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Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is trying to inflate the sense of momentum surrounding his campaign, President Barack Obama's re-election team argued Friday.
A senior Obama campaign official told NBC News that their tracking of the handful of battleground states that could decide the election suggests that Romney isn't performing as well as his campaign would have voters believe.
"His momentum narrative does have an impact on how people view the race on the ground in the states," said the official. "And we wanted to correct it."
A series of public national and battleground state polls have shown Romney improving -- or even, in some cases, pulling even -- versus Obama in the aftermath of his successful first debate performance. The NBC News-Wall Street Journal released this past Sunday showed the two candidates tied at 47 percent apiece among likely voters.
In recent campaign stops, the GOP nominee has made an unabashed effort to make the case that momentum is on his side.
"These debates really have propelled our campaign across the country, and in some respects, I think they diminished the Obama campaign," Romney said Thursday in Ohio. "He knows that I’m out there and they’re not making much progress, and so his campaign gets smaller and smaller, focused on smaller and smaller things. Our campaign is about big things."
The Obama campaign argued that their early and absentee voting operation, combined with their analysis of the situation in each battleground, suggests that Romney is bluffing.
"I think over the last couple of weeks, there's been this sense that Romney has this incredible momentum, and it's not borne out by any fact," the Obama official asserted.
Romney's also tried in recent days to cast himself as the candidate of "big change" while painting Obama as representative of the "status quo."
The Obama campaign suggested that the president is preparing to engage Romney on that assertion in the closing days of the 2012 campaign.
"He doesn't have the change message; it's just not believable," the Obama official said. "It's not believable by voters, and actually gives us an opening. Yeah, he does want to change. He wants to go back to the very same policies that crashed the economy."
The official added: "So you'll be hearing that from us pretty heavily over the course of the next week."
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I agree... those guys live in alternate universe where everything is backwards...black is white, happy is sad... and oh, rape is a gift from God.
Every now and then Mitt Romney steps out to this universe and says something completely opposite, but I'm afraid he's caught between worlds flipping and flopping.
Well, when all is said and done... President Obama will still be sitting in the white house come Feb 2013...and Gov Romney would be moving to his mansions in CA, MA, NH.... Cayman, Europe and all the other ones we don't know about. He can sob in each of them from his fail candidacy.
"O"mentum!!!
Catch it!
Riddle me this?
If Willard has the wind at his back, why is he refusing to do any interviews?
Shouldn't he be OUT selling his special brand of bull@!$%# to anyone who will listen? lol
The President is right. Where are those people who should do a fat-chick on Mitt? Where are those fact-checkers? Taking their weekend off and spend time with their fat-chicks?
sounds like a disease i don't want to catch
The Obama campaign should have a strategy in the next 2 weeks to buy air time on radio and TV to expose Mitt, expose his lies, expose Mitt as a playmate is exposed in a magazine centerfold
Willard is gonna' let Sununu, Palin and others handle things. Of course nothing about Willard and/or his campaign is grounded on fact! They don't need no stinkin' facts for their low-information base!
If Willard has the wind at his back, why is he refusing to do any interviews?
Sorry the hard-ball interviews with People Magazine and The view would be just too tough, and can you imagine the questions on The Letterman Show? Wow! Way too tough... I guess only Obama can handle those interviews because we all know those are much harder questions than the CBS or Telemundo questions he would get! (sarcasm key... why can't I find it?)
It's pretty unfortunate that the media/polling firms have to take the temperature of this campaign every 5 minutes. We're seeing polls now every few hours with vastly different results.
National polls can give us a window into who will win the popular vote. State polls in battleground states tell us something entirely different.
I don't recall the president being behind in the EV this entire campaign. Early voting has served the president well it would appear in Ohio.
The bottom line - most polls in battleground states favor President Obama. Sometimes a poll comes around in Romney's favor, but not too often. It doesn't appear he has the right combination of battleground states to carry him over the 270+.
The math isn't there.
This isn't wishful thinking. These are the results we're all seeing.
There was something interesting I read about Thomas Dewey many years ago. He was favored to win and he just kind of sat back, did no interviews in the final month of the campaign, and lost. This is the plan Romney has taken.
No interviews. Fundraisers with Glenn Beck & Dick Cheney tonite.
He won't answer for the rape statement by someone he went out of his way to endorse. And on top of that, Ryan is in hiding.
What the hell kind of ticket is that? Where is the media uproar over this?
Mitt's handlers won't let him near an interview where every question isn't reviewed ahead of time. They know he can't handle it.
Such a pathetic excuse for a candidate. How low the GOP has sunk!
Let's get real - is ANYTHING Romney says or does grounded in FACT????
Obama/Biden 2012
Shucking & Jiving?
The race baiting Republiklan party is despicable & desperate with their "dog whistles"!
And now, this just in:
Obama has added a point from last night. Obama's chance of winning is now 74.4% and Romney is 25.6%. The President now cast jump to 78.6% and Romney is 21.4%. President Obama had a few good days with polling. Let's remember national trackers aren't as important as state polls. Gallup, ABC polls and such don't move the needle.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/26/1150892/-Nate-Silver-Increase-for-Obama
"Shucking & Jiving"? Racist comment lady,.
Feisty and Pat - because Palin brings such authenticity to any campaign and such an air of intelligence??
Obama/Biden 2012
Why isn't this on the news?
Ann Coulter:
"Maybe It's Time To Go After Obama's Children"
http://voice4america.com/articles/2012/10/25/ann-coulter-maybe-its-time-to-go-after-obamas-children.html#ixzz2AKcUFpZw
Seriously
With The Donald leading the charge. Heck, Willard is pulling out all the stops, which means he will stop at nothing........Merchants of Racism....Merchants of Hate......Merchants of Bigotry.....
Again people come on:
The race baiting Republiklan party is despicable & desperate with their "dog whistles"!
Nobody had a problem when Joe Biden said he'd "Put Y'all Back in Chains!" And now you're telling me that republicans are bringing race into this Feisty???
#Hypocrites
There was an article I read quite recently about the Romney's oldest photogenic son Tagg. Interviews were done with Tagg's friends from childhood.
One of them said - Mitt and Ann were commonly known as being the "eccentric" parents in the neighborhood. Not surprising.
Sorry!
Only repeating what the Wasilla Hillbilly said about your President!
Don't shoot the messenger...
More lies from Mitt.
Romney tells crowd Jeep is moving to china...
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/10/26/jeep-china-romney-offshoring-wrong-false-gm/
That hateful creature has a special place in hell reserved especially for her!
Bad enough she insulted the mentally handicapped with her juvenile
taunttweet earlier in the week!Lookee here - we have another freshly hatched re-reg!
Tickity tock little buddy! ;o)
So which side is denying the polls now?
The president's campaign is on its slide downward less than 2 weeks before the election. BTW as far as elections go, if an incumbent is tied in the polls it is bad news, but the President isn't tied HE'S BEHIND. No more debates or conventions to shake things up. So his only chance is to deny, lie, insult, and lie some more. Sorry Mr. president. The country is smarter than that.
