NBC/WSJ/Marist poll: Virginia could go either way

A new NBC poll should give both presidential campaigns reason to hope. Obama comes in at 48 percent; Romney at 47 percent. Taking Sandy into account, 80 percent in the Northeast said they approved of the president's handling of Superstorm Sandy. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.

Virginia remains a toss up. That’s the takeaway from a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll out from the battleground released Sunday.

Read the full Virginia poll here (.pdf)

Just two days before what is shaping up to be a very tight presidential election, President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney remain in a statistical tie for Virginia's crucial 13 electoral votes. Obama holding a narrow 48 percent to 47 percent edge among likely voters in the commonwealth. (There’s little change with registered voters – Obama’s advantage grows one point, 48 percent to 46 percent.)

Three weeks ago, the results were reversed in the poll, with Romney holding a 48 percent to 47 percent edge.

The president continues to benefit from better feelings about the direction of the country. While more people think that the country is headed in the wrong direction (49 percent) than the right path (46 percent), it's still an improvement from just three weeks ago when the spread was 10 points (53 percent wrong direction, 43 percent right path).

Biden on 'Hardball:' Obama's firewall will hold

That’s a consistent trend seen in the battlegrounds and national polls since Labor Day. Voters had consistently been saying the country was off on the wrong track by much wider margins.

There also continues to be a slight gender gap, with the president leading Romney 51 percent to 45 percent among women, but that chasm has been cut in half since last month.

That’s about the margin Obama won by in Virginia in 2008 over Republican Sen. John McCain – seven points.

But more men said they support the president this month than last. Last month, Romney led by 15 points with men; this month, it’s five points. McCain beat Obama with men by four points in 2008 in Virginia.

Final NBC/WSJ poll before election: Obama 48 percent, Romney 47 percent

Obama’s approval is 49 percent, a point better than his ballot score. Seven-in-10 Virginians said they approve of the president’s handling of Hurricane Sandy.

Geography is key to either side’s victory on Tuesday. The president needs to run up big margins in the Washington, D.C., suburbs. He leads there by 17 points, 56 percent to 39 percent. But in the swing Northern Virginia exurbs, Romney holds a narrow edge at 49 percent to 47 percent. Romney also leads by five points in the central/western part of the state, is up eight points in swing Richmond/eastern part of the state, and is tied with Obama in the Tidewater region.

Romney leads by five points with independents, but Obama leads by 12 points with moderates. In 2008, Obama won independents by a point and moderates by 17 points.

In the Senate race, Democrat Tim Kaine continues to edge Republican George Allen 49 percent to 46 percent, a two-point improvement for Kaine.

The poll was conducted Nov. 1-2, interviewed 1,165 likely voters, and has a margin of error of +/- 2.6 percentage points. The party ID in the poll is +3D. In 2008, it was +6D.

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Nate predicts on Nov. 6,
President Obama is 85.5% likely to win 307 Electoral College votes!
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President Obama chances of winning: the popular vote - 80.5%
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President Obama chances of winning: *OHIO* - 86%

President Obama chances of winning: IOWA - 83%

President Obama chances of winning: WISC - 94%

President Obama chances of winning: PA - 97.1%

President Obama chances of winning: VA - 71.%

President Obama chances of winning: NH - 79.4%

President Obama chances of winning: NV - 89.5%

President Obama chances of winning: CO - 68.1%

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of the last 21 polls, Obama is ahead in . . . . 17, 2 ties, Myth ahead in NC & FL :-)

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O & JOE . . . VOTE! :-)

  • 40 votes
#1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:11 AM EST

Good luck, Mr. President.

and our Irish American President O'bama will have the luck of Irish ... on his side.

  • 31 votes
#1.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:28 AM EST

"VIRGINIA!!!!!"

Vote Romney/Ryan for those babies in all the photo ops, their futures depend on you!

Romney/Ryan for a Presidency not built on REVENGE!!!!

  • 22 votes
#1.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:28 AM EST

Nate will prove himself to be the most irrelevant pollster ever in just a few days.

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:31 AM EST

Pigotry:

Luck of the Irish?

That election would need to fall in March. The rest of us will be BEYOND thankful when Romney/Ryan win on Tuesday. A Thanksgiving it will be! Colonialism at its finest.

Romney/Ryan with Christ Christie for a "bipartisan" "United" States of America

  • 18 votes
#1.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:34 AM EST

I don't think Chris Christie is "with" Romney, Independent.

Last I saw of him, he was with Obama.

  • 31 votes
#1.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:40 AM EST

To all those who don't like the word "revenge".

Al Gore won the 2000 election by over half a million votes.

But because the GOP was so scummy they stole the election, this country had to suffer through Iraq, Afghanistan, Abu Ghraib, 9/11, the total annihilation of America's values of truth and justice, and the greatest economic collapse this country has seen since the Great Depression.

Frankly, I think "revenge" in this election is too mild a remedy.

Call it "poetic justice" or "taking our country back" if that suits your vernacular better.

Either way, the fat lady is singing.

  • 33 votes
#1.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:40 AM EST

Real:

Nice play on words, similar to Obama.

Republican Christie represents what's best for the "United" States of America, bipartisan solid leadership! That is why he applauded Obama's efforts AND is the number one surrogate for Romney

Romney/Ryan with Christie for a REAL America

  • 17 votes
#1.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:06 AM EST

In 2012, the Republicans put their money on a dark horse to win the White House. The former Bain Capital CEO had little governing experience, having only served one term as governor of Massachusetts. But that didn't matter to them. The theory was that with enough Citizens United Super PAC money, they could get a monkey elected.

But less than two days before Election Day, the monkey is proving to be a dunce.

Do not vote for a cult member that wears magic underwear and believes in the planet Kolob.

  • 22 votes
#1.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:02 AM EST

From a blogger who attended an enormous turnout for Romney tonight in Pennsylvania!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

TWENTY-EIGHT, yes, 28, reasons why Romney has the right stuff and will win the White House and lead America back to greatness. Please, by all means, I ENCOURAGE readers to verify this all yourself using multiple, independent sources, like I did over a period of almost 5 years of reading and learning about Mitt Romney as I developed this list. Not one single statement came from a Romney website or mailer.

If you like it, please, PLEASE copy and paste it all over the internet wherever you can. America is simply too precious to not fight for....

ROMNEY:

- Graduated with "University Honors" from BYU (also known as "Highest Honors", their most prestigious form of recognition, somewhat equivalent to valedictorian) with a Bachelor of Arts degree in English; he's not just a numbers guy.

- Master's degree in Business (Harvard, a B

aker's scholar: top 5% of business students).

- Master's degree in Law (Harvard, graduated Cum Laude / with Honors, top 1/3 of his class).

- Earned both master's degrees (business AND law) at Harvard University simultaneously (Could you do that? I couldn't.)

- Had an incredible 80% success rate in private business and now worth between $200 and $250 million (compare this to Obama and many of Obama's closest advisers who have never had to turn a profit or go hungry, and, no, don't whine about workers Romney let go when investing in a company while at Bain Capital because you'd be forgetting to look at: A) the fact that Bain was INVITED by the companies to have Bain invest in them; there were no "hostile takeovers" by Bain Capital and B) the workers' jobs Romney saved by saving a dying company and C) the jobs he created after those struggling companies were turned around and started to grow again.

http://theweek.com/article/index/228422/4-good-things-bain-capital-did-on-mitt-romneys-watch

- Gave away his inheritance in 1998 to start / help fund the "George W. Romney Institute of Public Management" at BYU (his father, George Romney, died in 1995).

- As head of the 2002 Winter Olympics (Salt Lake City) turned a potential loss (-$379M shortfall) into one of the few profit-earning Olympic games (+$100M profit).

