Obama plays up 'trust' in battleground Ohio

Speaking in Mentor, Ohio, President Barack Obama speaks about his Administration's accomplishments of the last four years. 

 

MENTOR, OH – Driving home his final campaign message, President Barack Obama painted himself as the trustworthy choice in the campaign versus his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney.

“When you elect a president, you don’t know what kinds of emergencies may happen. You don’t know what problems he or she may deal with. But you want to be able to trust your president,” he said to a crowd of about 4,000 at a high school in this Cleveland suburb.

The president’s advisers often talk about this election as coming down to “trust,” as does the candidate himself, but his language at Saturday’s rally was particularly explicit in terms of identifying himself as the most trustworthy candidate.

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The president was sure to toast the successes of the Mentor High School band and football team, a tribute to the homespun politics that could make the difference in battleground Ohio.

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“I also understand that this band just won the state championship? Best band in Ohio right here! In the house!” he exclaimed, referring to the Fighting Cardinals Marching Band, which entertained supporters (and reporters) with elaborate arrangements of Lady Gaga and AC/DC tunes before the event started.

“And the football team is in is first playoff game tonight! So the Cardinals got a lot going on right now,” Obama continued.

Related: Polls: Obama stays ahead in Ohio, deadlocked with Romney in Fla.

Romney spokesman Ryan Williams responded to Obama comments with a reference to the president's "voting is the best revenge" comment yesterday.

“With no record to run on and no vision for the future, President Obama is resorting to false, discredited attacks and a cynical closing message urging voters to choose ‘revenge.’ Mitt Romney wants to bring people together and he wants Americans to vote for love of country. He will deliver real change for a real recovery, creating 12 million new jobs with rising take-home pay and a better future for all Americans.”

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How can anyone trust Willard, who will tell any lie in order to get a vote, will pander to any audience, and has taken at least 15 positions on any given issue.

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#1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

Mitt wants to cut taxes for the rich - worth $5 trillion, Mitt is Bush on steroids.

Mitt wants to steal more from the middle class, making them poor and then showing them no respect (bottom 47%)

Mitt wants to outsource more jobs overseas - that's the way for corporations to make more money and GOP has always been with corporation and support corporate welfare for the rich.

Mitt is another war-monger, and wants to invade Syria when most Americans don't want that.

Mitt has angered our allies abroad, such as England

Mitt wants to go back to the bad old times of horses and bayonets

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No trust for Mitt

  • 34 votes
#1.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

you don’t know what kinds of emergencies may happen

But, but I thought you folks were all against Using Emrgencies/tragedies, errr Hurricanes to score political points.

Wonder if Ambassador Stevens or Tyrone Woods family thinks Obama is trustworthy

  • 30 votes
#1.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

Mitt's tax cut is going to worsen our federal deficit.

Mitt's oil drilling is going to worsen the environment.

Mitt's raid on Big Bird Compound is going to make big bird another endangered species - all we got left then will be vultures and baby vultures all over.

  • 26 votes
#1.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

True, the families of the 4 who got murdered in the terrorist attack Obama was warned about 1 month prior DO NOT TRUST Obama AT ALL!

  • 30 votes
#1.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

Wonder if Ambassador Stevens or Tyrone Woods family thinks Obama is trustworthy

The families of the slain have said let it be. You should honor their wishes and quit beating a dead horse trying to score political points.

  • 36 votes
#1.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

How can you trust the son of a presidential candidate that set the standard for tax releases...who won't live up to his own father's standards?

  • 34 votes
#1.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

Nah, TB, don't think I will.

Not all of the families are quite as happy as you think they are.

Seems some of them still want some answers.

So do a lot of us.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/charles-woods-navy-seal-obama_n_2039121.html

  • 18 votes
#1.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

Unfortunately for Mitt, when he uses the word trust verify gets in the way.

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#1.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

Haaahahhahahhhahahhahhahhahaaaa..."TRUST"....Haaahhahhahhahhahhahhahha

I trust Obama like ....ughhhh...like....errhhh....like...ummmm....can't do it!!!

"I'll have more flexibility after the election"

...

ROMNEY FTW!!!

...

  • 31 votes
#1.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

That's okay WCA. That great big L will fit nicely on your forehead in a few days.

  • 19 votes
#1.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

tonybeeerm said:

Wonder if Ambassador Stevens or Tyrone Woods family thinks Obama is trustworthy

The families of the slain have said let it be. You should honor their wishes and quit beating a dead horse trying to score political points.

Are you spinning lies again? The families said they are not going to politicize this but they do want answers. You must have been listening to the liberal version interview.

  • 23 votes
#1.11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

This has to be one of the funniest statements that has ever come from Obama's lips:

Obama painted himself as the trustworthy choice in the campaign versus his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney.

Let's take a look at the presidential executive orders to see how trustworthy you are Obama. Let's examine Benghazi and why it has been stonewalled since Sept 11th. Let's go back all the way to the inception of Obamacare. How trustworthy were you back then when you told the republicans they are taking a back seat and didn't allow them to offer input, or objections. Trustworthy????? You got to be kidding me... you are about the most untrustworthy person on the planet.

  • 32 votes
#1.13 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:50 PM EDT

For Obama, winning re-election depends on people forgetting that 4 years ago he actually promised us only 5.9% unemployment by 2012.
For Obama, winning re-election depends on the successful cover-up of how he mishandled the terrorist build-up and eventual attack in Benghazi.

For Obama, winning re-election depends on spinning the October job report rather than admit that unemployment actually increased during his 4 years.

For Obama, winning re-election depends on scaring women into thinking abortion rights will be taken away unless he himself is elected.

For Obama, winning re-election depends on tricking Ohio into thinking the government-subsidized "auto recovery" justifies the $16 trillion debt he saddled on America. And tricking Ohio into thinking the auto industry recovered, when it actually is being only temporarily propped up by government funding that will eventually be snatched away when China demands it. And hiding Jeep's intentions to ramp production in Italy/China, which WILL eventually cause a Jeep downsizing in Ohio.

For Obama, winning re-election depends on hiding the fact that the 32 coal-producing counties in Ohio will suffer under Obama's expensive and unproductive 'green initiatives'.

  • 32 votes
#1.14 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

I wonder if the people in New Jersey and New York are trusting Obama right now... He shows up for a photo op and promises the world to these people. I understand the temperatures are going to dip real low, food is running out, gasoline is sparse and patience is wearing thin... they are wondering where Obama is with all his promises... I can tell you where he is... he's on the campaign trail in Ohio and not doing his job... doing his job would get in the way of showing his mangled face to his slurpers.

  • 22 votes
#1.16 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

The families of the slain have said let it be. You should honor their wishes and quit beating a dead horse trying to score political points.

Political points?

Are you out of your mind?

When Obama had 101 campaign events to 60 different cities in the 102 days preceding 9/11/2012 - while taking 28 PDBs .... was Obama 3 1/2 times more concerned with national security or "scoring political points?"

When he denied requests for additional security - AND ACTUALLY REDUCED SECURITY, despite pleas .... was Obama more concerned with "scoring political points" to support he campaign rhetoric, the narrative that bin Laden is dead and al Qaeda is decimated because of his policies or was Obama concerned about reality - the real danger and concern for lives of Americans serving their country?

When Obama met with Panetta at 5:00 PM on 9/11/2012 while the attack was in progress, did he send help or go to bed, get up the next morning and LIE ABOUT THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICA SINCE 9/11/01?

Obama lied for 2 weeks - to the American people .... to the UN .... to the world and still refuses to answer questions.

And you don't think it has to do with "political points?"

You can't be this blind and wilfully ignorant.

And btw - This isn't a dead horse. This despicable deceit is worse than Watergate .... Fast and Furious and every other scandal combined. The liberal media can ignore it for now, but it isn't going away. If Obama should win on Tuesday, just wait .... this is worthy of impeachment if anything ever was.

  • 29 votes
#1.17 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

Will you ignorant Repugnicans PLEASE stop repeating this blatant lie about Benghazi? Here is the truth, if you care to read it from multiple reliable sources, rather than Faux News.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14865301-new-timeline-of-benghazi-attack-notes-quick-response-by-defenders?lite

  • 19 votes
#1.18 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

Updated for Noon EST on Saturday, November 3, 2012:

*** Spoiler alert: The overnight numbers from both RCP and FiveThirtyEight broke quickly, repeatedly, and decidedly in President Obama's favor.

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Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With only 60 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report that Obama holds increasing leads in eight of their 11 toss-up states while Romney clings to smaller and more static leads in the remaining three.

In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of Noon EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:

In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 5.4%, up from 5.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 94.2% chance of victory here, up by 0.9% overnight and by an astounding 8.5% since Tuesday.

In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.6%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.6% chance of victory here, up by 0.5% overnight and by a respectable 2.5% since Tuesday.

In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 3.5%, up from 3.0% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up 0.2% overnight and by 0.5% since Tuesday.

In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.9%, up from 2.6% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 83.8% chance of victory here, up by 3.1% overnight and by an astonishing 10.5% since Tuesday.

In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.7% chance of victory here, up by 1.5% overnight and by an astounding 9.0% since Tuesday.

In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.7% chance of victory here, down interestingly by 0.9% overnight but up overall by a substantial 6.8% since Tuesday.

In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.8%, up from 1.3% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.4% chance of victory here, up by 1.7% overnight and by an astonishing 10.1% since Tuesday.

In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 67.9% chance of victory here, up by 2.2% overnight and by an astronomical 12.5% since Tuesday.

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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 0.3%, down from 0.5% on Friday. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here (and not Romney's) to 67.0%, up 2.2% overnight. Nate Silver must be seeing something...

In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 1.4%, up from 1.2% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 54.8% chance of victory here, but this margin is actually down a stunning 9.9% from Tuesday.

It should be noted that RCP's average in Florida does appear to have been hyper-inflated by two recent outlier findings in favor of Romney, the first a 6.0% margin today from the unapologetically right-leaning Mason-Dixon Group with localized results for only the two cities of Tampa Bay (site of the 2012 RNC) and Miami (Marco Rubio stronghold), the second a 3.0% margin from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital, and an appreciably older finding by The Sunshine State News, an ultra-conservative website/blog which had Romney leading by 5.0% on October 24. Minus the influencesof these extreme outliers, Romney's true lead is likely well under 1.0% and quite possibly closer to that of dead heat. Ah, Florida....

In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 79.6% chance of victory here, down 0.3% overnight.

So...

In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Michigan at 3.5%, Ohio at 2.9%, and Nevada at 2.7%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.

However, should Obama fail to hold the strategic prize of Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:

Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but holds the remaining three states where he presently leads, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.

Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking only one state from among New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.

Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:

Path #3: Obama comes from behind at the wire to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.4%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, and Michigan at 3.5%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.

For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in both Colorado where Obama's lead rose Friday to 1.0% and in either Ohio (where Obama's lead today is 2.9%, up from Friday's 2.6%) or in Pennsylvania (where Romney's campaign suggested earlier this week that Obama's significant lead of 4.6% may be vulnerable). By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275 or 277, respectively.

Romney's newfound "Pennsylvania Strategy," however, may be a highly-marketed feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida.

In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 1.8%, Iowa at 2.0%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.

FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 83.7% (up markedly from Friday morning's 80.9%) and Romney 16.3% (down markedly from Friday's 19.1%).

FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 305 (up 6 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 233 (down 6 from Wednesday's 239).

Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.6% (up from Thursday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from Thursday's 48.6%).

With only 60 hours of campaigning left, and with Friday's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.

Mow the yard and stock up on popcorn today, people....Tuesday night is gonna be a whirlwind!

  • 9 votes
#1.19 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

how can we trust obama? the man paid millions to hide his college records . the only reason he would do that is there is incriminating evidence. why else? no other reason could make sense. if obama had nothing to hide we would be looking at those records today. mabe one liberal could explain why obama did that as obama himself never will? i'm waiting ... la la la la ho hum ho hum. thought so.

  • 25 votes
#1.20 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

bob - if the senate goes republican, you can count on impeachment and possibly worse. I hope he goes on trial for treason. To know that an attack is in process on our embassy and to do nothing is treason. Obama over-rode Standing General Orders for the protection of our sovereign property and countermanded those orders... all for what he believed was something to boost his lie that Al Qaeda was on the run. It's totally despicable and for him to push it back so the election passes with out notice... If this doesn't prove that the main stream media is one of his largest PAC's nothing does.

