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MONTROSE, Colo. -- Just hours after the latest unemployment report was released Friday, Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan attacked President Barack Obama for not living up to his promise of getting more Americans back to work.
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"We just got the latest jobs report that voters are going to see before heading to the polls on Election Day. And what we saw today is that the unemployment rate is higher than the day that President Obama came into office," Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said. "We are 9 million jobs short than what he said he would accomplish. Look, in the president's campaign for another term, he has offered nothing different and if he is reelected, nothing different is exactly what we would get."
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The U.S. economy added 171,000 jobs in October, according to a Bureau of Labor Statistics Report, and the unemployment rate ticked up to 7.9 percent, still below the important psychological threshold of 8 percent.
GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney rallies in West Allis, Wisconsin criticizing President Obama failed policies.
In the shadows of the San Juan Mountains, Ryan told voters in the key battleground of Colorado to hold on for just another few days.
"Here’s what it comes down to: we can't afford to wait four more years for real change to get us on the right track. We only need to wait four more days. Four more days and we can do this. Four more days. Four more days and we can get this on the right track," he said at the Black Canyon Jet Center to a cheering crowd.
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The Friday morning rally marked Ryan’s 11th in the Centennial State where Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and Obama are in a dead heat to capture the state’s nine electoral votes. According to a CNN/ORC International poll released yesterday, Obama barely edges out Romney, 50 to 48 percent, among the state's likely voters. The two-point lead for Obama is within the polls margin of error.
Romney will hold two events in Colorado Saturday while Ryan returns on Sunday for an event in Castle Rock before Tuesday’s election.
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And you and your party voted which direction on the jobs bills for our Vets?
Yep...just go away you obstructionist, pledge signing VP candidate.
Why are Poor Lying (Paul Ryan) and GOP in general rooting against America - when the country is moving forward again after having sustained so much damages undfer 8 years of Bush and GOP policies...there is no going back
Foreward....
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Sure, Little Munster, You and your party + the Tea baggers are the loons who have NOT produced a single job since the Grimm Weeper said you would.
For the record, so far in 2012 btw it still has two months to go, the economy has created over 1.56 million jobs, which is already better than five of the eight years of the Bush/Cheney era and 2 year Tea bagger regime.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Hey, Beverly, I didn't get a chance to thank you for thinking of me before Hurricane Sandy hit!
We came through the storm fine, although our business is impacted by New York and New Jersey being out of commission. (And we feel for the folks who lost family, or homes.) I can't tell you how pleased I am with Mayor Bloomberg's endorsement of Obama. Bloomberg has also paid for campaign ads supporting Independent moderate senate candidate Angus King - a welcome bright spot in the negative media blitz smearing and attacking our popular former Governor. Thank you Mayor Bloomberg!
Why on earth are people voting for the R&R team when they are so anti-America?????
Obama/Biden 2012
Lyin Ryan, you should do a high five, since 'you built that', as an obstructionist member of Congress!
Be Proud!
Four More Days all right, four more days until Romney disappears from our TV screens, and returns to his mansion to watch the car elevator go up and down.
Obama/Biden 2012. Fired Up, Ready to Go!
While you and Willard are a few sandwiches short of a picnic!
johnny the "sheep" yes 4 more day's more of the lies , distortions and plain hatred that is the GOP
9 million jobs short eh?
Why, thats about how many jobs we lost during the recession.
and given the past 4 years of congress obstructionism, Ryan et all are surely patting themselves on the back for a job well done.
Go ahead republicans, VOTE for the ECONOMIC TERRORISTS - R&R
Amy B. Portland, ME
Hey, Beverly, I didn't get a chance to thank you for thinking of me before Hurricane Sandy hit!
Amy,
I always think of you. I have a girlfriend I went to Nursing School with whom she and I stayed in touch with until I moved 7 years ago. She moved there and wanted me to come visit because she said it's such a beautiful place.
I'm so glad you and your family weathered the storm okay. I'm also glad Mayor Bloomberg did too; particularity because of climate. We in the Midwest have been fairly lucky. But, you never know what can happen. I'm equally excited Star Bucks CEO endorsed our President.
Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, noted that President's "significant leadership" on the economy and world affairs are reasons for his decisions. Take that righties!
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Problem is the democratic sponsered bills always have extras tacked on that include tax hikes. Easy to say the bill was about jobs but if you want to be honest you should include everything in the bill
And to all you brainwashed libs, is spending $1.2 TRILLION a year that we don't have good for america? Talk about rooting against our country. Spending our kids future on phones for freeloaders, how dop you justify this?
WHEN ONE KID BULLIES ANOTHER, WE DON'T REWARD THE BULLY!
Lyin' Ryan is a BULLY, and now he's saying, "Don't punish me, punish the kid I bullied - he asked for it!"
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"GOP senators block top Obama jobs initiative"
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-19/politics/politics_senate-bring-jobs-home-bill-blocked_1_gop-senators-senate-republicans-jobs
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"Veterans' Jobs Bill Blocked"
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/veterans-jobs-bill-blocked-in-the-senate/
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VOTE DEM, STRAIGHT TICKET, O & JOE . . . . SO CONGRESS WILL WORK FOR US!
so the 2010 election was about jobs...Logically it would seem that those elected to get more jobs during that election cycle failed and not the President. Why was nothing done the last two years by those elected to do something?
Marquette University polling was the most accurate during the Wisconsin recall election.
Marquette University polling shows Obama with an 8 point lead.
They were also the ones who noticed a trend where 10% of those who voted for Walker also said they would vote for Obama on Nov. 6
Most polling in the Midwest has shown a trend toward Obama since the 3rd debate when Romney did terrible.
Obama/Biden 2012! No Lying Ryan or Flip Flop Romney! I am much better off than I was 4 years ago!
Note how R&R NEVER say HOW they will increase employment exactly. "TRUST US"
So Mr. "Lyan" how many jobs did YOU create in your SEVEN terms in Congress?
..........and Ryan is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
A month in which jobless claims RISE by .01% is NOT a good month, as FIRST READ and the Obama-Shama-Lama-Ding-Dongs on this message board would have you believe.
This garbage about the Vet's jobs bill is LAME too! You can't create jobs by simply passing a bill! That's why lawmakers like Ryan voted against it.
You must establish a stabilized economy in order for the private sector to create new jobs, and Obama-SHAMA-LAMA-DING-DONG has FAILED MISERABLY in his feeble attempts to do so.
That's why we need CHANGE and we need it NOW!
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!
The answer is easy dan austin. The repucs blocked the bills to create jobs so they would have an exscuse to say the President didnt do anything.
With all the stimulous money spent on shovel ready jobs, every American should be employed who wants a job, but instead we are stagnant. We need real leadership and a job creator in Washington, not a wanna be who has failed.
Randy, do you have any idea how many bills Reid has blocked in the Senate? He won't even let them come to the floor for discussion, let a lone for a vote. Again we need leadership in Washington and right now we have none.
FOUR MORE DAYS FOR 44
The 7.9% fails to include those who could not apply for unemployment after Sandy. That's 5 days out of the month not accounted for. The figure is meaningless.
So who exactly is listening to this guy?
Economy is improving, Al Qaida is decimated, Auto Industry is improving, manufacturing jobs are coming back. - All without Ryan's obstructionist republican ideologues.
If you do some research, the job bleeding didn't stop until July of 2010. That being said, Obama's claimed 5.5Million jobs came after that time. The effects of the 2010 election put the GOP controlled house in power. Now, THAT being said, the GOP stopping the bleeding GovCo checkbook and NOT passing anything that would cost money we didn't have and still don't, had no ill affect on jobs growing.
PJ: Where are you getting this crap from? Al Qaida is decimated? Economy improving? Auto industry? Manufacturing coming back? Who are you listening to?
Gil, more than likely Huffington Post or thinkprogress.
Republican hypocrites like Ryan have “Romnesia”. Who caused the horrendous unemployment in the first place? Republicans. Who got us into two unfunded wars? Republicans. Who took a budget surplus and turned it into a HUGE budget deficit? Republicans. Who more than doubled the national debt? Republicans. Who crashed the economy after getting rid of all the banking regulations? Republicans.
I could go on all day; these shameless jerks will say anything to get back in power so they can rape the economy again. I am amazed at how many Americans fall for their lies and deceit.
For the last three and a half years who's been successfully repairing the huge national disaster left behind by the Republicans? President Obama and the Democrats.
Anyone foolish enough to vote for any Republican is inviting another disaster into ALL of our lives.......Don't do it, vote for Democrats so they can finish fixing the Republican mess.
Omni, the way I see it is you are the freeloader, a poor excuse for a human being. You don't want to pay your fair share in a country that was founded on equality. You are a throw back to the slave owner actually. There is nothing more vile the a person that doesn't support their government. This means funding it. The question is, you want to deny people that that need the help even a small amount, when in fact you will willing fund a military whose sole purpose that last decade was wage war for the already rich. Then you want to call yourselves pro life. Well hopefully enough Americans are responsible enough to elect those that work for all people in this country and not just the few at the top of the food change. Jobs bills for veterans, don't care what else is in it. Don't care who put it there (yes republicans put stuff in bills that cost money too.) it should have passed. Raise tax on the top 2 percent after the first quarter mill isn't going to hurt them as much as starving a child who you consider a free loader. Four more for forty-four.
seems like the 2010 election was about jobs, jobs, jobs. More promises from the do nothing Congress that signed the Norquist pledge.
Jersey, if you're stagnant, perhaps you should consider an attitude adjustment? The rest of the country has come back from recession - almost 3 years of private sector job growth, stock market up 56%, housing starts up, manufacturing up.
There wouldn't be so many people out of work had it not been for 8 years of Bush/Cheney politics and people like Romney buying up companies, bankrupting them, laying of hundreds of thousands of people and shipping those jobs over to China.
I will remind everyone once again. The total wealth in the world is controlled by about 400 families. Everyone else is middle class. No matter how much you think you have, you do not have what it takes to make a pimple on these people's a$$! Do not kid yourself, they will break your back just as they plan to break the backs of the rest of the middle class. Lyin Ryan is the biggest narcissist to come along in American politics in years, and if you can't see that, then you have four days to open your eyes. They talk a wonderful line, but this country will be thrown into such a tailspin your heads will spin.
Praise for Obama and his leadership after the hurricane. Man can't prepare for everything. Romney was quoted as saying "cleaning up after Sandy was like cleaning up after a high school football game". Seriously? Doesn't anyone else see how of touch this man and Lyin are? Please think about what you are doing. You are NOT the one percent. Not even close. They WILL NOT TAKE CARE OF YOU! Only their elitist friends. Be warned.
Obama/Biden 2012
Say Snookie,
Why don't you remind us how much of the stimulus plan was in the form of tax cuts, dearie?
Take your time... we'll wait...
PJ: @1.24 - re: mine @ 1.26. It came to me -- you are listening to Chris Mathews.
Frankly speaking, the only thing "short" in this story is Mr. Ryan... 2 sandwiches short of a picnic, that is.
Feisty (Fishy): As usual you make no sense.
Then Willard goes away!
Romney and Ryan keep saying they can make MILLIONS of jobs..well since they are going to lose..you think they will help the USA and tell the president their secret on how to do it? ;)
Gil: Fiesty makes perfect sense. I don't know what your comprehension problem is, but it all makes perfect sense. Go pick on someone else.
@Talk to the Hand #1.25....So are you saying that the Republicans deserve credit for stopping the "job bleeding" in July 2010, 6 months before they took office? You do realize that the election was in November 2010 and that those elected took office in January 2011, right?
@edgewatervince...see the funny thing about that is now Romney/Ryan are shouting to the rooftops that the government doesn't create jobs. Which is strange considering "Jobs Jobs Jobs" was the Republican theme for the 2010 election cycle. Now we have Ryan bashing Obama on the jobs report when, according to him, government doesn't create jobs. I mean which is it? You guys cant have it both ways.
Talk to the Hand (#1.25) That is a blatant lie. The freefall in job losses was arrested in 09 and we were on a trend up, abet slowly, by the end of 2009 and into 2010. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Geo: If that makes sense study economics.
Yes, Saint Paul, we have lots of unemployed people. And that's why we need you to bring your Catholic Sharia law to America, banning abortions, creating even more unwanted children who won't find a job when they grow up. It all makes sense to me, Paulie-boy, just like Jerry in the basement with kiddies made sense to Sandusky's wife.
