I think gettin' over it and moving on might be more appropriate than apologies.......the continued unabated contention might make apologies rather hollow!
Pat, those are my plans as well. Looking forward to a few dinners with friends to talk about anything BUT politics!
Enjoy your weekend! By the way, I don't know if I ever told you but the Obama Diary photos were great during the election. I enjoyed all of your posts.
Sorry, Pat, I am not in a forgiving mood. I know I should be happy President Obama won re-election, however, I still toss and turn at night with thoughts of revenge against those who would do our country harm - Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, all those Republican donors, Karl Rove, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan... seriously, I'm still mad.
I sure did make it to Russia and it was spectacular!
Nicest nicest people. Particularly the younger generation.
I know you love to fly - I took 9 flights in 12 days traveling from city to city and it was great. All airplanes brand new - airports beautiful. All flights were on time. Everybody super super helpful to this Amercian lady traveling all over the country solo without knowing one word of the Russian language.
I saw a lot, but Stalingrad I really loved for its WWII history. I also went to Ekaterinberg and saw where the Romanovs were murdered and then out about 10 miles to where they were buried. I took a train to Siberia for a day and spent a few hours in the town where Irving Berlin was from. It was the first settled city in Siberia. It was beautiful.
I spent a few days in Moscow which of course was quite interesting. I stayed at the same hotel President Obama and Gorbachev and Stalin, etc. stayed in, which is across the street from Red Square.
I would love to go back someday.
Interesting tidbit - Stalin's picture is not allowed anywhere. No photos, no statutes. Nothing of him.
The Russians asked tons of questions about President Obama and all wished me luck in seeing him re-elected.
Very very nice people all over the country. Some of the tour guides even refused to accept a tip from me. I was blown away by their friendliness and interest in America and Americans. But particularly President Obama. I felt like his spokesman, LoL.
I still toss and turn at night with thoughts of revenge against those who would do our country harm
Seriously, that's no way to live, it could be worse. Think of it this way, Romney is elected, and the Republicans has the super majority. Instead of lack of sleep you would probably be on your roof ready to jump.
Hey Seeking that's not fair... why do you want to slap me??
I've turned over a new leaf... I want to spend spend spend... I think we need a HUGE stimulus to get things going!! It's oblivous to any rational person that the ways of the past do not work and the "people have spoken" so what gives???
I think a trillion dollar stimulus is just what the doctor ordered and let's soak the rich too!!
I'm dead serious about this Seeking and I think we can spend our way out don't you??
More to come later about my experiment... it will be life changing but I'm going to live up to my new moniker...woohoo!!
They don't want to tangle with our President. Did you see the cold stare our President gave them in defending UN Ambassador Susan Rice. Senators McCain and Graham had the audacity to give our President some lip.
After that smack, put 'em all in check. President Obama didn't even blink at them. Watch him coming at them.
You see McCain didn't want to have a staring contest with President. If fact, ole McGeezer didn't even look our President's way He got so scarred he missed his Benghazi hearing. LOL
See you all my friends at the Dew Drop INN so we can hoist a few in celebration.
Amy, just like Mark I buying you a Benghazi Cocktail for you so we can shoot the breeze about the right nut jobs in the media and crack up girl friend. Independent Redneck, as usual, I'm hoping I met you over yonder. Just in case those hills are too steep; I know you 'll help me out.
Mark and Domenico thank you for this forum. We've all been together a long time now through it all. I'm looking forward to even more "good times" good or bad
Great list, Pat. The apology trail should also include once Mr. Bill O'Reilly for his "people voted Obama in because they want stuff" diatribe following Romney's loss. The guy has zero class. But I'll invite him, or anyone who thinks the same way, over to my house so they can see all of the "free stuff" i've accumulated from government handouts. If they find any, they can have it. I'll say this, no need to bring anything to carry it away with.
"If all my friends were to jump off a bridge, I wouldn't follow. I'd be at the bottom to catch them when they fall." Anonymous..................Bev always more than happy to help one of my Ace Ladies over the knoll. Only question is who's going to help us both down the other side.
I have to throw this out there before we all adjourn to our respective eases or labours for this weekend. Once again, Amy B. has anticipated me by openly expressing vengeful longings towards the thieves, fixers, cranks, holy charlatans and just plain freakin' a******s who were so recently routed at the polls, but who continue their wicked infamy in the shadows, where their breed thrives.
People, this is a drum I'm going to beat again and again: We ain't won s*** just yet! We can count it a notable victory that we got our President the second term that he damn well earned, but we can't forget for a moment that the Forces of Darkness, those eternal foes of liberty and enlightenment, are plotting our country's downfall as you read this.
I am convinced that they're more dangerous now than they've ever been; they've always been evil, greedy, dishonest and ruthless, but I believe that the smarter ones have realized that their time is coming, and they mean to "rage against the dying of the light." Think of a wounded, cornered bear... getting the picture? Not really something to make fun of now, is it?
Look: I for one am sick to death of always being the ones to say let bygones, and let's move forward, and kiss and- oh, BUGGER all that! These people are cruel, amoral swine. We should not only kick them while they're down; we ought to be cutting off their heads and stuffing their mouths full of garlic!* When you are faced with a mad dog, you don't talk of compromise. If the diagnosis is cancer, you don't suggest bipartisanship as a schedule of treatment. No- we have the upper hand and the momentum, but it's ours to lose, because the other side has discipline, devotion, and a metric f***load of money.
We won the last battle with a superior ground game. We need to keep on rolling with that. They've got the money; we've got the numbers. Charge!
*Figuratively speaking, of course- only right-wingers are allowed to openly threaten violence and get away with it.
@ Maxx the Moocher, seriously Maxx? "soak the rich"? Maxx they pay half the percentage income tax as I do they are not being soaked by any stretch of the imagination.
@ Amy, you have heard me speak many times about their despicable Waterloo Strategy but I feel great now because they were soundly thumped for that behavior, they lost the oval office they lost the senate and they lost seats in the house and it will only get worse for them if they don't change that way of thinking and operating. The American electorate is not buying it, they know it is wrong and they came down on the right side no need to toss and turn and wish for revenge, they have been punished at the polls, and rest assured they will continue to be punished if their behavior continues to warrant it. The American electorate is not as shallow as many republicans have hoped, if they don't start to bargain in good faith they will continue to pay a heavy political price. Rest easy and sleep tight the majority of America has got your back, it is as it should be.
Here is a fun story that may help: A guy is sitting in a bar and the bartender says "you look like hell pal" and the guy says "I don't sleep anymore, I know it sounds childish and crazy but I worry all night that someone will come out from under my bed and get me. I went to a shrink and he said if I came twice a week at 200 bucks a half hour he could probably cure me in six months". Well about a week later the shrink calls the guy and says "hey you never showed up for your treatments" the guy says well I won't be coming in because I am cured". The shrink says "your cured?" and the guy says "yes my bartender cured me." The shrink says "your bartender cured you?" the guy says "yes my bartender cured my problem" The shrink says "now just how did your bartender cure you?" and the guy says "he told me to skip your silly treatments and just cut the legs off my bed!" -- Too bad for republicans the electorate cut the legs off their beds.
Northstar I have a women doctor, and a female patent attorney, women actually listen very carefully to what you are saying, when I'm paying that kind of dough I like them to at least listen. I also had a women heart surgeon for my triple bypass surgery, this gal looked so young I thought geez Doogie Howser's little sister is going to operate on me! She did a fabulous job you can't even tell where she harvested the veins from my leg, and I swear you can barely tell my chest was opened, instead of those big staple guns from sears men like to use I think she closed me up with superglue I barely have a scar on my chest.
They really do use a certian kind of super glue. when I sliced my finger open with a serrated bread knife, I went to urgent care. The doctor used glue. It did not leave a scar barely at all.
Yes , women are the majority in med school, law school.
Now we will have work to have a woman as president.
It's very telling how different Republicans are reacting to the election. Some have known this day was coming, while others have been in so much denial that they are still having difficulty accepting it. Others, who have aspirations are acting more sane, but it may just be acting.
Let's take the most immediate "fiscal cliff." The Republicans don't hold any cards -- zero. McConnell thinks he's going to get big cuts in trust fund programs like Social Security in exchange for agreeing to end loopholes for the rich. Really, seriously? The tax rates (Bush cuts in 2001) AND tax breaks for the rich (Bush tax cuts in 2003 for carried interest/capital gains, dividends, etc.) are the most fundamental loss of revenue, and neither are acceptable on any level going forward.
We the People need to keep the president and Dem's feet to the fire on this -- NO compromise on the richest 2% -- not even raising the cut-off to 1 million -- 500k is the absolute highest, and even that represents loss in revenue that is SO desperately needed. The $250k is the cut-off for the richest 2% "for Pete's sake," isn't it enough to be in the richest 2%?
And definitely NO cuts in trust funds like Social Security, which has nothing to do with the deficit. The majority of folks in this nation would prefer that ALL the Bush tax cuts expire rather than give away one damn thing the struggling working class relies on. Tax breaks for the working class can be restored easily and quickly after the expiration (though IMO the payroll tax cut needs to end now).
And why can taxes for those earning less than $250K be restored? Aside from the Grover Norquist pledge, and the reality of facing reelection in 2014, republicans will restore tax cuts to the working class. AND because the filibuster is going to be reformed as soon as the new congress walks in the door.
