Biden closes 2012 campaign with appeal for 'noble' politics

 

RICHMOND, Va. -- In what could be his last political rally as a national candidate after a career that's spanned four decades, Vice President Joe Biden called for civility and compromise in his final campaign event of 2012.

"Now is the time for our politics to be as good and as noble as our people," Biden told a crowd of 1,200 at a chilly outdoor venue in Virginia's capital city here.

"It’s time we come together and realize the great potential of this great country," he said. "It’s time to replace unyielding ideology with principled compromise.  Ladies and gentlemen, I believe most Democrats and Republicans are prepared to do just that."


Biden's remarks were prefaced by a musical performance by John Mellencamp – who crooned a modified version of "Pink Houses" that praised the middle class – and speeches by Sen. Mark Warner and Senate candidate Tim Kaine.

The vice president, who has drawn criticism for saying that GOP banking policies would put people "back in chains," urged Virginians throughout the final day of campaigning to send a message of civility with their votes.

"We have a chance not just to win but to make a real statement about unifying this country," he told volunteers in Roanoke.

The vice president – who may be open to running for president in 2016 (although he would be 73 years old) – will cast his ballot Tuesday morning in his hometown, Wilmington, Del.

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"It’s time to replace unyielding ideology with principled compromise"

Thanks Joe, that is a great reason to vote for change with Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

  • 45 votes
#1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:04 PM EST

"Civility" translation - let's not riot tomorrow when we lose!

  • 32 votes
#1.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST

Nice of Biden, isn't it? I mean, one candidate called on people to vote for revenge- the other for love of country.

Guess even Biden will be voting for Romney.

Funny- tonight I saw a comment on another blog that made me realize why I object to the whole "war on women" strategy Obama employed- that worked with so many women who were going to vote for him anyway-

Obama thinks that women should only worry their pretty little heads about free birth control, (so men don't need to worry about condoms), and abortions if that birth control fails. We should let the big, strong, smart MEN worry about the economy and foreign policy, because, well, we're just supposed to worry about our "lady parts".

If that doesn't show contempt for women, I don't know what does. That so many women who fancy themselves smart and empowered fell for it?

There is no word to even begin to express my embarrassment for them. . .

  • 37 votes
#1.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST
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Too late, 0bama and Biden already wrapped up an attack campaign based on murder, racism, dirty air and water, racism, BS, war on women, flat earthers, Jim Crow and racism.

  • 27 votes
#1.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:29 PM EST
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#1.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST

@ elliot - not that I care what you think, but you apparently don't know what the word"spamming" means.

and - we have asked you before: P L E A S E . . . S T O P . . . . Y E L L I N G . . . which is a violation of the rules . . . it constitutes "ADVERTISING"

:-)

  • 22 votes
#1.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:34 PM EST

Between "REVENGE" (Obama) and "Ya''ll back in changes" (Biden), the USA is in deep trouble if Obama/Biden win. Imagine the combination of those words toward anyone that doesn't fall in line!

Romney/Ryan for LOVE OF COUNTRY

  • 25 votes
#1.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST

"Biden closes 2012 campaign with appeal for 'noble' politics"

Wow, and this is coming from Mr. Biden ? This administration does not know what CIVILITY means.

Tell that to the Progressives and Mr. Obama's surrogates, Mr. Biden.....main street America is completely turned off on your rhetoric.

  • 26 votes
#1.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST

Turn out the lights the party is over , Obama Wins 4 more for 44. i have crying Towels for you TeaBaggers, and in 2 more years in the Mid election we wont hear another word from a Bagger

Obama/Biden 2012 your Grandparents and Parents future depend on it

The crying from the Reich Wing. LOLOLOLOL I love it, Here Comes The WHHHAAAAAMMMBULANCE

  • 31 votes
#1.10 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST

KJNC- just a little friendly note-

Many posters on the First Read site use both bold and a larger font when posting. Theses posters are from both sides.

Also, "advertising" means exactly that- trying to sell something. We get posts from "dating" sites most often- but cheap, grey market goods sellers have also found their way here.

That's advertising.

My understanding is that misusing the advertising report could get you suspended. I may not agree with your politics, but I don't like to see someone get suspended for misunderstanding the rules.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST

Obama: "Let's take this country Forward"
Romney: "Let's take America Back"
Back to where????

  • 24 votes
#1.12 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST

Romney's Pennsylvania Fantasy Turns into Disaster

If this state was in play (it wasn’t!), it ain’t now.

Michael Barbaro ‏@mikiebarb
"We've got to get out! My daughter is frostbitten," begs mom, asking to leave Romney rally. Staffer replies: "It's not cold enuf for that."

Sabrina Siddiqui ‏@SabrinaSiddiqui
. @JFKucinich is live tweeting more about the frustrated folks wanting to leave Romney rally.

Jackie Kucinich ‏@JFKucinich
People are literally streaming through the gates - Romney still speaking.