  • 20 votes
#1.21 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

singbiker -

Obama admitted in the debates, declared that he had stated the next day that it was a terrorist attack .... yet he and his administration had Rice lie on 5 different shows ... he lied at the UN .... he lied for 2 weeks - and now he refuses to answer questions.

Now ..... An unamed CIA source, huh?

From msnbc?

At least Obama can be thankful for a few ignorant tools and fools.

Hey Brian -

You are right.

What is never mentioned though, is the harm to national security.

The 9/11 Commission said the basic problem was that al Qaeda was at war with us and we ignored it ... didn't connect the dots.

Obama doesn't not connect the dots ... he willfully paints a deceit that jeopardizes the lives of countless Americans.

  • 27 votes
#1.22 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

Creating 12 million jobs is not a huge deal, comparably to the amount of jobs that will be added regardless of who is in office the next four years. This not a good reason to start over.

Trust has been a major issue with the Romney/Ryan ticket, Yes all candidates promise you the moon and stars, I am not talikng about that alone. I am talking about the blatant lies about themselves, and directly to our face, ie Making something sound right as rain, when it is really wrong as can be. This ahd been repeated many times in their bid for the white house.

I personally do not want those that lie right to my face with their finger on the button. This is a dangerous option. Those with children in the armed services need to know Romney has already irked China and Russia. Out of 21 countries only one wants to see Romney win,that is Pakistan. What does this tell you?

Romney has jeapordized his trust with the people,he has jeapordized his trust with parts of the world. His tax plan does not work mathematically, this is proven by tax experts that are unbiased. Romneys plan will raise taxes on the middle class, he says different,but never SHOWS different. Do your homework,you will see different.

Ryan lied directly to the public to make himself look better. To earn a nick name of Lyin Ryan and justifiably so, does not help his case in the trust category either.

  • 17 votes
#1.23 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

How can anyone trust this A**hole. He promised "hope and change" -- didn't deliver -- only caused a bipartisan mess because he refused to listen to his counselors and "had to do it his way". He promised to cut the deficit in half -- he increased it more than all other Presidents combined. He promised to get unemployment down to 5+ -- a total failure.. He promised not to run for a second term if he couldn't pull it through -- a big lie. He takes credit for "ending the war in Iraq" and sending the troops home -- lie, he moved the troops to Afghanistan. Now he has a spiritual adviser who says "all whites are going to HELL" His :$ for junkers was so asinine it cost us (taxpayers) $60,000.00 a car. Look at the cost of his failed "Green energy" -- don't research it -- just do it -- like thowing a dart at the NYSE chart. I could go on but now lets to move to his senile running mate.

Obama's continuing with Biden is, in a picture, Obama's incompetency. Biden is 70. He has twice said in a speech that he thinks we are at war with Iran (not Afghanistan). He doesn't know if he is in Florida or Ohio. I don't know he has any idea what this year it is. Does anyone, in this volatile age, want a senile as VP.

  • 24 votes
#1.24 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

Coral Taxi said:

Creating 12 million jobs is not a huge deal, comparably to the amount of jobs that will be added regardless of who is in office the next four years. This not a good reason to start over.

Trust has been a major issue with the Romney/Ryan ticket, Yes all candidates promise you the moon and stars, I am not talikng about that alone. I am talking about the blatant lies about themselves, and directly to our face, ie Making something sound right as rain, when it is really wrong as can be. This ahd been repeated many times in their bid for the white house.

This has been a liberal mantra ever since Romney was nominated. Obama has stated this over and over again and has painted Romney in a negative light... in fact, he does this every chance he gets. Instead of proving what Obama did during his 4 years in office, he chooses to attack Romney from every angle. What is Obama afraid of? If a candidate is worthy of office, he needs to support his cause... not make statements that disparage the other candidate. Romney said it best during the last debate: "Attacking Romney is not an agenda!" The ONLY two things we get out of Obama is... I killed Bin Laden and GM is alive.... what a mandate! Obama is a joke.

  • 21 votes
#1.25 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

@brianb;

Obama has stated this over and over again and has painted Romney in a negative light...

Umm Romney has painted himself in a badlight.Obama is just hammering the nails in the rest of the way . My opinion was formed by Romney and Ryan themselves,not by Obama or others.

I can back up anything I have said with more than my opinion sir. What you call "attacks" I call exposing someone for whom they really are.

  • 12 votes
#1.26 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

Hey, Ticked Off! I notice that your posts have gotten a bunch shorter; I assume you took my advice, dude! "Brevity is the soul of wit."- Benjamin Franklin. No charge, homie- glad to help a brother out. That's just how we Progressives are.

I noticed that in the last few days, you've been closing your little flashes of brilliance with "Romney FTW!" I think you'd better keep that quiet, man, at least until after his concession speech; I don't think he wants all the rest of us Commies, Wobblies and n*****-lovers to know that his new slogan is "Romney- F*** The Workers!

Or was that supposed to mean, "Romney- Feed The Wombats!" Or could it have been, "Romney- Finish That Whiskey!" (No, guess not- that's no slogan for a LDS).

Or is that just your way of announcing to the world at large that you're as classless as you are clueless?

All Hail G. Marx and Lennon!

  • 13 votes
#1.27 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

Here's what the non partisan Congressional Research Service has to say about cutting taxes to increase income. (Summary below)

Throughout the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it is 35%. Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the 1970s; today it is 15%. The real GDP growth rate averaged 4.2% and real per capita GDP increased annually by 2.4% in the 1950s. In the 2000s, the average real GDP growth rate was 1.7% and real per capita GDP increased annually by less than 1%.

There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth. However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution.

The share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009 recession. The evidence does not suggest necessarily a relationship between tax policy with regard to the top tax rates and the size of the economic pie, but there may be a relationship to how the economic pie is sliced.

Since Romney's whole platform is refuted by these findings, Senator Mitch McConnell (R) blocked the release of the Report. It surfaced again in the Nov 1 2012 New York Times.

  • 10 votes
#1.28 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

Ask those four dead guys in Benghazi if they trust Obama.

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#1.29 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

Obama's arrogance knows no bounds.

Trust him? Sure- about as far as I can throw him.

Remember his handling of the BP oil spill? I do. Even the TreeHouse Kids complained about that- in their secret treehouse, of course; among themselves; never courageous enough to do it publicly among those of a differing political view. Oddly, if they had, they might be taken more seriously.

Remember his reaction to rising gas prices? He went with his kneejerk- the reason prices were lower when he took office was because of the financial crisis. He expects us to forget the steep decline before that- when Bush signed an executive order opening new FEDERAL lands for exploration- therefore signaling the market that there would be an increase in supply.

Remember his handling of the Green Revolution? All those poor Iranians, pleading for our support- simple verbal support, and a demand for a U.N resolution would have given them hope, (which is supposed to be Obama's only selling point).

Remember his handling of Joplin? He finally did go there- but only at his convenience, AFTER his "long arranged" trip to Ireland. Who can forget the pictures of him quaffing in an Irish pub, as folks pored over the ruins, seeking any belongings? Well, liberals can. The rest of us?

Remember his handling of the debt ceiling crisis? Bob Woodward does- so, if you've forgotten, I suggest you get a copy of his book, so you can understand just exactly how inept, incompetent, and narcissistic Obama is- then, ask yourself how anybody could ever "hope" he would come to any resolution that did not involve a fiscal cliff? Bonus question- how could he not figure out that calling Boehner's bluff is a loser's game?

There are some real journalists left whose trust in Obama was finally shattered when he blandly, bald facedly, lied to them about Benghazi. If you can't trust the Commander in Chief to tell the truth when Americans are killed- why should you trust him to tell you if the sun is shining?

Also, let's have a little look at what I like to call "a tale of two hurricanes"- one, close to the convention- the other, close to the election. Let's see- which one did he hotfoot it to see for himself? It sure wasn't the one where people got flooded out of their homes because his administration cancelled a levee project-whatever happened to his great love for infrastructure?

And- what do Hurricane Sandy and Benghazi have in common? Well, Vegas, baby! Cause, that's where Obama jetted off to after each- ironic, is it not?

Speaking of Sandy- finally made it back to Jersey late Thursday night, and, since I have a natural gas generator, my house was full of storm refugees. As some parts of the state get their power back, people are leaving, so there's a little window of quiet here. Early voting started here today as a result of the storm- since my section of townis always the last to get restored, I'm voting tomorrow.

Anybody wonder for whom?

  • 24 votes
#1.30 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

No kidding Al. How can Romney "lead" anybody when nobody knows where he stands? Are we supposed to guess which of Romney's positions are "true"? Personally, I'm convinced he wants to eliminate FEMA, Planned Parenthood, Abortion rights, Gay rights, Voting rights, Medicare, Social Security, Big Bird ... and 47% of us.

  • 15 votes
#1.31 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

@john;

Ask those four dead guys in Benghazi if they trust Obama

You are kidding yourself in so many ways that you have no clue. The generals in the area and the SOD, made the call not to go in, not Obama. Do you not realize the blood bath that could of ensued if they sent our guys in guns ablazin into the unkown. Do you not realize that the players in the attacks look just like civilians, we could have ended up killing those that helped us earlier. But you John being the expert on the protocalls of these situations would of handled it differently right?

Obama cares about his people abroad deeply to say different is ignorant.I have followed Obama and his actions in the ME religously, if you had done the same you would not be spewing the B.S about him that you are now.

@ no;

Anybody wonder for whom?

Nixon,maybe?lol

What you have shown on your list are in your opinion are errors by Obama not lies. This reminds me of a saying I have for you and others that share your opinion.

Obam did not lie,what Obama did was try.

The rubber has finally hit the road,do not throw yourself into reverse now sir. You are about to vote on the past, not the future, think about this before you make that final decision.

  • 12 votes
#1.32 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

You're ignorant Coral -- he did NOTHING but hide the truth behind a video -- and for you people that said he said it was a terrorist act -- NO HE DID NOT -- he said America will not stand for "acts of terror" then willfully blamed it on a video. Don't you people EVEN watch the news it is on CAMERA for all to see including at the UN. You may buy that like a bunch of lapdogs (which is what the lame stream media is counting on -- wow you deliver!) that you are but real THINKING Americans see and seek out the truth -- no matter how much it hurts!

  • 15 votes
#1.33 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

Coral Taxi said:

@brianb;

Obama has stated this over and over again and has painted Romney in a negative light...

Umm Romney has painted himself in a badlight.Obama is just hammering the nails in the rest of the way . My opinion was formed by Romney and Ryan themselves,not by Obama or others.

I can back up anything I have said with more than my opinion sir. What you call "attacks" I call exposing someone for whom they really are.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't care what sources you use to back up your claims... most of them are liberal in nature and that's the one thing liberals share... a way to slam Romney. You practice Alynski tactics with precision... Those of us on the right know this... and that's why we laugh at you... because you really feel you are pulling one over on us... Hate to pop your bubble, but you aren't.

The ONLY thing liberals have is negativity. They don't have anything positive on Obama... and therein lies your problem. You have to resort to attacking Romney or you'd have NOTHING... any port in a storm...

Why do you think Romney popped in the polls after the first debate? People were expecting to meet the Romney that Obama has been portraying but instead were wonderfully surprised to meet the real Romney... thereby causing Obama to lose serious credibility.

  • 9 votes
#1.34 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

@dotties

he did NOTHING but hide the truth behind a video

Not one mention of a video in the eloquently delivered Rose garden speech. In his speech to the U,N on bhengazi, he says this film has caused an uproar in the ME. Not once in either speech does he blame the attacks directly on the film. As far as Rice you do not show your cards to terrorist. You do not put the bad guys on the run by letting them know what you know. They stayed put, and were caught at their offices.

The chaos over the film did give the Islamist an opportunity to attack. More than likely the Imams and the Islamist used this to get them stirred up then attacked. Not coincidence by any means.

@brianb;

Way to say so much and nothing at all. Why not challenge some of what I say instead of a diatribe of how I said it.lol I am showing truth, not trying to fool anyone sir.

  • 11 votes
#1.35 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

The House of Representatives will be essentially the same as now after the election, with Republicans in control with about 240 seats.

This means that a vote for Obama is a vote for several more years of 'GRIDLOCK', since Obama has demonstrated that he is either unwilling or unable to compromise with the Republicans.