- Donated his entire Olympic Games salary and severance package ($1.4M) to charity.

- Put aside partisanship prejudices/trash-talk by successfully campaigning/winning the governor's seat (2003 – 2007) as a Republican in a heavily Democrat-controlled state LONG before Scott Brown.

- While governor of Massachusetts, at HIS request, served the people of MA at the salary of $1/year (that's right, ONE DOLLAR).

- Previous executive leadership experience as a state governor, including Massachusetts' Commander In Chief of state military forces (Yes, a state governor is legally the Commander In Chief of that state's National Guard forces unless those troops are called to active-duty by the President).

- Turned Massachusetts' budget from red to black while governor (- $3.0B to +$2.16B; that's "billion" with a "B").

- Cut taxes 19 times as Massachusetts governor (that's not a typo, NINETEEN).

- As MA governor, developed a plan that would make deadbeats pay for their own health care (you may not like the MA health care law but that's what it's sole purpose was. Still don't like it because of the mandate? Don't move to MA.) (BTW, how would YOU have solved the MA healthcare free-loader problem and how would you have done it with an overwhelmingly Democrat-controlled state legislature like Romney had to work with?)

- "Service over self". Romney endorsed McCain only 2 days after 'Super Tuesday' in 2008 when it became obvious McCain was the clear front-runner; America is more important to him than his ego (Can you say "He's not Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum"?)

- Volunteer service to community as a church head pastor for 13 years all with ZERO pay (that's right, none); 5 years as a "bishop" and 8 years as a "stake president".

- Would give ALL his Presidential salary ($1.6 Million total) back to the American taxpayers if elected (yes, he's on record as committing to this).

- Voluntarily turned down enrolling in Medicare when he turned 65 on March 12, 2012.
(in other words, he's NOT sucking up our precious tax dollars because he knows he can, and therefore should, take care of himself).

- He also chose to NOT receive any Social Security payments upon turning 65 because, again, he knows he can take care of himself and therefore should not rely on our tax dollars to help fund his daily living.

- Looks, talks and acts "Presidential".

- Understands commitment (never divorced, in a loving 43 year marriage).

- Understands morality (never had an affair).

- Understands family (5 kids, all successful adults).

- Willing to let all of America see his birth certificate without a fight.

- Released his last 2 years of filed tax records (2010 AND 2011) proving he's not a tax cheat; paid $1.94 million in federal income taxes in 2011giving him an effective tax rate of 14.1%. AND, the private firm which prepared Romney's taxes from 1990 through 2009 issued a letter stating that Romney paid 100% of the federal and state income taxes owed during those 20 years. The firm also said Romney's average annual effective federal tax rate was 20.2% for those 20 years. Satisfied?

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/21/pf/taxes/romney-tax-return/index.html

- Cares about his fellow man: gave $3,000,000 to charity in 2010 and $4,000,000 to charity in 2011; that's $7 MILLION in just 2 years. Would you have done that? Romney did.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/romney_the_giver_7nLMOZGuIo2zq1LmrNInjN

- He's pledged (repeatedly) that he'll repeal Obamacare and replace it with something better.

- And finally…..he's N-O-T Obama.

P.S. - If all one can say about a candidate is that they are a member of "X" church and ignore the talents and character of the person, that person does not deserve the privilege of voting.

  • 18 votes
#1.9 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:14 AM EST

Polish that turd Independent Thought.

  • 18 votes
#1.10 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:33 AM EST

Energized and ready. Fight fascism. Vote the Democratic Party ticket.

OBAMA/BIDEN tomorrow.

  • 23 votes
#1.11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:11 AM EST

Romney staff tries to hold frost bitten PA crowd hostage. “I feel like caged animal!” woman complains.
http://americablog.com/2012/11/romney-staff-refusing-to-let-frostbitten-children-leave-pa-rally.html

AND Another Account of the Story:

Romney staff refusing to let frostbitten children leave PA rally (UPDATED) - Democratic Underground http://demu.gr/10021712139

Despicable!

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:36 AM EST

I was watching Morning Joe this Monday morning(11/05) and Scarborough and friends were already conceding the election to our great President while making excuses and trying to figure out why they(republicans) lost the election. These crazy right wing republican zealots still don't get it that the majority of rational thinking Americans do not want the Republican/Teabag Taliban running our government...period.

4 more for 44.....yeehaw!!!!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:09 AM EST
  • Christie DOES NOT want Romney to win. He can't stand the man, like most in his party. Christie wants to run in 2016.
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  • Believe me, Christie would WELCOME an Obama re-election!
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  • DEMOCRATS - WE ARE ALMOST DONE. IF YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET - TOMORROW IS YOUR DAY!
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  • EVERY VOTE MATTERS!
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  • YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU! VOTE!
  • 15 votes
#1.14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:15 AM EST

Headline November 7th, 2012

ROMNEY WINS!!!...RECORD REPUBLICAN VOTER TURNOUT!!!

Hamilton County Ohio is already in the bag for ROMNEY...

AS HAMILTON COUNTY GOES...SO GOES OHIO!!!

BYE BYE OBAMA!!!

...

  • 14 votes
#1.15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:17 AM EST

Ticked off in Ohio

Nothing is in the bag for Romney. Ryan is already planning his next move when they lose. Just like Palin did four years ago at about this time. Romney/Ryan masters are in full scale panic - the numbers don't lie - they are going down.

Ryan probably will write books and speak at conventions. He may also become a Fox contributor, because he is popular with 'those people'.

  • 8 votes
#1.16 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:25 AM EST

For four years, to kill "Hope and Change", Republicans voted NO to fix the economy and NO to create
jobs.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

“No, no, no — don’t boo, vote. Vote. Voting is the best revenge.” ~ BO

Damn right.

  • 14 votes
#1.17 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:33 AM EST

@Its Simple - Better check your facts this morning. Christie has endorsed ROMNEY.

  • 10 votes
#1.18 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:48 AM EST

One more day until we turn Obummer into a lame duck .

  • 12 votes
#1.19 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:50 AM EST

Confused Voter It's called "Politics". Christie's sees the writing on the wall for Romney and knows he will need the rank and file behind him in 2016, so he is playing nice so nobody blames him later when Romney loses.

Remember the convention speech? Christie only talked about himself. There are endorsements and there are ENDORSEMENTS. NOBODY likes Romney. They see him for the con artist he is.

  • 15 votes
#1.20 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:08 AM EST

Ohio for Obama really? Looks a whole lot like it if you have union people taking Romney signs by the truck load.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/11/4_sheet_metal_works_union_loca.html

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:30 AM EST

Nate Silver used Obama data back in 2008. The same is probably true today too.

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:31 AM EST

The color blue represents those who will be gasping for oxygen on 11/7 because they were stupid enough to believe the skewed polls of the left who have been oversampling dems in large numbers varying form 6 to 11%. Oh what a rude awakening you all have. Nate's silver will be tarnished silver in a short while.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:38 AM EST
JoshOSUDeleted

Got to love it when the liberals buy into the hype of the mainstream media. Romney will win Virginia easily, and rather then blame the poor reporting you will hear liberals screaming of a stolen election. All the raw date from every major poll shows Romney leading, but those results are being manipulated into the 2008 presidential model for turnout. That will NEVER happen this year. Romney also has a 12 point lead over Obama among independents, a fact no one seems to be reporting. So liberals better prepare, unless the turnout is exactly the same as in 2008 Romney will win going away.

  • 6 votes
#1.25 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:27 AM EST

Pigotry

Good luck, Mr. President.

and our Irish American President O'bama will have the luck of Irish ... on his side.

He's going to need more than luck. The new Gallup poll out at 12PM today will confirm Romney's win tomorrow. The final Gallup poll has called every race since, oh ....1936.

ONE MORE DAY!!

