Ryan: 'We believe in change and hope'

Paul Ryan speaks at a campaign rally in Marietta, Ohio criticizing President Obama's economic policies and vision for the future.

 

MARIETTA, Ohio — Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan echoed Mitt Romney’s call to vote for “love of country” not out of “revenge,” seizing upon a line of President Barack Obama's

“Mitt Romney and I are asking you to vote out of love of country,” Ryan told a crowd at Marietta College. “That's what we do in this country. We don't believe in revenge. We believe in change and hope.”

Ryan was referencing remarks President Obama made Friday, also in the battleground state of Ohio, that voting against the GOP nominee is “the best revenge.”

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Romney’s running mate added Saturday morning, in the heart of coal country: “Look, in 2008 President Obama made all these lofty promises, it sounded so good. He said that we would have bi-partisanship, that he’d bridge the gap. He said he’d cut the deficit in half, that he’d get people working again, and he’d create jobs. You see all those jobs here in Marietta? Look, it sounded good and when he got elected people naturally expected him to deliver those results but it didn’t happen and look what we got.”

The Obama re-election campaign, in an email statement, claimed the GOP ticket is “willing to say anything to win, but their rhetoric just doesn’t match reality.”

With just three days to go before Election Day, it’s the final push for both campaigns and the state of Ohio is center stage.

Recommended: Ryan travels to Pennsylvania, trying to put state in play

According to the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released early Saturday morning, Obama holds a six-point advantage over Romney among likely voters, 51 percent to 45 percent, in the Buckeye State.

Related: Polls: Obama stays ahead in Ohio, deadlocked with Romney in Fla.

Romney and Ryan held their final campaign rally together before the Nov. 6 election in Ohio Friday night. They will both make several more appearances separately to the state over the next 72 hours in hopes of securing Ohio’s 18 electoral votes.

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I'm under 55 and I want the benefits of Medicare and Social Security that I've been paying into since I was 18. That's 37 years of taxes paid into this system and The Republicans think they can just replace it with a voucher??? I don't know about you but, the last thing I wanna do at age 65 (or 70 if the republicans get in) is shop for insurance...... At age 65, I will have paid into this system for 47 years like most of Romney's 47% of America. "Think About It....."

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Reply#29 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

IF you believe in hope and change then why have you and the rest of the goper gangsters done everything you can for the last 44 years to kill off all hope and obstruct change for the good.

Since the criminal Nixon defiled the White House you mobsters have done everything you can to destroy the middle class and REAL American ideals. You have pandered to the rich and committed some of the most heinous crimes against the American people imaginable.

The one true legacy every goper should take to the grave - the love of lying, the bigger the better.

I say we vote the republican thugs off the planet.

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Reply#30 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

Change as in Reversal of Progress???? Or "sike", we changed our minds about that system you've been paying into for 30 years???

I'm under 55 and I want the benefits of Medicare and Social Security that I've been paying into since I was 18. That's 37 years of taxes paid into this system by age 55 and The Republicans think they can just replace it with a voucher??? I don't know about you but, the last thing I wanna do at age 65 (or 70 if the republicans get in) is shop for insurance...... At age 65, I will have paid into this system for 47 years like most of Romney's 47% of America. Think about It!!!

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Reply#31 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

Im tired of hearing about the lack of bi-partisanship, or unfulfilled promises, and the likes. It's the most ridiculous argument from the right. How many republicans have been willing to work with the president? Their motto for the last four years has been no compromise. It's the most dishonest BS I've ever heard, to talk about what someone hasn't accomplished when your political agenda is to vote against everything or filibuster. The president didn't close Gitmo. No joke! Name one republican that was for it when the president tried. They sure will bring up the failed attempt though, yet deny the concerted effort to block that action. That is the political game the GOP has played throughout the entire past four years. And look how they even go after their own if one of them does work on an issue with the president. Look at how they're going at Christy right now. They're worse than a bunch of teenagers in a high school clique. And a lot of them are far less intelligent than middle schoolers. Look at the stars (or fallen stars) of their party. Bachmann. Palin. Akins. Look at how the republican base gravitates around these looney-tunes. These crazies couldn't pass a GED test with a cheat sheet. They're embarrassments as supposedly well educated adults. It's a disgrace that these people have had any part in government or the legislative process.

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Reply#32 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

Agreed - it's going to be sad to watch, after Obama wins again, all of them spewing more hate instead of learning their lessons from the past four years....

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#32.1 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:26 PM EDT
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So now they are using the hope and change slogan? They think we didn't notice that they merely reversed the order? Still trying to convince Americans that they care about all of us huh? Keep smiling rich people, there are a lot of goobers out there who may believe the lies. After all, Bush was reelected.

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Reply#33 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are both hoping for a change in their futures. Both know they are falling further behind and Jolting Joe Biden zings their camp with, "It’s Mitt Romney’s favorite time of the year -- because he gets to turn the clock back!"