Unlike Reagan and Clinton, who worked closely with an opposing Congress to get lots of good things done, Obama has made only one attempt to meet with the Republicans (on the Debt crisis), and even then he reneged on the 'deal' he made with Boehner.

With Romney as President, we will at least have some cooperation between the White House and Congress, and avoid more GRIDLOCK.

  • 19 votes
#1.36 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

Coral Taxi said: The generals in the area and the SOD, made the call not to go in

This is the line someone is feeding you. Do you know anything about the military? Anything at all? Well it appears your sources know nothing too.

Do you realize how many contingency plans they have in effect? Do you know the military trains for this specific action? Do you know that a C-130 Hercules could have shattered the attack in about 3 sweeps? There was a Hercules on station less than an hour away. Targets were painted and could have been hit. Someone other than the generals would have had to place that order... Standing General Orders cannot be broken by a line general... only the CIC can break those orders...

  • 8 votes
#1.37 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

Coral Taxi said:

@brianb;

Way to say so much and nothing at all. Why not challenge some of what I say instead of a diatribe of how I said it.lol I am showing truth, not trying to fool anyone sir.

I rest my case. This is line one and two of Alynski's rules for radicals...

  • 4 votes
#1.38 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

How do we trust someone who destroyed all administrative documents as Governor, substituted a summary statement from his accountant instead of tax return hard copies that were requested...........And worst of all, displays his patriotism by keeping nearly half on his vast fortune stashed in off shore accounts to avoid paying taxes in America..............No only should Romney not be qualified for president, he should be tried for tax evasion.

  • 10 votes
#1.39 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

Is it just me?

When reading Ryan Williams' positively gushing praise of Citizen Romney in the last paragraph, I felt like a resident of Hooterville listening to a long-winded speech by Oliver Wendell Douglas, while a fife and drum rendition of the traditional patriotic American song "Yankee Doodle" played in the background.

Yet, instead of bringing a tear to my eye, it only brought a rise of bile to my throat.

Anyone else have the same experience?

  • 4 votes
#1.40 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

I wonder if all these people screaming about what happened to four Americans in Benghazi screamed as loudly about Bush ignoring intelligence warnings about 911, or his sacrificing of almost 5000 more American lives looking for mythical WMDs, or the 120,000 dead Iraqis who had nothing whatsoever to do with 911 ?.............Compassionate conservatives ? My behind !!!

  • 10 votes
#1.41 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

We "trusted" Obama four years ago and we got screwed over. Many times. He has a lot of gaul to talk about trust. He's okay with taking "In God We Trust" off our currency. And we should trust him, OBAMA, more than God? Talk about delusions of grandure!

  • 16 votes
#1.42 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

Gee, Aggie, didn't you know that Oblameo thinks he IS God? Consequently, look at the mess we are still mired in up to the tops of the wheelwells. A vote for Oblameo is a vote for more of the sameo!

Romney/Ryan 2012 REAL Hope and CHANGE for the BETTER!

  • 14 votes
#1.43 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

Ellis Baumgarner said:

I wonder if all these people screaming about what happened to four Americans in Benghazi screamed as loudly about Bush ignoring intelligence warnings about 911, or his sacrificing of almost 5000 more American lives looking for mythical WMDs, or the 120,000 dead Iraqis who had nothing whatsoever to do with 911 ?.............Compassionate conservatives ? My behind !!!

Another disillusioned liberal trying to dig up past arguments that have been hashed to death. Tell me Ellis - when is it OK for any American to die while being attacked? Is this your reasoning for letting Obama slide on Benghazi? I know... he's Obama the mighty... he can do nothing wrong... the past is no argument for what a president can or cannot do... take your garbage and try to feed it to other liberals.

  • 14 votes
#1.44 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

no jo: do you NEVER get tired of lying about your betters? No one EVER complained about our President at the cool kid's table, you know, that table that you NEVER get invited to sit at?

Still bothers you, being left out that way.

But, I now get your FASCINATION and love for Romney. Two liars in a pod, right no jo?

  • 9 votes
#1.45 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

Obama seems to think we should be honored to have him as president even after his lies and divisive actions and he is "owed" re-election. Gov. Romney feels it would be an honor to be elected. BIG difference.

  • 16 votes
#1.46 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

You have that exactly backward, J.C. It is Romney and Queen Ann who have made clear that the Presidency is owed to them.

Remember Queen Ann, "it's our turn".

  • 11 votes
#1.47 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:10 PM EDT

Brian.

My point was, it is hypocritical to whine about the tragic loss of 4 lives when you supported the loss of thousands of lives under republican rule.....at least be consistent...........And if you haven't heard, Hillary accepted responsibility for what happened in Benghazi

What would you have done with the report the compound was under attack by about 150 militants, would the 16 soldier detail who had been stationed there have made a difference, or would they just have added to the number of dead ?...........Armchair critics have never solved a problem...........

Better a liberal than American Taliban insurgent.

  • 7 votes
#1.48 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

Boy, you rwnj's have really gone crazy now that it looks like all the wasted money from billionaires and all the flip-flop lying your candidates have been doing is going down the drain. You tea party nuts have been the "divices actions" at work until now. I hope the republicans that are in congress next year will work with our President who has earned the re-election.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

Ouch! Did you hear, yesterday, 30,000 at Romney's rally and a meager 2800 (5 fold less than 2008) for Obama.

Guess we might have different poll numbers than those based on 2008...

HERE WE GO ROMNEY/RYAN, we are going to win by a length...a length for the USofA~!!!!!!

  • 13 votes
#1.50 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Haven't we heard "trust me" in nearly every scary movie?

Romney/Ryan 2012

  • 14 votes
#1.51 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

IT... Where did he find that many to truck in??? I believe Romney is the one that uses "trust me"on his income taxes, his health care plan, his cutting tax loop holes, etc.

  • 1 vote
#1.52 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

@brian;

I have checked your Alinsky's "rules for radicals", and this is not me sir. I do not lie and I always play nice. I might throw a jab or two once in awhile,but it is always in the spirit of the debate,never personal attacks. Never nasty.

when two evenly matched forces go head-to-head outside of a fairy tale, the side that tries to play nice usually ends up with its head in a box. So, don't lie or become an evil person like Alinsky,

Because I ask you for rebuttal over critiscism of my approach, this means I am evil or lying? I abide by the COH sir. I am tested once in awhile, but usually keep it cool.

Is this your reasoning for letting Obama slide on Benghazi?

I show you how this was not Obamas call alone, you ignore it, do not answer to it,then attack someone else on it. WOW. Way to keep the blinders on sir.

  • 6 votes
#1.53 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

All Barry-0's Campaign stops are just mini-concerts now....the shrinking crowds are coming out to see Bruce or bon jovi or Katy Perry or some other fawning for 0bama celeb,....Revenge is the 0bama battle cry now...

Trust him ??....Not even with YOUR life....

You gotta see some of the articles on MSN now that you can't comment on....

"Women voters less enthusiastic on Obama this time"

http://t.news.msn.com/politics/women-voters-less-enthusiastic-on-obama-this-time

"Poll: Older voters prefer Romney on healthcare, Medicare"

http://t.news.msn.com/politics/poll-older-voters-prefer-romney-on-healthcare-medicare

No wonder NBCNews divorced them...INFIDELITY TO DEAR LEADER

  • 8 votes
#1.54 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:39 PM EDT

@brian;

Do you know that a C-130 Hercules could have shattered the attack in about 3 sweeps?

You are funny sir, so we sic a c- 130 on Bhengazi hours after or even during an attack.lol 3 sweeps??!!! lol Yes we would have shattered the attack and a whole innocent city sir.lol

There was a Hercules on station less than an hour away. Targets were painted and could have been hit. Someone other than the generals would have had to place that order... Standing General Orders cannot be broken by a line general... only the CIC can break those orders...

They made the call sir. Period. If you mean that targets were painted with a pen laser on some guys with rpgs or rocket launchers by some guy on a roof then yes o.k. If you mean that targets were painted by our armed forces then prove it. That I believe is false information .

  • 4 votes
#1.55 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:29 PM EDT

Wood:

Truck In? No, that was 2008. Wrong campaign.

Romney/Ryan for a STRONG AMERICA

  • 8 votes
#1.56 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

All economic indicators show strong and steady increases from their depressed state in 2008 and 2009. These increases represent a recovery that will last.

  1. Real GDP increased in the 3rd QTR by 2.0%, from 1.2% gains in 2nd QTR of 2012 - UP
  2. M2 Money Supply in Sept 2012 was 10126.9 Billion, from 7855.0 Billion in Nov. 2009 - UP
  3. CPI Consumer Price Index in Sept 2012 - 231.407, from 211.143 in Jan 2009 - UP
  4. Producer Price Index -http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=WP_ppibrief - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
  5. Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 72.2, from 68.4 in September. - UP
  6. The Present Situation Index increased to 56.2 from 48.7. - UP
  7. The Expectations Index rose to 82.9 from 81.5 last month. – UP
  8. Current Employment Statistics - http://www.bls.gov/opub/ee/2012/ces/ces_new.htm - UP
  9. US Retail and Food Services Sales is at a current level of 412.94B, from 338.84B in January of 2009. – UP
  10. US Housing Starts is at a current level of 872K, from 490K in January of 2009. - UP
  11. Manufacturing & Trade Inventory & Sales - http://www.esa.doc.gov/economic-indicators/economic-indicators-4 - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
  12. S&P 500 Index - From 01/02/09 to Present gained 51.77% - UP

So, there's an old saying that Mr. Romney needs to come to undersand, "If it ain't broken, don't try to fix it."

  • 6 votes
#1.57 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

@doublejeopardy;

Yes, this is the long version of my "the rubber has finally hit the road" statement.lol

Forward is forward no matter what the pace.

  • 4 votes
#1.58 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

fiefly: Get your "facts" straight!

For Obama, winning re-election depends on hiding the fact that the 32 coal-producing counties in Ohio will suffer under Obama's expensive and unproductive 'green initiatives'.

Coal is currently mined in 16 Ohio counties and has been mined in 32 total counties since mining began in the early 19th century. [Ohio Coal Development Office - OCDO]

If you're that far off on that "fact", how are you doing on all the other stuff?? Like. . .

And hiding Jeep's intentions to ramp production in Italy/China, which WILL eventually cause a Jeep downsizing in Ohio.

Bull Cookies!

  • 5 votes
#1.59 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

Obama is really pursuing the stupid vote. Only morons and fools trust Obama.

  • 7 votes
#1.60 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

"Trust" from this administration ?

Broken promises:

Transparency:

  1. Corn-husker kickback, Louisiana Purchase and back room wheeling and dealing with Health Care institutions on the Mandated Universal Health Care Reform legislation.
  2. "Fast and Furious" NON-disclosure.
  3. Benghazi attack NON-disclosure.

Leaks:

  1. Disclosed details of the Navy SEAL team that killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and collaborating sensitive information with Bollywood to produce a movie of the attack.
  2. Disclosed U.S. cyber warfare against Iran' nuclear facility.
  3. Disclosed procedures and "hit list" for targeting militants for drone attacks.
  4. Disclosed existence of a double agent who penetrated a militant group in Yemen.
  5. Disclosed airfield to be used by Israel for possible Iran nuclear facility attack.
  6. Yep, Mr. Obama's administration is looking out for the safety of our brave men and women in uniform and International allies and contacts.

Now, Mr. Obama is looking to get people to vote for him again for his "TRUST" ? Progressives must love his rhetoric and FAILED domestic and International policies.

  • 5 votes
#1.61 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

With Bail out number 3 in full swing, and the banks getting more Free money, Obama is thinkking his odds of winning might just pay off. After all Americans are to stupid to look up stuff on there own and buy the main stream media hook line and sinker !

Benghazi and Youtubegate, Obama at the UN stump talking about our Freedom of speech needs limits so we don't offend ??

Fast and Furious , Obama at the stump talking with Mexico's President, saying out 2nd amendment rights need to be taken...

Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money , Give me your Freedoms !

Help him finish taking what he started, Help him Finish America !

