Ben Smith: “Ten days after at least some Republicans were surprised to see Mitt Romney lose the presidency, the candidate is gone without a trace. There appears to be no Romney Republicanism to propagate. No Romney strategy to emulate. No Romney technology to ape. No generation shaped by his failed effort. And no Romney infrastructure to inherit, though he may still be asked to write and bundle quite a few checks.”
“Republican governors are torn between essentially staying the course in the wake of Mitt Romney’s loss and a more proactive strategy aimed at radically shaking up their party in an effort to reach out to young and minority voters,” Politico writes.
Yet, the AP’s Hunt reports, “From longtime GOP luminaries to the party’s rising stars, almost everyone asked about the Republicans’ Nov. 6 election drubbing seems to agree that a wholesale update is necessary for a party that appears to be running years behind Democrats in adapting to rapidly changing campaigns and an evolving electorate.”
(Really? Mitt and Ann Romney were spotted at the new Twilight movie in California, TMZ reports.)
Is this the answer? Florida Sen. Marco Rubio made a trip to Iowa. The AP’s Elliott: “Ostensibly, Rubio’s visit to this early nominating state was for Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad’s birthday party. But the political implications of Rubio’s visit were clear from the start as the Republican Party looks ahead to 2016’s presidential contest… But his birthday wishes for Branstad were more like a roadmap for his party looking for a new direction and an argument for a Rubio presidential campaign.”


Well, for Dog's sake, what did anybody expect? The man had no principles, no vision, and no firm beliefs except, 1. There should be NO taxes on him and his class, and 2. He deserves to be president because, you know, it's his turn. All Romney ever was was an empty suit, the ideal Norquist puppet. His nomination, right from the beginning, was as inevitable as the changing Pacific tides. The real powerbrokers behind the Republican Party knew what they didn't want in a president, and Romney was the perfect blank canvas for them.
I can just imagine ole Mitt now, hunkered down in an undisclosed location with George W, learning how to get blind, stinking inebriated... and who's to say Georgie-Boy ain't back into that there booger sugar, too? At least they're both in a position to do no further harm to the rest of us.
Unfortunately Mr. Romney has five sons following him. At least one of them will be wanting to prove he can accomplish what daddy could not. I am not sure we have really seen the last of them.
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
The craziest elements of the Republican Party were on display, for MONTHS this year, during the Primary, and I don't think this helped the Republican Party brand. Herman Cain made news with the sexual harassment allegations against him, Michelle Bachman was Sarah Palin all over again and Donald Trump was like the ringmaster of the entire circus. Romney was just not likeable enough to overcome the bad atmosphere around him.
Republicans got behind Romney when he finally won, but the number of Republicans who said they wanted another choice right up to the vote, was striking. So, I guess what I would say was, Romney was the best choice for the Republicans out of a bad field, but that doesn't mean he was a good candidate.
Foxtrotsky: "I can just imagine ole Mitt now, hunkered down in an undisclosed location with George W, learning how to get blind, stinking inebriated..."
Lets just keep a happy thought in the hopes that given enough time he can actually teach Bush to pronounce NUCLEAR!!! Good Gawd!! 8 years as the supposed leader of the free nations and we had to watch his ignorant untrainable a$$ go all over the world mis-pronouncing one of the most important words they sent with him!
That whole Republican fiasco is just an ongoing embarrassment and insult to real Americans. Whether part of them realize it yet or not.
As to Rubio, I think he has some of the same baggage that the GOP needs to shed. He won't say that the earth is more than 6,000 years old (I doubt that he actually believes in a young earth, but he is afraid to lose the wackos in his party who do believe in a young earth).
I wouldn't be too sure that Romney is "tucking his tail" and running away from anything! I wouldn't surprise me to see him have a very large effect on the political field in the very near future since he is actually a very tough intelligent character who doesn't tolerate corruption to any degree. He and a multitude of collegues will not sit by and see this country destroyed by the ignorance of it's people led by a "Pied Piper" actually led by foreigners, nor will the rest of the free world!!
Those in the position of stature like Romney are in, did not get where they are by bowing down to figurehead fools controlled by outsiders; nor are they fooled by them as uninformed voters who get caught up in a scam are!! People like Romney know how to get out of debt and prosper unlike an inexperienced, failed leader who knows little about turning a million dollar debt, much less a multi trillion dollar debt into a profitable country again!!