Then with the filibuster under control, a simple majority is all that will be needed to pass legislation as it should be. Then we can get a long list of things done, starting with election reform -- all the while the economy will take off because we will have tax fairness and investment in job creation -- up to Obamacare going into full effect in 2014. When folks see how wonderful the ACA is, it will open the door for universal health care.
And all this my fellow Americans is why Republicans are terrified. John McCain is terrified, not only because he personally is becoming irrelevant with no committee position, but because he represents a state that is turning purple. This is why rightwing Texans think they should succeed as well, because they want to take control of the demographics that will turn their state purple too.
Oh Lawdy, as the GOP goes through the stages of grief and the full weight of the future crashes down upon them, we can understand why they've been so unhinged throughout their primary, the denial necessary to sustain them, and now all they can turn to is trying to create a Watergate or succeed from the Union.
Progressives are not gloating -- just tremendously relieved. Hopefully the rightwing will come to realize what a wonderful direction our great nation is now going.
I'm reminded of the line Sean Connery had in The Untouchables:
You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone.
LOL
Nothing to see here...
So why do you keep coming back here, Mooch?
Now the Congress and our President have work to do.
And don't forget the people, Northstar! We have work to do as well. We need to speak up and support the President's policies. We need to tell our representives in Congress and the Senate how we want them to vote, and hold them accountable for their votes.
I know I should be happy President Obama won re-election, however, I still toss and turn at night with thoughts of revenge against those who would do our country harm - Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, all those Republican donors, Karl Rove, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan... seriously, I'm still mad.
Remember what Obama said, Amy: "Voting is the best revenge." And that's exactly what we did! We stubbornly fought tooth and nail and defeated those selfish, lying S.O.B's.
You can be certain that Trump, Rove, Limbaugh, Romney and their ilk are sleeping a lot worse than you are. Karma delivered them a doozy. They made fools of themselves and now they're slinking around with their tails between their legs. Did you see McCain speak to the press after Petraeus testified? He sounded like he was about to cry.
Between now and Thanksgiving, progressives should Email all Democrats in Congress with the header: Don't make a bad deal! And don't do anything temporary that kicks this tax correction down the road again.
Then when representatives (Durbin, Conrad, et all in particular) return from the holiday break, they will be flooded with Emails, phone calls, etc. before they set foot on the floor. The deficit is NOT as important as job creation. In fact, any agreements should be tied to an unemployment rate of 6%.
Moderate Republicans -- Don't allow the GOP to push Romney's plan that you also voted against! There is a window for progress that may not open again for a long time, and we must cease this moment.
Let's stop with the rightwing fear-mongering and the use of the term "fiscal cliff." Though some assistance like unemployment insurance and food stamps are at risk, mostly it is Wall Street that is freaking out. It should be called the Inequality Cliff, and Dems must be willing to call this bluff if that's what it takes.
Not a penny in cuts to trust funds -- The only reform to Social Security should be raising the cap on FICA withholding up to at least $250k in earnings and/or means testing. The only reform to Medicare should be negotiating with Big Pharma for better prescription pricing, and beginning to move toward universal health care and pooling everyone so the elderly can have affordable health care.
These are red lines that must be drawn -- No cuts to trust fund programs of any kind. And don't forget that spending cuts were already made at the time of the last debt ceiling debacle, without any revenue! Austerity will kill the economy, which is exactly what Republicans want. Don't play into the GOP BS for the sake of bipartisanship. Put country first!
Austerity will kill the economy, which is exactly what Republicans want. Don't play into the GOP BS for the sake of bipartisanship. Put country first!
Great comment, TP!
Is the GOP ready to put aside their hate, fear and greed and work together with Obama and other moderates for the good of the country? That remains to be seen, but we have the advantage now and we've got to hold their feet to the fire.
We must remain diligent. Remember what happened in the 2010 mid-term elections and don't allow that to happen again. Vote the Tea Party lunatics out!! There is still plenty of work to do.
We must remain diligent. Remember what happened in the 2010 mid-term elections and don't allow that to happen again. Vote the Tea Party lunatics out!! There is still plenty of work to do.
Amen.
And not only should cuts in discretionary spending be tied to an unemployment of at least 6%, but the cut-off for the wealthy should be applied both ways -- If Republicans want the cut-off to be raised above $250k to $500k or a million, then the FICA cap on Social Security contributions (currently at $106k I believe, which used to be the cut-off for the richest 5%) should be raised to the same cut-off amount. In other words, they can't have their cake and eat it too -- The rich need to pay more into Social Security instead of raising the retirement age or cutting trust fund benefits.
We know the GOP want a plutocracy with everything privatized so the rich can keep getting richer. Without a middle class democracy will end. These Teapublicans are not just greedy or stupid -- they are treasonous.
Contact congress as they return from the Thanksgiving break -- Tell them not to make a bad deal. Then get fired up and ready to go in 2014, then 2016 and make the GOP a teeny tiny minority Party until they clean up their act.
I keep hearing the media talking about how the president must lead and bring enough concessions to the table to help Boehner get the support he needs for a deal. STOP, just stop it! NO, the president and Dems don't have to do jack sh!t. They don't have to do anything except let the Bush tax cuts expire and cuts in defense spending go into place -- And then very quickly get everything The People want in cooperation from across the aisle.
I realize the media needs to debate in lieu of real investigative reporting, and ratings and advertising money... But it is not in the best of interest of this country by doing these two things:
1) Feeding the rightwing BS that the deficit is the most important thing. IT IS NOT. The most important thing is GROWTH, which will reduce the deficit. The balanced approach that President Obama campaigned on is a combination of revenue (starting with the rich paying their fair share), cuts in spending per a scalpel and not a hatchet, PLUS investment via a jobs act.
2) Feeding the righwing BS that the president and the Dems must, for some reason, appease Republicans for the sake of bipartisanship even if it means making a bad deal that favors the LOSERS of the election. The Dems won more votes for the House -- The only reason they don't have the seats to reflect the popular vote is because of Republican gerrymandering that was done after the 2010 mid-term and census. The Dems have a majority regardless of this spin -- They have the White House, Senate, and picked up seats in the House.
So just friggin' stop it -- Especially the media that pretends to be fair and balanced (MTP, CNN, etc.) and most of all the so-called "liberal" media such as MSNBC. Why the hell are you playing to the Republican lies?!!
(Now that I told you how I really feel...)
Contact congress as they return from the Thanksgiving break -- Tell them not to make a bad deal.
If it's The Week Ahead, it means it's time to head on over to the Dew Drop Inn to toss back a few with great friends!
Thank you to two of the hardest working journalists around; Mark & Domenico who provide us this little sand-box to exchange ideas, vent our frustrations and on occassion play "Whack-A-Troll"!
I'm extremely thankful to have the right man, at the right time on the right JOB for 4 more years!
Hi all, just got home from running various Thanksgiving errands! Oddly enough, the family expects a celebratory dinner on Thursday!
What oh what have we learned? We have learned that when a President does his very best in his job, no amount of money from the Koch Brothers, or lies from the Republican Presidential candidate (whose name shall not be mentioned) can stop the electorate from doing the right thing!
What oh what have the Republicans learned? Well, from the nattering they are doing, not a heckuva lot! They STILL believe you can insult blocks of voters and have them vote for the Republican candidates! They STILL believe that you can treat women as second class citizens, and have the white, old men of the Republican party try to enact punitive and humiliating laws against them, because well, they just don't like lady parts much! If they don't change the language they use toward women, if they don't get off this kick that women need to OBEY the old white men in this country, the Republican Party will continue to see that gender gap GROW!
We don't vote for those that make it clear that they don't like us. No rational person would.
Thankfuls? To the treehouse gang: we stuck together, we made phone calls, we wrote posts on FR, and we re elected the President! So glad that you are all my friends! I treasure you all! To libs who write on FR, I have made some new friends this year, and I enjoy reading what you all have to say! Keep writing, keep plugging away, we got them on the run! To thoughtful conservatives, Mark, So Cal, Alan, and Frank, thetotas, (I know there are more, consider yourself mentioned herein) thanks for the conversation over the year!
Especially to Mark and Domenico! Thanks for the election coverage! No one does it better than you, and I love to read what you have to say.
Feisty, headed YOUR way, time to ramp this party up! Happy Thanksgiving to all!
I, too, am ready for a cocktail or two and for some good snackin' with good conversation around a sparkling fire and contemplate the coming holiday.
Feisty said it so well, we have our President for four more years and will enjoy all the efforts of the wonderful volunteers such as Jody, who gave a lot of time and effort to make that possible in her state, there were thousands more throughout the land who did yeoman's work in a winning effort.
Since last week's victory, I haven't seen one post here or elsewhere from anyone on the right, saying that they worked hard for their candidate. I've only read recriminations as to why he lost and therein lies the difference between the left and the right, we believed in our candidate and worked to make it happen.
To Mark and Domenico thanks to you and your hardworking crew for all the hours you put in here to allow us to have a say.
I'll be away for a while and wish all a very Happy Thanksgiving.
To our President and his beautiful family, Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels to Mynamar, Thailand, and Cambodia, so glad you represent us.
Once again this year, I've had requests for my Vodka Christmas Cake recipe so here goes. Please keep in your files as I am beginning to get tired of typing this up every year! (Made mine this morning!!!!) 1 cup sugar, 1 tsp. Baking powder, 1 cup water, 1 tsp. Salt , 1 cup brown sugar, Lemon juice, 4 large eggs, Nuts, 1......bottle Vodka, 2 cups dried fruit.
