We sure won't hear Romney telling everyone exactly how much money he made because of the auto bailouts. I think it is somewhere in the $8 million dollar range.

Go Get 'Em, Joe!

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton, accused Romney of "pirouettes more than a ballerina" on his auto industry stances and called the ad "an absolutely patently false assertion."

RMAOFL,

MYTH does have some strange moves. I rather he just stick to horses, bayonetts, & binders full of women.

The more MYTH lets that LYIN a** video stay up the less people of Ohio and this nation want to see your LYIN a**.

If I remember right, the US MADE money on the auto bailout. Why? Because they paid back the loans WITH interest!!

sirie - Jeep has confirmed they will build jeeps for China in China - they have no plans to move production from the US. Please, keep up!

Obama/Biden 2012

Obama's record on the auto industry bailout is largely credited for buoying his poll numbers in swing state Ohio, a firewall Romney is eager to burn lie through.

There, I fixed it. No need to thank me, it was my pleasure. After all, Mitt Romney has made a career, and an awful lot money, lying his way to the top. Why stop now.

If you have 15 minutes you sould watch this MSNBC video analyzing Romneys blatant lies that questions his integrity and trust...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZFv1S-1vt1E

In many states, state colleges and universities are having to raise tuition to make ends meet because of tighter state budgets.

And yet, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan want to turn EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO THE STATES TO SHRINK GOVERNMENT.

What do you think? That the States have unlimited amount of resources for that too? Schools, Education? and everything else? HOW ABOUT FEMA???? Because he is thinking in doing that too. JUST LIKE THE FEUDAL SYSTEM, ROMNEY WANTS TO TAKE US TO THE DARK AGES . THE ONLY THING REMAIN IS FOR HIM CALLING HIMSELF 'KING ROMNEY' AND HAVE 8 WIVES JUST LIKE KING HENRY VIII.

Maybe he already have the 8 wives.

Remember the best way to get a G.W. BUSH THIRD TERM is to VOTE ROMNEY!

Delphi Auto (major Romney investment) buys factories in China after firing 25K US workers

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/26/1150732/-Breaking-Delphi-Auto-a-Romney-investment-buys-factories-in-China-after-firing-25K-US-workers

Romney said ALL Jeep jobs will be lost and sent to China. And then the company had to come out and said that he is lying.

What about the company that Bain Capital owns in IL - made great profits this year and then they closed it, fired everyone, and shipped the jobs overseas. Romney made a lot of money for that action.

Romney sucks.

Obama/Biden 2012

"Mitt Romney's Bailout Bonanza: How He Made Millions From The Rescue of Detroit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwG_sBQU7OQ&feature=player_embedded
17 minutes.

Elise,

To quote this FR article, Romney's LIE is even BIGGER than that now.

Romney's LATEST LIE AD now claims that someone: " sold Chrysler to Italians, who are going to build Jeeps in China."

The big $$ right wing guys:

Are using Romney's inability to control his LIE MOUTH plus his narrow brain functioning, to do their bidding.

Romney would do well to lay off the Italians. He pissed that country off. They are not going to be too pleased when they hear him, in essence, smearing them and mixing them up in his lies.

Feisty - I'm pretty sure they'll keep Bush under wraps indefinitely. Remember, the family wants Jeb to run next election!

1funnygirl - first of all - you're not, even slightly. And, no matter what you say Bill Clinton is still THE MOST POPULAR EX-PRESIDENT ALIVE. If he could run again, he would win over anyone the GOP would run. Post all your nastiness, there are many Republicans who would vote for him. After all, all the Republicans that were working to get him impeached were having their own affairs - Starr, Gingrich, etc. It's the usual - do as I say, not as I do group of Hypocrites that are the Republican Party!

Obama/Biden 2012

AlaskaGirl-759554

Romney sucks Koch!

No, no, no Alaska Girl, it's Monica then insert Bill Clinto for Koch.

From 1funny, news flash Romney is a merman.

Romney is untrustworthy and unfit to be President. He'll be very depressed when he loses. Maybe he'll take that final trip to the planet Kolob.

Romney is an avoidable disaster.

Feisty ...

Since you mentioned Ann's concerns above, thought you might find this interesting ...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/29/secret-audio-puts-mitt-and-ann-romneys-favorite-family-story-in-question/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=0eb997fdbb-10_29_1210_29_2012&utm_medium=email

Sirie ...

How many threads have you posted this on today?

but BOO'ing GOD at your national convention, that's all good,

You've been answered so many times .... sheesh?

Squirrel????

Obama/Biden 2012

That's when Mitt Romney will be our new President

Yeah! From the STARBUTTS CLUB!!!!!

The Romney lies make me sick to the stomach, and to think that this man was a bishop in a major religious institution. The mormon church should excommunicate him. He is destroying their brand!!

He seems to have a mental issue, and it will become more and more apparent.

Yup, and his separation from reality becomes more evident every day!

No, no, no Alaska Girl, it's Monica then insert Bill Clinto for Koch.

Unless you would be so fortunate to be in Monica's shoes, I have NEWS FOR YOU:

Position The "other" Koch brother, Bill sold his stake in Koch
Industries to brothers David and Charles in the 1980s. He now runs Oxbow Carbon,
a global dealer in petroleum coke, a cement-manufacturing fuel that's high in
climate-warming carbon dioxide.
Age
72
Fortune $4 billion (Forbes 400 rank:
81)
Past Donations Koch and his wife gave $70,000 to House
Speaker John Boehner last year. Boehner "looks out for business interests," a
Koch deputy explained.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/right-wing-billionaires-behind-mitt-romney-20120524#ixzz2AjKQAADi

Alaska: Why on Earth would Romney care about what the Italians think of him? After all, he didn't have any qualms about insulting our closest and most important Ally, Britain; wasn't the least bit concerned about trampling all over the religious sensibilities of the French people by trying to convince them to convert to his chuch; or firing up the well- known xenophobic paranioa of the Russians by suggesting that they're an enemy who shouldn't be trusted. So who gives a rip for what the, uh, Grecians or Romans or whoever the heck they are thinks?

A man dies, goes to heaven, stands before St. Peter, and see a huge wall of clocks.
The man asks what all the clocks are for and St. Peter explains, "These are lie clocks. Everyone on earth has a lie clock.
Every time a person lies, the clock hands move."
Pointing to one, the man says, "Whose clock is that?"
"That's Mother Teresa's," St. Peter answers. "The hands have never moved, indicating she never told a lie."
"Incredible," the man responds. "And whose clock is that?"
St. Peter responds, "That's Abraham Lincoln's. The hands moved twice telling us he told two lies in his entire life."
"Where is Mitt Romney's clock?" the man asks.
"Romney's clock is in Jesus' office," St. Peter says. "He's using it as a ceiling fan."

FoxTrotsky ...

Didn't know if you saw this last week, but the other countries (well, except for that snarky little Pakistan!) are fully in favor of the President being re-elected and are probably doubting the sanity of anyone endorsing Romney ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20008687

Good lord people, you do know that this election is looked at around the world. People actually do care about Mitt & Co's constant lies to the public!

Obama/Biden 2012

ROFL... all the libbies have been totally set up by MSN... this is a complete diversion over the real issue of the day.. Benghazi. It appears as though the president did have involvement and made the decision to not send in the military to help protect our people and embassy. This is going to be very embarrassing to president coward. There just happened to be a C-130 Hercules on station and that one gun ship had painted targets tossing mortars into our buildings. That C-130 was told to stand down. Why would Obama do this? Why would he want our embassy attacked without protecting our people? Why would Obama want Americans to die? You libbies think like him... maybe you can answer the question.

Spanky: sorry, wrong and wrong. Bill Clinton was not convicted of anything, and he was not disbarred either.

You know the old saying, you are entitled to your own opinion but NOT your own facts.

And yes, the above poster was correct. While Clinton remains enormously popular (not only here, but around the globe), George W. Bush's complete, total absense from the GOP Convention AND the GOP primaries AND the GOP general election race, suggests the man is the most toxic ex-politico in modern American politics.

What a shame.

NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE BY MITT ROMNEY ON AUTO BAILOUT 11/19/2008 (LINK BELOW)

READ IT AND REALIZE OBAMA IS LYING TO YOU!!!! ABOUT EVERYTHING!

"The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html?_r=0

yeah roll out clinton dems and libs..you desperation is becoming more and more apparent every day....after all, let us remember that clinton is a convicted pervert and an accused rapist....who is waging war on women???

Democrats Lead in Early Vote in More States Than Republicans

after all, let us remember that clinton is a convicted pervert and an accused rapist...

In Wisconsin, Republican state Senator Randy Hopper, while claiming to still live with his wife, was actually living outside the district he represents with a much younger 25-year-old mistress.

NRCC uses a strip club named Forty Deuce in Las Vegas for fundraiser gatherings with Pete Sessions in attendance.

