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ONTARIO, OH — Arizona Sen. John McCain delivered a stinging rebuke of President Barack Obama's handling of the terrorist attack on an American consulate in Libya, saying the commander in chief is either "engaged in a massive cover-up" or is "grossly incompetent."
The 2008 GOP presidential nominee focused his remarks on the Sept. 11, 2012 attack in Libya rather than Hurricane Sandy at an event in battleground Ohio that had been billed as a "storm relief and volunteer appreciation" event.
"This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It's either one of them," McCain told Romney volunteers gathered here at a Victory Center.
Though the mention of the attacks has faded from Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's stump speech, it remains a hot button for conservatives who feel the death of four Americans was a result of negligence on the part of the White House. Democrats have condemned the accusations as an attempt by the right to politicize the tragedy, a notion McCain dismissed when speaking to reporters.
"I think it's interesting to note that when there was a success, such as when, thank God, we were able to get bin Laden, the administration poured out every single detail, even details that put American lives in danger," McCain said. He later added: "It is my obligation to the men and women who are serving to get the full story out to these four brave Americans have families. They deserve to know why their sons were sacrificed in the needless fashion."
As McCain motivated volunteers at Romney's Ohio headquarters, the GOP nominee held a relief event to collect supplies for those affected by Hurricane Sandy. Obama cancelled campaign events on Tuesday, and Romney scratched an earlier event in this state, a move McCain called "appropriate."
The 2008 presidential candidate said he believes the storm "froze everything in place while this terrible tragedy fixated the attention of the American people. Now i think they're ready to get back into this campaign."
Also joining McCain was Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who encouraged Ohioans to bring supplies to Victory Centers throughout the state. They are two of many surrogates who will be hitting the Buckeye State between now and Election Day. The focus now is turning out the base and getting as many early votes as possible before Nov. 6.
Asked to compare conservative enthusiasm now to at this point four years ago, McCain said, "I hate to admit it but it's much stronger than in 2008. That's just a fact."
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This coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between a Sunni & Shiite!!!
Go YELL at some pigeons on park benches McNasty, no one listens to an angry, senile, chicken-hawk anymore!
We would be in the middle of WWIII right now if this crazy old coot had won in 2008!
Bomb... bomb... bomb... Iran... ring a bell?
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Go YELL at some pigeons McNasty, no one listens to a senile chicken-hawk anymore!
Feisty
McNasty is still bitter from loosing 2008.
McCain said, "I hate to admit it but it's much stronger than in 2008. That's just a fact."
Really?
Democrats Hold Early-Voting Advantage Over Republicans
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-29/democrats-hold-early-voting-advantage-over-republicans
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Wow, what a snidey old fossil, showing his true colors.
This President has done a fantastic jobs on all counts, with ZERO help from GOP. Even McCain knows that.
Did McCain see the article "CONDOLEEZA RICE POURS COLD WATER ON BENGHAZIGATE" ?
Former GWB Sec of State is done with it. It is done.
@Feisty,
The North Vietnamese were unable to brainwash Sen. MCCain, but apparently Karl Rove has succeeded.
Truly sad.
btw He was on a Cleveland radio show yesterday.
When asked about the storm bearing down on the city, he said "I don't know about that" and went straight to the Benghazi talking points.
Unbelievable!
This pathetic man continues to show how bitter he is over losing in 2008! Get over it, McCan't!
I can't believe McCain would do such a thing, especially when Obama did not know what was going on over there, in fact Obama didn't even know that we had an embassy over in Lybia, right Obama? Isn't that what Biden said?
Obama is a straight up guy, he can't help it his party doesn't believe in GOD!
lol, too funny......
obama and his band of lying men are traitors and should be prosecuted for treason..
someone needs to speak out and get this disaster in the forefront..
redhead psaki..
your man is going down..
and romney will bring those guilty up on charges..
Next one up: The delusional rantings from Sarah Palin.
Maybe Feisty has a point about McCain being senile. McCain states Obama is engaged in either a cover-up OR Obama is incompetent ...... ?
How about both.
Obama's campaign theme was bin Laden is dead and GM is alive ....and now dems say the worst terrorist attack since September 11, 2001.... an attack that the administration has lied to the American people ...the UN .... the world about - is being politicized by Romney?
Excuse me wasn't politicking agreed to be cancelled? Oh well; McFosssil does have a dementia problem.
4 more 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Unfortunately John McCain is still pouting about losing to Obama in 2008. Nothing he says is taken seriously any more since he has stepped into the gutter with Karl Rove. It's a shame since he used to be a man of integrity. Once he picked Palin as a running mate he became the joke of his party.
Obama/Biden 2012
Bali Bob,
Notice how Willard and Lyin/Ryan understand this nontroversey has NO teeth!
Only the toothless trolls lap this crap up!
The fallen families plea's to STOP politicizing their tragedy's continues to fall on deaf ears!
Shameless...
The guy who chose Sarah Palin to be his running mate, calling someone else "grossly incompetent?"
as if you did yourself. Care to explain the belief in succession to Mohammed? i didnt think so
McCain said, "I hate to admit it but it's much stronger than in 2008. That's just a fact."
Really?
Columbus has busiest day of early voting
The Franklin County Board of Elections reports that 4,432 people voted Monday on a nasty rainy day at the county’s early voting center in a vacated department store, making it the busiest day yet for early voting.
That exceeded the 4,228 people who voted on Oct. 9, the last day to register in Ohio, when the polling place remained open until 9 p.m., two hours later than Monday.
It’s unclear if voters were getting their civic duty out of the way in anticipation of the weather worsening, and it’s possible early voting will drop off Tuesday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/30/columbus-has-busiest-day-of-early-voting/
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But, McNasty doesn't know that obviously. Besides only the hacks over @ FOX and it ECHO CHAMBER think somehow if they repeat it; it will gather wind. It's the economy ;
McNasty. MYTH has no foreign chomps. Just look at how pitiful he is: I'd say it's well documented and lampooned.
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6UfQbHCcAAxL8y.jpg
4 more 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Sirie ..
I've put up with your boo'd at the DNC crap for WEEKS ... but this ..
I take HUGE offense to! I am a Democrat, I am a Christian, and I think you need to put a sock in it! Ignore for you now, parrot!
Obama/Biden 2012
good job sirie you joined the ranks of the 'on ignore'. youve done something right.
Ah, come on now Layton, it wasn't my party boo'ing GOD, why so mad at me?
CA, I am so hurt, imagine being on "ignore"
The shame, the pure shame...
You know at one time I really like Senator John McCain. And was excited about him running in 2008. Then I listened closely to his campaign speeches and felt that this was not the same person. THEN I looked up his voting record on Veteran affairs. He always voted NO - I still wonder why. Why wouldn't he helped his fellow Vets? Look up his record.
Obama/Biden 2012
McCain rips Obama on Libya at relief event
Translation: OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUDS!
Layton, sirie, was one of the chosen to go onto my ignore list a very long time ago. Nothing useful ever comes out of that mouth. Same thing for CA. I just don't wish to give them a venue (in my little world) with which to spew their sick and twisted hatred. People like sirie will believe what they believe because they were told to by the demagogues over at that entertainment channel.
4 more4 44!
I'd say if the G-d representatives that show their fauxrage about His ommission were half as concerned about the masses,...they might have a leg to hop on. As it is, I reject a religion that puts them forth as the 'standard' bearers.
What a CROCK!
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter into heaven.
hmmmm,....think think think - WHERE EVER have I heard THAT before?
time for some self mutilation?
ouch. well like i have said, here in libtopia, land of fairies and unicorns. Nothing i can say or do would be useful. I've come to expect that from the self serving pompous windbags you lefties are.
LOL, hatred? look to the party of hatred to call someone out for being a hater...
John the Senior Senator walks with a McCane and is still a sore loser 4 years after his loss to our Irish American President O'Bama.
Do Nerds always get it right? … Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Einstein on the Beach, Steve Jobs (boy, with a name like that wouldn`t any politician be a shoe in) did pretty good. Folks, the numbers will change … I report, you decide.
Sam Wang at Princeton hols at
Obama 303
Romney 235
3 new Ohio polls
JZ Analytics /Newsmax Onama +4
Pharos Research Group Obama +4
Mellman (D-Americans United for Change) Obama +5
Hey, Elise, SF @ #1.18
well said. The same can be about Sarah Palin - a breath of fresh air when she was elected Governor at that age by standing up to GOP Establishment in 2006. Everything turned out to be total aberration.
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When Palin promotes oil drilling, she used the slogan 'Drill Baby Drill' which is also not what it appears to be. As it turns out, 'Drill Baby Drill' is just Sarah talking dirty to Todd Akin Palin when consumating their marriage.
sirie - your comment that the DNC booed God is beneath you. The party booed putting God on the platform because they actually believe the part of the constitution about separating church and state. I guarantee there are as many good Christians who are Indpependents and Democrats as there are who are Republicans. Actually there are probably MORE good Christians who are Democrats and Independents. See they actually believe in helping those less fortunate instead of degrading and demeaning them. They actually understand real Christianity.
Obama/Biden 2012
The Etch-A-Sketch Chameleon Mitt strikes again.
Now his base says Roe v, Wade is safe under Romney...
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/norm-coleman-mitt-romney-roe-v-wade.php
McCain has a right to know the truth as to Benghazi. In addition, some families blame the administration and continue to want to know the truth, as do the citizens of the USofA.
Call it politicizing, if you want, it is! Failed leadership, needs to change.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/military-news/2012/oct/29/1/father-wants-answers-about-son-killed-at-libya-con-ar-547282/
Romney/Ryan 2012, for a strong America
Oh where to put God? Platform or pedestal ... can;t we just leave Her where She is not?
Leave it to Leather Face to make an asinine statement.
McCain. You lost the last little bit of respect I have for you PERIOD. You sir and a liar and a POS and I have NO respect for you.
Ann Romney: ‘We need to throw out the public school system"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2012/10/29/ann-romney-we-need-to-throw-out-public-school-system/
But it's okay for Clinton and Biden to go to Minnesota right?
OKAY, DEMS, and those who KNOW President Obama is a good man & a great President, and has told NO LIES. . . .
Let's ALL take a DEEEP BREATH!!
(1) Most of the idiots on here trying-to- make-the-Libya-tragedy-into-a-campaign-issue are PAID TROLLS. There is nothing you can say to change their minds - they are fixated and delusional.
(2) We also know that McCain has become an angry bitter old man - he is a LOSER, who has STILL not recovered from being beaten by Obama in 2008.
(3) He acted like a TOTAL AMERICAN PATRIOT when he told that fanatic, during the 2008 campaign, that "Obama is a Christian. He is not a Muslim. He is a good American. He loves his family and his country. I just happen to have policy differences with him." I RESPECTED THAT McCain. That McCain has left the building.
(4) Old man McCain predicted that the military would collapse is DADT was repealed. He was wrong.
(5) Old man McCain said it as wrong for President Obama to take troops out of Iraq. He was wrong.
(6) He said we should put boots on the ground in Syria. He was wrong.
(7) He said we should "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." He was wrong.
(8) He is wrong now. He is a sad, angry, bitter old man.
Respectfully suggest you INGORE the "Benghazi-gate irrationals.
.
They cannot change OUR minds.
They cannot change our VOTES.
And for sure, they CANNOT CHANGE OUR HEARTS.
.
I am putting my energy & attention on something else. The RWNJ's can sit here in a circle-jerk and yell at one another. No one else - no one RATIONAL - who knows how complex and mess foreign policy is - believes that the Benghazi situation is anything more than a tragedy, where we STILL don't have all the intell.
Therefore, Obama DID. NOT. LIE.
.
It is a proven-beyond-a-shaddow-of-a-doubt FACT that Robme has lied over & over & over.
If they want to waste their votes on another Lying Looser, I say, let them.
O & Joe, 2012 - ObamaCare(s)!
Of course we all knew that it wasn't a "Relief Event" after all. Sorry Mitt but you sir are a liar too.
McCain is angry at pretty much everything, so him being outraged or angry or miffed isn't news. But really, was there a need to say all that at a relief volunteer appreciation event? Go campaign if you must, but why do that? People in dire or awful situations don't want to hear about politics. That is bad taste.
Logic went out the window years ago. You have to use key words when talking to libbies. Use words like incentive, checks, and free if you want to explain why a Presidential administration is directly responsible for the deaths of four Americans on a foreign soiled U.S. Consulate.
Otherwise, good luck with getting anything through.
KJNC - very well put.
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney fundraiser in OH had about 200 people
His voice was echoing off empty seats his speech had a pathetic desperate sound
So this is what the Republicans call not campaigning during the crisis.
McPain, is a loser and once a loser always a loser. Beating a dead horse on Libya is just another one of John's big mistakes. His first and worst was Palin! Like I said, "Once a loser, always a loser!
The President said that he would pass on any information about the action in Libya as soon as he got it. We have heard quite a bit about the action but not from the President. The UN Ambassador came our and made formal announcements about the action to the American people on TV even though it is not her responsibility to do so. She was talking as the administration's spokesperson. Most of what she told us has turned out to be false. We, the American people want to know who gave her the orders and who told here to say what she said. Either the President knows and will not tell us contrary to what the said that he would, or he is completely incompetent, or both. We would like the truth.
hungrymongoose - you're continued stupidity about "free" and "incentives" show you're not mature enough to be on this post. Go back to your kindergarten when I'm sure you adolescent comments will be appreciated - oh wait - you could just go to a rightwing website because that's just about their intelligence level. But, you're clearly out of your league here. Just go away!
Obama/Biden 2012
(delusional) Bob,
Benghazi doesn't even crack the top 100 worst terror attacks since 9/11. There was one in Iraq with 10 times the deaths last week.
Perhaps you believe that only deaths of Americans are worth considering. No that would be racist.
So tell me ED,how many AMBASSADORS died in that Iraq terrorist attack that had 10 times the deaths??
