Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama for president

Why?

Powell explained his choice to Charlie Rose and Norah O'Donnell:

When he took over, the country was in very very difficult straits. We were in the one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression. The fiscal system was collapsing. Wall Street was in chaos, we had 800,000 jobs lost in that first month of the Obama administration and unemployment peaked a few months later at 10 percent. So we were in real trouble. The auto industry was collapsing, the housing was start[ing] to collapse and we were in very difficult straits. And I saw over the next several years, stabilization come back in the financial community, housing is now starting to pick up after four years, it's starting to pick up. Consumer confidence is rising."

Summarizing the past four years under Obama, Powell said "Generally we've come out of the dive and we're starting to gain altitude." He acknowledged that problems remain, saying "The unemployment rate is too high, people are still hurting in housing but I see that we're starting to rise up."

Turning to foreign policy, Powell said he saw "the president get us of one war, start to get us out of a second war and did not get us into any new wars. And finally I think that the actions he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very very solid. And so, I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on."

Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

"One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

Powell also criticized congressional leaders for not living up to their responsibilities, mainly around resolving the approaching fiscal cliff.

"The major problem faced either by Gov. Romney or President Obama, whoever wins the election, is going to be what to do about the fiscal cliff we're about to fly over," Powell said.

"This is something that was put in place by Congress and while we're talking about the two candidates for president let's not forget that Congress bears a lot of responsibility for many of the problems that we have now. They're the ones that write the appropriations bills. They're the ones that pass the legislation for more spending and for the various entitlement programs that people have trouble with."

Gen. Powell last joined "CBS This Morning" in June, and at the time remained noncommittal about his support for either candidate in the race for the White House. "Whatever judgement I have right now would be incomplete. I haven't seen everything that Mitt Romney is going to do. I haven't seen how our economy is going to play out," he said in June.

And, despite his endorsement of a Democratic candidate in two presidential elections, Powell says he remains a Republican. "I think I'm a Republican of a more moderate mold," he said before adding, "That's something of a dying breed I'm sorry to say."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57539893/colin-powell-endorses-barack-obama-for-president/?tag=AverageHero

That and that MYTH

And this too>>> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcbq3v8lj11qz581wo2_500.gif

4 more 4 the second coming of 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Ol Grovers and Mittens heads must be exploding this am....CEOs supporting a tax increase along with budget cuts

Chief executives of more than 80 major U.S. corporations, ranging from Boeing to
Caterpillar and Allstate, are calling on Congress to cut the federal deficit by
boosting tax revenue as well as cutting spending, The Wall Street Journal
reports.

Read more: WSJ: Top US CEOs Urge Congress to Cut Deficit, Boost Tax Revenue

Remind me RWNJ ...whats Mittens position on any revenue increase?

Bill - since Mitt was so very rude in the 1st debate I see it the President had no choice but to do this in the last 2 debates. If it was ok for mitt to interrupt the President of the United States then it should be ok for the President to interrupt Mitt - what is good for the goose is ususally good for the gander. President Obama is a nice guy, bet he is like my husband and a little like my dad too - nice and even tempered but they can only take it so long and once they have had enough the gloves come off and once they come off you know where you stand - no grudges and an apology will set things to right again, but without one the other person can forget about it - may as well not even be in this world. It is a logic I understand very well and except when I have to make exceptions for work I live by the same principle and happen to respect the President very much for standing up to Mitt and his rudeness.

Puh-lease asks:

"So if the birth from a rape is intended by God, the rape must be intended by God, right"

It would appear that is the case, at least in the mind of the person who said such a thing. It also means there is no such thing as free will.

Why …

Did Romney not mention our soldiers during his acceptance speech?

Did Romney not mention our soldiers during the final debate?

It has become very clear that for Mitt Romney our military men and women are only an afterthought

Getting pretty desperate Bill to resort to these whining arguments... I guess when your candidate Romney is disrespectful to the President of the United States at every turn then it is ok...

BTW Romnesia is the perfect way to describe a candidate that will say one thing for 18 months then shift to a new more moderate position weeks before the election He will say anything to get elected.

Vote Obama/Biden 2012!

A bit of good news:

A McKinsey & Co. study of crises in recent decades found that the United States is mirroring the pattern of countries with the strongest recoveries. It noted that “Debt in the financial sector relative to GDP has fallen back to levels last seen in 2000, before the credit bubble. US households have reduced their debt relative to disposable income by 15 percentage points, more than in any other country; at this rate, they could reach sustainable debt levels in two years or so.”

Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhart, the leading experts on financial crises, argue that the United States is performing better than most countries in similar circumstances. U.S. consumer confidence is at its highest levels since September 2007.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/fareed-zakaria-the-us-economy-is-recovering-well/2012/10/24/9c34df9e-1df0-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_story.html?hpid=z2

I guess when your candidate Romney is disrespectful to the President of the United States at every turn then it is ok

agn,

Don't forget about his son Tagg who wanted to take a swing at the President!

How does it feel to be the antelope for a change Mr. Bill? lol

The hyena from Albany should be along shortly for the carcass clean up!

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

The KOCH BLOCKING GOP always VOTED "NO" to create JOBS!!!...

Sep 12__S.3457____Veterans Jobs Corps Act, S.Amdt.2789 --- NO
Jul 17__S.3364____Bring Jobs Home Act --- NO
Jul 11__S.2237____Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act --- NO
Jun 29__S.2237____Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act --- NO
Jun 5___S.3240____Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012 --- NO
Dec 15__H.R.3630__Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act of 2011 --- NO
Nov 30__S.1917____A bill to create jobs by providing payroll tax relief for middle class families and businesses --- NO
Nov 3___H.R.674___3% Withholding Repeal and Job Creation Act --- NO
Nov 1___S.1769____Rebuild America Jobs Act --- NO
Oct 6___S.1660____American Jobs Act of 2011 --- NO
Sep 24__S.3816____Creating American Jobs and Ending Off-shoring Act --- NO
Aug 5___H.R.5297__Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010 --- NO
Jun 23__H.R.4213__American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act of 2010 ---NO

This nation cannot afford four more years of GOP obstruction.

Mr. Powell's endorsement is again a real plus for our President. He's so well thought of by everyone in both parties. And Romney endorses Candidate (Mourdock) who says "RAPE IS GODS WILL." What kind of a Party are these Republicans? Sickos.

OBAMA IN 2012.

As a Native Californian I want to Thank The good Citizens of Ohio for Voting for POTUS Obama and if Ohio stays the same 5pts ahead of Robme , Obama WILL GET 4 MORE YEARS........ SUCK ON THAT CHEESER DISGUSTUS

Obama/Biden 2012 Because our Seniors need a chance to Retire, and not worry about working until they are 85 to pay the extra $8,000.00 to cover a Robme/Lyin Ryan Voucher

As others have noted :}

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October 25, 2012 7:56 AM
Collin Powell endorses Barack Obama for president

(CBS News) Former Secretary of State Colin Powell broke with the Republican party during the 2008 election, to endorse then-candidate Barack Obama for president, calling Obama a "transformational figure."

With 12 days to go before the presidential election, Powell publicly endorsed President Obama for re-election on "CBS This Morning" Thursday

"I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012 and I'll be voting for he and for Vice President Joe Biden next month."

Powell explained his choice to Charlie Rose and Norah O'Donnell:

When he took over, the country was in very very difficult straits. We were in the one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression. The fiscal system was collapsing. Wall Street was in chaos, we had 800,000 jobs lost in that first month of the Obama administration and unemployment peaked a few months later at 10 percent. So we were in real trouble. The auto industry was collapsing, the housing was start[ing] to collapse and we were in very difficult straits. And I saw over the next several years, stabilization come back in the financial community, housing is now starting to pick up after four years, it's starting to pick up. Consumer confidence is rising."

Summarizing the past four years under Obama, Powell said "Generally we've come out of the dive and we're starting to gain altitude." He acknowledged that problems remain, saying "The unemployment rate is too high, people are still hurting in housing but I see that we're starting to rise up."

Turning to foreign policy, Powell said he saw "the president get us of one war, start to get us out of a second war and did not get us into any new wars. And finally I think that the actions he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very very solid. And so, I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on."

Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

"One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

Powell said that he did not give either candidate early notice of his endorsement, but that he has "the utmost respect for" and spoke to Gov. Romney several weeks ago, and speaks to President Obama regularly.

He added that with this endorsement, he "signed on for a long patrol with President Obama" and that he feels more comfortable with Obama's stances on climate change, immigration, and education.

____

Finally a prominent republican tells it like it is. Well said Mr. Powell, well said.

THANK YOU President Obama for rescuing the American Auto Industry from collapse. Thank you for saving jobs, and creating a million jobs. American Auto is roaring back, #1 in the world.

Along with other states, OHIO WOULD HAVE COLLAPSED without the President's actions to save Auto and related jobs in Ohio.

Thank You Mr. President!

Romney got it dead wrong, when he repeatedly recommended letting the Auto industry die.

The GOP Created huge deficits, started unfunded wars, sold us out to China, Stole from Medicare and Social Security, unfunded tax cuts, bogus loopholes, destroying Unions (in progress), wage freezes, regulation manipulation, etc.

They have been on a middle class crushing marathon, and still going at it.

Should the very worst happen and Romney lies, suppresses the vote and snatches "victory" from voters and gets elected, 2008 will look like a walk in the park.

This country will not be a livable place.

We can look forward to a collapsing Medicare program, a stripped Medicaid program, hungry Americans due to a stripped food stamp program, women stripped of rights to their own health care decisions, and college students who can no longer afford college due to drastically increased interest on student loans if they are even available.

We can look forward to wars in Iran and Syria, because war is good business for Mitt's buddies.

Go ahead and vote for another republican president!

I'm sure they have another recession or depression in them!

And they will laugh at the sinking middle class and poor while they count their money!

Canada and Mexico will have to close their borders by 2014 because of Americans running away from servitude.

It will be the end of the greatest country on earth - By 2016 The USA will be a shell Corporation and China will be the largest stockholder.

This nation cannot afford any more GOP obstruction.

David Walker, excellent post. The GOPTP really is a crocabalone. They point their fingers at President Obama for the deficit and debt that THEY, the GOP, created from 2001 through 2008; they paid for nothing, absolutely nothing. The GOP claims to support small government, yet they legislate big, intrustive government into the bedrooms and doctors offices nationwide; they legislate their personal religious beliefs and force them on everyone else.

Great news that General Colin Powell endorses President Obama.

I don't have the links right now, but there's a story brewing about how Mitt Romney may have lied under oath about the value of Staples stock when the CEO of the company was going through a nasty divorce. Romney allegedly low-balled the value of the stock so that the CEO could pay less in alimony. This probably won't be covered by the "mainstream" media, but you can probably find an article on Huffington Post or one of the evening MSNBC shows.

No republicon has won without winning Ohio. It looks like the only way Robme can win there now is if Tagg steals it.

Bainport, Illinois is close by and the people of Ohio have to wonder if Bain is coming for their job next.

Romney Ignores Bainport While Trying to Take Back 47% Comments

Lets Remember folks that We still have Radical Extremists Overseas that will try and Harm us here in America, with the way Romney Waffles on everything is he the person YOU want to guard you from these people? Will your children be safer from Terrorist attacks If Robme is elected POTUS? The answer is very Clear and GENERAL Colin Powel stated just as much, He was on the front lines and if the GENERAL says Romney is not going to keep us SAFE. Vote for Pres. Obama, He has kept us SAFE and HE will continue to keep us SAFE

jody: Exactly what jobs did you apply for that required college transcripts???? I have been in the workforce for decades and have NEVER been asked for college transcripts.

So do you feel the same about Mitt needing to release his tax returns for several years like President Obama did and Mitt's father?

To understand the Republican mindset, read this statement by McCain.

John McCain, R-Arizona, said on CNN on Wednesday that his support for Richard Mourdock was dependent on an apology from the Republican Senate candidate for his remarks that pregnancies caused by rape are intended by God

You can say anything you want as long as you apologize for it. Like that somehow is better than just saying he is an idiot and there is no way I can support him or his position. Anything to win an election. Control of the Senate is more important than subjecting the citizens of the United States to people like Mourdock and Todd Akin.

Ohio lost many manufacturing jobs over the last 30 years. Steel manufacturing declined and auto manufacturing was threatened in 2008-2009 recession. Ohio was paying attention when Obama fought to save GM and Chrysler and their parts suppliers.

I recall a whole bunch of Southern state senators saying "let them go bankrupt" as they pursued their own state's self interest. Many Southern states have auto plants owned by Japanese and Koreans and Germans. These Republican Southern state Senators wanted Ohio and Michigan to lose their auto plants, so their Southern states could get more jobs when the recession was over and auto sales rebounded.

Ohioans remember this "me first" attitude of many Republicans in 2008, 2009. Obama overcame this opposition to save those jobs in Ohio and Michigan and other states where GM and Chrysler operated.

For me, I like to compare saving the auto industry in the North from the combination of recession, high gas prices, and bad gov't policy (of letting fuel mileage standards lapse) to helping the South recover from a devastating hurricane.

After a hurricane, the Southern states affected always cry out for Federal help. In the North, we don't have much storm damage although we do pay more to deal with snow and ice in the winter. and the deteriorating roads and bridges due to freeze thaw cycle and salt damage. We don't get any additional Federal help to deal with these additional costs and we don't complain about it much. But, I don't hear people from the North saying we shouldn't help those storm victims in the South.