Mike Duval a Republican politician and a former member of the California State Assembly, resigned after his sex comments were broadcast in Sept. 2009. In the video, the married family-values crusader from Yorba Linda talks in graphic detail about women he said he slept with

Mark Sanford, Republican governor of South Carolina, disappears during Father's Day weekend, returning to confess an extramarital affair in Argentina

etc. etc.etc.

Say what????

Joe:

"It turns out, Jeep is reopening in China,"

Mitt:

and sold Chrysler to Italians, who are going to build Jeeps in China."

You just gotta love Joe for the dribble that comes out of his mouth. Actually agreeing with Mitt? That goverment kicked American's out of their jobs and those jobs will now reappear in China.

Since you mentioned Ann's concerns above, thought you might find this interesting ...

Layton,

More bull@!$%# dripping from them two's lips!

OH THE HORROR! lmao

Neither one of them could tell the truth if someone were to notarize their tongues!

It tells me they will need a new job after the election.

Speak for yourself. What kind of leech spends time "counting"people that vote on these vines?

Only someone that IS A BURDEN TO SOCIETY. GET A JOB AND STOP GETTING A WELFARE CHECK!!!!!

Romney will lie out his teeth, that's what sociopaths do...

Is
Romney A Sociopath?

Posted on07 September 2012. Tags: Romney,
Sociopath

1. Ryan claimed that President Obama
“took” $716 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare and that he and Romney will
“protect” Medicare. But Obama did not “take” any funds from Medicare. He
achieved savings in the program by lowering future reimbursement rates to
medical providers, like doctors and hospitals. People on Medicare today and in
the future will not be affected by the cuts. Ryan also failed to acknowledge
that his own budget plan envisions a similar $700 billion savings from
Medicare. He also proposes to privatize Medicare and replace it with a voucher
system in which seniors will have to use vouchers to buy private health
insurance.

2. Ryan again criticized the Obama stimulus package, but didn’t acknowledge
that he lobbied the Obama administration for stimulus funds for his own
Congressional district.

3. Romney criticized Obama for government bailouts, but didn’t acknowledge that
one of his companies, Bain Capital, would have collapsed were it not for a $10
million federal bailout.

4. Ryan blamed Obama for the closure of a GM plant in Ryan’s district in
Wisconsin, but Ryan knows that the plant closed during the Bush administration.
Ryan also criticized Obama for the auto bailout without acknowledging that he
also voted for the auto bailout. Ryan also didn’t acknowledge that the auto
bailout saved the US auto industry, and that Romney had proposed allowing the
industry to go bankrupt.

5. Ryan blamed the credit downgrade of the US government on Obama, when S&P
stated it was in part because the federal government had not raised taxes — tax
increases that Ryan and his fellow GOP representatives have steadfastly refused
to vote for.

6. Ryan criticized Obama for not embracing the recommendations of the
bipartisan Simpson-Bowles debt commission. Ryan, however, did not acknowledge
that he was a member of that commission and voted against its recommendations.

7. Ryan criticized Obama for not balancing the federal budget, but did not
acknowledge that his own budget plan doesn’t envision a balanced budget for at
least twenty years.

8. Romney and Ryan repeated the lie that Obama said in a speech that small
business owners did not “build” their own businesses. Obama said that business
owners throughout the country are helped by the fact that government builds
roads that the businesses and their employees use and operates schools that
educate future workers.

9. Romney and Ryan criticized Obama for the failure of some small businesses
during his administration, effectively saying that it’s okay to blame the
government if a business fails, but it’s not okay for the government to take
some credit when it succeeds.

10. Romney and Ryan blamed Obama for not accomplishing more during his first
term, but failed to acknowledge that Republicans in Congress attempted to block
or actually blocked nearly all of Obama’s initiatives.

11. Romney said that Obama embarked on an “apology tour” around the world
immediately after taking office, but Obama never once apologized for America’s
behavior to anyone.

12. Romney claimed that Obama raised taxes on the middle class, but Obama has
raised no taxes during his administration.

13. Romney claimed that when he ran Bain Capital, it “helped” companies save
jobs, when, in fact, Bain Capital’s typical business practice was to saddle
companies it took over with huge amounts of debt and outrageous “management
fees,” thereby forcing the companies to lay off thousands of workers.

14. In a TV-ad barrage, Romney and Ryan say Obama eliminated the work
requirements in welfare. The president did not; he allowed states to relax the
requirements, but only if they could show that more welfare recipients in their
states were actually getting jobs.

Coutesy of Robert Gammon

1funkygirl:

Proud of our cleavage are we?

Romney lying? Not really. On planet Romney your audience determines your reality. So what ever they want to hear you say is what you tell them. The next group may be 180 degrees opposite but remember, it's planet Romney and your audience determines what you think.

Clinton (a married man) lied about having an affair. Shocking! Never heard anything of the sort before.

I have problems with Clinton's Administration but that is mostly concerning letting NAFTA go through. The Republicans spent $50 million investigating the Clinton's and basically came up empty. Meanwhile the 50 FBI agents spending time chasing Republican fantasies could have been investigating Muslims that overstayed their visa's and where taking flight lessons at a rinky dink flight school and the overstaying students were unconcerned with how to take off or land the plane. Even when the flight instructor thought it was fishy but they didn't have the time to investigate it because the RWNJ's were concerned that Bill got a BJ (jealous?) and lied about it because he's a married man.

BTW the Romney/Ryan ticket would stink like a bucket of carp left out in the hot summer sun all day no matter how often they flip flopped about their positions.

O & Joe 2012

Romney? still waiting on the 1040's

Spanky-

And as if the lying wasn't bad enough, there is always the fact he cheated on Hillary, and got busy with a 20 year old girl and a cigar.

Hey Spanky...is that a moniker or a pass time? By the way, I believe 18 is the age of consent in most states. Only a Republican would consider getting over 4,000 American Service Members killed for political gain less immoral than consensual sex between adults. You are some sick puppies.

Brian,

real issue of the day.. benghazi? non issue.

Look at the news. Oh liberals conjured up a huge storm to make Republicans look bad. sarc.

Rasmussen and the ohio governor giving Romney an edge so when the voting records are changed in the middle of the night, they can point to their previous position for legitimacy.

Neither one of them could tell the truth if someone were to notarize their tongues!

Ew! White man speak with forked tongue. Hard to notarize that... I'm just sayin.

Rasmussen and the ohio governor giving Romney an edge so when the voting records are changed in the middle of the night, they can point to their previous position for legitimacy.

Would love to see those dweebs caught red handed. I have no doubt what you are saying is true. Thick as thieves.

Because there is no way they can win on the puffed up agenda they promote. So they have to cheat. Anyone feeling good about being a GOP. Never mind. That would take a conscience.

Just_D_Facts

First of all there was no private capital available to restructure the industry. Romney only called for post-bankruptcy financing guarantees from the Government!

But you forgot Romney's Opening Statement:

IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed.

Looks like Romney lied and the Industry is ALIVE

Obama2012

Bush/Romney NEVER AGAIN

I have problems with Clinton's Administration but that is mostly concerning letting NAFTA go through.

NAFTA was not the brainchild of the Clinton administration. In fact it was first introduced while Reagan was in office. He supported it, as did GHW Bush. It would have went through no matter who was in office.

Say Seeking who is the bigger lying liar head that has garnered your vote?

Billy C. and his 'I did not have...sexual relations..with that woman...'

Or Jonny Edwards, who you of course voted for in 2004?

Gawd - don't you just hate liars? And man, these particular liars sure do treat women terribly. How many affairs has Billy C. had? How many cigars has he jabbed into a woman? ANd Jonny E. - cheating on his wife, herself on her death bed.

Disgusting.

But they got your support and love, don't they.

Say, do you hate women as well there Seeking?

Barry and Joe in a hissy fit over an attack ad? lol! Those two guts wrote the book on meaningless attack ads that rarely mention any "Forward" plans! lol Just a couple of guys desperate to keep jobs they are not qualified for.....!

Obama promises to 'get better' in a second term! He would have to perform miracles to do that based on his first 4! And Sleepy Joe! How many of you really feel comfortable that he is a 'heartbeat away from the presidency"?

I would like to take this time to thank Feisty Redwig, Bev, Backhouse, and the others for doing more to get Obama supporters to switch over to Mitt than any TV ad could do! Thank you girls... fine job! And pretty soon you'll all be looking for jobs when obama bucks stop flowing...... hehe!

The only happy guy in the house is Jimmy Carter, who can finally drop the reputation as worst 1 term president.

It would seem that governors are praising the FEMA that President Obama has brought back from the wreck that "Hell of a job" Brownie made of it. Christie has praised the president and so have the governors of other states. Obama is the president we need when a crisis hit.

Meanwhile, Romney just sits on his hands while the president acts. It doesn't stop him from spewing more lies about Jeep in his latest ads. Isn't this the time to stop lying? Give it a rest Romney!

Sandy's eye should be passing over my head in a couple of hours, and I feel better about how the president is handling it than Romney would. Of course, Romney would privatize FEMA. How can you run a for profit organization in such a role and have it NOT cost more and have NOT have it effectiveness cut to the bone for profit's sake?

