Johnny could only sing one note
And the note he sings was this
BEN (g)Ah!(zee)

Poor Johnny one-note
sang out with "gusto"
And just overlorded the place
Poor Johnny one-note
yelled willy nilly
Until he was bleu in the face
For holding one note was his ace

Couldn’t hear the brass
Couldn’t hear the drum
He was in a class
By himself, by gum!

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/babesinarms/johnnyonenote.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEpRBI-VxLc

The First Lady and this President have done more for our service men than anyo

First Lady Michelle and Dr. Jill Biden have done massive work for Joining Forces and military families. Just amazing work on behalf of the military.

Earlier this year:

"First Lady Michelle Obama traveled to Naval Station Mayport, Florida to
announce that more than 2,000 businesses who have participated in her Joining
Forces initiative have hired or trained more than 125,000 veterans and military
spouses in the past year.

Mrs. Obama also announced that these same companies
have committed to build on the momentum to date and have pledged to hire or
train 250,000 veterans and spouses in the coming years. The First Lady's event
at Naval Station Mayport was livestreamed by the Department of Defense to every
U.S. military base around the world.

One year ago, the President announced a series of measures to increase
veterans' employment and he asked the First Lady and Dr. Biden to lead an effort
with the private sector through Joining Forces to hire or train 100,000 veterans
and military spouses by the end of 2013.

Joining Forces efforts to date have
exceeded the President's challenge to the private sector with hiring milestones
met more than a year early.

The First Lady also reiterated her challenge to states to pass legislation
that reduces the financial and administrative strains that 100,000 military
spouses incur from trying to get their state licenses or certification
credentials to transfer from state to state as they move. Mrs. Obama and Dr.
Jill Biden made their pitch to governors in February of this year when only 11
states had legislation on the books supporting military spouse license
portability.

In just six months the number of states with supportive measures in
place has more than doubled to 26 states."

It is Romney who is a patently dishonest man, and no hope for it.

Plus he has done it all on-camera.

Ask Chrysler and G.M. -- now busy roasting Romney for lying about them.

when her taxpayer paid extravagant vacations for her and hundreds of "close family members" is over :)

More RWNJ crap unfounded garbage spewed by the right that has been debunked so many times, it only noteworthy in pointing out the idiot poster is stuck on stupid.

Yes, master. Benghazi. I wil vote for Romney because of Benghazi...

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Forget Social Security. Forget Medicare. Forget Medicaid. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi! Forget the 47% lazy bums. Forget Planned Parenthood. Forget the Immorality of Disaster Relief. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!! Forget vulture buyouts. Forget offshore tax evasion. Forget outsourcing jobs to China. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!! Forget fake canned goods donations. Forget lying about Chrysler and General Motors. Forget lying about everything imaginable under the sun. BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI, BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!

What do you do for an encore?

Can you sell it to Mr. Bully Romney?

Here's a good example of how Obama, and his supporters feel about the lost-lives of those four US diplomats in Benghazi.

dangerfield

Johnny could only sing one note
And the note he sings was this
BEN (g)Ah!(zee)

In other words, they couldn't give a damn less! Don't be fooled by the main-stream media, folks. Obama's visit to New Jersey yesterday, was just a big photo-op paid for by the Federal Government.

Obama doesn't really give a damn about you, and his attitude concerning the Benghazi incident PROVES it!

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

dangerfield...truthfully, I don't like you much for cause.

But I have to say, your post at 1.1 was really on target and very clever.

How about Romney PollwatcherGate?

The Romney Campaign had 8 training sessions in Wisconsin over the last 2 weeks, training workers to mislead at the polls. All documented.

Got corruption?

kanin republicans are guilty;

www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/1005/Libya-attack-Congressmen-casting-blame-voted-to-cut-diplomatic-security-budget

Kanin, I answered you oon the other thread. If you want us to declare war on Libya, just say so!