Romney/Ryan 2012
Dear SeekingSanity:
You have Donald Trump, John Sununu, Ron Christie, Dan Senor, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Dick Cheney, Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich, Ted Nugent, Clinton Eastwood and Meat Loaf.
We're all gonna be seeking sanity in about 2 weeks. We've had 12 years of pure insanity from the GOP.
These are the people, together with the rest of the tea party gang, who have overtaken our government and replaced it with hate and racism.
These are the people supporting Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.
Can't wait for this to all end.
2016 - Hillary Clinton, in a landslide.
@grunt5grp..... Do try to keep up...Those are the words of Palin, concerning Our President!
BO, isn't that the most despicable lie to tell working people? I think so.
Daily Breakdown:
Obama’s Lead Persists In Ohio, Nevada, and Wisconsin Polls
With just 12 days to go, every day without signs of Romney making gains in Ohio, Wisconsin, or Nevada counts as a win for the president.
http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/109126/daily-breakdown-obamas-lead-persists-in-ohio-nevada-and-wisconsin-polls#
I try not to bring race into politics...and often find it distasteful when it's brought up... but man.. the repubs would try everything and anything to get elected.. including race to smear president Obama...
And I'm at the point where I find it completely deplorable where we have the first black president, and he has constantly been smeared for his race... either overtly or in disguise.
Colin powell endorses president Obama... now it's got to be because of race.... Governor Sununu is what the repubs got to offer... they should be ashamed and embarrassed at what they have to offer to the American populous. He call the president "Lazy, incompetent, and disengaged.." I can see if this is something you see on the internet, by some extreme right wing person... but a governor??? that's sad
Another thing that peeves me is that they keep asking why 94-98% of blacks support the president... well duh!!! you knuckle heads, blacks have always overwhelmingly supported democratic policies....republican policies have in recent years completely maligned blacks and alot of other minorities... for instance, if Allen West ran for president against a white dem... I would guarantee that he'd still get less than 5% of votes - shouldn't that prove that it isn't about race but policies... but knuckle heads wouldn't really understand that... their heads are to thick for any common sense to trickle in....
The "bain" of Romney's campaign is where he calls 47% of the country lazy, and do not want to take responsibility for their lives... in my humble opinion, that should disqualify him from the office he's running for...
Knuckle dragging neanderthals.
Pat,
Everything that comes out of Romney's mouth is despicable.
The big number hidden in the CNN Ohio Poll...
Among Women: Obama 56, Romney 42
Among Men: Romney 50, Obama 44
8-point gender gap.
So much for the "Romney has eliminated the Gender Gap" story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251179979
It took me awhile to find FR, but did you see that fat bastard Sununu walk back his race statement. What a laugh....
More great News..!!
Chicago Tribune endorses....
President Obama!!!
WOOT!
They recognize a winner when they see one!
It's all about race. Racing toward victory and all.
Gallup, RCP average, ties in Wisc. and Ohio, a lead in FLA, and Colorado.
Yeah, if I were the vaunted O team I'd go with there is nothing to see here thing-y too.
Too bad the facts are what they are, eh gang.
And don't forget what our man Chuck Todd keeps saying - it's all about the hue enthusiasm gap for O. And now add the evening of the woman vote.
Night, night O.
The New Yorker also endorses Obama...
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2012/10/29/121029taco_talk_editors
AND..
The Miami Herald endorses Obama too..
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/26/3068910/miami-herald-recommends-president.html
...and with Willard at the helm the teabaggers are a reincarnation of the 'know nothings'
4 more 4 44
@BO....
That video of Coulter concerning the Presidents girls is very disturbing......she will stoop to..no, she's already at the lowest level humanly possible.
Chilled...
Make that as viral as you can.
It will help the Democrats.
We all know who the Liar in Chief is. No more for 44. Time for REAL change. Time for REAL leadership.
Willard, the wind at your back is....well you know...what your running mate has been referring to....the gas. It is the lack of all that fancy food and having to eat, gods forbid, hot dogs or pizza.
Tweet/TOD:
On same day @MittRomney told Jeep falsehood, Chrysler added 1100 jobs in Detroit. 1100 jobs that wouldn't be there if Romney had his way.
Shhhhh, just nod and smile at the Romney supporters....and walk slowly away....
Will do, BO!
No, JG1. The "liar in chief" is the one caught in the MOST lies this election campaign. That would be Gov. Rommey.
Fact check for yourself. That one is easy to find!
Heck, I'll post a link anyhow in just case you don't want to check but still want to make claims. http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/10/politifact-tells-the-tale-obamabiden-lead-in-truth-department-romneyryan-tell-more-lies-chart.html
Nate Silver:
Obama's up 2-3 points in Ohio per all polling aggregates. Historically, that sort of advantage holds up a LOT with 10 days left.
Pigotry wrote; (You can't make this stuff up)
Where are those people who should do a fat-chick on Mitt?
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The best humor is unintentional, and this made my sides hurt even though I have absolutely no idea what it might mean...
(I feel like Dan Ackroyd as Norman Mainway)
OMG Pat,
This kind of news will lead Snookie-Joe to start mainlining her battery acid! lol
Hmmmm...
Has anyone else figured out Mr. Tonic is a freshly hatched re-re of Vermillion Sky?
You like the rest of the re-regs are NONE too bright! lmao
See ya dickhead....
Feisty: Mr. Tonic a 'dickhead' with no brain cells. ☺
Feisty, you know they ain't gonna hear that because DumbFux don't broadcast stuff like that. On Wednesday, they spent a whopping 2 minutes on the Murdoch story.
Tony,
Only because they are laser focused on Benghazi-Gate!
Effin... lemmings... lol
Another Tall Tale Destroyed
Mitt Romney at a rally in Defiance, Ohio, home to a General Motors powertrain plant:
"I saw a story today that one of the great manufacturers in this state Jeep — now owned by the Italians — is thinking of moving all production to China,"
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121026/POLITICS01/210260402/1121/auto0101/Romney--Chrysler-may-move-Jeep-production-to-China
Chrysler, responding to presidential nominee Mitt Romney's remark that Jeep was "thinking of" moving to China, says Jeep production will stay in North America.
Ranieri said Chrysler "has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China," but is "reviewing the opportunities to return Jeep output (for sale in) to China for the world's largest auto market."
He said U.S. Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/10/26/Chrysler-Jeep-jobs-to-stay-in-N-America/UPI-50451351276246/
Beating dead horses is a specialty of theirs. Even though everyone outside of the bubble heard the President call it "an act of terror" these clowns can't accept it. When Donald Trump is making waves, you know their campaign is in deep, deep doo doo.
Sununu, the Cuban, saying that President Obama doesn't know how to be an American!......Wow, just wow!
Nah not dead horses you bigot, dead Americans.
Some of us would appreciate a straight answer from this administration, but we won't hold our breath while we wait.
Dennis, re: the Chrysler story, did you hear what Rachel and Steve Kornacki just said?
Romney is literally getting his talking points off the internet at right wing blogs. He is running for the presidency and hoping to just get by, by reading lies on line.
That's how the Chrysler story he spouted today was born. From a right wing blog.
