Ryan puts softer edge on GOP plans in major economic speech

 

CLEVELAND, OH -- Appearing in an economically hard-hit corner of the crucial battleground state of Ohio, Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan attempted to put a softer edge on the GOP ticket’s plans to reform social programs.

In one of his only major policy speeches of the campaign, the Wisconsin congressman sought to widen the GOP ticket's appeal beyond Republicans and to Independents and Democrats -- just as President Barack Obama's campaign warns that GOP nominee Mitt Romney's proposals would wreck the social safety net and stunt upward mobility.

“Upward mobility is the central promise of life in America. But right now, America’s engines of upward mobility aren’t working the way they should,” Ryan told the crowd at Cleveland State University. “Mitt Romney and I are running because we believe that Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility instead of a stagnant, government-directed economy that stifles job creation and fosters government dependency.”

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The speech hit on policy more than politics, evinced by the fact that Ryan mentioned Obama's name only once in his speech.

“Mitt and I have a message that’s bigger than party. We are speaking to all Americans in this campaign,” Ryan said in front of nearly 600 people, adding, “Wherever we are in life, whether we are rich or poor, black, brown, or white, American by chance or by choice, we are one nation, rising or falling together.”

He continued: “Whatever your political party, this nation cannot afford four more years like the last four years.  We need a real recovery,” Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, said with both American and Ohio flags lining the stage behind him.

The seven-term Wisconsin congressman referenced his former mentor, Jack Kemp, in the speech and said that a Romney administration, if elected, would do everything it could to help the 46 million Americans in poverty today.

“In this war on poverty, poverty is winning. We deserve better. We deserve a clear choice for a brighter future,” he said, speaking off a teleprompter.

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The list of topics Ryan on which touched didn’t stop there, extending into themes he discusses regularly on the campaign trail -- but counched differently for the more formal speech. He also included standard Romney agenda items, such as "urgent" reforms of the school system, repealing Obama's health care law, and protecting religious liberties.

“Look, I am a proud Republican,” the GOP VP nominee said. “Our party does a good job of speaking to the part of the American Dream that involves taking what you’re passionate about and making a successful living from it. But part of what makes America great is that when we don’t succeed, we look out for one another through our communities. My party has a vision for making our communities stronger – but we don’t always do a good job of laying out that vision.”

Wednesday’s speech in the Buckeye State was a step toward trying to help better illustrate that vision.

"In a Cleveland speech today less than two weeks before the election, Congressman Ryan will attempt to hide the truth about Mitt Romney’s policies," responded Danny Kanner, a spokesman for the Obama campaign. "But one last-minute speech won’t be able to mask the truth: the Romney-Ryan approach would close ladders to the middle class with a budget that, according to one expert, would “likely increase poverty and inequality more than any other budget in recent times (and possibly in the nation’s history)."

The last major policy speech on the Republican side came back on Oct. 8, when Romney spoke in the battleground state of Virginia on foreign policy. Ryan’s event in Swanton, OH that day was delayed to watch his running mate’s address.  Today, shortly after Ryan took the stage in Ohio, Romney started his campaign rally simultaneously in Reno, NV.

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Paul Ryan attempted to put a softer edge on the GOP ticket’s plans to reform social programs.

In other words, he continued to lie!

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#1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

But, chilled, he is doing it in a much softer way! LOL

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#1.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

....End Medicare as we know it...

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HOW can Vulture/Voucher do it softly?? Killing me softly with his ... voucher?. Regardless how he is doing, he is sticking to his gop dogMa and hurt your grandMa.

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#1.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

Ryan's budget adds $trillions to the deficit. Catholic nuns and priests and hounding Ryan for his cruel budget - providing massive tax cuts for the wealthy, on the backs of poor and low-income.

Neither he nor Romney have explained how they would pay for their new $5 trillion tax cut skewed to the wealthy, plus extending the Bush tax cuts.

Independent analysts say the only way to pay for them would be to put them on the defecit, or raise taxes for the average middle class family by $2,200.

Under their plan, Sheldon Adelson receives a $2.3 billion tax break -- while our taxes go UP.

Romney let the real cat out of the bag with his "47%" remarks caught on video.

Ryan did the same when his "30%" remarks were caught on audio.

