VIDEO: First Read Minute: Tightened race, but Obama clings to edge in OH, WI
While the East Coast begins to clean up the damage from Hurricane Sandy, Mitt Romney holds a relief event in battleground state Ohio and former President Clinton campaigns for President Obama in Minnesota where polls are tightening.
Electoral College Model Predicts Romney Will Win Even Bigger Than Previously Thought in 2012
University of Colorado Professors Ken Bickers and Michael Berry and their highly-accurate Electoral College prediction model. As you may recall, Bickers and Berry, using their metrics, are able to retroactively predict every presidential win since 1980.
Their 2012 model made headlines two months ago because, despite polling, it found that Republican presidential candidate Romney would win 320 Electoral Votes, stealing the White House away from President Barack Obama. Now, an updated version of their study has come to the same conclusion — but it intensifies the numbers behind a predicted Romney win.
Despite the fact that polls still show a dead-heat race (Obama is currently at 48.2 percent, with Romney capturing 47.3 percent of likely voters in the most recent Real Clear Politics average), an updated election model shows an even larger gap between the Electoral College votes that Romney and Obama are projected to win. According to Bickers and Berry, the Republican challenger is projected to take 330 of the 558 votes, while Obama is expected to capture only 208 of them.
Romney will carry New Mexico, North Carolina, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. On the flip side, Obama will take Michigan and Nevada.
While many election forecast models are based on the popular vote, the model developed by Bickers and Berry is based on the Electoral College and is the only one of its type to include more than one state-level measure of economic conditions. They included economic data from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
nah nah nah nah......nah nah nah nah....hey hey hey.....GOODBYE!!!!
Is there any reason in particular you guys at First Read never discuss Nate Silver predictions?
because he works for the NYTimes? Although this site is aggregated much like other websites (Huffington Post, et al), it is usually not standard operating procedure to give credit to the originator. Why get your news second hand when you can go to the source?
Chuck Todd is in charge of reporting in politics, and if he were to refer to Nate Silver it would shoot all of his theories through the foot. I believe in Nate.
Obama has the edge in Ohio and Wisconsin, and nothing he can do can prevent this without voter intimidation at the polls. Auto workers will not be suckered in by Romney's lying ads.
Wow, ticked off sure is a prolific writer. Do ya suppose he wrote that post all by his little old self?
The authors also provided caveats. Their model had an average error rate of five states and 28 Electoral College votes. Factors they said may affect their prediction include the timeframe of the economic data used in the study and that states very close to a 50-50 split may fall in an unexpected direction due to factors not included in the model.
Sounds like they are afraid to stand behind their own prediction model. Suddenly, they are concerned with influences such as consumer confidence and a whole host of other factors that may be unique to this election. Golly shucks, perhaps they should have walked the modeling all the way back to the Great Depression, that period of time that we most closely match. Now that would be an interesting study.
Of course, if this election weren't close, the news outlets wouldn't have as much consumers. Touting the race as close whips up fervor, and also allows the networks to get as much for their advertising slots as possible on election night. What is the truth? We will all know in a week (or more, depending on FL).
Any Romney "relief" event is plainly a campaign event.
My property outside of Philly is undamaged, though I am taking in a couple of friends of the family and their kids who were flooded out and lost power. I suggest that people call around and see who needs help. It is still raining buckets here.
Excellent article on why NATIONAL POLLS are meaningless at this stage:
At this stage in the election, like any sufficiently close election, the fate of the candidates rests with fewer than a half-dozen states. The continuing snapshots of national polls are useful for pollsters and academics, who are interested in things like expected vote share or the probability of victory in the national popular vote. Most stakeholders care only about the likelihood of victory in the Electoral College, and a national poll is not very useful at this point.
This is why most prognosticators consider Obama to have a far higher chance of victory than the national polls would suggest. The Signal has Obama at a 65 percent chance of victory, while Nate Silvergives him a 75 percent chance against Romney. A small, demented chorus of observers has recentlydinged Silver for this conclusion, citing various gut feelings to the contrary.
Sources: Betfair, Intrade, IEM, HuffPost's Pollster and RealClearPolitics
Any way you slice it, Obama is leading in states that account for well over 270 electoral votes. As we've said a milliontimesbefore, Obama needs only Ohio, Florida or Virginia to prevent Romney from reaching 270 electoral votes in most scenarios. Romney needs all three.
Romney maintains a slight lead in aggregations of many polls. HuffPost's Pollster listed six new polls on Monday, and Obama led in only one. Romney led in three of these, and two were are tied. Pollster, which has a very transparent method of aggregation, combines all recent polls and has Romney up 47.4 to 47.2. RealClearPolitics, which aggregates polls with a completely opaque method, has Romney up 47.6 to 46.7.
If you are a poll junkie and you need your latest fix, I suggest following the latest polls in Florida,Virginia and Ohio. If you are still obsessing over national polls, I suggest you brush up on the Constitution. Just in case, here's a link. It's free.
Follow the state-by-state and overall presidential predictions in real time with PredictWise.com.
David Rothschild has a Ph.D. in applied economics from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. Follow him on Twitter @DavMicRot.
blackcatwhitecat - Ask me on December 1st and I can "retroactively" predict the outcome of the election with 100% accuracy too! What an idiotic post. Who CAN'T retroactively "predict" the outcome of the election? Oh wait, that was a Repubican posting - makes all the sense in the world now!
tmv- let's see, hmmm, because Nate IS the most accurate - and not retroactively?
Everyone is arguing about conflicting poll numbers and models...yet they are clearly missing the most accurate poll. This election isn't going to come down to turnout...it's not going to come down to who carries independents either.
It's going to come down to who wins this weekend's game between the Washington Redskins and the Carolina Panthers. Romney will be wearing his Cam Newton jersey and Obama will sport the RGIII jersey!! ;-)
Fun trivia...since 1940, the "Redskins rule" has correctly predicted the popular vote winner in every election except for one...which one?
(For those that don't know...the Redskins rule states that if the Redskins win their last home game before the election, the incumbent party will win the popular vote. IF they lose, the out of power party wins).
The wind is no longer behind MYTH on Benghazi-Gate since Hurricane Sandy. Now MYTH is running around on his FAKE Romney & Ryan campaigning & bashing President Obama calling it a"storm relief" rally. BTW: this rally is another MYTH flip flop.
President Obama will stay in Washington on Wednesday, the White House says, and cancel his two campaign events in Ohio.
Unlike what MYTH and the HACKS over @ Radio Rwanda aka home of the GOP/TEA BANGER HEADQUARTERS say-- When a natural disaster occurs and a president steps up to the plate--he isn't "acting presidential." He's a PRESIDENT doing his job!!!
MYTH has flipped once again and wants to send FEMA to cash strapped states. MYTH eventually wants to privatize FEMA!!!
Romneys concern for the hurricane victims is obvious as he plans to visit there on Thursday. he understands governance as well as economics. His leadership is what will lead us back to wealth prosperity and a standard of living that we can all benefit from.
The horrible mistake of 2008 can only be described as a failed social experiment. Historic doesn't equate with success. Arranging a few picnics in Chicago as a community organizer and writing a couple books, ABOUT HIMSELF, obviously didn't qualify Barrack Hussein for the monumental task of leadership we need.
It's time to evict the trespasser in our White House and replace him with a man who believes in American exceptionalism for all. Barrack Husseins promotion of mediocrity will never restore our Republic to its intended greatness.
Feisty - where do the Republicans dig up people like Ticked Off. There must be a test they take and, if you score extremely low, they dub you a Republican. There can be no other answer! LMAO "Retroactively" predicting anything!!!!! Pretty sure I can do that with 100% accuracy.
Its time for all you Romney supporters to put your money where your mouth is. Bookies are giving odds Obama will win-why not bet your house on Romney. Its a win win for you.
