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Subscribe to RSSCould the vast disruption caused by Sandy prompt a delay in the Nov. 6 presidential election? Voting may be extensively disrupted in some of the swing states, including Virginia and Ohio.
MSNBC's Chris Jansing talks with NBC's Pete Williams about the impact Superstorm Sandy may have on the election, and the issues that would surround a possible postponement of the presidential election.
The answer is, yes, it could undoubtedly be delayed. But it almost certainly won't be.
The Constitution gives Congress the authority to establish the day for presidential elections, and since 1845, a federal law has set the date as "the Tuesday after the first Monday in November." Congress could change the date, just as it could change any federal statute. But it would have to act quickly.
And of course, it's the states, not the federal government, that run elections in America. Many states in areas not affected by Sandy's wrath would be likely to oppose a delay and its attendant costs. They could choose to go ahead with their elections for all but president and have a separate election for president later. But such a move would undoubtedly suppress the turnout.
Past disasters, including weather emergencies, have forced postponement of state and local elections. New York state suspended its primary election in 2001 -- on September 11th, the day of the suicide hijack attacks. But few states have a regular procedure for doing it. Florida, with its long experience in dealing with hurricanes, is one of the few with specific procedures in place, allowing the governor to suspend or delay elections.
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Superstorm Sandy made landfall Monday evening on a destructive and deadly path across the Northeast.
John Fortier, a nationally respected expert on presidential elections, points out additional problems, writing on a blog sponsored by the Moritz School of Law at Ohio State University.
"If voting were disrupted and postponed in one state," Fortier says, "then we will likely know the results in all the other states before voting can resume in the affected state. If the affected state or states are determinative of the electoral college outcome, the pressure and focus on that one state would be enormous."
Among other questions, he says, are what to do with votes already cast.
Finally, consider the fact that never before the U.S. history has a presidential election been postponed or canceled, not even during the Civil War.
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In the final push in the 2012 presidential election, candidates Mitt Romney and Barack Obama make their last appeals to voters.
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I wouldn't expect her to...
I'm curious as what, if any, contingency plans are in place for power outages and such?
I'm still chuckling from the RWNJ's crying President Obama would declare Marshall Law and suspend the election yesterday... lol
Might be a good idea for FR to impose a basic civics lessons on these nimrods, prior to allowing them to comment!
Imagine the space which would be saved! ;o)
Hey fishy smelling redhead...
You have 7 days left...Thats when Mitt Romney will be our new President and you'll go back under the bridge, hopefully never to troll again!!!
nah nah nah nah....nah nah nah nah....hey hey hey....GOODBYE!!!
Well, thank God that with all of their integrity Republicans would never stoop to such tactics!
Feisty,
In an extremely close Presidential Election that may already last until early the next day before we have a preliminary result it may be days given the possibility of several recounts and millions of contingency ballots that will need to be counted before we have a final result.
In the case of a tie (269/269) we won't have a "President Elect" until after the new Congress meets in Jan.
Romney can't be President any earlier than January 22, 2013.
FYI...correct term is "Martial Law".
When Romney wins the election, will "Feisty Redhead" disappear? Will you be here Nov. 7?
CantAfford,
Mitt Romney's answer to students.
"Borrow money from your parents"
This is the same Mitt Romney who said Detroit should get private financing when there was none available. Every expert, including thousands of former Republicans said Mitt Romney's approach would have destroyed millions of US jobs. It would have taken 2-4 years to go through the privately funded bankruptcy (if there was money available) that Mitt Romney wanted. That's 2-4 years of GM and Chrysler workers without jobs.
In 2004, loony lefties refused to concede the election for days, even though Bush won Ohio by 2.1%, 118,000 votes. They decided to believe in some grand conspiracy about voting machines...
Expect similar desperation by the lefties when Romney wins; conspiracy theories about voter suppression, and worthless lawsuits....
Thanks Noid!
Gotta love "auto-correct"! lol
SHORT LIST OF OUTRIGHT LIES BY BARACK OBAMA
Increase the capital gains and dividends taxes for higher-income taxpayers
Increase capital gains and dividends taxes from 15 to 20 percent for those making more than $250,000 (couples) or $200,000 (single)
Expand the child and dependent care credit
Expand and make refundable the child and dependent care credit.
Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Create a $10 billion fund to help homeowners refinance or sell their homes. "The Fund will not help speculators, people who bought vacation homes or people who falsely represented their incomes."
Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form
Will direct the Internal Revenue Service to "give taxpayers the option of a pre-filled tax form to verify, sign and return to the IRS or online. This will eliminate the need for Americans to hire expensive tax preparers and to gather information that the federal government already has on file."
Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
Create a refundable tax credit equal to 10 percent of mortgage interest for nonitemizers, up to a maximum credit of $800.
Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans
Automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans for workers whose employers offer retirement plans.
Require automatic enrollment in IRA plans
Require employers who do not offer retirement plans to offer their workers access to automatic IRAs and contribute via payroll deduction.
Create a retirement savings tax credit for low incomes
A tax credit for retirement savings up to $500 (couples) or $250 (singles). Phases out when incomes exceed $65,000 (couples) or $32,500 (single). Indexed for inflation.
End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
"Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors -- saving them an average of $1,400 a year-- and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all."
End no-bid contracts above $25,000
Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges
Repeal the Bush tax cuts for higher incomes
Repeal the Bush tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 (couples) or $200,000 (single)
Phase out exemptions and deductions for higher earners
Restore the phaseouts of personal exemptions and itemized deductions for those making more than $250,000 (couples) or $200,000 (single), with threshholds indexed for inflation.
Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize
Lift the payroll tax cap on earnings above $250,000
Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses
Allow workers to claim more in unpaid wages and benefits in bankruptcy court
Allow imported prescription drugs
Prevent drug companies from blocking generic drugs
Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices
Appoint federal-level coordinator to oversee all federal autism efforts
Double federal funding for cancer research
Direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct a comprehensive study of federal cancer initiatives
Provide the CDC $50 million in new funding to determine the most effective approaches for cancer patient care
Fully fund the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
Create a National Commission on People with Disabilities, Employment, and Social Security
Change federal rules so small businesses owned by people with disabilities can get preferential treatment for federal contracts.
Reduce the threshhold for the Family and Medical Leave Act from companies with 50 employees to companies with 25 employees
Provide a $1.5 billion fund to help states launch programs for paid family and medical leave
Require employers to provide seven paid sick days per year
Expand the Family Medical Leave Act to include leave for domestic violence or sexual assault
Form international group to help Iraq refugees
Work with Russia to move nuclear weapons off hair-trigger alert
Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Develop an alternative to President Bush's Military Commissions Act on handling detainees
Strengthen the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and double its budget in the next four years
Secure ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)
Seek to negotiate a political agreement on Cyprus
Reinstate special envoy for the Americas
Double the Peace Corps
Seek independent watchdog agency to investigate congressional ethics violations
Create a public "Contracts and Influence" database
Expose Special Interest Tax Breaks to Public Scrutiny
Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
Double funding for Federal Charter School Program and require more accountability
Double funding for afterschool programs
Expand the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity
Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws
Support repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
Sign the Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act into law
Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage
Increase the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour
Restore Superfund program so that polluters pay for clean-ups
Support tax deduction for artists
Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council
Support human mission to moon by 2020
Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit
Reduce the number of middle managers in the federal workforce
Strengthen the Age Discrimination in Employment Act
Limit term of director of national intelligence
Give annual "State of the World" address
Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels
Work to ban the permanent replacement of striking workers
Establish a low carbon fuel standard
Enact windfall profits tax for oil companies
Create cap and trade system with interim goals to reduce global warming
Use revenue from cap and trade to support clean energy and environmental restoration
Require plug-in fleet at the White House
Require new federal fleet purchases to be half plug-in hybrids or electric vehicles
Require more flex-fuel cars for the federal government
Mandate flexible fuel vehicles by 2012
Double federal program to help "reverse" commuters who go from city to suburbs
Require energy conservation in use of transportation dollars
Provide an annual report on "state of our energy future"
Devote federal resources to promote cellulosic ethanol
Sign the Freedom of Choice Act
Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009
Give the White House's Privacy and Civil Liberties Board subpoena power
Recognize the Armenian genocide
No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."
Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN
Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange.
Cut the cost of a typical family's health insurance premium by up to $2,500 a year
Bring Democrats and Republicans together to pass an agenda
Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year
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Probe-Boy,
Why wouldn't I be?
I was here long before you arrived and will be here to wish you good-bye on the 7th, after President Obama is elected for his second term!
Count on it! ;o)
Sorry Repubs, the Death Star/weather machine failed to suppress votes via super storm. Your plans have been foiled.
I figure a Far Lefty FR lib would concoct a similar fable.
Bravo Feisty, Marshall Law? You mean like Wyatt Earp? Get out of Dodge
Electoral College Model Predicts Romney Will Win Even Bigger Than Previously Thought in 2012
University of Colorado Professors Ken Bickers and Michael Berry and their highly-accurate Electoral College prediction model. As you may recall, Bickers and Berry, using their metrics, are able to retroactively predict every presidential win since 1980.
Their 2012 model made headlines two months ago because, despite polling, it found that Republican presidential candidate Romney would win 320 Electoral Votes, stealing the White House away from President Barack Obama. Now, an updated version of their study has come to the same conclusion — but it intensifies the numbers behind a predicted Romney win.