  • 4 votes
#1.62 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

You know, you guys have harped on Bengazi quite long enough. If you would change the channel and watch something besides Fox news, you would find that the intelligence community has come out and said that the President did NOT tell anyone to stand down. We are sick of you repeating the same old lies over and over. And think about this.... Bush also had warnings of a terrorist attack before 9/11 and we were attacked on 3 fronts by terrorists right here on our own soil! And Bush didn't protect us. And thousands of Americans died. But when we were attacked, Americans pulled together and blamed the folks who were ultimately responsible for the deaths... the terrorists! We are in a war on terror and probably will be forever thanks to George Bush making our nation LESS SAFE with his war-mongering antics and lies. The rest of the world endorses Obama for President because they believe he believes in peace and diplomacy. Romney is a loud mouth, insulting, lying human being. He will be like Bush... making us less safe and making the world hate us again. Get real people!!!

Forget your "real" biases and vote for the President who will continue to take us forward. President Obama has done a lot IN SPITE OF the Republican obstructionism at every turn. When he took office, the entire world economy was on the brink of collapse with American leading the way. He STOPPED this from happening... give him credit where credit is due! We were on the brink of a total financial collapse and were losing jobs at the rate of 700,000 - 800,000 per month. The Democrats had control of congress for a total of 5 months (most of that time Congress was not even in session). So for most of his time as President, he has had to deal with Republicans who would do absolutely NOTHING for this country if it meant it would make the President look good.

And if you want to call someone a liar, look at Mitt Romney. He tells the people of Ohio that auto manufacturers are closing down production in Ohio and moving to China. Even AFTER the CEO's of GM and Chrysler came out and PUBLICLY stated this was a lie, Mitt Romney continues to spread the lie in an effort to gain votes. He will say ANYTHING and I do mean ANYTHING to get votes. He is a compulsive and repulsive liar and I for one cannot wait until November 6th when we do not have to look at that stupid smirk on his face ever again!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.63 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:44 AM EST

LOL! So now the New Romney says Trust me I am Lying???

We cannot Trust Romney to do anything he says because he never says anything he truly stands for.

Except maybe tax cuts for the wealthy and allowing more jobs to be shipped over seas or deregulating wall street.

..

Obama does what he says ( unless the republicans block him of course )

We can Trust Obama and Biden to stand up for all the people not just some of them.

Vote Obama/Biden 2012!

  • 1 vote
#1.64 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:43 AM EST

I trust Obama!!!!!!!!

I trust him to keep screwing things up, like he's been doing for 4 years. I am relieved that nothing happened to you libs, like Pigotry and Tony beeeeeerm, but where is Fishy Red Head? What will we do without all the baloney, after Obama loses? Obama says, b b b b b but who do you trust? Well, not you, Mr. President.

  • 4 votes
#1.65 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 6:14 AM EST

@engbers;

I trust him to keep screwing things up, like he's been doing for 4 years. I am relieved that nothing happened to you libs,

Most are not saying it has been a bed of roses the last four years, or defending them in a way as to show major success. Things are better today than four years ago. The climate of the economy is changing for the better as we speak.The point I and others are making is why stop now?

What I defend mostly about Obama is when people wrongly lay blame on him for things that are not his fault or he had not control over. The theme is Forward, not the last few years have been great vote for me.lol

Those of you wishing to turn back the clock(an analogy I used way before Biden's "zing") will vote on Romney. Those of you wishing to continue to move forward will vote Obama. Even though they were bumpy at the beginning, I am sticking with familiar roads that seem to be getting smoother by the mile.

Please do not vote on the past. Please vote on the future.

"Dont go chasing waterfalls".

  • 2 votes
#1.66 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:05 AM EST

Zathrose "Obama is really pursuing the stupid vote. Only morons and fools trust Obama."

According to the exit polls by the N Y Times, high school dropouts favored Obama by 63% to 35% for McCain in 2008, so it appears that you are correct.

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:46 AM EST

Hillary accepted "responsibility" for what happened in Benghazi? What exactly does that mean? Will she resign, pay the families of the slain out of her own pocket, what? How can anyone accept responsibility when there are 'no penalties", or costs to those who have accepted responsibility?

    #1.68 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:48 AM EST

    AMAZING: Woke up this a.m. to find that no-one is arguing with the facts I put forth @1.24. Such being the case how can anyone vote for Obama? He looks nice and runs all the time but that doesn't qualify him for s**t. We need a President -- not a jogger.

      #1.69 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:15 AM EST

      He promised to cut the deficit in half -- he increased it more than all other Presidents combined.

      Well 25% for what he had to deal with is not bad.

      "This year’s deficit will be three-quarters as large as the deficit in 2009 when measured relative to the size of the economy," the report noted.

      So the deficit is shrinking, but it’s nowhere near half the level from 2009.

      Obama owns this,what you need to look at is that we shaved over 207 billion off last year. This is moving forward. ie It is shrinking not growing. Not to mention the deficit was already at 1.3 trillion annually when Obama took office with a projected growth rate of 8 trillion over the next decade already.

      Obamas response;

      "Well, we're not there because this recession turned out to be a lot deeper than any of us realized," he said. "Everybody who is out there back in 2009, if you look back at what their estimates were in terms of how many jobs had been lost, how bad the economy had contracted when I took office, everybody underestimated it. …"

      Many presidents views change when they learn the realities after entering office, Obama is not the first and surely will not be the last president to fall into this trap.

      His :$ for junkers was so asinine it cost us (taxpayers) $60,000.00 a car.

      Where do you get your "facts" sir?lol

      Not true the true numbers are $5,000 to $24,000 per car. This was an attempt to get old polluters off the road and stimulate the economy a bit. This was thinking out of the box. I would call this a break even experiment .

      He takes credit for "ending the war in Iraq" and sending the troops home -- lie, he moved the troops to Afghanistan. Now

      Umm the Iraq war is over. We are drawing down in Afghanistan. The surge was necessary to back up troops already there.

        #1.70 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:47 AM EST

        @GIL;

        OH,yeh the Biden thing

        .Biden is 70. He has twice said in a speech that he thinks we are at war with Iran (not Afghanistan). He doesn't know if he is in Florida or Ohio. I don't know he has any idea what this year it is. Does anyone, in this volatile age, want a senile as VP.

        Why dont you check out the debate against Ryan. Biden was shooting out so many facts an figures Ryans head was spinning. I could only pray to be as sharp as he is at 70, he doesnt seem 70 to me more like in his 50s. Biden is that guy that fits in anywhere because he is sincere, and truly cares more about the others around him than himself. You are funny busting on Biden when I show some of your numbers are suspect.

        Oh and he does not lie about himself to make himself look better either. Unlike some other VP candidate I know of.

          #1.71 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 11:12 AM EST
          Reply

          Mitt has changed his positions on everything...no trust

          Mitt is a cameleon, Mitt is no Camelot.

          No respect for Rodney Dangerfield, no trust for Mitt the Flip-flopper.

          • 16 votes
          Reply#2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

          Mitt has changed his positions on everything..

          And just how many times has Mitt changed his position, Jimmy?

          wait for it................................

          More times than Marilyn Chambers in a porn flick.

          • 17 votes
          #2.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

          Running for President

          The very first flip-flop that Obama committed since running for President is actually running for the office in 2008. Obama said in 2004 that he would not run for President in the next election. Based on what has happened in the last 3 years, this is one promise that most Americans would likely prefer he had kept.

          Taxes & Spending

          Adding Debt & Raising the Debt Ceiling

          As a Senator, Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, and said adding 4 trillion in was "unpatriotic". As President, he insisted the debt ceiling be raised and has added substantially more than 4 trillion to the debt.

          Bush Tax Cuts

          In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. In 2010, he extended those cuts.

          Capital Gains Taxes

          In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would raise taxes on capital gains and dividends for higher-income taxpayers. He has not done so.

          Raising Taxes

          In 2008, Obama pledged that, "no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. My opponent can't make that pledge." However, he has raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income).

          Senior Income Tax

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year". He has not done so.

          PAYGO

          Shortlyafter entering office, Obama signed PAYGO legislation which demanded that all expenditures be paid for unless they are part of an emergency. Democrats in Congress started using the loophole to bypass the legislation almost immediately. Obama touted that a previous extension of unemployment benefits was fully paid for, but later blasted Republicans for not continuing to extend those benefits without paying for them.

          Spending Freezes

          In 2008, Obama derided spending freezes as "using a hatchet where you need a scalpel" and "unfair burden-sharing". He said that, although it's "proposed periodically", a spending freeze "doesn't happen". In 2010, Obama announced support for a three-year federal spending freeze on discretionary spending not related to national security.

          Earmarks

          In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks "to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994″. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.

          Competitive Bidding on Earmarks

          In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would "ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid". He has not done so.

          Tax Credits for Child Care

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would increase the tax credits for child care and dependent care, and make such credits refundable. He has not done so.

          Killing NASA Program

          "In August 2008, Senator Obama announced, as The Washington Post noted, "a detailed comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA".

          But, as The Washington Post reported in March 2010, President Obama later shattered the dreams of the NASA community with a decision "to kill NASA's Constellation program, crafted during the Bush administration with an ambitious goal of putting astronauts back on the moon by 2020."

          Foreign Policy

          Iraq Timetable

          Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and bring the all the troops home in 2009. He later changed his tune to say the withdrawal depends on conditions on the grounds and troops remained in Iraq past 2009.

          Iraq Surge

          Obama originally opposed the Iraq surge and claimed that extra troops would not do anything to quell sectarian violence. However, after the surge was clearly successful, Obama suggested that everyone knew the surge would decrease violence in Iraq.

          Military Action without Congressional Approval

          "President Obama has shown a striking lack of consistency with regard to the question of Congressional authorisation and the use of force. In a 2007 interview with The Boston Globe, then Senator Obama declared:

          "The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action."

          However, as President in March 2011, Barack Obama authorized military action against the Libyan regime without consulting Congress, a decision which drew heavy fire on Capitol Hill."

          Dropping Missile Defenses in Poland to appease Russia

          "In his Prague speech in April 2009, President Obama pledged to move forward with the Bush-era plans for Third Site missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic…

          Just six months later however, the Obama administration surrendered to Russian demands, and dramatically dropped plans for Third Site."

          There has been speculation that Obama's recent Hot-Mic comments to Russia's president about flexibility after the election signal further concessions in this area.

          Israel

          While giving a speech in front of the Pro-Israel group AIPAC in 2008, Obama proclaimed that Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel. However, a few days later his advisers were clarifying that he no longer believes that and the division of Jerusalem is actually an issue to be addressed in negotiations.

          Obama repeated the same strategy in 2012 when he promised to "have Israel's back" on Iran in his 2012 AIPAC speech and backtracked a few days later.

          Letting Sudan off the hook for the Darfur genocide

          "In 2004, Senator Obama was a prominent supporter of a "humanitarian intervention" to halt state-sponsored mass killing in Darfur, declaring in a speech that 'we cannot, in good conscience, stand by and let the genocide continue.' He advocated tough UN sanctions against the brutal regime of Omar Hassan al-Bashir, which "should freeze the assets of the Sudanese government, its leaders and business affiliates; outlaw arms sales and transfers to Sudan; and prohibit the purchase of Chinese oil."

          However, as president, Obama dramatically changed his tune, extending the hand of friendship to Bashir, despite the fact the Sudanese government and its proxy Janjaweed Arab militias had butchered hundreds of thousands of people".

          Abandoning Mubarak in Egypt after calling him a "stalwart ally"

          "Big picture foreign policy strategy has not been a forté of this administration, as demonstrated by its inconsistent policy on Egypt and the Middle East. In an interview with the BBC's Justin Webb in June 2009, when asked if he viewed President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler, President Obama declared:

          No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven't met him; I've spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally, in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region, but he has never resorted to unnecessary demagoguing of the issue and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability and good in the region.

          20 months later, the White House emphatically called for Mubarak to go".

          Cuba Embargo

          Obama opposed the embargo in 2004, but later supported it when speaking in front of a Cuban audience during his run for president. It is still in place today.

          Recognizing Armenian Genocide

          In 2008, Obama said he would recognize the Armenian Genocide once he is president. He has not done so.

          Meeting with Iran Without Preconditions

          Obama tried to distance himself from the position that he would meet with Iran without preconditions during the 2008 campaign by claiming there would be "preparations", before returning to his original position.

          Iran Threat

          Obama has never had a consistent position on Iran, but one particular shift over a two day period in 2008 is the greatest example of Obama's waffling on the issue. On one day Obama suggested that Iran does not "pose a serious threat to us", but the very next day he was describing Iran as a "grave threat".

