!!
J. Brown...Why the hypocrisy?
You should also apply your criteria to all political parties and to your life.....
As I watched the election and did my own research (not buying what any news organization put out, whether I agreed with them or not) I found that Romney/Ryan did not lie. Were their statements "tweaked" to benefit their message? Yes.
But so were the Democrats.
I will point out that this administration does flat out lie. Benghazi you mention is one recent example. By lying to the American people and UN, your measure of trust should have been shattered. Why doesn't your criteria apply here?
"Obamacare will not raise your healthcare costs nor taxes". Now it is know that it does, dramatically.
Romney/Ryan will take away your Medicare. False. Their plan ensursed future coverage, not bankruptcy.
"This will be the most transparent administration"...investigations are underway on "alternate email" accounts (Illegal under the law) where Obama administration leaders have been conducting business without following the law.
You talk about "freedom"...How about the over 7000 regulations this administration has lumped on business over the last 3 months and will over the next two???
How about the Obama administration forcing healthcare on the nation and controlling how you get healthcare? That is not freedom.
How about forcing you to buy CFC bulbs that are more dangerous than incandescent? That is not freedom.
How about forcing someone else to pay for someone's birth control? That is not freedom.
Please start applying your "decision" criteria to your own party....Your freedoms depend on it.......
@Shepherd-1033298:
What a pathetic joke your response is! Every example you stated was a crafty lie by you. All of them were just assertions tweaked to fit your warped perception of truth without "facts". Were you in the Benghazi briefings? No one lied about Benghazi you idiot. So the government didn't tell us the whole truth. SO what! That's not lying. You have no idea what intelligence issues they were assessing. Who or what could get compromised. Who or what was involved. You don't have a freaking clue about the facts on anything you asserted. Nor does that fifth from last in his Annapolis graduating class idiot Senator from Arizona, John McCain. A senile old man who doesn't know anything today except his hatred of the man who bested him in 2008. A demented old fool, who is shameleesly and unfairly attacking a brilliant woman with the same Benghazi Bullshyt you're sliming this thread with.
Pardon us if we are underwhelmed by your litany of Fox talking points masquerading as facts. Nothing but your blind ignorant hatred of president Obama lay exposed in your stupid comment. You are also deaf and dumb and can't read if you can't distinguish the truth from the blizzard of lies Romney/Ryan subjected the country too. Their lying silence is "BLiss" to the ears of 51% of the electorate in this country. And I won't bother to cite a single one for you. Because it doesn't really matter to people like you. Read Fact Check for yourself if you can. I'm certain you won't comprehend the truth. Especially based on the dumbass comments you made. You dude are the hypocrite! One in total denial that you and your lying ticket got their heads tossed to them by a truth demanding electorate on 11/6!
Get used to it. It's going to keep happening until you and your serial lying, incompetent Party miraculously find your way back to the truth on just about everything.
@J. Brown-933524
Great Post!
Shepard
This is a prime example of your complete BS. I wonder if you even bothered to read it or if you just did a mindless cut and paste:
How about providing a list of those regulations. How about a link? Just more BS from the tea side of the room. When in doubt double down on lies and crazy right Shep?
I am so sick and tired of this ignorant and racist Republican party, with its endless droning of racist codes, buzzwords and hateful dog whistles. "Urban" as a code for black or Hispanic; "Traditional Americans" as a dog whistle for white racists; It just goes on and on. You crack their evil hate fusilades and they just replace them with new ones. They have that fat racist Pig, Frank Luntz working 24/7 churning out this evil brew. And they have Fox with hard right Nazi, Hate Radio, pumping it out over the airwaves. The GOP has totally become the Party dedicated to National Hatred in America. Abraham Lincoln wouldn't recognize it today. Nor could he be welcome or nominated in it. No Chance!
Correction: Honest Abe would recognize it. It is the same Confederate Party in spirit & force he defeated in the 1800s. Same kind of people too. Same kind of ideology. Same philosophy of government. Same false sense of religion, humanity and patriotism. Same sense of racial & cultural supremacy & purity. Same sense of ethnic entitlement & privilege. Same sense of rebellion. Same disrespect of the American flag and Constitutional rights of all Americans. Same symmetry with the Confederate Flag. Same ultimate destiny and fate as its Confederate predecessor awaiting it.
The GOP would do America a great service by just going the way of the DoDo Bird. There is no mystery to it whatsoever. It is exactly what it looks like; sounds like; and is.
I really don't understand the need for the GOP to find the REAL reason they lost.
They put up a lying flip-flopper with no specifics who insulted 47% of the electorate on video.
Can you say "Duuuhhhhh???"
Shepard you make valid points and factual points so don't expect a genuine response from any libbers because if you say anything that makes sense or is against what they believe you are nothing but a white, Christian, bigoted and racist male and you probably own a company and you're rich. For so long the dems have been pedaling BS to these people who believe everything they say. The dems just jump on the downtrodden and the minorities and tell them a bunch of lies to get the vote and then when they don't do anything for them they lie and say it is the rebubs fault. Every time a valid point or observations is brought up these poster won't discuss it because they know they are wrong they will just start name calling. I especially like Rob's post to Sally Anne. What is it that woman don't have that the so called "white, Christian, straight, man has???? And any minority please tell us how you are so badly treated and discriminated against and what things possibly you can't have that this white male has and then tell me how your big time dem liberal party has done anything to change. Now I don't want the lies that you were stupid enough to believe when they were trying to get re-elected. I want one bone-fide thing that this admin has given you that you didn't have before and which was why you were so badly discriminated against. The dems have made you sheeple so blind to the truth you don't even know the truth anymore. You have been told that all repubs are rich and that they should share their hard earned money with you. I can't believe how foolish and gullable some people can actually be.
