Vice President Joe Biden speaks at a campaign rally in Arvada, Colorado criticizing Romney's policies towards China as 'malarkey'.
ARVADA, Colo. -- Ka-zing.
Three days before the election, Vice President Joe Biden pegged his newest critique of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to the semi-annual inconvenience of adjusting clocks for Daylight Savings Time, which occurs tonight.
"It’s Mitt Romney’s favorite time of the year -- because he gets to turn the clock back!" Biden told a crowd of hundreds at a suburban Denver high school.
In his remarks, the vice president accused Romney of embracing social policies out of an earlier era, pointedly noting the GOP nominee's voiced enthusiasm for "getting rid of" Planned Parenthood.
"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said. "And by the way, he doesn't even know he doesn't control Planned Parenthood."
"He should talk to Big Bird!" he added, referencing the scuffle over public broadcasting funding that broke out during one of the presidential debates.
(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)
Biden has two events scheduled in swing state Colorado Saturday. He will campaign Sunday in Ohio.


Biden's confused... he thinks America is voting for 'Entertainer of the Year', not Commander-In-Chief.
The point you are trying to make is that Obama is Satan. Do you honestly think that anyone will take you seriously?
"Biden told a crowd of hundreds"
Hundreds? That's pathetic, nobody even shows up for this clown.
0bama only gets 2,800 to show up in Cleveland while Romney draws 30,000 in his Franklin County rally.
Ohio is going to Romney for sure.
Ticked off,
You have been posting this very lengthy cut and paste on all the threads today.
go seed this post on Newvine and not here.
but you will have to give your link to the source of this list.
Plagiarism is not allowed.
Keep him away from the movie theaters. Romney is losing, and Ticket isn't happy.
Ticked off in Ohio: What a bunch of BS! Hell, you don't even make sense to Ohio voters! They're rejecting your BS like everyone else. Why not grow up, stop posting half truths, innuendos, and outright lies. No one gives a damn about the BS you thrive on.
Way to tell it Uncle Joe. Willard Romney is nothing more than a talking lying buffoon. And that is a FACT.
elliot: What kind of an analytical mind have you? The fact that the President is leading in most of the "close call" states, and losing in the most poorly educated and economically poorest red states ought to tell you something. Oh, I understand. You're from one of the red states.
Updated for Noon EST on Saturday, November 3, 2012:
*** Spoiler alert: The overnight numbers from both RCP and FiveThirtyEight broke quickly, repeatedly, and decidedly in President Obama's favor.
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Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With only 60 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report that Obama holds increasing leads in eight of their 11 toss-up states while Romney clings to smaller and more static leads in the remaining three.
In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of Noon EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:
In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 5.4%, up from 5.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 94.2% chance of victory here, up by 0.9% overnight and by an astounding 8.5% since Tuesday.
In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.6%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.6% chance of victory here, up by 0.5% overnight and by a respectable 2.5% since Tuesday.
In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 3.5%, up from 3.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up 0.2% overnight and by 0.5% since Tuesday.
In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.9%, up from 2.6% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 83.8% chance of victory here, up by 3.1% overnight and by an astonishing 10.5% since Tuesday.
In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.7% chance of victory here, up by 1.5% overnight and by an astounding 9.0% since Tuesday.
In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.7% chance of victory here, down interestingly by 0.9% overnight but up overall by a substantial 6.8% since Tuesday.
In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.8%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.4% chance of victory here, up by 1.7% overnight and by an astonishing 10.1% since Tuesday.
In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% on Friday.FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 67.9% chance of victory here, up by 2.2% overnight and by an astronomical 12.5% since Tuesday.
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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 0.3%, down from 0.5% on Friday. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here (and not Romney's) to 67.0%, up 2.2% overnight. Nate Silver must be seeing something...
In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 1.4%, up from 1.2% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 54.8% chance of victory here, but this margin is actually down a stunning 9.9% from Tuesday.
It should be noted that RCP's average in Florida does appear to have been hyper-inflated by two recent outlier findings in favor of Romney, the first a 6.0% margin today from the unapologetically right-leaning Mason-Dixon Group with localized results for only the two cities of Tampa Bay (site of the 2012 RNC) and Miami (Marco Rubio stronghold), the second a 3.0% margin from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital, and an appreciably older finding by The Sunshine State News, an ultra-conservative website/blog which had Romney leading by 5.0% on October 24. Minus the influencesof these extreme outliers, Romney's true lead is likely well under 1.0% and quite possibly closer to that of dead heat. Ah, Florida....
In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 79.6% chance of victory here, down 0.3% overnight.
So...
In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Michigan at 3.5%, Ohio at 2.9%, and Nevada at 2.7%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.
However, should Obama fail to hold the strategic prize of Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:
Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but holds the remaining three states where he presently leads, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking only one state from among New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.
Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:
Path #3: Obama comes from behind at the wire to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, and Michigan at 3.5%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in both Colorado where Obama's lead rose Friday to 1.0% and in either Ohio (where Obama's lead today is 2.9%, up from Friday's 2.6%) or in Pennsylvania (where Romney's campaign suggested earlier this week that Obama's significant lead of 4.6% may be vulnerable). By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275 or 277, respectively.
Romney's newfound "Pennsylvania Strategy," however, may be a highly-marketed feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida.
In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 1.8%, Iowa at 2.0%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.
FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 83.7% (up markedly from Friday morning's 80.9%) and Romney 16.3% (down markedly from Friday's 19.1%).
FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 305 (up 6 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 233 (down 6 from Wednesday's 239).
Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.6% (up from Thursday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from Thursday's 48.6%).
With only 60 hours of campaigning left, and with Friday's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.
Mow the yard and stock up on popcorn today, people....Tuesday night is gonna be a whirlwind!
Wow, old Dicked off in Ohio is missing the meds.
Willard drew 15,000, not 30,000. He even lies about that. Pathetic.
elliot,
He was not in Franklin County. I live in Franklin County … Columbus is in Franklin County.
He was in Cincinnati which I believe to be in Hamilton County.
As I expected would happen...
All you libtards pile on me, but not 1 single worthless POS one of you has even tried to refute any of Obamas flip flops listed.
Oh wait I know...Obama "evolves" right?
My God Ticked off and Elliot are going to have heart attacks with all this new Information saying President Obama is going to win. Ticked what happened to Ohio is Rep. period??????? I am thinking you don't know your own state like you think you do!!! And Elliot your just stupid. Obama is going to WIN deal with it boys. Romney can try again in 4. What will that make, like 20 of running for President. That's more the Regan ran.
Romney IS going to win and it's not going to be that close!
Headline Wednesday November 7th, 2012
ROMNEY WINS! "RECORD REPUBLICAN VOTER TURNOUT"
Here's what the non partisan Congressional Research Service has to say about cutting taxes to increase income. (Summary below)
Throughout the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it is 35%. Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the 1970s; today it is 15%. The real GDP growth rate averaged 4.2% and real per capita GDP increased annually by 2.4% in the 1950s. In the 2000s, the average real GDP growth rate was 1.7% and real per capita GDP increased annually by less than 1%.
There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.
The share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009 recession. The evidence does not suggest necessarily a relationship between tax policy with regard to the top tax rates and the size of the economic pie, but there may be a relationship to how the economic pie is sliced.
Since Romney's whole platform is refuted by these findings, Senator Mitch McConnell (R) blocked the release of the Report. It surfaced again in the Nov 1 2012 New York Times.