A couple of sheister crooks - the likes of which have never been seen before in American history.

  • 55 votes
#1.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

Ryan reminds me of Gollum in Lord of the Rings: "Where is my Precious?"

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#1.4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

Killing them softly, AlaskaGirl!... Lyin' Ryan is one sweet guy......

Ain't that a song?

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#1.5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

Golly - you all sure are harsh.

But tell me this - did he at least know what state he was in when he gave the speech?

How's this for soft - $4billion per day.

You all know what it is, and more importantly, what it means.

Which is why President "I promise to cut the deficit in half in my first term" is on his way out.

Cause economic reality always wins.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

OMG! Scary, but soooooo accurate!

Oh, along that line, I am designing a Halloween outfit. I am having big flip flops made and I will wear one right side up on the front of my body, and the other will be upside down on the back of my body! I will be "the flip-flopper"!

Thanks, chilled, now I will be singing that song in my head the rest of the day. Just what I need. More thoughts of the evil candidate and his lying partner!

  • 29 votes
#1.7 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

Here are the plans this compassionate Catholic has in store for those needing assistance!

As a congressman, Ryan has authored several proposals to slash spending on programs for poor people by turning them into block grants. According to an analysis by the centrist Urban Institute, Ryan's proposal to repeal health care reform and block grant Medicaid, which provides health insurance to people below near-poverty income levels, would reduce federal spending by $1.7 trillion and Medicaid enrollment by 50 percent, resulting in a loss of insurance for 35.7 million Americans.

Ryan also proposed dramatic cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as food stamps, in place of looming cuts to defense spending. (During the third presidential debate on Monday, Romney said he did not support cutting food stamps.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/paul-ryan-poverty-speech_n_2010827.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

These two @!$%#s will not be satisfied until 99% of Americans are living in tent cities and standing in soup kitchen lines!

As long as they protect the "have mores" otherwise known as their base at ANY cost!

  • 53 votes
#1.8 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

The economy we have now did not appear out of thin air. The current Administration did not create it. The President faced this near-Great Depression head on, when he came into office.

President Bush left GDP at MINUS 8.9%.

President Bush left unemployment at 7.8% - and it rose to 10% in October 2009.

NOW IT IS BACK to 7.8%.

Incredible! And without ANY help from GOP. (They must be proud.)

THANKS are in order from obstructing, ethics-free, just-kill-jobs GOP/Koch/Norquist syndicate. They voted down every Jobs Bill and filibustered at 3 times the pace every seen in American history.

  • 46 votes
#1.9 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

You are absolutely correct! I would no more believe this little liar, than I would Slick Willy Romney. Besides if the GOP belive that this guy is their future, then they should stick a fork in themselves, becaue they are done.

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#1.10 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Jello is pretty soft indeed Lyan. :)

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#1.11 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Not possible Backhouse.

Or did you forget Obama told us we had a recovery already?

'Member 'Recovery Summer 2009'? How about 'Recovery Summer 2010?'

Or mayhaps you can explain how come the GDP was better in 2010, than 2011, than now?

And really bottom line it for me - if Bush had the power, all by his lonesome to wreck it, how come O, who is way smarter and better has not fixed it?

Oh and don't forget every single one of those bastard dems voted against O's totally great budgets.

Backhouse?

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#1.12 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

The edge I would like to see is - HONESTY!!!! something neither of these cretans have going for them!!!!

Why is it that the guy who wrote the Ryan Plan can't explain the math...could it be that just like their campaign - NOTHING ADDS UP?

  • 30 votes
#1.13 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

Cause economic reality always wins.

Yes it does, but Romney/Ryan don't have the right answer, either (in fact, I find them pretty scary) It is just a dog and pony show (or should I say elephant and donkey show), anyway. No matter who wins the Presidency, the American people lose as long as we have a Congress that refuses to work together in our best interest. The only time they do work together is supporting bills that slash our rights.

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#1.14 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

"A softer edge on GOP plans." How exactly do you put a softer edge on rape????

The GOP party is so far out of the realm of reason it is totally unbelievable. I hope this utter failure of a candidate makes them realize they need to become a real party again.

Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.15 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

no more believe this little liar, than I would Slick Willy Romney.

You will however believe the only living, former, President of the United States to be impeached for Perjury.