SOTB thats what they keep saying lock step. its wrong and disingenious but what do you expect with Feisty at the helm directing the talking points. Where's jimespa whatever his name is. What a joke you lefties are.
Hey B White, what no Racism today? Come on libbies, the meme yesterday was everyone but liberals are racists and Nazis. Perhaps you guys should just stay in the DDI and good game eachother all day. this way reality wont get in the way of your delusions
Feisty or Frank, Did we ever have a natural disaster this close to an election? I evacuated a barrier island here in N.J. Last I heard in could be at least 10 before we are allowed to return. Power outages could last for a week or more. My relatives in N.Y have no power or phone. How do you have elections under these circumstances?
Just because your brain is not equipped to understand a scientific model that uses economic data doesn't mean it's wrong.
Sorry Ticked...
But that is where you are wrong. In the libby world... the simple fact that they are unable to understand something not only makes it instantly wrong in their eyes... but it also makes the person that said it evil, stupid, a racist AND a woman-hater!
Its time for all you Romney supporters to put your money where your mouth is. Bookies are giving odds Obama will win-why not bet your house on Romney. Its a win win for you.
Hey B White...
I might ask you to do the same by betting YOUR house on Obummer to win...
OH... Wait... you don't have a house cuz you are living on gub'mnt assistance ain't yah!
Just because your brain is not equipped to understand a scientific model...IT'S A NEW MODEL AND IT CORRECTLY, ALTHOUGH RETROACTIVELY, PREDICTED THE OUTCOME OF THE LAST 8 ELECTIONS
This is getting hysterical. The model has NEVER 'accurately predicted' an election. I'll tell you what has accurately predicted an election - my Magic 8 Ball, it predicted Obama would win the 2008 election. Alas, it failed me on 2010 - I failed to replace the black inky fluid with tea before asking for the prediction. Good news is, so far, my Magic 8 Ball has more accuracy than the Ticked Off model.
but it also makes the person that said it evil, stupid, a racist AND a woman-hater!
Gosh SOB, you must find it difficult to be such an evil, stupid, racist, woman-hater every day of your life. Try smelling a rose, it might change your disposition.
Undoubtedly Romney has the most to gain or loose with the storm. Romney's faith has kept him a man of action with perhaps THOUSANDS of people who are in tough times. He has real world experience in helping physically, financially, and spiritually, those who are hurting.
Time for you to stand up and be counted Mr. Romney. Time for this nation see who you really are, and where the truth in your soul is. I believe you are a man of high moral character, and I believe you will take care of those less fortunate (read the book of Matthew).
I believe Mr. Romney should (just this one time) let the world see the light of his good deeds and not hide them under a basket. The man is too good a human being to be drug through the mud like so many have done. And for those of you (FR, Bev, Ron, etc...) who don't believe it, this man's whole life has been in service to others. We have that as a matter of record. Do you know anything about BHO's past that would indicate he could possibly stand on the same stage as Romney in this regard?
Gosh SOB, you must find it difficult to be such an evil, stupid, racist, woman-hater every day of your life. Try smelling a rose, it might change your disposition.
Time for you to stand up and be counted Mr. Romney. Time for this nation see who you really are, and where the truth in your soul is.
Oh great, Sandy brings out yet another new Romney, we'll call him hurricane Romney. That's all we need is another new Romney just before election day. As if the 15 Romney's we have already seen weren't enough.
First Read Minute: Tightened race, but Obama clings to .....
The only thing he's going to be cling to pretty soon is his luggage come January 20th.
He'll probably smile at Romneys inauguration though. In his heart, he will know that at least he was the first black president, and unlike his constituents, knows he will never have to live like we all do.
I'm Surprised that the Resident Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM) are'nt promoting Chuck Todd's explanation of a socalled Oil Refinery somewhere around DC. Which in Fact is & always has been a Sewage Treatment Plant.
But as usual, with Chuck Todd's brownnoseing every GOP talking point, he could'nt Smell the $hit, that was permeating from the aformentioned Treatment Plant !
I'm also surprised that Chuck Todd's Head has'nt Exploded before our eyes on national TV, with his desire to Dominate Poltical News to the point of Promoting Lies, that he knows are LIES!
Where is 1st Reads Thread Screaming " President Obama Fails in attempt to Stop Sandy, 33(and counting)Dead" ? I have faith in this bunch to Promote such a thread sometime today!
Stay Tuned!
I see the Spankster is still on the BlackGold coming from those San Diego tunnels! Stand Down, Stand Down !
I wouldn't put much faith in that "edge" in Ohio, for two reasons-
Two of the polls contributing to that edge- CNN and PPP- have methodology problems, meaning that those four point leads, which leaves them within the margin of error, need to be discounted- or, at a minimum, read as "tied".
Second, all the polling is confounded by the number of people who claim to have already voted- the official numbers do not support the polling numbers, so should, actually, be weighted down.
As to Marist- their problems are legendary.
Ohio is tight, but I firmly believe Romney is actually the one with the edge there.
What is it that make up the brains of an average republican. He or she will welcome from the same source a positive trend but incapable of accepting even if the same methodology was used in both instances if it goes the other way. A liberal will accept the results regardless. All liberals accepted that Romney won the first debate but republicans are yet to accept that Obama trounced Romney in two subsequent debates. I am amazed that Romney lies are being played as him navigating to the middle when in actual sense it is a case of flip flopping, etch -a- sketch. The republicans will never let a liberal get away with something like it. The only flip that Kerry did against Bush jr. was " l voted for it before l voted against it" meaning the Iraqi invasion by Bush jr. All hell broke loose. They followed Kerry every where with play cards showcasing, flip flop. Even though l don't believe some of the polls, l liken Rasmussen polls with a grain of salt as far as reality matters so are many other polls especially fox and all that it stood for. These two especially are patented Obama haters. How on earth would they not skewer the polls to show negativity towards him? All others have their own bias but on the whole the best poll will be the one on Nov. 6th. After that date, there will be no doubt what the people said, hopefully the Republicans will not challenge Obama trouncing lying Mitt. Romney as usual.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[3]extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[4] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[5] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."
Seems a tad passive-aggressive, but any port in a storm.
Interesting definition. Hmmm, looking at your posts even just here, I'd say an argument could be made that some might just be somewhat tangential or off topic.
When I came back, I actually figured he was you with a new screenname. Lots of similarity in the posting style. Always on the verge of getting personal. Never really adds any salient analysis. Just makes snarky comments, etc.
Michael......good to see you here. One can only hope it is for more than a week and that he takes a few others with him. It'll help clean up this board some.
In Canada's last election the polls had the Province of Quebec completely wrong. The last place party actually came first with an overwhelming majority and one of that party's candidates won with the largest majority while spending the entire time in Vegas during the campaign.
Im trying to find quatrain that these predicitions fall under? let me look into my pool of water or i can just tap edgar case with the ouija board and maybe he can tell me?
dammit i knew i mispelled Edgars last name. i also mispelled desperate earlier. i was called out on it and then the same clown mispelled pedestrian. Good thing i am not for correcting mispellings. although there are exceptions to every rule. Im with jean, my hindsight is 20/15. always
Hey It was a brilliant friggin' post...any idiot can spell ( and I have examples galore if you like)
Anything that raises the level of discourse above_____SUCKS (apologies to the guy who actually posts that every day and gets 10 votes) is not only welcome but bordering on miraculous...
But if we don't type these things there is nothing else to type (because no one here seems interested in actually discussing REAL issues) and therefore there is no reason for FR to exist.