After the Mission was burned and all personnel were evacuated, captured, or dead; the terrorists then attacked the Annex. CIA operators at the Annex called again for military support and help. The request was denied. One member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. He had a designation laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex, and the operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from. They apparently thought that the two Predator drones overhead could use their Hellfire missiles on the mortar location.

If you wingnuts wanted Obama to launch a military attack in a city of over a million people in a friendly country with a pro-US population and start another stupid war, just come out and say it. We have had enough of your neocon shoot first and ask questions later mentality and we will be paying the price for your Iraqi adventure for generations. Any general that had Benghazi in his sphere of responsibility would would realize doing what you suggest would be felony stupid.

Irving 99

Yes, master. Benghazi. I wil vote for Romney because of Benghazi...

.....the disrespect, contempt, and all out VITRIOL for our deceased diplomats, AND their families continues!

These are the same people who's parents went out of their way to SPIT at veterans returning from Vietnam back in the 60's and 70's.

Is Obama's way of thinking REALLY any different than that of his supporters?.....Do we REALLY want THIS kind of thinking and maturity level in Washington for ANOTHER four (4) years?

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

Are you doing rehearsals for KKK, or is this the real thing?

Yore party got reel class.

Kannin

I'd be more impressed if she were "heartbroken" over the brave Americans who were slaughtered while pleading for the help that her husband denied them.

Kannin

Despite the fact that I posted a 2003 Florida appeals court case decided that Fox News has a First Amendment right to lie; you still post this mantra.

Geraldo slams ‘GOP bloodlust’ over Benghazi

Geraldo Rivera slammed the politicization of the attack in Benghazi, firing off a series of tweets while hunkered down at home in Edgewater, N.J., during Hurricane Sandy. Rivera, the Fox News contributor and "Geraldo at Large" host, criticized the controversy being pushed by some conservatives.

It's "clear no C130 gunships were available," Rivera tweeted. "Criticize coverup [but] saying White House watched [and] did nothing to help is a lie."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/geraldo-benghazi-gop-bloodlust-153250132.html

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It's time some of you insanely blind rwnjs follow suit,

4 more 4 44

Obama/Biden2012

Oh cut me a break ZMan. You're so full of crap it's coming out of your ears. I'm sure your're just as full of concern for the 4000 Americans and 100,000 Iragis who died because of a trumped up Republican photo op war with a country that did not attack us...

Chant some more: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. I'll make you feel even more holier-than-thou...

Oh by the way, my family has been Republican for five generations. That does not mean I will vote for a tax evading liar who shifts his policies every ten seconds....

You want vitriol, I'll give you vitriol: You stuck-on-stupid people almost ruined this country when you re-elected that pea brain Bush. Now you want us to forget tha whole debacle. Dream on nitwat....

ItsBenghaziSandymanToRescue- you truly are a good Republican - total gutter trash!

Obama/Biden 2012

Chant some more: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. I'll make you feel even more holier-than-thou...

That is what desperate losing campaigns do when they are losing both on the issues and in the polls. It really must chafe them that Willard, in the final debate agreed with Obama on his Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan policies.

PS, Kanin's reply to me:

*crickets*

Ah, Dangerfield: with that post I see you've come on over to the light.

Welcome to the Democratic party my friend.

"It don't matter if your black or white." As long as you use your mind, and vote to do what is right.

dirp?

Even though I am endlessly misquoted on my only other Groucho um, appropriation...(tribute?)

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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
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Oh and when you assume...

dangerfield: ah, but an intelligent, thinking person such as yourself would really only have one choice in who they would vote for, the Democrats.

By the way, did you see this:

Complaints crop up in Ohio of early voting machines marking Romney votes for Obama

Published October 31, 2012

FoxNews.com

Early voting problems in the key battleground state of Ohio are fueling concerns in the final days until Election Day, with the national race essentially tied in the latest Fox News poll.

After several early voters in North Carolina said last week they cast ballots for Mitt Romney but the electronic ballot machine logged their pick as President Obama, similar problems have popped up this week in Ohio.