How about the racial profiling law in Arizona that Romney wanted to take nationally?
Or the Republican Party platform that forces a woman to bear the child of her rapist?
Did you notice the racists at Ole Miss protesting Obama's re-election?
What do think about the republicans in Texas who's redistricting plans that were found to be discriminatory?
Voter suppression in Pennsylvania and Ohio, the list goes on and on
We the people can see the bigotry, even if you can't
@bobm-346250 who said:
" You have been told that all repubs are rich and that they should share their hard earned money with you. I can't believe how foolish and gullable some people can actually be."
Do you actually believe the unbelievable bullshyt you're saying on this thread? Because it's very obvious yoiu are not "rich or cultured". And they sure recognize you. Look it dude: Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican. His father & family too. Just like over 70% of African Americans until the 1960's. So there goes your freaking ignorant theory out of the window. Don't you think the better explanation is Minorities fled the Republican Party, and resist it like a parasite, because it was taken over by all of the racist, southern Confederate Democrats and their Northern Union, Archie Bunker sympathizers. Both groups swamped the GOP in revolt over Civil Rights progress?
http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy
I know that is asking you to stretch your understanding just a tad. But the truth often bites this way. Rich has nothing to do with it. They want to be rich too. They just can't stand the guts of people like you.
Phil racial profiling in AZ was a term the dems brought up to make it look like a plot from the repubs. I lived in AZ and I don't know of too many residents that are against protecting their state and their border from illegal immigration. And why is it racial profiling? If the illegals in the area causing the problem are coming from Mexico who do you think they should check the Chinese or the African Americans? Obama wants to make AZ look bad for doing what the federal government is supposed to be doing. And how do you know those protesting are all repubs??? Don't you think that there are many dems who didn't want obama to win???? Why does it have to be repubs? And if obama would have lost and the blacks in Chicago started wrecking stuff and protesting would that have been racist????? And Johnny B you're right I am not rich but you have no idea if I am cultured or not and you don't even know from what culture I come. And what possibly does Martin Luther King being a repub have to do with anything I said? And what possible theory did I state where I said rebubs can't be black. I merely stated on these posting if I disagree with something you liberals say I am automatically tagged as a racist and a bigot because that is what the dems are spreading to their followers now. That anyone who disagrees or is a repub is racist and a bigot. Go back and read the posts. The thing I do see from your post is you have a very closed mind and as I said you are quick to call names and make accusations. You think people hate my guts and you have no idea who I am. That is hatred and that is what the dems spread to try and keep separate the races and the classes in the United States for their own selfish reasons of getting re-elected. And by the way neither of you told me how your beloved party has done ANYTHING to change things other than make a bunch of promises they know they can't keep.
It's racial profiling because citizens are being detained by government officials based on their appearance. You don't see a problem with that?
@bobm-346250:
Everything I said is relevant to your comments in tone, spirit or substance. Yes I do call names. I do it because you people from the right have engaged in it so much that it is unavoidable. You religiously call my President names on a 24/7 basis in your right wing hate media or on these blogs. Calling my President a name is like calling me a name in my book. He is too much a gentleman to respond. I am not. I will defend him. I will b.i.t.c.h slap you or anyone else if you throw weak thinly disguised hate lies at him (and me indirectly). Because I voted for him twice. And I am proud of it and him!
That old racist sheriff in Arizona had no issues with Romney's border or American credentials did he? Even though Mitt's grandfather and father illegally crossed those borders. And both ran for President. Old Arapio didn't have issues with Romney's non traditional family structure & religious heritage did he? Yet that ignorant dipshyt questions my President's birth rights. IMO he is just an offensive goon hiding behind a badge. And certainly not a credible source on anything regarding law & order.
Yes Phil I do if it was merely a witch hunt but it is trying to crack down on illegal immigration which the federal government should be doing. What would happen in your neighborhood if someone let's say a little child was abducted and the communication that went out was that a white man, 6 foot tall and wearing a green jacket was the suspect. If the policestopped everyone fitting that description would you think that is profiling? If a crime is being committed and you have an idea of who is committing that crime why is it profiling to question someone fitting the description of those suspected of committing the crime? It is unfortunate but most of the illegal immigration in AZ comes about because of Hispanics. That is who will be checked. Just saw your post Johnny and the things that bugs me is why am I one of those from the right. Because I have ideas that may lean towards that side doesn't make me one of THOSE from the right. I don't know what the sheriff in AZ thought about anything romney because I don't really think he spoke about it. And romney's didn't come here illegally and I really don't care because if you would read my earlier posts I was not a fan of romney running either but I am also not a fan of nothing being done in DC. My answer was to vote all incumbents and keep doing it until the arrogant bastards learned they work for us not themselves.
