Biden zings Romney in Colo.

Vice President Joe Biden speaks at a campaign rally in Arvada, Colorado criticizing Romney's policies towards China as 'malarkey'.

 

 

ARVADA, Colo. -- Ka-zing.

Three days before the election, Vice President Joe Biden pegged his newest critique of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to the semi-annual inconvenience of adjusting clocks for Daylight Savings Time, which occurs tonight.

"It’s Mitt Romney’s favorite time of the year -- because he gets to turn the clock back!" Biden told a crowd of hundreds at a suburban Denver high school.

In his remarks, the vice president accused Romney of embracing social policies out of an earlier era, pointedly noting the GOP nominee's voiced enthusiasm for "getting rid of" Planned Parenthood. 

"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said. "And by the way, he doesn't even know he doesn't control Planned Parenthood."

"He should talk to Big Bird!" he added, referencing the scuffle over public broadcasting funding that broke out during one of the presidential debates.

(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)

Biden has two events scheduled in swing state Colorado Saturday. He will campaign Sunday in Ohio.

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Comment author avatarfieflyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Biden's confused... he thinks America is voting for 'Entertainer of the Year', not Commander-In-Chief.

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#1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

The point you are trying to make is that Obama is Satan. Do you honestly think that anyone will take you seriously?

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#1.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:22 PM EDT
Comment author avatarelliot-3020456Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Biden told a crowd of hundreds"

Hundreds? That's pathetic, nobody even shows up for this clown.

0bama only gets 2,800 to show up in Cleveland while Romney draws 30,000 in his Franklin County rally.

Ohio is going to Romney for sure.

  • 56 votes
#1.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

Ticked off,

You have been posting this very lengthy cut and paste on all the threads today.

go seed this post on Newvine and not here.

but you will have to give your link to the source of this list.

Plagiarism is not allowed.

  • 62 votes
#1.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

You have been posting this very lengthy cut and paste on all the threads today.

Keep him away from the movie theaters. Romney is losing, and Ticket isn't happy.

  • 68 votes
#1.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

Ticked off in Ohio: What a bunch of BS! Hell, you don't even make sense to Ohio voters! They're rejecting your BS like everyone else. Why not grow up, stop posting half truths, innuendos, and outright lies. No one gives a damn about the BS you thrive on.

  • 69 votes
#1.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

Way to tell it Uncle Joe. Willard Romney is nothing more than a talking lying buffoon. And that is a FACT.

  • 97 votes
#1.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

elliot: What kind of an analytical mind have you? The fact that the President is leading in most of the "close call" states, and losing in the most poorly educated and economically poorest red states ought to tell you something. Oh, I understand. You're from one of the red states.

  • 75 votes
#1.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

Updated for Noon EST on Saturday, November 3, 2012:

*** Spoiler alert: The overnight numbers from both RCP and FiveThirtyEight broke quickly, repeatedly, and decidedly in President Obama's favor.

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Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With only 60 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report that Obama holds increasing leads in eight of their 11 toss-up states while Romney clings to smaller and more static leads in the remaining three.

In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of Noon EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:

In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 5.4%, up from 5.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 94.2% chance of victory here, up by 0.9% overnight and by an astounding 8.5% since Tuesday.

In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.6%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.6% chance of victory here, up by 0.5% overnight and by a respectable 2.5% since Tuesday.

In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 3.5%, up from 3.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up 0.2% overnight and by 0.5% since Tuesday.

In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.9%, up from 2.6% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 83.8% chance of victory here, up by 3.1% overnight and by an astonishing 10.5% since Tuesday.

In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.7% chance of victory here, up by 1.5% overnight and by an astounding 9.0% since Tuesday.

In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.7% chance of victory here, down interestingly by 0.9% overnight but up overall by a substantial 6.8% since Tuesday.

In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.8%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.4% chance of victory here, up by 1.7% overnight and by an astonishing 10.1% since Tuesday.

In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% on Friday.FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 67.9% chance of victory here, up by 2.2% overnight and by an astronomical 12.5% since Tuesday.

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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 0.3%, down from 0.5% on Friday. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here (and not Romney's) to 67.0%, up 2.2% overnight. Nate Silver must be seeing something...

In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 1.4%, up from 1.2% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 54.8% chance of victory here, but this margin is actually down a stunning 9.9% from Tuesday.

It should be noted that RCP's average in Florida does appear to have been hyper-inflated by two recent outlier findings in favor of Romney, the first a 6.0% margin today from the unapologetically right-leaning Mason-Dixon Group with localized results for only the two cities of Tampa Bay (site of the 2012 RNC) and Miami (Marco Rubio stronghold), the second a 3.0% margin from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital, and an appreciably older finding by The Sunshine State News, an ultra-conservative website/blog which had Romney leading by 5.0% on October 24. Minus the influencesof these extreme outliers, Romney's true lead is likely well under 1.0% and quite possibly closer to that of dead heat. Ah, Florida....

In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 79.6% chance of victory here, down 0.3% overnight.

So...

In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Michigan at 3.5%, Ohio at 2.9%, and Nevada at 2.7%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.

However, should Obama fail to hold the strategic prize of Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:

Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but holds the remaining three states where he presently leads, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.

Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking only one state from among New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.

Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:

Path #3: Obama comes from behind at the wire to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, and Michigan at 3.5%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.

For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in both Colorado where Obama's lead rose Friday to 1.0% and in either Ohio (where Obama's lead today is 2.9%, up from Friday's 2.6%) or in Pennsylvania (where Romney's campaign suggested earlier this week that Obama's significant lead of 4.6% may be vulnerable). By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275 or 277, respectively.

Romney's newfound "Pennsylvania Strategy," however, may be a highly-marketed feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida.

In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 1.8%, Iowa at 2.0%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.

FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 83.7% (up markedly from Friday morning's 80.9%) and Romney 16.3% (down markedly from Friday's 19.1%).

FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 305 (up 6 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 233 (down 6 from Wednesday's 239).

Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.6% (up from Thursday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from Thursday's 48.6%).

With only 60 hours of campaigning left, and with Friday's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.

Mow the yard and stock up on popcorn today, people....Tuesday night is gonna be a whirlwind!

  • 40 votes
#1.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

Wow, old Dicked off in Ohio is missing the meds.

  • 49 votes
#1.11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

Willard drew 15,000, not 30,000. He even lies about that. Pathetic.

  • 57 votes
#1.12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

elliot,

He was not in Franklin County. I live in Franklin County … Columbus is in Franklin County.

He was in Cincinnati which I believe to be in Hamilton County.

  • 40 votes
#1.13 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:44 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTicked off in OhioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

As I expected would happen...

All you libtards pile on me, but not 1 single worthless POS one of you has even tried to refute any of Obamas flip flops listed.

Oh wait I know...Obama "evolves" right?

  • 31 votes
#1.14 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

My God Ticked off and Elliot are going to have heart attacks with all this new Information saying President Obama is going to win. Ticked what happened to Ohio is Rep. period??????? I am thinking you don't know your own state like you think you do!!! And Elliot your just stupid. Obama is going to WIN deal with it boys. Romney can try again in 4. What will that make, like 20 of running for President. That's more the Regan ran.

  • 49 votes
#1.15 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTicked off in OhioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney IS going to win and it's not going to be that close!

Headline Wednesday November 7th, 2012

ROMNEY WINS! "RECORD REPUBLICAN VOTER TURNOUT"

  • 23 votes
#1.16 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

Here's what the non partisan Congressional Research Service has to say about cutting taxes to increase income. (Summary below)

Throughout the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it is 35%. Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the 1970s; today it is 15%. The real GDP growth rate averaged 4.2% and real per capita GDP increased annually by 2.4% in the 1950s. In the 2000s, the average real GDP growth rate was 1.7% and real per capita GDP increased annually by less than 1%.

There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.

The share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009 recession. The evidence does not suggest necessarily a relationship between tax policy with regard to the top tax rates and the size of the economic pie, but there may be a relationship to how the economic pie is sliced.

Since Romney's whole platform is refuted by these findings, Senator Mitch McConnell (R) blocked the release of the Report. It surfaced again in the Nov 1 2012 New York Times.

  • 56 votes
#1.17 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

As I expected would happen...

We just want to be awed with more of your retroactive predictions of presidential outcomes since 1980. Here are mine -

1980/84 - Reagan

1988 - Bush

1992/96 - Clinton

2000/04 - Bush W

2008 - Obama

How did I do compared to 'the model'?

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

I actually live in one of the bluest states. And you were right. Romney was in Butler county, three times smaller than Franklin County where 0bama had his rally yet Romney drew more than ten times the crowd.

And no I wont be too bummed if 0bama wins, our country can handle it.

  • 8 votes
#1.19 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

Senator Mitch McConnell (R) blocked the release of the Report. It surfaced again in the Nov 1 2012 New York Times.

This just further supports what we already know - the GOPTP treat facts and figures like a dog treats a bone - they bury them. If it's a lie - produce an ad and spend millions to double down on it.

  • 47 votes
#1.20 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:08 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTicked off in OhioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

RedDev,

Well if you understood the theory behind the model you'd realize just how closed, and small your tiny mind is.

But since you don't and I don't want to explain it to you...mainly because I don't think you'd comprehend it anyway....I'll just leave it at that.