We just want to be awed with more of your retroactive predictions of presidential outcomes since 1980. Here are mine -
1980/84 - Reagan
1988 - Bush
1992/96 - Clinton
2000/04 - Bush W
2008 - Obama
How did I do compared to 'the model'?
I actually live in one of the bluest states. And you were right. Romney was in Butler county, three times smaller than Franklin County where 0bama had his rally yet Romney drew more than ten times the crowd.
And no I wont be too bummed if 0bama wins, our country can handle it.
This just further supports what we already know - the GOPTP treat facts and figures like a dog treats a bone - they bury them. If it's a lie - produce an ad and spend millions to double down on it.
RedDev,
Well if you understood the theory behind the model you'd realize just how closed, and small your tiny mind is.
But since you don't and I don't want to explain it to you...mainly because I don't think you'd comprehend it anyway....I'll just leave it at that.
The difference between Romney and Obama is that one flip-flops while campaigning. The other flip-flops while serving as President.
LOL Trolled off in Ohio is doubly pissed because Ohio will be why Romney loses.
That's gotta smart for you. BAD. :D
Hardware stores are reporting a major run on stocks of rope.
Cemeteries are also reporting a major increase of pre-paid plots.
Seems the Republicans are starting to take the polls more seriously and are getting ready for Tuesday night.
THATS RIGHT...RECORD TURNOUT!
elliot,
I didn't see much coverage for the fact that Obama had 35,000 in Madison and they had to turn away 10,000 two weeks ago. While Romney got 6,000 in Milwaukee! You were probably watching FOX and there was little coverage, of course, being so "Fair and Balanced!" LOL!
So could or world one of the Romney / Lying Ryan supporters out there please tell me why Romney is trailing by his largest margin of 28% in his home state of Mass.? Doesn't that tell you and me something about the job he did over the job he wants us to think he will do? I know that the workers in Freeport, Illinois who work for Sadente (sp), a Bain China transport company, have been protesting they are losing their jobs because of Mitt the Twitt!
OBAMA CANT DRAW A CIRCLE THIS GO-ROUND
After holding mostly small and mid-size rallies for much of the campaign, Obama's team is planning a series of larger events this weekend aimed at drawing big crowds in battleground states. Still, the campaign isn't expecting to draw the massive audiences Obama had in the closing days of the 2008 race, when his rallies drew more than 50,000.
"You want to know that your president means what he says and says what he means," Obama told a 4,000-person crowd in northeast Ohio. "And after four years as president, you know me."
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_21920597?source=commented-
I guess you can't expect much from a group that reveres people like Billy Clinton. How many of you you libs would leave your daughter alone in the oval office with that POS!
But that's OK go vote for your "messiah" and he'll lower the oceans along with unemployment and the deficit.
Ticked,
You're just a little out of it. Obama drew 90,000 in Madison in the 2008 race. Look again "Ticked" as he's going to be in Madison again Monday. Of course the 45,000 that just saw him two weeks ago don't count do they! Keep in mind the only numbers that count are on Tuesday!
I'd trust him with my daughter more than Murdock in Indiana! Of course, that is because I raised my daughter right! I raised her as a republican like I used to be and on her own she said that what I read and hear from the GOP makes it the God Awful Party dad. We both changed about the same time so no more votes for Nixon, Goldwater or Reagan. Those former conservative republicans who would now be classified a LIBERALS by the nuts running the party now!
Go right ahead clwyd-2621393 but I love and respect my daughter too much to trust that perv.
Tjefferson, the "unbiased" media said about Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin too. So tell me how did that work out for ya?
HEY clwyd,
YOU MEAN THE 17,000 THAT OBAMA SPOKE TO IN MADISON IN 2008?
The president is headed to Madison as part of a series of rallies in swing states leading up to the election. But where he drew a crowd of 17,000 at the University of Wisconsin in 2008 during the presidential race, crowds are expected to be significantly smaller this time around
F'N LIBTARD LIARS!!!
"REVENGE" is Obama's vocabulary word of choice. Wasn't that a middle school bully word? Wow, now that is a true leader of the free world.
REVENGE Obama? An all time new low. Remember all those sweet words you said back in 2008? Now I know why Oprah is NO WHERE to be found.
REVENGE? You have the job of leading the greatest "democratic" society in the free world. DISGUSTING!!!!
Romney/Ryan for a STRONG America
revenge moron for the obstructionist in congress!!!!
"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.
(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)
Pretty sad when even NBC has started correcting Biden's lies.
P.S.
"He should talk to Big Bird!" he added,
Well, at least Biden knows his audience; too dumb to care about anything that matter, so throw them some meaningless, small-minded catch phrases to comprehend and repeat to themselves.
Is it a campaign for the U.S. presidency or an elementary school pep rally? just pathetic.
can't wait 'til Wednesday morning when "ticked...in ohio" has to be strapped down. Good luck on your new meds pal.
My vote is without a doubt Revenge against the Republican Congress. The DO NOTHING Congress.
I voted for a Democrat for the first time in 2 elections against David Reichert in Washington. I expect him to win still but he won't get my vote ever again. He went from being a Semi-Moderate Republican to a Tea Bagger and lost it for me.
@Ticked off in Ohio have you taken the same amount of time and determination to dissect Governor Romney or are you going to implicitly trust him because he asked you to?
He did take quite a swerve, there, didn't he? I voted against Reichert too, and I knew him personally from when his office used to be out on Mercer Island.
I don't know about revenge, but I do feel that Congress has not been serving the citizens of the USA very well at all . . .
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@pjam09, Actually MSNBC was in fact wrong when they "corrected" Biden. Romney's promise to defund Planned Parenthood is aimed directly at shutting it down. A Romney government would not want to be accused of funding an institution that will perform medical procedures that the same government wants to criminalize. So Biden is correct, it just takes a little more intelligence then either the reporter or you appear to have to be able to make the connection.
"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said. "And by the way, he doesn't even know he doesn't control Planned Parenthood."
There are a lot of things that Romney is unaware of. Like the fact that he might be going to jail.
Legal Analysis Outlines Potential Crime In Mitt Romney’s Financial Disclosures | MoveOn.Org
Hey Roz
Yes I have, I've been watching and vetting Romney since 2008...Thats why I voted for him. He's a good man with the business experience this country needs to get our house in order.
ticked off in Ohio, thanks for the update on what Pres. Obama has been doing the last 4 years. I see you had nothing on what the Republican have done. I hate lazy people who don't do anything and expect a pay check. Tell your Republican lazy A$$es to give back there unearned WAGES.
Hey sid
Not a problem, since he hasn't done much...took almost no time!
Ryan is still on the ballot in Wisc. for congressman. Says a lot about what he thinks of willards chances.
There's many, many reasons not to vote for Obama, Biden is just one of them! Who wants a VP whose best characteristic is comedic misspeak? Really...! This guy is a 'heartbeat away'.... how can any American be comfortable with that?
Yesterday he said he was told to go on vacation after the election! Good advice... take a long vacation sleeply Joe!
If Romney/Ryan get elected then it's good by to social security, vouchers for medicare, FEMA, Pell grants, etc,etc,etc. It's big bucks for the wealthy, more war except for his kids, and lots of good times for the wealthy because they stuck it to us. The country is going in the right direction, please don't stop it now and go backwards by voting for romney and ryan.
Obama/Biden 2012 and all democrats to move forward
Remember change your clocks tonight and your president on Tuesday.
Michael 1.51, you are speaking through your a$$! Just like sleepy Joe!