Bob, you are talking about a specific crime with a description of a single individual. The AZ law targets an entire race for a unspecified event. They are being stopped because of their race and you can't spin it any other way than racial profiling.
You said the Democrats are peddling BS, I doubt you would feel that way if your skin color was the one being targeted
We will never agree on this point because we perceive it differently. To me this is one crime being committed by an entire country. If they are coming from Mexico illegally than they are criminals. But as I said we will never agree so onward. And what do you mean if my skin color was the one being targeted? My skin color is targeted every time I walk down a dark street in just about any large city. Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, St. Louis and yes even Phoenix--you name it and are they targeting me specifically???? No they are targeting my race and you can't spin that any other way either. That is pure racial hatred except because it is not from a white guy it is just another unfortunate event because the libs say the inner city people are so discriminated against.
@bobm-346250 who said:
Just saw your post Johnny and the things that bugs me is why am I one of those from the right. Because I have ideas that may lean towards that side doesn't make me one of THOSE from the right.
Fair enough. But most of your comments in this thread say the opposite. They invite confrontation. And when you start quoting lunatic "birther lyers" like Arapio & Trump, as some kind of credible indictment of President Obama's legitimacy, it really sets me off. bobm; words have consequences. And the hateful/hurtful words being hurled in the Republican Party against President Obama, immigrnats (legal or otherwise), minorities and women are having tremendous negative consequences against the GOP that will only continue to grow. Unless it is confronted forcefully by reasonable people in that party (if any are still there). People are not going to vote for those who vilify, insult and hate them. And they will not sit idly by and let those same people erode their rights and marginalize them anymore. That is the simple reality your party and its people need to confront. Or it is a doomed movement.
The simple reality is this. If President Obama and the Democratic Party don't restore a more equitable spread & balance of wealth in this country back into the middle class. People will be doing much worse to rich people in the future than just voting against them. And I reference every single revolution in the history of the world as examples of that statement. Illegal immigration is not even a big problem in the US. Its just a strawman planted in your brain by rich oligarchs to distract you from the truth. Which is; legal immigration is the biggest problem. Especially when taken in the context of those newly minted "Corporate" global citizen/immigrants who have infiltrated us financially, politically, economically, socially and sucked up all of our wealth and jobs. Thank youy outsourcers like Mitt Romney & Ronald Reagan! Reference Walmart/China Inc et al as perfect examples. And they are just dumping tons of money into our electoral proces & stuffing our highest courts to strengthen their hands.
Your problem is not with people who voted for President Obama or the guys with the sombreros at the border. It is the guys with the Boller Hats on Wall Street and Republican politicians who are pimping and whoring you out unmercifuuly behind their Social/Hate Strawmen. Better yet: it is a dumbed down public who prefers whining and complaining about their bigotry against "other non traditional" Americans over their baseline economic survival issues.
Bob you're right, anyone who justifies racial profiling in Arizona with a mugging in Detroit is hopeless
Well, can you prove Romney's came here legally. They fled to Mexico at one time because of old man Romney needed more than one wife. And how do we know Mitt wasn't adopted? He never showed any birth certificate, adoption papers, or many tax returns.
So when you blindly spout out drivel like you did, expect to be called on it.
Analyze all you want but the bottom line remains the same: Rmoney and Ryan simply were not want America wanted. Period.
The Good Ol' Days are over, Casey Jones has struck out. Ol' Yeller is still dead and nothing will change that.
2014 will change it, 2 more years of a downward spiral and you will see more of the conservatives come into play.
I have been voting for over 38 years, it's always a cycle.
As much as you all hate Republicans, they are always the ones that get the country going again. Democrats tax & spend, with no end insight. Democrats that have been around for over 20 years, myself included, know this and that is why I didn't vote Democrat this year for the first time in my life.
My children and grandchildren are being left with a tremendous burden, as are yours. Future generations will be forced to pay that debt.
Yeah the way Bush got us going again?
At least the democrats tell the people what they are paying for with their taxes. The republicans do this insane thing of cutting the taxes and hiding the spending, and believe me they do spend.
BTW deficits do count. The national debt counts. And yes you did build that.
Umm, you mean the democrats did when Bush had Dems control both houses?
Typical Obama supporter, refuses to see the truth or do any research.
Everyone must pay attention to what goes on in the country as it will affect not only ours but future generations to come.
The Republican trick is to NOT TAX but spend, spend, spend, then blame it on Democrats. Let's see, two unfunde4d wars, Medicare Part D, massive tax cuts all unfunded. It all occurred when the Republicans had a majority in both the House and Senate. Yet they still try to blame the Democrats. Yeah, right.
People(?) like Momma Ducks try to lie about this but it doesn't fly.
Hey Ducks, this all happened during the first 2 years of the Bush administration. Try to keep up and maybe read a book. You have a lot to learn.
Cons keep singing the same song and it still isn't true. You would think they would learn. Then they wonder why they can't win important elections. What a surprise that one is.
And how many military actions in multiple countries did Obama start without congressional approval?
How much do you think we spent keeping AF1 flying 24/7 at a cost of $180,000 per hour when Obama's campaign only had to reimburse for a first class ticket?