In difficult times like this the nation has a President, and not a 'boss.' The American People has a President working in the Oval Office, and not a "Bully In The Corporate Board Room." The nation has a President who, means what he says, and says what he means at all times. The nation has a President that communicates well with everyone, and has clear thinking on all issues. Our nation does not need a "Ill-Tempered Bully" making hasty decisions. The nation does not need a GOP/RNC "Poltical Fip-Flopper." This will just cause mistrust, confusion, and incompetence. FEMA being put into the hands of corporations like Bain Capital is just "Economically Evil," not realistic at all. Giving all relief tasks to the individual states will not work, and this was clearly learned already from US History. This was the era of the "Confederation OF States" that caused mistrust, and mass confusion between the states. Remember how this worked America? Read, research, and think very carefully of how the idea of a "Confederation Of States" failed. This is exactly what the GOP/RNC wants to do. Again! Let us not repeat history. Again!
Alright poll junkies.....did you read what Don't Carry It All posted? Polls shmolls....so many of you R&R "fans" have President Obama ousted out of office already....wait until election day....then you can all put your money where your big mouths are!!!
Anyone hear the GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief" said in Ohio this morning? He is still out there putting politics over the people, and is putting on the biggest "Crazy Conseervative Clown Show" in US Poltical History. Listen very closely to his politically "Wrenching Words." Listen to how the GOP/RNC "Pathological Liar and Chief" is using his words?
First Read will be scrambling the day before the election to put in its prediction of a Romney victory...that way it can brag for the next 4 years about how accurate NBC polling is...
How accurate is that NBC "Obama +9 in Virginia" poll looking ?
The final Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Election 2008 showed Barack Obama leading John McCain 52% to 46%. We are pleased to report that those figures precisely matched the actual election returns.
Now that personal computers are available to almost anyone why are conservatives not any better informed than they were decades ago? They accept the same lies year after year and don't ever seem to come out ot their envelopes. One comment was that most republicans are followers and need to have simple solutions from their leaders and this does explain alot about them. They don't do well at thinking for themselves and this certainly seems to be true of conservative women.
This is 2012, and not 2008, obama is a exposed fraud, all of the voters who swallowed obama's bullsh*t have FOUND out that all it was and still is a bunch of BULLSH*T. No one organisation or news media or anyone in the government vetted obama, (huge mistake) but fortunately and unknowingly obama showed himself to be the Chicago thug that he is. Admittedly obama has a smooth line of (there goes that word again)BULLSH*T . But as every one knows the BULLSH*T will get you in the door then it's up to you to show that you can handle the job. That's where obama showed his true colors, he is a radical racist, a Marxist follower, a Muslim brotherhood sympathizer, very un American and very inexperienced. He (obama) has the most corrupt bunch of a combination of communists, bent liberals, ideologs who lie cheat and prostitute them selves for their own beliefs, and do not support any thing that resembles the American way. So any one who thinks obama is doing well should take the pulse of the voter with out the false representation of the leftist media. Obama is losing big time no matter what he tries to do to turn the tide.
President Barack Obama will win Ohio and the Presidency, and you can take that to the bank!
I will agree with dangerfield that no one really knows. However we know were the momentum is still running and that is with Romney. We also know that this is not 2008.
My prediction is Romney wins the popular vote by 4 to 5% and takes the Electoral by 5 to 10 points. I will tell you what I Blatina will bet. If Romney wins I will post only 5 times after that win, and if he looses I will never again come to FR and read the stupidity that I see form only some of the left wackos here. You know who you are.
The Dems are so worried about Wisconsin,(they thought it was a sure thing)that the are sending Crazy Joe there to drum up support. This ought to be good! Maybe he can talk about the 500 trillion in Bush tax cuts for the rich again!
My condolences and prayers for all who have been impacted by Sandy and all natural disasters around the world. Amen.
What a Skateboard ride! Riding the High Surfs! Wooooooo! Wow!
Vote Obama and Biden! They pray and Obama also loves the waves of the Ocean. Naturalists and Environmentalists and all who care. Obama is and has been there.
Dear Friends:
I warned of the Earth Quake in Italy a few days ago. Maybe too early, but I did warn of it and the one in Los Angeles, CA. I now have also told you that there is usually a hit in similar latitude or horizontal direction but East and or West. Now I am telling you with these so close and the Sandy hurricane as well as the Volcano of Hawaii, some major, major occurrence will happen or natural disaster, different than we have seen or a hand full of actions. Expect the late season tornadoes. I have been attacked over my speaking out for the actions of environmental threats by Asians and Mormons. So it is difficult for me to understand what the profound or God has warning to us.
A book that I recommend for this day is The Deep The Extraordinary Creatures of the Abyss. by Claire Nouvian. There is no infinite novices of the Earth or the Ocean. However there are extraordinary men and woman who made their life so full of this exploration. This book touches on this as well as colorful, extraordinary photos of things never seen by those who have not also been there. The photos so vivid one can see the image of the camera and men captured in the blue eyes of the creatures of the ocean in some photos. It also shares the unusual temperatures of caverns and depths in the deep abyss of the Oceans. Public please, are these in all hemispheres and Gulfs? What is the farthest northerly Gulf of the USA? Of the World? China can threaten the masses of herds and schools of fish that swarm on Earth. Will these magnificent plants and creatures be taken to other planets. What is the hottest temperature of water streams from the core of Earth? Protection against these environmentally endangered species fall upon all of us on Earth and in the USA. Learning of the impeding weather and it relates Biblical and Learning is not one that should be stopped or horded nor learning in any way on the basis of prejudice.
Trump making comments and troubled waters during this election about the private and personal sex life and marriage of Barrack and Michelle Obama is unethical, disrespectful and prejudice.
This Administration has done more for to save the auto industry and ecology and jobs for this nation than most industries and prior Administrations.
Books such as I have mentioned above are being damaged from Libraries in the USA. I know not if this is occurring in other nations or cities as mine, but I suspect it is because these are speaking out about environmental threats of nations. Earth is our home at this time and mankind must protect this and each of their nations. This Obama and Biden have done.
Halloween is soon! Children of all ages! read a good science book! Dress up like one of the deep creatures of the dark and mysterious Abyss. The Ocean!
Popping eyes that bug out, fins and tentacles that suck on to you like the Octopus and tentacles of the other sea monsters. How fun! Have a Halloween party or Fall Harvest Festival Party and have a surprise. In Folsom Open Market in the Palladio Shopping center on the weekends, I met a woman that had real hallowed out brilliant and unusual blue large Emu eggs. She has one Emu that she takes to schools and private parties or birthday parties. Wow something like this for your children and Adults! What a party! Have a reading and bring books of the Ocean to an Environmental experience and learning at a party. Wow! A Halloween party! That has food of the season and teaches how they grow, when and where and including the fish migration patterns of the season as well. What a party! A Whale of a party!
The deep Abyss is not prejudice! Let not the next generation live with the types of Prejudice that Whoopi Goldberg, Barrack and Michelle Obama and myself have experienced, nor all of the people that are not Mormons. Vote Democratic! Vote Obama and Biden. For the future! Amen.
Gamblers staying in the casino! Now that it is over come out and help clean up!
FEMA at work for you! Earth Quake again should happen can the weather people and you predict where it will come from out of the Earths fault lines? Hot water from the deep all kinds of pressure!
Storms this season is not quite over.
Children of all ages check the glossary of books! Spelling bees! You could win as well as understanding.
God Bless! Amen.
My Heart and Prayers go out for all who have lost their lives and those who are injured or family members impacted. May God Bless you in your sorrow and fear. Amen.
Living here on the NC coast tropical storms/hurricanes are almost an annual occurance. Their not a lot of fun, but the media definetly plays it up BIG TIME!! Having watched the HUGE influx of yellow lisence plates (and the obnoxious mouths to go with them) for the last ten yrs. or so, we are not too fond of the yankee infiltration that has occured here. We call the retirees 'halfbackers' because they retire to Fla. realize its too hot, and only move half back. Sucks for us! We just call the rest obnoxious 'damn yankees'! That being said, "YOU'SE GUYS" have fu@&'in fun with that wata' up there!! Couldnt have happened in a betta place!! okay Im gonna "get the f@#k outta heeea!! Enjoy yankees, heee!!