McCain only proves the suspicions about the real purpose of Romney's "relief" event were correct: It's just more of the cynical cheap political manipulation we've come to expect from Romney.
Caesar, 1.13
If you want to take a course from me, you better have some impressive SATs and a very large cheque, certified if you don't mind.
Slodon,
You proved my point about racists.
Seeking,
I read your post all of the time with you trying to get Fiesty's attention and then calling someone stupid!
Read your post and how they sound. You really shouldn't be acting if anyone else is stupid! Juvenile at best!
Never liked McCain, but what if he's right and President Obama is guilty of not doing what he could of or his administration is guilty of doing what it culd of to have saved 4 American lives and now he is lying about just so you will elect him? Like he's not above that, he's not god he's a Chicago politician. Now he wants to hold on to the most powerful job in the world. You going to embarass the Country and impeach a sitting President, I didn't think so, all's forgiven.
KJNC, very well said. I predict that when the truth comes out about Benghazi there are going to be some very sad republicans. The truth will come out.
God Bless America...just vote !!
nice but perhaps you should try to edumacate your Redwigged Friend first. she's in the need of some serious remedial edumacation. besides in America we call it a check not cheque. Unless you were attempting to pass off being more sophistcated then you really are
Florida never gets its act together
articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-10-27/news/fl-palm-elections-supervisor-problems-20121024_1_absentee-ballots-elections-susan-bucher-election-day
NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections
http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html
Sierie - Is good to be ignore by the useful idiots the likes of layton, SS, BCWC, the ever evolving Feisty, ReddevPs. If I have forgotten someone please add yourself to the list
It is about time that McCain rips into Obama. I say fight fire with fire but please be nice about it. lol
It's just plays to the dumbfauxnews bunch so meh. Screw Mitt and McCain alike. They'll lie no matter what. We know that now.
Front Page:
Romney refuses to answer about FEMA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/mitt-romney-fema_n_2044213.html
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Video of Romney asking to kill FEMA...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqXk5XxHKx8
dogs80 - Wow! Such a profound post! Silly child - Feisty and I are friends so, sorry, not trying to get her attention. But it clearly got yours and you don't understand anything you read. Try again - you just look very juvenile and foolish!
Obama/Biden 2012
How funny is that... NBC News will cover a story about McCain criticising Obama about Libya, but wont cover the story that McCain is criticising him for... how whipped are you MSDNC???
If Obama had half a brain (well at least the half that McCain has) he'd send in Predator Palin to deal with the Syria problem. Now that would scare any 3rd world government!
McCain, because of your incompetence, you gave us Iraq.
President Obama was correct. You, as usual, were wrong.
Tell us SENATOR, how many deaths in Iraq because of your lies? How many innocent Iraqi civilians killed because of your lies?
Why do you feel it necessary to vote against our veterans?
And it wasn't "the Mexicans" who caused fires in your state, even though you blamed them, for no good reason other than racism.
We've seen incompetent politicians aplenty, but you McCain take the cake.
Concern Citizen-856329
My ignore list is currently empty, and you don't qualify for that hallowed hall.
SeekingSanity,
I understand that it is difficult for you to continue to support keynesian economics with your brother Obama, but just as everyone else in the world knows, keynesian economics has always failed every economy in the history of the world. Reaganomics is the only answer to get us out of this mess. Yes Reaganomics, old faithful, a system that has worked in the past, and is going to work right now to get us out of this mess.
Obama has failed leading our nation, and it is time he is voted out of office.
Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's a solution to electronic voting machine fraud.
Print a blue ticket for Obama and a Red ticket for Romney when done.
Have voter insert ticket with # and signature in blue or red box.
At 1 gram per ticket, put them in a scale and weigh them.
1000 grams = 1000 tickets.
Biggest pile wins!
ZERO counting.
Compare against machine total.
hungrymongoose - you clearly understand nothing if you believe Reganomics - the economic system that got us into this mess - will get us out! You need to go back to school - or go for the first time - and try to understand what is taught. You don't have a clue but would continue to destroy this great country with your profound ignorance.
Oh, and as white woman President Obama is my President - not my brother. Of course Romney isn't my brother either. I have one brother and he is neither of these! You truly ARE an idiot! But, you prove my point - no matter how much I seek, there is no sanity to be found in the Republican party!
Obama/Biden 2012
Instructions to all Liberal Posters (follow carefully):
Let desperation ring. Liberal spammers full throttle ahead. If your original post is ignored, post a reply to your own comment and perhaps that will get someone's attention.
Make sure you fill your post with BOLD letters and lots of exclamation marks, and links to useless liberal websites. This shows how legitimate you are.
If any conservatives say anything, bring up catch phrases like "FAUX NEWS" or "Romneisia", then laugh at them and yourself (hahahaha). Soon your buddies will jump in "Wow, great comeback, that sure put him in his place for sure."
If you see one of your liberal buddies post something retarded back them up regardless "Wow, great post fiesty, I was thinking that exact same thing myself". This gives a greater sense of legitimacy to worthless spam and garbage.
Make sure you post at least 100 posts a day. If there are a overwhelming number of posts that slam Romney, then surely people will change their vote. Even if these posts are all coming from the same 5 or 6 windbags. And if all else fails, spam, spam, spam as if your life depends on it. Because, well, your welfare check does.
IT-McCain has a right to know the truth as to Benghazi.
And your right,he and we have a right to know,ONCE the full investigation is COMPLETE. But until that,neither he nor we have a right to speculate and play partisan politics over the deaths of Americans. The Republican Jihad against our President is reaching the stages of Treason against our country.And they should stop their actions betraying America.
Like Joe said "why are you guys always betting AGAINST AMERICA.
Obama/Biden for REAL AMERICANS.
Layton-3733410 said:
Sirie ..
I've put up with your boo'd at the DNC crap for WEEKS ... but this ..
I take HUGE offense to! I am a Democrat, I am a Christian, and I think you need to put a sock in it! Ignore for you now, parrot!
Obama/Biden 2012Layton, you may claim to be a Christian... but you aren't a very smart Christian if you support Obama.
Jonh Doe - Instructions to all Conservative Posters (follow carefully) Just read John Doe's post and try to post the same material so you look more asinine than you usually do!
Oh and make sure you post the welfare stupidity since most of us make more than you ever will!
Brianb - your comments on Christianity are just what I'd expect from someone as hate-filled as you. I'm sure you tell everyone what a good Christian you are. You epitomize Ghandi's comment "I love your Christ, it's your Christians I don't care for." And you are the perfect example of why!
President Obama is a better man and a better Christian than you will EVER hope to be!
Obama/Biden 2012
Uncle Bob 512 said:
IT-McCain has a right to know the truth as to Benghazi.
And your right,he and we have a right to know,ONCE the full investigation is COMPLETE. But until that,neither he nor we have a right to speculate and play partisan politics over the deaths of Americans. The Republican Jihad against our President is reaching the stages of Treason against our country.And they should stop their actions betraying America.
Like Joe said "why are you guys always betting AGAINST AMERICA.
Obama/Biden for REAL AMERICANS.How quickly liberals forget... you were ready to hang Bush and Cheney from the closest oak tree because of Iraq. The evidence is coming in every day... The drone... who ordered the drone.. the one that provided the video link in real time? Who ordered the stand down of American forces to protect our sovereign embassy? Someone had to... I guess liberals only think the buck stops at the president's office when a republican is in office.
SeekingSanity said:
Jonh Doe - Instructions to all Conservative Posters (follow carefully) Just read John Doe's post and try to post the same material so you look more asinine than you usually do!
Obama/Biden 2012Another example of SS attacking a poster and not the ideas.
Brian,
Like this Christian would EVER support a MORMON for anything? Sorry little one and you can go all racist on me but you don't know them personally, you haven't lived amongst their cult all of your life, and last but not least .. pretty sure Jesus was a liberal. But I'm sure you haven't read his book.
I stand up for everything I believe in Brian. Seriously doubt you'd stand up to a fly.
Obama/Biden 2012
(Sirie, I've rethought the ignore thing and in fact took little Concerned off as well. Reading your blather on a daily basis is actually quite entertaining.)
Squirrel!
I find it interesting that McCain chooses to make his incompetence remarks about Obama at this time, with the terrible hurricane situation in the east. Obama had met and planned with those needed to be prepared to deal with Sandy when she hit and is being kept updated. The mayors and governors can contact him directly without having to go through others, he's accessible to them.
That surely doesn't sound incompetent.
Christie, a republican, has praised Obama highly today, multiple times, for all Obama has done in this situation, that in itself is quite impressive, crossing party lines.
McCain today just showed what an A$$ he is to go off like that with Obama demonstrating how competent and prepared he is dealing with Sandy.
Romney previously stated he wants FEMA to go to the states, how stupid. But, considering the source is a stupid and arrogant person who feels he's entitled to be president, not surprising.
Can you imagine what a fumbling idiot Romney would have proved to be if he had been the one who would have been dealing with Sandy.
That is one very scary scenario.
Obama/Biden 2012 - DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!
Brianb- another example of a totally ridiculous and nothing post or actually two posts from you!
Obama/Biden 2012 for Americans who want the best for our Country
This coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between a Sunni & Shiite!!!
This coming from a broad who doesn't know the difference between Marshall Law and Martial Law!!!
Layton-3733410 said:
Brian,
Like this Christian would EVER support a MORMON for anything? Sorry little one and you can go all racist on me but you don't know them personally, you haven't lived amongst their cult all of your life, and last but not least .. pretty sure Jesus was a liberal. But I'm sure you haven't read his book.
I stand up for everything I believe in Brian. Seriously doubt you'd stand up to a fly.
Obama/Biden 2012Layton, you have zero understanding of Christianity. Christians are generous, courteous and are instructed to respect their fellow man. Ever read the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Speed reading doesn't count. Considering your nasty, vile responses to those who believe in conservatism on this board, you haven't displayed your understanding of anything Christian.
Listen my friends
And you will see,
What King Obama
Has done to you and me.
On January twentieth
Two thousand and nine,
He took control
We started our decline
.
With record unemployment
And people forlorn,
Our tax money spent
Poverty the Norm.
With free phones for some
And EBT cards too,
The lazy ones come
Freebies from me and you.
On November the sixth
Two thousand and twelve,
You must go vote
Or were going to hell.
The country deserves better
Than the King and Moochele
,America must survive
And ring the liberty bell.
John D. USN 71-77
WCA
LOL. I bet Feisty thinks one is Wyatt Earp and the other Bruce Lee
SeekingSanity said:
Brianb- another example of a totally ridiculous and nothing post or actually two posts from you!
Obama/Biden 2012 for Americans who want the best for our CountryYou can deny it all you like... your words wrap themselves around your neck like a dog's choker.
Bombed already... eh?
Did you even make it through dinner?
I see my WCA whistle still works! lol
Must remind myself to polish it daily! You come running like a chihuahua in heat!
I have to warn you little man, keep humping my ankle and in the not to distant future, I am going to drop kick your sorry butt 50 yards...
Now run along and drag your ass across someone elses carpet - I'm tired of cleaning up your skid marks!
mike - perhaps you should go back a few years so you can actually understand what has happened. Our country was bleeding jobs and the stock market was down when President Obama took office - thank you George.
He stopped the free-fall and kept us from a depression. He would have done even better had the Republicans worked with him instead of against him. But, we're fixing that this time. We're voting as many Republicans out of Congress as possible.
Brainb- again you post absolutely nothing. You show daily that you truly are one of the low information voters - with nothing of value to say!
Obama/Biden 2012
It's a consulate and as such falls under the State Department, not the military, so it has nothing to do with the Commander and Chief of the military. It does have everything to do with Hillary Clinton who came out and publicly said that she took fulll responsibility. Did everybody miss these points? John McCain certainly did.
Open mouth insert foot McCain. Political point scoring can actually backfire. Just ask Romney with his "47%" comment.
HAHAHAHAHA!
No where to run to Willard... no where to HIDE;
Ummm... I'm not sure other than Willard has a yellow streak running down his back a mile wide!
Ed,
Caesar can't take a course from you! He's already a legend in his own mind and comes up with more crap than facts. Just read some of his posts and the sources he finds? Some he just makes up and uses "color words!" You'd flunk him on his first quiz!
Seeking Sanity said:
But, we're fixing that this time. We're voting as many Republicans out of Congress as possible.
Brainb- again you post absolutely nothing. You show daily that you truly are one of the low information voters - with nothing of value to say!
Obama/Biden 2012There's one problem with your theory SS. You can only vote once... try as you might... you will not succeed. The numbers are against you. Democrats are lackadaisical this election. You can thank your worshipful master for that. I don't think all democrats are dumb... just a select few. Most of them appear on this board, especially one I'm messaging right now.
So, "slow-down," all our military personnel, all our brave soldiers who have died in Iraq are worthless because none was an ambassador? Chris Stevens would say that was despicable.
ALL lives are equally valuable.
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O & JOE!
He should. I applaud John for doing so. What Obama did was wrong, what Obama didn't do was wrong, and his attempt to cover it up was caught.
clwyd
a legend in my own mind? why now that aint true. youre the same d-bag that said i should be stabbed and killed. What a class act. so my sources suck, which would you prefer? Media matters, think progress? Those are credible. thats ok Clwyd, you also think anyone left of Che is a Nazi. so now be a good mammal and run along.
I guess the mentality unstable McCain says, forget those destitute people suffering on the East Coast, it's not affecting his state of Arizona, so he'll go on the attack like some vicious, mangy dog!!
These dogs, McCain/Romney, can't even take a break from their nasty attacks even when AMERICA and AMERICANS are in a deep weather related crisis and suffering!
OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!
No matter what's happening, no matter the devastation, the country can always count on the pure, rank, stupidity of some republican comment. John McCain is a dangerous old fool.
How the hell is his being more concerned about our own Marines and ambassador racist ?