Voters said they selected Romney on the touch screen but an Obama vote was logged instead.

"You want to vote for who you want to vote for, and when you can't it's irritating," Ohio voter Joan Steven told the Marion Star.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/31/complaints-crop-up-in-ohio-early-voting-machines-marking-romney-votes-for-obama/#ixzz2B0aIR3PA

Kinda scary, now we know the rumors about the Tadd Romney company "fix" of the voting machines may actually be true.

This just in...

There are more than two guys running...

http://2012-presidential-candidates.findthedata.org/

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Intelligent, thinking people have myriad choices, and tend to view all politicians with a healthy dose of skepticism...

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The way my luck is running, if I was a politician I would be honest.

For all of you who just can not get past Bengahzi, what is your response to the fact that it was the GOP who TWICE voted to cut spending to defend our embassies? What is your response to the fact that Bush and company ignored warnings about 9/11?

I would counter that McClellan could have finished off Lee's army in 1862 and saved hundreds of thousands of casualties

General Maxwell Taylor misled the Kennedy and Johnson Brain-tusts into believing that Vietnam was winnable.

That history began a long time ago and since then it's just been one thing after another....

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Dredging up the past doesn't win an argument, it PROLONGS it...

(See, an intelligent, thinking response!)

dangerfield: as long as we don't repeat the failures of the past.

If any of the alternative parties would have a chance to get in and do something, I might consider them. As it is, neither the Greens, the Libertarians or any of the other parties can seem to get enough candidates together, let alone a winning party.

Perhaps when the Republicans lose the White House, maybe enough disaffected Tea Partiers will leave and form their own party. That will allow the Republicans to go back to being a party of fiscal conservatives who are moderate on social issues and they will go back to trying to govern. We can only hope.

In the mean time, the only real choice left is the Democratic Party.

charemor says:

For all of you who just can not get past Bengahzi, what is your response to the fact that it was the GOP who TWICE voted to cut spending to defend our embassies?

Well - even the State Department admits the cuts had no effect on the security.

and then says:

What is your response to the fact that Bush and company ignored warnings about 9/11?

We're discussing the re-election of Barry O - not Bush. Barry O is complicit in the deaths of American he swore an oath to protect - and has been lying like a rug to cover his butt. Barry O has proven himself to be devoid of character, morals and compassion - a complete failure as a prasident and as a man.

Chuck - not true. We don't know ANYTHING until a thorough investigation is completed. All you are doing is spouting the GOP talking points - nothing is fact at this point. Grow up. The group devoid of character morals and compassion is the Republican party and you are clearly a charter member!

Obama/Biden

New Rule

If you voted for Bush (twice) who caused the deaths of thousands of Americans in Iraq.

You don't get to fake concern for 4 deaths of Americans in Libya.

You are both wrong - as usual.

First, there is quite a lot of documented evidence proving the information was given to the White House, that Barry was watching this unfold in real time with state department and military people. Barry says he's told the people all he knows about this - twice - and both times lying about that.Take off the blinders, put down the kool-aid.

Second - I voted against W both times - and still wish Gore had won Florida.

That, however, didn't keep me from recognizing what a low-life, no character, no morals buffoon Barry is. Kool-aid drinkers - you know - the ones that always vote party lines so they don't have to think and like being led around by the nose by NBC and CNN - can't take their heads out long enough to see the truth.

Yep, she does an outstanding Big Bird on the kid's shows. Not to mention those visits to the various talk shows.

Do you think she actually works in the WH garden, or was someone hired for that responsibility?

I hope future first Ladies don't follow the vacation path she takes, spending taxpayer money for her junkets.

Yes, those nutriational programs are doing well in the schools. Kids complain about not having enough to eat with much food thrown out.

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi-

TheRWNJ's are running out of talking points...

O&Joe 2012 (In a Lanslide)

1funnygirl: Could you post a responsible source for what you claim?