ONE MORE DAY!!

ONE MORE DAY!!

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:41 AM EST

Hey, RealAmericans! Referring to your post about "voting is the best revenge", above, it's worthwhile to also point out that in 2004, the election again came down to one state's electoral votes. It seems that in Ohio, something like 40,000 votes, all originating in counties that historically have been heavily weighted to the Democrat side, were either 'switched' or simply lost altogether (oops!).

The other thing that those 40,000 votes had in common was that they were all cast on the brand-new Diebold voting machines, which by that time had already been decertified and banned outright in California, with their Secretary of state, Kevin Shelley, calling the company "fraudulent", "despicable", and "deceitful". The CEO of Diebold,Walden O'Dell, made a promise at a Republican fundraiser in 2003 that he would "deliver" Ohio's votes for Bush.

However, after having successfully stolen the most powerful office in the world not once, but twice, and having amassed an aggregate of probably north of a trillion dollars in ill-gotten gains from no-bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan, drilling and mining rights on Federal lands, cozily padded defence contracts, and God only knows what else, I think we can safely assume that the Republicans have learned their lesson... which is, CRIME PAYS!

Stand by for somebody from the Tinfoil Hat Brigade to make some idiotic and completely disproportionate comparison to Solyndra, and you can be sure that they'll (again, irrelevantly) throw in Benghazi and Fast and Furious. When you no longer have a leg to stand on, pile up the lies and slander as fast as you can and lean on that.

OBAMA/BIDEN '12- 4 MORE FOR $$! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:45 AM EST

Trotsky....Not sure you got the news through your tinfoil hat, but four Americans actually were killed in Benghazi at our State Department Consulate.

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:04 AM EST

President Obama has the Looter by 1%, that's a Win Win in my book !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.29 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:11 AM EST

Any incumbent only leading by 1% in a democratic news organization's poll is really, really bad news for the incumbent.

But Obama doesn't want to win...he wouldn't have any excuse for campaigning for 4 more years instead of fulfilling the duties of the presidency.

As an EX he can go to all the liberal colleges and continue to run his mouth for really good fees. Make the comedy show circuit. Play BB on an NBA Team. Win the Masters.

Obama just hopes he doesn't lose by too many votes or he might be relegated to retiring on his "peanut farm"...

  • 5 votes
#1.30 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:08 AM EST

He'll be banging nails with Jimmy Carter next week.

  • 3 votes
#1.31 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:08 PM EST
Nevada1050Deleted

@Chad.....can you explain to me the governing experience Obama, who either never showed up to vote or voted present as a senator had? Please do not denigrate someone else's religion. It is truly disgusting. Funny how the libs think they are so accepting. Makes me laugh.

    #1.33 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST

    What? This poll has had Obama up so much you would think he's back snorting things up his nose!

    Trying to establish some credibility the day before the election? What a joke.

      #1.34 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 5:33 PM EST

      First, you're not funny - girl! Second, the only recent president we are certain snorted snowcaine up his nose was that spineless, stupid, rich boy, born with a silver-foot in his mouth, you CONservatives dumped on us for 8 years. Finally, the pixie-dust polls Redneck Right are clinging to are about as realistic as those Pink Propserity Unicorns you guys think are going to fly over and crap money on you all if Romney wins - hahahahaha!!!! - Now that's funny.

        #1.35 - Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:42 PM EST
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        What a joyful blessing it will be when Virginia becomes solid blue. Mittens has NO mathmatical chance then.

        • 22 votes
        #2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:12 AM EST

        Virginia is much smarter than that, don't underestimate their high level of intelligence as a state!

        Romney/Ryan with Chris Christie for a bipartisan United States of America

        • 18 votes
        #2.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:35 AM EST

        I think Virginians are smart. Smart enough not to be fooled by Robme/Lyin

        • 21 votes
        #2.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:51 AM EST

        I don't underestimate the high intelligence of Virginians. I do question the segregated white/black bus and commuter lines, the gay/straight subdivisions, and the probe vs. non-prober residents of the state. Virginia still has a long way to go if it is to be for lovers. Fortunately, the Virginians I know reach across barriers - sadly, many seem to be unwilling to move.

        • 11 votes
        #2.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:52 AM EST

        Now remember RedDev, Loving vs Virginia is definately about lovers! =)

        • 9 votes
        #2.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:56 AM EST

        If states like Virginia and Florida are a dead heat, then that bodes ill for Governor Romney's chances. He needs those two states to be in the bag to have any real shot at the swing states like Ohio and Iowa and the electoral college.

        • 10 votes
        #2.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:58 AM EST

        Nathan,

        Guess you have missed the ad nauseam conversations as to how elections "break." They go to the challenger at the the end, when the majority of republicans and independents vote.

        Ohio and Iowa are still in action.

        Romney/Ryan 2012

        • 16 votes
        #2.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:08 AM EST

        EMDF:

        Funny thing is, the name calling has clearly reduced your opinion to nothing. At some point, you need to have a level of sophistication.

        Romney/Ryan 2012 for a Strong US

        • 15 votes
        #2.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:10 AM EST

        I've heard that, just not sure there's enough evidence to substantiate it.

        • 6 votes
        #2.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:12 AM EST

        Nathan:

        Yes, let's wait and see. It is getting exciting.

        Romney/Ryan 2012

        • 12 votes
        #2.9 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:21 AM EST

        EMDF - I never met a Virginian I didn't love :)

        • 4 votes
        #2.10 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:59 AM EST

        IT,

        Actually the split half and half. The claim that they always break 100% for the challenger is actually incorrect. Go look at all of the past elections. The margin with undecideds is usually between 35%/65% to 50%/50%.

        • 7 votes
        #2.11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:51 AM EST

        By the Marist poll this morning Obama is up in Virginia by 1. Yeah, the Marist poll. The poll that typically has been +3 on the normal democrat polling companies that have been running +3 in favor of obama.

        • 3 votes
        #2.12 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:44 AM EST

        The vote in Va. will be determined by the amount of cognitive realists versus the slobbering fools of fantastic imaginings. Va. has an ample supply of both. Those of the former persuasion will vote for the President. The latter will fall for Romney.

        • 2 votes
        #2.13 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:17 AM EST

        In Wisconsin, as in Ohio, Florida, and other states, our GOP governor reduced the available hours and days for early voting because most GOP voters wait until election day to turn out. Problem is, they also cut the number of polling places, and complicated the voting process by confusing people as to what forms of identification are necessary. To combat this, the Democrats have done an exceptional job of encouraging early voting and getting those votes out.

        I'll be laughing when I drive by the polling places on election days and see all those stupid Republicans standing in the rain and cold waiting to vote, only to have the polling places shut down at exactly 8pm, and not allow any more GOP voters inside. Most will just turn around and go home, because it's already a foregone conclusion that Romney is a loser. In their zealousness to screw the Democrats, the GOP has actually screwed themselves. They're so good at that...

        • 4 votes
        #2.14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST

        If Virginia does not go for Romney, they will have no one to blame but themselves when the DOD jobs disappear.

          #2.15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST
          Reply

          "Virginia could go either way" sounds a little weird, heh, but I'm sure the State will vote one way or the other. Glad to see Kaine up by a few points going in, and I hope that holds.

          • 12 votes
          Reply#3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:15 AM EST

          Virginia gave the nation hate against racial marriage. They were struck down over 60 years ago. It is fascinating the hate still plays into their politics. Thank goodness for Colonel Angus .. he showed us the way to play nice politics.

          • 6 votes
          #3.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST
          Reply

          The polls haven't considered the 2010 elections. Nor do they include the 'Chick-Fil-A' day that enabled republicans to voice their objections of Obama's assault on Free Speech. Nor do the polls reflect the Scott Walker re-call vote that gained more votes than Walker received in the first place.

