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Updated 4 p.m. ET — Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney's campaign doubled down on its assertion about auto industry jobs moving to China with a new radio ad in northwest Ohio.
A Romney for president ad airing on Toledo, Ohio's classic rock station, WXKR, strongly insinuates that President Barack Obama's 2009 bailout of the auto industry has led to jobs shifting from the United States to China.
The narrator in the ad says:
Barack Obama says he saved the auto industry. But for who? Ohio or China? Under President Obama, GM cut 15,000 American jobs, but they are planning to double the number of cars built in China which means 15,000 more jobs for China. And now comes word that Chrysler plans to start making Jeeps
is starting to build carsin, you guessed it, China. What happened to the promises made to autoworkers in Toledo and throughout Ohio? The same hard-working men and women who were told that Obama’s auto bailout would help them. Mitt Romney grew up in the auto industry. Maybe that’s why the Detroit News endorsed him saying ‘Romney understands the industry and will shield it from regulators who never tire of churning out new layers of mandates. Mitt Romney – he’ll stand up for the auto industry. In Ohio, not China.
The radio spot follows a TV controversial ad playing to fears that Chrysler had plans to move production of Jeeps from the U.S. to China. Romney and other Republicans had previously given voice to errant reports suggesting such a shift, though those original reports referred only to capacity for production of vehicles in China for sale in China.
The TV ad drew extensive coverage in the media for its suggestion that Jeep was moving jobs to China at the expense of positions in the United States. Toledo, a prime swing territory in the battleground state of Ohio, is home to a major Jeep production facility.
The radio spot goes a step further in stoking fears that U.S. production of Jeeps would be moved offshore to China.
As First Read wrote on Monday, this series of ads — running during the closing days of the campaign — mark an effort by Romney to re-frame his opposition to the auto industry bailout and defend himself from Obama's attacks on the issue.
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Romney and the Republicans are the party of YES WE CAN! Yes we can "double down" on the Chrysler lie," Yes we can hide information from the public--Tax returns, and best of all, Yes we can buy national and state elections. And we can tell them on Tuesday, "No you can't!"
Hello;
Please tell me where he lied if this article was published on Bloomberg?
www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html
Truth Hurts-7188933
Hello!
The words are "ALL" and "MOVE" ( Chrysler will MOVE ALL production to china)
Listen to the AD again, read the article again and you tell me where he didn't lie.
K1200RS --
In answer to your Post 282.1, I too have a similar thought about you: You are NOT THE SHARPEST KNIFE in the drawer.
You need to use your [what does not appear to be a properly matured] brain and think WHY would Fiat-Chrysler management, represented in your source by Mr. Sergio What-his-name, deny the Romney claim of Jeep outsourcing.
WHY? Because the project is still in the offing, for Pete's sake. Anyone who has been in business knows that such "friendly" conflict-generating business news are usually announced in the "11th hour" and certainly AFTER elections, when they become "fait accompli" and can't hurt the Sitting Powers running for re-election and having helped you with bailouts.
Regrettably, I'm not even being cynical!
Your argument reminds me of the song, "Trouble in River City" from the Music Man:"
Ya got trouble,
Right here in River city! With a capital "T" And that rhymes with "P" And that stands for Pool.
We've surely got trouble!
FYI: On the obscure site where I verified the lyrics, there was a Romney ad. Gosh. Money to spare.
The suckers that believe all the anti-Obama smear are not mentally capable of an informed vote. Perhaps literacy tests for white people are needed, or at least a note from a psychologist that they are not a literal threat to themselves or others. After Bush, we know that they are and economic threat to everybody but the 1%.
Hello;
Please tell me where he lied if this article was published on Bloomberg?
www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html
If all we have to do is spout out websites with articles to prove our points, then here is one to say you are wrong:
Please add the article you are referring to as it did not post on the thread.
white people?...as always non-Obamers are racist...perhaps its best for you to comply with the literacy test so responses become more educated than simply towing the "just call them racist" line
MSNBC .....This is sorry journalism - You should be ashamed for not calling romney just what he is ..... An imposter.
ThomastheScot
I think Gov. Romney is more than an imposter....he is all of the following:
kleptomaniac.....chameleon....thief....liar...scumbag....mormom.....moron.....tax-cheater.....women-hater.....atheist.....poisonous snake....nincompoop......knave......47% obnoxious ........................
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Republican General Colin Powell voting for .....PRESIDENT OBAMA....
After hurricane Sandy, even, New Jersey Gov. Christie voting for....PRESIDENT OBAMA....
.........................REPUBLICANS JUMPING SHIP........................
Gen - why?