          Designating Revolutionary Guard as a Terrorist Group

          In September 2007, Obama voted against the Kyl-Lieberman bill which would designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization. Obama attacked Hillary Clinton for voting for the bill, but later claimed that he supported labeling the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. Obama explained his vote against the bill using a variety of different reasons at different times.

          NAFTA

          During the 2008 campaign Obama was very critical of NAFTA, but later referred to his own rhetoric as "overheated and amplified."

          Meeting with Chavez

          While running for office, Obama stated that he would meet with Hugo Chavez and discuss his support for FARC on one day and then said governments supporting FARC should be isolated the next.

          Annual "State of the World" Address

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "give an annual State of the World address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy". He has never given any such address.

          Promised to Improve America's Image

          A key foreign policy theme of the Obama presidential election campaign was the notion that President Bush had damaged America's image on the world stage, with his supposedly 'cowboy' policies. In the words of a campaign document, "Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore America's standing in the world by providing a new American leadership to meet the challenges of a new century".

          As President, however, Obama has done exactly the opposite, insulting key allies such as Great Britain, Israel and Poland, projecting weak leadership, and undermining the standing of the United States as the world's only superpower. As I've noted before:

          "No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to America's enemies. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring America's "standing" in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washington's closest friends."

          Energy

          Gas Prices

          Obama, along with many other leading Democrats, blamed George W. Bush for high gas prices when he was President. Yet now that prices have reached near record highs under his administration, Obama is claiming that he has no control of those prices. Furthermore, Obama has previously said he supports a gradual shift to higher gas prices, but now laughs off the claim that he is rooting for higher prices to reduce dependency.

          Cap and Trade

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "set a hard cap on all carbon emissions at a level that scientists say is necessary to curb global warming – an 80% reduction by 2050″. No cap and trade legislation has been passed.

          Selling Oil from Strategic Reserve

          In July 2007, Obama rejected selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which he said should be "reserved for a genuine emergency." A month later, Obama said, "We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks", even though gas prices were higher in July 2007 than in August 2007.

          Keystone XL

          Obama touted the possibility of a pipeline during his 2008 campaign, but rejected rapid approval of the Keystone XL pipeline this year.

          Nuclear Power

          Obama told a group of Democratic Governors in June of 2008 that he was open to expanding nuclear power after having previously opposed it.

          Immigration & Healthcare

          Immigration Reform

          In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation in his first year. He did not. He has now made the same promise for the first year of his second term.

          Health Care Mandate

          Obama was against the individual mandate before it became a central part of his signature legislation.

          Single Payer Health Care

          In 2003, as an Illinois state senator, Obama said, "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program." In 2009, Obama said, "I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter."

          Keeping Your Insurance

          Leading up to the passage of Obamacare, Obama promised Americans that they would be able to keep their current insurance plan if they like it. Further analysis by the CBO has revealed that Obamacare would cause many seniors to have their Medicare Advantage coverage cut in half and millions to be dropped from their employer-provided insurance.

          Cost of Obamacare

          Obama promised that he would "not sign [a healthcare bill] if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period." Yet, a new analysis determines that his bill will add quite a bit to future deficits.

          Insuring All Americans

          Obama outlined three goals for his health care legislation. Lowering the cost curve and insuring all Americans were two of the three. It has now been determined that Obamacare will add to the deficit and 25 million Americans will remain uninsured.

          Reconciliation

          In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform that was passed via reconciliation, contrary to his 2007 insistence that health care reform should not be passed by a bare "50 plus one majority", and his 2005 rejection of the 'nuclear option' in the Senate.

          Televising Healthcare Negotiations

          In 2008, Obama said, when it came to crafting health care reform, "we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN." Many crucial negotiations pertaining to health care reform were not televised.

          Taxing Health Benefits

          In 2008, Obama criticized his presidential opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), saying, "for the first time in American history, he wants to tax your health benefits." In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform legislation that puts a 40% tax on some health insurance policies.

          Importing Cheaper Drugs

          In 2008, Obama said that, as President, his health care reform would allow Americans to import cheaper prescription drugs. The health care reform he signed into law does not allow this.

          Cracking Down on Employers of Illegal Immigrants

          Obama opposed cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants before running for President, but supported it during his run.

          Defense

          Closing Guantanamo

          In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as president, he would "close the detention facility at Guantanamo." And, in January 2009, Obama signed an executive order calling for the Guantanamo Bay facility to be closed. It remains open.

          Military tribunals for terror suspects

          In the 2008 campaign, Obama said that, as president, he would end the use of military commissions with respect to terrorism suspects and detainees. However, they are still in use.

          Rendition of Terror Suspects

          "In a 2007 Foreign Affairs article, Senator Obama gave a strong indication that he would end the Bush administration practice of rendition of terror suspects:

          "To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people… This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law."

          But, as The New York Times reported in August 2009, the Obama administration's Interrogation and Transfer Task Force announced that it would retain renditions, but with what The Times referred to as "more oversight.'"

          Photos of Detainee Abuse

          In April 2009, the Obama administration said it planned to release photos depicting abuse of detainees being held by the U.S. overseas. The administration then reversed its decision, and said it would resist court rulings demanding the release of such photos.

          Patriot Act

          Obama said he would repeal the Patriot Act in a 2003 questionnaire, but later voted to renew it in the Senate.

          FISA

          In 2007, Obama pleased liberal advocates by promising to filibuster any bill that gave amnesty to telecommunication companies that were assisting authorities with wiretapping activities. Obama voted for a bill that did just that in July of 2008.

          Killing Osama Bin Laden

          Obama highlighted the importance of killing Osama Bin Laden while running for president and after OBL was killed in Pakistan, but made the claim that it was no longer "essential" when he first got into office.

          Other

          Public Financing

          Obama promised to seek public financing for his presidential campaign in 2008, but ended up rejecting public financing.

          2008 Debates

          In May 2008, Obama said he would meet McCain "anywhere, anytime to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world". But he rejected town hall debates proposed by the McCain campaign.

          Voting Along Party Lines

          In 2010, Obama decried Senate candidate Scott Brown's (R-MA) record of voting with Republicans 96% of the time, saying it showed Brown was not "independent." When he himself was in the Senate, Obama voted with Democrats 96% of the time.

          Minimum Wage

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour, up from the current $7.25 an hour. It has not been raised.

          Civility

          "After the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and several others (six people were killed), Obama said, "at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do — it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we're talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds". Yet Obama has frequently described Republicans as Social Darwinists. He has said that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats "have a sense of neighborliness and a sense of community, and we are willing to look out for one another and help people who are vulnerable and help people who are down on their luck".

          In his book, "The Audacity of Hope", Obama lamented the description of abortion opponents as"right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman's right to choose". Obama said the"standard boilerplate" rhetoric had been written — not by himself — but by someone on his U.S. Senate campaign staff, and he had the "offending words" removed from his website. In recent months, however, Obama has described Republican opponents of abortion as seeking to "turn back the clock", "prevent millions of women from getting basic health care that they desperately need", and "stirring up fights over a woman's right to make her own health care choices".

          Despite advocating civility and civil debate, Obama has appointed Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) to chair the DNC, even though she has frequently resorted to name-calling (e.g., here, here,here, here, and here). Rather than chastising her for her incivility, Obama has praised her.

          After James "Jimmy" Hoffa, Jr., launched this invective at the Tea Party – "President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong" – during an event at which Obama was about to speak, the Obama administration refused to denounce Hoffa's offensive (and violent) rhetoric, saying they would not act as the "speech police". Days later, Obama's presidential campaign launched AttackWatch.com, a website dedicated to policing the speech of Republicans and denouncing them when they say unfair things about Obama."

          Questioning Patriotism

          "In 2008, Obama said, "I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine. [...] Patriotism can never be defined as loyalty to any particular leader, or government, or policy." However, in that same year, he called the Bush administration's decision to raise the debt ceiling "unpatriotic". [Obama] has accused Republicans of putting party before country, and he has stood idly by as others in his party — e.g., Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) — have said Republicans are "not patriotic.'"

          Presidential Commissions

          In 2008, Obama derided presidential commissions as "Washington-speak" for "we'll get back to you later." In 2010, he appointed the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform to look for solutions to the debt crisis. The commission did not have the votes to submit their plan to Congress, and Obama has not championed their proposals.

          Furthermore, in 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would create a national commission to look at whether programs such as Social Security Disability Insurance, Supplementary Security Income, Medicare and Medicaid create an incentive for people to not work. He has yet to do so.

          Public Posting of Bills Before Passage

          In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as president, he would "not sign any nonemergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House Web site for five days". He has since signed non-emergency bills without the five-day public review period.

          White House Fleet

          In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would convert the White House fleet of cars to plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles. He has not done so.

          Gay Marriage

          Obama's position on this issue is constantly changing. President Obama openly opposed gay marriage during the 2008 election. Obama also supported states deciding the issue at that point. However, later on Obama opposed California's ban on gay marriage and has said his views on the issue are "evolving."

          Super PACs

          Obama opposed use and coordination of Super PAC's following the Citizens United decisions, but recently changed course and signaled approval of Super PAC's that are supporting his re-election effort.

          D.C. Handgun Ban

          Obama supported the D.C. hand gun ban before agreeing with the Supreme Court decision that it "went beyond constitutional limits."

          School Voucher Program

          Barack Obama suggested he would support a D.C. voucher program before opposing it and eventually cutting funding to it.

          Decriminalizing Marijuana

          Obama told students in 2004 he supported decriminalizing marijuana usage, but opposed it during his run for president. He has yet to take significant steps to decriminalize marijuana as President.

          Union Support

          "In January [2008], the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as 'special interest' money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. Since gaining his own union support, Obama refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of 'working people' and says he is 'thrilled' by their support."

          Abortion

          Obama disagreed with the Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on partial birth abortion and had a 100% NARAL rating in 2006, 2007 and 2008, but while being interviewed by a Christian magazine Obama said that "mental distress" should not count as a "health of the mother" exception to a ban.

          Wearing a U.S. Flag Pin

          Obama refused to wear a flag pin during the 2008 primaries because he considered them a substitute for "true patriotism", but he started wearing it again once the primaries were over.

          Welfare Reform

          Obama called Bill Clinton's 1996 Welfare Reform legislation "disturbing" at the time it was passed, but he celebrated the reforms and what they resulted in once running for president.

          Jeremiah Wright

          When videos of the controversial remarks of Obama's long time pastor and mentor, Reverand Jeremiah Wright, first appeared, the President said he can no more disown Wright than his white grandmother. Once it became even clearer that Wright was an extreme individual, Obama did disown and disassociate himself from Wright.

          Accepting Donations from Lobbyists

          Obama had a campaign pledge to not accept political contributions from lobbyists, yet Obama accepted money from registered airline lobbyist Ron Klein.

          No Lobbyists

          President Obama promised and made a campaign issue of not have a revolving door of lobbyists joining and leaving his administration, but has consistently violated this pledge by providing waivers to circumvent this promise.

          • 22 votes
          #2.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

          Jesus wept, Ticked- just when I think you're actually in danger of growing a brain, you go and spoil it for all of us godless commie queers by posting some 8000-word chunk of recycled pig puke from WND or some other such impartial and reliable source.

          Dude, you cannot seriously believe that anybody, not even some of your fellow travellers- whoops, y'all don't use that term, sorry- your own relatives is going to plow through all of that swill, especially when it's pretty obvious from the astonishing alactity with which you post it that you're not reading it yourself!?

          It's really OK, Ticked. I've been dealing with guys like you since I entered the workforce- every one of you cut from the same bolt of cloth; nothing really ever changes but the names and the places.

          Yours in revolutionary comradeship,

          FoxTrotsky

          • 10 votes
          #2.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

          I trust President Obama a WHOLE LOT more, than I would trust Romney/Ryan and their 1950's agenda for America. We are finally climbing out of the CHASM, that was left to us by "DUBYA", and these two want to knock us right back INTO IT, and then some!

          • 6 votes
          #2.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

          Hey Trotsky

          Dude, you cannot seriously believe that anybody, not even some of your fellow travellers- whoops, y'all don't use that term, sorry- your own relatives is going to plow through all of that swill,

          None of you closed minded libtards will take the time to look at even 1 point...and it's not because it would take any significant amount of time to do so...

          The reason you wont investigate for yourself is that you mentally cant do it. Your narrow mindedness will not allow a blasphemous thought that your Liar In Chief is not who you think he is.