Obama/Biden 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Magic tonic,

That's pretty rich, considering you were only hired by karl Rove on Oct 11,2012. TROLL

Romney lies. A lot! 533 times in 30 weeks. That is over 2 lies a day! Why would anyone choose to believe him?

Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them

Steve Benen lies more than Obama... and that's saying a lot! Where do you guys get this crap?

EARLY VOTING

IOWA: Dem 45.4% Rep 31.9%

NCAROLINA Dem 49.5% Rep 31.1%,

NEVADA Dem 45.4% Rep 37.2%

--------------

Total Circulation Of Newspaper Endorsements (Obama 33 vs Mitt: 27):

Obama 8,785,527 vs Romney: 4,902,794

Dean, buddy - What's up with your obsession with Jen Psaki? Have you and 1funnygirl met? Practically every one of your posts refers to Jen Psaki. You aren't one of those conspiracy theory right wingers who think Feisty is Jen Psaki, are you?

I wonder if Obama fired Jen Psaki yet. With his campaign going down the drain he needs to rethink his hate based campaign

Spanky: you just lost any respect I might have had for you.

Before you write falsehoods, you really should look up your facts.

President Clinton was impeached (the equivalent of an indictment) but he was acquitted in the the Senate.

He has never been tried in any court.

He voluntarily agreed to have his license suspended from both the Arkansas and Supreme Court.

The only President to actually be disbarred, permanently, was a Republican, Richard Nixon. For Republicans convictions, just go through the Nixon and Reagan administration rosters of convicts.

Feisty ...

GREAT COMMENT!

Neither one of them could tell the truth if someone were to notarize their tongues!

Oh good lord ... isn't that the TRUTH!

Obama/Biden 2012

Electoral vote predictions 10/28: (270 needed to win)

RealClearPolitics: O 290 – R 248

Pollster/ HuffPost: O 277 – R 206

Princeton Election Consortium: O 300 – R 238

AP: O 271 - R 206

538/NYT: O 295.5 – R 242.5

Electoral Vote: O 284 - R 235

270 to Win: O 294 - R 244

Intrade Electoral Map Forecast: O 281 - R 257

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/28/1151812/-Polling-Sites-Agree-Obama-Headed-For-A-Win

You aren't one of those conspiracy theory right wingers who think Feisty is Jen Psaki, are you?

Kim, darling... IGNORE him... I do!

I do SO love all of these right wing nitwits who are begging for membership in the Feisty Fan Club!

If the trolls want to eat, let them work for it! lol

One has to wonder that, with all the staff hovering around Romney, why they can't designate at least one of them to verify the accuracy and truthfulness of what Mitt or anyone on his staff is going to say...BEFORE they say it?

Jeep came out immediately after Romney pedaled that falsehood and refuted it, but yet the R&R campaign is still trying to sell it as gospel.

Here's a toss-up question, Mitt...the sun comes up in which quadrant? You (or your staff) only get one chance to answer it correctly, and given your track record for accuracy, you'd better do some research...BEFORE you respond.

BO 2012

EARLY VOTING

IOWA: Dem 45.4% Rep 31.9%

NCAROLINA Dem 49.5% Rep 31.1%,

NEVADA Dem 45.4% Rep 37.2%

and yet the election will still be held on Nov 6th. bummer huh.

Latest Polls

POLLSTERDATESPOP.OBAMAROMNEYUNDECIDEDMARGIN

Rasmussen NEW!
Romney +2

PPP (D)
Obama +4

Gravis Marketing
Obama +1

ARG
Obama +2

CNN
Obama +4

Purple Strategies
Obama +2

Rasmussen
-

Time
Obama +5

Lake Research (D-USAction)
Obama +2

Ohio Newspaper Organization/University of Cincinnati
-

SurveyUSA
Obama +3

Pharos Research Group
Obama +5

Suffolk
-

Angus-Reid
-

PPP (D)
Obama +1

Quinnipiac/CBS
Obama +5

Gravis Marketing
-

FOX
Obama +3

Rasmussen
Obama +1

Pulse Opinion Research/Let Freedom Ring (R)
Romney +1

SurveyUSA
Obama +3

PPP (D)
Obama +5

well obama has some work to do then. last count showed him at 510

Feisty - Who are these people?!! I haven't been around much lately but I am amazed that the right just seems to be disengaging from reality in alarming numbers - just like their candidate.

Who are these people?!!

Kim,

They are hateful, fear mongering, bigots!

Which is the reason, I ignore the majority of them! Although, some are fun to poke with a stick! ;o) They get all bitchy! lmao

We have an election to win, we must NOT get tangled up in their web of deceit & deception!

PS: The majority of them will be NO where to be found on 11.7.12! Thank YOU Jaysus!

Old Doc,

You mean CONGRESS is the one that approved the Iraq war...somehow you on the left keep forgetting that...

Actually the biggest load of bull is the ex president and sexual predator Bill Clinton. Wonder how bad off you have to be to want a sexual predator as a spokes person.

At least Hillary says he got treatment for it. I guess that's progress.

Is This Why Romney Won't Talk To Sensata Workers Whose Jobs Are Being Shipped To China?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2012104110/why-romney-wont-talk-sensata-workers-whose-jobs-are-being-shipped-china

Wanna talk about lay offs? How about the tens of thousands who Obama is going to lay off cuz of defense cuts. Guess being a hypocrite is ok if your a dumbocrat.

Why an Electoral Landslide Could be Headed Obama's Way

The election is not actually on November 6. Rather, the election ends on November 6. The election is now. Millions of Americans are casting early ballots, and in record setting numbers that seem to already be blowing past the previous records set in 2008.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/10/why-obama-landslide-is-more-than.html

Eyes Wide,

The Romney Campaign relies on the premise that:

You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Who are these people?!!

Kim,

They are hateful, fear mongering, bigots!

yep because Feisty isnt that way. just look at her posting history, oh wait something to hide methinks. Thats right Feisty has pprerogatives, you know code for IMA HYPOCRITE. thats ok I always like it when Feisty talks about Romney's 'Magic Underwear' because there is no bigotry in that.

FEISTY = FAIL. now i expect Kim to chime in with Im smarter than you so STFU deal

Pullmy,

You don't remember how the sequestration came about, do you. Give you a hint TP and I don't mean toilet paper.

Battleground Tracking Poll: President Obama retakes lead...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82986.html

Feisty ...

They are hateful, fear mongering, bigots!

They are and when they continue their spew off of the FR boards, they keep getting caught with their pants down. Good lord could any of them say anything positive about their candidate? They are so consumed with hatred that I'm sure all of them have high blood pressure, out of the world cholesterol counts, and parents who yell down the stairs asking them to take off the tin foil hat because it's time for dinner!

Obama/Biden 2012

x

Romney is the most disgusting piece of scum I have ever seen. Lies about Jeep moving to China that Jeep denies. Saying he never said he would end FEMA and then seeing the 2011 debate video of him saying just that! What a liar crock of manure!

The big question is... Why Romney and Ryan lie so much?

The NYTimes speculates that it is because the current set of facts about the world and the US economy are not sufficient to un-elect the President.
To win they would have to make things up to make them seem worse than they are.
There could be an element of this...
...their politics has placed protecting the privilege of elites over all other concerns and considerations.

http://ndn.org/blog/2012/08/why-romney-and-ryans-lies-matter

Good observation BO 2012.

Priceless quote from Romney's pollster:

“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” Romney’s pollster, Neil Newhouse, said.

Because they don't dare! LOL.

Caesar,

I find it very difficult to take someone seriously when they believe that God lives on the planet Kolob. A failed treasure hunter has an idea. Golden tablets which no one is allowed to ever see, turn out to be a way to get 10% of the income of everyone you can convince that God gave them to you. Great business model, especially with the tax free status.

Pro-Obama Superpac releases "Romnopoloy" Ad.

http://nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/pro-obama-super-pac-releases-ohio-ad-20121029

Layton, I appreciate your posts.

They are and when they continue their spew off of the FR boards, they keep getting caught with their pants down

Kim,

I'll take a pass seeing them with their little "dicky-do's" dangling & exposed! lol There is only SO much a girl can take in an evening!

ON NOES! Mr. Magic has been banned yet again! LMFAO! Newsvine finally caught up with Mr. Vermilion Sky and all the rest of his alias!

Exclusive:

Unreleased Romney trust tax returns obtained by Bloomberg show another shelter...

"Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-29/romney-avoids-taxes-via-loophole-cutting-mormon-donations.html

Ed-2874315

Thank you!

Hope you're not on the East Coast and if so ... stay on higher ground!

Obama/Biden 2012

Romney to Business Crowd: Obama Sees You As an "Evil"

The GOP candidate—and his wife—are caught on tape at a private fundraiser dismissing the president as not a "grown-up" and an arch foe of
commerce.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/romney-fundraiser-obama-business-evil

By Wednesday afternoon the Obama administration will have an ad out calling Romney on his callous, lying ad placed while Americans are struggling to save their lives and property. If he says he is putting his campaign on hold, he should put this ad on ice for good. It is a mark of the desparation he is resorting to to make a point. A God fearing man should not be lying to gain the highest office in the land, which he is doing routinely and constantly. This man doesn't deserve to win. God help us and forgive us if he does.