Yes others did it but not even 1/3 of what he did.
What about AF2 etc? We have to take separate planes to go on vacations? What the Obamas can't stand each other enough to be on the same plane?
The only lies in the entire scenario is coming from Obozo and the democrats.
Keep singing his song, you will lose your voice soon enough.
Dukes
As usual, deflection from the right. That's all you've got, plus, all you can do is lie when you do deflect. I keep forgetting that every single Republican President did the very same thing, but if PRESIDENT Obama does it it's a scandal. Why is that Dukes? I hear the Republican dog whistles blowing again. It's OK if a Republican does it but if this BLACK Democrat President does it, God help us all.
Tell you a secret Dukes. The only voice that's going to be lost is yours and all of your compatriots. We're starting to lose our patience with the likes of you. You're an endangered species because all you do is spread doom, gloom, hatred and fear. We have grown tired of you and your kind.
By the way, Presidential travel arrangements are dictated by the Secret Service. I know it's hard for your small, closed mind to comprehend but try to. Pathetic, just pathetic.
Also Dukes, those military actions cost ZERO American lives. I suppose you would feel better if you had a body count. None of those actions required Congressional approval, but you already know that. It's just a BS tea bag talking point and that's all.
I don't know who you think your fooling. People in your party might believe you but we bothered to get an education and we view people like you with a great deal of distrust, with good reason.
Sooooooo much Obozo BS. Deflection? Obozo is the king of it. His adminstration has owned nothing.
The consititution specifically states that the Prez needs congressional approval unless there is a direct assault on the US. Somalia, Yemen, Libya, sorry none of those are here in the US last time I checked.
But then he circumvented the constitution again when he appointed his Czars to get around congressional approval. Isn't that funny when he had a Dem congress then?
This Democrat is sick of my fellow dems and how they cannot see this man for what he really is, how's that?
Yes, you know so much yet you didn't even know I was a Dem myself? And I will give you one more, I voted for Obozo in 2008, but I wouldn't be fooled this time.
You can view me with distrust all you like, you and the rest of Obozo supporters will be crying when the rest of us are laughing cuz you will own it and can't blame anyone else.
We who keep paying and paying and paying have had enough of the takers and it is not us that will be endangered.
Now come out with the racist remarks, I know they are coming for anyone that would dare criticize your messiah.
The President NEVER circumvented the Constitution and you know it.
The only racist here is you and your ilk and we all know it. Bush had his czars but that was OK because it was Bush, right? Who do you think you're kidding? You're not talking to some brain dead bagger. I actually read and observe and you don't fool me. Sorry pal, we don't reward fools and trolls, of which you seem to be both.
You and your friends are on your way to extinction but you're not smart enough to realize it. You say you were a Democrat. Yeah, right. Maybe until you and the rest of the racists left the Democratic party and became Republicans because you didn't like what President Johnson was doing.
If what the President did was so unconstitutional why haven't the Republicans tried to impeach him? That's easy, no grounds. He was on sound Constitutional ground. They hate him so much they would if they could. They can't. Try again, Go FISH!!
Give it up Dukes, you're in way over your head.
dukes, ever heard of the War Powers Act?
Still trying to justify with your loss? Look at your policies and then try to figure it out. You lost - most free thinking Americans don't accept your views or policies. Stop trying to spin it. Move on!
@bobm-346250 who said:
"My skin color is targeted every time I walk down a dark street in just about any large city. Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, St. Louis and yes even Phoenix--you name it and are they targeting me specifically???? No they are targeting my race and you can't spin that any other way either."
That's more your paranoia and fears than reality man. African Americans are much more likely to be targeted by their own than you in the same circumstance. You're actually safer than them! But now you know how they feel walking down a small road in a small rural countryside. And a truck full of hooded Republicans with rifles pull up don't you. Over and out.
@Momma Dukes
It is exactly people like you. Who have been voting the same stupid way for over 38 years who have created all of this chaos. When the last Baby Boomer is laid to rest (and I am in this group unfortunately), that huge sigh of relief will be the rest of the world and the country finally exhaling. Your inaccuracy is simply staggering! Republicans have caused practically every single catastrophe in the country. From the Great Depression 1-Great Depression 2 (2007); Every recession in between was a GOP induced one; Price controls under Nixon; Oil Wars; Monstrous budget deficits including the current one; you name it.;The GOP screwed it up. And Democrats had to fix it. You must have really sucked at History in school.
Now sashay back over to FoxNews where they worship ignorant bliss like that gobbledegook you hurled out of your a.s.s
Wrong, it is the Democrats that always tax & spend for the social programs but have not 1 clue how to get people back to work again. You want to increase revenue, then increase jobs and get more folks in the making pool. Dems refuse to get this, they just want everyone to be on the dole.
Someone has to pay for it.
You are right about one thing, my voting Democrat for 38 years was stupid but this year I fixed that.
Get your facts straight.
Not to mention you are showing your age and intellect by your language and your childish insults.
Go back to school, it's free on Obama now remember?