  • 11 votes
#1.21 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

The point you are trying to make is that Obama is Satan. Do you honestly think that anyone will take you seriously?

The difference between Romney and Obama is that one flip-flops while campaigning. The other flip-flops while serving as President.

  • 13 votes
#1.22 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

LOL Trolled off in Ohio is doubly pissed because Ohio will be why Romney loses.

That's gotta smart for you. BAD. :D

  • 44 votes
#1.23 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

Hardware stores are reporting a major run on stocks of rope.

Cemeteries are also reporting a major increase of pre-paid plots.

Seems the Republicans are starting to take the polls more seriously and are getting ready for Tuesday night.

  • 28 votes
#1.24 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

Republicans are starting to take the polls more seriously and are getting ready for Tuesday night

THATS RIGHT...RECORD TURNOUT!

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

elliot,

I didn't see much coverage for the fact that Obama had 35,000 in Madison and they had to turn away 10,000 two weeks ago. While Romney got 6,000 in Milwaukee! You were probably watching FOX and there was little coverage, of course, being so "Fair and Balanced!" LOL!

  • 46 votes
#1.26 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

So could or world one of the Romney / Lying Ryan supporters out there please tell me why Romney is trailing by his largest margin of 28% in his home state of Mass.? Doesn't that tell you and me something about the job he did over the job he wants us to think he will do? I know that the workers in Freeport, Illinois who work for Sadente (sp), a Bain China transport company, have been protesting they are losing their jobs because of Mitt the Twitt!

  • 44 votes
#1.27 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

OBAMA CANT DRAW A CIRCLE THIS GO-ROUND

After holding mostly small and mid-size rallies for much of the campaign, Obama's team is planning a series of larger events this weekend aimed at drawing big crowds in battleground states. Still, the campaign isn't expecting to draw the massive audiences Obama had in the closing days of the 2008 race, when his rallies drew more than 50,000.

"You want to know that your president means what he says and says what he means," Obama told a 4,000-person crowd in northeast Ohio. "And after four years as president, you know me."

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_21920597?source=commented-

  • 9 votes
#1.28 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

I guess you can't expect much from a group that reveres people like Billy Clinton. How many of you you libs would leave your daughter alone in the oval office with that POS!

But that's OK go vote for your "messiah" and he'll lower the oceans along with unemployment and the deficit.

  • 12 votes
#1.29 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

Ticked,

You're just a little out of it. Obama drew 90,000 in Madison in the 2008 race. Look again "Ticked" as he's going to be in Madison again Monday. Of course the 45,000 that just saw him two weeks ago don't count do they! Keep in mind the only numbers that count are on Tuesday!

  • 29 votes
#1.30 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

I'd trust him with my daughter more than Murdock in Indiana! Of course, that is because I raised my daughter right! I raised her as a republican like I used to be and on her own she said that what I read and hear from the GOP makes it the God Awful Party dad. We both changed about the same time so no more votes for Nixon, Goldwater or Reagan. Those former conservative republicans who would now be classified a LIBERALS by the nuts running the party now!

  • 46 votes
#1.31 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

Go right ahead clwyd-2621393 but I love and respect my daughter too much to trust that perv.

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

Tjefferson, the "unbiased" media said about Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin too. So tell me how did that work out for ya?

  • 5 votes
#1.33 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTicked off in OhioExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

HEY clwyd,

Obama drew 90,000 in Madison in the 2008 race.

YOU MEAN THE 17,000 THAT OBAMA SPOKE TO IN MADISON IN 2008?

The president is headed to Madison as part of a series of rallies in swing states leading up to the election. But where he drew a crowd of 17,000 at the University of Wisconsin in 2008 during the presidential race, crowds are expected to be significantly smaller this time around

F'N LIBTARD LIARS!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.34 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

"REVENGE" is Obama's vocabulary word of choice. Wasn't that a middle school bully word? Wow, now that is a true leader of the free world.

REVENGE Obama? An all time new low. Remember all those sweet words you said back in 2008? Now I know why Oprah is NO WHERE to be found.

REVENGE? You have the job of leading the greatest "democratic" society in the free world. DISGUSTING!!!!

Romney/Ryan for a STRONG America

  • 15 votes
#1.35 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

revenge moron for the obstructionist in congress!!!!

  • 26 votes
#1.36 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.

(In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)


Pretty sad when even NBC has started correcting Biden's lies.


P.S.

"He should talk to Big Bird!" he added,

Well, at least Biden knows his audience; too dumb to care about anything that matter, so throw them some meaningless, small-minded catch phrases to comprehend and repeat to themselves.

Is it a campaign for the U.S. presidency or an elementary school pep rally? just pathetic.

  • 11 votes
#1.37 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

can't wait 'til Wednesday morning when "ticked...in ohio" has to be strapped down. Good luck on your new meds pal.

  • 27 votes
#1.38 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

My vote is without a doubt Revenge against the Republican Congress. The DO NOTHING Congress.

I voted for a Democrat for the first time in 2 elections against David Reichert in Washington. I expect him to win still but he won't get my vote ever again. He went from being a Semi-Moderate Republican to a Tea Bagger and lost it for me.

  • 30 votes
#1.39 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

@Ticked off in Ohio have you taken the same amount of time and determination to dissect Governor Romney or are you going to implicitly trust him because he asked you to?

  • 25 votes
#1.40 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

He did take quite a swerve, there, didn't he? I voted against Reichert too, and I knew him personally from when his office used to be out on Mercer Island.

I don't know about revenge, but I do feel that Congress has not been serving the citizens of the USA very well at all . . .

  • 24 votes
#1.41 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

.

  • 1 vote
#1.42 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

@pjam09, Actually MSNBC was in fact wrong when they "corrected" Biden. Romney's promise to defund Planned Parenthood is aimed directly at shutting it down. A Romney government would not want to be accused of funding an institution that will perform medical procedures that the same government wants to criminalize. So Biden is correct, it just takes a little more intelligence then either the reporter or you appear to have to be able to make the connection.

  • 26 votes
#1.43 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

"With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said. "And by the way, he doesn't even know he doesn't control Planned Parenthood."

There are a lot of things that Romney is unaware of. Like the fact that he might be going to jail.

Legal Analysis Outlines Potential Crime In Mitt Romney’s Financial Disclosures | MoveOn.Org

  • 17 votes
#1.44 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

Hey Roz

Ticked off in Ohio have you taken the same amount of time and determination to dissect Governor Romney

Yes I have, I've been watching and vetting Romney since 2008...Thats why I voted for him. He's a good man with the business experience this country needs to get our house in order.

  • 9 votes
#1.45 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

ticked off in Ohio, thanks for the update on what Pres. Obama has been doing the last 4 years. I see you had nothing on what the Republican have done. I hate lazy people who don't do anything and expect a pay check. Tell your Republican lazy A$$es to give back there unearned WAGES.

  • 17 votes
#1.46 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:55 PM EDT

Hey sid

thanks for the update on what Pres. Obama has been doing

Not a problem, since he hasn't done much...took almost no time!

  • 3 votes
#1.47 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

Ryan is still on the ballot in Wisc. for congressman. Says a lot about what he thinks of willards chances.

  • 17 votes
#1.48 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:12 PM EDT
Radcliffe4Deleted

There's many, many reasons not to vote for Obama, Biden is just one of them! Who wants a VP whose best characteristic is comedic misspeak? Really...! This guy is a 'heartbeat away'.... how can any American be comfortable with that?

Yesterday he said he was told to go on vacation after the election! Good advice... take a long vacation sleeply Joe!

  • 19 votes
#1.50 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:51 PM EDT

If Romney/Ryan get elected then it's good by to social security, vouchers for medicare, FEMA, Pell grants, etc,etc,etc. It's big bucks for the wealthy, more war except for his kids, and lots of good times for the wealthy because they stuck it to us. The country is going in the right direction, please don't stop it now and go backwards by voting for romney and ryan.

Obama/Biden 2012 and all democrats to move forward

  • 22 votes
#1.51 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

Remember change your clocks tonight and your president on Tuesday.

  • 14 votes
#1.52 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

Michael 1.51, you are speaking through your a$$! Just like sleepy Joe!

  • 13 votes
#1.53 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

Romney's currently ahead overall in the polls :)

  • 16 votes
#1.54 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

Ron & Jeff:

Guess a photo op with Republican Chris Christie wasn't quite enough time for Obama to learn how to be a real leader. SAD.

REVENGE? With that mentality, he reduces himself to a 5th grade cry baby. How about, "I will do whatever it takes to work with the Congress." Hmmm?

Romney/Ryan 2012

  • 20 votes
#1.55 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

Its over folks copy paste all you want....nothing is going change the direction of this ship that has set sail!

You have another chance in 4 years when Hillary Runs!!

My advice is back off the religious crap and start helping the people of the country.

Vote Obama Biden 2012!! End the Blockade of our Nations Recovery by the republican party.

  • 26 votes
#1.56 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

Sorry JD, a vote for obama means increased gridlock as the Republicans will gain in House and probably get majority in Senate as well this election....!

Obviously a vote for Romney/Ryan means no gridlock and quicker recovery of the mess obama has put us in!

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012.... to really move forward!

  • 19 votes
#1.57 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

Biden -

Whoever said it first was right.. "A smile pushing a suit".

He doesn't even know how old he is.. Very sad to watch him in his fading years, desperately trying to tie thoughts and phrases together.