Romney's currently ahead overall in the polls :)
Ron & Jeff:
Guess a photo op with Republican Chris Christie wasn't quite enough time for Obama to learn how to be a real leader. SAD.
REVENGE? With that mentality, he reduces himself to a 5th grade cry baby. How about, "I will do whatever it takes to work with the Congress." Hmmm?
Romney/Ryan 2012
Its over folks copy paste all you want....nothing is going change the direction of this ship that has set sail!
You have another chance in 4 years when Hillary Runs!!
My advice is back off the religious crap and start helping the people of the country.
Vote Obama Biden 2012!! End the Blockade of our Nations Recovery by the republican party.
Sorry JD, a vote for obama means increased gridlock as the Republicans will gain in House and probably get majority in Senate as well this election....!
Obviously a vote for Romney/Ryan means no gridlock and quicker recovery of the mess obama has put us in!
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012.... to really move forward!
Biden -
Whoever said it first was right.. "A smile pushing a suit".
He doesn't even know how old he is.. Very sad to watch him in his fading years, desperately trying to tie thoughts and phrases together.
At least he has great healthcare.
Where is Friday's Biden quote? "Not one day in the last 4 years have I been proud to be Obama's vice president. NOT one day."
Since the Left has this whole thing figured out, Romney is wasting his time. I predict that you liberal thinkers wont be happy come wednesday morning. I realize that liberals are much smarter than conservatives , but everyone makes an error at least once in their lifetime.
Is anyone else really tired of the childishness and pettiness of the Obama/Biden campaign? Talk about pissing on the office of the president. I thought Clinton disrespected the office, these guys are embarrassing.
Sad is watching Romney pretending he'll be the one making decisions if he wins.
All Barry-0's Campaign stops are just mini-concerts now....the shrinking crowds are coming out to see Bruce or bon jovi or Katy Perry or some other fawning for 0bama celeb,....Revenge is the 0bama battle cry now...
And the Press, giving Biden a pass all the time " Oh, that's just Joe, being Joe"....Pathetic...He's one heartbeat away.....Do you know why P.0bama picked Biden for VP.....to prove he didn't need one....whoever heard of a Vice-King ????
You gotta see some of the articles on MSN now that you can't comment on....
"Women voters less enthusiastic on Obama this time"
http://t.news.msn.com/politics/women-voters-less-enthusiastic-on-obama-this-time
"Poll: Older voters prefer Romney on healthcare, Medicare"
http://t.news.msn.com/politics/poll-older-voters-prefer-romney-on-healthcare-medicare
No wonder NBCNews divorced them...INFIDELITY TO DEAR LEADER
I think that NBC cut the part where Biden thought he was in Ohio and not Colorado. The man is a joke -- he is senile. How can news media cut out the obvious. He thought we were fighting in Iran (Harry Reid - also senile agreed with him). What is this country coming to?
Ticked off in Ohio's real name is R. Sole.
Ticked off, You Troll!
The Monday night before the election in 2008. Barack Obama's last campaign stop was at the Prince William County Fairgrounds, Virginia. I was there. Prince William County police estimated a crowd of 100,000 ... at the same time ... Down the road, in Fairfax, the next county over, in Springfield, Virginia. John McCann's rally at Interstate Van Lines drew a crowd of 6500.
Obama 2012 / Ozzy Osbourne 666 / Romney 1040
With Bail out number 3 in full swing, and the banks getting more Free money, Obama is thinkking his odds of winning might just pay off. After all Americans are to stupid to look up stuff on there own and buy the main stream media hook line and sinker !
Benghazi and Youtubegate, Obama at the UN stump talking about our Freedom of speech needs limits so we don't offend ??
Fast and Furious , Obama at the stump talking with Mexico's President, saying out 2nd amendment rights need to be taken...
Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money , Give me your Freedoms !
Help him finish taking what he started, Help him Finish America !
One way to save a few pennies on the federal budget would be to simply have one paid representative speak and vote Republican in each the House and the Senate. That person would be allowed a vote for each district or state election the Republican won.
Norquist would be a good choice since he has never run for anything and could clearly enunciate the Republican mantra without having to be bogged down representing the people.
Mike - simply one of the best lines I've read here in a long time. Awesome.
Thanks!
It was pretty much set from the beginning. Romney's bucket had too many holes to contain all that thin bullsh^t. Ryan? Whaaaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha..................................................................... Pitiful!
You right wingers will believe anything that comes out of Rush or Fox. Please tell me what freedoms Obama has taken from you? Regulations on small businesses have been reduced, spending has decreased, job creation has increased, if by youtube gate you mea the free phones, that was a program started by Reagan and expanded to cell phones under Bush II. Facts about Romneys supposed business savvy-in 1992 he drove Bain to the brink of bankruptcy and it took nearly $30 million in bailouts to save it. When he ran the Olympics it was only successful because he took approx $150 BILLION from the federal government. His lies about working with the state in Mass? He vetoed 800 bills put before him. The state house was able to repeal 750 of those vetoes. So much for working together. He also drove Mass to the bottom in job creation (48th of 50) and left the state with a record deficit. As president he will be a puppet of the big money interests that have bankrolled his campaign. The Koch brothers and Adelson will get everything they want while the rest of us lose.
Even Biden admits he's not proud to be Obama's VP. And, if you think things in Russia and Germany were bad, give BO another 4 years. You'll be told when you can go somewhere, where you can work (if you can work since there will be fewer jobs), when you can leave your house, and the list goes on. Everyone wants the government to do everything for them, and that comes with strings attached. As for me, I'm carrying a weapon with me no matter which one wins; but, especially if BO does.
Lunkystraydog: What bailout? The fed operates at it's own discretion and the only bank bailout was the one for 800 billion submitted by Bush and passed by congress on Oct. 3rd, 2008. One month before Obama was elected. How about you research things instead of complaining others don't?
When this is over I hope all you conservatives remember how Romneydirectional you have become and learn from it. Oh and the zombie apocalypse you all have waited so anxiously for is here. It's you. Brains... Rush, where is our brains, what do we do? Bottom line Mitt will do ZERO!!! NADA!!! To help you and your family's he is using all those things to get votes so he can make money, that is all he is running for... That and to put Mormons in power. Pull the lever for the guy you all hated 2 months ago and join the Romneydirectional express, next stop staunchly supportive of gay marriage unitarian who doesn't want white old guys telling him what to do with his vagina. SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ticked off! Get your facts from something or someplace else than FOX. Estimates were for 90,000 to as many as 110,000 . I know I was there I could only hear him as I was 5 blocks away and it was body to body in all directions.
Ticked,
Liberal Liars? Tell us all about the truth in Jeep moving to China will ya!check you sources. When the protest were at their height in Madison over Walker and his collective bargain mess. FOX reported 30,000 protesters at the Capital in Madison. Other sources reported 125,000 to 150,000. Conservative liars! Remember I was a Goldwater Liberal at one time.
Charlie,
I want them to do that, but with the brainwashing FOX Network Nation you never can tell what new lie will be believed by the unthinking, uneducated, right wing neo-Nazi like right!
Nobody has voiced an opinion as to my challenge yet! If Romney's home state is showing him trialing by 28% points what do the people of Mass. know already that we don't want to find out? Could it be that using the veto 800+ times shows that he lied about being bi-partisan? That all the other things he has told one group and then told differently to another shows he's a lying piece of crap!
I hope everyone is going to stay up late on Tuesday just to hear Romney's concession speech.