The last recession was like an economic storm that threatened to consume GM and Chrysler. The South's representatives protested "we shouldn't help them".

The people of Ohio remember.

President Bush left office and America was losing more than 750,000 jobs per month.
President Obama came into office when we were on pace to lose more than 9 million jobs a year.
That's a pace to lose more than 36 million jobs in 4 years when President Obama came into office.

Don't trust the judgement or advice from anyone who voted for President Bush.
Their advice resulted in an economy that was on pace to lose over 36 million American jobs from 2009-2012.

Rick -- That article DID NOT come from WASHINGTON POST and was NEVER published there. Liar.

YOUR POST will be deleted.

Here is the scoop on that article according to SNOPES. Busted RICK!!!!!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/affirmative.asp

First READ -- Please delete Rick's post asap!

Jody#'s, I started working in 1966, never once was I asked for my high school or college transcripts; the only thing employers can check is that you graduated or earned the degree you claim. In fact, in order for the government--when doing security clearance background checks--to see college records and transcripts, a person must sign a release authorizing colleges and universities to release them.

Colin Powell

"I think I'm a Republican of a more moderate mold," he said, "That's something of a dying breed I'm sorry to say."

Thank you General Powell.

Mr. David Walker: Sir, You are good. I like my NY Times, and generally the AJC each am. I also now, thoroughly enjoy "Walking and Talking" with Walker each am as well. Regards, Mac

JH - lotsanumbers:

The fact is you don't need any names. I'm tempted to write that you know better than that, but at this point, I don't think you do know. At the height of the civil rights movement, there was very little common ground between southern and northern Democrats. Today's southern Republicans hold the same mindset of the Democrats of a half-century ago. Nothing is going to change that fact.

You want to cling to the notion that Dixiecrats "jumped" to the Republican column. Go ahead, but that's not how it happened. The old Dixiecrats eventually retired, but behind them came the Republican wave we see today....represented by racists, bigots, and knee-jerk reactionaries.

We started in 2000 with annual surpluses with the Clinton tax rates, then enacted the Bush tax cuts, immediately started racking-up huge deficits, and the Republicans now try to convince us the problem is one of "over spending."

Republicans could apply that economic theory to unemployment and reassure the jobless that they are just "over-spending."

The manufactured confusion over the cause of the federal deficit would be more credible if the entirely predictable result had not been foreseen as early as the 2000 presidential debates, when Al Gore rightly criticized George W. Bush's irresponsible tax-cut scheme when he first proposed it.

Why would Americans fall for such a scam? How could such an assault on middle-class interests and prosperity be so brazenly and openly perpetrated? Surely Americans are not fools or amnesiacs and remember why these government programs were necessary in the first place.

Will middle-class America passively acquiesce as their country is looted in order to further enrich the already wealthy?

Unfortunately, Republicans do run government like a business in that they sell this steaming turd like modern American corporations do -- with slick propaganda and deceptive advertising on TV. Just as they lie that deficits are caused by "over-spending" instead of "tax cuts," Republicans now utilize rigid message discipline and clever distortion--mixed with shameless lies -- more resembling a psychological warfare operation than traditional political campaigns.

Like our hypothetical Republican "businessmen," Republicans in Congress and in state governments they control have embarked on a radical program of governmental disestablishment through tax cuts and the resulting de-funding of necessary government functions. State governments across the country are staging "going out of business" sales and liquidating state assets to private corporations at bargain prices.

When democratically elected, accountable governmental power is disestablished, unaccountable corporate power will fill the void. That's what Republican blather about "over spending" really means.

Folks, VOTE Obama, otherwise you will have yourselves to blame when we return to the difficult Bush (Republican) years...

Talk is cheap...dont be fooled Ohio!

Obama/Biden 2012

Hillary 2016

I read where the Republicons are up to there old Tricks in sending out flyers in the mail telling citizens that they are not eligible to vote. I know , I Know some of you Reich Wing Knuckle Dragging American Taliban are going to say that a Majority of those people that got the letters where Republicons, and That proves my Point that Republicons did it. If it was The Democrats everyone who received the letter would be Republicons... We have said for a long time Republicons are bottom feeders on the IQ Scale

Obama/Biden 2012

Because your middleclass way of life depends on it

Pat, you are talking about the PPP poll in Virginia?

The actual number might be Obama +1 at best, then again maybe not.

In Virginia's big heavily dominated Democrat base areas of Alexandria, Arlington and Fairfax are Down an average of 10% while the only real Republican County of Loudoun is up 14%.

While PPP did reduce the expected Democrat turnout from 39 - 37%, the real turnout is pointing toward a 35 OR 36% turnout. Meanwhile PPP increase the Republican side by 1 point or from 33 to 34% or an increase of ony 5% instead of the 14% early voting and Absentees are showing.

PPP should be using 35.2% Democrat and 37.6% republican. With all the give aways and take aways Romney is actually ahead in Virginia BEFORE the undecideds kick in which, given the history, will either vote for Romney or not vote at all.

Barack Obama ‏@BarackObama

Obama: "Women should be making their own health care decisions. That’s why the health care law we passed put those choices in your hands."

Forward>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden 2012

4 more 4 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Hey Chris Dorr. I wonder why you are First POST nearly every morning on FT? Do you sit around and hit F5 waiting? Do you have a life? Does it make you feel good to get the talking points out in the morning? Sad part is the following few posts are by the same clowns every morning. DW, Feisty the Hun, Navy. The liberal cirlce jerk daily. Look no one on FR or FT is changing their minds voting wise. I hate to tell you but I doubt there are any undecided voters hangin out here waiting to be woo'ed by either side. SO I will vote like my middle class income needs it, I will vote Romney. Because the last 4 years arent Bush's fault, and Obama has done little to alleviate anything. Looks like Housing isnt getting better and the jobs numbers dont sound too promising either. We need change and that means Obama must go. But you lefties remember to Vote early and Vote Often. Because Voter Fraud is bad, unless you're a FR lefty liberal.

feisty is NBC!

David walker, you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to civil rights opposition. you cannot change history, there was no party switch, the democrats are just as racist today as they were when they tried to block the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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http://dailybail.com/home/hushed-but-not-forgotten-the-democrat-partys-long-and-shamef.html

David Walker, thanks for the grin this morning. To bad there isn't a bird named malarkey.

shaak - If you think the Southern States are crying now, just wait till Mitt cuts Medicaid by 200 billion. Those funds help with seniors who have to retire to nursing homes. The Southern States will have to make up for those funds or kick them out. Leaving the Southern States to pay additional taxes for Northerners that have worked and paid taxes their entire lives in the North that decide to retire in the South. Good luck to Floridians. The current method allows the government to allocate funds to the states with the greatest need. That is one reason why so many Red States in the South receive more Federal funding than they pay in.

Chris, Dorr, MI

Excellent point Dennis! Mitt Robme is a veteran and American military hater! He doesn't even know how to talk about our most precious hero's.

Where are your tax returns Mr. Robme?

Chris, MYTH didn't worry. Looking at the swing states and Ohio, the number of absentee ballots and early voters MYTH is losing it (pun intended).

The right wing has lost the election of 2012.

The evidence for this is overwhelming, yet it is the year’s best-kept secret. Mitt Romney would not be throwing virtually all of his past positions overboard if he thought the nation were ready to endorse the full-throated conservatism he embraced to win the Republican nomination.

The right is going along because its partisans know Romney has no other option. This, too, is an acknowledgement of defeat, a recognition that the grand ideological experiment heralded by the rise of the tea party has gained no traction. It also means that conservatives don’t believe that Romney really believes the moderate mush he’s putting forward now. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if the conservatives are forgiving Romney because they think he is lying, what should the rest of us think?

http://www.reflector.com/opinion/election-letters/dionne-conservatism-losing-2012-1293079

GO TIGERS!

4 MORE FOR 44!

Elliot, crocabalone (pronounced crock-a-baloney), You are absolutely wrong about the southern democrat. David Walker is spot on. The civil rights act came down to north against south and had very little to do with political parties.

On a different topic to this thread, On The Trail: Defiance OH. The ONLY way Romney is going to get any kind of a crowd there tonight is the same way the GOP did for McCain four years ago (and this was verified by my sister who was an elementary teacher back then...just retired in May)...they REQUIRE the schools in the county and neighboring counties to bus in the school children, from K-12...yes, I said Kindergarten...and tonight they have two bands playing trying to make sure they get the older teens/young adults. In other words, most of the attendees won't be there to hear Romney's lies but there because they were either required to be there or there only to hear the bands.

I can't wait to read the posts here after election day. It seems this election has been going on for ever. It will be interesting to see which way this country will head. Are enough people better off now than four years ago? Do the people like the government running up huge deficits and making more and more people dependant on the government? Do we want to end up like the counties over in Europe? Do we want to become a socialist country? These questions are soon to get answered.

Great post, Bill; I was reminded the other day that the same thing happened in 1992, when GHW Bush was running for re-election. Once he started name calling, it was clear the election was over for him.

The worst job in the world must be the one held by whoever brings Obama the results of their own internal polls.

In the last couple of days, even Letterman called Obama out for lying about Romney's stance on the auto bailout- and invited people to read the editorial. Obama must believe no one would- surprise! They did.

This, added to the daily revelations of one lie after another told to the American people regarding the Benghazi attacks, which, in my opinion, is directly related to the erosion of Obama's support among women and independent voters.

Then Obama goes out and talks about how important "trust" is during a campaign. The man's narcissism knows no bounds.

We've had incompetent presidents before-Jimmy Carter comes to mind- but never, in my lifetime, have I experienced a president with such contempt for the American people.

Why and how has he gotten away with it until now? Well, read the article above- and their swooning description of the polling in ABC/WaPo that indicates Obama garnering 75% of the Latino vote. Gee. You'd think that was unprecedented. The fact is, most observers were shocked that Bush garnered almost 30% of the Latino vote.

Funny thing: not mentioned in this article is that in that same poll, Romney is up with independent voters- 30% of the electorate- by 12 points.

That, by the way,is why Romney is going to win.

So let me guess, DW is trying to paint an irrelevant narrative? Is he also trying to claim anyone that doesnt acknowledge his great rhetoric and agree are neanderthals? Why am I not shocked at any of this

Ticked off in OH - Romney also said in that article, "IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye."

Problem with Romney's plan was that he was assuming private companies would bail out the auto companies. You know what they say about assuming. If you believe that in the middle of worldwide economic crisis, that at the time companies didn't know how deep it would go, that some private company was simply going to bail out HUGE auto companies in America, when they are not even the leaders in the industry, you sir are sadly mistaken.

New Polls out show Romney losing big in Key States, looks like Mitt's run for the White House is Finish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheesar, Wow! What a whiner. Are you part of the 47%? Does your middle class income pay any federal taxes? I guess I'm a class traitor- we are in the top income bracket and we feel good about paying taxes- and are thankful we live in a country with great opportunities. How about you?

@Backhouse

FALLOUT: The Romney/Ryan/AynRand policies will dramatically increase poverty. We'll create less revenue and create more deficit. The cost of health care will skyrocket. More folks will use Emergency care (Romney recommends it). Infant mortality will rise. As a nation, our health will tank. We'll be less competitive economically.

Why so worried? You have just described the current Administration's record, and if we give him four more years what will change?

Poverty

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, “the gap between rich and poor Americans grew in 2011 as the poverty rate remained at almost a two-decade high,” while 25.7 million women live in poverty, which is another record high.

In addition, 16.3% of women now live in poverty, which is the highest rate in 17 years, and the number of families living in poverty increased to 9.5 million, another record high.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/12/Census-Bureau-Poverty-At-Record-Levels-Under-Obama

Deficits

That means at a minimum the Obama administration is responsible for $2 trillion, or 39 percent of the $5.17 trillion in deficits since fiscal year 2009.

Looking ahead, Obama has promised if reelected to allow the Bush-era income tax cuts to expire for upper-income taxpayers, raising the top two tax rates from 33 percent and 35 percent to 36 percent and 39.6 percent. But he would keep the tax rates at the Bush-era levels for everyone else. Obama’s plan would cost the federal government $3 trillion over 10 years compared with $3.7 trillion if he allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to remain in place.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

Healthcare Costs

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s latest report on employer-provided insurance, the average family premium climbed 4.5 percent this year. That’s more than twice the current inflation rate — and comes on top of a 9.5-percent increase last year. In other words, since Obamacare was enacted, family premiums have climbed nearly $2,000.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2012/10/01/another-broken-obama-promise-the-healthcare-cost-monster-emerges/

Competetiveness

• The Global Competitiveness Report 2012-2013 ranks countries based on 12 pillars of competitiveness such as strength of institutions, higher education and training, and business sophistication.

• This year, the United States ranked seventh in the world, falling three spots since 2010.

• Prior to President Obama coming into office, the United States was the number one country for business competitiveness for three consecutive years.

http://reports.weforum.org/global-competitiveness-report-2012-2013/

So if you are unwilling to support Romney because you believe this will be the outcome, how can you support Obama when this is actually his record?

Avg Joe -- We will not become like the countries over in Europe if we take a slower approach to reducing our debt and deficits. If we try to do this swiftly and sharply THEN we will experience what the countries in Europe are going through. Yes, we need to get our financial house in order, but we have to do it WISELY.