Sample a cup of Vodka to check quality...
. Take a large bowl, check the Vodka again to be sure it is of the highest quality then Repeat. Turn on the electric mixer. Beat one cup of butter in a large fluffy bowl. Add 1 teaspoon of sugar. Beat again. At this point, it is best to make sure the Vodka is still OK. Try another cup just in case. Turn off the mixerer thingy. Break 2 eegs and add to the bowl and chuck in the cup of dried fruit.
Pick the fruit up off the floor, wash it and put it in the bowl a piece at a time trying to count it. Mix on the turner. If the fried druit getas stuck in the beaterers, just pry it loose with a drewscriver Sample the Vodka to test for tonsisticity.
Next, sift 2 cups of salt, or something. Check the Vodka. Now @!$%# shift the lemon juice and strain your nuts. Add one table. Add a spoon of sugar, or somefink. Whatever you can find. Greash the oven. Turn the cake tin 360 degrees and try not to fall over. Don't forget to beat off the turner. Finally, throw the bowl through the window.
Finish the Vodka and wipe the counter with the cat !!
Speaking of songs...I heard Taylor Swift's "We are Never Getting Back Together" on the radio the other day, and immediately thought of the Republican Partys after their war on woman!
Oooh we called it off again last night But Oooh, this time I'm telling you, I'm telling you We are never ever ever getting back together We are never ever ever getting back together You go talk to your friends talk To my friends talk to me But we are never ever ever ever getting back together
Feisty - if I didn't know better, I'd say we went to the same culinary school - Bake Your Way to Crocked!! or Crock Your Way to Baked!!, or something like that .. all recipes end with; Wipe the cat with the counter - for best results, use the BlackcatWhitecat.
Hey Feisty, I have a great idea. Why don't you send one of you vodka cakes to the Weeper of the House. I'm sure he would enjoy it, and will probably need it if he can't get his obstructionist party to work with the President to avoid this fiscal cliff fiasco.
I have Fox News and MSNBC's election night coverage on my DVR for history's sake and I keep finding new things everytime I compare the hour from 11-12 east coast time......
Jeeez I am a political junkie!
My latest discovery or should I say re-discovery(Cause I vaguely heard it that night) is Rachel Maddow's shout out to the WWW crowd when she mentions *Pop-Corn* at about the time Karl Rove is tuning in his tin-foil hat to figure out how and if R-Money lost...Way after even the network he was on called the election.
By the way Guys I look FORWARD to spending time on here while I am cooking Wednesday night and all day Thursday...
And Feisty I will have to try and FORWARD that cake recipe to my lover to bake.....I just am not a baker unless it is the main course or side but not cakes and cookies...
Feisty--- I know it's kinda late on a Friday night but I think when I tried your celebratory drink "Vodka Christmas Cake Recipe" tonight, I skrewed up. I followed the recipe meticushoshly. I did as you suggested and sifted the vodka and then I drank two cups of salt but it still came out a little dry.
I'm still smiling at our great victory this election. In 2014 we take back the House from the Repugnant ones.
Tom, I understand your angst, and I have to apologize. I also followed the recipe meticulushly and ended up with Baked Whisk. Being a stones throw from your neck of the woods, that burning metal smell is, sadly to say, from my house. Good news though, the eggs on the ceiling made a great omelet, and the fruit compost will be a a great chutney for the turkey I'm going to deep-fry in the pool this weekend (provided I can get it hot enough). I gotta tell ya, I loves me some Floyd and Betty Schnockered-Crockered cooking school. Now where the hell is my Kitchen-Aid Whisk?
RedDevPS---My wife and I owned an Italian restaurant when we were in our 20's. I was the cook and between Veal, Chicken and the Pasta dishes I had to pass the very hot Pizza oven and there was the beer tap which I generously tapped into. I'm sure it made the food taste better. It did for me. Cheers!
Since last week's victory, I haven't seen one post here or elsewhere from anyone on the right, saying that they worked hard for their candidate. I've only read recriminations as to why he lost and therein lies the difference between the left and the right, we believed in our candidate and worked to make it happen.
That was a gem, GM! There were more than three hundred thousand living, breathing volunteers working their butts off to get out the vote for Obama on election day. Romney did robocalls. All one has to do is compare the two post-election rallies to see which candidate was loved and which one earned only a bit of 'meh' from his supporters. Money can't buy you love.
We need conservative viewpoints too, just so long as they are rational and constructive. There's room at the table for everyone in this crazy, mixed up country. The conservatives have some valid and important points but when they're delivered hatefully and condescendingly they fall on deaf ears.
Personally, I think we were due for exactly the scenario we faced, given the demographics that are re-making the U.S. population and the fundamentalist religious revival that the millenium brought about. The GOP needs to learn to get past the fear and the greed.
We're at the crossroads of forward and backward, and thanks in no small part to all of your shrewd observations about the issues and challeges we face, we made it happen for Barack Obama to get a second term. We are moving forward, slowly but surely!
Getting ready for one of my very favorite holidays! Great food, great friends, family home, and no gifts required!
...and still celebrating our stupendous victory!! FOUR MORE YEARS! :)
afraid the homestead is dry as a bone ... but them my muse may show up with a bottle of imagination. Barring that a quiet evening with a biography of Amelia Earhart. Flights of fancy one way or the other.
It has become apparent to the Proprietors of the Dew Drop Inn that an inordinate number of our friends and neighbors are still suffering a bad case of the Doldrums over Ol’ Willard’s and Lil’ Paulie’s recent poor showing in our National Election. This is characterized by a general disbelief, constipation, sleepiness, poor altitude and failure to see a way clear short of succession to go on with life.
Now we’re going to suggest that some of you’ll Yahoo’s are looking at this little deal the wrong way. All’s we did was save you’ll from the embarrassment of having the Wool Pulled over Your Eyes by certain Wool Pulling World Champeen’ Groups and Organizations. Why you need look no further than you’lls Convention of Yahoo Governor’s this week that basically have rejected Ol’ Willard’s Wool Pulling in favor of more updated and socially and subtle acceptable methods. Shucks within a month or two you’re going to be hard pressed getting anybody to admit that they even voted for Ol’ Willard much less Supported him in his little quest.
So basically we have just done what one good hearted American does for another. Saved you from suffering the embarrassment of having the Wool pulled over your eyes and then having to put on a bold front to keep from admitting it. No thanks necessary it was our pleasure and we hope that you’ll will someday be able to return the favor.
So down at the Dew Drop Inn we are going to throw all of our“free” gifts in the pot and have our first “Cry in Your Beer and Then Get Over Yourselves” party. So all of you’ll with the Doldrums can come on down and get it out of your system before you ruin Thanksgiving for yourselves and your progeny. We’ll have a lot of good old crying songs on the Juke Box and plenty of them old Tearjerker Movies playing on the Big Screens. You’ll come on down and throw you a good drunk and cry in your beer and drinks and play ifa, coulda, woulda, shoulda all weekend and when you get to far in your cups we will do what all we always done and take you’ll over to the Comeback Inn to sleep it off and administer a little bit of our patented Hangover cure. Hoping you’ll can get over yourselves and come Monday morning see fit to rejoin the Human Race.
As always my thanks and appreciation to our hosts for their time, giving me a little place to stand, a subject to comment on, a forum to put it in, and their indulgence when I don’t quite get it right or get a little off subject. I purely do appreciate it. Hope you’ll have a fine weekend and good fun among folks that you know and love. To my fellow participants keep well, keep safe, and keep the faith. We’ll make it. See you’ll next week
Tunemiesters why don’t you throw a quarter in the old Beat Box and hit D-16. I believe that a little Crystal Gayle “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” will start us off about right.
Well BCWC I guess in your case we'll have to call it Mid-Christmas and if your stuff is same as mine you didn't have that much to give so we'll overlook it. Main thing is participation to help our good friends over the Doldrums. Man I haven't seen a sorrier bunch in years.
IR, good one; it isn't the weekend without some IR humor. Thanks for opening the DDI doors to the dearly distraught yahoos. Maybe a good cry in their beer will make them feel a little better. Of course, there won't be any FOX News at the DDI so maybe they'll get a dose of reality along with that beer crying. Me, I'm having a gin & tonic.
Thanks to our First Read hosts, Mark and Domenico, for another week of fine articles for us to debate. Have a great weekend, everyone.
That Canadian Thanksgiving is obviously a conspiracy to steal our turkeys and pee pee on our parade. Typical Canadian aggression against our tiny, peaceful country!
I ( and certain savvy members of the congress) know that Jill Kelley and her (evil?) twin are somehow connected to this attempt to undermine our national Le Grand Bouffe...Whoops! That's French!
Jody I felt it was the least we could do. Tryed Fox News on the Big Screens a couple of years ago and had to replace two of them 'cause folks threw things at them something awful. Best cure for the Doldrums is a good dose of Reality mixed in with the Hangover cure.
Newday I'm just celebrating not having to bring in the Trachoe to clean the horsecrud off the front porch down at the Inn. We've got enough stockpiled to last us several years and then we can see where the next election takes us.
All the best to my GBM Ace and Abbie Hoffman and family too. Enjoy yourself and come back to us soon. You know how Old Uncle Redneck misses his Ladies when they're gone.
For those sobbing in their beers, I recommend we hang a big poster of Obama, and play "It Had to be You", on the jukebox.
Domenico/Mark, thanks for hosting this little corner of the FR blogs world. It was quite a year.