I'm with you Steeler Fan. If Ann Romney told me she was heartbroken over the misery of others, it just wouldn't feel as deeply genuine to me. A woman approached Mitt during the campaign sobbing that she hoped he won and would then do something to help destitute people like her family... Mitt was at first delighted by her support, but she was crying so loudly that he ended up basically pushing her away from him with a "Well...God Bless You!". I want people in government who really care about other people, and care enough to use "genuine GM parts" when they try to FIX something!

Nope new day, I'm doing a Feisty today.

From where I observe both the President and the First Lady care very much about ordinary people. From comments made by Ann Romney I doubt she would care as much. She'd rather they "eat cake".

Mitt certainly doesn't care. The canned food drive was a feeble attempt to make him look like he cares but as usual he acted before talking to the right people. The Red Cross said they didn't want the food donations but preferred money as they have the contacts and resources to better help than a few hundred cans of tuna fish can do.

A sociopath such as Mitt Romney will fein caring but they really only care about their own self interest. The canned food thing was merely a means to an end. A way Romney thought would make him look like he actually cared about people when he really doesn't.

The Sociopath in Chief

Friday, August 17th, 2012 | Posted
by Michael Chester
Can We Survive a Romney Presidency?

By
Michael Chester

Webster’s Dictionary defines a
sociopath as: “someone who behaves in a dangerous or violent way towards other
people and does not feel guilty about such behavior.” In everyday usage it can
be used to mean someone who has no conscience; someone who only cares about
what benefits himself or herself with no regard for the suffering or loss of
others.

When most people tell a lie, they
have “tells.” They may look away, give too much or too little detail, have
increased heart rate and many other indicators. They feel a sense of guilt for
lying and it shows. For a sociopath, lying comes naturally and without that
pesky conscience, they can be very convincing. Their only concern is getting
what they want.

The most famous sociopath from
recent history is probably, serial killer, Ted Bundy. He was intelligent,
charming and handsome: a deadly combination for a sociopath. He was able to
charm young women into trusting him even during a time when women should have
been even more aware of ‘stranger danger” than they normally are. His
sociopathy served him well. He could lie convincingly and his charm and
handsomeness only made him more attractive.

There are several jobs that are
perfect for the sociopath, such as being a hit man. Feeling no guilt, he is
able to carry out the murder simply to make money. A normal person would suffer
tremendous feelings of guilt for that type of behavior. A military sniper can
justify his job believing that what he does is for the greater good and may
save the lives of people on his side, but in talking to former soldiers who
were snipers, they said that they still have some conflicted feelings about
what they had to do. A sociopath would feel no conflict.

Another good job for a sociopath is
as a vulture capitalist. This is a person who takes control of a valuable
company, sucks out all of the money and discards what is left. He has no regard
for those individuals who have spent their lives building a company they can be
proud of or the employees that lose their jobs as a result. His only concern is
how much money can be made. By now, most of you have heard of the trail of
destruction left by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital. For those not familiar with
their behavior I will give a brief analogy. Suppose you borrowed money and
bought a new car. Upon its delivery, you took it to a chop shop and had all of
the valuable parts removed and sold. You then took what was left to a scrapyard
and sold it as scrap. You then filed for bankruptcy and got out of paying back
the car loan, but keeping all of the money you got along the way. If you had a
lot of chutzpah you might even file an insurance claim to get paid for the loss
of the car. Of course, in the real world, you would be arrested and charged
with multiple counts of fraud, but in Mitt Land this is all legal.

A lot of jokes have been made about
strapping his dog to the roof of the car for a road trip, but how could anyone
with an ounce of human compassion for his family’s pet treat him so cruelly?
Only a sociopath would put his convenience ahead of the health and safety of
his children’s pet. Why? To have more room for his valuables or maybe so he
didn’t have to listen to the dog’s barking. Animal cruelty is one of earliest
indicators of a sociopathic personality and often precedes human cruelty.