Obama has already promised mega bucks to give voters what they wanted to get their votes and they foolishly believed that he will keep his promises while turning around our national debt!! He couldn't even do that with a majority in both houses the first two years of his first term WITHOUT all the added promises this term. What he is not telling the American People is that the very wealthy in this country may pay the increase in taxes for the first couple of years by giving less to all of the various charities they give to help the needy and less fortunate right now. He's using their money to make himself look good when he is basically taking money that would have already been going to those less fortunate! How long do you think it will take him to raise the taxes on every citizen in this country...I would be willing to bet that it takes him less then two years if he isn't booted out first!! The very wealthy are not going to just sit back and allow him to continue to take more and more from them to pay for his promises. Their money will be safely in places that he can't touch by then and the smart ones will be with their money as well!!
If you want to know how this country will be in a very few years under Obama, you might want to look into how the Hutterites and some of the other colonies in this country live so you will know what's coming. They all eat the same, dress the same and pretty much everything they have is owned by the colonies. The younger people within the colonies are seeing the freedoms we have and are moving in this direction for a reason....they want the freedom to work and earn for themselves...AND THAT IS SOMETHING TOO MANY AMERICANS WANT FOR NOTHING!!
You will be trading your rights & your freedoms away in order to be like everyone else and will find that it sucks when you don't have them any more!! It's like being in a prison with very little rights and you actually have to earn your privileges!!
Of course, I don't know what I'm talking so just ignore me and enjoy life while you can!!
The problem is that good candidates (such as, say, Jon Huntsman) had no chance of getting the nomination in 2012. Only extremists who could placate the christo-taliban wing of the party could be nominated. In 2016, more of the old angry white men will have died off and they might have a chance to get an candidate that doesn't scare moderates and independents.
The Republicans need to understand that they can't win elections appealing to their lunatic fringe. I was reading this posting on this Republican Facebook page the said that if people just understood the importance of capitalism then more would follow the Republican mantra. Unfortunately for them they have formed this unholy alliance of capitalist, right wing religious nut jobs, birthers, college transcript demanders, white supremacist, skinheads and who knows what else that scare the living daylights out of the swing voters that really dictate who wins elections. These cretins going around saying the Republicans lost because they weren't conservative enough are clueless as to what it will take to bring the swing voters into the flock
Linda must have used quite a bit of the "wild mushroom" sauce on her turkey this year.
Screw him!
Romney's defeat was close compared to the shellacing that any of the others would have caused: Bachman, Cain, Sanatorum, Gingrich, Perry, Paul et al.
And now, the Republicans can just blame the lose on Romney's lack of conservative credentials, and not bother actually updating their 18th century outlook.
Linda: Apparently you don't realize that we lost a great deal of our freedoms with the Patriot Act enacted under Bush. I don't think the Democrats can do much more damage than that. What I fear is the fundamentalist wing of the GOP aka Tea Party. There is no reasoning with a fundamentalist. The moderate wing of the Republican party needs to take back control and quit pandering to the extremists.
This has been interesting to read these blogs for the first time. Far left liberals, Tea Partiers. Blame the GOP Blame the Dems. WE STILL HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM.
The government spending has tripled since the early Clinton years. Since the Dems took over congress in Jan of 2006 we have borrowed over 8 TRILLION dollars. For what (no Senat buget for 3 years, wonder wht they are hidding?) Our government is spending 3.7 trillion a year. We have 40 Trillion in Medicare, Medicaid and Soc Security promised entitlements coming down the pike, and Obama Care went from revenue neutral to a 2.6 million dollar cost over the next ten years (And we know Gov programs never cost more), and our military costs us another 800 billion a year. The fiscal cliff calls for 600 billion in cuts and we are borrowing 1.5 million the last six years, (real math look at gov numbers, not fuzzy math by Dems or GOP) printed 2 trillion in worthless paper money, and since FDR started Soc Security the government has borrowed 4.8 trillion from the so called funds and placed I.O.Us in the so called SS acct and doesn't count it as debt.
We need term limits, and cut spending. The Bush taxes on the rich will bring in about 70 billion year, The Bush taxes for poor and middle classs save them 350 billion a year. We need to stop spending a trillion a year or believe or not our debt could hit about 33 trillion by 2022!
The majority of people don't care about the GOP or their values anymore.
People just don't care about deficits, debt or borrowing and printing devalued currency, and they don't care about a few dead Americans in some country they will never go to. They just want their entitlements, healthcare and government sponsored programs, and they want the white people to pay for it. They see this as revenge on the America of tradition.