Make my order my usual, a large Vodka martini, shaken well, with a twist, and a glass of ice water to back it up. Two or more should do me up just fine!!
Cheers All - and have a great weekend. Ciao and over and out!!
Indy Red, if we're hosting a "Get Over It Already" party for the Party of No, I'd like next request on that jukebox-
- I had in mind Motorhead's classic "Just 'Cause You've Got The Power(Don't Mean You've Got The Right)", followed by their less well-known but equally apropos "Die You Bastard"- that second track especially for Lyin' Ryan.
Who says country songs have all the best titles? Peace, y'all!
Looks like the party is in high gear from all the previous posts.
And those in the party of No , trust me you will get over it.
Being a life long liberal, there were many a president that I never voted for.
Just worked harder for the Democratic candidates next time.
So this happy,happy Democrat will have a sniffer of Drambuie, a coffee on the side, a footstool for my feet, watching the crackling fire here at the DDI.
Love the music, love all my liberal friends, Frist Read and even love the right wing posters who have shown up in the last week, relax it will only get better......
Best cure for a hangover? The election results of November 6, 2012!
BCWC...you guys were smart to do Thanksgiving in October. Ours is too close to Christmas. That's about the only thing I can think of that Abe Lincoln got wrong. Nonetheless, we carry on. Stay warm up there!
Talk nice to the Canadians, Mark, unless you want some icy wind up your shorts. ;)
It's not their fault that their grandads emigrated to the 'wrong' side of that imaginary line. There are plenty of people who think they did the smart thing...
A Canadian joke:
Poor Canada! They could have had British culture, French cuisine and American technology, but instead they ended up with American culture, British cuisine and French technology.
With apologies to my Canadian friends (who refer to us as The United Snakes of America).
On Janruary 20, 2009 the GOP/Tea Beggers 'conspired' to drive the American People, the US Economy, and the Office of the Presidency. At their "Caucus Conspiracy" the Tea Beggers took their "Blood Oath" to destroy the President at all costs. At the Caucus Steakhouse Restaurant in Washington the GOP/RNC 'conspirators' agreed to say no to every piece of legislation the Democrats present to the Congress. Read the book by Robert Draper America, and this will help everyone understand what the GOP/Tea Beggers are doing today.
No Kannin, just making sure everyone remembers the conspiratorial treason committed by the GOPers in 2009. They put partisan power in front of the countries well being as their agenda. The people noticed! It is only the ignorant or blind that don't recognize what Yertle McConnell, TP Cantor, the weeper of the house and others tried to do!
You have been bleating for four years that all of Obama's failures are due to lack of cooperation by the Republicans. Nevertheless, you still voted for him knowing full well that he would never be capable of creating consensus among the various political factions within our government.
That's what you voted for. That's what you got. And if you don't like it, you have only yourself to blame.
Nope, doesn't work that way. The Republicans were well and truly chastened by the voting public. It is up to THEM to remember their role as the "loyal opposition". Agreeing where they can, offering reasonable ideas when they can't, and remembering always that their FIRST obligation is COUNTRY, not party.
You saying that we should "quit complaining about it is ironic considering the unjustified rants and conspiracy theories that you post about your President.
Why don't you join us in solving problems rather than spinning around in the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh world of the mentally ill and challenged?
The House is still Republican. The Senate is still Democrat. The President is still Incompetent.
And you were gullible enough to believe that there would be some magical change to the status quo if Obama won? How could any intelligent person believe that if you reelect a dysfunctional government, it would miraculously metamorphose into a butterfly?
I noticed that too, blearyeyed. Whattsamatter, Kannin? Didn't you get the memo?
How could any intelligent person believe that if you reelect a dysfunctional government, it would miraculously metamorphose into a butterfly?
How could any intelligent person believe that governing a nation of over 300 million diverse souls could be accomplished without some compromise from the opposition?
You voted for a toad, Kannin and poof! just like that, he's gone!
Now go re-read the fairy tales and learn the lessons you should have learned as a child. We'll wait.
Liberals on the far left are so hateful and disrespectful. It really amazes me of the hypocrisy you all employ... How 'bout REALLY thinking of others and not what others can do for you? The misguided in High School have a place to vent.
From: MODERATE (Means middle of the road to all you far wingers). Good of country... For the PEOPLE... Forget that in simple civics class??? Buncha morons I tell ya..
Ah, but we are not 'liberals on the far left'! We ARE moderates. Your side moved so far to the right that the middle looks radical to you!
Come on! Did you really think MOST Americans wanted the rich to keep getting huge tax breaks while the rest of us pay more of our dwindling resources to plug the hole they created? Did you really think we wanted another war in the Middle East? More jobs shipped overseas? An end to the separation of church and state? Women treated like chattel? Minorities disenfranchised? Voting rights curtailed? Lies accepted as truth? A government run solely by the corporate interests? Crazy evangelicals calling the shots?
Is that really what you wanted?
Come back to reality...there's a great view from here!
Wow... I can't believe what I'm reading... I change my mind about spending and one guy says I need an operation and another says soaking the rich is not the right verbiage... Wow tuff crowd... so this is what the party of inclusion is all about ? When someone has changed his mind about a policy you continue to kick him? wow just wow... I can see I don't fit in with the bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs, sooo I just talk with reasonable people who want to have an adult conversation about the issues of the day and leave the "cheap shots/negative comments" to the small minded, knuckle dragging, bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs...This should drop down the pool of people I will have conversation with considerably... So let the games begin and good luck to you !!
Just remember I give as good as I get...but some of you already know that!!
sooo I just talk with reasonable people who want to have an adult conversation about the issues of the day and leave the "cheap shots/negative comments" to the small minded, knuckle dragging, bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs...
Mooch, a word of advice: don't start every conversation by insulting the other party. You might find that a little bit of humility and honest self-awareness is just the ticket.
The House is still Republican. The Senate is still Democrat. The President is still Incompetent.
True, true and what? How do you measure incompetent? By your own feeble mind, by comparison to G. W. Bush or by some other abstract reason? President Obama completed a long list of accomplishments. It would have been a lot more if the house would have done something other than trying to limit women's healthcare (>100 times), repeal the ACA (>30 times) or name post offices they want to privatize and close!
Give it to them Obama!
The following need to apologize:
Let’s see -
The GOP media to Nate Silver
Republican pollsters to republican voters
Sen. McCain to Ambassador Rice
Karl Rove to his money handlers
Gen. Petraeus to his wife
Charlie Webster to all blacks in Maine
Sen. Lindsay Graham to people who know a con job when they
see one
John Husted to all Ohio voters
Gov. Rick Scott to all voters period
Mitch McConnell to Americans everywhere
Mitt Romney to American workers, women, immigrants, veterans
The Republican Party to people who still believe in the old Republican Party
____________
If I caused you pain
I know I’m to blame
Must have been insane, believe me
From the bottom of my heart, dear
I apologize
If I made you blue, I've had heartaches too
Now I beg of you, forgive me
From the bottom of my heart, dear
I apologize
Timi Yuro will get you started. The most heart wrenching of all heart wrenching apologies. From the bottom of her heart -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpOcsCd1-Wc&feature=related
Say it – I apologize.
Great post, Pat!
Pat,
I think gettin' over it and moving on might be more appropriate than apologies.......the continued unabated contention might make apologies rather hollow!
Well hellooooooooooooo Mark!
Layton, enjoy your weekend. Last weekend was all about recovering. This weekend - catching up with old friends we left behind during the campaign.
Hi Pat!
Did ya make it to Russia?
funny sht Pat, I like da way you think!
Pat, those are my plans as well. Looking forward to a few dinners with friends to talk about anything BUT politics!
Enjoy your weekend! By the way, I don't know if I ever told you but the Obama Diary photos were great during the election. I enjoyed all of your posts.
Sorry, Pat, I am not in a forgiving mood. I know I should be happy President Obama won re-election, however, I still toss and turn at night with thoughts of revenge against those who would do our country harm - Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, all those Republican donors, Karl Rove, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan... seriously, I'm still mad.
I sure did make it to Russia and it was spectacular!
Nicest nicest people. Particularly the younger generation.
I know you love to fly - I took 9 flights in 12 days traveling from city to city and it was great. All airplanes brand new - airports beautiful. All flights were on time. Everybody super super helpful to this Amercian lady traveling all over the country solo without knowing one word of the Russian language.
I saw a lot, but Stalingrad I really loved for its WWII history. I also went to Ekaterinberg and saw where the Romanovs were murdered and then out about 10 miles to where they were buried. I took a train to Siberia for a day and spent a few hours in the town where Irving Berlin was from. It was the first settled city in Siberia. It was beautiful.
I spent a few days in Moscow which of course was quite interesting. I stayed at the same hotel President Obama and Gorbachev and Stalin, etc. stayed in, which is across the street from Red Square.
I would love to go back someday.
Interesting tidbit - Stalin's picture is not allowed anywhere. No photos, no statutes. Nothing of him.
The Russians asked tons of questions about President Obama and all wished me luck in seeing him re-elected.
Very very nice people all over the country. Some of the tour guides even refused to accept a tip from me. I was blown away by their friendliness and interest in America and Americans. But particularly President Obama. I felt like his spokesman, LoL.
A Benghazi Cocktail to Amy to help her loosen up!
The republicans will cave and still be blamed for the disaster that waits us...
Nothing to see here...
I say let's have a spending party... spend spend spend... give the prez all the spending money he wants!!