Read the links in my "A bit of good news" post.

im sure you are anxious. Im sure you're in the top income bracket. and Im the Pope. but really cheesar? is that all you have? there is a reason why you monkey's are considered uncivilized. I'll let you try to figure it out.

DBAkron:

TPM: The president's lead in Virginia is now a little more than 2 points, according to the PollTracker average, which places the battleground in the "leans Obama" column on the TPM Electoral Scoreboard.

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I'm really interested in Kaine. He seems to be holding onto the lead in VA, and I'm wondering - if Kaine wins the Senate seat, will that carry over to Obama winning the state as well?

If you say Socialism, Socialist, Muslim, Kenyan, Birth Certificate, College Records in any statement that you are trying to make on these Boards. I immediately assume you grabbed your Mom or Dads Computer and are goofing off, because real intelligent people know better. Now children get off the Computer and get to class..

and Cheeser Disgustus that means you to. PS Have you found a JOB Yet? and if not, you wont find 1 sitting on your A$$ hitting the Keys on the computer show some moxy , pull yourself up by the Bootstraps,

Obama/Biden 2012 because thats the only way we are going to get Cheeser Disgustus and DBAkron and other American Taliban to get Jobs and quit being part of the 47%

12 more days until Mutt starts his 'apology tour' to his real constituents- millionaires who pumped big bucks into this failed campaign.

It's got to kill Muttster that the day after he made a commercial for Mourdock, that buzzard said on video tape "rape is what God intended". Then as stupidly as his campaign has been, Mutt doubles down in support for Mourdock. How dumb!

Romney says they have 'momentum' but he has never led in the swing states since nomination- and he's behind by the most recent polling in the coveted Ohio by 5 points. You have to wonder how his support for Mourdock will drain points off his polling numbers in this critical time in the campaign. Democrats have an ad out already, primed to run in those states Romney is behind in, adding to the image of the war on women the Republicans seem to embrace.

Looks like he should start that apology tour bus soon!

About Benghazi attack. Many terrorist groups in the past have sought to claim credit for a terrorist attack. It helps them promote their group to radicalized wealthy donors. They make money doing this. Many of their claims are found to be false.

That a group claimed responsibility for a terrorist attack does not make it so. Facts need to be gathered to determine who was responsible for attack. Of course. a group that does claim it did attack will move to the top of the list of who our investigators look at.

Jumping to conclusions may work for political opportunists in the short run, but a thorough investigation is what is needed to determine who is truly responsible. The FBI is doing such an investigation as we speak.

As for Ohio.

This article is only telling Half of the Story. Yes Cuyahoga County is huge, expecially since Obama won by only 262,000 votes and Cuyahoga County supplied the largest margin of victory for him with 258,000 votes.

Cuyahoga county also supplied 75,000 of the 438,000 new voter registrations came from the county. But, in those registrations, the republican registrations were up signfificantly to the Democrat ones.

Republicans beat Democrats in absentee ballots requested, but democrats are returning them quicker than Republicans.

What the national Twits are not considering is that republicans use Summit, Medina to offset Cleveland gains. The developing story is that Republicans registrations are up significantly in Stark, Portage, Trumbull, and Mahoning Counties.

In 2008, Hamilton County was down a bit in the turnout, but most significant was Franklin County. This is the staunch conservative county in Ohio. They did not like McCain and did not turn out. Don't expect that to be the case this year. They too were stung by Obama and will turn out this year.

Ticked off in Ohio -

Did you even read the Op Ed you linked to? You failed to mention these parts of Romney's argument:

If General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye....

...Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.

In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

(emphasis added)

Romney explicitly argued against a government bailout. He predicted that if we bailed out the auto companies they would fail. He argued for a privately funded bankruptcy, even though in the midst of the "Credit Crunch" there were NO banks or private equity firms that were willing to finance it - even Bain Capital declined!

The end result of a non-government regulated bankruptcy would most likely have been liquidation, especially for Chrysler. The delay and uncertainty over private bankruptcy proceedings would have devastated the many small businesses and auto parts suppliers dependent on GM and Chrysler and would have resulted in major job losses and more bankruptcies.

Romney also wanted to reduce the wages, benefits and retirement pensions of the auto workers, causing severe hardship for thousands of families.

Like the President said, you can try and "airbrush history" but it is a cold hard fact that Romney argued against the automotive bailout that President Obama supported.

The people of Ohio will not forget that.

As far as your other point, I live in an Ohio county that is very Republican and I still see alot of Obama yard signs and bumper stickers. Every poll has shown President Obama with a lead in Ohio, and I am convinced he will win with around 51%.

In addition to Obama's superior Ohio "ground game", the auto bailout, the improving Ohio economy, and lingering resentment over Rep. Gov. Kasich's attempt to "bust" the private unions are all reasons to believe President Obama will be victorious in Ohio.

Prepare to be even more "Ticked Off" on Nov. 7th.

Ticked Off in Ohio MUST be John Boehner as he sees it all slipping away.

He really supports a candidate that wanted to manage the bankruptcy to insure that middle class workers lost their pensions?

And he wants us to believe that some how the private sector was going to free up the cash to keep the doors open?

What rock was he under four years ago? Seriously.

Romney wanted to BREAK the auto industry and the unions once and for all. Just like he broke many of the companies through Bain,...by raiding the pensions and zeroing out those 'obligations' - all for a fee and a profit.

The man isn't fit to represent the 47% he holds in such disdain, nor is he fit to serve the remaining 52% he would break so that he and his fellow 1% ers can be the KINGS that they were BORN to be.

So Ticked, please take your meds and shut your pie hole. You are not fit to tell us what we SEE with our own eyes! Your candidate is a lying snake of a man who will and has said ANYTHING to sway the masses. Pat yourself on the back and congratulate yourself for being Duke of the Duped.

The rest of us are taking a major PASS on this bridge to nowhere.

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oh and jody lotsanumbers,...WTF is your problem? Why on earth would you be concerned about the Presidents Transcript? Because some @!$%# in a bad hair piece tells you to be? The President graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law. He was ELECTED by his peers to preside over the Law Review. What part of that is open to speculation? If you actually had a college degree you would understand why the rest of us are mocking you. No doubt your employers wanted proof that you ever attended college. Not to see your GPA.

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Man, I hate stupid. And before I've had my caffeine, even. Sheesh!

You know Romney is surging when you see the number of desperate posts from Obama supporters or employees in the Narwhale room, whichever. They are beginning to remind me of a scene in the movie Deliverence. I knew a victim could develope a relationship with thier perp, but I didn't realize it could go to this extent.

The media, First Read, included is out there stumping with and for Obama. Must be they know if he loses they just might have to start reporting the real news. Do they remember how I wonder? Now I understand Obama is promising to bring out his old "Grand Compromise" or some such nonsense. How does that go? Oh, yeah "I promised you roses last time and gave you skunk weed but but but this time, really honey, I'll bring the roses". Yeah and there is swamp land to be purchased by all who buy this one.

Clara KCMO

BRAVO...BRAVO...ENCORE....ENCORE..

: )

Obama/Biden 2012

Rumors that Romney fell on his face with the Powell endorsement !

@DBAkron

Yesterday you suggested I Pray about my vote.

I have been praying for the last four years that Christians would follow the Bible

and stop

judging the President when he says he is a Christian.

"Judge not lest ye be Judged"

California Tom

Mr. Powell's endorsement is again a real plus for our President. He's so well thought of by everyone in both parties. And Romney endorses Candidate (Mourdock) who says "RAPE IS GODS WILL." What kind of a Party are these Republicans? Sickos.

California Tom

Colin Powell, America's most balanced and sane diplomatic leader, just endorsed President Obama for another four years

Romney Endorsed Richard Mourdock, Indiana Senate Candidate “God Intended Rape Pregnancies”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3BMUqqCh0E

The choice is clearer now for the independents and undecided.

OBAMA IN 2012.

It will be the second coming of President Obama

Did the POTUS send out anyone to help "Ol' Stupid" Joe find Ohio, or do they think they are better off leaving him lost in Iowa?

Romney explicitly argued against a government bailout. He predicted that if we bailed out the auto companies they would fail. He argued for a privately funded bankruptcy, even though in the midst of the "Credit Crunch" there were NO banks or private equity firms that were willing to finance it - even Bain Capital declined!

This is true however, they did not offer loan guarantees so we don't know what would have been the out come. We do know that the UAW would not have ended up owing 17.5% of the new company, and that their compensation would have been in line with the rest of the industry, in which they still compete.

Steve Rattner, the Obama administration car czar at the time, said in his own New York Times op-ed piece that the administration tried to find private financing, but that "not one (would-be lender) had the slightest interest in financing those companies on any terms."

Rattner told CNNMoney on Tuesday that the administration never tried offering loan guarantees.

GM is now suffering from the same competitive pressures that caused its bankruptcy because it did not change its cost structure effectively.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/03/us-gm-idUSBRE8420KL20120503

General Motors Co offered investors a disappointing outlook for the upcoming six months in North America, raising questions about the economy's recovery and sending its shares down as much as 3.2 percent.

Just curious but what private unions did Kasich try and bust?

and lingering resentment over Rep. Gov. Kasich's attempt to "bust" the private unions

Cheeser, No I've got much more. Its always useful to tell the truth, but you and your allies (Elliot, Nazarite, etc) have a great deal of difficulty with the truth. Of course we understand that because your comments are usually demeaning and filled with lies. Also of interest is that you don't seem to like to answer questions! How odd. Are you part of the 47% your candidate says are parasites or not? Do you agree with your GOP leaders on abortion? Why do you think Powell endorsed the President? Do you trust anything Romney says? What is remarkable and sad is the hatred and racism directed towards Obama. And you are part of that hatred- shame on you.

When is Obama going to come clean about Benghazi and come before the American people and apologize for his incompetence? When is he going to admit that he lied about Mr. Romney's position on the auto industry? Where is Mr. Obama's plan to stop record pace deficit spending, massive debt creation and to balance the budget? What spending is Mr. Obama proposing to cut? And why has Mr. Obama failed so badly the last 4 years, and why should we sign up for 4 more years of the same incompetence and lack of leadership?

Vote for strong leadership, a concrete plan to stop reckless spending and balance the budget, more take home pay and less taxes, competence and accountability (instead of Obama's finger pointing and blaming everyone and every thing for his failures), fair trade, growth of small businesses, unity instead of division. Vote for Romney!

Okay-

2 people with the same avatar...one of you must go, or change your picture...

Clara -- If that's you without caffeine, please, come here more often without it! Ha! Nice post!

It appears voters are interested in learning more. As a New York Times spokesperson noted on Twitter, Romney's original Nov. 18, 2008 op-ed, skyrocketed Tuesday to the top of the list of the most-read stories on the Times website.

So they could all see for themselves that Romney told the truth and Obama lied.

Automakers' Report Card: Who Still Owes Taxpayers Money? The Answer Might Surprise You

GM: repaid $23.1 billion of the $49.5 billion it got from the U.S. Treasury, including all of its outstanding loans. But Treasury still owns 500 million shares, or 32%, of GM stock. To recoup its full investment, GM stock needs to hit $52.80 per share. It's currently trading around $21. GM also received a $106 million matching grant to build a battery factory in Brownstown, MI, where it is assembling battery packs for the Chevrolet Volt plug-in car using cells imported from Korea.

Chrysler: repaid $9.2 billion, fulfilling its debt obligations to the U.S. and Canadian governments, and is now owned by Italian automaker Fiat (58.5%) and a health care trust for UAW retirees (41.5%). Overall, taxpayers lost $1.3 billion on the Chrysler bailout. In full recovery mode, Chrysler is currently the fastest-growing carmaker in the world.

Ford: used its $5.9 billion loan to convert two truck plants to small-car production and to develop more fuel-efficient vehicles like the Ford Focus EV and C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid, on sale this fall. Loan repayments start in September. Ford says it will spend $14 billion over the next seven years on advanced-technology vehicles.

Leadership, Not Another Bailout, Will Fix GM (And No, It Is Not Going Bankrupt)Joann MullerForbes Staff
Why Are U.S. Taxpayers Still Footing The Bill To Fix A German Automaker?Joann MullerForbes Staff
Ford Is Worried, As It Should BeJoann MullerForbes Staff
Chrysler Is Winning Once Again With Grit, Savvy And CharismaDale BussContributor

Nissan: received a $1.4 billion loan to build a battery plant and modify an existing car factory in Tennessee to produce the electric Nissan Leaf (currently imported from Japan). Production of battery packs begins at the end of September; Leaf production follows in December. Though it has sold only 14,000 Leafs in the U.S. since December 2010, the company hasn't backed off its U.S. sales target of 150,000 Leafs per year. A spokesman says Nissan will start repaying its loan after U.S. production begins.

Tesla: used its $465 million loan to build a battery plant and retool part of a former Toyota-GM factory to build the Model S, its second electric car. So far, only 100 of the cars have been built, well shy of its 2012 goal of 5,000. But the company says it's on track. Loan repayments start in December. Tesla, which went public in July 2010, hopes to break even by 2013.

Fisker: received only $193 million of its $529 million DOE loan because of missed milestones. Its first plug-in hybrid, the $100,000 Karma built in Finland, suffered quality problems. Its next model, the Nina, and a new factory in Delaware, are on hold while the company sorts out its problems and seeks alternative funding sources.

