If you know it to be a lie, keep on telling it over and over until it becomes your truth. That is the Romney way. He's getting desperate. Time to pull out the fear mongering card. What a loser.

Obama/Biden 2012

Seriously what a fear monger-er! Who cares what rolls out of his mouth and whether or not it is true. Does anyone in that campaign realize that his BS goes world-wide????? And he wants to continue to show the world he is SUCH a liar!

Obama/Biden 2012

This just has to show you what a shameless liar Romney is. Gee I wonder where else he has lied?? Let's see - start counting.....oh way too long a list so the heck with it.

Obama/Biden 2012 the only HOPE!!!!!

Romnesia strikes again. Just say NO!!!! NO to more trickle down economics!!! NO to more new war!!!!! NO to morer tax cuts to the rich!!!!! NO to more government intrsion in your home and bedroom!!!!!

NO to Romney/Ryan!!!!!!!!

I haven't spoken about Romney like this yet, but by doing this, he is stuck on stupid!

People DIE; while Myth Robme (continues to) LIE!

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Chrysler itself issued a statement saying Myth's ad about Jeep was a LIE.

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But Myth Robme and Lyin' Ryan want to buy the White House so badly, they will say or do ANYTHING.

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A vote for Myth Robme & Lyin' Ryan is a vote for Citizen's United!

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Vote O & JOE, 2012 . . . Myth Robme, 1040's (he lied on his Mass taxes, & he's lied on his Fed taxes.)

When does something like this become libel? I don't get how he can legally keep doing this... this could effect Jeep's business, right?

Romney's commercials about this are lies, but don't believe me. Read it here for yourself at politifact.com.

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/romney-distorts-facts-on-jeep-auto-bailout/

Yes we know why and that is if Jeep wants to sell vehicles there they have to be built there.

Just out - President Obama will tour New Jersey with Governor Christie tomorrow. Bet Mittens is REALLY mad about that!!!!

Obama/Biden 2012

Lets just deport Romney to China and be done with him! He doesn't invest or bank his money here anyway! Damn traitor! And he wants to be President?!?

I want a president and his staff to either be more honest or have better reading comprehension.

And for anyone who says this is true, Chrysler refuted Romney's statement.

Well, just when you thought the GOP couldn't sink any lower, they plumb new depths. Wow. Simply, wow.

An out and out lie. "It's like a sow-na in here."

There ought to be some way they can lampoon that Progressive commercial. Mitt and Ryan could be listening to their new radio ad when their pants spontaneously burst into flames like the "other" insurance guys. Mitt could say "It's like the sauna in my vacation home in the Hamptons in here."

Ryan could bob his head.

Cutaway to shots of Ohio auto workers talking about how Obama saved their jobs. Cut back to Romney and Ryan with their pants burned off above the knees.

Voice over: "Is this the kind or president Mitt Romney will be?"

Obama/Biden 2012

trapp211- repeating Mitts lie over and over doesn't make it true - just makes you look stupider!

Theotokas - your post is disgusting. Yes, Biden was denied communion because he knows we have a separation of church and state and that, as a politician he has to respect that separation. So, his personal religious beliefs has no place in our government - as anyone who knows about our constitution knows. Joe Biden is an admirable individual whose shoe soles you'd have to stretch very high up to even touch!

Independent Thought (and you've never had one) I guarantee Mitt is fuming! He is no more bipartisan than the traitors in the Republican party who blocked everything the President tried to do to help the country. They should all be tried for treason. Oh, and Governor Christie truly seems to be liking the President. Nice change for him - maybe he's seeing what an absolutely dufus his candidate is.

Obama/Biden 2012

Antha, he can legally keep doing it because it is exactly what Chrysler is planning to do.

Sorry, White Collar - even Chrysler says it's a lie.

Theotokas - we never stopped being the greatest country in the world. It's just that you party-first traitors think we're only exemplary if you're in charge.

Mitt the Congenital Liar -

The President saved the auto industry, and Mitt the Liar has been opposed to the bailout (or Mitt the "Let Detroit Bankrupt")

This could really backfire on Mitt. One thing about the election in 2012 is it's in 2012. We know you're lying Mitt because the Internet is at least faster than even your lies.

Independent Thought - That is your problem, you fail to comprehend what you are reading. That article is about an article that basically said Fiat is considering moving some of the Italian output to North America (did not say what country) to sale. It said nothing about China. I should add the Fiat refused to comment on the story, which could mean anything.

"Antha

When does something like this become libel? I don't get how he can legally keep doing this... this could effect Jeep's business, right?"

At this time in the politics of this nation..doing what Romney and Ryan are doing must be ok with many possible voters..as they are all accepting that lie and many more as truth. Everyone needs to consider this..in this country we have something like 1% that are the wealthy driving our congress..we also have as members of our congress a 40 or more % that are among those 1% of the wealthy..just who do you think they will be more concerned about..the other 99%..or the 1% which they are all members of ?

"Reframe"? That's the problem with the news media - you are all so scared that the right will call you biased that you do handstands trying to avoid calling Romney what he is and has been throughout this campaign - a liar! Newt Gingrich is not among my favorite politicians, but at least he had the guts to call Romney a liar. The media should be ashamed that they are letting Romney and the Republicans get away with all the crap they are spewing. BTW, where are Mitt's Tax Returns - seems you guys forgot that one too.

Elliot:

Dude, seriously, you have your head buried so far up you ass, that you obviously can't tell what a shape-shifting-etch-a-sketch-shaking liying peice of crap Romnuts is. I recommend you do the following:

1- Pull your head out your ass so you can see the truth about Romnuts. he is NO GOOD for this counrty.

2- Take a q-tip and clean out your nostrils so you can smell the bull@!$%# that is coming out of your mouth,

3- Leave this post. We are tired of your racist, blind hatred for Obama. He is a decent man who is trying his damnest to fix this country's problems with no help from your ilk. Romney wil not win, the majority of Americans, at least the sane ones, (unlike you) see him for what he is... a rich, spoiled vulture capitalist that will say ANYTHING to get elected. This guy can't be trusted!!

4- Go hang out at RWNJ post so you can all bitch & moan together when OBAMA BEATS ROMNUTS on NOv 6th

Obama/Biden 2012 all the way!!

"Fuggetabouit"

Romney has no core values and is a complete liar. He has no honor, he'd sell his children( if anyone would buy) to be President.

You right wing idiots who think this is an MSNBC story need to look who's calling Romney out on this LIE. Chrysler, New York Times, UAW. I think that is quite a bit more than MSNBC, don't you?

All Romney has to offer Americans is more lies.

Have you noticed that his nose is substantially longer recently?

OBAMA 2012.....for America's future.

AlaskaGirl-

If you know it to be a lie, keep on telling it over and over until it becomes your truth.

It's the Karl Rove and Faux way.

They already know thier viewers are idiots, so they double-down on the lie to make it seem real.

Truly disgusting.

This is what propaganda in America looks like.

Even Governor Christie is sprinting in the oposite direction from Romney.

The Governor's campaign is loosing badly very quickly and they are absolutely desparate.

Salud

Independent Thought - I have seen reports from Chrysler that say they are going to add a second shift in the US. Why don't you just try to stick to facts reported by more than just Fox News. Romney may win the election, but he is making himself look pathetic. What good is it going to do us to have a President viewed as a liar by the rest of the world and half of the citizens. I know enough about him to never believe a word he says. I would be interested in your take on Romneys 47% speech and to know if you listened to the whole thing.

L I A R...this son-of-a-b*tch doesn't know how to tell the truth. First thing I learned growing up was to tell the truth and my punishment wouldn't be as bad. Just think what his kid's, grandkid's, and friend's think of this goddamn*d loser that will do anything to win. L O S E R/L I A R, you must be proud of yourself Romney/Ryan. Romney/Ryan = Loser/Liar, now thats a losing team if I've ever seen one and you will be too if you vote for these clowns. Don't let the bast*rds rob the bank of the middle class again. Vote for your future on Nov. 6, 2012, Obama/Biden 2012. Are Romney/Ryan trying to privatize disaster relief now?? Be aware my friends, be very aware.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

if Romney is so concerned about jobs, why doesn't he stop his own company, Bain, from sending jobs to China. Sensata in Freeport Illinois is about to be shut down by Bain and the jobs are going to China, where workers will make 99 cents an hour. Romney still owns 51 percent of that company. He claims his assests are in a blind trust, but he also has said that a blind trust can receive instructions from its owners. He has done nothing for these 200 people. And this company was doing very well. He could be a hero and stop this, but he chooses to add more money to his pockets. It is obivious that he is more concerned about profits than about people. As for Jeep, he is lying. I live in Ohio and I know for a fact that Jeep is adding more jobs and expanding right here in Ohio. Even Chrysler says he is fantasizing. He won't get my vote. Oh and he still hasn't shown much in the way of taxes. What is he hiding and why?

If Fiat starts producing jeeps in China for the Chinese market then those jeeps made in China will not be produced here and sold to china. We need to sell jeeps to China in order to help lower our trade deficit. There is no national minimum wage in China. Provincial minimum wages over there are around $200 dollars per month so with cheaper labor it will end up costing less to make Jeeps in China. Once they satisfy the local Chinese market they will probably start producing jeeps for the world market. Since it costs more to make them in the US I can foresee Fiat closing down US jeep production facilities in favor of production in China. It is a simple matter of money and profits. To compete for our own markets, companies have to either lower their production costs of government has to take action to protect US manufacturers from foreign competition.

The sad thing about Romney doubling down on his lie is that it will probably work. Notice that O'Brien only says that the ad is "controversial" and based on "errant" reports. Journalists' description of the earlier TV ad were much harsher. The more Romney lies, the less resistance he gets from the media as they get tired of debunking the same garbage over and over. The Big Lie technique works in the US just as well as it did in Germany in the '30s.