Further, people don't want to hear anything negative about Obama. They want an omniscient, benevolent African-American role model and leader, and talk of Trillions of Dollars of debt, mishandling foreign policy and pitting groups of Americans against each other for political gain is not what they want to hear about. People just want to be able to believe what they want to believe without the stodgy GOP raining on their parade.
Chick Binder, actually both spellings and pronunciations are correct. As with Aluminum/Aluminium, early on there was more than one way to spell and pronounce these new words. That is the key, they were both new "things" in the 20th century. Too bad blind partisanship in the media and with people like you close so many minds based on emotion.
Even now, after all these years, it is TECHNICALLY not wrong. So who needed a lesson?
Nucular is an ad hoc spelling of a metathetic alternate pronunciation of the word nuclear, representing the pronunciation /ˈnjuːkjələr/ (Canada) or /ˈnuːkjələr/ (United States) of that word instead of the standard pronunciation, /ˈn(j)uːkliːər/
If democrats really had a problem with the Patriot Act, why didn't they alter or repeal it? How is not repealing something they believe harmful NOT doing more damage? If it is as bad as you say, doe not every day it is enacted do more damage? This makes Obama just as responsible as Bush, right?
You have fallen victim to political spin, distracting you from the fact the democrats in DC are fine with it or it would not still be there. They just don't like to talk about it because the spin does not match the truth.
rubio is a product of the cuban welfare state in florida and the upcoming trial of the former gop boss greer in fla is going to expose rubio for the small time crook he is as far as jindal is concerned he looks good because the fed pumped all that money 100 billion in to la. post katrina. nice next generation wait the gov of south carlonia is just reinventing the plantation system don in the low country they also soak up as much federal money as they can get good luck with that
TO: Linda from MT who wrote:
Whaaaaaat? The man couldn't even release his taxes for fear of being prosecuted for lying on his tax returns, which is a felony!
"Doesn't tolerate corruption"! Romney had already signed on to let Grover Nordquist run the show, and George "Curveball" Bush old cabinet team ready to move in.
All Romney wanted was to live in the White House and chat in the Oval Office.
Sure Romney would have spent his time cutting his own taxes, but outside of attending State Dinners in a full blown Tux, I don't believe Romney gave a hoot about governing, and the FACT that none of Romney's "home states" nor Paul Ryan's home town voted for them tends to prove that Romney was no Governor of the People, by the People OR for the People.
All those votes went to President Obama.
Gee noncom...young earth, old earth.. that really weighs on my mind when choosing the POTUS. I wonder when the electorate will take into consideration issues like, a balanced budget and dwindling constitutional rights and freedoms when choosing a candidate.
Look what Obama inherited THIS time. He is an utter failure and only won due to the career system suckers and the voter fraud.
Right on. It looks like conservative-bashing party hosted by liberals here. Well, how about this thought. Just because Obama was elected doesn't mean your left-wing B.S. agendas are what the country wants. Obama was the lesser of two dimwits, and as long as we have a two party system in place, more and more elections will, and are, being decided this way. "Who will do the least damage," as opposed to "best person for the job." These two sentiments are light years apart. The VAST majority of people I know and work with are caught in the middle between the right and the left. Both sides are out of whack (a lot) in what the nation needs, so we are forced to ride the fence and hope for the best. Saying the Democrats are better than the Republicans is like saying lung cancer is much better than brain cancer. Both options suck.
You did get that last part right, Linda from MT.
Apparently you're unable to see the forest for the trees. Either that or you're unable to get any TV reception other than Fox.
Don't be fooled by Marco Rubio. He is a card-carrying member of the Tea Party crackpots. If the GOP runs that moron in 2016, it will probably be 2116 before any GOP candidate gets a real shot at the White House.
The majority in Florida voted for Rubio and that skinhead Scott for Governor. Watch Florida's next elections - Scott and Rubio will be out.
The questions remain--if radical changes to the TPGOP are made, will the efforts to be more inclusive and more in line with what the majority of Americans think, really be sincere, or will they just be cosmetic? Will changes fundamentally remodel the party, or, like Mr. Romney and others, what is voiced in private be a different story than what is voiced in public? One lesson TPGOP should have gotten from the election--Americans saw through the window dressing and lack of sincerity. We will do so again!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
It took the G.O.P. many years to change after the great depression, it was 40 years before the party was able to control either the house or the senate. Hopefully after the G.O.P. loses control of the house it will take 40 more years for them to promote their evil agenda.
When all was said and done on this go-round... It was actually Sarah's turn and she forgot to run.
I say that in jest of course as she can scarcely run a nylon, but looking back at their candidates is breathtaking... Almost like someone will jump out and tell us we were on Scare Tactics all along... Our brother-in-law Bernie set us up...