Despite the fact that polls still show a dead-heat race (Obama is currently at 48.2 percent, with Romney capturing 47.3 percent of likely voters in the most recent Real Clear Politics average), an updated election model shows an even larger gap between the Electoral College votes that Romney and Obama are projected to win. According to Bickers and Berry, the Republican challenger is projected to take 330 of the 558 votes, while Obama is expected to capture only 208 of them.
While many election forecast models are based on the popular vote, the model developed by Bickers and Berry is based on the Electoral College and is the only one of its type to include more than one state-level measure of economic conditions. They included economic data from all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
nah nah nah nah......nah nah nah nah....hey hey hey.....GOODBYE!!!!
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Was that supposed to be funny?
I don't see how elections can be held in Delaware, New Jersey or New York.
Chris Christie is the absolute best example of the future of America...when Romney becomes our new president.
And to think of all the "horrific" name calling, of Chris Christie, that I read over the past four years on this site. Now all those name callers are using Christie's bipartisan leadership as a feather in their Obama hat.
Romney/Ryan with Christie for a "United" may I repeat a "United" States of America.
Thanks Noid!
Gotta love "auto-correct"! lol
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Geez, Noid, you bucking for a full time job correcting the stupidity of the regular FR lefty liberals??
Yesterday it was you correcting Bev calling hurricane Sandy "hurricane Susan". Today you are correcting Nasty DumbFux on the term martial law from the same post she is recommending FR require the RWNJ's take civics lessons for comments on Barry imposing "Marshall Law".
Will you work for popcorn??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL. Marshall Law. WYATT F*CKING EARP!
I'll be your Huckleberry. LMFAO.
I expect he does but to most everyone else he just looks like an @$$.
I expect Feisty will remind you November 7th what you said. :)
Lest we forget.
Updated as of 11:00am EST on Tuesday, October 30:
Real Clear Politics (RCP) is consistently cited by both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS as a current source for reliable averaged polling data at every level of American politics.
RCP continues to consider the following eleven states, listed in descending order of electoral votes, as "toss-up": Florida (FL), Pennsylvania (PA), Ohio (OH), Michigan (MI), North Carolina (NC),Virginia (VA), Colorado (CO), Wisconsin (WI), Iowa IO), Nevada (NV) and New Hampshire (NH).
With only 157 hours left in the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama leads in seven of the toss-ups, Romney leads in two, and in CO and VA as of Saturday the candidates are now tied.
In descending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of 'percentage of lead' in favor of Romney, here are the published averaged numbers from RCP as of 11:00am EST today together with the FiveThirtyEight election night probability of victory for either candidate:
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In PA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.7%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 94.2% chance of winning PA.
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In MI, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 4.0%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 98.1% chance of winning MI.
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In NV, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.4%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 79.7% chance of winning NV.
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In WI, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.3%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama an 85.7% chance of winning WI.
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In IO, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.3%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 70.9% chance of winning IO.
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In NH, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 2.0%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 70.3% chance of winning NH.
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In OH, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead is holding at 1.9%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 73.3% chance of winning OH.
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In VA, with 13 electoral votes, the race remains tied.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 57.8% chance of winning VA.
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In CO, with 9 electoral votes, the race remains tied.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Obama a 55.4% chance of winning CO.
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In FL, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead has fallen to 1.3%, down from yesterday's 1.4%.
FiveThirtyEight currently gives Romney a 64.7% chance of winning FL.
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In NC, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is holding at 3.0%.
FiveThirtyEight gives Romney an 81.4% chance of winning NC.
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For Obama to win re-election, the least complex route appears to be through maintaining his current lead in the four toss-up states in which his existing margins are widest, PA, MI, NV, and WI, together with OH where his lead has been hovering at a vulnerable 2.0% for the past few days. Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271. In this scenario, Obama could still surpass 270 while failing to hold either IO or NH.
However, should Obama fail to hold OH, the loss could effectively be neutralized by any of the following combination of wins from states where FiveThirtyEight is currently predicting Obama victories:
Path #1: Obama loses OH but wins IO, NH, and CO resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #2: Obama loses OH but wins IO and VA resulting in 272 electoral votes.
Path #3: Obama loses OH but wins CO and VA resulting in 275 electoral votes.
However, regarding Path #1, there is some question as to the accuracy of the RCP polling numbers in NH which still include in their average a recent 'outlier' finding from UNH which had Obama leading by a questionable 9.0%.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to hold the two states in which he presently leads, FL and NC, bringing his electoral vote total to 235, but also steal victories in CO where his lead fell from 0.4% on
Friday to that of dead heat, in VA where his lead fell from 1.0% on Saturday to another dead heat, and finally with OH where Obama's lead this morning is 1.9%. By so doing, Romney's electoral vote total would reach 275.