          Romney wants to INCREASE the number of our Naval ships rather than Obama saying the 1917 size of our navy was okay. I grew up in Norfolk and Virginia Beach and I know how important is our Navy to Virginia.

          Obama doesn't understand Virginia, but Romney does understand why our Navy cannot be reduced considering the state of world affairs.

          • 18 votes
          #4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:20 AM EST

          Pango:

          Obama can't understand, the need to be a bipartisan President either. Our nation is not all the democrat party, and his polarization will only separate us further.

          Romney/Ryan for all the Service Men and Women in this nation and abroad!!

          • 19 votes
          #4.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:31 AM EST

          Ryan said in his debate that we "can't afford Medicare" any more.

          But Mitt seems to think there's plenty of money to pay for 100 new warships.

          The last one the U.S. bought cost $7 billion.

          Personally, I'd rather keep my Medicare than have another 100 shiny, useless warships, wouldn't you?

          • 19 votes
          #4.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:43 AM EST

          Our nation is not all the democrat party, and his polarization will only separate us further.

          Oh, the myth of divisive, as spewed by independent. Guess what, Johnson was divisive when he enacted Medicare and Civil Rights. FDR was divisive when he enacted Social Security. Nixon was divisive when he continued his ugly Vietnam war. Clinton was divisive when he naively got backed into 'don't ask, don't tell'. And then their was Bush, when he told American the biggest known lie, that Iraq had WMDs. It was divisive. Quit playing the divisive card you shill .. divisive is what the country is about, going all the way back to the suffrage movement, prohibition movement, equal rights movement, civil rights movement, and all the other movements you low-brains continually fail to see.

          You want a civil war again? It could happen if you fail to keep up.

          • 15 votes
          #4.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:02 AM EST

          Obama can't understand, the need to be a bipartisan President either. Our nation is not all the democrat party, and his polarization will only separate us further.

          Romney/Ryan for all the Service Men and Women in this nation and abroad!!

          • 4

          • !

          Funny Mitt didn't mentioned our men and women During RNC he just forgot them ?

          • 9 votes
          #4.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:11 AM EST

          Red:

          Similar to Obama, you feel to be an elitist.

          A national President, using the word REVENGE, against any portion of his citizenry is deplorable! You can justify it any way you like, but none of the other actions was a President using REVENGE in a stump speech to push their agenda forward.

          As to Don't Ask, Don't Tell....it has resurrected but in a different way. This time with Benghazi.

          Romney/Ryan for no more partisan bullying

          • 12 votes
          #4.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:13 AM EST

          Razzol:

          I see you watched Tom Brokaw on Meet the Press this morning. It was a disappointing oversight but certainly not a dish...or REVENGE!

          Romeny/Ryan 2012

          • 12 votes
          #4.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:15 AM EST

          Gee Inde .. you mean when Romney felt the need to deplore the 47% of the country? Do you mean when the GOPTP felt the need to make sure the unemployed remained unemployed during the Obama administration? Do you mean when Bush was ready to send Americans to Guantanamo Bay that spoke against his policies? You see, I remember when Bush W. spoke out against Americans, and American WWII vets spoke out against Bush. You wouldn't remember that because you were too busy hiding behind a rock. Typical coward. The Nazi party would love to recruit you.

          • 13 votes
          #4.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:22 AM EST

          Red:

          Yet, again, not one of those examples did the sitting President, representing a full nation, say "REVENGE" against his own citizens.

          You can continue to throw barbs my way, but the truth is Obama is a great divider for this nation. We need bipartisanship, especially with the Captain of the ship, in order to find compromise that helps ALL Americans, not just ones that agree with Obama.

          Need I remind you, Bush and Clinton are no longer presidents. Let's discuss today's issues.

          Romney/Ryan 2012 for no more divisive leadership

          • 12 votes
          #4.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:26 AM EST

          Those that have been paying attention know the GOP has obstructed every bill and proposal this President has put forward, even ones they had previously proposed themselves. It's amazing Obama has been able to get anything done at all.

          We know very well who the dividers are as we've been watching their non stop obstructionism and filibusters. And it's coming back to bite them in the ass, especially in Ohio.

          • 10 votes
          #4.9 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:47 AM EST

          in order to find compromise that helps ALL Americans, not just ones that agree with Obama.

          The GOPTP doesn't want comprise. It wants Taliban rule over Americans and we won't stand for it. Thankfully we have Obama that won't settle for your religious rule. Thankfully, we have liberals who won't stand your sick ideas. You feign independent, but you are nothing of the sort. You are a hater of everyone but anyone who supports your backward views. That isn't compromise, that is dictatorship.

          • 9 votes
          #4.10 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:05 AM EST

          Red:

          I was a moderate, independent, UNTIL I saw the direction of this nation, then stepped to the right. Read my posts through the years, if you don't believe me.

          Romney/Ryan 2012

          • 8 votes
          #4.11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:17 AM EST

          And read I did .. and what I read is you despise groups. You hate women for example. You do not support equal pay, equal rights for women. Sure, give them some tidbits, but overall, those bossy bitches don't deserve what they ask for. Next??

          • 11 votes
          #4.12 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:46 AM EST

          Independent,

          again you lack the proper context for the statement. Obama used revenge in meaning if you do not like what the GOP House has done over the past four years then vote them out. honestly Republicans and Right-leaners read wayyy to much into single words. Like Biden forgetting to add a single word in his event speech the other day about there not being a day that he has not been proud to be the VP.

          • 12 votes
          #4.13 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:55 AM EST

          And yet Willard admitted he was wrong and Obama was right on Foreign Affairs.

          • 8 votes
          #4.14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 5:58 AM EST

          Independent have you kept up with the latest on Benghazi? It might be a shock to some, but FOX Nes lied about the timeline and government efforts.

          http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/11/02/164140811/u-s-offers-new-details-of-deadly-libya-attack

          In callling President Obama divisive, you forget about the deliberately pre-planned and implement obstructionism by the Republican Party as detailed in the book, "Ask Not What Good We Do" by Robert Draper. Lest you think it's a work of partisan fiction, Newt Gingrinch confirmed being at the Inauguration day dinner meeting and the details. It's a simple fact that it takes BOTH parties to be willing to be bi-partisan for cooperation to work.

          • 6 votes
          #4.15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:45 AM EST

          Wasn't it Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Teabag Taliban that stated on the day our President was elected that "Our number one priority was to make the Obama a one term President at any cost". Well the fact that the republicans relished keeping the economy in the dumps and obstructing every piece of legislation that would have potentially improved our country literally "cost" the gop this election. And good riddance to all of those crazy right wing religous zealot Teabag Talibaners. Does anybody think these crazy connies will learn a lesson from all of this??? Basically, no....................

          • 6 votes
          #4.16 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:25 AM EST

          Independent Thought,

          Your posts are neither independent, or thoughful...consider a name change...

          and one of your above posts refers to Governor Christie as "Christ Cristie". I'm sure Christ would be spinning in his grave, if he had one...didn't Jesus say, "It is easier for a governor of New Jersey to fit through the hole of a donut, than it is for a rich man to buy the Presidency," or something like that?

          • 2 votes
          #4.17 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:12 AM EST

          G-Man,

          You can't tell blind fools like Independent Stinker the truth, they will ignore it in order to spout their own twisted lies. He calls President Obama devisive and not willing to work across the aisle yet conveniently forgets when Mitch McConnell said that their number one priority was to make Obama a one-term president at the beginning of Obama's term. Independent represents the ignorant, low-intelligent, voters of the right who only listen to Fox and Rush and twist the obvious truth into some version that suits their warped view. Independent is one of those poor idiots who have been converted by the lies of Romney and clan because it's easier to believe a lie than to do research and determine for yourself.