Obama-Biden 2012. Ryan wouldn't know how to create a job, hell, he's not going to keep the one he's got.
Gil-2872519
It all makes sense to me. Only the Uneducated Voter won't remember the republicons had to have more tax cuts to allow it to pass. If you spent half of your time investigating the truth about R/R you would never vote repub again.
Look in to the companies Romney bankrupted and put thousands out of work. His trips to China to buy factories to ship US jobs to. Take a look at what a Romney/Bain Business Model was. Please look at and read bills Ryan authored or co-authored, check out his voting record. See how many Bills he favored then voted against because Obama thought it was good for the country. Educate yourself about your own candidate first.
Updated as of 5:00pm EST on Friday, November 2 (Thank God It's Friday!):
Real Clear Politics (RCP) consistently has been the "go-to" source for accurate averaged daily polling data for both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS. With only 78 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, RCP continues to report Obama leading in eight of their 11 toss-up states with Romney leading in three.
In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 5:00pm EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:
In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has jumped to 5.0%, up from 3.7% Thursday afternoon. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 91.2% chance of victory here, up by a significant 5.5% from Tuesday.
In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.6%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 96.2% chance of victory here, up by 2.0% from Tuesday.
In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 3.5%, up from 3.0% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.6% chance of victory here, up by a slight 0.5% from Tuesday.
In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.7%, up from 2.4% early Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 87.7% chance of victory here, up by an astonishing 8.0% from Tuesday.
In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has settled today at 2.4%, up from Thursday's 2.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 80.5% chance of victory here, up by a substantial 7.2% from Tuesday.
In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 78.8% chance of victory here, up by a significant 4.9% from Tuesday.
In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.0%, up from 1.3% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 77.8% chance of victory here, up by a substantial 7.5% from Tuesday.
In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 1.0%, up from 0.9% Thursday. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 64.6% chance of victory here, up by an astonishing 9.2% from Tuesday.
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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 0.5%. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight increased Obama's chance of victory here, and NOT Romney's, to 66.4%, up by an astonishing 8.2% from Tuesday.
In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 1.2%. However, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 55.1% chance of victory here, surprisingly down by an astonishing 9.6% from Tuesday. It should be noted that RCP's average in this state has been inflated by a recent outlier finding in favor of Romney from Gravis Marketing, a polling firm funded in large part by BAIN Capital.
In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.8%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney an 79.9% chance of victory here, down by a slight 0.3% from Wednesday.
So...
In order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route would be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Michigan at 3.5%, Nevada at 2.7%, and Ohio at 2.4%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.
However, should Obama fail to hold Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently forecasting Obama victories:
Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but wins the remaining three states where he currently leads, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking New Hampshire, Iowa, OR Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.
Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:
Path #3: Obama comes from behind to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Wisconsin at 5.0%, Pennsylvania at 4.6%, and Michigan at 3.5%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal victories in both Colorado where Obama's lead rose yesterday to 0.9% and in either Ohio (where Obama's lead has settled today at 2.4%, up from Thursday's 2.3%) or in Pennsylvania (where Romney's campaign suggested earlier this week that Obama's significant lead of 4.6% may be vulnerable). By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275 or 277, respectively.
Romney's Pennsylvania strategy, however, may be a highly-marketed feint designed to counter Obama's anticipated re-allocation of campaign resources to a quantifiably softening political landscape in Florida.
In any event, should Romney fail to steal either Ohio or Pennsylvania he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 1.0%, New Hampshire at 2.0%, Iowa at 2.0%, and Nevada at 2.7%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.
FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 80.9% (up from Wednesday's 79.0%) and Romney 19.1% (down from Wednesday's 21.0%).
FiveThirtyEight now also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 303 (up by 4 from Wednesday's 299) and Romney 235 (down by 4 from Wednesday's 239).
Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.5% (up from Wednesday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.4% (down from yesterday's 48.6%).
With only 78 hours of campaigning left, and with this morning's published October jobs report playing to predictably mixed reviews (economy adding more jobs than expected; unemployment rate ticking up one tenth of one percent to 7.9%), holdout voters may now be left to nothing more than the proverbial 'feel in their gut' as Tuesday approaches.
TGIF, America. Go have a drink.
If I'm not too late, Gil, what Feisty was saying was that HALF of the stimulus was tax cuts, not for stimulus projects.
...I guess joethelib beat me to it.....
Thanks SMO!
I knew we had seen the last of Snookie on this thread!
She has a tendency to scurry off when asked to back up her irrational claims!
As for Gil... MEH!
Dime a dozen illiterate troll...
Let's have the race break for Obama, take all of those states he's already ahead in, plus Virginia and FLORIDA! \
That would be a kick in the pants--a shellacking if you will.
I don't hope to take the House, but to take back 10 or 15 seats would be a nice bonus. So much closer for 2014 when the economy is on it's feet again.
Republicans can't keep America submerged much longer!
Joethelib: How many trips to China did Romney Take? Your listening to Chris Mathews. R/R - I guess that means rest and relaxation as our POTUS has been doing for the last 4 years.
P.S. Tell Feisty to put her robo-voter away. It doubles her appearance as an idiot.
Now isn't it strange how they had to readjust the August employment upward due to a large mistake? What Republican was in charge of that gross error to give his poor choice of Romney more false lies and distortion for ammunition??? GOP is a really pathetic Party!!
Gil (Post # 1.50)
What planet of self made distortion are you getting your fabricated news from besides Fauxy News?? So typical of Republicans , who are out-of-touch with reality while wearing their "Rose Colored G;lasses"!!!!!!
Independant,
Your are so right the GOP are despicable and want to hurt the people of our great country.
Let's do whats right for our country and VOTE!!!
Obama/Biden all the way they care about people.
U6 numbers indicate a 14.6% unemployment rate. That is not an improvement. The writer who said passing a bill does not create jobs was absolutely correct. And the problem with the bill is there is no money to "provide" jobs for vets. And do you really think they want jobs working in the National Parks, etc? Just keep running up the debt. Just like the 100k STEM teachers. Where are they coming from? The county next door gets STEM teachers from the Phillopines. How does that help? Or are you going to wave the magic wand and just designate some teacher with no STEM education as a STEM teacher? That is what also goes on here in MD. An example is a teacher who worked as an aide after having graduated in elementary Ed. Fours to get a full teaching job and is suddenly a STEM teacher. Yuk!
Romney sounds like he's going communist, along with trats of Joseph Smith/Prophecies/White Horse prophecy.
Loose Cannon-6512284
@Talk to the Hand #1.25....So are you saying that the Republicans deserve credit for stopping the "job bleeding" in July 2010, 6 months before they took office? You do realize that the election was in November 2010 and that those elected took office in January 2011, right?
@Loose Cannon,
You do understand, I hope, not only has the rethugli-con party in the Senate been the most obstructionist in U.S. history but the rethug bots on here are so adept at rewriting history. They think if they scream it loud and long enough it becomes factual. What they don't understand is not everyone in this country is as stupid as they believe. It is a sad commentary about this country in that most, but not all, cons have proven the dumbing down of America is working.
So let them go on believing what they want. Tipping at windmills isn't going to change the fact their candidate is going to lose next Tuesday.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Yep - Obama and Biden - to finish what they started - A FAILED AMERICA. They don't know how to go "FORWARD".
Vote: Romney/Ryan
Willard knows the party is over........America is sick of the GOP lies, deception, smears and jeers.
GOP = FAIL
Obama 2012
Trick or Treat....Romney fooled his sheep!!!
Obama 2012
I don’t want an economic traitor for President.
And I know working families don’t want a President who profits from outsourcing American jobs to China. But it's happening right now. Workers at Sensata—owned by Bain Capital where Mitt Romney made his millions—in Freeport, IL are protesting outside their plant to stop their jobs from being offshored.
Mitt Romney’s buddies at Bain Capital have refused to save their jobs from being shipped overseas—and they even took down the American flag while forcing the Sensata workers to train their Chinese replacements.
Obama is the liar. He has no clue and resorts to name calling. Rev Wright, "this is the first time I am proud of my country MO", I saved the auto industry, ACHA will provide everyone with insurance but I cannot solve the high cost of medical care, I will hire 100,000 STEM teachers although I have to find them in other countries, etc.
Axlerod said, "Obama's speech comes from his LOINS", yes, loins- fitting as how we are getting screwed!
Hey Romney
WHERE ARE ALL YOUR TAX RETURNS FROM YOUR FOREIGN BANK ACCOUNTS
YOU TRATITOR!
John
No more 40 years of trickle down! No more 40 years of trickle down!
No more 40 years of trickle down! No more 40 years of trickle down!
No more 40 years of trickle down! No more 40 years of trickle down!
No more 40 years of trickle down! No more 40 years of trickle down!
We Can't Be A Rust Bucket no more
Can't speak for everyone obviously, but for me and my fellow contractors and subcontractor friends in telecom and communications engineering in Sacramento, and separately in Los Angeles, yes, we are doing relatively better now than we were four years ago.
Back in 2008, most of us were unemployed for losing our jobs, or pending unemployment for budget cuts. Now, all of us have jobs again, save for the few of us on early retirement due to health reasons or for the sake of their spouses relocating to different places in the nation where they're hiring again.
For half of us, not the best, but better than it was four years ago when uncertainty and worry ruled our minds as the Great Recession began in full-force in the last year of the G.W. Bush / Dick Cheney Administration, where "For Sale," signs because popping up like weeds in the suburbs, and the news of hundreds of people -- if not thousands of people being laid off in various companies -- began to be commonplace bits of front page news.
At least that sort of bad news has slowed down in frequency in the last 18 months. So yes, for myself and my circle of high-tech friends, we are doing better than compared to how it was, four years ago. Romney and Ryan though, want to turn the clock back to what seems to be the equivalent of some kind of mutated Cold War Era. My parents borderlining their retirement age, said they don't want to go back to those, "bad old days."
Game over.
Just saw a full page ad in our local paper paid for by the Billy Graham Evangelical Association endorsing Romney (of course, they could not say Romney's name because of their tax-exempt status, but it was the same thing as endorsing Romney). The picture of Mr. Graham in the ad was taken about 25 years ago and is not what the ailing preacher looks like today.
This sickens me to see a beloved man like Billy Graham used as a pawn by his own son, Franklin. Poor Billy is 94 years old and in ill health. I have followed his career for over half a century now and he would NEVER support someone he believed was a member of a cult like Mormonism. It goes against everything he ever believed and preached during his lifetime. He denounced these cults from the pulpit in his many crusades through the years and spoke out against their beliefs with no reservations.
Some may say that Billy Graham would be against gay marriage, too. Yes, he certainly is, but if he were able-bodied and in his right mind now, he would do the same thing he did to Nancy Reagan when she consulted astrologers while her husband was in office. Billy Graham called her personally and told her it was wrong. He would do the same thing to President Obama -- he would call him and tell him that he disagreed with him.
But Billy Graham would NEVER remove the language from his website that said Mormonism is a cult. It is a shame and disgrace that his son Franklin has sunk to such self-serving depths.
Billy Graham learned not to endorse any President after his mistake with Nixon, and he mentioned that in his autobiography. He became the friend of ALL Presidents, not just the ones that his greedy, money-loving ("oh, I didn't know that $500,000 was put into my retirement plan as a bonus"), attention-seeking, deceptive, wannabe son, Franklin, endorses.
I can be a republican politician too! "I'm going to create 1,000,000 new jobs by lowering the price of ink and creating that many new tattoo artists!
Still waiting the hows of how Romney and Lying Ryan are going to create 12,000,000 new jobs. their words come cheap, but no substance to back it up! All the "FACT Checks" I've looked at back up my fears and their big lies!
real american it is game over with the economy only getting 150k jobs per month. thats population growth and does nothing for the 20+ million looking for work or off part time.
Early voting in Ohio has the Dems 180k BEHIND 2008 pace and the Reps 80k AHEAD of their 2008 pace. Even with the high level of excitement for BO in 2008 he lost same day voting to McCain in Ohio. The early voting was 2 to 1 for BO in early votes in 2008 and just a narrow lead this time. IF... this trend holds it doesn't bode well for the Prez.