What actual voting blocks can the Romneyettes claim they own? Women voters? Latinos? Blacks? The intelligent, informed voter? The working/middle-class? NONE of the aforementioned is the correct response. The elderly? I doubt they will vote for a man who promises to vocuherize their hard-fought-for benefits.
So who can the Romneyettes latch onto as their voting block? The racist and the haters; that's who! Definitely America's cowards and the uber stupid who can't read a bubble-gum wrapper! These idiots from the back woods of this country's tobacco-spitting, moonshine swilling, pot-bellied, broken down truck driving, one tooth-having, suspender-wearing, gun-loving, hog-calling, cousin screwing, bathtub beer making and drinking, Jefferson Davis holdover; Anglo ass-holes from two centuries ago! "I'll abort yo' ass woman...somebody hand me a clothes-hanger damn it!"
We cannot afford a Romney victory because he will HURT America and perhaps even destroy it! How can ANY informed voter vote for this LIAR and tax cheat? Romney will RAPE America and set us back to the pre-stone age when men dragged women by the hair and ate dinosaur meat for lunch. The GOP at large will DAMAGE this nation beyond repair because they believe that the poor should stay poor so they will be forced to serve THEM! They like their women-folk barefoot, pregnant, and chained to the kitchen stove; and without personal resources. The want their nation back alright; they want it back to the days when the old-boys ruled and hung blacks from trees for even looking at a white woman. Listen to the way they talk and you will hear it their voices.
Forward...not backward; MUST BE THIS NATION'S RALLYING CRY! WE REFUSE TO GO BACKWARD!!!
Wow, Obama cares? Is that why when Virginia had 29 tornadoes, killing 10 people and over 1200 houses destroyed or damaged, FEMA denied help to Virginia?
That is the real reason why Romney believes the state should decide on what FEMA does, then FEMA cannot and will not penalize a state that is mostly Republican and has a Republican governor.
May 8, 2011
Jeff Caldwell Press Secretary (804) 786-2211
Bob Spieldenner Virginia Department of Emergency Management (804) 897-6510 www.vaemergency.gov
FEMA Denies Federal Disaster Assistance for Virginia Tornado Damage – Governor McDonnell considers appealing decision –
The Federal Emergency Management Agency has denied Virginia's request for federal disaster assistance for those affected by the April tornadoes.
Governor Bob McDonnell requested federal disaster assistance for the counties of Halifax, Pulaski and Washington. Also, the governor requested FEMA include April 8-28 as one incident period so other localities, such as Gloucester and Middlesex, could be added later.
Virginia was struck by 29 tornadoes in April, killing ten and destroying an estimated 212 homes and damaging 1,050.
"We are very disappointed that FEMA did not grant disaster assistance for Virginians still working to recover from the tornadoes," said Governor McDonnell. "We are examining the possibility of appealing the decision, but in the mean time, state resources will continue to support the efforts of local governments and volunteer organizations that are helping our citizens recover.
"I want to thank local elected officials, state legislators and especially our congressional members for their strong, unwavering, bipartisan support of our request," he added.
In addition, FEMA denied Virginia's request for the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program, which provides funds for government projects that help reduce disaster risks by protecting homes and businesses against future damage.
OBAMA CARES ABOUT HIMSELF AND WHAT HE CAN TAKE FROM US CITIZENS. OBAMA CARED SO MUCH FOR AMBASSADOR STEVENS THAT HE HAD A 4 PERSON SECURITY DETAIL AND HIS PAL FROM CHICAGO, VALERIE JARRETT HAD A 6 PERSON SECURITY DETAIL IN MARTHA'S VINEYARD/CAPE COD.
Can someone tell me where the first ladies are involved in the east coast crisis? Where are Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden? Do you really think Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Gore, Mrs. Bush, Mrs. Cheney would have been nowhere to be found in a crisis such as the east coast? Rosalyn Carter? We have had some involved, caring first ladies who gave all they could to any crisis.
You argue that Mrs Bush showed up BUT what did she in fact actually do to give aid or relief? I believe that answer would be...NOTHING; NOT A DAMN THING! Gov. Christie seems to feel quite differently than you on this very important issue Will! Hmmm???
Is there any reason in particular you guys at First Read never discuss Nate Silver predictions?
If I'm not mistaken, Nate had been more accurate over the last 4 years than any other "polling" firm out there!
Just curious why he has not been included your analysis?
Electoral College Model Predicts Romney Will Win Even Bigger Than Previously Thought in 2012
University of Colorado Professors Ken Bickers and Michael Berry and their highly-accurate Electoral College prediction model. As you may recall, Bickers and Berry, using their metrics, are able to retroactively predict every presidential win since 1980.
Their 2012 model made headlines two months ago because, despite polling, it found that Republican presidential candidate Romney would win 320 Electoral Votes, stealing the White House away from President Barack Obama. Now, an updated version of their study has come to the same conclusion — but it intensifies the numbers behind a predicted Romney win.
Despite the fact that polls still show a dead-heat race (Obama is currently at 48.2 percent, with Romney capturing 47.3 percent of likely voters in the most recent Real Clear Politics average), an updated election model shows an even larger gap between the Electoral College votes that Romney and Obama are projected to win. According to Bickers and Berry, the Republican challenger is projected to take 330 of the 558 votes, while Obama is expected to capture only 208 of them.
Romney will carry New Mexico, North Carolina, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida. On the flip side, Obama will take Michigan and Nevada.
While many election forecast models are based on the popular vote, the model developed by Bickers and Berry is based on the Electoral College and is the only one of its type to include more than one state-level measure of economic conditions. They included economic data from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
nah nah nah nah......nah nah nah nah....hey hey hey.....GOODBYE!!!!
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because he works for the NYTimes? Although this site is aggregated much like other websites (Huffington Post, et al), it is usually not standard operating procedure to give credit to the originator. Why get your news second hand when you can go to the source?
Ticked off in Ohio
a better track record can be found here.
election.princeton.edu/2008/11/11/post-election-evaluation-part-2/
blackcatwhitecat,
Really cant get much better than 100% accurate for EVERY election since and including 1980.
So, I'm gonna go with the boys from Colorado.
Chuck Todd is in charge of reporting in politics, and if he were to refer to Nate Silver it would shoot all of his theories through the foot. I believe in Nate.
Obama has the edge in Ohio and Wisconsin, and nothing he can do can prevent this without voter intimidation at the polls. Auto workers will not be suckered in by Romney's lying ads.
Obama/Biden 2012
Wow, ticked off sure is a prolific writer. Do ya suppose he wrote that post all by his little old self?
Sounds like they are afraid to stand behind their own prediction model. Suddenly, they are concerned with influences such as consumer confidence and a whole host of other factors that may be unique to this election. Golly shucks, perhaps they should have walked the modeling all the way back to the Great Depression, that period of time that we most closely match. Now that would be an interesting study.
Ticked off in Ohio
meet you at the finish line
reddev...
Nonetheless....THEY HAVE A 100% RECORD!
BYE BYE OBAMA!!!!
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Of course, if this election weren't close, the news outlets wouldn't have as much consumers. Touting the race as close whips up fervor, and also allows the networks to get as much for their advertising slots as possible on election night. What is the truth? We will all know in a week (or more, depending on FL).
Ticked off in Ohio
Retroactively accurate? Is that like Lot's wife looking backwards to predict she will turn to a pillar of salt?
Any Romney "relief" event is plainly a campaign event.
My property outside of Philly is undamaged, though I am taking in a couple of friends of the family and their kids who were flooded out and lost power. I suggest that people call around and see who needs help. It is still raining buckets here.
I hope Hurricane Sandy hasn't done much damage to you and yours Amy. Stay safe
Excellent article on why NATIONAL POLLS are meaningless at this stage:
Gallup has projected voter turnout at R +3.