          You will not even take 30 seconds to click on a link and learn....

          So you try to belittle others to make yourself feel better.

          All you libtard pukes attack me day after day, and all that says is that you are scared and you should be...your messiah is going to lose this election and you'll have nothing to cling to.

          I dont worship Mitt Romney, he's a good business man that I know will help turn this country around.

          So go ahead and take your shots, i dont mind. Just remember me when the election results are in.

          HEADLINE NOVEMBER 7TH, 2012

          ROMNEY WINS!!! RECORD REPUBLICAN VOTER TURNOUT"

          • 10 votes
          #2.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

          Blue:

          Trust? Where are all of Obama's friends from 2008? They know the truth.

          Oprah got her entire viewing audience to vote for him, now she is no where to be found.

          It takes more than words to create trust.

          Romney/Ryan 2012

          • 10 votes
          #2.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

          Actually, TickTock, I did read quite a ways into your last post, looking for something that would fail the proverbial 'smell test'; something that looked like a really serious betrayal of either his ideals or his proposed agenda. True, on some things he's failed to deliver. In many respects, he's been a disappointment; in some ways, I do feel that he's betrayed those of us who believed his campaign rhetoric and voted for him. (And this is my eighth presidential campaign since I reached voting age- you'd think I would have become cynical, but we Progressives are a notoriously idealistic and hopeful lot.)

          As for your last, ungodly long post, most of what's there falls into the categories of 'administrative adjustments' or 'stuff that got put aside in order to deal with stuff that really counted.' I mean, flag lapel pins... are you f*****g kidding me? I'm supposed to feel betrayed or deceived over something like that? And I'd say about 80% of the items on your list (before I gave up in amused disgust)were like that, examples of Big Furry Dog.

          I have been reaching out to Republican voters on this space; I've said to several, Why don't we put the ugliness aside and see if we can find some points of agreement? Let's start by assuming the other guy's basic decency and love for his country and go from there. The response has been gratifying and encouraging; when you aren't starting out by assuming that your opponent is wicked and bad, it's surprising how much you and the other guy have in common.

          I am prepared, sir, to extend that same olive branch to you; if you'd like to have an actual dialogue instead of a mudslinging competition, I'm down for that. If you're prepared to at least entertain the possibility that your President is not wholly evil, and his followers not blind acolytes, let's talk.

          • 5 votes
          #2.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

          Pigotry, did you mean chameleon? I think, Obama is leading Romney in that respect, and I just heard Obama ask, who who who who who do you trust ? Well, not you Obama, still. Every time Obama asks that question, he starts stuttering, like he knows the answer.

          • 2 votes
          #2.8 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:40 AM EST
          Reply

          Wow, that's rich... Obama trying to convince us how trust-worthy he is, all-the-while aware of the huge cover-up he participated in regarding the American murders in Benghazi, of which Obama was warned of 1 month in advance.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

          You have not been keep abreast of the real news lately, have you? Appears mendacity is not just a problem for the republican candidate.

          • 8 votes
          #3.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:37 PM EDT

          A senior intelligence official has issued a new timeline for the events surrounding the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, indicating a series of tragic miscalculations that left CIA officers exposed at an annex near the consulate -- but no evidence of interference from Washington or of the CIA witholding aid from the State Department, as Republican critics have alleged.

          • 10 votes
          #3.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

          OH, a new timeline, you don't say...? LOL

          What was wrong with their OLD timeline? It didn't coincide with all the various attempts to cover-up the advance warning, that's what was wrong with it. Obama has given us about 3 separate renditions of what happened. What a fraud, what a cover-up.

          • 11 votes
          #3.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

          @Jim Day-7211904

          A senior intelligence official has issued a new timeline for the events surrounding the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, indicating a series of tragic miscalculations that left CIA officers exposed at an annex near the consulate -- but no evidence of interference from Washington or of the CIA witholding aid from the State Department, as Republican critics have alleged.

          I have a problem with this latest story regarding the CIA's involvement. Presidential candidates get national security briefings once they have been declared the official candidate by their party. So either Romney was excluded from receiving this information or it is BS. Honestly for me either option wouldn't surprise me considering the way the Obama campaign has been run.


          • 4 votes
          #3.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

          fiefly,

          You are as much of a congenital liar as Mittens. Here's the truth about Benghazi, Nazi.

          http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14865301-new-timeline-of-benghazi-attack-notes-quick-response-by-defenders?lite

          • 8 votes
          #3.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

          Good job Ticked off in Ohio. there are some out there tha really understand what Obama is doing to out country.

          • 3 votes
          #3.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

          Yo're right there are some smart people who see what a good job Obama is doing for this country. The only ones that don't see are the hate mongers and pitifull Rethuglicans.They don't hate Obama's policies they hate the man. It has absolutely has nothing to do with politics. You figure it out. He's a hell of a lot smarter than you,and that just bothers the hell out of a lot of people. Face it and get over yourself.

          • 7 votes
          #3.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

          Trust an anti-American communist/socialist/progressive/Marxist, who is hell-bent on the destruction of this country, that's a laugh

          • 2 votes
          #3.8 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:38 AM EST

          Trust...will any military man or woman ever trust Obummer to have their backs after Libya??

          • 2 votes
          #3.9 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:26 AM EST
          Reply

          Here's something you can trust about Obama...

          "..If somebody wants to build a coal-fired plant they can, it's just that I will bankrupt them because they will be charged a huge sum for all that green house gas being emitted..."
          --Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr

          Ohio has 32 counties produce coal - THOUSANDS LOSE THEIR JOBS - because Obama doesn't like ..what we do!

          Columbus - Picway Plant CLOSED
          Cincinnati - W.C. Beckjord Plant CLOSED
          Beverly Muskingum River Plant to CLOSE
          Conesville Plant to CLOSE

          Obama DESTROYED JOBS that we used to have!

          • 16 votes
          Reply#4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

          But, suddenly, Mittens DIDN'T close that coal fired plant in Massachusetts?

          • 10 votes
          #4.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

          SingBiker, Maybe coal kills people in Massachusetts but saves people in Ohio. Maybe the coal is more benign there. I've never thought Governor Romney was evil, and I don't care about his religion or his tax returns. But I wish he would come straight out and say what he believes. Why is that so difficult, if he is the God-fearing miracle worker his willfully blind fan club thinks he is?

          • 1 vote
          #4.2 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:22 AM EST
          Reply

          Other reasons you shouldn't trust Obama:

          United Nations speeches, Libya, etc: Obama is ducking every legitimate question about his international cowardice.

          Foreign trade unbalanced: Jeep is opening a new plant NOT in America, but in Italy. Expect to see a downsizing soon in America, as the jobs shift to Italy and the buying from China increases.

          Economic instability: China has quit buying American bonds because of the downgrade caused by Obama increasing American debt to $16 trillion. Obama's "plan" will continue to increase that debt. Our kids will be sending their taxes to China soon rather than the IRS.

          Domestic finances in ruins: Obama took office with an employment rate of 7.8%. He promised us that in 4 years he'd lower it to 5.9%. Instead, today he delivered 7.9%. That means 9 million jobs are still MISSING. Obama has failed us miserably.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

          Mitt Romney wants to bring people together and he wants Americans to vote for love of country.

          If you believe that crock, i've got some oceanfront property in Mongolia for sale.

          He will deliver real change for a real recovery, creating 12 million new jobs with rising take-home pay and a better future for all Americans.”

          And just how ya' gonna do that, Willard? We've never heard that from you. Talk is cheap. We are smarter than that.

          • 15 votes
          Reply#6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

          No, Tony, don't be a - a- um, a HEATER? Just look on Mitt's website-Hell's bells, man, he only said so himself about 87 times in the last debate- he's got a five- point plan! FIVE points, so even really dumb people (like, for example, almost all of his likely voters) can totally follow along and understand it!

          You know what- I did exactly that. I went to his website and looked at his plan, and what it amounts to are some ringing and high-flown promises, completely devoid of any details about how exactly he intends to accomplish any of it. We get lying idiots like BrianB- yes, BrianB, I was talking to you, you punk- claiming that "Obama doesn't have a plan!" because InsHannity told them to say so. The President has laid out his entire agenda for his second term in great detail, and the best the panicking minions of the Forces of Darkness can come up with is, "Benghazi! No plan! Benghazi! Benghazi!" And they're trying to conflate it with Watergate- wrong- or Fast and Furious- right, because the final report cleared Holder and the entire Administration of any wrongdoing (but you didn't hear that from the lapdog corporate media, didja?).

          Now, about this Ticked Off in Ohio lunatic- isn't there some sort of rule against cutting and pasting these freakin' NOVELS on here? I can always fast-forward past the comments of people who I know to be real imbeciles or cranks (calling BrianB again!), but in Ticked's case, it's become a real chore. Didn't this site used to have moderators on it? (You know, like they have at the Huffington Post, who clear every comment from a right-winger that's reasonably coherent, but who only clear comments from Lefties when they're hysterical, misspelled, rambling or just plain dumb. This is a progressive news site? Yeah, like Captain Crunch was a naval officer.)

          • 7 votes
          #6.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

          A HEATER? LOL! Fox, you bring out the best in the retreads. Thanks for making my day, pal.

          • 5 votes
          #6.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:17 PM EDT
          Reply

          Mitt Romney’s campaign insults voters

          THROUGH ALL THE flip-flops, there
          has been one consistency in the campaign of Republican presidential nominee
          Mitt Romney: a contempt for the electorate.

          How else to explain his refusal
          to disclose essential information? Defying recent bipartisan tradition, he
          failed to release the names of his bundlers — the high rollers who
          collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations. He never provided sufficient tax returns to show voters how he became rich.

          How, other than an
          assumption that voters are too dim to remember what Mr. Romney has said across
          the years and months, to account for his breathtaking ideological shifts? He
          was a friend of immigrants, then a scourge of immigrants, then again a friend.
          He was a Kissingerian foreign policy realist, then a McCain-like hawk, then a
          purveyor of peace. He pioneered Obamacare, he detested Obamacare, then he found
          elements in it to cherish. Assault weapons were bad, then good. Abortion was
          okay, then bad. Climate change was an urgent problem; then, not so much.
          Hurricane cleanup was a job for the states, until it was once again a job for
          the feds.

          The same presumption of
          gullibility has infused his misleading commercials (see: Jeep jobs to China) and his refusal to lay out an agenda.
          Mr. Romney promised to replace the Affordable Care Act but never said with
          what. He promised an alternative to President Obama’s lifeline to young
          undocumented immigrants but never deigned to describe it.

          And then there has been
          his chronic, baldly dishonest defense of mathematically impossible budget proposals. He promised
          to cut income tax rates without exploding the deficit or tilting the tax code
          toward the rich — but he refused to say how he could bring that off. When
          challenged, he cited “studies” that he maintained proved him right. But the
          studies were a mix of rhetoric, unrealistic growth projections and more serious
          economics that actually proved him wrong.

          This last is important — maybe
          the crux of the next four years. History has shown that it’s a lot easier to
          cut taxes than to reduce spending. Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and
          George W. Bush promised to do both, managed to do only the first and (with
          plenty of help from Congress) greatly increased the national debt.

          Now Mr. Romney promises to reduce
          income tax rates by one-fifth — for the rich, that means from 35 percent to 28
          percent — and to raise defense spending while balancing the budget. To do so,
          he would reduce other spending — unspecified — and take away deductions —
          unspecified. One of the studies he cited, by Harvard economist Martin
          Feldstein, said Mr. Romney could make the tax math work by depriving every
          household earning $100,000 or more of all of its charitable deductions,
          mortgage-interest deductions and deductions for state and local income taxes.

          Does Mr. Romney favor
          ending those popular tax breaks? He won’t say. But he did take issue with Mr.
          Feldstein’s definition of the middle class: Mr. Romney said he would protect households earning $250,000 or less. In which
          case the Feldstein study did not vindicate the Romney arithmetic — it refuted
          it. Yet the candidate has continued to cite the study.

          Within limits, all candidates say
          and do what they have to say and do to win. Mr. Obama also has dodged serious
          interviews and news conferences. He has offered few specifics for a second-term
          agenda. He, too, aired commercials that distorted his opponent’s statements.

          But Mr. Obama has a record;
          voters know his priorities. His budget plan is inadequate, but it wouldn’t make
          things worse.

