The last days of Romneyland

 

BOSTON -- From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.

Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.

Don Emmert / AFP - Getty Images file

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney arrives on stage to concede the election to President Barack Obama on November 7, 2012 in Boston.

"Fiscally conservative," sighed one aide the next day.

In conversations on Wednesday, aides were generally wistful, not angry, at how the campaign ended. Most, like their boss, truly believed the campaign's now almost comically inaccurate models, and that a victory was well within their grasp.

(Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment.)

Yesterday afternoon, campaign manager Matt Rhoades thanked the staff in one last meeting at the campaign's Boston HQ, as did Romney and his wife, Ann.

Romney was stoic - thanking the team for their hard work and telling them he did not plan to disappear. (Aides to Romney said they were optimistic he would be receptive to a sincere offer from the president to work together)

Ann Romney's remarks brought several staffers to tears as she told the assembled group that they would always be part of the fabric of the Romney family.

After their speeches, Tagg Romney drove the former candidate and his wife home to Belmont.

The office at 585 Commercial St. was largely packed up by the close of business Wednesday (one aide said it looked like it had been sacked by Visigoths), but some staffers will return today to remove their things.

The Mitt Romney for President financial entity survives for as long as two more years, as bills are paid and FEC documents are filed.

Thousands of hours of campaign and family videos stored on a server will soon find a home for safekeeping for the family.

Many Romney aides borrowed from the Capitol Hill staffs of other top Republicans, like John Boehner and Paul Ryan, return to work this week.

Most everyone else takes a break and starts looking for work again -- with vacations planned in the mountains of Colorado, rounds of golf booked in Florida and rental vans on hold to move lives back to D.C. and other parts unknown.

By Wednesday evening, campaign staffers noticed a dramatic drop off in email traffic, as the campaign's prolific "war room" email system, which blast out reporters stories and tweets of note to the campaign, fell silent. 

It's dry season for campaign operatives though, and a few aides said they expect it to be January before they're re-employed. Some said they would be quitting politics, at least for now.

In the meantime, lots of Marriott points will be cashed in.

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Comment author avatarF6ZmanRestored

Something is Not Right, The 2008 Elections had 69,456,897 and 59,934,814 Votes. Now, In the 2012 Elections There was 60,743,181 And 57,853,713. So, There should be about 10 Million More votes, What the Hell Happened?

  • 26 votes
#1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:28 PM EST
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The United States of America, From 1776 - Nov. 6 2012. Our First Communist Gets a Second Term.

  • 51 votes
#1.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST
Comment author avatarDa NoidExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The United States of America, From 1776 - Nov. 6 2012. Our First Communist Gets a Second Term.

If you remember Hee-Haw then feel free to sing along with me...

Gloom, despair, and agony on me!
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery!
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all!
Gloom, despair, and agony on me!

...and now, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty.

  • 124 votes
#1.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST

you did recieve an education, right?

  • 60 votes
#1.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:36 PM EST

Noid -

For those who don't remember:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5ob9B9yD4

  • 38 votes
#1.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST
F6ZmanDeleted

Okay, it is one thing to be fiscally conservative, as one aide put it, but to deny your aides one last cab ride on the campaign dime? And people really have to wonder why their candidate did not win? The flip flopper is and always will be a self serving money machine. I wish him and Ann good health, but that is about as far as I go. Of everything, the cab fair thing is really sticking in my craw. Sorry, aides, you've been "bamboozled" and after all the smoke clears you will see it just as most of us saw it from the very beginning.

Oh, hey everyone! Flag the F6Zman for his 1.1 comment. Let's stop this crap! Oh, also 1.5 comment from the same.

  • 163 votes
#1.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:48 PM EST
Comment author avatarAl in Visalia CAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Suck it up F6. If we can put up with 8 years of Bush, you should be able to somehow survive 8 years of Obama. Either that or continue your pathetic pissing and moaning for our collective amusement. Your choice.

PS ***********SCOREBOARD **********************

  • 215 votes
#1.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:49 PM EST

F6Zman - YOU and people LIKE YOU are the reason the Repubican party is going to H*ll!

  • 197 votes
#1.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@AlaskaGirl-759554 Mitt Romney Did not Win because of Voter Fraud and Lots of Idiots who Voted for Him.

Lets take Women's, Latino's, Black's, Gay's and Asian's Right to Vote away, Only white Males Should be Able to Vote!

  • 12 votes
#1.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST
Comment author avatarF6ZmanExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I know, since I hate Liberalism that Makes me a "'Republican". Haven't you people heard of THIRD PARTIES?! I do not like the Two Party System.

  • 11 votes
#1.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:51 PM EST

Romneyland was quite the fantasyland where facts didn't matter, polls were skewed and the math didn't add up.

Time to get real Republicans.

  • 157 votes
#1.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:55 PM EST

I'll admit it, reading about the aftermath of losing Republican campaigns is a guilty pleasure of mine. I can't wait for all the delicious details to come out too! Will the wealthy donors roast Karl Rove over a fire? Will they make him sell his house to pay them back? Do tell!

  • 172 votes
#1.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:01 PM EST
Comment author avatarsreeeeminglibExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

F6Zman

Mitt Romney Did not Win because of Voter Fraud and Lots of Idiots who Voted for Him.

lol..except for the "voter fraud" I agree with you!

  • 58 votes
#1.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST

To the moderators on the board today: Please take care of deleting some of the comments from F6Zman.

Thank you!

  • 118 votes
#1.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:03 PM EST

Amy, I'll join you in that guilty pleasure. Reminds me of when I actually read People magazine while getting my hair done!

AlaskaGirl, I thought the credit card stunt was quite telling to his character as well.

  • 114 votes
#1.15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:04 PM EST

Before F6 commented, I was almost missing all the RWNJs. Almost. I'm relieved to see he learned nothing from the election. If the rest of them didn't learn, we will just exterminate the remainder in 2014 and 2016 and ...

  • 79 votes
#1.16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST
Comment author avatarblackcatwhitecatExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

F6Zman

I was kinda hoping for a flag with the Crescent Moon on it, damn. Maybe we can get a hammer and moon instead.

  • 31 votes
#1.17 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:06 PM EST

Wow, did they even get to check out of their hotel rooms? Man, that seems harsh - you know, for members of the 'family' and all.

Imagine how abruptly they would have slammed the door on the 47%?

Thank goodness we don't have to!

Layton, nice profile pic!

  • 120 votes
#1.18 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:19 PM EST

LOL Thanks Clara for pointing out Layton's new profile pic! Nice, Layton!

Yes, Clara, I agree. The "family" certainly was well taken care of weren't they?

  • 57 votes
#1.19 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST

Wow F6Z gives a whole new meaning to crazy conservative!

I don't plan on arguing with you. Usually I try to logically speak with those I disagree with. You are an ignoramus incapable of logical thought. All Americans above the age of 18 without criminal records deserve the RIGHT to vote. Even a brainless bozo like yourself is entitled to your vote...

  • 89 votes
#1.20 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST
Comment author avatarZMan2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I'm curious to know why this is news for any purpose other than "rubbing it in." We spend two years watching various campaigns go at each other. Then, when one guy gets elected, the other side spends four years trying to tear the winner down.

Now, we're going to spend the days and weeks after the election "spitting" at the loser, all the while telling everyone that Obama is "uniting" us?

This isn't unification. This is rather ungracious chortling, and crowing that only serves to further divide the country, and make Obama's political foes moredetermined to impede his agenda.

When I was a Democrat, I didn't like it when the right wing did this very same thing to me, after Al Gore was turned away by judicial activists on our Supreme Court . I didn't like it when the conservatives cackled-on after Kerry's loss in '04' either.

Now, you are doing the very same thing. Only, you're doing it from the opposite end of the political spectrum.

I would be very cautious with my tone, if I were a heavy duty Obama supporter right at the moment. Sure, celebrate your victory. Enjoy the moment.

But, do it graciously. Because, you just never know what might happen in your boy's second term. Remember Nixon, remember Clinton.

They too won big at reelection time, and then found themselves fighting just to keep the Presidency less than two years later.

Besides that fact, why in the world you want to behave in the exact same fashion as those whom you oppose politically did when your side lost? I thought Obama and his disciples were all about inclusiveness, hope, change, and all those sorts of things?

At the end of the day, and in the final analysis....the Obama-CRATS are no better than the Bush-LICANS.....and THAT is why I no longer belong to an organized political party.

They are all the same, and offer NOTHING except competition to each other, and divisiveness for our country.

  • 29 votes
#1.22 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:33 PM EST

Americanthrunthru,

Romney had Fox, Obama has MSNBC. Your station has more viewers, I'd say you have the "conservative" media stronger than "liberal" media. And by the way, your really in a position to "shut this place down" we won you lost grow up. Wait another year so we can bs about the 2014 midterm election.

We will miss you on Friday! You really are a source of entertainment as well as pity.

  • 54 votes
#1.23 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST

F6Zman - your Mama must surely be proud of you, after all, you want to take away her right to vote? Ok for her to give birth to you, wash your silly behind, feed and cloth you but she is not good enough to vote? You silly, silly person, and what on earth makes you think you are better than the folks you listed? Got news for you, even if you are a member of the 1% (which I really doubt), when they close the casket or urn - you don't get to take one dime with you.

You are just angry because the majority of the voters in this great nation and I did not buy what robme was selling!

  • 83 votes
#1.24 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST

I never thought that I would ever say this, but I am so pleased with what the Tea Party has done... They brought down Reagan's Republican machine that has run over the middle class for decades...

Thank you Tea Party! Oh, and thank you Fox News... When you go too far to the right, your sure to fall off the stage...

  • 128 votes
#1.25 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST

zMan: Your words are quite inspiring, thank you! If they reflect the sentiment of your fellow conservatives, like F6, then I am truly optimistic about the future! HILLARY 2016!!!

  • 65 votes
#1.26 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:42 PM EST

Lets take Women's, Latino's, Black's, Gay's and Asian's Right to Vote away, Only white Males Should be Able to Vote!

Wow, the 1850s called and want F6Zman back.

I wonder if F6Z also suggests that this block of citizens would at the same time not have to pay income taxes? Or that all white males, including rich ones like Romney who pay little or nothing, would?

  • 53 votes
#1.27 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST

ZMan our canidate is not Nixon nor Clinton. Our guy was timid and cautious for his first term. Now that campaigning is over I really believe this guy will make changes. For one tax reform. Raising taxes to Clinton era for top two brackets, raising long term capital gains taxes from 15% to 20% and qualified dividends to become ordinary income. Obama, make the fat cats pay for their campaign of hate and fear. They do not have hearts, instead they have transplanted their Swiss bank accounts.

This article is not intend to gloat (atleast thats my view of it). Instead it is highlighting the end of a painfully hateful campaign and the dissolution that many of these men and women are realizing their guy wasn't even close. 8 of 9! c'mon that's a blowout

  • 49 votes
#1.28 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:43 PM EST

Terry-Ca, they actually fall off the edge of their Earth.

  • 30 votes
#1.29 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST

TO: F6Zman who wrote:

"... Lets take Women's, Latino's, Black's, Gay's and Asian's Right to Vote away, Only white Males Should be Able to Vote!..."

You'd have to go back to communist Russia (or the USSR) if you need to do that in order to be competitive in a national election.

  • 39 votes
#1.30 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:49 PM EST

Here's some free advice for all my Republican friends.

God ... you know ... that guy you just can't seem to get enough of? Yeah, he called. He said leave him the hell alone!

The problem with the Republican party lies solely on this concept. You've let your once proud, honorable party become completely highjacked by the Christian right. These Jesus freaks have taken all your small government, fiscally responsible stances (policies I happen to agree with) and threw them out the door in favor for a theocracy-based platform hell bent on stifling science and stagnating social progress. Here's a hint, if you think "secularism" is a bad word ... you just don't get it, and you probably never will. You also probably never will win an election again if you don't kick these whack jobs to the curb.

They've taken you back to the Dark Ages, and all you have to show in return is four more years of an Obama presidency. Oh, by the way, if Hillary runs in 2016 ... she will win in a landslide.

  • 96 votes
#1.31 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:51 PM EST

americanthrunthru

Good bye.

Bleh

  • 17 votes
#1.32 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:52 PM EST
Comment author avatarWake up now!Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

As a Conservative, I am happy that Obama won. Why? To destroy the Republican party as we know it. I get so ashamed when people call me a "Republican". In a way, liberals are more like conservatives than is realized. Here is a hint Christians.... STAY THE F-CK OUT OF MY LIFE! Romney, who is probably a very nice guy, also probably thinks that he knows better than I and that I should have his morals, but I don't. I want to drink a beer and smoke a joint in my own home and not worry about the police busting down my door.

Return fiscal conservatism! Thanks a lot for creating this mess BUSH! What a tool.

By the way, Obama is a naked socialist and things are about to get a lot worse....

  • 21 votes
#1.33 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST
Comment author avatarChestyPullerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

F6, assuming no voter fraud, it's because Republicans ran a RINO again, so people like me stayed home (for the top line of the ballot) and let the gaspain-faced loser lose.

Obama lost about 10 million voters from last time but added a few million new stupid college kids and high school grads, who turned 18-21 since the last election, and so ended up doing about 6 million worse than 2008.

6 million net abandoned Obama, but the cowardly Republicans ran a RINO, so they were still able to lose.

  • 4 votes
#1.34 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:05 PM EST

Yes watching this unfold is like arriving at an accident and watching the rescue squad. I understand why the credit cards were cancelled but all these folks will submit a last expense report and will have an opportunity to get reimbursed for legit campaign expenses. I suspect ALL campaigns have the same policy from the wonks in accounting.

I want to thank Nate Silver for allowing me to sleep well the day before the election. Fox should have hired him but unfortunately he had all the wrong numbers.

  • 19 votes
#1.35 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:06 PM EST

fz6/ Thank you for the first laugh on this post. What! you are not deliberately being funny? Then why am I still laughing at your remarks?

  • 17 votes
#1.36 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST

@Wakeupnow

My sentiments exactly.