At least he has great healthcare.

  • 8 votes
#1.58 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:41 PM EDT

Where is Friday's Biden quote? "Not one day in the last 4 years have I been proud to be Obama's vice president. NOT one day."

  • 9 votes
#1.59 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:45 PM EDT

Since the Left has this whole thing figured out, Romney is wasting his time. I predict that you liberal thinkers wont be happy come wednesday morning. I realize that liberals are much smarter than conservatives , but everyone makes an error at least once in their lifetime.

  • 3 votes
#1.60 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRedhead RantingExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Is anyone else really tired of the childishness and pettiness of the Obama/Biden campaign? Talk about pissing on the office of the president. I thought Clinton disrespected the office, these guys are embarrassing.

  • 14 votes
#1.61 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

Sad is watching Romney pretending he'll be the one making decisions if he wins.

The most quoted speech at CPAC this year was Mitt Romney's, but my vote for the most significant goes to Grover Norquist's. In his charmingly blunt way, Norquist articulated out loud a case for Mitt Romney that you hear only whispered by other major conservative leaders.

They have reconciled themselves to a Romney candidacy because they see Romney as essentially a weak and passive president who will concede leadership to congressional conservatives:

All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

The requirement for president?

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.

  • 6 votes
#1.62 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

All Barry-0's Campaign stops are just mini-concerts now....the shrinking crowds are coming out to see Bruce or bon jovi or Katy Perry or some other fawning for 0bama celeb,....Revenge is the 0bama battle cry now...

And the Press, giving Biden a pass all the time " Oh, that's just Joe, being Joe"....Pathetic...He's one heartbeat away.....Do you know why P.0bama picked Biden for VP.....to prove he didn't need one....whoever heard of a Vice-King ????

You gotta see some of the articles on MSN now that you can't comment on....

"Women voters less enthusiastic on Obama this time"

http://t.news.msn.com/politics/women-voters-less-enthusiastic-on-obama-this-time

"Poll: Older voters prefer Romney on healthcare, Medicare"

http://t.news.msn.com/politics/poll-older-voters-prefer-romney-on-healthcare-medicare

No wonder NBCNews divorced them...INFIDELITY TO DEAR LEADER

  • 6 votes
#1.63 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

I think that NBC cut the part where Biden thought he was in Ohio and not Colorado. The man is a joke -- he is senile. How can news media cut out the obvious. He thought we were fighting in Iran (Harry Reid - also senile agreed with him). What is this country coming to?

  • 8 votes
#1.64 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:25 PM EDT

Ticked off in Ohio's real name is R. Sole.

  • 4 votes
#1.65 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

Ticked off, You Troll!

The Monday night before the election in 2008. Barack Obama's last campaign stop was at the Prince William County Fairgrounds, Virginia. I was there. Prince William County police estimated a crowd of 100,000 ... at the same time ... Down the road, in Fairfax, the next county over, in Springfield, Virginia. John McCann's rally at Interstate Van Lines drew a crowd of 6500.

Obama 2012 / Ozzy Osbourne 666 / Romney 1040

  • 9 votes
#1.66 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

With Bail out number 3 in full swing, and the banks getting more Free money, Obama is thinkking his odds of winning might just pay off. After all Americans are to stupid to look up stuff on there own and buy the main stream media hook line and sinker !

Benghazi and Youtubegate, Obama at the UN stump talking about our Freedom of speech needs limits so we don't offend ??

Fast and Furious , Obama at the stump talking with Mexico's President, saying out 2nd amendment rights need to be taken...

Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money , Give me your Freedoms !

Help him finish taking what he started, Help him Finish America !

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:11 AM EDT

One way to save a few pennies on the federal budget would be to simply have one paid representative speak and vote Republican in each the House and the Senate. That person would be allowed a vote for each district or state election the Republican won.

Norquist would be a good choice since he has never run for anything and could clearly enunciate the Republican mantra without having to be bogged down representing the people.

  • 1 vote
#1.68 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:15 AM EDT

.....to prove he didn't need one

Mike - simply one of the best lines I've read here in a long time. Awesome.

Thanks!

    #1.69 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

    It was pretty much set from the beginning. Romney's bucket had too many holes to contain all that thin bullsh^t. Ryan? Whaaaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha..................................................................... Pitiful!

    • 6 votes
    #1.70 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

    You right wingers will believe anything that comes out of Rush or Fox. Please tell me what freedoms Obama has taken from you? Regulations on small businesses have been reduced, spending has decreased, job creation has increased, if by youtube gate you mea the free phones, that was a program started by Reagan and expanded to cell phones under Bush II. Facts about Romneys supposed business savvy-in 1992 he drove Bain to the brink of bankruptcy and it took nearly $30 million in bailouts to save it. When he ran the Olympics it was only successful because he took approx $150 BILLION from the federal government. His lies about working with the state in Mass? He vetoed 800 bills put before him. The state house was able to repeal 750 of those vetoes. So much for working together. He also drove Mass to the bottom in job creation (48th of 50) and left the state with a record deficit. As president he will be a puppet of the big money interests that have bankrolled his campaign. The Koch brothers and Adelson will get everything they want while the rest of us lose.

    • 3 votes
    #1.71 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:04 AM EDT

    Even Biden admits he's not proud to be Obama's VP. And, if you think things in Russia and Germany were bad, give BO another 4 years. You'll be told when you can go somewhere, where you can work (if you can work since there will be fewer jobs), when you can leave your house, and the list goes on. Everyone wants the government to do everything for them, and that comes with strings attached. As for me, I'm carrying a weapon with me no matter which one wins; but, especially if BO does.

    • 2 votes
    #1.72 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:14 AM EDT

    Lunkystraydog: What bailout? The fed operates at it's own discretion and the only bank bailout was the one for 800 billion submitted by Bush and passed by congress on Oct. 3rd, 2008. One month before Obama was elected. How about you research things instead of complaining others don't?

    • 5 votes
    #1.73 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:15 AM EDT

    When this is over I hope all you conservatives remember how Romneydirectional you have become and learn from it. Oh and the zombie apocalypse you all have waited so anxiously for is here. It's you. Brains... Rush, where is our brains, what do we do? Bottom line Mitt will do ZERO!!! NADA!!! To help you and your family's he is using all those things to get votes so he can make money, that is all he is running for... That and to put Mormons in power. Pull the lever for the guy you all hated 2 months ago and join the Romneydirectional express, next stop staunchly supportive of gay marriage unitarian who doesn't want white old guys telling him what to do with his vagina. SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 6 votes
    #1.74 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 2:51 AM EST

    Ticked off! Get your facts from something or someplace else than FOX. Estimates were for 90,000 to as many as 110,000 . I know I was there I could only hear him as I was 5 blocks away and it was body to body in all directions.

    • 3 votes
    #1.75 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 8:00 AM EST

    Ticked,

    Liberal Liars? Tell us all about the truth in Jeep moving to China will ya!check you sources. When the protest were at their height in Madison over Walker and his collective bargain mess. FOX reported 30,000 protesters at the Capital in Madison. Other sources reported 125,000 to 150,000. Conservative liars! Remember I was a Goldwater Liberal at one time.

    • 2 votes
    #1.76 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 8:09 AM EST
    • Hey Ticked Off in Ohio --- can we count on you getting back to us on Wednesday morning to explain why Romney LOST the Ohio and the election? How about you Elliot - can we expect the same from you.
    • 4 votes
    #1.77 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST

    Charlie,

    I want them to do that, but with the brainwashing FOX Network Nation you never can tell what new lie will be believed by the unthinking, uneducated, right wing neo-Nazi like right!

    • 3 votes
    #1.78 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:29 AM EST

    Nobody has voiced an opinion as to my challenge yet! If Romney's home state is showing him trialing by 28% points what do the people of Mass. know already that we don't want to find out? Could it be that using the veto 800+ times shows that he lied about being bi-partisan? That all the other things he has told one group and then told differently to another shows he's a lying piece of crap!

    • 4 votes
    #1.79 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:33 AM EST

    I hope everyone is going to stay up late on Tuesday just to hear Romney's concession speech.

    • 5 votes
    #1.80 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:57 AM EST

    I just shake my head when I hear these comments about VP Biden. The man is unbelievably youthful for his age, especially with the daily stress that he must be under during this intense campaigning. I have always admired Joe Biden through the years, he has got a great record for serving our country, and now I admire him even more!

    I cannot help but wonder how many of the GOP/TP that are making these cracks remember when Reagan was President during his second term. He was 78 years old when he left office and was suffering from Alzheimer's Disease. I remember embarrassing moments when he was on camera and his wife, Nancy, would have to mutter simple answers to him when the press would ask questions. Not the man's fault, of course, but the Reagan Administration was desperate to cover it up and used Reagan as a puppet his last few years.

    The enormous deficit Reagan left behind was the largest debt America had ever incurred at that time. He said it was "the greatest disappointment of his Presidency."

    It was ours, too, Mr. Reagan.

    • 1 vote
    #1.81 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:04 PM EST

    Biden is more than confused; he's incompetent and senile.

    Romney easily wins Colorado.

      #1.82 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:52 AM EST

      Colorado Man,

      Try having a right wing nut like Ryan as your representative and then have him stuck on his math. and facts of his "Plan to Ruin America!" and just walk out when he couldn't answer the many people questioning him. Confused? ?No? Ignorant of what he is proposing, Yes!