As a candidate, Mitt Romney has
changed his position on so many things so many times, that the running joke is:
“If you don’t like Mitt’s position on something, wait five minutes and he will
change it.” As a sociopath, he has no problem saying whatever he feels his
audience wants to hear. All politicians do this to a point, but most have a
line that they won’t cross. If such a line exists for Mitt Romney, no one has
yet to see it.

He has that same deadly combination
of traits that Ted Bundy had; he is charming, handsome, educated, and
intelligent. Unlike Bundy, his goals are money, power and prestige, not literal
rape and murder. These are more socially acceptable goals and I guess we can be
grateful for that. Many “normal” people share these goals and attributes and
there is nothing wrong with them, it is how you go about achieving them. The
sociopath will do whatever it takes with the only limits being what he can get
away with.

Along the way he has picked up some
endorsements that one could reasonably question. He has been endorsed by the
National Rifle Association as a pro gun candidate even though his history is
far from a pro gun position. Here is a brief history of how his position has
“evolved.”

From the 2008 Opposition Research
report prepared by the McCain Campaign.

• In 1994 Senate race, Romney backed
  Brady bill and assault weapons ban, saying “I don’t line up with the NRA” and
  “that’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA.”
• Romney called Clinton crime bill “a
  big step forward.”
• As governor, Romney quadrupled gun
  licensing fees and vowed not to “chip away” at tough gun laws
• In 2004, Romney signed permanent
  state-level ban on assault weapons that was mirrored after federal assault
  weapons ban.
• In January 2006, Romney said he
  owned a gun – then two days later admitted he did not and the gun belonged to
  his son.
• Romney bragged about being member of
  the NRA but later revealed he didn’t join until August 2006, just before
  launching his presidential campaign.
• Romney recently said he’s “been a
  hunter pretty much all my life” but later admitted he hunted only twice in his
  life, later clarifying remarks by claiming he has hunted “small varmints … more
  than two times.”
• In 2006 press conference, Romney
  claimed he had been hunting “many times” after returning from quail hunt in
  Georgia.

In an editorial endorsing Mitt
Romney, Guns and Ammo Magazine writer Doug Howlett stated:

Life Under Romney

Whether you believe Romney is a true
champion of the Second Amendment or feel he’s saying what he must to get
elected, odds are if the NRA helps him win, his gratitude will be such that he
won’t do anything to upset that support throughout his term. That means it is
doubtful we will see a return to any “assault weapons” bans or other federal
legislation that will infringe upon gun rights. Without question, where gun
rights are concerned, Romney is the hands down choice.

Now there is a ringing endorsement.
What he is actually saying is that no matter what Mitt Romney actually
believes, he has received his thirty pieces of silver (actually with inflation
it is several million pieces of silver) and is now bought and paid for. He will
do whatever we tell him to do.

To be fair, President Obama has also
shifted his position on gun control over the years. As president, he has signed
legislation that permits Amtrak passengers to carry guns in their checked
baggage and another that allows visitors to national parks and wildlife refuges
to possess concealed guns. He has not pushed for actions he supported in his
2008 campaign, including closing the so-called “gun show loophole” that allows
unlicensed private firearm sellers to sell weapons at gun shows without
conducting the background checks and reporting requirements that registered gun
dealers must conduct.

Here is a clip from the HBO series,
Newsroom. The show is a fictional account of a TV news station, but the facts
presented here and the clips within the clip are real.

The bottom line on the gun issue is
that regardless of the outcome of the election, not much will change. The
president does not have the authority to usurp the second amendment and
Congress does not have the will to substantially change the laws.