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Reply#34 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

Yeah they believe in CHANGE and HOPE alright. When Romney lies and CHANGE his positions they HOPE you don't notice

    Reply#35 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

    GOP ticket is “willing to say anything to win, and rhetoric just doesn’t match reality.”

    You may be one of the 47%?????

    This is the Republican Party Today!!!

    Romney/Ryan funded by the Kock Brothers "Propaganda Machine"

    Kock Brothers "PROPAGANDA MACHINE" THE 3%

    The Republican Reformist Party!!
    Romney/Ryan are the founder and leader of the Republican Reformist Party!! and the most influential voice in the organization, the systematic extermination of the belief in America!! and the destruction of 50% of the American population by all means!!! Including the 47% who have no VOICE in POLITICS!!

    VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 4 for 44

      Reply#36 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

      Getting deluged with fraudulent hate mail from all directions. So, I asked one of my right wing brethren - "the logical consequences of a downward spiraling hate message is a civil war?" "Why are we doing this?"

      The blunt response.... "Because we have all the guns"

      Finally, after Citizens United, something makes sense.

      The right wing will take power anyway they can get it. Given the intense hatred this campaign is generating, I asked him if we could kindly forgo the torture (I am not a liberal, just believe in integrity in politics - or maybe that makes me a liberal) and just shoot me mercifully before dumping me in the trench.

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      Reply#37 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

      Yeah, right. Change back to the good old 1850's where slaves just LOVED the massa and women stayed barefoot and pregnant. Hope that white men without much skill but family money can once again rule the world!

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      Reply#38 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:57 PM EDT
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      We don't NEED OHIO... OHIO NEEDS US! The next time (boo hoo) Ohio is on the brink of bankruptcy... Follow Mitt's words... LET IT GO BANKRUPT... 1 in 8 jobs are tied to the auto industry... Ohio has NO GRATITUDE for this President. Let them go next time... maybe they will rethink their values which SUCK!

        Reply#39 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 8:57 PM EDT

        Ryan's hope and change is more and better change for the rich and no hope for the rest of us. He and Romney couldn't care less about hard working people, Tea Party folk included.

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        Reply#40 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
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        Updated for 11:00pm EST on Saturday, November 3, 2012:

        *** Spoiler alert: Today Obama made substantial gains in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, and Iowa while seeing his margins fall in Wisconsin and New Hampshire; Romney improved his position in Florida.

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        Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With less than 49 hours to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report that Obama holds increasing leads in eight of their 11 toss-up states while Romney clings to smaller and more static leads in the remaining three.

        In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 11:00pm EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:

        In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 5.0%, down from 5.4% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 94.2% chance of victory here, up by 0.9% from Friday and by an astounding 8.5% since Tuesday.

        In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 4.8%, up from 4.6% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.6% chance of victory here, up by 0.5% from Friday and by a respectable 2.5% since Tuesday.

        In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 4.0%, up from 3.5% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up 0.2% from Friday and by 0.5% since Tuesday.

        In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.9%, up from 2.6% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 83.8% chance of victory here, up by 3.1% from Friday and by an astonishing 10.5% since Tuesday.

        In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.7% chance of victory here, up by 1.5% from Friday and by an astounding 9.0% since Tuesday.

        In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.5%, up from 2.0% on Saturday morning. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.7% chance of victory here, down interestingly by 0.9% from Friday but up overall by a substantial 6.8% since Tuesday.

        In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 1.5%, down from 1.8% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.4% chance of victory here, up by 1.7% from Friday and by an astonishing 10.1% since Tuesday.

        In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 67.9% chance of victory here, up by 2.2% from Friday and by an astronomical 12.5% since Tuesday.

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        In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 0.3%, down from 0.5% on Friday. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here (and not Romney's) to 67.0%, up 2.2% from Friday. Nate Silver must be seeing something...

        In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 1.4%, up from 1.2% on Friday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 54.8% chance of victory here, but this margin is actually down a stunning 9.9% from Tuesday.

        It should be noted that RCP's average in Florida does appear to have been hyper-inflated by two recent outlier findings in favor of Romney, the first a 6.0% margin today from the unapologetically right-leaning Mason-Dixon Group with localized results for only the two cities of Tampa Bay (site of the 2012 RNC) and Miami (Marco Rubio stronghold), the second a 3.0% margin from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital, and an appreciably older finding by The Sunshine State News, an ultra-conservative website/blog which had Romney leading by 5.0% on October 24. Minus the influences of these extreme outliers, Romney's true lead is likely well under 1.0% and quite possibly closer to that of dead heat. Ah, Florida....

        In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 79.6% chance of victory here, down 0.3% from Friday.

        So...

        In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.8%, Michigan at 4.0%, Ohio at 2.9%, and Nevada at 2.7%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.

        However, should Obama fail to hold the strategic prize of Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:

        Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but holds the remaining three states where he presently leads, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.

        Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking only one state from among New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.

        Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:

        Path #3: Obama comes from behind to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.8%, and Michigan at 4.0%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.