          Mr. Romney, by contrast, seems to
          be betting that voters have no memories, poor arithmetic skills and a general
          inability to look behind the curtain. We hope the results Tuesday prove him
          wrong.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mitt-romneys-election-campaign-insults-voters/2012/11/02/69fcc1fc-2428-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story.html

          • 20 votes
          #7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

          I think that pretty much tells the tale and it's pretty much the truth unlike Ol' Willard's entrys in the Hootin' Holler Tale Tale and Big Fish Story Competetion. And you'll Yahoo's want this Yahoo to be President of these here United States. About the same chance of that happening as a Snowball has in Hell.

          • 17 votes
          #7.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

          IR,

          "Mr. Romney, by contrast, seems to be betting that voters have no memories, poor arithmetic skills and a general inability to look behind the curtain."

          And when you pull back the curtain there is no "there" there.

          Just a Romney bobble head that will say anything to win an election.

          • 17 votes
          #7.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

          Northstar. Ol' Willard is betting on all the Yahoo's out there with Obama Derangement Syndrome who will accept anything as long as it ain't Obama. I've got news for both them and Ol' Willard. The majority of us ain't buying it.

          • 16 votes
          #7.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

          Independent Redneck,

          You copied and pasted that post from another source, and messed up all the line-returns, etc. LOL

          • 5 votes
          #7.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

          Sure did fiefly. and unlike your friend Ticked managed to give a link that actually works to back it up. At this point form don't matter as much as substance does. In other words you and you'lls form don't matter 'cause you'll ain't got no substance to back it up.LOL on that for a while

          • 14 votes
          #7.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

          You copied and pasted that post from another source, and messed up all the line-returns, etc. LOL

          Hey Floyd!

          I'm LMAO at the level of desperation the RWNJ's have been reduced to!

          Nice work!

          • 10 votes
          #7.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

          Indy Red, I believe I'd give a fair bit to set down n' kill a few sasparillas with you someday (if you're partial to somethin' stronger, won't trouble me none).

          I cannot too much admire the way you have of barbecuing their collective arses and serving them up hot and smokin', all the while soundin' so all-fired polite about it!

          You are an American original. Give 'em Hell! (To which Indy Red responds, in the spirit of Harry Truman: "I never give 'em Hell. I just tell the truth, and it sounds like Hell to the Republicans!")

          • 10 votes
          #7.7 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

          I believe I'd give a fair bit to set down n' kill a few sasparillas with you someday (if you're partial to somethin' stronger, won't trouble me none

          Trust me, Floyd enjoys him something stronger, I've tossed back a fair share with him over the years!

          We've even crashed a wedding or two...

          Now, if I could just get him to stick around for breakfast! ;o)

          • 9 votes
          #7.8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

          Indy Red-- Great posts! To bad the Repubs. on here will either put you down, or outright insult you for telling the truth! But there are those of us here, who KNOW just what R&R really stand for, and we're behind ya !! Shout out to my pal Feisty too!!

          • 8 votes
          #7.9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

          Fox I been noticing you have a certain flair for the barbequeing yourself. I'd never turn done an invite such as that and as Betty says later in the evening I do have a predilection for Jack and Ginger and good conversation rather than sasparilla. Stop on by the Dew Drop Inn when you get a chance and that'll have to serve till we get a chance to do something better. Shucks one of these days maybe you can lend my Main Lady Betty a rope to tie me down for breakfast. Like old Willie Says;Cowboys like smokey old pool rooms and clear mountian moringin's
          Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night
          And them that don't know him won't like him
          And them that do sometimes won't know how to take him
          He ain't wrong he's just different
          but his pride won't let him do things to make you think he's right

          • 7 votes
          #7.10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

          Blue my thanks for the shout too. Shucks after all the insults and threats me and my Lady Betty have put up with over the last couple of years those just don't have no power at all. I do believe that I can now say that I've been insulted by Professionals and am still here and still standing.

          • 8 votes
          #7.11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

          Well, done as always, IR! You do us proud!

          • 6 votes
          #7.12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

          Shout out to my pal Feisty too!!

          Right back atcha blueinut!

          The finish line is within sight, we can't take our foot off the gas at the moment! :o)

          I do believe that I can now say that I've been insulted by Professionals and am still here and still standing.

          How true Floyd!

          They might of landed a bruise or two over time, yet, have come nowhere close to taking us down!

          Not for a second...

          maybe you can lend my Main Lady Betty a rope to tie me down for breakfast

          Just wait until next year... lol

          • 7 votes
          #7.13 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

          Hey Feisty - I'm going to a neighborhood BBQ shortly. Everyone is a Dem so the conversation will be interesting and uplifting. Have a great evening all my progressive friends and keep the faith!

          OBAMA/BIDEN TUESDAY NIGHT!!!

          • 8 votes
          #7.14 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

          I'm going to a neighborhood BBQ shortly.

          Hey Kim,

          How was the BBQ?

          • 1 vote
          #7.15 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:56 AM EST

          Feisty - It was great - pulled pork BBQ, mac & cheese and peach cobbler - lots of wine and great conversation. I live in a wonderful, old, progressive neighborhood in the middle of a predominately Republican town. An oasis in a crazy world.

          Get lots of sleep FRIENDS and prepare for a long Tuesday night. I can't wait for our President to be re-elected and end all this madness.

          OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

          • 1 vote
          #7.16 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 10:28 AM EST

          Get lots of sleep FRIENDS and prepare for a long Tuesday night. I can't wait for our President to be re-elected and end all this madness.

          Will do, however, I don't think it is going to be as late as is being predicted. Unless there is funny-business in states like FL & OH?

          Glad to hear you had a good time. The menu sounded scrumptious! Mmmm!

          • 1 vote
          #7.17 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 11:13 AM EST

          Feisty - Count on funny-business in Florida. Voting; funny business; and Florida are synonymous.

            #7.18 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:35 PM EST
            Reply

            The final weekend has begun.

            Heard there are long lines in early voting in FL, Ohio and other states.

            The people will have the last word on Tuesday.

            I trust President Obama to continue to work for the middle class, to move this country forward in the areas of education, research, rebuilding our infrasturcutre, and implementing the Affordable Heathcare Law.

            I do not trust Romney or Ryan with SS, Medicare, heath care , or anything that needs scientific thought. They are the standard bearers for going backwards with the same tired economic policy that got us to the great recession in 2007.

            • 22 votes
            Reply#8 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:21 PM EDT

            Northstar--good post!

            • 12 votes
            #8.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

            Obama's book-learnin' can't match real-world experience. Romney is a proven financial success, and he has international finance experience... he turned around the Olympics! Obama is a wanna-be who is fooling people with his stage-acting, but hasn't accomplished anything for America.

            Obama is better at "playing President on TV" rather than actually BEING a president. He's more into "celebrity" than leading a country.

            • 6 votes
            #8.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

            Romney has international finance experience---yeah, his offshore accounts and holding in Swiss banks, the Cayman Islands and his Bain holdings in China.

            He turned around the Olympics---with a government bailout! Good for the Olympics; but, let Detroit go bankrupt.

            • 13 votes
            #8.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

            fiefly,

            Yeah, Romney is a proven financial success - for HIMSELF at the expense of American jobs.

            Obama has achieved more for America than the last two Repugnicans combined, idiot.

            • 12 votes
            #8.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

            Romney doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't sleep around, has a great family, has taught his boys to be service-minded, has devoted most of his life to public service and good deeds, and gives generously of his time and treasure. He worked 3 yrs as Chairman of the Olympic committee, UNPAID; 4 yrs as Gov of MA, UNPAID; and has promised to donate his Presidential salary to charity. He has released 2 years of his income tax returns, which shows he paid more in taxes than he had to and proves he gives double what Obama does to charity (not even taking into consideration that he immediately handed his inheritance from his father over to charity). He is a hard worker and has made a very successful career out of saving troubled businesses. It's what he does best. What a Godsend at this time. If Romney, a man of this kind of integrity, is not elected president, we will never find another man like this again. If he doesn't prevail over a man that has such little character as Obama has proved himself to have, (the latest, using the word “revenge” when referring to some of our countrymen to further divide our country), it will be a sad commentary on this country.”

            • 5 votes
            #8.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

            @whyisitclose

            I can't believe you use integrity and character in the same sentence as Mitt Romney. He has neither.

            • 8 votes
            #8.6 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

            whysitclose you are truly a crazy mormom or just a plain crazy ass bigot fk u

            • 1 vote
            #8.7 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 2:52 AM EST

            fiefly, Governor Romney "saved" the Olympics with money from the evil Feds. How many times does this information have to be posted before you pay attention?

            • 2 votes
            #8.8 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:28 AM EST
            Reply

            Let's hope this election puts to rest Karl Rove's doctrine of 'Lie enough and people will believe it"---the most destructive political policy I've ever seen, even worse than Norquist's pledge above all else!

            • 10 votes
            Reply#9 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

            You forgot Feingold'a quote or about. Everyone LIES to win.All's fair in politics.

            • 1 vote
            #9.1 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 6:50 AM EST

            That was put to rest 4 years ago when Obama was elected!

            • 1 vote
            #9.2 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 7:13 AM EST
            Reply

            I happen to agree with the "revenge" comment. When politicians or other groups put up a bunch of crap or spend so much money on misleading propositions and initiatives, the only right thing to do is reject them at the ballot box and get your revenge. Show them that your time is important and you don't appreciate them trying to fool you or scare you into a position they want. Revenge is best served cold.

            • 12 votes
            Reply#10 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:37 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarfieflyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Imagine if the families of those murdered at the American embassy felt that way... i.e. if they took out their revenge on Obama, and "served him up cold" in a bodybag. Would make the choice on Tuesday even easier than it already is.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#11 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

            fiefly,

            I keep suggesting you read this, but you probably can't read. Just have to keep listening to the Faux News talking heads.

            http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14865301-new-timeline-of-benghazi-attack-notes-quick-response-by-defenders?lite

            • 9 votes
            #11.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
            Reply

            Trust? Libya-gate is living proof that Obama the pathological lying Commie coward and baby-butchering idiot, belongs in a prison cell, not the Oval Office. His "auto bailout" was just a sham deal to buy the votes of his UAW cronies, he looted billions from GM and Chrysler stockholders, dealerships and white collar employees. Taxpayer $ will never be repaid in full, nor will stockholders recover their stolen investments. Obama's a pathetic Commie.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#12 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

            RepublicanLawyer...I don't usually agree with such blatent descriptions but I could not have said it better. Honest description that is not often put right out there!

            • 4 votes
            #12.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

            Republican Lawyer my @$$. You couldn't pass a BAR exam if your life depended on it. But, ive been to seven different galaxies.

            • 6 votes
            #12.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

            Ummm...you really believe that garbage don't you??? I'm going to pray for you...

            • 2 votes
            #12.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

            RepublicanMILawyer: How does it come to pass that you are a J.D., but failed in all your years of education to gain even a perfunctory understanding of what Communism is!?

            I must confess that you sound to me like either an idiot or a liar, probably (c).

            • 8 votes
            #12.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:26 PM EDT
            Reply

            fiefly,

            Your imagination is a B movie that no one wants to see.

            Hate will eventually eat you alive...

            • 13 votes
            Reply#13 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

            Biden's confused... he thinks America is voting for 'Entertainer of the Year', not Commander-In-Chief.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#14 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

            Biden could not have said it better than he did Friday in Sarasota Fl (when he thought he was in Ohio)when he said that in the last 4 years there was not a day when he was proud to be Obama's vice president "Not one single day".

            Later he also said he is thinking of running for president in 2016 and he had backing from numerous Democrats.

            • 5 votes
            #14.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:38 PM EDT
            Reply

            In 2009 Romney bought a controlling interest in Delphi, a major parts supplier to GM. Then he tried to extort $350 million from GM and the US treasury by threatening to shut down Delphi if they didn't pay out. It turned out to be a very lucrative investment for Romney........but even after getting money from the auto bailout Romney chose to ship 25,000 jobs to China:

            http://www.thenation.com/article/170644/mitt-romneys-bailout-bonanza

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/romney-delphi-auto_b_2051373.html

            Stephen Rattner, who was leading the Obama administration bailout effort, writes that Delphi'a vulture funds initially told the Treasury and GM to hand over the first $350 million immediately, "because if you don't, we'll shut you down."