        #1.83 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 9:04 PM EST
        Reply

        Thank goodness this thing's almost over…it has distracted the heck out of me.

        I'm even more grateful that most Republicans - the informed, smart ones, not most of the ones who post here on First Read - know that the Electoral College math is in Mr. Obama's favor.

        You can tell it by where Mr. Romney and his surrogates are campaigning this weekend…trying to find another path to 270 without Ohio since they know the numbers and have to find a back up plan.

        Plus, you can tell by how extra-nasty the people here are who are supporting Mr. Romney. There's a desperation in their mean posts - name-calling, odd typed laughter, etc. - that relay what is really going on.

        They know it. It makes me feel better. So, start it up, guys...

        • 54 votes
        #2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

        malarson,

        Yes, the electoral count is too heavy of a lift for the R&R team.

        Obama will be reelected.

        Joe Biden has a little humor in his speech, he is feeling good.

        And the RWNJ on this thread and others today are engaged in their last primal scream!

        They really thought people would listen to them if they were more outrageous, angry, hateful, vile in their rantings??

        Malarson,

        Have a great weekend,

        and don't forget to set your clock back!

        • 46 votes
        #2.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

        malarson,

        Please tell me that moderation in the Republican Party can and will be restored. I miss it.

        Northstar,

        Forgot about the clocks.....thanks.

        • 27 votes
        #2.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

        Uncle Joe is right, Romney/Ryan want to get rid of Planned Parenthood, FEMA, Social Security, Medicare, Big Bird, Abortion rights, Gay rights, Bank regulations, Minimum Wage ... and 47% of us. Romney/Ryan are running on the 'Walmart Plan' - but prices aren't what they are trying to "Roll Back".

        • 46 votes
        #2.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

        Good post Malarson. These guys Like Ticked off and Elliot are Romney's Rapid response team. Every time something comes that show Romney is loosing the get in her to try to down play it. ticked off is trying to crash this site with his 10 page post. Good thing it did't work, but nice try Ticked off in Ohio, Your really going to be ticked off on Tue.

        • 36 votes
        #2.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

        "With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.

        (In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)


        Pretty sad when even NBC has started correcting Biden's lies.


        P.S.

        "He should talk to Big Bird!" he added,

        Well, at least Biden knows his audience; too dumb to care about anything that matter, so throw them some meaningless, small-minded catch phrases to comprehend and repeat to themselves.

        Is it a campaign for the U.S. presidency or an elementary school pep rally? just pathetic.

        • 7 votes
        #2.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

        People DIED & Obama LIED..............

        Just waht we need in a Commander-in-Chief.......

        Always be wary of a leader that keeps telling you he's in-charge..................

        Leaders lead...... community organizers...... move back to Chicago.............

        • 10 votes
        #2.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

        Good post.

        The Repugs are getting nervous as D-Day is coming....

        • 22 votes
        #2.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:54 PM EDT

        Steve, do you want a draft dodging, tax evading coward to be CinC? Someone whose daddy sent him to France to avoid NAM ? If thats your idea of a leader, good luck.

        • 21 votes
        #2.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:21 PM EDT
        Radcliffe4Deleted

        If indeed Ohio gives their support to our President Obama to keep our great America moving forward and not being bought by the wealthy. Then let me be the first to Thank You for not being blinded by the Romney/Ryan's of the world. Ohio will go down in the history books as a great state that helped to bring us out of the great depression that Bush put us into and Romney/Ryan would have put us back into. As for the other swing states, don't let us go backwards now when things are going in a positive direction.

        Again, Thank You Ohio.

        Your neighbor from Pennsylvania-Obama/Biden 2012

        • 16 votes
        #2.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

        G-Dog-787120 - So are we purposely overlooking the fact the Biden voted yes for the granddaddy of all de-regulation bills?

        http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354

        • 2 votes
        #2.11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

        With Bail out number 3 in full swing, and the banks getting more Free money, Obama is thinkking his odds of winning might just pay off. After all Americans are to stupid to look up stuff on there own and buy the main stream media hook line and sinker !

        Benghazi and Youtubegate, Obama at the UN stump talking about our Freedom of speech needs limits so we don't offend ??

        Fast and Furious , Obama at the stump talking with Mexico's President, saying out 2nd amendment rights need to be taken...

        Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money , Give me your Freedoms !

        Help him finish taking what he started, Help him Finish America !

        • 1 vote
        #2.12 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

        I dare any of you right-wing nutjobs to post demonstratable proof that President Obama has "taken away your freedoms" in any way. Compare that to the so-called Patriot Act that Dubya Shrub rammed down everyone's throats, and you have no leg to stand on.

        When will people stop being stupid enough to realize that past performance is the indicator of future results?

        If it weren't for the massive and highly-orchestrated obstructionist campaign to prevent the President from accomplishing anything, we would be so much farther along the road of recovery than we are. What recovery we've had has been in SPITE of the RepubliCONS, not because of them.

        You treasonous slime need to finally own up to the fact that Mittens changes his positions faster than he changes his magical blessed underoos. He will say or do anything to get elected. Robme has only told people what he thinks they want to hear, not what he will really do. He will strip the middle class, and divide this nation much more deeply than the Tea Gaggers already have.

        A vote for Robme is a vote to return the United States to the robber-baron age.

        How can the Greed Only Party claim to love America, when they so clearly hate the average American?

        • 4 votes
        #2.13 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 2:20 AM EST

        Well said Evil.

        • 3 votes
        #2.14 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 2:36 AM EST

        Fascinates me that some of you are concerned about Romney serving in the military. You apply a different standard to Clinton, Biden and Obama.

          #2.15 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:04 AM EST

          Did you see all the entities Mitt created when he was both CEO, sole shareholder of Bain Capital and at the same time was not involved with Bain in any way?

          There are about forty of them. BCIP, BCI, BCA, all Bain Capital something.

          That's how he made his money. Creating these fake companies that were run by ghost CEOs and used inherited wealth to take over troubled companies, mortgage them up to their eyeballs, loot the assets and retirement funds, and lay everyone off. Then they sold the carcass and pocketed every bit of the cash.

          That's Willard's idea of business. Doesn't sound like a fair and equitable businessman to me. He sounds more like the Vulture that he has been described as.

          This phantom vote movement that Wrongme is counting on is not there. He'll lose by somewhere around 51 to 52% against 47 to 48%.

          Wednesday is not going to be a fun day for the baggers.

          • 2 votes
          #2.16 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:01 AM EST

          lulu - there was no draft when Obama was of age. Biden's son served in the military. No double standard there. Wrongme applied FOUR times for a religious deferment so he could go to France and recruit new members for his cult. Then he lied about it. This is a matter of public record.

          In 1994, Romney said, "It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft."

          This is an outright, provable lie.

          • 2 votes
          #2.17 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:06 AM EST
          Reply

          Biden's confused... he thinks America is voting for 'Entertainer of the Year', not Commander-In-Chief.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

          Like I said…this guy posted the comment above twice. Out of four comments total. Yikes.

          • 23 votes
          Reply#4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

          It is funnier the second time though!

          • 4 votes
          #4.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

          Funny? More like odd. Things are to the point that we are openly making fun of your "fearless leader". Big Bird is smarter than that Mittwit.

          • 10 votes
          #4.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

          It is scary that Joe Biden is just a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He reminds me of that "funny" uncle at the Thanksgiving Day dinner table that every one hope does not get into awkward story telling that either embarrasses or annoys everyone in the family.

          • 5 votes
          #4.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:23 PM EDT

          Ron & Jeff:

          Guess a photo op with Republican Chris Christie wasn't quite enough time for Obama to learn how to be a real leader. SAD.

          REVENGE? With that mentality, he reduces himself to a 5th grade cry baby. How about, "I will do whatever it takes to work with the Congress." Hmmm?

          Romney/Ryan 2012

          • 3 votes
          #4.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:56 PM EDT
          Radcliffe4Deleted

          What's even scarier is that Romney is actually considered a viable candidate by the right, along with his partner in crime Ryan. Sorry if Joe is too middle class for you - maybe if he was more elite he would be OK.

          • 7 votes
          #4.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

          "Independent Thought" - yeah, sure...independent. Your constant vitriolic attacks against Democrats for being Democrats show just how independent you are. Obama has tried, in spite of right wing lies, to work with Congress, but that's pretty hard to do when their stated purpose - ON VIDEO - is to make sure he is a one-term president. The Republican leadership should be on trial for treason, not for trumped-up crap that the right tries to pin on Obama, but for actual treasonous behavior that is public record.

          But what does that matter when your ideology is so much more important than your country? Romney/Ryan may actually be the first ticket to lose their own states in a General. Romney is losing Michigan AND Massachusetts (by a wide margin...says quite a bit about his actual leadership), while Ryan is losing Wisconsin...perhaps in both the VP and House races.

          • 9 votes
          #4.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

          I'm sure Romney's totally honest. I mean sure Bain Capital did some bad things in 2000, 2001 and 2002 but Romney retroactively resigned in 2002 back to 1999 so its not his fault. I've never quite understood how you could sign papers in 2000, 2001 and 2002 as CEO and sole owner then retroactively sell the company in 1999 but I'm sure it's all on the up and up.