All but that last part. A "Socialist"? Some Dems don't even think the guy is a liberal.

Why is he a socialist? Because he implemented a business-friendly, Bob Dole healthcare plan that the Republicans basically championed a while back?

Come on guy, that's just nonsense. Business has done quite well under Obama. And BIG business .... well, they've done even better. In some areas, better than under Bush.

I'm really starting to think people who call Obama a socialist don't have a clue what that term even means. Here's a hint, there ARE socialistic elements in our government. Here's another hint, mots of these policies predate Obama's presidency by 75 years.

  • 53 votes
#1.37 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST
Comment author avatarkailyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What happened is that Florida's votes have not been added into that yet. About 8-10 million people voted in Florida.

Also, you are all idiots. That's why Romney lost.

  • 40 votes
#1.38 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST

Making their staff pay for 'the last cab' is so typical of the republican mindset; they were probably afraid that some may have gone on a spending spree before anybody caught up, being the mistrustful robber barons that they are (isn't everyone like that? LOL). Their staff were probably lucky they weren't escorted to the street by security...LOL.

Feel fortunate; we got to witness the failure of their 'vision' (or more properly, mirage) in public; the sight of Karl Rove's mind melting on Fox and Rush's epic whine were the high points of this election cycle for me. The cannibalism that's going to ensue in the GOP after this will be a source of continuing amusement. Is this the death of the GOP?....

  • 30 votes
#1.39 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST

ChestyPuller,

Exactly, the Republicans have become ivory tower fools that have no idea what real America is dealing with. How can a party exist that is hated by both the opposite side and its own base? I never supported Romney, not in '08 or now... yet my state doesn't participate in the primaries so we get what is given to us...

  • 10 votes
#1.40 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST

F6, it's called turnout. Fewer people were excited about their choices this time around and so fewer people came out to vote. This is normal. 2008, with as much outrage as there was about Bush trashing the country and excitement for both the president and, yes, for Sen. McCain, was the exception.

Whatever his faults and lousy choice for VP, McCain is a passionate, colorful, interesting and, inarguably, patriotic man of integrity. Obama had a lot of excitement factor about him the first time around. That means more people will turn out to vote for either of them in greater numbers than normal. By contrast, this time around, we had the choice of re-electing a competent but hardly best-in-class incumbent and an insincere, lying stuffed shirt. Can you blame 10 million people for staying home?

  • 13 votes
#1.41 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST

CNN claims in 2008 it was 66 million to 58 million, but maybe their numbers are off. That could be the figures from that Election night, before later totals.

    #1.42 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST

    I'm going to do this post one more time and you will, of course, delete it again: Americans of all colors and persuasions think it is ridiculous to vote for a 1%er who believes in magic underwear. He DOES NOT represent the fabric of America; he represents the oligarchy and religious extremism. Get over it and stick to people with, at least, mainstream religious beliefs. It's at least partially the magic underwear and secret decoder glasses that killed him with the voters.

    • 23 votes
    #1.43 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST
    Comment author avatarformerGOPlapdogExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Future Career Ideas for Mitt Romney

    1)Cayman Island Secretary of Treasury

    2)Shoe check counter at any Muslim mosque (all those flip flops)

    3)Fifth personal assistant to "stay at home mom" Ann Romney

    4)Security advisor and/or public relations guru for next Olympic games

    5)Dog transporter for Humane Society

    6)Secretary of Labor-People's Republic of China

    7)IRS auditor

    8)Special advisor to Iranian terrorist organizations

    9)Mexican Minister of Tourism

    10)Campaign advisor to next GOP Presidential candidate

    • 37 votes
    #1.44 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST

    (Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment.)

    Poor babies.

    It's called BEING THE LOSER. Lesson learned.

    • 20 votes
    #1.45 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:16 PM EST

    chad-1841583

    Lawrence O'Donnel not only supports, but defends the presidents socialist agenda. Most liberals I talk to think that socialism is a good thing and wear it as a badge of honor.

    Health Care law, socialism

    GM takeover, socialism

    Increase in food stamps, socialism

    non-expiring unemployment benefits, socialism

    continuing the lie that is Social Security is solvent, socialism

    Just look at the federal budget, over 50% of it is on social programs. Don't repeat the lie that "we paid into the system". The fact of the mater is that the USA has $121 Trillion in unfunded liabilities. That means we have made promises that have not been paid for and cannot be paid for.

    • 6 votes
    #1.46 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST

    Chesty, are you saying that the republiCON party needs a "more conservative" candidate? Like that worked out in other elections around the country.

    • 15 votes
    #1.47 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST

    @blueinnm

    I disagree.

    I'm an atheist, but I have no problem with Romney being a Mormon. Do I think he has silly personal beliefs? Absolutely. As do all Americans who think they speak to invisible men in the sky. But Romney wasn't a theocrat, and I don't think he would have let his personal religion interfere with his broad-based politics.

    That's the definition of secularism (which a lot of people confuse with atheism). The two have NOTHING to do with one another. If you ask presidential scholars, technically, the most "religious" president we ever had was Clinton. No other President mentioned "God" more in their speeches than he did (it's something like 7 to 1 over Bush W).

    But what's the difference?

    Clinton kept his faith OUT of his policies and his politics. He realized religion was a private matter ... not a government one. Hence ... secularism.

    If Republicans don't figure this out, I'm afraid their party will simply fade into history. Nobody should want that to happen, regardless of what party you stand by. We need a collective front of diverse ideas to move the country forward. Right now, the Republicans are simply living in the Dark Ages (and it shows).

    • 35 votes
    #1.48 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST

    I see the healing has already begun.

    You can't bail out one half of a lifeboat.

    We need to work together now!

    • 9 votes
    #1.49 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:23 PM EST

    Most, like their boss, truly believed the campaign's now almost comically inaccurate models, and that a victory was well within their grasp

    They won 49% of the popular vote. I can't see how this was "comically inaccurate" by any stretch of the imagination.

    • 5 votes
    #1.50 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:24 PM EST

    What happened is this:

    YOU LOST.

    Get over it.

    • 18 votes
    #1.51 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:25 PM EST

    Because they lost by nearly 100 electoral votes.

    • 16 votes
    #1.52 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST

    You make sense until that last line. There you adopt the same pessimism we see and hear from the rest. Don't you realize this is what is ruining America? Not Barack Obama!

    Pure socialism doesn't work. And that term gets thrown around like a bloody sock. Just because you studied the genesis of political systems does not mean you will adapt them. If that were true I would believe in an amalgamation of 20 different systems. And that's the way I view Obama. People talk of mentors but one of the key mentors in my life graduated from Bob Jones University! And I hardly ended up a Fundamentalist Christian!

    It is always Healthcare people point to when they want to make this rather absurd argument about socialism. But every other civilized democracy and republic has nationalized healthcare. Are they all evil societies? Of course not. Although many Republicans seem to only love Israel and think the rest of the world are idiots (one of the real issues I have with recent GOP belief). That's simply a xenophobic position and benefits no one.

    I think it would be remarkable if rational men and women could put their partisan differences aside and work for the good of this nation. But pessimism as you have shown does not encourage that in the least.

    • 16 votes
    #1.53 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST

    F6Zman says, "Lets take Women's, Latino's, Black's, Gay's and Asian's Right to Vote away, Only white Males Should be Able to Vote!"

    All I can say, "too bad your mother did not know enough to swallow"!!

    • 23 votes
    #1.54 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:30 PM EST

    F6Zman

    Your comment regarding the American Flag is disgusting. And to reference the President of the United States as a Communist is disgraceful to the majority of Americans. Reglardless of your party politics or political beliefs, we are a great country. It is our patriotic love of our country that sparks debate of ideas and ideals, it is what our founding fathers expected us to do as a free nation. It is America where everyone gets a vote, an opinion, and the right of expression of ones beliefs. It is the sometimes loud and messy tenacious debate of Democracy that makes us a great nation. You've got little sense to make reference to a Nazi symbol in the same sentence as our American flag. However, my son's body came home in a military casket under his beloved American flag and the precious life he gave was in support of the country through true unselfish patriotism, something people like you will never understand, so uninformed parisites like you can have the freedom to say anyting they want, even as disgraceful as it may be.

    • 35 votes
    #1.55 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:38 PM EST
    Comment author avatarProud 2B LiberalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    The America that was a free, sovereign, united nation where the people (yes, white people, after all it was THEIR country) selected the government that worked on their bahalf is gone, but it was not by accident. The white Anglo-Saxon culture just wouldn't buy into the Marxist ideals the subversives were trying to push through the media and government, but the Marxists would not simply go away. They formulated plans for the takeover of America.

    The internationalist Marxists who infiltrated the Democrat party worked to change the demographics to more resemble the third world by pushing The Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1965. With decades of conditioning and social re-programming from the media, films, television and college indoctrination, this effort would ensure that as the black and brown demographics grew from immigration and higher birthrates, the white vote would shrink continuously until the day when whites were a voting minority.

    That day is today. It is considered a victory by the Marxists. After all, their plan worked. And while it is true that things have improved for black and brown people in America, is America actually better because of it? Is America more stable? More secure? More sustainable? More prosperous? Less violent? Less crime ridden? The answer is a resounding NO.

    Multicultural America is one that is in steady and steep decline morally, intellectually and economically. Crime, overpopulation, higher taxes, less freedom and more government intervention into personal lives is here to stay. America will not survive. Without the despised "white" population, their genetics and their partucular characteristics that built this country in the first place, America will take on the characteristics of the populations making up her new demographics and hence, will resemble the many countries that these people emigrated from in the first place.

    America will decline and collapse, and the Chinese will rule the world.

    • 4 votes
    #1.56 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:43 PM EST
    Comment author avatar23 skidooExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Julie,

    Great comment...

    I am curious why you need to put w/Cystic Fibrosis after your name?

    I mean I could use Cj w/a big dick, but I choose not to hold myself out as anything different than a human with frailties as everyone else.

    • 4 votes
    #1.57 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

    Romney has no plans to disappear, but he will. The Republican establishment will see to that after they pick his corpse to the bone. And to all you fatcats: There are no refunds.

    • 13 votes
    #1.58 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

    ZMan

    10 million Democrats did not show to vote, and there is no discussion as to why so far.

    3,000,000 Republicans did not vote. The Umpteenth person has come forward to tell the Republicans that without apeasing them, the Republicans cannot win. The group has been identified as the Ron Paul faction. So much for the Mantra that the Republican party is controlled buy the tea party.

    • 5 votes
    #1.59 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

    On the good news front....

    It's reported that now that the campaign is over, Karl Rove has been invited to go hunting with Dick Cheney. And all contributors over the $200,000 amount will receive a free Mitt Romney "Binders full of Women" photo gallery.

    • 24 votes
    #1.60 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:48 PM EST

    3score&4, I use that because I was often on many blogs supporting the Affordable Care Act. (Should you require more details...www.cff.org) I run into people all the time who have no clue what Cystic Fibrosis is and millions more who never heard of Kartagener's Syndrome which is far more rare than CF. Guess what? I am the only documented person in the entire world to have both. Does it make me special, in your world the answer would be "no", but in the medical community I am something of a great mystery and extremely rare. Go ask anyone in the medical community if they ever met someone with Kartagener's, then ask them if they ever met someone with both KS and CF.

    I did not realize this post would become something about my screen name. Perhaps we should move this to another forum?

    • 7 votes
    #1.61 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:52 PM EST

    So Chesty,

    You are proud of yourself? I guarrentee you, the republican leadership will never learn that lesson that you think you are going to teach them. What you are teaching them is that they can count on you to be a problem so their time is better spend chasing some other group.

    How about if you start thinking of everyone else instead your way or the highway?

    • 4 votes
    #1.62 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST

    Wake up now!/1.33 - I was about to "like" your comment until I read the very last sentence. Push that envelope. What it is, Chad-1841583/1.37.

      #1.63 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:02 PM EST

      ZMAN...well written. This article had no meaning other that to spike the football. Such class.

      • 3 votes
      #1.64 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:10 PM EST

      I liked "everything" about Romney except the fact that he is Mormon. Religion is a powerful thing and just can't trust someone will make a good decision for ALL people of the USA. Next time Republicans, please give us a CANDIDATE!!!!

      • 1 vote
      #1.65 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:13 PM EST

      LorraineH, I'm sorry for your loss and I can honestly say I know how you feel. I lost my grandson in Iraq. The Rethuglicans don't mind starting wars as long as it's not their kids doing the fighting. What makes me the angriest is it was a war based on a lie. All wars are useless, but Iraq was fought because of Bush and Cheney's egos.

      • 20 votes
      #1.66 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:21 PM EST

      Donors who provided more than $300 million to American Crossroads and Crossroads GOP, the groups associated with strategist Karl Rove, expressed their displeasure with the fruits of their donations after the elections.

      Real estate mogul Donald Trump clearly wasn't too impressed with Rove's performance himself. "Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money," the billionaire wrote on Twitter.

      Wolves at the door…..LOL

      Crossroads, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other GOP-leaning groups spent at least $87 million targeting Democrats Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Bill Nelson (Fla.), Joe Donnelly (Indiana), Tim Kaine (Virginia), Jon Tester (Montana) and Tammy Baldwin (Wisconsin), according to FEC data; all emerged victorious on Tuesday

      Sheldon Adelson, the Las Vegas casino magnate who gave Mitt Romney's super PAC $20 million, also backed a heap of Republican candidates who lost last night.

      Adelson, Jewish himself, I guess he thought, let me back Romney, that way he and Netanyahu can invade and destroy Iran. LOL!!

      All of these so-called businessman blew hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars, thinking Romney was going to be their savior, and save them some tax dollars......

      Man, this could not have happened to a better group of GREEDY individuals!!!

      I'm loving it!!!!! I mean they are taking each other apart!!!! LOL!!!!

      • 18 votes
      #1.67 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST

      Well said LorraineH! Integrity counts for so little - only that last half inch of your life. With that in mind, I had to stick to what I believed was right & I voted for Ron Paul. Then again, I'm a Cubs fan - win, lose or draw. In my state (Montana), flatland republicans spent 4 mil to get denny rehberg into the senate only to have it spent on a few keggers for the 1%. Fiscal responsibility - gotta love it. BTW, the mainstream media says we're a red state, but both our senatewhores are democrat & so is the guv.