Ryan is a committed chameleon. If he cannot lie in front of a gullible audience, he has nothing to say. If not for the corruption of the GOP party between 2000 and 2008, our citizens would have more jobs. Ryan cannot lay this country's economic turmoil at the feet of Obama. Considering the horrific economic implosion that Obama inherited, our president has done a fantastic job of steering this country in the right direction.
Because of the GOP's lack of regulation of Wall Street, the Big Banks and Corporate America, we are 9 million jobs short.
President Obama has made a difference. Because of Obama's initiatives, our people now have The Affordable Care Act, the Lilly Ledbetter Act, the war in Iraq is over, Bin Laden is no longer a threat, we have an American automobile industry, the retention of low-interest student loan rates, an extension of the payroll tax credits for the middle class, and of course, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Yes, Americans, hold on for another few days. Hold on until our citizens can re-elect Obama to an earned and well-deserved 2nd term as Commander In Chief of this country.
Too many of our citizens are politically naive. The Red states such as Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana, Arkansas, West Virginia, and Kentucky need Obama the most. These red states are in desperate need of Obama's forward economic, political and social platforms.
Hopefully, after Tuesday's election, in defeat Romney and Ryan will retreat to their narrow-minded political corners.
Democrats, Independents, Disaffected Republicans get out and vote for Obama and Biden!
Obama/Biden 2012!
25 Walker, it wasn't the GOP's lack of regulation that caused the mortgage meltdown. Look up Brooksly Born that tried to do this (regulate derivitives) under the Clinton Admin in 1996 i believe. The biggest proponent to block her proposed regulations was from Larry Summers from the Administartion. Also backed by Robert Rubin and the SEC chairman(can't remember name off hand). Those were all DEMOCRATS, and there is senate committee testimony from them shutting her down.
Getting out of Iraq wasn't a BO initiative. It was done 8 years prior in a written timeline agreement from Bush, just before Obama was even a Senator. BO just followed the timeline.
You will have to link me to Obamas plan for SS and Medicare as i have never seen one.
Spelled "Brooksley" actually. History .... she was head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission when she was trying to propose derivative regulation in 1996.
The President's efforts to solve our unemployment problem and to control the deficit have not worked. The President's economic plan for the next four years is devoid of detail and budget and is mathematically impossible.
The Obama administration document on the stimulus stated what the stimulus was designed to do. According to that document if the stimulus were passed unemployment would not go above 8%. That did not happen. The Obama administration created and used this document to sell the stimulus spending bill as the solution to the nations unemployment problems. The stimulus did not solve our unemployment problem. According to that official administration document if the stimulus did its job as it was designed then unemployment should now be well below 6%. Furthermore, if the stimulus bill had done its job then the President would not have to propose a second stimulus. The numbers in that document were not presented as speculation, they were presented as specification. This official Obama administration document said what the stimulus was going to do. Clearly what the Obama administration said would happen did not happen.
To me, reelecting the President means 4 more years of the same just hoping that things change. The President's new program to fix the the economy is just more of his same on going program to fix the economy. My biggest concern is all of the debt that has been building up. I estimate that an additional 5 trillion dollars of debt will end up costing the tax payers 50 trillion dollars to repay in 180 years. I agree with the President when he stated:
And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.
Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006
I would be interested in knowing what percentage of jobs are taken by a) foreigners and b) foreigners who have the job because they are more qualified than an American-born citizen qualified for the same position. Overpopulation, foreign immigrants, out$ourcing and automation all play into the picture. Unfortunately, none of those are going away anytime soon.
The Romney plan, here was one of them:
Typical lies and deceptions.
Of course Romney wanted GM to go bankrupt.
There was no "private" money available to save GM and so there would be a liquidation.
All warranties void, all dealers out of business, all parts suppliers out of business, millions of workers out of jobs.
Who benefits? Vulture capitalists like Romney's Bain.
Buy up the assets for pennies on the dollar. Sell the patents, sell the manufacturing equipment. Make millions on the blood of the laid off employees of all those companies who made up the auto industry. And make no mistake; even Ford admitted that if the suppliers went out of business they would have folded too. If you think this is the "American Way" you need to go somewhere else to live.
It's a disgrace to all those Americans who have sacrificed for the good of the entire country, not just a few greedy pigs.
OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!
Enough of the GOP lies and spin............. The Republicans got us into this mess not the Democrats so why don't all you right wing trolls and fox news junkies shut the hell up and leave the rest of us that are NOT mentally ill in peace.
Right now what America needs most is a Democratic house, a Democratic filibuster proof Senate, and President Obama in the White House……. DEMOCRATS VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigATC,
Your statement is another "whopper" from the right.
Emphatically, every reputable economist has stated that it was the lack of regualation between 2000 and 2008, that collapsed our economy. The previous administration had a "look the other way" policy and the GOP administration turned a "blind eye" to Wall Street's reckless and fraudulent financial instruments." The Republicans are the party of block and defeat. Every legislative act that President Obama has proposed to put our citizens back to work has been blocked by unpatriotic GOP politicians.
Ryan is lambasting Obama's record on reducting our unemployment rate.
Hypocritically, Ryan has voted against every bill that would put our citizens and veterans back to work.
In January 2009, 12 politicans vowed to block all of Obama's efforts to save this country.
Guess who was among the above "guest" list?" Paul Ryan.
The above politicans'were ALL REPUBLICANS and their goal was to make Obama a "one-term" president.
Getting out of Iraq was an Obama initiative.
When Bush left office, there were thousands of American troops in Iraq.
Under Obama, there are now zero troops.
Bush would not have followed his own "timetable."
The GOP's does not have positive domestic agenda. The party like wars.
Obama has steered many of own independent initiatives. This is the reason that our economy is improving.
Social Security and Medicare still exist in their traditional forms.
The existence of the above programs is the best testimony to Obama's committment to these saftey nets.
Obama/Biden 2012, America's only chance for economic survival!
BigATC,
With the critical issues facing this country, it does not matter which way you spell Brooksley. The GOP is spelled: "We are for the 1%, forget the middle class and the poor!."
What did Mitt tell the SEC about his employment at Bain?
25 ... The Reps did try through Fannie and Freddie regulation to get all the real estate mess under control. Go to youtube " fannie freddie congress 2004" and listen to the floor debate and you will hear the dems basically telling the reps they are full of it trying to regulate Fannie/Freddie.
The end result 25 ....... in 2005 the Dems in the Senate filibustered a bill that would have regulated that. Including then freshman senator Obama.
Thats twice if you are keeping count 25 that the Dems killed attempts at regulating derivatives and Fannie/Freddie. In 1996 and in 2005. But then i'm sure you could care less to look up actual events and attempts that were stopped by Democrats.
Also 25, Iraq had cabinet approval with the Bush Administration on Nov 16, 2008 for withdrawal timelines. It was approved by the Iraqi Presidential council on Dec 4, 2008. BEFORE BO was in office.
The timelines were ... out of the cities by June 30,2009 and out of Iraq by Dec 31, 2011.... which is when we left. Do you bother looking anything at all up or you just like to espouse things you want to be true? I give you actual dates, times, people ... and you , Big Al and the bunch just say "spins and lies, spins and lies" LOL
After Tuesday we will see the last of the gruesome twosome of Romney/Ryan:
R.I.P., Mitt Romney
by Robert Shrum Nov 2, 2012 3:20 PM EDT
Mitt made multiple mistakes that will lead to his defeat on Tuesday. Some of them date all the way back to 2008.
The campaign has come down to a race between Mitt’s media and Mitt’s mistakes—and the mistakes are winning.
We have now crossed the billion dollar mark in ad purchases. In Ohio alone, the two sides, Super PACs and all, are spending $30 million in the closing week—and in the battleground states overall, Romney forces are outspending Obama by $30 million.
But the contest is not as unbalanced as the numbers. The Obama money goes further because more of the total buy has been placed by the campaign itself, which by law pays less for television time than outside groups. Obama’s strategists also got more for less than the Romney enterprise by buying well in advance, when the so-called lowest unit rate was lower. In any event, the airwaves in the swing states are saturated. The Thursday before the election, the noon news on the CBS station in Columbus, Ohio, featured 22 political spots one after another. A lot of it, perhaps most of it, is so much electoral wallpaper.
What matters more is what happened months or even years ago, when Mitt Romney inflicted serial damage on himself that can’t be wiped away by a last-minute ad barrage or a barnstorming tour through the final hours.
Go all the way back to Nov. 18, 2008, when Romney wrote that op-ed in The New York Times headlined: “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.” Few pieces have had as long or relevant a political life. Michigan, Mitt’s original home state, and Ohio, home to 850,000 auto industry-related jobs, have proved stubbornly resistant to a Republican nominee who seems so conspicuously hostile to their livelihoods. If the President carries both states, Romney’s prospects next Tuesday look about as promising as the Edsel’s in the 1950s. For those too young to remember it, the car was a landmark flop. Wikipedia offers a commonly accepted explanation: it was “a supreme example of the corporate culture’s failure to understand American consumers.”
Romney’s op-ed was a supreme example of a corporate guy’s failure to understand American voters. He can quibble that he favored “a managed bankruptcy”—without the use of federal funds. The Obama campaign—and most experts—respond that in the depth of the financial crisis, there was no private capital available to keep the auto companies in business while they were reorganized. That’s true, but almost beside the point. What’s indelible, immediately apprehensible, persistently top-of-mind is the headline itself. Romney could have claimed he didn’t write it; he didn’t. He could have argued it wasn’t what he meant. Instead, he doubled down, telling an interviewer: “That’s exactly what I said—the headline you read—‘Let Detroit GoBankrupt.’”
In a last-ditch attempt to crack Ohio and Michigan, Romney has now resorted to advertising an outright lie—that Chrysler’s Jeep division will soon move its jobs from the United States to China. The media has debunked the fiction, which was borrowed from the fantasy precincts of the rightwing blogs. The Detroit press called it “false” in a news story— not just on the editorial page. TV stations have scorned the Romney spot—at times, pre-emptively refuting it just before it airs. When Bozo the Trump tweeted the lie, a Chrysler Vice President swiftly tweeted back: “You are full of @!$%#.” The Obama response ad was easy to make, entirely believable—and of course, showed a grimly grinning Romney letting Detroit go bankrupt. Maybe he’s created a new watchword and a warning for Presidential politics: Would that mine opponent would write an op-ed.
Now fast forward nearly four years to last summer in a second, probably fateful Mitt mistake. It fits with the first one—and reinforces the narrative of an out-of-touch, plutocratic candidate who doesn’t care about working families or the middle class. Romney let the Obama campaign pummel and define him as the profiteering-job destroyer from Bain. Eighteen years after this attack shattered his Senate bid against Ted Kennedy, you would think Mitt had an answer other than nostrums about “free-enterprise.” The fact that he didn’t offer one suggests that there isn’t a convincing one. When he was asked on CBS, he simply brushed the question aside: the President is “grasping at any straw he can find.”
After a summer of dithering, the Romney campaign fled to relatively contentless website www.sterlingbusinesscareer.com defending his tenure at Bain. This is an inexplicable case of lame and latter-day rather than rapid response. According to Politico, the site has attracted “far fewer than the number of eyeballs on the Bain attacks on the airwaves.” Ceding the ground here left Romney’s favorable-unfavorable rates upside down with swing voters from Las Vegas to Toledo— and left him with a steep hill to climb. Even as he made progress, which he finally did, he has been struggling to erase the deficit.
The struggle intensified when he selected Paul Ryan as his running mate instead of the safer, Ohio-friendly Senator Rob Portman—the choice of most of Romney’s advisers. Ryan, who has proposed to replace Medicare with Vouchercare, instantly threatened the nominee’s margin with seniors, who are essential to assembling a barely sufficient GOP coalition. Some Republicans rejoice that their vulnerability here has been blunted by charging—falsely by the way—that Obamacare cut more than $700 billion from Medicare (the cuts were in excessive payments to entities like insurance companies.) But the GOP campaign has had to spend time and millions of dollars on this—and the hard evidence suggests that for them the battle is being lost. The latest Democracy Corps survey reports: “[On] Medicare … Obama [is] trusted by 14 points over Romney in the states where the issue has been contested in advertising from both sides.”
