OHIO!!!!!!!!

Also today Rasmussen polling data make Obama the favorite.

"Charlie Turner, Demand Progress" <info@demandprogress.org>
" Pro-Romney firm owns Ohio voting machines"

"As this critical election nears, we're teaming up with our friends at CREDO Action to urge the Department of Justice to make sure there's no funny business in Ohio -- Will you join us?

Ohio could decide the election, and its voting machines are made by a company with very close ties to Mitt Romney. "

To quote this recent news article:

Click here to add your name to this petition to Attorney General Eric Holder:

"The Department of Justice must launch an immediate investigation into Hart Intercivic touch screen voting machines in Ohio, and take all actions necessary to block Republicans from stealing the 2012 presidential election with voting machines tied to the Romney family and campaign."

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"Voting machines tied to the Romneys could decide the election in Ohio.

Could a voting machine company with deep financial ties to the Romney family help Republicans steal the presidential election in Ohio?

It could happen. If this year's presidential election comes down to the electoral votes in Ohio, the deciding votes could be cast on electronic voting machines manufactured by Hart Intercivic.

Tell the Department of Justice: Don't let Republicans steal the election in Ohio with Romney-owned voting machines. Click here to sign the petition.

A 2007 study conducted by Ohio's Secretary of State showed that Hart Intercivic's touch screen voting machines could be easily corrupted. The New York Times reported:

At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.¹

Hart Intercivic is majority owned by H.I.G. Capital which controls two of the five seats on the Hart Intercivic board. An investment fund with deep ties to the Romney family and the Mitt Romney for president campaign, H.I.G. Capital was founded by Tony Tamer, a major bundler for the Romney campaign, and it is one of the largest partners of Solamere Capital, an investment fund founded by Tagg Romney and Spencer Zwick, Mitt Romney's chief fundraiser from the 2008 presidential campaign.² This makes the Romney family part owner of the voting machine company, through it's interest in H.I.G. Capital.

Tell the Department of Justice: Don't let Republicans steal the election in Ohio with Romney-owned voting machines. Click here to sign the petition.

What's more, three other H.I.G. Capital directors are major fundraisers for the Romney campaign, and H.I.G. Capital is the 11th largest contributor to the Mitt Romney campaign.³ Two of the company's directors, Douglas Berman and Brian Schwartz, were even in attendance at the Boca Raton fundraiser⁴ where Romney infamously declared:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what… who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it… These are people who pay no income tax…[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.⁵

And as if the ties between Tagg Romney's Solamere, Romney contributors at H.I.G. Capital, and Hart Intercivic weren't astonishing enough, two members of Hart Intercivic's 5-member board of directors made direct contributions to the Romney campaign. That's right. Directors of the company that makes touchscreen voting machines that could decide the presidential election in Ohio, have made contributions to the Mitt Romney for President campaign.

It is disturbing and dangerous that Hart Intercivic, the company that makes the machines that will count many of the votes in Ohio on election night has deep financial ties to family members of Mitt Romney. And that its leadership has been actively involved presidential campaign by donating and bundling hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Mitt Romney. The fact that these machines are easily corruptible touch screen voting machines makes matters even worse.

Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama are locked in a tight election race which could very well be decided by Ohio's 18 electoral votes. We must take action now."

http://act.demandprogress.org/go/749?t=12&akid=1823.527534.FLieYN

"Thank you for all you do to protect the integrity of our Democracy.

Becky Bond, Political Director
CREDO Action from Working Assets

1. Bob Driehaus, "Ohio Elections Official Calls Machines Flawed," New York Times, December 15, 2007.
2. Rick Ungar, "Romney Family Investment Ties To Voting Machine Company That Could Decide The Election Causing Concern," Forbes, October 20, 2012.
3. "Mitt Romney (R) Top Contributors." Open Secrets, October 1, 2012.
4. Dave Gilson, Who Was at Romney's "47 Percent" Fundraiser?, Mother Jones, Sept. 18, 2012.
5. MoJo News Team, "Full Transcript of the Mitt Romney Secret Video," Mother Jones, September 19, 2012."

Dedicated to KJNC and other Cliff Notes loyalists:

Updated as of 1:30am EST on Thursday, November 1 (Happy All Souls Day!):

With only 119 hours left to go in the 2012 presidential campaign, Real Clear Politics has Obama leading in eight of their eleven toss-up states with Romney leading in three.

In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 1:30am EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:

In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead has dropped slightly to 4.6%, down from Tuesday's 4.7%. Nonetheless, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 95.3% chance of victory here, up 1.1% from Tuesday.

In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 4.0%, up substantially from Tuesday's 2.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.9% chance of victory here, up a significant 3.2% from Tuesday.

In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 3.0%, down significantly from Tuesday's 4.0%. However, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.1% chance of victory here, an unchanged percentage from that of Tuesday.

In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.4%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 84.9% chance of victory here, up a substantial 5.2% from Tuesday.

In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.3%, up slightly from Tuesday's 2.1%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 79.3% chance of victory here, up a substantial 6.0% from Tuesday.

In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 1.3%, down significantly from Tuesday's 2.3%. However, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 75.8% chance of victory winning here, up 1.9% from Tuesday.

In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 1.0%, down significantly from Tuesday's 2.0%. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 76.0% chance of victory here, up a substantial 5.7% from Tuesday.

In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 0.5%, up from Tuesday's tie. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 62.1% chance of victory here, up a substantial 6.7% from Tuesday.

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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 0.5%, up from Tuesday's tie. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 60.1% chance of victory here, up 2.3% from Tuesday.

In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 1.2%, down slightly from Tuesday's 1.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 59.5% chance of victory here, down a substantial 5.2% from Tuesday.

In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 3.8%, up from Tuesday's 3.0%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney an 81.4% chance of victory here, an unchanged percentage from that of Tuesday.

So...

All in all, while Romney's polling percentages in six of the eleven toss-ups has improved over the past two days, his chances of winning in four of these six (Pennsylvania, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Virginia) has actually declined. This curious development is a function of Romney losing the race against the clock where his gains are simply not occurring quickly enough to make a difference.

In any case, in order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route appears to be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Wisconsin at 4.0%, Michigan at 3.0%, Nevada at 2.4%, and Ohio at 2.3%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.

However, should Obama fail to hold Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently predicting Obama victories:

Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but wins Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.

Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.

Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the nation, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:

Path #3: Obama comes from behind to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Wisconsin at 4.0%, and Michigan at 3.0%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.

For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal a victory in Colorado where Obama's lead today rose to 0.5% and in Ohio where Obama's lead today settled at 2.3%. By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275.

Should Romney fail to steal Ohio he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 0.5%, New Hampshire at 1.0%, Iowa at 1.3%, and Nevada at 2.4%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.

In either scenario, however, Romney must hold Florida at all costs.

FiveThirtyEight this morning estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 78.4% (up from yesterday's 77.4%) and Romney 21.6% (down from yesterday's 22.6%).

FiveThirtyEight also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 300 (up from yesterday's 299) and Romney 238 (down from yesterday's 239).

Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.5% (up from yesterday's 50.4%) and Romney 48.6% (also up from yesterday's 48.5%).

With only 119 hours of campaigning left, the fog finally appears to be lifting on this one.