Charts describing what the Republicans have done to the economy.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph
Four brave and dedicated Americans died at Bengahzi and Obama lied. We now know that not only the State Department, but also the White House knew within a couple of hours the Consulate was under attack by Islamic Terrorist. We also now know that 3 times the Americans on the ground asked for and was denied military assistance. We know Panetta, Sec of Def also was part of the cover up.
President Obama it is now time to tell the American people the truth about the attack and the cover up pertaining to Bengahzi.
Stay positive America.
Time to ignore the haters and enjoy the brand new "official" music video...
FORWARD >>>>>>>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=1GOwfCSiuGg&vq=hd720
Share it with everyone.
Hey, Rodney Dangerfield, uh, really you think it's funny (my comment #1.2) - glad that I made some people laugh. But Rodney, you are not bad either - that Ladybug girl soccer movie always made me chuckle.
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I really meant to say 'fact-check', not 'fat chick.' Sorry. But laughter is still the best medicine, though.
I am getting the impression that the left wingers really can't defend the Obama Administration on the handling of the Terrorist attack on Bengahzi so they will try and deflect. Come lefties join with me in asking Obama to come clean and tell us what part he played in this disaster?
Why is Obama trying to deflect, stall and lie about engahzi? Americans deserve an answer.
There is a reason Paul Ryan is being hidden in "red" southern states. And why Romney isn't doing any interviews or even answering reporters questions. He would be asked why he still endorses Mourdock, why he still hasn't released more tax returns, about Bain Inequity and off-shoring American jobs to China, etc., etc. Romney can only turn to yet more bravado.
You KNOW Romney by the things he says when he thinks no one is watching, and by the people who surround him. Romney -- He's not in it for you.
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This thread is about Romney's bullshifting, yet rightwingers still have their panties in a wad about the Benghazi nontroversy.
Where is your proof/evidence that the responsible militia: 1) pre-planned the attack; 2) had ties to Al Qaeda; or 3) could have pulled the attack off without cover from spontaneous protests through-out the Middle East over the video (in other words, it was opportunistic)?
You don't have bullshift. You are grasping at straws because Romney/Ryan SUCK so badly regarding foreign policy -- The worst ticket ever in regard to foreign policy credentials.
Furthermore, please feel free to share with us how President Obama rid the world of a known terrorist, Qaddafi without starting a war of attrition. And please, let's discuss how the Libyan people immediately removed the militia and took to the the streets to rally IN FAVOR of the United States. Very different from how we were greeted by the people of Iraq under Dubya/Cheney.
Listen to Colin Powell's interview -- listen more than once to why he is supporting president Obama again. He sums it up very well. BTW, what about the Pat Tillman cover-up?
The disrespect of President Obama continues
Donald Trump stooped to a new level Wednesday, one that is surprising even for him. With his latest publicity stunt, not only has he embarrassed himself, but he has further added to a long list of disrespect toward The President of The United States.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/therootdc/post/donald-trump-the-disrespect-of-president-obama-continues/2012/10/25/e457ce02-1ea5-11e2-9746-908f727990d8_blog.html
Okay a wee bit ill tonight but reading the posts all I thought about was this ...
The narrative of Mitt Romney reminds me of the narrative in the movie American President ... sure looks like he took a page out of that book!
*the name was changed to protect the innocent actor*
Obama/Biden 2012
Well when the President is looking for a new job in the near future, perhaps he can run for "The President of Those who Spam Nonsense on Newsvine." I'm sure he will win by a landslide, because 90% of the mindless spammers on this site are democratic leaning.
Please proceed John Doe over to Fox Nation if you prefer. Oh that's right, they had to shut that down because the KKK-type white supremacists, Teavangelicals, and just plain crazies took over the asylum.
CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49570159#.UIsbaGfF2UI
Can anybody remember a time when America, especially middle class America, has ever prospered under republican leadership, can anybody ever remember a time when republicans paid down the debt, or provided an operating surplus? The notion that republicans are fiscally responsible, that they can make the economy viable for all, can create jobs in America, or pay the bills has no basis in fact. Republicans on watch brought us the great depression and the near great depression, an outrageous outpouring of American jobs to foreign nations, and the total stagnation and loss of middle class income and wealth. You want more of that then vote republican, and you will get more of that, just take a look back at the results of the last thirty years of trickle down economic theory, except for a brief respite under Clinton.
I really meant to say 'fact-check', not 'fat chick.' Sorry. But laughter is still the best medicine, though.
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Humor here, among other thing, is in short supply. Glad you enjoyed the joke too...
The first of the five stages of grief-
Denial.
The desperation in the Obama camp is on display every day, as Obama flails around, cursing, accusing, lying-
And, worse, denying his incompetence led to the deaths of four Americans. That, if nothing else, should give his supporters pause- but they lack the capacity to think for themselves. Instead, they cheer his jetting off to Vegas the day he learned of the deaths- they call it "calm". Most people call it "heartless", although venal works as well.
They call his lies about the cause of the attack "confusion"- despite evidence that he knew, in real time, that the video had nothing whatsoever to do with anything- including the attack in Cairo. They will not even question why the Egyptian demand for the release of the Blind Sheikh is never mentioned by him- as in, it will never happen.
Nope. Can't ask those questions. Not acceptable in the Cult of Obama.
Well, you'll have plenty of time to wonder what went so wrong- and why your idol abandoned you and just sailed off to Hawaii without a backward glance. I'm sure that, given time and reflection, you'll conclude it was Bush's fault.
OBAMA IN 2012.
Why are these offensive people STILL allowed to post comments here??? Do they work for MSNBC?? You people need to grow up, you are acting like children! Can't you refrain from name calling? It's TRASHY and OBNOXIOUS!!!
Here is what Axelrod does NOT want you to know -
Gallup does a profile of the electorate on a regular basis; never is it more important than just before an election. In 2004, the electorate broke down as 37% democrats, 24% independents, and 39% republicans. When "leaners" were taken into account, the electorate worked out to democrats + Leaners 48%, and republicans + Leaners 48%. An evenly split electorate returned Bush to office by about 3%.
In 2008, the electorate identified as 39% democrat, 31% independent, and just 29% republican. When "Leaners" were accounted for, the electorate was 54% democrats + Leaners, to 42% republicans + Leaners. A clearly more democratic electorate-12 points- put Obama into office by a 7% margin.
Today? Well, things have changed. Democratic identification is now below 2004 levels- to 35%. Independents account for 29% of the electorate, while republicans edge democrats at 36% of the electorate. With Leaners accounted for, democrats + Leaners make up 46% of the electorate, while republicans + Leaners make up 49%, for a 3% republican advantage.
So, considering that democrats have lost 8 points, while republicans have gained 7- it's pretty safe to predict that:
First, polls with D+9, 11, or some other ridiculous democratic skew can all be tossed into a cocked hat; and
We are looking at a Reagan style landslide.
I ORDER YOU TO STAND DOWN! IT'S ONLY 4 LIVES. IT'S NOT "OPTIMAL" TO SAVE THEM!