Vehicle Production Group: used a $50 million DOE loan to add a compressed natural gas version of its MV-1 handicapped accessible van. So far, 300 of the 2,100 vans produced at a plant in Indiana run on CNG. As fleet sales rise, the start-up company expects at least half to be natural gas vehicles. VPG began repaying its loan late last year.

Johnson Controls: the leading lead-acid battery maker for autos used a $300 million DOE grant to build an advanced-battery cell plant in Michigan, and is shifting work here from Europe. It predicted slow acceptance of EVs, and is instead supplying batteries for other fuel-saving technologies, like microhybrids, which shut down when the vehicle stops. The plan was for 680 jobs at full capacity. Today, it has fewer than 100.

A123 Systems: drew $129 million of a $249 million DOE grant to build two battery plants in Michigan. But demand didn't materialize, resulting in unused capacity. Meanwhile, A123 is replacing early batteries that had quality issues. Its resulting financial distress attracted China's Wangxiang Group, which agreed to invest up to $450 million for an 80 percent stake in the company. A123, which employs 1200 people in the U.S., says it will continue to manufacture batteries in America, focusing on other markets like grid storage and hybrid buses and trucks.

Dow Kokam: the joint venture between Dow Chemical, a Korean battery maker and a French engineering company used its $161 million DOE grant to build an advanced-battery factory in Michigan. It started production in June, with 120 employees. With EV demand slower than expected, it is targeting other customers like delivery fleets, the Defense Department and tug boat operators.

LG Power: U.S. subsidiary of Korean battery maker used its $151 million DOE grant to build a battery plant in Michigan to supply cells for the Chevrolet Volt and others. But with demand lower than expected, the plant, which has 200 employees, hasn't yet started production.

EnerDel: drew $55 million of its $118 million DOE grant to expand battery production in Indiana. An investment in Think, a Norwegian EV customer, turned sour, and EnerDel's publicly traded parent, Ener1, filed for bankruptcy in January. Co-founder Boris Zingarevich, a Russian timber tycoon with ties to the Russian government, took control by investing another $86 million. That set off alarm bells in Washington because EnerDel's batteries are used in some military applications. After exiting bankruptcy in March, EnerDel installed new management and moved its headquarters to Indiana. It currently supplies battery packs for the Volvo C30 electric car but is shifting its focus to making batteries for mass transit, grid storage and industrial uses.

BTW A123 IS NOW IN BANKRUPTCY

Cheeser is pissed that he has got a part time job and he blames the President, Yet he wont get off his A$$ and close his computer down and find a Full time Job. Typical Republicon Blame someone else for your own failures. No Moxy, No Selfworth

Obama/Biden 2012 Because Seniors Do Matter, Vouchers Dont Add Up

Jody ###'s: "When I apply for a job my employer(s) have sometimes asked for my college transcripts. One could assume that "we the people" are a President's employer, so what's the big deal?"

Jody, ask yourself this - if it's such a "big deal", why hasn't the Romney campaign ever brought this up even once? Could it be for the same reason that John McCain wanted nothing to do with the "birther" nonsense in 2008? Do you really respect Donald Trump's vision more than you respect Romney's and Ryan's and McCain's? That says more about you than it does about the President.

By the way, like the original Jody here (Jody, Iowa), I've been working since 1969 and have never once been asked for my college transcripts. Which is a good thing, as they changed the coding system after I graduated, and the only copy I have claims that I got an "A" in a course called "Soccer and Stunt Tumbling", which I can assure you is the last course I ever would have even taken, let alone gotten an "A" in!

@David Walker - Even when I'm busy - like today - I always find time for your posts. The GOP crocabalone will have me smiling the whole rest of the day. Thanks!

What is remarkable and sad is the hatred and racism directed towards Obama. And you are part of that hatred- shame on you.

now youre just an idiot. I dont hate Obama, I hate his policies and his poor performance. But the fact that you have to throw in racism accusations in order to support you president as failure shows you are just a low info person in general. And take the IdependentSloth with you. be off with you Annoying

@Clara

He really supports a candidate that wanted to manage the bankruptcy to insure that middle class workers lost their pensions?

You mean just like you?

Biden will no doubt be seeking plaudits from the working class types who populate this prototypical Middle American community. There are some waiting for his arrival, however, who likely want to give him a piece of their mind. You see they worked for Delphi, the primary auto parts supplier for GM. They were not members of the United Autoworkers Union. Obama's auto bailout, as this short video produced by Let Freedom Ring, where I am a senior fellow, explains, didn't work out so well for them.

Obama didn't stand by them. Obama didn't bail them out. Instead, he cut them loose, costing them their pensions, their health benefits, and their life insurance. By some estimates, close to 20,000 Delphi employees were harmed, not helped, but harmed by what Obama did.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/09/10/the-dark-side-of-obamas-auto-industry-bailout

If the winner of Ohio has been elected president since 1950 and four counties in Ohio decide the race in Ohis why don't those four counties decide who will be president and they can leave the rest of us THE HELL ALONE.

If the winner of Ohio has been elected president since 1950 and four counties in Ohio decide the race in Ohis why don't those four counties decide who will be president and they can leave the rest of us THE HELL ALONE.

The Detroit News endorses ROMNEY

Alan,

I worked as the Controller for a Tier 1 automotive supplier for several years, so I have some knowledge and experience of the respective wages and benefits in the industry.

Yes, some of the "legacy" workers at the "Big Three" have what seems to be fairly lucrative wage, benefits and pension packages - but all of those were freely negotiated and agreed to by management in exchange for wage concessions for new hires, flexible hours, and managemnt flexibilty on layoffs and plant closings.

New hires at both foreign and domestic automotive plants make about the same in wages and benefits. I now that because we tracked it closely and targeted our wages and benefits to be competitive to the unions shops in order to avoid threats of unionization.

GM is now suffering from the same competitive pressures that caused its bankruptcy because it did not change its cost structure effectively

GM made changes to its cost structure, some of which will take more time to recognize. GM is still doing much better than it has in previous years, and is in a much stronger position to take advantage of an economic recovery.

When you take a "deep dive" into the underlying cost differences between foreign and domestic automakers, a few big differences stand out:

Foreign automakers consistently pay their CEOs and other top management significantly less than US automakers, and have fewer layers of management. Foreign automakers also have less dealerships. So what we accountants call "SG&A" costs - Selling, General and Administrative costs - are measurably lower for foreign automakers. GM has made strides in thsi area but still lag behind.

Foreign automakers also have the advantage of newer plants with a more stream-lined layout in built in areas that offered them sizeable tax breaks. Some if not all of their component parts are produced by low-wage suppliers in undeveloped countries.

The major cost differences between domestic and foreign manufacturers are not related to hourly wages and benefits.

@Shaking my head- No's #1.85: Romney surging? yep. Just as the welcome initial flush of a formerly clogged toilet.

Cheeser get OFF the Computer and get a job, job, job. A FULL TIME JOB. Show some Moxy, you will feel like a contributing member of society and not a 47% Moocher like you and Romney agree on

Obama/Biden 2012

We dont need anymore Wars, and we dont need Romney changing womens Health Choices 1 Vagina at a time

by WILLIAM BIGELOW25 Oct 2012, 4:15 AM PDT23POST A COMMENT

In an incisive column in the Washington Examiner, the dean of political analysts, Michael Barone, analyzes just why Mitt Romney is doing so well. Barone postulates that subarbanites who are more affluent are flocking to Romney. He notes that the firewall that the Obama campaign counted on has eroded, with Obama strategist David Plouffe omitting Florida and Virginia in a list of key states.

When Barone turns to Colorado, which is in Romney’s column now, and former Obama 2008 states Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, where Romney is closing fast, he points out that the only way Michigan and Pennsylvania can be close is if suburbanites are leaving Obama for Romney.

Barone also makes the cogent analysis that the reason Ohio is still narrowly Obama’s is that unlike Pennsylvania and Michigan, where the affluent suburban counties comprise one-fourth of the vote, in Ohio those counties only amount to one-eighth of the vote.

And Barone has hard evidence for his claim; the 2008 exit poll showed Obama narrowly carrying voters with incomes over $75,000, while 2012 post-debate Pew Research and Battleground polls have shown Romney winning the affluent suburbanite votes by statistically significant margins.

In a truly stunning development, Barone reports that college-educated women have been moving toward Romney since Oct. 3. Barone likens this election to 1980, when he notes:

“…vast numbers of voters switched from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan after their single debate one week before the election. In that debate, the challenger showed he had presidential stature and the incumbent president seemed petulant and small-minded … Most voters dislike Obama's domestic policies and are dissatisfied with the sluggish economy. And now they seem to believe have an alternative with presidential stature.

Suburbanites for Romney. College-educated students for Romney. There is big trouble in Obama’s paradise.

TO: David Walker who wrote:

"The GOP logo is changing. The hallowed elephant, renowned for its memory and power, will be replaced by a more appropriate symbol. The new logo is a cross between a crocodile, a slithering reptile, and an abalone, a creature that lives its life in a shell. Known as a crocabalone (pronounced crock-a-baloney), it has been embraced enthusiastically by Republicans..."

David, if they gave out prizes for the Best Post of the Year, you would've WON!

What a fabulous tickle!

Loved it!

Obama/Biden 2012

A second lieutenant in the US Army graduating from college MUST present his college transcripts before he can report for active duty. The most junior commissioned officer must show his college records, yet the commander-in-chief gets a pass?

Something is wrong here, America! Obama is a fraud - wake up before it's too late! If there is nothing to hide, then why won't he show us his transcripts and college applications???

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

@TNSEVOL

Thanks for the analysis. Very informative. Has GM now rid itself of all legacy costs associated with retirees health care and pensions? I remember the figure thrown around that they had $3000 more per car as costs related to this area.

Yes, some of the "legacy" workers at the "Big Three" have what seems to be fairly lucrative wage, benefits and pension packages - but all of those were freely negotiated and agreed to by management

You know, I've been a union negotiator on conditions not benefits, and I don't begrudge what a union wins for their members. However, when it affects the long term costs and management, or a local government, can hide the costs by promising the benefits later it really pisses me off. It is cost shifting to a later time when they are not responsible. Given what we're seeing in the public and private sector, any union negotiator should be asking for benefits now and give up on deferred benefits such as pensions. I know defined benefits seem the better deal but personally go for the defined contributions and keep the money where only you are responsible for it.

Alan -

I don't know the latest numbers on the legacy burden, but the Delphi spin-off improved it some and the bailout improved it even more. I used to have access to the trade magazines and databsaes, I am a little "out of the loop" now.

Obama didn't stand by them. Obama didn't bail them out. Instead, he cut them loose, costing them their pensions, their health benefits, and their life insurance. By some estimates, close to 20,000 Delphi employees were harmed, not helped, but harmed by what Obama did.

The union employees at Delphi were an integral part of the supply chain and were covered under the same agreement as GM union workers. This agreement had to be honored as part of the restructuring in order to ensure the integrity of the supply chain.

The salaried Delphi workers were covered under a separate agreement put in place after the spin-off from GM. Unfortunately these workers were no longer officially part of GM and were not included in the bailout agreement.

I also meant to say that Gov. Kasich attempted to "bust" the PUBLIC unions - including teachers, firefighters, and police officers.

TO: Jody-1593626 who wrote:

"A second lieutenant in the US Army graduating from college MUST present his college transcripts before he can report for active duty. The most junior commissioned officer must show his college records, yet the commander-in-chief gets a pass?..."

Why do Republicans pick the most petty, worthless, irrelevant topics to cackle over?

Republicans have Romney who could quite possibly be a potential felon for lying on his tax returns that he won't reveal even if it means losing the election, and all Republicans can think of his what kind of grades President Obama got in school, which is especially stupid after they twice elected GWB who Repubicans KNOW barely passed in college, but couldn't pass a drug test.

Obama/Biden 2012

About endorsements by famous people. If your decision to vote is based on who someone else is going to vote for you should forfeit your right to vote. How pathetic are you? Have some pride for crying out lowd and make your own decision.

@jody

Have we seen Romney's college transcripts and college applications?

What is he hiding?

Romney is the want-a-be Commander-in-Chief.

Obama/Biden 2012

" Romney surging?"

No, he's snot.

Obama/Biden 2012

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TO: Avg Joe-1820350 who wrote:

"About endorsements by famous people. If your decision to vote is based on who someone else is going to vote for you should forfeit your right to vote..."

Right! Especially if that person is Clint Eastwood!

Obama/Biden 2012

(P.S. Me and Katy Perry, and just about EVERYBODY else in Hollywood are voting for PRESIDENT OBAMA!)

Don't_carry_it_all.............do you really trust the people who got us into this huge deficit mess to get us out of it when they got us into this mess to start with so you would vote for them so they can stay in power? Good luck with that wishful thinking.

Avg Joe: "If your decision to vote is based on who someone else is going to vote for you should forfeit your right to vote. "

To a large extent, I actually agree with you. But just what are the chances you'd have taken the time to write that same post if Colin Powell had reversed his position from 2008 and was now endorsing Mitt Romney?

There are Millions of Reasons why Christians and Evangelicals Wont Vote For Romney

While some evangelical Christians are defending
the presidential candidacy of Mormon Mitt Romney from an attack by Al Sharpton,
another prominent pastor is going further in his condemnation – saying a vote
for the former Massachusetts governor is a vote for Satan.