Will Haas,

So does the same go for Toyota, Honda, BMW, Hyundai, etc?

Should they pull all manufacturing and assembly jobs out
of America putting another ½ million well paid people out of work here?

Well what about Obama's economic plan for the next 4 years? It is mathematically impossible yet the press is not talking about it.

Stuff like this makes me wonder, does he really believe in his religion. If he did, wouldn't he be scared of going to hell? Same goes for Ryan, he's suppose to be very religious too.

Dennis, thank you for reading my post and commenting. Companies will eventually do what they have to do to compete and to make a profit. When I last went car shopping I wanted a car made in America. The domestic car makers models that I was most interested were actually made in Mexico. So the good old American car that I purchased was a Toyota.

Elliot - you are the prime example of a low/no information voter . . .

Using bold & huge type looks like "advertising to me" . . . besides being not just hateful, but disgusting . . . you would call our PRESIDENT "Bi**ch Boy? Really?

and then "Independent Thought says "Romney/Ryan for no more name calling??? REALLY??

Anyone who agrees that Elliot's posts look like "ADVERTING" - PLEASE mark them as "ADVERTISING"!

MEANWHILE. . .

O & JOE, 2012, Myth Robme, 1040's (because he lied about his Mass taxes, and lying about his Fed taxes)

Typical Republican BS.

All the lying, distortions, misinformation..they must have Herman Goering and Joseph Goebbels working for them...

You see, during the Holocaust, the Germans were fed a dose of lies over and over again, when you get this much b*llSh!t fed into ya, you start to believe it....

What disturbs most of us is the fact that in the 21st century, a lot of folks still buy into this propaganda...

Quite honestly, there is no difference between the Nazi Party and the Republicans...both are fighting for the same cause...

This election is not about Leadership, or the economy, or fiscal f*king responsiblity or the freagin deficit...if you believe in that hype, you are lost pal.

Look more closely and you'll what I am talking about folks. Hardcore Repubs praising Bill Clinton shold be a clue

Shame on you Repubs

Most people that have been caught in a lie admit they made a mistake and take their medicine………… Not Romney he just doubles up on his lie and expects everybody to believe him.

A Republican friend of mine just called me and said that after me pointing out to him for months that Romney was a liar; he finally agreed and said he was going to vote for President Obama. I asked him why he changed his mind, his response was “I just can’t trust someone as dishonest as Romney”…………….

Will Haas,

Auto manufactures mostly make cares in countries where they are sold because the transportation costs in the quantities needed/demanded ( 1 car rolls off each line every minute) are prohibitive unlike "Big Box" goods that are relatively small, easily packed n stacked and lighter in weight.

Barack Obama says he saved the auto industry. But for who? Ohio or China? Under President Obama, GM cut 15,000 American jobs, but they are planning to double the number of cars built in China which means 15,000 more jobs for China.

What a freakin' hypocrite!

While he spreads these lies, there are jobs going to China that Mit Romnay could personally do something about:

Sensata Technologies workers have been protesting outside the company’s Illinois plant against a decision to send 170 jobs to China, but the protest could end up as much more than just a local movement.

The auto parts company is controlled by Bain Capital, a company once led by Mitt Romney, and some online publications are starting to link the job outsourcing to the GOP candidate.

The ties between Mitt Romney and Sensata Technologies are not strong. In fact, Romney was gone from Bain Capital by the time the decision was made to send jobs overseas. But as Romney has become more aggressive in calling out President Obama for not taking a harder line with China, especially the country’s accused manipulation of currency, many publications are using Sensata Technologies as an example that Romney himself has a complicated relationship with China.

According to The New York Times, Romney still stands to profit off of the Sensata outsourcing...

So, Mitt Romney, here are 170 jobs going to China that you could personally do something about. How about it, Mitt? All it would take is one word from you...

Funny how repubs apparently want the govt to tell a
company where they can do business to maximize their profits! Isn’t that
against the whole “capitalism” thing? As with most car manufacturers, they
often make cars in the market in which they want to sell them. It’s cheaper for
them. Do you remember an article a few weeks ago about the different types of
cars American companies make overseas for those markets that aren’t available
in the US? It’s common practice. Would it be great if they made all the world’s
cars in the US? Of course, but as with everything else, they are concerned with
making money (think Apple) and this is cheaper for them. That is capitalism,
right? So, Jeep is saying they may establish a plant in China in order to sell
cars in China. They did not, in any way, say they were moving any of their US
operations to China, thereby taking away American jobs. But, that is exactly
what Romney wants us to believe is happening. Those trying to defend his
statements know that is the truth.

It's up to Obama's campaign to blast Robme for this in their own ad campaign. Run Chrysler's response to Robme's most recent false claim, in case the independents think it's just more negative political advertisement.

The left (which is really The Center right now) has to step up. This election should NOT be close. With Rmoney's 47% comment, his CONSTANT restating of his position on everyting from abortion to teachers, his inability to offer REAL detailed solutions (other than "I know how to create jobs" or destroy them is more like it), his inexperience on foreign affairs, his past as a corporate raider (they are heroes now?), his refusal to release his tax returns, and his persistant lies, should have all been exploited and this election should be a landslide. The Selfish Right needs to be called out for what they are. Walking softly around these issues, isn't gaining Obama ground.

If America elect that liar, then America has officially screwed the pooch.

Actually Romney is just a place holder for the right. They did not want him, but wanted President Obama less. Rest assured, if Romney is elected Grover Norquist will toss him aside in the Republican primaries. Romney is the only candidate they had that could walk and chew gum at the same time. He was the second choice in just about every poll they had until he was the last one standing. Let'ts make him the second choice in this election as well.

Romney's leadership attacks American businesses.

Remember, it was the Democratic Congress of 2010 that passed the small business tax write off of 100% in 2011 and 50% in 2012.

Republicans block the Farm Bill.

Republicans block the Veterans Jobs Bill.

Republicans can't stand America anymore so they select Romney, a man who puts his money in foreign banks.

Jed7

So, Jeep is saying they may establish a plant in China in order to sell
cars in China. They did not, in any way, say they were moving any of their US
operations to China, thereby taking away American jobs. But, that is exactly
what Romney wants us to believe is happening. Those trying to defend his
statements know that is the truth.

Exactly! Your comment is worth repeating. Romney is trying to suggest that Jeep is moving all manufacturing to China, when that is just another lie. I, in all honesty, cannot understand how anyone could vote for Romney. Ever. No matter how much you don't like Obama, at least the country is heading in the right direction and things are getting better. But sadly there are many out there who will vote for anyone but Obama and they guy they've chosen is someone who can't seem to understand what the truth is or realize that we actually have the ability to look back at his own words and see that he had a different position on the same matter yesterday (or in some cases, just a few minutes ago). If Romney is elected, and he does even a few of the things he is "promising" our country will be declaring bankruptcy or we'll all be paying higher taxes that we've ever imagined. The best we can hope for if that man is elected is that he lets Obama's policies stand and just takes credit for the inevitable recovery.

Jeff - I felt the same way in the 2004 election. After it was known that Bush withheld information and basically lied to the world, I thought there was no way he could be reelected. I was wrong. Grover Norquist and his backers (wouldn't it be nice to know who they were) only have to fool half the people.

Did some research and it seems to be true, that some way back in May, these companies announced it will create jobs in China. Did some more research and it is also true that Romney's policies will reward these companies by making them exempt from paying any U.S. taxes related to those jobs or the merchandise that is being created, and pay Chinese taxes instead. While Obama's polices will punish them and force these companies to pay U.S. taxes in addition to Chinese taxes. It seems Romney can blame anyone except the company for moving jobs overseas, but he can only blame himself for rewarding that type of behavior.

Yup,them repugs lie about lying then lie about those lies while they make up a new lie about lying about lies.Even your biased msnbs cant find those lies you keep spewing about,better run the race card instead-oops nope that ones been ran into the ground too.How about Crawl back into your hole its time for a real leader to take charge not someone who blames everything from the wind to his own failed policies on someone/something else.

elliot-3020456

Hey, Houston, what about the ad isn't true.

As the fact checkers already have pointed out, there are no jobs being lost to China, as Mitt falsely claimed at first and then just insinuated in his two dishonest ads. But you illustrate the point I was making well. I get tired of debunking the lies you repeat after a while and just ignore you. Same goes for all the lies and slander being thrown at the president over the Benghazi attack.

hungrymongoose

I don't think Romney will bow to the king of any other nation, do you?

No, but he'll bow to the Koch brothers and the other crazy billionaires to whom he sold his soul for campaign cash. He might bow to some of the Arab oil sheiks because they have lots of money, too.

hungrymongoose ...

I don't think Romney will bow to the king of any other nation

I don't know if you've read many of my posts lately but according to a great BBC poll last week, the only other nation that is delighted with a Romney presidency and is looking forward to it is Pakistan. Says an awful lot about how the lying idiot is perceived around the world.

Obama/Biden 2012

Looks like Romney just shoved a big stick into a Fire Ants Nest...If there was any doubt obout the truth of the add, it is gone now....

The great thing about Romney running this ad is that he is trying to scare the people of OH into voting for him, but instead they'll see the truth about what a lying, desperate, fraud he is and realize that he is not worthy of being our president!

EEngineer

What a freakin' hypocrite!

While he spreads these lies, there are jobs going to China that Mit Romnay could personally do something about:

Nice try at exploitation.

What you, and your comrades at the New York Slimes and Huff-N-Puff Post, fail to mention is that Sensata Technologies has been an international company since 1955.

From the company’s history on their website.

In 1931, the company merged with Spencer Thermostat Company of Cambridge, Mass. and formed Metals & Controls Corporation. This merger combined the capabilities of metal processing with temperature–sensing control expertise—capabilities that later attracted the attention of Texas Instruments and resulted in the 1959 merger between TI and the former Metals & Controls.