      • 1 vote
      #1.68 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:29 PM EST

      while it is true that things have improved for black and brown people in America, is America actually better because of it?

      What is disgracefully sad, is that in the 21st century, we are even still having this discussion.

      Look, I'm a patriot. I love my country ... but I also understand that our priorities are completely out of whack.

      Our nation states ... borders ... country outlines .... they ARE ILLUSIONS. Floating pieces of Earth, Mantle, and crust.

      The only thing that matters is how we treat one another and that we realize we are all in this together. We should be worried about a shared, human experience that transcends our boarders. We should be spending the bulk of our monies on science, research, development ... the betterment of mankind. We should be looking to the stars, not at the "Heavens", but past them.

      Black, White, Gay, Straight, Democrat, Republican ... my god, what a @!$%#ing bore.

      We were meant for more than this.

      • 10 votes
      #1.69 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:32 PM EST

      I wonder if the "rosy picture" of Romney's chances was just a way to convince big donors to give to PACs.

      The mathematical models that pointed to a strong Obama victory were ridiculed by the right, yet those models are the ones that turned our to be correct.

      For me, the Romney campaign was a very cynical one. You cannot rely on just the old white male vote; you cannot so blatantly lie about facts; you cannot hide the details of your policies from the electorate.

      • 11 votes
      #1.70 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST

      50/50 split popular vote... Barack won a coin toss.

      There is no mandate.

      • 1 vote
      #1.71 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST

      @Julie...That's hysterical..LMAO....

        #1.72 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST

        The United States of America, From 1776 - Nov. 6 2012. Our First Communist Gets a Second Term.

        Another bubble person in tea bag land.

        • 14 votes
        #1.73 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:46 PM EST

        F6Zman is the reason the republicans will continue to lose.

        • 15 votes
        #1.74 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:50 PM EST

        F6Zman: I'm guessing a big chunk of that is the FL vote. I don't know that any of those votes are counted in the national total.

        • 4 votes
        #1.75 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:51 PM EST

        Quote.......Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment........EndQuote

        That is amazing. Could those folks not know Romney is a (very successful) snake-oil salesman?

        Quote.....Aides to Romney said they were optimistic he would be receptive to a sincere offer from the president to work together......EndQuote

        Well, perhaps President Obama could employ Romney at the IRS. You know, in the same way hackers are employed by business to help thwart other hackers.

        • 7 votes
        #1.76 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:56 PM EST

        I love the smell of teabagger whine in the morning. It smells like victory.

        • 14 votes
        #1.77 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:57 PM EST

        The man is just effen creepy if you ask me. I would never vote for someone that claims to be religious and then lies consistently throughout a campaign. The right people won this election imo.

        OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

        • 11 votes
        #1.78 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:58 PM EST

        What the Hell Happened?

        The Latino vote.

        The Obama is giving them citizenship so he let them vote early.

        Just what this country needs is more uneducated people who don't speak English getting what is left of America's resources.

        And now it looks like Mitt is just another unemployed person under Obama's administration.

        • 2 votes
        #1.79 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST

        In addition to lower turnout, remember, there are still millons of western votes to be counted.. or at least reported. These won't change anything nationally, but FYI not all of our local elections are decided yet, as 3.5 million California absentee and vote-by-mail ballots have yet to be reported by the county registrars yet, even if most of them are now reflected in the totals (posted post-Tuesday). Presumably, your 2008 numbers reflect 100% of votes being counted, which usually happens by the week after the general election.

          #1.80 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:01 PM EST

          Dont carry it all,

          Facts didn't seem to matter much in Obamaland either, did they ! Wait, you are going to be amazed at the transparency and total distortions of facts in the next four years.

          • 1 vote
          #1.81 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:08 PM EST

          F6Zman Post #1

          The dropoff in vote total were the jobs that Romney outsourced to China.

          • 11 votes
          #1.82 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:16 PM EST

          AMY, karl rove is a character out of a comic book with that little pinched face and whatever else; He is Going Over THE Hottest Fire AnyWay...AlaskaGirl and Ladies, ignore f6zman, he is whacked out of his mind and is a mosiginist.....he dislikes Women.....

          The reason MittTaxPittanceRommel & Lyin'Ryan Lost? They Arrogantly Touted they represent the 1-10% and Corporate EVIL Rich...No Medicare, No Social Security More Profitable Wars. These republicanCrimeCartel @$$H0LE$ were out of touch with what America Needs... GoBama!!2012 YEAHH!!

          • 5 votes
          #1.83 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST

          I voted social issues. A radio show host in my city of residence said yesterday that he would NEVER vote republican until they abandon their social platform and the attitude that comes with it. I couldn't agree more!

          • 7 votes
          #1.84 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:47 PM EST

          Billionaires and multi-millionaires gave huge chunks of money gambling that he would win and give them the tax breaks that would allow them to pay near 0% in income taxes. And, I mean near 0%, Romney pays 14% now, had his tax breaks passed, he would have been paying .98% (POINT 98 PERCENT - LESS THAN 1 PERCENT). They lost. What I do not understand are the people who supported Romney who were not billionaires and multi-millionaires. You have to realize if these wealthy are no longer paying taxes, then that money has to come from somewhere else... oh ya, the middle class can pay for it all.

          • 1 vote
          #1.85 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:18 PM EST

          blueinnm

          Americans of all colors and persuasions think it is ridiculous to vote for a 1%er who believes in magic underwear. He DOES NOT represent the fabric of America; he represents the oligarchy and religious extremism. Get over it and stick to people with, at least, mainstream religious beliefs. It's at least partially the magic underwear and secret decoder glasses that killed him with the voters.

          I could care less about Romney's religion, as long as he keeps it out of politics. I think most Americans felt the same way. The reason I didn't vote for him was that I didn't believe a word he said. I agree that he doesn't represent the fabric of America, but it isn't because of his religion. I don't believe he has any real morals (contrary to his religion). I don't believe he has compassion for others. I voted my conscience and that was Obama.

          Chad - you had the best remark I've read on the vine. We are all human. That is something I've said repeatedly and I can't believe anyone who would deny another human a better life has the gall to call themselves Christians, Mormans or whatever religion they claim to follow. We really are one world, one humanity. Its sad that people feel that they are more important because they were born with the right color skin, in the right country or to the right family.

          • 5 votes
          #1.86 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:24 PM EST

          No one has counted Florida yet. Their reputation for jiggery-pokery has finally made them irrelevant, and we should thank that Guy Upstairs for THAT. Our RWNJ leaning SCOTUS would have sold the country down the river for some slush and hush, just as they did with Citizens United.

          • 4 votes
          #1.87 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:34 PM EST

          Seems strange not seeing the usual trolls on here. I guess those checks stopped coming.

          • 8 votes
          #1.88 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:36 PM EST

          People ! People ! People ! Let's be civil about our victory.

          Keep in mind: Winning isn't everything.

          Winning, gloating and rubbing their face in it is everything!

          Congratulations O & Joe!

          The best men won!

          • 7 votes
          #1.89 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:40 PM EST

          weusall: Well said. As a gay American, I'm concerned that my representatives are going to ensure I have the rights and priviledges enjoyed by straight Americans. I'm also concerned that immigrants legally in the country also enjoy the rights and priviledges they are entitled to. One look at the Republican platform approved at the RNC was enough to know I could never vote for any people that supported the platform as it stood. BTW, it was an important moment when actual American voters approved same-sex marriage in ME and MD, and hopefully it did pass in WA, and the people of MN said "enough" and voted down the constitutional amendment to legislate marriage as only between a man and a woman. This is important and until the GOP realizes that LGBT people, Immigrants, Blacks, Asians, and non-Christians (aethists, Moslems, Buddists, etc.) are Americans too and that a party of fat old white men and women does not represent 21st century American, then the GOP has become irrelevant and will continue to lose local and national elections. It's time for change...within the GOP.

          • 3 votes
          #1.90 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:50 PM EST

          OMG! I'm still up in the air with this win! Romneyland? HAHAHAHA, like Disneyland only there's no fun to be had!. I wasn't all that surprised by the pubes miscount due to the fact that, after the remarks made by Mourdock and Akin, no self-respecting woman would give them their vote. Black and hispanic voters were already in the democrats column, so it was simply a matter of who was left. The fact that the pubes did not see this coming was, for me, both telling and a source of great glee! They are so insular that apparently they can no longer deduce that they have practically placed their party in a position from whence there is no way out other than moving away from their right wing nutjob position. A party full of old, mostly caucasian people sprinkled with a large smattering of bigots and religious zealots isn't a political party! It's a Klan recruitment meeting! How stupid can they be? THAT is a rhetorical question! For them to NOT have seen this outcome is just mind blowing. Pubes simply have to decide to come into the 21st century or fold up their sheets and call it a day. Some of them realize this but too many think that they can carry on as usual. Mitch McConnell is one of the latter. His response to the win was simply amazing. They say there is no fool like an old fool and apparently Mitch is their master and commander. Hopefully the citizens of Kentucky will rid themselves of this person whose beliefs are from a time that has long passed. Orrin Hatch as well. We are DONE with pube BS!!!!!! Compromise is what is needed. The pubes need us but we do not need them as was shown on Tuesday. Hell, we even got the job done without Floriduh (STILL counting votes, btw. Pretty indicative of the education to be found in these parts) which is VERY COOL! So yes, compromise is needed but the onus is on their side. Because we the people are driving the bus. Either get on or get the hell out of the way lest you find yourself run over. You know, like Robme did on Tuesday. Wonder what Grover Norquist will have the pubes sign next? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey, does anyone know if Ted Nugent is still alive LOL!

          • 9 votes
          #1.91 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:53 PM EST

          f6zman ---- you would have fit in just fine 300 years ago. with your attitude i bet you never were very successful with the women. probably the most success you ever had was with your hand.

          • 3 votes
          #1.92 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:00 PM EST

          Lets take Women's, Latino's, Black's, Gay's and Asian's Right to Vote away, Only white Males Should be Able to Vote!

          I know, since I hate Liberalism that Makes me a "'Republican". Haven't you people heard of THIRD PARTIES?! I do not like the Two Party System.

          No F6 that makes you a Fascist!

          • 7 votes
          #1.93 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:02 PM EST

          LOKAY5 - I agree that gloating is not very civil.

          However, seeing the loss hit those who dumped millions is....well....SWEEEEET.

          • 8 votes
          #1.94 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:21 PM EST

          vermont girl ---- i especially liked how much adelson dumped in to back such a long line of losers and hosers. it warms the cockles of my heart. too bad that money couldn't have been spent on education or medical research or other worthy causes instead of wasted on such piss ants.

          • 4 votes
          #1.95 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:33 PM EST

          @Wake Up Now

          Socialism is helping others in need. What is so wrong with that?! Only the selfish and self-absorbed would think that helping people in need is bad.

          • 6 votes
          #1.96 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:35 PM EST

          Something that can show you what it would have been like for the average American citizen if Romney had won. After all those volunteer Republican aides finished cleaning things up in the Romney command center, they grabbed cabs to head to their hotels only to find that their campaign credit cards were cancelled and their hotel rooms no longer paid for - thanks for your assistance, now get the F out of here you moochers!

          • 2 votes
          #1.97 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:57 PM EST

          @mrpotatohead - nope, that money was spent in the hopes that the most most most wealthy in America could pay almost no taxes - they are that that that greedy!

          • 3 votes
          #1.98 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:00 PM EST

          Reality ... you know, that harsh mistress that will slap sense into you whether you like it or not? It came calling on Mitt and his fellow Republicans Tuesday night. You folks better recognize it or it'll be back ... and the lesson won't be any less severe next time either.

          • 1 vote
          #1.99 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:33 PM EST

          AlaskaGirl: Why do you have the audacity to hope that others will delete the posts of those whose comments you do not like? Why do you continually call for their deletion? That is the epitome of censure and denial of free speech. Granted, those whose comments you want deleted seem to be pretty ignorant, if not outright dumb, but try to remember that this not yet a dictatorial society. It is still America. And in America, at least for the time being, we still have the right to express ourselves and be tolerant of those with whom we disagree.

          • 2 votes
          #1.100 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:36 PM EST

          To answer the question, where are the 10 million votes? You do realize that there are still 30% of the vote still out in California, 25% in Oregon and 45% in Washington state. Oregon and Washington have mail in ballots. I make it to be about 6 million plus ballots still out there from those states (Blue States) alone.

          • 1 vote
          #1.101 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:42 PM EST

          DB - Well, well, well and my, my, my. Your previous posts with all of your pseudo intellectual theories about why President Obama was going to fail and how you somehow had the inside story about how all this works and how all the polls were wrong has proven to have had a pretty sever case of erectile dysfunction. What is your theory now about how all this happened...the Black Panthers, media bias?

          • 1 vote
          #1.102 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:43 PM EST

          "So, There should be about 10 Million More votes, What the Hell Happened?"

          What happened was the GOP decided they didn't want those Ron Paul voters despite Ron Paul having the clear mandate. So, they broke laws keeping him out as candidate because they would rather have a globalist Israel Firster scumbag like Romney. For that, you get Obama. Thought you folks would have learned after '08.

          • 1 vote
          #1.103 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 7:40 PM EST

          kimH-1330542 said:

          "DB - Well, well, well and my, my, my. Your previous posts with all of your pseudo intellectual theories about why President Obama was going to fail and how you somehow had the inside story about how all this works and how all the polls were wrong has proven to have had a pretty sever case of erectile dysfunction. What is your theory now about how all this happened...the Black Panthers, media bias?"

          Chemtrails ?

          HAARP ?

          Nibiru ?

            #1.104 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:00 AM EST

            f6z ... you and your stupid comment make the defeat even better ... am i gloating? ... damn right ! ... and bitter and delusional people such as yourself just make our win that much more enjoyable .......

            OBAMA WON CUZ "HE IS THE MAN !" ..... MITT LOST CUZ HE'S MITT !!!

            ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY

            ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY

            ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY ENJOY

            • 3 votes
            #1.105 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:48 AM EST

            Adios Willard. It was NOT nice to know you. All your lies and flip flops caught up with you. Even your donors are sick of you and your campaign lies. Going to pay them back? I thought not. Do us all a favor and just disappear off into the sunset.

            LIAR.

            • 2 votes
            #1.106 - Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:09 AM EST
            Key FactorDeleted
            Reply

            "Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment."

            My heart bleeds for the loss of their "investment".

            Would like to think they've leared a lesson, but probably not.

            "a few aides said they expect it to be January before they're reemployed"

            Now I'm about to pass out from the loss of blood. Try getting a real job, like the rest of us. Or better yet, read a copy of their former boos's book, "Hey, I Know WHat It's Like - I'm Unemployed, Too!

            • 112 votes
            #2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST

            John Sununu, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, Adelson, Koch Brothers, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Clint Eastwood - there's a new generation out there and they're voting.

            It's a new nation. And a new world.

            • 123 votes
            #2.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST

            "boss's book", not "boos's". I should have just gone with "Romney's".

            • 29 votes
            #2.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:37 PM EST

            Great snapshot of headlines around the world when announcement of President Obama's re-election victory was announced. Great photos of President Obama and his family as well, returning to DC from Chicago.

            http://theobamadiary.com/

            • 66 votes
            #2.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:40 PM EST

            Great photos, Pat! I like the India Daily News and Analysis one the best - "Obama Wins - Planet Relieved". That and if you scroll down and click on the thing at the bottom to load more, the one from The Daily Mail from 2004 was a riot!

            • 56 votes
            #2.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:50 PM EST

            JoAnne, all is good today. I also saw a diary over @ DailyKos that said there are still uncalled races in the House and the Democrats are winnning.

            I too loved the photos. Just loved them.

            Winning a presidental campaign in 2012 - I look at the photos of President Obama, Michelle Obama, VP Biden, Bill Clinton, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, Stef Cutter, Robt Gibbs and I look at their faces and it's like they're thinking - ah well, all in a day's work.

            Everbody looks exhausted.

            President Obama should invite them all, with their families - to the White House for Thanksgiving.

            • 47 votes
            #2.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST

            JoAnne in PA

            "boss's book", not "boos's".

            Freudian slip? Cause I like it!

            • 22 votes
            #2.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:08 PM EST

            Those photos of the international reaction to the President's reelection were really special.

            I do feel bad for the people who have lost their jobs on the campaign---no doubt they thought they would be hired for the transition.

            It does surprise me that they really thought they were going to win. Didn't they ever check out Nate Silver?

            • 64 votes
            #2.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:09 PM EST

            It was so typical of Romney- cancel the credit cards, fire the employees, cancel the health insurance, loot the pension fund. By the way its a good time to remind people they can click on the exclamation point and find a menu to ignore that user; so you don't have to see the ravings of nuts like f6z. Yes, there will be some hapless fools who had been watching fox and expected a Romney landslide. To you folks we say welcome to the world of reality.

            • 93 votes
            #2.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:16 PM EST

            B White - Ann said Mitt was cheap. Leno asked if she meant frugal and she said, No, Cheap! I guess she was right. All "those people" gave him their time and he had nothing for them!

            • 67 votes
            #2.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:24 PM EST

            What this election also brought an end to was Jim Crow, which reared its ugly head with the appearance birth certificate BS, college grades and voter suppression.

            Well, we have news for you people:

            Diversity is about to take over. Forever.

            Say goodnite Jim Crow.

            Good nite.

            • 80 votes
            #2.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:25 PM EST

            B White, my ignore list is already very long. It is past time to take a stand against the extreme right wing, or any other extremists, and this is at least the stand that we can take, right here right now. That's just my opinion, but I made a stand yesterday and I declared that I think we need to rid this site of the hatred, bigotry, and racist comments that have been rampant on here. I love a thought provoking discussion on politics and the issues in this country, but I want to see substantive comments, not someone who is so filled with hatred. Anyway, that's my take on it.

            • 67 votes
            #2.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:30 PM EST

            And putting a person on ignore then deprives all of us other posters of being able to enjoy the wonderful rebuttals, even those that break the Code rules with name calling, etc.

            I agree AG. I want to see real substantive comments, comments that have intelligent thought and value to them and contribute to the thread of the story, not something that is totally non-germain like our Congress members are so famous for doing.

            • 17 votes
            #2.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST
            Comment author avatarClint8UExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Obama needs a real job ... something he's never had

            • 10 votes
            #2.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:18 PM EST

            Pat,

            Well, we have news for you people. Didn't Ann Romney say something similar?

            AlaskaGirl,

            I declared that I think we need to rid this site of the hatred, bigotry, and racist comments that have been rampant on here.

            Would that mean anyone in general, or are you singling out a group? Besides, I think FR moderators are responsible for that job.

            • 5 votes
            #2.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:19 PM EST

            Think of all that money spent on commercials. In Wisconsin, that got pumped back into our economy. Too bad for the states that were too stupid not to realize that being considered a battleground state was a huge bonus. We got pretty good at tuning all that out, and some of us voted early so we could just mute the TV whenever one came on.

            To Karl Rove: We were going blue the whole time anyway....but thanks for the extra cash...LOL (and they call us cheeseheads..)

            • 56 votes
            #2.15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:21 PM EST

            (Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment.)

            Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers should feel patriotic for their part of contributing to the Wrongme Economic Stimulus Package. A fool and his money are soon parted.

            • 52 votes
            #2.16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:27 PM EST
            Comment author avatarTravis from Soviet Occupied New EnglandExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Diversity is about to take over. Forever.

            And by "diversity" you mean a world where everyone thinks the same, earns the same, lives the same, loves the same, and values the same things as everyone else...

            Horray for diversity!!!

            • 11 votes
            #2.17 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST

            The Koch Brothers must be having a conniption fit around about now considering the millions they have sunk into the Romney campaign which has just now gone down the drain along with all their money. My heart just bleeds for them... NOT!!!

            • 58 votes
            #2.18 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST
            Comment author avatarProud 2B LiberalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            The America that was a free, sovereign, united nation where the people (yes, white people, after all it was THEIR country) selected the government that worked on their bahalf is gone, but it was not by accident. The white Anglo-Saxon culture just wouldn't buy into the Marxist ideals the subversives were trying to push through the media and government, but the Marxists would not simply go away. They formulated plans for the takeover of America.

            The internationalist Marxists who infiltrated the Democrat party worked to change the demographics to more resemble the third world by pushing The Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1965. With decades of conditioning and social re-programming from the media, films, television and college indoctrination, this effort would ensure that as the black and brown demographics grew from immigration and higher birthrates, the white vote would shrink continuously until the day when whites were a voting minority.

            That day is today. It is considered a victory by the Marxists. After all, their plan worked. And while it is true that things have improved for black and brown people in America, is America actually better because of it? Is America more stable? More secure? More sustainable? More prosperous? Less violent? Less crime ridden? The answer is a resounding NO.

            Multicultural America is one that is in steady and steep decline morally, intellectually and economically. Crime, overpopulation, higher taxes, less freedom and more government intervention into personal lives is here to stay. America will not survive. Without the despised "white" population, their genetics and their partucular characteristics that built this country in the first place, America will take on the characteristics of the populations making up her new demographics and hence, will resemble the many countries that these people emigrated from in the first place.

            America will decline and collapse, and the Chinese will rule the world.

            • 5 votes
            #2.19 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

            I'm just wondering. For all the wealthy individuals who donated to Obama, is he now going to find a way to repay them as well?

            • 4 votes
            #2.20 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:25 PM EST

            Proud 2B Liberal,

            You are right that the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 has changed the demographics of the United States, but you are wrong that it has anything to do with Marxism. It was passed overwhelmingly by the House of Representatives (326 to 69 or 82.5%), and was mainly opposed by Southern legislators, and if you remember, the South at that time was still mostly dominated by the Democratic Party. And it need not mean the end of America just because we have a more pluralistic population now. Switzerland has a pluralistic population even with multiple languages spoken there (German, French, Italian, and Rheto-Rumansh), and Switzerland has been doing just fine. The secret lies in people learning how to get along with those who differ from them, and not in their all being the same.

            • 36 votes
            #2.21 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:45 PM EST

            Let's put this socialist Obama bull@!$%# to rest, OK. In case you were not aware, there IS a socialist party. If Obama was one, he would have run as a socialist. In my opinion he is not far enough left.

            • 46 votes
            #2.22 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:26 PM EST

            I'm just saying,

            "If Obama was one, he would have run as a socialist. In my opinion he is not far enough left."

            I agree, and, by the way, I really like your avatar!

            • 26 votes
            #2.23 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:32 PM EST
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            TessEsq :

            I'm relieved to see he learned nothing from the election. If the rest of them didn't learn, we will just exterminate the remainder in 2014 and 2016 and ...

            I thought that the Obamaites were all forgiving, loving and inclusive?

            You called for the censorship of the F6Zman because of his loony speech, where is the self censorship on the veiled threats of murder?

            • 3 votes
            #2.24 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:12 PM EST

            Large republican donors angry over the loss of their investment. Any that wish to deny that Romney's economic plan wasn't sold to the highest bidder should note that line. Romney promised all Americans a 20% tax cut that would amount to probably an average few thousand for the middle class while giving some of the countries richest hundreds of millions in cuts. They in turn spent hundreds of millions to get him elected. Obama promised nothing for the middle class and higher taxes for wealthy donors and still raised more money and had many thousands paying 50K a plate for fund raisers. I guess democrats just can't be bought.

            • 27 votes
            #2.25 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:28 PM EST

            No more filbert: You're mistaking Obama for a republican. Democrats run on a platform of what's best for the country not what's best for themselves. You think the suggested Buffet rule that would require every super wealthy person to pay a minimum 30% rate would somehow help them pay less? Hard for a republican to even grasp the concept of willingly paying more in taxes isn't it?

            • 27 votes
            #2.26 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:31 PM EST

            Wow, Travis - that's a really, really shallow interpretation of diversity. Come on to New England, Travis, I'll show you what Pat means.

            • 7 votes
            #2.27 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:02 PM EST

            Hard for them? A lot of them have given up their citizenship in order to not pay their fair share of taxes. Now if only Donald Trump would join them! And Dick (too mean to die) Cheney!

            • 30 votes
            #2.28 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:07 PM EST

            All "those people" gave him their time and he had nothing for them!

            Hitler blamed the German people for his downfall too. Just sayin'

            • 14 votes
            #2.29 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:44 PM EST

            Must have been Sheldon that cancelled the credit cards

            • 11 votes
            #2.30 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:52 PM EST

            I voted for President Obama because I agreed with 9 out of 10 issues on his platform and his consistency with those issues, however, that being said, the other issue I think Mr Romney could be of benefit to President Obama is on economics. If the President is sincerely extending an olive branch and Mr Romney could (smartly) see beyond this election and work with the Obama administration then I think this country could be on its way to being what everyone hopes and dreams it could be, at least this Independent voter thinks so.

            • 13 votes
            #2.31 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:53 PM EST

            Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.
            "Fiscally conservative," sighed one aide the next day.

            Fantasy land is over for a few years FCINO's... smile :-)

            aka - cheapskates

            • 11 votes
            #2.32 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:13 PM EST

            The carnival is just regrouping in the House of representatives, Unfortunately the GOP crime family still has obstructive power to control the agenda

            • 21 votes
            #2.33 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:13 PM EST

            ClintU - "Obama needs a real job ... something he's never had"

            Brilliant comment - yeah that being a law professor thing doesn't count. Not if you were once a community organizer. Something that dumb prompted me to request not to see your comments in the future. Disagreeing is fine. Stupid I don't have time for.

            • 21 votes
            #2.34 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST

            Just another dumb ass article by MSNBC. I doubt it really came down the way the lame stream media is reporting it.

            • 1 vote
            #2.35 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:00 PM EST

            Travis from Soviet Occupied New England, we mean diversity where we do not have to bear the brunt of Jim Crow rhetoric, or idiots spouting off a smaller government, but by the way we want the government to control the bodies and choices of today's women, no more Taliban "legitimate rape" nonsense or trickle down voodoo economics. Where people of every color, ethnic group, sexual preference and faith or no faith are treated as equals instead of the Evangelicals declaring how the world should be made in the imaginations of their faulty minds.

            No more rhetoric of "everyone can be a millionaire" or other nonsense. We want to live our middle class lives and put our children through college without having to pay the banksters a profit for the right to a higher education instead of trying to dole it out like the Republicans tried to mandate by removing Pell Grants. I know this does not make much sense to a Republican since most don't think of these things or at all but to open minded people of this country it does and it is the world we want to live in. If you don't like it I bet Russia or another country that loves wars to have wars might have room for you.

            • 16 votes
            #2.36 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST

            Ya, it's the "lame" stream media. We should all listen to fox "news" because they were dead on with their predictions for the election. Oh ya, and they're fair and balanced. By the way. if MSNBC is so terrible, why are you here?

            • 20 votes
            #2.37 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST

            Without the despised "white" population, their genetics and their partucular characteristics that built this country in the first place, America will take on the characteristics of the populations making up her new demographics and hence, will resemble the many countries that these people emigrated from in the first place

            You write this blatantly racist B.S. and have the nerve to call yourself a liberal? You are no liberal.

            You owe an apology to the descendants of the native peoples whose land was stolen from them. You owe an apology to every American who is descended from the African slaves who were brought here in chains to work that stolen land. That free land and free labor are what made this country an economic powerhouse in the first place.

            While you are at it, apologize to the descendants of the Chinese railroad workers, the Mexicans whose land was taken, and the Japanese who were forced into internment camps.

            You think your white skin makes you better than others? You think only Americans are entitled to freedom and justice?

            Attitudes like yours are the cause of all world conflict.

            There is only one race: the human race.

            • 17 votes
            #2.38 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:03 PM EST

            Poor Mittens. Doesn't anyone feel bad for him?