@Momma Dukes:
Please spare me the bullshyt! And the pretension that you actually know what you are talking about. Just yanking "Wrong" out of your a.s.s and calling it a factual rebuttal is intellectual bankruptcy of the highest order. Let me get this straight, since you don't identify any social programs. You think they are all bad right? Including all of the GOP ones right? You do understand that massive tax cuts for the rich (2%) is a trillion dollar social program that was unpaid for don't you? You understand that the endless war spending with borrowed money is a military/social program of sorts don't you? You do understand that massive farm subsidies that encourage US farmers not to grow food is a social program don't you? You do understand that funding all public schools, colleges and hospitals are social programs don't you? You do understand that every business subsidy supported by the GOP is a social program don't you? You do know that ending banking & FDA regulations that protect citizens from hidden health risks and hidden costs are just financial taxe against the poor and middle class and a social program for the rich right?
Or does your brain only comprehend welfare and food stamps for the needy as a social program? While their real costs are a teeny-weeny percentage of the social pork going to the rich. Puhlease! Someone should have to pay for it indeed. Here is a novel idea. How about the rich & corporate folks who stole it!
I don't believe for one second your Democratic story. It is just too dumb to be true! Because it is a complete fictional distortion of facts. Taxes under Eisenhower (GOP) were a 90% rate. Understandable because we had to pay for WW2, Korean War and the Marshall Plan. But Nixon raised taxes several times. Reagan raised taxes 3 times. Bush 41 raised your taxes. President Clinton balanced the budget and left a mega Billion $ surplus. Bush 43 massively cut taxes for the rich. But converted the surplus into a gigantic multi $ trillion deficit that we are trying to crawl from underneath today. And BTW, he did this by starting 2 unfunded wars that President Obama and Democrats are trying to reconcile the costs for. His massive increase in military spending created the deficit that is "Raising" your taxes marginally today if you are rich.SO you tell me! WHo are the real tax and spenders here?
Obama's plan lowers your taxes if you make $250,000 or less. If you are so worried about the future for your children & grandchildren, you made a foolish and reckless decision on 11/6. Because the Romney/Ryan plan took their futures away and gave it to the rich with more tax cuts. While gutting services that gave your offspring a chance. You get your own facts straight! Better still, at least quote one. All you are doing here is blaming President Obama for fixing the problems created by Bush/Cheney/Hastert/Frist/Lott/Gingrich/ Delay/McConnell/Boehner. And the Republican supply side gamesmen who preceded him. your assertion about Democrats are just patently dishonest. It was Republicans that primarily grew government spending over the past 50 years. . It was just for Big military and big Corporations. While cutting spending for you!
Get a freaking clue! You made a stupid mistake on election night, if your story is true. Live with it and own it, because the rest of us covered your undeserving back. But dream on if you really think Republicans will storm back in 2014. Democrats learned their lessons in 2010.
The only one full of BS is you, under Obama the middle class is being buried.
The middle class has been hit the hardest by Obama and that is going to continue with Obamacare.
The housing bust? Came under the democrats.
And Bushwhacker went to war with Congressional approval, including the democrats.
Now Obama and his unauthorized drone strikes? Who'd he get approval from, I forget? And how many countries was that exactly? 4, 5?
How bout 79% of Obama's stimulus money went for overseas jobs, here's the link:
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/12039-obama-stimulus-funding-goes-abroad-outsources-jobs
Get a clue, you are the one that is uneducated and not informed. You continue to spout every lie Obama has told you.
And how about CNN's own fact finding on Obama's jobs? That's right, he lied about that too.
Here's the conclusion and then the link:
Conclusion:
The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/05/politics/fact-check-obama-jobs/index.html
As for Romney giving the rich tax breaks, all Obama talking points and proven untrue. You want those links too or can you do anything for yourself without being up Obama's butt.
Once again, stop spouting Obama's lies and get a clue.
Here's the entire article:
(CNN) -- Anyone watching the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday night heard the number 4.5 million several times.
"Despite incredible odds and united Republican opposition, our president took action, and now we've seen 4.5 million new jobs," San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, the party's keynote speaker, said.
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who served as President Barack Obama's chief of staff, and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who followed Obama's November rival Mitt Romney as governor of Massachusetts, both cited the same number.
Sights and sounds from the DNC
It's a big-sounding number, given the still-sputtering job market. So we're giving it a close eyeballing.
The facts:
The number Castro cites is an accurate description of the growth of private-sector jobs since January 2010, when the long, steep slide in employment finally hit bottom. But while a total of 4.5 million jobs sounds great, it's not the whole picture.
Watch full speech of Julian Castro
Photos: Best of the DNC
Nonfarm private payrolls hit a post-recession low of 106.8 million that month, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. The figure currently stands at 111.3 million as of July.
While that is indeed a gain of 4.5 million, it's only a net gain of 300,000 over the course of the Obama administration to date. The private jobs figure stood at 111 million in January 2009, the month Obama took office.
And total nonfarm payrolls, including government workers, are down from 133.6 million workers at the beginning of 2009 to 133.2 million in July 2012. There's been a net loss of nearly 1 million public-sector jobs since Obama took office, despite a surge in temporary hiring for the 2010 census.
Meanwhile, the jobs that have come back aren't the same ones that were lost.
Are you better off?
According to a study released last week by the liberal-leaning National Employment Law Project, low-wage fields such as retail sales and food service are adding jobs nearly three times as fast as higher-paid occupations.