The business began expanding its operations internationally in 1955 when it opened a sales office and small manufacturing plant in Holland. Throughout the 1950s, additional plants were established in several other international locations. These included plants in Mexico then Europe by way of the Netherlands.

In 1963, Texas Instruments renamed the division Materials & Controls. Between 1963 and 1996 operations expanded to Asia (Japan, China, Korea, Malaysia) and Brazil. The business was renamed Sensors & Controls when the Materials business was sold in 2000.

You see my good Liberal bobbleheaded friend, this company has been an international company connected with Texas Instruments, Airpax and Honeywell for over 57 years.

And you useful idiots continue to blather about outsourcing being a recent development.

I wonder if you express the same outrage at Barrack Hussein for naming Jeff Immelt as our “Jobs Czar” when GE has shipped tens of thousands of our jobs to China and other offshore locations?

Have we heard about GE touting themselves as champions of the factory worker? Of course we have. GE has also recently closed more than 20 factories, shifted avionics and radiology businesses to China according to Reuters, and pushed for public policies that will allow them to continue that course.

GE is self-identifying "core" manufacturing interests, as though its other manufacturing interests simply vanished from the books. The truth is, they closed many of those plants here in America. According to GE's own records and statements, it had 125,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs in 2000 compared to 50,000 in 2010.

Government records show at least 38 events since 2001 in which workers at GE plants in the U.S. were made eligible for trade adjustment assistance due to outsourcing or import competition.

Immelt has referred to China as GE's "second home market"

Does it bother you that Apple, the manufacturer of iPod’s, iPad’s, Mac’s or other products you probably own, employs over 200,000 in China and Europe?

As I mentioned above, as a critic of outsourcing as you are, don’t you think Fiat should move all its Chrysler operations to Italy? Or is it OK for other countries to outsource and offshore their industries here but we can’t do the same as part of the new 21^st century global markets?

Or, is it just more irrational demonization of Romney and his association with Bain Capital to deflect from Barrack Hussein’s pathetic economic policies for four years?

Don’t worry, we real Americans know and understand your hypocrisy in this time of crisis as Barrack Hussein loses the presidency.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

LIES, lies and more lies. A perfect match! Lying Ryan and Mitt go together. Twin liars. The sad part is the number of gullible voters who believe them.

• All politicians stretch the truth but this Romney scum bag takes lying to new heights. He will LIE about ANYTHING, at ANY TIME for ANY REASON. He makes Newt Gingrich look honorable. I remember every election since 1952 and Mitt Romney is the mist dishonest candidate either party has nominated in the last 60 years.

Whitecollarauto,,, according to Jeep CEO the only Jeeps that will be made in China will be for Chinese consumption. And that's just a small part of the story. You need to grow up.

For the Last 3 decades US Car Companies (all three) have been selling Foreign Built cars and trucks in America...If you seriously think the Italian owned Car Company (Chrysler) or the Government Owned Car Company (GM) is not going do the same thing with jeeps and every other vehichle type that will be built in China or Mexico...Then you should be voting for Obama, just make sure you get someone to help write your name on the ballot

You didn't answer my question charlie.

Why are they going to build Jeeps in China?

I'll give you hint....it's not because they want to.

Elliot and White Collar Auto -

FactChecker.Org says that Romney is lying about the Jeep claim. See for yourself -

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/romney-distorts-facts-on-jeep-auto-bailout/

Full disclosure - I am a registered independent

hear are a couple of stories that were written before Obama became the US Car Company Champion

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/12/american.cars/

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/american-cars/story?id=13801165

WA POST says everything in the ad is true.

Team 0bama has nothing left to fight with so they just lie to all you lemmings and tell you that Romney is lying.

And you morons believe it.

Perfect little serf democrats.

Since when does the Washington Post tell the truth? Maybe you had them confused with the National Enquirer. They're more credible.

Independent Thought - that was a great link. There are others as well. I am reposting yours here.

People need to read. Romney's team need to contact Chrysler/Fiat and see if it is true. I did Bing this and found other sites confirming it was said. Maybe the Obama team planted this as a story so Romney would take it and run. I have little faith in either right now, but I am voting for Romney as I see him as the lessor of the two evils now. This presidential fight has really turned dirty and I do not like it.

I have two Jeep Grand Cherokee's. Both of them were "Made in Mexico". Go figure that one out.

People, go vote where your heart is. I've lived through the last four years. I want a better four years. I am sick and tired of paying more tax than others. And I am disabled. Just go vote for whom your heart says to vote for.

elliot-3020456 - I don't think that you read that Washington Post piece at all. It says the exact opposite of what you're claiming. It says in fact that Romney is factually incorrect.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-mitt-romneys-misleading-ad-on-chrysler-and-china/2012/10/29/2a153a04-21d7-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_blog.html

Even the CEO Of Jeep/Chrysler says Romney isn't telling the truth. How stupid do you have to be to believe Romney?

Not to stick a finger in the eye of the left, but the whole story is this.

Chrysler is not planning to build in China and import, but Fiat, the parent company IS "considering it's options" including moving Jeep Production to Italy.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-28/marchionne-seen-missing-fiat-sales-target-by-19-billion#p1

Isn't that precious, coming from the original out-sourcing pioneer himself- Mitt Doubledown Romney.

I can't believe just how stupid Romney really is!!

Exactly who's vote is he trying to win here?

So now saving GM was a bad idea?

Now he wouldn't have done it?

Now it's fact checkers be damned?

What a f@#king fool.

DB... Chrysler was saved. It was valuable enough to be purchased by Fiat. Jobs were saved to this point... 4 years after they would have been lost.

The fact of the matter is, however, that Fiat DOES own Chrysler and can consider whatever option it chooses to consider. That's the free market. It's the chance you take.

And it has NOTHING to do with Obama or how he saved the company. So what, he now shouldn't have saved it?

This argument makes absolutely no sense.

I really can't tell who the bigger liars are lately. Politicians or the Media. Romney runs around lying like a "madam" being questioned by the vice squad, and the Media says He is simply reframing His former position. What kind of sh^t is that? Media was meant to "inform", not "deform" and/or "reform".

One, Romney is lying. The CEO of Jeep says so.

Two, if Romney cared about exporting American jobs he would stop Sensata from moving to China. He owns 51% of the stock in Bain Capital.

Romney Ignores Bainport While Trying to Take Back 47% Comments

"Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China," the statement said. "A careful and unbiased reading of the Bloomberg take would have saved unnecessary fantasies and extravagant comments."

Also, from today:

"Jeep is one of our truly global brands with uniquely American roots. This will never change. So much so that we committed that the iconic Wrangler nameplate, currently produced in our Toledo, Ohio plant, will never see full production outside the United States.

Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand.
It is inaccurate to suggest anything different.
Sergio Marchionne"

I can't post the links here as it still classifies me as a new user, but you can find this and more direct quotes from Chrysler on the issue. Also, refer to Politifact for the truth on the issue, with provided links to Chrysler's quotes on this.

Despite what some people seem to be doing here, there is no defense for these claims and there is no truth to them, at all, in any way.

@ AlaskaGirl-759554, post 1.2

Wasn't it Romney who said his lying sons would try to tell him things over and over hoping he would think they where true but he was to smart for that? I wonder where they learned how to do that? I bet it goes all the back to his Grandfather and his reason for denouncing his citizenship and moving to Mexico. It's in their blood.

Mitt Romney – he’ll stand up for the auto industry. In Ohio, not China.

If the voters of Ohio believe that he'll "stand up" for their auto industry, they might first want to remember how he "stood up" for the auto industry in Detroit.

Geez Mitt...with all the money in your campaign, and all the little go-fers you have doing your bidding, can't you spare even one of them to do some intelligent research before you make a momentary public stand on an issue...any issue? Key word there is "intelligent"...obviously a foreign concept in the Romney camp.

However, the idiocy and numerous faux-pas of your "etch-a-sketch" campaign has caused me much mirth...and continues to do so. For as long as you've been running...for anything...one would assume you had a clue as to what you were doing. And to that end, one would be completely wrong.

Elliot,

Mitt Romney founded Bain Capital, was its only shareholder, NO evidence of a sale or taking it public. Ergo, Mitt most likely still owns Bain Capital.

LMarcT -- Exactly. Now apparently the wingnuts, including Romney, are all upset about the idea of the free market exercising its options and creating manufacturing jobs in China. I say 'apparently' because Romney's version has been debunked and they know that but choose to ignore it. Romney made a fortune closing businesses and moving jobs overseas and now suddenly he's horrified by the idea and all the rest of the wingnuts follow his cue. They can't keep their stories straight for more than an hour at a time. It's just posturing from one day to the next and they couldn't care less who knows. All the wingnuts who believe what Romney says actually should be insulted by his lies and his contempt for the public's intelligence, but unfortunately half the wingnuts know he's lying and just want the tax breaks and the other half really are too stupid to know any differently.

Antha,

When it starts to cost them money from lost sales they can blame it on romney's stupidity and he will be taken to court for damages.

Independent,

Please have an independent thought. You know full well that the Romney ad is to paint it as though Chrysler is moving American jobs to China. This is the lie. Chrysler is opening new factories in China to sell Jeeps to China. No American jobs are being lost or cannibalized. Unlike what Sensata is doing in Freeport.

This ad is just another propaganda piece masterfully done up so that it is factually correct but that the implication of the ad is a plain dead lie. Everyone knows what Romney is trying to euphemise with the ad and no one is buying it.

Lets see, are we talking about Chrysler or Bain Capital moving jobs, er...I'm confused who moved jobs to China??? Who has off shore accounts??? Could it be Gov. Romney is way off base on this one!!! Tea Party and GOP nonsense. Flip,flop, and lie and all of a sudden it's the truth....what a fantasy world!!!!

Here are a few quotes from our fellow Americans discussing Romney's lies. I know most politicians don't live up to George Washington's standards today.But Mr Romney has taken lying to new heights.And these Americans have seen through him.