Should Romney take CO and VA but fail to take OH, he could overcome this shortfall by stealing WI and either IO or NH, resulting respectively in an electoral vote total of 273 or 271.
FiveThirtyEight, at present, estimates the chance of Election Day victory for each candidate as follows: Obama 72.9% - Romney 27.1%.
FiveThirtyEight also projects that on Election Day the final electoral tally will be as follows: Obama 295 -Romney 243.
Lastly, although it makes no difference in terms of the final result which can only be determined by the Electoral College, FiveThirtyEight also projects a national popular vote distribution on Election Day as follows: Obama 50.3% - Romney 48.8%.
With only 157 hours of campaigning left, this one may come down to the wire….and to the October jobs report which because of Hurricane Sandy may be delayed from a scheduled Friday release to the following Monday, one day before the election.
Let's hope that Election Day is free of both voter fraud and voter intimidation and that eligible voters who have registered in good faith over the past six months are in fact able to vote on November 6; let's also hope that vote tabulation itself is performed honestly and accurately by both the election commissions and private corporations to whom this essential role is being entrusted.
In any case, it will be interesting to watch as election night unfolds.
Remember people, this last week you are going to see a few things happening. The amount of over the top left wing garbage is going to fully be served up, with all of the trimmings and extras. Yes it will be loaded down and weighted down with extra garbage this week. Just keep looking past it like you always have. The democrats have nothing to stand on. Look at Obama's record for the last four years.
Ask yourself one question, if you do not think about anything else until election day. Deep down in your heart, after everything you've seen ----
Who really loves America more? Romney or Obama?
c'mon feisty -- anyone who has taken a civics class, and probably many that have not, know that it is Martial and not Marshall.
must you always blame someone or something for your mistakes? just admit you screwed up and be done with it.
Hey Ticked, you using an electoral college map from somebody name Bicker an Berry. Man you are bout to silliest idiot on FR. All major sources to include RCP, the one you right wingers love to use says the president will win the electoral college.
Hope Bickers and Berry make u sleep good at night with all that BS they throwing down your throat. Man u really gonna Ticked around 10pm next tuesday when the media say President Obama has be "Re-elected".
7 more days until the stain on America will begin to be removed! It can't happen too soon as I see obama has plans to increase government even more with his foolish 'Department of Business' idea! Yikes! Is he that demented?
When we send him back to Chicago, perhaps he could give that proverbial lemonade stand another try.... a litlle business experience might give you more credibility little Barry!
Romney/Ryan 2012 .... to end the errors of the obama debacle!
Oh, and lest I forget after the celebrations next Tuesday.... I want to thank feisty redwig and her pals for convincing me and many others that the progressive movement is definitely in decline, thanks in part to their misgueded efforts and this blog.... lmao!
My problems arent so big today:(
Thoughts and Prayers to those in the NE. Our area is setting up places as we speak to help out.
Obama's Surge
From the article above:
Nate Silver still has President Obama winning with 295 Electoral Votes.
Colorado – Obama UP
Iowa – Obama UP
Nevada – Obama UP
Ohio – Obama UP
Virginia – Obama UP
Wisconsin – Obama UP
And yes, in Florida – Obama UP
Governor Romney - DOWN and falling FAST.
Governor Chris Christy had glowing praise for the President last night.
General Colin Powell endorsed President Obama.
President Obama will be re-elected.
God Bless our Great President.
Salud
WOW...are you delusional. Take another sip of Kool-aid. Stop spouting garbage.
Debunk him Brian. Don't just rant something lame. If you can that is. :)
Brian-
LMAO!
Typical.
You can't talk about the candidate you support so you have to demonize others.
Juvenile, immature, and petty.
Same old, same old.
Karl Rove would be so proud.
Salud
One thing I know... Democrats are really concerned about turnout, given the lukewarm reception the messiah has been getting... Conservatives, on the other hand, would swim the deepest flood to vote him out of office...
dblIndy-
Nice try to manipulate the public perception.
Another Karl Rove tactic.
Nothing luke-warm at all. We LOVE President Obama.
Democrats are leading Republicans in pre-election voting.
We have been swarming to the voting booths for a month now.
It has been one of the Democratic campaign strategies to do this from the start.
And there are far more registered Democrats in America than Republicans.
It's republicans who are scrabling now to catch up.
Salud
Its good to know that Americans are resilent enough to get out there and vote after a storm like this.
Sad for R$mney, he is still going to lose in the election. 1 week from today, the results will point to an Obama victory.
I consider myself to be a moderate-liberal, and I take objection to this. I voted for Obama for 2012, but only because the sleezeball combination of Romney/Ryan makes me want to puke. Well, that and the "Party of God" known as the GOP.