John: Incredibly INCORRECT history. Republicans won a Congressional majority in both houses of Congress in both 1946 and 1952, but gave them back in the next cycle.
The GOP had their cheering section made up of nutjobs like Limbaugh and Linda above and the enthusiasm of these radicals made them believe the majority of Americans were buying all these conspiracy theories they themselves made up. We weren't. Maybe when they bring their platform in line with moderate republicans and run on what they plan for the country rather than trying to paint their opponent as the devil they'll win again. A campaign of trust me isn't enough for thinking Americans. Prove you're worthy of being POTUS and that what you plan will work. Had he shown his taxes and shown what he'd do to offset his tax cut he might of had a shot.
Won't Rubio be there "token" Latino? If there isn't a top to bottom change, that is what he will be seen as.
More elected Latino Republicans in major, statewide offices than there are Latino Democrats, I believe. First Latina governor ever. Decent amount in House of Representatives. The Democratic myth will remain that there aren't any, though. And obviously, if we can't find a way to grant some sort of legal status to those who were moved here as children by their parents and had no say and are at home here and not in their country of origin, that myth will eventually become truth.
Rubio won't be a token Latino; he's part of the whacked-out Tea Party. He, SP and limp-balls will have a great time putting forth their dooms day agenda. Too bad the rest of the country is too smart to fall for that garbage.
The RNC picked the wrong horse to ride in this election.
The RHINOS who run the Republican Party should be shelved and a new generation of sane, conservative and introspective people should come forth - altho I may get "blasted" for this suggestion, perhaps the Tea Party has a few of those within their midst.
At times they appeared to be the only sensible people during this entire fiasco - all they ever wanted was to bring a little common sense back to Washington and once again adhere to the Constitution as it was written.
Just remember, no one wants actual conservative in charge the the GOP. The next generation of Conservatives are more fiscally minded and are socially progressive. This scares the currect GOPer because they believe you cannot have one without the other. They feel that you have to be pro-life to be conservative. They believe that only way to true happiness is to drive anyone different away.
I believe people who need help should be helped, and the ones that are working the system should be rooted out and put to work.
I believe any 2 adults who love each other should be able to get married. Hey, with a 70%+ Divorce rate among Heterosexuals we are not he Bastions of what marriage is supposed to portray.
This country need to take a LONG HARD LOOK in the mirror and see what we have become. We need to look inward and take care of the folks in need in the USA and protect that. We need to look at the world and say, you don't like us? Ok, move on and never look back. Just don't come screaming for help when you have a natural disaster.
These beliefs scare the crap out of conservatives. We need people in our political system that have character enough to stand up and say. Hey, I'm the GOV and I am going to get out of the way. You will succeed or fail on your own.
The tea party is traitors to this country and should be deported for their quest to destroy America's middle class.
Larry, you can't have it both ways, help or no? I am not being critical of your thoughts, but there are some things only the federal government can do. Sandy is a perfect example. There is no way any one state can help all the people with the losses they suffered or the infrastructure that needs to be rebuilt. I believe no man is an island and when all else fails the government can step in and do something. I don't like cheaters either so I think there should be more effort to stop people from gaming the system and companies too. Fraud is rampant in Medicare, subsidies and the military industrial complex. There are better ways to streamline the government than to stop helping people get ahead. Educate to emancipate, that is the key. It is not what you know that hurts you, it's what you don't know. Ignorance is not bliss, it leads to a hard life of hard work and with little to show for the effort.
John in Battle Creek, should everyone who disagrees with you be deported? Even citizens, who can't legally be deported? I don't think you should be deported, even though you are both incredibly ignorant of history and an obvious "hater", because you have every right to be such, even as I and "tea partiers" (an incredibly nebulous group imo, and not one of which I am a part) have every right to disagree with you. Free speech, it's a beautiful thing. You should try exercising it in such a way as to show something other than your ignorance and intolerance sometime .
You know, that describes Dwight Eisenhower. How ironic is it that the GOP might FINALLY get back to where it was in 1952. I guess that's an improvement over 1852.
The DNC has had just as hard of a time getting a viable candidate in the many 2nd term Republican presidential races. The incumbant always has an advantage.
McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry surely were not the best that Democrats had to offer up, right?
It goes both ways.
Socially progressive DOES NOT in ANY WAY describe Eisenhower.
Anyway, your response was dripping in bigotry, you might want to check that, it invalidates even the best point you are trying to make.