"'We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,' says Neil Newhouse, a Romney pollster."Translation--'We will continue to lie and we expect to do so with impunity.'

"There are two lessons here. First, lies financed by deep pockets are hard to refute, but they must be refuted. Otherwise, there is no accountability in our democracy."
That is, or else our democracy morphs into a plutocracy."

And

"No one is misguided that politicians can "lie" but Romney's use of that media tool knows no limits and that is not acceptable and never will be. When Romney deals with any issue what is the truth? This nation will never know, one week we do this and next week..... Romney's lies are morally wrong and he will not only not be trusted in this nation but globally too since he has no use for the truth. Romneys' behavior only leads to this nation being manipulated beyond belief and a leader we would be ashamed of."

And

That dismissive wave of the hand. That nervous chuckle. That clumsy, transparent attempt to change the subject:"Is this the way we're going?"
The trademark evasive tactics of Mr. Romney when the media catch him in a lie and call him to account.
Four years--or eight--of this if he's elected. And Nixon looking like a Boy Scout by comparison.
Wow. Just wow."

And

"Mitt may have "mythomania" which would make him eligible under the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, for an intervention. However, I cannot tell if his lies are lies of convenience, opportunity, or just lies for the sake of lying."

And

" I agree with those who are saying it is up to us to hold Mitt accountable. It does not seem to me that the MSM has been doing a bang-up job on this during this campaign and that does not help.
But the worst of it is that Romney, himself, has the manner of a person who thinks he should not HAVE to be accountable to anyone at all. With that attitude how can he serve the American people? The answer, I believe, is, he cannot."

And

"While every politician might stretch the truth from time to time, Mitt Romney has taken outright lies to undreamed of heights during his campaign for the presidency. In his very first campaign ad Romney manipulated the president's words so that a quote from John McCain seemed to come from the president himself. Romney not only didn't take down this blatantly deceptive ad, but came out and admitted that it was intention to deceive the voters. Mitt Romney has never looked back since then. He has continued at every opportunity to not only tell lies, but tell lies which are so easily disproved by even casual fact checking. Romney obviously has utter contempt for the American people's intelligence. He believes that if you continue to tell a lie long enough, people will eventually begin to believe it. If Mitt Romney is elected next week we will be inaugurating our first Liar-in-Chief. How the founding fathers will weep."

After being caught lying Romney still keeps on his lie. Forcing Chrysler to call him out:

"Chrysler Slams Romney with Facts, ‘U.S. production of our Jeep models has nearly tripled"

By: Sarah JonesOctober 30th, 2012

How do you know when your lie is so big it won’t be allowed to stand? Maybe it’s when President Clinton said yesterday that Jeep has called Romney’s claim “the biggest load of bull in the world.” Maybe it’s when Vice President Biden asks if you have any shame. Or maybe it’s when the CEO of a major corporation takes to newspapers repeatedly to correct you in no uncertain terms, even though they know they risk alienating the frothing Republican base.

Chrysler isn’t taking Mitt Romney’s lies about Jeep moving production to China lying down. Just to be sure everyone has it right, Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne has written a letter published in the Detroit News restating the truth for those who have difficulties with reality.

Sadly for Mitt Romney, Chrysler’s side of reality is backed up by numbers and it tells of huge success – another fact Romney wants to pretend isn’t happening.

I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China.

North American production is critical to achieving our goal of selling 800,000 Jeep vehicles by 2014. In fact, U.S. production of our Jeep models has nearly tripled (it is expected to be up 185%) since 2009 in order to keep up with global demand.

Marchionne goes on to rub salt in the wound by pointing out how their success (thank you President Obama) has added jobs and will continue to do so, “With the increase in demand for our vehicles, especially Jeep branded vehicles, we have added more than 11,200 U.S. jobs since 2009. Plants producing Jeep branded vehicles alone have seen the number of people invested in the success of the Jeep brand grow to more than 9,300 hourly jobs from 4,700. This will increase by an additional 1,100 as the Liberty successor, which will be produced in Toledo, is introduced for global distribution in the second quarter of 2013.”

Marchionne makes a case for Jeep’s patriotism which only highlights the lack of patriotism in Romney’s Bain Sensata debacle, “Jeep is one of our truly global brands with uniquely American roots…. Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand. It is inaccurate to suggest anything different.”

Chrysler has committed that the iconic Jeep Wrangler, currently produced in Toledo Ohio, will never be produced outside of the U.S.

What Jeep is doing is building Jeeps for the Chinese market in China, and they are doing this because they have been so successful and want to expand their brand. They are not moving American production to China. Mitt Romney keeps telling us how much he loves cars and how he’s a car guy — how come he doesn’t seem to understand anything about the car business?

Oh, that’s right. Mitt Romney can’t win Ohio based on his record of “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” so he thought he’d smear Chrysler and scare Ohioans with lies about their jobs being shipped to China. Romney calculated the cost of lying to you and determined it was worth it. Who cares if he destroys Chrysler’s reputation or terrifies hard working people in Ohio so long as Romney gets what he wants.

Now, imagine Chrysler in this situation was Iran and the Ohioans were Iranian citizens. Any cost to having a leader willing to smear, lie and deceive with no shame in order to get what he wants? What if he wants a war to repay his campaign donors and the military contractors comprising his military “advisers”?

The President visited a Jeep Wrangler assembly plant in Toledo in June, whereworkers thanked him for saving their jobs. They wore t-shirts thanking him and one told the President, “Thanks for saving my job.” The President responded to the worker, “I appreciate your service, Mr. Dandar.”

Romney would have let an entire American industry go bankrupt and shipped the jobs to China in order to harvest GM and Chrysler for profit. He doesn’t want you to know that, so he’s deliberately lying in order to deceive you."

It looks like for Republicans the age of high speed knowledge has turned out to be the age of ignorance.

Jeep should sue Romney for promoting fear............it could have an effect on their sales.

Personally, I think any paid government official or person running for elected office who blatantly lies and or does not retract it with a contrite attitude should be heavily fined........

if lying becomes a pattern such individuals should be banned from holding public office in their lifetime.

Bring credibility and integrity back to politics...........................it is shameful that so many find this acceptable.

Look folks, the Chinese have been donating a lot of money to my campaign (no worries, Eric's got my back) so you gotta keep quiet on this whole Jeep thing. Its really no big deal I promise. I mean new Chinese jobs financed with American taxpayer bailout debt is not something you should be concerned about. What is important is for you to continue to donate to my campaign. What's that? You do not live in America? Do not worry about that folks! We do not check on that kind of thing (just keep it under $200- thanks!).

EC 2012!

Romney is doubling-down on lies, lies and more lies. Despicable behavior by a presidential candidate... how embarrassing for our country. I know Republicans think the rest of the world is backward but they do have the Internet and can see the stream of lies for themselves! How could Romney possibly lead after this circus show of deceit? Who could trust him?

Let's see. Mitt doubling down on the Jeep lie, Doubling down on the Work requirement lie here in Florida, Doubling down on the women's right against abortion AND Still saying he can create 20 million new jobs but won't say how. Yet you continue to scream about how much Obama lies and says Romney is "More Presidental". Anyone nervous yet?

So let me try and understand this fully, we have seen slow but steady increase in the economy BUT the economy is still doing poorly according to the republicans but did nothing the last two years to help move it along due to their hate for Obama and obstructionism plan they've had in place since he was elected YET not one person that is planning on voting for a Republican this election cycle cares that their representatives REFUSE to work with the president to get this country moving again. The republicans voted out EVERY Senator/House representative that was willing to work with the President and replaced them with candidates so far to the right it's conceivable that nothing will get accomplished if they are indeed voted into office. Then to add insult to injury they are supporting a candidate who has pledged to do Grover Norquist's bidding by being the "empty suit" specifically designed to implement HIS policies and NOT the peoples.

So I ask is anyone in the Republican realm nervous yet? Do you not see what is going on or do you not care simply because you want Obama out of the WH you are willing to allow the same policies that brought us to economic collaspe and allowed businesses to send jobs overseas without any penalty to be put back in place? I don't know about you but this is very disturbing to me.

If little green men land and say "take us to your leader" and that ends up being Romney, we're all f*****.

the republikons all think that Faux is the only one telling the truth and everyone else is lying, when in fact it is just the reverse.

Faux and freinds continue to spew this same lie that Robme is telling !!!!!!

you have to be pretty slow to vote for these guys !!!

Jim Spence -

What you, and your comrades...

Oh, you didn't! Yes, you did - you implied I was a Communist. Lest you forget, China is a Communist country. Why don't you imply that those sending jobs to a Communist country are obviously communists?

And you useful idiots continue to blather about outsourcing being a recent development.

Well, quite aside from your personal remarks, I didn't say outsourcing was a recent development! It has been going on for quite some time. And it is ruining this country! Mitt Romney himself has mentioned the manipulation of currency by China. Economists estimate that this gives the Chinese manufacturers as much as a 30% edge in labor costs. So, the champion of government non-interference (here at home in the US anyway) is really anxious to take advantage of any government interference in other countries! Don't you see the dichotomy here?

Or, is it just more irrational demonization of Romney and his association with Bain Capital to deflect from Barrack Hussein's pathetic economic policies for four years?

Ah, you just love those slurs, don't you? "Barrack Hussein" indeed! Ignoring your "irrational demonization", let's just look at the record, shall we?

...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Oct 30, 2012 13107

Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

Are we better off now than we were 4 years ago? We don't hear that much from Republicans anymore, do we? Because ... Hell yes, we are!

I get a kick on these liberals so "offended" at Romney's "lie".

Yet...none of them are offended by Obama's.."Obamacare will not cause your insurance to go up 1 penny." or "Obamacare will not raise your taxes." or "Obamacare will not add to the deficit." or "I did not allow those people to die in Benghazi." or anything else that idiot says.