            Me neither. I won't miss his disingenuous, counterfeit smile, that brainless, $#!+ eating grin, nor that smug demeanor. He has "arrogant" written all over him...

            • 20 votes
            #2.39 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:45 PM EST

            Ann is going to make them part of the family. F98kking LOL. "We have given you people all you will ever need of our family."

            Ann: prissy little fascista to go with the mighty mighty CEO scumbag tax cheat: ROMNEY 1040!

            I hope to xist Obama offers him nothing in government except with interviews with IRS agents.

            I know, he cheated, got caught, took amnesty, so he's off the hook. Then lied steadily to the public. About that and everything else. Everyone with a good word for Romney (including lamebrain Obama): The guy spent every day of the last year lying every time he opened his mouth. Put him down like a rabid dog.

            • 8 votes
            #2.40 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:49 PM EST

            A little late to the party here but kaybeetoys, that was about as well written as anything I've seen here in a long time.

            • 5 votes
            #2.41 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:11 AM EST

            If it had'nt been for the Immigration and Nauralization Act, my mother would not have been able to return to the U.S., after a trip to Germany to see her mother and sister, when I was just a baby, are you implying that she should not have returned to me?? I myself am a Naturalized Citizen of this country, and am proud to be an American, even though I could, if I cared to, claim German citizenship, having been born in that country. Are you implying that legal immigrants, and their children should'nt become Americans???

            • 5 votes
            #2.42 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 2:05 AM EST

            kaybeetoys- You owe an apology to the descendants of the native peoples whose land was stolen from them.

            I owe them and you absolutely NOTHING! This land was not "stolen", it was obtained through conquest, as it has been since the beginning of human history. The more advanced civilization won. Besides, if you really think it belongs to the native Americans...what are you doing here living on their land? Hypocrite!

            You owe an apology to every American who is descended from the African slaves who were brought here in chains to work that stolen land.

            The other Africans who sold their own kind as slaves owe apologies, not me. In fact, the African descendents of those who came here as slaves are the luckiest people around. They live in a great country that their own kind have never built, and could never build. Considering the crime, violence and destruction they have brought to our neighborhoods and the money it costs all us taxpayers to educate, house, feed and incarcerate the many who produce offspring they can't peoperly care for, they owe US reparations.

            You write this blatantly racist B.S. and have the nerve to call yourself a liberal? You are no liberal.

            It isn't "racist" to tell a hard truth, and I'm a liberal, NOT a communist! People today seem to have the two confused.

            You think your white skin makes you better than others? You think only Americans are entitled to freedom and justice?

            It's not "the skin" you idiot! It's the differences is I.Q. and character of an entire race on average that drives different values and intellectual abilities, and hence, the flavor and quality of that civilization. Read "the Bell Curve" about the proven differences in racial I.Q. and behavioral traits. Oh I know, leftists try, try, try to make excuses to discredit and ignore its conclusions, but they can be witnesses daily by anyone who has their eyes open wide enough. I can tell you don't.

            • 3 votes
            #2.43 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 6:55 AM EST

            Proud 2B Liberal,

            "It isn't "racist" to tell a hard truth, and I'm a liberal, NOT a communist! People today seem to have the two confused."

            You're about as "liberal" as Attila the Hun was! First you make the old argument that "might makes right". The only moral value for you is power. That argument is a favorite of neo-Nazis and Skinheads, by the way. They even published a little book with the title Might Makes Right. Your second argument is the old racist one that blacks could never create a civilization of their own because they are genetically inferior to whites. It sounds to me from reading your post that you are most likely a neo-Nazi racist or a Skinhead or, at the very least, you are well versed in their literature; you most certainly are NOT a liberal!

            • 8 votes
            #2.44 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 7:36 AM EST

            Proud 2B Liberal, you are wrong with your assertion this land was not stolen from the indigenous people. The fact is this land called America was stolen. The Federal Government treated with the indigenous people creating business agreements that were signed by both sides. The government, Congress, never honored any of the treaties that were signed with the tribes indigenous to these lands. I will state you are not liberal and in my opinion you behave like a typical Republican. As for me being a hypocrite for living on these lands this is not so. My family was force marched from Georgia to Oklahoma in 1832 by none other than Andrew Jackson. We still own and live on our "allotment lands" to this day and are citizens of the Great Muscogee Nation.

            Let's say you sign a business agreement to buy a home with a mortgage company. You make a few payments and then decide to stop because you do not feel like you should have to pay. The business agreement becomes null and void causing the mortgage company to take their property back. What I just narrated on is the same instance with the Federal Government and the tribes. The Federal Government has not paid their due bill and therefore have defaulted.

            Tribes have taken the government to court and have won, but the decision has been thrown out because the Federal Government cites the "Doctrine of Discovery" that has its roots from the papal bull, "Inter Cetera." I will go as far to provide you with a link that narrates on this principle the government hides behind and has since "Cherokee vs Georgia." Where the Great Indian Killer and President Jackson declared, "Let the courts enforce it" meaning their legal decision. Here is the link if you are interested in knowing the truth:http://ili.nativeweb.org/sdrm_art.html http://ili.nativeweb.org/sdrm_art.html, Have a great day and please take the time to read since it will dispell your assertion.

            • 5 votes
            #2.45 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 8:44 AM EST

            Mickey-1983943

            Intellect-1949393

            It's interesting to witness the power of denial.

            When the white man came to the American continent and eventually took over the land (and built, developed, and improved it - the real definition of progress) you call it stealing because the natives were here first, though they had built nothing. Why wouldn't we say they were bringing "diversity" to the native continent? Diversity is good, right??

            When foreign people then move into this continent, and are poised to take over this land and all its infrastructure, economy, government and industry, you call it "progress" and say it's a good thing, though every indicator is that it will end in collapse.

            You like to call me a "racist". That's fine, I don't mind. However, you would be surprised to know that I've had the same college conditioning you have. I once believed the same things you believe: All people are equally intelligent, talented and capable, and if one group prospers less than another it's only because of unfairness or injustice. It sounds nice. It sounds inspiring, warm and fuzzy and everything, but it is a cleverly constructed lie. It just isn't true.

            As long as we continue to swallow this lie, we will never find real solutions to societies' ills. We will only place more unfair restrictions on whites (college entrance, government loans and contracts, etc.) while simultaneously granting unearned privileges and special exception on others, all while confiscating more of our hard earned money to do it.

            Enjoy what's left of America, it won't last long.

            • 2 votes
            #2.46 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST

            Proud 2B Liberal,

            "However, you would be surprised to know that I've had the same college conditioning you have. I once believed the same things you believe: All people are equally intelligent, talented and capable, and if one group prospers less than another it's only because of unfairness or injustice. It sounds nice. It sounds inspiring, warm and fuzzy and everything, but it is a cleverly constructed lie. It just isn't true."

            I disagree. It is not a "lie". It's just part of the old and ongoing debate between "nature versus nurture", an argument that has never yet been settled and probably never will be. You yourself have apparently simply chosen to accept the nature part of the debate as being a settled question. The truth is that there are very good arguments based on very good evidence in favor of both sides of the question. I prefer to suspend judgement in the matter. I don't see it as being an either/or decision. It's entirely possible and even probable that both nature and nurture contribute to human development; each in varying degrees.

            • 3 votes
            #2.47 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST

            Proud 2B Liberal, I was accepted into one of the best universities in the nation due to my academic records and SAT scores and studied in Germany at the MPI. I paid for every bit of my college education so there was no special acceptance for my entrance. When I applied for graduate school I took the GRE like every White person and happened to score higher than many of my peers did (3 points aways from perfect) so I was accepted and awarded a full academic scholarship.

            I now work as a research scientist making a great living as a middle class citizen. Actually a citizen of my nation and of the USA so it looks like I have two federally recognized ones. I was not nurtured but I earned and out did my fellow students taking the same course work and actually more credit hours per semester than my peers. I applied for an internship with NASA/USGS and was accepted along with writing a proposal that was funded for my graduate research outside of NASA and USGS. You are either a racist or have a chip on your shoulder because you feel a minority was given your place in line or both.

            As for the indigenous people of this land they contributed quite a bit to the foreigners to this land. If it was not for the indigenous people these new and strange foreigners would have starved and died out. Instead the tribal people fed them, showed them how to farm and how to build shelters that would stand up to this climate. Not all tribes were nomadic as depicted on television as most were sessile with permanent homes. Many towns in this country still retain the names of the original tribal towns of these lands such as Eufaula, GA for one or other towns in FL, AL, MS, NY, OH and other states.

            The tribes provided corn, beans, squash, tomatoes and corn to name a few that now feed most of the world. You do have a lot to learn but I believe you would rather run around blissfully ignorant instead of opening your mind to more than White people. Another point to make is the indigenous people have sent more men and women to America's wars by percentage than any other race or ethnic group. Do you think they hold a grudge against being herded onto reservations like POW camps? Being given a number (roll number) like a Jewish person in WWII were to keep a count on how many descendants were alive so one day this country could say all of the indigenous people of this land are now gone. Now we do not owe them anything, and we got off pretty easy since we did not have to honor any business agreements with them savages. We fooled you didn't we?

            They were so adept at adapting the White man's education they actually excelled. This in one of the reasons the Five Civilized Tribes were removed from the Southeastern United States because they had a better form of government, better homes and farms and their separate education system far outstripped even the state of Georgia's. Read some real history on the Removal Act of the tribes from the Southeast. For example read Cherokee v Georgia with an open mind. The White man is not the only people on this planet capable of learning and applying this knowledge.

            • 1 vote
            #2.48 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 5:18 PM EST
            Reply

            Doesn't that just tell you all you need to know about Mitty? He couldn't pick up the tab for his campaign aides to get home. Way to keep it classy, Mitt.

            What a disconnect. Mitt and Annie had "special" polls they believed that assured them they would gain the White House. Probably the same disconnect that they demonstrated throughout the campaign, the difference between them and "you people".

            Oh and MItty? Any offer from this President that you work with him? You do understand that he is not making you Co-President, right?

            Honestly...I rarely dislike politicians. But I am devoutly grateful that they are off the national stage, hopefully forever.

            • 64 votes
            #3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:32 PM EST

            NDD - President Obama said something about working with Mitt. I truly believe that if he thinks Romney can help in some area, he'll tap him. Why not? We're all in this together and IF Romney can ACTUALLY do something - President Obama should let him!

            • 28 votes
            #3.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:52 PM EST

            The Romneys loved these people so much they were almost like family yet they wouldn't pay for a cab to take them home after hours? Really?

            I thought it was a myth that Romney hadn't written a concession speech; Mitt & Ann's body language over the weekend sure suggested to me they knew they were losing.

            Garrett--thanks for this report---I've enjoyed your reporting throughout the election.

            • 47 votes
            #3.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:59 PM EST

            Seeking, you are right, but Obama is dumb like a fox. If Romney doesn't meet with and lend a hand, Obama can point out "well obviously Mr. Romney wasn't as much for America as he would have you beilieve" or, if Romney does help him and Mr. Obama gets some ideas (I sincerely think he has none but would love to be wrong for the sake of all of us) and implements them, he wins again.

            Kind of like asking the old double edged question "Hey Bill, have you stopped beating your wife yet?" Any answer given makes the person asked a loser.

            • 7 votes
            #3.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:17 PM EST

            Talk

            How about, "I'll get to her after I stop beating yours."

            • 20 votes
            #3.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:21 PM EST

            Talk - I think it would be worth the President's time to make the effort. Remember, asking Romney to work with him is also "reaching across the aisle." It won't hurt and could again show the Democrats to be the party more willing to work to get things done!

            • 22 votes
            #3.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:26 PM EST

            Let's just all remember exactly how Romney made his billions, and at what cost to many thousands of people. For every Romney, there are plenty of excellent people who are self made and can contribute to ideas that will help this country. Mr. Romney does not have the monopoly on what is needed to move this country forward. After all folks, the math did not add up!

            • 37 votes
            #3.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST

            In the meantime, lots of Marriott points will be cashed in.

            Doubtful - Those were likely forfeited and deposited to the Romney accounts.

            • 34 votes
            #3.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST

            F6Zman - It seems to me you are whom we need to be afraid of. Are your posts for real or just to cause a stirr on this site? Seriously... with your comments you serve absolutely no purpose on this planet.

            As for Romney cutting off the credit cards what can I say.... Ruthless. This is why you were not elected. It had nothing to do with your party. It was your ideals, your constant flip flopping on issues and your past history that turned us all off.

            Your wife said: I am concerned for his mental well being. The one thing she would change about you: Your anger. She also called you 'cheap' not frugal. I can see now that it all fits just right.

            So very happy I made a difference choice.

            • 31 votes
            #3.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST

            One hopes there is no offer except for a conversation and discussion about the flipflopping, 47% comment, the Sensata in Bainport, Delphi corporation and how Mitt would have monetarily benefited from "let Detroit go Bankrupt", his latest Etch-a-Sketch drawing, the Jeep comment, tax returns, why the former Joint-Cheif-of-Staff Colin Powell does not trust him on foreign policy....and, how he, immensely, lacks manners, etiquette, and civility during the second debate when he, basically, invades the presidents personal space, and, rudely and incessantly kept asking: "Have you looked at your pension"? It was the tone and demeanor that was unsettling and unnerving.

            • 28 votes
            #3.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST

            F6 is a troll. He claims others are idiots for using their Constitutional right to vote yet does so with a grammar level of a middle school dropout. I'd even wonder if he has the right to vote.

            • 24 votes
            #3.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:28 PM EST

            I wouldn't be surprised if Romney charges his campaign staff for using the phones & computers at the campaign headquarters during the campaign.

            • 17 votes
            #3.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:10 PM EST

            Romney has not been correct on anything except when he agreed that Obama knew more than him. Why would Obama want his advice on anything unless he wanted to destroy some company.

            • 14 votes
            #3.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:56 PM EST

            Oh boo freaking hoo- the system suckers are in the majority now. geez Pat, get a room, tired of your public obamagasms. Morons re elected Jesse Jackson Jr., he's been in a mental hospital since June, and is under investigation for embezzlement! Obama's win isn't such a surprise with idiots like that voting. Stocks are tanking with the news, they know what a fool he is.