Not only did the Romney Campaign completely fake the donated goods collection, while volunteers were packing up the contraband, they had to wait for Ryan to show up so he could do another pretend-to-be-helping photo op. Talk about

These are the guys you want?? Really??? You're SURE????

Obama/Biden 2012 Because real leaders don't need to fake it.

msnbcmfe - I enjoy reading your statistics - long but enjoyable, but atleast they're factual. I don't think there was anyone who thought it would be a landslide, well maybe a few. I find that people are voting against Obama as much as voting for Romney, which could explain his negativity in the polls all those awful ads.

Obama hasn't been perfect, but I think Obama has been wrongly blamed for many things in his time including this "recession". Republicans and those blue-dog Democrats blocked every jobs bill put out there by Obama, remember Congress just voted down the Veterans Jobs Bill. Many people think we should be out of this downturn by now, Obama has had 4 years- what the heck has he been doing all this time. A mess was left by GWB and the Republican Congress hasn't helped a dang bit. Well folks the Great Depression lasted from 1929 to 1941, virtually 12 years, only WWII helped.

Some people on this blog have so much hate for Obama, they don't sound rational and its scary. I only pray you are right in your analysis. After all George Bush only won in 2004 by 2.4%. This should make some mad. It is said he stole that election too-http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110804_stolen_election.shtml

The memo, from an adviser to a local GOP campaign, said that the Democratic turnout effort is “cleaning our clock.”

http://saintpetersblog.com/2012/10/in-early-voting-florida-gop-operative-says-democrats-are-cleaning-our-clock/

To all of my NH Friends... Mitt is not the solution to anything.

hungrymongoose

Nice try libbies. Romney is going to win and you just can't stand it!

Now there's a true GOP'er.

I want the world to be flat so I will just say so!!

a lead is a lead...for the president

4 more years.

"Nice try libbies. Romney is going to win and you just can't stand it!"

• What are you smoking? Most realistic Republicans were already working on their 'why we lost' speech even before Sandy. Since Sandy Mitt has been exposed for even more of a fraud.

@ steve

With respect to you.

Mitt hasn't created anything. I lived in NH as MA folks fled from Mitt's governorship.

starsailing

YES GRAMMA....ROMNEY EVEN HIRED BLACKS TO SHOW UP AT NCAAP MEETING AND HIRED THEM TO APPLAUSE WHEN HE SPOKE...! RYAN TOOK CLEAN POTS AND PANS AND STAGED FAKE HELPING A SOUP KITCHEN FOR THE POOR!

AS FAKE AS THE TWO CLOWNS/LIARS ARE...DON'T TRUST THE POLLS, GET EVERYONE OUT TO VOTE.

starsailing

WHY DO ROMNEY/RYAN AND REPUBLICANS HATE SENIORS?

WHY DO REPUBLICONS CREATE VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS TO STOP THE ELDERLY FROM VOTING?

starsailing

ROMNEY THE LYING COWARD CAUGHT LYING AGAIN WITH FAKE CHARITY DRIVE YESTERDAY!!!!

....a compilation of raving idiotic spouting from and angry Leftist/Socialist....and not one shred of proof/evidence to back him up, just his libelling opinions. Hyperbole and obfuscation are your only weapons - sad and pathetic.

.......It's just a privilege to watch how your liberal mind works............yes, that's sarcasm!

i lived in nh as ma folks fled from mitt's governorship.

Yeah right RUSTY..was this during the time ROMNEY'S APPROVAL RATING WAS AT 66% OR AFTER HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND THE SCUMBAGS IN MASS ABANDONED HIM?

@ ticked

Before.

Rustyboy-FL

@ steve

With respect to you.

Mitt hasn't created anything. I lived in NH as MA folks fled from Mitt's governorship

One word................HYPERBOLE

It's clear that the myth of "Mittmentum" is dead for good. Incessant "working the refs" in the media can't change the facts...this race hasn't really moved in MONTHS. Putting Lyin' Ryan in the VP slot has made virtually no difference, even in Wisconsin. The President's weak performance in the first debate made a little difference, but not enough. The vast amounts of personal wealth spent by Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers, and their ilk has made precious little difference, though perhaps only because vast numbers of "lesser Americans" have contributed in opposition to protect our democracy.

The end result is that the battleground states remain exactly as they were at the beginning of the Summer. The Romney campaign hasn't expanded the fight against President Obama...not even slightly. Meanwhile the Obama campaign has been able to stay competitive in states Romney should have been able to put away months ago, like Florida and Virginia.

This is a highly advantageous terrain for President Obama, which is why Nate's numbers are as they are. Add in the Obama campaign's strong advantage in ground game (GOTV) and the outcome is strongly in the President's favor. That last is something the wealthy elites haven't been able to figure out how to replicate.

But just because the GOPTP's "carpet bomb with money" strategy isn't working that's no reason not to worry about the future. The legalized bribery of Citizens United MUST be corrected.

I read where on Romney's first day in office he is going to grant all 50 states waivers for Obamacare. Then it will be Congress' turn to pass the legislation to repeal it. I wonder who he is going to pick for his cabinet. More than likely smart business people like him and not foaming at the mouth ideologues. In my dreams I see him, along with congress, slashing government spending by 40%. Creating, with Congress, a budget surplus and paying down our debt. I've always been taught to make your mark by leaving this world better then you found it. Putting the kibosh on 11,0000 pages of new government regulations implemented in the past 4 years. This 7.45% increase in government regulation costs businesses and households over $150 billion a year. Think of the new jobs created with all that freed up capital?

As long as we remain a two party system they have a crutch, either one can make up excuses and blame it on the other. You can take all your think you know research and facts and throw it out the window, it is unprovable when congress runs like a circus on purpose. As long as there is a two party system the middle class is done for..

We're monkeys in a cage.

Steve1962, care to share how many REAL Job Bills the GOP have passed in 4 years to help the middle-class? I'll be waiting for the list...

I was driving into work today and they were playing a man on the street segment from here in downtown Atlanta. The question was who were they going to vote for? Instead of working people they interviewed the homeless. What I found amazing were the responses. I believe the split was 60% Obama and 40% Romney. One guy even said that he was voting for Romney. When asked why he stated that Obama had his shot. That it was time for a new guy. That it was Romney's turn. The biggest shocker of all was that all the respondents were black.

Sven, how will we get out of the economic depression caused by suddenly crashing government spending by 40%?

Still no story on Benghazi....

Funny how the same idiots that re-elected Bush after allowing a terrorist act in NY and losing thousands of Americans with intelligence about it months in advance are making such a fuzz about Benghazi which is on the other side of the world and with no proof that Obama was aware.

I don't want to see a LIAR in the White House that's why I'm voting for Obama !!!!!!!!!!!!

American Automakers to Romney, stop lying about offshoring jobs, your ads are putting our jobs in jeopardy, we had enough with this jacka$$ - Mr. Mitt Romney, STOP with the Lying !!!!!!!!!!!

Right now there is not undecided voter not even among the independents, none of the people that post in this left wing vine are undecided, so no comments are going to change the mind of anybody. So there is no need for unsults and name calling. However looking at the percentage of posters there is an slight majority of left wingers but not impressive like it was in 2008. Democrats and Obama are losing support among previous voters, while Romney is getting much more support among Republicans , independents and some Democrats that don't care about the lies from Axelrod and Carter , something to worry about for the Obama supporters in this vine. Any poll that come from the media are favoring one or other candidate, only Rasmussen and Gallup are independent and in both Romney is ahead. Romney will be the next president of the USA. Go and Vote every vote count.