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.I AM BARACK OBAMA AND I'M COVERING UP THIS MURDER TO GET RE-ELECTED
PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS!!!
nojoe-
You seem to place this incident much higher on the outage scale than I do.
If the Watergate cover-up is a 10 (after all we call EVERYthing a "Gate" don't we?) on the cover-up scale
And Pearl Harbor and the REAL 9/11 where three thousand CIVILIANS were murdered on American soil is a 10 on the bad intelligence scale.
Where does this tragic intelligence failure and loss of life rate, say as opposed to the Pat Tillman friendly fire tragedy?
It isn't that I fail to see the tragedy or question the crummy intelligence surrounding the incident, but there are arguably similar events that have happened during every administration since Truman, so why has this attack, which unlike almost all prior events of this type (Imagine Beirut, or the FALN bombing of Fraunces Tavern) if we had 24 hour cable news back then)
Every administration has been victimized by these incidents and the frequency has increased since 9/11/2001;
Embassies are attacked, diplomats and embassy personel are murdered, during every administration. When the sense of outrage seems to be limited primarily to the political opposition of the sitting administration, it can easily be argued that they are politicizing the incident for their own gain.
I believe that the incident was terrible, and that like the REAL 9/11 and many other tragedies, with better intelligence may have been avoided. Like most tragedies of this nature, we commenced a bipartisan investigation, learned form the mistakes, made necessary changes in our policies or security arrangements and moved on We are in the midst of an investigation now. The dead will honored and their deaths will be avenged.
There has never been a single incident where waving a bloody shirt, shouting cover-up and pointing fingers at your political enemies has resulted in anything positive.
As to you, me or anyone sagely predicting the outcome of this race...
here's a headline I would love to see, but never will (Courtesy of Jay Leno)
"Psychic Wins Lottery"
Anyway, have a great day...
Rodney Dangerfield: one more to add to your list...1983 US marine barracks in Lebanon attacked - killing 241 US marines. Reagan was not blamed and he was overwhelmingly re-elected in 1984. So this year Benghazi somehow should be blamed on Pres. O? What GOP Repugnant hypocrisy.
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4 More Years.
Epic fail on reading comprehension Robbarlowinshadyma:
No where was it said
Any American death overseas by terrorists is one death too many. Yet, you seem to rely on FAUX news BEFORE all facts are known and that sir, is prejudicial and naive, at best.
The "shoot first, ask questions later" yahoos are the reason we went to Iraq and frankly, thousands died unnecessarily. Pres. Obama was right to vote against going to Iraq and he was right to get OBL. You sir, need to learn to be more deliberate in your thinking. But, I won't hold my breath.
President Obama's record as US Senator on Iraq is slightly different than your contention...He did indeed vote to fund the war until he and Senator Clinton BOTH voted against funding during the 2008 campaign.
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His Senate voting record on Iraq is quite similar to that of Hillary Clinton. Both senators waited until May 2007 before they finally voted to cut off funds for the war, on the grounds that the administration had not agreed to a firm timetable for withdrawal. They both voted against a June 2006 amendment proposed by John Kerry (D-Mass.) for the redeployment of U.S. troops
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_vs_obama_on_iraq.html
Obama has voted for all of the president's war funding requests since coming to the Senate, and is poised to vote in favor of the latest request when it comes to the Senate floor this spring.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/22/obama_defends_votes_in_favor_of_iraq_funding/
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The history is seldom as clear-cut as rhetoric surrounding it.
The rightwingers now live in their Echo Chamber and Cone of Silence with history rewritten (or fixed) to match the agenda. All they can do is whine about one thing after another, blah blah Solyndra, wah wah Fast and furious, boohoo Benghazi, yada yada -- Call the Wambulence!
Pigotry, CRinCali, and others -- We all know the rightwing outrage over Benghazi is because the Romney/Ryan ticket is the WORST ticket ever in history in regard to foreign policy credentials.
In fact, Romney only has passion for business from the perspective of how he can make a sh!tload of money, and if it's at other folk's expense, so be it. Romney only wants to be POTUS because it's the only thing he doesn't already have, and as a controlling CEO who wants to be Boss of Everyone -- and worse believes he is entitled to it.
But it is obvious every time he opens his mouth that he is a salesman who will resort to "gushing" to close the deal. It is obvious Romney has NO passion for politics, current events, public policy -- not domestic and certainly not foreign policy. He is shallow with no depth in understanding of the complex problems of this world, with graduate education from Harvard that he uses only for making profits.
If for no other reason than Slick's unwillingness to be completely transparent and release FULL tax returns for an acceptable number of years, Romney is NOT fit to be at the helm of this great nation. Do not reward such behavior and set such precedence for presidential candidates in the future. Say no, we won't buy your snake oil Romney, now go cry about it in one of your mansions.
Obama/Biden - 2012!
Well, dangerfield, let me address the Watergate issue first-
I was pretty young when that all started- the hearings were on at my house everyday, with my mother giving my father nightly updates at the dinner table. I was as caught up in the drama as everyone else, and, not until I was an adult and had to explain it all to my son did I ever fully analyze what had gone on in an unemotional way. My conclusion?
It was an incredibly stupid scandal- and
It proved that Nixon really did not have a full grasp of reality. If he'd just come clean about the break in, our "long national nightmare" never would have occurred. I've mentioned it before, but the one really rational book that covers that subject is Chris Matthews'. It's a big part of Kennedy vs. Nixon.. It was written before Chris went off the deep end- I highly recommend it.
As to Benghazi- I have made myself as clear as I can about what infuriates me about this:
The White House knew that an obscure video had nothing whatsoever to do with that attack- and lied about it.
For over two weeks.
Those lies actually incited violence in the Muslim world- and no one seems to care one whit about that consequence of those lies.
I do not blame Obama for the intelligence failures prior to the attack- we cannot create a perfect world, and there will be such failures.
I DO blame him for refusing to allocate resources that were requested before the attack- based on some whim of "normalizing relations". Did he think it was France? Obviously not- there are, in fact, armed Marine guards at the embassy in Paris.
I DO blame him for lying about the cause of the attack for two weeks- thus, politicizing the attack. It was he, not Romney, who did that- and he, not Romney, who knew the truth, immediately, but chose to lie instead.
Obama also knows that the attack n our Embassy in Cairo was as a result of the demand that the Blind Sheikh be released- and the only video connection was born of the memo apologizing for same, released by our own embassy personnel. That did, in fact, spur more to show up and protest- but our own people incited that.
Ever ask yourself why this was reported in USA Today on September 12- but the media has dropped it like a hot potato?
Or why Obama himself has not responded that the Blind Sheikh, responsible for the first World Trade Center bombing, will never be released, period, and all the protesting in the world will not move him one iota from that position?
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize that your original premise was, in fact, very apt:
I lived through the national trauma inflicted by a president who refused to tell the truth because he feared it would harm him politically. I see no reason, at this late date, to change my opinion that Americans should not accept a president who lies to them about anything, let alone the cause of four American deaths.
It's not the intelligence failure.
It's the lie.