Obama has a LOT to answer for in regards to Civil Liberties, among other things. Perhaps a second term would be better, perhaps not. However, after seeing the real facts behind Bain as well as how evasive both Romney and Ryan are when asked for specifics, I can't trust them any more than I trust Obama - therefore my vote goes to the evil I know, rather than the evil I don't.
I imagine the same might be said for a large number of Democrats as well, though obviously to a lesser or greater degree depending on the individual.
The bitter vile and vitrol spewed by both sides serves as a turn off to many - something that the parties ought to consider, but never will. The GOP is in a death spiral and trying to take the entire country with it, and the Dems can't seem to get a clear, consistent message.
Read Heinlein's Revolt in 2100 - it's a frightening look at what happens when religion dominates politics.
You best check the Battle Ground States before claiming victory. :)
For all of you knocking President Obama's record for the past four years, his next term will be better IF, and this is doubtful at best, the Republicans stop their obstructionist tactics and decide to do their part in allowing us to have a functional Congress. Romney, for all his bluster about the need to have bipartisan cooperation, is still the candidate for the Party of NO.
@hungrymoose and others, your desperation is pathetic.
I agree we need cooperation, but with Obama it is a one way street. A week after being elected, he held a meeting with republicans, and when they gave him some of their thoughts and ideas, he hit them with his now famous, "Elections have consequences," speech, and his "take a seat in the back of the bus" rhetoric. So much for bipartisanship. It is up to the PRESIDENT to set the tone. Romney would meet frequently with democrats and give them a seat at the table. How do I know that? Because that's how he's governed in Massachusetts, where he had democrat majorities but still was able to get meaningful legislation done. Obama screams that everything has to be his way, and then when you don't like it, he accuses YOU of being an obstructionist. His act has worn thin with so many Americans.
It seems this storm will hurt both candidates--the President cannot get to Colorado and Romney can't break through the storm coverage. Remember too that any suppressed turnout as a result of the storm benefits Romney.
I expect the results of the storm to be a 'wash', that is, negligible in helping either candidate.
The personal attacks of the previous posters are inane...perhaps the Republican panic button has been pushed?
The 269 electoral vote tie is the least likely outcome...Chuck Todd likes to trot it out as a possibility just as Tim Russert used to do. It makes for a bit of scintillation but that's all.
Very unlikely like you say. It would be kinda funny to have Romney's VP either Biden, or would it be Dingy Harry?
Why couldn't the Senate choose Obama to be Romney's Vice president? He's on the ballot.
It doesn't work that way with an electoral tie. It would be Romney/Biden. God, I almost admit that would be funny. :D
It wouldn't come out that way. Obama would be President and Lyin Ryan would be Vice President
I heard the opposite but I am not sure. That would be about as funny but I think Mitt/Biden would be hysterical. :D
I can see humor in it, but I don't want the flip flopping, koch brothers check cashing, and twit in the WH. :-)
Nor do I. But imagine the deadlocked Senate votes where Mitt would want Biden to vote one way and Biden would tell Mitt to FO. :D
It really isn't so hard to research something before posting. In the event of an electoral tie, the House chooses the President, and the Senate chooses the VP. Until January 3, the Republicans control the House, and the Democrats control the Senate, therefore it's safe to say that the Republicans would choose Romney.
~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
I agree with Jeff for the first time....that would be funny.
To clarify, the house would pick the pres (Romney would be picked) and the senate would pick the vp (Biden would be picked). What an eventful 4 years we would have ahead of us.
Who is authorized to make the call to delay the election? I don't think the President has the Consttutional authority, though that hasn't stopped our current one in the past.
CantThinkNoMore:
That wasn't Obama's action, that was the U.N.
You're too stupid to vote.
Most right winger are to stupid to vote. Bill Mayer did an interview with right wingers in the south a few months ago. He ask them why should the government stay out of your life when you are receiving government assistance right now. These old farts said well sir, I earn my government assistance. Wow, really..
klone -- so the UN ordered obama to send in the bombers?
The UN asked. Obama said yes without asking Congress. Next.
If they are indeed old farts, they probably worked all their lives and paid taxes. That would be a stretch to say they earned it but, the point is there are those getting assistance that don't and haven't paid a dime.
Jason797:
You obviously missed the follow up interview conducted by Alexandra Pelosi (Bill Maher didn't do either interview) demonstrating the exact same mindset of those abusing welfare and food stamp programs in New York City, while proclaiming allegiance to Obama. Both sides have their low information voters...
Congress makes the call, it was on Fox last night.

Upstate is correct. In case of a tie, the House of Representatives decides the winner of the Presidential election. But relax you liberals, the Senate gets to select the VP. So if that occurs, how many White House meetings do you think Biden would be invited to? He would probably end up being in charge of polishing statues in Washington DC.