Brianb - you of all people should call no one dumb. Not after the drivel you post. First I'm an Independent and sadly have voted Republican a few times in the past. But I've gotten smarter - too bad you are stuck in the dumb rut.
I have no master - another idiotic Republican rant. Do you know how totally insignificant that makes you seem when you post that nonsense? It shows you lack the ability to reason and post anything of value. But keep it up - you and the other low information voters like you are the people Romney is counting on. They know people with intelligence will not be voting for them.
Oh and Democrats and Independents are not lackadaisical - we'll be out in force - already are in fact.
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Fesity said:
Yeah, sounds like our current VP who was thanking veterans last week who have served in "Iran".
No, No, No! This coming from a presidential candidate who picked Sarah Palin over Mitt Romney!!!
Hahahahahaha! The biggest reason he lost the election! Why?
Because Romney is a lyin' SOS! Let's face it. There was a reason he didn't pick Romney. And only to pick Sarah Palin? Ya gotta wonder why?!?
Barrack Hussein is an embarrassment to all Americans especially our military as he ignored requests for help in Benghazi.
Al Qaeda is alive and well and Ambassador Stevens is dead.
Of course the raving bobblehead Liberal media is complicit in their cover-up for Barrack Hussein. This should be all over the front pages of the New York Slimes and the Washington Post. Of course the Post can't be bothered with senseless slaughters of Americans when they have such Pulitzer material as a 5,000 word expose on Mitt Romneys brutal attack on a school mates hair in high school.
Riveting!
Of course as soon as this gets too close to Barrack Hussein he will just accept it like the coward he is, as he did with Fast and Furious, and exert Executive Privelege for any further investigation.
And you limp-wristed Liberals continue to protect this fiction of a man.
Fortunately next Tuesday he'll be removed from office once and for all and be sent back to arranging picnics in Chicago.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©
NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.
Yep, when Obama is sitting around with nothing to do, he then focuses 100% on Libya for that day.
Get real. Every modern president has had 100's to 1000's of things going on every single day. They have staff for their staff. It's a brutal job.
Obama wasn't sitting around waiting for someone to call his cell phone from Libya. The Government did its job about as well as can be expected.
Now, how the results of the investigation get released to the press, that's on Obama.
SeekingSanity said:
Brianb - you of all people should call no one dumb. Not after the drivel you post. First I'm an Independent and sadly have voted Republican a few times in the past. But I've gotten smarter - too bad you are stuck in the dumb rut.
I have no master - another idiotic Republican rant. Do you know how totally insignificant that makes you seem when you post that nonsense? It shows you lack the ability to reason and post anything of value. But keep it up - you and the other low information voters like you are the people Romney is counting on. They know people with intelligence will not be voting for them.
Oh and Democrats and Independents are not lackadaisical - we'll be out in force - already are in fact.
Obama/Biden 2012SS do you know the greatest aspect of an opinion board? You can say all the crap you like to cover up your actions.. you are the only one that believes it... I couldn't care less what you think, do or believe. Your reality exists only in your own mind...
I'm looking forward to this great force you describe. Compared to 08, your ideology might explode a thimble. I guess some people have lasting effects from all those gallons of kool aide...
You will be out in force? Maybe you'd better tell that to Gallop. Early voting has produced 52% Romney and 45% Obama... but who's counting, eh?
WOW feisty, quite the warrior you are.. But the fact of the matter is, you said Marshall Law. See to make a typo is one thing, to completely mispell a word while attempting to look intelligent like you did this morning is another. So is it Bruce Lee or Virgil Earp? what a screwhead you are
Obviously NOT a student of history...
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Oct 29, 2012 13107
Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
Are we better off than we were 4 years ago? Hell, yes!!
Lets have hearings on why Teapublicans cut funding for security from the State Dept.
Just gotta love all these Romney surrogates who go off-script at these events. So much for the concentration on the "relief aid" aspect that Mitt was trying to bill this little gathering as. Why was John-boy there at all, if not to make it political?
McCain, all by himself it seems anymore, forms his own complete circular firing squad.
Yeah, sounds like the current GOP POTUS candidate introducing Ryan as "the next President of the United States" the day he trotted him out from the USS WISCONSIN.
You got it slightly wrong, JimSpence...your group told Hispanic voters in AZ to vote on 11/8. Don't you boys ever work from the same script?
McCain is a senile old fool who's only claim to fame is that he was shot down
Hey old man it's time for you to go to bed
Romney is making Hurricane relief donations... "BUT"... only to swing States, NOT to NY nor NJ.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/romney-donating-sandy-supplies-only-to-gop-swing-states-not-nj-or-ny/politics/2012/10/30/52648
Hey pile of refuse, perhaps you need to take a nap. you dont like mccain fine but being shot down and beaten as a POW is hardly a trivial event.
BTW Sauron wants his Nazgul back
Mitt Romney is ahead by one point nationally, but President Obama leads 50% to 46%, in 12 battleground states: Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida.
Brianb1956 ....
Wow, when you have NOTHING you sure like to go after a poster!
You don't know me and if you did, you sure as crap wouldn't have posted that. I have read the entire Bible and have it in 4 different versions. I do NOT believe in a religion! (woops you must hence the name calling!) I have a firm belief in God and proudly state so. Be so very careful, little one ... judge not lest ye be judged. Ever read and UNDERSTOOD any of them? I'd steer you to Colossians and my personal favorite Philippians ... now there is a book about Christian service! Of course you being a know-it-all Republican, you're probably stuck in Leviticus and wondering if the Law there should pertain to you.
I'd firmly entertain a Bible bashing session with you but this post and thread is not about that. You're welcome to go the rounds with me if you'd like to message me. That being said ....
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Where OH where did little WCA go?
Will someone kick him out of his drunken stupor?
Be a MAN for once in your miserable existence, pal...
Caesar Augustus-: your response to "If you want to take a course from me, you better have some impressive SATs and a very large cheque, certified if you don't mind."
Your ignorance is showing, CA. No capitalization, no commas, poor spelling [sophistcated], misuse of "then" -- it should be "than". But the real kicker is, "besides in America we call it a check not cheque."
In the UNITED STATES we call it a check; but in Canada [which is also part of AMERICA], it is a cheque.
BO 2012
NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections
http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html
BO 2012,
Thanks for the fabulous link .
I agree with the UPDATED section: Why is Mitt Romney so confident?
I have no doubt that "MYTH" will try to execute what is stated under the "Stealing Votes and spreadsheet" used. This proves that this is what "MYTH" intends to do in the upcoming election.
Stealing Votes
But as the spreadsheet shows, the larger the precinct, the numbers start to change dramatically.
“If percentages did not change from one precinct to the next, we would see a flat line, but what we are seeing is sloped lines downward for Democrats and upward for Republicans (or, in the case of the Presidential primary, upward for Romney and downward for his opponents), said Duniho.”
In every election contest, the trend lines dramatically crossed for no apparent reason. It was revealed that votes were being systemically bled off for Rick Santorum and Ron Paul and then being credited to Mitt Romney.
Once Duniho completed the spreadsheet, he pumped in actual vote totals from other Arizona election contests.
He looked at every 2010 race in Arizona from Governor Brewer to Senator McCain and Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. The trends lines all did the exact same thing. Someone had manipulated the election outcome, most likely one person inserting a programme inside the system’s central computer… that flipped votes.
The results were astounding.
They showed that Governor Brewer actually lost her election and Gabby Gifford’s razor thin less than 1% point re-election victory over Tea Party Conservative Jesse Kelly was closer to a 20 point victory for her.
Duniho added, “We need to have strong hand count audits to confirm the integrity of these elections. This means comparing hand counts with official reports of the election.”
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Since the most vote tallies will be in the heavily large democratic precincts and MYTH's son Tagg Romney owing voting machine and companies linked to Romney’s investment control in voting machine maker Hart Intercivic and Diebold’s with close ties to George W. Bush; MYTH could easily FLIP at least 10% of votes from those precints.
I just hope MYTH's plan is not executable. Yes, we should have hand ballots like in the UK.
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Brianb1956 ....
SeekingSanity said:
Brianb - you of all people should call no one dumb. Not after the drivel you post. First I'm an Independent and sadly have voted Republican a few times in the past. But I've gotten smarter - too bad you are stuck in the dumb rut.
You will be out in force? Maybe you'd better tell that to Gallop. Early voting has produced 52% Romney and 45% Obama... but who's counting, eh?
Ah yes, Gallup the right wing's favorite poll next to Rasmussen; Brianb. Literally every interpretation of your post have been incoherence language.
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AP: Obama close to 271 electoral votes
As it stands now, the AP says that Republican challenger Mitt Romney "continues to have fewer state-by-state paths than Obama" to reach the 270 electoral votes needed to win, because he is seen as trailing the president in the key state of Ohio.
"Without Ohio's 18 electoral votes, Romney would need last-minute victories in nearly all the remaining up-for-grabs states and manage to pick off key states now leaning Obama's way, such as Iowa or Wisconsin," says the AP.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/29/obama-romney-271-electoral-votes-ap-analysis/1664503/
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They are already putting the victory centers ahead of the red cross. What if people don't want to donate to the mormon church.? They are a cultist orginization and alot of people won't support that. Freedom of religion is a great concept but it becomes wrong when religion is forced upon the public. The Romney campaign was asked to not give donated goods. That would hinder red crosses relief efforts because it takes extra time to process those goods before they can be sent out.
http://americablog.com/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-romney-relief-red-cross.html
A paper published by Francois Choquette (Aerospace Engineer, Statistics, California) and James Johnson (Senior Quantitative Financial Analyst, California) outlined anomalies found throughout the United States in the Republican Presidential Primary that always favored Mitt Romney. The favoritism correlated strongly with precinct size, and did not correlate with any other logical choices (such as population density, income levels, race, etc). The paper asked readers to confirm their analysis and report on findings.
I analyzed the 2012 Presidential Preference Primary in Pima County and confirmed their analysis. I also analyzed two 2012 Board of Supervisors Republican primaries and found no apparent anomalies.
I analyzed many 2010 races and found anomalies in all statewide races, always apparently favoring Republicans (except for propositions). I found no anomalies in the LD28 State Senate race.
The correlation of Republican (or in the case of the Republican Presidential Primary, with Mitt Romney) strongly suggests vote count fraud, which would occur in larger precincts because it is easier to hide it there.
Pima County has persistently refused my requests to sort early ballots before doing the state-required hand-count audit because they say it is too much trouble. These statistics suggest another reason: they may be hiding vote-counting fraud.
If the contention of vote-counting fraud is correct, we could be victimized by vote-continuing fraud in the November election, affecting not just the Presidential race but also state-wide races and possibly county-wide races.
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2012/10/mickey-duniho-evidence-of-vote-counting.html
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So let the Red Cross be ungrateful. They have no monopoly on relief efforts.
You are fixing to have eight years to kick Romney around.
OK I worked out a more detailed solution to beat electronic voting machine fraud.
Print a blue ticket for Obama and a Red ticket for Romney when done.
Have the Voter insert the numbered ticket with thumbprint and signature in a blue or red box.
At 1 gram per ticket, put them in a scale and weigh them.
1000 grams = 1000 tickets.
Biggest pile wins!
ZERO counting.
Compare against voting machine total.
With this system programmers cannot change the outcome.
All we need is a scale and compare numbers in a flash.
The problem with today's manual recounts is the actual work related with counting.
Too much room for human error and takes too long.
A scale can count 100,000 votes in a flash.
This can be done RIGHT NOW.
Just go get those tickets.
Or even a marked penny or token can be used.
Weigh them if needed.
SeekingSanity
sirie - your comment that the DNC booed God is beneath you. The party booed putting God on the platform because they actually believe the part of the constitution about separating church and state. I guarantee there are as many good Christians who are Independents and Democrats as there are who are Republicans. Actually there are probably MORE good Christians who are Democrats and Independents. See they actually believe in helping those less fortunate instead of degrading and demeaning them. They actually understand real Christianity.
SeekingSanity
hungrymongoose - you're continued stupidity about "free" and "incentives" show you're not mature enough to be on this post. Go back to your kindergarten when I'm sure you adolescent comments will be appreciated - oh wait - you could just go to a rightwing website because that's just about their intelligence level. But, you're clearly out of your league here. Just go away!
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I'm sure there are many good Christians who are Independents and Democrats, by your own definition you are not one.
It is politicizing an event when the presidentlies to the world about terrorists taking the lives of Americans but it is not politicizing an event when the president brags to the world about how he took out a terrorist?
Next we'll be hearing about how this is just a racial attack on the president.
I said many times that the only reason of how Romney would win this election is if he LIES and CHEATS.
We already know he's a pathological liar.
McCain goes after President Obama. That's the headline.
Yet no headline on Gov. Christie praising the leadership the president has shown to Hurricane Sandy victims in New Jersey.
Just one more week of this nonsense.
Memos are leaking out of the GOP and they ain't pretty.
This coming from the guy that brought us Sara Palin, Who said he knew how to get OBL. Who got his ass handed to him in 08. I don't know just what happened and how it happened. But given what I do know, witch isn't much, But I will bet my last buck that if we had more people there, We would have more dead. We were hit with overwhelming force. They knew that was a weak structure that they could take down. I guess some times you have to take chances. This time it didn't work out. But the Reps don't need to get all Getty just yet. They are the one that has cut back funding for protection.
What 'massive coverup'?
Oh yeah, Fox News commentators that don't abide by any journalist code of ethics say its a "secretive Obama coverup," and their echo chambers in the right-wing blogosphere repeatedly call it that ...so it must be true, right?
Fact-checking be damned!
Can't wait till tomorrow's headlines say there is a new Romney Ad saying that Obama was a failure at dealing with Hurricane Sandy's aftermath.
Then they will show Romney handing aid to NY and NJ and then taking photo shoots with Chris Christie, embrace FEMA, look like a hero and blame Obama for trying to dismantle Federal Aid programs.