Stick it to the rich and give it to the poor... woohoo... President Robin Hood... my hero!!
I want more... gimme gimme gimme
Layton, I sure loved your posts as well.
Amy, I know how you feel, but we all need to turn the page, particularly the GOP. They have to sign up for the 21st Century.
Awesome, Pat. Sounds like a fantastic trip, glad you had a good experience there. Looking forward to going back myself.
American celebrities from Russia - I found Yul Brynner's birthplace in Vladivostok!
Pat - I agree but then you see the post by Maxx and you just want to slap some people!!!! They NEVER learn!
SeekingSanity, WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't care anymore about the GOP negativity. That's their problem not ours.
We're good. We're all good.
I hope President Obama enjoys his second term more than his first. I think he will. He's moved on from the nuts in the GOP. Most of us have.
Can't wait to meet you next summer!
Amy,
I still toss and turn at night with thoughts of revenge against those who would do our country harm
Seriously, that's no way to live, it could be worse. Think of it this way, Romney is elected, and the Republicans has the super majority. Instead of lack of sleep you would probably be on your roof ready to jump.
You decide.
Pat - you're right! And, I can't wait to meet you either. It is going to be fun to finally put faces with their posts!
Enjoy your weekend and let's hope we ALL enjoy the next 4 years!
thetotas - nope - I'd go to the top of Sears (Willis) tower - would definitely want a VERY high place to jump from!
Hey Seeking that's not fair... why do you want to slap me??
I've turned over a new leaf... I want to spend spend spend... I think we need a HUGE stimulus to get things going!! It's oblivous to any rational person that the ways of the past do not work and the "people have spoken" so what gives???
I think a trillion dollar stimulus is just what the doctor ordered and let's soak the rich too!!
I'm dead serious about this Seeking and I think we can spend our way out don't you??
More to come later about my experiment... it will be life changing but I'm going to live up to my new moniker...woohoo!!
Chicago Thug
Give it to them Obama!
They don't want to tangle with our President. Did you see the cold stare our President gave them in defending UN Ambassador Susan Rice. Senators McCain and Graham had the audacity to give our President some lip.
After that smack, put 'em all in check. President Obama didn't even blink at them. Watch him coming at them.
President Obama You Got A Problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki6uwCFWoSQ
You see McCain didn't want to have a staring contest with President. If fact, ole McGeezer didn't even look our President's way He got so scarred he missed his Benghazi hearing. LOL
See you all my friends at the Dew Drop INN so we can hoist a few in celebration.
Amy, just like Mark I buying you a Benghazi Cocktail for you so we can shoot the breeze about the right nut jobs in the media and crack up girl friend. Independent Redneck, as usual, I'm hoping I met you over yonder. Just in case those hills are too steep; I know you 'll help me out.
Mark and Domenico thank you for this forum. We've all been together a long time now through it all. I'm looking forward to even more "good times" good or bad
Great list, Pat. The apology trail should also include once Mr. Bill O'Reilly for his "people voted Obama in because they want stuff" diatribe following Romney's loss. The guy has zero class. But I'll invite him, or anyone who thinks the same way, over to my house so they can see all of the "free stuff" i've accumulated from government handouts. If they find any, they can have it. I'll say this, no need to bring anything to carry it away with.
umm, that's one Mr. Bill O'Reilly.
"If all my friends were to jump off a bridge, I wouldn't follow. I'd be at the bottom to catch them when they fall."
Anonymous..................Bev always more than happy to help one of my Ace Ladies over the knoll. Only question is who's going to help us both down the other side.
Hey, Maxx the Moocher- you know there's an operation now that can cure your condition.
They call it an addadicktome. Give that a try and let us all know how it works out for you.
All the rest of us- we're really happy with "that hopey-changey thing", thanks for asking!
I have to throw this out there before we all adjourn to our respective eases or labours for this weekend. Once again, Amy B. has anticipated me by openly expressing vengeful longings towards the thieves, fixers, cranks, holy charlatans and just plain freakin' a******s who were so recently routed at the polls, but who continue their wicked infamy in the shadows, where their breed thrives.
People, this is a drum I'm going to beat again and again: We ain't won s*** just yet! We can count it a notable victory that we got our President the second term that he damn well earned, but we can't forget for a moment that the Forces of Darkness, those eternal foes of liberty and enlightenment, are plotting our country's downfall as you read this.
I am convinced that they're more dangerous now than they've ever been; they've always been evil, greedy, dishonest and ruthless, but I believe that the smarter ones have realized that their time is coming, and they mean to "rage against the dying of the light." Think of a wounded, cornered bear... getting the picture? Not really something to make fun of now, is it?
Look: I for one am sick to death of always being the ones to say let bygones, and let's move forward, and kiss and- oh, BUGGER all that! These people are cruel, amoral swine. We should not only kick them while they're down; we ought to be cutting off their heads and stuffing their mouths full of garlic!* When you are faced with a mad dog, you don't talk of compromise. If the diagnosis is cancer, you don't suggest bipartisanship as a schedule of treatment. No- we have the upper hand and the momentum, but it's ours to lose, because the other side has discipline, devotion, and a metric f***load of money.
We won the last battle with a superior ground game. We need to keep on rolling with that. They've got the money; we've got the numbers. Charge!
*Figuratively speaking, of course- only right-wingers are allowed to openly threaten violence and get away with it.
@ Maxx the Moocher, seriously Maxx? "soak the rich"? Maxx they pay half the percentage income tax as I do they are not being soaked by any stretch of the imagination.
@ Amy, you have heard me speak many times about their despicable Waterloo Strategy but I feel great now because they were soundly thumped for that behavior, they lost the oval office they lost the senate and they lost seats in the house and it will only get worse for them if they don't change that way of thinking and operating. The American electorate is not buying it, they know it is wrong and they came down on the right side no need to toss and turn and wish for revenge, they have been punished at the polls, and rest assured they will continue to be punished if their behavior continues to warrant it. The American electorate is not as shallow as many republicans have hoped, if they don't start to bargain in good faith they will continue to pay a heavy political price. Rest easy and sleep tight the majority of America has got your back, it is as it should be.
Here is a fun story that may help: A guy is sitting in a bar and the bartender says "you look like hell pal" and the guy says "I don't sleep anymore, I know it sounds childish and crazy but I worry all night that someone will come out from under my bed and get me. I went to a shrink and he said if I came twice a week at 200 bucks a half hour he could probably cure me in six months". Well about a week later the shrink calls the guy and says "hey you never showed up for your treatments" the guy says well I won't be coming in because I am cured". The shrink says "your cured?" and the guy says "yes my bartender cured me." The shrink says "your bartender cured you?" the guy says "yes my bartender cured my problem" The shrink says "now just how did your bartender cure you?" and the guy says "he told me to skip your silly treatments and just cut the legs off my bed!" -- Too bad for republicans the electorate cut the legs off their beds.
Forrest,
It was a good election all the way around. The people have spoken and they always have the last word.
Now the Congress and our President have work to do.
I hope the dysfunction of Congress is racheted down to a squeeky wheel.
I am so hoping that the filibuster rules will be changed as the first order of business of the new Senate in Jan.
and I am loving all the new women senators...
Northstar I have a women doctor, and a female patent attorney, women actually listen very carefully to what you are saying, when I'm paying that kind of dough I like them to at least listen. I also had a women heart surgeon for my triple bypass surgery, this gal looked so young I thought geez Doogie Howser's little sister is going to operate on me! She did a fabulous job you can't even tell where she harvested the veins from my leg, and I swear you can barely tell my chest was opened, instead of those big staple guns from sears men like to use I think she closed me up with superglue I barely have a scar on my chest.
Forrest,
They really do use a certian kind of super glue. when I sliced my finger open with a serrated bread knife, I went to urgent care. The doctor used glue. It did not leave a scar barely at all.
Yes , women are the majority in med school, law school.
Now we will have work to have a woman as president.
It's very telling how different Republicans are reacting to the election. Some have known this day was coming, while others have been in so much denial that they are still having difficulty accepting it. Others, who have aspirations are acting more sane, but it may just be acting.
Let's take the most immediate "fiscal cliff." The Republicans don't hold any cards -- zero. McConnell thinks he's going to get big cuts in trust fund programs like Social Security in exchange for agreeing to end loopholes for the rich. Really, seriously? The tax rates (Bush cuts in 2001) AND tax breaks for the rich (Bush tax cuts in 2003 for carried interest/capital gains, dividends, etc.) are the most fundamental loss of revenue, and neither are acceptable on any level going forward.
We the People need to keep the president and Dem's feet to the fire on this -- NO compromise on the richest 2% -- not even raising the cut-off to 1 million -- 500k is the absolute highest, and even that represents loss in revenue that is SO desperately needed. The $250k is the cut-off for the richest 2% "for Pete's sake," isn't it enough to be in the richest 2%?
And definitely NO cuts in trust funds like Social Security, which has nothing to do with the deficit. The majority of folks in this nation would prefer that ALL the Bush tax cuts expire rather than give away one damn thing the struggling working class relies on. Tax breaks for the working class can be restored easily and quickly after the expiration (though IMO the payroll tax cut needs to end now).
And why can taxes for those earning less than $250K be restored? Aside from the Grover Norquist pledge, and the reality of facing reelection in 2014, republicans will restore tax cuts to the working class. AND because the filibuster is going to be reformed as soon as the new congress walks in the door.