I read the President's economic plan for the next 4 years. It is devoid of detail and budget. The President expects to realize a savings of more than 2 trillion dollars per year by bringing the troops home in 2014. That is more than twice our total annual expenditure on defense. What the President wants to do is mathematically impossible. Of course the President said that the stimulus would solve our unemployment problem which it did not and our President promised to cut our deficit in half in 4 years and that did not happen either. If reelected the President will most likely end up more than doubling our National Debt in 8 years.
While I must tell you that your assumptions of "knowledge" and your depiction of (at this point) the many conflicting uncorroborated factoids as truth are IMO driven by your bottom line, which is encapsulated in your screen name, I think everyone wants to actually KNOW what happened, on both teams. While I don't see this in the all encompassing way you do, I certainly want to know what happened and how to prevent similar incidents in the future. And if there is culpability that those responsible are dealt with accordingly.
That you project utter certitude as to "who knew what when", the circumstances, intimate knowledge of the inner-workings of the state dept., and incontrovertible proof of responsibility, despite the obvious fact that the official investigation is ongoing, belies a mindset that again is encapsulated in your screen name.
There is a bipartisan committee and an ongoing investigation, so the circumstances and the responsibility for each episode of the greater incident will be presented to the American people. Some of us may feel compelled to actually wait for those legislators who have things like security clearances and access to information not readily available to the general public from partisan websites (both sides nojoe) to give a complete accounting of this tragic incident.
It is that you are so certain and willing to jump the gun to lay blame and extrapolate an entire scenario that is based upon the many conflicting and contradictory statements, emails, uncorroborated statements and speculations (knowing that whether or not I share you political views, i respect your intellect.) before all the facts are in and corroborated, that I was then and now addressing.
No one knows exactly what happened, yet. Ultimately we will, but the dead will stay dead and we the living will learn from our mistakes and move on. Again, waving the bloody shirt, shouting "Cover-up!" and pointing fingers at your political enemies IS politicizing the incident. Like the real 9/11, everyone was affected by what happened, and that INCLUDES the opposition.
The one question that I have about the outrage from the right (and I don't expect you to answer or speak for an entire political bloc) is what the political gain or loss is perceived as being for the administration if it was a terrorist attack or not? It would seem to be an advantage for the administration to have an attack to sabre rattle about and tough talk, as we tend to rally round the CiC as a nation when we are attacked and Americans lose their lives overseas. The electorate would have blamed the terrorists not the President. President Bush was reelected despite the horrors of the real 9/11, President Obama would not be damaged , and could have have benefited from depicting it as a terrorist attack.
When we know all the facts we will know what happened. No one is trying to prevent that, in fact it is exactly the opposite of what we see every day in the press. I will wait for the facts before assigning responsibility, like I did in the Tillman incident.
I apologize in advance for the lack of brevity and partisan invective.
Dangerfield: you are, as usual, spot on.
I think we will find that when the election is over, the incentive for the Republicans to hold "critically important hearings to investigate" this matter will, like their standard bearer, be lost in the remorse for having put their trust in the Tea Party.
What angers me most about the GOP is the sheer hypocrisy. The failures which led to the attacks on 9/11 don't get 1/2 the investigative time, and none of the volume of rhetoric, yet apparently 4 deaths of experienced diplomats and aids/security, who volunteered to be in a known dangerous foreign land are somehow worse than the 3000 deaths of innocent civilians which took place IN THE UNITED STATES.
This is one situation where I truly want to say STFU.
Oh, dangerfield,you are so much better than this. . .
It is NOT about calling it a "terrorist" attack, or not- or which "terrorist" group to blame. . .
There is now, before the public, INCONTOVERTIBLE proof- provided by contemporaneous emails RECEIVED by the White House, that clearly indicated that this was NOT some bunch of rowdies protesting a video that no one ever heard of that got out of hand.
THAT is the lie to which I object. The lie to which YOU, as an American citizen, should object.
I have no issue whatsoever with an explanation of "we don't know who did this, but we will find them".
I have a major problem with any president, of any party, standing forth and promulgating an untruth. So should you- no matter the reason.
"Remember the Maine"? (I'm actually grounded here in Key West- my flight tomorrow was cancelled because they anticipate high winds.). That ship's fire was suspicious- but certainly not set by the Spaniards.
TR used it as an excuse to go to war. I still don't understand the regard in which he is held- based on that lie.
We've already discussed Nixon.
I understand, from your posts, that you have no dog in this race- fair enough. I've left the top of the ticket blank myself. That said, you must admit that I have not called Obama out on the lack of intelligence- but for the lies about the video.
Sorry, but it is all of a piece with this man.
Because Obama's campaign is grounded solely on facts...
#Hypocrites
Obama's comments are directed to what ever audience he's speaking to. Half the time the liar can't remember what comment he said to whom.
Making statements is easy. Apparently true statements are tougher. Backing up your false statements even tougher yet.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2012/10/politifact-tells-the-tale-obamabiden-lead-in-truth-department-romneyryan-tell-more-lies-chart.html
Boy, if that's not Rule 1 of the Karl Rove school of Politics, i don't know what is!!
Absolutely HILARIOUS for a Romney clone to say Obama is "Etch-A-Sketching".
You Republicans are absolutely PATHETIC!
11 more days and these freaks will finally be history.
I can't wait!
Your avatar is appropriate for you - a sheep!
In 11 more days, your candidate will have met his ultimate end as a politician. Thank goodness.
And I didn't have to use typical schoolyard comments when responding to you. Poor liberal.
<facepalm>
it is amazing how the obama team is just grabbing at straws. big bird, binders, romnesia and now complaining that romney does not have momentum.
the have no record to run on so making little things seem important.
what a change from 2008 when obama could do no wrong. now he can do nothing right.
Neither can Willard. Hell, he can't even buy the election, lol.
But tony, people are still sending campaign money to the romney side - Obama is resorting to taking loans from those evil financial institutions he's critical of.
What a chump he is - hey, you may be too!
billybob ... what an absurd post? The Obama team grasping at straws? We take soundbites and throw them back at the Mitt wall just as your team does.
Nothing to offer? No record? Pretty stinking obvious you had NO investments in 2008. I did. I let them sit (as I usually do given market fluctuations in October). They are so up as are those of those that actually got out of their basements and invested in America.
Go grab your Big Gulp straw and go to bed.
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PS ... Grunt ... Romney is still paying off HIS loan! ID10T!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/mitt-romney-campaign-loan_n_1897310.html
Wow. You guys actually put this out as a campaign piece- unlike Huffy-Poo, which ran it as "journalism".
Talk about desperation- Chicago is trying to tlell people those polling numbers are indicative of an Obama surge? Good grief. The land of plaid skies just got even more delusional.
Tell ya what- go check out Gallup. See, they do this identification poll every couple of months- but, never is it so important as just before an election.
There's been a really, really big swing this election- to Republican. As in, more people identify as "hard" republicans as "hard" democrats.
It gets worse for democrats with leaners.
So, what do you suppose that tells you about the election?
This is going to be a Reagan style landslide.
NoJo .... but diss it if you are so bent.
An interesting read … It`s Official, Romney Has Zero Momentum
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/its-official-romney-has-zero-momentum/264141/
Which is why he gained in Gallup, eh blackcat.