Slick Willy is Bill Clinton if you weren't aware.

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

Hello folks, do you Democrat Republican blame gamers know how absolutely ridiculous you sound. It is downright embarrassing to see what I assume are "grownups" spinning whatever news item that comes across the wire to fit your fundamentalist political religion.

It's not even a question of the truth for the Republican Democrat blame gamers but willful hypocrisy for your "democracy"! Our political system is a one headed two party system serving their masters, Wall Street and the Banksters/Federal Reserve. Both parties are the same with the exception of a few social issues.

If you would like to come back to earth from the Presidential Reality Show and truly want to improve our country your priorities and concerns will have to change from the ‘Apology Tour” and “Big Bird” rhetoric to the real problems that plague our society. I’m sure there are many smart people out there that can add to the enclosed list.

We allow a foreign entity (Federal Reserve, neither federal nor a reserve, a group of mostly European banksters) to control our currency! This system is why you, I, economies and nations are in debt and debt slaves! The Fed has just passed QE3 to infinity and subsidiaries of the Fed like the European ECB can print money, but how can they create wealth by letting bankers use it for speculation (derivatives market), greater consolidation, and big bonuses?

We let Wall Street run our government! Wall Street is Washington and Washington is Wall Street! We have a two headed one party system serving their masters Wall Street and the Federal Reserve!

Our presidential politicians in both parties are going to spend approximately 1 billion dollars each on their campaigns this year, yet we are laying off fire fighters, teachers and policemen. Two billion dollars on presidential campaigns, is that insane or what? Then, we allow the Super Pac’s with little regulation and full anonymity to influence our American elections through the sheer volume of money that has been used to mislead the public to elect a corporate candidate or pass a corporate sponsored bill!

Our congress is bought and paid for by lobbyists and are involved with insider trading, doing the bidding for those who put the most money in their pockets! They get rich while we the “freeloaders” get cuts to Medicare and Social Security all the while the congress receive a tax payer salary and health benefits for life for themselves and their family compliments of the “freeloaders”.

We've legalized Corporations (Citizen's United) as people! They can now buy any election they want to, from sheriff to president! They don't even have to be American corporations! Corporations have severed their moral contract with America. It used to be you worked hard and helped them gain success and you shared in their success through better wages and benefits, all you get now is a pink slip.

The BP Corporation will likely not be charged with any criminal malfeasance in the largest natural disaster in history. The oil leak continues to flow and there are reports Corexit is still being used without any oversight by the U.S. - Many scientists claim the gulf loop current has been broken and the gulf sea floor has been permanently cracked. If you want evidence of the leak just talk to the residents and oil spill workers living along the gulf from Texas to Florida.

We invade a different country every year! Killing and displacing millions of people and spending trillions of dollars to enrich the Oil, Banking, and Corporate cartels!

The Census Department of the American Federal Government recently reported that “50% of the nation’s population were living below the poverty line”.

50 million people can't go to a doctor because they don't have health care!

47 million people need food stamps just to feed themselves!

25 million people are unemployed or underemployed!

15 million people's mortgages are worth more than their homes!

Our national debt is 16 trillion dollars! We pay off our debt with more debt! That is like putting gas on the fire! They tell the U.S. citizens it is their fault because they don't live within their means! They fail to mention it has everything to do with corrupt business and political leaders and the Federal Reserve and their fractional reserve banking system! In the U.S. we are injecting 85 billion a month in the economy via QE3 (40 billion a month), Operation Twist (45 billion a month) and guess who is on the hook for this irresponsible fiscal monetary policy?

The international banking elite with tacit approval from Democrats and Republicans has given the world 1.4 Quadrillion in derivatives fraud, the HSBC drug laundering fraud, the MF Global fraud, the PFG fraud, the high frequency trading pilfering and stock market fraud, the manipulation of the precious metals and bond market fraud, the MERS mortgage fraud, nearly countless individual frauds from both Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, and the international 800 trillion LIBOR interest rate fixing banking fraud, just to name but a few recent FRAUDS and breaches of Bankster credibility and trustworthiness and who’s gone to jail? In blind obedience to the plutocrats we bail them out over and over and over again. You know their motto, privatize profits and socialize losses!