Romney will be in NJ and Ryan in NY bashing Obama for not acting fast enough.
So according to Howard Fineman the other nite, the Des Moines R's endorsement of Romney was supposed to somehow be President Obama's waterloo? He basically said the president's re-election chances were zero now that this newspaper had endorsed Romney.
We were all like - what the?
How does ANYONE write such garbage?
I hope you all got to see some real reporting this evening as Lawrence O'Donnell - step by step - tore apart the newspaper's endorsement of Nixon and how it compares to their endorsement of Mitt.
Someone in our media actually took the time to do some research with respect to this endorsement.
It must be so hard being a liberal these days in the media. People just can't seem to handle the truth.
BO, this is what happened today.
Romney campaign waited, then saw the cameras coming and told everybody - start packing. It was a photo op from the get go.
Ann Romney doesn't think President Obama is a grown up.
Did she see her husband's behavior when he went overseas?
Did she see her husband's behavior during the debates?
Did she see her husband refuse to answer FEMA questions today?
Dis she listen to her husband the other day LYING to the people in Ohio?
Does she see how her husband is afraid to do any interviews?
What the hell does she know about grown up leadership?
Johnn McCain criticized President Obama on his handling of Libya. Oh, okay, well, in that case, MCCAIN STILL LOST!!!!! Why does anyone care what this LOSER thinks? I used to respect John McCain, even though I disagreed with him. Now I just see him as some washed up old "has been" who needs to retire and stop embarrassing himself by speaking in public.
Damn, first 28 comments pro Obama. Wonder how many were collapsed unknowingly to others. It IS getting down to the nitty-gritty and Obama is behind BIG TIME. His latest campaign video is a decision maker for a lot of folks which is really an embarrassment to the people he represents. The filthy, disgusting and vulgar language in the video is a reflection on the character of this failed president.
He will go to extremes in getting reelected....His efforts are in vain.
Still amazing the endless politicizing of the embassy attack in Libya. The 4 Americans who were serving there after the summer of extreme violence and the government being overthrown and with the death of Kadafi knew only too well how extremely dangerous their job was. Eventually all the facts will be known, but it certainly was not Obama's fault. Eleven years after 911 and after the start of the Afghanistan war and nearly 10 years after the Iraq war started, the situation in the region is as volatile as ever. The republican-initiated Iraq war only made things much worse in Iraq and in the region for terrorism. But as for the sick politicizing of the Libya attack--it just is one of many endless examples of the extremes the Republicans/Romney/Ryan will go to in their quest of absolute and total power.
All this from the man responsible for the fire on the USS Forestall. When then Naval Pilot Mcain did a "WET START" in his A-4 Skyhawk he cooked off a Zunie Rocket on jet behind him. That fire took the lives of 134 US Sailors and injured 161 others. The complete file on this has been kept Classified ever since. First by his father now by John himself. If you think he didn't do it then why was he the FIRST to be transferred off the Forestall. John suffered NO wounds and was transferred before the wounded and NO other NON-Wounded were transferred that day of the fire.
You mean like telling people JEEP is moving everything to China, Or standing in front of a company that received $700,000.00 + in stimulus to stay alive and say the stimulus didn't work. How about I'm for exceptions for abortions after saying he would sign the Person-hood Bill into law that has NO EXCEPTIONS. You can't find one subject Mittens hasn't given 2 answers for. As Governor of Mass. he signed a BAN on Assault Rifles into law. Honestly does anyone know were he stands on anything?
Obama is a straight up guy, he can't help it his party doesn't believe in GOD! Sirie
I'm a Democrat, I'm a member of his party oh and I believe in God. In fact I probably am a better Christian than you. I'm not a hypocrite, I don't have to profess I am a Christian, like you.
Also for years I have heard that Mormons are not Christians, they are part of a cult. Now all of the sudden being a Mormon is okay. My niece is an Evangelical Pastor and has told me for years - decades, they won't go to heaven, because they aren't saved, yet she is voting him in - why?
Bt the way the party never booed God. God is going to be able to tell that the Party didn't boo him, just a party vote about Jerusalem that didn't go well (Google it). I'm thinking my God, a loving God, will accept me into heaven because I forgive and accept people like you, then you who forgives no one, always pointing your finger.
I have nothing against Romney because he is a Mormon, I have a disliking because he flat out lies. Flip-flopping and lying has become an art for him. Here is one of his current false ads in Ohio about GM & Chrysler building Jeeps in China. Chrysler & GM have come out and said that is a flat out lie, but that doesn't stop Mittens from running the ad. Its amazing to me that you would vote for him. To each his own.
The POTUS is clearly covering up what happened in Benghazi. For those of you who think he knows nothing about this, you are WRONG. Just ask Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods. This administration makes me sick. Obama, Hillary and everyone else in the Situation Room watching these 4 great Americans lose their lives........you all disgust me.
Prove it.
NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO PROVE BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING BUT ACCUSATIONS. There's no proof of any coverup. Accusations are not proof.
If you can prove it as a fact do so or stfu and crawl back into your hole.
AND THAT GOES FOR THAT LYING SACK OF **** MCCAIN TOO.
ROMNEY ONCE **** A GOAT. HE'S JUST TRYING TO COVER IT UP, HONEST. :)
Caesar,
I was referring to what happened to Caesar and the similarities in the reasons. I guess you don't see the similarities like I do! Your words sure make it clear!
Caesar,
I was referring to what happened to Caesar and the similarities in the reasons. I guess you don't see the similarities like I do! Your words sure make it clear!
Since the republican party has tried to all but erase any memory of George W. Bush, McCain is all they got. He was on the wrong side back in 2008, and he is on the wrong side now.
"The fundamentals of the American economy are sound." Days later, Lehman Brothers went broke, and the stock market crashed, millions of Americans lost their job, and the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression took hold of America.
Then came Obama, and turned it around. You won't hear much politicking from Obama in the next few days. He is actually working to help repair the damage from Sandy. At least this time, nobody can blame Bush for this directly....
When are those repubs ever going to learn that the dems are only interested in the positive events. The repubs need to get it through their heads that the dems don't care about any event that doesn't put the prez in a positive light and the media is more than willing to accomodate.
The latest news is that the prez has stated that he gave orders for the military to take action while the Benghazi attack was taking place. However, SecDef panetta and the military generals never acted on those orders. Surely our prez wouldn't lie to the whole world when he made such a public statement. The question remains - why did the commanders and SecDef defy the prez's orders or is he throwing his administration under the bus?
Like I thought.
NO PROOF, JUST STUPID REPUBLITARD ACCUSATIONS. :)
So, while President Obama works tirelessly to help those endangered by the storm, bitter old McSame slips in a dishonest attack. Don't think that the majority of Americans won't see this for what it's worth, and that they won't remember this same man "suspending his campaign" to rush back to Washington when the economy crashed... and do absolutely nothing but stand with his hat in his hand.
I wonder if he attacked before or after he wrote a big fat check to the Red Cross? ;)
Gotta agree with the tireless efforts at obfuscating and avoiding the release of information regarding his role during the Benghazi.
When there is very credible information contradicting what obama has stated and somebody calls you out on it how is that dishonest? There is obvious dishonesty but it is not coming from McCain.
Seal Team 6 answered the call to duty when Obama needed help with Bin Laden. When the Seals needed help in Benghazi Obama simply watched them die.
Censoring Facebook..
Navy Seals had a page up about Libya and The Obama Administrations failures. They were made to take it down. Can't let the truth get out.
Everyone knows no one can lie on the Internet and everyone who posts on facebook are who they say they are. OH boy do I have a bridge to sell you, slightly damaged by Sandy but still in good shape.
A man I would have voted for 12 years ago has long since devolved into..
""You kids get off my lawn" territory...sad...
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On Halloween, the parents sent their kids out looking like me.
I had that same man on my street as a kid growing up! His name was Red. He was a short little bald man who would come running out of his house yelling when any one of us kids would run onto his precious lawn to retrieve our ball.
and red had a daughter named fiesty..
God, trapp, you are lame. You need a new avatar. Unemployment is at 7.8%. Try and keep up.
alaska..
unemployment is 12.4% where i live..
K. Either way your little avatar is wrong. Just sayin'.
And he is further depicted in the movie Monster House,...
How come it's always the same crew yammering away and making excuses for Obama? Obamabots will support him regardless of how many scandals, how many dead, how many terrorists armed, how much disiniformation and lies are dessiminated. Love Big Brother? Love the Nanny State? Love having your civil rights destroyed? Vote Obama. The soviet citizens referred to Stalin as 'Papa.' Is Obama your daddy?
Another example of why I stop posting after my 2nd drink...
So alcohol is your current excuse? Well, that helps explain a great deal. Wonder how many Obama supporters drink to excess?
Define excess.
I find it interesting that McCain chooses to make his incompetence remarks about Obama at this time, with the terrible hurricane situation in the east. Obama had met and planned with those needed to be prepared to deal with Sandy when she hit and is being kept updated. The mayors and governors can contact him directly without having to go through others, he's accessible to them.
That surely doesn't sound incompetent.
Christie, a republican, has praised Obama highly today, multiple times, for all Obama has done in this situation, that in itself is quite impressive, crossing party lines.
McCain today just showed what an A$$ he is to go off like that with Obama demonstrating how competent and prepared he is dealing with Sandy.
Romney previously stated he wants FEMA to go to the states, how stupid. But, considering the source is a stupid and arrogant person who feels he's entitled to be president, not surprising.
Can you imagine what a fumbling idiot Romney would have proved to be if he had been the one who would have been dealing with Sandy.
That is one very scary scenario.
Obama/Biden 2012 - DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!
MyGirl: Remind me again how many died under Bush cohorts who are now Romney's closest advisors? Who took our civil rights away again? Who is it that stands up for the rights of all Americans?
McCain is a war hero.....
As far as Libya, all I can say is.....
Imagine President Obama, alone in Libya on 9/11 with only 4 people to guard him..........
jw101,
It seems to me that conservatives in this country have a short term and flawed memory. As I recall on March 23, 2011 President Obama's leadership skills put together a NATO Alliance to take over the no-fly zone over Libya in the time frame that the President talked about in the previous week.
Question: What role did Mr. Obama's Cairo speech have in the spread of the democratic aspirations of the Arab and Northern African peoples now known as the Arab Spring?
It appears that the President is not merely adequate, but prophetical and superior to many past presidents.
President Obama and Madame Secretary Clinton developed an outstanding diplomatic effort that formed a coalition and consensus in the U.N. and NATO that stopped a slaughter of thousands of innocent civilian Libyans and that brough the tyrant, murder of Americans (see Pan Am flight 103) and a long time supporter of terrorist, Gaddafi, to his knees.
That sir is true Leadership. The actions of a few dead enders in Benghazi pales in comparison and God rest their souls when President Obama finds out who and where they are.
I respect McCain for his service to America. But he is now a total fruit loop. This was the prior GOP choice with the kookhead from Alaska. Seriously, what would this country be like with those two at the helm the last 4 years?? It would still be winter from the nuclear fallout and Sarah would have installed a stripper pole and slip and slide in the Whitehouse.
No thank you to this pair or the next dumbed down Romney duo. The GOP is dead and needs to be replaced if this is the best you have to offer. Man your Obama early voting stations this weekend and take of business.
Silver Flyer.....
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ...revolution was going to happen even if Mickey Mouse was our president. He had no real impact. The Libyans play along to get their millions of dollars.
BTW - The Libyans sodomized Ambassador Stevens before they killed him
FACT : I had more security when I went out with my drinking buddies in San Diego while I was in the service than the Ambassador had on 9/11 in Libya. Obama should be ashamed.
Obama is over his head and you are drunk on kool-aid.
ALSO .......WHERE IS OPRAH THIS ELECTION? Even she doesn't trust Obama anymore.
jw101
It looks like these affairs are over your head and beyond your comprehension. Like the children in 'Peanuts' all you hear when adults speak is blah, blah, blah. I'd suggest that you go back to Fox 'News' and suckle on the teat of the outlet for the ignorant and low information consumer.
As for me I'll stand with an intellect and a strong and honorable leader...President Barack Hussein Obama.
Trapp. What do you think the Unemployment would be if McCain would have been elected. the Reps caused this mess we are in. Now you want to give them another chance to finish what they started. Are you out of your mind?
Take issue with your local and state politicians. The economy is recovering. If it's not happening where you live, then it's most likely due to local policies or just bad luck.
Shawn Allen ...
How dare you speak the truth! :) (Great post!)
Here in Utah, we're around 5.4% and we're actually working WITH the President!
Obama/Biden 2012
Quiet one23- you want to talk about competence?
EWR is opening tomorrow, and my husband and I were due to fly out. Auto checked in this afternoon- then at 8:30p.m., our flight got cancelled.
Want to guess why?
Because Obama is flying in for a photo op.
Now, I'm in better shape than most- I'm grounded in my own house. Guess how many people are stuck at airports, trying to get to where they're going?
Thousands.
So, not only do they get delayed because of the hurricane- they have further delays because of Obama.
That's competence, all right. Provided the first word is "in".
Silver Flyer
After reading your post, I think I threw up in my mouth a little.
Your "leader" has never held a real job. He is the one that is good at "blah, blah, blah." He didn't do ANY negotiating with NATO....he had others do it for him. (He didn't build that)
I noticed you totally disregarded Ambassador Steven's sexual assault and the fact that Oprah is no where to be seen. Amazing !
Live in your fantasy land all you want, just don't drag us there with you
If you reply again,.....WHERE IS OPRAH ???!!!!???
WHERE IS OPRAH ???!!!!???
WHERE IS OPRAH ???!!!!???
WHERE IS OPRAH ???!!!!???
He was a lawyer, writer, and community organizer for most of his life. Those are real jobs.
Writing and community organizing rely on soft skills, though, so I know what you mean. But, then, that means that he was in touch with the living conditions of people in a way that a "boss" can never be.