Obama/Biden 2012!!!

Thanks Layton,

I'll get wet, but it will have worn down a little by then.

Romney campaign “hindering” and “impeding” Hurricane Sandy relief

http://americablog.com/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-romney-relief-red-cross.html

In 4 decades+ of politics and presidential politics, this POS is the biggest and most egregious liar I have ever seen. As much as he lies, he should get better at it but he doesn't. He is very transparent. All the more shameless becuase he would have us believe that he's a Christian. He even makes Santoum look good. What a lying SOB...absolutely without shame or conscience.

The liberal hate is as disgusting as it is poisonous. Mitt Romney is not wrong, he is simply using the same lying tactics Obama has used since he began his first run for office. Fighting fire with fire.

As for Chrysler, they build lots of "American" cars in Canada.

But that doesn't fit with the rancid hate-filled liberal mantra.

What is laughable is that these online ding dongs actually think Obama is going to win.

I'll be watching for your "shocked face" on November 6th, as the drubbing will be early and final.

Neither side tells the whole truth. Both sides distort what is said.

If you are for Rom, everything Obam says and does is bad. If you are for Obam, everything Rom says and does is bad.

Grow up America.

The real liars are the repugnicans like you who defend Mutt's provably false assertions.

Yep, the Progressives (Liberals~Democrats) really think everything Mr. Obama says is true.

FLASHBACK to the 2008 campaign and Mr. Obama's 7 lies in less than 2 minutes:

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0

FLASHFORWARD to Benghazi:

• "I will make public every bit of information we receive on the Benghazi attack spurned by that video."

Typical Progressives who have voted and will vote for Mr. Obama, know nothing about politics, and are completely UNINFORMED:

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCXot2HQT00&feature=related

Wow Bo - that is a very revealing article. It begs the question, Is Mitt running for president or is Queen Ann? She certainly has no qualms in feeling entitled.

I wanted to talk it over with her. And every time I'd say, "Let's talk about the pros and cons," she'd say, "Talk to the hand, talk to the hand. We're just doing this. We've got to do it." And so she absolutely insisted that I get in this because she was convinced that I was the only one that had the capacity to beat President Obama. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/romney-fundraiser-obama-business-evil

Of course, no Queen Ann statement, the modern day equivalent of Anita Bryant with her plastic blond Barbie hair, can go without a her usual snippy quip. I have to love this follow up from the blond bombshell wannabe.

So I'm glad…Mitt is grown up to you all.

The GOP Party will do and say anything from deep in the trenches in order to win a race with dishonesty and without integrity.

Isn't it funny how Tag Romney has bought voting computers for 8 different states??? (such as : Ohio, Florida, etc., etc.) Need I say any more?

Voting machines should be eliminated, and instead use a paper trail with serial # ID's on absentee ballots through the mail. The ballots and counting should be done on one nationwide tracking system. Voter Registration should still be required as well, but prior to 90 days before an election for free. Eliminating costly (plus possibly doctored) voting machines could save the states a lot of money as-well-as inexperienced, or corrupt help.

GET OUT and VOTE for STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET ACROSS the BOARD !!

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN on NOV. 6, 2012 (if not earlier) !! Don't let the "True to Vote" (a Republican Organization) stalkers intimidate you at the polls. In the first place they are not supposed to be there.

Stay safe Eastern States during the bad storm!!

It's amusing reading the little Libbies comments about Barrack Hussein saving the "auto industry".

He didn't save an industry.

He saved 2 auto manufacturers that by all rights should have been allowed to collapse. Chrysler already suffered bankruptcy in the 80's and never had more than its fan base support afterwards.

GM had been hemorrhaging since 2000 under incompetent leadership and distorted vision. Rick Wagner single handedly drove the company to insolvency by methodically selling off its assets to fatten up the bottom line to insure his, and his cronies, salaries and performance bonuses didn't suffer.

The auto industry was doing fine otherwise. Obviously Ford, Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes, KIA and others were affected by the recession but not to the level of GM and Chrysler who were simply results of incompetent management and bad marketing decisions.

Today we are no longer just the "Big Three" in its historic sense. The US auto industry is an amalgam of domestic and foreign manufacturers. The Big Three is not even a true description as Chrysler is now a foreign company owned by Italy's Fiat.

By the way, I hope all you "anti-outsourcers" appreciate the level of outsourcing these foreign companies have done to bring all these jobs to the United States. Maybe someday you'll understand the need and benefit of outsourcing in the 21st century economies.

GM should have and could have gone through a LEGAL Chapter 11 bankruptcy under the rule of law. The fact that first Bush and then Barrack Hussein abrogated the purpose and structure of the TARP bailouts should be alarming to even the staunchest Liberal Constitution haters. Barrack Hussein, being an alleged Constitutional scholar, should have seen this and disallowed it. His Constitutional usurpations have been many unfortunately.

The notion that credit was "frozen" is nonsense. As Romney stated, all the government had to do was to back the investors that would have been screaming to be a part of restructuring 2 companies like GM or Chrysler and the process would have been complete. If it was so impossible, how did Fiat buy Chrysler? They would have done it with government money or money from banks backed by the government.

The big difference would have been the fact that in a legal bankruptcy, the laws established would have been enforced. Rightful creditors and bond holders would have been made whole rather than crony unions and their bloated pensions. Maintaining contractual agreements is one of the federal governments Enumerated Powers. This was not only ignored, it was violated.

Yes, George Bush and Barrack Hussein saved GM, they DID NOT save an industry. Ford is the better company, Chrysler is a foreign company now and GM will continue to struggle under the mandates of government ideology rather than market forces. The abysmal failure of the Chevy Volt is proof of the governments incompetence. Forcing "green" products on uninterested consumers will never fix GM.

GM, still owes US taxpayers over $42 Billion. $27 billion is owed on the nearly $50 billion it received from the auto bailout and Ally Bank, the company’s lending arm, owes $14.7 billion of the $17.2 billion taxpayer-funded bailout it received.

GM has posted profits of $4.7 billion in 2010 and $7.6 billion in 2011, where is the tax-payers portion of those profits? When will GM start repaying its outstanding debt? Profits have fallen 41% this last quarter. GM’s developments of models that will reach the new CAFÉ standards are less than promising.

GM shares are currently trading at $23 a share. In order to recover our investment GM shares need to trade at greater than $53. This could take decades.

Consumer Reports magazine's "predicted reliability" ranking announced Monday showed all four Chrysler brands in the bottom half of the 28 brands rated.

Jeep was the top Chrysler nameplate, at 19th. Chrysler, Dodge and Ram clustered at 23rd through 25th.

Unfortunately for Chrysler Group, that reinforces a stereotype that Detroit brands generally, and Chrysler's in particular, have trouble matching the best overseas makes.

An auto company wasn’t saved, it was given a second chance. History is not on GM’s side. The question is, how badly taxpayers and future Constitutional decisions will be affected?

The simplest solution is to not give Barrack Hussein any further chances to abuse the rule of law for his cronies and the unions.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

JK,

Yes the Republican-controlled congress passed the Iraq war. The Republican-controlled congress planned for the Iraq war in the late 1990s with the bill they passed which Clinton signed under the duress of their impeachment stating that the US should do "regime change" in all Middle Eastern countries not friendly to US policies in the Middle East or "vital interests" there. (Hmmm, wonder what the vital interests were?)

The Republican party is now the big warmonger, Neocon party wanting to increase military spending greatly again when not needed and bring us more wars like Iraq, only worse.

Better get a grip on reality...in the next two days it is expected that Fiat will announce not only will Jeep be made over seas, but Chrysler as well. Oh yeah, they are going to be sold into North America as well!

Romney will say anything, absolutely anything to win, it seems."

They just hate when somebody uses a page out of the democratic campaign game plan.

Under duress?? Are you serious?? So are you saying now that not only Clinton perjured himself in front of America he was also spineless? And last I checked, there were PLENTY of Democrats that lined up and voted as well. And let's take a second and see how many lives are being lost in Afghanistan? Last I checked, citizen, more US soldiers have been lost in Afghanistan since Obama has been in office than in all the years that Bush was in office. So who is the warmonger? And if you want to parade out that tired old line that "Obama pulled out of Iraq", just remember, that troop pullout plan was already planned while Bush was in office.

So at the end of the day, your party on the left wants to absolve itself of the wars in the middle east, when in fact they are up to their eyes in them and yet they still want to blame the other party. That is why the vast majority of Americans loath the party on the left.