That's the word from Bill Keller, host of the
Florida-based Live Prayer TV program as well as LivePrayer.com.

"If you vote for Mitt Romney, you are voting
for Satan!" he writes in his daily devotional.

Keller also comes out swinging against the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as a cult.

"This message today is not about Mitt Romney,"
he writes. "Romney is an unashamed and proud member of the Mormon cult founded
by a murdering polygamist pedophile named Joseph Smith nearly 200 years ago. The
teachings of the Mormon cult are doctrinally and theologically in complete
opposition to the Absolute Truth of God's Word. There is no common ground. If
Mormonism is true, then the Christian faith is a complete lie. There has never
been any question from the moment Smith's cult began that it was a work of Satan
and those who follow their false teachings will die and spend eternity in hell."

Keller is also critical of other evangelicals
who have reached out to Romney.

"I have watched in horror over the past weeks
as one evangelical Christian leader after another has either endorsed,
supported, or just as bad, refused to denounce Romney's run for the White House
and those Christian leaders who support him," Keller writes. "Last weekend Pat
Robertson, founder of CBN and Regent University, had Romney deliver the keynote
address to the graduates of Regent. Regent is one of the great Christian
colleges in this nation, and Robertson allowed this cult member to deliver the
commencement address. Is he out of his mind? Do you think there would ever be a
true Gospel preacher giving the commencement address at Brigham Young?"

Keller warned about Mormonism:

"I have been warning you for years now about
this cult born out of the pits of hell and responsible for sending millions of
souls to eternal damnation," Keller says. "For the nearly 200 years this cult
has been in existence they have strived for mainstream acceptance. They are the
most devious of all the cults since they have always tried to portray themselves
as 'just another Christian group' when in fact, they are no more Christian than
a Muslim is! Their deception starts with their name, the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints. Sounds like a Christian church doesn't it? Some Mormons
have recently changed their name to simply Community of Christ to disguise even
better who they are in an attempt to lure people in."

Keller says that when LDS members talk of God
and Jesus they are not talking about the God and Jesus of Christianity. He
claims Romney's high-profile candidacy for the presidency is an important effort
by the church to gain credibility and respectability.

He says if Romney wins the White House,
millions of people will be attracted to Mormonism.

"Those who follow the false teachings of this
cult, believe in the false jesus of the Mormon cult and reject faith in the one
true Jesus of the Bible, will die and spend eternity in hell," Keller charges.
"Romney getting elected president will ultimately lead millions of souls to the
eternal flames of hell!"

Keller also criticizes Romney for political
flip-flops on issues like abortion, citing a recent report that his wife donated
money to Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the world.

There is no excuse, no justification for
supporting and voting for a man who will be used by satan to lead the souls of
millions into the eternal flames of hell!"

I know who TPM is and they do use a variety of polls, but their totals are behind even Dave Leip's projections.

Looking at TPM's selection of polls, these are all the polling companies (rep, dem, and non-partisans) that are using pretty stricktly, a 2008 or 2008 + model for collecting results. If you look at 2006 vs 2004, you would see a shift from Republican to Democrat begin. Because of the shift from 2008 back toward republican in 2010, 2008 was a peak and should not be used as a basis of a continued direction. 2012 then, should be some number between 2008 & 2004.

From looking at internals and picking up on partisan and non-partisan snippets from the ground of the Early vote and absentee ballot status, I have to believe the actual turnout is going to be somewhere between the average of 2008 & 2004 to 2004.

The PPP poll released on Virginia today shows that they have moved their turnout projection from 2008 as a trend to somewhere between the average of 2008 & 2004 but more toward 2008 than the average.

The poll's 5 point margin compared to the other polls which are on the Romney side of Romney +2 to Obama +2 is saying there is a major shift to Obama. There has been no major event to suggest that this is true. I think this PPP poll is not to be taken seriously unless a poll in the next couple come in a couple of points of it.

Avg Joe -- You wrote:

do you really trust the people who got us into this huge deficit mess

Since about 11 trillion dollars of the debt can be DIRECTLY attributed to Republicans, NO, NO and NO, I simply do not trust Republicans any more. There are no fiscal conservatives in that party. They spend, spend and spend and DON"T PAY for anything. Think the wars, Medicare part D, tax cuts.

I especially don't trust Romney - his math doesn't add up, Joe. That's the truth.

I'm all for getting our fiscal house in order with a plan similar to SIMPSON BOWLES.

“In you, Obama, I am well pleased!”
Lucifer

Nazarite,

Yeah, that pretty much sums up Romney's performance at the last debate on foreign policy. He agreed with everything Obama was already doing, except he wanted a chance to be the one following all the current Obama White House policies.

But the devil (aka: Romney) doesn't go by those names that would identify him.

Hey Caesar

You so easily discount racism as a motivating factor among some groups of Romney supporters. However, Rush Limbaugh has played up reverse racism for years now, and I know that it reinforces racist attitudes among some people. My own brother has fallen into the racist thinking Rush promotes. Of course, he was a racist (in his own words) and was easy prey for Rush's pitch.

My brother tells me I am crazy for voting for that N....... and I don't mean Nigerian. He says many of his friends have the same attitude that he does. He is a mechanic and has refused to service cars of some minority groups which has cost him one job so far. He looks down on most minority groups since he is suffering from an inferiority complex that forces him to find groups to look down on, so he can maintain his air of superiority to someone, anyone.

I don't know how widespread this racist attitude is, but I do know it exists from first hand experience.

TO: Marbles who wrote:

"I live in Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio. Voted for Obama in 2008, voting for Romney in 2012, and so is my wife. Romney couldn't make abortion illegal even if he wanted to..."

WRONG.

You should try listening to the news sometime, instead of trying to influence it.

Republicans are just plain uninformed! How pathetic can you get?

Obama/Biden 2012

Bill, Fairfax VA,

I must say that you, Bill, have a lot of gall. I have experienced these elections from Kennedy and Nixon to today and you saying that our current President is mean spirited takes the cake.
Look towards you own party to witness meanness and lies and generally un-American activities.

You will disagree and I expect nothing less from the likes of you and your kind. Sorry examples of Americans you are.

JoAnne in PA..................The same. Clint Estwood's endorscement doesn't matter either. I think these people think mighty highly of themselves to be trying to influnce anyone. They need to stick to acting and performing or whatever they do. Who cares what they think.

Shaak322,

I've heard a lot of race specific statements too of why they have to vote that "un-American" (or whatever word you choose) out of the White House and I don't even live in the South anymore. Some rural areas in Northern states can be just as redneck in many ways as the South.

I often wonder what would have happened if Herman Cain had won the GOP primary. I think that would probably have spun off a strong third party run by a white conservative candidate aiming at getting those votes from the people wanting to "take their country back" and to "deliver us from the darkness that we now live under".

I'm an old white guy and definitely voting for Obama, and although I did vote for him last time around, I know a few other old white guys that voted for McCain last time and are definitely voting for Obama this time.

Obama/Biden 2012

David Walker - The GOP logo is changing. The hallowed elephant, renowned for its memory and power, will be replaced by a more appropriate symbol.

A Christian cross and pointy white hood would be appropriate.

Mike

It doesn't even need to be a rural area. My brother lives near Reading, PA.

Ever since he became a faithful Rush Limbaugh listener, he has become so angry and hateful. I hardly want to even talk to him anymore. It's not just me that he has a problem with. He even calls his neighbors who he disagrees with "white trash". Thanks Rush for helping to create another hate-filled American who has no clue how to deal with the changing world around him.

So if you are unwilling to support Romney because you believe this will be the outcome, how can you support Obama when this is actually his record?

You mentioned healthcare and deficits. Obama reduced the deficit from 1.4 trillion to slightly less than 1 trillion this year. That is his record on the deficit. By comparison, President Bush started with a surplus and left us with that 1.4 trillion deficit. What makes you think Mr Romney will do any better than President Bush, given that he intends to follow a lot of President Bush's policies?

As far as healthcare is concerned, we are paying for everyone's healthcare anyway. It isn't apparent as healthcare as the uninsured are paid for out of the general treasury. In addition, you are failing to keep in mind an additional benefit - in someone is insured, they are likely to see a doctor sooner, which will contribute to the general health. A healthier workforce is a more productive workforce, which is a workforce which makes more money and therefore pays more in taxes. This is an added benefit that has been consistently overlooked.

As far as GM's competitiveness goes, it is projected to have earnings growth of 13.70% over the next five years. Seems pretty competitive to me. Beyond that, though, the value comes not as profit-making entity as that it continue to survive. As a taxpayer, my interest lies in having GM, GM employees, GM supply chain companies and GM supply chain company employees all paying taxes. I do not want to support them. So long as their earnings are above 0%, the company is viable and doesn't cost me anything.

THIS is Obama's record.

He has already provided what Mr Romney claims to be able to provide.

Obama is pleading the fifth when asked about when he learned of three emails sent by the State Department to him on September 11, 2012, informing him that the US Consulate in Benghazi was under attack and that a terrorist group was claiming responsibility for the attack.

The White House has also refused to say when they met with the National Security Council following the terror attack. "We decline to comment," said White House National Security staff aide Debbie Bird. The emails are important because they suggest the White House knew of the true nature of the attacks from the start, yet inexplicably spent the next three weeks telling the public they were spontaneous protests that turned violent. The White House has suggested they were overwhelmed with information following the attacks. Jay Carney told reporters this morning, ""There were emails about all sorts of information that was becoming available in the aftermath of the attack. The email you're referring to was an open-source, unclassified email referring to an assertion made on a social media site that everyone in this room had access to and knew about instantaneously. There was a variety of information coming in." "The whole point of an intelligence community and what they do is to assess strands of information and make judgments about what happened and who was responsible," Carney added. "I would refer you to what we've already said about, and what the DNI has already said about, the initial assessments of the intelligence community, and the fact that throughout this process, I and others made very clear that our preliminary assessments were preliminary, that an investigation was underway, and that as more facts became available, we would make the American people aware of them." Carney insisted, "This was an open-source, unclassified email about a posting on a Facebook site. I would also note I think that within a few hours, that organization itself claimed that it had not been responsible. Neither should be taken as fact. That's why there's an investigation underway." The emails were sent by the State Department to several government officials including members of the President's staff, so there's no reason why he should have been unaware of them. Ultimately, if the President and his staff cannot assess a dynamic situation and respond appropriately, even after two to three weeks following, then questions must be raised about the competency and functionality of the current administration.

Sandy

I appreciate your post.

Yesterday you suggested I Pray about my vote.

I have been praying for the last four years that Christians would follow the Bible and stop

judging the President when he says he is a Christian. "Judge not lest ye be Judged"

We are supposed to pray, "God, what is it you want me to do, help me see it and I will do it, with your help."

As for the "Judge not", well, the question is . . . are they condemning him or saying he is clearly not practicing much of what the Bible says? It is no different than saying someone is a DINO or RINO. I.E. You are a member, by claim, or registration, but you don't act like it or only act like it when it is convenient to.

What Reverend Wright had to say in an interview with Kline for "the Amateur" is probably. This interview was on Youtube at one point. Klein asked if Obama really ever had a complete conversion to Christianity. What Rev. Wright said was "all I could do was try to help him be as comfortable as possible with Christianity".

My impression, which we all are guilty of, is that people have a tendency to read the Bible and see it says do this and don't do that. This is why you have both Republicans and Democrats say my party is correct, because it follows these aspects of Christianity, and the other guys are wrong because my understanding or our understanding of the Bible says it's they aren't.

I find it interesting that the left wants to promote Obama as a Christian, but forget about the Liberation Theology was taught where he joined and he literally speaks some of the teaching of it in his speeches. They want everyone to not vote for Romney because according to "Christians" Mormon is not really Christian.

Liberation Theology is no different than the additions that Joseph Smith decreed creating the Mormon Version of Christianity. Jesus didn't teach either Liberation Theology or Mormon Theology, these were the additions of men.

Your decision is your decision. It is God's gift to you to make it. Give God your vote. Ask Him to tell you who he would want to be president, just as Samuel asked God after he was presented each of Jesse's sons, is this the one you want anointed king?

"Not by might, not by power, but by my spirit says the Lord"

Republicans point to the Community Reinvestment Act as the source of the housing crash - a crocabalone.

Republicans seem to believe that Congressman Barney Frank has the powers more commonly associated with Emperor Palpatine.

Rather, banks loved the idea of being able to sell mortgages to hairdressers and gardeners. They made money off the fees and the loan is guaranteed by the house. No one is stealing the house. When the poor sucker is no longer able to make payments, they just re-possess the house. The fees are profit. The payments the poor sucker has been able to make are all profit. And hey, real estate never goes down so you can sell the house to the next sucker for even more. Great scheme, and all legal.

That is why banks were so profitable just before the crash.

As far as "being forced", if Mr Frank was really as powerful as they want us to believe, wouldn't some of his other initiatives have passed. For example, he's gay. Is gay marriage a Federal right? That's what they would have you believe. Odd that the ONE and ONLY thing Mr Frank was able to do was strongarm the poor hapless banks. Into destroying the economy.

This Ohioan in Cuyahoga County, and 4 other members in my household, have already voted for Obama.

Whatever happened to Obama the nice guy? He's been portrayed by the MSM as this likeable fellow ever since he stepped onto the national stage. But that's not exactly the kind of man we've been seeing in this campaign. Instead, we've been seeing a pretty nasty dude with one really big bug up his a$$.