Ashley Parker ‏@AshleyRParker
This is a big rally for Romney in PA, but dozens of people -- cold and angry -- are begging to be let out.

Michael Barbaro ‏@mikiebarb
W/ Romney more than an hour late (but now speaking), dozens of people stuck in the cold, begging staffers to leave, use the bathroom...

Michael Barbaro ‏@mikiebarb
Rally in PA just went eerily quiet for 3 mins after a man collapsed in the audience. No music. No speaker. He's. Okay now tho.

MoveOn.org ‏@MoveOn
BREAKING: USA Today reporter says @MittRomney staffers are trapping people at rally in #PA. Won't let them leave.pic.twitter.com/M6svk9qN

Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
It looks staffers at the Romney event refused originally let ppl leave, despite their begging. https://twitter.com/mikiebarb/statuses/265241615558406145https://twitter.com/JFKucinich/status/265241932295438338

Jackie Kucinich ‏@JFKucinich
Man just pulled me aside and said "My son is on the verge of hypothermia" just as staffer starts letting people out a few at a time


http://www.democrats.org/news/press/romneys_pa_fantasy_turns_into_disaster

4 more 4 44

Obama/Biden 2012


  • 26 votes
#1.13 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST

I remember the days 4 years ago when that huckster Beck and Hannity were saying go out and buy Beans and Rice, there will be Brown shirted Obama Police on every corner, The country is going to collapse. well all anyone who listened to those whackos got was spoiled food and a Economy that is growing

  • 27 votes
#1.14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST
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#1.15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST

So maybe the Nate Silver fan could tell us all how fantastically accurate old Nate was in the last election?

You remember the last election, just two short years ago.

Nate had Sharon Angle at 75% to win, and screwed the pooch on the number of House seats the GOP took.

So funny that a guy is is 50-50 over two elections is all the libbies got.

Yikes.

Mitt 53% - O 47%

  • 6 votes
#1.16 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST

Republicans are the true enemies from within, sporting their (Made in China) American Flag lapel pins as they purposefully drag us back to the very system our founders fought a revolution to escape – namely, one where the rich own and run everything and everyone else knows their (natural) “place” as they await their reward in Heaven.

This is why they blanket the nation with Faux News propaganda and lies, smash down the barriers between church and state, destroy unions, and dismantle our education system.

***The Texas Republican Platform actually states they are AGAINST “Critical Thinking Skills!”

  • 25 votes
#1.17 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST

I am actually starting to feel bad for Republicans.

They are at home starting to cry, because they know Romney is losing.

Maybe they should start inducting more minorities and quit with all racist food stamp, Muslim talk.

  • 22 votes
#1.18 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST

Compromise? Not the GOP.

Every time the Republicans or Tea Party members in Congress blocked Obama, they were blocking every American who voted for him as well.

  • 25 votes
#1.20 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST

Our President said that he would bring the nation together. That did not work.

Our President said that he could work with the opposition party by reaching across the isle. That did not work.

Our President said that his administration would be free from lobbyists. That did not work.

Our President said that his administration would be the most transparent ever. That did not work.

Our President said that he would fix the economy within three years. That did not work.

Our President said that his health care bill would lower health care costs. That did not work.

Our President said that he would not raise taxes on 95% of Americans in any way. That did not work.

Our President said that his stimulus spending bill would solve our employment problem. That did not work.

Our President said that he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. That did not work.

Our President has provided an economic "plan" for the next 4 years that is mathematically impossible. That cannot work.

I see a pattern here. Our President said that if he could not fix the economy within three year that he did not deserve a second term.

  • 18 votes
#1.21 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:33 PM EST

Forward...with O & Joe...

there is no going back to the Old Bush policies in the new Romney package...

  • 23 votes
#1.22 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:59 PM EST

How on earth a republican will get elected with Israel ready to blast Iran then we get into another war not afghanistan yet to end. We must not make that mistake, another war isn't for USA. We need to clean the mess and as the economy is improving, it isn't time to change that momentum.

To all here, think twice and think deeply and would be the consequences.

Obama/Biden

  • 19 votes
#1.23 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST

The Republicans are already trying to steal this election.

VOTE! And then follow up to make sure it's counted.

Clackamas County identifies accused elections worker as Deanna Swenson of Oregon City

Clackamas County today identified the temporary elections worker accused of altering ballots as Deanna Swenson, 55, of the Oregon City area.

She was "relieved of duty immediately after the alleged ballot tampering was discovered," Tim Heider, county spokesman, said in a press release.

Swenson, who is registered as a Republican, also worked previous elections, at least back to 2010, said Scot Sedaris, county counsel.

Swenson is accused of filling in the names of Republican candidates on ballots where voters did not make a choice. Tampering with ballots is a Class C felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of $125,000.