If you want 4 more of the same Obama is your man.

If you want a jump start to our economy , a leader that know how to work bipartisan with succes Romney is your man.

BO 2012

Funny how the same idiots that re-elected Bush after allowing a terrorist act in NY and losing thousands of Americans with intelligence about it months in advance are making such a fuzz about Benghazi which is on the other side of the world and with no proof that Obama was aware.

Its not about what O'bama "allowed" It is about the cover up of how he handled it. BO, use some deoderant

Another survey on Tuesday gave him (Obama) a 31-point lead in Massachusetts.

Tell me again how great a governor Wrongme was. If he was a good leader, imagine how big Obama's lead would be if he was crappy!!! LOL

Your robot boy is going down!!

Obama/Biden 2012 - Romney/Ryan 1040

My My do we have a loser, That's Romney !!!!!!!!!!!!

I say don't give the keys back to the losers that got us into this mess, can you say "W" !!!!!!

Hey Red #1.52 don't sell your Country out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

izzyaintserious.......Your rant about everyone shows you are either lying or ignorant of current issues in the last two years......

Fact. Romney hired team of blacks and flew them to his speech at NCAAP meeting, Romney advisers handed list to NCAAP event organizer so he could get them in. Video shows complete crowd booing Mitt...while the $$$ blacks said woo hoo and clapped.

Fact. All voter suppression laws are createwd by republicans and aimed to prevent seniors and elederly, disabled from voting.

Fact. Romney declared 47% of American means nothing to him. These are seniors who have worked hard all their lives and are living on social security.

Fact. FAKE charity drive...what a lying coward , video of event platsered on every news channel except Fox fake news.....

Waiting for your apology ainstserious.......typical rt wing lie or ignorance...you tell us which one!

This has to be my favorite endorsement of Obama.

http://www.examiner.com/article/communist-party-endorses-barack-obama-for-re-election

Our school system is a failure in teaching democracy, capitalism, and freedom.

starsailing

Fact. Romney...........

Fact. Starling need urgent care. He lost his way back to the sanatorium.LOL

Romney lies hurt GM and Chrysler. This man has no integrity or scruples. Does anyone know what this guy stands for? I have never been so disgusted with someone as I am with Romney.

He failed to create jobs as Governor of Massachusetts. His business experience was about making money on other's misfortune for the most part. He has run one of the most dishonest campaign's in US history.

I wouldn't even vote for Romney to be dogcatcher. And he isn't even qualified for that.

starsailing

izzyaintserious.......Your rant about everyone shows you are either lying or ignorant of current issues in the last two years.....

Hahahahaha.......tell me your spin on Libya and 4 years of broken Barry Hollywood promises!

Sorry pal but what you state as fact is really just your puked up assumptions and accusations that, in your mind, have turned in to fact........so sorry that reality alludes your comprehension. My poor little friend, reality is a real bitch so stay where you are - it's safer for you!

.........and it's "izzyserious - see, you can't even get that right. It's a screen name that describes my intellectual disbelief when I see pathetic angry postings like yours and all the other hyperbolic and obfuscations posted by leftist/socialist induced stupidity.

ROMNEY/RYAN.....truth, honesty, integrity - something that has been missing for 4 years

ROMNEY FLIP FLOPS AND LIES AGAIN.

Romney says he wasn't going to CLOSE FEMA...he was going to CLOTHE FEMA....with a pack of shirts from COSTCO.

Romney reminds everyone Ann now shops at Costco and....shirts come 3 in a pack!

@ starsailing:

Typical libbie business as usual. Can't find anything of substance to say? Make something up!! Twist words around and lie your butt off. I understand how you got there - your messiah showed you how to do it, your leftwing media leads the way.

Izzyserious is correct. Offer up some proof of your charges or go away. Lying to push an agenda is pathetic behavioor - and just because Barry O does is not an excuse for yours.

Barry is a shameful no-account liar, without character, without morals and without compassion. Even the paid leftwing campaign workers posting here can't defend his behavior concerning the Benghazi attack. It speaks volumes that this story isn't carried by the mainstream media.

The libbies are getting desperate, they know which way this election is headed.

Romney sends aid to survivors of Hurricane. His aides bought all the fishing poles and tackle at Wal Mart and sent it to the survivors in flood area!

chuckypoo....I notice you just rant like dizzyserious....debunk my serious posts ....you can't...BECAUSE IT IS FACT.....move along people......break it up....nothing but facts here for you to see....

ROMNEY IS ORDERING MORE SUPPLIES FOR THE NAVY WHO ARE HELPING OFFSHORE IN THE DISASTER AREA.

SO FAR HE HAS 5000 EYE PATCHES, 1200 PEG LEGS, AND 24 PARROTS! GREAT jOB MITTSTER!

Meanwhile Romney has his accountants trying to figure out a way to buy FEMA so he can make profits from the recovery of dister victims

Why is it that some libs can't express themselves without insults? It's because they have nothing of substance to say. Name-calling is immature, just as saying "It's true because I say it's true".

SS, you can mumble "it's a fact" all day and it doesn't change the truth and it doesn't offer up proof - evidence of your claims. Again - offer up some proof or go away. You know - proof like the proof that Barry is lying about Benghazi:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/10/25/benghazi-obamas-actions-amount-to-a-shameful-dereliction-of-duty/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/17/obamas-benghazi-lie/

This is how adults back-up their arguements.

MSNBC is giving 20 minutes of airtime for Romney's speech again.

I never see them do this for Obama's speeches on morning shows.

I keep checking to see if I have Fox News on by mistake.

Even NBC knows Obama has lost, they have even started reducing the level of Democrat over-sampling in their "polls" to reduce their embarrasment when Romney wins in a landslide:

Wisconsin:
Strong Democrat 27
Not strong Democrat 7
Democrat leaning Independent12
Just Independent12
Republican leaning Independent12
Not strong Republican5
Strong Republican23
Other2

New Hampshire:

Strong Democrat 22
Not strong Democrat 4
Democrat leaning Independent 16
Just Independent 16
Republican leaning Independent 16
Not strong Republican 6
Strong Republican 19
Other 1

Iowa:

Strong Democrat 25
Not strong Democrat 8
Democrat leaning Independent 12
Just Independent 15
Republican leaning Independent 10
Not strong Republican 8
Strong Republican 23
Other 0

This is by far the most evenly-split polling NBC has done all year, it is still skewed toward Democrats but not nearly as much as usual.

When the propagandists began dialing back their propaganda you know they have realized that reality has prevailed and thay are only making themselves look foolish.

BO - maybe they'll give Barry 20 minutes airtime for his concession speech.

Izzyserious, nice to see you learned a new word. Hyperbole! Cool!

Now shut the f up and let the grownups talk, ya farkin idiot.

MSNBC was bought out by Comcast.

Soon all programming will lean Republican.

Geez BO - that'd be a 180 degree turn - a complete reversal!

It's shameful the way things are now - and dangerous. The media, for the most part, chooses which stories to run and through editing inclusion controls what people see. They are doing their best right now to protect Barry.

If the American people don't start demanding the truth - complete coverage of news items and a division between editorials and news - we lose one of the things that gave us freedom and separated us from Eastern Europe and Asia - a free press. Without the whole truth the news is just propaganda.