If the Republicans lose Florida—and when Obama holds on to senior-rich Pennsylvania, Mitt’s last, least hope—put it down to the Ryan mistake. The choice didn’t even achieve one effect its champions insistently predicted— that it would energize the sanforized Romney. Instead of Romney being Ryanized, Ryan has been Romneyized. He’s become a bland non-presence—which, given the sharp edge of his views, may be the better part of rightwing valour.
Then came other big mistakes, interrupted by one notable success.
The convention, which was supposed to introduce and humanize the Republican nominee on its last night, morphed into a Saturday Night Live skit. It was an elementary failure of event planning to let an unscripted Clint Eastwood conduct a farcical debate with an empty chair- and then to push real-people testimonials to Romney’s character out of prime time so Florida Sen. Marco Rubio could talk more about himself than Mitt. There was no bounce—and a marked decline for the Republican nominee after a bravura Democratic Convention a week later in Charlotte.
If the Obama of the second debate had showed up to the first, the election would have been over then and there. But he didn’t; it was his mistake and Romney’s singular moment. But the Republican seemed to have no coherent plan for his second and third encounters with the President other than insisting that the race was simply a referendum: If you’re kind of dissatisfied with the economy, give me a try; after all, I am in the midst of a moderate makeover. This typifies the pervasive error of the Romney strategy. The Obama forces cast the election as a choice: who’s on your side—on tax fairness, on fighting for the middle class, on equality for women and all Americans, on decency towards immigrants? The President vigorously prosecuted his case in the last two debates- and Romney ended up on the wrong side on choice after choice.
I had predicted that Mitt could win the first debate—and he clearly did. But I arguedthat this would not change the structure of the race unless Obama stumbled again—and he didn’t. The Romney “momentum,” which was less than it was cracked up to be, has long since stopped for all but the delusional and disingenuous Dick Morris, the turncoat Clinton adviser who laughably foresees a Romney “landslide.” I guess this is what Rupert Murdoch pays him for; at least, Morris could have gotten the electoral votes right for the states he mentioned. Karl Rove, now also of Fox, has offered up more modulated happy-talk. But as Romney desperately reaches for Pennsylvania and Minnesota, virtually no one believes the spin—apparently not even Newt Gingrich, whose blog slipped up and posted a prediction that “Obama is going to win.”
Romney’s colossal mistake on Libya in the second debate also prepared the way for the real October surprise, the bromance between the President and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Mitt was slapped down for politicizing Libya in that debate—and reproved by moderator Candy Crowley for being outright wrong on whether Obama had called the attack an “act of terror.” The GOP nominee refused to venture back into the controversy the next time the two candidates met. He had disabled himself; despite the fevered advice of the neocons, and the relentless conspiracy-mongering of the embittered John McCain, Romney was quiescent. And the real issue at stake wasn’t just foreign policy, where Obama is far ahead, but ultimately the quality and character of his Presidential leadership. The response to Hurricane Sandy was the sequel— and the President’s most powerful and persistent validator was Romney’s convention keynoter, Chris Christie. He showered praise on Obama as “wonderful”—and added: “If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics, then you don’t know me.”
I think I know who’s going to win when I hear the bloviating Rush Limbaugh denounces Christie as “a Greek column” for Obama’s reelection. And you can measure the desperation of the Romney Campaign not only in his sudden apparition in Pennsylvania—if he can’t make it in Ohio, he has to try somewhere else—but in the race-baiting of the bumptious John Sununu, Romney’s co-chair, who attributed Colin Powell’s endorsement of the President to the fact that they’re both African-Americans.
Whether this was intentional or a mistake, it was plainly shameful. And as I have argued before, it was a mistake for Mitt’s strategists to invest so much in the wallpaper of late advertising while neglecting field organization—where Obama has a deep-rooted and potentially decisive edge.
Finally, Romney made some unavoidable mistakes embedded in the DNA of today’s GOP. He assumed, correctly, that in the primaries he had to pander on social issues to the religious right— and on immigration to a party that has become the modern incarnation of nativism. He can plead in mitigation that he had no choice—and if that is so, look for another Republican defeat in 2016. On Nov. 7, Romney may be asking himself: What does it profit a Mitt to gain a nomination and lose his chance to make history in the White House?
Still, the fault is not just in his party but in himself. The Romney campaign has been a trail of missteps—and the Obama managers masterfully took advantage of this and took control of the race. So let’s thank Mitt for making his own mistakes. As we may have noticed, he’s very good at it. Romney—R.I.P.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/02/r-i-p-mitt-romney.html
25, i'm curious you say the republicans are the party of no and defeat...... what is your take on the democrats blocking regulation of Fannie/Freddie in 2005 through filibuster?
Before Romney "goes quietly into the night".He has one more trick to try and pull. Don't fall for it guys:
Michael Tomasky on Mitt Romney’s Closing Con Game
by Michael Tomasky Oct 30, 2012 4:45 AM EDT
Mitt Romney’s latest political ad makes it clear that he’s trying to portray himself as a uniter who will heal the divisions of the Obama years. Don’t believe it for a second.
So one of Mitt Romney’s closing plays is that he’s the great conciliator. He released an ad several days ago and has been hitting the theme ever since, arguing that we need (as Romney said in the first debate, quoted in the ad) “leadership that … could not care less if it’s a Republican or a Democrat” that said leader is working with. With this, Romney makes the full leap into Orwell-land, but with signs that some folks actually buy or at the very least want very much to believe this, it’s important to point out to those voters the precise nature of this con game.
Presidential candidates always promise that they’re going to change the tone in Washington. They have to. The media demand it. Polls show them that independent and swing voters (two different things, really; the latter is a subset of the former) yearn for it. Their advisers tell them that’s how they win over the undecideds. Also, and crucially, they come equipped with egos that permit them to convince themselves that they are unique among men, and they can indeed change this “tone.”
Barack Obama ventured further than most down this boulevard of broken dreams. He had an analysis, you see: The right hated the Clintons because of certain things the Clintons represented about the ’60s because the Clintons were products of that generation. Since Obama wasn’t a product of that generation, it wouldn’t be so bad for him. He believed it. I believed it too. In a career sprinkled with its share of shoddy predictions, I think that one may have been my worst.
While Obama and I were believing—on Inauguration Day 2009, say—that things would be different, key Republicans were meeting in a restaurant not far from the very mall where the celebrations had taken place that day. They agreed, wrote Robert Draper in his book Do Not Ask What Good We Do, that very night to oppose Obama with all they had. Within the month, the Tea Party movement was born, and compromise with Obama became the moral equivalent of shaking hands with the devil.
The particulars of the ongoing opposition are well-known enough that I needn’t rehearse them all. Suffice it to say that the GOP of this Congress set records on Senate filibusters real and threatened, and en bloc (or almost en bloc) no votes. There’s never been a Congress like these past two, especially since the GOP took over the House.
Obama has tried from the start. The stimulus bill was about 38 percent tax cuts. You’d think Republicans might have gone for that. The individual mandate came from the Heritage Foundation. He cut payroll taxes (Republicans did end support for that, but only after the ludicrousness of their initial opposition to a tax cut became too much to endure). And more. But they said no every step of the way—even breaking from the precedent of Congress raising the debt limit more than 70 times since the 1940s. Now it was deemed acceptable to tie that increase to other matters and even, for the first time in history, to filibuster it.
No, no, no, no, no. And then, come 2012, they turn around and say, “See? Obama failed to unite this country.” They say it’s because he pursued a hard-left agenda, but that’s not true and they know it’s not true. What they know to be true is that most centrist voters will believe them, because the mood in Washington is still toxic and the president promised to fix that, by cracky.
All of that, we’ve known. But now comes the new twist. Now Romney gets to come in and say, “I will be a conciliator.” Perversely, there is a potential grain of truth to the claim, but only because Democrats in opposition don’t behave in the Leninist fashion that Republicans do. (I have demonstrated this numerically—41 percent of congressional Democrats supported George W. Bush on his four major legislative initiatives, while 6 percent of Republicans backed Obama on his top four). But bear in mind it’s going to be a very strange definition of “conciliation.” What Republicans generally mean by “working across the aisle” is terrifying just enough Democrats from red states and districts into supporting their initiatives and destroying them if they fail to, like the old ads from 2002 that impugned the patriotism of Georgia Sen. Max Cleland, who left three limbs in Vietnam but opposed Bush’s war in Iraq.
And the final note that takes us into full surrealism. Republicans know very well that Obama can’t say any of this during election time because he’d sound “whiny” and will be admitting “failure” at the task of uniting the country. This is really the Ministry of Reality Suppression at work, and why I wish Mr. Orwell were around to see it.
He’d know it well, because it is, in fact, a very communist (small c) mindset, about which Orwell wrote in the Spanish context if not others: act obstreperously and disruptively, create conditions that make it impossible for the bourgeois or reformist party to succeed, and then turn around and blame the reformist party for the resulting failures. And then sit back and laugh if the reformists try to point this out and attack them as weak. It’s one of the oldest tricks in the ideological book, and it’s hostage-taking, basically, and our system of government—especially the rules of the Senate, where a minority of 40 has the power of a majority—permits it.
It must infuriate Obama that all this is true, and it must infuriate him further that, if he does win, he will still have to extend olive branches, because he will be the president and that is what people expect of the president. In the future, I hope no Democrat ever again promises to change the tone in Washington. “I’ll try,” Democrats should say. “But it takes two to tango on this.” Then at least the public might fix the blame for this problem where it so richly belongs.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/30/michael-tomasky-on-mitt-romney-s-closing-con-game.html
Keep lying to yourselves by enjoying all your part time jobs. And I'm not just talking about the holiday shopping season, but the explosion of part time positions since 2009.
The unemployment PLUS underemployment rate is still above 14%.
You guys are so troubled, so incredibly toxic not just to yourselves but this country due to your either willful or involuntary ignorance, it doesn't matter.
It takes a very especially psychotic person to place part time jobs and lower wage full time jobs in the same value as full-time jobs.
And that makes 90% of the people in this thread psychotic. But of course, sane people know how screwed up this site is and the ideologues like Feisty and BigAl and Beverly (who is such a vile person who uses disgusting, perverted, derogatory terms like Tea Bagger which speaks volumes about her character) to the point that the only reason a healthy human being comes here is to remind us of how inhumane we can become if we allow ourselves to get sucked into progressivism.
And you know how you can prove you guys are psychotic, because there isn't a single rational counter you can make to debate me about the stats on part time jobs. Instead, all you can do is deflect and derail into something else. And that's exactly what you'll do.
http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/files/documents/CRSTaxesandtheEconomy%20Top%20Rates.pdf
A detailed report by the independent and unimpeachable Congressional Research Service that was NOT published due to heavy GOP pressure.
Why? Because it says EXACTLT what I've been saying for months... that tax cuts for the rich DO NOT help the economy and, in fact, only cause a wider disparity between the rich and the middle class.
Tax cuts at the top ENCOURAGES executives to remove money from the business and tuck it away in off-shore accounts.
Tax cuts at the top DISCOURAGES executives to reinvest profits back into the business.
Shall I go one?
The GOP shut down this report because it refutes the GOP "meaning of life". It absolutely KILLS Romney's economic "plan" and exposes it as a total farce.
What say you Republicans?
BigATC,
Your attempt to spin the facts and lay the real estate mess at the doorsteps of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac has failed. Both of these government loan servers were small and late "participants" in the GOP, Wall Street, Big Bank and Corporate America created financial debacle.
It was the private, for profit, lending institutions that charted and blazed the path of economic destruction in the mortgage collapse and housing bubble. Many of the private banks abandoned the guidelines set by the government servers. Deliberately, the big banks issued sub-prime loans to mortgagees that these institutions knew could not afford the future terms and payments.
From 2000-2008, concerning the financial markets, the party of greed "hands off" policy allowed the American economy to be tossed onto the "casino tables."
The end result is that the American people lost their homes.
The private sector banks caused our economic
depressionrecession. Any bill that was passed would not have effected the private sector banks.Ryan has been a chief obstructionist in preventing America's economic recovery.
What Iraq cabinet approved the Bush's war to look for "weapons of mass destruction?"
Time lines mean nothing to the GOP. Romney is not the president. Yet, he is "searching" for a new war.
Here is an example of a miraculous spin:
Romney's "explanation" of his videotaped statement about the "47%."
During Obama's presidency, you are free to name 5 positive achievements by GOP.