  • 18 votes
#1.24 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:39 AM EST

Obama Wins Obama Wins 4 more for 44

I remember the days 4 years ago when that huckster Beck and Hannity were saying go out and buy Beans and Rice, there will be Brown shirted Obama Police on every corner, The country is going to collapse. well all anyone who listened to those whackos got was spoiled food and a Economy that is growing.

I remember the night Bill Clinton was elected. One of the GOP party chairmen stood in front of cameras on national television and swore that this country was headed straight for another Great Depression within 2 years.

Funny - it wasn't until the GOP got back in power that he made that prediction come true.

O & Joe 2012

  • 22 votes
#1.25 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:42 AM EST

perturbative approximation

And they call the Republicans "the party of no", when they are the ones using that tactic.

Poor low-information GOP voters. They don't even have a clue what their party actually stands for.

From CNN:

Gridlock in Congress? Blame the GOP

[T]he number of filibusters by Republicans has escalated, and they have been far more willing to use the tactic than their opponents. Since 2007, the Senate Historical Office has shown, Democrats have had to end Republican filibusters more than 360 times, a historic record.

At least if you're going to vote for people to ruin the country you should understand what you're doing. Otherwise, you probably just shouldn't vote.

  • 15 votes
#1.26 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:45 AM EST

I Love you crazy-wacko TEABAGGERS and REPUBLICANS who are STILL in DENIAL

Don't you Know that you're NOT just LOSING the ELECTION,

you've ALREADY LOST.

You crazy-wacko TEABAGGERS and REPUBLICANS just haven't Noticed

that you've ALREADY have HIT the GROUND.

Ouch.

You know it.

I know it.

and Now your "REPUBLICAN MOMMA" knows it.

But, you TEABAGGERS and REPUBLICANS were RIGHT about ONE thing.

OBAMA really was BORN in KENYA.

and he's a MUSLIM too.

But it's too LATE Now, he's ALREADY in.

Hey, do you TEABAGGERS want to Know One more SECRET?

Of course you do.

He's also a Marxist.

All Hail Obama!

Ruler, Master, and Overlord of all you crazy-wacko Teabaggers

and you hideous-horrific Republicans for the next Four (yes! 4) very, very long years!

ps. Is this a Great post, or what?

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:45 AM EST

Stronghorse: EXACTLY!! Why would Biden ask for "civility"? If Democrats were projected and expected to win he wouldn't give a tiny rat's behind what "civility" might happen by Republicans? Also, when have you ever seen Republicans go against "civility"? We conservatives are NOT the ones that blocked Wall Street and Banks. Conservatives are NOT the ones that created "tent cities" with countless individuals who hadn't showered in weeks. Conservatives are NOT the ones that try to throw human feces on those entering the Republican convention. And Conservatives are NOT the ones who spew hatred (like RepublicansforObama above".

No, why would Biden say that? Because he knows Obama is going to lose and he is asking DEMOCRATS to act with civility and not create any undue violence and riots. Biden played his hand and made clear he already knows the outcome - Romney/Ryan are going to win and win by a landslide. I am SO looking forward to the poll results!!

  • 9 votes
#1.28 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:05 AM EST

Nate Silver's election prediction as of 11:29pm EST tonight:

Obama win 92%

Romney win 8%

GOP'ers - let me be the first to congratulate you on your candidate losing.

Doesn't matter how many greedy old white men vote for him - Romney's a goner.

  • 13 votes
#1.29 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:15 AM EST

To all those who don't like the word "revenge".

Al Gore won the 2000 election by over half a million votes.

But because the GOP was so scummy they stole the election, this country had to suffer through Iraq, Afghanistan, Abu Ghraib, 9/11, the total annihilation of America's values of truth and justice, and the greatest economic collapse this country has seen since the Great Depression.

Frankly, I think "revenge" in this election is too mild a remedy.

Call it "poetic justice" or "taking our country back" if that suits your vernacular better.

Either way, the fat lady is singing.

  • 15 votes
#1.30 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:18 AM EST

If Barry would have done HALF of what he'd promised, this election would not even be close.....

When he FULL CONTROL of both Houses of Congress..... he did nothing

When he reached across the isle to pass ObamaCare...... he ended up in a backroom, under-the-table deal with enough bribery & extortion to make any old Chicago mobster happy

When he pulled out all the stops to help the small businesses of America explode job growth... no wait, he didn't do that

When he demonstrated America's leadership to the rest of the world... no wait, not that one either

When he was more concerned with fairness & equality among every American... no, sorry, he has shown his own RACIST mindset every time

So someone tell me again why this campaign is even close?

Oh, that's right.... the Obama koolaid crowd cannot find fault with the "anointed one"..........

CHALLENGE for all the koolaid fans.....

Take everything that Obama has done over the past four years, change the name to George Bush and then tell me that you would have given him the same pass that Obama has enjoyed from you

  • 11 votes
#1.31 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 8:49 AM EST

Let's look at the Obama accomplishments:

1) Unemployment rate HIGHER than when he took office

2) MORE people unemployed than when Obama took office.