Liberals...at least be consistent. If you hate someone that lies, at least start with the one you vote for.

This is hillarious. First, from FactCheck.org:

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/romney-distorts-facts-on-jeep-auto-bailout/

The company had produced Jeeps in China for that market before 2009, when the Italian automaker Fiat became the majority owner of Chrysler as part of the U.S. government’s auto bailout.

Chrysler is no longer an American company due to Obama's bailout.

It wasn't before. Mercedes owned a large part of this company, and also owns freightliner trucks. Seems like Chrysler is not capable of running itself.

There are two categories of responses on this topic: One (the VAST majority) have read up on it and know that Chrysler themselves say this is untrue. The second category are either in denial or have already accepted that whatever Wrongme says is gospel, regardless of what they see with their own eyes.

The incredible disconnect between reality and Wrongme's fantasy world is complete.

The Red Cross says PLEASE don't donate goods - just money, so they can concentrate on buying what is needed instead of transporting, sorting and distributing canned goods, clothing, etc. What does Wrongme do? He changes a scheduled political campaign stop into a canned goods food drive and pretends it is non-political. He made people wait almost an hour before his dramatic entrance so they could take pictures of him receiving donations. Fake, fake, and fake. Just like Lyin' Ryan's "dishwashing".

Shallow, mean spirited, obviously transparent, and deceptive. Wrongme's values.

Headline;

"Captain Specious" strikes again!

Mitt Romney has replaced Newt Gingrich as the worst lying scumbag in American politics.

trapp211

obama has sold out the auto industry to italy and china..

What a crock of sh!t. Typical Republican...take a fact, reverse it and use it to attack!

Republicans sold out AMERICA!

Chrysler is no longer an American company due to Obama's bailout.

Rickeroo...

It's not a question of Chrysler's ownership...it's a question of the Chrysler jobs in America.

And if you'll remember back, there wasn't a single American automobile company who was willing to step up and assume Chrysler's production, they were all going through their own problems at the time.

So. the choice then was to let Chrysler die or sell them to someone who felt they could make a turnaround. The bailout was the rational, and only, decision that could be made to ensure those jobs continue...as they do to this day.

Now, here comes Mitt citing a misconstrued blog evaluation ("I read somewhere today...") of a Bloomberg article that incorrectly stated that these Jeep jobs would be moving offshore...to China. His motives in doing so are transparently obvious...stir up the crowd with a scary story of jobs relocating out of the US, when in fact that wasn't the case at all, Jeep was talking about starting to produce Jeeps in China for Chinese consumption ONLY. And to make this fiasco even worse for his credibility, after Chrysler has gone on record stating that Mitt is completely wrong about his facts, his campaign still markets the bogus innuendo.

It appears to be yet another in a long line of Mitt Romney "shoot first, aim later" scattergun approaches to reality.

BTW...your quotation above does absolutely nothing to provide any validity to Mitt's statement...nothing at all.

Maybe we shouldn't dismiss Ann Romney's remark as a slip-of-the-tongue that she's afraid for Mitt's mental status if he's elected. She would know better than most people. Maybe the remark was intentional and maybe it wasn't, but obviously it came from experience. If Romney's elected (I hope not) and he has to be impeached due to incompetence/mental issues, look who'll be next: Ryan! That's too depressing to even think about. Please, Democrats, go out and vote for Obama and for a democratic Congress!

I meant to say: Please, Democrats, Independents and moderate Republicans, vote for Obama and a democratic Congress.

Totally agree with you Amy. The really sad thing in all of this is that there are many who are willing to sacrifice this country just to get the black man out of the White House. That is really what many of these extreme right wingers are banking on. They wouldn't care who was running on their side, just get that black man out of "our White House".

funny, funny, lonely, funny ...

And yet every country except Pakistan supports Obama. Such little armchair foreign policy you FOX lovers are!

Obama/Biden 2012

Layton - 1funnygirl is a one-trick pony and even that trick is getting old.

Obama/Biden 2012

1funnygirl - not so funny though. Go on to factcheck.org and check out all about the lies Mr. Romney has told in comparison to President Obama. And yes it is a non-partisan group.

Obama/Biden 2012

I see "it" has crept out from under some rock. Love the ignore button! Best thing since peanut butter! LOL SS: trick and pony in the same sentence does seem to identify "it" very well, probably the trick part more than we know!

TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS! TAX RETURNS! HOW 'BOUT THEM CHARITABLE TAX LOOPHOLES?!

O&JOE 2012

4 more4 44!

funnygirl: while your looking for lies, check out the letter from the Chrysler CEO about Jeep production plans:

1funnygirl, i know you are emotional, but still, calling someone "an A$$" is not the kind of civil attitute a decent person should have, nor funny.

Now, one lie doesn't make another lie valid. I think it's time to release an ad attacking Romney's Mormonis, how many secrete wives he got and how he pays alligence to the "prophet" in Salt Lake City rather than American people... Yes, these are absurd, but then it's the kind of tactics Romney campign is waging. I don't like it, cause again, I don't think this is the kind of attitude a decent person should have...

AlaskaGirl,

The GOP is the party for those white people who can't handle the fact our country is/has been changing. It is more ethnically/religiously diverse than ever. The GOP and it's supporters still envision an America ruled by mid age/older whites. They are intolerant of other's viewpoints and beliefs. Their biggest fault is their belief that if your not one of them then you are their enemy.

If you do the math on politifact.com you'll see that Romney lies 68% of the time.

Before the elections, he'll continue these types of lies. Anything to get elected, and they have the mega bucks from the corporations to continue to tell these lies.

Truer words have not been spoken imwhitewolf. These people are on the wrong side of life and history will show just how backward they are in their values and thinking. Their children's children's children will look back upon this time and wonder how such a party like the GOP could have ever existed and what kind of people must those in such a party really have been like.

dear unfunnygirl,

I wouldn't say the death of four Americans in Libya isn't a "big deal," I think it's a horrible event, and I want those who did it brought to justice, but I can't see how President Obama lied in any way, shape or form about it. (And neither can you.)

Romney accused the Obama administration of apologizing for the anti-muslim video released in the U.S. Romney ascribed the statement by the Cairo embassy, which was under seige from protestors of the video, with the White House itself. He came out with this political attack as the attacks in Libya were actualy unfolding. This is what Obama means when he says Romney "shoots first, aims later."

Funny Girl- your side demands 1000% accuracy and clarity from Obama when 30 days post Banghazie we are still not certain what happened where and in what chronological order.

Yet Romney puts out ads that are refuted by The company (Jeep), continues to state he was really for the auto bailout before it was called an auto bailout(now mind you Bob Lutz the vice chair of GM and a conservative Republican has publically stated-as did Rattner- that GM would have been LIQUIDATED before entering into bankruptcy) but somehow Romney is excused and Obama stands accused.

Now if that isnt the definition of hypocrisy 101 I dont know what is,

And you don't Obama is the same way???? Wow! Obama wrote the book lies and deception. Wake up!

ROMNEY IN A LANDSLIDE IS WHAT IS BEING PREDICTED! GOODBYE Obama and hello America restored!!!

SuperSport ...

HAHAHAHAHAHA - Libs are running scared now!

I don't see one SINGLE Liberal poster on these boards running scared .... We stand solidy behind our President and believe in Nate Silver ... you have heard of him over at Fox haven't you???

Obama/Biden 2012

Billy:

You started out strong, then sunk too. Shucks.

Romney/Ryan for a kind USofA

Layton:

Yes, Nate Silver stands alone in his polls. Maybe it is hard to measure heart and soul?

Romney/Ryan 2012

The other day had one of the RepubliCONS direct me to RCP where Michigan and PA are still in the toss up category all the while berating me for not being up to date with polling. Please, its going to be a close election and barring voter suppression(isnt it just the irony of ironies the only person found committing voter fraud is the RNC) it should be

Obama/Biden 2012

You stole it in 2000 and maybe in 2004 so dont act surprised being called out

Layton - and yet Nate has a winning record when it comes to the outcome of elections. I know the little righties can't wrap their feeble little minds around that fact but they'll have to learn.

Obama/Biden 2012

Independent Thought ...

Maybe so, but that cute little geek is always right!

Obama/Biden 2012

Nate Silver Rocks!

Nerds win over the bully rich-white guys again!!!

Don't ya just love the right-wing nuts projection BS today.

They are freeking out that President Obama is going to win in a Landslide!

Salud

Layton-3733410

funny, funny, lonely, funny ...

And yet every country except Pakistan supports Obama. Such little armchair foreign policy you FOX lovers are!

Who the heck cares what other countries feel about Obama? Is Obama disrupting their economy, or giving taxpayer money for causes and policies detremental to our country? Well, if you include foreign aid sent to those who wish us ill, then they would want to continue that aid.

Let US voters tell the world how they feel about Barry.

@

SeekingSanity

Layton - 1funnygirl is a one-trick pony and even that trick is getting old.

Continue to blow wind from your backside there Seeking. You have been the one-trick nag bag, here everyday attempting to blow smoke up the rears of anyone who doesn't agree with you. You're a blowhard deary.

@ AlaskaGirl - Taxreturns? Now that's the one trick poney statement you continue to use. With less than a week until the elections, is that the best you can do? Boring deary. Time to find a new act.

@Amy - if you had the opportunity to read documents that I did, you would have a different opinion. They will come out soon. Then comment. Obama and his Team have lied throughout this event.

Carter will soon move up the ladder when Obama takes his place as the worst president in history. Then you libbies can move forward to beat up the new president. Probably after all the 'al gore defense' issues are overturned.

I know the little righties can't wrap their feeble little minds around that fact but they'll have to learn.

you speak of feeble minds yet you couldnt get yours around a pin head. You cant defend your position ever, all you do is attempt to discredit others by calling them liar and stupid. Tell me in what warped world does that validate your postion?