If you are defending your country, you better be one nasty dude with one really big bug up your a$$. That's what I pay you for.

Woman - Do you want a Muslim determining your health-care?

Huh? There are plenty of Muslim doctors in the US. Many of them are, in fact, female as well.

Way to go, America, when you make a national election about one candiate. Good thing we have a democracy...spit, blech, ptooey!

Probably a legitimate way to vote: See which candidate spends less time in Ohio and more time in other states. Vote for that guy. Just because he's less blind.

Ahh yes, for Virginia, Rasmussen just posted a poll that Romney is +2. Perhaps a more neutral poller like Survey USA will post yet today or tomorrow to give a better fix since PPP was quite a jump in the opposite direction of the current trend.

Meanwhile Election Project returned New Hampshire to Romney's column yesterday after reviewing data. Current count 277 Obama - 261 Romney.

Four keys to winning Ohio:

Key.......Comment

1...........Remember Mr. Obama's Stimulus which would bring the unemployment rate down to 5.4%.

2...........Remember Mr. Obama's Mandated Universal Health Care Reform which will TAX everyone.

3...........Remember Mr. Obama's energy policy to have gas prices the same as European prices.

4...........Remember Mr. Obama's swearing in to protect and defend the United States of America,

.............except for our Embassies and Consulates (Bengazhi).

And there could be a lot more keys ADDED.

If O's grades were so great the only reason I can think of for not releasing his transcripts and showing off his glowing grades is that they just may show him registered as a foreign student. Won't know til he show them, but not flashing such wonderful grades and proving his wisdom and knowledge seems very unpolitician like to me, just like they never miss a photo op, they never pass up a chance to pat themselves on the back.

@DBAkroon

Hear me loud and clear I am not the JUDGE.

When some likes to point out their thoughts on ones faith. Theology

Then I, also, have a right to have some thoughts on someones faith. Theology.

I find it interesting that the right wants to promote Romney as a Christian.

For the past 43 years of my life they have taught me Mormons were a "CULT."

Now, I am to throw those beliefs and convictions out the window.

I will not do that.

I will keep praying for our nation and our President.

I am a born again Christian.

now youre just an idiot. I dont hate Obama, I hate his policies and his poor performance.

No sane person thinks that Obama has had poor performance. He has stopped crisis after crisis, rescued the economy, finished wars, overseen the killing of major terrorists, improved America's standing in the world.

By every measurable number, his performance has been very good and his policies are working. The country is much better off than we were when he started; the economy is improving, the deficit is going down, etc. etc. etc.

That is why everyone thinks you hate Obama. Personally. You have no excuse for hating anything else about him.

Probably a legitimate way to vote: See which candidate spends less time in Ohio and more time in other states. Vote for that guy. Just because he's less blind.

We should vote for the guy who is trying to lose? This is your suggestion?

You mentioned healthcare and deficits. Obama reduced the deficit from 1.4 trillion to slightly less than 1 trillion this year. That is his record on the deficit. By comparison, President Bush started with a surplus and left us with that 1.4 trillion deficit. What makes you think Mr Romney will do any better than President Bush, given that he intends to follow a lot of President Bush's policies?

He only started with a deficit of 1.4T if you use creative arithmetic.

President Obama is falsely claiming that his administration’s policies are responsible for “about 10 percent” of the deficits “over the last four years.” The cumulative deficit during that time is nearly $5.2 trillion. Obama signed two bills — the 2009 stimulus and the 2010 tax cut — that alone cost $1.6 trillion during that time, or nearly a third of the cumulative four-year deficit.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

He has not reduced the deficit to slightly less than trillion this year.

The federal deficit fell to $1.1 trillion in the 2012 fiscal year, down from about $1.3 trillion a year earlier, the Obama administration said on Friday.

That is the smallest deficit since 2008 but represents the fourth year in a row that the deficit has exceeded $1 trillion. Before the recession, which prompted huge federal spending and large tax cuts, the deficit had never exceeded half a trillion dollars.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/business/federal-deficit-for-2012-fiscal-year-falls-to-1-1-trillion.html

Yes George Bush started with a surplus and left with a deficit, but unless I'm mistaken Bush was not on the ballot in 2008, and is not on the ballot in 2012 although it seems he would be Obama's preferred opponent.

As to Romney following a lot of Bush's policies I disagree, however, he can hardly follow them more closely than Obama.

Looking ahead, Obama has promised if reelected to allow the Bush-era income tax cuts to expire for upper-income taxpayers, raising the top two tax rates from 33 percent and 35 percent to 36 percent and 39.6 percent. But he would keep the tax rates at the Bush-era levels for everyone else. Obama’s plan would cost the federal government $3 trillion over 10 years compared with $3.7 trillion if he allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to remain in place.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

@DBAkroon

I am not voting for or against someone because of their faith.

I am just tired of some who seem to imply you can not be a Christian

and vote for a Obama.

I am not a Dem., either.

You might want to take a look at the website.

People of Faith for Obama

Alan -- I'm starting to question your acuity in fiscal matters. We are slowly recovering. Yes, that's the truth.

We're also in a global slowdown, still de-leveraging, and yet, America is doing better than almost all other countries. We are moving in the right direction.

GET REAL.

TO: elliot-3020456 who blathered:

"David walker, you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to civil rights opposition. you cannot change history, there was no party switch..."

Yes, there was and I know because I was THERE when it ALL came down.

How could NOT know the history of the civil rights movement, unless you didn't go to school.

I saw everything that led up to the passage of Civil Rights, EVERYTHING.

David Walker got it perfectly right, and everybody knows it.

Obama/Biden 2012

All you teatards, birthers, flat earthers, religious fanatics, mindless dittoheads, evolution deniers, Fox noise cultist, conspiracy theorist, gun crazies and all around 15^th century Republicans --- you better get used to President Obama because he's not leaving office until January 2017. Mitt Romney is one of the most worthless candidates in the history of this nation with no ideas to fix anything other than the failed policies of the past. Talking about rape, sec4ret tax plans, birth control, birth certificates, teleprompters, college transcripts and wars on religion while writing off 47% of the population and yelling socialist and Marxist over and over doesn’t attract many voters. And if you don’t come up with some new ideas and find an entirely new group of leaders, we just may have another President Clinton in 2017.

To: American Girl-724855

"I live in Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio. Voted for Obama in 2008, voting for Romney in 2012, and so is my wife. Romney couldn't make abortion illegal even if he wanted to..."

WRONG.

You should try listening to the news sometime, instead of trying to influence it.

Republicans are just plain uninformed! How pathetic can you get?

Your condescension and venom are predictable and unpersuasive. I will pay more attention to the news if you promise to learn more about the Constitution, the President can neither pass laws nor determine their Constitutionality.

The fact remains, moderates will determine this election.

He only started with a deficit of 1.4T if you use creative arithmetic.

He has not reduced the deficit to slightly less than trillion this year.

Could you back up your numbers from some sources? Or like Mr Romney, we are expected to just take your word for it?

Because Obama DID start out with a 1.4T deficit by conventional accounting, and our deficit this year IS slightly less than 1 trillion. You can see it in this small chart: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/include/us_deficit_nom.png , which can be reached from the link http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html .

Yes George Bush started with a surplus and left with a deficit, but unless I'm mistaken Bush was not on the ballot in 2008, and is not on the ballot in 2012 although it seems he would be Obama's preferred opponent.

You have a point there. Mr Romney isn't going to leave us with a 1.4 trillion deficit. He wants to start us off with a 4.5 trillion deficit and then start digging.

As to Romney following a lot of Bush's policies I disagree, however, he can hardly follow them more closely than Obama.

Looking ahead, Obama has promised if reelected to allow the Bush-era income tax cuts to expire for upper-income taxpayers, raising the top two tax rates from 33 percent and 35 percent to 36 percent and 39.6 percent. But he would keep the tax rates at the Bush-era levels for everyone else. Obama’s plan would cost the federal government $3 trillion over 10 years compared with $3.7 trillion if he allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to remain in place.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

So you are willing to admit that Obama wants to reduce taxes? That's an interesting admission.

Beyond that, I presume that you are also telling us that Obama "doesn't know where bin Laden is, and doesn't care"?

Or that Obama is still looking for WMDs in Iraq and in any case, Saddam was a Very Bad Man?

Or that President Bush believes that healthcare is a top priority and that everyone should have healthcare?

"hardly follow them more closely than Obama." Right. You are a really funny man, Alan. Truly. My only regret is that you cannot appreciate it.

Caesar and jody #############,

Caesar, lets be honest here. You try to come across as reasoned person, who isn't a racist, only dislikes the Presidents policies. THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY, a reasoned and intelligent person could support Romney/Ryan. They have Lied. Romney has a well deserved reputation for being a flip flopper. Are you a proud Republican and support West, Akin, Murdoch, O'Donnel, Palin, Trump, Perry, Santorium, et al. or was it your honor to show your non-racism by supporting Cain? You are no more then a troll, supporting the Crocabalone party, ( couldn't help that, because it fits). Where the hell do these people get off running to represent this Country?

Jody ####, as someone else pointed out WTF!!!! Just get lost your not doing anyone any good.

Sandy

Hear me loud and clear I am not the JUDGE.

I did not say you are, I said we should not be making a checklist from what the Bible says to justify that one candidate is a Christian and the other is not.

God says this, "Mans thoughts are not my thoughts". The Bible is a guide for us, but the first thing to do is obey his voice. That is not to say the Bible is not his words, but rather his direction is far superior to our understanding of what is written.

I find it interesting that the right wants to promote Romney as a Christian.

The right is not promoting him as a Christian.

They respect Romney because he is standing with them over the intrusions the Democrats have done with Health Insurance.

Billy Graham, a lifelong democrat, is only pointing out that Christians should be voting for those candidates that are pro-life and respect biblical Principles.

For the past 43 years of my life they have taught me Mormons were a "CULT."

Jesus and the apostles didn't talk about "cults" exactly. What they talked about was errors in faith, errors in doctrine. They very pointedly stated what was clearly wrong practices and beliefs a times. That we are supposed to "restore" ones who error.

What do you think of Paul who said "The most important thing is that Christ be preached". The Spirit of God is the one who will do the steering, If you let him.

My best friend lives in Cleveland. Years ago, he asked me about my faith. I told him similar to what I wrote you. The first thing was to believe what Christ had done for him. The second was to do what he asks.

He was a member of a major denomination that has a lot of hefty liturgy and traditions. While I don't feel that is a great environment, I know others that thrive in it. I wasn't too surprised when told he felt he needed moved on to another denomination. He was seeing that people were getting lost in all the man added rules and practices. I reaffirmed, you must do what you understand God is directing you to do. He went to another denomination that seemed to meet what he was needing.

Some years later he moved to another church. I asked him why he moved on. Same answer, It was great for me, I learned a lot, participated a lot, but I began to see I needed to grow more spiritually, and growing meant going somewhere else. Often one does not need to leave a church to grow. Sometimes their direction is to stay where they are, because they are where God wants them.

The bottom line must always be, God, what is it that you would have me to do?

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Caesar, lets be honest here. You try to come across as reasoned person, who isn't a racist, only dislikes the Presidents policies. THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY, a reasoned and intelligent person could support Romney/Ryan.

I can make you a stronger statement. Obama's policies have WORKED. The deficit is coming down, the economy is getting stronger, unemployment is going down, more people are employed, the housing market is starting to recover strongly, Osama bin Laden is dead, the wars are being ended.

This is what any reasonable person considers to be "success."

Yes, I want 5% unemployment too. No, life is not perfect. Obama is human. He is competent, but he has no magic wand, and given what he had to work with, he has made America a lot better.

Romney, Ryan and their die-hard supporters HAVE to lie. That is the only way they can make a case.

@DBAkron

Principles

Oct. 11, 2012 Billy Graham met with Mitt Romney.

A few days later his website was cleaned

from the statement Mormons are a "cult."

That's sticking to your principles............

I use to listen to his biblical teachings.

This has not "restored" my faith.

@DBAkron

My daughter was in tears over this yesterday.

She said, "If Romney loses and they go back to preaching Mormons are a "cult".

I am never going to church again.

How is that going to restore her faith?

Chris Dorr...

You are such a bore!

How about that likeability rating between your savior and Romney? Yep, likeability now even as well as the women vote...even! LOL! Couple that with Romney's huge lead when asked who would do better for the economy...

Remember..."it's the economy, stupid!"

Takin' it all the way to the WH, baby!

Romney/Ryan 2012! Vote against Obama like your life depends on it! And it DOES!

I'm enjoying all the comments about Romney's momentum. Check Nate Silver's fivethirtyeight blog. There was a breakout for Obama after the convention, but those gains were erased by the first debate. However, Romney's 'momentum' stopped with the Biden/Ryan debate, and started to reverse with the second presidential debate. Every day it moves just a little more in the President's favor, and we still haven't seen all the fallout from the clock-cleaning in the third debate. They are right now back to where they stood roughly last June, with a 70% probability that the President wins, and most likely wins with an electoral college count of about 330.

Romney could still win, but he hasn't had momentum on his side for several weeks now. And since he never took the lead on the electoral map, even at his strongest, it is legitimate to ask where he's going to get the new voters to put him over the line.

electoral college of 330??!? For this POTUS???