For all you Repubs concerned about jobs....go to Romney's website and click on immigration. Romney wants to bring in MORE FOREIGN WORKERS to take American jobs. While Romney will decrease funding for American education, he is saying that Americans are not skilled enough for the high tech/complex jobs so we need to raise the cap for companies wanting to import foreign workers, so MORE FOREIGN WORKERS can take our jobs.
When I heard Romney say that at one of the debates I was astounded. Why not enhance education and training here in the U.S. so those jobs are filled by Americans?!
Tuesday, October 30, 2012
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. One percent (1%) prefers some other candidate, and another two percent (2%) remain undecided. See daily tracking history.
Fifty-one percent (51%) of voters have a favorable opinion of Romney and 48% say the same of Obama.
By a 51% to 45% margin, voters trust Romney more than Obama on the economy.
Romney wants to bring in foreign engineers and scientists we are lacking. But it would be governed by need rather than political agenda
Talk about Voter Suppression? That was a huge storm, I wish the best for everyone.
I'm beginning to even wonder why I keep voting every four years. If it all comes down to just a few states (one I don't live in) that decide the outcome of this whole thing then why do I even bother standing in line.
It is your duty as a citizen.
I've voted every election since I've been old enough to vote. Just tired of all the damn polls and hearing it all comes down to votes in just a few states. I'm also tired of hearing people say they're voting independent. I don't get people who go and vote independent in an election like this. JUST VOTE for one or the other or don't waste a vote at all.
I am a Democrat in Missouri. The chances of my vote actually mattering is slim to none. BUT, I have the constitutional right to vote and I do every time. Just because my vote appears to not matter much, I am not about to give up this right.
Go Obama - Biden!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Claire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Periodically things shift in various states, and they will continue to do so. Keep voting until then though. It's our right and responsibility.
Oh please, If you don't know who you're voting for by now, you're an idiot. If you waste your vote on the Republicans, you're an even bigger idiot.
And if you waste your vote on a Democrat you are the KING OF IDIOTS!
Wow, everyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot? Do you also still believe Obama has the most transparent admin in history? Did you get to watch 5 days of deliberation of Obamacare on Cspan like your king promised? No new taxes on the middle class was the promise but the supreme court says obamacare is legal because it's a tax, please explain this to me cause apparently I'm an idiot
Shut up jck. You're not doing you side any favors by acting like a child.
Believe it or not, there are still people who don't know for whom they are voting. That doesn't make them idiots. It just makes them undecided, and to trash people for voting for the party that you don't support makes you the idiot. Leave people to make their own choices about their voting. Regardless of the candidate I choose, I will not respect a person any less for disagreeing with me as long as they can defend their choice.
I will say this, though. If you don't exercise your right to vote, you can't exercise your right to complain.
I have no doubt but that republicans in the affected areas will turn out to vote no matter what. Republicans are far more enthusiastic to vote this year than dems. Add to that the fact that dems, in order to be bribed to vote, need a meal, a van ride and a sticker telling folks they voted in order to put down the Doritos, get up off the couch and go out the door.
This fact is what has Obama campaigners apeplectic.
Exactly, Democrats will just stay home and blame it on the storm.
Obama Lies (he doesn't) and Brian - I've never known a Democrat who needs to be bribed to vote. However, this year, I know several Republicans who will vote - just not for President!
Obama/Biden 2012
If you think Obama doesn't lie than I understand your moniker. You are truely insane. That said, Romney lies alot also.
I'm glad to see Seeking is finally coming around, admitting that Obama lies. This is real progress people...let's hear some applause.
Presidential Polls 2012: Latest Rasmussen Poll Puts Romney in 2 Point Lead
Read more at #KSs6lCxayZRFCswi.99
Ohio: Romney 50%, Obama 48%
looks like "one and Done" for the clown in the white house....
Amen... God Bless America
I repeat again, No one cares what Rasmussen has other Right Wing Nuts like you.
Rasmussen is Pro-Conservative who is on Fox News every week. But i guess you can't help it since it make Romney numbers look good. DAMN FOOL..
Jason- What is it about being a liberal that prevents you from making a post that doesn't include an insult? Goes for both sides, just seems the Dems hurl the insults more frequently on here.
No Jason...we should only care about what the left wing nuts say right??? Romney will win. DEAL WITH IT.
jason -- interesting that you do not care about rasmussen polling. yes rasmussen does appear on fox regularly, a good question may be why the left leaning media do not ask him to appear. a review of the accuracy of the 2008 polling showed this:
Costas Panagopoulos of Fordham University, surveying 23 polling organizations, prepared a list showing which organizations were most accurate in their final poll before the 2008 election.
Two — Rasmussen Reports and the Pew Research Center — got the result dead right, Panagopoulos says. Of the other 21, 17 over-estimated support for Barack Obama, while just four said John McCain would receive a larger percentage of the vote than he actually did.