I have already voted a straight Democrat ticket. Why?

Unemployment peaked at 10% in 2009 and is now under 8% and dropping.

National debt is dropping.

The deficit is dropping.

housing prices are up.

And all of this has been done in spite of the anti-American republicons and their record setting number of filibusters, hostage taking, and extortion.

If you love America never vote republicon.

O and Joe 2012.

miklkit says:

I have already voted a straight Democrat ticket. Why?

Be honest. It's because that is what you always do - it's because you love the flavor of the kool-aid and don't want your fantasy confused and confronted by facts. It's because you always watch NBC and CNN and love letting them lead you around.

Hey Rusty, Those of us who fled Massachusetts for New Hampshire know that people were fleeing long before Mitt was governor.

Andre, no chance Obama will get 76% of the NH vote. I see many more Romney signs than Obama signs. Even my democrat friend has said to me "they're all corrupt scumbags, including Obama."

The polls are skewed. They purposely over-sample democrats and weigh voter turnout to the 2008 standard, which will not be the case in 2012.

The democrats are worried. Why else would they make a commercial with grandma threatening to "Burn the M'F'er down if Obama looses."......Nice try granny, riot near me I'll just tip you over..........

Unemployment peaked at 10% in 2009 and is now under 8% and dropping.

Only if you forget to count California in the calculations....

National debt is dropping.

Oh thank goodness!!!...I thought I heard debt of $23Trillion in the next 4 years if we stay the current course......So, Milkit, when does the debt start to get smaller??? Has it gone back to $15T yet??

Hello Toxic!

Some great points. Who knows whether or not Romney can turn this thing around. The one thing we know for sure is that Barry has demonstrated for four long years that he has no clue how to lead us out. Time for a change.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over - and expecting to get different results.

Toxic Chemist

The "great" Republican President Ronald Reagan almost tripled the national debt in his efforts to end the 82-83 recession and "Trojan Horse" huge tax cuts for the rich in the name of trickle down economics.

The 82-83 Recession was caused by Fed interest rate hikes designed to reduce inflation. As a result, the Fed was able to reduce its discount rate from 14% to 6% to stimulate the economy. The rich ended up with huge tax cuts and huge interest rate earnings, and have yet to give much of their "stimulative" tax cuts back. The top 1% earned 10% of our nation's total income in 1980 compared to 24% now. Their tax cuts added to our national debt (which they largely finance) almost every year since then.

Bush II did two stimulus tax cuts and we are still paying for those with larger deficits every year as a result. An unfunded prescription drug plan and two unfunded wars and you end up with nearly half of our annual budget deficit.

The other half of our deficit is the result of the Great Recession with its shrinking our economy (-8.5% in 4th quarter 2008) and reducing our tax revenues ($350 billion lost). The added cost of the unemployed amounts to nearly $200 billion.

Add together the results of Republican spending and tax cuts over the last 30 years and you will get an amount added to our annual budget deficit much larger than our annual budget deficit.

Republicans like to talk about balanced budgets, but when they are in control they only make the deficit bigger.

shaak;

Reagan and Bush are not up for re-election, neither is Clinton. We're deciding the fate of the Obama administartion.

Barry has had four years to do something - and two of those with a democratic controlled Congress, yet only made things worse. Barry has been unable to get a budget accepted even by his own party. Time to correct the mistake made in 2008. We don't know if Romney can get it reversed or not - there is no debating that Barry cannot.

Tomorrow the unemployment numbers come out. Wonder how NBC will spin it.


Ok lets take a real look at the numbers.

When Nixon-Ford left office the national debt was......-$653,000,000,000.00

When Carter left office the national debt was.............-$930,000,000,000.00

When Reagan left office the national debt was...........-$2,000,000,000,000.00

When Bush 1 left office the national debt was............-$4,000,000,000,000.00

When Clinton left office there was a surplus of..........+$127,000,000,000.00

When Bush 2 left office the national debt was............-$12,000,000,000,000.00

At the end of Obama's 1st term the national debt.......-$16,000,000,000,000.00

is a reduction from 1.5 trillion a year under

Bush 2 to 1 trillion a year for Obama's 1st term.

This is a reduction of one half trillion per year.

The economy was in free fall hemorrhaging 700,000

jobs a month, and spiraling into a second great

Depression. Obama stopped the free fall and the

Economy is turning around and improving. While not

at the rate everyone would like to see, it is a

whole lot better than the failed policies to which

Romney wants to return.

Clinton left us with a small surplus after the deficits

the previous administrations left us. Bush 2 annihilated

the surplus and had us back in debt as fast as he could,

stripping the nations wealth and putting much of it in the

hands of his cohorts leaving us with a debt of 16 trillion

dollars.

Obama has it going in the right direction and is slowing

the increase in our national debt.

I ask you, do you really want to return to the failed

policies that put us in this hole?

Bush ran us at 150% rate of our current deficit spending,

do we really want to return to these policies?

Do we want to move backward, both financially and socially,

or do we want to continue to move forward?

Republicans like to talk about balanced budgets, but when they are in control they only make the deficit bigger.

Shaak, I'd like to see Romney win and prove you wrong. We need somebody in the White House that understands how to run a business in these troubled times. ........Not a community organizer.

Nice to see you here on the 'Vine Chuck...

WHY DIDN'T PRESIDENT OBAMA REINSTATE THOSE US LAWS THAT MADE ILLEGAL THE CAUSES OF PREVIOUS DEPRESSIONS. That Resulted in the current $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc.. That he blames on President Bush as "inherited" when Bush did not eliminate those US Laws.

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA SPEND $2.1 TRILLION THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR, REQUIRING THE CURRENT CUTS TO PREVIOUSLY BUDGET PROGRAMS, PROJECTS, AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE ENTITLEMENTS, BENEFITS FOR THE "47%" THAT NEED THESE BENEFITS AND ENTITLEMENTS. PRESIDENT OBAMA'S PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL TO US CONGRESS DEMANDING CUTS.

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LEON PENETTA, 2012, STATE, "A 10% Defense Budget Cut will result in a Million (US) Civilians becoming Unemployed". Yet President Obama in his President's Proposal to US Congress demand a Defense Budget Cut of 11%.

WHAT US LAW DID PRESIDENT OBAMA VIOLATE THAT IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO THE US PRESIDENT. AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. As an admittance of Guilt SOS Clinton on Behalf of President Obama appologized to US Congress, "I'm sorry".

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA DEMAND THE OVERTHROW OF A FORMER US ALLY AND SUPPORTED THE FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC JIHADISTS TO OVERTHROW THE FORMER US ALLY. Al Quada Saudi Arabia (AQ), Al Quada Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Al Quada Syria (AQS), Al Quada Yemen (AQY), Hezbollah, Al Quada Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), etc. that became Ansar Al Sharia to protect and instate Fundamentalist Islamic Shia (Sharia) Law as the Rule of Law for Libya. Now Ansar Al Sharia is attacking the rest of Africa, like Mali, as Egypt was Strategic to attack Libya, Libya is Strategic to attack the rest of Africa.

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was killing US Military at Iraq. The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group due to President Obama is the current Government of Libya.