Romney has promised that if elected,
on day one he will repeal “Obamacare.” He has also promised to do about 20
other things on day one so it should be a busy day. Of course, the health care
legislation was passed by congress and signed into law and it would take an act
of congress to repeal it so he lying again. The Supremes have upheld the
penalty on those who can afford to purchase health care insurance but choose
not to, calling it a tax. Of course, Mitt has jumped on the word “tax” and is
now claiming that Obama is imposing a new high tax on everyone. The tax only
applies to those who are able to afford insurance and choose to not buy it.
Here, let me have an expert explain it in detail, as reported on Fox News. (not
exactly a bastion of liberal views)

Mitt Romney has finally chosen a
clone er… running mate and I find the choice of Paul Ryan to be a curious one.
I don’t see an advantage in this choice as supporters of Ryan were already
firmly in Romney’s camp. It also focuses scrutiny on the Ryan budget plan, a
plan so extreme that even some conservatives find it onerous. Romney has his
own plan to benefit the one percent, but it is slightly different. Basically it
treats the middle class like a target company from his Bain days. Squeeze all
of the money out that you can and discard what is left.

I can understand the disappointment
people feel towards Barack Obama: I feel much of it myself. The economy has
only made modest gains and we are still in Afghanistan. At least he has
resisted attacking Iran, which I believe is in Romney’s plans. If there were a
“none of the above” option on the ballot, I believe that none would win in a
landslide, but given the reality that the real choice boils down to Obama and
Romney, the choice should be obvious. Hold your nose and do what you have to
do.

This sums it all up.

Certainly, while no Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gasey Romney does show that he is a sociopath. Perhaps if he weren't as wealthy as he is he would be right up there in fame with Bundy and Gacey.

zwoman2012, republicans are guilty

www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/1005/Libya-attack-Congressmen-casting-blame-voted-to-cut-diplomatic-security-budget

Cause and effect.

Obama's sacrifice of Americans at Benghazi is a simple, clear example of the incompetence that makes Obama unfit to be our President. There are many, many other examples, but this is the one that is currently being covered up and stonewalled. It is an ongoing issue that is being inadequately covered in the left-wing media.

I am actually starting to miss TRUTHER "Paul"...

Oh I did Capt. Smash, I did. But Obama ordered me to "stand down!" He didn't want any of his Muslim Brotherhood buddies getting hurt.

Did you ever stop to consider, Kannin, that you should turn off Fox "news"? It kills brain cells.

Like I said all talk no fight. You never did anything but run your mouth with fox news talking points

@Kannin

Please provide verifiable information on exactly how President Obama is connected to the Muslin Brotherhood? Surely, you must have reliable sources to back up this blanket accusation.

Obama/ Biden

The President is suspected of concealing a MUSLIN BLANKET...

You heard it here first!

Oh, all right, I can definitely follow the thread now.

dangerfield - OH NO! You found the blanket????? Darn it!

Obama/Biden 2012

It's unraveling as we speak!

I have no doubt that the first lady's heart is broken. That shuld be a given for any American in this Country.

However, I still don't like her husband's Policies and Ideoloy.

NBC (National Barrack Campaign). Are you ever going to report on the last Cable sent by the Embassador? Are you folks not interested why he was kill?

so new day, are you suggesting that only liberal media outlets tell the truth and Fox should be banned?

What's an Embassador ? And why do you not know that the past tense of kill is killed ?

I don't think you are any kind of Citizen, certainly not a "Concerned" one.

dirp - I'm still chuckling. I'm soooo glad I have her on ignore but occasionally she is good for a laugh!

Obama/Biden 2012

When the only thing you have is a hammer...

...you know the rest

Would that hammering be in the morning or in the evening?

Would you hammer in OHIO, in Florida, In Virginia... all over this land ???

Hottest first lady ever.

Your another reason why need publicly funded abortions.

No, I just think you're an idiot for believing a 'coverup' occurred when the information you are getting to 'prove' your coverup is coming from the very people you are accusing of covering it up. Do you realize how asinine that sounds?

Our country is at war with terrorists. Sometimes the terrorists attack back. Sometimes they kill people. Instead of honoring our ambassador, who by all accounts, loved the Libyan people and wanted nothing but the best for that country, you have instead turned it into a political football. His father has asked you to stop it. The parents of other victims have asked you to stop it. But you won't.