Probably the most UN AMERICAN post in the thread. Hating people because you do not agree with them is the very definition of bigotry, which is unacceptable.
@ScoMata1964:
I hate the people responsible for 9/11; do you really think ANYONE would call me a bigot?
Many GOP'ers feel that their party got hijacked by the Tea Party and they don't like that or the extreme views of the Tea Party.
You do realize that we have a little thing called 'Freedom of Speech' in this country, right? So, where do you get off calling John in Battle Creek Un-American? BTW, he never said he hated the Tea Party, he simply expressed his opinion that he does not want them in his country. Why don't you go give the First Amendment a read and when you are done if you still feel the same way, you can post again. After all, it is your right.
I still think the GOP should rename themselves the "Gathering of Puppets". They should stay out of our personal decisions, women's rights, stop trying to un-educate us, put people before profit, stop saying government is no good-SANDY victims? It is just beyond me how the south is always voting FOR republicans when they are the largest recipients of federal aid, which we all know is BAD. If they want to go, let them. Remove all the military bases, stop all federal money, and let them help people after natural disasters hit!! I never liked Romney, he is always shedding his skin to make himself more desirable to more people. As far as this election? I think we were able to see what was going on. McConnel killed a study that took 65 years to complete and tell the truth, tax cuts for the wealthy DO NOT create jobs, just personal wealth. I hope in 2014, the Democrats take back the House and then there will be some real changes made. In 2010 so many states were given to republican leadership and what did we get? Abortion laws, voter restriction, privatization, and nothing about jobs WHICH was the mantra--JOBS-JOBS-JOBS!! It is true that republican leadership creates more debt and deficit than do democrats, don't believe me, look it up. If you want to live like a republican vote for a democrat. Isn't it just a shame that all the Fox watchers were so SHOCKED when Romney lost? That party has so much to learn, they believed their own lies, they took their polls as gospel and then just about became catatonic when Obama won!! I used to vote for republicans, but until they make an honest attempt to understand the changing country and attitudes, I never will again. If FOX continues to alter the truth (read LIE), to stir the sh!t in the bucket, to look through rose colored glasses and cater to the money and the people with it, they will never win. I think the whole ajenda was to overpopulate, un-educate, and make sure only the strong survive to breed so they had a bunch of dummies that would work for next to nothing. I have a feeling though that as long as money talks there will be plenty of republicans listening to every dollar.
I have been a Dem. for fourty years it shames me , I thank the Reps have a lot more smarts anymore, the Dems are to far left for me ,and the news has been way to bias, I don't even watch abc cbs nbc cnn anymore.
Well, sometimes your party shames you. How was I supposed to feel when I heard actual Republican Senate candidates saying either that impregnation was "God's will,", or not even possible due to a woman's body somehow mystically shutting down after the rape occurred. People like that belong in therapy, not as serious candidates for election to be U.S. senators!
Donna..."The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. The worst government is often the most moral. One composed of cynics is often very tolerant and humane. But when fanatics are on top there is no limit to oppression.
"Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
Each party steals so many articles of faith from the other, and the candidates spend so much time making each other's speeches, that by the time election day is past there is nothing much to do save turn the sitting rascals out and let a new gang in." H.L. Menken
"It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office." "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." H.L. Menken
Taj:
Still laughing about the "Gathering of Puppets" comment - LOVE IT! However, I take exception to your people in the south ALWAYS voting Republican comment. With all due respect, I live in Florida and although our skin-head Republican Governor tried to hijack the election, the fact remains that Florida went DEMOCRAT for the second election in a row!
This country does not need two progressive parties. The republicans who are now ya ya ing about becoming more moderate will only taint the true progressive party of the Democrats. There is no understanding the South. E few very rich men were able to convince hundreds of thousands of dumb white boys to fight and die so the very rich could continue to own slaves. Go figure.
prog.1: The republican party has never been as far right as it is today. It's radical platform which would treat someone taking the morning after pill as a murderer because it killed a fertile egg may have the support of 20% of the population. Hard to win when you fight for an agenda most find rediculous.
If this election proved anything it is that there is too damn much money in politics.
Well, "only" six billion was spent overall, where as during the President's next term, the federal government alone will spend about sixteen trillion, or twenty-five hundred times as much. See how much will be spent marketing beer (not all alcohol, just beer) or dog food (not all pet food, just dog food) during the next four years for perspective. Also, seven of the ten largest-spending PACs were organized labor-affiliated groups, so it's not all about corporations.