Then with the filibuster under control, a simple majority is all that will be needed to pass legislation as it should be. Then we can get a long list of things done, starting with election reform -- all the while the economy will take off because we will have tax fairness and investment in job creation -- up to Obamacare going into full effect in 2014. When folks see how wonderful the ACA is, it will open the door for universal health care.
And all this my fellow Americans is why Republicans are terrified. John McCain is terrified, not only because he personally is becoming irrelevant with no committee position, but because he represents a state that is turning purple. This is why rightwing Texans think they should succeed as well, because they want to take control of the demographics that will turn their state purple too.
Oh Lawdy, as the GOP goes through the stages of grief and the full weight of the future crashes down upon them, we can understand why they've been so unhinged throughout their primary, the denial necessary to sustain them, and now all they can turn to is trying to create a Watergate or succeed from the Union.
Progressives are not gloating -- just tremendously relieved. Hopefully the rightwing will come to realize what a wonderful direction our great nation is now going.
Apologies for typos/spelling errors above...
I'm reminded of the line Sean Connery had in The Untouchables:
LOL
So why do you keep coming back here, Mooch?
And don't forget the people, Northstar! We have work to do as well. We need to speak up and support the President's policies. We need to tell our representives in Congress and the Senate how we want them to vote, and hold them accountable for their votes.
Remember what Obama said, Amy: "Voting is the best revenge." And that's exactly what we did! We stubbornly fought tooth and nail and defeated those selfish, lying S.O.B's.
You can be certain that Trump, Rove, Limbaugh, Romney and their ilk are sleeping a lot worse than you are. Karma delivered them a doozy. They made fools of themselves and now they're slinking around with their tails between their legs. Did you see McCain speak to the press after Petraeus testified? He sounded like he was about to cry.
Rest assured that you've already gotten revenge!
Kaybeetoys,
Absolutely, we the people need to keep Congress feet to the fire.
Don't really have much faith in this lame duck one, but come January it will be a whole new day.
And the filibuster is the number one thing the Dems need to fix on day one.
kaybeetoys & NorthstarDFL -- Agreed, great posts.
Between now and Thanksgiving, progressives should Email all Democrats in Congress with the header: Don't make a bad deal! And don't do anything temporary that kicks this tax correction down the road again.
Then when representatives (Durbin, Conrad, et all in particular) return from the holiday break, they will be flooded with Emails, phone calls, etc. before they set foot on the floor. The deficit is NOT as important as job creation. In fact, any agreements should be tied to an unemployment rate of 6%.
Moderate Republicans -- Don't allow the GOP to push Romney's plan that you also voted against! There is a window for progress that may not open again for a long time, and we must cease this moment.
Let's stop with the rightwing fear-mongering and the use of the term "fiscal cliff." Though some assistance like unemployment insurance and food stamps are at risk, mostly it is Wall Street that is freaking out. It should be called the Inequality Cliff, and Dems must be willing to call this bluff if that's what it takes.
Not a penny in cuts to trust funds -- The only reform to Social Security should be raising the cap on FICA withholding up to at least $250k in earnings and/or means testing. The only reform to Medicare should be negotiating with Big Pharma for better prescription pricing, and beginning to move toward universal health care and pooling everyone so the elderly can have affordable health care.
These are red lines that must be drawn -- No cuts to trust fund programs of any kind. And don't forget that spending cuts were already made at the time of the last debt ceiling debacle, without any revenue! Austerity will kill the economy, which is exactly what Republicans want. Don't play into the GOP BS for the sake of bipartisanship. Put country first!
Spell checkers, gees -- seize this moment, not cease.
Great comment, TP!
Is the GOP ready to put aside their hate, fear and greed and work together with Obama and other moderates for the good of the country? That remains to be seen, but we have the advantage now and we've got to hold their feet to the fire.
We must remain diligent. Remember what happened in the 2010 mid-term elections and don't allow that to happen again. Vote the Tea Party lunatics out!! There is still plenty of work to do.
Happy Days are here again.
Hello President Obama.
Amen.
And not only should cuts in discretionary spending be tied to an unemployment of at least 6%, but the cut-off for the wealthy should be applied both ways -- If Republicans want the cut-off to be raised above $250k to $500k or a million, then the FICA cap on Social Security contributions (currently at $106k I believe, which used to be the cut-off for the richest 5%) should be raised to the same cut-off amount. In other words, they can't have their cake and eat it too -- The rich need to pay more into Social Security instead of raising the retirement age or cutting trust fund benefits.
We know the GOP want a plutocracy with everything privatized so the rich can keep getting richer. Without a middle class democracy will end. These Teapublicans are not just greedy or stupid -- they are treasonous.
Contact congress as they return from the Thanksgiving break -- Tell them not to make a bad deal. Then get fired up and ready to go in 2014, then 2016 and make the GOP a teeny tiny minority Party until they clean up their act.
I keep hearing the media talking about how the president must lead and bring enough concessions to the table to help Boehner get the support he needs for a deal. STOP, just stop it! NO, the president and Dems don't have to do jack sh!t. They don't have to do anything except let the Bush tax cuts expire and cuts in defense spending go into place -- And then very quickly get everything The People want in cooperation from across the aisle.
I realize the media needs to debate in lieu of real investigative reporting, and ratings and advertising money... But it is not in the best of interest of this country by doing these two things:
1) Feeding the rightwing BS that the deficit is the most important thing. IT IS NOT. The most important thing is GROWTH, which will reduce the deficit. The balanced approach that President Obama campaigned on is a combination of revenue (starting with the rich paying their fair share), cuts in spending per a scalpel and not a hatchet, PLUS investment via a jobs act.
2) Feeding the righwing BS that the president and the Dems must, for some reason, appease Republicans for the sake of bipartisanship even if it means making a bad deal that favors the LOSERS of the election. The Dems won more votes for the House -- The only reason they don't have the seats to reflect the popular vote is because of Republican gerrymandering that was done after the 2010 mid-term and census. The Dems have a majority regardless of this spin -- They have the White House, Senate, and picked up seats in the House.
So just friggin' stop it -- Especially the media that pretends to be fair and balanced (MTP, CNN, etc.) and most of all the so-called "liberal" media such as MSNBC. Why the hell are you playing to the Republican lies?!!
(Now that I told you how I really feel...)
Contact congress as they return from the Thanksgiving break -- Tell them not to make a bad deal.
If it's The Week Ahead, it means it's time to head on over to the Dew Drop Inn to toss back a few with great friends!
Thank you to two of the hardest working journalists around; Mark & Domenico who provide us this little sand-box to exchange ideas, vent our frustrations and on occassion play "Whack-A-Troll"!
I'm extremely thankful to have the right man, at the right time on the right JOB for 4 more years!
YES WE DID! ;o)
Thank God! Definitely in need of a cocktail, a few snacks, and some conversation that has NOTHING to do with Benghazi!!!
Feisty, you said it. I'm also grateful that we have President Obama's wise leadership for 4 more years.
Hi all, just got home from running various Thanksgiving errands! Oddly enough, the family expects a celebratory dinner on Thursday!
What oh what have we learned? We have learned that when a President does his very best in his job, no amount of money from the Koch Brothers, or lies from the Republican Presidential candidate (whose name shall not be mentioned) can stop the electorate from doing the right thing!
What oh what have the Republicans learned? Well, from the nattering they are doing, not a heckuva lot! They STILL believe you can insult blocks of voters and have them vote for the Republican candidates! They STILL believe that you can treat women as second class citizens, and have the white, old men of the Republican party try to enact punitive and humiliating laws against them, because well, they just don't like lady parts much! If they don't change the language they use toward women, if they don't get off this kick that women need to OBEY the old white men in this country, the Republican Party will continue to see that gender gap GROW!
We don't vote for those that make it clear that they don't like us. No rational person would.
Thankfuls? To the treehouse gang: we stuck together, we made phone calls, we wrote posts on FR, and we re elected the President! So glad that you are all my friends! I treasure you all! To libs who write on FR, I have made some new friends this year, and I enjoy reading what you all have to say! Keep writing, keep plugging away, we got them on the run! To thoughtful conservatives, Mark, So Cal, Alan, and Frank, thetotas, (I know there are more, consider yourself mentioned herein) thanks for the conversation over the year!
Especially to Mark and Domenico! Thanks for the election coverage! No one does it better than you, and I love to read what you have to say.
Feisty, headed YOUR way, time to ramp this party up! Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Feisty - see ya at the DDI - save a seat for me! We'll definitely do some celebrating ...again!!!!
I, too, am ready for a cocktail or two and for some good snackin' with good conversation around a sparkling fire and contemplate the coming holiday.
Feisty said it so well, we have our President for four more years and will enjoy all the efforts of the wonderful volunteers such as Jody, who gave a lot of time and effort to make that possible in her state, there were thousands more throughout the land who did yeoman's work in a winning effort.
Since last week's victory, I haven't seen one post here or elsewhere from anyone on the right, saying that they worked hard for their candidate. I've only read recriminations as to why he lost and therein lies the difference between the left and the right, we believed in our candidate and worked to make it happen.
To Mark and Domenico thanks to you and your hardworking crew for all the hours you put in here to allow us to have a say.
I'll be away for a while and wish all a very Happy Thanksgiving.
To our President and his beautiful family, Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels to Mynamar, Thailand, and Cambodia, so glad you represent us.