            That won't play well in Ohio, Indiana or Michigan. No wonder Romney didn't want anyone to see his 2009 taxes.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#15 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

            Good ol' Mitt made 15 million for firing 25000 Americans and sending their jobs to China!

            • 13 votes
            #15.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

            I'm glad someone is finally talking this up.. Romney is self before country...

            • 6 votes
            #15.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

            Trust a man with no honor, no integrity, no decency? No way, --Obama has shown his true colors for four years and they aren't red, white and blue. Al-qaida is alive and thriving and our Ambassador, 2 NAVY Seals and others are dead. Why? Obama wants the stupid to believe he stopped Terrorism. He wouldn't even allow our forces to help our Embassy because it wouldn't fit with his political agenda.

            Watergate was nothing compared to what Obama has done. If elected, he'll shortly be impeached and then you're left with Biden's continuous state of CONFUSION.

            Obama has given us Poverty, Joblessness, Growing Debt, Loss of Freedom, Loss of Morals & Values. He is a curse upon the country.

            • 1 vote
            #15.3 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 8:09 AM EST
            Reply

            FEMA and the Red Cross and other fed agencies are doing a terrible job w/ Hurricane Sandy recovery.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#16 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

            fiefly,

            Can't you find your way back to the rock you crawled out from under?

            • 10 votes
            #16.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

            fiefly.. Cite your source other than FOX news.....

            • 12 votes
            #16.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

            You always have to give Bill in MN-3317751 sources because he can't read it himself.

            • 1 vote
            #16.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:24 PM EDT
            Reply

            Sueb1,

            Right, and now he wants to do that on a Nationwide scale.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#17 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

            Well, I don't trust President Oboma, Hillery Clinton, or any of their administration! He, and his administration, are a dismal failure and seriously lack any command ability - look at Syria and what happened over there - His administration failed to protect our hero's and left them to fend for themselves in their time of need! The Truth is coming out slowly because the administration is lying to the public, and suppressing what really happened, before, during, and after, this tragedy! [:-(]

            • 6 votes
            Reply#18 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

            Gary2009-1,

            Obama, and his administration, did everything in their power to assist during the Benghazi attack. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/11/02/164140811/u-s-offers-new-details-of-deadly-libya-attack

            And what the hell does Syria have to do with it? Apparently, the truth will never penetrate that rock you are using for a head.

            • 10 votes
            #18.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

            Gary... the threads on here will be less after Hiliary leaves because she and Obama have 2 more treaties to sign with the UN. #1 is to have the UN tax every single time you (worldwide) use the internet there WILL be a tax and it will be paid to the UN. You will be billed and they will know who/where you used the email/internet. #2 is the UN will determine by treaty gun control for the world. I would hope that this would stop any Democrat candiacy for Hiliary in 2016. Bubba you can stop campaigning for O. now because she will not be running in 2016.

            • 4 votes
            #18.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:45 PM EDT
            Reply

            How can you trust anyone who makes this vow to the children to this country, then breaks it by creating a never ending ever growing debt crisis that has turned our country into the Greece of the America's?

            In February 2009, Democratic President Barack Obama stated:

            I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay. And that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.

            "Remarks at the Fiscal Responsibility Summit." By Barack Obama. Government
            Printing Office, February 23, 2009. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/presdocs/2009/DCPD200900102.htm

            • 7 votes
            Reply#19 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

            Does America really trust:

            Obama the former Drug user.

            Obama who never had a job

            Obama who never created a job

            Obama who never had a business

            Obama who Lies about where he is from.

            Obama who Paid 4 million to hide his records.

            Obama who has made his money stealing from the American Tax Payers.

            We can't trust Obama we know that. He lee 4 Americans' die in a Libya terrorist attack and lied to cover it up.

            And Obama says this is about trust.

            Then vote Romney/Ryan on Nov. 6, 2012.

            America's choice.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#20 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

            In Ohio, all that really matters is Romney would have let Detroit go bankrupt and NOW is lying about GM and Chrysler moving production overseas. Comprendez?

            • 7 votes
            #20.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

            Ohio is much smarter than the liar in the WH.

            They are supporting Romney/Ryan.

            • 4 votes
            #20.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

            ED

            Its amazing how you've choosen to deceive people. Why do you keep posting lies that you know are lies?

            • 5 votes
            #20.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

            Lucky...I would like to know how a community organizer after 3 years as president can buy a $40,000,000.00 estate in Hawaii....according to Michelle O.

            • 5 votes
            #20.4 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

            CoCo-1551796

            Lucky...I would like to know how a community organizer after 3 years as president can buy a $40,000,000.00 estate in Hawaii....according to Michelle O.

            GREAT! You must be reading Weekly World News -- They reported that "story" along with others, like "KIM KARDASHIAN'S BUTT EXPLODES" and "ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN NOVEMBER 2012!"

            • 2 votes
            #20.5 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

            What???

            When you are worth over $10 million like Obama is, you can buy a $40 million estate in Hawaii especially when the tax payers are going to be funding part of it.

            • 2 votes
            #20.6 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:17 AM EST
            Reply

            In Ohio, there is much GREATER resonance concerning the fact that Romney lied to our faces about GM and Chrysler MOVING not EXPANDING production overseas. Comprendez?

            • 10 votes
            Reply#21 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

            All economic indicators show strong and steady increases from their depressed state in 2008 and 2009. These increases represent a recovery that will last.

            1. Real GDP increased in the 3rd QTR by 2.0%, from 1.2% gains in 2nd QTR of 2012 - UP
            2. M2 Money Supply in Sept 2012 was 10126.9 Billion, from 7855.0 Billion in Nov. 2009 - UP
            3. CPI Consumer Price Index in Sept 2012 - 231.407, from 211.143 in Jan 2009 - UP
            4. Producer Price Index -http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=WP_ppibrief - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
            5. Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 72.2, from 68.4 in September. - UP
            6. The Present Situation Index increased to 56.2 from 48.7. - UP
            7. The Expectations Index rose to 82.9 from 81.5 last month. – UP
            8. Current Employment Statistics - http://www.bls.gov/opub/ee/2012/ces/ces_new.htm - UP
            9. US Retail and Food Services Sales is at a current level of 412.94B, from 338.84B in January of 2009. – UP
            10. US Housing Starts is at a current level of 872K, from 490K in January of 2009. - UP
            11. Manufacturing & Trade Inventory & Sales - http://www.esa.doc.gov/economic-indicators/economic-indicators-4 - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
            12. S&P 500 Index - From 01/02/09 to Present gained 51.77% - UP

            So, there's an old saying that Mr. Romney needs to come to undersand, "If it ain't broken, don't try to fix it."

            • 2 votes
            #21.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

            National debt up an additional $6 trillion 2009 through August 2012.

            Record high number 46.37 million Amecicans receiving food stamps.

            Real unemployment between 22% & 25%

            Deficit over a trillion/year 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.

            The number of times our govenment almost shut down due to Obama's debt crisis - UP.

            • 3 votes
            #21.2 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:23 AM EST
            Reply

            OBOMBER SAY'S THIS IS ABOUT TRUST:

            He has failed liKe no other President before.

            He has lied like no other President Before.

            He has led America down a path of distruction like no other President before.

            He has promoted hate, race,class warfare like no other President before.

            He has devided America like no other President Before.

            He has stolen more tax payer money than any other President before.

            He has added 6 trillion more to the deficit in just 3 years like no other President before.

            He is responsible for highest poverty level since 1960’s like no other President before.

            He has sent 79 percent of the stimulus dollars to out sourced jobs like no other President before.

            He has promoted a War on Women like no other President before.

            He has put 23 million people out of work in less than 3 years like no other President before.

            He is a Racist like no other President before.

            He is a liar like no other President before.

            He is the biggest threat to America like no other President before.

            He lied to America & the World about the US Ambassador and 3 others killed in Libya like no other President before.

            He wants another 4 years to run American further into the ground with no jobs, no
            homes and no future.

            If Obama say's it's about Trust then Obama is finished on Nov, 6, 2012.

            America has seen enough of Scheme Obama.

            Vote Romney/Ryan on Nov. 6, 2012

            Someone American's can trust.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#22 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

            Lucky...Obama is the same racist as that Juan Williams on Fox News.

            • 1 vote
            #22.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

            Ummm...racist is Russ Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and and about 30 other Republican office holders who are on record for making racist comments...you must be a racist if you think Obama and Juan Williams are racists...they are the two middle of the road type black men...

            • 2 votes
            #22.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

            All economic indicators show strong and steady increases from their depressed state in 2008 and 2009. These increases represent a recovery that will last.

            1. Real GDP increased in the 3rd QTR by 2.0%, from 1.2% gains in 2nd QTR of 2012 - UP
            2. M2 Money Supply in Sept 2012 was 10126.9 Billion, from 7855.0 Billion in Nov. 2009 - UP
            3. CPI Consumer Price Index in Sept 2012 - 231.407, from 211.143 in Jan 2009 - UP
            4. Producer Price Index -http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=WP_ppibrief - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
            5. Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 72.2, from 68.4 in September. - UP
            6. The Present Situation Index increased to 56.2 from 48.7. - UP
            7. The Expectations Index rose to 82.9 from 81.5 last month. – UP
            8. Current Employment Statistics - http://www.bls.gov/opub/ee/2012/ces/ces_new.htm - UP
            9. US Retail and Food Services Sales is at a current level of 412.94B, from 338.84B in January of 2009. – UP
            10. US Housing Starts is at a current level of 872K, from 490K in January of 2009. - UP
            11. Manufacturing & Trade Inventory & Sales - http://www.esa.doc.gov/economic-indicators/economic-indicators-4 - You'll need to view and analyze the chart – UP
            12. S&P 500 Index - From 01/02/09 to Present gained 51.77% - UP

            So, there's an old saying that Mr. Romney needs to come to undersand, "If it ain't broken, don't try to fix it."

            Obama/Biden - 2012

            Clinton/????? - 2014

            • 1 vote
            #22.3 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 9:18 PM EDT

            We suddenly see a bit of improvement in these things just before the elections and you DON'T SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???? What was Obama doing over the past nearly 4 years, especially the first 2 years when he had Democrats in BOTH the Senate & the House??? I will bet that those numbers are about to go down again if he gets back in office because those false numbers cannot be sustained for any length of time...they are wavering right now and are NOT THE FINAL NUMBERS YET!!

            • 2 votes
            #22.4 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

            Thanks for that poorly spelled list of your personal opinions, lucky.

              #22.5 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

              Double J; one dumbazzed jarhead. 'Clinton/2014'

                #22.6 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:45 AM EST
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                @SingBiker,

                It's quite obvious that you are the one with a "Rocky Brain!" You can not just want "Trust," you have to earn it! Nuff, said! [:-)]

                • 2 votes
                Reply#23 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                Right on!

                  #23.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:27 PM EDT
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                  Lot's of desperate republicans and President Obama haters...

                  Please buy plenty of tissue's for all the whining, sobbing and to blow those dripping noses! Because the President is going to be reelected!

                  O&JOE Forward not back~~~~~ Out to enjoy the day!

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#24 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                  If Obama manages to "win" this election, it will be because of all of the young people who don't really remember all of the promises he made back then, the illegals that were given the vote along with "temporary citizenship", those on the streets that don't keep abreast of the news that Obama's people drive to the polls promising hot coffee/cocoa and donuts because they haven't had anything to eat for awhile (they basically sell their votes for something to eat) and; of course the die hard democrats looking for Obama to follow through on his 2008 promises that were not kept then and he doesn't intend to keep when/if elected this term either!!

                  • 2 votes
                  #24.1 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 12:44 AM EDT

                  President Obama has proven he can fight. Colin Powel said"Revenge is best when it's served cold"

                  America has spoken,above the bigotry. 4 more years. If the republicans wanted to win,they should have run a moderate,not a shape shifted,con artist. The trouble they have a cancer in the party. Tea baggers,liars,and white supremest. What a mix.

                    #24.2 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 8:39 AM EST
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                    Obama is busy some where in the country trying to blow smoke up America's asx for another 4 years.

                    Sorry Obomber.

                    America has already rejected you. Just waiting for Nov.
                    2012.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#25 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                    lucky ..amen.

                    • 4 votes
                    #25.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                    Ummm..lucky....it is November 2012!!!...wake the f%$k up!!!!

                    • 2 votes
                    #25.2 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:17 PM EDT
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