WHY IS PRESIDENT OBAMA LYING ABOUT WITHDRAWING FROM IRAQ. WHEN IN FACT THE FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMIC SHIA REPUBLIC OF IRAN HAD THE US KICKED OUT OF THE ISLAMIC SHIA NATION OF IRAQ. Result now the Chinese and Russian Federation Allies of the Fundamentalist Islamic Shia Republic of Iran got the Iraqis Oil that could have paid for the US And US Allies Liberation of Iraq with Decades to Centuries of Iraqis Oil. This made Libya's Oil of Strategic Importance to the US Europrean Allies.

WHY IS PRESIDENT OBAMA LYING ABOUT THE US MILITARY WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ. Numbers of Actual US Military still at Iraq.

WHY IS PRESIDENT OBAMA LYING ABOUT THE US INVOLVEMENT AT SYRIA.

WHY IS PRESIDENT OBAMA TAKING CREDIT FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS PREPLANNED LONG AGO AFTER PRESIDENT BUSH AMMENDED THE US NO ASSASSINATION POLICY, 2006, TO ALLOW THE TERMINATION OF OSAMA BIN LADEN. With the Mission to Locate and Capture Osama Bin Laden already put into motion since 2006. And failing Capture to gain all of Osama Bin Laden's planning and thought processes as imprinted on his Al Quada, to preemptively interdict all Al Quada International Francishes activities Worldwide. Failing Capture of this "High Valued Target" as the Last Resort the Termination of Osama Bin Laden, as a Mission Failure. President Obama just happened to be in Office while the CIA, Special Operations Command, Joint Special Operations Command was doing the above since 2006.

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA IN HIS 2012 STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS BACKPEDDAL ON HIS APRIL 2009 ORDERED DEFENSE BUDGET CUT OF THE USN (One Aircraft Carrier Strike Group). And why did he tell the US Public a Half Truth (actually a lie) that the USN Enterprise Aircraft Carrier will be decommissioned and scrapped after the current mission, long before the replacement CVN-80 is ready to replace CVN-65, if sea trials are successful 2015.

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA BACKPEDAL ON HIS OPPOSITION TO THE PRESIDENT BUSH US ABM MISSILES AT EASTERN EUROPE AGAINST THE IRANIAN MISSILE THREAT. President Obama stated there was no Iranian Missile Threat. December 2011 President Obama as Commander In Chief Ordered the deployment of US Military ABM Missile Batteries to Romania.

WHY IS PRESIDENT OBAMA ELIMINATING US CITIZENS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE&feature=fvst

Obama Signs NDAA, ACLU Disgusted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY

Feds' electronic snooping of Americans up sharply, says ACLU

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/feds-electronic-snooping-americans-sharply-says-aclu-6170914#

WHY WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA NEVER CONVICTED FOR VIOLATING THE US LAW, McCain Feingold Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, prior to and during the 2008-2009 Elections. And his Buddy, "Mr. Corporate America" admitted that President Obama did while getting the US Supreme Court to Rule in Favor of the Unlimited Corporate Campaign Contributions before the Citizens United case made it's way thru the US Courts; so that President Obama could get his Unlimited Corporate Campaign Contributions from the Insurance Corporations, Medical Device Corporations, and Pharmaceuticals Corporations.

WHY DID PRESIDENT OBAMA CHOP THE PAYMENTS TO CAREGIVERS TO SENIOR CITIZENS UNDER MEDICARE, AND DECREASE MEDICARE PAYMENTS TO MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. Instead of what he stated was the REAL Problem with Medicare, during his Face the Nation Interview, that the Insurance Corporations that manage Medicare are overcharging US Taxpayers by 14% to make Profits of $17 Billion to $18 Billion per year.

WHY DOES PRESIDENT OBAMA KEEP BLAMING "OBSTRUCTIONIST" CONGRESS, WHEN IN FACT HE KEEPS ON CIRCUMVENTING US CONGRESS "The Will of the People", keep clicking "Next", see anything Unconstitutional, TOUGH, that is what YOU previously Voted For:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions

PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT OBAMA'S VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR POLITICAL GAIN INFLAMED THE 1.5 BILLION ISLAMIC BELIEVERS WORLDWIDE TO VIOLENCE AGAINST THE US WORLDWIDE AS RELAYED TO THE ISLAMIC BELIEVERS AT ALL THE MOSQUES WORLDWIDE.

Biden at DNC : "Bin Laden is dead, General Motors is alive"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCwQnIygcw

With the Islamic Believer Demonstators and Islamic Jihadists Worldwide chanting:

"OBAMA OBAMA WE ARE ALL OSAMA" DEMO IN TUNISIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfaKSX3m7Tk

Cairo protesters- Obama we are all Osama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJGX1JzyFc

President Obama then blames this on a video that most did not see because many do not have electricity, cell service, nor internet; and were told the video existed by the Imams at the Mosques.

Result DEAD US CITIZENS and the Islamic World's Increased Hatred of the US for the "Murder" (their word) of their "Holy Warrior of Islam" Superstar Osama Bin Laden. This is worse than going to Italy Murdering the Pope, then Bragging Internationally about that. More previously pro US Islamic Believers and Neutral Islamic Believers against US.

And it was President Bush that kept GM alive with his: 2008 President Bush's GM and Chrysler Indicative Summary of Terms for Secured Term Loan Facility (Final Terms and Appendix).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/22/barack-obama/obama-says-bush-administration-put-no-conditions-a/

Chuck, and all you other "he's had 4 years" idiots,

First of all 4 years is nowhere near enough time to undo all the damage. Something conservatives don't seem to realize and/or give a s h i t about. Second of all, he really only had 2 YEARS, because the other two were WASTED by a do-nothing Congress that purposely sought to stymie any and all efforts at recovery, just to make the democrat look bad. Pardon my French, but how the F U C K can you defend that? Also, why are all the repugs ignoring the favorable economic reports? Housing starts, jobless claims, etc. ALL GETTING BETTER. But, you people never paid attention to facts before, why start now, right? Anything to get that uppity n e g r o e out of the White House, am I right? Oh and by the way, "Barry" is your president, you hateful a s s h o l e. Show some respect.

29 October 2012......................................

OHIO: ROMNEY 50 % ........... OBAMA 48%

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Ohio Voters shows Romney with 50% support to President Obama’s 48%. One percent (1%) likes some other candidate, while another one percent (1%) remains undecided.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president

tellyouwhat;

Another lib that cannot express himself or share a discussion without stooping to personal insults. It doesn't help your arguement - and believe me - you need all the help you can get.

Barry promised to cut the deficit in half - and promptly doubled it. He's three months short of having four years to deliever on his promises - and we all know he's not going to even get close. He had 2 of those four years with congressional support of his own party available - and failed to get anything done on his promise. He cannot even get his own party members to sign off on his budget proposals.

You are living in total denial of the facts - tunnel vision - and apparently unable to recognize the truth anymore.

I can't stand Rush Limbaugh, but I do agree with him on one thing. We might survive four more years of Obama but we can't survive the four years with those that would re-elect him.

It will be a great relief when President Obama is re-elected and can get back to doing what he does best -- leading our nation.

The past few days of Sandy have been proof once again of how he steps up and takes care of things with confidence.

The best things we can do for our country right now is to vote for the President, then vote a straight Democratic ticket unless there is an honorable Republican running that has a proven record that he can work toward compromise to find solutions to the great problems this country has endured since Bush was in office, and also -- just as important -- we should all, GOP and Dem's alike, vote every single one of the Tea Party members out.