I'm glad the polls are shifting back Obama's way, and they are, by a couple of points in almost all major polls (other than the GOP shill, Rasmussen). But more importantly, this latest line of attack by Romney is embarrassing lying. Most liars would eschew such pathetic black is white and white is black stuff. There would be some nuance. Romney is literally out there saying his bankruptcy for the auto industry would have been better. And then he tries to paint Obama's support of Chrysler as part of some cabal to aid the Chinese. Romney is finally, at long last, a complete and total whore. I mean he would have sex with any sailor in town to win this thing. I am so tired of his bobbing head. The more he gets all animated, the more he is working up the courage to lie. There is no shame. Where is the media on this stuff? Romney makes Richard Nixon look like Gandhi. And Romney has ALWAYS BEEN A LYING WHORE. If his spinning head were anything new, then I might see some reticence on the part of the media to label him a complete whore, but we have seen this stuff so many times with him.

Beyond,

You might want to view the steaming pile of a commercial that Obama released saying the HE created 5.2mm jobs... Now that is a BLATANT LIE!! (and has been proven to be an outright lie by factcheck.org) But for someone that lies every day in office, its easy to confuse truth from fiction. Fortunately, the vast majority of Americans have finally awoken from the haze of the last four years and have realized there is a choice between the failure of the last four years... And you are sadly misinformed with the polls as most (with the exception of the NBC/DNC cheerleading squad) show Romney with a slight lead. But I'm sure that what Romney wins, there will be the deafening chorus from the left about voter suppression and all the other lame excuses that use to justify that their candidate was not the right person for the White House.

Watching Fox news? You think that Obama is lying, clearly Obama seems to not do it as obvious as Mitt Romney. Romney and someone in his team manipulated the Obama speech to give the impression of bad policies. That is R&R dishonesty. Is a matter of trust, if R&R can not be honest in the campaign trail, what is to say they are going to keep the promises they are making to all American Citizens once they get into office. Only a dummy will put R&R in the white house. Don't run to the Benghazi incident. While it is tragic that we loss our citizens there, get a clue, the host country is the one responsible for providing the heavy fire power security (i.e. rapid response force) when diplomats are threaten by superior fire power, quit blaming Obama. If you disagree with me, then answer this, how many nations have heavy fire power (i.e. rapid response team) off our coast ready to protect their diplomats? 0

This is the witching hour in the Rove Play Book. Time for the rash of big lies since it's too late to refute... put doubt in the voter's minds, support with the FOX liar team, then criticize the opposition for being negative. These people have no ethics.

I've always wondered about this... how does one reconcile so-called "strong religious beliefs" with running an ethics-free campaign? Maybe THAT's what Romney means by separation of church and state?

The facts are simple.

Chrysler is opening manufacturing in China to make cars FOR China while moving forward with Jeep expansion plans in the U.S.A.

But regardless of what they are deciding today, which is out of Obama's hands anyway, Chrysler would not be here today if Obama hadn't made the bold move to finance the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies.

Mitt supported a managed bankruptcy for the auto industry. He supported government guarantees. He DID NOT support direct government financing, which is all that was left to save the industry. Without that government financing, GM and Chrysler may well have been liquidated.

So that's the truth. Romney twists and turns and lies and cheats to try to pander to Ohio and those that recognize the auto industry's importance.

The real question is; What would Romney have done in Obama's place? You can bet $10,000 that he would have let them fail. No doubt. His handlers would have it no other way. He wouldn't have the balls to put government money in the game... because... after all... that would be Socialism.

JimSpence (Post #1.130)

To quote you:

"NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th."

How ignorant can Rethuglicans be? The election Day is Tuesday, November 6, 2012 and not on Wednesday, November 7, 2012.

An Independent Thinker

How ignorant can Rethuglicans be? The election Day is Tuesday, November 6, 2012 and not on Wednesday, November 7, 2012.

Mr. Thinker, didn't you hear? They changed it this year.

All Republicans, Conservatives, Independents and other real Americans vote on Nov. 6.

All Democrats, Liberals, Progressives and other slow people vote Nov. 7.

Honest.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

I remember every election since Ike in 1952. All candidates stretch the truth but this Romney fool lies more than all them combined in my lifetime. He will say anything, tell any tie, take any position on any issue at any time. He stands for NOTHING. He's more phony than those TV preachers we see.

JimSpence

You think you're funny.

In fact, what you're doing is serious sh!t.

Mislead one person and you're all-in for voter fraud.

Here first hand what Guiliani, Gingrich, and other GOP members have to say about Mitt Romney! Need to watch till end for the big surprise. Enjoy and vote responsibly.

Google: www. 570wkbn.com "This would make a Great Ad for Obama" by Ron Verb........hope you find it cause this is good.

/www.570wkbn.com/pages/pp_ronverb.html?

article=10521520#.UIiYK3jWe2E.email

LMarcT

ROTFLMAO!!!!

GO AWAY!

Oh yeah, it's another one of those right wing conspiracies in your alleged mind, isn't it?

If you and Independent Thinker are that dense that you can't understand this joke used EVERY election cycle, his and your indoctrination is complete.

But then again in your typical petrified Liberal/Progressive minds you can't comprehend anything unless it's dictated to you by the government.

It must be so dark and dank in the Liberal mind.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.*

* Just kidding for Independent Thinker and LMarcT

Saturday, October 27, 2012

Republican Newt Gingrich Warned Voters About Lying Mitt Romney Saying, "He Will Lie, Say And Do Anything To Get Elected". Mitt Romney's Bold Lie In Ohio About Jeep Closing Should Be A Warning Sign For Voters - Romney's Flip Flopping Candidacy Has Ventured Beyond Mere "White Lies" - Romney Is Now In The Psychotic Zone Of Distrust - This Guy, Romney - He's Unscrewed And Dangerous For America!

Mitt Romney will not win the presidency, but his dishonesty campaign will leave a black eye on American politics, Americans and the media, which won't be easily erased. Republican Newt Gingrich warned voters and the media about Mitt Romney during the primaries, saying, "He will lie, do and say anything to get elected." The media ignored it, and the voters weren't paying attention. Now, here we are a few days from the election, and the worst, most dishonesty candidate is still in competition for the White House.

Mitt Romney's Bold Lie In Ohio About Jeep Closing Should Be A Warning Sign For Voters - Romney's Flip Flopping Candidacy Has Ventured Beyond Mere "White Lies" - Romney Is Now In The Psychotic Zone Of Distrust - This Guy, Romney - He's Unscrewed And Dangerous For America!

Romney is a pathetic POS, a so-called religious man who will lie through his teeth with his bias bull@!$%#. Newt Gingrich, not the best himself, but even he knows what this liar is all about.

OBAMA/BIDEN....2012!!!!

You better get ready folks. Jim Spence, Ido etc. will be blaming Obama for the time it takes to fix the mess left by Sandy. ( Estimates before the storm were at least a week to 10 days! I'm sure that won't be good enough until you think of the Month it took for Katrina repairs because bush was busy at his ranch doing nothing to coordinate anything. Eventually he flew over the damage!) Even if it is the job of the power companies to make repairs they will have you believing it is Obama's fault. Also, get ready for the jobs report, if it gets out in time? If it is bad it will be Obama's fault as well it should be, but if it is good it will be because the numbers were rushed through and can't be believed! Just getting you ready for what will play out later this week folks!

If it was up to Romnesia we wouldn't have an Auto Industry, the only thing RobMeHood is good for is Lying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the Good of America "VOTE" for President OBAMA ******************

Jim Spence, If you think you can't be prosecuted for voter fraud based on something you have written online, Think Again.

Voter Fraud is not a joke.

MODERATORS: Please report Jim Spence to the FBI. He has probably lied about his true identity when registering so you will need to provide his IP address as well.

What he is doing, giving a false date for the election, is not a joke. He has done it repeatedly and it is a pattern.

Hey Joe Cracker, if they made so much money here, then why aren't they rewarding the hard work our American workers did by making the entire expansion right here in the US? Joe Biden, you are one stupid Cracker!

The new Romney ad airing in Ohio says "Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China.

• GM Bankruptcy: http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/03/autos/gm_desperate_final_days.fortune/?postversion=2009060310
• Chrysler Bankruptcy: http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/30/news/companies/chrysler_bankruptcy/index.htm
• Forbes "Treasury Sells Chrysler Stake To Fiat, Sees $1.3B Loss On Bailout": http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveschaefer/2011/07/21/treasury-sells-chrysler-stake-to-fiat-sees-1-3b-loss-on-bailout/
• Building Jeeps in China: Chrysler/Fiat start from behind to tap China market": http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/04/chryslerfiat-starting-way-behind-in-big-china-market/1

Looks like the ad is absolutely accurate and Biden is once again telling lies to cover up for the Obama Administrations total failure in job creation, economic recovery, and foreign policy.

If you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare voters.
If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things. - Barack Obama Acceptance Speech DNC 28 August 2008

Say what you want to say about President Obama.

The debt, Muslim, Socialist, Commy or the N-word.

But for President Obama to pull us out a disaster that the Republicans put us in and now they are claiming it's President Obama's fault. How ignorant and stupid are any one to believe that. I could go point by point to rebut every lie out there. But I wont, what i will do is not give the keys back to the same people who put us in this mess than claim they had nothing to do with it, it was all President Obama's fault.