Your above question has been answered.
Please answer this question:
Without smashing the middle class and crushing the poor, how can Romney cut 5 Trillion dollars in taxes?
Obama/Biden 2012, for the survival of America!
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/11/dish-check-who-caused-the-financial-collapse-not-fannie-and-freddie.html
BigATC,
Is not Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama terrific!
http://www.barackobama.com/share/forward-colin-powell-endorses/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=Colin+Powell+former+Secretary+of+State+and+chairman+of+the+Joint+Chiefs+of+Staff&utm_campaign=em12_20121102_ft_act&source=em12_20121102_ft_act
Just highlighting another EPIC FAIL of our curent President. Thanks Paul for speaking the truth, although the liberals can't handle the Truth!
Independents for Romey/Ryan 2012
If you didn't get to see Piers Morgan last night, hope you can catch a rerun of his interview with Rudy Guiliani. Mr. Guiliani was dissing the President for allegedly mishandling the Benghazi attack, and suddenly during his interview, General Wesley Clark (who had been interviewed earlier), asked if he could address Rudy, and the show's producers put him on. It was priceless to watch.
Rudy Guiliani was obviously stunned to suddenly have an honored military expert like General Clark appear on screen and contradict everything that Mr. Giluiani was saying, and the General also pointed out how wrong it was for people to politicize the Benghazi attack, and how the Democrats did not politicize a tragedy like 9/11 on the day of the attack, or the day after, or the week after, or the month after ... etc.
Rudy shot back his same rhetoric and then pulled his earplug out and walked off camera.
He knew he was outmatched!
Paul Ryan is living proof that ignorance and arrogance now control the Grand Old Party. What a shame and loss for ALL Americans. The Party of Lincoln has become the Party of STINK'IN! Make no mistake, Paul Ryan and his Tea Party coharts now DICTATE to Mitt Romney and the centrists in the GOP! If elected Mitt will be their 'controlled puppet'!
I attest to your observations as I've met Paul "Lying" Ryan here in Janeville at his town meeting where he walked out when he couldn't explain where the $5,000,000,000,000 in revenue was coming from with his "Plan to Ruin America!" to pay off the debt. He also, couldn't defend that he voted to spend $4,000,000,000,000 for bush's lost wars in Afghanistan and Iraq!
So, Rep. Ryan says "we can't wait four more years" when Gov. Romney said it would take him 8 - 10 years to turn the economy around.
What part of this makes sense?
Matthew ...
None of it.
This election year is going to be studied for YEARS to come. Our grandchildren are going to ask questions that will go without answers, namely, how many people actually voted for such a pair of liars and why?????
Obama-Biden 2012
As of 2. p.m. Princeton number crunchers have it as
Obama 319
Romney 219
Me 0
Balanced budget in 8. Economy much less time
TTTH ... Not according to Eric Fehrnstrom ...
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/19/711041/romney-campaign-backing-off-balance-budget/?mobile=nc
Obama/Biden 2012
Talk to the Hand: WRONG. Balanced budget by 2030's. That's why the budget makes no sense.
Wall Street and Main Street have confidence in Romney, he is a proven leader. They have no confidence in Obama which is why this country is stagnant.
Thats exactly why Lyin Ryan shouldn't open his big mouth , unless his master (romney) tells him. The little wimp should go crawl in a hole where all weasels belong. This guy is suppose to be the GOP future. Well I guess they have no future. Because he's a little clown, trying to play under the big top.
Maybe Wall street, not Main street.
Jersy Girl - Romney couldn't lead a slow moving group of turtles across a two lane country road. He has NO leadership skills at all and only appeals to those who don't know real leadership!
And, Wall Street has GREAT confidence in President Obama since the stock market has come back so well!
Obama/Biden 2012
Did you see the latest Wrongme mis-step????
http://en.ria.ru/world/20121102/177151497.html
Matt Romney is Senior VP of a real estate investment firm. How nice to be born on third base, huh? ( I had to quote a bit)
“It is a harmless trip,” said Greg Davis of Excel Trust, a real estate investment firm based in the state of California where Matt Romney works as a senior vice president.
“It was a trip that has been planned for some time,” Davis told the Times. “Any travel they’ve done on behalf of Excel is strictly on the private side. It would have nothing to do with anything governmental.”
But a week before the US presidential election, the trip is noteworthy, in part because the elder Romney has been openly critical of US-Russian relations under President Obama as well as Russia’s domestic policies, and has vowed to take a tougher stance on the Kremlin if he’s elected.
"Under my administration, our friends will see more loyalty, and Mr. Putin will see a little less flexibility and more backbone," Mitt Romney said at the Republican National Convention in August.
Romney has long been critical of Obama’s stance on Russia, telling CNN, “The actions he's taken so far, which he says are to reset relations with Russia have not worked out at all.”
“Russia continues to support Syria. It supports Iran, has… fought us with the crippling sanctions we wanted to have the world put in place against Iran,” he said in the interview. “Russia is not a friendly character on the world stage.”
And in last month’s final presidential debate Mitt Romney said, “I’m not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to Russia or Mr. Putin.”
The Times reports the younger Romney sought to deliver a message to Putin this week that if elected, his father wants a good relationship between the two countries.
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I guess the best way to deliver a good relationship message is to warn the other side by saying they are going to see less flexibility and more backbone ( Harrrumph!!! Man noises!)
What a freaking idiot. He puffs out his chest and talks tough about Russia, but his kid goes over there the very same week and wants their business????
It is just completely upside down. It makes the Bush administration seem logical by comparison.
Matt is as good as Mitt when it comes to foreign relations: totally useless and clueless.
Another rich idiot to throw on the pile.
Can any right-winger here tell what Romney stands for? He signs Assault Weapons Ban in Mass. yet is against gun control. Was Pro Choice before he was for the Person-hood bill (NO Abortions) yet he its OK with abortion for Rape and the life of the mother. As head of Bain he sent jobs to China, now he wants to get tough on China. Will he tell Sheldon Adelson to forfeit his Billion Dollar Casino in China. The list is to long, so I will ask one more question; How much money did Romney bring back from the Swiss banks under the AMNESTY PROGRAM. You know the one for people who illegally kept money in Swiss banks got to bring it home TAX FREE.
Matthew... absolutely nothing makes any sense of the Romney-Ryan campaign. They turn everything around and make Obama look like the angry white man when they are the epitome of that stereotype.
Be very afraid of the future if R-R rise to power. Be very afraid if the GOP-TP continue to play obstructionists in Congress and if McConnell continues to do everything he can to get rid of Obama and NOT legislate. Those idiots were elected and paid by us to LEGISLATE, not hold grudges and pledge revenge and cut off the collective nose to spite the collective face.
I believe in the right of everyone to freely express themselves and to be able to vote if you are a citizen. I believe in using FACTS and telling the truth. I believe in being fair, objective and compassionate. I believe in peace and not war. I believe in progressive actions and not in wanting to return to my mother's womb.
If you have not yet voted, which is highly unlikely in quite a few states, vote and support efforts in allowing everyone the right to "one person = one vote" and not allowing corruption and voter fraud to exist. Let's not be the laughing stock of the world by not supporting voter fraud and corruption. We are supposed to be the epitome of democracy... let's live to those ideals. It is much easier to be honest than to cheat and steal and lie.
Finally, believe the exit polls and if the vote doesn't match the exit polls, be very scared of what occurred... corruption.
Heres why were short Mr Ryan. Thank you Taliban Pete and Jihad Jeb
FACT 1. In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that on inauguration night, 2009, during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.
FACT 2: Draper wrote the guest list included:
FACT 3: Newt Gingrich confirms meeting took place in an interview with Al Sharpton's Politics Nation on June 12, 2012
FACT 4: Two months after Paul Ryan's covert meeting where they plotted to sabotage the US Economy, in March 2009, Rep. Pete Sessions said Republicans should follow the model of the Taliban in its battles against President Obama.
In the March 2009 interview with National Journal Rep Sessions said:
Rep Pete Sessions went on to say:
FACT 5: Also, at the January 20, 2009 meeting they plotted to suddenly stop supporting any Stimulus Legislation, even though, they all supported Bush/Cheney Stimulus legislation.
All is not doom and gloom tonight in the Romney/Ryan camp. I was able to find out that one of Romney's closest friends is ready to endorse him.And have it here for us to see:
//www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ltCIEbLMaQg
Jersy girl, maybe someone would believe your made up "facts" if you learned to spell "Jersey."
Paul Ryan said:
Totally ignoring the fact that unemployment was already on the rise in January of 2009 and would peak at well over 10%!!
Totally ignoring the fact that the Bush policies that led to 10%+ Unemployment are the very policies he and his running mate are championing.
Totally ignoring the fact that there has been a complete turnaround under Pres.Obama and job growth is now positive and steady.
of course, Romney/Ryan never met a fact they couldnt ignore, a lie they wouldn't tell, or a position they wouldn't change to get a vote.
Paul forgot to mention what happened to jobs over the next year AS A RESULT OF THE FAILED BUSH ADMINISTRATION. That would be telling the truth, though.
The GOP obstructed the recovery for four years and now blames the President for the economy not being stronger. Kind of like the kid who murders his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
Let me simplify it for you Matthew. the Obama post recession recovery is the weakest recovery in the history of recoveries. Does that make any sense?
John, can you say it was the BIGGEST recession in our history, I know I can. When a ton of @!$%# hits the fan all at once it takes time to stop slide in a second GREAT DEPRESSION, but thank goodness it was only a GREAT RECESSION. Now the United States is recovery, yes its a slow process but it happening.
Now some people want to change directions and add unwanted changes to Medicare, SS, DOD, etc. Which has been shown by several sources that it will slow the recovery and add to the deficit. That is a smart move, NOT.
How about we think of it this way, say you miss a payment to one of your creditors. How long does it take for that one missed payment to come off your credit report?
A: 7 years. And by all accounts it will knock serveral points of your score...
AV...for some reason, a lot of voters are not looking for a do over for the mistakes of the last four years. POTUS does not get a do over. Failures get replaced. No on the job training allowed.
Romney / Ryan couldn't find the truth with a map and a guide. They are both morally and ethically corrupt.
John, there are several reasons why this recovery is slower. They include:
1) Much of our manufacturing (when compared to previous levels) has been outsourced. This means factories and supply chains were shut down and would need to be re-established before jobs in the affected sectors can be recovered. In many places, the manufacturing jobs have been gone so long that the supporting physical, energy, and communications infrastructure is outdated.
2) We participate in a global economy and like it or not we are directly impacted by other country's economic status.
3) De-regulation, as initiated several administrations ago, allowed larger companies to start to exhibit robber baron status. They lied, cheated, and stole from the average person. This de-regulation led directly to a lopsided allocation of economic input and out-take by a few sectors (think banking for example) which in turn diminished the capacity of MANY businesses to achieve stable and supportable growth curves.
President Obama had to start at below scratch in order to re-establish growth AND deal with the deliberate and pre-planned economic obstructionism of the Republican Party. Blaming the President for "growth is too slow" is simply wrong and ignores real world facts.
Making an assumption that Gov. Romney can speed up the process is not supported by any (lack of) details he has providednor his "economic plan" as posted on his campaign website (btw - his Keystone info as specified in that "plan" is false, per Keystone!). Even his claim of 12 million jobs in the next four years is what is projected to happen if nothing else is done. His economic position lacks facts, informaiton, and substance.
The humanity of it all! Obama said unemployment would not go above 6% if he got the stimulus bill and look where we are at. Wow!
Obama should not have made all of those empty promises. Ouch.
Truth . . . .
The President has done an amazing job while being forced to work with that sludge called Congress!
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Why do you think they're all lighting up this board -- trying their best to spin this into a positive for a total failure of a prez. They keep humping each others legs spreading lies, distortions, dividing the country, anything they can do so they can keep swilling the freebies -- the fear of having to EARN their keep outweighs common sense and civility. Lapdogs, unlike these lapdogs my dog earns his keep!
Matthew don't you have a city park to Occupy?
TC - your statement was shown to be "mostly false" http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/09/american-crossroads/ad-says-barack-obama-promised-jobless-rate-would-b/
John, this is not a normal recession. It is far deeper--into depression territory. The recovery is bound to be different and slower.
It too the Great Depression a decade.