I just shake my head when I hear these comments about VP Biden. The man is unbelievably youthful for his age, especially with the daily stress that he must be under during this intense campaigning. I have always admired Joe Biden through the years, he has got a great record for serving our country, and now I admire him even more!
I cannot help but wonder how many of the GOP/TP that are making these cracks remember when Reagan was President during his second term. He was 78 years old when he left office and was suffering from Alzheimer's Disease. I remember embarrassing moments when he was on camera and his wife, Nancy, would have to mutter simple answers to him when the press would ask questions. Not the man's fault, of course, but the Reagan Administration was desperate to cover it up and used Reagan as a puppet his last few years.
The enormous deficit Reagan left behind was the largest debt America had ever incurred at that time. He said it was "the greatest disappointment of his Presidency."
It was ours, too, Mr. Reagan.
Biden is more than confused; he's incompetent and senile.
Romney easily wins Colorado.
Colorado Man,
Try having a right wing nut like Ryan as your representative and then have him stuck on his math. and facts of his "Plan to Ruin America!" and just walk out when he couldn't answer the many people questioning him. Confused? ?No? Ignorant of what he is proposing, Yes!
Thank goodness this thing's almost over…it has distracted the heck out of me.
I'm even more grateful that most Republicans - the informed, smart ones, not most of the ones who post here on First Read - know that the Electoral College math is in Mr. Obama's favor.
You can tell it by where Mr. Romney and his surrogates are campaigning this weekend…trying to find another path to 270 without Ohio since they know the numbers and have to find a back up plan.
Plus, you can tell by how extra-nasty the people here are who are supporting Mr. Romney. There's a desperation in their mean posts - name-calling, odd typed laughter, etc. - that relay what is really going on.
They know it. It makes me feel better. So, start it up, guys...
malarson,
Yes, the electoral count is too heavy of a lift for the R&R team.
Obama will be reelected.
Joe Biden has a little humor in his speech, he is feeling good.
And the RWNJ on this thread and others today are engaged in their last primal scream!
They really thought people would listen to them if they were more outrageous, angry, hateful, vile in their rantings??
Malarson,
Have a great weekend,
and don't forget to set your clock back!
malarson,
Please tell me that moderation in the Republican Party can and will be restored. I miss it.
Northstar,
Forgot about the clocks.....thanks.
Uncle Joe is right, Romney/Ryan want to get rid of Planned Parenthood, FEMA, Social Security, Medicare, Big Bird, Abortion rights, Gay rights, Bank regulations, Minimum Wage ... and 47% of us. Romney/Ryan are running on the 'Walmart Plan' - but prices aren't what they are trying to "Roll Back".
Good post Malarson. These guys Like Ticked off and Elliot are Romney's Rapid response team. Every time something comes that show Romney is loosing the get in her to try to down play it. ticked off is trying to crash this site with his 10 page post. Good thing it did't work, but nice try Ticked off in Ohio, Your really going to be ticked off on Tue.
"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.
(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)
Pretty sad when even NBC has started correcting Biden's lies.
P.S.
"He should talk to Big Bird!" he added,
Well, at least Biden knows his audience; too dumb to care about anything that matter, so throw them some meaningless, small-minded catch phrases to comprehend and repeat to themselves.
Is it a campaign for the U.S. presidency or an elementary school pep rally? just pathetic.
People DIED & Obama LIED..............
Just waht we need in a Commander-in-Chief.......
Always be wary of a leader that keeps telling you he's in-charge..................
Leaders lead...... community organizers...... move back to Chicago.............
Good post.
The Repugs are getting nervous as D-Day is coming....
Steve, do you want a draft dodging, tax evading coward to be CinC? Someone whose daddy sent him to France to avoid NAM ? If thats your idea of a leader, good luck.
If indeed Ohio gives their support to our President Obama to keep our great America moving forward and not being bought by the wealthy. Then let me be the first to Thank You for not being blinded by the Romney/Ryan's of the world. Ohio will go down in the history books as a great state that helped to bring us out of the great depression that Bush put us into and Romney/Ryan would have put us back into. As for the other swing states, don't let us go backwards now when things are going in a positive direction.
Again, Thank You Ohio.
Your neighbor from Pennsylvania-Obama/Biden 2012
G-Dog-787120 - So are we purposely overlooking the fact the Biden voted yes for the granddaddy of all de-regulation bills?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354
With Bail out number 3 in full swing, and the banks getting more Free money, Obama is thinkking his odds of winning might just pay off. After all Americans are to stupid to look up stuff on there own and buy the main stream media hook line and sinker !
Benghazi and Youtubegate, Obama at the UN stump talking about our Freedom of speech needs limits so we don't offend ??
Fast and Furious , Obama at the stump talking with Mexico's President, saying out 2nd amendment rights need to be taken...
Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money , Give me your Freedoms !
Help him finish taking what he started, Help him Finish America !
I dare any of you right-wing nutjobs to post demonstratable proof that President Obama has "taken away your freedoms" in any way. Compare that to the so-called Patriot Act that Dubya Shrub rammed down everyone's throats, and you have no leg to stand on.
When will people stop being stupid enough to realize that past performance is the indicator of future results?
If it weren't for the massive and highly-orchestrated obstructionist campaign to prevent the President from accomplishing anything, we would be so much farther along the road of recovery than we are. What recovery we've had has been in SPITE of the RepubliCONS, not because of them.
You treasonous slime need to finally own up to the fact that Mittens changes his positions faster than he changes his magical blessed underoos. He will say or do anything to get elected. Robme has only told people what he thinks they want to hear, not what he will really do. He will strip the middle class, and divide this nation much more deeply than the Tea Gaggers already have.
A vote for Robme is a vote to return the United States to the robber-baron age.
How can the Greed Only Party claim to love America, when they so clearly hate the average American?
Well said Evil.
Fascinates me that some of you are concerned about Romney serving in the military. You apply a different standard to Clinton, Biden and Obama.
Did you see all the entities Mitt created when he was both CEO, sole shareholder of Bain Capital and at the same time was not involved with Bain in any way?
There are about forty of them. BCIP, BCI, BCA, all Bain Capital something.
That's how he made his money. Creating these fake companies that were run by ghost CEOs and used inherited wealth to take over troubled companies, mortgage them up to their eyeballs, loot the assets and retirement funds, and lay everyone off. Then they sold the carcass and pocketed every bit of the cash.
That's Willard's idea of business. Doesn't sound like a fair and equitable businessman to me. He sounds more like the Vulture that he has been described as.
This phantom vote movement that Wrongme is counting on is not there. He'll lose by somewhere around 51 to 52% against 47 to 48%.
Wednesday is not going to be a fun day for the baggers.
lulu - there was no draft when Obama was of age. Biden's son served in the military. No double standard there. Wrongme applied FOUR times for a religious deferment so he could go to France and recruit new members for his cult. Then he lied about it. This is a matter of public record.
In 1994, Romney said, "It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft."
This is an outright, provable lie.
Biden's confused... he thinks America is voting for 'Entertainer of the Year', not Commander-In-Chief.
Like I said…this guy posted the comment above twice. Out of four comments total. Yikes.
It is funnier the second time though!
Funny? More like odd. Things are to the point that we are openly making fun of your "fearless leader". Big Bird is smarter than that Mittwit.
It is scary that Joe Biden is just a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He reminds me of that "funny" uncle at the Thanksgiving Day dinner table that every one hope does not get into awkward story telling that either embarrasses or annoys everyone in the family.
Ron & Jeff:
Guess a photo op with Republican Chris Christie wasn't quite enough time for Obama to learn how to be a real leader. SAD.