3) GDP growth of 2% is the WORST economic recovery in United States history.

4) Food Stamp participants up 40% during the Obama administration.

5) 1 in 6 now considered in Poverty.

6) Highest unemployment rate for blacks, hispanics, AND women in decades.

7) Borrowed nearly $1 Trillion for a "stimulus" package that did not "stimulate". In fact a number of "green" companies loaned money by the government have since gone bankrupt and us taxpayers will never see that money paid back.

8) Blocked the Keystone pipeline, blocked oil drilling in the Gulf, and new restrictions caused many coal powered plants to close costing tens of thousands of jobs and, even worse, was then less tax revenues to the government.

It amazes me how ANYBODY with the IQ at least 10 points above a turnip could even consider voting for Obama? Everything he has done, that's right I said EVERYTHING OBAMA HAS DONE, has damaged this economy. There is not ONE item or policy that Obama has done that can be argued has HELPED this economy. Not one.........

  • 8 votes
#1.32 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST

Joe Biden appealing for civility is the pinnacle of absurdity.

  • 7 votes
#1.33 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 11:37 AM EST

American Suzuki files for BANKRUPTCY.... Hey Joe, where's Barry on this car company? What about Pelosi & Feinstein....... guess they don't care about these AMERICAN WORKERS

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/american-suzuki-files-bankruptcy-protection-1C6892834

Or did they NOT vote for you in 2008?

  • 3 votes
#1.34 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:17 PM EST

Let's go BLUE.

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 3:16 PM EST

So proud to be a Republican and not a Democrat.

    #1.36 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 3:51 PM EST

    Anyone who is proud to be a Republican has either no shame, or a complete lack of morals.

    The Dems ain't fantastic, but at least they don't push lying, elitist, non-tax-releasing, minority-hating candidates who don't even know what a PERIODICAL is.

    • 2 votes
    #1.37 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 4:48 PM EST

    Well "RealAmerican", you cite a poll worker getting in trouble for falsifying ballots in favor of Republicans. What you apparently fail to grasp is if she had been trying to help Democrats, she would not have been reported. You cite ONE instance of wrong-doing as proof the Republicans are trying to steal the election. How about the huge Obama mural and quotes in a Philly polling station? They were ordered to completely cover it, but they didn't. How about the 70 Republican poll observers who were refused admittance to their polling sites by Democrats. The courts had to force them to be admitted, with help from the state police if needed? Libs will do anything to win. It's sad. Here come the lawsuits! Remember, to a lib tolerance is a one-way street. Believe as they do or face the unending liberal wrath. Tonight the libs lose big. Ready for the riots?

    • 1 vote
    #1.38 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 5:55 PM EST

    Hole - If you want to go blue, hold your breath. Tonight is RED.

    • 1 vote
    #1.39 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 5:56 PM EST

    Bob, PC, Guess, Pro and co. - Where'd you guys go? The rwnj's are awful quiet this morning! Bwahahahaha!

    • 2 votes
    #1.40 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 10:24 AM EST

    They've obviously all moved to China.

    That must be what they meant by "going RED".

    • 2 votes
    #1.41 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 11:44 PM EST
    Reply

    In what could be his last political rally as a national candidate after a career that's spanned four decades, Vice President Joe Biden called for civility and compromise in his final campaign event of 2012.

    In just two short hours it will be November 6, 2012. On this day, we the citizens of this nation will decide not only who will be the President of the United States, but what direction we want this country to go. For me, the choice is simple. We can stay with the proven leadership and steady growth of the current administration, or return to the proven failed policies of their opponents. For me, I'm satisfied with where we've been the last four years, and where we will go the next four if this current administration is given the votes for re-election. But I am only one vote. It's up to the rest of the country to decide who will be the winner. I'm betting on the path to remain the same and that the opposition parties attempt at turning back the clock will be rejected. If it is, I along with many on this board, will celebrate. If it isn't, my life will go on as it has for over fifty years. The time for bickering is over as we turn it over to the American people to decide.

    • 26 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST

    tonybeeerm, my husband and I already voted absentee for President Obama. I have a special request of you...will you change your avatar back if Michelle Bachman loses?

    • 21 votes
    #2.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:27 PM EST

    will you change your avatar back if Michelle Bachman loses?

    Absolutely! :)

    • 21 votes
    #2.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST

    Yes ! I'll be watching. We live in CA, but did contribute to her competitor. I hope she is gone. Thanks tonybeerm.

    God Bless America...vote !

    • 19 votes
    #2.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:34 PM EST

    CA Voters can't seem to get it right. Four more years and we'll all be like CA! Cities filing bankruptcy and everyone works for the unions.

    • 4 votes
    #2.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST

    Our country needs statesmen now more than ever. Thanks, Uncle Joe. I voted Obama/Biden this morning.