          • 9 votes
          #4.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

          Larry - look at all the entities created by Wrongme to hide his cannibalistic activities:

          For example, on February 14, 2001, a number of Bain entities filed a Form 13G to indicate they had acquired more than five percent of the ownership of a company called Chippac,Inc. The “reporting persons” included Bain Capital Fund VI; Bain Capital Partners VI (“BCP”);Bain Capital Investors VI (“BCI”); BCIP Associates II (“BCIP”); BCIP Associates II-B (“BCI-B”); BCIP Associates II-C (“BCIP-C”); BCIP Trust Associates II (“BCIP-T”); BCIP TrustAssociates II-B (“BCIPT-B”); Bain Capital, Inc.( “BC”); PEP Investments Pty Ltd. (“PEP”); andMitt Romney.

          They forgot one" BSBCV, Inc. - Bull Sheet Bain Capital Vultures, Inc.

          Tagg is doing the exact same thing. Like father, like son. Same with Matt. A family of vultures. The scariest one is Tagg, who bought the company that controls voting machines in Ohio. That's their backstop plan.

          • 1 vote
          #4.9 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:11 AM EST
          Reply
          Comment author avatarDee TenExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Joe Biden has a bad case of oral dysentery.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

          What have you found that clears it up the best?

          • 4 votes
          #5.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:38 PM EDT
          Comment author avataraworldofhurtExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Greentimer, yes I did find something that will clear it up really, really well. Get that clown out of office along with his partner.

          • 10 votes
          #5.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

          "With all the issues facing the country, Gov. Romney has focused on for the last three months [that] he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood" Biden said.

          (In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)

          Just the latest attempt by a Democrat to create fear amongst voters of losing a government handout, even NBC isn't impressed with the rhetoric and interjected some reality for a change.

          • 6 votes
          #5.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

          To be fair pjam09, defunding Planned Parenthood is effectively destroying it. Equivalence is a wonderful little tool which makes neocons look like the warmonger morons they are.

          • 11 votes
          #5.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:49 PM EDT

          GreenTimer -

          Sewing the lips together...but this has a bad side effect...since congenital brain farts are the major cause of oral dysentery, once the lips are sewn together the patient goes around honking through their nose...most annoying...

          • 2 votes
          #5.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

          Yeah, all the righties here constantly attack NBC for being too liberal, when that does not actually appear to be the case at all. But they whine and whine, then proudly boast of Fox News, which has admitted they are in the bag for the right and are entertainment, not news.

          And just so you are aware, Romney DID say he was going to kill Planned Parenthood, he didn't just say de-fund it. Perhaps he misspoke, as he is wont to do, but it IS what he said. Too bad, righties...you can have your own opinions, but you cannot have your own facts. NBC should not have inserted that in there unless they were to clarify it and/or state this was not a news but an opinion piece. Not that any of the right wingers know the difference...

          The test is pretty simple. Is the program so critical, it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it? And on that basis of course you get rid of Obamacare, that's the easy one. Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that. The subsidy for Amtrak, I'd eliminate that. The National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities," Romney said.

          Oooohhh, sorry...damned facts!

          • 7 votes
          #5.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:51 PM EDT

          Thanks for posting that. I knew Romney had said he would end Planned Parenthood. There's no mistaking his own words, no matter how the Fright Wing tries to parse or spin it.

          • 8 votes
          #5.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:32 PM EDT

          Obama and Biden don't have to pretend to be something they're not to win. Romney was down by 10 points a few months ago with Ryan referring to Romney as stench and Romney's team to Ryan as Gilligan. Now it's close because Romney suddenly pretends to be a moderate. Romney pretended to be a far right candidate to win his party and now to be a moderate to win the election. If the right wing agenda was so great you'd think they could sell it.

          • 10 votes
          #5.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

          That oral dysentary is further complicated by a galloping case of OPTO-RECTALIS !

          • 1 vote
          #5.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

          Dee Ten and aworldofhurt,

          Thank you for sharing how you've overcome this malady yourselves. Experience is always the best teacher.

          • 3 votes
          #5.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:46 PM EDT

          Wonder why Mittens won't explain to the American people why he does not want them to have health care...

          • 5 votes
          #5.11 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 2:23 AM EST

          It is pretty difficult to explain why Obamacare, based almost exactly upon Mitt's Romneycare, is socialist, yet the plan Obamacare was based upon is lily white and good for the state.

          What's good for the goose is good for the gander, but not in Wrongme World.

          Just ask Willard. He'll explain it to you.

          "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love." –Mitt Romney (January 2012)

          "I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)

          • 2 votes
          #5.12 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:15 AM EST

          GreenTimer -

          You're welcome to the information! I've certainly had a lot of experience through the years listening to bloviating politicians and acolytes.

          After awhile the disease and the cure just become obvious... Kinda like Newton finally recognized gravity after behind hit on the head by an apple.

            #5.13 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 10:08 AM EST
            Reply
            Comment author avatarDoc SteExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I can't believe this guy is VP. He has to be the biggest bonehead in the government. I would love it if someone would post all of his gaffs in a row. The Dems would even be embarrased if someone could just line them all up to hear. It's gotten to the point where when he bashes Romney he actually is helping Romney win the election. Because no one takes him seriously!

            • 7 votes
            #6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

            This statement coming from someone who voted for Sarah Palin. You folks are a sad lot.

            • 41 votes
            #6.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

            Doc Ste: Are you talking about the same VP who kicked Ryan's ass all over the table in the VP debates? Hmmmmmm. You really have a fine, analytical mind, haven't you??!!?? hahahhaha geeeeeeeezzz........


            .

            • 42 votes
            #6.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

            Wow did Biden make ryan look like a 3rd stringer.

            • 36 votes
            #6.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

            TJ Biden looked like a cheshire cat grinning. He's a bafoon, it's not a big deal he running for VP not Pres.

            We needed some humor during the campaign.

            • 9 votes
            #6.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

            Doc. Little Bush couldn't even talk in English. He spoke better Spanish then English. Joe my not get the words just right all the time, but his heart is Golden. And we love Joe where I come from. I love a man that is not afraid to call Bull Sh t when he hears BS. We Dem's are not even a little embarrassed by Joe Biden. He unlike Mitten is a good decent man, that didn't steal his money from working people like Romney did.

            • 32 votes
            #6.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

            Joe, aka the plagarist, is a decent guy? He is a joke along with O'Malley here in MD. Just think, they both think they should run for President in 2016. OMG! What a disaster that would be!

            • 6 votes
            #6.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

            Potatoe...really, from a VP. I'll take Joe every time.

            And "ticked in ohio". rest up. you'll need your energy just to stay sane.

            • 10 votes
            #6.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

            The left are all about the BULLY Biden................

            Joe couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag..................

            • 4 votes
            #6.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

            For Biden to be such a loser, he seems to cause you much grief.

            • 6 votes
            #6.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:31 PM EDT

            @Steve, then how did he literally crush ryan in the debate without breaking a sweat? Yes, he stopped ryan from finishing lies that were coming out of his mouth, but is that bullying, I think not.

            • 10 votes
            #6.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

            I guess that if Biden is such a loser, that would make Ryan a puddle of goo. Biden destroyed that smirking little liar during the debate, but if he is so bad at arguing, what does that say about Ryan? You folks on the right are so busy spreading manure you don't even notice when that manure buries your own candidates.

            • 7 votes
            #6.11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

            I asked a friend of mine how he could vote for Romney. He said he's voting for Romney for the same reason he voted for Bush. A 20% tax cut means several thousand less in taxes. He just shrugged when I asked how Romney could possibly cut tax rates 20%, increase military spending and balance the budget, he said probably the same way Bush did.

            • 5 votes
            #6.12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

            If interrupting Ryan over 80 times is destroying someone, then, yes, Biden did that. But, at least Ryan's sentences and facts have substance to them, not childish comments and laughing like Little Joe did. And to think he is currently vp.

              #6.13 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:29 AM EDT

              Biden just put up a stop sign everytime Ryan tried the prevaricating BS that Romney did in the 1st debate. Since the moderator was not willing to call BS, Biden did.

              I thought it was great. I'll watch them again after the election because I want to remind myself why Willard and Lyin' Ryan were the most dangerous and misguided candidates ever on the top ticket.

              • 1 vote
              #6.14 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:19 AM EST

              Doc Ste -

              Admirable goal but NBCnews won't allow a comment that large on the discussion list...the chronicle of Joe Biden gaffes would be a tome...

                #6.15 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 10:17 AM EST
                Reply

                Romney in Pennsylvania makes liberals nervous, so they claim it is a "Hail Mary"...

                Even the NY Times admitted that the Keystone State is tilting toward Romney late...

                Minnesota is my surprise Romney state... a gay marriage vote is on the ballot. Since gay marriage is 0 for 32 when up for a vote, Romney will benefit from this issue, just as Bush did in 2004.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

                Bob in VA,

                Mn will be in the blue column. Obama will win our electroal votes.

                The Dems will take back our State senate, reelect our Democratic Senator, and defeat both amendments on the ballot.

                Sure the right wing religious extremists will turn out to vote, but we have less than some other states, most are in Michele Bachmann's district.

                The only close race will be Michele Bachmann vs Jim Graves and independents are going for Graves in greater numbers.

                • 29 votes
                #7.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                Bob,

                You fought a good fight and I respect you for that but in all honesty the numbers simply aren't there anymore for Romney.