1funygirl - you again prove you are a low class gutter snipe - nothing more - but perfect for the Republican party.

And do you actually believe people are stupid enough to believe you somehow have access to documents we don't? You truly are a classless mental midget!

Oh, the worst President is and will continue to be George Bush.

Obama/Biden 2012

funny ....

OMG ... how's that bubble!

Let US voters tell the world how they feel about Barry.

You already HAVE! They can read your idiotic posts the same as I. And a lot of people in those other countries that you so don't care about would give their eye teeth to have the freedom of speech that you have in this country where you openly bash and lie about your President. Many in other countries would die if they tried. Think about it and then remember which party supported and honored the troops at their convention.

Obama/Biden 2012

SeekingSanity

1funygirl - you again prove you are a low class gutter snipe - nothing more - but perfect for the Republican party.

Thank you very much for that comment Seeking Sanity. Coming from you it does mean much.

And do you actually believe people are stupid enough to believe you somehow have access to documents we don't? You truly are a classless mental midget!

I really don't care what someone like you believes Ms. Bovine. But to answer your query, yes, I do have access to those docs. Truely, I give a crap if you believe me or not - the truth will come out. Then you will see who is the liar, who gave up four lives, and who should be in jail for it.

As for being a mental midget, hardly. And when you choose to, re-read your comments to people then talk to me about class. You my deary, have none.

SeekingSanity-

Oh, the worst President is and will continue to be George Bush.

Amen.

No.2 on the list - Herbert Hoover

No.3 on the list - Richard Nixon

No. 4 on the list - Calvin Coolidge.

All Republican.

Go figure.

My guess is Funny wasn't even BORN when Carter was President.

You have NO idea what you are talking about.

Salud

Despite all the actual comments on this vine condemning Romney's lies, there still seems to be a herd of paid right wing trolls as well. Their easy to spot, they repeat ALL the Fox News lies, parrot Republican talking points [also lies] and add in a pinch of racism. Some people are totally without conscience and will do ANYTHING for money.......

1phonygirl - nah, you don't have access to anything. If you did, you wouldn't be blowing smoke about Libya, because you'd know that A) it's the House GOP that cut funding for embassy security several times since 2010; and B) our embassies were attacked almost a dozen times from 2000 - 2008, and people died in those attacks too. It's a dangerous job. Sometimes, when you've got a dangerous job, you end up in dangerous situations. Now, run collect your cookie from the GOTea - you've been a good little armchair warrior.

As a white man this post is directed at my fellow white voters.We already see that the President is the overwhelming choice of our fellow Americans of color.But I think we should consider that all the countries that we mesh with ethnically.The UK,Ireland,Germany,The Netherlands,France,Italy,Spain.And the ex-colonial countries that we are most like,Canada,Australia,New Zealand. All these countries that our language,culture,society,and religions came from.All of these countries support President Obama,a man of color,instead of Romney,a white man. Its not even close in their choice. They all,our closest allies,think President Obama is the right man to elect.I made my choice for President Obama because of his actions and character.As opposed to Romney's past actions and lack of character. But it's telling that ALL our allies feel the same way.

Obama/Biden for America.

Pedestrian-in-SF

1phonygirl - nah, you don't have access to anything.

1phonygirl - typical progressive comment, but you will shortly see information published. Hillary isn't the person to fall on the Obama sword, but the truth will come out. But I doubt if many libbies will believe it. Many in the intelligence community are unhappy with the Obama blame game.

If you did, you wouldn't be blowing smoke about Libya, because you'd know that A) it's the House GOP that cut funding for embassy security several times since 2010; and B) our embassies were attacked almost a dozen times from 2000 - 2008, and people died in those attacks too. It's a dangerous job.

I am not blowing smoke over Libya, just unhappy with those decisions to let people die. Now did the WH let the Tunisian embassy roll-over? No, a reaction team was on the ground to protect our people, even when a gapping hole was blown through the compound wall. Those Secret Service personnel who protect the dips also participated, securing both personnel and documents. And we are now out of Tunisia.

Yes, our embassies have a history of attack by terrorists. It is a dangerous job, and our people perform well. During several incidents, help was provided. Much was not reported by the media. But in no incident were people left for dead. Nor was the situations lied about as this one was.

Now, run collect your cookie from the GOTea - you've been a good little armchair warrior.

If you actually knew what a good warrior I am and how I have earned my living. Go run to your significant other and be thankful that you do have people looking out for you, people you will never hear about.

Heck, even some of us were involved in protecting Obama from a situation during the recent summit in Europe. Obama met with several of the folks involved in the plot. Read about it on FR?

I looked up the following words in the Dictionary:

garbage, filth, slime, gunk, scum, sewage, hypocrisy, excrement, dishonesty, dirt, muck, smut, trash, vomit, puke, barf, immorality, debris, manure, pretense, corruption, debauchery and depravity

Each one of them had picture of Mitt Romney included in the definition.

What happened in Libya is sad. It was very sad. It was a terrorist attack that was unguarded, that is true. And the righties always try to change the subject with it. But before the Selfish Right starts to make a political case out of it, can you answer who's responsible for the loss of THOUSANDS of Americans lives in Iraq? All based on another Republican lie. Obama's staff was caught off guard...Bush killed Americans on purpose. And Romney has saturated his foreign affairs staff with 17 former Bush advisers?

1funnygirl is most likely a troll, or a hker, or a hker troll. Not sure which.

1funnygirl,

Seems to me that saying Jeep is moving to China and have the Chinese say it isn't so, the CEO for Chrysler say it isn't so should be enough, but then Rumdumb says he won't retract his lie!

Charlie, You were right at the end about 1funnygirl. She's a witch, not which!

BTW: Nate Silver expressed his support for Obama.

Here is alleged weighting of polls.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331192/nate-silver-s-flawed-model-josh-jordan

I've looked down the list of polls Mr. Silver's is using, and noticed that although they are from both sides of the Isle and some "bi-partisan", they all use 2008 as the model or 2008 as a trend. According to this article, Mr. Silvers is weighting polls to what he thinks is more accurate.

It is not wrong to weight polls, but generally you identify a Democrat poll that is an outlier and cut it's effect and the same for a republican generated poll. I just wouldn't consider giving further credence to a democrat poll

I do not want the hassle of dealing with weighting, so the next best option is just to take them as is and be aware when a poll is out of line and commenting so.

Election Projection's creator weighted polls last year, but not this year.

Too bad the ignore function leaves the picture, 1phoneygirl's picture is making me ill...

That pic makes a lot of liberals ill.........I love it. And please, place me on ignore.

Speaking of phony pics, the two on the left are good, the top right must be Seeking Sanity! The other is who - Backhouse?

such a funny lonely girl ....

I've noticed you don't take your spiel back against me. Poor little funny lonely girl.

Truth hurts. Stand for your convictions. Otherwise, just keep trolling around.

Obama/Biden 2012

This ad by Romney on his stance on the auto bailout is an intelligence test - only people dumb enough to vote for M.T. Suit are stupid enough to believe it. He's officially jumped the shark; for the rest of us that are paying attention, we prefer to choose wisely. See - just like they say at Staples - that was easy.

Layton,

Now why should I give you the time of day? take my spiel back at you? You have nothing of value.

I do stand by my convictions, now and when those folks in the WH spend time in jail.

"Trol this Charlie. Care to see who has the bigger set of B@lls?"

Funnygirl -- is that the best you can do? I know 5 year old kids who can come up with better insults.

funny girl,

You are the one lying.

And don't say that Libya isn't a big deal, four Americans were killed while Obama did NOTHING when the chance was there. How about it Amy, four lives lost on American soil - yes, the consulate is America soil.

Are you really that big of an A$$ that you can't see the truth?

It was generals and joint commanders that decided nothing could be done when they didn't know exactly what they were walking into.

What makes you think you know more about this than they do????

Are you really that big of an A$$ that you have to politicize this tragedy?

Republicans do not believe Romney because they have to, but because they want to.

Stop feeding the Troll... er, I mean funnygirl.

At this point Romney has demonstrated beyond a doubt he is unqualified to be president of the US. Now, all that has to happen is the media to do it's job and expose the lies, corruption, dirty tactics and greed infecting the Republican party and Romney. It's time for the media to step up and challenge Romney for his tax returns and expose his incessant lies.

funny, funny, lonely, funny ...

And yet every country except Pakistan supports Obama. Such little armchair foreign policy you FOX lovers are!

Obama/Biden 2012

Including Iran! So you know those sanctions must be working! Look folks, Iran is never going to build a bomb, and if they did I would ask them very nicely to not use it! Do not worry! Look at North Korea! We have had sanctions on them for years and they never built a nuclear weapon or exported nuclear technology. Sanctions work! Everything will be OK. Just give me another 8 4 years. Everything will be perfect.

EC 2012- vote for me or you will run out of Kool Aid!

1funnygirl - I have a two questions for you.

1. Were you so outraged and disgusted when we went to war in Iraq? Were you so upset and angry that over 3400 military personnel not to mention the thousands that were injured or disfigured gave their lives for this country based on a lie? Were you ready to call the President out when he sent MY brothers and sisters to war without all the proper gear and equipment to keep them safe?

2. Are you upset and outraged that the republican party wants to cut funding for our military veterans that came back from overseas hurt or disfigured and are basically telling them they are on their own? Are you surprised that the President, THIS President is fighting hard against that proposal because he cares for the health and welfare of our troops?

See one thing you are failing to realize that as terrible of an incident this is, They knew the risk when they accepted the jobs as diplomats. Another thing you fail to realize is that the republican led house cut the funding for the security of our embassies but you're not angry at this little piece of information. Once you get all the information instead of the bits and pieces you will see that REGARDLESS of whose "fault" it is, it would have literally taken an act of Congress to help them.

PhonyGirl sounds like a Breitbart "operative" to me. What a joke. People who are "in the know" at the level she claims don't go on public message boards spewing campaign lies like the Jeep story.