Truth Conveyer--when the stimulus was passed, it was believed the economy was contracted only by 4%. Now we know it was actually contracting by 9%. That's why Obama's prediction seems wrong.
Truthfully, the stimulus should have been twice the amount it was.
Obama never had, nor will he have, any intention of working with Congress. He promised to be the post partisan president. His two signiture pieces of legistlation, the stimulus and healthcare bill passed with no GOP support. His attitude was "I won. The GOP can go screw." That is hardly the way to make friends and influence people. HE is the big cheese and it was HIS responsibility to LEAD. He failed. He will must now be replaced. It's that simple. I don't need a president who hates me and what I do, which is make money for me and my family. F him and the dumbass donkey he rode in on.
John, what part of economic history and business dynamics do you not understand or is it that you would rather simply attempt to insult than discuss facts?
Just as one example, "Lied, cheated, and stole" are statements that can VERY easily be attributed to the inappropriate lending tactics practiced by certain mortgage companies. That and the bundling of those same mortgages and selling them as "highly rated" investment opportunities.
So Bart, from what you have said, you would be okay with 20 trillion in debt? You Liberals are amazing. Keep drinking the kool-aid and America as we know it will be no more.
All the Dems can do is make excuses why they can't get anything done. The recession was so bad, Bush, Hurricanes, Tsunamis, Bush, Congress, Tea Party...nothing but excuses. I'm tired of it.
Four more days and this clown will just be a bad memory.
Bart - and with President Obama's leadership we are better off than European countries that the worldwide recession hit much harder. John and dumb Dottie have no use for the truth.
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Math is not "excuses." Why you just blaming Dems? The Republicans had control of Congress for the last 2 years and haven't passes a single jobs bill--just tons of anti-abortion bills.
JESRY GIRL: The debt would have gone up no matter who is president because of the Bush tax cuts, two wars, and Medicare Drug bill. End the Bush Tax Cuts, stops the wars, fix Medicare if you really want to bring down the debt. Romney doesn't have viable plans for any of these.
If I see that moron running around in his Air Force 1 bomber jacket one more time, I think I'll throw up a little in my mouth. What a clown.
Bart get your facts straight. Bills go through the Senate, where Dingy Harry Reid sits on them. Don't get me started on that lying fool.
drano-2462756
Romney / Ryan couldn't find the truth with a map and a guide. They are both morally and ethically corrupt.
drano,
Might I add MYTH has also no idea about his geographical landmarks either; for example Syria.
MYTH's gaffes on Syria:
Syria is Iran's route to the sea during Foreign Policy debate
At AIPAC Syria is Iran's ally to Syria; Syria is Iran's route to the sea
Syria is Iran's route to the sea it is the only Arab ally in the world.
In fact, as anyone can see on a map Iran is landlocked. Syria and Iran share no border even.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcbodbuGK91qzpwi0o1_500.jpg
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Bart,
First of all it was Obama's promise. Nobody else made the promise....it was him. In terms of Congress, yes, we need a change there. The Senate needs to be moved from Dem controll to Repub control. At least then we can get at a minimum a proposed budget out of them. The House passed multiple budget proposals, passed over to Senate and they died on Harry Reids desk. So yes, the Congress is a problem and specifically the obstructionist Dem controlled Senate
Harry does not care much for moving the country in the right direction so long as he can still live in the Ritz Carlton. What an a-hole. No budget brought to the floor.....seriously???
For the life of me I don't understand why you guys don't believe in accountability.
That's funny. You talk like the Obama actually has a plan. His plan is four more years of excuses and mediocrity.
Four more years of kicking cans down the road.
Four more years of vilifying the opposition.
Four more years of complaining about talk radio.
Four more years of Hip Hop Nights at the White House.
Four More years of months in Hawaii and Martha's Vineyard.
Four more years of not calling anyone in Congress to make a deal.
Four more years of appearing on The View with Wooppie and Babwa
I think I'll pass.
John-2032532, aka, "formerly banned re-reg"
I hope you will buy some Pepto-Bismal for your upset tummy.
And please, like you said, "don't get started." remember the immortal words of your favorite Queen Annie, and "Just Stop IT"
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President Obama WILL be reelected next Tuesday . . . about 100 hours from now, smart Ameruican voters will send Myth Robem & Lyin' Ryan back to states that dislike them so much, none of them will vote for them . . .
"Nov. 1: The Simple Case for Saying Obama Is the Favorite"
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nov-1-the-simple-case-for-saying-obama-is-the-favorite/#more-37035
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O & JOE - Four more years, in four more days! :-)
Wrong again, Insp. Clouseau. I've registered on this board exactly once. By the way, Nate Silver is so far in the tank for Obama, only straw-grasping Obama buttwipes still read his drivel.
John, your such a class act. Calling people buttwipes. Can you have an adult conversation without reverting to your 5th grade bully schoolyard voice? Seems you may have been paying a little too close attention to Lyin Ryan.
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John,,,, you're going to be one pissed off dude come Nov. 7th after Rommel gets whipped. Will be watching for your sorry ass posts.
Hay John, if Mittens is so wonderful why has it now been 21 days since he answered any questions from any reporter. Yes John that includes FOX. Maby this has somthing to do with it.
Or could it be just the Lies about GM and Jeep?
Sorry John trouble with the link to Forbes Voting machine article, Romney part owner of Voting Machine CO.
If you can't tell I'm already pissed off that Obama is running around in his Halloween costume, Army Man dress up, Air Force One bomber jacket. He put on that Commander in Chief charade after leaving four Americans behind in his 9/11 Benghazi sh!t show.
And John, fact check, bills can start in either chamber of congress, and Reid is sitting on 7 bills, instead of 40 like gingrich and ryan. And, nearly all obama bills that started in the house were blocked unanimously by the GOP, even when he offered mountains of concessions and bent over backwards. The fact is the GOP partisanship has destroyed what chance we had for a rapid recovery. They don't deserve the chance to lead from higher up if they couldn't set at least a genuine example from below. If Romney wins, I won't blame the dems if they start blocking the man the same way. The U.S. is doomed as long as either party is a vengeful pissant with nothing but partisanship to offer. The dems were the bigger man this time around. If Obama wins, the GOP had better bend over and actually get something done this time instead of nothing but "no" with no alternatives.
Benghazi is being investigated by the CIA and FBI. Would you people just effing wait until all the information is gathered? Leave it to the uneducated voter to crucify the most stressful, meticulous job in the world. And before one more person blames the president for the economy. NEWS FLASH! The presidential office has next to 0 direct power over the economy. Congress has the power. Make your congressmen do their jobs!
If I had a $ for every time I read here about GOPukes, Repugs,Tea Pukes, etc. I could sell my money and buy Romney's money with the change. Save the rightious indignation for someone who gives a f@ck.
If Obama is re-elected, the Benghazi investigation with sink his 2nd term anyway.
Spell righteous correctly and you might induce the correct response. Troll.
If troll means registered voter, Tea Party member and taxpayer, then I'm that.
John-2032532
John:
Save your cussing to someone that deserves it. I didn't call you or your tea party any of those names. Your response speaks volumes and further makes my point. The fact that people can't even have an civil conversation is just the beginning of why this country is in trouble. Parties are not supposed to agree on everything, but when the votes are cast they are supposed to work for the people that voted for them. Not do everything in their power to block any progress. We have two ways this can play out. We can work together and fix things or we can argue and name call and flush our country and everything everyone has worked for and everything the military stands for right down the toilet.
It's time we all grow up now. We have bigger problems than disagreement We are going to cease to exsist as a nation if we don't get it together, and fast. !!!
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Who said " Elections have consequences, John. You lost. I won."?
Who said American businesses soft and lazy and said they'd lost their ambition; they didn't build that; they need to up their game?
Who baselessly accused the Chamber of Commerce of accepting foreign contributions and said it had the burden of proving it did not?
Who said Mitt Romney, in effect, killed a lady who lost her insurance?
Who says the "wealthy" aren't paying their fair share?
Who stepped on the conscience protections of people of faith and attacked a Lutheran school's right to hire and fire on religious grounds?
Who uses "gay rights" as a wedge issue and depict opponents of same-sex marriage as bigots?
Who manufactured a phony GOP "War on Women."?
Who says Republicans want dirty air and dirty water and rejoice when people lose their insurance coverage, that they want a smaller America and don't believe in rebuilding roads and bridges, that they are hostage takers and Slurpee sippers? He says they created this mess, and they should sit in the backseat of the car. We'll have hand-to-hand combat with them on Capitol Hill, and if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun.
Who crammed Obamacare down the throats of a strongly opposed majority?
Who continue to scare seniors, the "middle class" and the "poor" into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare?
Who publicly ridiculed and demonized the Supreme Court on multiple occasions?
Who disparaged hedge fund managers as "playing with other people's money."?
Who vilified immigration enforcement advocates as racists?
Who waged a war against states on immigration and voter ID laws?
Who worked against military ballots?
Who lawlessly rewrote loans in the GM and Chrysler restructurings to favor unions and cheat secured creditors; and in Solyndra, to subordinate taxpayers to private investors?
Who exploited race and minority relations for political purposes and for ideological reasons, including Eric Holder calling the nation cowards on race, racializing voter intimidation laws and saying the GOP was after him on Fast and Furious because he, like Obama, is an African American; appealing to Hispanics and blacks to vote as a bloc for Democrats because Democrats are their friends and Republicans their enemies; and accusing the GOP of supporting voter ID laws to suppress the minority vote and immigration laws for racial reasons.
The answer to every question is the President of the United States Barack Obama. Vote as if your life depends upon it, becasue i probably does.
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America's Comeback team
The wealthy have the lowest tax rates since before the Great Depression. If you think that is a GOOD thing, you are delusional. And voter suppression DOES result in minorities being excluded. It is the POINT as a state legislator in Pennsylvania was actually dumb enough to admit. If you want a bigoted, racist, regressive at the helm of Government, vote Romney/Ryan. Just don't come crying to me when you are living in the modern day equivalent of a Hooverville (look it up)!
Four more days till Milli Vanilli is ousted from the Oval Office. We the people can't wait...its been a long depressing ride, but will be over soon.
Milli Vanilli don't exist anymore. In fact, one of them killed himself. Not sure what you're talking about. Of course, I try to be nice to everyone and I don't want to assume that your use of the term "Milli Vanilli" is meant to be tied to anyone's race, so I will play nice and pretend or assume that you're not being racist and instead you just think that a lip-syncing duo (one of whom is dead) is at the helm of the U.S. presidency.
smh
JFK-2112
JFK
Milli Vanilli?????
Who's this parrot?
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four more days until we don't have to listen to regurgitated crap from BS Mountain or conservative radio repeated by village idiots like JFK-2112....
Milli Vanilli might be a reference to the fact that this President fooled so many people for a few years, until we finally realised that he had been faking it the whole time.
He is a better singer than those guys though, to give him his dues.
It really doesn't matter whether or not Milli Vanilli were any good. Making fun of a suicide to make an idiotic political statement simply shows the low level of filth that is coming out in support of Romney/Ryan.
Do you think "jfk" could post all of the documented examples of what little Ryan has done for the economy during his time in the House? Of course not...because legislating "legitimate rape" has nothing to do with the economy. So, instead, "jfk" has to make fun of a suicide...and I'm positive that "jfk" only thinks it's funny because it was the suicide of someone of African descent.
I would call Miss Mittsy supporters pigs, but pigs actually serve a purpose.
Racist much?
It's difficult to tell with the despicable, "palin-like" grammar, but I assume "charlie" and "loo" are referring to "jfk".
They wouldn't be so stupid as to use the "reverse racism" tactic invented by the KKK, would they? It's just too obvious...
Sorry, Charlie - I thought you were talking to me....
Still can't figure out what "loo" was trying to write...
ok, Mr. Ryan....just how many jobs have you created in the last 4 years while you and your party of obstructionists have said NO to every jobs bill put before you......not to mention the only ones your party of no sent to the senate was so loaded with Pork for your cronies that the senate would not even bring them to the table.....you will NEVER see the inside of the WH, unless it's to clean the toilets.
Ryan was OK with voting against the stimulus yet asking the administration to send stimulus money to his district. He was also happy to vote for the Bush tax cut, 2 wars and the unfunded Medicare benefits. What a hypocrite. I hope his district doesn't elect him either and he has to get a real job.