The big media organizations almost universally failed to give readers a final accurate prediction, with Newsweek coming in dead last, just behind polls for CBS/New York Times; Reuters/C-Span/Zogby and Gallup.
Polls carried out for Fox, NBC, ABC, the Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal were also all in the bottom half of Panagopoulos’ study.
It's called being nervous and desperate. Simple really. Denial is a strong and dangerous thing. It brings out the worst in people.
To billbob and other Romney supporters. How do you know the left wing media did not invite Rasmussen on there networks. HOW do you know of this information? (You don't know, just assuming)
I never said the left don't have their bias pollster (I.E. politico, dailykos). But all you right wingers say Rasmussen is the most accurate POLL. That is BS, if Rasmussen was so accurate then what happen in 2008. Rasmussen said Mccain was up in OH,FL,VA and tied in PA. Obama won all 4 states and wasn't close.
Billbob is a liar, Rasmussen is not in the top 2 for most accurate POLLS.
Prove it, show us evidence that says that. And don't copy n paste some Right wing conservative link or blog either.
There are two other possible scenarios that work as well, but Ohio wins it for Romney. Jason, just deal with it. You have argued the same incorrect bs several times in this thread.........stop making up your facts. Man, you and Obama and your imaginary facts.
This would be a great time to remember that Romney wants to cut disaster relief from the Federal Budget because it's "Immoral".
..........and give it to the states. You should tell the whole story if you want people to know the facts.
You know the Obama campaign planned this storm all along, don't you? /sarcasm
Dave Ermold, yes they blame him for everything... Wouldn't be surprised if they blamed him for this...LOL! This would be a great time to remember that Romney wants to cut disaster relief... Go to Gawker . com for the complete video!
Pauletta Vaughn - Rachel Maddow put the video up last night as well. She also played quite possibly the last ads for the campaigns with Romney's ending with the lie about the "Italian" jeep maker sending jobs to China.
Everyone knows, and I'm positive that those in Detroit know as well, that the parts of all vehicles are manufactured among many different countries. ABC reports that 78% of Jeep parts are made in America. I own a Wrangler. It's an emblem of American culture. It's not going anywhere. But I also know that a lot of it's electronics are from European countries and Canada. Romney is just an outright liar. I wish more people would be more rational instead falling for such trash talk.
The Obama administration saved the American auto industry. I proudly own an American vehicle. At least better than half. I wonder what cars Romney drives and what countries they were manufactured in? The Cayman Islands? Germany?
Dave---Mitt has told us---he drives a Mustang and Ann has "a couple of Cadillacs". We don't know what the rest of those cars that need elevators are, though.
Well, you guys say that Bush caused Katrina, so Sandy is Obama's b****.
I am so sick of these idiot right wing nuts posting about Rasmussen Poll has Romney up. Most people with common sense and knows about politics knows Rasmussen is a Pro-Conservative pollster. I mean the guy is on Fox News at least once a week. He's on Hannity and O'reilly show the most.
If he damn poll was so accurate then what happen in 2008. Rasmussen didn't have Obama leading in most swing states, he had Mccain leading in OH, FL, VA and Tied in PA. What happen, Obama won all 4, I repeat, all 4 states and won them Huge.
How accurate is that for Rasmussen.
I am so sick of left-wing liberals like yourself.
Jason...Walgreens just called. Your meds are ready for pickup.
We understand Jason. Obama is losing and you're having a nervous breakdown. Relax. It will all be over soon.
jason -- you may have missed this information in response to an earlier comment from you about rasmussen.
jason -- interesting that you do not care about rasmussen polling. yes rasmussen does appear on fox regularly, a good question may be why the left leaning media do not ask him to appear. a review of the accuracy of the 2008 polling showed this:
Costas Panagopoulos of Fordham University, surveying 23 polling organizations, prepared a list showing which organizations were most accurate in their final poll before the 2008 election.
Two — Rasmussen Reports and the Pew Research Center — got the result dead right, Panagopoulos says. Of the other 21, 17 over-estimated support for Barack Obama, while just four said John McCain would receive a larger percentage of the vote than he actually did.
The big media organizations almost universally failed to give readers a final accurate prediction, with Newsweek coming in dead last, just behind polls for CBS/New York Times; Reuters/C-Span/Zogby and Gallup.
Polls carried out for Fox, NBC, ABC, the Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal were also all in the bottom half of Panagopoulos’ study.
Well billybob, I dont have time sit on FR all day long and post comments. But I will respond now,
Like I said before if Rasmussen was so accurate then why was his numbers off so bad in 2008. He predicted Mccain was going to win OH, FL, VA. You know why his numbers was off because they aint no Poll out there that is going to tell you how many VOTERS are going to show up and vote on election day. Heavy turn out wsa why Rasmussen Poll was not accurate.