Truth Hurts-7188933
You are a very persistent person even if you are wrong
Hello!
The words are "ALL" and "MOVE" ( Chrysler will MOVE ALL production to china)
Listen to the AD again, read the article again and you tell me where he didn't lie.
Thank you, still trying to figure out the lie part. The last paragraph states it as plainly as the first.
Fiat and Guangzhou’s plant in Changsha in central China has initial annual capacity of 140,000 cars and is capable of eventually assembling 500,000 vehicles per year. The automakers will add production of a new vehicle to the factory roughly every 12 months and began building the Fiat Viaggio compact there in June.
There are a lot of posts out there that are just hate mongering, and I just want to understand the fact. I beleive a 'news' article before I believe an opinion journalist.
Truth Hurts: For some reason it won't let me copy and past the article so I typed it out instead:
factcheck .org /2012/10/romney-distorts-facts-on-jeep-auto-bailout/
you can copy and paste the above but you'll have to type in http:// first, and also remove the space between factcheck and the period, and between org and the first /
I have no idea why it won't just let me copy and paste.
Just because they will make all of the models that they now currently make; available to be manufactured in that country & for sale in that country, doesn't mean that they will move all of the US production to china. They are expanding in china.
Romney purposefully said that they will be MOVING ALL production to china.That implies US factories will be shut down. That implies that our tax money loaned to Chrysler was wasted. That is where Romney lied
GET IT?
Mitt Romney - dishonest SOS!
This is how LOW the GOP sink to...
I just hope people will see through all this LYING and CHEATING!!!
It is a SHAME... America will be the laughing stock of the world if MITTENS win!!!
Lyin Eyes Romney
This is the lowest of all candidates
He even puts his lies in your face
Any of the 99 percent that votes for him must be in his cult
would be bout the same as saying you must be in the presidents muslim brotherhood... just because someone doesnt agree with Obama doesnt mean we are racist or anti -Islam...this is why Republicans cant have civil conversations with Democrats.
truthtellerneeded wrote "this is why Republicans cant have civil conversations with Democrats."
You seem to be a fair-minded person, but that statement works both ways. Example: I've worked and paid taxes for 48 years, no food stamps, no welfare, but when I disagree with some supporters of Governor Romney, the reply I receive is "Get a job." The stereotyping has become ridiculous on both sides. I don't assume that everyone who supports Governor Romney is a racist or listens only to Fox or lives in a trailer park, and it would be nice if they did not stereotype those of us who disagree with them.
Romney must put the same spell on his supporters as Jim Jones put on his.
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As usual Team Mittens embraces and spreads a well debunked lie. The auto industry died under Bush and the party...was saved by Obamas plan period. Love my American made Jeeps Not worried about that changing
Mitt goes to a tanning booth, how ironic if Obama went to a untanning booth he would probably win with a landslide.
he is a chameleon ya know...
Then we could really see Obama's yellow belly.
Bug,
better that then Mitt's "brown" nose.
Mitt just wants to take America back..........he just can't remember where he put the receipt.....maybe its in with his tax returns......
JEEPERS! Does romney ever stop lying? Obama/Biden 2012 vulture/crying 104O's?????
Obama's Promises
Obama has kept his biggest promise which was to himself.
Live on the government dollar forever without never working a day in your life
The dummies in the Republican basement wil stay there until they drown. They have been institutionalized by the bosses upstairs. Racist?, join us; anti-choice?, join us; Nazi tendencies?, join us; Wonderland Tea Party?, join us; barely make through high school?, join us; religious wacko?, join us; commiefobic?, join us; anti-science?, join us; hate any group of people?, join us; neurotic jingoist?, join us; union jealousy complex?, join us; hate American history?, join us; need to be told what to think?, join us; blaming somebody for your failure?, join us; just don't get it?, join us; homophobic? join us; gun phallus dependent?, join us; ...
that is a great post to end the evening on.........night all....
Dr. Freud would have to write a new chapter titled Romneisaman
actually I think he is going through Mittopause.......
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
I think this is very fitting for the ones who have the proof of the Bloomberg news article, clearly Romneys source for this ad, right in front of you and still call him a liar.
truthtellerneeded:
Just because they will make all of the models that they now currently make; available to be manufactured in that country & for sale in that country, doesn't mean that they will move all of the US production to china. They are expanding in china.
Romney purposefully said that they will be MOVING ALL production to china.That implies US factories will be shut down. That implies that our tax money loaned to Chrysler was wasted. That is where Romney lied
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE ARTICLE THAT SAYS: "ALL PRODUCTION WILL BE MOVING TO CHINA"
GET IT?
Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.- Bloomberg article
does it not read....eventually make ALL of its models in that country
is this where his ALL came from?
GET IT?
truthtellerneeded:
All of it's models does not mean all of its production.
He specifically said "all production will be moving to china"
Don't try to cover for him , it's an outright lie on purpose.
and second of all have you watched the ad because he states......Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy, and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job....now tell me where he lied in that ad
and another clarification on what he said...
“I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China[.]”
hmmm he saw a story...not stating that he knows this as fact simply saying he saw it reported
That's not what he said.
Mitt Romney said on the campaign trail in Defiance Ohio " Chrysler is thinking moving all Jeep production to China"
"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China," Romney said at a rally in Defiance, Ohio, home to a General Motors powertrain plant. "I will fight for every good job in America. I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair America will win."
From The Detroit News: #ixzz2Aqj1Zkpw
you have misquoted him yet again
TRY AGAIN
Like I said before,"Moving All Production" is the lie. I don't know if you just can't understand or you just refuse to understand.
NBC, quit walking around on eggshells helping Romney! His campaign is LYING, AGAIN, and as the 'press' it is your responsibility to POINT THAT OUT! You are reporting "here is what the Romney campaign is saying now" and leaving it at that. It is perfectly acceptable, and helpful, to point out that it is crap. THERE is your story. Grow a pair or hire someone who already has.
Have you seen the size of Obama's ears lately? They really do get bigger when he lies!
Build the jeeps here and export them to China, that's what Romney would do. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
Oh yeah! how's he going to do that? Who's arm is he going to twist? Is he going to move even farther left and become a Marxist Dictator, or maybe a socialist?
Hard to believe that Mo Romney is doubling down on his lying Jeep ads.....after the Whitehouse and Chrysler told him that what he is saying is untrue.
Romney is so stressed at this point where he cannot keep track of all of his chinging positions and outright lies that get "bigger and bigger."
He is not only an unprincipled man, but a emotionally ill man, because these "double down Jeep ads" are helping President Obama.
LTC Rattus, USA, ret.
@ singleup
one does not need to cover for anyone when the truth can be shown to you in black and white
If it's the truth, why is GM jumping on Romney's A$$ about his radio AD and Chrysler is jumping on him about what he said in Defiance. Don't tell me I know, they are beholding to Obama for his support in the auto rescue.
the filth and degradation of the GOP, MItt, Ryan, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, et all is so eveident as they try and re-frame their mistakes and callousness towards the electorate. Mitt owned substantial shares of Delphi - know what happened to their employees and 25 of their 29 plants? well the profits were kept by Bain, pensioners got shafted and 25 plants went to China. This man is a liar beyond imagination.
Jeep is remaining here, their operations have been in China for some time as is Buick and Ford, tis how you do business in China. the lie is outrageous - Jeep is moving everything over there. Barack saved Detroit and the auto industry, and the GOp ignored the issue. How many jobs did Barack save? quite a few GOPers and we know that you have no plan except to unseat the sitting president. Mitt can go to hell, maybe get a posthumous baptism into the catholic cemetary.
Obama/Biden 2012
After Romney lied about Jeep moving ALL of its production to China (which he read on a conservative blog) despite several stories that same week about the jobs that Chrysler has and is presently adding to its US Jeep production plants, Gualberto Ranieri SVP of Chrysler Communications started his statement by saying "Let's set the record straight. Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China." He then said that a careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg report would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments.
The same week, various Detroit newspapers reported "About 1,100 new Chrysler employees will begin working next week...to meet continuing strong demand for the Jeep Grand Cherokee." "Chrysler is planning a similar work schedule that could involve hiring 900 to 1,000 new workers at its Warren assembly plant." "Chrysler is investing $500 million at its Toledo North assembly plant and plans to add 1,105 new workers."
So after receiving this information Romney surely stops the lies? No way. He continues by putting out a TV and Radio ad with more of the same false information, adding that 15,000 jobs are going from the U.S. to China.
This prompted Greg Martin, GM's spokesman to say "We've clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days. No amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the U.S. and repatriating profits back to this country." To counteract the scare tactics by Romney, the CEO of Chrysler drafted an email to his employees saying, in part, "I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position. Jeep production will not be moved from the U.S. to China. Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand. It's inaccurate to suggest anything different." The rest of the email tells them about the $millions invested, the plant expansions, the jobs being added, etc. It's a good read and was printed by the Detroit Free Press, Oct 30th, with the headline "Chrysler's CEO Sergio Marchionne Calls Romney out for Jeep to China Lies"
There are Liars, there are Damned Liars and there is Mitt Romney.