YES, Red, you're riht! here is where Queen Annie called our President a child . . . a child!

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/romney-fundraiser-obama-business-evil

I can hardly wait til these despicable people go home . . . to ONE of their SIX mansions - I am sooo tired of both of them!

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O & JOE, 2012 - Myth Robme, 1040's (he lied on his Mass taxes, & he's lied on his Fed taxes)

Romney won't release his taxes because he took advantage of the tax holiday that the IRS offered for those hiding money over seas.

Has anyone determined yet if Queen Ann is a real human being or just another Republican Fem-Bot.

What a childish remark re Anne. Oh, it's Big Al, nevermind.

Look folks, this whole Mitt donating money to charity thing is terrible. Doesn't he realize that the government is far more efficient at giving money to people? We have been doing it for years! Come! Come! Have some Kool Aid! It's good for you! Here are some food stamps! You need them! If Mitt really cares about charity he will pay more taxes so we can redistribute the money to people who will vote for us.

EC 2012- A vote for me is a vote for more Kool Aid!

"What a childish remark re Anne."

• Funnygirl -- you post this "Care to see who has the bigger set of B@lls?"and then talk about someone posting a childish remark? You're a typical 21st century ditto-head -- accuse others of doing what you do.

Capt:

I think Clinton brought it up the ad yesterday, during the heart of the hurricane devastation. Am I wrong?

Romney/Ryan for a bipartisan USofA

Independent Thought

"Romney/Ryan for a bipartisan USofA"........

I have got to be kidding! How much is Karl Rove paying you to spread this B.S. around? I'm curious because I would like to know how much a human sole goes for these days when you sell it to the devil.............

I agree totally! I have problems understanding anyone supporting Romney over President Obama. He has no honest conviction. He changes his stance on an issue depending on what group of people he is addressing. The man has NO SOUL, NO CORE CONVICTION!

Velma and Al:

Did you see Christie today? He is part of Romney's team.

Not sure I have seen that level of bipartisanship from Obama in all his years of running for election and presidency.

Romney/Ryan and yes for a bipartisan USofA (Stands)

Romney is bipartisan?!?!?!!?!??!! Bipolar sure, but bipartisan? As the part time governor of Massachusetts he issued over 800 vetoes and 707 of them were overridden, some of them unanimously!

In the first presidential debate, Governor Mitt Romney claimed he had a bipartisan record as Governor, but history tells another story. In 2006, his last year as Massachusetts’ Governor (in which he was absent more than half of the year), Romney issued 250 vetoes, all of which were overturned by what the Romney camp dubbed a “hostile” legislature. It’s not just Democrats who didn’t get along with Romney, though.

Most of Romney’s vetoes were overturned, sometimes unanimously. Romney used the vetoes to claim he was a budget hawk, but in addition to his budget vetoes, he also vetoed a bill to raise the minimum wage, a stem cell bill and a bill to make the morning after pill available over the counter, among others. All were overridden. The Concord Monitor, observing Romney’s “frosty relations with legislators” noted in 2007 that this, “effectively remov(ed) Romney from the final stage of the state’s budget process.”

In fact, Romney didn’t like having to work with Democrats so much that he spent his first two years trying to change the party makeup of the legislature and when those efforts failed, he pulled a Palin. That is to say, he gave up. He was gone – out of state – for 212 days of his last year.

Romney was never around for the last two years of his governorship. A March 2005 poll found that only 32 percent felt Romney should be re-elected if he ran for a second term as governor. It got worse. In 2006, Romney spent 212 days out of state, campaigning.

Romney's 800 Vetoes Shatter His Bipartisan Myth

And after all, wouldn't you big anti-outsourcing Democrats prefer that Chrysler build new plants here as opposed to China?

If Willard were truly serious about keeping jobs in the US, I would prefer that Willard make a call to his buddies at Bain telling them not to close the Sensata plant in Freeport IL than to double down on his Jeep lie.

ChestyPuller - "massaging of the truth?" We just call it what it is - a lie! But, it's Romney so that's all we expect - lies, lies and even more lies!

Obama/Biden 2012

Gee if Romney was telling the truth - why did Chrysler come out with ads saying NO we are not shipping jobs overseas.

Obama/Biden 2012

I hope that Chrysler doubles down and actually releases commercials and ads in Ohio and Michigan calling out Romney's lies.

Use Google - look at "BainPort" - then be honest about who is doing the out-sourcing!

O & Joe - for the 99% . . . ObamaCare(s)!

so that means your claim, however inexact, is plausible...or "interpretable" in the way you suggest.

Chesty, you are so pathetic it's laughable.'

By your logic Chris Christie could say he has "six-pack abs", they are just under 8 inches of flab.

I would WAY rather a President that had outsourced a few jobs in his past, than a President that is Currently Outsourcing all of America, including our Constitution!

Obama’s Re-Election Slogan: “The Republicans Did That!”

UNINSTALLING OBAMA..... ████████████████▒ 99% complete

AMERICANS DIED AND OBAMA LIED!

ChestyPuller.......

Sometimes people are mistaken but when an individual knows better, that is, knows what they are saying isn't true as they say it isn't a mistake, it is a lie.

Honda, Toyota, BMW and a list of all other foreign auto manufacturers building cars in the United States do so as a means of staying competitive and avoiding import tariffs. The same holds true of auto manufacturers and China. If the cars were built in the US and shipped the landed cost would be much higher and the tariffs would put the retail value of the car beyond what the public can afford. Romney understands this just as he understands that most of his constituents don't. So he can lie and his lies are welcomed by those who would rather trust a liar than stay informed.

And that's what Ryan calls leadership.

"To counter the severe slump in European sales, (Fiat CEO Sergio) Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said."

Put the blame where it belongs. Even the CEO is saying to hell with upping production in the US. We will make them in our country to ship to the states and North America.

What ever happened to us exporting vehicles other than the costs involved? All the Japanese companies still do to an extent. Even a majority of parts come from the home country to plants over here. Some suppliers are moving here but not all.

Toyota got around tariffs years ago by shipping incomplete vehicles here for "final assembly". Pickup trucks were sent across the water to LA where they installed the beds to "complete" the vehicle. Funny too. I had one. The truck bed began to rust around the wheel boxes in just a few years and you couldn't stop it.

Supersport1966,,, You are a fool or uninformed or both.

lakerman2 - well Ann DID say she was worried about Mitt's mental health. Clearly we all should be!

Obama/Biden 2012

Great point, TurnKey - that would indeed be a banner headline :

"Romney Tells the Truth - First Time Since . . . . Birth!"

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O & Joe!

Bob- don't be a JERK, Jeep is actually ADDING over one thousand jobs in America, while ADDING a production line in China. Romney said Jeep was moving ALL production over to China.

That's a LIE

Romney is MUCH worse than Nixon. He is blatant.

@ Peg . . . probably, but maybe he is only calling 47% of us stupid

:-)

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O & Joe!

Peg and KJNC:

http://nlpc.org/cached/fiat-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy.html?q=stories/2012/10/29/fiat-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy

Romney/Ryan 201

- So are you telling me that the CEO of Chrysler doesn't know what he's talking about?

"Independent Thought":

"Four Pinocchios for Romney’s Jeep ad"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/30/four-pinocchios-for-romneys-jeep-ad/

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O & JOE!, 2012, Myth Robme, 1040's (he lied about his Mass taxes, and he's lying about his Fed taxes)

Jeep not leaving Toledo for China, Chrysler assures

by Elizabeth Reed

Posted: 10.26.2012 at 11:53 AM

Jeep will stay in Toledo, according to statements made by Chrysler following Mitt Romney's Defiance rally. / WNWO newsfile

Reports of Chrysler's plans to build Jeeps in China sent a panic through Northwest Ohio over the future of Toledo's assembly plant.

A Bloomberg News article reports that Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, is in talks with its Chinese partner about restoring production of the vehicle overseas. While the article stated Chrysler would add these production sites to its current operations, Gov. Mitt Romney referenced the report during his speech in Defiance on Thursday night, from which he concluded that Jeep production would shift out of the country completely.

"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China. I will fight for every good job in America, I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair, America will win." Romney said.

But Chrysler's vice president of communications, Gualberto Ranieri, issued a statement Thursday night, assuring Jeep had no plans to leave the country and that it would be a leap "difficult even for professional circus acrobats."

"It's simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world's largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation," he wrote.

UAW Region 2B director Ken Lortz called Romney's statements about Jeep production moving to China "offensive and wrong."

"The auto industry supports 1 in 8 jobs in Ohio. We Ohioans know the truth. We will continue to build our great products here in Toledo, in Ohio, and across this great nation because thanks to President Obama, America's auto industry has come roaring back. We will never forget that you were so quick to let it slip away," Lortz said.

The success of Toledo's Jeep production after the U.S. auto bailout has been something touted by President Obama during this election cycle. After Romney's remarks at the Defiance rally, the president's campaign reiterated Chrysler's statement and added, "President Obama has fought on behalf of U.S. auto workers by challenging unfair Chinese tariffs on U.S. auto exports to China, including Jeeps, while Romney would have let the American auto industry and a million jobs go under."

The Romney campaign has not yet issued a response to the incorrect statements made about Jeep production during the Defiance rally.

http://www.northwestohio.com/sports/story.aspx?id=817826#.UJCQlxyfQfc

nobama20 - learn some things about how you act in foreign countries. In Asian countries both parties bow to each other - it is a sign of respect. You're a blithering idiot!

Obama/Biden 2012

"NO" - provide citations, or stop lying. If you actually know how to do fact-checking (Faux Noise doesn't count as "factual") than provide FACTS - otherwise stop slandering the president.

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O & Joe!

Romney is an empty shirt. He couldn't even go watch his dancing horse without insulting our number one ally.