                I know that you want and need Romney to hold on to Virginia, being your home state and all, but I'm afraid that both Virginia and Florida are going to fall. Virginia because of the the northern part of the state and Florida because Romney's lead has ALWAYS been an illusion propped up by outlier polling.

                I'm not trying to pick a fight here...Lord knows we've all done enough of that lately.

                Post #1.10 above isn't meant as my opportunity to gloat nor is it intended to inflame you but the numbers are real and the analysis is solid.

                • 27 votes
                #7.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                @Northstar - I hear Bachmann's campaign is going down in flames. Sounds like her new concoction in a can, Spray the Gay Away, was a tad too effective and cost her some votes.

                • 23 votes
                #7.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                Hello, Bob. Good to hear from you - telling us about what's really happenin' - from the very heart of spin country.

                Like how liberals are quaking in their boots because Romney is going to speak in PA, and like how the NYT doesn't report factual news, but only "admits" items which make conservatives ecstatic, and like how presidential choices swing on the rights of gays.

                Is it possible

                that liberals are not gnashing their teeth about a Romney event,

                that news reports in the NYT are meant to provide information for people who pay good money to get accurate information, and, finally,

                that there are people in this world who see no correlation between gay marriage and the leadership of this country?

                No, none of those things could possibly be true in the idealogical pure world of conspiratorial politics. Those things are possible only in the world of critically thinking American pragmatists.

                • 15 votes
                #7.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                you mean draft dodger Romney!!!

                • 16 votes
                #7.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

                He was not a draft dodger,he spent the war years doing Missionary work in the impoverished country of France. France? You can't make this stuff up.

                • 12 votes
                #7.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                Ummm D.Mack, Romney spent his time in France being a cheerleader FOR the draft, as long as HE didn't have to go.

                • 15 votes
                #7.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:22 PM EDT

                Romney should make every sane american nervous.

                • 6 votes
                #7.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

                Hey RON4 I guess we must respect Obummer's military service--- now let's see, didn't he serve as a Corpse Man?

                • 1 vote
                #7.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:53 PM EDT
                Reply

                Let's hope he remembers what state he is in. From Biden yesterday it was " for the past four years there hasn't been a day go by when he has been able to trust the President" 2 days ago while in Ohio, he wanted to let the crowd know how good it was to be in Iowa,

                The gift that just keeps giving.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

                Joe Biden is the best Vice President this Nation has ever had. Unlike that a talking lying buffoon Willard Romney.

                • 26 votes
                #8.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

                Romney is runningfor President Ryan for VP, your sounding like poor ole Joe all confused.

                • 6 votes
                #8.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

                Job1, go easy on the superlatives. VP's are hard to compare. But I can think of several that would top Biden including Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson.

                • 9 votes
                #8.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                Best VP? You're kidding. Green timer had excellent examples of much better VPs.

                • 6 votes
                #8.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                "There's never been a day in the last four years I've been proud to be his vice president"

                Now that says it all. No thought. No brains. And you want us to count on the fact that this guy may be the President by default? Not my house, not my neighborhood, not my town, not my state, and CERTAINLY not my country.

                • 4 votes
                #8.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                Talk to the Hand-----There is a word in the Northeasten Md, Northern DE, Southern NJ. Southeastern PA area known as I'vent....It means I Have Not...

                There are words across the country like this...

                In SC some people call shrimp scrimps, and school strool.....and screwed up strewed up.....

                But you keep thinking this will win the election for the Liars, but it won't...

                • 10 votes
                #8.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                Thats why his mommy named him Joke Biteme !

                • 3 votes
                #8.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

                Lyndon B Johnson???!!! You're out of your mind! And then he made to be a crap president too!

                • 1 vote
                #8.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

                Job 1, please don't post when you are drunk or stoned.

                • 1 vote
                #8.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

                Give poor, tired, old Bozobiden a break; maybe he can get wheeled into a nursing home, if he can remember what state he's living in.

                  #8.10 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:24 AM EST
                  Reply

                  FR:

                  (In context, Romney said last spring he was going to "get rid" of federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not get rid of the entity itself.)

                  No he did NOT say he was going to get rid of federal funding for Planned Parenthood. He said he was going to get rid of Planned Parenthood itself. Here is his exact quote:

                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/mitt-romney-planned-parenthood_n_1343450.html

                  "Of course you get rid of Obamacare, that's the easy one, but there are others," he said. "Planned Parenthood, we're going to get rid of that."

                  It's pathetic that the so-called "liberal media" like First Read has to step in to assist Mitt Romney in removing his foot from his mouth while implying that Biden wasn't telling the truth when he was 100% accurate in characterizing what Romney blithely and carelessly asserted.

                  • 29 votes
                  Reply#9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

                  We all know Romney was talking about federal funding of PP. get a grip.

                  • 5 votes
                  #9.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                  lulu98

                  We all know Romney was talking about federal funding of PP. get a grip.

                  We all know Romney didn't know what the heck he was blathering about. He was just string words together that he thought would please his tea bag base. Get a clue.

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

                  @all above, defunding planned parenthood is effectively getting rid of it. Let's just realize that little equivalency.

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

                  Ah, the right wing - first they say Biden was wrong about what he said Romney stated (Biden was correct), then they try to pass it off as Romney MEANT something else. Yeah, Romney ALWAYS means something else; if you don't believe me, just listen to him and his handlers as they backpedal on yet another Romney clueless statement. And the right has the temerity to whine about Biden...amazing.

                  But I guess Romney was the best they could come up with. Sad, but it says a lot.

                  • 8 votes
                  #9.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

                  Clearly responding to what he say's instead of what he meant is unfair. But if we don't judge him by what he say's how can we possibly know what he actually meant? Maybe he thought planned parent hood was a federal agency.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.5 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST

                  @Houston, Guess the same for Obama thinking there are 57 states. PP gets partial funding from the government. It will not go away as some of you mistakenly think. You can get your checkbook out to support it.

                    #9.6 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:08 AM EST
                    Reply

                    The real scary part is Biden is one step from the Commander in Chief.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

                    The scary part is Ryan wants his job. Ryan is still licking his wounds after Biden kicked his...

                    • 24 votes
                    #10.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                    Biden looked like an idiot grinning and snikering, his cheshire cat grin was very becoming

                    • 8 votes
                    #10.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                    Ryan looked like a little girl. Joe was not putting up with his memorized lines and lies. Let's face it. Ryan is not ready for primetime.

                    • 29 votes
                    #10.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                    Biden past prime time. LOL

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                    hesea I doubt your even an American. So you really don't have a say anyway.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

                    The scary part is Biden is one step from the Commander in Chief.

                    The reason Bush wasn't assassinated was that Cheney would be president. The reason Clinton wasn't assassinated is Gore would have been President. Think about it......

                    I would think that had Mc Cain had been elected his life would NEVER had been in danger at all.

                    • 9 votes
                    #10.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                    Biden's stupid grinning made him look hyped up on some drug. The only explanation for his continuing obnoxious behavior.

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                    the reason for his behavior was Ryan. He was freekin' hilarious. I was laughing nervously too. ryan was sooo absurd, he was truly laughable.

                    • 11 votes
                    #10.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                    True. Joe did not put up with Ayn Ryan's malarkey and gave him a schooling.

                    • 6 votes
                    #10.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

                    Funny (not really) how the right wingers all remark about Biden's smirking, but not a word about Ryan's smirks. Of course, they won't go near the matter that Ryan was lying during a good part of the debate and was thrown off by Biden constantly, as Biden messed up his rehearsed and memorized BS. If any of you were ever involved in debating, it would have been obvious to you that Ryan did not prepare for a debate...it was more like he prepared for a dramatic reading.

                    When you have a clown like Ryan for a VP candidate, you have little room to point fingers at Biden.

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:30 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    How can you trust anyone who makes this vow to the children to this country, then breaks it by creating a never ending ever growing debt crisis that has turned our country into the Greece of the America's?

                    In February 2009, Democratic President Barack Obama stated:

                    I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay. And that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.

                    "Remarks at the Fiscal Responsibility Summit." By Barack Obama. Government
                    Printing Office, February 23, 2009. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/presdocs/2009/DCPD200900102.htm

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

                    And how can you trust Romney, a man that lies to you on a daily basis.

                    • 28 votes
                    #11.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

                    What happened. The Rep's are what happened. This Debt we have was run up under Little Bush. Tax breaks that were not paid for. 2 Wars that were not paid for. John McCain" Rep's are spending money like Drunken Sailors" Every time the Rep's have power, We get a rescission That the Dem's have to fix. That's what happened.

                    • 21 votes
                    #11.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                    Bush added $5.1 trillion to the national debt in 8 years.

                    Obama added over $6 trillion to the national debt in less that 4 years.

                    Obama hired Bush's economic adviser Bernanke and stayed the Bush economic course of bailouts, stimulus and tax cuts to the rich.

                    What don't you comprehend?

                    • 8 votes
                    #11.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                    You seem to have forgotten that bush/cheney kept the cost of the wars and the tax cut off the book in an effort to make himself look not so bad. Obama did the honest thing and put those costs on the books for everyone to see. But you are blind...........

                    This deficit that everyone is so upset about belongs to you republicons. It is your baby.