Labor PACS represent millions of members and support the position of the vast majority of its members. Anyone really believe many teachers, firemen or police treated as greedy by republicans would support them? The super PACS funded by wealthy individuals the biggest of which, Sheldon was projected to save 2 billion in his first year if Romney won. Labor wants a president who at least recognizes the contribution of the majority of them even if most aren't affected at the federal level while Romney crafted special breaks specifically for his biggest donors including his proposed tax holiday on offshore money for Sheldon.
As for the debt, Bushs last budget ran from Oct. 2008 through Oct. 2009 and was projected by the CBO to run a 1.2 trillion deficit. What the right ignores is that had Obama simply ran on Bushs last budget we'd still have a 15.7 trillion debt.
I have been a Dem. for forty years and it shames me, they have went to far left for me, abc, nbc.cbs.and cnn news are so bias, they must not want to tell the people, what they should know, the truth; what a shame, and shame on them, I would not have thought this would ever happen, I guess I was wrong.
So,,, you don't watch abc, nbc, cbs or cnn. In other words, you get all your information from Fox News. Or you don't watch the news at all. It sounds like you are a conservative to me. Why do you call yourself a Democrat?
u-tube is entertaining
Go back to Faux Donna. It's not really news but they'll support your point of view by continuing their conspiracy theories against our black president. The news sources you site rely on actual news so clearly wouldn't be of interest to you. I find it unlikely Donna's ever been a democrat.
All this discussion is basically flawed. Romney, plain and simple, does still not get it. He is a rich aristocrat who has never lived the life of regular hard working people, cannot identify with them in any way and seeming is not interested in that subject. It's that he is bad guy he is just out of touch. I found that the "I'll bet you $10,000 dollars" statement during the primary explained his entire personality. That's what he is, a wealthy, money is no problem for me,spoiled business guy who thought it was his right to be president.
I could never identify much with the Kennedys, another fabulously wealthy family. They all had those aristocratic Bostonian accents. Only Bobby seemed to have any actual common touch imo, but millions seemed to worship them, and some apparently still do.
If the Republicans run Marco in 2016, but continue to cling to the anti-middle-class, anti-minority, anti-choice, and anti-female policies that they've loudly proclaimed in 2012, then Marco will be as big a FAIL as Mitt has been. Ask yourself how many black folks would vote for Clarence Thomas if they had a chance. Probably not many more than voted for Mitt the Twit. Skin color or accents are not the deciding factor -- policies are.
SteveR ... you're exactly right. Unfortunately, the GOP seems to be thinking that it has the wrong messenger, when it really has the wrong message! But, it is easier to think that you need a little tune-up instead of admitting that you're an archaic dinosaur.
A black or hispanic spouting the tea party line won't sell it any better than Romney did. Romney's implementation of Romneycare and his support of gun control shows he wasn't a true right winger he merely evolved into what would get him the right wing support. Like Romney using the dark makeup when speaking to a hispanic group they need to modify their message. Barry's right they better change the message rather than a painted messenger.
What cracks me up is that what you lefty looser types criticize Republicans for are actually things that I like about the party. Give and spend and now we are broke. Everybody looses eventually. You think that someone working hard to earn money is something to be penalized for, I can't stand it.
Did anyone see the clip on the news with Mitt pumping his own gas in a sweatshirt and messed up hair? It seemed fitting! Loser Romney paid no taxes...Bad Karma! Bad Politician! How many middle class Americans are broke today so Romney could be successful? He made money on the backs of American workers. Mitt the Twit!
legit one Ok smart boy how much federal money your party accept for their states? Just what I thought, first to piss and moan about spending but the first to stand there with your greedy little meat hooks out wanting more. Texas alone recieved over 6 billion dollars in federal assistance the last two years. Only one thing worse than a republican, a lieing republican.
Legitone: Because you can't think for yourself. You blast democrats for our 16 trillion dollar debt but ignore that Bush's last budget ran from Oct. 2008 through Oct. 2009 and was projected to increase the deficit by 1.2 trillion which had Obama simply ran the government under Bush's last budget for his 4 years we'd still have a 15.7 trillion deficit. You listen to the finger pointing from the right but aren't smart enough to realise it was republican policies that created our debt. Failing for the first time in history to fund 2 wars, a 100 billion unfunded drug plan and a 400 billion a year tax cut crashed our economy and created our debt. Yet the solution from you people was to cut taxes another 500 billion and increase military spending 200 billion a year then cry about entitlements creating our debt. Luckily most Americans are brighter than you.
P.S. It's spelled loser not looser. Loose is like change.