In the end, we're not electing a new owner, foreman, general, or even lawmaker. We're electing a leader for our society. Every president will be good at some things and bad at others. Obama's strength (though he hasn't had much opportunity to exercise it) is his ability to speak to us about our society, give comfort to the disenfranchised, and give hope for a more civilized and just world. Romney's strengths are likely a set of (no less important) traits.
I want the people of other nations, and the working poor of our nation, to look at our country as an egalitarian society. I want them to see that our leaders aren't afraid to be with the people, to speak their mind, and to hear the minds of others. I want them to see that the social bonds that tie us together are more important than any economic or military capability.
Right at the moment, the President is the closest to fulfilling that. I like that union workers and the poor feel that they have someone in their corner. I really like that foreign people see the US as a more respectful country than before. I like that people still have the faint hope that social justice will be done.
That's why I'm voting for Obama. I don't expect others to see it the same way.
I'm sorry about your flight; but what is all the shouting and malice going to accomplish. It doesn't help me, it doesn't help you, and it's not going to help the country.
Shawn Allen ...
Great post from a non-poster. I have faith as does Shawn.
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jw101 . . .
As a liberal, progressive, democrat ... I have to say I cannot stand that woman. She has more in common with Romney and self-promotion. I've never cared for her and her program. I am thrilled that the President has distanced himself from yet another self-promoter.
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Let's not forget United States Senator and constitutional law professor.
As for Oprah, I've got nothing against her. She's a very well paid entertainer and businesswoman who has previously endorsed the President...so what's the point?
In my book endorsements from the likes of Colin Powell and Christie's endorsement and assessment today carry far more weight.
jwj101, in my opinion you don't have a clue as to what has transpired in Libya or any other part of the world either today or in the past. Your simple meanderings are just regurgitated talking points gleaned from the RWNJ echo chamber. A true conservative knows history and President Obama's impressive record and then intentionally chooses to distort that record for economic and/or political purposes. You (and a whole lot of other low information consumers) seem to lack the cognitive skills to discern truth from propaganda and are the target, not the beneficiary, of the conservative movement.
There, there now. Don't let me bust your little bubble. Just keep your eye on Oprah, and Solyndra, and Fast and Furious, and birth certificates, and Kenya, and Chrysler, and food stamps, and college transcripts, and so on and so on.
I have given you and your cohorts enough. You are not yet worthy of futher response.
My dear friends BO 2012 and Feisty, I apologize but I will be out of Cool Aid on Nov 7th. I'm not sure how you will survive. My apologies.
BO 2012, I will also no longer be able to continue paying you to be a cut and past troll. Once again, my apologies.
- Empty
Silver Flyer
I appreciate your dedication to your candidate.
Just retire John you really are starting to lose it.....
Vote Obama/Biden 2012! Protect Women's and Worker's Rights!
Silver:
Christie didn't "endorse" Obama yesterday, nice try. Christie was being a REAL leader, beyond party lines.
Christie is one of Governor Romney's biggest surrogates.
Romney/Ryan with Christie, for a strong America!
Oprah, you ask?
Once Obama got full use of her MASSIVE endorsement and the Obama's moved into the White House, she was snubbed, mainly by Michelle. Jealousy perhaps?
Caroline Kennedy was snubbed too, when she wanted to talk about education, of all things..
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If you are so concerned about the families, how about not dragging them into the shameless politics of this? How about honoring the wishes of the father of Ambassador Wilson and the mother of Nave Seal Gen Dougherty and not used their deaths to score cheap political points.
Perfectly stated, Al!
I know all of you on the left would rather see this go away, but it's not going to. This could have been avoided had the President been up front about what took place and how it was an Islamic Terrorist attack and not try to place blame on some youtube video. The President, because he was incompetent or more concerned about getting reelected, should have addressed the American people within 24 hours. We now know that the WH and DOD were informed within a couple of hours that this was in fact a coordinated TERRORIST attack and not a spontaneous riot over a video.
On the contrary, sfcret. We do not wish to see the tragedy in Libya go away. But unlike you and your party, we are able to understand that it is an investigation that to this day is still unfolding. Try and focus. This country is dealing with a very current tragedy called Hurricane Sandy. Have you heard about it?
one breath you say you dont want it to go away and then taken back why there is an investigation currently? Contradict much?
What part of the phrase "act of terror" don't you understand?
and Al what part of Youtube does this act of terror belong to? Funny how it was initiallly blamed on a youtube vid and then the right is chastised for now waiting for facts. Do you lefties have no shame?
If it takes this long to get to the bottom of and produce the truth, in regards to a terrorist attack, God save us!
Romney/Ryan 2012 for better INTEL
Another member of the instant gratification crowd chimes in!
Tell us oh wise one, how long was it before we got to the bottom of the 911 attacks, dearie?
OH that's right... we haven't!
Al - Get your head out of the sand and think for yourself. Read the damn statement made in the Rose Garden on 09-12-12. I believe the phrase "act of terror" was mentioned quite a ways down in the speech and was spoken in generalities and not directly at the Benghazi attack. Show me where the President made the statement that this was a TERRORIST ATTACK or an attack by Islamic Terrorist, he never mentioned those phrases.
Now if you have your head out of the sand answer me this: Why did the UN Ambassador go on 5 talk shows to blame the Video, why did Obama mention the video 6 times at the UN Speech and why did the Presidents Press Secretary continue to blame the video? We now know, except for those like you that have your head buried, that the President knew within a couple of hours exactly what was transpiring in real time.
Do you honestly believe that the President of the United States is not going to be informed immediately when an attack takes place on American military and diplomatic personnel?
Alaskan Girl,
Yes Hurricane Sandy is a serious story however it should not be used as a diversion from the truth. Americans were murdered in Libya by terrorists and our current administration tried to cover it up....the story is not going away.
Feisty,
Do they still insist it is a youtube video? I thought Candy pulled Obama from the abyss saying it was a terrorist attack?
Please don't patronize me, with "dearie," like Obama does with sweetie. I thought you were one screaming about female degradation from the 50's?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juy9NwI8_i0
Romney/Ryan 2012 for no more partisan bullying
Midol is in the second drawer on the right... help yourself, sweetie! ;o)
Don't think it will cure your "I WANT IT NOW" problem but it will relieve your PMS!
Feisty:
Because, I am bipartisan, I will give you a wink back.
Only a few more days...and no...I have waited for four LONG years. Reading your comments ALL the way through...
Romney/Ryan for a classy "United" States of America.
Feisty is a troll and nearly in the literal sense. Dont expect any rational discourse from that barbarian's pie hole.
Independent Thought - if there is anything Mitt Romney has proved it is that all the money in the world can't buy class. He and Ann clearly missed the boat as far as class is concerned.
Now our President and First Lady - true class!
Obama/Biden 2012 to continue the classy United States of America
Seeking:
Strictly a manner of opinion, your entitled to yours, and I of mine.
Classy: Decent, gracious, respectable, noble
Romney/Ryan 2012 for bipartisan kind behaviors
Caesar:
I am not phased by women that behave like her. Underneath, they do have souls, somewhere.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Romney/Ryan for a strong USA
"They deserve to know why their sons were sacrificed in the needless fashion."
Sacrificed??? I was inder the impression that they died doing what they were paid to to. I assumed that someone must have told them that body-guarding in the Middle East could possibly pose some risk to their safety... I even thought they might have known it before the TOOK THE JOBS!!!!
Meanwhile, several of the usual goobs on this board can't tell the difference between a contractor and a martyr... Like many of their Muslim colleagues, they're just drama queens.
CA, Seeing that there were demonstrations in Cairo and in other countries that same day related to that Youtube video, would it not be reasonable to assume in the initial assessment that the Youtube video played a role in Benghazi? When more facts came to light, the admisitration correctly acknowleged that the Youtube video had nothing to do with it.
SFCret, now you claim to be a mind reader and know what Obama really meant when he said "act of terror?" Or was tinfoil on sale this week and you decided to stock up?
you'll have more success finding the fountain of youth
no it wouldnt be reasonable or responsible.
didnt have a choice and yet Obama still couldnt take responsibilty for in action, not until Hillary did and quite conveniently. Funny how people were predicting that and lo and behold, day of the debate he 'manned' up.
Sorry Al, 'that dog dont hunt'. BTW SFCret didnt mention anything about reading minds, he clearly read the statement and pointed out that it was mentioned in generalities. Tinfoil hats you say. interesting
What cover up? This is the lead story issued by AP on 9/13 and carried by many major papers that day. Does this sound like a cover up?
http://www.bostonglobe.com/2012/09/12/libyan-officials-ambassador-killed-attack/MXozc615Euij5gPjus0k2O/comments.html
http://www.freep.com/article/20120913/NEWS07/309130158/9-11-link-feared-in-embassy-attack-U-S-positions-warships-off-Libyan-coast
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21523678/obama-condemns-attack-that-killed-us-ambassador
Strange, I say the same about you...
From time to time, I do however, enjoy peeling back the layers to expose a bare-assed hypocrite! lol
Cheap imitations like yourself are a dime a dozen around here.
Say, why don't you blame the President again for your $10 a gallon gas and $100 a sheet plywood like you did this morning?
My goodness, selective memory abounds amongst the Obamabots. Did the little 'video' that was used as an excuse escape notice? Of COURSE it did, Obama never went on TV and claimed it was the cause of the attacks now did he? Nope. Pretend that Obama DIDN'T do what millions actually saw him do, up front and on the View, Letterman, in the UN, no, those events NEVER happened and you cannot believe your lying eyes and ears, you MUST only believe what Obama tells you to believe. Like being spoonfed your talking points? Do Obamabots have the capacity for reasoned thought? Apparently not.
Independent Thought -
Classy: Decent, gracious, respectable, noble - describes the Obama's perfectly and their beautiful daughters.
Romney/Ryan 2012 for bipartisan kind behaviors - not even close. "Bipartisan kind behaviors" - calling 47% of the people lazy and not worth his time even though they are seniors; veterans; the working poor? I don't call that kind. And, Ann commenting on "those people" shows how little class she possesses. I'm sure they think their money gives them class but that is like saying Donald Trump is classy - not even a little bit!
Obama/Biden 2012 - for true class in the White House!
Unfortunately, my girl, they have lost the capacity to think, and parrot whatever talking point is out today- even if it directly controverts yesterday's talking point.
In their world, either Ambassador Rice never made any of those Sunday talk show appearances- or she was speaking entirely on her own.
It is frightening- and exactly what our Founders sought to protect against. That's why we have a free press.
Sadly, many of the Fourth Estate are card carrying cult members.
One wonders what will happen to them next Wednesday. . .
So what action are you suggesting that the President should have taken that would have changed the outcome in Benghazi? Military action? Seems like we had this discussion yesterday. Or do you just want to continue arguing semantics such as the meaning of "act of terror" or when it was realized that the Youtube video has nothing to do with it. If so, argue away but that does not change any facts on the ground in Benghazi.
Indiependent Thought ...
And the greatest of these all to folk like you, noble. Looks you're in need of a King. Sad. Liberals prefer a democracy.
(Say you posted it above SS! good one!)
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You little arm chair mini presidents that think you know everything; and know absolutely nothing. You seriously have no clue what happened. I am positive there is a lot more to this story than we CAN be told. Stevens totally knew the risks of being in a volatile foreign country. Why are you not livid that 6,630 soldiers have died in two wars!?!?! And that countless soldiers have returned home with life altering injuries?!?!? Good old arm chair politician that think they know it all!!!! Four people died. Sad, very sad, but in the grand scheme of it all; they signed up for the risk by taking the job.
Al - Deflect all you want, it appears your reading comprehension needs some improvement. Now answer the questions I asked in my post at 3.9, and if you answer honestly I believe you will find your answer to the Obama cover up.
Kim from Utah - Of course we care for the military personnel that have been killed and wounded in two wars just like we care for the thousands killed and wounded in Vietnam and WWII, Korea and other wars. But your last sentence is just sick and uncalled for, I suppose you feel the same about first responders (police officers & firefighters) who lost their lives doing their jobs. When military and diplomatic personnel sign on they know the risk but they also have the expectation that, if necessary, their government will do everything to come to their aid regardless of the circumstances.
CA-and Al what part of Youtube does this act of terror belong to? Funny how it was initiallly blamed on a youtube vid and then the right is chastised for now waiting for facts.
I don't see how hard it is to understand this. The Benghazi attackers themselves say their reason for the attack was to get revenge over the video.So unlike the attack in Egypt this was a terrorist group.But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the government was right and the root cause of the attack WAS THE VIDEO.
Don't you want to get to the bottom of this? I don't think McCain is asking anything unreasonable. They (the White House) watched this happen as it unfolded. They knew there was no video and yet they put that story out. Don't you wonder why? If any side is politicizing this it is the left for criticizing anyone who asks questions about it.
We have a right to ask questions. If you don't care about the 4 lives lost that night, possibly needlessly and recklessly, that's your business but don't criticize someone for wanting to know the truth. And so far Obama, Ms Clinton and Ms Rice have done nothing but lie.
Not even this mob can intimidate me, no matter how hard they try. Daily the incestuous behaviors of a select few, whom have no sophistication and continually attack and berate, with words too disgusting to repeat.
If that is the representation of a liberal presidential run, you will need more than a hope next Tuesday.
Romney/Ryan 2012 for a nation without bully's
Y'all should do what I do and hit the ignore button for feisty and all her little carpet munching groupies. That way I don't have to waste my time even reading their drivel.
Uncle bob, the video has been debunked. it was not the root cause, it was a terrorist attack. not a spontaneous attack.
George W. Bush, the last Republican president, aided and abetted by a Republican majority in both houses of Congress for 6 out of 8 years, destroyed this country's economy!You would like to ignore it. You would like to wish it never happened! But truth is, it did. Now, you tell us you can fix this. In fact, you tell us you are the only ones who can fix this... riiiight!
