First Thoughts: Obama's demographic edge

Kevin Lamarque / Reuters

Campaigning with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, voting and election results.

Obama’s demographic edge… And the GOP’s demographic dilemma… Breaking down last night’s results… Do status-quo election results = status-quo governing?... Obama’s swing-county swagger…His tactical dominance…  And lots of history was made last night. 

*** Obama's demographic edge: Yes, the auto bailout mattered in Ohio. Sure, Hurricane Sandy helped the president. And, yes, the economy was the No. 1 issue. But make no mistake: What happened last night was a demographic time bomb that had been ticking and that blew up in GOP faces. As the Obama campaign had assumed more than a year ago, the white portion of the electorate dropped to 72%, and the president won just 39% of that vote. But he carried a whopping 93% of black voters (representing 13% of the electorate), 71% of Latinos (representing 10%), and also 73% of Asians (3%). What’s more, despite all the predictions that youth turnout would be down, voters 18-29 made up 19% of last night’s voting population -- up from 18% four years ago -- and President Obama took 60% from that group. The trend also played out in the key battleground states: The president won about 70% of the Latino vote in Colorado and Nevada, and he won 60% of it in Florida (a high number given the state’s large GOP-leaning Cuban-American population). On Monday, we wrote that demography could determine destiny. And that’s exactly what happened. While the campaign’s turnout operation deserves all the credit for getting these voters to the polls, the most significant event of this presidential contest might very well have been the 2010 census. 

*** And the GOP’s demographic dilemma: Obama’s demographic edge creates this dilemma for the Republican Party: It can no longer rely on white voters to win national elections anymore, especially in presidential cycles. Indeed, according to the exit poll, 89% of all votes Mitt Romney won last night came from whites (compared with 56% for Obama). So the Republicans are maximizing their share with white voters; they just aren’t getting the rest. And come 2016, the white portion of the electorate will probably drop another couple of points to 70%. Politico’s Martin puts it this way: “Battling a wheezing economy and a deeply motivated opposition, Obama still managed to retain much of his 2008 map because of the GOP’s deficiencies with the voters who are changing the political face of once conservative-leaning Virginia, Florida, Colorado and Nevada. Republicans face a crisis: the country is growing less white and their coalition has become more white in recent years. In 2004, George W. Bush won [about 40 percent] of Hispanics. Four years later, John McCain, the author of an immigration reform bill, took 31 percent of Hispanics. And this year, Romney captured only 27 percent of Hispanics.” 

NBC's Chuck Todd discusses how Florida may be used as a model for the rest of the country to show how changes in demographics, particularly an influx of Hispanic voters in key counties, affected the outcome of the election.

*** Hard for the GOP just to turn to the Midwest: Now Republicans might argue, “Look, we can win back the Midwest -- Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin.” Yet those account for 34 electoral votes. But the Sun Belt states where Obama campaigned and which have more diverse populations (Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia) have a total of 57 electoral votes. And then there are Arizona, Georgia, and Texas. Do those states come into play in 2016? What about 2020? Come 2016, you could argue that Arizona and Georgia become for Democrats what Michigan, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania are for Republicans -- just slightly out of reach.

*** Last night’s results: The morning after, here are the results (so far) from last night: Obama holds 303 electoral votes and Romney 206. (NBC News has yet to call Florida and its 29 electoral votes, but Obama leads there 50%-49%.) In the popular vote, it’s Obama 50%, Romney 48%. Also, Democrats have held on to their Senate majority and might add to it -- with undecided races in Montana (where Democratic incumbent Jon Tester leads 48%-48% with 77% in) and North Dakota (where Democrat Heidi Heitkamp is ahead by about 3,000 voters with 93% in). But Republicans held on to control of the House, holding 237 seats vs. 197 for the Democrats, plus-minus four seats. 

President Obama and former governor Mitt Romney both spent billions of dollars and logged thousands of miles on the campaign trail, and it all culminated in one very dramatic election night. Take a look back at the long road that led to the Presidential election.

*** Does status-quo control = status-quo governing? So in the end, we got a status-quo result -- with Obama holding on to the White House, Democrats keeping control of the Senate, and Republicans maintaining their grip on the House. But here’s the question with the “fiscal cliff” negotiations coming up: Will the governing be status quo, too? Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell released this statement last night: “To the extent [Obama] wants to move to the political center, which is where the work gets done in a divided government, we’ll be there to meet him half way. That begins by proposing a way for both parties to work together in avoiding the ‘fiscal cliff’ without harming a weak and fragile economy, and when that is behind us work with us to reform the tax code and our broken entitlement system.” And House Speaker John Boehner makes a statement on the “fiscal cliff” negotiations at 3:30 pm ET. But who holds the mandate here? The GOP? Or a president who waged a national campaign on raising taxes for the wealthy, and who won? And here’s another question: Do Boehner and McConnell take advantage of the lame duck to compromise? 

*** Obama’s swing-county swagger: Turning back to last night’s presidential contest, Obama beat Romney in almost all of the swing counties (won by Bush in ’04 but by Obama in ’08). Indeed, Obama won three of four swing counties in Florida (Hillsborough, Pinellas, Osceola), four of six in Ohio (Hamilton, Wood, Ottawa, Sandusky), 11 of 14 in Virginia (including Loudon, Prince William, and Henrico), and all six in Colorado (including Jefferson, Arapahoe, and Larimer). And despite losing North Carolina, Obama may have proved that the state is changing, becoming more “Mid-Atlantic” but not quite all there, as Charlie Cook has said. Obama won nine of 13 swing counties in the Tar Heel State (including the large counties of Wake, Forsyth, Cumberland, and Buncombe).

*** And his tactical dominance: But it was more than winning the swing counties for Obama; it was tactical dominance. Romney made inroads all across the country from previous GOP performance. What happened, however, was that the Obama campaign exploited the census and changed the margins. The best example of this was in Florida.