REVENGE? With that mentality, he reduces himself to a 5th grade cry baby. How about, "I will do whatever it takes to work with the Congress." Hmmm?
Romney/Ryan 2012
What's even scarier is that Romney is actually considered a viable candidate by the right, along with his partner in crime Ryan. Sorry if Joe is too middle class for you - maybe if he was more elite he would be OK.
"Independent Thought" - yeah, sure...independent. Your constant vitriolic attacks against Democrats for being Democrats show just how independent you are. Obama has tried, in spite of right wing lies, to work with Congress, but that's pretty hard to do when their stated purpose - ON VIDEO - is to make sure he is a one-term president. The Republican leadership should be on trial for treason, not for trumped-up crap that the right tries to pin on Obama, but for actual treasonous behavior that is public record.
But what does that matter when your ideology is so much more important than your country? Romney/Ryan may actually be the first ticket to lose their own states in a General. Romney is losing Michigan AND Massachusetts (by a wide margin...says quite a bit about his actual leadership), while Ryan is losing Wisconsin...perhaps in both the VP and House races.
I'm sure Romney's totally honest. I mean sure Bain Capital did some bad things in 2000, 2001 and 2002 but Romney retroactively resigned in 2002 back to 1999 so its not his fault. I've never quite understood how you could sign papers in 2000, 2001 and 2002 as CEO and sole owner then retroactively sell the company in 1999 but I'm sure it's all on the up and up.
Larry - look at all the entities created by Wrongme to hide his cannibalistic activities:
For example, on February 14, 2001, a number of Bain entities filed a Form 13G to indicate they had acquired more than five percent of the ownership of a company called Chippac,Inc. The “reporting persons” included Bain Capital Fund VI; Bain Capital Partners VI (“BCP”);Bain Capital Investors VI (“BCI”); BCIP Associates II (“BCIP”); BCIP Associates II-B (“BCI-B”); BCIP Associates II-C (“BCIP-C”); BCIP Trust Associates II (“BCIP-T”); BCIP TrustAssociates II-B (“BCIPT-B”); Bain Capital, Inc.( “BC”); PEP Investments Pty Ltd. (“PEP”); andMitt Romney.
They forgot one" BSBCV, Inc. - Bull Sheet Bain Capital Vultures, Inc.
Tagg is doing the exact same thing. Like father, like son. Same with Matt. A family of vultures. The scariest one is Tagg, who bought the company that controls voting machines in Ohio. That's their backstop plan.
Joe Biden has a bad case of oral dysentery.
What have you found that clears it up the best?
Greentimer, yes I did find something that will clear it up really, really well. Get that clown out of office along with his partner.
"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.
(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)
Just the latest attempt by a Democrat to create fear amongst voters of losing a government handout, even NBC isn't impressed with the rhetoric and interjected some reality for a change.
To be fair pjam09, defunding Planned Parenthood is effectively destroying it. Equivalence is a wonderful little tool which makes neocons look like the warmonger morons they are.
GreenTimer -
Sewing the lips together...but this has a bad side effect...since congenital brain farts are the major cause of oral dysentery, once the lips are sewn together the patient goes around honking through their nose...most annoying...
Yeah, all the righties here constantly attack NBC for being too liberal, when that does not actually appear to be the case at all. But they whine and whine, then proudly boast of Fox News, which has admitted they are in the bag for the right and are entertainment, not news.
And just so you are aware, Romney DID say he was going to kill Planned Parenthood, he didn't just say de-fund it. Perhaps he misspoke, as he is wont to do, but it IS what he said. Too bad, righties...you can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts. NBC should not have inserted that in there unless they were to clarify it and/or state this was not a news but an opinion piece. Not that any of the right wingers know the difference...
Oooohhh, sorry...damned facts!
Thanks for posting that. I knew Romney had said he would end Planned Parenthood. There's no mistaking his own words, no matter how the Fright Wing tries to parse or spin it.
Obama and Biden don't have to pretend to be something they're not to win. Romney was down by 10 points a few months ago with Ryan referring to Romney as stench and Romney's team to Ryan as Gilligan. Now it's close because Romney suddenly pretends to be a moderate. Romney pretended to be a far right candidate to win his party and now to be a moderate to win the election. If the right wing agenda was so great you'd think they could sell it.
That oral dysentary is further complicated by a galloping case of OPTO-RECTALIS !
Dee Ten and aworldofhurt,
Thank you for sharing how you've overcome this malady yourselves. Experience is always the best teacher.
Wonder why Mittens won't explain to the American people why he does not want them to have health care...
It is pretty difficult to explain why Obamacare, based almost exactly upon Mitt's Romneycare, is socialist, yet the plan Obamacare was based upon is lily white and good for the state.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, but not in Wrongme World.
Just ask Willard. He'll explain it to you.
"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." –Mitt Romney (January 2012)
"I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)
GreenTimer -
You're welcome to the information! I've certainly had a lot of experience through the years listening to bloviating politicians and acolytes.
After awhile the disease and the cure just become obvious... Kinda like Newton finally recognized gravity after behind hit on the head by an apple.
I can't believe this guy is VP. He has to be the biggest bonehead in the government. I would love it if someone would post all of his gaffs in a row. The Dems would even be embarrased if someone could just line them all up to hear. It's gotten to the point where when he bashes Romney he actually is helping Romney win the election. Because no one takes him seriously!
This statement coming from someone who voted for Sarah Palin. You folks are a sad lot.
Doc Ste: Are you talking about the same VP who kicked Ryan's ass all over the table in the VP debates? Hmmmmmm. You really have a fine, analytical mind, haven't you??!!?? hahahhaha geeeeeeeezzz........
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Wow did Biden make ryan look like a 3rd stringer.
TJ Biden looked like a cheshire cat grinning. He's a bafoon, it's not a big deal he running for VP not Pres.
We needed some humor during the campaign.
Doc. Little Bush couldn't even talk in English. He spoke better Spanish then English. Joe my not get the words just right all the time, but his heart is Golden. And we love Joe where I come from. I love a man that is not afraid to call Bull Sh t when he hears BS. We Dem's are not even a little embarrassed by Joe Biden. He unlike Mitten is a good decent man, that didn't steal his money from working people like Romney did.
Joe, aka the plagarist, is a decent guy? He is a joke along with O'Malley here in MD. Just think, they both think they should run for President in 2016. OMG! What a disaster that would be!
Potatoe...really, from a VP. I'll take Joe every time.
And "ticked in ohio". rest up. you'll need your energy just to stay sane.
The left are all about the BULLY Biden................
Joe couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag..................
For Biden to be such a loser, he seems to cause you much grief.
@Steve, then how did he literally crush ryan in the debate without breaking a sweat? Yes, he stopped ryan from finishing lies that were coming out of his mouth, but is that bullying, I think not.
I guess that if Biden is such a loser, that would make Ryan a puddle of goo. Biden destroyed that smirking little liar during the debate, but if he is so bad at arguing, what does that say about Ryan? You folks on the right are so busy spreading manure you don't even notice when that manure buries your own candidates.
I asked a friend of mine how he could vote for Romney. He said he's voting for Romney for the same reason he voted for Bush. A 20% tax cut means several thousand less in taxes. He just shrugged when I asked how Romney could possibly cut tax rates 20%, increase military spending and balance the budget, he said probably the same way Bush did.
If interrupting Ryan over 80 times is destroying someone, then, yes, Biden did that. But, at least Ryan's sentences and facts have substance to them, not childish comments and laughing like Little Joe did. And to think he is currently vp.