                    CHART OF THE DAY: Reminder, The Deficit You're Freaking Out About Is Bush's Fault

                    • 10 votes
                    #11.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

                    What happened, switch 1.1 trillion from obama to bush, because the budget of 09 was still bush's, and then there's the stimulus, and then there's repairing Bush's damage to the economy. That's a fact check for you.

                    • 4 votes
                    #11.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:02 PM EDT

                    Wrong every end of the fiscal year there is an accounting of what the government spent. So every year the monies for the wars was accounted for. If you want to go down this road where and what page and line is Obama's military spending? Since he and the democrats have yet to have a budget by your logic the last 4 years have been off the books

                    • 2 votes
                    #11.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:05 PM EDT

                    Northern, there is a literal federal credit card. Bush put the wars on it, Obama took them off and put them directly on the budget. You can do look this up. CBO can confirm this.

                    • 7 votes
                    #11.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                    northern MI

                    Wrong every end of the fiscal year there is an accounting of what the government spent. So every year the monies for the wars was accounted for. If you want to go down this road where and what page and line is Obama's military spending? Since he and the democrats have yet to have a budget by your logic the last 4 years have been off the books

                    You are wrong end of story.

                    The Bush years have put our Country so far in a hole with his passing the debt down the road it will take more than 10 years to even get a grip on it.

                    Unless the tax cuts are removed and the wars ended we will head into another great depression.

                    Ignore the facts all you want too, that doesn't make them any less true.

                    I can tell you right now Michigan will go for Obama you can take that to your local credit union.

                    We will not forget Romney's actions during the Crisis and what he wanted to do to our state.

                    Vote Obama/Biden 2012! Protect Women's and Worker's Rights.

                    • 6 votes
                    #11.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

                    Patrick, that is never going to happen. People like northern loved the false numbers. As long as it does not fall on a Republican then it must belong to the other party. We all knew that the spending for both of the wars was not on the books. The tax cut? When they were asked how they were going to pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy, they said that they did not need to pay for it, that they would pay for themselves. What they meant was that the rest of the population was going to pay for them. In order to get the last agreement on the reduction in the Medicare payroll tax, they eliminated three pay steps in the Federal income tax code. Do you know who took the brunt of that? It was those at the lowest rung, that is who. I was very upset with the President and others for going along with this, it was not fair. The other thing is that instead of lowering the Medicare tax what they should have done is raise the limit from just over $100,000.00 to around $150,000.00. That would have brought in more revenue for the Fund instead of what we have now which is less. Now they are talking about the draconian measures for cuts that are going to go into effect because they could not come to an agreement on the debt ceiling last year. Everyone agreed that would be what would happen, now they want to back away because it is about to become a reality. Look if you did not want this they you should have acted honorably and faithfully during the discussions. There is so much more that people could find out if they would just go to the GAO, CBO and IRS sites. It's not too late, research and inform yourselves!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

                    But Patric93 Obummer has never had a budget and is too stupid to understand one anyway.

                    • 1 vote
                    #11.10 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

                    Ferndoc: How does a comment like that indicate the presence of ANY intelligence from the source? Are you guys EVER going to graduate from hate radio slogans or the pretense that you are smarter than everyone who holds an opinion different from yours? How many conversations have you had with the prez in order to come to such a conclusion? One finger points away and three point back at you.

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.11 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:01 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Biden showed Ryan that Ryan was waaaayyyy out his league.

                    • 20 votes
                    Reply#12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                    Biden certainly did prove that Biden is still in Little League.

                    I wouldn't tolerate the type of disrespect and childish, clueless mockery that Biden displayed out of City Hall member much less a politician on the national stage.

                    • 4 votes
                    #12.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                    Biden showed Ryan that you don't have to be sane to be vp !

                    • 3 votes
                    #12.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:47 PM EDT

                    Um, did everyone forget biden simply kept ryan from completing his lies, and simply corrected him midsentence? I mean, he got somewhat angry towards the end because that's all Paul could offer, but really. You're telling me Joe Biden is mean for stopping someone from telling blatant lies?

                    • 6 votes
                    #12.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

                    Biden wiped the floor with Ryan, and the right wing then states that Biden is just plain awful. Gee, what does that say about Ryan?

                    • 4 votes
                    #12.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:33 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    The one state Biden always knows he is in, is his state of confusion. LOL

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#13 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

                    Agreed.

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                    Hesea--you append an "LOL" to your own comment?

                    If you have to laugh at your own joke it ain't that funny.

                    • 12 votes
                    #13.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                    Well actually RAB VW Hesea's joke was that funny 'cause it made you mad !

                    • 1 vote
                    #13.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                    Let's see...Biden is confused and worthless, yet mopped the floor with Ryan during their debate. Guess that says a lot about Ryan...more than it does about Biden. Good argument, righties.

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:35 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Remember Benghazi and the 4 murdered Americans, as well as the incompetence and cover up committed by the Obama administration when you go to vote. You'll never get the truth about what happened from Obama or NBC, CBS, or ABC.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#14 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

                    It happened to close to the election for Obama to come clean on what happeded, we'll find out after the election.

                    • 5 votes
                    #14.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                    Hey Steve what about the Thousands Little Bush killed when he lied us into Iraq. What about that. WMD's remember that Steve. If we would have had more people in Benghazi, we would have had more Americans dead. That is the fact.. You just keep raising hell about 4 dead and don't worry about the Thousands your guys killed. Enough Said Steve.

                    • 18 votes
                    #14.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                    Hey chuck how about the support he had from the Dems prior to it? To help you digest, please read from another post on Friday. Oh and note, 7 of the quotes were prior to 2000.

                    Notsosure10

                    This is just for you and your claim about it being all President Bush's fault we went to Iraq.

                    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the
                    capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver
                    them. That is our bottom line."

                    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

                    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
                    We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
                    destruction program."

                    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

                    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
                    deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
                    chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
                    security threat we face."

                    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

                    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
                    since 1983."

                    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

                    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
                    U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
                    appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
                    effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
                    programs."

                    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:

                    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct.
                    9, 1998

                    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
                    destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
                    made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

                    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

                    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
                    destruction and palaces for his cronies."

                    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

                    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
                    programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
                    continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
                    continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
                    licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
                    United States and our allies."

                    Letter to President Bush, Signed by:

                    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

                    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
                    threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of
                    the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means
                    of delivering them."

                    -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

                    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
                    weapons throughout his country."

                    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

                    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
                    deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
                    power."

                    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

                    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
                    developing weapons of mass destruction."

                    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

                    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
                    confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
                    biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build
                    up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports
                    indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."

                    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

                    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
                    to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that
                    a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and
                    grave threat to our security."

                    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

                    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
                    aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
                    within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always
                    underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass
                    destruction."

                    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

                    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
                    every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy
                    his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
                    refused to do"

                    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

                    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
                    that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
                    stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
                    given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ...
                    It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
                    increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep
                    trying to develop nuclear weapons."

                    -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

                    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
                    Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
                    for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."

                    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

                    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
                    murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly
                    grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And
                    now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his
                    consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam
                    Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."

                    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

                    At least President Bush had the voted support of Congress before he sent troops to Iraq...President Obama bombed Libya all on his own...with no voted support from Congress. The result was a windfall for the local radical islamist who took the weapons and overthrew a stable and peaceful nation called Mali. More blow back for the President to explain.

                    • 5 votes
                    #14.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

                    Amen Steve.

                    Americans are going to give Obama and his cronies their pink slip. We won't forget how the President and his administration Lied to us about the Ambassadors murder.

                    If you ever listen to Joe Biden: after he finishes speaking you wish he hadn't opened his mouth because you feel dumber after hearing what he just said.

                    This administration lies like a rug and is incompetent. Vote them all out.

                    • 4 votes
                    #14.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

                    All based on Cheney's lies that Scooter is still paying for while sitting in jail. Darth Cheney saw to it that Valerie Plame was outed and exposed as an active intelligence agent.

                    Now stfu and climb back into your bubble.

                    • 10 votes
                    #14.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:32 PM EDT

                    Yeah, why aren't the oh so patriotic republicons upset that bush/cheney outed the CIA agent in charge of looking for WMD? Was it because there weren't any?

                    • 9 votes
                    #14.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:49 PM EDT

                    The right has one set of rules for the left and no rules at all for themselves.

                    By the way, righties, since Reagan murdered all those guys in the barracks in Lebanon, you gonna quit worshipping him? And Democrats saying that they are against Iraq having weapons of mass destruction (and then making sure they are gone without an invasion) is not the same as Bush making crap up and invading a country on a lie.

                    • 7 votes
                    #14.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:39 PM EDT

                    Hey left wing. You're confusing these guys with facts. Don't you see the futility in that? They just come out swinging with their eyes closed. Pathetic really. The Republican party had thinkers in it a few decades ago...

                    • 3 votes
                    #14.8 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:10 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    You go Joe, we think your great...

                    The way Joe cleaned Ryan's clock at the debate and changed his name from Lyin Ryan to Mr Malarkey, Priceless!

                    Can't wait for the election, already bought some etch-a-sketch's for some republican friends! They will laugh, and give them to their grand-kids!

                    O&JOE Forward not back!

                    • 24 votes
                    Reply#15 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                    "The way Joe cleaned Ryan's clock at the debate and changed his name from Lyin Ryan to Mr Malarkey, Priceless!"