And Ryan wants us to forget that he's a big part of the problem
Don't ever trust Ryan when he talks numbers. Your first thought should be that he wanted to study Medicine and become a doctor until he figured out that he couldn't handle the math requirements. So he studied economics instead. He couldn't handle math and was stupid enough to not realize that economics had a lot of.....math. No wonder his budget doesn't add up.
Obama is the biggest problem, it called LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
Jon - I'm just surprised he didn't say "visit our website" it's all laid out there. Isn't that Mitt's standard cop out?
Obama/Biden 2012 and send Romney/Ryan away forever!
Today my husband received a phone call from a man who told him to vote for Romney. When my husband asked him why Romney and Ryan lied about Jeep jobs leaving Ohio for China, and that the CEO of Chrylser said it was a lie, the man then said that the leader of Chrysler was an Obama supporter and was voting for him. My husband pointed out that the man who runs Chrylser is Italian and cannot vote in this country. The man then said it was a plot by the Obama campaign to send the jobs to China. My husband then asked him why Romney has sent so many jobs to China and why he hasn't said anything about Bain sending Sensata jobs to China, the man said that this was different because he didn't work for the government. REALLY which one is it? These phone solicitors are just like Romney and Ryan, liars and fools.
Jersey Girl, when did Ryan ever complain about Boehner's "lack of leadership"? Remember "jobs, jobs, jobs"???
(Regardless of the opposing politics, if you are from Jersey or have loved ones there, I hope all is well for you!)
Jersey Girl,
Even your die-hard, loud mouthed, usually obnoxious governor is probably willing to admit that Obama does not lack leadership.
BTW: One would think you would have some kind of appreciation for the unfettered help Obama gave to New Jersey. You should be thanking your lucky stars Bush isn't president, or might've had another Katrina on our hands.
Leadership is the ability to work for the common good regardless of political positions - which is precisely what we have seen from President Obama and Governor Christie.
Leadership is not sending your servants to Wal-mart to buy crap for a photo-op and then sending out your little #2 to complain about a problem that he helped create.
Siesta,
Can you please explain to me why the Democrat controlled Senate under Harry Reids "leadership" has not proposed a budget for consideration in over three years? Sounds obstructionist to me but on the Dem side.
Harry was probably too busy getting a manicure at his residence in the Ritz Carlton.
Vote Democrat: The party of no accountablility
ShockedandDisgusted: Most Americans have no choice but to shop for cheaper prices at WalMart. They have to feed their families - it's those families that don't get food stamp handouts from your leader - or should I say that those that are working have to pay to feed their families. Your Prez made this happen. It's the economy Stupid!
Oh, really, "proud"? Your side is caring about the poor now??? Walmart was buying crap from China and your side was bankrupting the country long before President Obama came into office and you know that, don't you "proud"....and doesn't change the fact that your precious little Mittsy is too much of a snob to go to Walmart himself. He doesn't want to sully his image being seen with people like you, I guess.
How does your mother feel about spawning a liar? I'll bet she isn't nearly as "proud"?
(p.s....Writing "your prez" demonstrates that you are not actually an American. What are you proud of again??)
Shocked,
Have you ever shopped at Walmart? That place has unbelievable values for people that need unbelievalbe values. It hires tens of thousands of workers. In short, it is a great company that provides a hugely valuable service for those of us that cannot afford to shop at high end boutique grocery stores.
What is the probleme with that? Or, are you one of these people that wants free stuff because you want free stuff. Are you jealous of successful people?
Lets face facts Romney would have been one of those fancy pants primp and wearing one of those powder
wigs British punks that we fought the revolutionary war let them eat cake
I pay for all of my stuff, ironically named "truth". I do the best I can to not spend my hard earned money on Chinese products - which is next to impossible, but COMPLETELY impossible at Walmart.
I understand that the economy is forcing people to shop stores like Walmart, but it won't stop me from pointing out there close-to-unethical business practices and the horrible way they treat their employees.
I'm not a freak about it and can't blame anyone that places food on the table over politics...I just avoid the place like the plague.
Remember when Walmart bragged about all of their American made products and then got caught selling Chinese products as American? That would be when I wrote them off...seems others have forgotten...
Truth ....
Seriously? WalMart may employ a lot of people but they do not allow them to have enough hours for benefits. I refuse to shop there no matter the price. This is the kind of "employment" that Romney is talking about. Yep, you're "employed!" But you've no benefits and still qualify for government assistance.
PUHLEASE!
Layton,
I see you come from the I like "inexpensive stuff but do not want to pay for it" mindset. Gee, maybe Walmart should provide the equivelent of $100 an hour benefits to their workers. However, they should not raise their prices because that would mean they are a mean, evil corporation. In fact, they should should not be allowed to make money.
Get a clue, there is no free lunch. You probably have a bunch of Apple products but are ok with that because Apple is a "cool company".
I guess working at Walmart is beneath you. However, it is not beneath the 2.2 million people it employs. I guess they must be something right. Or, are they all being forced to work there against their will? Did it ever occur to you Walmart runs their business so they can provide their customers the best prices available, so that their customers can stretch their hard earned dollars further?
Trying to reason economics with folks like you is a fools errand which is exactly why Obama has the economic results that he has "produced". He, like you, live in some sort of fairlyland with regard to how economics actually works. Just ask the 23 million that are still unemployed which is 9 million short of what he promised.
Grow up.
Truth ... do YOU READ????
I do not shop at WalMart! I support my local stores and the businesses that are not "chains."
No Apple products.
Working at WalMart, my companion does as a way to make a living for his children. No benefits. Many of the cashiers that he works with are delegated 35 hours a work week to make damn sure that they don't qualify for squat.
Grow up?
I'd suggest you actually READ and understand what the hell your neighbors are going through to make ends meet. Thank God the President gets this and will push forward for the Middle Class. Mitt & Co. only want to make sure people have "jobs." They don't give a rat's butt on what the job pays ... nor do you. And the 23 million that are unemployed????? There are help wanted signs right and left in my state. I would wonder how many think that they shouldn't start from the ground up and just do a job!!!
Sheesh!
Layton,
I do understand what my neighbors are going through which is exactly why a partisan like Obama must for the good of the country be removed from the White House. His policies are destroying the middle class.
Shocked and disgusted: "Jersygirl" is NOT from Jersey...she cannot even SPELL it!
I think it’s time for the citizens of our country to understand what the upcoming elections are really about, and what is really at stake if we make the wrong decision in whom we choose to be our president for the next four years.
The Right for four decades now, has been working overtime to try and create a country that if successful would eventually eliminate the middle-class, and would leave us with a two-class society of what the Right calls’ Creators (1%) and those despicable Parasites (99%). The Right has been attempting to establish a laissez-faire type of Capitalism in our country. Which is characterized by free market fundamentalism, where consumers, workers, and families are left on their own, and businesses do whatever they want, with little or no role for government. But, there are a few problems with their type of Capitalism that the Right neglects to tell you or just doesn’t want you to know, and like any thing that sounds too good to be true, usually is too good to be true, and that is the case with the Rights version of Capitalism, and to be realistic about it, it could only work in a truly perfect world, and besides our world is far from being perfect. In addition, there are two major flaws that come with the type of Capitalism the Right wants to bestow upon us, corruption is one, and which would undoubtedly run rampant, and then there is the built-in flaw that Capitalism is based on, and which is, destroying the competition. Capitalism’s built-in flaw is always geared to destroy its competition, and when that inevitably occurs Capitalism fails, and a sure sign that Capitalism is failing are the establishment of monopolies. Once the competition has been destroyed, and Monopolies have taken over consumers lose their freedom of choice. Monopolies have virtually no competition and can dictate prices to their consumers unless they are restricted by regulators. The consumer either has to pay the price demanded by the monopoly or not receive that good/service. And, with the arrival of Monopolies the ugly world of collusion makes itself present. And, then you consider that from the onset of George W. Bush’s presidency he conveniently started replacing the people who oversaw the regulatory commissions with people that had previously worked for the very industries that they were now going to regulate, which could be considered as leaving the foxes to guard the hen houses! Then you throw in the Right’s failed trickle down economics, and all of that combine is what has brought about the failed capitalism we are now witnessing. What the Right has deliberately done, is that they have taken a reasonably regulated free enterprise system with a balanced economy that could have been globally competitive for decades. At one time our country consisted of a wealthy class, a thriving middle class, and a not so poor, poor class, and by the Right trying to turn our reasonably regulated free enterprise system of Capitalism into their version of Capitalism has endangered the middle-class to the point of extinction! And, has also left our country in jeopardy of becoming a Plutocracy!
What the Right doesn't realize or does and just doesn’t care, is that we had a unique system that was a perfect blend of Capitalism and Socialism that helped safeguard us from extreme downturns, and also helped make recoveries from any downturns much easier to recover from. Our system was structured in a way that actually helped maintain capitalism’s survival by keeping its fatal flaws in check, and contrary to what the Right believes Capitalism cannot survive without government along with its regulations. And, this is the type of capitalism that helped make our country the most successful and revered country to ever have existed! Yet, it happens to be the Capitalistic system that the Right has so blatantly been attempting to destroy! But, we still do have time to save this great system that helped created our great society and country by reelecting President Obama, and bringing back this unique system of Capitalism where society sets the rules and standards of commerce, regarding matters like protecting consumers, employees and the environment from irresponsible business practices, such as excessive pollution, risky oil drilling, predatory and reckless bank lending, unsafe workplaces, food, medicine, cars, and airplanes, minimum wages, and discrimination by race and gender. Along with restoring the American Dream or we can continue on the course the Right wants to take us, where our society consists of only Creators (1%) and the despicable Parasites (99%).
It’s your choice, folk’s, so choose wisely, because your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren are depending on you to make the right decision!
Conservative Political Action Conference - There is a video of Gordon Norquist - Conservative Activist and GOP "GURU" which confirms that all they want in the WHITE HOUSE is a President with enough "working digits" to sign their Paul Ryan Budget......I strongly urge everyone to watch it. Understand what CPAC is and what it represents....Romney have been given "carte blanche" to say whatever he must to get into office...once there he can relax and just sign whatever piece of legislation the GPO has crafted....there will be no reaching across the aisle here...there is only one aisle and they are serving TEA.
Moderaterepub- I think you mean Grover Norquist.
Obama/Biden 2012
Rommel will never get the chance!
Good points, RWSU. For those who think this is mumbo jumbo, I suggest you read "The Wealth Of Nations" by Adam Smith. These scenarios are discussed in that great work.
This little troll will be gone soon!!! I hope he loses his seat in congress too!!!! Its over for these two yahoos, I can see the desperation and ass sweats!!!! Its over for mittens!!!
Obama/Biden 2012 "We Got It Straight In 2008!!!"
16 trillion in debt
credit downgrade
real unemployment at 14.9%
each year gdp growth has decreaced its pace
Iran is 4 years closer to a nuclear bomb
No budget proposal
Obama focuses on gay marriage and abortion
Obama was a college professor and a lawyer who has never worked in the private sector
Romney 2012: because real issues like the economy and jobs matter
16 trillion in debt: driven by Bush tax cuts, two wars, Medicare drug bill. Obama's policies only added 16% to debt.
Credit Downgrade: caused by GOP obstruction in congress
"real" unemployment: sure, make up a number
Iran is 4 years close to nuclear bomb: Sure, but so am I
No budget: Congress passes budgets, not the President
Obama focuses on gay marriage and abortion: Civil rights are the core of this country. Seems like the GOP is more obsessed with abortion as it tried to pass anti-abortion bill after anti-abortion bill in Congress instead of a single jobs bill
Obama never worked in the private sector: Last successful businessman to be President was Carter
Romney Real Issues: Name a single concrete solution Romney has put forth about how to fix the economy. NADA
liberalloosers, It's not Obama that is focusing on abortion. Between the Republican House and the Republican states, how many anti-abortion bills have been passed or attempted in the past two years? Hundreds? I don't think the President proposed even one of them.
The rich and the GOP are conspiring to get rid of the middle class so things can get back to the way they were before 1912 when the election spending law was passed. Thats what they call taking back America.
Do you have any proof of your claim or are you merely spewing the left wing drivel that you've been spoon fed?
Thought so...