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the flagships of our housing bubble that has burst! The housing market used to be what was fueling the middle class as manufacturing was being outsourced to foreign countries, it got over leveraged like our banks and stock markets and there is no resolution in site! The mortgage settlement just signed is just another small fine and in reality a bailout for the banks for what they are truly liable for.

They tell us social safety nets, Medicare and Social Security that you and I paid into is Socialism when the largest recipients of social welfare in the history of the world are our “Capitalist, Free Market” banking and financial institutions! Remember the bailouts? We keep bailing out the banks to the tune of tens of trillions and we're told it's because they are too big to fail and all the while we allow them to get bigger! We are witnessing the biggest bank robbery in history and the banks and financial institutions are doing the robbing!

Our media (presstitutes) are bought and paid for by corporations and treat us like mushrooms! Reuters and the Associated Press try to tell us what to believe and think, such as unemployment is at 8.3% and falling, freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength, war is peace, they hate us for our freedom, the terrorists are out to get you, the economy is great, borrow and spend! etc…

Our constitution, our most sacred document as a country is meaningless!

We have lost most of our civil liberties through the passage of the Patriot Act, Foreign Investigation and Surveillance Act (FISA) and National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the new National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP)! They have authorized the use of spy drones in American skies! You can be surveilled by any number of Federal agencies, have your phone and computer tapped, bank, medical, and private records accessed! You can be arrested without gaining access to an attorney or a trial. We are molested at the airports or radiated for “security”. And just recently added National Defense Resources Preparedness (NDRP) which comes on the heels of NDAA. This Executive Order allows the government to take pretty much whatever it wants including crops, farm equipment, vehicles, boats, aircraft and fuel to “prepare” for the national defense. This includes making people work for free. You think I’m kidding about the free labor? Here’s a line straight from the EO that says, “. . . to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation. . .” This is authorized even in peace time!

NYPD’s aggressive street policing program, called “stop-and-frisk,” which predominantly targets low-income minority neighborhoods. In 2011, the program stopped and searched more than 900,000 New Yorkers, 85 percent of them black or Latino. This program is moving to a city near you!

We have created another cartel the “Prison Industrial Complex”! We have outsourced our incarceration of United States citizens which consists of over 6 million prisoners! This exceeds the number of prisoners held in the gulags of the former Soviet Union at any point in history! All objectivity of prison reform has flown out the window in exchange for profits! No prisoners no profits! In some state contracts the conditions of privatization require that states guarantee prisons remain at 90% occupancy! Are there prison lobbyists? You bet and loaded with cash compliments of you and me!

The Military Industrial Complex is King, our defense budget is larger than the rest of the world’s combined! We are the enforcement arm of all the world’s cartels! The policeman of the world! In our countries short history we have bombed over 65 different countries and been at war with the world for 216 of our 236 years! The outsourcing of our security to private military companies like XE (formerly Blackwater) is increasing dramatically!

The phony war on drugs! While our military protect the poppy fields in Afghanistan, the Opium supply produced in Afghanistan went from a modest 185 tons at the start of American intervention in 2001, to a robust 8,200 tons of opium, a remarkable 53 percent of the country’s GDP and 93 percent of global heroin supply; Wells Fargo has been caught laundering money for the Mexican drug cartel in the United States (look it up); The use of drugs in the health care industry is over a 100 billion dollar a year scam. There's no profit in the cure only in the treatment. You are not allowed to buy the same manufactured prescription drugs from other countries at a cheaper price because the drug lobby has had congress pass laws against it to protect their profits.

Fukushima, which still remains stricken over 18 months after the disaster despite the fact that it has disappeared from mainstream news coverage.

The spent fuel pool inside unit number 4 at Fukushima which stores the spent fuel rods is under dire threat of collapse. Scientists have predicted that there is a 98% chance the facility will be hit by a 7.0 magnitude or higher earthquake within the next three years, threatening a disaster that would be worse than three reactor meltdowns combined. We should be made aware of the progress of the cleanup and situation.

We let the elite divide us so that they can keep us in fear, distracted, and divided to the theft going on right in front of our eyes each and every second of the day! The theft of our civil liberties, money and property!

What is wrong with this picture and what does it say about us that we allow this to take place? We have lost our moral compass and our priorities as a country and need to get them back! It is time we concentrate on fixing America for awhile!