The racial hatred they have ginned up is beyond the 1920's era. All because they are afraid of losing power. I would too, I would try to get every government dollar in my pocket then tell you you are the one who is taking government hand outs. And we can't afford it anymore, all the while getting rid of the estate tax, dividend tax, corporate tax, eliminating government oversights. Then lose the election as the Dems clean it up again. Then wait for the next election and blame it on the Dems that they did not clean the mess up fast enough. I viscous cycle all the while the rich get richer and the poor gets poorer. All due to the lack of education. They will be a lot of white people making 10k - 50k voting republicans knowing they will privatize every program for profit. If the poor and elderly can't afford it OH WELL, just die.

President Obama 2012

Hint: Start watching and listening to other programs other than Faux Noise.

Hint: The bad economy was not President Obama's fault period.

Hint: If anyone pulls this country out the great recession deserves to finish the job period.

Hint: Black people are not devils

Hint: If you collect or will collect or gat social security you are a socialist. If you don't want to be a socialist give back your social security check.

Hint: You may be a coming out - racist

ED-2874315

Shhhhhh, do you hear the black helicopters too?

Good God man, get a life.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

GOPisextinct

1funkygirl:

Proud of our cleavage are we?

Thanks for taking the look. When ya got them, flaunt them! Right Feisty?

how can the right wing christian's put up with the constant lying..........shouldn't they be outraged at the amount of unfettered deceit their party is flaunting?.......I thought lying was a sin...........I don't know, maybe it has been so long since I crossed the threshold of a church things have changed.......lying may be a sin except in politics?

Hypocrisy...........you would think God would strike someone down.......heck, maybe God has decided to take a political side and ok lying too........it is a shame though......

as individuals we should be morally and ethically strong enough of our own accord to say all this lying is wrong.

What does that say about us that we value lying, winning at all costs, money and power over human life and moral and ethical codes?

Americans and our nation could be so much more............if we just stop listening to those who pit us against each other and tell us it is a good thing to be selfish and self centered....

President Obama sees our worth.......he sees our potential..........and he thinks we are worth it.

Thank you Mr. President.

"Ladies and gentlemen, have they no shame!?"

Really?

What idiot would actually listen to Clinton or Biden

One is a draft evading, sexual predator who was impeached for lying to congress; the other is a racist and village idiot without the intelligence to even know what state he is in.

Spanky-

Say Seeking who is the bigger lying liar head that has garnered your vote?

Billy C. and his 'I did not have...sexual relations..with that woman...'

Or Jonny Edwards, who you of course voted for in 2004?

Gee Spanky, you seem to have forgotten Larry Craig...you know, the gay hating...foot tapping...gay Republican Congressman from Idaho (well he's not really gay, he's a Republican and he was merely trying to get the cop's attention...successfully)...roflmao!

NH_Shellback

What idiot would actually listen to Clinton or Biden

As the most popular living American Politician...I'd say MOST Americans!

One is a draft evading, sexual predator who was impeached for lying to congress; the other is a racist and village idiot without the intelligence to even know what state he is in.

As opposed to GW Bush who deserted the Texas NG during the Vietnam Way and started an unnecessary war killing over 4,000 American Service Members and over 100,000 Iraqis for political gain? And regarding Village Idiots, that was GW's nickname.

As to racism:

Former Colin Powell top aide on Republicans: 'My party is full of racists

Not my words...his.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/powell-aide-gop-full-racists-article-1.1193673#ixzz2Anzpc4WT

Nice deflection Doc - thanks for proving my point.

NH_Shellback

Nice deflection Doc - thanks for proving my point.

Well, Republicans certainly know something about deflection now don't they? In this case however, I think it was pretty straight forward.

JK1963

Old Doc,

You mean CONGRESS is the one that approved the Iraq war...somehow you on the left keep forgetting that...

I haven't forgotten anything, including that a majority of Democrats voted against the war and a majority of Republicans voted for it.

Show me where I'm wrong JK1963!

Spanky-

Poor Seeking Sanity - she just cannot refute that Clinton was convicted of lying.

I said it before (many times) and I will say it again:

I will take Bill Clinton's lie about a BJ that killed no one over a Bush's lie about WMD that killed over 100,000 (if not more)

This China dribble is ridiculous. Obama and his cronies keep calling Romney out for things they are doing themselves. I loved in the debates Romney calling out Obama for his pension also being invested in China! What hypocrites!

This auto issue is even better. Obama fires the CEO and HAND PICKS a new one who brags to the Chinese about their growth in China and everywhere outside the US. He says 7 out of every 10 GM cars are built outside of the US, they've built the Advanced Technology Center in China that moves Research and Development jobs from the US to China, he says that they 'regard their 11 joint ventures' with the Anti-democratic Communist Chinese government as their 'recipe to success' - to get these bids they agreed to transfer 'a good deal of state-of-the-art' technology to China. He touts GM's 'commitment to working in China, with China, and FOR China'.

Obama handed GM a pile of Money, fired their CEO, and appointed a new one who's moving the company OUT of the US. They've admitted 25 billion will never be recovered. Thanks Obama for bailing out a company that doesn't care about AMERICA and appointing a CEO that is determined to move jobs outside the US.

Search for "General Motors is becoming China Motors" on Youtube

me1234567891

Obama fires the CEO and HAND PICKS a new one

another Romney-lie-repeating troll. Zero facts, 100% crap.

Spanky...

"But then again, so many of you libbies love your imports."

Oh really??

Spanky-

Hey Forrest and WCA [my fellow gar guys], check it out:

I just picked up a '05 Land Rover lr3 off a buddy of mine. 64,000 miles, i great shape, but it's a Land Rover so of course it has all kids of problems: Suspension compressor motor a d relay out. All four Breaks and rotors, gone, and both rear 02 sensors out, and check engine light on.

Dealer wanted $3500 to fix. I just picked up all the parts for $940 [the compressor was $550]. Gonna go out and get started now. Plan to make it a desert crawler/weekend car.

Got the car for $10K, after I do above repairs it'll be worth probably $16-17K.

Plus I would way rather spend day rooting around in my garage than working in office.

So Everyone - have a happy and safe weekend. I'm off to get my hands real dirty.

And of course Ms. Spanky hates it when I have grease caked under my nails and smelling like gasoline all weekend. :)

• 6 votes

#1.63 - Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

Your so full of sh1t....

Watch video about Romney to hear what the GOP really thinks of him.

www.570wkbn.com/pages/pp_ronverb.html?article=10521520#.UIiYK3jWe2E.email

Obama/Biden 2012

Jim,

Boy...Ed is sure upset with you!! I have some swampland in Florida I'd be interested in selling him!!

Old Doc,

While the House held a majority for Republicans 215 voting for from Republicans and 82 voting for from Democrats, 29 out of 50 Democratic senators voted for the resolution.

Not a lie bayllie the Obama administration 'asked' Richard Wagoner to step down and appointed Akerson, to GM's board one year later. 'Look it up' -- as Obama would say.

Point is Obama blasts Romney for some made up 'outsourcing' garbage and not being 'tough' on China when the reality he doesn't care, he only pushes that angle because you dopes will eat it up.

Jim Spence - Define Real American for me. I have asked you this before but you have never indulged me. Please tell me why someone who votes for Romney is a Real American?

GOPisextinct - Those aren't 1funnygirl's boobs, that is a picture of Jen Psaki. 1funnygirl is apparently one of those conspiracy wing nuts who think one of Feisty's identities is that of Jen Psaki.

Caesar - I am smarter than you. Thank you for noticing.

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

But wait a minute JimSpence...your side told Latinos in AZ that election day was November 8th. The secretary of state there even had that date printed on the ballots. But the interesting thing about that...right above the incorrect date listed in Spanish, the correct date was listed in English. Glaringly stupid. I know that you boys, led by Mitt, usually operate in a state of confusion or in a vacuum, but you'd think that somebody in that cabal of yours was intelligent enough to actually see that you're at odds with yourselves. Perhaps even you...but no, evidently not.

I continually marvel as to why the right-wing is so-o-o-o-o afraid of having a fair election. Voter ID and voting day restrictions, early voting snafus, on-line voter registrations sites that can't handle the traffic (take a look at CO), "(Un)True the Vote" operations, billboards targeting minority voters about "voter fraud" that even Republican politicos can't provide any proof of in their court filings, the company the RNC hired (and later fired in multiple states...again) to conduct voter registration that was found to have trashed some registrations because they weren't Republican (FL) but yet was the same company (with a different name) that they used before, that young lady in CO (working for that same company as in FL) who was caught on camera lying about who she worked for and stating that she was only registering Romney supporters, improper dates on ballots, your POTUS wannabe calling company owners to "advise" them that they should talk to their employees about who to vote for, Republican state legislators passing bills "guaranteeing a win for Romney" (PA)...etc.

Sorry to tell you, but your cloaking device is on the blink.