Oh My my libbie friends this is going to be ugly.
I've had Mitt 53% - O 47% for several months, but now, that's going to have to be revised.
O and I know you have all seen the fantastic news that Mitt is leading in early votes.
Again - this is going to be Carter-like ugly for poor O.
Oh and speaking of O - just who did give that stand down order in Benghazi, Mr. President?
What's that, you know, but that person is just too big to fit under the bus?
Well, that's a shame, but thanks for helping to ensure this will be a blow out.
Ticked off in Ohio
Based on a retroactive metric? lol..thanks for the laugh
Nate doesn't really do polling. He analyses the other polls, just as the First Read team does. Why would FT give creedence to their "competition?"
blackcatwhitecat - Ask me on December 1st and I can "retroactively" predict the outcome of the election with 100% accuracy too! What an idiotic post. Who CAN'T retroactively "predict" the outcome of the election? Oh wait, that was a Repubican posting - makes all the sense in the world now!
tmv- let's see, hmmm, because Nate IS the most accurate - and not retroactively?
Obama/Biden 2012
Not even close! lol
Why do they give it to everyone else?
YES, IT'S A NEW MODEL AND IT CORRECTLY, ALTHOUGH RETROACTIVELY, PREDICTED THE OUTCOME OF THE LAST 8 ELECTIONS
The difference in this model is the type of data used for the predictions.
Seems everyone has their favorite POLL to watch.
It will be interesting with the storm, what delays will happen, what party will claim fraud, etc...
Everyone is arguing about conflicting poll numbers and models...yet they are clearly missing the most accurate poll. This election isn't going to come down to turnout...it's not going to come down to who carries independents either.
It's going to come down to who wins this weekend's game between the Washington Redskins and the Carolina Panthers. Romney will be wearing his Cam Newton jersey and Obama will sport the RGIII jersey!! ;-)
Fun trivia...since 1940, the "Redskins rule" has correctly predicted the popular vote winner in every election except for one...which one?
(For those that don't know...the Redskins rule states that if the Redskins win their last home game before the election, the incumbent party will win the popular vote. IF they lose, the out of power party wins).
Ticked off in Ohio
The wind is no longer behind MYTH on Benghazi-Gate since Hurricane Sandy. Now MYTH is running around on his FAKE Romney & Ryan campaigning & bashing President Obama calling it a"storm relief" rally. BTW: this rally is another MYTH flip flop.
President Obama will stay in Washington on Wednesday, the White House says, and cancel his two campaign events in Ohio.
Unlike what MYTH and the HACKS over @ Radio Rwanda aka home of the GOP/TEA BANGER HEADQUARTERS say-- When a natural disaster occurs and a president steps up to the plate--he isn't "acting presidential." He's a PRESIDENT doing his job!!!
MYTH has flipped once again and wants to send FEMA to cash strapped states. MYTH eventually wants to privatize FEMA!!!
Here is MYTH's real agenda on FEMA>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6ZVYMJCcAA1jFd.jpg:large
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13281985-romney-on-fema-disaster-relief-get-rid-of-it
Also, MYTH never knew what he was talking about on Foreign Policy.
This is too funny!
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6UfQbHCcAAxL8y.jpg
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
As Barrack Hussein clings, Romney leads.
Romneys concern for the hurricane victims is obvious as he plans to visit there on Thursday. he understands governance as well as economics. His leadership is what will lead us back to wealth prosperity and a standard of living that we can all benefit from.
The horrible mistake of 2008 can only be described as a failed social experiment. Historic doesn't equate with success. Arranging a few picnics in Chicago as a community organizer and writing a couple books, ABOUT HIMSELF, obviously didn't qualify Barrack Hussein for the monumental task of leadership we need.
It's time to evict the trespasser in our White House and replace him with a man who believes in American exceptionalism for all. Barrack Husseins promotion of mediocrity will never restore our Republic to its intended greatness.
ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©
NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.
"Retroactively Predicted"???
What the hell does that even mean? That sounds like me saying I retroactively predicted that the Giants would sweep the Tigers in the World Series.
good times to ensue. it will depend on who wins though.
Feisty - where do the Republicans dig up people like Ticked Off. There must be a test they take and, if you score extremely low, they dub you a Republican. There can be no other answer! LMAO "Retroactively" predicting anything!!!!! Pretty sure I can do that with 100% accuracy.
Obama/Biden 2012
Just because your brain is not equipped to understand a scientific model that uses economic data doesn't mean it's wrong.
Its time for all you Romney supporters to put your money where your mouth is. Bookies are giving odds Obama will win-why not bet your house on Romney. Its a win win for you.
And let me guess...
Any Obama "relief" event is plainly a kind-hearted gesture from a true humanitarian!
LOL!
What a dolt you are!
:OP
Ticked off - the fact that you are putting so much stock in the model would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.
Obama/Biden 2012
SOTB thats what they keep saying lock step. its wrong and disingenious but what do you expect with Feisty at the helm directing the talking points. Where's jimespa whatever his name is. What a joke you lefties are.
Hey B White, what no Racism today? Come on libbies, the meme yesterday was everyone but liberals are racists and Nazis. Perhaps you guys should just stay in the DDI and good game eachother all day. this way reality wont get in the way of your delusions
Feisty or Frank, Did we ever have a natural disaster this close to an election? I evacuated a barrier island here in N.J. Last I heard in could be at least 10 before we are allowed to return. Power outages could last for a week or more. My relatives in N.Y have no power or phone. How do you have elections under these circumstances?
Sorry Ticked...
But that is where you are wrong. In the libby world... the simple fact that they are unable to understand something not only makes it instantly wrong in their eyes... but it also makes the person that said it evil, stupid, a racist AND a woman-hater!
;O)
Hey B White...
I might ask you to do the same by betting YOUR house on Obummer to win...
OH... Wait... you don't have a house cuz you are living on gub'mnt assistance ain't yah!
LOSER!
:OP
This is getting hysterical. The model has NEVER 'accurately predicted' an election. I'll tell you what has accurately predicted an election - my Magic 8 Ball, it predicted Obama would win the 2008 election. Alas, it failed me on 2010 - I failed to replace the black inky fluid with tea before asking for the prediction. Good news is, so far, my Magic 8 Ball has more accuracy than the Ticked Off model.
Gosh SOB, you must find it difficult to be such an evil, stupid, racist, woman-hater every day of your life. Try smelling a rose, it might change your disposition.
Undoubtedly Romney has the most to gain or loose with the storm. Romney's faith has kept him a man of action with perhaps THOUSANDS of people who are in tough times. He has real world experience in helping physically, financially, and spiritually, those who are hurting.
Time for you to stand up and be counted Mr. Romney. Time for this nation see who you really are, and where the truth in your soul is. I believe you are a man of high moral character, and I believe you will take care of those less fortunate (read the book of Matthew).
I believe Mr. Romney should (just this one time) let the world see the light of his good deeds and not hide them under a basket. The man is too good a human being to be drug through the mud like so many have done. And for those of you (FR, Bev, Ron, etc...) who don't believe it, this man's whole life has been in service to others. We have that as a matter of record. Do you know anything about BHO's past that would indicate he could possibly stand on the same stage as Romney in this regard?
Me and my whole State are voting for President Obama! Yahooooo!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
RedDevPS
GEE! Thanks for your concern, RedDev...
But hey... I just calls 'em like I see's 'em!
:OP
Oh great, Sandy brings out yet another new Romney, we'll call him hurricane Romney. That's all we need is another new Romney just before election day. As if the 15 Romney's we have already seen weren't enough.
I'll take your word for it - but I have to say, those are some funky rose colored lens you use to view the world.
The only thing he's going to be cling to pretty soon is his luggage come January 20th.
He'll probably smile at Romneys inauguration though. In his heart, he will know that at least he was the first black president, and unlike his constituents, knows he will never have to live like we all do.