The President has done more than anyone could have imagined, given the fact that the GOP swore when he was elected that they would do everything to thwart him as President, and with the treasonous Congress he has had for the last couple of years. Let's help him out and support him at the polls.

Toxic Chemist

Mitt ought to go back to running a business if he's so good at it. Our last MBA President did a pretty bad job as I recall. Businessmen may be good at business where microeconomics works, but to run a government, one must understand macroeconomics. Mitt and his Tea Party cohorts only have learned the lessons of microeconomics which does not apply when running an economy.

Austerity does not work in a time of high unemployment. Europe now has an unemployment rate of 11% for the entire Euro zone. Growth is the key to prosperity.

You're right Chuck. I normally don't respond so vehemently, and never resort to insults. I guess I just got fed up with hearing "It's been 4 years, so why aren't we singing Happy Days Are Here Again and throwing $100 bills around like Daddy Warbucks?" You must admit, that attitude is, well... short-sighted in the extreme is the kindest way I can put it. So, here's my official apolgy to you for acting the child. Sorry.

As for tunnel vision, that's a two-way street, my friend. We ALL see what we want to see when it comes to our candidates. I'm not in denial of facts. I know Obama is not perfect. I'm a Democrat, but not of the rabid variety that thinks he walks on water. However, I see more facts that support a second term for Obama, whereas you see more facts to support Romney.

How would you answer to my accusations regarding conservatives' tendancy to ignore economic improvements by categorizing them as statistical anomalies? And how about Congressional Republicans vowing to do whatever's necessary to ensure Obama was a one-term president, even at the cost of our recovery? Would you laugh that off as unfounded paranoia? I'm guessing you will.

What I really don't understand is all the Republican talk about 'unprecedented runaway spending' by his administration. The real numbers are very easy to verify with a little digging. A good place to start is a post much further up this page by Antistupidity. I urge you to re-read it.

And all this talk about what a 'successful businessman' Romney is and how that's exactly what America needs. As if his wealth proves he has integrity? How many businessmen become 'successful' by lying, cheating and stealing? Dismantling American companies and outsourcing manufactiring and other jobs is a really easy way to become a successful businessman with the right capital behind you.

At this point, I feel that most, if not all, conservatives are so anti-Obama, so hell bent on getting him out of office, that they are completely ignoring the lies and corruption. Pandering and flip-flopping? Who cares? Every politician does it. Romney is more dangerous than that. He will be a puppet for Big Business interests. Surely everyone knows that, even the most staunchly conservative voter. Which means we will be forced to run through another failure of trickle-down economics. A proven disaster, wouldn't you agree?

So, we have two choices. One candidate will serve the 1% with the assumption that when the wealthy get wealthier, we all do better. The other candidate will serve the other 99% knowing that middle class consumers are the real "job creators" when we spend our hard-earned cash.

I guess it all comes down to not who you believe, but WHAT you believe. I suppose we'll see on the 7th.

By the way, and this is not a personal dig at you, Rush Limbaugh is a dog turd.

shaak - Obama needs to retire to Hawaii ASAP.

silverton;

Barry is the spokesperson for your party. He's liar - no character - no morals and no compassion. All of these attributes proven by his handling of Benghazi, the murder of 4 Americans, Barry's refusal to help them and then 7 weeks of lies to cover it up - and you ask if there's an honorable Republican worthy of a vote. Correct the mistake we made in 2008. If Barry deserves four years it's in a prison cell, not the oval office.

A straight ticket? Really? Just admit that's what you always do and quit messing around. Voting a straight ticket is for people that refuse to think.

Reports coming in about the Early voting.

Colorado. Obama ahead in the early voting, but the democrat vote is down 70% over 2008 accordiing to a democrat writer for the Denver post.

Florida. Same thing.

It is sounding like the pattern is the same as in Ohio. The newly registered voting (higher enthusiams) and those having voted in more than 4 elections are not turning out.

Tellya What

Izzyserious, nice to see you learned a new word. Hyperbole! Cool!

Now shut the f up and let the grownups talk, ya farkin idiot.

Hahahahaha.....

My, my....tellya, are you still angry about how I stuck it to you the other day and are you looking for some kind of petty revenge? You really should try to get over it or it'll eat you up. Anger is the last argument of the ignorant, - I see you as living (?) proof of that......and try to come up with angry comments that are original - you and the rest of the liberal/socialist/marxist use the same ones all the time - you all must be reading the same playbooks - because none of you ever had an original thought of your very own. I'd talk more with you but you really have nothing intelligent to add to any conversation!

ROMNEY/RYAN....truth, honesty, integrity

tellyouwhat;

Apology accepted.

I've voted Democrat more often than Republican in the may years I've voted. I don't vote a straight ticket unless it just works out that way, I prefer to look at the individual and not the party.

I have no idea whether or not Romney can do better but I'm convinced that Barry will not. Added to that I think/know that Obamacare will be the final nail in the coffin for our economy - and then the attempted cover-up of Benghazi showed me what sort of man Barry is when nobody is looking - or so he thought.

Each and every candidate is suceptable to being a puppet - to the people that gave them the money and support to get elected, to the people that know where the bodies are buried. To believe otherwise is to be naive.

I believe - based on Romney's business experience and commitment to help develop small business by removing excess tax - not to mention removing Obamacare - that he has a better chance to get this thing rolling. His wealth proves acumen, his charity proves compassion, his serving in public office without a salary indicates commitment to the people.

I agree with you - more or less - about Rush, but ocaissionally he's right.

Mitt and his Tea Party cohorts.....

Hahaha....Mitt Romney a Tea Party candidate??? Hardly.

Mitt ought to go back to running a business if he's so good at it.

He is pretty good at making sound buisness decisions. How do you think he made his fortune? By figuring out what works and keeping it, and finding what doesn't work and cutting it. Democrats may find it callous, but you won't be successful in business by making decisions with one's heart.

Europe now has an unemployment rate of 11% for the entire Euro zone.

So why would you want to make Europe your economic model?

Could this be true?

Mitt Romney is behind the Benghazi, Libya attack

On the 47% video...

"Mitt is asked by a British man about an Iran-Contra-hostage-like attack and ole Mitty said he would use any kind of conspiracy to his advantage to get elected!"

Listen to the video.

It shows motive.

http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2012/10/18/mitt-romney-is-behind-the-benghazi-libya-attack/

Izzy, a laudable attempt, but you don't have me pegged.

I never hold a grudge or seek revenge. Although, I would respectfully refute your claim of "sticking it to me". You know, it's kinda funny. Normally, I think about what I want to write before I write it, and try to be as succinct and even-tempered as possible. But lately, when reading posts from extreme RWNJ's (I'm not lumping you into that category) I get so fed up with that whole "I've-got-my-blinders-on-so-don't-inconvenience-me-with-facts" attitude that I instantly lose my s h i t.

I owe you an aoplogy.

I'm a center-leaning (moderate) Democrat, not one of the rabid liberals that thinks Obama walks on water. He's made some mistakes. But not for lack of trying. I have voted Republican before. I never blindly vote along party lines or 'straight tickets'. But damn son, Romney is not the one to lead this country. We will be f u c k e d with a capitol F if he slithers his way into office. I got a pretty good chuckle from your "truth, honesty, etc" tagline. Seriously?

