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Subscribe to RSSVice President Joe Biden made a reference to possible future political ambitions at a stop Wednesday at a restaurant in Florida.
A short while after an earlier rally -- where the vice president boasted of "being a good Biden" today -- Biden slipped into a characteristic moment, to the delight of DC's chattering class.
NBC's Carrie Dann, who is traveling with the vice president, describes the scene:
At an off-the-record stop at a restaurant called "400 station" in Sarasota, Joe Biden spoke on the phone with the brother of a voter who wanted him to chat with her Republican relative.
After chatting about the health insurance law, he concluded, "Well look, I'm not trying to talk you into voting for me, I just wanted to say hi to you, okay? And after it's all over when your insurance rates go down, then you'll vote for me in 2016. I'll talk to you later."
Biden is among the handful of Democrats included in early speculative lists of possible presidential candidates in 2016, at which point the former Delaware senator would be 73-years-old.
His viability as a candidate, though, might well hinge on the outcome of the 2012 election next Tuesday, when a second term for President Barack Obama is far from certain.
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Biden: 'When your insurance rates go down, then you'll vote for me in 2016'
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
If we don't dump the inept liar in the white house and repeal the insurance farce, the rates will continue to go up, promise the dem leftys one thing we will not allow the government to bail them out.
Umm, no. I'm a huge Obama supporter, but will not be voting for Biden.
The dorkometer just blew up with that comment. I don't believe even Joe would vote for himself!!!
Go away, Joe. You'll be voted out in 2012. No sense trying to become President in 2016. We don't need ya.
I doubt he will be out of prison after Libya
if biden becomes pres, i am going to canada and live with alec balswin and susan sarandon....they moved there when gw was reelected
I don't care to live with Alec. Susan Sarandon on the other hand...
Updated as of 8:30pm EST on Wednesday, October 31 (Happy Halloween!):
With less than 124 hours left in the 2012 presidential campaign, Real Clear Politics has Obama leading in eight of their eleven toss-up states with Romney leading in three.
In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 8:30pm EST together with the most recent FiveThirtyEight election night probabilities of victory for either candidate:
In PENNSYLVANIA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 4.6%, down slightly from yesterday's 4.7%. Nonetheless, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 95.4% chance of winning here, up from yesterday's 94.2%.
In WISCONSIN, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 4.0%, up substantially from yesterday's 2.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 88.1% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 85.7%.
In MICHIGAN, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 3.0%, down from yesterday's 4.0%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 97.9% chance of winning here, down slightly from yesterday's 98.1%.
In NEVADA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.4%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 82.8% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 79.7%.
In OHIO, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 2.3%, up slightly from yesterday's 2.1%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 77.6% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 73.3%.
In IOWA, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 1.3%, down from yesterday's 2.3%. However, FiveThirtyEight gives Obama a 74.4% chance of winning here, up from yesterday's 73.9%.
In NEW HAMPSHIRE, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead has fallen to 1.0%, down from yesterday's 2.0%. However, FiveThirtyEight gives Obama a 75.4% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 70.3%.
In COLORADO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead has risen to 0.5%, up from yesterday's tie. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 60.7% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 5.4%.
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In VIRGINIA, with 13 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 0.5%, up from yesterday's tie. Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 61.8% chance of winning here, up significantly from yesterday's 57.8%.
In FLORIDA, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 1.2%, down from yesterday's 1.3%. FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 59.3% chance of winning here, down significantly from yesterday's 64.7%.
In NORTH CAROLINA, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead has risen to 3.8%, up from yesterday's 3.0%. FiveThirtyEight gives Romney an 82.0% chance of winning here, up from yesterday's 81.4%.
All in all, while Romney's position in six of the eleven toss-ups has improved over the past 48 hours, his chances of winning in four of these six (Pennsylvania, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Virginia) has actually declined. This curious development is a function of Romney losing his race against the clock where his gains are simply not occurring quickly enough to make a difference.
In any case, in order for Obama to win re-election the least complex route appears to be through maintaining his current lead in the five toss-up states where his existing margins are widest (Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Wisconsin at 4.0%, Michigan at 3.0%, Nevada at 2.4%, and Ohio at 2.3%). Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado.
However, should Obama fail to hold Ohio, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently predicting Obama victories:
Path #1: Obama loses Ohio but wins Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #2: Obama loses Ohio but steals Virginia while also taking New Hampshire, Iowa, or Colorado resulting in 270, 272, or 275 electoral votes, respectively.
Interestingly, with Romney's lead having diminished significantly in Florida over the past two weeks and with Hurricane Sandy forcefully highlighting the stark contrast between the candidates regarding the value and necessity if not the mere existence of FEMA in a state which has perhaps the greatest dependence on federal storm relief efforts in the country, a 3rd path has now emerged which could provide for some interesting election night television:
Path #3: Obama comes from behind to win Florida. This scenario would require only that Obama win the three states in which his present leads are widest (Pennsylvania at 4.6%, Wisconsin at 4.0%, and Michigan at 3.0%), resulting in 276 electoral votes.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the three states in which he presently leads, Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia bringing his electoral vote total to 248, but also steal a victory in Colorado where Obama's lead today rose to 0.5% and in Ohio where Obama's lead today settled at 2.3%. By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275.