                    What more proof do you need that Democrats are like cats mesmerized by a shiny object? The most insignificant drivel is the only things they can seem to wrap their minds around.

                    • 7 votes
                    #15.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

                    Then do explain to the rest of the world how it was paul ryan won that debate. Do go ahead, because only Fox news thought he did.

                    • 6 votes
                    #15.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:05 PM EDT
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                    Well back to Comedy Central after this election we won't be hearing from Joe

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#16 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                    Just got my Obama "A Plan for Jobs" nothing new in here same policies of the past failed 4 years and Obama wants to stay the course.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#17 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                    Yep, the President called upon the Marines to get Osoma - but when the Marines called on him - well history will write that one! Ignoring the truth will not get either of these idiots re-elected! [:-)]

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#18 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                    Obama's "bump in the middle east" is Benghazi that didn't "happen at an optimal time"......so it was the video, then budget cuts, then poor intel, then he let Hiliary take the fall, this is our Commander in Chief

                    • 9 votes
                    #18.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                    Would you people just wait for the investigation to pan out? Yeesh you're trolls who are deciding this the same way everyone is polarizing on the trayvon martin/george zimmerman case.

                    • 4 votes
                    #18.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

                    Yeah, and that criminal Reagan that murdered all those guys in the barracks in Lebanon. Unforgivable.

                    • 4 votes
                    #18.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

                    Hey Patrick93, you mean we should wait and do nothing just like the coward in the White House did?

                    • 3 votes
                    #18.4 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:08 AM EDT

                    If you had the clearances, you could read the CIA Report. Trust me, it is very interesting.

                    • 2 votes
                    #18.5 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

                    You might gain some ground if you knew how to spell! It's O-S-A-M-A . Oh and by the way, Obama WILL be re-elected ;-D

                      #18.6 - Mon Nov 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST
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                      It is hard to believe that Americans voted in Obama and Biden.... Obama should
                      have stuck with his community organizing or moved to France, and Biden should
                      have selected another career... What is worse is there seems to be enough
                      people to barely put these two back in power for another 4 years. By 2016 the
                      nation will be ruined, but Democrats will probably continue to blame Bush....
                      This has been the most negative, disgusting campaign I have seen and I have
                      seen a lot of them. Obama decided to go negative; if he could use his $1
                      billion on negative ads, which he has, he hoped to convince Americans that Romney
                      is a "bad person." But the election is a tossup despite flooding the
                      airways with negative, mostly false, ads.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#19 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                      Go get them Joe!! Hey Colorado! Did my fellow citizens in Colorado hear about the GOP/RNC "Conspiracy?" Yes America! The GOP/RNC Tea Beggers committed treason on Janruary 20, 2009. The GOP/RNC "Fourteen Felons" conspired together to destroy the US Economy, and to destroy the President at all costs. They made a "Blood Oath" too say NO to their country, no too the American People, and a big yes to destroying US Economic growth. Reports state that the GOP/RNC Tea Beggers that night were drunk, and had a 'ladies of the night' under each arm. Reports state that "Nutty Newt" spewed that the seeds of 2012 were planted tonight. It goes even deeper America! The GOP "Fourteen Felons" conspired to show total contempt for the President, and act like it is just not personal. Another lie America by the GOP/RNC! This is an event that every American had better read before they vote. This "Midnight Meeting" proves that the GOP/Tea Beggers intentionally plotted to destroy the US Economy on a Global Scale.

                      • 16 votes
                      Reply#20 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

                      yes they did, and they should all be held accountable for it!! Such as to vote them all out when their term ends, especially Mitch McConnell

                      • 13 votes
                      #20.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:47 PM EDT
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                      Hey, Liberal morons, It's okay to hire the mentally handicapped, but not a good idea to have one as Vice President.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#21 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                      Boozer, is that why Romney picked Lyin' Ryan -to make himself look good with an idiot for a V/P?

                      • 21 votes
                      #21.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                      It's curious how somebody who'd put up a photo of a great American, John Wayne, and yet support a president who stands for everything The Duke hated.

                      • 9 votes
                      #21.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

                      Obama lies - You expect rational behavior from a liberal?

                      He is a simpleton who likes Hollywood actors and "free" government handouts... issues and important matters are not part of his thought process.

                      • 6 votes
                      #21.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

                      The all time runaway winner of the national lie-a-thon is that Mittwit Romney!

                      He lies every day at least once. during one stretch he lied 533 times in 30 weeks! That is over 2 a day!

                      All hail the King of Liars!

                      Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them

                      • 10 votes
                      #21.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                      pjam09 ..

                      a simpleton who likes actors ..

                      have you forgotten ronald reagan was an actor ..

                      • 3 votes
                      #21.5 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:59 AM EDT
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                      Does it bother anyone else that the Romney clan, Mitt and his five sons, that none loved their country enough to serve in any of the active military branches, or National Guard or Peace Core? None of them!

                      It bothers me a bit.

                      • 16 votes
                      Reply#22 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                      So Obama's family were socialists, his father and mentor communists, his buddy, Bill Ayers, tried to blow up the Pentagon and you're concerned a bit about Romney?

                      Really?

                      • 9 votes
                      #22.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

                      "Does it bother anyone else that the Romney clan, Mitt and his five sons, that none loved their country enough to serve in any of the active military branches, or National Guard or Peace Core?"

                      No.

                      Does it bother you that Obama never served?

                      Does it bother you that his children will never serve?

                      Does it bother you that Obama welcomes foreign criminals into the country while so many Americans have sent their own family members overseas to PROTECT America?

                      Does it bother you that he attended the services of pastor who thrived on preaching hatred?

                      Does it bother you that he married a woman who was never proud of her country until she could sit in the White House?

                      Does it bother you that he lied to the American public (and continues to lie) in order to keep his own personal legacy clear of having a terrorist attack occur during his presidency?

                      If it doesn't you don't belong in America.

                      • 7 votes
                      #22.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

                      What branch of the military did Obama serve in? That bothers me a whole lot. I am glad he(OBama) will be gone in January.

                      There's only so many lies you can tell about the murder of 4 of our own in Libya. Goodbye Mr. President: don't let the door hit you in the butt.

                      • 4 votes
                      #22.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

                      Does it bother you that Obama never served in the American Military either?

                      • 2 votes
                      #22.4 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

                      Never has one family spent so much to educate such a lack luster bunch in magic underwear.

                      • 2 votes
                      #22.5 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:15 AM EDT

                      It bothers me that people seem to equate getting a job in one of the armed services to public service or even heroism. No one is a hero for doing their job. Firefighters would be the closest thing as almost every time they do their job it is dangerous and for someone else's benefit. Nearly all of the time in a day to day military job one is not at any risk. It is one of the biggest sacrosanct lies of our time. And looking down on someone for not having been in the military is idiotic. Most people will not be in the military. Are most people therefore terrible people? Of course not; it's a remarkably stupid argument.

                      In fact, the very use of the term patriotism and/or "support for the military" is so backwards it is absurd. Patriots support the USA by keeping the military out of unnecessary conflicts, not saying hi on aircraft carriers bound for far off places where we do not belong. Supporting the military means only a couple of things, keep out of conflicts unless absolutely necessary, provide the requisite equipment to win, take care of the medical needs of the wounded afterward.

                      ----------------------

                      If you want no change in how this nation is governed, then keep voting for democrats and republicans. (extreme sarcasm > ) Because it is always a solid idea to voice the same complaints in forums election after election but do nothing personally to change the status quo. A vote for red Simms or blue Simms is a wasted vote.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.6 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:46 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      I guess this is the type of bull$h!t story we will be seeing from the Owebama Broadcasting Company until Wednesday.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#23 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                      When Vice President Biden speaks the formula is simple. Pick a group of diehard supporters because when he finishes saying the ridiculous things he does you want the group to cheer and not chuckle.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#24 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                      That is always the Democrat formula.

                      exhibit A:

                      ""He should talk to Big Bird!" he added"

                      Biden could stand there and make fart noises and belching sounds and Democrats would be enthralled by it.


                      • 8 votes
                      #24.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

                      We might be entertained for all of 20 seconds, but no, Biden has made some intelligent points and Ryan lost, big time.

                      • 6 votes
                      #24.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:27 PM EDT
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                      Wonder if this moron got the state he was in right this time.

                      And this is the guy who called Obama "clean" and "articulate".

                      A national embarrassment that's winding down to an end this Tuesday. Thank God.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#25 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:08 PM EDT

                      The choice of Biden showed me what kind of judgment Obama and his party has.Its like they wanted the dumbest white guy in america.

                      Sad is how none of the big media channels are reporting the truth about anything.

                      Its time for change,adult smart kind of change. Its scary to think people can be awake and look around them and support this president.

                      • 3 votes
                      #25.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

                      Wonder if this moron got the state he was in right this time.

                      It's almost as funny as Rmoney introducing Ryan as the next President of the United States.

                      OBAMA/BIDEN 1040

                      • 4 votes
                      #25.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

                      Do you know what you have when you see a pair of "magic underwear" on the floor? Mitt Romney with the @!$%# kicked out him!

                      • 5 votes
                      #25.3 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:13 AM EDT

                      TEE HEE.....ROMNEY IS A LIAR beyond liars.

                      • 5 votes
                      #25.4 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 5:03 AM EST
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