            • 1 vote
            #3.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:24 PM EST

            What confuses me even more (than I already am) is how anyone can so blindly ignore reality. Romney's only public office was as Governor of Massachusetts. In all his campaigning, he kept saying what a great job he did as Governor and it should be an indicator of how well he would do as president. He balanced the budget; he created jobs; he passed comprehensive health care (although he kept avoiding that one); he worked with democrats; he WORKED FOR THE PEOPLE; etc., etc.

            With such great success as Governor of Massachusetts, shouldn't/wouldn't the people of Massachusetts "adore" such a governor? I mean, based on all his boasting, the folks from MA should consider him second only to GOD!

            Why, OH why then did the people of Massachusetts chose Obama 2 to 1 over Romney? If Romney was such a great leader that did all the things he said he did for MA, why, Oh why did the people of MA reject him so soundly?

            Let's look at Christi. He's a Republican Governor in a mostly democratic state. New Jersey voted for Obama, but most Jerseians like Christi. Why isn't that the case with Romney?

            I think the answer to this conundrum is what the current Governor of MA said at the Democratic Convention, "Romney was more interested in having the title of Governor than doing the work of a Governor." It’s exactly how he would have functioned if elected to the presidency. This guy is so used to getting what he wants; the ultimate price was the title of “President of the United States.” That’s why he didn’t’ flinch one bit about changing positions, ideology, etc. To him, the end justifies the means. He doesn’t really care about the direction of this country; he wanted to go down in the history books as one of the presidents of the greatest country in human history. Well, Mr. Romney, you can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time. BUT! YOU CAN’T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME!! And the fooling time ran out. I just feel sorry for those that hate Obama so much that they were willing to put an empty suit into the most important office of the land. What a sad mentality to have to live with…………

            • 21 votes
            #3.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:26 PM EST

            You cannot expect a Demacrat to be truely open minded. It is too much like personally paying the judge's salary and then telling him to fairly judge a case. Wave the promise of free everything, tell people nothing is their fault "blame it on the man" and assure them their will be no consequences for their irresponsible choices, whats not to like. I liked listening to fairytales when I was a child as well. And yes I know the oh sooooo tolerent, open minded liberals will attack and thats ok I don't expect any better out of them.

              #3.15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:53 PM EST

              oh but feel free to attack my grammer, no sleep, tired and it is bad.

                #3.16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:54 PM EST

                becky, Republicans still like listening to fairy tales, in fact, they draw some social policies from them. And do you not realize there are many people who are receiving welfare but vote Republican? Mississippi is the poorest (and red) state if you recall.

                • 7 votes
                #3.17 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:29 AM EST

                Becky if you like fantasy you should check out a clip of Karl Rove or Dick Morris predictions .

                • 4 votes
                #3.18 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 9:09 AM EST
                Reply

                I seriously wonder how Ann is taking this . . . . She was so off-putting to everyone during the campaign and to have her dream taken away by "you people" must sting like he!!!

                • 56 votes
                #4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:33 PM EST

                She's relieved that she doesn't have to move into a smaller house.

                • 56 votes
                #4.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST

                Without a car elevator.

                • 48 votes
                #4.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST

                I think Da Noid and blearyeyed have it right.

                I would have liked to be in the room when it dawned slowly and inexorably on poor Annie that the "little people" took the bright shiny new toy that she wanted and felt entitled to, away from her.

                That must have been one great tantrum!

                • 45 votes
                #4.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST

                I, for one, will gladly expunge the brain cell that holds the images of Ann. That being said, the odor of burnt food will forever serve as a reminder of her burnt Welsh Cakes charred to a crisp.

                • 25 votes
                #4.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST

                maybe it was Ann that made Mitt wait an extra hour before conceding....

                "but but...the little people don't count do they?"

                Yes WE do! WE the people have spoken!

                • 37 votes
                #4.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST

                She won't get to rip up the victory garden to make a place to store her horse manure.

                • 28 votes
                #4.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST

                I seriously wonder how Ann is taking this

                She is busy attending to Mitt's mental health. She was, after all, quite worried about it.

                • 32 votes
                #4.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:38 PM EST

                LOL!! she is very concerned about her hubby's MENTAL WELL BEING. If you look and listen closely, MITT ROMNEY'S CONCESSION SPEECH indicated HUGE PERSONAL RELIEF. He did not want to win, really. He was greatly relieved like he took a big dump. "At last i can get back to doing what i like to do and do best - and that is, stealing from amercans and sending their jobs overseas so my friends can later repossess their homes". He smiles.

                • 33 votes
                #4.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                Seems the ones really crying are those who put millions into his campaign in an attempt to buy a Presidency.

                (Outside Republicans and donors are another story. Some are angry over what they felt was an overly rosy picture painted by the campaign, and at what amounts to the loss of their investment.)

                I guess they are saying that Romney screwed them. So what else is new? Want to bet they try to write it off and screw the taxpayers?

                • 24 votes
                #4.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:26 PM EST

                See ya, Willard - wouldn't wanna be ya!! snicker...

                • 17 votes
                #4.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST

                I think the look on her face as she walked off the stage after the concession speech said it all. She looked like she was going to drop to the floor and start crying. They could have hung around a little longer and thanked the people that had been sitting there for so long while they waited for Romney to write a new speech and supported them throughout this entire process. Instead he gave a good speech but certainly not heartfelt, family joined, they waved and left. Obama didn't come out for another 30+ minutes so it is not like they were being pushed off.

                Obama on the other hand delivered a wonderful speech with emotion and hung around to thank everyone for quite some time. Which family is wins the "class act" award? Not the Romney's.

                • 23 votes
                #4.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:14 PM EST

                maybe next time the republicans want to run a businessman for president they could find one with, I dunno, integrity

                • 23 votes
                #4.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:33 PM EST
                Comment author avatarbrutaltruthExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                I just lost my health care, architectural drawings for projects were tossed in the dumpster because companies are now going to sit on their money because of the massive taxes coming and the business next to me just tossed a for sale sign out in front. INTEGRITY? You mean like unsealing your college records? Integrity??? You mean like HELPING our ambassador who was sodomized with a gun and the MURDER of seals???

                Please Lori W---- kindly go "F" yourself!

                schlub!

                • 4 votes
                #4.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:22 PM EST

                The delay between the election call and Romney's concession speech? They probably had people making the call to cut off the credit cards of campaign workers and to transfer the Marriott points to Romney's account. I mean, to find out that your card no longer worked when you were on the cab ride home means they were wasting no time after finding that Romney lost in closing the accounts. So for all those that were/are rah-rah Romney, take a hard look at the cold, calculated, and cheap way he treated his campaign workers that worked hard to try to get him elected. If he will do that to them, think what he would have done to average Americans (not including the 1-10% of upper Americans that tried to buy the election for him so that they would get their awards and perks).

                • 17 votes
                #4.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:48 PM EST

                @ Brital Truth (Lies)

                What I'm pretty sure was meant by 'integrity' was, like showing your tax returns (unamended to reflect your lies) or maybe like the Republican congress cutting $60 million dollars from the Libyan embassy budget even as they were begging for more money from the GOP led house. You know, like that!

                I would say to go 'F' yourself, but it looks like the you and the GOP already did that!

                • 25 votes
                #4.15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:16 PM EST
                Comment author avatarErock-2299434Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Ok enjoy the land of high taxes and government control you voted for it!!! When we fall off the cliff all you liberals that voted for Obama it's your fault noone elses. Idiots!!!

                • 3 votes
                #4.16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST

                brutaltruth ...

                You sound very ... uhhhh ... unemployable at the moment. Possibly an anger management class is in the works? I'd also suggest you move. Business is booming here and I live in a RED State! Companies have been "sitting" on their money for YEARS! You really thought Romney was going to make all of the CEOs of the world up the pay to their employees??? Best laugh of the DAY!

                And the whole "sodomized" thing ... BULL@!$%#! Disgusting .... simply disgusting. Folk like you will stoop to ANY level when their point is not "heard" the first time. Move. You don't like this country and for us to move forward, we don't need your ilk either.

                Good Lord!

                • 12 votes
                #4.17 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST

                Layton - I rather enjoy reading these tirades, they remind of those posters from '50s B-rated horror movies Attack of the Giant 50 Foot Woman, or Attack of the 3 Ton Radiated Ant from Uranus. Why just from BrutalTruth, we could have headlines of "Trillions Laid off By the 8-Legged Monster Obamacare", or "Attack of the Two Thousand Ton Sodomizing Sperm Whale".

                • 5 votes
                #4.18 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST

                RedDevPS ... Kaysville Theater ... totally sticky floor with with a boatload of penny candy from the drug store next door ... 50's B movies ... I always thought Godzilla was going to come over the Wasatch front just like all the spiders did ... thank you for putting it in perspective. I so can't stand whiny people! :)

                Loved your headlines . . . . :)

                • 3 votes
                #4.19 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:04 PM EST

                Ummmm---Layton.....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2930264/posts

                If you read only NBC you will not hear word from around the world, try using Google with your fingers instead of picking your nose. I AM employed, work in commercial and industrial jobs and run the warehouse from where I work. I am involved with the people bidding jobs so as to get the tools to the people who need them. The facts I stated are correct and you are WRONG.

                WE have not seen a raise in 4 years of Obama, and none in sight. Jobs are bid SUPER low to keep people working. WE have barely made a profit in 4 years, yet we keep people employed instead of on the welfare roles. We have scrimped and cut everywhere to KEEP PEOPLE WORKING.

                By the way----FORWARD is a communist slogan.....you know, like the "great leap forward"....killed millions of Chinese with that groovy little slogan.

                As far as Jimmy----look to the requests for more security and WHO they were given (can you say wealth redistribution at it's finest?). Also, look who is now running the country----the muslim brotherhood, remember Daniel Pearl? THOSE GUYS. It was NOT the republican who removed security for our ambassador, nor was it republicans that sat by and did NOTHING. Democracy my eye, WAKE UP!

                  #4.20 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:12 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Aides to Romney said they were optimistic he would be receptive to a sincere offer from the president to work together.

                  I still think it would be a good idea for the President to offer Romney to head a task force on rebuilding the north east after Sandy and to come out with a bipartisan approach to climate change. Romney was a governor in that region so it is an area he knows well. I'm sure Gov's Christie and Cuomo and Mayor Bloomberg would be on board with this. This could be a win-win for everybody!

                  • 22 votes
                  Reply#5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:34 PM EST

                  Al,

                  I still think it would be a good idea for the President to offer Romney to head a task force on rebuilding the north east after Sandy and to come out with a bipartisan approach to climate change.

                  If he didn't sabotage it. . . .

                  newday,

                  #3 Doesn't that just tell you all you need to know about Mitty? He couldn't pick up the tab for his campaign aides to get home. Way to keep it classy, Mitt.

                  Exactly.

                  And JoAnne,

                  #2 Now I'm about to pass out from the loss of blood. Try getting a real job, like the rest of us.

                  Couldn't have said it better myself.

                  • 30 votes
                  #5.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:54 PM EST

                  JoAnne - oh, didn't you know, according to the sore losers, we're all on handouts! (As I run from meeting to meeting!)

                  • 32 votes
                  #5.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:05 PM EST

                  I still think it would be a good idea for the President to offer Romney to head a task force on rebuilding the north east after Sandy

                  I'm not so sure that is a good idea .. more than ever, those people are going to need their pensions kept intact.

                  • 25 votes
                  #5.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                  Al---I usually agree with you but I don't see what good would come of getting Romney involved. And while the President has been amazing in his ability to turn the other cheek, I had the impression that he personally did not like Gov. Romney.

                  • 25 votes
                  #5.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:13 PM EST

                  I think someone that has real world experience in disaster recovery would be a better fit. Romney could head up some do-nothing commission.

                  • 11 votes
                  #5.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST

                  Al---I usually agree with you but I don't see what good would come of getting Romney involved. And while the President has been amazing in his ability to turn the other cheek, I had the impression that he personally did not like Gov. Romney.

                  I guess I should state that I posted that with the caveat that "Massachusetts Mitt" is closer to being the real Mitt than that "severely conservative" clown. At one time, Willard said global warming was an issue, coming up with a way to mitigate it in the northeast will have to be some sort of public-private joint effort because if you sit back and wait for Congress to fund it and the Army Corp of Engineers to build it, you end up with New Orleans. Willard knows the players and this would be a good project for him. It would also be helpful to President Obama and the Democrats when they try to address climate change again to have Romney and Gov, Christie on board.

                  • 5 votes
                  #5.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:05 PM EST

                  Obama is no fool. He makes his moves very deliberately and with much planning . I would love to see Obama throw Mitt a bone. If Mitt takes the bone, he is completely finished forever, the republicans won't touch him with a 10 foot pole (John Huntsman anyone) and if he refuses it, he's petty and not interested in helping America. Talk about a no win situation. Don't think for a second Obama and his staff don't already know that.

                  • 14 votes
                  #5.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:45 PM EST

                  BS!

                    #5.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:59 PM EST

                    ..... oh, it just warms my heart and puts a smile (snicker) on my face to see all the repugs STILL so upset .... it just makes OBAMA'S WIN that much more delightful .... GLOAT MUCH ? U BET !

                    OBAMA WON CUZ "HE'S THE MAN" .... MITT LOST CUZ ........ CUZ, HE'S MITT !

                    • 2 votes
                    #5.9 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:33 AM EST
                    Reply

                    I must have romnesia! Who is Mitt Romney?

                    • 48 votes
                    Reply#6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:38 PM EST

                    Now that's a good one, hehe.

                    • 12 votes
                    #6.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:16 PM EST

                    Mitt's new job - helping the IRS find tax cheats. Part of his plea bargain.

                    • 13 votes
                    #6.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:51 PM EST

                    Someone with fiscal common sense you meat head!

                    • 1 vote
                    #6.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:24 PM EST

                    Tax cheats like people who have to pay a fine of 2k for not being able to afford health insurance?