It's been an enjoyable two weeks. Seeing the arrogant GOP crawl away with their tail between their legs was priceless. Lesson learned: don't piss off union members, working people, and women. My few Republican friends have been knocked off their arrogant pedestal and can't seem to get back up. They are quite a bit quieter now than they've been in a while. It's going to be a fun Thanksgiving not having to listen to Republican extended family members and their loud boisterous rants--they probably will continue to rant as they don't know any better. One election will probably not get rid of their irritating arrogance, but one can hope.
LegitOne - Stop being lazy and get you head out of your Fox Noise A$$ and do some homework! You are a perfect example of one who is uneducated, delusional and too lazy to actually get facts on your own. "Give and spend and now we are broke." You actually think this is the work of 'lefty loosers"? Wow!
ladyliberty... Do not argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
"When people who are honestly mistaken learn the truth, they will either cease being mistaken or cease being honest." Unknown
As my old Irish mom would say: "They're more to be pitied than censured."
Sign the petition to tell boehner and the republi-tards to Stop playing politics and pass the middle class tax cuts!!
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A lot of GOP tactics have been so blatantly greedy, manipulative, and xenophobic over the past 30 years that I may always see the party through that lens. The party of an Old Guard that refuses to admit that things change over time. The anti-education party. The belligerent jerk party. If there are many other people like me out there, conservatives would do better to start again from scratch. I believe that there's a rational conservative voice out there that needs to play some sort of role in America, but young conservatives today have 30 years of historical baggage to deal with.
spend spend spend spend opps! no more!
Hell Romney is getting his garage elevator installed while he amends his tax returns to go after the rest of his credits before we ax all of them off his tax returns! I know how to solve the debt crisis real quick---we'll get rid of the carried interest and capital gains deduction and make it retroactive 5 years or maybe 10! Income is just going to be income and take the cap off SS and Medicare. Advise Boner that nobody touches Medicare unless we allow single payer early buy in to medicare in the debt negotiations. Institute the transaction tax on all Wall street actions and tax internet purchases. We have to go into these negotiations with barrels loaded with stuff they've never seen on the table before...We've learned...
The party can't follow Romney because he had no position-he was like jello. However the Gop shows no sign of having learned a damn thing from the shellacking they just took! They lost every major demographic group and the women are going to hurt them for YEARS because we have LONG memories when flucked over! Just ask the men with experience...
They are rudderless!!!
Won't matter. Dems will whore their vote to whoever gives them the most, this and the last elections are proof. Let's all quit our jobs and mooch off the government. Make the wealthy subsidize the lazy and stupid. When there are no more wealthy in America, what will you do? Who will you blame?
Where's all my free stuff Bammy? Where's MY free lunch?
When your state gets wiped out from a disaster remember NO MONEY FOR YOU! Eat from the trash like the rat you are.
FeistyHypocrite: Your names appropriate. You don't think Romneys promise of a 20% tax cut for everyone was an attempt to buy votes with our money? The average middle class family stood to save several thousand a year and clearly that was a factor in many voting for him. Obama's allowing some hispanics that'd been here since childhood to remain legally with a possible chance of citizenship and requiring insurance companies to cover contraception cost us nothing. Romney's 500 billion a year tax cut when we have a 16 trillion dollar debt would cost us 500 billion a year. Quit drinking the kool aid.
Feisty Hypocrite: It amazes me that you lump Democrats into the same pot as welfare recipients. I've worked all my life as have all my Democrat friends. We pay our taxes (percentages more than Romney or Buffett), own our paid for homes and cars, support our church, volunteer in the community, donate to charity, protect the environment, recycle our plastic and aluminum, vote, educate our children, have no debt and saved for our retirement. So what Democrats are you talking about? The people that you are accusing probably don't even vote.
What does that say about the competence of the Repuklican party when they nominate a candidate for president that everyone says, in hindsight, was "SO TERRIBLE, SO OUT OF TOUCH, SO UNELECTABLE". Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
Steve: The other republican candidates said that at the debates when they pointed out his refusal to release tax returns, his offshore accounts and his crafting of Romneycare. The right wing got behind Romney because he was flexible and simply added whatever they demanded to his platform. They convinced themselves that since no one could prove he was a tax cheat or used his offshore accounts to avoid taxes they weren't an issue. They were wrong. We don't have to prove he's unworthy to be POTUS he has to prove he is.
One "growing demographic" that should trouble the GOP, is the college-educated. Obama was the first Democrat ever, to receive a majority of that group.