Conclusion:
The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.
And last but not least, my taxes are going up $3700 next year BECAUSE OF OBAMA.
Stop spouting his BS that my taxes are going down cuz I make under $250,000 per year. Obamacare and it's hidden taxes are hitting the middle class the hardest.
So once again, keep spouting Obama's lies, you sound just like him on the campaign trail.
As for me, I am pretty sure that 2014 you will see another shellacking (isn't that what obama called it in 2010?) because the fact is 49% of the country is already sick of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc, the others will be as soon as the BS with the hidden taxes & the additional layoffs due to those taxes kick in in 2013.
You do know that was pushed through by Ryan and company right? I know you try to make like it was a Democratic idea but Ryan was the driving force. Read and comprehend information Dukes. Stop lying all the time.
In 2014 we'll get rid of the rest of you low information clown car passengers. We'll all come out to vote, just like on the 6th. Sucks to be a bagger doesn't it.
Wow Ryan really got CNN to put out an article on the truth with Obama? Please Mr. Sheep, you are only deluding and embarassing yourself.
The chief liar is in the WH, please direct your fact finding to him if you dare to contradict your messiah.
It's funny, the only ones calling President Obama a messiah are troll cons much like yourself. CNN is not the best example of impartial reporting so I tend to take their reporting with a grain of salt.
You can hate all you want troll. Just stay out of the way. There's work to be done and you're in the way. We'll keep moving forward and rebuilding what you and your ilk destroyed without your help.
Just do us all a favor and stay the he!! out of the way. We'll do the heavy lifting without you.
Yes, You'll keep moving backward.
Wait till the rest of the layoffs come in January when the Obamacare taxes really kick in. Actually there were quite a few announced already.
Somehow I suspect you don't work though and are simply another troll on the dole.
Dukes
You wish. I've been paying my own way since I was 13 and I don't need permission from some brain dead troll bagger for anything. My ticket has been punched Pin In Full for a long time. I have found that people that try to accuse me of being "On the Dole" are actually on it themselves.
You don't fool me troll. We're on to you. We'll keep moving forward without you. Just stay out of the way.
This is going to be a Democratic Administration for many years. After President Obama the will be more. All the Republicans have are baggers who can't win a national election, no matter how you clowns try to rig the system.
Momma Dukes - You seem to be in a minority here. Perhaps you should go back and read the headlines from Nov 7. President Obama won the election - YIKES!!! The people have spoken. I realize that you aren't happy about it but do you really think that EVERY ONE that voted for him is on the dole? I work a 10-hour day and I am a very liberal Democrat. I pick-up my mail every day and no free gift yet. Dennis, Johnny B - how about you? What free gift did you guys get?
Kim
Let's see, what free stuff did I get...well, I got to drive on a freeway that my taxes paid for. No, that's not a freebe. Well, I got to walk down my street. Well no, my taxes paid for that too. How about I got to live in my house. No, I pay the house payments and taxes on that too.
Kim, I don't think I got anything free. So much of what I enjoy I helped pay for with my taxes, along with all the other folks who actually don't have a problem with paying their taxes to enjoy so many of the things around us.
I don't feel the need for free stuff. I like all the stuff I've earned and all the things I've been able to help others achieve.
Folks like Momma Dukes hate to pay taxes but they want all the stuff those taxes provide them. I guess it's people like her that want the free stuff.
Kim:
My free gift was, I get to whack Big Momma Dukes big Elephant butt with an authentic Obama towel after that drubbing she and the GOP took on November 6. I call it the victory towel that keeps on giving. It is really funny chatting with her. She seems hopelessly lost in her own hate Obama Cassandra. She actually thinks we're deeing her point and feeling her vibes. When we're actually yucking it up big time. THis one was serious comic relief for me today. But I'm going to give Momma a break for awhile. It's beginning to feel like I'm just clubbing a baby seal. And that's not a good thing. Her and the GOP tribe need to get over their loss and move on to 2016. Where Hillary with Sherrod Brown, Deval Patrick or Charlie Crist awaits her.
One last mercy shot Dukes. I have this weird mental image of you next to Rush Limbaugh in the Anchor Bar. With both of you throwing darts at an Obama image while cussing and scarfing down a bowl of wings. I don't know what it means. So I must go now and consult with my Obama crystal Ball.
Dear President Obama, the republicans said you handed out free gifts. I'm still waiting for mine. I campaigned and voted for you.
Waiting in Seattle.
PS I'm glad you won Mr. President.
wow, $640 billion went for overseas jobs? That's amazing... And completely false...
And let's not forget that the Republicans have not been able to balance the budget since Eisenhower. That was 1961! That fifty-two YEARS. 52. More than half a century. And that is proven historical fact.
Ok...nice tally of votes there Mr Reporter. Now put a tally up there that compares number of registered voters in those districts next to actual votes cast in that district.
They can't because in some districts the votes actually tallied 3 x as many are there are registered voters.
Prove what you say Dukes. You know what proof is don't you? Well, maybe you don't. You guys and the truth aren't that close.
Yes us Democrats learned that from Obozo himself. That's all he does.
Come on troll, how about that proof. You were no more a Democrat then I was ever a stupid Republican. Who do you think you're fooling? Your bagger friends never read this far.