You know - official and all.
Too funny.
Of course there is always O's reverse momentum. He was kinda doing a lot better before the old debates.
Yeah you know the most accurate poll is the one that shows my guy ahead...right?
Trash talk is for children and sports. Neither guy is ahead of the MOE in the national aggregate. The state races are the only ones that really indicate any momentum either way and we still have the weekend and the entire week and then another weekend after that before election day and that us a LIFETIME in Presidential politics.
Love it or hate it, we elect Presidents on a state by state electoral college vote, not a popular vote. At this point the popular vote is for all intents and purposes tied. Even a poll that shows your guy (either one) ahead has spiders in the internals.
So be of good cheer, there is still a long, nerve wracking way to go and...
NOBODY-
Is conceding the election tonight
(But He'll be "walking it back" tomorrow morning)
BTW official Gallup is at 48-48 among REGISTERED voters. It's a little bit this and a little bit that.
He would be better off inflating a blow up sex partner. At least there would be some enjoyment.
bait them trolls, bcwc. The closer it gets to Election Day, the angrier the responses will be. Can't wait, lol!
The math and physics wonks at Princeton have a new update as of 6 p.m. and Obama gains a few EC votes ...
Obama 299
Romney 239
NOBODY xyz
... the 8 p.m. Meta-anaylsis reveals a two vote change for Romney bringing Princeton's numbers to:
Obama 297
Romney 241
NOBODY has taken the night off, and so should I.
next thing you know they are going to accuse romney of proposing a $500 trillion dollar tax cut.
ohh, wait -- biden said that today. nothing but the truth from ole joe -- was he in iowa or ohio?
And, if Obama just shuts his eyes real tight and clicks his heels together....
....he will be in Hawaii before he knows it!
There's no place like Hawaii, there's no place like Hawaii. . .
There really IS no place like Hawaii and the President will go visit there after his 2nd term ends in Janaury 2017. But he'll return to Chicago to live - in January 2017!
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Karl Rove, as with George W. Bush, is pulling the strings to his new puppet. A Mormon puppet. Get ready GOP, if Robme wins, magic underwear-Seer Stones-and a Top Hat with Gold Plates will be required. As for the women-get used to the Burka look!
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he can't win...statistically impossible now...early voting and "Bama's ground game are the story here....
Deal=Romney will need 59.02% of the vote on Nov. 6th in Ohio, or he loses the POTUS election.
Reality=Romney has already lost, as this is statistically impossible.
The Obama Train cannot be stopped now....it's over folks, shed a tear for Karl Rove's $, then let's get back to work!
Obama won by 7.2% points in 2008.
He should win by approximately 5 in 2012. 52.2-47.2. Or so.
Just notate it.
(57.5% of voter pool left on Nov. 6th., Obama leads 58-38 among those who have or will vote early.)
Interesting prediction, Noble Savage, hope you are right!
Die Partie ist Romney, und Romney ist die Partie!
Republicans Uber Alles!
Can you say "Seig Heil?"
Not me.
Obama/Biden 2012
Obama DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN OF GOVERNMENT. In his speech he was vague. He never met his promises either:unemployment is high (12 million people looking for jobs), high gas prices, more than $1,000 penalty fee for not having health insurance (obamanocare), high increase taxes for personal and businesses (this will spook investors therefore no jobs), high foreclosures (ohio, the whole midwest, nevada, florida, etc), huge 6 trillion debt for nothing....why being masochist!! hello??? we can not afford 4 more years....we need to be in the shoes for those without a job...Romney is the solution to fix this mess. solo votar por romney....VIVA ROMNEY!!! por el trabajo y los negocios
@Bull,
...we need to be in the shoes for those without a job...
Like Romney could ever imagine that.
Bull, indeed.
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Bull-
What is Robme's 'Plan'...and will it still be the same next week??
Why, No joe! What a pleasure it is to see you appear on this page once again; I was beginning to think you had either gone into hiding, or were so overwhelmed with shame and grief that you just couldn't drag yourself to your keyboard.
Then it occurred to me that the very idea of someone feeling shame who had already publicly stated her support for Mitt, the Hollow Man, was prima facie ridiculous. Of course not! Your fellow repeat offenders, JoAnne Smith, Joe from Albany, Bob from Vaginal Probe, and some lesser lights of the Extreme Wrong whose handles escape me at the moment, have been keeping an unusually low profile all week... not unlike your candidates, eh?
When you're not fully occupied with cooking up buckets of vitriol to hurl at those who you deem your inferiors (which judging by your rantings on this space would seem to include pretty much everybody under God's blue sky), have you given any thought to what your candidate actually stands for?
It would seem, from just a cursory skim of the good Governor's CV, that there is hardly an issue in American public life on which he hasn't taken multiple positions- sometimes asserting two mutually exclusive "core beliefs" in the same day. (We cannot too much admire such flexibility in a man of his years.)
However, when one delves more deeply into his statements, writings, speeches, looking for the essential core of the Republican Party's chosen standard- bearer, it was then that I discovered... more nothingness! (Your party's nomination process is causing even our most open- minded allies abroad to view us askance; you let these people hurl buckets of filth at each other, as they drop out one by one due to embarrasing revelations of financial chicanery, sexual misadventures, or just plain bark-at-the-moon craziness, and the last one still standing is hailed by all of his former antagonists as a great statesman and America's only hope. Speaking of flexibility...)
So I've been wondering- who is Mitt Romney? Can you give me an example of a belief, or a principle, or even an opinion, for Dog's sake, that he's been consistent with throughout his political career? Is there actually some sort of philosophy of governance that guides him through fair weather and foul, or is he, as I suspect, nothing more than a blank canvas onto which every angry, ignorant, badly- informed schmuck can project his or her own vengeful fantasies? Or is he simply a tool for the ultra-wealthy class, chosen by Pope Grover Norquist and financed by his future masters?
I don't expect an answer from you; all of the wrong-wingers I've called out by name (and that included you) have simply ignored me- "Oh, he's not talking to me." Well, I'll still be here after the election. You and your rightie friends- probably not.
**stands and applauds**Simply brilliantly done, FoxTrotsky.
I was busy attending a Paul Ryan rally in Virginia last night.The GOP is energized and excited to put Romney over the top.
Virginia's electoral votes will go to Romney/Ryan, and George Allen will be elected Senator.
In case you forgot, NBC news recently told us Virginia was a virtual lock for Romney.
NBC and the Obama reelection campaign (but I repeat myself) has now retreated to their Midwest firewall, Ohio and Wisconsin...
Thank you, newday; coming from somebody of your oft-demonstrated gifts, that is a compliment I will cherish.
Thank YOU, Fox!
@Bob in Virginia-5210392....
I'll see your Paul Ryan rally and raise you with a President Bill Clinton rallly, that I attended yesterday afternoon........
President Clinton warned about a Public Health Menace, Romnesia..........
Great afternoon with lots of very energetic enthusiastic voters.......