Not that i think anyone actually was taking you seriously before this but- factcheck.org is very nonpartisan, and so is politifact. Both very good websites. You can't call something biased just because it doesn't agree with you. How childish, with all your slogans and shouting

nobama20,

Really? That to you is considered foreign policy? Pictures of the President respecting the leaders of other countries? Mitt can't step out of a plane at the Olympics without making a total buffoon of himself! But you support that kind of leadership? Wow!

I take the man that is respected world-wide and getting there after the Bush Cheney fisaco took some work.

Obama/Biden 2012

Frugal -

No, factcheck.org is not non-partisan. All you have to do is look at who funds the organization - Soros is a big one.

Now, would you like to try another?

How about Chrysler itself? Are they lying too?

Jeep not leaving Toledo for China, Chrysler assures

by Elizabeth Reed

Posted: 10.26.2012 at 11:53 AM

Jeep will stay in Toledo, according to statements made by Chrysler following Mitt Romney's Defiance rally. / WNWO newsfile

Reports of Chrysler's plans to build Jeeps in China sent a panic through Northwest Ohio over the future of Toledo's assembly plant.

A Bloomberg News article reports that Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, is in talks with its Chinese partner about restoring production of the vehicle overseas. While the article stated Chrysler would add these production sites to its current operations, Gov. Mitt Romney referenced the report during his speech in Defiance on Thursday night, from which he concluded that Jeep production would shift out of the country completely.

"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state, Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China. I will fight for every good job in America, I'm going to fight to make sure trade is fair, and if it's fair, America will win." Romney said.

But Chrysler's vice president of communications, Gualberto Ranieri, issued a statement Thursday night, assuring Jeep had no plans to leave the country and that it would be a leap "difficult even for professional circus acrobats."

"It's simply reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output to China for the world's largest auto market. U.S. Jeep assembly lines will continue to stay in operation," he wrote.

UAW Region 2B director Ken Lortz called Romney's statements about Jeep production moving to China "offensive and wrong."

"The auto industry supports 1 in 8 jobs in Ohio. We Ohioans know the truth. We will continue to build our great products here in Toledo, in Ohio, and across this great nation because thanks to President Obama, America's auto industry has come roaring back. We will never forget that you were so quick to let it slip away," Lortz said.

The success of Toledo's Jeep production after the U.S. auto bailout has been something touted by President Obama during this election cycle. After Romney's remarks at the Defiance rally, the president's campaign reiterated Chrysler's statement and added, "President Obama has fought on behalf of U.S. auto workers by challenging unfair Chinese tariffs on U.S. auto exports to China, including Jeeps, while Romney would have let the American auto industry and a million jobs go under."

The Romney campaign has not yet issued a response to the incorrect statements made about Jeep production during the Defiance rally.

http://www.northwestohio.com/sports/story.aspx?id=817826#.UJCQlxyfQfc

(Reuters) - Chrysler Group LLC Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne reaffirmed on Tuesday that the company is not moving Jeep vehicle production out of the United States to China after it became an issue in the U.S. presidential campaign.

Didn't GM say they weren't moving jobs to China too? - Right before they closed down the plants here in the states?

I'll tell you why these Romnuts can over look his lies is because he relies on their stupidity. Hell, they are just like him, they don't know what the truth is. Mis-fit Mitt has his campaign people telling Mitt .."Tell them anything, they hate Obama so much they won't know the difference." Most of them probably wouldn't know how to vote if they didn't have instructions. They are lucky the law doesn't require testing before being allowed to vote.

Rburn - I agree!

I have 2 theories (in addition to yours)

(1) I have seen Mormon websites that say that in a case like this, they think the end justifies the means . . . ie, Myth Robme & Queen Annie think it is The Will of God they Myth becomes president, so that makes it a non-sin to tell lies, if that's what it takes to get what they want.

(2) They are pandering to "low-information" voters, who have not been paying attention until recently . . . and they believe the RWNJ's and the lies THEY spew, so they only see what Robme is saying NOW, and they are not comparing it to the other things he has been saying all along . . . like this:

"I will never deny a woman the Right to Choose"

"I WILL overturn Roe v. Wade."

"I am 100% pro-life."

"I am in favor of exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother."

"I was a severely conservative governor"

"I was a totally bi-partisan governor & I will 'work across the aisle'" (where is the "aisle" in the White House? LOL)

and they also don't hear, when at about midnight, his campaign walks all the Moderate Myth stuff he said that day, when he goes back to being Severely Conservative."

It is frightening to think people buy this crap.

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O & JOE, 2012, Myth Robme, 1040's (because he lied about his Mass taxes, and he's lying about his Fed taxes!)

and people who believe these lies have NO business voting.

For the life of me, I don't know how anybody could vote for Obama. After the lies about Benghazi and the economic policies that are killing jobs in this country...

Agree, Not-so "Foolish" (LOL!) :-)

A vote for Myth Robme is a vote for Citizen's United, and in favor of the 1% being able to buy elections at the expense of the 99%!

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O & JOE, 2012, Myth Robme, 1040's! (Because he LIED on his Mass taxes, & he LIED on his Fed taxes!)

"DAY" - if you actually want ACCURATE polling data go to:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Nate Silver aggregates ALL the polling data, and he has almost always been correct (even in 2008, when Progressives hated his forecasts)

Nate wants to be CORRECT - he is non-partisan and cares more about his reputation for accuracy than about one candidate or the other.

if you just want someone to tell you what you want to hear, cherry-pick your polls

Meanwhile . . .

President Obama has 73% chance of winning 295+ electoral college votes

He is likely to take OH - 73.3%

He is likely to take PA - 94.2%

He is likely to take VA - 58%

He is likely to take COLO - 54.4%

He is likely to take WISC - 85.7%

ONLY 2 swing states where Robme & Ryin' Lyin ahead: NC & FL

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But, feel free to ignore ACCURATE if that helps you sleep at night.

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O & JOE!

Try again, ElectionDay; Read the writing on the Electoral College wall. Mitt (dog-on-the-car-roof) Romney IS TOAST! Stick a fork in him, he's DONE!

To not understand that is One Foolish Idea!

It should be noted that Silver is even willing to include ridiculous partisan Republican polls like Rasmussen and Gravis in his aggregates.

Egan -

Yet liberals liked Rasmussen in 2008 because they showed Obama winning...

By the way, Rasmussen has a tendency to get it right.

I guess they're only partisan if the poll says Obama is losing, huh?

William - agree! doesn't it make you wonder if he worries about his SOUL at all?? he professes to be a Christian . . . hard to believe.

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YES, even Chrysler said it was a lie.

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and voters should Google "BainPort" to see who is the Out-Sourcer in Chief!

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O & Joe, 2012 . . . Myth Robme, 1040's (he LIED about his Mass taxes; & he's lying about his Fed taxes)

SuperSport; Give up on FAUX NEWS trying to make a MOUNTAIN out of the Benghazi MOLE HILL.

No other REPUTABLE news outlet is going after this "story" because they know there is no THERE, there.

Four people dying was TRAGIC and the confusion created by the American Intelligence failures remind me of the same type of FAILURES that led Geo. DUBYA Bush before he INCORRECTLY invaded IRAQ, a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11 but THOUSANDS of American troops still DIED, NEEDLESSLY, not to mention the TENS of THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis. Trying to make mountain from a mole hill is One Foolish Idea!

Sorry ... the only news source that has not picked up the story is Msnbc or Nbc news....It is a big deal when 4 people are killed and the White House we now know could have stopped it.

Republicans cut funding to the embassies that's why the requests for more security were denied, and the riots were NOT a terrorist act, they were in fact a result of anger toward the anti-muslim video, which may in fact have been released on you tube world wide to instigate such riots and provide cover for a terrorist act.

Have any idea how many die provided Romney gets the seat? He's typical republican and has already shown that by vowing to start as many wars as he can. Talk about senseless loss of life, as this is done to make more government contracts, i.e. make the rich richer.

There's no funding excuse Barney....the State Dept has a budget of $15 billion, if people are in dire threat of dying, which obviously is the case in Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Pakistan, and many other places in the Middle East, possibly with Libya as one of the most dangerous, given the lack of any governmental control...you make sure that a couple million more go to security in Libya. People about to die from gunshot wounds take precedence over other spending.

The State Dept had enough cash to surround the embassy with 1000 agents or soldiers, if they wanted to.

I still find it amazing in this Country . People are willing to put Politics ahead of life and death.People like Barney dont care if people die because of scandel ,cover-up or incompetancy...Just as long as his Politics

do not take a hit. This is not a game Barney...People lost their lives because of this Administrations Incompetance or outright Cover-up!

@ ChestyPuller and mike-Pa,

How old are you two? You do know the President can't write checks don't you? Do you know who does and who gives the orders for those checks? Please learn how the government works before you start voting! Mike, you don't send people into harms way with out a plan and you don't make a plan until you know what is going on. And even then if the risk is to high you do nothing and hope the country that is in charge of protecting your embassy does the right thing. Only a moron would risk my son's life. With access to the internet being so easy these days learning should be as easy as getting on line and it is!

Why don't we elect someone that instead of fighting he runs off to France! There's a great leader.

Confused ...I am Very well aware of how the Government works....The bucks stops with the President end of story... If you have been following the story ...Jake Tapper(abc) and others ..you will see the Administration was well aware in real time what was going on.. Here is news flash for you idiot... The President is responsible for his Administrations decisions...If not ...why do we have a President? .... The Buck stops with the President! Lets see he is responsible or Bin Laden ...but if something else goes wrong ..well he is not responsible for it....People like you need to crawl back in your little hole and go away. The bottom line is people are dead...and the President does not tell the public the truth.....which he has to do. Hey...keep making excuses up for him JUST BECAUSE YOUR A DEMOCRAT!Jack asses like yourself prove my initial statement. By the way ..What does this have to do with Romney? going to France? I guess you can prove to me where Obama was in the Military?