Should Romney fail to steal Ohio he could overcome this shortfall by capturing the four other states in which Obama's current leads are smallest (Colorado at 0.5%, New Hampshire at 1.0%, Iowa at 1.3%, and Nevada at 2.4%) resulting in an electoral vote total of 273.
In either scenario, however, Romney must hold Florida at all costs.
FiveThirtyEight, at present, estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 77.4% - Romney 22.6%. FiveThirtyEight also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 299 - Romney 239. Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight currently predicts a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.4% - Romney 48.5%.
With less than 124 hours of campaigning left, this one still appears to be going down to the wire.
Did Ryan's campaigning in his home state of Wisconsin give Obama that much of a bump?
John,
Who knows what might account for all of this craziness?
Maybe in the long run Ryan's added value to the Romney ticket has proven inconsequential, even in his home state, while other factors have somehow grown in consequence.
Strange days, these.
With all the Biden gaffes to replay over and over, does anybody think he could get 50% of the vote? All you have to show is the V P Debate!! What a joke!!
Really, come on, Joe. 4 years was enough.
Vote Romney/Ryan and let the smart guys fix your mess. We could blame you guys for the next 4 years, let's see how you like that.
sham,
Your guys put up a good fight, in some ways, but the clock is ticking and there just aren't enough rabbits left to be pulled out of the hat for Romney/Ryan.
See you in 2016.
You might want to look at some of the polling from the most accurate pollster of the last presidential election. You probably won't get much sleep after you do.
Msn, better hope not lefty , 6% to 7% of the business that can travel, have options on sites outside the USA and will be leaving if Obama is reelected.
We'll be sitting watching satellite tv when the handouters are in the streets rioting and burning when Obama can't fund their handouts any longer.
Please. I love Joe Biden, but Hillary Clinton will be the next president (after Obama's second term).
Yeah....cause she did such a great freakin Job with Libya. Do you people even consider your candidates, or just whomever the party you prefer chooses?
Who are "you people"? :)
@ligrl - not a chance in hell for Hillary to be the POTUS after Obama. She is a disgrace to America just like Obama - one word for you - BENGHAZI. End of story........
A Biden/Clinton ticket would be ok too.
I just threw up in my mouth!
Sure, why not handouter, I'm as likely to vote for that ticket, as I am for Obama, when there are icicles in Hades 36 inches long.
to single payer or national healthcare like the disaster Great Britian has...
^ How come the Brits like their health care system if it's such a disaster?
How come they live longer, all have coverage and pay less than we do in America?
They actually paid TRIBUTE to the National Health Service during the Olympics!
Some disaster.
Ever notice their teeth? No thanks...
The reason why is because the Brits are a more respectful country.
America was founded on fighting tooth and nail for everything. That tradition has been handed up to almost every generation since then.
Such tradition often sees Americans fighting each other over pebbles because each American thinks that the other is trying to take their only pebble.
I guess you could say that it is a curse when Indians were tricked into selling Manhatten for a few furs and beads.
Gotta watch that Ingin Magic.
Scomma, you dem lefty handouters will lie and lie and lie, for freebies.
The British pay, 63% in income taxes and Vat .
They also use denial of service and product as an economy measure.
They have run a deficit for the last 6 years and reduced services for the last two years, one of the subjects of the last election was to go back to a partnership with private medicine.
The British have lower survival rates on every major illness than US citizens.
It can take up to 6 weeks to get an appointment with a GP?
Your insurance will go up if we don't dump the inept liar in the white house.
Here is a promise, when it goes up, we will not allow the government to bail you out, you handouters think you will get something free and you are going to pay the price
Just got notified that rates are going up 14% for us. There is no such thing as FREE folks. Some one pays for all that stuff.
So enjoy all your birth control....
Th very idea that we will add an additional 30 millio0n people to the insurance farce and it won't cost any more tells you what the dem leftys are all about, they know it will go up, but, they think some one else is going to pay for it and we are going to make sure that does not happen.
I like Joe. A good, sincere patriotic American! Presidential material... no.
Did anyone see the recent add on the SyFy Channel touting how it was the Republicans who freed the slaves?
During that time the North did not have many people to work in the newlyh factors that the industrial North was building.
So in one aspect the Republicans built a wall around the slaves of saying the war about freeing them to be free....free to work in the factories of the North.
President Lincoln may have had sincere intentions when freeing the slaves....but the real question is would he still have gone through with freeing them thus starting the Civil War if there had not been any factories in the North that needed workers?
I think Biden would be the perfect contender to throw against whatever newbie the GOP decides to put into the ring.
Biden will have been the Vice President for eight years and will have the knowledge and experience critical to keep America safe and jobs from going to China when the Chinese lift the ban of birthing. Once the Chinese begin to have more kids where do you think American jobs will head to?
New Zealand?
Don't think Biden would qualify for Dog catcher in 2016, that would entail a brain and common sense.
to Pat Boston MA.