Yes I truly am a registered Democrat, raised outside Buffalo, NY, Catholic, and guess what sheep?
If you know anything at all about NY state, you would know it's predominately Democrat.
Now who's the idiot troll?
@Dennis Price:
I really ROFLMAO on her litany of pure bull. As you very accurately described, she's just a GOP troll over here pretending to be a long time Democrat who turned into a troll because she hates President Obama. Just absolutely hilarious. Circular illogic in TeaBag world. It's hard to count the ways she exposed her lying self for what she really is in her garbage rant above. Thanks for picking up the mantle with Ma Barker. I was done with her.
Great comments BTW. But in the end we are just talking to the Elephants behind with people like this. Ironically, she seems to actually believe her own Bullshyt! What a piece of work. Especially the 2014 threats.
@Momma:
Nobody's smoking your Ganga weed Ma! We don't believe a word you're saying. Real easy to just say stuff like you do. Prove it! You lost miserably in November. And if Upstate NY is as Democratic as you say, and you're a GOP troll out there? Well you're stuck on stupid for playing such a losing hand. Your GOP life out there must be what it feels like to be a Catholic in Utah.
Still waiting for that proof. You know what that is right. Something that actually backs up what you say. It's not that tough. Just provide a link.
Maybe you're just a troll liar. Now THAT I would believe.
Yes you've already proven that Obama supporters believe all the lies he tells.
Too funny that a Democrat couldn't possibly not like Obama, that's the part that still has me cracking up.
Guess my black daughter in law who hates Obama is not really black either? Or a Democrat? Or in your sheep brain is she just saying she hates Obama to please her mother in law? How bout her own mother? Guess what Paula was right with me voting against Obama, not voting for Romney, there is a difference.
Just keep being mindless sheep, it obviously serves you well in life. Now Latysha will be coming over here shortly with my son, I gotta let them read these posts, they like to laugh at the posts where anyone that couldn't possibly not agree with Obama be a Democrat.
Or God forbid, a black person could ever be against Obama?
Gee guess it's not Momma that's a racist after all, better look in the mirror if you think all a person is worth is the color of their skin.
@Johnny
People like Momma Dukes give themselves away right off the bat. I always love how they can't backup what they say but accuse you of being what they are. That trick is old and typical of that mindset. They think they're getting over on you when all you're doing is laughing at them.
You're right about who we're talking to. Nothing like a bunch of also ran losers. They even act like losers, no logic and no common sense. It's no wonder they can't win anymore. You have to field a candidate that actually likes ALL Americans, not just SOME Americans.
Dukes
I could care less if you have a black daughter-in-law. All that proves is that at least your son isn't an idiot.
Am I supposed to be impressed? Why? I she your trophy? I should hope not.
I have no problem with her not liking President Obama. At least she's not calling him names and putting people down that voted for him and are proud of it. That can't be said about you.
Go troll the Faux boards. They'll love you there.
Dukes is a republican...
More Americans will use food stamps to buy their Thanksgiving dinner this year than ever before, according to a new report from the nonprofit government watchdog group The Sunlight Foundation.
]The Food Stamp Challenge, which challenges higher-income families to live as if they are on food stamps, estimates that a person on food stamps has a budget of about $1.25 per meal. In other words, a family on food stamps must buy an entire meal per person for less than the cost of an average cup of coffee.
Usage of food stamps among low and no-income families has spiked since the collapse of the U.S. financial system four years ago. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, average participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or food stamp program, has increased 70 percent since 2007. And economists have warned that usage of food stamps won't go down until unemployment improves.
This Thanksgiving, 42.2 million Americans will be on food stamps, according to the Economic Policy Institute. This is roughly the size of the populations of California and Connecticut combined.
Not surprisingly, feeding millions of Americans isn't cheap. The cost of the SNAP program last year reached $72 billion, the highest to date, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Those costs are a source of major contention in Congress, which stalled on a bundle of legislation known as the farm bill this summer because it could not agree how much money should be spent on food stamps. The farm bill, which directs the nation's food policy, devotes about 80 percent of its budget to the food stamp program.
You're wasting your breath, Obama supporters will not believe anything unless Obozo spouts it from his lying lips.
@Momma Dukes who said:
"You're wasting your breath, Obama supporters will not believe anything unless Obozo spouts it from his lying lips."
We actually believe a lot of things. Like the truth for instance. I know truth is an exotic concept to you and the GOP. But when you are just a con-job GOP troll like yourself pandering lies and hate bombs on the President, we sure as heck don't believe YOU. Why don't you curb your Elephant temper a bit. You don't really expect many over here to give you a standing "O" for your hateful bullshyt do you? Go home to Fox and call President Obama all you want. They crown Pachyderms like yourself over there! You'll be much happier there. Even though you'll keep on losing.
I bet dukes blames Obama for the recession...
I don't understand why the election victory for Obama is such a mystery to republicans. It's very simple, the American people didn't want what they were selling. Especially the extreme, radical, right wing social policies.
That, plus the fact they had whack jobs running for office pretty much sums it up.
The Obama supporters never listened to anyone other than Obama and Axelrod. They never once researched anything or questioned why he broke so many of his 2008 campaign promises.