Biden just put up a stop sign everytime Ryan tried the prevaricating BS that Romney did in the 1st debate. Since the moderator was not willing to call BS, Biden did.
I thought it was great. I'll watch them again after the election because I want to remind myself why Willard and Lyin' Ryan were the most dangerous and misguided candidates ever on the top ticket.
Doc Ste -
Admirable goal but NBCnews won't allow a comment that large on the discussion list...the chronicle of Joe Biden gaffes would be a tome...
Romney in Pennsylvania makes liberals nervous, so they claim it is a "Hail Mary"...
Even the NY Times admitted that the Keystone State is tilting toward Romney late...
Minnesota is my surprise Romney state... a gay marriage vote is on the ballot. Since gay marriage is 0 for 32 when up for a vote, Romney will benefit from this issue, just as Bush did in 2004.
Bob in VA,
Mn will be in the blue column. Obama will win our electroal votes.
The Dems will take back our State senate, reelect our Democratic Senator, and defeat both amendments on the ballot.
Sure the right wing religious extremists will turn out to vote, but we have less than some other states, most are in Michele Bachmann's district.
The only close race will be Michele Bachmann vs Jim Graves and independents are going for Graves in greater numbers.
Bob,
You fought a good fight and I respect you for that but in all honesty the numbers simply aren't there anymore for Romney.
I know that you want and need Romney to hold on to Virginia, being your home state and all, but I'm afraid that both Virginia and Florida are going to fall. Virginia because of the the northern part of the state and Florida because Romney's lead has ALWAYS been an illusion propped up by outlier polling.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here...Lord knows we've all done enough of that lately.
Post #1.10 above isn't meant as my opportunity to gloat nor is it intended to inflame you but the numbers are real and the analysis is solid.
@Northstar - I hear Bachmann's campaign is going down in flames. Sounds like her new concoction in a can, Spray the Gay Away, was a tad too effective and cost her some votes.
Hello, Bob. Good to hear from you - telling us about what's really happenin' - from the very heart of spin country.
Like how liberals are quaking in their boots because Romney is going to speak in PA, and like how the NYT doesn't report factual news, but only "admits" items which make conservatives ecstatic, and like how presidential choices swing on the rights of gays.
Is it possible
that liberals are not gnashing their teeth about a Romney event,
that news reports in the NYT are meant to provide information for people who pay good money to get accurate information, and, finally,
that there are people in this world who see no correlation between gay marriage and the leadership of this country?
No, none of those things could possibly be true in the idealogical pure world of conspiratorial politics. Those things are possible only in the world of critically thinking American pragmatists.
you mean draft dodger Romney!!!
He was not a draft dodger,he spent the war years doing Missionary work in the impoverished country of France. France? You can't make this stuff up.
Ummm D.Mack, Romney spent his time in France being a cheerleader FOR the draft, as long as HE didn't have to go.
Romney should make every sane american nervous.
Hey RON4 I guess we must respect Obummer's military service--- now let's see, didn't he serve as a Corpse Man?
Let's hope he remembers what state he is in. From Biden yesterday it was " for the past four years there hasn't been a day go by when he has been able to trust the President" 2 days ago while in Ohio, he wanted to let the crowd know how good it was to be in Iowa,
The gift that just keeps giving.
Joe Biden is the best Vice President this Nation has ever had. Unlike that a talking lying buffoon Willard Romney.
Romney is runningfor President Ryan for VP, your sounding like poor ole Joe all confused.
Job1, go easy on the superlatives. VP's are hard to compare. But I can think of several that would top Biden including Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson.
Best VP? You're kidding. Green timer had excellent examples of much better VPs.
Now that says it all. No thought. No brains. And you want us to count on the fact that this guy may be the President by default? Not my house, not my neighborhood, not my town, not my state, and CERTAINLY not my country.
Talk to the Hand-----There is a word in the Northeasten Md, Northern DE, Southern NJ. Southeastern PA area known as I'vent....It means I Have Not...
There are words across the country like this...
In SC some people call shrimp scrimps, and school strool.....and screwed up strewed up.....
But you keep thinking this will win the election for the Liars, but it won't...
Thats why his mommy named him Joke Biteme !
Lyndon B Johnson???!!! You're out of your mind! And then he made to be a crap president too!
Job 1, please don't post when you are drunk or stoned.
Give poor, tired, old Bozobiden a break; maybe he can get wheeled into a nursing home, if he can remember what state he's living in.
FR:
No he did NOT say he was going to get rid of federal funding for Planned Parenthood. He said he was going to get rid of Planned Parenthood itself. Here is his exact quote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/mitt-romney-planned-parenthood_n_1343450.html
It's pathetic that the so-called "liberal media" like First Read has to step in to assist Mitt Romney in removing his foot from his mouth while implying that Biden wasn't telling the truth when he was 100% accurate in characterizing what Romney blithely and carelessly asserted.
We all know Romney was talking about federal funding of PP. get a grip.
lulu98
We all know Romney didn't know what the heck he was blathering about. He was just string words together that he thought would please his tea bag base. Get a clue.
@all above, defunding planned parenthood is effectively getting rid of it. Let's just realize that little equivalency.
Ah, the right wing - first they say Biden was wrong about what he said Romney stated (Biden was correct), then they try to pass it off as Romney MEANT something else. Yeah, Romney ALWAYS means something else; if you don't believe me, just listen to him and his handlers as they backpedal on yet another Romney clueless statement. And the right has the temerity to whine about Biden...amazing.
But I guess Romney was the best they could come up with. Sad, but it says a lot.
Clearly responding to what he say's instead of what he meant is unfair. But if we don't judge him by what he say's how can we possibly know what he actually meant? Maybe he thought planned parent hood was a federal agency.
@Houston, Guess the same for Obama thinking there are 57 states. PP gets partial funding from the government. It will not go away as some of you mistakenly think. You can get your checkbook out to support it.
The real scary part is Biden is one step from the Commander in Chief.
The scary part is Ryan wants his job. Ryan is still licking his wounds after Biden kicked his...
Biden looked like an idiot grinning and snikering, his cheshire cat grin was very becoming
Ryan looked like a little girl. Joe was not putting up with his memorized lines and lies. Let's face it. Ryan is not ready for primetime.
Biden past prime time. LOL
hesea I doubt your even an American. So you really don't have a say anyway.
The reason Bush wasn't assassinated was that Cheney would be president. The reason Clinton wasn't assassinated is Gore would have been President. Think about it......
I would think that had Mc Cain had been elected his life would NEVER had been in danger at all.
Biden's stupid grinning made him look hyped up on some drug. The only explanation for his continuing obnoxious behavior.
the reason for his behavior was Ryan. He was freekin' hilarious. I was laughing nervously too. ryan was sooo absurd, he was truly laughable.
True. Joe did not put up with Ayn Ryan's malarkey and gave him a schooling.
Funny (not really) how the right wingers all remark about Biden's smirking, but not a word about Ryan's smirks. Of course, they won't go near the matter that Ryan was lying during a good part of the debate and was thrown off by Biden constantly, as Biden messed up his rehearsed and memorized BS. If any of you were ever involved in debating, it would have been obvious to you that Ryan did not prepare for a debate...it was more like he prepared for a dramatic reading.
When you have a clown like Ryan for a VP candidate, you have little room to point fingers at Biden.
How can you trust anyone who makes this vow to the children to this country, then breaks it by creating a never ending ever growing debt crisis that has turned our country into the Greece of the America's?