    • 4 votes
    #2.6 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:07 PM EST
    Reply

    "Noble" politics went out the door with McCain/Palin...they stooped to new lows in 2008, and Romney/Ryan took the GOP bar lower.

    GOP has blatently tried to steal this election.....but Dems, Independents, moderate Repubs will not allow it.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 21 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:28 PM EST

    Dragon:

    Guessed you missed the run up to election 2012?

    Romney/Ryan with Chris Christie for a "United" States of America

    • 4 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:39 PM EST

    Romney/Ryan with Chris Christie for a "United" States of America

    Chris Christie Denied Mitt Romney Request To Appear At Campaign Event Days Ahead Of 2012 Election

    Posted: 11/05/2012 6:07 pm EST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/chris-christie-mitt-romney_n_2079371.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

    4 more 4 44

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 17 votes
    #3.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST

    Uh, ohh It's on now.

    OH Gov Kasich says Jeep's adding jobs in OH. Translation: Romney is lying. And if any issue costs Romney Ohio, it will be this one!!!!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-mitt-romney-changing-his-tune-in-final-hours/2012/11/05/8ee39068-27a2-11e2-b2a0-ae18d6159439_story.html

    4 more 4 44

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 15 votes
    #3.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:46 PM EST

    Joe talking about "noble" politics? Hey Joe, does that mean Romney won't be able to put those black people "back in chains" like you said?

    • 4 votes
    #3.4 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:43 AM EST

    It would be difficult to pick out one lie or one mistake, but that Jeep lie was particularly brazen, especially when he was showing that to people that already knew better, because they ARE true sons of Detroit.

    I'll be happy to see Romney go away forever. If Florida falls, that's all, folks!

    • 2 votes
    #3.5 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:09 PM EST
    Reply

    The very fact that Obama wont address the Libya,Benghazi cover-up, and by his own words saying there's no need to talk about it before the election (like that is an answer) is proof that he is dirty,And his followers don't even want to know the truth of a set-up,murder and cover-up of a ambassador that dared to disagree with him and his policy's

    The official story surrounding the events of September 11, 2012 in Benghazi, Libya which left four Americans dead, has now officially fallen apart.

    After numerous flips and flops by the Obama administration, which originally attempted to paint the incident as a Muslim outcry over an anti-Islamic video, whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to "stand down."
    Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.(if the general had not intervened' there would be 34 dead Americans and not just 4---And now Obama has the U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Teams; Ignoring Libya Stand-Down Order. (Obama does not like the real light to be shined on him,HuH!)

    • 10 votes
    Reply#4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:35 PM EST

    grounded: News flash....after Mitt's ignorant rant on the attack before he knew the facts, and endangering even more American lives.....his campaign stopped talking about it too.

    Even Steven's parents have asked not to politicized their son's death...but you won't honor their request.

    Were you this "out raged" by the fact that Bush administration was told terrorist would attack by plane, but ignored it, and then thousands died on 9/11???

    Were you this "out raged" by the several embassy attacks during Bush's 2 terms....Americans died during those attacks.

    • 20 votes
    #4.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:44 PM EST

    Were you this outraged by the needless deaths of 18 US soldiers in Iraq from electrocution by Haliburton?

    • 19 votes
    #4.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:54 PM EST

    Gosh--didn't Romney have a chance to call the president a liar during that third debate? Oh, wait, he tried that during the second one. Didn't work out so well, did it? And Jay Leno said that during the third debate--on foreign policy, if I recall correctly--that he thought Romney was leaning to Obama.

    But St. Ronnie cut and run out of Lebanon when Marines were murdered in their barracks. But I guess it's ok if you're a Republican.

    • 11 votes
    #4.3 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:15 AM EST

    grounded123

    U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Teams; Ignoring Libya Stand-Down Order. (Obama does not like the real light to be shined on him,HuH!)

    Last week, Panetta said he, Dempsey and Ham all felt very strongly that it would have been a mistake to insert U.S. forces into Benghazi during the attack, which killed four Americans. Dempsey said Monday that Ham's departure is part of "routine succession planning."

    http://www.stripes.com/news/dempsey-africa-command-change-not-tied-to-benghazi-attack-1.195087

    The Associated Press
    Published: October 29, 2012

    Were you upset when Bush sent our troops into Iraq on a lie and killed 0ver 3000 of our troops? Under Bush, there were violent attacks on American embassies in Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India and Turkey. A U.S. diplomat was assassinated in Sudan. Another was murdered in Pakistan. How about that?

    4 more 4 44

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 10 votes
    #4.4 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:18 AM EST

    2,996 DIED on 9/11/01 while George Dubya Bush was in an elementary schohol classroom. When he was told about the first tower, he just acknowledged the situation and STAYED in his chair instead of immediately responding to an attack on the United States. THAT is the president's PRIMARY responsibility... to protect the American public.