Truth is, how can we ever trust Republicans again? Especially Mitt Romney, who has hired 75% of George W. Bush's old advisors? The very idiots who led us into this mess in the first place?
Before Republicans deal with anything else, they need to deal with this!
Heeeres Johnny .....Still fighting that Vietnam war ? Just retire you silly old fool ! Your an embarrassment to the USA !Congress and the senate should have an age limit of 55 and term limits 2 in a lifetime ! No retirement and no benefits and a caped salary of 45K a year !
Kim from Utah,
Friend Request sent. Those that bash our little Red State need to know that things change and we all do have a voice. Utah used to be a Democratic State (of course they wanted to impress Ulysses S. Grant!) but still we've HOPE!
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GM just built their new plant in Mexico while they owe American taxpayers billions of dollars loaned by Obama......
and Obama's response?-----
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More than 75% of GM's manufacturing facilities are in the US and Canada and accounts for around 14% of auto manufacture jobs in the US. As a result, we have a shrinking trade deficit with Canada and Mexico. It was well worth the loan, and I'd much rather the government be a creditor than a debtor.
I might remind you of the awesome amount of money the US taxpayer owes to their fellow citizens, foreign citizens, and investment banks. If they were as rabid about getting their due, the US would be bankrupt.
I love all you arm chair quarterbacks. You act like the President only has one thing to do at a time. You act like you could have done anything better. McCain and Romney thinks they could have and could do things better. I say to all of you. BS. Talk is cheep. Romney goes on and on and never said once what he would do different. In fact in the last Debate he agreed ed with every thing the President has done. Wouldn't change a thing. How about that? Romney is a used car salesman. I had a argument with a guy I worked with. His whole thing was we need a business man in the white house. This guy is a smart well educated man, but he knows nothing about what it takes to run this country. Romney's whole thing is like Bushes and Reagan before his Bush's dad. Give all the money to the rich and they will give us there left overs to live on. It didn't work the first 3 times we tried it. Do we really think it will work now. The Best economy we ever had in my life time was under Bill Clinton. And under the Newt. They worked together and got things done for the country. Something the new Teapublicans will not do. Boner can't get anything done. Country first means nothing to this Congress. They think if they make it bad enough for the working people, that these same people will elect Rep's. There wrong. Maybe the rich need to take all there money and move to China. The would rather support Communist China and there people with jobs, then support there own people and there country. But Profits first, not country first. That is the Romney bunch for you. Go live in China if you love it so much. We will get by with out you.
Here's a rule:
When you voted for a President who's responsible for over 4,000 deaths in Iraq....you can't seem outraged over 4 deaths in Libya.
CA-Uncle bob, the video has been debunked. it was not the root cause, it was a terrorist attack. not a spontaneous attack.
1. I didn't say it was a spontaneous attack. I know from the evidence (and the attackers own statements),they planned the attack.
2. The video was not at all "debunked". The attackers said they attacked because of the video.
Uncle Bob 512.....I wonder if you would feel the same if your child was one of the 4 killed in Libya?
Politics makes strange bedfellows.
A Vietnam War hero supporting a guy who gung ho for the War, but spent it proselytizing in France for the Church.
A moderate Republican,smeared in a political campaign by conservatives, supporting a "severely conservative" right winger.
A Senator who said we should stay in Iraq "as long as it takes" to make it stable, criticizing a President who dared to set up an embassy in Libya to support a fledgling democracy.
Amy..This is the Republican hypocrisy. Not one single conservative has ever answered the question regarding the call to war from those who never served like:
Romney..Special ministerial deferment.
Cheney..5 Deferments
Bush....National Guard deferment
Rush...Medical Deferment
Bolton...Deferment
and so on..
They like to deflect to Clinton. But when reminded that he answered the question as to why he asked for a deferment on the grounds that he opposed the War, All you get is crickets from these guys. His 1 hour interview with Ted Kopple was forthright and extensively covered by the press. No hypocrisy there.
Not that one has to serve in the military. I get that. But these guys are unbelievable. John McCain is an American Tragedy on many levels.
you forgot Bill C and J Biden and many others on the left.
Its one thing to flat out dodge the draft then come back wanting to be president, its also another to get deferments to pursue education or medically couldnt qual or religion.
We went over this before, military service or not doesnt qualify one for presidency. After all the current one never served in any capacity. Stop with Torp youre better than that
Excellent and irrefutable points Amy! Stated so clearly and concisely that one would expect almost anyone to absorb them.
It seems that the hard right created a job after all... a Nut job... And they hired McCain.
Hey Siezure... We've been over this before. What's the difference between not serving in the peacetime military and running away from the draft to a foreign country? If you want to qualify deferments based on religion any sane person would also expect the lucky little cultist to refrain from "supporting" the war and/or claiming that they "wished" they were there.
You can't blow enough smoke to screen to make Romney respectable or honest. Stop with your false equivalencies or everyone will noti.... oops! too late.
Who doesn't love a game of "Moral Equivalence"?
Of course there are never any winners...
hey Ruken but what about good ol Joe Biden? and again what Romney did was legal. Sorry DUDE thats how it works.
so you can only support a war or wish you were there if you enlist or get drafted. So when he said he wished he was there do you happen to know when he said this? Hey Ruken how long before you are cast back into the abyss from which you came?
Speaking of blowing Smoke you know Obama aint looking good, but keep trying to polish that turd. FAIL
who's the ref? im not overly worried about chick binder aka xabre aka ruken. the same person thinks eminent domain is wealth redistribution
Caesar you Rep's think when you do something wrong, all you have to say is it was legal. Like when Romney stole the Retirement money from working people. Somehow he found a way to make it legal. That don't make it right. Any Conservative Christian would have to agree with that. But Conservative Christian is a play on words. The two words do not belong together. Its an Oxymora. These people only be leave in and follow laws that are good for them. They are against a woman's being able to make choices about there own body's. yet the are for war and the death penalty. Little confusing isn't it? I think as long as they can make money off of it then its ok.
Why before making a comment don't watch the facts about Benghazi. A father is hurt and need answers about his son death. A lot to ask for?
The President has already said they are investigating what happened in Libya, and those responsible will be brought to justice. The Obama administration doesn't need any prodding to investigate from Republicans, who cut the budget for embassy security by 300 million.
Amy - There you go again with the left wing bull s**t about republicans cutting the budget for embassy security. That BS has been debunked by the State Department so just get off of the lying from the left wing nuts. Further, not that it matters, but more Democrats voted for the cuts than republicans.
We know what happened, even if the President claims he doesn't. Obama and the left is just hoping this will go away.
Amy, Embassy security is under the DOD. But you knew that. Liar
its actually pretty comical watching liberals defend the story that it was a youtube video.
get out the popcorn!
President Obama is hoping this will go away until after the election, then he can do the talk show circuit and explain what went wrong and why he had to lie to the people of the US and give us the Bull jive story that his Zombie followers will buy.
Amy, these arm-chair quarterbrains can't wait to find out what happened because they think it makes Obama look bad the way they "think" it went down.
As for a Father needing answers, he can wait too. I don't want to sound unfeeling here but the short road to the truth has never been a phone interview with Glenn beck. I hope they've eased the financial burden in return for that type of "coverage".
This Benghazi thing is just like the entire Obama presidency. Damned if you do and damned if you don't game the republicans have been playing since day one.
No matter what he did or say they were going to try and find some reason to attack President Obama. I mean Romney even told us he would in his 47% tape.
In 2010 the republicans ran on jobs, jobs, jobs and the house has passed over 50 new laws restricting women's rights and never even brought up jobs. If as a woman you are dumb enough to fall for the moderate mitt con and vote for Romney the real shame is not only are you voting to take your rights away, but you are voting to take mine away too.
If you don't think the republicans are lying now just like in 2010, I got a bridge to sell you.
Amy, I bet you also believe Obama will part the Red Sea, bring rain to the desserts of the world and magically create a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow! This guy has no soul to allow our American heroes to be killed as they were. Please get your news and information from other sources than the lame stream media. If you open your mind, you may actually learn something. I look at political topics from ALL angles, and I would certainly say the pres. dropped the ball on this one BIG TIME. If this would have happened on Bush's watch, the media would have SKEWERED him, no doubt. But it is precious Obama who is treated with kid gloves, so nothing will be done, and O will never have to explain his gross incompetence and negligence in the deaths of these brave heroes. He NEVER should have gone campaigning the day after he (or someone in his administration) watched these horrific and tragic events in real time, over a period of 7 hours. How can he live with himself? Had he authorized the security Stevens BEGGED for on multiple occasions, this likely would have been a non-issue. O and his administration have gotten away with murder -they refuse to provide crucial information to the families whose loved ones were murdered in a planned terrorist attack, and they are being protected by an unethical, complicit and pathetic media. Not to mention they purposely misled the American people for days and weeks after the events in Libya occurred. O, himself, said he takes full responsibility for what happened. He needs to MAN UP and be HONEST with the the families of those who were killed and with the American people, something I do not believe he is capable of doing because he lacks integrity and moral fortitude.
hockeymom5 ...
Link to that please and all of the rest of your BS? Would so like the source other than yet another
hockeysoccer mom with lipstick.Obama/Biden 2012
Senator McCain, did you ignore the CIA memo on the day that Rice gave her speech. Even the CIA chief had uncertainty in how it started.
That is a fact Senator McCain!
Either you are ignoring that fact or you are playing politics. We all remember Republicans said their #1 goal was to make Obama a 1 term President rather than help Americans (both civilians and military).
Debbie - I guess you can't read the unclassified emails that were sent during and right before the attacks nor the pictures from the drone during the attack. Now those are just the unclassified emails, what the hell do you think was being sent in TOP SECRET transmissions to Washington. It is apparent that you don't know the first thing about the military or the immediate messages by several means when any American military or diplomatic personnel come under an attack. There are contingency plans in place to address these situations immediately, somehow, for whatever reason, someone failed to execute the proper response to try and save these Americans.
You and all Liberals are ignoring the facts. Wake up America! Watch the facts ! They all blame a Video and now they are changing the story. It were an a Terrorist attack. CIA were waiting for the Command in Chief to give them the order to help. Obama were watching it as he watch Bin Laden to get kill from the Situation Room. He never gave that order. He did not have a Meting with National Security since September 5. All this are facts. Wake up people before is too late foe all of us!
senator mccain has more inside intelligence information than you have..
people failed and americans died..
that is the fact..
there is a cover-up..
can't you libs see it?
is it normal for liberals to call names and insults?
Oh really. Do you think you are owed every scrap of info even if it compromises an investigation? If someone is killed in a house the police aren't obligated to tell you every fact. It's how they catch criminals..withholding something to keep private. Grow up.
ram- you're asking the little radical righties here o have some common sense? I'm afraid that will never happen. They live in some world where information is immediately available - no matter how involved and intricate the situation. And, of course, they have the right to know it immediately!
What total imbecles! What PERFECT Republicans!
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Someone is going to believe the CIA please their job is to lie, cheat and do what ever it takes to make themselves look good. If they had information that would save 1000 lives but blow the cover of one agent or an operation 1000 lives would die.
Idiot liberals could watch a video of Obama shooting someone and they'd blame the victim for putting their head in the way of the bullet. Morons!!
Funny that Condoleeza Rice isn't joining in the Obama-bashfest that's going on.
Oh, wait, let me guess....like Colin Powell, she's just stickin' up for a brotha.
McCain is coming across as the bitter old guy now. Yes, Conservatives are all fired up now, John....too bad they're hellbent on electing Bush III, instead of someone more moderate like yourself.
Spartan117
Funny that Condoleeza Rice isn't joining in the Obama-bashfest that's going on.
Oh, wait, let me guess....like Colin Powell, she's just stickin' up for a brotha.
McCain is coming across as the bitter old guy now. Yes, Conservatives are all fired up now, John....too bad they're hellbent on electing Bush III, instead of someone more moderate like yourself.
Now that is too funny; Spartan
Considering that famous August brief called “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike the US” is included. ... Of course know that clearing brush and taking pictures took priority ... President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied ... influence elections and bring us back to the days when terrorists ran unchecked. Furthermore, our President did spend trillions to get bin Laden or get any American killed
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JSpartan117
too bad they're hellbent on electing Bush III,
9 Advisers Who Have Romney's Ear
Coffer "Head on Dry Ice" Black
Position: Foreign Policy Adviser
His Qualifications: Black was head of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center when Al Qaeda brought down the towers and is a former executive for the "private security" company Blackwater.
What You Need to Know: Black has long been associated with the Bush administration’s "dark side," including torture and extraordinary rendition. He's also a fan of colorful speech, having said that he wanted to "Capture Bin Laden, kill him, and bring his head back in a box on dry ice." That didn't happen, but a 2005 CIA inspector general's report did chastise the CTC for not sharing information with other agencies that could have led to the discovery of the 9/11 plot before it occurred.
Walid "Lebanese War Lord Adviser" Phaser
Position: Foreign Policy Adviser
His Qualifications: Phares has worked as a professor, counterterrorism adviser, author, and pundit for Fox News.
What You Need to Know: As Mother Jones first reported last year, Phares "was a high ranking political official in a sectarian religious militia responsible for massacres during Lebanon's brutal, 15-year civil war." Phares has tried to downplay his involvement in this messy war (which resulted in more than 100,000 fatalities) but according to Régina Sneifer, who served in the Lebenese Forces' Fifth Bureau, "Mr. Phares was aware of the crimes of Samir Geagea [a ruthless militia leader] and he was still close to him.
Robert "Saturday Massacre Night" Bork
Position: Judicial Adviser
His Qualifications: Bork was a failed Supreme Court nominee under President Ronald Reagan and played a controversial role in the Watergate scandal.