NOTE: Liberals/Progressives remember to vote on November 7th.

AHhhhh the desperation of the disingenuous and lying Right Wing, banking on everybody else being as stupid and misinformed as the ones who nominated Romney. So sad for them.

Romney's quote (from above) .....

"Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians, who are going to build Jeeps in China."

GM Bankruptcy:

WASHINGTON — President Obama will push General Motors into bankruptcy protection on Monday, making a risky bet that by temporarily nationalizing the onetime icon of American capitalism, he can save at least a diminished automaker that is competitive.

The bankruptcy is a moment of reckoning for an industry that was once at the heart of the American economy. The process began early Monday with a bankruptcy filing by a G.M. affiliate, a dealership in New York City, which described the automaker as “a debtor in possession under Chapter 11.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/business/01auto.html?pagewanted=all

Chrysler bankruptcy and sale to Italians:

Chrysler LLC, for years America’s third-biggest automaker, survived perhaps the most dire of its periodic near-death experiences in 2008 and 2009, when the federal government forced it into bankruptcy, pumped in $10 billion in taxpayer funds and put it under the control of the Italian automaker Fiat, with the auto workers union as the company’s biggest shareholder.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/chrysler_llc/index.html

Jeeps manufactured in China:

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

So, instead of making more Jeeps in America and creating American jobs, Jeeps will be made in America and in China, with new job creation going to China rather than to America.

Nope, no lies here. The only liars on this subject are Obama, Biden, and Clinton.

Must suck when no one will talk to you. That's what you get for being such an offensive little turd. But hey, keep posting Spunkface. I need the laughs.

That's what you get for being such an offensive little turd.

are you familiar with the pot and kettle thingy? im thinking not. but hey tell us that your super smart tony. it shows you know

I've been around watching you ramble on about me.

It is true that my claim no longer stands however it is still true that the latest 10 polls over the last 7 days shows our President with a 2 point (down from 2.3) lead and of the 10 polls they are tied in 2 and Romney leads in just one. Also Romney has not lead on average in Ohio ... ever!

Thanks to the storm we may not get any more updates for a couple days. Gallup has suspended their daily tracking poll for tomorrow … maybe more … due to power and phone outages.

was that so hard Dennis. see need not take stock in polls, but same goes for spanky. The future is in motion always. to hard to predict, just ask Yoda

J

CA,

Just because you love my poll data sooo much …

RCP (Average of polls) for President as of 10/28/2012
11 Tossup States: Tied in 2 (CO=9, VA=13), Obama leads in 7, Romney leads in 2.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(41)+Lean(18) = 201 +Tossup(80) = 281
Delegates: Romney = Solid(127)+Likely(50)+Lean(14) = 191 +Tossup(44) = 235
Total Delegates: [281+235+22 = 538] Win = 270
Tossup lead by state: (FL29=MR+1) , (NC15=MR+3) , (WI10=BO+2) , (IA6=BO+2) , (NV6=BO+2) , (PA20=BO+4) , (MI16=BO+4) , (OH18=BO+2) , (NH4= BO+2)

RCP (Average of polls) for the Senate as of 10/28/2012
Tossup: [Tied in 1] + [D leading in 6] + [R leading in 3] = 10
Dems: Not-up/Safe 37 + Likely 7 = 44 + Lean 2 = 46
Rpub: Not-up/Safe 42 + Likely 1 = 43 + Lean 1 = 44

im hurt Dennis. I love those Facts you know. perhaps one day you will show me one. perhaps

What's up Dennis?

So now it's Mitt has not ever -ever-ever lead "on average."

Now of course you can see the change in your position.

But tell you what - cause I am consistent - what say you we give it a couple of days to see about that average, yes?

Trends Dennis. It's all about the trends.

But I suspect you know that, just like you knew last week when you kept posting that drivel about 'not a single poll' was drivel then.

You did know that, didn't you Dennis?

The Republicans should ask Monthy Python for permission to use this song in their Presidential Campaign:

GIRL:
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make
them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm
is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your
neighbourhood.

MUM:
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just
anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more
care.

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is
wasted,
God gets quite irate.

CHILDREN:
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite
irate.

Just because you love my poll data sooo much …

He just likes your poll

Bill Clinton was one off the biggest American sellouts to China

Romney is pointing out the fact that Jeep/Chrysler were sold under Obama as part of the auto-bailout talks. Nothing is untruthful there.

That's funny. I thought Romney said that Jeep production was being moved to China. Looks like this chump hears at a different frequency than most rational people. A pity.

Jeep production is not moving to China, or anywhere else. Pubbie alternate reality has let some of their fantasy land escape to the real world again.

I work at the Science Labs/Proving Grounds for Chrysler in Auburn Hills, Mi, their World Headquarters. It is the second largest office complex on the planet, the Pentagon is first. When driving past the Toledo North Assembly Plant (TNAP) in Toledo along I-75 you can see the construction work ongoing at TNAP where there will be a massive expansion of their assembly operations. You can see it from the freeway, but don't look, you'll cause an accident. This plant makes the Wrangler, Liberty.

At the Jefferson North Plant (JNAP), in Detroit a giant expansion was completed to ramp up production of the Grand Cherokee. Sergio announced that a new Maserati super luxury SUV will be added to the plant production portfolio.

The point being: Jeep is in the USA to stay, and production is being moved there if anything. The plant in Belvidere, Illinois is also slated to receive more jobs. Another 1,100 of them, I believe. Sergio wants to move production to a place with a devalued currency and anachronistic labor laws: the United States.

The Chinese have this rule that says that any product you want to sell there,.....you have to make there. They have intelligent trade policies modeled after the ones we used before the Pubbies took power in 1980. China may as well use our policies,.....we ain't using them no more.

The Chinese don't allow any Romney's, Maddoffs, Milkens, or Icahns in their world. They know how these parasites operate.

After all. Look at what these policies have done to our country. The Chinese have a prime textbook example of what not to do.

The Reich-Wing Mainstream media is merely counting on the consistently reliable ignorance of their adherents when they put out this idiot bait story, and Mitt never met a self-serving lie he didn't like.

He just likes your poll

Tony don't project, bad for your health mmmkay.

The Reich-Wing Mainstream

which would be what media again? NBC, MSNBC, FR? are you familiar with Nazism? Go ask Al Visalia, he said the similiarly idiotic thing. BTW look up GODWIN LAW while youre at it.

The Chinese don't allow any Romney's, Maddoffs, Milkens, or Icahns in their world. They know how these parasites operate.

because its Gov controlled success GOPisntExtnict. You know Like Obama and you Didnt Build that. But hey atleast you admit that you would like to see America go the way of the Chinese. Sweat shops, poor working wages/conditions, and over all shiddy living standards. Hey looks like we're well upon our way. Ni Hao GOPisntExtinct. Personal Freedom and Success a No NO so yeah Chinese havea prime textbook example of what not to do.

PS, make all notes Payable to Red China.

GOPisextinct

How about Italy?

Coming hot on the heels of speculation that some Jeep production may be moved to China comes a bombshell from a Bloomberg report. Fiat is now considering moving Chrysler and Jeep production to Italy.

According to the piece, "To counter the severe slump in European sales, (Fiat CEO Sergio) Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said."

So, let's be real clear here, we are talking about vehicles that will be built in Italy and exported to America. The evidence is clear that Fiat is looking at ways to move production of vehicles from the US to elsewhere, whether it be China or Italy, costing American jobs. This is becoming indisputable, despite outcries from certain parties to the contrary.

http://nlpc.org/cached/fiat-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy.html?q=stories/2012/10/29/fiat-says-chrysler-jeep-production-may-move-italy

Or this story.

In a bid to fill some of its empty Italian production capacity, Fiat plans to build a pair of small SUVs at its plant in Melfi starting in 2014, according to Automotive News Europe. With most Chrysler plants running at or near full capacity, the Melfi facility will probably build the new Fiat and Jeep SUVs for export to North America. The final decision could come as soon as this weekend. The new small Jeep is expected to replace the Patriot and/or Compass, which are both produced in Chrysler's Belvidere, Illinois plant.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/21/small-jeep-and-fiat-suvs-to-be-built-in-italy/

Now does it make it better for you if Jeeps are made in Italy and not China for export to the US??

Clinton and Biden are upset with a Romney ad? Oh, the shock, the horror. Now let us examine the Obama campaign ads, hmmmm? We have a man falsely accusing Romney of murder, then we had the ad that accused him of being a felon and most recently ( and hitting a really low note) we get the ad with children singing about how voting for Romney is going to turn the seas black with oil and kill off all the polar bears.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel is all the Obama campaign has done and can muster. There is no lie about moving auto factories to China, GM will be building caddies there and as to the outsourcing, well, seems that Obama is the champ when it comes to sending jobs overseas. South Korea, Brazil, China and...are you ready? Finland. Not too many Obama supporters seem to pay attention to THOSE jobs being outsourced, but then, most Obama supporters don't pay attention to anything longer than a thirty second sound bite. Being spoon-fed propaganda and regurgitating misinformation is their only raison d'etre.