          • 1 vote
          #4.18 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST

          Those of you continuing to excerpt McConnel quote, do some research. It is not what you think. Read Woodward's book.

            #4.19 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:47 PM EST
            Reply

            "Obama Was Right On Navy, Says Former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig"

            "You don't measure efficacy by the number of ships. You measure it by your firepower, by the character of your people, the character of your equipment."

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/obama-navy-richard-danzig_n_2005201.html

            .

            O & JOE!

            • 16 votes
            Reply#5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:28 AM EST

            Danzig is an Obama advisor. Go figure that he supports Obama's policies.

            • 12 votes
            #5.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:31 AM EST

            Tell that to those in the Navy, and see how they feel.

            Romney/Ryan for a Strong America!

            • 13 votes
            #5.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:31 AM EST

            Gosh Indi - I thought you GOPTP hated government employees. Now you are for government employees. Why can't you make you mind up? One day, Go Navy, the next day, fire all government employees.

            • 9 votes
            #5.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:29 AM EST

            Red:

            You are goating, I am sure you're a gem to married to, if so lucky. I support our military, and a strong defense, last time I looked that was something on the conservative side of the arc.

            Also, never said fire all the government employees, but did say to cut the fat!

            Romney/Ryan 2012

            • 10 votes
            #5.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:50 AM EST

            Really Indi - now you are just like you BFF Romney .. can't decide what you are for or against. So you support a bigger military. You must like the 2 trillion that Romney will add to the debt to support that plan. Go ahead and push that forward.

            • 8 votes
            #5.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:09 AM EST

            Red:

            No, sorry I do know exactly who I am for and who I am against this election year. The plan for the future has loads of issues to address. Obama lost my faith when he spent more time in Hollywood than was indicative of a national leader, missed 60% of security briefings, and had nothing in his campaign speeches that demonstrated a plan or collective thinking.

            Fortunately for you, I am willing to welcome you aboard. :)

            Romney/Ryan 2012

            • 7 votes
            #5.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:20 AM EST

            Wow - 60 whole percent of his national security briefings. Big number eh, ever run a business and looked at what is important vs. what needs attention? But surely you know .. you would spend useless time paying attention useless.

            • 7 votes
            #5.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:52 AM EST

            Romney announced that, as President, he'll need all those bayonettes the Defense Department used to have, once people find out that he has no real plan to create 15 million jobs, and lied about it all along.

            The French knew what to do with their entitled class...guillotines, not higher taxes, are a permanent solution.

            • 2 votes
            #5.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:18 AM EST
            Reply
            Nevada1050Deleted

            The world has changed in many ways. The military has been stating the need for a new form of fighting force, lighter, faster, more agile. Yes, ships are necessary, but new combat development, especially in the area of protection from the cyber world will be essential, perhaps Virginia and other states will be a part of that action. But to put a 2 trillion add on for military "stuff" for the corporations and not requested by the military seems foolhardy. It would explode the debt even further. The budget cuts to actual military "action" would mean funds could be utilized in R&D, and maintenance of our returning troops and the veterans.

            Part of the cutting the cost of the military will be the wind down in Afghanistan, and the cut off of payments to "private" security, e.g. Blackwater types, and the stopping of "nation building" (see Cheney's old company and his compadres. That will be a good cut to military spending. Military research and development will continue.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:37 AM EST

            Jody- Privatizing the military was one of the single most disastrous decisions by Reagan. We either support a military, or we are against a military. But to offshore military is diabolical. I would prefer a nation that supports a military when we need it, and support that military effort during a conflict. A nation that outsources a military is doomed to fail.

            • 9 votes
            #7.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:33 AM EST
            Reply
            Nevada1050Deleted
            Nevada1050Deleted

            Hurricane Sandy has done of us all a favor-

            by causing us to focus on Romney's skewed thinking:

            Consider Romney’s advice for storm & disaster survivors:

            "Don’t be a victim, and stop looking for handouts!"

            And.... ask your parents for help!

            Heck, Romney will dismantle FEMA and the EPA

            (= more $$$ for his people/corporations).

            Leave it to the states, he says.

            Yeah, sure. The damage from Katrina was FOUR times Louisiana’a state budget!

            Maybe Romney will make us dams.... out of his used Etch-A-Sketches?

            What we need is a tidal wave.......of voters.....

            to sweep these kind of guys out of power.

            THAT is the BEST way to help the victims of present and future Sandys.

            ...AND ....the best way to help yourself, and your family.

            Obama does not dismiss 47% of America like Romney.

            Obama says: This is not a Republican America.

            This is not a Democratic America.

            This is the UNITED States of America.

            p.s. This is not mere rhetoric. For in many ways, Mitt Romney's opposition to federal disaster relief programs is what the election is all about. President Barack Obama supports using government to help those in a crisis get back on their feet. Mitt Romney believes that government has no role in helping people who are dealing with disaster. Those two very different views of America's future are on the ballot next week. Your choice. Choose well. Choose as if your life depended on it.

            Because some day.....it just might.

            We know from Mitt's values (or lack of them) that he's not a Christian.

            But heck, he's not even a Mormon. Come on Mitt, let’s be honest:

            YOUR REAL GODS ARE MONEY AND GREED.

            And your saints are those who have the most money

            ..... those who want to BUY this ELECTION - and this COUNTRY

            ......and TO HELL with the rest of us.

            They try to drown us out with their dollars.

            But WE still have a voice. And it’s called our VOTE.

            We need a President for ALL the people -

            NOT a President of the wealthy, by the wealthy,

            and for the wealthy. And for sure, that ain’t you Mitt.....

            • 16 votes
            Reply#10 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:40 AM EST
            Nevada1050Deleted
            Reply
            • 11 votes
            Reply#11 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:42 AM EST

            So much for Ticked Off's claim that Obama was being in early voting.

            • 4 votes
            #11.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:15 AM EST
            Reply

            Ryan said to get people out of poverty was to teach them "good discipline and character" So, remember, if you are poor, you are of BAD CHARACTER....Who would vote for this MORON? Seriously, it's as bad as the 47% remark from flip-flop Romney

            • 13 votes
            Reply#12 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:49 AM EST
            Nevada1050Deleted

            Aw shucks Nevada .. do as Moses did, go wander 40 years in the desert.

            • 7 votes
            #12.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:39 AM EST
            Nevada1050Deleted

            Nevada,

            that's not what Michelle said. If you're going to quote someone, learn to read first.

            • 2 votes
            #12.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:58 AM EST
            Reply
            Nevada1050Deleted

            The facts remain - America is not recovering and we cannot wait for another 4 more years for it to happen. Many of you have jobs but do you know what it is like to wait 66 weeks of unemployment and then get 2 part time jobs? The east coast-9 states in all- hurting and a walk about with Chris Christie and President Obama is good for their political careers and looks great on T.V.- are these victims supposed to wait 4 more years for assistance? Many of them no longer have a job and do not even know if the building they worked in is still standing. It took Ann Curry to tell us about Staten Island-Mayor Bloomberg didn't tell us. Biden, Mrs. Biden, Mrs. Obama said/did nothing to even acknowledge the storm affects. Romney/Ryan for this voter.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#14 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:06 AM EST

            No recovering eh? What about the rising stock market, the tool of your party. What about the rising housing market values. What about the improvements in the employment sector. What about the massive earnings of CEOs. Oops, you hate working 2 jobs, well, isn't that what you said you wanted? Why are you complaining now?

            You want better jobs, better benefits, demand them from your employer. They have trillions in cash they don't want to spend on you.

            • 9 votes
            #14.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:49 AM EST
            Reply

            Sadly, Obama might win this election. We should at least consider the consequences of that so we will not be surprised.

            Under Romney, inflation may be relatively mild; under Obama it will be brutal.