In February 2009, Democratic President Barack Obama stated:
I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay. And that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.
"Remarks at the Fiscal Responsibility Summit." By Barack Obama. Government
Printing Office, February 23, 2009. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/presdocs/2009/DCPD200900102.htm
And how can you trust Romney, a man that lies to you on a daily basis.
What happened. The Rep's are what happened. This Debt we have was run up under Little Bush. Tax breaks that were not paid for. 2 Wars that were not paid for. John McCain" Rep's are spending money like Drunken Sailors" Every time the Rep's have power, We get a rescission That the Dem's have to fix. That's what happened.
Bush added $5.1 trillion to the national debt in 8 years.
Obama added over $6 trillion to the national debt in less that 4 years.
Obama hired Bush's economic adviser Bernanke and stayed the Bush economic course of bailouts, stimulus and tax cuts to the rich.
What don't you comprehend?
You seem to have forgotten that bush/cheney kept the cost of the wars and the tax cut off the book in an effort to make himself look not so bad. Obama did the honest thing and put those costs on the books for everyone to see. But you are blind...........
This deficit that everyone is so upset about belongs to you republicons. It is your baby.
CHART OF THE DAY: Reminder, The Deficit You're Freaking Out About Is Bush's Fault
What happened, switch 1.1 trillion from obama to bush, because the budget of 09 was still bush's, and then there's the stimulus, and then there's repairing Bush's damage to the economy. That's a fact check for you.
Wrong every end of the fiscal year there is an accounting of what the government spent. So every year the monies for the wars was accounted for. If you want to go down this road where and what page and line is Obama's military spending? Since he and the democrats have yet to have a budget by your logic the last 4 years have been off the books
Northern, there is a literal federal credit card. Bush put the wars on it, Obama took them off and put them directly on the budget. You can do look this up. CBO can confirm this.
northern MI
Wrong every end of the fiscal year there is an accounting of what the government spent. So every year the monies for the wars was accounted for. If you want to go down this road where and what page and line is Obama's military spending? Since he and the democrats have yet to have a budget by your logic the last 4 years have been off the books
You are wrong end of story.
The Bush years have put our Country so far in a hole with his passing the debt down the road it will take more than 10 years to even get a grip on it.
Unless the tax cuts are removed and the wars ended we will head into another great depression.
Ignore the facts all you want too, that doesn't make them any less true.
I can tell you right now Michigan will go for Obama you can take that to your local credit union.
We will not forget Romney's actions during the Crisis and what he wanted to do to our state.
Vote Obama/Biden 2012! Protect Women's and Worker's Rights.
Patrick, that is never going to happen. People like northern loved the false numbers. As long as it does not fall on a Republican then it must belong to the other party. We all knew that the spending for both of the wars was not on the books. The tax cut? When they were asked how they were going to pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy, they said that they did not need to pay for it, that they would pay for themselves. What they meant was that the rest of the population was going to pay for them. In order to get the last agreement on the reduction in the Medicare payroll tax, they eliminated three pay steps in the Federal income tax code. Do you know who took the brunt of that? It was those at the lowest rung, that is who. I was very upset with the President and others for going along with this, it was not fair. The other thing is that instead of lowering the Medicare tax what they should have done is raise the limit from just over $100,000.00 to around $150,000.00. That would have brought in more revenue for the Fund instead of what we have now which is less. Now they are talking about the draconian measures for cuts that are going to go into effect because they could not come to an agreement on the debt ceiling last year. Everyone agreed that would be what would happen, now they want to back away because it is about to become a reality. Look if you did not want this they you should have acted honorably and faithfully during the discussions. There is so much more that people could find out if they would just go to the GAO, CBO and IRS sites. It's not too late, research and inform yourselves!!!
But Patric93 Obummer has never had a budget and is too stupid to understand one anyway.
Ferndoc: How does a comment like that indicate the presence of ANY intelligence from the source? Are you guys EVER going to graduate from hate radio slogans or the pretense that you are smarter than everyone who holds an opinion different from yours? How many conversations have you had with the prez in order to come to such a conclusion? One finger points away and three point back at you.
Biden showed Ryan that Ryan was waaaayyyy out his league.
Biden certainly did prove that Biden is still in Little League.
I wouldn't tolerate the type of disrespect and childish, clueless mockery that Biden displayed out of City Hall member much less a politician on the national stage.
Biden showed Ryan that you don't have to be sane to be vp !
Um, did everyone forget biden simply kept ryan from completing his lies, and simply corrected him midsentence? I mean, he got somewhat angry towards the end because that's all Paul could offer, but really. You're telling me Joe Biden is mean for stopping someone from telling blatant lies?
Biden wiped the floor with Ryan, and the right wing then states that Biden is just plain awful. Gee, what does that say about Ryan?
The one state Biden always knows he is in, is his state of confusion. LOL
Agreed.
Hesea--you append an "LOL" to your own comment?
If you have to laugh at your own joke it ain't that funny.
Well actually RAB VW Hesea's joke was that funny 'cause it made you mad !
Let's see...Biden is confused and worthless, yet mopped the floor with Ryan during their debate. Guess that says a lot about Ryan...more than it does about Biden. Good argument, righties.
Remember Benghazi and the 4 murdered Americans, as well as the incompetence and cover up committed by the Obama administration when you go to vote. You'll never get the truth about what happened from Obama or NBC, CBS, or ABC.
It happened to close to the election for Obama to come clean on what happeded, we'll find out after the election.
Hey Steve what about the Thousands Little Bush killed when he lied us into Iraq. What about that. WMD's remember that Steve. If we would have had more people in Benghazi, we would have had more Americans dead. That is the fact.. You just keep raising hell about 4 dead and don't worry about the Thousands your guys killed. Enough Said Steve.
Hey chuck how about the support he had from the Dems prior to it? To help you digest, please read from another post on Friday. Oh and note, 7 of the quotes were prior to 2000.
Amen Steve.
Americans are going to give Obama and his cronies their pink slip. We won't forget how the President and his administration Lied to us about the Ambassadors murder.
If you ever listen to Joe Biden: after he finishes speaking you wish he hadn't opened his mouth because you feel dumber after hearing what he just said.
This administration lies like a rug and is incompetent. Vote them all out.
All based on Cheney's lies that Scooter is still paying for while sitting in jail. Darth Cheney saw to it that Valerie Plame was outed and exposed as an active intelligence agent.
Now stfu and climb back into your bubble.
Yeah, why aren't the oh so patriotic republicons upset that bush/cheney outed the CIA agent in charge of looking for WMD? Was it because there weren't any?
The right has one set of rules for the left and no rules at all for themselves.
By the way, righties, since Reagan murdered all those guys in the barracks in Lebanon, you gonna quit worshipping him? And Democrats saying that they are against Iraq having weapons of mass destruction (and then making sure they are gone without an invasion) is not the same as Bush making crap up and invading a country on a lie.
Hey left wing. You're confusing these guys with facts. Don't you see the futility in that? They just come out swinging with their eyes closed. Pathetic really. The Republican party had thinkers in it a few decades ago...
You go Joe, we think your great...
The way Joe cleaned Ryan's clock at the debate and changed his name from Lyin Ryan to Mr Malarkey, Priceless!
Can't wait for the election, already bought some etch-a-sketch's for some republican friends! They will laugh, and give them to their grand-kids!
O&JOE Forward not back!
"The way Joe cleaned Ryan's clock at the debate and changed his name from Lyin Ryan to Mr Malarkey, Priceless!"