Romney collects 10 endorsements to Obama's 1
October 25, 2012 @ 12:05 AM
By the West Virginia Press Association
The poor little sheeplole have lost the way---OhaaaaBahaaMaaa...chug the KOOLaid....Salud!!!
I have done it! I know exactly who Romney is. He is a Chinese whisper. (pun included)
Back to mega-math guys at Princeton ... no change
Obama 303
Romney 235
wanna bet BC?
I'm Surprised that the Resident Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM) are'nt promoting Chuck Todd's explanation of a socalled Oil Refinery somewhere around DC. Which in Fact is & always has been a Sewage Treatment Plant.
But as usual, with Chuck Todd's brownnoseing every GOP talking point, he could'nt Smell the $hit, that was permeating from the aformentioned Treatment Plant !
I'm also surprised that Chuck Todd's Head has'nt Exploded before our eyes on national TV, with his desire to Dominate Poltical News to the point of Promoting Lies, that he knows are LIES!
Where is 1st Reads Thread Screaming " President Obama Fails in attempt to Stop Sandy, 33(and counting)Dead" ? I have faith in this bunch to Promote such a thread sometime today!
Stay Tuned!
I see the Spankster is still on the BlackGold coming from those San Diego tunnels! Stand Down, Stand Down !
You Betcha!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
YES!
I saw Chuck Todd's disaster report telling us the sewage treatment plant was a local refinery.
Must be the same way he sees Obama.
With no one on MSNBC correcting him, they must think the same thing. Tells us a lot about why they blindly back the Obama.
I wouldn't put much faith in that "edge" in Ohio, for two reasons-
Two of the polls contributing to that edge- CNN and PPP- have methodology problems, meaning that those four point leads, which leaves them within the margin of error, need to be discounted- or, at a minimum, read as "tied".
Second, all the polling is confounded by the number of people who claim to have already voted- the official numbers do not support the polling numbers, so should, actually, be weighted down.
As to Marist- their problems are legendary.
Ohio is tight, but I firmly believe Romney is actually the one with the edge there.
You are certainly entitiled to believe that way but I firmly believe the opposite. Hope you folks on NJ pull out of the storm OK.
I personally think the polls in Ohio are way off!
I saw all the hoopla in Ohio in 2008 for Obama and that's REALLY not here this time around.
NOT EVEN CLOSE!
It's more like Romney 53% to Obama's 45% with 2% undecided.
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NoJo - R+3.
Holy hell, these poor libbies have no idea what's coming.
It will be so 'unexpected.'
Too funny.
By the way Mitt will take Ohio by 3 point.
What is it that make up the brains of an average republican. He or she will welcome from the same source a positive trend but incapable of accepting even if the same methodology was used in both instances if it goes the other way. A liberal will accept the results regardless. All liberals accepted that Romney won the first debate but republicans are yet to accept that Obama trounced Romney in two subsequent debates. I am amazed that Romney lies are being played as him navigating to the middle when in actual sense it is a case of flip flopping, etch -a- sketch. The republicans will never let a liberal get away with something like it. The only flip that Kerry did against Bush jr. was " l voted for it before l voted against it" meaning the Iraqi invasion by Bush jr. All hell broke loose. They followed Kerry every where with play cards showcasing, flip flop. Even though l don't believe some of the polls, l liken Rasmussen polls with a grain of salt as far as reality matters so are many other polls especially fox and all that it stood for. These two especially are patented Obama haters. How on earth would they not skewer the polls to show negativity towards him? All others have their own bias but on the whole the best poll will be the one on Nov. 6th. After that date, there will be no doubt what the people said, hopefully the Republicans will not challenge Obama trouncing lying Mitt. Romney as usual.
Spanky-
I will take the points $$$. Will you put your contention to a wager? Or is it just another cage-rattling troll?
Politics aside, this is just too good to pass up...and think of the bragging rites when you win!
So if and when Romney loses, I imagine we won't see Spanky around here for a week or so.
Oh no - Danger are you calling me a troll?
Tell you what, how about you define troll for me?
I would love to apply your definition to the many fun and exciting folk here, including you.
I'm a comedian...intentionally.
Your excuse?
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[3] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[4] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[5] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."
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I figured that you already KNEW the definition...considering...;-)
Oh, so that's humor.
Seems a tad passive-aggressive, but any port in a storm.
Interesting definition. Hmmm, looking at your posts even just here, I'd say an argument could be made that some might just be somewhat tangential or off topic.
All part of the fun and entertainment that is FR.
Say, whatever happened to our pal Mixed Bag?
When I came back, I actually figured he was you with a new screenname. Lots of similarity in the posting style. Always on the verge of getting personal. Never really adds any salient analysis. Just makes snarky comments, etc.
Spanky...
1-see below (credit where credit etc etc.)
2-I have been told (by nojoe?) that he has retired from the fray...
(and hey I am truly hurt by the "that's humor"..at least I am trying...)
MTCNC-
Irony free zone on the right, irony free zone on the left. Newer vehicles have a "blind-spot" detector...
So what do you do to actually feed yourself... because your "jokes" certainly aren't funny enough to earn you ANY money.
:O)
I collect unsolicited critiques from those who have nothing important to say and apparently nothing better to do...
Oh and bottles, I collect a lot of bottles...
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Nothing goes right. I joined Gamblers Anonymous. They gave me two-to-one I don't make it.
Michael......good to see you here. One can only hope it is for more than a week and that he takes a few others with him. It'll help clean up this board some.
dangerfield,that last one was funny. you mind if i use that?
Pick your poll and doubt the rest...the methodology of all polls is suspect, especially those that do not favor my guy, when I just KNOW he is ahead.
Election day is a week away and right now; (That MOE (Which NOBODY is above) is going to make a stooge of us all!)
NOBODY-
Knows who will win OHIO FOR CERTAIN!
(And you can take that to the bank!)
Here is something that Nobody wants to bank ...
wkwami.tumblr.com/post/34581010780/an-obama-ryan-presidency-the-black-swan-event-of
NOBODY- ( and the immortal Dusty Springfield)
Admits that they're just..
Wishing and
Hoping and
Kneeling and
Praying...
...but that's all it is...
In Canada's last election the polls had the Province of Quebec completely wrong. The last place party actually came first with an overwhelming majority and one of that party's candidates won with the largest majority while spending the entire time in Vegas during the campaign.
What 'Nobody' is doing is talking about any of the solid red states flipping, like what we see in Wisc., Penn., and now even Oregon.
O is at only 47% in Oregon.
Plus the Obama's real estate broker has been instructed to close and have Hawaii mansion ready by mid January 2013.
O knows what's up. TIme to line up those lucrative speaking fees.
Fat stacks for O.
Spanky-
Thanks for making this thread an "Irony free zone"...
Spanky - you're just a total joke. The Obama's real estate broker - really? When you post such total nonsense it show what a moronic idiot you are!
Back on ignore. You're definitely not worth the time!
Obama/Biden 2012
Seeking, honey, either you go with the ignore, or not.
What is it with you libbies - are you just incapable of any consistency?
Or how about you 'splain this ignore button. Do yu have to apply it everyday, or once on, does it stay on?
I always love a libbies who goes out of her way to post a comment proclaiming "you're definitely not worth the time!"
So very silly, even for a big brain like you Seeking.
Danger - better to be ironic, even unwittingly, than moronic.
Spanky-
Brilliant riposte! Perhaps you could use a psychic Colonic?
I thought that's what FR was?
I channel Rasputin
I channel Rasputin
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Where do I find that channel on my Roku box?
Spanky-
That's more like it!...;0-)
let me ask Anastasia or Alexei
Obama holds "slight edge" in Ohio and Wisconsin??
Wasn't too long ago, these states were considered solid blue, then they went to light blue, now there statistically even??
Looks like Romney will win one, if not both, of these states.