Wow..."tammy" asks for proof when all "she" can ever do is regurgitate the fascist right's daily talking point. I'll remember this, "tammy"...you will need to provide documented proof for all of your future points.
If "tammy" would have been alive in the Germany of the 1930's, you would only need to substitute "Jewish" for "left wing". Thoughtless followers incapable of deductive reasoning...
One upside on the morning on Nov. 7: no more emails asking me for money.
Ain't that the truth LaDolceVita!
The other upsides are NO MORE Mitt or Ann Romney or Paul Ryan or the RNC or Crossroads GPS or Iowa's Lt Gov robo calls, and no more campaign commercials!
I'm sure Mitt and Ann and Paul will all get cushy correspondent jobs at Fox "News".
You are absolutely right ! It's been fun though :) I had the pleasure/honor of being on a conference call with President Obama at 8:30 this morning. It was very interesting to get an update from his Chicao staff before he came on the line. He sounded upbeat, but tired. Good thing it will be over soon. I'm looking forward to wonderful things from President Obama.
God Bless America....vote !
They'll join the cast of clowns over at Faux....
The non-reverend Huckabee says that you'll be "doomed to hell" if you vote for Obama/Biden.....
...then of course there's Sarah, dear empty Sarah!
Jody,Iowa,
Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your post. Your Friday wrap up is great. Hope you don't mind...I copy it and send it to my group of retired friends. Just 4 more days and I can breathe again ! :)
Jody ... I can only IMAGINE the hell it's been in Iowa for you!!! So agreed on the commercials ... television AND radio! Spent a bit of time the other night making new playlists for my ipod. I can't stand to listen to anything but that while driving!
Cameron .I'm not sure Fox would want them!
No more people on my TV moaning and groaning over the economy, bitterly asking President Obama "why isn't everything all better? We've been waiting, and waiting for you to make us happy, and you've failed!" Those ads with women looking soooo disappointed in the gifted, empathetic, hard working guy who has been contending with obstructionists in the House with no help from the sad, worried lady in the political ad!
In four more days, it will be all over. I will no longer have to hear the lies and Bull ffrom the likes of SS, Layton, Reddev. feisty, Amy, yes even you amy with your pacifist lies like the one above, Jody, please forgive me if I forgot any of you, the worst liberals on this planet.
I will also look forward for my neighbors to start working, for the devisivness of this Administration to end. for all of us getting along together because of our contents and not the color, or accent, or religion, or gender. We have evolve in many years, but this last 4 we have gone back about 60 years.
The best think will be not to have and come to NBC to post my believes and truth.
@Layton
I've read your posts. You have a delicate balance between softness and strength.
Not easy. It all boils down to compassion and a recognition of reality.
Your words bring good things to to"The Vine" and the larger world community who read this to try and understand the American voice. Thank you.
I live in Ohio. Every other commercial is political. Even YouTube ads!
Rustyboy-FL
Absolutely agree with you re: Layton .
Rustyboy and Patricia .... I am seriously blushing! Thank you so much! Have a great weekend and know that your kind words were so needed today!
Poor, pitiful, pathetic, Concerned - always the victim. As if anyone forced you to post your 'believes' and truth on the vine.
@ Layton
You are very welcome. The words don't come casually, you earned them. Peace to you and those you love!
Layton you are welcome. Keep it up ! Have a great weekend.
RedDevPS
ReDevPS - Simply putting it, because it is a free Country and because I feel it is my duty to expose the malice that comes to post here. Do you have a problem with that?
As one" concerned citizen " to another, you need help.
“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”.
-Barak Hussein Obama
“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”
-Barak Hussein Obama
Failed POTUS
If you'd like a true picture of who actually has driven our debt to the sun, just type in your search engine ReaganBushDebt.org
Be sure to read the calculation details, because it pretty revealing.
That was Feb 2009. Nobody knew how badly Bush wrecked the economy at that point.
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Bush and the GOP are to be blamed for driving up the debt but Steve dares claim President Obama didn't cut the GOPTP's debt fast enough IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEAR DEPRESSION? In other words you're willing to put the fox (Mitt) back in the hen house because he will add trillions more to the debt--it's called Arithmetic.
Guess you missed Mitt Romney's saying that during economic recessions, Government must deficit spend? Guess you missed former President Bill Clinton who said no president, not even himself, could have fixed the damage in four years--none.
it was bill clinton who deregulated the banks
With 100% support from the war monger pubs.
Actually it was Congress.
And Bush had 8 years to re-regulate.
It amazes me the the teabaggers were able to put people into Congress without having any clue as to what Congress does.
To bad the republicans offered only roadblocks, otherwise we would be in much better shape today.
President Obama has has done in 4 years what Bush couldn't do in 8. President Obama has increased our debt double in 4 years compared to what Bush did in 8. Just goes to show you: President Obama should have his credit revoked.
Romney is trying to widen the electoral college map by spending tons of money on ads in states like Mn and Penn to find a new path to the 270 mark. He is seeing the hole closing in Ohio and he needs to find another avenue. Its going to be VERY hard for the math to add up right for Romney. He's getting desperate.
"royalStar05" - I think you are closer to the truth than you know! here's the best math:
"Nov. 1: The Simple Case for Saying Obama Is the Favorite"
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nov-1-the-simple-case-for-saying-obama-is-the-favorite/#more-37035
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O & JOE!
Obama has already created 5.1 million jobs and Ryan says we're 9 million short?
His party's policies and his party's president is why we are still 9 million jobs short.
By the way, NO president has ever created 14.1 million jobs in 4 years.
The CBO is already projecting that under Obama's policies 11-12 million additional jobs will be created by 2016.
"Re-Elect Obama" . . .
LOL, in 4 days we will be 9M + 1 "short" . . . Myth Robme is already unemployed, and by next Wednesday am, Lyin' Ryan will be unemployed, too!
Then hopefully the Dem's will have a better chance to get President Obama's jobs bills passed - the ones the ReThugLicans have been blocking.
:-)
O & JOE! 4 more years, in 4 more days! :-)
Had you GOP worked with the current admin instead of fighting him every step of the way, we'd have those job...door knob
Why don't you talk to Reid about the jobs bills.
Oh, and you might want to talk to him about the budgets as well.
Tammy - or we could talk to the Republicans in the House who have tabled the last 5 jobs bill the President proposed without letting them come to the floor for a vote. Let's start there!
Obama/Biden 2012
Putting "jobs" in the name of the bill doesn't really mean the bill has anything to do with jobs, "tammy". Apparently it works for thoughtless people so, "tammy" please provide us with a list of the bills you are whining about, how, exactly, the bills would be put into effect and, exactly, how many jobs would be created from them. Then supply us with a list of the same bills that contain language legislating the fascist evangelical agenda. Then, perhaps, we could sit down like adult Americans, find the bills that are economic, not social, in nature and get a few things passed.
So, "tammy", since you know so much, I'll be waiting for your verifiable documentation. (ha-ha)....
"tammy"? Where did you go, "tammy"??
Curious....she seemed to know so much about what she was writing about (ha-ha again).
It's like turning the light on cockroaches...
Yeah, the 9 million jobs that Mitt Rmoney and the GOP sent overseas.
Hey, Ryan, don't forget, your GOPTP built that unemployment number because you voted to put Party First, not Country. You built the economic collapse as sure as you built the massive deficit and debt--then for the next 4 years, you blamed President Obama for the house of cards the Bush/Cheney, you, and the GOPTP built on sand.
Ryan doesn't tell voters that he voted YES for every UNFUNDED piece of legislation from 2001-2008 and he doesn't tell them he voted NO on every single one of President Obama's jobs bills given to Congress including the Veteran's jobs bill. Ryan fails to mention he was one of the GOPers to meet for dinner the night of January 20,2009, to plot their obstruction of everything President Obama tried to do, plot to defeat him while sitting on their rear ends and watching Americans suffer and watching the country's economy crash. Causing harm to the country and Americans meant nothing to the GOP compared to defeating President Obama. There's a special place in hell for that crowd.
Amen, Jody. Watching the people in NY & NJ deal with the storm this week has been heartbreaking---to see the suffering and misery. Yet Ryan and the Republicans sat in Washington and watched millions of their fellow Americans lose their jobs, their savings, their homes and their sense of safety and DID NOTHING, all to defeat President Obama. They deserve to be out of jobs and see how it feels.
Lets not forget the 170+ people in Wisconsin that Bain Capital/Romney put out of work and sent the jobs to China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read some where Romney could care less, he's saying it's the Presidents fault. Don't you think it's time he move his family back to Mexico????????????????
Shut up, Paul Ryan. We would be at least 12 million jobs short under your running mate's policies!
He can only brown nose so far.
Marathon man is also short of ideas....
If Paul Ryan is so concerned about jobs, why did he (and the rest of the Republicans) vote AGAINST every single jobs bill the president put forward?
It takes a real weasel to hinder someone from accomplishing something, and then blame them for not accomplishing it.
Mr. Lying Ryan, you and your Eddie Munster hair do, go back where you came from, we are not interested in your, your political views or anything else you are spouting. I know as a woman, that you are not on the side of women, less pay, no wellness benefits, and if you get in, you will probably take my right to vote away which I do cherish. Hope to see you cry on 11/6/2012. OBAMA/ 2012
It's funny reading the obvious panic coming from the left on this site.
Romney by 5 points. Independents are breaking hard for Romney.
In four days, the end of this nightmare and the vermin are sent back to Chicago to fester.
Post # 11.
I'll meet you back here on the 7th shortbus and we'll see who lost and is getting sent back to the land of magic underwear....
I can't wait ... roast varMitt ... yummmmm.
I am an independent and have only voted democratic once in my life.....I promise you I am NOT "breaking hard for Romney" in fact after starting out with a clear open mind months ago and researching and reading everything i can find from every source possible..I have NO idea how anyone could vote for Romney. I am no longer undecided and I feel very good about my choice. Romneys lack of a real plan, inability to really know who the middle class is, wanting to get rid of a much needed Obamacare, his stance on student loans, and his lack of respect for women and their choices has made my final decision much easier. Dont be so sure where the independent voters are heading, especially the women.
-Obama lies
Stupid is what stupid does. What do you do, set around all day and listen to Rush Nutbaugh and Faux news. Panic is coming from Romnuts and the right. That's why they keep broadcasting their lies. Infact that's all they have ever done is lie. The truth is not even in them.
Obama Lies - I see no panic from the left - just a little relief as we see the tide definitely in Obama's favor. Sorry to burst your bubble but Independents ARE NOT breaking for Romney. We're sticking with our President!
Undecided - NC, I'm still hoping there are enough of you in my beautiful home state of NC to give it to President Obama. I was so proud when the state went for the President in 2008.
Obama/Biden 2012
Watch FOX much?!?
You must be one of FOX's devout viewers as they are the only cable channel feigning a lead for Romney!
Good luck with that. ;)
Obama/Biden 2012
Polling since the 3rd debate clearly shows momentum is going toward Obama.
Want more proof, look at the business donations since the 3rd debate. Businesses went from being for Romney to giving to Obama at a 2-1 pace last week. The pace is accelerating this week as they are very unhappy with Republicans for their attacks on ADP, GM, and Chrysler.
Hey short bus...mark it at 11:14 est, the people elected Obama TWICE!
if were 9 million jobs short, then thats all the more reason NOT to vote GOP..since Paul Ryan and his fellow house GOP members made it a mission to derail every jobs bill put forth the last 2 years! further, id like to let people know his story about the Delphi plant in Oak Creek WI is COMPLETE BS! My ex's parents worked there, and lost their jobs and pensions before Obama took office! Obama however saved their pensions with the bail out.
Let's hope the people of Wisconsin take a good hard look at who they sent to DC and decide the Ryan needs to spend more time with his family.
The jobs report is colored by the reduction in government sector jobs. If just the private sector jobs are considered, things are recovering at a faster rate. As long as we are cutting back on police, teachers, firefighters and other goverment spending, the growth will be slow. Dealing at Sandy's mess with roads, bridges, and subways should start an examination at our whole structure. We need to pull back on overseas expenses and spend the money at home.
Obama lies, you really don't want to know ROMENY, he is the bigest liar on main street, you think you will be better off, but you just wait and see, and you will wish we could impeach him and get out of office real quick.
A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for America. Vote for Liberty on election day.
You've gotta be high!