*** Making history: Finally, it was an historic-making election. With Obama’s re-election, we now have the first time since Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe that Americans have elected three two-term presidents in a row… Tammy Baldwin will become the Senate’s first openly gay member… The Senate will have at least 19 female members -- the most ever -- and there’s a chance that number could increase to 20 if Heitkamp wins… Maryland and Maine became the first states to approve of gay marriage at the ballot box… And initiatives to legalize marijuana passed in Colorado and Washington state. 

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P.T. Barnum was right. There's a sucker born every minute. The dumb downed masses have spoken.

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Reply#598 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 8:59 PM EST

You are talking abut the voters who believe in evolution and science? The one's that kicked your insane & stupid candidates out of office last night.

    #598.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:02 PM EST

    Kind of crazy that the dumb will now dictate to the smart. Have you seen the movie idiocrasy?

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    #598.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:03 PM EST

    Right... The party of Stupid believes that anyone who thinks Adam & Eve didn't ride a dinosaur to Church every Sunday is a moron!

      #598.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST

      you are funny ... what a loser.

        #598.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST
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        4 years of Sheik Hussein Ostumbler as like Chinese water torture. Now comes the tsunumi.

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        Reply#599 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:01 PM EST

        The Big Bucks Bush Boys Got Burned On Their Investment -- They Invested In And Bought Romney, Ryan & Old

        Republican Ideals -- Your World Of 1%ers -- Where Women Were Second Class Citizens & Minorities Were Third

        Class Citizens -- Sorry But No No No -- You Just Don't Get It Or Will Ever Get It -- All Americans Are Equals

        Regardless Of Who Or What They Are -- Regardless Of Race - Creed - Color - Gender - Rich - Mid Class - Poor --

        100%, 99%, 47% -- What Ever -- We Are Your Equal As Americans -- 1 Vote Each Just Like You Big Buck Boys!

        If You Hard Core Stone Walling Folks Don't Get With The Program -- Then You'll Go South Just Like Your

        Investment Went In Romney And Ryan! Your Choice -- Win With The What Americans Have Voted For And Are

        Telling You -- Not Once But Twice Now Or You Will Continue To Lose, Lose And Lose And Fade Away In To History!

        The Republican Party Existed In Name Only Now -- Anyone With Any Smarts Among You Knows This Fact --

        They Will Jump Ship -- It's Called Survival -- They Know Their Jobs Are Now On The Line -- And They Know They

        Have A Limited Life Expectancy If They Don't Get With The Program That The Americans Voted For And Wants!

        You Lost One Time -- And Now-- Your Two Time Losers -- No Future Here For Republicans -- And A Third

        Time As Loser Will Finish You Off And You'll Be Gone! Americans Don't Like Loser, Don't Want Loser, And Sure As

        Hell Don't Vote For Losers!

        Never Bet Against America & Americans!

        You Bet Twice Against Us -- You Lost TWICE Against Us!

          Reply#600 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:03 PM EST

          Bush wan not running. Unless I missed something.

          • 1 vote
          #600.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST

          Ahh but remember.. we were supposed to pretend that BUSH never happened

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          #600.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST
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          Sorry Chuck, I'm not really buying the demographics argument entirely. Do you really think it was a greater number Hispanics that cost Romney Wisconsin, for example? As your own article shows the Republicans used to win a much greater share of the Hispanic vote anyway. I think that the real issue is that people just don't trust the Republicans as much as they once did.

          I am a white man and I voted Obama. The Republicans these days are unscrupulous. I don't want to elect people who are out to mislead.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#601 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST

          You want to know who the big losers are last night? Besides the Koch Bros, that is... FOX News watchers. FOX News had every one of them moron viewers of theirs believing that this election was going to be a Romney landslide. The bad news came as a total surprise to those morons!

          • 1 vote
          Reply#602 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:06 PM EST

          I call what happened last nite, "putting the final nail in the coffin". The President knew that florida would be a problem, so what did he do?, he took Florida out of the equation, if Florida was in the picture this election would not be over.

            Reply#603 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST

            Mark

            I don't want to elect people who are out to mislead.

            You just did!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#604 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST

            emm hmmm.

            The new mitt romney meal...

            I would like to order this, no, I am going to order this, but I really should order that, 1 week later, I never ordered this.

            Lying and flip flopping

            • 1 vote
            #604.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:13 PM EST
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            Congratulations US.

            You just earned a merit badge in grave digging.

            (your own)

            • 1 vote
            Reply#605 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST

            Yawn...if you are from America, that's pathetic. If you are not from America. Save it.

            • 2 votes
            #605.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:12 PM EST

            Oh, I am from America.

            But this morning I woke up on another planet.

            The planet I come from had sense and knowledge.

            And would have NEVER re-elected a natural disaster.

            • 2 votes
            #605.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:18 PM EST

            You're right, we did not elect BUSH 3 :)

            Remember, if you don't like America, you can move to another country. We'll help you pack.

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            #605.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST
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            Eulogy for America

            But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 2 Timothy 3:1-4

            For

            more than 50 years I have been active in the political process in the US. I did so because I recognized that we were unique in the history of mankind. Driven by a vision of men who saw us as an opportunity to establish a Godly nation that would uniquely be controlled by the people living in liberty. A nation that recognized that our rights come from God, not man. That government is instituted to secure/protect those God given rights.

            I have watched as our nation over the past 100 years has “progressively” abandoned those principles and surrendered our liberties in exchange for the lure of collectivism and the cheap promise of equality through theft from others.

            Despite the prophetic promise that the last years of mankind would become worse instead of better, it's the nature of an optimistic people to see a next period of blessing and better days instead of things growing worse. I have long expected that the American people will always choose liberty over the security of a totalitarian state. It appears I no longer live in that America. The American people are now such that sexual perversion, murder of innocent children, government control over your life, and legalized government theft are positive traits rather than wrongs to be condemned and avoided.

            This disabled Veteran sees yesterday's election results and I have given up on my country to be the shining city on a hill that glorifies God and lives in individual liberty for all people. One election can be an anomaly, two is a trend. I weep for my children, grandchildren, and any generations that may follow. They will never know what it means to live in real freedom and in a society that values living in a way that honors God.

            America is dead, may she rest in peace.

            • 1 vote
            #606 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:13 PM EST

            America is NOT Dead! You brain is... But not America.