Some of us Dems did plenty of our own research, we prefer not to be referred to as Obama's mindless sheep.
And yes I am a Dem, raised outside of Buffalo, NY which happens to be almost all Democrats.
I find it amazing that if you disagree with Obama or any of his policies, we can't possibly be a Dem.
Dukes, you don't get it do you. If all you do is disagree with him nobody has a problem with that. If all you do is call him names, that's not disagreeing, that's being a not being a very smart person. Don't expect respect if all you can do is call him names an tell lies. We do know you're lying Dukes. You don't fool us.
You sound more like some troll who is weak minded and believes all the chain emails and Limbaugh/Fox BS. You don't get a standing O for that.
Just found this article,
Families in Hurricane Sandy-ravaged New Jersey will face the highest tax increase as a percentage of their income – 6.82% or about $6,933 more in taxes -- if Congress does not reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff tax issues during the lame-duck session, according to an analysis by the Tax Foundation.
In its study of how the fiscal cliff would affect typical families in each state, the Tax Foundation reports that if the numerous tax provisions that are due to expire on Dec. 31 are not changed, a four-person family in New Jersey with a median income of $101,682 will see its taxes go up at a rate 6.82 percent of its income, which translates into about $6,933.
The tax issues in question are the expiration of the Bush tax rates, which also include the elimination of the 10 percent tax bracket and the reduced deduction for married filers; ending the 2 percent cut to employee-side Social Security taxes; and the Alternative Minimum Tax.
Maryland was ranked second by the Tax Foundation because a four-person family there, with a median income of $106,707, would see its taxes go up 6.74 percent as a percentage of income, or about $7,194.
Connecticut, ranked third, would see taxes for a family of four go up by 6.62 percent, or $6,653.
All five states with the top tax increases are "blue states," which President Obama won in the 2012 presidential election. But so are four out of the bottom five states with the exception of Kansas.
Top Five Tax Increases Tax Increases as % of Income
#1 – New Jersey $6,933 6.82%
#2 – Maryland $7,194 6.74%
#3 – Connecticut $6,653 6.62%
#4 – Massachusetts $6,632 6.53%
#5 – New Hampshire $5,660 5.81%
Forty states would see tax increases between $3,000 and $3,999. Six states would see an increase between $4,000 and $4,999 and three would see increases between $6,000 and $6,999.
New Hampshire would be the only state to see a tax increase between $5,000 and $5,999 and Maryland would be the only state to see a tax increase over $7,000.
Bottom Five Tax Increases Tax Increases as % of Income
#50 – Washington $3,362 4.12%
#49 – Hawaii $3,453 4.16%
#48 – Colorado $3,646 4.29%
#47 – Kansas $3,227 4.31%
#46 – Illinois $3,417 4.32%
The potential for tax increases on millions of U.S. taxpayers is still possible, the Tax Foundation explains, and would be especially devastating for lower-income families because of the changes to the child tax credit; the elimination of the 10 percent bracket, which would go back to 15 percent; and the reduced standard deduction for married filers -- all of which are provisions in the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts.
More people live in urban/crowded cities every year, have you seen more jobs coming and migration to the rural/suburban areas last 10 or 20 years?
It is easier for goods and services to be distributed in a city than in rural America. Also utilities and housing are much easier to come by and there is a more robust social support system than in rural areas.
Let's face it, if you are off in some nowhereville, it is hard to make a living or a future unless you are farming. Better to let the good farmland grow food than to pave it over.
I have lived in or visited for extended stays about all areas of the country both red and blue states. Yes the inner city dwellers probably don't appreciate the open country areas whether farms, mountains with mining, ranches, etc., but I have always said those hard working independent folks in the open areas probably have a less stressful life in many ways than the poor ghetto folks and kids dodging gangs and bullets on their way to just get an education at school every day. We need programs to open up and connect the inner cities to the countrysides and forests, so everyone has a chance to see what makes up America, and they need that exposure young like before they leave high school so they will know there is a beautiful side of nature maybe just a couple hours drive from the concrete and asphalt inner cities they may have never ventured from. I think we would be surprised how much more peacefully and better integrated our country could be if the country folks mingled more with the city folks by getting them out to the farms, forests, ranches, deserts, lakes, rivers, etc. so they can appreciate and may choose to try both a career and life out away from the inner cities. Some rich guys should start some summer camps in these areas for inner city students.
Sign the petition to tell boehner and the republi-tards to Stop playing politics and pass the middle class tax cuts!!
Sign the petition here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/taxes/tax-cuts
Ryan is unbelievable!
The GOP is in denial.Most Americans saw through the recession the republican were selling as job creation.As demonstrated time after time by newly elected governors,the cuts only increased the unemployment and has failed to produce jobs.This insistance that these cuts would give the market so much confidence ,that even in the face of severe loss of demand,CEO'S would invest is deception at its best.Even some tea partiers realized that had the banks failed,those with over 150K in the bank ,would be lucky to get a few cents on the dollar and their stocks would have taken a deep dive.The GOP has been taken over by global investors who care litte about the general welfare of any nation including America.
@mommy dukes, yes Obama lied about jobs, nobody died. Bush lied about WMD's, over 4,000 died. So what was your point again?