The Fox/Rove appeal to race, religion and resentment will not help you with this group. Neither will denying Global Warming and Evolution. Time to re-tool.
Educated people don't elect a POTUS on trust or trying to create hate for the other guy, they want a man who has a plan to solve problems that he can explain.
It looks like some idiots in the Republican party will never learn!! Here's what should be done the next time some loud-mouthed ingorant politician mentions rape and abortion in the same sentence: Gag him!!! Tie him up real well, and hide him until the election's over. If theses idiot can't stop shooting off their idiot f**king mouths about this subject, the republican DERSERVES to lose!! Hello, you idiots the american public by a huge majority wants abortion to remain legal. So grow up and accept it you idiots. If YOU ARE SO PRO-LIFE, then bring back the orphanages again, make adoption easier, something!!! You might have to put some tax money into this, but you should either put your money where your mouth is, or SHUT UP! Also, get your heads out of the sand on sex education. If you don't remember what is what like, and what you were thinking about between the ages of 13-18, I suggest you TRY to remember; [abstinence?? yeah right!!!]. You really want some issues that matter to most people? Gun control [make it a self-defense issue], fixing the economy, [if you advocate the same things the dems advocate; who cares?], oh yes not EVERY economic problem can be solved with 'LESS TAXES' ; the working people in america have seen the results of the way THAT was implemented and poverty IS increasing. So you'd better think of something else besides screaming "lower taxes". Oh, as an afterthought and this goes for BOTH parties [the republicrats and the demogogues] GET RID OF YOUR LOONEY TUNE FRINGE AND TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL, THEY ARE MOST CERTAINLY NOT A MAJORITY AND THE ALIENATE THE REST OF THE ELECTORATE. If they don't like it, tell them to form their own party and let them see how FEW votes they get.
NewsFlash to RePugs........you are not the ONLY ones who work hard.......putting the word "freedom" in a sentence does NOT make it more believeable.......everyone that voted for the President IS NOT on welfare and food stamps.........and the REAL GIFTS would have been given to the millionaires and billionaires who supported "MYTH ROB-ME.......or could it be THEY were not expecting "anything" in return for the zillion dollars they spent on a canidate only 23% of the Repugs themselves wanted!
OK I think you all have said it all..Not sure what additional insult or "zinger" I can throw in here to make one either wince or grin. What I would like to see is that both sides get their act together. We have some "grownup" stuff to get done and soon. GOP get your act together. We need you. Not the social conservative agenda ... thats irrelevant. We need you to really engage not just defend old positions. Conservatives should conserve. Lower taxes does not by definition cause economic growth. Never has. Besides if we as a nation spend we need to pay for it. Man up (sorry ladies) ... Dems, reduced spending does not have to lower economic growth. Entitlement reform...get on it. I do hope 4 years from now we have candidates that can tell us what they really believe...tell their fringe to shutup ...that they are wrong when they are wrong. I want smart strong candidates on both sides that can do that. Candidates that can discuss important items even if there is not a political gain as a result and a process that requires it. I would love to see Chris Christie step up. He would not be scared to talk about important issues. Climate change. There I said it..and its real. Get over it. Defense spending. There I said it. We spend more than the next 10 nations combined and we still think thats not enough. Lets take care of our wounded and returning heros first. The world will be fine but we won't. Infrastructure. Crime/Guns. Drugs. Health. And yes I love freeedom.
Bubba
Oh, the Republicans now think Romney wasn't good enough? I don't think the clown show that was the last year before the election helped at all, but I could have got chosen over those morons. Oh, wait, I'm a woman that doesn't think men are smarter than me, so that would have got me tossed out with Huntsman. Romney flipped more than a telephone book in a windstorm, and didn't his party spend most of the election crapping on Kerry for that a few years back? If the party of 1850 doesn't get to at least the 20th Century next election, they can kiss it goodbye as far as any national election is concerned. Those states stuck in Time-Warp will eventually not elect them either, tho it might take a bit longer. America chose to re elect a guy who at least seemed to be a grown up, and not a guy who was essentially a Ken Doll with no more core or brain than that toy. And, actually, held less interest for women than Ken dolls do for little girls. Women, as was previously mentioned, have memories, and apparently news to GOPers, brains.
The Republicans still baffle me; they are SO pathetic.They have not a clue. And they blame Romney??!!
Does it occur to any of the cast of dunces, especially Milt McConnell, that the blatant actions of the Republican members of Congress holding up this country from moving forward could possibly affect the voting.
I hpe they keep it up and destroy the present Republican party.