More than 60% of the GM bailout went to their off-shore manufacturing expansion, creating more jobs outside the US. Obama has off-shored more jobs than Romney by a huge margin with his spending of our money, but worse, borrowed money.

Again, doesn't fit the liberal mantra, so they simply deny the reality.

Maybe you need to pay attention. Jeep said they are not moving American jobs anywhere as a matter of fact they are expanding here and adding 1100 new jobs.

In addition so they can sell their jeep in China, they are going to start making them there too.

Good lord, one thing after another to keep republicans from remembering that Mitt is the least vetted presidential candidate in 50 years.

We keep hearing what a honest guy Mitt is but all those people are just repeating Mittens lies. Did he show the voting public 8 years of back taxes to vet him as much as he vetted his Vice President?

All we really know is McCain saw 18 years of Mitt's taxes and choice Palin instead for his V.P. With all the brains the republican party members keep claiming, this is dumb for republicans to not even be curious to know what Mitt is hiding.

A vote for Mitt is telling everyone that vetting a president is no longer important.

Spanky-

Say - were is Dennis from Ohio? I kinda wanted to a chat about them Ohio polls. Not around today, eh? I wonder why.

He's here. BTW, how does it feel to be so awesome in one's own mind?

Romnesia says the lamest things, what's up with this lying fool ???????????????????????????????

Fact: JEEP is tooling up to build COMPLETE JEEPs in China.

Fact: Jeep is owned by the Italians as majority share.

Fact: Once you tool up in China many PARTS can be made in China, sent to the USA and used on the USA JEEP assy line.

Fact: GM now has TWELVE plants in China since the auto bailout.

Fact: Both GM and JEEP are doing a great job showing the Chinese how to build a quality car.

The last Fact is what kills USA jobs.

The Romney ad is 100% true and the Dems at every turn lied about lie'n.

In a few days the Dems and Republicans will be put out of their misery and they will just have to sit back and see how it's done buy a true Business pro. Romney knows how to fix stuff and nobody in the World knows the American budget better than Paul Ryan... You all will just have to sit back, grab some pop corn and be amazed with how fast Romney will right this ship. The only thing you need to be scared about is if you are a blood sucking Fed worker. Everything will be shifted back to the states. Like it should be.

TO: Spanky-who wrote:

"Say - were is Dennis from Ohio?

I kinda wanted to a chat about them Ohio polls.

Not around today, eh? I wonder why."

You gotta be kiddin me.

He's probably avoiding you. Why on Earth would anyone want to "chat" with you? It's not as if you were a pleasant person or anything. More like the worse POS on the Blog.

Obama/Biden 2012

Drill Baby Drill-3459380

Fact: JEEP is tooling up to build COMPLETE JEEPs in China.

Fact: JEEP is also tooling up to build more JEEPs in the US.

Fact: Jeep is owned by the Italians as majority share.

Fact: BP is owned by the British...Shell oil is owned by the Dutch...what's your point?

Fact: Once you tool up in China many PARTS can be made in China, sent to the USA and used on the USA JEEP assy line.

Fact: The Republicans in Congress blocked attempts to rein in the tax breaks corporations get for off-shoring. Why is a Republican complaining about off-shoring?

Fact: GM now has TWELVE plants in China since the auto bailout.

Fact: Again we have a Republican hypocritically complaining about off-shoring.

Fact: Both GM and JEEP are doing a great job showing the Chinese how to build a quality car.

Fact: And yet again we have a Republican hypocritically complaining about off-shoring.

The last Fact is what kills USA jobs.

Fact: Republicans blocked efforts to stop tax breaks for off-shoring...FACT: Republicans Kill US Jobs for their personal profit!

In a few days the Dems and Republicans will be put out of their misery and they will just have to sit back and see how it's done buy a true Business pro. Romney knows how to fix stuff and nobody in the World knows the American budget better than Paul Ryan... You all will just have to sit back, grab some pop corn and be amazed with how fast Romney will right this ship. The only thing you need to be scared about is if you are a blood sucking Fed worker. Everything will be shifted back to the states. Like it should be

Amazing...since he hasn't told anyone how he's going to do it...we should all be like you and take it on faith? ...yea, right, bend over America!

I can see Karl Rove's sick "sense of humor" in the ad described in the article. To him, it's all a big joke. He had a hand in annointing GWB for eight years, knowing how incompetent GWB was from the start. He should be in jail for treason for, at the least, voter fraud and intimidation in two presidential elections, and therefore as an accomplice in almost tanking the country. Okay, I'm making my own laws here, but Rove's stink is all over this latest ad. He's basically stuck in a kindergarten mentality of playing practical jokes and the entire country and a good portion of the rest of the world are paying the price. Pleeeaaassse -- can every Democrat vote for Obama and vote out the TPers in Congress and thereby make Rove irrelevant????!!!!

And now the Koch brothers are trying to make in-roads into California with their Prop. 32. Can every Calif. democrat please vote NO on Prop. 32 and keep the Kochs and Rove out of Calif. politics??!! Apparently the mega-wealthy Kochs aren't happy with what they already have and want even more money and power. Egomaniacs. All we need to do is say "No" in the voting booths to these people and we can make them go away.

Considering some of the vile political diatribe passing for ads that the Obama bunch is running, it seems they can dish it out but start whining when the opposition responds in kind.

What they hate most is that the Romney Jeep ad is 100% accurate.

In the meantime, Obama will busy himself with the hurricane thereby avoiding any election problems and let Clinton and Biden campaign for him. It’s called hiding in plain sight.

WW -- Jeep management came out immediately and refuted the claims, so the ad isn't 100% accurate, is it?

Obama is doing what any President in this situation would do, and that's tending to a crisis -- Hurricane Sandy. duh. But don't worry, Rove and co. will nitpick and criticize and LIE about everything Obama does regarding relief efforts.

In agreement 2.25

Reading challenged, are we? The Romney ad never said anything about Chrysler moving Jeep production to China but said a Jeep production facility was being constructed there. This prompted Chrysler chairman Sergio Marchionne to issue a statement acknowledging a Jeep production factory was indeed being built in China but insisting Jeep production will remain in the U.S.

Read between the lines. Chrysler is now foreign owned and they'll do what's necessary to maintain profits, so let's wait and see what transpires once the Jeep facility in China is up and running.

They claim with disdain that the Romney ad was carefully crafted to be accurate. What's the problem? Would they have liked it better if the Romney ad was carelessly crafted and inaccurate? You bet they would.

Despite your protestations, the ad remains 100% accurate.

Joe Biden calling someone a liar? The same Joe Biden that plagiarized speeches by a British gentleman and John Kennedy. The same Joe Biden that lied about playing football against Ohio (?), the same Joe Biden that lied about his college grades and where he finished in his class. God, you liberals are really dense. BTW, has Joe figured out what state he is in today?

he's in FYRO Macedonia today LOL

This is the same Bill Clinton that most Americans love except for the hardcore jacklegs on the far right...you know...people like you. If Clinton butts heads with RichBoy Romney, your punk loses. See you boys in 4 years. Maybe you can beat Biden or Hillary. Probably not. You losers are done. I notice that you didn't mention that your thugs were doing worse than Clinton did while they were trying to impeach him. As Newt was on his high horse leading the impeachment prosecution, he was boning an aide that we were paying salary for while he was married. Any comments on that,Sparky? You repugnicans are a study in hypocrisy.

Clinton? Most Americans? Uh, no. Most Americans tolerate him and regard him with amusement, rather like they do Biden. Then again, it seems that most democrats hold to very low standards. Note that Gingrich DIDN'T get the endorsement? That seems to have escaped your notice. Then, noticed any 'degraded' morality with Romney? No? So sorry, guess you'll have to keep making things up.

It's noteworthy that when we wanted to get back our American citizen being held by N.Korea, it wasn't Newt or Rmoney they wanted to see. It was Bill Clinton. and he acquitted himself with dignity and honor and effectiveness and brought back our girl. Stuff that in your pipe,sfcret. Almost the whole world adores this man. So yuou and your ilk can go pout in the closet. He is loved, your POS is despised. Worldwide.

Thomas - when you justify your own guys abhorrent behavior by comparing the President lying to the American people and wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on impeachment proceedings rather than being a man to a typical politician cheating on his wife, this is the very definition of hypocricy, so study away.

As for our "punk losing", sorry to disappoint, but literally every poll shows Obama consistently losing ground, larger numbers of Republicans voting early and requesting absentee for the first time, along with many polls still using the 2008 turnout %'s as their basis - I know all of this is over your head so I'll explain what this means.

This means next Tuesday night the election will be called early, for Romney, as your punk will have been beaten like a dirty rug.

we'll see Dimbulb. The GOP is a bunch of treason old SOBs that should be in prison. Further, if Obama is as bad as you fools on the right allege, why is this election even close. You Eeyores have more holes in your logic than a collander. Finish your GED and then we'll talk. I have a business to run.