            Ironically it is the 47% who now pay no income taxes that will have the nastiest surprise coming. Printing money out of thin air - $6,000 per household and counting - will cause massive inflation. That inflation, in turn, reduces the value of everyone's dollar by exactly the same amount - rich/poor, industrious/lazy - it doesn't matter. Those 47% may be able to keep all the money they get, but it will buy a lot less gas and groceries. The difference is what Obama uses to fund his reckless spending.

            Inflation is far worse for the 47% than a flat tax, because it will have a disproportionately large effect on those with fixed incomes.

            • 12 votes
            Reply#15 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:13 AM EST

            Kannin - 10 days of Benghazi bashing and you gave it up? Why is that, too many new conflicting stories that smashed your beliefs all to hell. Well, glad you found some new fodder (pig @!$%#) to feed you grinder. You must be so happy to give that cause.

            • 6 votes
            #15.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:45 AM EST

            Kannin,

            Don't worry, the truth (a.k.a. exact happenings) will surface.

            Romney/Ryan 2012

            • 10 votes
            #15.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:48 AM EST

            Well, how quaint - would that be the blue pill or the red pill?

            • 4 votes
            #15.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:50 AM EST

            Red - since you bring the subject up, there is some very significant new information about the Benghazi betrayal:

            According to a senior intelligence official:

            CIA officials in Libya sent a security team to the consulate within 25 minutes of the report of the attack

            There was no second-guessing of decisions made on the ground and no order to anybody to stand down in providing support. "At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could,"

            Obama should certainly be included as one of the "most senior officials in Washington." He, therefore, must have been "fully engaged" in less than 25 minutes.

            Obama said, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives -- Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.”

            So, less than 26 minutes after the start of the attack, our Commander-in-Chief ordered "make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” We had plenty of military assets in the Middle East, AC-130U Gunships, attack helicopters, counter-terrorism teams etc. They had 7 hours 46 minutes in which to help secure our personnel. And they did nothing?? The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the commander of U.S. Africa Command and the commander of U.S. European Command all ignored a direct order from the Commander-in-Chief, and did nothing? Hard to believe ...

            • 9 votes
            #15.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:54 AM EST

            Really Kannin - you sure you're up on the latest? Nah, we should believe wholeheartedly in you, the 007 guy.

            • 5 votes
            #15.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:18 AM EST

            Red - Well buddy, you got me there! I had completely missed the following article posted just yesterday:

            "Despite a carefully narrated version of events rolled out late this week by the CIA claiming agents jumped into action as soon as they were notified of calls for help in Benghazi, security officials on the ground say calls for help went out considerably earlier -- and signs of an attack were mounting even before that.

            The accounts, from foreign and American security officials in and around Benghazi at the time of the attack, indicate there was in fact a significant lag between when the threat started to show itself and help started to arrive.

            According to the CIA, the first calls for assistance came at 9:40 p.m. local time from a senior State Department official at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, to the CIA annex about a mile away.

            But according to multiple people on the ground that night, the Blue Mountain Security manager, who was in charge of the local force hired to guard the consulate perimeter, made calls on both two-way radios and cell phones to colleagues in Benghazi warning of problems at least an hour earlier. Those calls allegedly went to local security contractors who say that the CIA annex was also notified much earlier than 9:40 p.m. U.S. military intelligence also told Fox News that armed militia was gathering up to three hours before the attack began.

            One source said the Blue Mountain Security chief seemed "distraught" and said "the situation here is very serious, we have a problem." He also said that even without these phone and radio calls, it was clear to everyone in the security community on the ground in Benghazi much earlier than 9:40 p.m. that fighters were gathering in preparation for an attack.

            Many of these security contractors and intelligence sources on the ground in Benghazi met twice a week for informal meetings at the consulate with Blue Mountain and consulate staff, and at times other international officials. They were all very familiar with security at the consulate -- and said the staff seemed "complacent" and "didn't seem to follow the normal American way of securing a facility."

            Both American and British sources say multiple roadblocks set up by fighters believed to be with Ansar al-Sharia were in place in Benghazi several hours before the 9:40 p.m. timeline and that communications also alluded to "heavily armed troops showing up with artillery." Fox News was told by both American and British contacts who were in Benghazi that night that the CIA timeline rolled out this past week is only "loosely based on the truth" and "doesn't quite add up."

            Fox News was also told that the local guard force meant to protect the consulate perimeter "panicked" and didn't know what to do as the attackers took up positions. Sources say other guards simply "walked away".

            One former Special Op now employed by a private company in Benghazi said that even the safe room wasn't properly set up. He said "the safe room is one of the first measures you take" and that he is "not sure how you can set a safe room without fire suppression and ventilation in case of fire." He also said, "Ambassador Stevens would likely be alive today if this simple and normal procedure was put into place."

            As details emerge of serious security issues before the attack on Sept. 11, Fox News is also beginning to hear more frustration from sources both on the ground in Benghazi and in the U.S. Multiple British and American sources insist there were other capabilities in the region and are mystified why none were used. Fox News was told there were not only armed drones that monitor Libyan chemical weapon sites in the area, but also F-18's, AC-130 aircraft and even helicopters that could have been dispatched in a timely fashion.

            • 7 votes
            #15.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:18 AM EST
            Reply

            For 3.5 years now I've been listening to Republican's yell, "Obama is going to lose in a landslide!". And they've done everything they can to see that it happens. Well here we are just a few days from the election and..they're still saying it.

            It should have occurred to me sooner that a good portion of the GOP has a tenuous grasp on reality..after all they did support Bush (twice) AND voted for McCain/Palin.

            One thing is for sure, NO ONE is losing in a landslide.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#16 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:36 AM EST

            I am confused as to why Obama is still in office. Every day I read more and more stuff that reeks--for example:

            as anyone read this book? why isnt this a bigger deal? I dont get it. Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies & Murder? Publication Date: June 15, 2009 | ISBN-10: 0578013878 | ISBN-13: 978-0578013879 The biggest untold story of the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election... Finally, the no-holds-barred, 100% true story of Barack Obama's use and sale of cocaine; his homosexual affairs and the December 23, 2007 murder of Barack Obama's former lover and choir director of Obama's Chicago church of 20 years, Donald Young, just days before the 2008 Iowa Caucus. This searing candid story begins with Barack Obama meeting Larry Sinclair in November, 1999, and subsequently procuring and selling cocaine, and then engaging in consensual, homosexual sex with Sinclair on November 6th and again on November 7, 1999. You'll read in riveting detail how Sinclair, in 2007, repeatedly contacted and requested that the Obama campaign simply come clean about their candidate's 1999 drug use and sales. You learn how the Obama campaign, David Axelrod and Barack Obama used Donald Young (the homosexual lover of Barack Obama) to contact and seek out information from Sinclair about who he had told of Obama's crimes and actions. You'll read how the Obama campaign used internet porn king Dan Parisi and Ph.D. fraud Edward I. Gelb to conduct a rigged polygraph exam in an attempt to make the Sinclair story go away. The Obama team and the controlled media - specifically MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, the New York Times, CNN, Politico's Ben Smith, The DailyKos, The Huffington Post and others - attacked the National Press Club for making its facilities available to Larry Sinclair for a news conference to present his evidence and allegations to the world media. You'll read how Vice President Joe Biden's son, Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, issued an arrest warrant on completely false, fabricated charges to attempt to discredit Mr. Sinclair's National Press Club news conference. This is a staggeringly true story of how the sitting U.S.President with the help of the Mainstream Media, the Chicago Police Department, the FBI, the Delaware Attorney General and others got away with murder and more....

            • 6 votes
            Reply#17 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:44 AM EST

            Try reading something educational instead of all that tabloid crap and maybe you'll understand why he's still in office.