Have you noticed? Gallup has it Romney 50% to Obama 47%...

Really...If Barry was so damned good, he should be running away with this election. However, many folks are running away from him! Even Jay Leno has been joking about Obama's bad economy lately...you libs are so funny!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

It'll be a Romney landslide!

@DBAkron

Health Insurance...........really what about Romneycare?

Didn't Jesus say, "Feed the hungry and take care of the sick?"

For the Obama/Biden team they don't need FOUR keys and actually need ONE: Tell Joe Biden not to visit Ohio and say how glad he is being in Iowa............... If Joe Biden can't remember what state he is in how can he function as V.P.?

Oh, that's right - I have seen the last four years from Joe Biden - never mind: Doesn't matter WHAT state he is in - he STILL can't function as a V.P.

Sandy:

Didn't Jesus also say "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime"?

So wouldn't a strong economy so this person can earn money to PAY for their insurance be better for them AND the economy rather than just forcing someone else to PAY for their insurance?

The illumination of the GOP brought to you by their very own "Weapons of Mass Frustration":

Paul Ryan and Todd Akin- Legitimate Rape

"Soup Kitchen" Ryan

Jack Welch - "Those Chicago guys..."

Allen West - Communist's!

Richard Mourdock - "Rape is God's will"

Big Bird Mitt

Rick Santelli - the Teabag wizard

Paul Broun - "Evolution is a lie from the pit of he!!"

the donald - grew up with President Obama in Kenya!

Sarah Palin - Nuff said

"Binders Full of Women" Mitt

Steve King - Gloats about bill to allow animal torture

Willard Romney - The 47% of Americans feel they are entitled

Rush Limbaugh / Sean Hannity - Everything that spews from their mouths

Flip-Flop Mitt

Freeport, Illinois better known as "BAINPort" Illinois to the people losing their jobs to China

Obama / Biden 2012

I would like to know how this "rape as god's will and as an acceptable means of conception" thing works.

1 question: Does god show up at the rape event and judge the raper or rapee as being worthy of the conception?

I truly want to know what the deciding factor is.

Cantakenomore: Yes I have noticed the Gallup poll. It is, in the first place, just one poll. I prefer a weighted average of all the polls. Second, the numbers you just quoted is for the national horse race, not the electoral college. The electoral college is how we elect a president. Third, that number is going down (the last Gallup poll had Romney up by 7). And fourth, the Gallup poll historically has been well off the mark (about 4 points) in every election since 2000, including the midterms. So there's all that.

Romney is ahead in Florida and North Carolina, and is behind in all the other swing states. If nothing else changes, Obama wins with about 330 electoral votes. Romney's best pick-off chances or in Virginia and Colorado. If he wins those, Obama wins the election with about 300 electoral votes. This is why Silver has the highest probability of around 330 (14%) Obama, and the next highest at about 300 (9.5%) Obama. The next highest probability is about 8%, and that is of an Obama win of around 345 electoral votes. This is why those who are actually putting their money where their mouth is at the betting sites, are matching Silver's odds at around 70-30 Obama.

But you can sleep with that Gallup poll under your pillow if it makes you feel better.

I wonder if Crosby, Stills Nash & Young are firing up the tour bus?

I think they could come up with a song here about "4 Counties In Ohio"

Obama 2012 / Ozzy Osbourne 666 / Romney 1040 ... and still waiting!

4 dead in Benghazi and see the president running

four more of Obama and 19 to 24 tillion u can kiss your asses bye bye

23 million people out of work 47 million on food stamps but wait under obama plan in 2025 cars are going to get 57mpg so until then live pay check to pay check because good time are coming in 2025

when you voted for him/obama it was all hope and change look at him now we need a leader not a divider.

I find it very confusing that Mr. Romney would criticize the President for everything he has done in foreign policy the last four years, and then suddenly during the last debate, he has a new persona and is Mr. Congeniality and agrees with everything President Obama is doing with foreign policy.

After beating the war drums louder and louder the last year, suddenly he agrees with the President's sanctions, etc. etc.

Huh?

If Mr. Romney cannot decide which side of the fence he is on BEFORE the election, then how can we trust which side he will be on if he is elected?

What a shame.. so many obama supporters in denial and fail to see all the lies our false commander in chief has told .. unemployment is still 7.8% .. obamacare is the dumbest plan ever conceived ( Hey lets force people to get insurance and penalize them if they don't - TWO THUMBS UP!! /rolls eyes)

Sure! he gave the order to kill bin laden, but it took him 24 hours to do it ( gave in to the pressure- he didn't really want to do it, but all you bama ackies don't see it)

obama doesn't care about any of you or this country .. he wants to tear it down and create a socialist govt.

you are all fools and don't even know it .. I almost feel sorry for you people

by the way I have ocean front property in Nevada for sale ( figures if you believe the garbage that spews out of obama's mouth, you should believe that LOL )

Romney/Ryan 2012 ( I don't care for democrat or republican - it's all pointless anyway .. I just voted for Romney to get obama out of office)

you people are so naive and believe anything your golden child or the media tells you ... smh

Extra! Extra!

Read all about it. Two more americans killed today in afghanistan!

So you are willing to admit that Obama wants to reduce taxes? That's an interesting admission.

Yes. He is as fiscally reckless as Bush

Beyond that, I presume that you are also telling us that Obama "doesn't know where bin Laden is, and doesn't care"?

Meaningless point

Or that Obama is still looking for WMDs in Iraq and in any case, Saddam was a Very Bad Man?

NO but he has expanded the drone war to most of the middle east, signed the NDAA and executed and American Citizen without trial. He stayed in Libya longer than 90 days breaking the War Powers act. All deeds that go beyond Bush's idea of an Imperial Presidency, and I'm sure if a Republican President had committed these actions you would be calling for impeachment.

Or that President Bush believes that healthcare is a top priority and that everyone should have healthcare?

I thought Jobs were his top priority?

Obamacare is neither sustainable nor does it guarantee healthcare that is the tragedy. However, in a completely brazen piece of politics, Democrats added to the cost of Medicare D and then complain that Bush is responsible for the deficit spending in incurs. Did I miss when taxes were raised to cover either the initial cost or the expanded benefits?

"hardly follow them more closely than Obama." Right. You are a really funny man, Alan. Truly. My only regret is that you cannot appreciate it.

Where has he deviated from Bush? Same foreign policy except he has pushed the envelope of executive power further. Same spend and borrow domestic policy only his tax cuts robs money from SS, which doesn't really matter as any surplus gets spent immediately. Bush put through an entitlement that can't be paid for, Obama expands that and pushes through one of his own. Bush funnels money to his cronies and political allies, so does Obama.

Tell me where is the big separation between Obama and Bush?

BTW Here is link regarding Obama's deficit claims.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

The Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 extended the Bush tax cuts and cut the Social Security payroll tax for two years, as well as provided relief to some taxpayers who otherwise would have had to pay the alternative minimum tax. The 2010 tax act cost nearly $800 billion in 2011 and 2012.

The administration does not take responsibility for all of the spending in the 2010 tax act (which we will detail later). But Treasury accepts that the administration is responsible for another $410 billion in additional tax cuts and spending through 2011.

Looking ahead, Obama has promised if reelected to allow the Bush-era income tax cuts to expire for upper-income taxpayers, raising the top two tax rates from 33 percent and 35 percent to 36 percent and 39.6 percent. But he would keep the tax rates at the Bush-era levels for everyone else. Obama's plan would cost the federal government $3 trillion over 10 years compared with $3.7 trillion if he allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to remain in place.

So the Administration does not take responsibility for the extension of the tax cuts in 2010 even though its policy is to continue the majority of them.

I forgot about the two wars on the credit card. Well how have we being paying for Obama's Afghanistan escalation? Did I miss that tax increase as well or was that Bush borrowing the money in 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and 2012? Creative accounting at its best.

I'm starting to question your acuity in fiscal matters. We are slowly recovering. Yes, that's the truth.

Just calling it the way I see it. Fiscal mismanagement for 12 years. Nothing to do with what party is power because they are both responsible. We are slowly recovering but at a terrible price. We have incurred an additional $5T that has to be paid for by our kids. I'm sure they'll thank you when they stop paying into SS and Medicare because they need the money to pay off the interest.

Hey, what's all this about Libya ... I just watched Wolf Blitzer say Obama knew it was a terrorist attack about 3 hours before the attack happened and it was never about any anti Muslim video and that Ambassador Stevens request for more security were ok'ed by Hillary Clinton but shot down by Obama not only were they shot down but Obama but Obama stripped away the security Abassador Stevens did have. Wolf Blitzer went on to say there was never any video problem until Obama, Carney and Susan Rice made it common knowledge.

Did Obama kill Ambassador Stevens. That's sure what Wolf sound's like he's trying to say.

Breaking Obama just voted for Romney 2012

and Poor American Girl lost in obama promises

I read Obama plan on his site same old crap,but if you can hold out to like 2025 cars will be getting 54mpg and that's just one of them or 2030 or 2035

Mit Romney has a plan that's work's for Americans today.

Mitt Robme and Lyin Ryan are 2 empty suits, No Plans just trust us. ppphhhhtttttt. The more and more you here them they sound just like Bush and Cheney, No Thanks I Remember Bushs last year in office, 1 Million jobs lost a month, Dow down to 6500, They say it was just a Recession but the people knew it was a DEPRESSION. No Thank You I will stay on the GOOD SHIP OBAMA, That Turd Trawler SSBush Sank, and Mittens Boat is Running Full Steam ahead into a dark Iceberg Night, just like the Titanic

Just sent this little reminder from a friend and I thought I would share. Here you go.

How quickly everybody forgets...............

Bill Clinton was suspended from practicing law in
Arkansas and paid a $250,000 fine as a result of the Monica Lewinski incident.

He also paid a $850,000 settlement over the Paula
Jones incident.

He was also disbarred from practicing law in front
of the Supreme Court.

So Bill Clinton, a disbarred lawyer, a President
who was impeached for lying under oath, is asking the American people to
believe him when he says the best thing for the country is four more years of
Obama.

Nice, Have a great day and play nice you progressives.

nothing new to see here folks, another msnbc pro obama story that has the odumbocrats lathering at the mouth, only way to get the 47% all worked up to get off the couch in mom n dads basement, stop playing their video games, and get out and vote

4000 dead in Iraq. Thx W.

Ticked off in Ohio

NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE BY MITT ROMNEY ON AUTO BAILOUT 11/19/2008 (LINK BELOW)

READ IT AND REALIZE OBAMA IS LYING TO YOU!!!! ABOUT EVERYTHING!

Hey there, Dicked off in Ohio, So we should read what Mitt Romney writes to learn the truth, am I getting this right? Let's see, Romney is really objective and has no personal agenda, Right? So, is Romney now a commentator rather than Obama's oponnent? Get a reality check you pathetic fool.

This is what Wall St is Thinking if romney becomes POTUS,

Wall Street Gaming Romney Win: 'Trillions at
Stake'

Published: Wednesday, 24 Oct 2012 | 12:02 PM ET

By: Steve Liesman
Senior Economics
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Wall Street is beginning to game
out what will happen to Federal Reserve policy and interest rates if Republican
Mitt Romney is elected president.

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Mitt Romney speaks during a campaign rally Tuesday in
Morrison, Colo.

With Romney drawing even in recent
polls, markets are taking more seriously his vow to replace Fed Chairman Ben
Bernanke as well as his criticism of Fed policy, creating the potential for what
one fund manager calls "a monetary cliff."

"The
election may impact everything from mortgage costs to the cost of financing the
U.S. debt. Trillions are at stake, as well as the fate of the U.S. dollar,” said
fund manager Axel Merk.

I think the Republicans need to re think their agenda .If Obama wins- in this bad economy - Maybe that will be a wake up call for them .In my blue est of blue state (Oregon ) there were 2 outstanding Republican senators (and later Governor ) Tom McCall and Mark Hatfield . Both moderate Republicans and pretty much well liked by most Oregonians ,even the lefties . Now there is the tea party . It seems like now all Republicans want their endorsement ,thus proving how far right they are .

Just a heads up to my Republican friends - A tea party endorsement is pretty much the kiss of death for your career unless your running in Texas or some other ultra red state .

I consider myself independent ,but Mitt Romney gives me this creepy used car salesman type of vibe . Good luck to the Republicans ,they're going to need it .

Bill, Fairfax VA

A Desperate, Mean Spirited President

Whatever happened to Obama the nice guy? He's been portrayed by the MSM as this likeable fellow ever since he stepped onto the national stage. But that's not exactly the kind of man we've been seeing in this campaign. Instead, we've been seeing a pretty nasty dude with one really big bug up his a$$.

Are you @!$%#ing kidding me??? You right-wing idiots NEVER respected Obama. In fact, you denigrated him at every opportunity, rapidly switching from his religion to his birth certificate to this new bull@!$%# Donald Trump is trying to pull with Obama's college records. You Republicans offered to compromise if he turned his back and then you promptly stabbed it repeatedly. So don't give me this "nasty" crap; Obama has been more respectful to your idiots in Congress than I or any Democrat would have been. If you ask me, it's about damn time he start kicking some right-wing ass.