            • 1 vote
            #606.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:15 PM EST

            oh poor larry... everything we have traded msgs over the last few months has come true hasn't it.

            America REJECTED the religious tyranny put forward by the GOP didn't they.

            America REJECTED the GOP war on women's rights to CHOOSE

            America REJECTED the obtuse religious beliefs that marriage is solely between a man and a woman.

            America REJECTED putting GOD in the constitution and maintains separation of CHURCH from State.

            America RE-HIRED PRESIDENT OBAMA and next year, SCOTUS WILL RULE in Favor of equal marriage.

            Now, isn't it time you developed tolerance and acceptance? Isn't it really time to COMPROMISE. The church will continue to see its numbers decline if they do not come into this century.

            • 1 vote
            #606.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:15 PM EST

            America rejected liberty, morality, and the Constitution

            America is not my country and Obama is not my president. I'm busy buying land and setting up offshore accounts for my grandchildren because they certainly won't know freedom in the US

            • 1 vote
            #606.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:19 PM EST

            If America is not your country... LEAVE! NOW! Take your pathetic grandchildren with you!

            • 1 vote
            #606.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:20 PM EST

            America has gone insane.

            And Larry is 100% correct.

            We have devolved into a herd of sheep.

            At least most of you have.

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            #606.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:20 PM EST

            Says the sheep that was worshiping Romney and obeying everything FOX News told him to do, and thinking only those thoughts that Rush Limbaugh told him to think.

              #606.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:22 PM EST

              America is not Obama's country either.

              Someone needs to leave.

              But not Larry or myself.

              • 1 vote
              #606.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:25 PM EST

              Larry is already packing his bags. You can leave too. No one here will miss you or your ignorant insanity about how rapists are the good guys and women who get raped are all sluts who fantasize about it.

                #606.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST

                So OICY are you military veteran? Are you a disabled Vet? I am. My family has served in every generation for over 250 years.

                  #606.9 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST

                  no one ever made the idiotic statements you are claiming about conservatives. Like most liberals including your occupier in the White House, you are incapable of truth.

                    #606.10 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:29 PM EST

                    You're a liar! BTW... I already gave. My father died in Vietnam. But if you want me to, I can kick your family's ass right out of this country that you hate so much!

                      #606.11 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:29 PM EST

                      Larry Robinson-1323081& Viewer_Ready

                      Denial is the first stage.. and you know what comes next. America kept LIBERTY in line with the United States Constitution and our founding fathers. You can't change the wave of freedom and equal rights against RELIGIOUS Tyranny and stupidity.

                      I strongly suggest you get on board, because there is nothing you can do about it. in 4 years, the GOP will lose its strong hold in Arizona, Texas, and Georgia.. they will go democrat, and from there on.....

                      Larry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUspfpmXWdU&feature=related THIS IS AMERICA.. Notice there's not one CHURCH...

                      • 1 vote
                      #606.12 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:29 PM EST

                      Larry, you're a liar.

                      • 1 vote
                      #606.13 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST

                      I'm a veteran Larry. And as one vet to another I'm here to tell you that you can take your traitorous ass and your progeny and get the Hell out of my country RIGHT THE PHUCK NOW as far as I'm concerned and never darken our shores with your whiny,self pitying, sanctimonious BS again.

                      Good riddance.

                      • 2 votes
                      #606.14 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:35 PM EST

                      FU Kennyw- are you another America hating leftist. You and your kind are the traitors to our country.

                      At 63 and disabled I'll still whip any liberal traitors.

                        #606.15 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:37 PM EST

                        let me remind you It's About Time- I'm not a Republican. I've been a libertarian for over 40 years since the marxist Richard Nixon.

                          #606.16 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:38 PM EST

                          Wonderful... The Dip@!$%# that is threatening to leave America and is shipping all his money out of the country as we speak is calling someone else an America hater.

                            #606.17 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:39 PM EST

                            OICY= you haven't given anything. Your father gave, but it sounds like you're just another typical marxist coward.

                              #606.18 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:40 PM EST

                              Larry... Just a few posts ago... You said... "This is not my country." Quit pretending you love America and leave today!

                                #606.19 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST

                                OICY

                                Not a nice thing to say about Larry's grandchildren. It isn't their fault that they have a grandfather that's enamored with the term "Marxist".

                                  #606.20 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST

                                  Hey... Phagot... Post your address!

                                    #606.21 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST

                                    Actually Larry what you are is a hateful,spiteful POS. You were before Obama was President and you will be after his administration ends.

                                    Just get the Hell out if you're going,you cowardly deserter.

                                    Not wasting any more words on a POS whom I wouldn't even waste my piss on,were he on fire.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #606.22 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:45 PM EST

                                    Larry Robinson-1323081

                                    That's cool to Larry. I understand your belief system and know why you feel the way you do. It's never been wrong to me for you to have the religious beliefs that you have either. It's just wrong to enforce those on others in our secular government. We'll always probably agree to disagree, but I would still strongly encourage you to embrace the change that is coming. It will happen, and you know it.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #606.23 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:46 PM EST

                                    It's about time for our own "dead-enders" to get with the program. America isn't going to stop and wait for them to come around, we just keep moving toward the future, and quickly too. Women and black people and people with Latino surnames get to vote, too, and we just saw what they are able to do when they want to (and thanks for that, by the way.)

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #606.24 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:44 PM EST
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                                    Didn't you just love FOX News last night? Karl Rove running around crying "Romney really won... Obama really lost... We need another election... now... Romney really won... It isn't over yet... "

                                    Pretty Pathetic... Even for FOX News!

                                      Reply#607 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:17 PM EST

                                      Well Hell's Bell's OICY,if you had just bilked a few thousand people out of hundreds of millions of dollars for promising a result that you didn't even come close to delivering you'd probably freak out to.

                                      My comment in one of the threads here last night while I was watching Turd Blossom's meltdown was something like this...

                                      Obama wins. Excellent!!!

                                      America wins. Studpendous!!!

                                      Karl Rove offs himself on live TV (please,please,please...). Priceless!!!