        For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in at least one of the following possible combinations from states currently leaning Obama, listed in descending order of likelihood based on the reverse engineering of current FiveThirtyEight numbers for election night chances of victory:

        Path #1: 24.15% chance of Romney stealing both Ohio and Colorado, resulting in 275 electoral votes.

        Path #2: 17.90% chance of Romney stealing both Ohio and New Hampshire, resulting in 270 electoral votes.

        Path #3: 17.75% chance of Romney stealing both Pennsylvania and Colorado, resulting in 277 electoral votes.

        Path #4: 11.50% chance of Romney stealing both Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, resulting in 272 electoral votes.

        Working against each of these scenarios are rising averaged polling numbers over the past two days for Obama in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Colorado; in that same forty-eight hour period, only in New Hampshire has Romney succeeded in reducing Obama's margin, and that by a slight 0.3%.

        Perhaps somewhat mystifyingly, the Romney campaign continues to make pronouncements alluding to their having embraced the "Pennsylvania Strategy" included in Paths 3 and 4 above, the two paths which have the least likely chances of victory.

        So, is this a bold strategic maneuver on the part of Eric Fehrnstrom or a feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida? If the latter, based on published campaign schedules for key Democrat surrogates, it doesn't appear the Obama campaign is taking the bait.

        In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 1.5%, Iowa at 2.5%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.

        FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 83.7% (up markedly from Friday morning's 80.9%) and Romney 16.3% (down markedly from Friday's 19.1%).

        FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 305 (up 6 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 233 (down 6 from Wednesday's 239).

        Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.6% (up from Thursday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from Thursday's 48.6%).

        With less than 49 hours of campaigning to go, and with Friday's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.

        Remember to change the clocks tonight (Spring forward, Fall back), mow the yard tomorrow, and re-stock the 7-layer dip on Monday for an exhilarating night of television on Tuesday!

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        Reply#43 - Sat Nov 3, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

        Even if Liar Romney and Lyin Ryan weren't such LIARS, they still wouldn't have had a chance. The GOP once again scraped the bottom of the outhouse and these 2 are the only pieces of $hit they could come out with. GOP try again around 2024, because until then you don't have a chance at the White House.

        O&Joe 2012 ****Liar Romney 1040**** Where are them damn tax returns draft dodger???????

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        Reply#44 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:13 AM EST
        Nevada1050Deleted

        Nevada... watch the news much? LOL

          #44.2 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:17 PM EST
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          Suuuure they 'believe' in Hope and Change.....

          Roosevelt said it best about Lyin Ryan's Kind.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SUZGkNAUSvY

          Let me warn you and let me warn the nation against the smooth evasion that says

          "Of course we believe these things.

          We believe in Social Security.

          We believe in work for the unemployed.

          We believe in saving homes.

          Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things.

          But we do not like the way the present administration is doing them.

          Just turn them over to us.

          We will do all of them.

          We will do more of them.

          We will do them better.

          And most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything."

          Vote Obama/Biden 2012! Vote Straight Democrat! Send Lyin Ryan Packing!

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          Reply#46 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:15 AM EST

          He believes in hope and change... for the 1%. I rather keep the guy that believes in justice for ALL. Obama/Biden 2012.

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          Reply#47 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 9:43 AM EST

          Does Middle America honestly believe that Barack
          Obama is going to take Oprah Winfrey's money away
          from her, and give it to Middle Class America?
          Do you think Michael Jordan would support a president
          who was going to take away his money and give to You?
          Would P Diddy, George Clooney, Barbara Streisand or
          Brad Pitt honestly support a president who took their
          money and gave it to Middle Class America? You may
          like to Imagine they would, but would they?

          Quite the opposite, Barack Obama has taken your
          Middle Class America's tax dollars and given them
          to, count 'em, Wall Street Bankers, Wall Street
          Credit Card Hounds, and Wall Street Mortgage
          Brokers. How much bailout money did Barack Obama
          give Y O U ? If you got Barack Obama's bailout,
          then vote for him, if not...

          When I vote, I won't be voting for the man who gave
          away MY MONEY, I don't care how many Wall Street
          lawyers cried for it. Barack Obama may cut Middle
          Class America's fiscal throat, again, but I am NOT
          going to help him.

            Reply#48 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 11:57 AM EST

            How ignorant!!! Pitiful, pathetic, just like Twit and Lyin Ryan!

              #48.1 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:16 PM EST
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              Hope and change?

              Ryan even has to steal his catch phrase?

              Romney/Ryan are pathetic.

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              Reply#49 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 3:52 PM EST

              Gee.... where did that slogan come from? Hope and change, hope and change..... hmmmm. Hope that Obama wins and Twit and Lying Ryan will change medicare to a voucher system. That's about it! They stand for nothing but screwing Obama and our country. Remember, we have to wait until he's elected to find out their actual budget, tax changes, etc. I wouldn't trust Twit and Ryan with my dog, much less my life. They are two of a kind, lying, hateful, hyprocrites!

                Reply#50 - Sun Nov 4, 2012 4:12 PM EST
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