Kind of messes with the old election map huh??
But the new election map is just as messy...
What was the halftime score of last Sunday's Giants game?
Those who know don't talk and those who don't know talk and talk and talk...
Trash talk is um, just that.
Romney will win
Obama will win
See? just typing it does not make it so...
Im trying to find quatrain that these predicitions fall under? let me look into my pool of water or i can just tap edgar case with the ouija board and maybe he can tell me?
10 points for the Edgar Cayce reference! (5 for the Nostradamus allusion)
Do not fall asleep on Caesar...;-)
(Jean Dixon always waited until after something happened to "predict" it!)
dammit i knew i mispelled Edgars last name. i also mispelled desperate earlier. i was called out on it and then the same clown mispelled pedestrian. Good thing i am not for correcting mispellings. although there are exceptions to every rule. Im with jean, my hindsight is 20/15. always
Hey It was a brilliant friggin' post...any idiot can spell ( and I have examples galore if you like)
Anything that raises the level of discourse above_____SUCKS (apologies to the guy who actually posts that every day and gets 10 votes) is not only welcome but bordering on miraculous...
Yeah... we got it Danger...
But if we don't type these things there is nothing else to type (because no one here seems interested in actually discussing REAL issues) and therefore there is no reason for FR to exist.
:OP
Is that the medical "we", the Imperial "we" or are you Sybil?...;_)
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Any and all attempts at rational discussion would require participants with worldviews slightly more sophisticated than
"Your guy sucks!"
Where there is no sanity...comedy...
Polls do not vote. People do! Get out and vote early Ameica. That is fact!
You forgot; Vote often !
In difficult times like this the nation has a President, and not a 'boss.' The American People has a President working in the Oval Office, and not a "Bully In The Corporate Board Room." The nation has a President who, means what he says, and says what he means at all times. The nation has a President that communicates well with everyone, and has clear thinking on all issues. Our nation does not need a "Ill-Tempered Bully" making hasty decisions. The nation does not need a GOP/RNC "Poltical Fip-Flopper." This will just cause mistrust, confusion, and incompetence. FEMA being put into the hands of corporations like Bain Capital is just "Economically Evil," not realistic at all. Giving all relief tasks to the individual states will not work, and this was clearly learned already from US History. This was the era of the "Confederation OF States" that caused mistrust, and mass confusion between the states. Remember how this worked America? Read, research, and think very carefully of how the idea of a "Confederation Of States" failed. This is exactly what the GOP/RNC wants to do. Again! Let us not repeat history. Again!
Todays conservatives will not admit how wrong they have been about just about every thing that made this country great.
Alright poll junkies.....did you read what Don't Carry It All posted? Polls shmolls....so many of you R&R "fans" have President Obama ousted out of office already....wait until election day....then you can all put your money where your big mouths are!!!
Obama/Biden 2012
Anyone hear the GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief" said in Ohio this morning? He is still out there putting politics over the people, and is putting on the biggest "Crazy Conseervative Clown Show" in US Poltical History. Listen very closely to his politically "Wrenching Words." Listen to how the GOP/RNC "Pathological Liar and Chief" is using his words?
Rule of the thumb: Take whatever Rasmussen says and add 5% points to the Democrats and you will have an accurate poll.
In '08, no one was closer than Rasmussen.
Play again soon.
First Read will be scrambling the day before the election to put in its prediction of a Romney victory...that way it can brag for the next 4 years about how accurate NBC polling is...
How accurate is that NBC "Obama +9 in Virginia" poll looking ?
I think I hit that thumb with a hammer...
The final Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Election 2008 showed Barack Obama leading John McCain 52% to 46%. We are pleased to report that those figures precisely matched the actual election returns.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2008/2008_presidential_election/how_did_we_do
In states where the Obama machine hasnt polluted the airwaves with nasty attack ads, Romney is rising fast.
Catch the wave: Minnesota, Pa, Wisconsin are going to Romney.
Now that personal computers are available to almost anyone why are conservatives not any better informed than they were decades ago? They accept the same lies year after year and don't ever seem to come out ot their envelopes. One comment was that most republicans are followers and need to have simple solutions from their leaders and this does explain alot about them. They don't do well at thinking for themselves and this certainly seems to be true of conservative women.
This is 2012, and not 2008, obama is a exposed fraud, all of the voters who swallowed obama's bullsh*t have FOUND out that all it was and still is a bunch of BULLSH*T. No one organisation or news media or anyone in the government vetted obama, (huge mistake) but fortunately and unknowingly obama showed himself to be the Chicago thug that he is. Admittedly obama has a smooth line of (there goes that word again)BULLSH*T . But as every one knows the BULLSH*T will get you in the door then it's up to you to show that you can handle the job. That's where obama showed his true colors, he is a radical racist, a Marxist follower, a Muslim brotherhood sympathizer, very un American and very inexperienced. He (obama) has the most corrupt bunch of a combination of communists, bent liberals, ideologs who lie cheat and prostitute them selves for their own beliefs, and do not support any thing that resembles the American way. So any one who thinks obama is doing well should take the pulse of the voter with out the false representation of the leftist media. Obama is losing big time no matter what he tries to do to turn the tide.
TO: dangerfield who wrote:
I do, I do!
President Barack Obama will win Ohio and the Presidency, and you can take that to the bank!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!
BULLSH*T
American Girl-724855
TO: dangerfield who wrote:
I will agree with dangerfield that no one really knows. However we know were the momentum is still running and that is with Romney. We also know that this is not 2008.
My prediction is Romney wins the popular vote by 4 to 5% and takes the Electoral by 5 to 10 points. I will tell you what I Blatina will bet. If Romney wins I will post only 5 times after that win, and if he looses I will never again come to FR and read the stupidity that I see form only some of the left wackos here. You know who you are.
MSNBC marketed & sold Obama to the US, now they are telling their viewer that the only way Romney can win is with voter fraud & thievery.
Are they setting up or instilling a RIOT after the election? They seem to only allow one out come or else.
The Dems are so worried about Wisconsin,(they thought it was a sure thing)that the are sending Crazy Joe there to drum up support. This ought to be good! Maybe he can talk about the 500 trillion in Bush tax cuts for the rich again!
Yea, but will Joe know he's in Wisconsin?
Biden to Wisconsin voters- Get out and vote you cheese curdling crackers.
Dear Friends:
My condolences and prayers for all who have been impacted by Sandy and all natural disasters around the world. Amen.
What a Skateboard ride! Riding the High Surfs! Wooooooo! Wow!
Vote Obama and Biden! They pray and Obama also loves the waves of the Ocean. Naturalists and Environmentalists and all who care. Obama is and has been there.
Dear Friends:
I warned of the Earth Quake in Italy a few days ago. Maybe too early, but I did warn of it and the one in Los Angeles, CA. I now have also told you that there is usually a hit in similar latitude or horizontal direction but East and or West. Now I am telling you with these so close and the Sandy hurricane as well as the Volcano of Hawaii, some major, major occurrence will happen or natural disaster, different than we have seen or a hand full of actions. Expect the late season tornadoes. I have been attacked over my speaking out for the actions of environmental threats by Asians and Mormons. So it is difficult for me to understand what the profound or God has warning to us.
A book that I recommend for this day is The Deep The Extraordinary Creatures of the Abyss. by Claire Nouvian. There is no infinite novices of the Earth or the Ocean. However there are extraordinary men and woman who made their life so full of this exploration. This book touches on this as well as colorful, extraordinary photos of things never seen by those who have not also been there. The photos so vivid one can see the image of the camera and men captured in the blue eyes of the creatures of the ocean in some photos. It also shares the unusual temperatures of caverns and depths in the deep abyss of the Oceans. Public please, are these in all hemispheres and Gulfs? What is the farthest northerly Gulf of the USA? Of the World? China can threaten the masses of herds and schools of fish that swarm on Earth. Will these magnificent plants and creatures be taken to other planets. What is the hottest temperature of water streams from the core of Earth? Protection against these environmentally endangered species fall upon all of us on Earth and in the USA. Learning of the impeding weather and it relates Biblical and Learning is not one that should be stopped or horded nor learning in any way on the basis of prejudice.