                                      That would have truly been "Must See TV".

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #607.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST

                                      Karl Rove going insane on live TV was great entertainment the whole family could enjoy.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #607.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST

                                      Have you listened to that mindless midget Dick Morris making ubiquitous personal predictions about the "Romney landslide" that was coming, for weeks leading up to the election?

                                      Of course, he knows that Fixed News will keep him on, telling their viewers what they want to hear, no matter how far out of reality this schmuck is. No self-respecting news organization would keep this charlatan on the payroll, of course.

                                      Give us some more of your brilliant insights, Dick. They are priceless!

                                        #607.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:59 PM EST
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                                        Hate mongers got slapped in their faces by reality. Now they will not return to the planet. They love to hate too much to live in reality on the Earth.

                                        It's mental.

                                        Planet Fox, we have your nuts.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#608 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:23 PM EST

                                        so sad.

                                          Reply#609 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:23 PM EST

                                          are you kidding. AMERICA WON

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #609.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:32 PM EST

                                          I'm just glad we re-elected the grownup in the room.

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                                          #609.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST
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                                          O I C Y is Captain Queeq of the movie The Cain Mutiny. The only difference being, while totally insane, Queeg had a brain,

                                            Reply#610 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST

                                            Says the brain dead loser who thinks women enjoy being raped!

                                              #610.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:29 PM EST

                                              Reaffirmation of my point. Thanks.

                                                #610.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST

                                                I'm not the one who thinks planet earth is only 6000 years old. That's you and the idiot your party put in charge of the house Science Committee. You must be so proud knowing that the GOP represents your kind of thinking so perfectly.

                                                  #610.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:34 PM EST
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                                                  It has nothing to do with "hate mongers".

                                                  It has everything to do with our children's future.

                                                  Watch your stock market (which drives main street).

                                                  You will be very ashamed of what you did to your own country very soon.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  Reply#611 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST

                                                  Seriously? Did you just get here yesterday? I saw what happened to my 401(k) when Bush was President and I saw it finally come back while Obama worked on fixing things. We still have a ways to go but you really shouldn't use the stock market ploy when you're talking to people who have an IQ over room temperature.

                                                    #611.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST
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                                                    Oh my, now Trump is revolting. Karl's head blew up, or was it just the bubble gum in his neck. Fox News is sure that Romney won. Rush is drugging out and muttering words like, "The sluts are coming". "Get that black man off my shoulder". "Mother!"

                                                    It's a weird world in the GOP Asylum. "If Romney is the nominee, we will lose," said Ann the Streetwalker.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#612 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST

                                                    And the funny thing is... the republicans think this is normal behavior. It makes sense... They're all acting this way today.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #612.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:36 PM EST
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                                                    Who are the haters here?

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    Reply#613 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST

                                                    If you are lucky enough to get into the end zone, try to act like you have been there before.

                                                      Reply#614 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:35 PM EST

                                                      Said the man whose party has lost the popular vote in five of the last six elections. Screw it, I'm gloating.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #614.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:53 PM EST
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                                                      "If I run for election, the female body has ways to shut the whole thing down", said Todd.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#615 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:39 PM EST

                                                      Let's see now. In dumbocrap heaven NYC 10 days after the storm a 6 hr wait for gasoline, no heating oil, looting in S.I., Coney Island and the Rockaways. With Sheik Hussein in charge soon to be exported to the rest of the country. Foward.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#616 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:39 PM EST

                                                      If everyone had electric cars, there would be no gas lines. If the right would get off their buts and approve some infrastructure updates, there would be less problems when a disaster hits. Lets build America and stop getting into wars and nation building abroad.

                                                        #616.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST
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                                                        What you jubilant liberals do not understand is that you have just signed a death certificate for America.

                                                        IF, IF, we can survive for four more years there will not be a repeat of this stupidity.

                                                        We might need CPR and defibrillators, but we WILL get America back on track.

                                                        And it will NOT be liberals in charge next time.

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        Reply#617 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST

                                                        They why don't you MOVE to another country? Follow ROmney's advice... self deport

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                                                        #617.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:47 PM EST

                                                        veiwer - don't you get it? Your party is becoming a demographic dinosaur. There WILL be liberals in charge next time, and the time after that, and so on.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #617.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:56 PM EST

                                                        And it will NOT be liberals in charge next time.

                                                        ...uummmm...isn't that EXACTLY what y'all were saying before the election?

                                                        LOL Go take your chair out of the tree.

                                                          #617.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:37 PM EST

                                                          Please LEAVE, we really don't need you and your racist nay-saying!

                                                            #617.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:34 PM EST
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                                                            Liberals are as much my enemy as Al Qaeda. Liberalism must be wiped off the face of the earth if there is any chance for people to live in freedom.

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            Reply#618 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:42 PM EST

                                                            So grab your gun and shoot up a pre-school playground. Isn't that what people like you do when they start hating America as much as you do?

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #618.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:44 PM EST

                                                            I guess since you or no one in your family ever had the guts to face Al Qaeda... Liberals don't have anything to worry about from you! But I sure wouldn't want to be in a movie theater in your neighborhood tonight.

                                                              #618.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:46 PM EST

                                                              Wrong, my number 3 son was in the first Marine unit to cross into Baghdad.

                                                              No, it's liberals that murder innocent babies.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #618.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:49 PM EST

                                                              Larry Robinson

                                                              We Thank Your #3 Son For His Service To His Country!!!!!!!!!!

                                                              Hoo Yah

                                                              But No Thanks To Your Concepts On Liberals!

                                                              Your A Little Too Liberal Even For Me With This Stuff:

                                                              Liberals=Al Qaeda! & Liberals=Baby Killers!

                                                              I'd Say I'm A Liberal And It's Kept Me Alive So I

                                                              Could Continue To Train Our Folks -- Folks Like Your Son

                                                              -- So They Can Stay Alive And Not Come Home In A Body Bag!

                                                              USN Vet --- Vietnam & Middle East & &

                                                              Have A Good Day My Friend!