            • 10 votes
            #17.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:50 AM EST

            Every day I read more and more stuff that reeks--for example:

            Sweets - when you read during sex, it gets confused. Focus sweetie, focus.

            • 7 votes
            #17.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:52 AM EST

            "Sweets" The Democrat's preferred form of address for women they don't know.

            • 7 votes
            #17.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:05 AM EST

            It is classic liberal condescension for people that think and question.............

            • 6 votes
            #17.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:07 AM EST

            Ok, I'll give you sweets .. what I really meant was deadly sperm buildup. Nothing nastier.

            • 4 votes
            #17.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:25 AM EST

            reasonablewoman,

            You are exactly the type of woman I would expect to see supporting Romney when I try to figure out how a woman could vote for him! Thanks for re-enforcing my stereotype on what type of woman would be a Romney fan. Please don't flatter yourself thinking that you are reasonable, anyone that can believe the stuff you spewed...isn't.

            • 6 votes
            #17.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:48 AM EST

            After reading this thread, why would any woman still want to be a Democrat?

            • 8 votes
            #17.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:06 AM EST

            Larry Sinclair - convicted of forgery in two states, theft by deceit, has at least 13 aliases, has an outstanding warretn for his arrest in Colorado, and has failed polygraphs. Further, he can provide NO substantiated evidence as to dates, times, circumstances, or situations regarding his claims of time with the President.

            In short, he is a liar, thief, fraud, and nut case looking to parlay a false story that the he knows that will appeal to those that want to believe the worst in President Obama and will do so without any basis in reality. He's taking Rush's, birthers, and Bill's money and laughig all the way to the bank.

              #17.8 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:06 AM EST
              Reply

              Here's my plan:

              If Obama wins, I will give up fighting to keep my small business afloat, lay off my employees, liquidate its assets, invest my retirement money in a small very high-tech, well-equipped, energy independent farm that will provide for my family's needs. I will ensure that my reportable income is around $23k so that I can take advantage of government programs, join the 47%, and retire.

              If Romney wins, I will redouble my efforts to build my business back up again, hire lots more workers, and let the liberals rant about me being a greedy fat-cat CEO who drives fancy cars.

              Either way, I'm good. What's your plan?

              • 11 votes
              Reply#18 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:48 AM EST

              I have been in business for 28 years and very successful. My business plan is set forth years in advance due to advertising and marketing. It sounds like your a completely incompetent businessman with no plan. In fact I am 100% convinced your just a liar with no business. Two business plans is no business plan. Bring these ideas to your banker and see where it goes. Your a joker.

              • 4 votes
              #18.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:44 AM EST

              And you have never heard of "contingency planning"? Ask a freshman business major what that means. You will learn something valuable.

              • 6 votes
              #18.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:04 AM EST

              So your going to base your "contingency business planning" on the outcome of an election. Your a joke and a liar.

              • 4 votes
              #18.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:14 AM EST

              "You're" it's a contraction of "you are." "Your" is the possessive form.

              You're welcome for my correction of your mistake.

              • 5 votes
              #18.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:18 AM EST

              Kannin,

              pretty simple. Keep plugging away at my software engineering degree because my Pell grant will not be slashed since Romney/Ryan did not win (if they did I would have to drop out because the Pell would be gone and so would hundreds of thousands of other students), keep farming money from my YouTube channel then create some programs I can sell online to get by until I land a decent job.

              Most competent business runners could give two craps who is in office. It is only those that have a vested interest in enforcing some kind of agenda that care. Like Big Oil or other heavy polluters that cry about the EPA.

              • 4 votes
              #18.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:25 AM EST

              @Kannin,

              You sound like a lousy entreprenuer anyway...so shut your business down. True entrepreneurs are driven by a self motivated desire to meet a need that their customers have. You are only concerned about your own needs. People like you need to be out of the business world and shouldn't have employees that depend on you, because you are selfish and undependable.

              One good thing, your plan to invest your retirement money "in a small very high-tech, well-equipped, energy independent farm that will provide for my family's needs" is exactly what future Democratic Presidents will be promoting. Glad to see you're on board with that. The "Rombies" will be huddling in caves, burning coal....LOL.

              • 3 votes
              #18.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 11:57 AM EST
              Reply

              If that is your focus, fold. You don't deserve to be in business, and no one deserves the penalty of being on your payroll.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#19 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:54 AM EST

              deserve to be in business

              "deserve to be in business" What a unique perspective. Tell us, how would Democrats like you decide on who you will allow to start a business, and who you will deny?

              • 8 votes
              #19.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:59 AM EST

              i know liberals use such interesting terms: "deserve," "fair," "sweets"......................

              • 7 votes
              #19.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:09 AM EST
              Nevada1050Deleted

              So what? Nixon lied us into Vietnam and Bush Jr. lied us into Iraq with the WMD bullsh!t, you want to keep playing poker there buddy?

              • 1 vote
              #19.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:00 PM EST

              So Turnabout - Then we're agreed: Tomorrow we vote to kick Nixon, Bush and Obama out of the White House!

              • 1 vote
              #19.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:50 PM EST
              Reply

              A wonderful night tonight....Obama expands his leads where it counts most, Ohio and Virginia, and National Geographic Channel reminds us of what true leadership really looks like.

              Smells like..........VICTORY.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#20 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:16 AM EST

              "napalm in the morning" Yep - perfect analogy for a Democrat victory...

              • 8 votes
              #20.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:26 AM EST

              Kannin,

              Still on Ignore, buddy.

              How's that Intelligent Party working out for you?

              Romney should have released his tax returns, especially for 2009. Oh well!

              • 7 votes
              #20.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:30 AM EST

              This is just to make you wonder what I might be posting ...

              • 4 votes
              #20.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:09 AM EST

              Kannin,

              I looked up what your Chinese characters mean..."Exploit the working class...vote Republican".

              • 1 vote
              #20.4 - Wed Nov 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST
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              MY PERSONAL ELECTION DAY PREDICTIONS:

              Expect a plethora of polling place horror stories from across the nation on Election Day including fistfights and resulting arrests involving Tea Party-backed poll watchers from TRUE THE VOTE et al in multiple urban precincts throughout many if not all of the eleven toss-up states.

              Expect craziness in Republican Governor Rick Scott's Florida…sheer lunacy, in fact.

              Expect unwillingness on the part of the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio, Jon Husted, to call the election in his state in a timely manner.

              Expect a mandatory recount in Colorado if the margin of victory falls below 1.0%, bearing in mind that the Republican Secretary of State in Colorado, Scott Gessler, is a doppelganger for Ohio's Jon Husted.

              Expect FOXNEWS to be clamoring for Darrell Issa-led congressional investigations into Democrat voter fraud, less real than imagined, even before the polls close.

              Expect Right Wing talk radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Erick Erickson, and Glenn Beck to begin fomenting, if not actually inciting, "popular resistance" to the certification of the legitimate Electoral College outcome, and we all know what THAT might be code for, while condemning the continued use of the Electoral College itself.

              In spite of these obstacles, Obama wins the White House with an electoral vote tally of 332 to Romney's 206, taking Colorado and Virginia while coming from behind in Florida in the process. All legal challenges to the certification of the election in federal courts are summarily dismissed with prejudice and Barack Hussein Obama is sworn in for his second term as President of the United States on January 20, 2013.

              The very next day, and with no fanfare or publicity, the lights come on in Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign headquarters.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#21 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 2:34 AM EST

              I agree with most of that but I do not think Obama will win the EC by that much, I personally think it will be closer to 303 to 238.

              • 5 votes
              #21.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:29 AM EST

              I'm hoping that we win all the contested battleground states. But in reality all we need is Ohio,Iowa,and Wisconsin for the victory. I think Florida voter suppression will lose us that one. We will win Nevada,and New Hampshire. Virginia and Colorado are too close to really say.But a victory in one or both would be nice,lol.