Once again this year, I've had requests for my Vodka Christmas Cake recipe so here goes. Please keep in your files as I am beginning to get tired of typing this up every year! (Made mine this morning!!!!) 1 cup sugar, 1 tsp. Baking powder, 1 cup water, 1 tsp. Salt , 1 cup brown sugar, Lemon juice, 4 large eggs, Nuts, 1......bottle Vodka, 2 cups dried fruit.
GM - have a WONDERFUL, safe Thanksgiving. We ALL have SOOOOOO much to be thankful for!
Feisty - LOVE IT! (I think I've made that before - can't quite remember!)
FEISTY! That was amazing! Can't wait to try that cake! Or the vodka, whichever comes first!
Safe travels to you & the family Gingerbread Mamma!
*Salud* to my wonderful First Read family!
My Pookie cat will never forget... lol
I object most strenuously. Hssssttt!
Speaking of songs...I heard Taylor Swift's "We are Never Getting Back Together" on the radio the other day, and immediately thought of the Republican Partys after their war on woman!
GBM: good travels to you! Slainte!
GBM, thanks for the shout out and enjoy your time away. Feisty, now that's a cake!!!
Feisty - if I didn't know better, I'd say we went to the same culinary school - Bake Your Way to Crocked!! or Crock Your Way to Baked!!, or something like that .. all recipes end with; Wipe the cat with the counter - for best results, use the BlackcatWhitecat.
GBM - ENJOY!!!!!!!
Hey Betty Anyway I can substitute Old Uncle Jack for the Vodka in that cake. Vodka might upset my delicate system don't cha' know.
Snap! Red Dev! I think I went to those culinary schools as well, but I majored in "Sometimes I cook with wine, but mostly I just drink it!"
Red,
You can just call me "Betty Crockeder"! ;o)
Absolutely Floyd!
You can pick which ever poisen your little heart desires! As long as I can catch you for breakfast one of these days!
Layton - I LOVE your new avatar!
Oh you will my Lady. One of these days when your least expecting it WHOMP there it is.
Now, there is a business venture if I ever saw one - Floyd Schnockered and Betty Crockered's Culinary School of Fine Cousine!!
Red specializing in Cakes that nobody has to eat and Breakfasts that somebody can miss and still have a Wonderfulllll time
Thanks, Feisty! Kind of felt like changing it up today! Have a great weekend! You don't have to worry about da Bears until Monday!
Hey Feisty, I have a great idea. Why don't you send one of you vodka cakes to the Weeper of the House. I'm sure he would enjoy it, and will probably need it if he can't get his obstructionist party to work with the President to avoid this fiscal cliff fiasco.
Gingerbread mom
Have a safe and happy trip. I'll hoist another one for you!!!
Do you have any idea how painful it is when a vodka martini comes shooting through your nose? lmao
Layton - I always said wining and dining was overrated - wining and wining is soooo much more fun!!
Thanks Feisty I feared you would say NO GIN!
Layton,
Well this sucks! It's official, Jay Cutler will not play! BOOOOO!
ExitO,
Hey... whatever tickles your fancy! ;o)
Tony,
I'm afraid it wouldn't be "strong" enough to quench his thirst! lol
I have Fox News and MSNBC's election night coverage on my DVR for history's sake and I keep finding new things everytime I compare the hour from 11-12 east coast time......
Jeeez I am a political junkie!
My latest discovery or should I say re-discovery(Cause I vaguely heard it that night) is Rachel Maddow's shout out to the WWW crowd when she mentions *Pop-Corn* at about the time Karl Rove is tuning in his tin-foil hat to figure out how and if R-Money lost...Way after even the network he was on called the election.
By the way Guys I look FORWARD to spending time on here while I am cooking Wednesday night and all day Thursday...
And Feisty I will have to try and FORWARD that cake recipe to my lover to bake.....I just am not a baker unless it is the main course or side but not cakes and cookies...
To Mitt
Ooh, walk, walk, walk, walk
Ooh, walk like a man
Oh, how you tried
To cut me down to size
Telling dirty lies ...
Barack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BMYZBVbifh8
Betty Cooker's Crock Book!
Feisty--- I know it's kinda late on a Friday night but I think when I tried your celebratory drink "Vodka Christmas Cake Recipe" tonight, I skrewed up. I followed the recipe meticushoshly. I did as you suggested and sifted the vodka and then I drank two cups of salt but it still came out a little dry.
I'm still smiling at our great victory this election. In 2014 we take back the House from the Repugnant ones.
Tom, I understand your angst, and I have to apologize. I also followed the recipe meticulushly and ended up with Baked Whisk. Being a stones throw from your neck of the woods, that burning metal smell is, sadly to say, from my house. Good news though, the eggs on the ceiling made a great omelet, and the fruit compost will be a a great chutney for the turkey I'm going to deep-fry in the pool this weekend (provided I can get it hot enough). I gotta tell ya, I loves me some Floyd and Betty Schnockered-Crockered cooking school. Now where the hell is my Kitchen-Aid Whisk?
RedDevPS---My wife and I owned an Italian restaurant when we were in our 20's. I was the cook and between Veal, Chicken and the Pasta dishes I had to pass the very hot Pizza oven and there was the beer tap which I generously tapped into. I'm sure it made the food taste better. It did for me. Cheers!
That was a gem, GM! There were more than three hundred thousand living, breathing volunteers working their butts off to get out the vote for Obama on election day. Romney did robocalls. All one has to do is compare the two post-election rallies to see which candidate was loved and which one earned only a bit of 'meh' from his supporters. Money can't buy you love.
We need conservative viewpoints too, just so long as they are rational and constructive. There's room at the table for everyone in this crazy, mixed up country. The conservatives have some valid and important points but when they're delivered hatefully and condescendingly they fall on deaf ears.
Personally, I think we were due for exactly the scenario we faced, given the demographics that are re-making the U.S. population and the fundamentalist religious revival that the millenium brought about. The GOP needs to learn to get past the fear and the greed.
We're at the crossroads of forward and backward, and thanks in no small part to all of your shrewd observations about the issues and challeges we face, we made it happen for Barack Obama to get a second term. We are moving forward, slowly but surely!
Getting ready for one of my very favorite holidays! Great food, great friends, family home, and no gifts required!
...and still celebrating our stupendous victory!! FOUR MORE YEARS! :)
Wrap some weed in a dollar and smoke a Fiscal Spliff followed by a Benghazi Martini. It will all be just fine.
Still have a little of those pre-op opiates left over eh?...;)
afraid the homestead is dry as a bone ... but them my muse may show up with a bottle of imagination. Barring that a quiet evening with a biography of Amelia Earhart. Flights of fancy one way or the other.
blackcatwhitecat---- I followed your advice and rolled some Benghazi and then I mixed a Fiscal Martini. It really hit the spot.
Just don't try to deep-fry your turkey under the influence, BCWC. Trust me on that.
Better to eat out or order in... :)
On the menu at Romney's house: humble pie.
It has become apparent to the Proprietors of the Dew Drop Inn that an inordinate number of our friends and neighbors are still suffering a bad case of the Doldrums over Ol’ Willard’s and Lil’ Paulie’s recent poor showing in our National Election. This is characterized by a general disbelief, constipation, sleepiness, poor altitude and failure to see a way clear short of succession to go on with life.
Now we’re going to suggest that some of you’ll Yahoo’s are looking at this little deal the wrong way. All’s we did was save you’ll from the embarrassment of having the Wool Pulled over Your Eyes by certain Wool Pulling World Champeen’ Groups and Organizations. Why you need look no further than you’lls Convention of Yahoo Governor’s this week that basically have rejected Ol’ Willard’s Wool Pulling in favor of more updated and socially and subtle acceptable methods. Shucks within a month or two you’re going to be hard pressed getting anybody to admit that they even voted for Ol’ Willard much less Supported him in his little quest.
So basically we have just done what one good hearted American does for another. Saved you from suffering the embarrassment of having the Wool pulled over your eyes and then having to put on a bold front to keep from admitting it. No thanks necessary it was our pleasure and we hope that you’ll will someday be able to return the favor.
So down at the Dew Drop Inn we are going to throw all of our“free” gifts in the pot and have our first “Cry in Your Beer and Then Get Over Yourselves” party. So all of you’ll with the Doldrums can come on down and get it out of your system before you ruin Thanksgiving for yourselves and your progeny. We’ll have a lot of good old crying songs on the Juke Box and plenty of them old Tearjerker Movies playing on the Big Screens. You’ll come on down and throw you a good drunk and cry in your beer and drinks and play ifa, coulda, woulda, shoulda all weekend and when you get to far in your cups we will do what all we always done and take you’ll over to the Comeback Inn to sleep it off and administer a little bit of our patented Hangover cure. Hoping you’ll can get over yourselves and come Monday morning see fit to rejoin the Human Race.
As always my thanks and appreciation to our hosts for their time, giving me a little place to stand, a subject to comment on, a forum to put it in, and their indulgence when I don’t quite get it right or get a little off subject. I purely do appreciate it. Hope you’ll have a fine weekend and good fun among folks that you know and love. To my fellow participants keep well, keep safe, and keep the faith. We’ll make it. See you’ll next week
Tunemiesters why don’t you throw a quarter in the old Beat Box and hit D-16. I believe that a little Crystal Gayle “Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue” will start us off about right.
I already had Thanksgiving and I'm keeping my stuff!
Well BCWC I guess in your case we'll have to call it Mid-Christmas and if your stuff is same as mine you didn't have that much to give so we'll overlook it. Main thing is participation to help our good friends over the Doldrums. Man I haven't seen a sorrier bunch in years.