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                                                              #618.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST

                                                              Thank your son for his service for me, I have a daughter who just joined up. Now I have to ask, since there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq, was your son's unit confused when they got to Baghdad?

                                                                #618.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:35 PM EST

                                                                there were 1000's of Al Qaeda in Iraq and we took out Saddam Hussein who paid out over 35 million dollars to the families of jihadists as a reward for killing Americans and Jews

                                                                  #618.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:02 PM EST

                                                                  Larry is hallucinating liberally.

                                                                    #618.7 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:04 PM EST

                                                                    hallucinate on the facts

                                                                    Saddam Hussein paid out over 35 million dollars to Arab jihadists for killing Jews and Americans. The following Americans were killed by those who took Saddam's blood money. Leaving aside all other reasons, this alone was sufficient reason for the US to take out Saddam Hussein

                                                                    According to employees of the Iraqi Central Bank and the Rafidain Bank, the former Iraqi ambassador to Jordan, Sabah Yassen, withdrew money from the accounts to make payments ranging from $15,000 to $25,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, Hyde said.

                                                                    Palestinians have said Saddam paid more than $35 million to families of Palestinians killed or wounded in the conflict with Israel that began in September 2000.

                                                                    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-656284.html

                                                                    November 4, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Shoshana Ben-Yishai, 16, of Queens, NY was killed in a shooting at a bus station. U.S. citizen injured: Shlomo Kaye.

                                                                    December 2, 2001, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Ziv Brill, 17, of West Hempstead, Long Island, NY, Temima Spetner, 19, of St. Louis, MI, Jason Kirshenbaum of New Rochelle, NY, Israel Hirschfield, 18, Joseph Leifer, 29, of Borough Park (Brooklyn), NY.

                                                                    December 18, 2001, shooting on the Jerusalem-Shilo road. U.S. citizens injured: David Rubin, 44, of Brooklyn, NY, Asher "Ruby" Rubin, 3.

                                                                    January 15, 2002, Bethlehem, West Bank. Avraham Boaz, 71, of New York, a dual Israeli-American citizen, was kidnapped at a PA security checkpoint in Beit Jala and murdered.

                                                                    January 18, 2002: Shooting in Hadera. U.S. citizen killed: Aaron Elis, 32, son of Chicago family.

                                                                    January 22, 2002: Shooting in Jerusalem, Israel. U.S. citizen injured: Shayna Gould, 19, of Chicago, IL

                                                                    January 27, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. A Palestinian woman triggered a massive explosion in downtown Jerusalem killing one elderly Israeli and injuring more than 150, including American Mark Sokolow, his wife, and 16 and 12-year-old daughters. Sokolow had earlier survived the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center, escaping from his law office on the 38th floor of the South Tower before it collapsed.

                                                                    February 8, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Stabbing in Abu Tor Peace Forest Jerusalem. U.S. citizen killed: Moranne Amit, 25

                                                                    February 15, 2002, near Ramallah, West Bank. Lee Akunis was shot to death.

                                                                    February 16, 2002: Bombing in Karnei Shomron. U.S. citizens killed: Keren Shatsky, 14, of Brooklyn, NY and Maine, Rachel Thaler, 16, of Baltimore, MD. U.S. citizens injured: Lior Thaler, 14, of Baltimore, MD, Hillel Trattner of Chicago, IL, Ronit Yucht Trattner of Chicago, IL, Chani Friedman of New York.

                                                                    February 19, 2002: Shooting near Neve Dekalim. U.S. citizens injured: Moshe Saperstein of New York.

                                                                    February 25, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moran Amit, 25, was stabbed to death in Abu Tor Peace Forest in Jerusalem.

                                                                    March 7, 2002, Eshel Hashomron Hotel, Ariel, Israel. A Christian tourist from Arkansas lost her right eye in an attack by a suicide bomber.

                                                                    March 21, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Bombing on a Jerusalem street. U.S. citizens injured: Alan Joseph Bauer, 37, of Chicago, Yonathon Bauer, 7 (dual U.S.-Israeli citizenship).

                                                                    March 24, 2002, Ofra, Israel. Shooting near Ofra. U.S. citizens killed: Esther Kleinman, 23, formerly of Chicago, IL.

                                                                    March 27, 2002, Netanya, Israel. U.S. citizen Hannah Rogen, 90, was killed in a suicide attack at a Passover Seder.

                                                                    March 31, 2002, Efrat, Israel. Bombing in Efrat. U.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American citizen.

                                                                    June 18, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Moshe Gottlieb, 70, of Los Angeles, CA was killed in a bus bombing in Jerusalem.

                                                                    June 19, 2002, Jerusalem, Israel. Gila Sara Kessler, 19, whose family came from New York, was killed in a bombing at a bus stop.

                                                                    July 31, 2002, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel. Nine people were killed when a bomb exploded in the main cafeteria at the Hebrew University's Mount Scopus campus in Jerusalem. Five were U.S. citizens: Janis Ruth Coulter, 36, of MA; Marla Bennet, 24, of San Diego, CA; David Gritz (also a French citizen), 24, of Peru, MA; Benjamin Blutstein, 25, of Susquehanna Township, PA; and Dina Carter, 37, of NC. Israelis David Ladovsky, 29, and Levina Shapira, 53 also died in the bombing. U.S. citizens injured: Spencer Dew, 26, of Owensboro, Kentucky; Zeev Spencer; Harris Gershon; Jamie Harris. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

                                                                    March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.

                                                                    March 7, 2003: Shooting in the victims’ home. U.S. citizens killed: Rabbi Eli Horowitz, 52, who grew up in Chicago; Dina Horowitz, 50, who grew up in Florida

                                                                    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html

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                                                                    #618.8 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:22 PM EST

                                                                    Larry should also list the names of innocent Palestinian civilians killed by the Israelis. (Not all Palestinians are terrorists--in fact, very few are.)

                                                                    I'm willing to bet it's longer.

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                                                                    #618.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:31 AM EST

                                                                    Robinson: You PROMISED to move to Costa Rica, IF Obama was re-elected! Now, are you going or not?