    Were you outraged?

    When Bush declared a war on Iraq even though he KNEW Bin Laden was in Afghanistan, Were you outraged? When he had declared TWO wars and granted tax breaks (focused on the wealthiest Americans) and destroyed the Clinton legacy of a balanced budget...

    Were you outraged?

    Just sayin...

    • 9 votes
    #4.5 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:07 AM EST

    So many low info people here on both sides. Guess you all will be happy when nothing Improves due to your way or the highway approach. That is BOTH sides. Neither side has a mandate. Neither side, got it? None of you ever talk about how to fix stuff except to get someone else to give something up or get more taxes from some one else. Some of you have your heads in the sand about the problems.

    • 1 vote
    #4.6 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 5:39 AM EST

    How can any real American Patriot ignore the fact that FOUR Americans were MURDERED under O's watch? Seriously???? HOW?????

    • 3 votes
    #4.7 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 6:05 AM EST

    And how quickly you forget about all the young men that Bush sent to foreign countries to be murdered?

    • 3 votes
    #4.8 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:20 AM EST

    Russell1250 our government sent our troops to war, as you may not know it takes congressional approval for war. Many Democrats voted for it.

    The incident in Libya was different. Those people asked for help and our leaders decided to stand down, then lied about it for two weeks. They suck!!!

    • 2 votes
    #4.9 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:34 AM EST

    grounded123 = paid troll.

    Even Wrongme quit harping on Libya. His fox news addicts can't let it go, even after the facts have come out.

    You're wasting your time. They cannot be reached.

    • 2 votes
    #4.10 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:11 PM EST
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    Certainly, we need civility. Vice President is correct. We don't need the Tea Party's "Truth The Vote" masquerading as vigilantes. This is America not a worn torn country


    4 more 4 44

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 19 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:44 PM EST

    http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/11/florida_voter_challenges.html

    A Florida branch of "True the Vote" has challenged a disproportionate percentage of MINORITY registrations. There are a number of people who will be handed provisional ballots when they go to vote tomorrow in the Tampa area. This same organization protested water being handed out by the NAACP when people were standing in lines for over SIX HOURS in the Florida sun trying to vote early because they claimed the NAACP was trying to buy votes ... WITH WATER.

    THIS is what the Tea Party BULLIES are doing. This is the antithesis of civility.

    • 13 votes
    #5.1 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST
    Reply

    The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid's Nevada is
    getting a $737 million loan from Obama's D.O.E.
    The project will produce a 110
    megawatt power system and employs l45 permanent workers.
    That's costing us
    just $16 million per job.
    One of the investment partners in this endeavor is
    Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
    The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who
    is the brother to Nancy's husband.
    EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD KNOW HOW THEIR MONEY IS BEING STOLEN.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST

    MEDICARE

    Look clearly at the 2014 rate compared to the 2013 rate.

    For those of you who are on Medicare, read the following. It's short, but
    important and you probably haven't heard about it in the Mainstream News:

    "The per person Medicare Insurance Premium will increase from the present
    Monthly Fee of $96.40, rising to:

    $104.20 in 2012

    $120.20 in 2013

    And

    $247.00 in 2014."

    These are Provisions incorporated in the Obamacare Legislation, purposely
    delayed so as not to confuse the 2012 Re-Election Campaigns.

    Send this to
    all Seniors that you know, so they will know who's throwing them under the
    bus.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST

    From AARP's website:

    Q. I just received an email saying that under "Obamacare" our Medicare Part B premiums will rise to $247 a month by 2014. Is this true?

    A. No, it isn't true. A mass email making this claim has been circulating since before the 2010 elections. But it's just another attempt to scare older Americans and has no basis in fact

    • 15 votes
    #7.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST

    123 --- This is for services rendered unlike the insurance co.charging for services NOT rendered.

    AL --- I posted before I saw your post , thank you. Even so it would still be true.

    • 3 votes
    #7.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:57 PM EST
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    Nevada1050Deleted

    Compromise is not in the TP vocabulary. It is there way or NO way.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST
    Nevada1050Deleted

    Amazing! On the last day of the campaign, Joe BIden appeals for civility. That must be the word for the day on his Word-A-Day calendar, because he has never indicated that he knew that the word or its application existed before. You CAN teach an old dog new tricks!

    Whether Romney or Biden wins tomorrow, it IS time for the United States to try to regain some of the prestige and dignity we have lost over the past four years. I would hope that, regardless of who the next President of the US is, the public will support him WITHOUT the accusations of racism, foul mouthed comments, degrading insults, personal attacks on the individuals and their families, and all the other divisive actions I have seen on these forums throughout this election. Instead, I make the following suggestion:

    Obviously, someone is going to win, and someone is going to lose. I would hope that the supporters of the loser realize that it is time to get our country back on track, and, to use the energy they have been expending on vilifying the opposing candidate to demand instead accountability from ALL politicians, from the President on down.