What more proof do you need that Democrats are like cats mesmerized by a shiny object? The most insignificant drivel is the only things they can seem to wrap their minds around.
Then do explain to the rest of the world how it was paul ryan won that debate. Do go ahead, because only Fox news thought he did.
Well back to Comedy Central after this election we won't be hearing from Joe
Just got my Obama "A Plan for Jobs" nothing new in here same policies of the past failed 4 years and Obama wants to stay the course.
Yep, the President called upon the Marines to get Osoma - but when the Marines called on him - well history will write that one! Ignoring the truth will not get either of these idiots re-elected! [:-)]
Obama's "bump in the middle east" is Benghazi that didn't "happen at an optimal time"......so it was the video, then budget cuts, then poor intel, then he let Hiliary take the fall, this is our Commander in Chief
Would you people just wait for the investigation to pan out? Yeesh you're trolls who are deciding this the same way everyone is polarizing on the trayvon martin/george zimmerman case.
Yeah, and that criminal Reagan that murdered all those guys in the barracks in Lebanon. Unforgivable.
Hey Patrick93, you mean we should wait and do nothing just like the coward in the White House did?
If you had the clearances, you could read the CIA Report. Trust me, it is very interesting.
You might gain some ground if you knew how to spell! It's O-S-A-M-A . Oh and by the way, Obama WILL be re-elected ;-D
It is hard to believe that Americans voted in Obama and Biden.... Obama should
have stuck with his community organizing or moved to France, and Biden should
have selected another career... What is worse is there seems to be enough
people to barely put these two back in power for another 4 years. By 2016 the
nation will be ruined, but Democrats will probably continue to blame Bush....
This has been the most negative, disgusting campaign I have seen and I have
seen a lot of them. Obama decided to go negative; if he could use his $1
billion on negative ads, which he has, he hoped to convince Americans that Romney
is a "bad person." But the election is a tossup despite flooding the
airways with negative, mostly false, ads.
Go get them Joe!! Hey Colorado! Did my fellow citizens in Colorado hear about the GOP/RNC "Conspiracy?" Yes America! The GOP/RNC Tea Beggers committed treason on Janruary 20, 2009. The GOP/RNC "Fourteen Felons" conspired together to destroy the US Economy, and to destroy the President at all costs. They made a "Blood Oath" too say NO to their country, no too the American People, and a big yes to destroying US Economic growth. Reports state that the GOP/RNC Tea Beggers that night were drunk, and had a 'ladies of the night' under each arm. Reports state that "Nutty Newt" spewed that the seeds of 2012 were planted tonight. It goes even deeper America! The GOP "Fourteen Felons" conspired to show total contempt for the President, and act like it is just not personal. Another lie America by the GOP/RNC! This is an event that every American had better read before they vote. This "Midnight Meeting" proves that the GOP/Tea Beggers intentionally plotted to destroy the US Economy on a Global Scale.
yes they did, and they should all be held accountable for it!! Such as to vote them all out when their term ends, especially Mitch McConnell
Hey, Liberal morons, It's okay to hire the mentally handicapped, but not a good idea to have one as Vice President.
Boozer, is that why Romney picked Lyin' Ryan -to make himself look good with an idiot for a V/P?
It's curious how somebody who'd put up a photo of a great American, John Wayne, and yet support a president who stands for everything The Duke hated.
Obama lies - You expect rational behavior from a liberal?
He is a simpleton who likes Hollywood actors and "free" government handouts... issues and important matters are not part of his thought process.
The all time runaway winner of the national lie-a-thon is that Mittwit Romney!
He lies every day at least once. during one stretch he lied 533 times in 30 weeks! That is over 2 a day!
All hail the King of Liars!
Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
pjam09 ..
a simpleton who likes actors ..
have you forgotten ronald reagan was an actor ..
Does it bother anyone else that the Romney clan, Mitt and his five sons, that none loved their country enough to serve in any of the active military branches, or National Guard or Peace Core? None of them!
It bothers me a bit.
So Obama's family were socialists, his father and mentor communists, his buddy, Bill Ayers, tried to blow up the Pentagon and you're concerned a bit about Romney?
Really?
"Does it bother anyone else that the Romney clan, Mitt and his five sons, that none loved their country enough to serve in any of the active military branches, or National Guard or Peace Core?"
No.
Does it bother you that Obama never served?
Does it bother you that his children will never serve?
Does it bother you that Obama welcomes foreign criminals into the country while so many Americans have sent their own family members overseas to PROTECT America?
Does it bother you that he attended the services of pastor who thrived on preaching hatred?
Does it bother you that he married a woman who was never proud of her country until she could sit in the White House?
Does it bother you that he lied to the American public (and continues to lie) in order to keep his own personal legacy clear of having a terrorist attack occur during his presidency?
If it doesn't you don't belong in America.
What branch of the military did Obama serve in? That bothers me a whole lot. I am glad he(OBama) will be gone in January.
There's only so many lies you can tell about the murder of 4 of our own in Libya. Goodbye Mr. President: don't let the door hit you in the butt.
Does it bother you that Obama never served in the American Military either?
Never has one family spent so much to educate such a lack luster bunch in magic underwear.
It bothers me that people seem to equate getting a job in one of the armed services to public service or even heroism. No one is a hero for doing their job. Firefighters would be the closest thing as almost every time they do their job it is dangerous and for someone else's benefit. Nearly all of the time in a day to day military job one is not at any risk. It is one of the biggest sacrosanct lies of our time. And looking down on someone for not having been in the military is idiotic. Most people will not be in the military. Are most people therefore terrible people? Of course not; it's a remarkably stupid argument.
In fact, the very use of the term patriotism and/or "support for the military" is so backwards it is absurd. Patriots support the USA by keeping the military out of unnecessary conflicts, not saying hi on aircraft carriers bound for far off places where we do not belong. Supporting the military means only a couple of things, keep out of conflicts unless absolutely necessary, provide the requisite equipment to win, take care of the medical needs of the wounded afterward.
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If you want no change in how this nation is governed, then keep voting for democrats and republicans. (extreme sarcasm > ) Because it is always a solid idea to voice the same complaints in forums election after election but do nothing personally to change the status quo. A vote for red Simms or blue Simms is a wasted vote.
I guess this is the type of bull$h!t story we will be seeing from the Owebama Broadcasting Company until Wednesday.
When Vice President Biden speaks the formula is simple. Pick a group of diehard supporters because when he finishes saying the ridiculous things he does you want the group to cheer and not chuckle.
That is always the Democrat formula.
exhibit A:
""He should talk to Big Bird!" he added"
Biden could stand there and make fart noises and belching sounds and Democrats would be enthralled by it.
We might be entertained for all of 20 seconds, but no, Biden has made some intelligent points and Ryan lost, big time.
Wonder if this moron got the state he was in right this time.
And this is the guy who called Obama "clean" and "articulate".
A national embarrassment that's winding down to an end this Tuesday. Thank God.
The choice of Biden showed me what kind of judgment Obama and his party has.Its like they wanted the dumbest white guy in america.
Sad is how none of the big media channels are reporting the truth about anything.
Its time for change,adult smart kind of change. Its scary to think people can be awake and look around them and support this president.
It's almost as funny as Rmoney introducing Ryan as the next President of the United States.
OBAMA/BIDEN 1040
Do you know what you have when you see a pair of "magic underwear" on the floor? Mitt Romney with the @!$%# kicked out him!
TEE HEE.....ROMNEY IS A LIAR beyond liars.