What You Need to Know: Bork, then solicitor general, agreed to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox, who was close to cracking open Watergate. (Bork's colleagues, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus, had refused to fire Cox and resigned on principle.) Ted Kennedy later said that "Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids [and] schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution." Bork has also proposed reducing the scope of the 14th Amendment, and says it's "silly" to think: "Gee, [women are] discriminated against and we need to do something about it."
Kris "Birther Flirter" Kobach
Position: Immigration Adviser
His Qualifications: Kobach is the secretary of state for Kansas.
What You Need to Know: Kobach is the intellectual architect behind harsh Arizona-style immigration laws all over the country. Kobach has flirted with birtherism and even sought to abolish birthright citizenship. But illegal immigration isn't Kobach's only hobby horse: At the GOP convention, he dipped his toe into Shariah panic by urging the adoption of an anti-Shariah plank to the GOP platform.
Paul "You're a Taker" Ryan
Position: Domestic Policy Adviser/Vice Presidential Candidate
His Qualifications: Ryan is a Republican congressman from Wisconsin and the chairman of the House Budget Committee.
What You Need to Know: Technically he's the veep pick, but in choosing Ryan, Romney tied himself to Ryan's policy agenda. In the past, that agenda has included turning Medicare into a voucher system so that seniors have to pay more for their health care, slashing Medicaid so that states have less money to cover medical services for the poor, old, and disabled, and all while cutting taxes on the wealthy. Where does Ryan's plan make up that extra revenue? In part by raising taxes on the poor. There's no one on Romney's team who embodies the "half the country are moochers" mindset expressed by Romney on that 47 percent video more than Ryan does.
John "It's Never a Bad Day to Bomb Iran" Bolton
Position: Foreign Policy Adviser
His Qualifications: Bolton is a lawyer and diplomat who served under George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush.
What You Need to Know: It's never a bad day to bomb Iran if you're John Bolton, the walrus-mustachioed Bush-era ambassador to the United Nations. Bolton has been pushing for an Iran strike for years, he recently said he thought the Israelis should have bombed Iran "three and a half years ago." A favorite of anti-Muslim activists like Pamela Geller, Bolton likes a good conspiracy theory himself, recently warning that a UN small arms treaty could take Americans' guns away.
General "Where's bin Laden" Franks
Position: Military Adviser
His Qualifications: Franks, a retired commander of the US Central Command, led the 2003 invasion of Iraq…and came in at No. 4 on Foreign Policy's "worst general in American history" list.
What You Need to Know: It's hard to know where to start with Franks: He didn't tell the American public he was planning on invading Iraq and then he helped spread the big fat lie that there were actually weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Once the war was over, he had no plan to deal with the aftermath. Oh, and he lost Osama bin Laden.
Harold "Drill Baby Drill" Hamm
Position: Energy Adviser
His Qualifications: He's a self-made American oilman worth $9.7 billion, as of September 2012.
What You Need to Know: Hamm would end federal control of drilling on government land, a policy Theodore Roosevelt ushered in to help protect wildlife and America's most beautiful places. Instead, states would have the authority to frack and mine government lands. The New York Times calls this "a radical shift from decades of policies under both Democrat and Republican presidents." According to Rolling Stone, Hamm has also given nearly $1 million to Romney's super-PAC.
Kenneth "Dow 36,000" Hasset
His Position: Economic Adviser
His Qualifications: Hassett was a senior economist for the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.
What You Need To Know: Hassett is your typical right-wing economist: He favors stimulus when Republican presidents are in office and austerity when Democrats are in office, and in that sense he's kind of a perfect adviser for Mitt Romney, who is known for changing his mind on big issues when it's convenient. Hassett is most infamous, though, for writing (with James K. Glassman) the 1999 book Dow 36,000, in which he predicted an ever-rising stock market. "Stocks are now in the midst of a one-time-only rise to much higher ground," Hassett and Glassman wrote, which is true if you ignore subsequent downturns including the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. With a track record like that, how can Hassett's assertion that Romney's jobs plan will create "millions of jobs" possibly be wrong?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-administration-top-advisers
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Just remember Mr. Powell won't run because of Pink Ville 2 cover up. He's not all that he's cracked up to be.
Typical republican when you get done using them trash them.
Just like how the republicans treat our veterans by voting against jobs for them. Just like the heroes of the world trade center we heard about for months and then the republicans voted against health care for them after they became sick. Just like our first responders who are so valued in an emergency like this storm only to be trashed later because they belong to a union and are then called leeches to our society.
And now Powell, he won't lie for the republicans anymore so now that the republicans are done using him he is nothing more than just a black man whose views don't matter anymore.
According to McCan't we are done with this "little blip" called Sandy and it is time to get back on their horses, bayonets at the ready, and continue with the campaign!
The real humor there is that horses and bayonets were cutting-edge military tech when McCain first signed up.
Take it from a comedian...
That would be funny except that whatever you might have to say about SENATOR McCain
John McCain flew a fighter jet that lacked a bayonet, spent over 5 years as a POW, was subjected to sustained and unrelenting torture, limbs broken, allowed to heal and then broken again. He was and is an American Hero.
Yes, criticize him for his beliefs and statements, but to ridicule his service to America is sort of embarrassing...
Spot on Dangerfield!
Then he should behave as one, because in this instance his service record goes out the window, in my book. He is at an event that is supposed to be a relief event for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. This event was a very inappropriate time for Mr. McCain to ramp up his base and attack the president. That is my opinion in this matter. It is blatantly clear that the Romney campaign is using this tragedy for political gain. That, to me, is not sort of, it IS embarrassing.
Yes, criticize him for his beliefs and statements, but to ridicule his service to America is sort of embarrassing...
Sorry that you don't understand the difference between the two...
what would one expect from AG, Seeking's alter ego. I dont care for Kerry but i have never mocked his service to this country.
I did not ridicule his service to America. I did criticize him for his beliefs and statements.
Dangerfield:
Great post. McCain's expertise and service make him a perfect person to comment and question details surrounding Benghazi.
I read posts last campaign, about his upper body stiffness, similar to Christie's weight this time around. Sad.
Romney/Ryan for a kinder USA
"John McCain flew a fighter jet that lacked a bayonet, spent over 5 years as a POW, was subjected to sustained and unrelenting torture, limbs broken, allowed to heal and then broken again. He was and is an American Hero."
He was a snitch. Hero my hind leg. The man crashed 5 airplanes and they STILL let him fly.
Guess which guy I'm about to put on ignore...
Independent Thought...(Hint; it isn't you)
(BUT) I would probably read my posts a little more closely...
Yes bob...McCain is a HERO and you are indeed a hind leg for that statement...
Tonight's homework; Watch "Hanoi Hilton"...
Dangerfield:
I passed the "guy" test ahead of the hint comment. :)
Romney/Ryan for women
The "guy" test...I like it!
Hailing Caesar...seems to relate to a previous thread regarding Sapiens...
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In the school I went to, they asked a kid to prove the law of gravity and he threw the teacher out of the window
That is my kind of kid. Thinking outside the "window."
Keep speaking your truths. No harm, no foul.
Where is VP Biden and Ryan??? Why are you so worried about McCain??? Got your goat? Oh he's able to multi task, campaign for his party and get relief for Sandy at the same time. Senior Citizens will show up the younger gen all the time.
bubba - no, McCain just appears to be the goat!
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Seekingstillcan'tfindit, what's wrong President Obama gets caught, can't stand the fire, gets lucky and a flood starts for a distraction now he also gets to move polling places, what a fine election this will be. Chicago politics will be at it's best right along with Tammanie Hall, don't think I spelled that right but you get the drift.
Yeah, bubba, I'm getting the drift alright........that you are crazy! Another conspiracy in the making is that it? You could be right. I think President Obama may have gotten his top secret scientists to play with the environment and have a horrific storm hit the entire eastern seaboard so that he could cause a distraction, move the voting places and thus cause wide cries of foul when on election day the president is declared the winner. I really think you are on to something here. I think you should spread this monumental and forward thinking scenario all around the internet. Make sure all your friends and family know what could be happening here.
Just think bubba, all of this from one small scientific space station. And you thought checkers were fun.
You know I think you have been listining to the President way too long. I said nothing about conspiracy or top secret scientists, I said lucky. Terry a good game of checkers can be relaxing and fun yes.
McCain needs to STFU and RETIRE, he's like an old dog that trys to chase parked cars and barks at clouds!!
I'd say he needs to hang on to his Senate seat until Arizona turn a little more purple....increases the odds that his replacement might be more sane than, say, Jan Brewer.
McCain is a great american hero and patriot and he served america by putting his life on the line..
it is very troubling for a leader and brave hero to witness such incompetence..
Give me a frickin break! If he is such a "great patriot" then he would not have done what he did at this event, an event that is supposed to be about the victims and tragic events surrounding Hurricane Sandy. Spin this @!$%# any way you want to, but at the end of the day it is still a steaming bowl of @!$%#, and McCain should be embarrassed.
Just as John Kerry never was able to get along with President Bush, McCain will never get along with President Obama.
Politicians are, by there very nature, very self centered, egotistical, and narcissistic. In order to run for President of the United States, you have to believe that you are the very best person in the world to run a country of over 300,000,000 people; which is the strongest country in the world and that you can convince 50%+1 of the voters in the country that you are the one.
When someone convinces the country that you are not the one to be President, you might just have some bitter feelings toward that person. Typically when an elder statesman loses an attempt at the Presidency, they retire from public office. Bob Dole, Al Gore, Dan Quayle, are few examples.
Thanks to John McCain we have Sarah Palin, and SNL now has Mitt and Ann. You cannot dream this stuff up, it just happens.
Thanks to Obama, we now have almost 2 million illegal immigrants eligible for green cards.
One becomes irrelivent over time by his own deeds. John has slipped into the abyss and now only matters to those who, like himself, are unable to keep up with the pulse of the nation. No on wants to see a great mind go to waste but it does happen. Thankfully when I go off into the great neitherland, I won't do so on national television but simply in front of those I love who can comfort me in the privacy of my own bed. God bless you John McCain, you were once my hero. I still respect your past deeds and appreciate your service. Now, it seems, you are either in over or out of your head.
He's probably looking at how fired-up Conservatives are to vote for a weenie like Romney, and bitterly cursing the fact he had to run for President after eight years of George W. Bush.
Someone should ask him..... u mad, bro?
McCain is hardly irrelevant, especially as he knows more about current events than many of the liberal posters here.
Although I do understand that liberals wish that he were so that they could ignore things like Obama's absolute failure to protect our ambassador at Benghazi.
I think this whole Benghazi hate froth the republicans are pushing is just to keep the republicans from remembering that Romney is the least vetted presidential candidate in 50 years. Romney asked Ryan for 5 times the tax records that Romney would show the people who would hire him.
Sure Romney knows everything about making money only he is most unwilling to show you the real proof with his tax returns that what he is saying is true. Would 1 and part of another years of tax returns been enough for you for President Obama when he was running and if not then Romney, if he was serious about running our country needed to cough up about 6 more years of tax returns.
A vote for Romney is a vote telling everyone that vetting our president is not important anymore.
Did "Insane McCain" ever read the so-called "Tea Begger Memo?" This so-called "Relief Event" was not to be a "Poltical Event." This is another lie by the GOP/RNC "Zombies." Never mind the fact that the GOP/RNC "Intervert and Chief." Showed a Campaign Video tgday in Ohio. Maybe he should have showed his false Jeep Ad in Ohio instead? It is obvious that "Insane McCain" does not know what he is talking about. "Insane McCain" should know that it is critical to gain all information first, and then sort out all the details. It is dumb and dangerous to go into a military action without all the facts first. That is just common sense. "Insane McCain" needs to read all the information presented to him. Again! Maybe someone needs to explain the whole situation to him. Again! It is obvious that "Insane McCain" is still Cognitively Disabled, and does not know how to properly use reasoning skills. It was "Ignorant Izza" who exposed all of our assets on the ground in Libya. "Ignorant Izza" has his dumb and dangerous "Cowboy Style" of running a committee. The GOP/Tea Beggers do not understand the role of the Red Cross. The Red Cross does not need canned goods. The GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief" should know the functions of the Red Cross. They have stated that they need money donations and plasma. The citizens of Ohio know exactly what the GOP/RNC "Pathological Liar and Chief" represents.
I agree Mitt can't even figure out how to correctly help the Red Cross and then actually does what Red Cross ask people not to do. Right? Romney can lead our country, but can't read a web site and figure out the best way to help people through Red Cross.
I can't believe the idiot republicans want to pass this twit as off as presidential material.
Funny...I thought these "Relief Events" weren't supposed to be political.
remember grenada?
unstable grenadan government and growng soviet and cuban influence on the island..
the commies kidnapped american medical students..
President Reagan sensed the urgency of the situation and immediately activated and invaded grenada..
did he wait for more info? no..
as commander in chief, he trusted his men..
thats what leaders do..they act..
they don't cower and later say we did not have enough information..
our military men and women are trained to act..
cowards in the white house..did not take action and americans died..
how can they live with themselves..
Hey, remember Beirut, where your good buddy Ronnie left 250 Marines sitting in an unreinforced building with only a wooden gate between them and a truck bomb?
What were his bold, decisive actions then? A couple of air strikes on Libya, and then we withdrew.....which basically told terrorists "Hey, if you bomb us, we'll leave you alone."
trapp211 - how do you live with yourself spouting your lies and drivel every day? If you have a clue about anything - which you clearly don't - you would know investigations into something of this nature can take months. Only idiots give a knee-jerk assessment - as John McCain has done. He has become a nasty, hate-filled old man who is still bitter that a young black man defeated him.
The cowards here are you, John McCain and the rest of the Republicans who can't bother to wait for facts because they just may not fit their rightwing agenda.
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Didn't Americans die in Grenada?
While we're revisiting the Reagan years...how about the 241 US Marines who died in a terrorist attack in Lebannon in 1983? Any Republicans willing to declare Reagan "incompetent" for deploying troops to a region under civil war?