But being the fair and balanced guy that I am I'm going to cut our prez a break by pointing out that the VP seems to have a similar problem. Old Joe showed no sense of respectful discourse whatsoever in his debate with Ryan as he tried to belittle his opponent with constant interruptions and dismissive smiles. Hmmm, I'm beginning to sense a pattern here.

Yea, yea; you know the party that criticizes a candidate for being mean is the losing party, especially when it comes to debates. Obama got blasted in the first one and we liberals criticized Romney for being mean; when Romney got schooled, it was the GOP's turn. Don't worry, I got the pattern all figured out.

Alan, NJ

Yes George Bush started with a surplus and left with a deficit, but unless I'm mistaken Bush was not on the ballot in 2008, and is not on the ballot in 2012 although it seems he would be Obama's preferred opponent.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have spent months comparing Obama to Jimmy Carter, a traditional Republican taunt to accuse someone of being weak and ineffective. They have been doing that for 32 years, and will most likely continue to do that. So technically speaking, Obama and the Democrats have at least 28 years to blame Bush.

As to Romney following a lot of Bush's policies I disagree, however, he can hardly follow them more closely than Obama.

Looking ahead, Obama has promised if reelected to allow the Bush-era income tax cuts to expire for upper-income taxpayers, raising the top two tax rates from 33 percent and 35 percent to 36 percent and 39.6 percent. But he would keep the tax rates at the Bush-era levels for everyone else. Obama’s plan would cost the federal government $3 trillion over 10 years compared with $3.7 trillion if he allowed all of the Bush tax cuts to remain in place.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/

Yes, I agree that extending the Bush tax cuts (even for those making under $250,000) is idiotic, in part because they cost too much but also because the Bush tax cuts only benefit those at the top. But what you fail to add in is that Romney pledges to extend all of the Bush tax cuts PLUS another $5 trillion tax cut, blowing up the deficit and thus copying Bush's economic policy. Now, we can argue whether Romney will or will not pay for it, and whether the "deficit hawk" in him is stronger than his Republican predisposition towards taxes, but since he has floated barely any plans to pay for it entirely, we must assume for the present that it will NOT be paid for.

ProBusiness

Sandy:

Didn't Jesus also say "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime"?

So wouldn't a strong economy so this person can earn money to PAY for their insurance be better for them AND the economy rather than just forcing someone else to PAY for their insurance?

No; even in a strong economy with rising wages (which the United States hasn't seen for about 30 years, if you include inflation and other costs), the costs of healthcare (and thus health insurance) will exceed any increase in earnings and possible bust the budgets of millions of households. I don't like the concept of the individual mandate only because it doesn't immediately address the cost; yes, more people demanding health insurance may depress the price (although the exact supply of health insurance is very elusive), but that could a decade, maybe even more. That is why I support a single-payer health insurance system with a public option for Medicare-run hospitals and clinics, and a gradual transition to a bundled payment system instead of a fee-for-service system.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Obamas big three supporters are Hollywood trash, media trash and white trash and the northeast is just full of white trash , if this clown gets relected there wont be an America left as we have know it , as it has been said "You cant fix stupid" lets hope enough of it has been fixed. My boss said if Obama gets back in at the beginning of the year he will have to pay 4000 dollars up front for each employee and he cant afford that so guess what. Obama lied and America died, think before you cast that vote for Obama in Nov. it could cost you your job. Romney/Ryan 2012 ..................help save America from the worst president ever.

.... king k, ticked off, rgray, bryan-247, bellzebum

.... YOU WANT TO BLAME OBAMA FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE EAST where war is ongoing ? Not to discount the American loss of those four men killed ... May God bless them and their families ....

THIS IS WHAT BUSH DID or DIDN'T DO TO SAVE TERRORISM ON AMERICAN SOIL ....

What Bush Knew Before Sept.11

"We were trying to figure out what they (al Qaeda) would do. We never had specifics about time, place, MO (method of operation)."
U.S. intelligence official, commenting anonymously.

President Bush was told in the months before the Sept. 11 attacks that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network might hijack U.S. passenger planes - information which prompted the administration to issue an alert to federal agencies - but not the American public.

CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin says the warning was in a document called the President's Daily Brief, which is considered to be the single most important document that the U.S. intelligence community turns out. The document did not, however, mention the possibility of planes being flown
into buildings.

An agent in the FBI's Arizona office did, however, speculate about that, writing in his case notes about Zacarias Moussaoui that Moussaoui seemed like the type of person who was capable of flying an aircraft into the World Trade Center.

It was the observation of an agent taking notes as he thought about his case - an observation whose significance simply did not register at the time.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer says that while President Bush was told last summer that bin Laden's al Qaeda network might hijack planes, he did not receive information suggesting that airplanes might be used as suicide bombs, as they were on Sept. 11.

Fleischer emphasizes that "until the attack took place, I think it's fair to say that no one envisioned that as a possibility."

The revelation about the president's security briefing comes as House and Senate Intelligence Committee investigators prepare for public hearings beginning next month on whether an intelligence community which spends $30 billion a year should have been able to provide a more specific warning in advance of Sept. 11.

The New York Times reports that an FBI agent in Arizona warned his superiors last summer that bin Laden might be sending students to U.S. flight schools.

Investigators have since Sept. 11 suspected bin Laden's al Qaeda network of masterminding the terror attacks on America, which killed more than 3,000 people.

Republicans don't want to see the bigger picture .... the middle east has been at war since forever ... the attacks on the embassy happened in the middle east .... Bush was for-warned too ... and did nothing and they attacked us AMERICAN SOIL .... HUGE DIFFERENCE .....

MIDDLE EAST - 4 KILLED

AMERICAN SOIL - 3000 KILLED .... YES REPUBLICANS EXPLAIN THAT ONE .....

MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA .... AND AMERICA VOTE FOR OBAMA 2012

Not to add another nail to Citizen Romney's campaign coffin, but here is an interesting observation I can make in one of the decidedly very less urban parts of East Central Ohio, Coshocton County:

Where support for Mr. Bush was high the last two cycles he ran and even remained somewhat high for Mr. McCain last cycle, as evidenced by people's use of candidate materials, the current number of lawn placards endorsing candidates are at least 7 to 1 in favor of President Obama in particular, and somewhat higher for state and national offices as well.

7 TO 1 !!

And trust me, no one is more surprised (and delighted, I confess) than I!

If this is what's happening in the more bucolic countryside, imagine what's going on in "The Big Cities."

The Liberals are calling Sarah Palin a racist for saying Obama is shucking and jiving on the Libya attack!

That’s interesting. This women and her daughter have been called sluts and whores by Obama supporters, and demonized at every opportunity. Now the Liberals are full of righteous indignation when she makes a comment that is absolutely true!

I have a great lead on a new job for Obama and his supporters after the election. It has to do with the Farming industry. All they have to do is walk through the farmer’s field and talk. They spout so much sh-t that the farmers would save a mint on fertilizer!

Please can someone ask Mitt why he feels he's a "job creator"? Bain is not a company that ever tried to help failing companies become successful but rather a company that finds companies that have assets that can be taken out of them. The proof of this is that Bain ALWAYS MAKES MONEY off the company whether the company thrives or goes under. If the company ends up successful, (Staples) that's just a coincidence. If the company goes under and there's a pension fund that can be raided, that's fine with Bain. If Bain can increase their bottom line by outsourcing American jobs, that's even better! Romney was NEVER a "job creator", but an exploiter, just like Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry said.

Magic,

I don't think you proved anything to me. Bain has successes, which are coincidental. The Bain plan is to load the company with debt, pay themselves lavish fees, steal pensions and outsource American jobs. They have absolutely done all these things and continue to do them. Look up "Bain Sensata" to see that Bain is outsourcing a profitable company plant to China right now and Mitt Romney refuses to say a word to save these peoples jobs. A disgraceful person.

For Feisty, Beverly, and all inquiring minds:

Trumps hair is an evil mind controlling alien from Planet Mittens.

It's coming up to Hallow e'en, scary thoughts allowed. >:o):

Much Love n Scary Alien Hair,

Da Pup

>:o): PuRrrRrRrRrRrrrrr

HA HA...hey Fiesty and friends...thought this was gonna be a "KO"? Obama = EPIC FAIL....bye bye

Either way you vote watch this video first

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Not one question asked nor answered over the emails regarding the Benghazi incident. One thing is for sure, the coward n' Chief doesnt have a problem hideing behind Hilary's pant suit. Way to stand up for women!

This election is only about; 1) Creating American Jobs; in 2) Profitable businesses,which 3) Generates much needed tax dollars, to 4) Pay for things we NEED & WANT our government to do on our behalf.

It only works in that order...PERIOD!

Our Capitalistic Economic System is built on PROFITS...yes, (GASP!.. I USED THE C-WORD especially for the wealthy...OR the current alternative is 4) the Capitalists simply move away and they will take the jobs and tax money elsewhere! Then we don't have those jobs to buy anything from anyone, PERIOD!

Your responsibility, as American's, are to our national success is to read the labels of products you're buying and, predominately buy "American Made" goods. So, you're saying. "That's too much hassle and work... or, the overseas products are better". Well folks, let me emphasize a realistic scenario that line of thinking has created to the economy in this country.

"John Smith" started the day early awakening to his set alarm clock (MADE IN JAPAN) at 6am. While his coffeepot (MADE IN CHINA) was perking, he shaved with his electric razor (MADE IN HONG KONG). John put on a dress shirt (MADE IN SRI LANKA), designer jeans (MADE IN SINGAPORE) and tennis shoes (MADE IN KOREA).

'After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet (MADE IN INDIA); he sat down with his calculato(MADE IN MEXICO); to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch (MADE IN TAIWAN) to the radio (MADE IN INDIA); John got in his car (MADE IN GERMANY);pulled out of the
driveway and glanced at his wife's car (MADE IN JAPAN). John noticed his wife's car needed new tires(MADE IN CHINA).'

'John filled his car with gas (IMPORTED FROM SAUDI ARABIA) and continued his search for a "GOOD PAYING AMERICAN JOB.'

'At the end of, yet another, discouraging and fruitless job hunting day, John sat down in front of his computer (MADE IN MALAYSIA), to check for nonexistent job responses.'

'John decided to unwind and relax for a while. He put on his sandals (MADE IN BRAZIL), poured himself a glass of wine (MADE IN FRANCE) and turned on his TV (MADE IN INDONESIA). All this while, John Smith is wondering why he can't find a "GOOD PAYING JOB IN AMERICA."

Does this scenario hit too close to home for you, a family member or close friend? This Is What This Election Is All About Folks!... 23 Million Americans out of work OR living in poverty, because parttime jobs are all they can find; American Companies moving jobs overseas with no end in sight, higher gas prices, rising home foreclosures. A

As Americans, we have two choices this November... Four more years, like the last four years... Obama's broken promises, beautiful speeches and a continued declining economy.... OR...

A real chance to pull our economy back from the edge of an economic and financial abyss... This election offers us a candidate who can put the country back to work, because, his records shows he has done that in the past... A candidate with a proven record of reaching across the isle and working with both political parties to reach a compromise that works for the American People. A candidate who won't merely ask, but, demand fair, equal trade agreements. A candidate who will champion Women's Rights.. because his record as a business man and Governor advocated Women hiring in all levels of responsibility. A candidate who will create a positive tax environment for companies to bring jobs back to America... This is the vision of America that Romney has been advocating....

It's time to stop blaming Bush for Obama's failures.. Obama may have walked into a 9 Trillion Dollar National Debt from Clinton/Bush.. However, the additional 7+ Trillion added to the debt in 3+ years, and another projected 4 Trillion in additional debt over the next four years, is ALL OBAMA.. The buck stops with Obama!

So the choices are yours.... What do you want in the next four years...? Obama's "John Smith" Scenario... or, Romney's "5-Point Plan to a balanced and stable America? This election isn't about "Blue or Red".. It's about protecting our nation and future children from our current economic mistakes..

You Choose... But, Choose Wisely... You can't always undo a stubborn choice and Time Is Running Out.....

You have to love the way liberals complained about Bush's so called lying for 8 years, but now, in spite of Obama's Libya debacle, not to mention Fast and Furious, they will now completely dismiss and ignore Obama's lies and vote for him again.

I mean really, if lies are your line in the sand, then one has to be a totally corrupt liar themselves to vote for Obama. In the face of Obama's lies, their carping about the lies of anyone else on earth rings pretty damned hollow, and proves they're nothing but hypocrites. But go ahead, be a corrupt, hypocritical, lying pile of dog sh!t, if you want to, you'll only be living up to the typical liberal standard of your peers.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Colin Powell believes in President Obama!

He has endorsed him for a second term!

PULLLEEEEEEEEZ, there's only one reason Powell is endorsing Barrack Hussein.

In the other corner Donald (what the hell is living on top of your head) Trump is Willard's biggest supporter!

Feisty Dude!!!!!!

Trump is offering $5 million, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, to any charity Barrack Hussein wants if he just shows his school records and passport.

What's there to hide?

Just think how many middle class and poor people a charity can help with $5 million dollars.

BTW the DNC is NOT a charity.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

Barrack Hussein is a coward.

Barrack Hussein suffers from Obamarrhea. Everyone gets the runs from listening to his nonsense and incompetence.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

CnR, that ole Double Standered Again. Never goes away. See how fast Hillary was tossed under the bus? At least she has more Kahunas to admit when she screwed up.

Roc: Seems the narrative never changes in liberal la la land.

Never will!