Why?

Because it's all you have at this point. Your 'news' network has covered this stupidity for 55 minutes out of every hour for the last three days, despite the fact that this nation is in the middle of facing one of the greatest national disasters in decades. Do you even realize how bad it is? Or are you so caught up in Fox that you think this hurricane is basically just like every other hurricane and will just sort of blow over?

Get. Over. It.

The terrorists attacked back. We lost some people. It was horrible and the best way to honor them is to continue the work they were there to do and the work they wanted to spend their lives doing.

Bravo, Michael Thompson, very well said!

Obama/Biden

Our country is at war with terrorists. Sometimes the terrorists attack back. Sometimes they kill people. Instead of honoring our ambassador, who by all accounts, loved the Libyan people and wanted nothing but the best for that country

The Libyan people loved out ambassador. Tens of thousands of them marched in pro-US rallies and they took to the streets to run the islamist militias out of Benghazi. If the trigger happy war mongering neocons would of had their way, those Libyans who marched in favor of us would be outraged at being attacked by the US, the fledgling pro-US government would be undermined, and the islamist would be stronger than ever. Of course, they all think this is a Sylvestor Stallone movie in which the credits will roll and everyone will live happily ever after. Simplistic, stupid and entirely Republican!

Ah Michel, you miss the point. Could they have been supported, who told the military to stand down and why did they make this call.

Why were two high ranking military flag rank officers removed from their jobs after this happened?

You don't find this to be something we should all know about?

1funnygirl

Ah Michel, you miss the point. Could they have been supported, who told the military to stand down and why did they make this call.

Why were two high ranking military flag rank officers removed from their jobs after this happened?

You don't find this to be something we should all know about?

nice straw man argument. No one is claiming that we shouldn't look into what happened at Benghazi. No one is saying that we shouldn't determine what the intelligence failures were and correct the problems, or that this incident is insignificant and not worthy of attention.

What we are saying is that national security issues shouldn't be a political football, used in the rovian election game to smear and slander the commander in chief when many of the decisions on the consulate (not embassy which has a completely different security force of US marines while a consulate relies on the host country to defend) never came to his desk, but was handled by the state department. Funding for consulate security was cut by congress, so if you're so outraged, i'd look at your congressional representative and burn their ear off for not funding our ambassadors security needs (i've already done so by email).

There weren't outrages against previous administrations when embassies, consulates, and military bases were attacked, and to do so with this instance just shows the partisan agenda you have. That is why most people have problems with the way Fox and the right wing blogosphere is handling Benghazi. They didn't give a rat's arse about the embassy/ambassador attacks under 43, but now 4 Americans dead in the middle east is cause for impeachment. hypocrisy at its finest.

Tzalaran - beautifully stated.

Obama/Biden 2012

Tzalaran,

Just today many liberals on this site talked about 911 and Bush not doing enough. How does that outrage differ from Bhengazi?

Seeking Sanity, I thought you had me on ignore? You should dearie.

1funnygirl

Tzalaran,

Just today many liberals on this site talked about 911 and Bush not doing enough. How does that outrage differ from Bhengazi?

false analogy. 11 years have passed, and Bush isn't running for office. 6 weeks after 9/11/2001 you didn't have a democrat manufactured controversy about the 9/11 attacks, you had bipartisan support for a sitting president in a time of horror. There wasn't a political party and "news" channel flooding misinformation to the public about the cause of the terrorist strike back then, and people weren't blaming bush for the incident. that came years after when it had been examined without bias, and the facts were revealed.

See the difference, or are you just blinded by your political affiliation and content to use faulty logic to defend against the cognitive dissonance?

i'll be the first to hold President Obama to task for what he is responsible for (i'm not a big fan of the enhanced drone strikes, how he's followed the bush doctrine on surveillance, and how he's running a kill list as judge jury and executioner), but i'll not sit by and watch him be falsely accused of things when it is for purely political purposes.