Trump making comments and troubled waters during this election about the private and personal sex life and marriage of Barrack and Michelle Obama is unethical, disrespectful and prejudice.
This Administration has done more for to save the auto industry and ecology and jobs for this nation than most industries and prior Administrations.
Books such as I have mentioned above are being damaged from Libraries in the USA. I know not if this is occurring in other nations or cities as mine, but I suspect it is because these are speaking out about environmental threats of nations. Earth is our home at this time and mankind must protect this and each of their nations. This Obama and Biden have done.
Halloween is soon! Children of all ages! read a good science book! Dress up like one of the deep creatures of the dark and mysterious Abyss. The Ocean!
Popping eyes that bug out, fins and tentacles that suck on to you like the Octopus and tentacles of the other sea monsters. How fun! Have a Halloween party or Fall Harvest Festival Party and have a surprise. In Folsom Open Market in the Palladio Shopping center on the weekends, I met a woman that had real hallowed out brilliant and unusual blue large Emu eggs. She has one Emu that she takes to schools and private parties or birthday parties. Wow something like this for your children and Adults! What a party! Have a reading and bring books of the Ocean to an Environmental experience and learning at a party. Wow! A Halloween party! That has food of the season and teaches how they grow, when and where and including the fish migration patterns of the season as well. What a party! A Whale of a party!
The deep Abyss is not prejudice! Let not the next generation live with the types of Prejudice that Whoopi Goldberg, Barrack and Michelle Obama and myself have experienced, nor all of the people that are not Mormons. Vote Democratic! Vote Obama and Biden. For the future! Amen.
Gamblers staying in the casino! Now that it is over come out and help clean up!
FEMA at work for you! Earth Quake again should happen can the weather people and you predict where it will come from out of the Earths fault lines? Hot water from the deep all kinds of pressure!
Storms this season is not quite over.
Children of all ages check the glossary of books! Spelling bees! You could win as well as understanding.
God Bless! Amen.
My Heart and Prayers go out for all who have lost their lives and those who are injured or family members impacted. May God Bless you in your sorrow and fear. Amen.
Vote Democratic! Vote Obama and Biden.
Dear Friends:
Hi Grandpa! A hurricane! Do you hear it? Yes Grandson.
Nope I am not afraid. OK.
Protect me Oh Lord! He hears your prayers. Amen.
Grandpa do you vote? Yes Grandson that's cause I am a man. OK! Obama he is the man and I will vote for him.
Right there! Look what I found. A wee little voice of another little one. Protect them. Vote Obama and Biden.
'You'se Guys' enjoying all the wata' up thaya'?
Living here on the NC coast tropical storms/hurricanes are almost an annual occurance. Their not a lot of fun, but the media definetly plays it up BIG TIME!! Having watched the HUGE influx of yellow lisence plates (and the obnoxious mouths to go with them) for the last ten yrs. or so, we are not too fond of the yankee infiltration that has occured here. We call the retirees 'halfbackers' because they retire to Fla. realize its too hot, and only move half back. Sucks for us! We just call the rest obnoxious 'damn yankees'! That being said, "YOU'SE GUYS" have fu@&'in fun with that wata' up there!! Couldnt have happened in a betta place!! okay Im gonna "get the f@#k outta heeea!! Enjoy yankees, heee!!
What actual voting blocks can the Romneyettes claim they own? Women voters? Latinos? Blacks? The intelligent, informed voter? The working/middle-class? NONE of the aforementioned is the correct response. The elderly? I doubt they will vote for a man who promises to vocuherize their hard-fought-for benefits.
So who can the Romneyettes latch onto as their voting block? The racist and the haters; that's who! Definitely America's cowards and the uber stupid who can't read a bubble-gum wrapper! These idiots from the back woods of this country's tobacco-spitting, moonshine swilling, pot-bellied, broken down truck driving, one tooth-having, suspender-wearing, gun-loving, hog-calling, cousin screwing, bathtub beer making and drinking, Jefferson Davis holdover; Anglo ass-holes from two centuries ago! "I'll abort yo' ass woman...somebody hand me a clothes-hanger damn it!"
We cannot afford a Romney victory because he will HURT America and perhaps even destroy it! How can ANY informed voter vote for this LIAR and tax cheat? Romney will RAPE America and set us back to the pre-stone age when men dragged women by the hair and ate dinosaur meat for lunch. The GOP at large will DAMAGE this nation beyond repair because they believe that the poor should stay poor so they will be forced to serve THEM! They like their women-folk barefoot, pregnant, and chained to the kitchen stove; and without personal resources. The want their nation back alright; they want it back to the days when the old-boys ruled and hung blacks from trees for even looking at a white woman. Listen to the way they talk and you will hear it their voices.
Forward...not backward; MUST BE THIS NATION'S RALLYING CRY! WE REFUSE TO GO BACKWARD!!!
Right on...
Wow, Obama cares? Is that why when Virginia had 29 tornadoes, killing 10 people and over 1200 houses destroyed or damaged, FEMA denied help to Virginia?
That is the real reason why Romney believes the state should decide on what FEMA does, then FEMA cannot and will not penalize a state that is mostly Republican and has a Republican governor.
May 8, 2011
Jeff Caldwell
Press Secretary
(804) 786-2211
Bob Spieldenner
Virginia Department of Emergency Management
(804) 897-6510
www.vaemergency.gov
FEMA Denies Federal Disaster Assistance for Virginia Tornado Damage
– Governor McDonnell considers appealing decision –
The Federal Emergency Management Agency has denied Virginia's request for federal disaster assistance for those affected by the April tornadoes.
Governor Bob McDonnell requested federal disaster assistance for the counties of Halifax, Pulaski and Washington. Also, the governor requested FEMA include April 8-28 as one incident period so other localities, such as Gloucester and Middlesex, could be added later.
Virginia was struck by 29 tornadoes in April, killing ten and destroying an estimated 212 homes and damaging 1,050.
"We are very disappointed that FEMA did not grant disaster assistance for Virginians still working to recover from the tornadoes," said Governor McDonnell. "We are examining the possibility of appealing the decision, but in the mean time, state resources will continue to support the efforts of local governments and volunteer organizations that are helping our citizens recover.
"I want to thank local elected officials, state legislators and especially our congressional members for their strong, unwavering, bipartisan support of our request," he added.
In addition, FEMA denied Virginia's request for the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program, which provides funds for government projects that help reduce disaster risks by protecting homes and businesses against future damage.
Here's the link:
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/news/viewRelease.cfm?id=736
OBAMA CARES ABOUT HIMSELF AND WHAT HE CAN TAKE FROM US CITIZENS. OBAMA CARED SO MUCH FOR AMBASSADOR STEVENS THAT HE HAD A 4 PERSON SECURITY DETAIL AND HIS PAL FROM CHICAGO, VALERIE JARRETT HAD A 6 PERSON SECURITY DETAIL IN MARTHA'S VINEYARD/CAPE COD.
Obama is a joke.
Can someone tell me where the first ladies are involved in the east coast crisis? Where are Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden? Do you really think Mrs. Clinton, Mrs. Gore, Mrs. Bush, Mrs. Cheney would have been nowhere to be found in a crisis such as the east coast? Rosalyn Carter? We have had some involved, caring first ladies who gave all they could to any crisis.
You argue that Mrs Bush showed up BUT what did she in fact actually do to give aid or relief? I believe that answer would be...NOTHING; NOT A DAMN THING! Gov. Christie seems to feel quite differently than you on this very important issue Will! Hmmm???
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