                                                                      #618.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:22 AM EST

                                                                      Larry Robinson-1323081

                                                                      there were 1000's of Al Qaeda in Iraq and we took out Saddam Hussein who paid out over 35 million dollars to the families of jihadists as a reward for killing Americans and Jews

                                                                      Larry the Liar, are you still mumbling? There were NO (that is ZERO, nada, zilch) al Qaeda in Iraq until we came in and created them. They had a worse relationship with Sadam than we did. Folks in this country who understood what was going on warned loudly that attacking Sadam would not be in the best interests of eliminating al Qaeda, remember? That war was a scam and you have not figured it out yet.

                                                                      Go back and hide behind the pulpit, you are just making a fool of yourself. LOL

                                                                        #618.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 2:02 PM EST

                                                                        I'm proud of the War in Iraq- it was the right thing to do and I'm glad we did it- unlike liberals who love to see America attacked.

                                                                          #618.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:54 PM EST

                                                                          Larry... mass murder of your fellow citizens is not exactly a great way to achieve "liberty". Please tell mommy that you forgot to take your meds!

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                                                                          #618.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:35 PM EST

                                                                          Larry wants a right wing totalitarian political system - sorta like Saudia Arabia only for Christians

                                                                          One religion, one dogma, one political system.

                                                                          So my good Christian friend, you say you will not compromise with evil, yet you have counseled Mormons to leave their evil cult - and then you voted for Romney.

                                                                          You say you will not accept Obamacare but you will accept CAJA in Costa Rica - yes its the law of the land.

                                                                          76% of Costa Ricans are Catholic ..... another 'cult' you have issues with ........

                                                                          Jesus would see you as just another corrupt Sadducee.

                                                                          Welcome to irrelevancy Larry.

                                                                            #618.14 - Fri Nov 9, 2012 4:01 PM EST
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                                                                            The Repub. Are Down For The Count --

                                                                            1- 2008 -- Fact

                                                                            2- 2012 -- Fact

                                                                            3- 2010 -- Mid Terms -- Bye Bye -- It Will Happen!

                                                                            4- 2016 -- Dems Running Against Who / What Party -- Good Question -- Lights Are Out & No One Home!

                                                                            *Special News Flash:

                                                                            Last Hardliner Republican Perished In Roadside Ditch Overseas Due To IED Left Over From Bush Wars!

                                                                            Hum -- Oh Well -- He Voted For It Right -- It Must Be God's Wish -- A Republican Thing!

                                                                              Reply#619 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 9:43 PM EST

                                                                              2008 - 2016

                                                                              Let's entertain the fact that liberals are in-breed arrogant malcontents determined to change this country into their utopian society of hand-outs through taxation. The evil 1% says F.... you and pulls their money from American investment. Revenues continue their decline and eventually plummets. Costs exceeds income and our debt becomes too much of a risk for others to offer assistance.

                                                                              What is the interest per year on 20 trillion dollars?

                                                                              It's the absolute certainty of liberal cranial rectitus that will save this country.

                                                                                #619.1 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:20 AM EST

                                                                                Yes, let's entertain the fact, that the 11 TRILLION of our debt came from BUSH and with the GOP voting 19 TIMES to increase the debt ceiling.

                                                                                The only way we get out of this cycle is BOTH parties have to stop spending money they do not have. We cut the fat out of social programs, military, and CORPORATE welfare. The corporate welfare ENTITLEMENTS must cease as well.

                                                                                P.S. TELL CONGRESS (Article 1 section 8) to do their job.

                                                                                  #619.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:48 AM EST

                                                                                  Its abouttime

                                                                                  What do I say when you comment back in a non-agreesive logical fashion.

                                                                                  You hit all the points.

                                                                                  Touche'

                                                                                  agreed.

                                                                                    #619.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:18 AM EST
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                                                                                    Latino groups to Obama: You owe Latinos the election, now pass immigration reform

                                                                                    "Leaders of immigrant rights and Latino groups told reporters in a conference call on Wednesday that Obama owes his second term to Latino voters, and should repay them by passing comprehensive immigration reform. Obama promised to pass a law legalizing many of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country while he campaigned four years ago, and he's been chastised by Latino leaders for breaking his promise."

                                                                                    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/latino-groups-obama-owe-latinos-election-now-pass-194113601--election.html

                                                                                    Imagine that, race-based groups telling the President he owes them... the respect for his "leadership" is clearly immense. (sarcasm)

                                                                                    Congratulations Mexico, enjoy the remains of what used to be a place worth running TO.

                                                                                    "Yes, you did" - Satisfied Democrats?

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                                                                                    Reply#620 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:05 PM EST

                                                                                    Mis felicitaciones al Presidente Obama y agradecimiento especial a todas las trabajadoras estadounidenses que lo eligieron. Mi hermana cruzaron la frontera desde México en Arizona hace cinco años y ahora tiene tres bebés encantadores. Todos nacieron en los hospitales de sus maravillosos y ella no tenía que pagar nada. Yo pronto traerá el resto de mi familia desde México y con la dirección de que este país fino se dirección ahora no necesitamos pasar cualquier tiempo innecesario aprender el idioma o preocuparse conforme a las formas de la gente local Estoy mirando adelante al trabajo que no hará de tu pueblo, educación gratuita y atención médica gratuita. Y estoy seguro que hay muchas otras cosas estarán dispuestos a darme como yo y mi familia voto para usted. Me han dicho que si me quedo tiempo suficiente, no queden atrapado y mantenerse fuera de problemas puedo ser un ciudadano. Entonces puedo votar y
                                                                                    asegúrese de que más de mis hermanos y hermanas de México en este país más fáciles. ¡ Esto es lo que un gran país! Y asegúrese de que sus hijos y nietos aprenden a español. Confío en que pronto será la lengua materna en California, Arizona, Nevada, Nuevo México y Texas.

                                                                                    Gracias por abrir sus puertas amplia al pueblo de México. Muchos, muchos más seguirán! nuevamente,gracias por ayudar a mi gente se mueve la frontera de México hacia el norte a la tierra que es nuestro. Aztlan ha surgido. Viven La Raza y la MEChA y el Partido Demócrata.