Dude, I get it. You're not happy with where we're at as a country, economically and otherwise. Neither am I. However, I don't blame it all on Obama. Man, we could go back and forth all day long, each bombarding the other with cherry-picked "facts", but here's the deal:

Romney will be a puppet for Big Business interests. Surely everyone knows that, even the most staunchly conservative voter. Which means we will be forced to run through another 4-year failure of trickle-down economics. A proven disaster, wouldn't you agree?

So, we have two choices. One candidate will serve the 1% with the assumption that when the wealthy get wealthier, we all do better. The other candidate will serve the other 99% knowing that middle class consumers are the real "job creators" when we spend our hard-earned cash.

I guess it all comes down to not who you believe, but WHAT you believe. I suppose we'll see on the 7th.

Either way, we're all Americans. Peace.

Tellya What

Izzy, a laudable attempt, but you don't have me pegged.

I never hold a grudge or seek revenge. Although, I would respectfully refute your claim of "sticking it to me". You know, it's kinda funny. Normally, I think about what I want to write before I write it, and try to be as succinct and even-tempered as possible. But lately, when reading posts from extreme RWNJ's (I'm not lumping you into that category) I get so fed up with that whole "I've-got-my-blinders-on-so-don't-inconvenience-me-with-facts" attitude that I instantly lose my s h i t.

I owe you an aoplogy.

I don't enter this liberal site that often anymore because of the idiotic blubbering insults that get thrown at you . I am neither Dem (although I was for yrs.) nor republican (although I appreciate many of their platforms) I am an "Unaffiliated" (what my home state calls it), I vote for whom I feel is the most qualified. So when out of the blue, I am attacked, as you did, I react in kind but with more temperate words - I never get angry. I come here to read what thinking people have to say and to challenge those ignorant buffoons that only want to spew their hatred. Intolerance for anothers opinion is rampant here and draws quick actions and reactions. I never attack I expose! What?? I expose what is inaccurate and what is total BS. I want debate, so if the person doesn't like what I say they can debate me....however anger never works on me.

Apology Accepted

It's clear to me we have a difference of opinion. I lean conservative in my beliefs, smaller government, balanced budgets, teaching people how to get off welfare not having generations of welfare in the same families - job training should be a part of the welfare system in order to help people become self sustaining and to achieve a sense of accomplishment for them , to give them a sense of self worth. Creating jobs not buying votes for giving out cell phones or free obama money....we need to get them off welfare and thriving. I see through obama's speeches, I see many inconsistencies and pander - we need an honest prez. one that doesn't use race bating or class warfare to accomplish stuff - I don't see obama as capable to achieving coalitions or across the aisle cooperation...I see him more as a "my way or the highway" kind of guy. I see him floundering in areas of economics and less than visible in areas that affect America. I see him as indecisive and hesitant for political reason and for no other.AND I have no respect for him as a man! But, again, I know we'll disagree on this but - that's ok, I respect you opinions.

Look obama wanted the job, he said he'd do things and work across the asile - he hasn't, he knows the blame game. I'm not stupid enough to deny he stepped into a BIG pile of crap - but put the blame on the system, on the previous 40 years of stupid gov. actions and decisions and yes on Bush too, but to just blame Bush is the height of ignorance.

Romney is a successful business, yes he's rich but he is (no matter how any one spins it) a self made man. He is charitable - long before he ever became political, he uses the same tax shelters as any other person with money does, he has not broken any laws, he is not a tax cheat. His abilities are proven - people do not understand how investment companies work - they want to make businesses they invest in successful, then they make money, too. Some business, like Bain, were far to gone, even though investors bought them to try and save them - they were unsaveable (is that a word?) for many reasons. Driving business overseas has been gong on for years - with and without Romney's participation...why, America's business's tax structures and expensive cost of labor and labor's many demands on businesses. So to just call Romney out on this - like it's all HIS fault - is simply ridiculous and mindless. AND I don't just blame obama either, he tried, failed, why..because he is not up to the job it's way above his pay grade. This is not a fault in the least - it's just a limitation he has.

To believe Romney is only for the 1% er's is also a fallacy - obama has railed against them but he pals with them and he is one and yet he uses them to stick it to Romney Ask obama about his taxes and his money - he's no different then the rest of the rich - he just talks a better soothing lie to the poor and middle class. I would wager that Romney gave more $$ to honest, real charities than obama made last year - how much did obama give - we could ck the net on it but I'll bet you'd be surprised at what you'd find out.

Romney side, of course, on business's, again, why.....that's where the jobs are created - did you EVER get a job from a poor person - to think he'd favor business's big or small I'd say yes - but not for the reasons you would say it. Obama wants to enlarge government and thus create jobs - well who pays for those gov. jobs - we do, the tax payers! So for every new dept. obama creates and then mans with gov. workers - our taxes will go UP to pay for them....simple math will tell you the logic of this. One day we all will be gov. workers pay our own salaries with $$ borrowed from the Chinese! lol

Just like you, I want America to grow, be prosperous and to honor our American heritage and our beliefs. One people............

When Bush 1 left office the national debt was............-$4,000,000,000,000.00

When Clinton left office there was a surplus of..........+$127,000,000,000.00

When Bush 2 left office the national debt was............-$12,000,000,000,000.00

Anti......, nice try, but pure bull $hit. You're trying to tell us the US had a $125 billion surplus when Clinton left? Not so, not even close. At no time in the past 50 years has there been a surplus in the federal coffers.

For all you republicans criticizing the behavior and language of the lefties never hear you criticize the righties for the same.

Antistupidity

Ok lets take a real look at the numbers.

First of all you have to STOP this nonsense about a Clinton “surplus”.

There was no surplus. If there was, one or more of his years Debt figures would have been lower than the preceding year. I challenge you to show me any data that shows that. Don’t waste your time, there isn’t.

What was done was the Clinton administration, as have all administrations to varying degrees since LBJ allowed Social Security to be counted in the General Fund with accounting changes, manipulated the Public Debt and Intragovernmental Holdings to create the appearance of a “surplus”. It was close, but it never was a “true” surplus. Just more typical Beltway smoke and mirrors.

Next, the Democrat Congress never passed Bush's Budget for 2009. It was running the government by a series of continuing resolutions (sound familiar?). You Liberals keep quoting Rex Nuttings phony Marketwatch graph which attributes all spending during Barrack Husseins entire first year, up to Oct. 1, to Bush.

This includes the $863 billion $timulu$, the $410 billion Porkulus bill that Bush refused to sign. Obama signed it on March10, 2009. Bush was chopping brush in Texas for 2 months by then. Obama signed the $40 billion child health care bill. Bush only spent half of the TARP funds. On Jan. 12, 2009, Obama asked Bush to release the remaining funds, by Oct. 1 he spent another $200 billion.

Nuttings “analysis” is so false and convoluted even the New York Times ignored it.

Now, if you want to analyze the “right direction”, how do you support the $863 billion $timulu$ creating 5 million jobs? If you do, then realize each job costs us over $200,000 to create.

If you still think this is somehow a good thing let me explain what type of jobs are being created.

Although six in 10 jobs lost during the Great Recession paid mid-level wages, the majority of new jobs created in the recovery -- positions such as store clerks, laborers and home healthcare aides -- pay much less, according to a new study by the National Employment Law Project.