The core belief of Mr. Romney is that he will say/do anything to win and get what he wants. As for a consistent principle throughout his political career, his principle is to always follow the polls and agree with what is popular in the least offensive way possible. He's the best blank canvas they could come up with for the ABO crowd, and he's performed fabulously for those people.
That's the $64,000,000 question. No one knows, not even Romney himself.
I would be honored to "Tango" with you anyday FoxTrot! ☺
You have the nut job from NJ's number... alright!
WALL STREET SAYS MITT ROMNEY IS A LIAR!
All these Romney people are lying phony capitalists I means they don't know the first thing about capitalism and free enterprise and lie to cover that up. The truth is and this is public information that can be checked on Yahoo finance in a historical context so all these phonies for the Republican Party should just SHUT UP!
Simply the fact of the matter is Mitt Romney is lying based on his own standards of the market place, the stock market, and financial holdings:
When President of Obama on that election day November 3rd 2008 before the results were in, , the Dow Jones Industrial Index was $9319.83 and Nasdaq was $1718.89, Nov 2nd, 2008, and when he was inaugurated on January 20, 2009 $7,949.09 and $1,520.76 respectively.
Today respectively those market indicators are almost doubled to $13,107.21 and $2987.15 respectively for the Dow Jones and Nasdaq indexes.
So from the MITT ROMNEY BAIN CAPITAL Wall Street capitalist perspective of investments, equity and returns President Obama is the man under which their at least holdings doubled.
"A senior Obama campaign official told NBC News that their tracking of the handful of battleground states that could decide the election suggests that Romney isn't performing as well as his campaign would have voters believe.."
When David Axelrod tells NBC News anything, they swallow it whole hog...
NBC News is in campaign mode, bowing Brian Williams is hanging out with Obama and feeding him softballs. Tonight Brian Williams listed numerous real and supposed gaffes of the Romney campaign in a derisive manner. No mention or stories about Biden's gaffes, or the Benghazi lies of the Administration.
Bob in the Va***a ...
Be very afraid of people that think, use their brains and vote. You might just encounter one some day when you get your butt out of your basement. I'd suggest your first walk into the sunshine to be the local library ... books, news, magazines ... the supply of knowledge is endless! (As is the internet, but Bubba, you've not got that one down!)
Obama/Biden 2012
@Rob,
Watching live tv... Oh, what channel is this?
FOX
Surprise! not
Obama/Biden 2012
@Rob,
Another Watergate for Woodward.
How sad of a wish for you.
@Rob,
Nicely spoken.
Now go collect your Koch/Rove paycheck.
Obama/Biden 2012
Hey Rob- question for ya, homie.
Were you out there marching or burnin' up the airwaves when those four civilian contractors were murdered in Iraq- their bodies hanged from a bridge, then taken down, burned, and dismembered, with a bloodthirsty crowd cheering every vicious moment?
Were you calling for President Bush's head for allowing those men to go in harm's way? Paul Bremer's? General Petraus'?
Or do Americans being brutally murdered only bother you when it's a Democrat in command? Five thousand needless American deaths in Bush's wars- where were you then, sir?
Right- that's what I thought. You are cordially invited to STFU. You are a disgrace to your country.
@Fox,
BLAM!
@Rob,
Bush lied, and how many died?
Had to "Eat it"?
btw got yer apologist right here, pal.
Obama/Biden 2012
Many of the polls assume that the electorate will be close to 80% white and that the likely voter pool is up to 5% more Republican than the pool of registered voters. I think those assumptions in the battleground states and in many other states are way off. According to the trend of the past three elections, the electorate will be something like 71% white and the difference between likely and registered is AT MOST 2%.
Americans just aren't that into Romney. Americans don't trust Romney, and certainly don't trust lying Ryan.
Per news, Romney has pretty much given up on Ohio and is now trying to win Wisconsin.
Oh and Flordia is now a toss-up state, before is was a lean Romney.
Americans will re-elected President Obama....the best choice in 2008....the best choice in 2012.
GOOGLE is one of the main donores to Obama. Is it just me, or does it bother others that Google has had 4 out of 5 FTC believe that they need to look at anti trust. Those are pretty strong odds. This means that the money Google has brought in is under question,and you guest it, this money has been used for this election.Now the Republicans do not put much faith in anti trust. IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION , that we need to think about this. I want a honest America,red white and blue.I like many of you believe in the boy scout messages. I am afraid that we are not seeing this at this time in history. As an American mother I want to teach my kids ethics.
Well I am sure that the President and his administration's lying about the events in Libya has helped to enhance his image in front of undecided voters. Then there is the case of the President's economic plan for the next 4 years which the President's campaign came out with just after the debates had concluded.
"I’ve got a plan that will actually create jobs, not just talk about creating jobs -- a plan that will actually create middle-class security, not just use the words but not deliver on the promise," Obama said at the same rally in Richmond. "Unlike my opponent, I’m actually proud to talk about what’s in my plan, because the arithmetic works."
I have read the President's plan on the Internet. There are no details and virtually no numbers. It is not much more than a big wish list. There are no budgets. The arithmetic needs numbers to work but there are no numbers, no estimates of how much things that he would like to do are going to cost. The plan talks about cutting but does not really say what is going to be caught. For the plan to work the federal government will have to realize a savings of more than 2 trillion dollars per year by bringing the troops home in 2014. That number is more than twice the size of our current defense budget that includes our expenses for all over seas operations. The arithmetic does not work. The plan uses fantasy economics. The President promised that he would cut the federal deficit in half in four years. That did not happen. The President's administration said that if the stimulus were passed that unemployment would never rise above 8% and that by now unemployment would be less than 6%. That did not happen. Considering the broken promises on the economy, the lack of definition, and the mathematical impossibility, there is no way that one can believe that the President's plan will work. A vote for Obama will be a vote for, at best, another 4 years of what we have been experiencing in the last 4 years only this time the President will not have to worry about being reelected.
Obama said if elected he would even do household chores for congressional GOP leaders to get a bipartisan deficit reduction deal.
He had four years to do that, why now? Could of, would of, should of.
So you are confirming that the Republicans in Congress need some incentive to do what is right for the country. They can not do what needs to be done merely because it is the right thing to do? Voting against everything the President proposed so that he would have difficulty getting re-elected was the ONLY goal the Republicans had. With Obama's second term, they will have to find new goals, or they will all be looking for a job in 2014!
Google as you know is one of the biggest donores for Obama. Does it bother anyone but me that 4 out of 5 FTC believes an anti trust is in question. That would mean the money that Obama has received is questionable.Now as a mother and a grandmother I taught my kids to be boy scouts and live by scout ethics. So this troubles me. Am I alone in my personal opinion on this topic? I taught my kids that Our Flag means something.
This is a necessarily-long post detailing what we know so far about the Benghazi attack. I believe I have brought together information from multiple sources that has not been seen in one place before:
Ambassador Stevens believed strongly that an attack was likely, and made multiple unambiguous requests for additional security in Libya.
In June 2012, the Consulate in Benghazi, Libya was damaged by an improvised explosive device. Stevens reported to his superiors that an Islamist group (Ansar al-Shariah?) had claimed credit for the attack. Shortly after that a British Embassy convoy in Benghazi was also attacked. And again, Ambassador Stevens requested more security forces for Benghazi.