    No matter who is in the White House, Congress, or any other elected office, they are accountable to the people. We seem to have forgotten that somehow - it's time to remember, and to take our beloved country back from the political hacks who have been destroying it (on both sides of the aisle).

    • 5 votes
    Reply#11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:57 PM EST

    Redwood Ed --- Thank you for your post , I couldn't agree more. We , the people need to hold ALL of the politicions accountable for there actions, and yes , both partys.

    • 4 votes
    #11.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST
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    Nevada1050Deleted

    You tell em Chuckles....I really liked it when Joe "gaffe" had that smile on his face when Ryan was proposing how to help the unemployed....it brought tears to my eyes....it made me forget for (at least) one moment that Joe needs his "hair plugs" redone...and, for that, I am thankful.....HA HA HA......BARRY/BIDEN/BIG BIRD 2012

    • 2 votes
    Reply#13 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:10 PM EST

    One last plea, to all Conservative Christians that have not voted yet, and unless you’re a devoted Ayn Rand Disciple, and believe in her philosophies, Wakeup, and come to your senses! You are being misled into voting against your better interests! Your Republican Party has been taken over by a bunch of Ayn Rand Disciples, and people like Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and most of the talking heads on the Right are devoted followers of hers. And, then there’s Paul Ryan, Romney’s running mate, and there’s Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, heck even Ronald Reagan was a follower’s of Ayn Rand’s philosophies. I could go on and on with names, but hopefully these will be enough to convince you to come to your senses. And, if you don’t want to take my word for it, it doesn’t take that long to google their names and find out.

    Now, as for Romney, I’m not sure just what he really is, except that he is Mormon, and he’s a pathological liar besides being a borderline psychopath. Now, I know President Obama has caught nothing but flack from the Right, but in his defense that has been part of their strategy from the beginning of every Democrats Presidency. It’s just part of an ongoing plan they use after they get voted out of office, and most of you should recognize the following tactic the Right uses, because it’s been their strategy for decades now.

    The first thing they do is, they endlessly insist that Government creates all of our problems.

    Second is the self-fulfilling prophecy of bad government under Republican leadership, as the Bush recessions of 1991 and 2007, the Hurricane Katrina response, the Iraq catastrophe and the transfer of federal oversight powers to the industries being regulated all showed.

    Third, when the backlash from the American people inevitably comes as it did in 1992 and 2008, attack the very legitimacy of the new Democratic president they elected.

    Fourth, they turn to the filibuster and other obstructionist tactics in an attempt to block the Democratic agenda, inaction for which the incumbent majority will be blamed.

    And, lastly they target the institutions and programs (Social Security, Medicare, the IRS) which form the underpinnings of progressive government.

    Now, back to Ayn Rand, do you people have any idea of what Ayn Rand’s philosophies were? If not, her philosophies were centered around Objectivism. Whereas, selfishness is considered a virtue, and the world is made up of what she considered as Creators and Parasites. In other words, most of our citizenry is made-up of parasites, unless you happen to be in the prestigious 1 percent. Now, here is the real kicker for all of you Conservative Christians that have been misled and fooled. Objectivism, also considers all people of religious faith as nothing but FOOLS, and are incapable of reason. They lack the ability to reason for themselves, in a sane manner! Now, just stop and think, if they only think of you as FOOLS. Then that means that they don’t think much of you period, and so, how could they honestly have your best interests at heart? In other words, you are being used solely as pawns just to further their goals, and they really could care less about what happens to you in the long term. Another very interesting facet of Ayn Rand was, she was a rigid proponent of the right of women to have abortions! I’ll bet that very few of you knew that, but if you did, and continued to preach your Right to Life views, and all while you were supporting Ayn Rand’s philosophies, then you are nothing more than the true definition of a hypocrite!

    Your Party has purposely destroyed our economy, and just to put themselves in the position to say, look, we warned all of you that Ayn Rand’s Novel Atlas Shrugged would come to pass, and low and behold it has, but in truth, only because of their intentional fiscal irresponsibilities of the past four decades, and malice intentions of making it happen! They want a two-class society in this country, and will stop at nothing to make that a reality! The Creators and the Parasites!

    So, hopefully all of the Conservative Christian’s will finally wakeup, and realize that they’ve been made fools of, before it’s too late, so as, we all don’t become slaves to the prestigious 1 percent! A Plutocracy form of government is knocking on our door, if they don’t wakeup!

    • 15 votes
    Reply#14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST

    I think I have heard enough from Biden for many lifetimes. He is out of his time and element and quite an embarrassment for one who is purported to be an intelligent thinking man.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST

    Mr. Biden, I simply cannot find a way to vote a "noble" vote when your boss wants me to vote for "revenge." Again, you can't have it both ways.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#16 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST

    As a teacher of over 30 years who lived through the civil rights movement I could never in a million years bring myself to vote for Romney who will make America lose everything we have fought for and gained over the last 50 years. I am also a vet with a son currently on active duty and the idea of a Romney presidency scares the heck out of my family, this draft dodger and his brave sons who themselves have never felt it important enough to serve their country.