                                                                                    In basic english this says thanks suckers for all the freebies and in the end giving us Mexicans back the land you took from us 300 years ago. It will take a couple more generations but it will be worth it. Glad I could serve the cause!

                                                                                      #620.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST

                                                                                      You ignorant Mexican ! Don't even know your own history ! Mexico lost it in 1846 in a War with the US because Mexico sucked and still sucks. The US is starting to suck because of 20 million people like you share that attitude and use it as an excuse to come here and take everything you can get for nothing and I'm tired of helping to support it. You are here because your country sucks, it's that simple. Maybe you should take a page from your own logic and stay home and work and pay welfare and support all of the native peoples your country has screwed over in the past ! WE OWE YOU NOTHING, NOW YOUR PEOPLE OWE THE US !

                                                                                      You don't hear me crying because Norway stole lamd from my ancestors in Denmark in 1645, they lost it in a WAR. It was a different world, that's why we call it History.

                                                                                        #620.2 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 4:15 AM EST

                                                                                        ¡Exactamente gringo! And we thank your Democratic party for the opportunity to regain Aztlan. We lost a battle in 1846. Not the war. I repeat ¡Esto es lo que un gran país!

                                                                                          #620.3 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:33 AM EST

                                                                                          Well Prez O doesn't ever have to run again. So if he doesn't push for immigration reform now, how are the latinos going to threaten him ? And I remind us that it isn't 1980 anymore. The strong middle class which paid the bills for America is gone. The idea that the rich can continue to prey upon them, the gubmint can tax it, and the rest of the world can depend on it to give them stuff and fight their fights for them is all over ! The idea that immigrants can come here by the millions per year and expect free k-12, and college educations, jobs, medical care all funded by the middle class Americans is over. We now owe 16 trillion in debt ! We expect to be adding well over a trillion a year to that debt for the foreseeable years. We have no plans to pay that debt down. Our graduates whether from HS or college do not compare well with foreign students in skills. They are not job qualified. Employers don't want to hire them. Many foreigners who came and received US college degrees are returning home because that's where the jobs are. Many of our people voted the way they did because they believe they can receive gubmint benefits - not because they feel like making a contribution to society and are thrilled about paying taxes to support someone else. All consumers whether using a paycheck or a gubmint benefit check are in WalMart buying Chinese and Korean products - exporting cash and jobs as fast as electronic banking can make it happen- thus canabalizing what's left of the middle class. And we now have a lame duck congress in opposition with the Prez and together they are supposed to solve the financial questions to avoid the cliff in 45 days. Ha ! Good luck with that one.

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                                                                                          #620.4 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 9:36 AM EST
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                                                                                          I want to congratulate President Obama and the Democrats for a wonderful victory last night! This one was for keeping the country moving forward in a positive direction instead of going backwards to those who created the mess we are trying to extract ourselves from. I also want to commend Gov. Romney for his graciousness in defeat. We all know how hard losing these things can be, and how badly it stings. Nevertheless, I am joyous in the results and look forward to the second term Mr. Obama has rightfully earned.

                                                                                          I hope both sides can now finally work together for a better America. Good luck and God bless!

                                                                                          Yours,

                                                                                          Jersey Devil

                                                                                            Reply#621 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:08 PM EST

                                                                                            The Hardline Republicans Know That They Are On The Line And If They As A Party And Individuals Want To

                                                                                            Survive In Congress -- They Will Cut Down On Their Stone Walling Of Progress Or They Won't Be Around

                                                                                            At The Mid Term Elections In A Short 2 Years! To Be Beaten Once Is One Thing -- But To Beat Twice A

                                                                                            Serious Major Beating With Losses Across The Board -- They Are Now A Party In Name Only! They Know

                                                                                            They Will Be Walked Out The Door By The Voters If They Don't Seriously Get With The Program!

                                                                                            Ball In Their Court To Work For America Not Their Little World!

                                                                                              #621.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:58 PM EST
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                                                                                              We as a country are doomed. This was the most sinful election in United States history. Complete disregard for God. Mexicans wanting to get into America on a free card. To lazy to go through the same systems German's Irish, Jews and Italians went through. Our ancestors came because they wanted to be called an American. They had no help. They had to learn English to become a citizen. And they where joyful when they where called American. They fought and died for America, even if it meant killing their own kind from the old country.

                                                                                              Gays wanting to be married in a sham wedding by Rev. Jimmy. Have us except their way of life. Saying how beautiful it is rolling in the feces of their new bride expressing their love. And cannot understand why anyone would be against them. Using the civil rights act which was meant to level the playing field for blacks

                                                                                              A president who hates America, because of his dads hate for America and whites. A president who came out of no where with only 6 months in the senate. Backed by big money and the media. And actors in Hollywood, who become brain surgeons after reading a script. As Paul Newman said, "even Lassie can act."

                                                                                              Selfish women who want to keep killing their own children because they see it as birth control.

                                                                                              Women who lied about Roe vs. Wade. Using a young girl. And telling people she was raped. She was never raped and she is now in the Catholic church. Trying to undo what the man haters started. And never having an abortion.

                                                                                              Women who claimed violence against women went up, when their husband or boyfriend beat them when their football team lost. Maybe that is why the vote was withheld from women for so long.

                                                                                              The love children who made America a god less waste land, back in the sixties. The same ones who rule Wall Street. And help destroy the earth resources.

                                                                                              Blacks who support a president who wants abortion to continue. Even though planned parenthood was based on keeping the blacks from multiplying. A Republican party who started the civil war to free slaves. And the Democrats who kept segregation well into the sixties.

                                                                                              A constitution who our elected officials see as nothing but toilet paper.

                                                                                              A president who wants us to join the U.N.s, one earth charter of human rights, instead of our constitution, which is one of the best in the world.

                                                                                              Smoking pot will become legal. Not because people want it, but the Fed's will help us keeping on keeping on by sitting in our homes stoned while they are taking away our rights. Just like the English did to the people of India and Jamaica.

                                                                                              America is now in the hands of the demon's who do exist and do, want our destruction. Rockefeller belongs to that group who want to rule the world.