                    2000 new IRS agents IS BIG BLOATED GOVERNMENT!

                      #6.4 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:14 AM EST
                      Reply

                      its the end of the ole white boys club! now lets throw the rest of the republicans out of office!

                      • 31 votes
                      Reply#7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:39 PM EST

                      Republicans in the House may have gotten the message. They may not be as quick to stand in the way because they have shown that they can be replaced. The Republicans will never stand a chance as long as they have the Tea Party. It needs to go its own way to a third party and then just die away.

                      • 15 votes
                      #7.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:40 PM EST
                      Comment author avatarbrutaltruthExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      Utopia banished...welcome Ameritopia...Marxism fails, and here is someone you sucks on the teat. Congrats for being such a drone!

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:27 PM EST

                      Wow it's come to this reverse racism. Now the white ppl are the minority. Maybe we should be inslaved would that make you feel better. Crazy like theres no white ppl in the Democratic party lol.

                      • 3 votes
                      #7.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:33 PM EST

                      reverse racism? No just plain racism... Almost every political forum has several people cheering the downfall of "the white old men" and some how that's ok. If that were said about any other race the commenter would be a horrible person. But not a Liberal since they are soooo open minded and tolerent they can be as much of a racist pig as they want to be. I judge a man/woman on their actions and character regardless of race. I will not vote for/or against someone due to race only due to their political platforms..guess that's why I'm a racist, closed minded conservative SMDH!

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.4 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:02 AM EST

                      We only have intelligent and sane white people in the democratic party, we don't have Fox Fake News supporters. Grumpy Old People will stay with GOP and die out like dinosaurs.

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.5 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:50 AM EST
                      Reply

                      Prior to the first debate, Republican money was on the verge of being pulled from Romney and put towards Republicans running for the House and Senate.

                      In hindsight, that first debate cost Republicans dearly in the House and Senate races.

                      • 34 votes
                      Reply#8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST

                      Good point, Debbie.

                      • 24 votes
                      #8.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:13 PM EST

                      Good point Debbie, I had not really thought of it that way-now I am wondering if there had been a plan in motion. Whatever, at the end of the day it is all good.

                      • 20 votes
                      #8.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST
                      Reply

                      I've no doubt that many were offended by the thought of private individuals making huge contributions (investments) as a means of enhancing their personal wealth versus enhancing prosperity for all Americans. To say that the practice did not work to elect a president is not quite true. It may not have had a huge impact. It may have only accounted for a 1-2% swing in voting but in the context of this past election, the 1-2% may have been enough to elect President Obama.

                      Things do not move quickly in American politics and that isn't always bad; slowly or not, things move and in the direction of what the people want. Obama was elected by the people who cast their ballot to express their wishes. It would be wise for some to take note: Money can not buy everything, and certainly not American patriotism and sense of duty.

                      • 21 votes
                      Reply#9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:23 PM EST

                      Just a man and his horse. Dancing into the sunset.

                      • 18 votes
                      Reply#10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:36 PM EST

                      I don't know why but when these presidential campaigns are over I always feel sorry for the losing candidate. It has been my experience that they are mostly fine, patriotic and intelligent men of different vision. I do not feel sorry for their supporters but I do for them. I would feel the same for Obama had he lost.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:45 PM EST

                      Ron - I have to admit I had a pang of sympathy for Romney too even though I would have been devastated if he had won. But, I'm the person that pulls for my football team in the Super Bowl then feels bad when the losing team looks dejected in the locker room afterward.

                      I truly believe Romney would have destroyed a lot of good things about this country. He is out of touch and would not have worked for the majority of the people. But, I also think he wanted this for his Dad - and the realization he will never get it hurt him deeply.

                      Now let's just hope his sons don't decide they have to do it for him. This could be a never-ending cycle!

                      • 20 votes
                      #11.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:14 PM EST

                      I felt bad when they showed the Victory Party that turned into a funeral. Those people were among the deceived. They were in obvious shock. I know they are good people basically; just misguided and badly informed. I hope they will examine themselves and in the next few weeks get a better perspective on what this country needs and how to get there in practical terms. The vaporware that Romney was offering simply didn't make sense. Seeing how this whole thing turned out to be a house of cards shows how close this totally unprepared man came to the most powerful seat in the world.

                      • 14 votes
                      #11.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:39 PM EST

                      I wonder if they will ask Karl Rove to be the brains again? Probably not I suspect. Just think, the campaign money wasted could have helped rebuild NJ and NY. No more Super Pacs.

                      • 15 votes
                      #11.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST

                      No sympathy. He would earn my sympathy if he ran an honest campaign, but he lied every chance he got, and he spit on 47% of this country.

                      • 17 votes
                      #11.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:01 PM EST

                      I concur. F*ck him. Nobody will need to see his birth certifcate now..

                      • 5 votes
                      #11.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:59 PM EST

                      Did anyone here catch 'The Daily Show' on Wednesday night, the segment in which John Stewart ran the clips from Fox News and Karl Rove on election night, when Rove starts to have the meltdown questioning the numbers as the headling "Obama Reelected" scrolling by below him? How Megan gets sent for answers to the office where the bean counters were making the election call? And how Megan asked Rove if Republicans just make up the numbers to make them feel better or did they actually believe the numbers? I've recorded it and will enjoy going back and playing that segment over and over the next few weeks. The meltdown of Karl Rove is priceless! (And I wonder if Megan got called on the carpet the next day for daring to ask Rove the "numbers" question since that did not sound like a typical Fox News talking point. Sounds more like a question they'd ask of a Democrat!)

                      • 11 votes
                      #11.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:59 PM EST

                      jobalz ... yes to The Daily Show! Thank God for DVRs! I kept that one .... P R I C E L E S S!

                      • 7 votes
                      #11.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:53 PM EST

                      Agree ! the look on rove's face was worth my flipping the channel. He looked like he was visably turning green. I'm sure in his head he is thinking, OMG , I'll never get paid these princely sums again by dumb gazillionaires. In fact, I loved that someone said they would love to see rove trying to explain why everything he had said for months was wrong ! Cement shoes anyone?

                      • 5 votes
                      #11.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:16 PM EST

                      ... feel badly for the losing repugs ? ... not a chance ! .... they selected the wrong candidate and they supported and cheered on the wrong candidate, they endorsed the wrong stance on american politics, they insulted and demeaned President Obama every chance they got .... they insulted the integrity and intelligence of more than 1/2 of the american people .... they called on the rich rigs to buy the WH ... but we, the people ensured that purchase didnt happen .... thank you AMERICA !

                      OBAMA WON CUZ "HE'S THE MAN" ...... MITT LOST ! ACCEPT IT ... I RELISH IN IT ! AS DOES THE REST OF THE WORLD .....

                      • 2 votes
                      #11.9 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST
                      Reply

                      So Obama wins the election and the first 3 articles on MSNBC are about.......Romney?

                      This is not about America for liberals, it is about "Getting" the GOP. I'm sure NBC will do it's best to act as a cover for Obama and any failure will be swept under the carpet.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:47 PM EST

                      There is an unmistakably strong element of resentment in leftist political movements to be sure. They've been successful precisely because they provide an outlet for people with feelings of inferiority to lash out against symbols of power and success. Catholicism makes a very similar appeal to the weak and, not ironically, both Catholicism and Leftism tend towards demonizing the same things (wealth, worldly success, power, strength, individualism, belief in oneself, etc.).

                      Conservatism has been fighting a slow retreat precisely because it doesn't command the same psychological dependence that lefitism can. One need only look at the comments on this board to realize that many left leaning people are EMOTIONALLY involved in the election in a very deep way. I don't think the same is true for independents or conservatives.

                      • 3 votes
                      #12.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:04 PM EST

                      Travis - one need only look at your name to gauge the degree of emotional attachment YOU have to YOUR ideology.... but don't let that stop you, I'm sure you sound awesome to yourself.

                      • 8 votes
                      #12.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:24 PM EST

                      DougLogan-stuntman, P.I.: We're less than 48 hours after the election was called. I think three stories about the Romney campaign are quite typical at this point and not due to NBC or anyone else leaning "liberal" or "Democrat". The GOP was not humble in the run-up to the election, they were frankly stating they expected to win the election. Why, Romney supposedly did not even have a concession speech prewritten, he was so sure he was going to be elected. Writing a concession speech probably accounted for that hour between the election call and the time he finally showed up and conceded the election. So it's not unusual at this point to have stories disecting what happened that caused the loss of the election for the GOP and stories of the final hours, well, people are just interested.

                      • 7 votes
                      #12.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:08 PM EST
                      Reply

                      @Alaskagirl - Don't let the credit card thing bug you. It's simply a prudent thing to do. If the campaign is closing down, you don't let people run around with credit cards. The aides can foot the bill for the last cab ride and then expense it to the campaign. Letting them have a credit card where they can rack up debt (gee, kind of like our country) as a personal consolation prize is NOT a wise thing to do. I would do the same thing.

                      I sincerely hope things don't continue as they have the last 4 years and the President gets his act together and does great things for this country. However, I'm not hopeful simply because I don't think it would have mattered WHO won the White House - we are in for a very bumpy ride. I can only hope it isn't a ride that ends with us plunging off a cliff.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:51 PM EST

                      The republiocans spent the last four years trying to get Obama out of the White House. Can you imagine what could have been accomplished had all that effort and energy been spent towards helping America and the American people? Regardless of your political affiliation, tell John Boehner that gridlock in Congress will not be tolerated and that the American people want cooperation with all parties. The election is over and the healing needs to start. Please, we all are Americans and live in the best country lets all work together rather than try and destroy each other.

                      • 33 votes
                      #13.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST

                      Wow, if your loyal subjects were THAT irresponsible,...why did you let them work on your campaign in the first place? Were they REALLY the BEST that money could buy?

                      Or did they believe in your cause?

                      I bring this up because a friend of mine received a 'get out to the poll' call on Monday and my friend informed the caller that she would be voting; but not for Romney - and the 'volunteer' said, "I agree with you, I'm just paid to make these calls!"

                      WOW!

                      I don't know very many people at OFA who were paid, a few, yes; but by and large - LOYAL volunteers working toward a common goal! Willingly, faithfully and with much success.

                      That's got to sting a little.

                      • 15 votes
                      #13.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:31 PM EST

                      In my opinion, if the Republicans continue to block everything that the president tries to do, they are seriously going to hurt their chances in 2016 to get a Republican president elected. People on both sides are sick and tired of the animosity between the parties in the Congress....they want to see things get done for the country and NOT for the party. Grover Norquist needs to be thrown out of Washington, D.C., along with his ridiculous and treasonous pledge! Both parties need to reach across the aisle and learn to compromise because we'll get a whole lot more accomplished by working together than working against each other! But, if the Republicans continue with their intense dislike for the president and keep voting "no" on everything.....they are going to find out in 2016 that they are going to be left out in the cold again! I think this is one of the big reasons why the Republicans didn't win this election.....they have 4 years to change the American public's minds about their dedication to this country vs. their dedication to their extreme right-wing members. It didn't work this time; it won't work in the future.....the Tea Party has got to go!

                      I'm feeling very optimistic about the next 4 years, and I hope the rest of the U.S. will also see that our president is going to do great things with the help of total bipartisanship in the House and the Senate. So much can be done if they want it to be.

                      • 23 votes
                      #13.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:33 PM EST

                      takes three to tango, the President, Senate, and the House of Represenatives.

                      • 6 votes
                      #13.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:41 PM EST

                      King Rush said if Obama wins, the republican party is dead, and he was right. They need to dismiss everyone in the RNC and start over. They need to totally reinvent themselves and distance themselves from the racists and teabaggers. A complete overhaul might not be enough to save what is left, but they probably have no chance in the next election, especially if America rises up like she can.

                      • 12 votes
                      #13.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

                      C R/ You do not think it mattered who won the White House? Romney could not have wiped out all of our social programs as he claimed,but if you think that eliminating comprehensive health care is finished with I hate to tell you but it will continue to be under attack and if/when that doesn't work the necessary amendments to fix it will never be enacted. The A.C.A. is merely in it's infancy. It will take many years and amendments to make it truly workable. All good social programs,unless for the sole benefit of our so called elected Representatives have had and will continue to have difficulty in their passage. Our P.O.T.U.S. is the only one who has been able to have this accepted and that was only by having it watered down . Who knows how many good programs that the Repub/T.P. would have attempted and possibly destroyed if Romney had been voted in as P.O.T.U.S. Thank you U.S. voters for getting us passed the ninteenth century with this vote.

                      • 11 votes
                      #13.6 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:45 PM EST

                      @Clara KCMO, it is not about loyalty. I'm sure they were all loyal. It is about fiduciary responsibility. Have you never heard of "Trust, but verify"? The campaign is run on money contributed by donors. Campaign staff has credit cards that are paid by campaign. Campaign loses. You don't let ANYONE run around with credit cards they no longer need. Seriously? They can't afford a cab ride home and then submit an expense voucher for $25? Whether it is one bad apple or someone simply loses their card, the campaign doesn't need to be explaining to the FEC that sudden $4,396 charge to some mail order company. I'm sure Obama's camp did the same thing. If they didn't - I fear for what happens over the next four years with the country's money.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:00 PM EST

                      Didi, You're a Dodo. President Obama has been given a Mulligan, to borrow a golfing term. A do over. When you democrats marched into Washington four years ago he felt he had a mandate to do what ever he wanted, and for two years, although Republicans could only slow him down, he did do what ever he wanted. I said it after the last election, Obama owns this economy because the real economic negatives began shortly before he was elected when it appeared McCain couldn't stop him. Now, he really owns it. No more blaming Bush. If one party is unwilling to budge it is no longer considered a negotiation, it is a stalemate. If one side dictates all the terms of a negotiation and won't consider any point from the other side that is no longer a negotiation, that is an unconditional surrender. Bipartisanship requires both parties to compromise. I have NEVER seen that with Democrats,especially not in the last 20 years. I want fiscal responsibility in Washington. Nothing more. Call me a Tea party activist, but know that I have no affiliation with them. Call me a Republican, but know I also have no affiliation with them. Call me an Evangelical or Right to Lifer, but know I also have no affiliation with them. I'm just a white guy who has played by the rules his entire life who finds himself in what were supposed to be his high income,golden years of his life with no job, no prospects, and no hope. Sucks to be me, but when the government figures out that preferential treatment to all groups but mine does not equalize the assumed disparity that exists in our society, watch out for the whiplash.