Eric Nordstrom the State Department's Regional Security Officer, and Karen Keshap and Shawn P. Crowley, State Department employees, had all made multiple complaints about the inadequate security in Benghazi. Crowley, had even apologized in an email for "being a broken record" on the subject of inadequate security in Benghazi.
In response to all these requests, the Obama Administration refused to increase security at the US Consulate in Benghazi at all.
On the morning of September 11, Ambassador Stevens signed a three-page cable, labeled "sensitive," in which he noted "growing problems with security" in Benghazi. As before, he was ignored.
On the night of September 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate at about 8:35 PM.
Possibly related to this meeting with the Turkish Consul General: There was a CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate. Part of their mission was to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall, including 20,000 missing shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles. Stevens may have been in Benghazi to negotiate a weapons transfer in an effort to get such missiles out of the hands of Libya-based extremists. Five days previously, the Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border. According to a September 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 800,000 pounds of cargo. Some of it was humanitarian, but it also included a large consignment of weapons headed for the Syrian rebels.
One hour later, at about 9:35 PM on the night of September 11 2012, the Consulate in Benghazi, Libya was attacked by 20 – 100 heavily armed terrorists with rocket propelled grenades and machine guns. Ambassador Stevens, and four of his personnel moved to the compound "safe haven". The terrorists torched the compound with incendiary devices. Information Management Officer, Sean Smith, was murdered during this period.
Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down." Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
To emphasize: The first communications to CIA, reporting the attack, were almost simultaneous with the first shots fired.
Woods and at least two others ignored the orders to stand down and made their way to the consulate which, at that point, was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and the body of Sean Smith. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
Ahmed Abu Khattala, a leader of the Benghazi-based Islamist group Ansar al-Shariah, or "Partisans of Islamic Law," was observed commanding the attack that night.
Tyrone Woods was joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty. They were later killed by a mortar shell at 4 am, nearly seven hours after the attack on the consulate began. Four mortar rounds were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex. The team inside the annex captured three Libyan attackers, but were then forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers or whether they were released by the Libyan forces.
Two military surveillance drones were sent to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.
Two hours after the attack started, Obama was informed through unclassified channels that "the diplomatic mission is under attack. Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well." The SBU (Sensitive But Unclassified) email did not report any crowds, demonstrators or protestors. It is safe to assume that the urgent classified communications from CIA came to Obama and Clinton much sooner, and with far more detail. Other SBU emails, obtained by Reuters, specifically mention that Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks. Again there was never any mention of crowds, demonstrators or protestors.
At about the same time that Obama received the emails two hours into the attack, CIA operators at the Annex called again for military support and help because they were now taking fire. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. One member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. He had a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex, and the operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from. They repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by Special Ops forces to provide support to teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The Gunship was never allowed to take off.
The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. A Special Ops team that specializes in counter-terrorism rescues was also on hand at Sigonella. They could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were told to “wait.”
Throughout the attack, which lasted for approximately seven hours, classified and unclassified information, real time surveillance video, requests for support, and reports from on-site personnel were pouring into the White House Situation Room. The big missing piece of the puzzle at that point was who denied permission for the CIA operators to rescue Ambassador Stevens when the attack started? Who denied the request for military support? Who grounded the Spectre Gunship? Who told the Special Operations Forces to “wait”?
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on October 25 defended the lack of U.S. military response, saying the situation on the ground was “too confusing.”
Twelve hours after the attack began, the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was finally found being dragged through the streets of Benghazi. A Libyan official said “He died suffocation,” but a news report made by the Libyan Free Press reported that Ambassador Stevens was sodomized before he was killed. Question: Where was he during those twelve hours, and what was being done to him? Dragging his body through the streets may have been to hide marks of brutal torture while he was still alive.
The following day Obama made an ambiguous statement that may or may not have acknowledged that this was a terrorist attack.
Immediately after Obama's statement though. administration spokespersons, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, maintained for two weeks that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film. They offered no evidence to support that contention.
After two weeks, faced with all the mounting and incontrovertible evidence, Obama finally admitted that it was a pre-planned terrorist attack.
On October 17 The New York Times reported that "Libyan authorities have singled out Ahmed Abu Khattala, a leader of the Benghazi-based Islamist group Ansar al-Shariah, or "Partisans of Islamic Law," as a commander in the attack." This confirmed the SBU email that Obama had received on September 11.
Had Obama told the truth at the time, he would have been admitting that he had committed a huge error in judgment not to grant the consulate's repeated security requests, especially on the anniversary of 9/11. He clearly had a great deal of motivation to call it a "spontaneous demonstration," and that is exactly what he did!
On October 25, leading congressional lawmakers applied new pressure to the Obama administration for information on the attack: "The American public is increasingly reading information contradicting early accounts by your administration of the causes of the events of the day. "In the absence of your direct engagement to clarify these concerns, the public's frustration and confusion is likely to discredit efforts to achieve our shared goals of justice and accountability for the direct assault on American interests and the deaths of four public servants."
On October 26, A man suspected of involvement in the Benghazi attack was killed in Cairo, Egypt. Authorities named the man only as Hazem.
Sorry for the long post, and I'm afraid it will get longer as more and more information comes to light.
I just for the first time viewed a commercial that has a young girl talking about her "first time". It is not for being deflowered, but for voting. This is the raunchiest, most despicable commercial I've yet to see. Obama and his supporters sink to unprecedented lows at least once a day. Obama and staff are so utterly desperate that they are trying to grab kids who have absolutely no knowledge of Obama's background or the harm he has done to this country and have them vote for them because he is cool. The truth is that there is nothing cool about a failure that deceptively lures young innocents to do something harmful for themselves and this country. Hope our young have sense enough to not vote for a traitor to our Constitution, safety and prosperity.
Romney/Ryan 2012....leaders who do not try to abduct young votes.
M.Romney is a known liar and flip-flopper. He will say anything to anybody that is willing to listen to his Bull$%!t. He brings no specifics to the table and changes like a toilet that's being flushed. For anyone that isn't a multimillionaire and votes for this "Vulture Capitalist" needs their head examined. Luckily for them The Presidents medical care will cover that...
Go figure this liar out. Then get out there and vote...
Everybody needs to know what a crook Romney is:
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Did Romney cost your children 6 trillion more in obamadebt? Did Romney cause foodstamps go up 3 times as welfare 2? Did Romney sell guns to Mexican drug cartels that have been linked to murders of American and Mexicans? Was it Romney sitting in the white house situation room watching a diplomat getting murdered as 3 other American treasures and after not one but 4 times asking(at least) for support, completely ignoring them and then comming out and blameing it on a stinkin video? Arewestupid,,,You are a moron but we are not.
The debt is increased by the interest payments on all the money BUSH BORROWED FROM CHINA!! You are like a spoiled, obnoxious teen-ager who gets a hold of credit cards and makes charges up to the roof, and can't pay the bills. Then you get furious with Bank-of-Mom for not paying it off for him more quickly. Interest, interest, compounding INTEREST! Figure it out.