                                                                                              We have now become a country, who cannot compete because of government and big business being in the same bed. And making sure more uneducated people are allowed into the country.

                                                                                              Mexico will not put up with illegal aliens in their country. You go right to jail. A government who says Spanish is the only language in their country. Not English.

                                                                                              Our government in the next couple of months, will pass a 400 billion tax on its people. And cut military spending by a billion.

                                                                                              A week military. Illegal aliens. A messed up education system. People who do not care about anything but their own selfish wants. A people who just like Dracula, invites big brother into their house. A country who will soon ban this writing and religion. A country who will want to kill Christians and Jews. Because as Marx's said, religion is the opiate of the people. Same as Hitler thought, the same as Mao thought. A one world government, a one world religion. A world where if you do not have the devils symbol on you hand or far head. You cannot buy or sell. You will loose everything. You have a choice. Join in the evil and live until your banished to hell. Or except Christ and die while saving your soul from damnation.

                                                                                              God always lets you chose which path you will take. America has taken the wrong path, and will pay for it. Higher taxes, loss of freedom and watching Hollywood promoting everything evil to the world.

                                                                                              God does exist and I am not the nut job you will call me.

                                                                                              Pray that the President gets a loving heart. Love for God, love for his fellow man. The only commandments, that if kept, you will have kept all the commandments.

                                                                                              America showed it's true self by spitting on the face of God, while he walked to the cross to forgive you your sins.

                                                                                              The vote does not belong to us. It belongs to the destroyer of this world.

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                                                                                              Reply#622 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:44 PM EST

                                                                                              I'm a Christian who voted for the President partly because I think he understand's Christ's teachings better than Mr. Romney, and I'm just going to let your comment speak for itself.

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                                                                                              #622.1 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:00 PM EST

                                                                                              MAM-

                                                                                              Barack Obama is not a Christian, nor is he a muslim. He was raised a communist and has transitioned to a combination of Fascism and Stalinism. you cannot be a Christian and be a Democrat. No Christian can say they follow Christ and support sexual perversion, murder of innocent babies,, enslavement to the state, and elevating man over God as is the communist platform of the Democrats and the Stalinist Obama.

                                                                                              Hell will be filled with liberals who have elevated man over God.

                                                                                              Rev Larry Robinson

                                                                                                #622.2 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:06 PM EST

                                                                                                Yeah, well when push comes to shove I don't think you can be Republican and really be a Christian. You've got some conservatives you should be counseling regarding sexual "perversion," if that's how you feel, don't you think. But I guess some have a wide stance on that. You might try taking a class at your local community college on comparative political and economic systems if you actually think our President is a communist, they can really help you.

                                                                                                  #622.3 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:11 PM EST

                                                                                                  Carl, God says that you are not in charge or under control. God is the original liberal, or you wouldn't have anything. Then he let his son's heart bleed for you, but you profaned his name and rejected his instructions in order to peddle Pharisaical crap and sew dissension. "Why do you call me, Lord Lord, but do not do what I say"? Worship your elephant, but get out of the way. "I came for sinners, not the self righteous, obnoxious, self-made sons of perdition". An angel will come and smite your ass.

                                                                                                    #622.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:15 PM EST

                                                                                                    MAM-I'm not a Republican, I'm a Christian libertarian.

                                                                                                    I have degrees in History and Theology and have studied marxism including communism for over 50 years.

                                                                                                      #622.5 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:17 PM EST

                                                                                                      You should have a degree in math because Polls for Romney where way off. Clinton was right their math does not add up.

                                                                                                        #622.6 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST

                                                                                                        "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. "

                                                                                                        --Mahatma Gandhi

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                                                                                                        #622.7 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 3:27 AM EST

                                                                                                        The main poll that kept Romney even close was the Rasmussen. From this day forward it will be considered rational only to the FOX NEWS folks who have become the laughing stock of talking heads. America is laughing at FOX NEWS attempts to lie its heros into office. Guess what? It failed!

                                                                                                        FOX NEWS is the biggest FAILURE in media history and should be removed from the airwaves. America cannot stand another four years of their lies, there is too much to do.

                                                                                                        Obama should instruct the FCC to jerk their licenses immediately. Freedom of speech is too important to be subject to bribery and deception.

                                                                                                          #622.8 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 7:52 AM EST

                                                                                                          Rev Larry Robinson

                                                                                                          We are sorry that your degrees and study were wasted, but don't blame it on us. You should have chosen a better school or worked harder.

                                                                                                          PS, Jesus would be very disappointed in you if he were still alive.

                                                                                                            #622.9 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:11 AM EST

                                                                                                            Carl-2808039

                                                                                                            We are doomed if delusional people like you continue to spout your nonsense to the ignorant. If Jesus were still alive, he would turn your tongue and hands into stone, if he could. They would then join your brain in its state of inflexibility.

                                                                                                              #622.10 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:18 AM EST

                                                                                                              ah tex2c knows what Christ would do. I'm a fiscal conservative - non-practicing in faith - but people like you truly make me sick.

                                                                                                              You're just SO PC and proud of it as you sit above the rest of the mere mortals. The air must be thin up there where the other gods.

                                                                                                                #622.11 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 8:30 AM EST

                                                                                                                Judgement belongs only to God, not to you. His ways are not ours, his thoughts are not ours. His will is done, not ours.

                                                                                                                  #622.12 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 11:45 AM EST

                                                                                                                  Paulb: Looks like his will was done Tuesday night, doesn't it.

                                                                                                                    #622.13 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 12:57 PM EST

                                                                                                                    Yes, Bill, it is kinda comfortable up here above all the morons that believed the lies coming out of the Retardican camp. Sorry you are sick, take some aspirin and Karl Rove will see you in the morning.

                                                                                                                    BTW, I have just a much claim over what Jesus would or would not do as the creepy right wing fanatics out there who talk out of both sides of their mouth on every issue. LOL

                                                                                                                    Paulb, where did you learn to mumble so well? Did drugs help? Voodoo alert!

                                                                                                                      #622.14 - Thu Nov 8, 2012 1:50 PM EST
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