    • 7 votes
    #16.1 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:22 AM EST

    Mk...I bet you did not find voting for Clinton an issue with the draft dodging thing. The thought that you think some how Romney is going to reverse civil rights gains makes you unfit to teach. No wonder our schools are so low performing. And of course you are lines up for a pension you barely earned.

    • 2 votes
    #16.2 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 5:47 AM EST

    teacher of 26 years....

    I too lived through the civil rights movement. From my perspective, it was a very destructive period that tore the Black community apart and it still has not recovered. I'm not talking about Dr King's work....I'm talking about the Black thugs that took over the movement. It would have been a better world if the 60's had not happened.

    As for Romney, he is a fiscal nerd. We need a nerd in the White House to set us on an economically sound path. I believe he is indifferent to social issues and those things can wait until we get our financial house in order.

    It was a terribly cheap shot for you to call Romney a draft dodger. He has devoted most of his adult life serving our country. You can serve our country without carrying a gun. Obama has done it.

    • 2 votes
    #16.3 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 6:40 AM EST
    Reply

    To "Romney will sink us"; Obama has sunk us.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#17 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST

    Joe, with all due respect, win or lose tomorrow...you wouldn't know "noble" if it bit you in the ass.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#18 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST

    What a perfect way to end the evening. Thanks Biden for being the class act you are. Love this guy for all his faults, he loves this country and he is a winner no matter what happens Love ya. Good night.

    Obama/Biden

    • 13 votes
    Reply#19 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST

    Uncle Joe rocks !!!!

    • 11 votes
    #19.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST

    If Biden were a class act, he would not be paired up with Obama.

    • 3 votes
    #19.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:46 PM EST
    Reply

    If Biden as second in line doesn't scare you, there's nothing left to be said.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#20 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:33 PM EST

    rustyanum sounds scared.......

    • 9 votes
    #20.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST

    Concerned that the U.S. couldn't field better candidates than what we have on either side of the ballot.

    Concerned that we're at critical junctures in this country on so many key issues and that the partisan brinkmanship on both sides of the aisle may bring us to crises that we will all share.

    So yes, in some ways I'm voting for the lesser of two evils.

    And yes, Joe Biden as second in line for Commander in Chief absolutely scares me. Noble - haven't seen him display that. What I have seen is a lot of blustering bravado; yet even when the choice was to be made about the Bin Laden attack, he lacked the backbone to support that - for fear of the political ramifications if it failed. I think the Cowboy vernacular for that is: "He's all hat and no cattle".

    • 2 votes
    #20.2 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:18 AM EST
    Reply

    Why doesn't this stupe practice what he preaches,Please vote--------vote for the winner--don't waste your vote..............vote for the Mormon not the moron..........

    • 5 votes
    Reply#21 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST

    hey earfreak......get used to him ......Haaaaa !!!!

    • 8 votes
    #21.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST
    Reply

    If Biden wants people to be civil, then he should first start with himself.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#22 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST
    Nevada1050Deleted
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    Just think, in a few, brief days, the paid trolls will be gone till the next election. I, for one, am looking forward to it. I also wish that Fox would open up their comments section again; after all, nobody will care what sort of rants they'll post after the election, so they don't need to be embarrassed by the ah, excessive vocabulary in use by posters there in times past.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 2012.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#27 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:22 AM EST

    Romney's loss boils down to two issues: Mendacity and Disclosure. His whale-size lies (I'll create 12 mill jobs) and his hiding tax reports and offshore accounts were a nasty slap on the face of voters.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#28 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:23 AM EST

    In memory of joe biden's nobleness:

    Obama

    Yo Momma!

    U Nose

    Dis Brotha

    Gots TO GO!!

    dats rite:)

    • 2 votes
    Reply#29 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:38 AM EST

    Obama will win tomorrow. within 12 months we will realize just how screwed up our Country is, as the results of 4 years of ineptitude can no longer be suppressed. It is going to be very bad.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#30 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:39 AM EST

    Do everything you can to prevent this horrible scenario.

      #30.1 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:50 AM EST
      Reply

      Well tomorrow night it will be all over , hopefully the results on the east coast won't be released until after the polls close on the west coast. I hate that old adage " I voted for the winner" when they already know and not because of any belief in thier candidate of choice.

        Reply#31 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:45 AM EST

        Old man - it will only be "over" if we are fortunate. Multiple scenarios where we might not actually know who won the election for several weeks...hopefully that won't be the case (and hopefully whichever side wins does it by a margin where some type of a mandate could be claimed...although that seems doubtful for either side...)

        • 1 vote
        Reply#32 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:49 AM EST
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