                #21.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:09 AM EST

                A WIN is a WIN!

                  #21.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:00 PM EST
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                  So now Republican senatorial candidate Linda McMahon is paying for bilboards throughout Connecticut asking her supporters to "Vote Barack Obama for President and Vote Linda McMahon for U.S. Senate."

                  The billboards have oversized photographs of a smiling President Obama on the left and McMahon on the right, with an italicized quote in between: "President Barack Obama and Linda McMahon will Fight for Us."

                  Source, including photo: Talking Points Memo, 11/5/2012.

                  Mitt.....buddy.......with friends like these.....

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#22 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:16 AM EST

                  If the election results are substantially different than what the alphabet national networks have been telling us, then we know Obama has promised change and delivered to us a socialist-totalitarian police state where the media and journalists are under the complete control and financing of the White House. We'll know this one way or the other on Tuesday. It's one of the most important "dots" for us to connect.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#23 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:21 AM EST

                  You might want to connect your brain to reality.

                  • 8 votes
                  #23.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:30 AM EST
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                  Nevada1050Deleted

                  Here's a surprise:

                  The New York Daily News, the country’s fifth largest newspaper, endorsed Mitt Romney on Sunday, joining the ranks of more than a dozen papers that have turned away from Barack Obama after endorsing his candidacy in 2008.

                  The paper's endorsement came as a surprise: the News has a staunchly Democratic editorial viewpoint. The Daily News is also owned by one of the country's most respected and influential Democrats, Mort Zuckerman, the billionaire real estate mogul.

                  But the New York daily staked its arguments against Obama not on politics but the economy, charging that President Obama’s promises went unfulfilled.

                  “Revival of the U.S. as a land of opportunity and upward mobility is the central challenge facing the next president,” the paper wrote. “The question for Americans: Who is more likely to accomplish the mission — Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?”

                  “Four years ago, the Daily News endorsed Obama, seeing a historic figure whose intelligence, political skills and empathy with common folk positioned him to build on the small practical experience he would bring to the world’s toughest job. We valued Obama’s pledge to govern with bold pragmatism and bipartisanship. The hopes of those days went unfulfilled.”

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#25 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:42 AM EST

                  How incredibly boring. And what does that have to do with the vote in Virginia?

                  • 3 votes
                  #25.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:48 AM EST

                  Oh really? Sorry, I was trying to post on the thread under the NBC FR headline “Liberal Press Abandons Obama”. My mistake.

                  • 8 votes
                  #25.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:54 AM EST

                  Virginia is the hub of the Atlantic fleet. Obama indicatede that naval ships at the level of 1917 was satisfactory. Romney disagreed and proposed increasing the amount of ships in our Navy.

                  Having served in the Navy, I understand why we need a strong military. Unfortunately, Obama doesn't have the same mindset. Romney understands that the U.S. needs to be strong in order to be the 'last, great hope' for for the earth.

                  Do not think that Virginians, especially in Norfolk and Virginia Beach have not seen the difference between the two candidates.

                  • 9 votes
                  #25.3 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 3:56 AM EST

                  Kannin - Such an obvious lie. Got a link?

                    #25.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:08 AM EST

                    Kannin-The Daily News is also owned by one of the country's most respected and influential Democrats, Mort Zuckerman, the billionaire real estate mogul.

                    When you mentioned Zuckerman,you said it all. He is a big supporter of the Adelson,Netanyahu, go to war with Iran crowd.

                      #25.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:13 AM EST

                      Kanin (chinese character),

                      If your a small business owner? Wouldn't it behoove you to spend more time on business, and less time sparring with people on this post? I don't think your changing any ones vote, nor making much of difference in the election.

                      The I'm rubber your glue strategy is certainly getting a workout this election.

                      As I've said many times in the past, I find it unbelievable that anyone would support Romney, The man has been on the side of everything in his political career. There is no core beliefs.

                      And to be a proud Republican, must be difficult? The cast of characters that ran in the primaries was a never ending clown show. I need not repeat their names, but at one point or another each and everyone of them was the ONE. Except Romney, who became the last man/women standing.

                      So now he is the great savior. Sorry, can't buy it.

                      • 3 votes
                      #25.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:40 AM EST
                        #25.7 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST
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                        Nevada1050Deleted

                        Scott Brown is going down. We in organized labor know that no matter how reasonable he claims to be when it comes to criticly important labor rights he will cave in to the right wingnut crazy's or get primaried the next time around. The tea party screwballs are actually in controll of the republican party, in essence there is no republican party in a traditional sense. As far as the rest if the senet races are concerned the woman will elect democrates for the most part. I can't believe how stupid the repubs are. I think a vaginal probe stuck in thier ears may work wonders!

                        OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#27 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 4:16 AM EST
                        Nevada1050Deleted
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                        Romney will have no one to blame for his loss....oh oh wait...Fox news is the culprits of doom

                        From the inanity of Hannity

                        To the dreck that spews from Beck

                        From doofus Doocy's brainless quips

                        To O'Reilly's artless blech

                        No truth in sight, all fact-free spin

                        A carnival of shocks

                        Murdoch's gift to feeble minds

                        NOBODY...DOES STUPID...LIKE FOX LMMAO

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#28 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 5:41 AM EST

                        Virginia, do you really want this man a heartbeat away from the presidency for another 4 years?

                        Watch this short debate Biden vs. Biden.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#29 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:07 AM EST

                        Va. needs to vote Romney/Ryan. We have way too much to lose with the budget cuts in DOD. And if ANYONE thinks these layoffs won't effect them then they are blind. The DOD jobs of Va. is what keeps this state going. If Obama wins they will be getting their layoff notices after the elections, Obama blocked them from getting the layoffs notices in Oct., as required by law.

                        • 5 votes
                        #29.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:49 AM EST

                        oh yes, the typical republican chant, "we need to cut the deficit, we need to cut the deficit....oh no,not DOD, just hungry children"

                          #29.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:22 AM EST
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                          This poll relies on the a bigger dem turnout than what took place in 2008. That ain't gonna happen.

                          Romney will win 300 electoral college votes.

                          Moochelle's days of feeding at the taxpayers troughare over.

                          • 7 votes
                          Reply#30 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:27 AM EST

                          Colin Powell's endorsement carries a lot of weight in Virginia. Powell is respected, Romney never was.

                            #30.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 12:13 PM EST
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                            The ONLY way Romney wins is to steal the election. And GOP is trying their best to do just that.

                            Dems, Independent, moderate Repubs....get out and vote for President Obama....get your friends and neighbors out...do not let GOP steal this election.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#31 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 6:38 AM EST

                            Romney steal the election? Tell me how can someone steal an election? Is like the people around my area going around in the middle of the night stealing all the Romney/Ryan signs out of peoples yards? Obama is going down, time for him to move on

                            • 5 votes
                            #31.1 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 7:52 AM EST

                            plantlady,

                            steal the election, not possible? Look at Bush/Gore.

                            • 1 vote
                            #31.2 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 8:49 AM EST
                            JoshOSUDeleted

                            plant: Repub Govs have put in place Voter ID laws that are not needed....they can never prove there is voter fraud. Repub Govs have limited early voting days and hours, many in primary areas that vote Dem.

                            GOP voter registars have sent mis-leading flyers to primary Dem voters, like Latinos with the wrong voting date.

                            A major pro-Romney group, including one of his sons, purchased last July the 3rd largest voting maching company in US. This company's machines will count approximately 17.7 million votes. Some of these machines are in Ohio counties.

                            josh; Oh you potty mouth.

                              #31.4 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:20 AM EST

                              ...and Josh thinks is the democrats causing all the division......

                                #31.5 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:24 AM EST
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