Joe Biden= an Idiot! never held a job in the 'real' world, doesn't have a clue what a job in the private sector entails. A liar on the Benghazi story. BTW, how come we are not talking about Benghazi every single day until we get the truth what really happened. Watergate pales in comparison, no one got killed in Watergate, Benghazi we lost 4 Americans yet we are talking about a clown in politics.
wow this guy is so out of touch with what working people go through.. if obama gets back in my goal is to make less so i can get government freebies too.. it will be easier in this country to not work .. democrats reward those who do not achieve and work well. i will just work enough to qualify for all of the government goodies.. yayyyy.
NBC is part of the cover up !!!!! NBC is part of the cover up !!!
The U.S. Mission in Benghazi convened an “emergency meeting” less than a month before the assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, because Al Qaeda had training camps in Benghazi and the consulate could not defend against a “coordinated attack,” according to a classified cable reviewed by Fox News.
Summarizing an Aug. 15 emergency meeting convened by the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Aug. 16 cable marked “SECRET” said that the State Department’s senior security officer, also known as the RSO, did not believe the consulate could be protected.
“RSO (Regional Security Officer) expressed concerns with the ability to defend Post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, weapons capabilities, host nation support, and the overall size of the compound,” the cable said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/31/exclusive-us-memo-warned-libya-consulate-couldnt-withstand-coordinated-attack/#ixzz2Aw1xr7Rz
Willie, every one knows by now, we will vote against the inept liar in the white house.
The dem leftys will always vote for the man that promises them the most freebies.
If Obama announced tomorrow,, he is a practicing pedophile, the day after the leftys would be defending pedophiles.
Willie is full of it!! Willie is full of it!! No details necessary.
Far from certain??? Death, tax, ... not too far down... Obama re-election.
Better hope so, handouter, 6% to 7% of the businesses that can travel, have options on sites outside the USA and will be leaving if he is reelected.
That should just about be the straw that broke the camel's back.
I will be producing product in central America before he takes the oath of office.
Happy to report they already have Joe, my sons monthly medications have already been cut in half starting this month. THANK YOU! You and the President have done a wonderful thing for all Americans, when they wake up to the end result everyone will be as pleased as I am. Thanks again!
As for your Presidency, we'll be watching. Make us proud and you'll have our vote for sure, the 50% drop in medication alone is a major relief. Thank you so much!
Uh huh, it will go up, when it does, we will not allow the government to bail the handouters out.
Heavy -
My medications doubled in price this year, and there is less selection. It's getting bad when the physician has to change to a less effective medication for a patient because the insurance won't cover it at all. In fact, as we are required to go through the pharmacy of the company's choice, it means that treatment for even common ailments like high blood pressure and high cholesterol is in actuality dictated by the pharmacy and not the doctor.
My son is in the "Obamacare" program since April this year. It's affordable and well worth it.
I understand the reason people don't like this but please, check it out further, it is dirt cheap healthcare that's better than most policies on the free market. The prescription drug drop in cost just came this month so I know it isn't fully in effect. At this point it will only get better.
Please don't take this away from us! Romney did it for Massachusetts and many say it's the only good thing he did. I don't know about that but I do know about this, and it's great.
I'm glad you are paying 1/2 as much for your son's medications. They must be taking from me to pay for your son's meds because my rates will go up significantly in 2013. What about your 2013 rates? Or do you even pay for your health insurance.
So it's all about you and to hell with everyone else right?
People, people, do you have to swear off having a sense of humor to be a Republican nowadays? Geez.
ROMNEY/RYAN LANDSLIDE.....c'mon now LIB TARDS....you know it...you feel it...HA HA HA.....YEEEHAWWWWW!!!
So, Biden, let's see, health care insurance costs have gone up $2,500.00 per household since Obama care has been implemented and seniors are already starting to get denied treatment as a result of the higher costs of premiums. No, Biden, health insurance won't go down if you're still around. Please run for president in 2016 though, you will be insurance for ongoing conservative leadership in the White House.
I'd vote for Biden over Obama or Romney. Seems smarter then both of them combined. I'm not a big fan of our choices this year...think each candidate has some serious flaws. Taxing the rich won't work without cutting government (probably every area). Romney leaving defense off the list is ridiculous (does he know that drones are cheap and very effective?). Obama's healthcare system (because its Halloween) spooks me a little :) Our current system is horrible and continues to get worse almost daily, but i'm not sure this thing is the answer... All our jobs went to China and neither person plans to do anything since nothing can be done (unless we all work for pennies). Oh well...
Biden comes across as a whack case much like Santorum on the other side... I liked Clinton, disliked Bush and cannot believe how bad Obama turned out to be. Gore seemed OK at first but then went climate change crazy and invested deeply in climate change as if climate change has not happened thousands of times over the eons....
Right now Romney seems to be quite moderate and does not come across as a christain whack case like many in the GOP.
IMO he will make a very good president!
How about that $8.00 a gallon gas and a doubled electric bill in 2016? This is Obama and Biden.
Me thinks Biden has been smoking something seriously good!