IR, good one; it isn't the weekend without some IR humor. Thanks for opening the DDI doors to the dearly distraught yahoos. Maybe a good cry in their beer will make them feel a little better. Of course, there won't be any FOX News at the DDI so maybe they'll get a dose of reality along with that beer crying. Me, I'm having a gin & tonic.
Thanks to our First Read hosts, Mark and Domenico, for another week of fine articles for us to debate. Have a great weekend, everyone.
That Canadian Thanksgiving is obviously a conspiracy to steal our turkeys and pee pee on our parade. Typical Canadian aggression against our tiny, peaceful country!
I ( and certain savvy members of the congress) know that Jill Kelley and her (evil?) twin are somehow connected to this attempt to undermine our national Le Grand Bouffe...Whoops! That's French!
Jody I felt it was the least we could do. Tryed Fox News on the Big Screens a couple of years ago and had to replace two of them 'cause folks threw things at them something awful. Best cure for the Doldrums is a good dose of Reality mixed in with the Hangover cure.
Hey, hey, we are the official turkey tasters. If we live then so do you. Sheesh, show some gratitude cousins.
Now Danger there you go getting those poor suffering folks all het up with them dang conspiracy theory's
IR: That was the BEST! Happy weekend, my good friend!
who cares about canada, they had their thanksgiving, the slime! they only good for that single malt
Newday I'm just celebrating not having to bring in the Trachoe to clean the horsecrud off the front porch down at the Inn. We've got enough stockpiled to last us several years and then we can see where the next election takes us.
I don't know Chicago a Molson's Golden hits the spot on a hot day.
amen brother... forgot about dat
ok, i'm going to give canada my thumbs up...
Here you go cuz'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBylRo
No doubt, IR, a lot of horse hockey was flung, to be sure!
You not my cuz, but that funny sht danger!
guess i should treat my neighbor to the north with some 'spect. my bad they just so very white up there, it scary
IR.....well said. Happy Thanksgiving.
suck on This :-)
youtube.com/watch?v=LJFyTADfxK4&feature=fvwrel
All the best to my GBM Ace and Abbie Hoffman and family too. Enjoy yourself and come back to us soon. You know how Old Uncle Redneck misses his Ladies when they're gone.
...at least they say...
"sorry aboot that" Eh...;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg
For those sobbing in their beers, I recommend we hang a big poster of Obama, and play "It Had to be You", on the jukebox.
Domenico/Mark, thanks for hosting this little corner of the FR blogs world. It was quite a year.
Make my order my usual, a large Vodka martini, shaken well, with a twist, and a glass of ice water to back it up. Two or more should do me up just fine!!
Cheers All - and have a great weekend. Ciao and over and out!!
Indy Red, if we're hosting a "Get Over It Already" party for the Party of No, I'd like next request on that jukebox-
- I had in mind Motorhead's classic "Just 'Cause You've Got The Power(Don't Mean You've Got The Right)", followed by their less well-known but equally apropos "Die You Bastard"- that second track especially for Lyin' Ryan.
Who says country songs have all the best titles? Peace, y'all!
Looks like the party is in high gear from all the previous posts.
And those in the party of No , trust me you will get over it.
Being a life long liberal, there were many a president that I never voted for.
Just worked harder for the Democratic candidates next time.
So this happy,happy Democrat will have a sniffer of Drambuie, a coffee on the side, a footstool for my feet, watching the crackling fire here at the DDI.
Love the music, love all my liberal friends, Frist Read and even love the right wing posters who have shown up in the last week, relax it will only get better......
Hey FoxTrotsky,
Love your choice in music...keep them coming.
IR-----I only wish I could write like you going FORWARD.
That is what they need in a nutshell.....
And it will be priceless watching them deny their savior....
Way more than the proverbial three times no doubt.....
Like you said we will be hard pressed to hear any one say they knew him let alone supported him in a few months(Paraphrasing of course)....
Kinda like the Romnesia with George W. Bush....
IR, thanks for getting the party started!
Best cure for a hangover? The election results of November 6, 2012!
BCWC...you guys were smart to do Thanksgiving in October. Ours is too close to Christmas. That's about the only thing I can think of that Abe Lincoln got wrong. Nonetheless, we carry on. Stay warm up there!
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funny, Dangerfield..
think I'll spool up Canadian Bacon!
damm kanuks
Talk nice to the Canadians, Mark, unless you want some icy wind up your shorts. ;)
It's not their fault that their grandads emigrated to the 'wrong' side of that imaginary line. There are plenty of people who think they did the smart thing...
A Canadian joke:
Poor Canada! They could have had British culture, French cuisine and American technology, but instead they ended up with American culture, British cuisine and French technology.
With apologies to my Canadian friends (who refer to us as The United Snakes of America).
On Janruary 20, 2009 the GOP/Tea Beggers 'conspired' to drive the American People, the US Economy, and the Office of the Presidency. At their "Caucus Conspiracy" the Tea Beggers took their "Blood Oath" to destroy the President at all costs. At the Caucus Steakhouse Restaurant in Washington the GOP/RNC 'conspirators' agreed to say no to every piece of legislation the Democrats present to the Congress. Read the book by Robert Draper America, and this will help everyone understand what the GOP/Tea Beggers are doing today.
So you are already blaming conservatives for blunders that Obama hasn't even committed yet. Well, nothing like planning ahead...
No Kannin, just making sure everyone remembers the conspiratorial treason committed by the GOPers in 2009. They put partisan power in front of the countries well being as their agenda. The people noticed! It is only the ignorant or blind that don't recognize what Yertle McConnell, TP Cantor, the weeper of the house and others tried to do!
You have been bleating for four years that all of Obama's failures are due to lack of cooperation by the Republicans. Nevertheless, you still voted for him knowing full well that he would never be capable of creating consensus among the various political factions within our government.
That's what you voted for. That's what you got. And if you don't like it, you have only yourself to blame.
Quit complaining about it!
Wow. A remarkable view of the world by Kannin.
Nope, doesn't work that way. The Republicans were well and truly chastened by the voting public. It is up to THEM to remember their role as the "loyal opposition". Agreeing where they can, offering reasonable ideas when they can't, and remembering always that their FIRST obligation is COUNTRY, not party.
You saying that we should "quit complaining about it is ironic considering the unjustified rants and conspiracy theories that you post about your President.
Why don't you join us in solving problems rather than spinning around in the Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh world of the mentally ill and challenged?
The House is still Republican. The Senate is still Democrat. The President is still Incompetent.
And you were gullible enough to believe that there would be some magical change to the status quo if Obama won? How could any intelligent person believe that if you reelect a dysfunctional government, it would miraculously metamorphose into a butterfly?
Anyone else notice how 99% of the rwnj's disappeared from this site after Mitt canceled their credit cards?
I noticed that too, blearyeyed. Whattsamatter, Kannin? Didn't you get the memo?
How could any intelligent person believe that governing a nation of over 300 million diverse souls could be accomplished without some compromise from the opposition?
You voted for a toad, Kannin and poof! just like that, he's gone!
Now go re-read the fairy tales and learn the lessons you should have learned as a child. We'll wait.
Liberals on the far left are so hateful and disrespectful. It really amazes me of the hypocrisy you all employ... How 'bout REALLY thinking of others and not what others can do for you? The misguided in High School have a place to vent.
From: MODERATE (Means middle of the road to all you far wingers). Good of country... For the PEOPLE... Forget that in simple civics class??? Buncha morons I tell ya..
Ah, but we are not 'liberals on the far left'! We ARE moderates. Your side moved so far to the right that the middle looks radical to you!
Come on! Did you really think MOST Americans wanted the rich to keep getting huge tax breaks while the rest of us pay more of our dwindling resources to plug the hole they created? Did you really think we wanted another war in the Middle East? More jobs shipped overseas? An end to the separation of church and state? Women treated like chattel? Minorities disenfranchised? Voting rights curtailed? Lies accepted as truth? A government run solely by the corporate interests? Crazy evangelicals calling the shots?
Is that really what you wanted?
Come back to reality...there's a great view from here!
...still celebrating...
Wow... I can't believe what I'm reading... I change my mind about spending and one guy says I need an operation and another says soaking the rich is not the right verbiage... Wow tuff crowd... so this is what the party of inclusion is all about ? When someone has changed his mind about a policy you continue to kick him? wow just wow... I can see I don't fit in with the bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs, sooo I just talk with reasonable people who want to have an adult conversation about the issues of the day and leave the "cheap shots/negative comments" to the small minded, knuckle dragging, bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs...This should drop down the pool of people I will have conversation with considerably... So let the games begin and good luck to you !!
Just remember I give as good as I get...but some of you already know that!!
Mooch, a word of advice: don't start every conversation by insulting the other party. You might find that a little bit of humility and honest self-awareness is just the ticket.
@ kaybeetoys
Excellent comments!
I've read all of your comments on this thread, and I have say, you are truly a breath of fresh air!
Why, thank you, boehnersucks! I do appreciate your kind words.
Happy Thanksgiving!
True, true and what? How do you measure incompetent? By your own feeble mind, by comparison to G. W. Bush or by some other abstract reason? President Obama completed a long list of accomplishments. It would have been a lot more if the house would have done something other than trying to limit women's healthcare (>100 times), repeal the ACA (>30 times) or name post offices they want to privatize and close!
Hypocrites, GOPers be thy name!