And to brian and the other Obama haters, keep on talking. You got 7 more days to talk and then your little feelings gonna be hurt after Obama is re-elected. I wish u would come on FR on Nov 7th brian. I'll be waiting..
Jason,
See post below. Just because you repeat a lie frequently that doesn't make it true. The only time anyone had McCain up in these states was for a few days following his vp pick. Argue if you will, but stop making stuff up.
Bye BO, Bye BO, back to Chicago you go!!!!!!!!! Here is a fun fact for you libtards, IT IS ILLEGAL TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE ELECTION. But that hasn't stopped your DICKtator in chief before right?
If Bush et al can use the Supreme Court to win an election, why would Obama not be able to extend voting due to a legitimate situation?
C.H. - psst...your desperation is showing
sedgwickgrad - How long would you like to extend the voting for? Until 2016 perhaps? I can guarantee that if this storm had hit Texas liberals would be singing a different tune.
How 'bout until those affected can return to their usual voting locations, so they can actually vote?
Would that work for you?
The vote is a week away.......it'll be fine.....chill out sedg.
At least I know how to spell 'whiney.' Had to learn in order to decipher some comments herein.
Not allowing extra, unhindered voting for those areas affected means potentially millions of votes will not be cast.
That would be un-American, if not illegal.
I seriously doubt any voters will be denied a chance to vote, even if they have to resort to manual ballots and make-shift polling places. Serious voters will find a way. Unfortunately for Obama, most of his base are not self-motivators.
Very whiney...must be a liberal. The date is set. Go vote.
"The show must go on"(queue circus music)
Most serious voters who want Obama gone, conservatives and angry independents, have already voted. Most of remaining voters are the 47%. They're not that excited about Obama to start with. Having to salvage belongings and seek alternative shelter won't help the 47% turnout.
Polls do not vote! The people do. Get out and vote.
If it means anything, the Democratic party is ahead in most early voting places. I don't think that's a negative sign for Obama.
Unless of course you bring in nasty old facts. At this point in the election and early voting in 2008, there were 21% more Democrat votes in the early voting than today.
You're kidding right? Just TODAY Gallup says Romney leads Obama 52% to 45% in early voting. Where do you get your statistics? Demwits Today???
Also remember that these numbers only come from polls...they are not actually counting anything yet, so they still don't know. And, liberals tend to respond more to polls.....has something to do with how smart they think they are.
This storm just proved why early voting is needed. Not suppressed like the Ohio Secretary of State tried to do.
Jeff-1592116, You lied on Romney's FEMA:
This is all pure partisan nonsense. Here is what Romney did say at the 2011 Republican debate in Manchester, New Hampshire:
At no point did Romney ever say FEMA was “immoral” or that he wanted to abolish it. What he did say is that we should ask ourselves what FEMA should and shouldn’t be doing, and then only pay for what’s needed.
The Huffington Post‘s Ryan Grim, formerly a marijuana legalization activist, wrote an article Sunday claiming that Mitt Romney wanted to “shutter” the Federal Emergency Management Agency. The New York Times followed suit later Monday writing an editorial claiming Romney once called FEMA “immoral.”
You leftists need to get your REAL news from some where other than MSNBC, Huffington Post and Media Matters. Those are not REAL sources and are only the propaganda sites for the Democrat Socialist Party
As a liberal I would relish a Romney win for one reason. Once he crushes the middle class and Americans rise up in a bloody revolution, the Republican party will be no more. Bring it on...it's about time.
Put down your bong dad. I feel sorry for your kids.
us republicans have guns, i think we would win a revolution dude. bring it on we are locked and loaded.
uhhh bipolar...I have guns too. If you think Republicans are the only ones who hunt, conceal and carry and protect their homes...you are obviously going to be at a disadvantage when the SHTF.
with hundreds of militias all over america,who have been ready and training for a revolution and dems are anti gun.pretty sure we have the advantage and i do not think you even oun a slingshot,if you do you are the only one.
Uhhh, just to be the sound of reason here, I am voting for R&R and have no gun. Voting for a Republican does not make you a militant honky.
2012 Electoral College Scoreboard
Rasmussen Reports - Electoral College Breakdown
Safe Romney
167
Likely Romney
21
Leans Romney
18
Toss-up
95
Leans Obama
37
Likely Obama
28
Safe Obama
172
If Rasmussen Poll was so accurate then what happen in 2008. Rasmussen didn't have Obama leading in most swing states, he had Mccain leading in OH, FL, VA and Tied in PA. What happen, Obama won all 4, I repeat, all 4 states and won them Huge.
How accurate is that for a Rasmussen Poll.
I have a better way to give analysis. See you in here on November 7th. I have a good feeling you'll be reeling over the numbers
Jason, you not being honest. McCain led for only a few days following his VP announcement. Not at any other time. Rasmussen, like it or not, has a proven track record.