The facts are this as i see them: The president's platform does the most good for the most people of this country, and for that reason alone i prefer him. The policies that Mr. Romney wants to enact have already been done in american history. The result was the roaring '20s and the crash that came after, also known as the great depression. The past 11 years of war has shown us that a war will not stimulate our economy like WWII did to stop the great depression, so we need to try new ideas and new things in order to move this country into the 21st century, or we'll just be another speed bump in history. You can either learn from history, or be doomed to repeat it.

i prefer to learn.

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO Micheal !

It comes from an entire generation being basically raised by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter and believing that's the way to talk to people. It also comes because they have not had a political candidate for president who has truly inspired them since 1984, so they believe that every political candidate more or less sucks and the sort of crappy cynicism they feel about the political process is the way everyone feels.

Totally agree with you, malarson. I read a comment on another thread and the person was spouting off more or less that he/she thinks it sucks big time that American tax payers are going to have to pay for the self inflicted super storm(head scratcher on that little assessment) that has all but decimated many areas of the east coast, and specifically NY. Now, I don't know about you or any others, but I would say that most of us are happily willing to do our part as Americans to help pay for some of the destruction that has ruined so many lives and taken precious lives. I have no problem whatsoever paying a little more out of my paycheck to help in recovering the financial burden this puts on our country. That is, to me, the extreme difference between us and "those people".

Michel,

Sure, the conservatives and moderates listen to Fox, as the liberals listen to the host of pundits who call conservative women various names: the B word, the C word and nothing is said about it.

A conservative woman speaks her opinion and the left wing whackos go wierd.

See something wrong here?

How's the banking environment in charlotte doing these days Michel?

As opposed to conservatives who have sought to pass legislation that would stick wands into women's "C" words.

gizalynn, I can only imagine what crap came out of "its" mouth as you see I have "it" on ignore. I grew tired very quickly of "it's" moronic rants. "It" is a known troll that many of us simply ignore as "it" never has anything of substance to add to a conversation and is often straight up lying. You will see that "it" often follows me, and a few others, around like a love sick stalker. Don't comment on "it's" avatar. Seems "it" is having some kind of twisted fantasy that Feisty, a very vocal regular on FR, is Jen Psaki, who is with the Obama campaign, so "it" is actually using a picture of Jen Psaki as "its" avatar. I'm telling you, some of the crossovers from the Fox Entertainment sight are some pretty sick and mentally disturbed individuals. Anyway, just thought I would provide you with a little background information on "it".

Oh darn, just when I was starting to have fun too. And honestly, I thought the picture was of Kathy Griffin. Thanks for the heads-up!

Obama/Biden

Oh, don't worry, you will find plenty of others on here who we have a hell of a good time messing with!

O&Joe 2012!

1funnygirl-Sure, the conservatives and moderates listen to Fox,

Its a very far stretch to think that "moderates" would watch FOX. I think its telling that FOX "News" was denied a license to broadcast from Canada because Canada has regulations forbidding News programs there to lie. What a slap down that was.

The FCC needs to reinstate the fairness doctrine again here,on News broadcasting. That would put a stop to all these right-wing TV and radio programs lying. I doubt that they would have to go off the air,but would be forced to clean-up their lying. Most of those people don't even believe their own lies anyway.They just do it to get a bigger audience and more money.

Touche, billybob. Very kind comment.

Neither does riding your horsey in the Olympics.

Uh, let's not.

Let's instead vote for the President whose intellect dwarfs the accumulated IQ of every candidate the Republicans put up this year. You know...the mixed race guy.

Guys like you, Joe, live in fear that your woman secretly desires a black man. So you strike out at the black man by attacking his woman because you also secretly fear getting your ass kicked otherwise.

MSNCCMFE - Your username says it all. Rave on with your fantasy lunatic boy. Another armchair psychoanalyst no doubt.