The party of "We Will Be Greeted As Liberators" and "WMDs Are A Slam-Dunk" wishes to speak of incompetence with Senator "Bomb-Bomb Iran" leading the discussion?
Yes...let us have this conversation.
Amen, Da Noid:
Took a while to get to a post that cuts right to the CRUX of it! Amen!
I remember it differently. I remember the 241 Marines that were killed in Beirut. President Reagan went to Grenada to deflect and rescue some wealthy American medical students that couldn't get into good med schools so Daddy sent them to Grenda. It was done to distract us from Beirut.
Paul-977599
Yes they did die because they papachuted into the ocean at night in an ill-conceived operation.
Patricia -
There is a difference there in that military personnel know that they can face death at any time, as do their families. The ambassador was the representative of our government and not a military person (neither were the students in Grenada for that matter) and should have been protected by our government as best as possible. Removing security at the embassy and telling the military to stand down tells the entire world that this administration is not interested in protecting its representatives.
Patricia is right with 83 bombing of the Marine Barracks. but Amy of course has a different recollection because she is a diehard Obama Thrall. Grenada was a differnet story, whats next Noriega and Panama? Bosnia? Remember that time when the Marines rid tripoli of the barbary pirates?
Wasn't this what we were saying about Bush/Cheney on 9/12/2001? Either incompetent or engaging in a MASSIVE COVERUP. More than a decade later we still haven't had an investigation with the powers required to get to the truth. Let us start there, 2001, and we will be happy to hold Obama responsible for any failures he might be guilty of in the Benghazi attack. McCain wouldn't want us to know that truth.
Us republicans will end These entitlements 1 welfare programs 2 medicare benefits 3 unemployment benifits 4. Social security ( we republicans ) believe in self reliance. (take care of yourslef not companies doing it) the entitlements are to costly to our companies IF IT IS THE LAST THING WE DO WE WILL REMOVE THESE ENTITLEMENTS ( and we will win ) Us republicans will end These entitlements 1 welfare programs 2 medicare benefits 3 unemployment benifits 4. Social security ( we republicans ) believe in self reliance. (take care of yourslef not companies doing it) the entitlements are to costly to our companies IF IT IS THE LAST THING WE DO WE WILL REMOVE THESE ENTITLEMENTS ( and we will win ) P.S federal releaf will go
You are no Republican, and that is a lie.
Charles, poor guy, you are illiterate and crazy. Nope you won't win. I was at a focus group last night with republicans who voted for McCain that will not vote for Romney. Folks want moderate leadership. Not crap like you recommend.
obama lied and 4 brave americans died..
and then they are covering it up..
wake up america..
we are being run be an administration of amateurs..
first it was a spontaneous act.. then it was a terror attack..
obama is either lying or he is incompetent..
which is it?
Bush/Cheney lied and 4,000 brave Americans died. Your point is.....?????
It is a known fact that What so ever a man thinks, so is he. Incompetent? So is he. The American people made that known by not voting him in. Lies? We head them from his Master BUSH and now, from his lap DOGs Mitt and others.
Obama is lying about Benghazi. All of you paid political TROLLS seem to think that this will not be an issue with re-electing him - well, guess what? It will be. People are waking up to the fact that the POTUS and his entire administration are covering up for their failure to help these 4 brave Americans - true American heroes. It's over for Obama and Hillary and the rest of those who witnessed these murders. So, everyone vote for a murderer. All of you are disgusting. Mr. Charles Woods - I am deeply saddened and sorry for the loss of your brave son.
McCain is wrong. Obama is engaged in a cover up AND is grossly incompentent
The loser and grumpy old man needs to fade away. In 2008, the American people decided that he, McCain was the incompetent one. He will always be a part of that history.
The world in 2012 is alot different place than it was 30 Years ago. The "Cowboy Diplomacy" of "Brainless Bush" does not work at all. Especially in the Middle East the Unitied States does not want to do anything reckless. The information so far is indicating that the events in Libya happened very quickly. Who was attacking? Where were they attacking from? What group was attacking? Was it a random mob attack? Was it an organized group attack? No one knew at the time! One does not use military force in a reckless manner. An individual needs to know all the facts first, and then carefully react. To just bomb blindly at any group or building is dangerous. The last thing we need to do is stir up the Middle East anymore than we need to. This would be dumb! The example of Grenada is a bad one. This island was in our area of influence, and no other nations are directly next to it. The situation in Grenada was formed over a very long period of time, and the Intelligence Services had the time to figure out the issue correctly. President Obama will collect all the information needed. Our spies/sources will supply him with the correct information needed. The President will discuss all information with his advisors, and then he will pull the correct trigger. Just ask Bin Laden how this works? Oh! That's right! He is dead already. This President loves to kill terrorists every chance he gets. Better yet he really enjoys killing the terrorists truely responsible.
I don't know how important honesty is to most people in terms of a characteristic Americans would like in their President, but the statements by Romney in this ad in regard to the Chrysler moving Ohio factory jobs to China is clearly untrue. While I don't like the fact that Obama is as unconcerned with the massive damage to freedom, liberty, privacy, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as Bush, Cheney, and Romney with all this "national security before freedom" illegal "laws" passed to perpetuate a never ending war and clamp down on democracy in America, the balance for me comes down to a politician who will say or do anything, including lie, change positions on a whim and tell half the nation, mostly retired folks, veterans and the disabled that they are just a bunch of "takers" just because they no longer need to pay income tax. This ad shows that Romney has an "ethics be dammed" approach to power and that isn't what America needs.
McCain is really unhinged, he will go to his grave a bitter man losing to Obama. The right is trying to
make Libya into pearl Harbor. To be honest this is old news that no one is very concerned about.
Joel............This is NOT old news, but it is the very least that NBC could report without taking the chance of embarrassing Obama.
What NBC did NOT include was that the attacks in Benghazi went on for over 6 hours! That during that time, our two Navy Seals at a nearby CIA building were denied permission to assist the ambassador's compound under attack. An hour later those same Seals were again told to "stand down", but this time they disobeyed orders and rushed to the compound and rescued those they could find and went back to their CIA building.
Up to that time 2 hours had passed since the first shots were fired. At their CIA building the Seals fought on for over 4 more hours during which they tried in vain to get the military to send helicopter gunships that were only 2 hours away so that the Seals could mark targets for the missiles with their lasers. The Seals were killed by mortar fire.
All that time a drone with video capability recorded the fighting and was later replaced by a fresh drone. The video had to have been on display in Washington, and our yellow bellied Comander in Chief did absolutely nothing! And then Obama lied for a week saying that he didn't know if it was a terrorist attack.
THAT piece of ****...........That is YOUR president.
McCain must be a senile old man! To engage in an tirade against President Obama at a hurricane Sandy relief event demonstrates he is irrational. McCain doesn't even have a full set of facts as to what occurred because the two official investigations, one by the FBI and one by the U. S. Department of State are still in progress. Only a troubled loser would use an event for hurricaine relief to batter the president.
Beangrinder - how do you know that? What is your source of information? Is that confirmed by a second source?
What is Romney hiding from us? Mitt Romney's Father George Romney 12 years of tax returns. George H.W. Bush 19 years of tax returns. Bill Clinton 16 years of tax returns. George W. Bush 13 years of tax returns. President Obama 12 years of tax returns.
Romney's 2011 tax returns constitute 813 pages – more than 65 percent of which deal with his overseas investments, including substantial investments in a Chinese oil company, dozens of foreign bank accounts, millions of dollars stashed away in notorious tax havens, ownership of stocks in the Russian oil giant Gazprom, and bets against the American dollar by investing in Norwegian, Australian, Swedish and Canadian currency.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. With just two years of returns on the table, Mitt Romney still falls way behind longstanding precedent – failing to match other Presidential candidates. When faced with today's shocking revelations, the American people rightfully demand to know why, because the American people still want to know what he's hiding.
Mitt Romney Cofounder and CEO of Bain Capital and CEO of Bain & Company Profession Management consultant, Venture capitalist, Private equity has sold 50,000 American Business overseas and to China in the last 28 years.
How many Millions of Americans and American Families did Romney sold us out to the Chinese? Right now as he is running for office, its business as usual selling us out.
Mitt Romney is on the podium preaching the line that he would create jobs, while his buddies at Bain Capital the company he founded — are outsourcing jobs to China. But that is just the tip of the iceberg … The larger picture looks even worse and is happening right now as you read this.
These greedy bastards are not only pulling jobs out of Freeport, IL — where there are no good jobs to replace them — but they are actually packing up the Sensata Technologies factory and shipping the equipment … along with and our specialized American technology … to China. They are not even sneaking around like spies selling the technology to China, they are brazenly taking the technology and handing it, gift-wrapped, to the Chinese.
It is no secret that the Chinese have been breaking all our patent laws and stealing American designs and technologies for years, but now Mitt and his greedy cohorts are actually taking the technology to China themselves. This technology is worth far more than the plant is and will be able to generate billions of dollars for the Chinese economy while robbing America's economy in the process.
To make matters worse, they brought Chinese engineers to the plant between May and July of this year and forced the Sensata workers to train them, before losing their jobs to the Chinese. Usually a company is sold when it is not making a profit, but in the case of Sensata, the company made more than $500 million in the second quarter of 2012.
Aren't there laws about selling secrets to foreign governments? This Sensata plant produces high-quality sensors, which they sell to various car companies. The technology is uniquely American and is of the highest standard worldwide. The Chinese are just salivating over the prospect of acquiring the new technology … something they would take years to develop on their own.
FREEPORT, Ill. - The 170 remaining workers at the Sensata plant in Freeport, Ill., who will lose their jobs to China thanks to Mitt Romney's Bain Capital, will star in a new film about their struggle, to be released Oct. 26. Behind Your Back, to be available from Stone Soup Studios on DVD, and especially to unionists and their allies, portrays "the heroic struggle of the Bain/Sensata workers to preserve their honor and dignity amid this sad assault on their wellbeing and livelihood," producer/director Alder Lakish told the United Auto Workers. Lakish's film is the second pictorial revelation of the closure of Sensata at Bain's orders. On Oct. 10, the Steelworkers posted a video on YouTube highlighting not just the closure of the Freeport plant and shipment of its machinery and jobs to China, but low pay - 99 cents-$1.35 an hour - and terrible conditions that Chinese workers at Sensata suffer.
Romney has run his whole campaign on one lie after another.
Ohio's voting machines – brought to you by the Romneys. Mitt Romney's campaign has been hit by his links to a firm providing the voting machines that will be used to tally the ballots in the crucial state of Ohio, as concerns of voter fraud increase in the tightly fought race. Ohio is traditionally seen as the closest and most important state in a presidential election. The close contest between Mr. Romney and President Obama could easily come down to the counts in Ohio and Florida – the latter was the scene of a bitter struggle in 2000 between the Democrat Al Gore and George W Bush. President Obama still has a narrow lead over the Republican challenger in Ohio, according to polls, while Florida is tilted towards Mr. Romney. extensive corporate ties to the Mitt Romney camp" of Hart Inter Civic, the voting-machine provider that will be used to count the votes in Ohio, and the other key swing states of Colorado and Virginia. Reports in the US media since the end of last month have linked the company to Mr. Romney's campaign donors and his son Tagg.
Romney is a liar to Ohio!
Don't forget those voting machines are connected to a business of Tagg Romney - the same Tagg Romney who threatened our president.
I am guessing that Romney keeps his other wives offshore.
McCain you have no honor. Making attacks in the wake of a disaster shows this. I hope you get finished off in the next senatorial election sir.
Timing not the greatest, but facts that need to come out on Benghazi. The the mortar tube was "painted" as a target, but no missile came. Reinforcements were nearby, but never given orders. C-130 nearby , never given orders. All of this is coming out. Not by the White House, but the media.
He will be going home to rest
He seems tired and is not speaking as a patriot or someone who is focused. The people will retire him. We need sanity; not loose cannons.
This from the man who gave us Sarah Palin.
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan Are the World's Biggest Liars: That's a Fact
Mitt Romney has lied 533 times in the past 30 weeks. That's not an estimation, Steve Bennen has meticulously documented each one. All of Benen's documentations are verified and sourced. Romney is a proven pathological liar.
Well okay, Romney is a two faced, but so what, we all know presidents are nothing without their VP and cabinet. I'm sure his running mate has some honesty tucked away in his bulging money clip right?
Wrong.
It appears Paul Ryan is attempting to set the record for the most blatant lies a national figure has ever uttered.
Truth be told, I'm not a fan of republicans, or democrats. They are all time tested liars. It boggles my mind that these men and anyone who remotely resembles them are allowed anywhere near a decision making role.
Seriously, what scuzzy fraternity do so many of our politicians crawl out of and how do we not see their fake smiles and smell their crisp $100 bill lined pockets from a mile away?
Romney will lie 666 times before he is done
McCain is a bitter old man who can't get over his Presidential loss 2008. His mantra was "Country First" and that's why he picked a "Hillbillie from Wasilla to be his running mate - I'm sorry but he needs to retire and spew his hatred in a retirement home in the desert.
McCain would not have been my first choice last election. I think this country wanted hope and change and Obama promised that. But, I'm not better off as an independent now.. My kids are not better off. and Obama PROMISED he would cut the deficit and that if he couldn't get it done in 3 years then he would be a 1 term president.. He said that.. I can't trust him anymore.. He tried, but I believe he has failed. I'm voting Romney this time around. Obama IS lying to the American people about the Lybia issue and I can't trust him anymore.
Doc, that's gimp. You know full well that he had underestimated the racial hatred residing in the Republican party and had no idea they were planning to break all records of obstructive actions to hamper any progress during his administration.
You can fault him for underestimating the filth in the Republican closets, but you ought to give him a break for the herculian failures and treasonous acts of the party you're about to mistakenly vote for again.
Let's see if the media will bite...one, two, three...How much more obvious can you get? Headline is Libya...