                      Oh, and in case you inferred some sort of racial or sexist undertone to what I wrote, consider this. > 90%, >80%, > 60% of Blacks,Latinos and Asians respectively voted for Obama. For women, the vote also did not follow the overall national trend with greater than 55% going to Obama. I vote for a cause not a race. I vote for fiscal responsibility.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST

                      Oh, I've heard of it; but it seems Republicans seem to consistently have issues with credit cards. From the RNC charges of prostitutes in Vegas, to unnecessary spending in Hawaii to so many of them (looking at Rubio for the moment) who accidently slapped down the wrong card for personal expenses and once caught - reimbursed.

                      Trust but verify, while wise - shouldn't include before you've checked out of the hotel you barely got to sleep in because the 'family' refused to be prepared for a concession. Cancel them at say, the 24 hours later marker.

                      And can I GIGGLE at the irony of the fiscally prudent meme given the hundreds of millions of dollars WASTED by Rove and others on this election?

                      okay, thanks.

                      • 8 votes
                      #13.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:29 PM EST

                      I remember stories similar to this regarding the McCain campaign - workers, credit cards, running up bills after their loss. I suppose any campaign cuts off the credit just as soon as possible.

                        #13.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST
                        Reply

                        All you republacants need to stop whining you lost get over it the rest of the country is not as stupid as you thought they were. Nice touch killing the credit cards so your campaign works cant even get back home. What a DICK!

                        • 18 votes
                        Reply#14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:52 PM EST

                        We need to stop whining, I do believe that The liberals need to stop what they are doing and start working on fixing this country. But, they are to afraid that the people will find out the truth and realize they made a mistake. We need to stop whining? I think the gloating needs to stop, ITS OVER, GET OVER IT. It was a presidential election not a fn football game. Move on

                          #14.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:57 PM EST

                          Yep, that is exactly what it is............a Presidential election, and it's much more serious and people have a right to feel bad, and as for getting 'over it'? No, I, for one, am not going to 'get over it', it is much too serious to 'get over'. Move on?, Yes, but Hell No, on getting 'over it'! Far too many people do just that.....they forget what happened last week, and one decent thing happens, and they don't remember "Pearl Harbor"!! I will work as hard as I can, do see that this country doesn't follow this muslim socialist to the socialism graveyard.

                          • 3 votes
                          #14.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:41 PM EST

                          I can see it now, there is Keith from Ct in his office at work. Sales are down a little so he needs to let a few people go:

                          "Here Sally, thank you for your years of service. I am going to let you keep the company credit card for a little while. Have a nice day and I hope you find other work soon."

                          Keith doesn't feel bad, because he knows that Sally can collect unemployment indefinitely and in Keith's mind, unemployment is just as good as having a job, if not better! He is not worried about Sally using the credit card, because, well, heck, it's not his money, it is the "Company's".

                          Maybe my whole premise is wrong, it hinges on the fact that Keith has a job and could possibly be a manager of other people. Hmmm, I wonder.....

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:11 PM EST

                          The problem with Republicans isn't Mitt Romney. Of all your candidates, who would have done better --- Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Newt, Pizza Man -- who?? The problem is your ideas. They stink. You haven't had a new economic plan for 35 years. Supply side economics doesn't work. Never has. Then you managed to anger every demographic except old, white men. You angered young people, Hispanics, blacks, women, -- you name the group -- you probably said something nasty about them. What you don't seem to get is old, white, high school educated men are a minority today. I'm one of them and we're dying off. Rush may have been a big hitter in the 1980s but that was 30 years ago. Today he's just an old man preaching to the converted. Fox news preaches to the same people.

                          Republicans -- if you want to stick around, you better get some new faces and some new ideas. If not -- you may go the way of the Whig Party of the 19th century.

                          • 12 votes
                          #14.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:36 PM EST

                          I think Newt would. He was going to build a real moon base.

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.5 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:26 PM EST

                          Keith- your rigth American's are not as dumb as I thought they were. 50% proved they were dumber. I know you are a tolerent, open minded lefty so go ahead. Attack! Feel free to say any snarky thing you would like. I'll consider the source and my day will be just as good when your done :)

                            #14.6 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:11 AM EST
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                            F6Zman... really?

                            This is what you've got? "Communist"?

                            Spewing some hate for women and anybody of color too? Tell me you're goofing on this board and you've taken this up as a role you're playing at the keyboard. You can't be serious, right? Go Goth next time, or maybe National Socialist German from the late 30's. You'll wear it well.

                            Say goodbye to the tag. I'm thinking the good people who have a day-to-day stake in the board are going to kick your plug outa' the wall.

                            • 16 votes
                            Reply#15 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST

                            Jimmy, that made me laugh; but really - we aren't that powerful. and certainly not on First Read - the only time people are unplugged is when they are Re-Registers of BANNED posters.

                            Pretty much anything goes over here; but that!

                            • 3 votes
                            #15.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:34 PM EST

                            F6Zman .... will just fade away like Mittens ... the more he protests the better it feels that Obama won ! f6z makes me do the happy dance ....

                            • 1 vote
                            #15.2 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST
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                            Stupid liberal websites, What were they supposed to do, Go back to work, It was over, he lost, they go home, Job done.... and this is big headlines. You successfully blinded a lot of people with headlines like this for over a year, between you and Cnn and they Huffington posts lies, twisted headlines and just plain ole onesided crap. Now that it is over. Let it go, There are a lot of more important issues to tend too that Romney or the Republicans. Move on, not backward.. Oh wait, I forgot, we need to sidetrack the people so they dont realize what is really going on with the ECONOMY, and Sandy and the fact that FEMA pulled out and is not there helping the people anymore since election night, But, then why help, the people already voted there

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#16 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:55 PM EST

                            You, my friend, are on the right track. So many stupid people, so little time left to correct one HUGE mistake.

                            • 1 vote
                            #16.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:44 PM EST

                            stupid liberals, that is an oxymoron; progressive thinking, better yet thinkers; let's see: Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Eli Whitney, Albert Einstein, Neil Armstrong, Steve Jobbs, Louis Pasteur, etc. get the idea(s)....exactly.

                            • 4 votes
                            #16.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST

                            Wow, he cut off the credit cards that quickly so that they couldn't even pay their cab fare. Says a lot about how much he trusted the staff and why he's not President today...

                            • 8 votes
                            #16.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:20 PM EST
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                            Kudos to the Romney campaign for shutting down the credit cards! It's called being responsible with other peoples money. A very foreign concept to a liberal, I guess. If we could only get the Obama gang to cut up their credit cards.....

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#17 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:58 PM EST

                            I believe that Willard said something like... "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

                            • 14 votes
                            #17.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:05 PM EST

                            Fiscally responsible??

                            It would have been no less fiscally responsible to have waited until the morning to shut down the credit cards. In fact, since votes are still being counted in Florida, the election isn't even officially over.

                            It would have been no less fiscally responsible to have informed everyone that the credit cards would stop working so they would be prepared to make their own travel plans.

                            It would have been no less fiscally responsible to simply pre-arrange to pay for everyone's last taxi ride knowing the credit cards would be shut down.

                            That is the difference between "fiscally responsible" and "mean spirited". Romney and the Republican Right have repeatedly demonstrated that they simply do not understand the difference between the two.

                            And that is why they lost.

                            • 12 votes
                            #17.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:03 PM EST
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                            Romneyland, Still calling names huh MSNBC. act mature

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#18 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:59 PM EST

                            How could any braindead, pathetic radical right wing cracked teanut dunce vote for this guy.

                            The repukes also want to ban invitro fertilization. Yet 3 of Willardo's children had this done to produce children. Now, he wants to outlaw it to get the votes of the evangelical crazies. He will lie and do anything to win. Then the evangelicals will probably get screwed if he is elected. His campaign manager called him an Etch a Sketch player. If he was elected you could not hold him to anything he promised.

                            His true allegiance is to the criminal corporate masters who are bankrolling his campaign so they get regulations eased to enable them to rob and steal from us once again as was done under Bush Bin Lyin and his criminal gang led by President Cheney.

                            • 11 votes
                            Reply#19 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:07 PM EST

                            Wow, the perfect picture of obammy! You, are very perceptive!

                            • 1 vote
                            #19.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:46 PM EST

                            Sugarfoot1 - Your nurse is looking for you. She wants you to come back to your room and take your meds.

                            • 4 votes
                            #19.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:51 PM EST

                            Jim I'm so glad you are a tolerent, open minded liberal.. YOu would be too good, and too above low brow acts like personal attacks and name calling. Oh wait elections over.. you can stop pretending now. "Criminal Corporate Masters" really. Does this sound any thing like the 60s and 70s "its the man" mantra "blame it on the man" Is Obama Poor? I didn't get that memo, Think he's sitten on a nice pension. He's gotta be loving those dinners with Clooney and Oprah. You think what...that he's gonna do anything to piss off the "criminal Corporate Masters" lol! I think he knows where his bread is buttered. He sure as hell isn't going to do anything to piss of the powers that be in the corporate world, certainly not the enterainment business.

                              #19.3 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:22 AM EST
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                              Clueless Lyin Willardo should not have even been running for president. But for a lyin moron, talk is cheap. This clueless moron has no idea how to fix anything. This criminal repuke bankupts companies and loses jobs. What a joke. The nuts that follow him actually believe that he is going to create 12 million new jobs and these dopes believe him. He does not have to tell them how, that does not matter.

                              Clueless Lyin Willardo is known as the slapped ass Mexican Mormon Moron for good reason. This complete dunce made himself look even more ignorant than he already is by stating in a campaign clip that if he ever overpaid his taxes, he does not deserve to be your president. Well this repuke dunce overpaid his 2011 taxes by $3,000 to make it look like he was paying a higher tax rate-which he can recover after the election. He has up to 3 years to refile an amended return. Only a pathetic, psychotic, braindead radical right wing cracked teanut dope will vote for him.

                              Now we have to concentrate on getting rid of the rest of the cracked teanuts and Jesus freaks that are left in congress.

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#20 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:08 PM EST

                              I'm no fan of Romney but he was not born in Mexico - his father was. The family (and many others) left Utah because of laws against polygamy. Later, the Romney family, along with other Mormon families, left Mexico because of unrest - our country made special laws to bring these Mormons back - even gave them special federal aid.

                              • 2 votes
                              #20.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 10:48 PM EST

                              ..... even the mormons didnt like or vote for mitt .... there was more mormons who voted for bush than voted for mitt ... check it out .. that outta tell mitt something !!!!!!!!!!!! ya think ?

                              • 1 vote
                              #20.2 - Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST
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                              romney needs to go to that offshore stash , pick up a few bucks , and retire in his true country , '' MEHICO ''.

                              • 11 votes
                              Reply#21 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST

                              "MEHICO" racist much.

                                #21.1 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 12:24 AM EST
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                                GOOD BYE CAPITAL COMMUNISM. It is now time to STOP FLEECING and PUT BACK INTO the AMERICAN DREAM.

                                NO ENTITLEMENTS FOR THIS GONG SHOW FAKE. SORRY get a JOB at minimum wage then come back and CAMPAIGN you SLUG.

                                I am "REALLY HURTING NOW". I must find a JOB !!!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#22 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST

                                I wish I could quote Millard Fillmore: “An honorable defeat is better than a
                                dishonorable victory.” …….Oh my, I just did! Are the Republicans at Fox
                                listening?

                                • 9 votes
                                Reply#23 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:10 PM EST

                                I think that after this election, America has to get used to the fact that we are no longer the world's last remaining super power. We voted against any hope of trying to resuscitate this role and have handed the reigns over to China on an "elected" silver platter....I wish them luck and God help the United States of America!

                                • 4 votes
                                Reply#24 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:11 PM EST

                                Who cares about Super Power. We should be attempting to build an American Dream Society for the betterment of all American Citizens. We are not Utopia so let us try to build it here in the U.S.A.

                                • 5 votes
                                #24.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:59 PM EST

                                HopeisGone; Wow, are you deluted. China leads the world in only one thing, making crap. They cannot even produce a competitive automobile. They recently had their first manned space flight. Their only a few decades behind us. Most of Chinas population is uneducated and lives in poverty. China is not the threat Fox news makes them out to be. Break out of that bubble you live in.

                                • 8 votes
                                #24.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 5:03 PM EST

                                Hope - why don't you go to China for a week and see for yourself. Go to Hong Kong, much of it is english speaking and not as destitute as the vast majority of the rest of the country. If you do, you will see what Howitzer means. Stop listening to Fox and start looking with your own eyes, man!

                                • 6 votes
                                #24.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 6:31 PM EST
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                                In two years we have to dump the rest of the repuke obstructionist freakis in congress. I can't believe that braindead nuts that voted Michelle (never tells the truth) Bachmann back in.

                                • 18 votes
                                Reply#25 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:12 PM EST
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                                Hey Jim R. for the next two years the republicans will stay with our principals and not cave in to you liberal wing nut idiots. In two years the country will vote out the dem senate followed by a strong conservative leader. It will be clear in a few months what a huge mistake was made reelecting obama. Don't be surprised if is brought to light that there was unprecedented voter fraud electing this president.

                                • 2 votes
                                #25.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:29 PM EST

                                Of course CT. Was wondering when you would toss your excuses out there. You are right on cue. Just as predicted. See that's the thing with you teapubs, you are so predictable it's easy to stay many steps ahead of you. Don't change a thing! It's working well for you. LMAO

                                • 8 votes
                                #25.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:59 PM EST

                                The teaturds voted for Bachmann because she promised them that she will make sure Obama doesn't get elected for a 3rd term. Mitch McConnell is already promising his voters that he would make Obama a 2 term president!...And people ask me why I left the GOP.... :)

                                • 3 votes
                                #25.3 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 1:28 AM EST
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