The study covered jobs created from the first quarter of 2010 through the first quarter of 2012.

Lower-paying jobs, with median hourly wages from $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for just 21% of the job losses during the recession. But they've made up about 58% of the job growth from the end of the recession in late 2009 through early 2012.

Those jobs have been concentrated in three industries: food services, retail and employment services, such as office clerks and customer service representatives, the study found.

In contrast, mid-wage occupations with median hourly wages from $13.84 to $21.13 -- jobs such as construction workers, real estate brokers, and data entry clerks -- have accounted for just 22% of the new jobs in the recovery after making up 60% of the job losses in the recession.

So, we're paying $200,000 to create jobs making $25,000 a year. I'm not an economist but it would seem like our return on investment isn't very good.

You Liberals may see this as a good thing but normal Americans don’t.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

Oh, but there was a budget surplus. No one doubted the numbers at the time as they were based on standard practices. In fact Clinton did not use the Medicare Trust fund like Reagan did.

"Like our Olympic athletes in Sydney, the American people are breaking all kinds of records these days. This is the first year we've balanced the budget without using the Medicare trust fund since Medicare was created in 1965. I think we should follow Al Gore's advice and lock those trust funds away for the future," he said.

And Clinton also paid down on the national debt while doing it! Reagan could not do that.

President Clinton announces another record budget surplus - September 27, 2000

Steve or Anyone who can,

I'm not a big Union supporter. I get that we need the fundamental concept of the union, but I believe, like most anything on Earth, power has corrupted them and they need reform.

That being said... I AM a woman, which I believe is more then you can claim. But hey you never really know. So anyway, make the case. Convince me why I should vote for Romney.

My only requests are that you're intellectually and factually honest and can provide credible sources for any information you present as fact, and that you actually make a case (with specifics and details) and don't just post assertions.

Go ahead, I'm all ears...

He hasn't mentioned "reducing the deficit," only not increasing it. He'll spend it on defense; Obama will spend it on infrastructure. Both plans increase the debt, the question is which will provide the most GDP growth.

Obama's plan has greater stability over the long-term...but takes longer to get there; Romney's plan may show faster, but temporary, results, but has the negative potential to slow global infrastructure growth IF his added defense spending engenders a new arms race among the big three: the U.S., Russia, and China.

Try reading Citi's Global Economic Outlook and Strategy report, which includes projections for the next several years and you may be rethinking the advantages our present course offers.

Right...Citi has done so well.

"Romney will be able to repair the damage caused by the little coward in the white House."

• Romney isn't going to be able to repair the damage caused by George W. Bush because he's not going to win this election.

Even NBC knows Obama has lost, they have even started reducing the level of Democrat over-sampling in their "polls" to reduce their embarrasment when Romney wins in a landslide:

Wisconsin:
Strong Democrat 27
Not strong Democrat 7
Democrat leaning Independent12
Just Independent12
Republican leaning Independent12
Not strong Republican5
Strong Republican23
Other2

New Hampshire:

Strong Democrat 22
Not strong Democrat 4
Democrat leaning Independent 16
Just Independent 16
Republican leaning Independent 16
Not strong Republican 6
Strong Republican 19
Other 1

Iowa:

Strong Democrat 25
Not strong Democrat 8
Democrat leaning Independent 12
Just Independent 15
Republican leaning Independent 10
Not strong Republican 8
Strong Republican 23
Other 0

This is by far the most evenly-split polling NBC has done all year, it is still skewed toward Democrats but not nearly as much as usual.

When the propagandists began dialing back their propaganda you know they have realized that reality has prevailed and thay are only making themselves look foolish.

"lefsux" - your posts are disgusting & hateful, borderline illiterate, & contribute nothing to the conversation . . . if you have something positive to say about your candidate, say it . . . .

meanwhile, looks like "inflammatory" to me!

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Intelligent Voters for O & Joe!

left - Not Nairobi - Kenya.

Yeah get it right it's Kenya. And while you're at it wear the right brand of tinfoil in your hat. Use Reynold's Wrap not that generic crap.

Some of these rwnj loonies are so disconnected from reality it's frightening. We need to ship them to Kenya.

Tell that to Governor Christie ... he might sit on you.

And here is Thumper, an idiot so delusional that he is part of why Congress is broken and will remain broken whilst the Tea Party remains there.

We need more politicians like Christie willing to say "I do not give a damn about my party". Those are the types of politicians that get things done while the ball-less ideology double-downers just sit and spit.

"Exhibition in New Jersey"? That is ALL you took away from the President's visit there today? His PRIMARY reason for going, was to meet with Governor Christie, survey the damage done by Hurricane Sandy, and make SURE that the state of New Jersey had everything they needed, to begin to recover from the devastation of this horrible storm! If all you saw was an "EXHIBITION", then you aren't really paying attention to much of ANYTHING, are you? The only thing that seems to matter to you , is YOUR OWN outlook on the situation, and your POISIONOUS state of mind, do everyone else on the vine a favor, take your B.S. and your BIAS somewhere else!!!

I gained new respect for Christie when he put aside the partisanship and welcomed the help of the President doing the same thing.

When this country works together, we can accomplish anything. Might be nice to toss out those that have refused to do so - like the bagger republicans that are in the middle of a two month vacation right now.

GOV Christie GOT A BIG DOSE OF REALITY WITH THE DEVASTATION....NOW HE TURNS INTO A DEMOCRAT AND THE REPUBS ARE HOWLING LOUDER THAN THE STORM.

Yes Christie is hit hard with the sight of devastation the storm has caused. Compassion for the survivors is now the understanding thought of the day.

Hurricane Sandy is a visual storm that hit America, and this is the same devastation that happened to millions of Americans because of the economy crash caused by the GREEDY RICH.

This is the same effect of devastation caused by those republicans who pledged against America to stop anything good that would make president Obama look good before this 2012 election.

Republicans want to continue this same destruction because the profits of their destruction are so profitable for them.

Romney sends American jobs overseas and republican politicians support him by blocking laws that would keep them here or bring them back.

Republicans vote against jobs bill when soldiers are returning from war and committing suicide at a record pace.

Stop the republican rt wing devastation, help America recover.

VOTE PRESIDENT OBAMA/BIDEN AND TEAM AMERICA 2012

It sure looked to me that Christie is happy for all of the federal help his state is getting.

Compare that to Romney wanting to dismantle FEMA.......................

"lefsux" - are you a paid troll? someone wasted their dime.

your posts are disgusting & hateful . . .

meanwhile, looks like "inflammatory" to me!

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Intelligent Voters for O & Joe!

Are these comments not moderated? The lack of civility here is outstanding.

I have leftsux on Ignore. He's a complete retard.

"Anything24" . . . I think the moderator has gone home for the night!

but we can all be "moderators" by marking posts that are just plain disgusting (eg, "Lefsux") as "inflammatory" and then they will be collapsed.

:-)

What did Clinton mean when he said to Ted Kennedy "A few years ago, he (obama) would have been carrying our bags"??????

Just like how it sounds OBUMMER is a FAILURE, but would of been a good bag handler.

NOBAMA 2012 Get the failure out of Washington DC, time to get this country to work again.

Steve wants to go back to the good old days when black people were only servants to rich old white men.

He cries himself to sleep every night because we have a black president.

He's going to go into a rage smashing beer bottles in his trailer on November 6th when President Obama wins a second term.