  • 7 votes
#1.17 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

ROFL, you liberals really crack me up. Your candidate has been devastated by his own actions and all you have is... Ryan lies? No proof of the lies, no back up, no reality... just words. The only ones that believe the liberal tales is... LIBERALS. Obama has lost so much support, the smell of desperation is filling the halls of First Read.

Do you know why the momentum is in Romney's favor? It's because people finally got to see the false impression the Obama campaign was painting. Just like good little trolls, the liberals fell for it hook, line and sinker. Then again they promoted it... but for some strange reason, the American people aren't buying it... Seems only liberals believe that Romney lies and Obama never does... ROFL!!!!!!

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

Here is some practical food for thought...

What is the difference between crony capitalism and crony socialism? Crony capitalism has never lead to death camps!

Quote me on that....

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

Bush and his Republicans had 6 years (but oddly enough, didn't even address healthcare until the 2008 race) - the President only had 2 years with a Democratic Congress (and less with a "super majority") and 2 years with the TEAliban Congress. Don't forget that Mitch McConnell said the Republican priority was making sure Obama was a one term President - not jobs. What have the Republicans done to help the American people get back to work? They've passed a lot of abortion legislation - good thing there's no war on women!

  • 33 votes
#1.20 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

Seeking Sanity,

I would like to see these Repugnant Republican's placed in a Max Prison where they can be brutally raped and then tell us how it was what God intended :)

  • 22 votes
#1.21 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Wait, don't we all get automatic pay raises when Romney and Ryan are elected and the economy fixes itself? I heard it in the debates. Where do I sign up for that pay raise?

  • 19 votes
#1.22 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

Sal Alejo said:

What have the Republicans done to help the American people get back to work?

That, my friend, is the $64,000. question! I would really like to hear a Republican answer that question. Come on Republicans, what has your party done in the last 4 years to help Americans get back to work?

You know, Brian, it really cracks us up that you believe what you are being told by the likes of Romney.

  • 29 votes
#1.23 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

ScottW- as vile as they are, I wouldn't wish rape on anyone. I WOULD hope they can someday actually grow some common sense but I'm afraid that is too much to ask. They all consider women as property and not very valuable property at that.

It is a good indication of who are real men. Real men value women who are intelligent; have confidence; are self sufficient; and are strong. Only small men - and I use the term "men" loosely - need to control a woman!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 23 votes
#1.24 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

No proof of the lies, no back up, no reality

Careful what you wish for!

1. “A downgraded America.” Ryan blamed the president for the nation’s credit downgrade in August 2011 after Republicans threatened to allow the government to default on its debt for the first time in history. But the ratings agency explicitly blamed “Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal.”

2. “More debt than any other president before him, and more than all the troubled governments of Europe combined.” Romney has made the almost identical claim, that Obama has amassed more debt “as almost all of the other presidents combined.” But their math doesn’t add up: when Obama took office, the national debt was $10.626 trillion. It has increased to slightly above $15 trillion.

3. Shuttered General Motors plant is “one more broken promise.” Ryan described a GM plant that closed down in his hometown, Janesville, Wisconsin, and blamed Obama for breaking his promise to keep the plant open when he visited during his campaign. But Obama never made that promise, and the plant shut down in December 2008, before Obama even took office.

4. Obama “did exactly nothing” on Bowles-Simpson. Ryan said, “He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.” In fact, Ryan was instrumental in sabotaging the commission, leading the other House Republicans in voting against the plan.

5. “$716 billion, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama.” Ryan’s favorite lie is a deliberate distortion of Obamacare’s savings from eliminating inefficiencies. Furthermore, Ryan’s own plan for Medicare includes these savings. Romney has vowed to restore these cuts, which would render the trust fund insolvent 8 years ahead of schedule.

6. “The greatest of all responsibilities is that of the strong to protect the weak.” Ryan closed the speech with an invocation of social responsibility, saying, “The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who cannot defend or care for themselves.” However, numerous clergy members have condemned Ryan’s budget plan as “cruel,” and “an immoral disaster” because of its devastating cuts in social programs the poor and sick rely on. Meanwhile, Ryan would give ultra-rich individuals and corporations $3 trillion in tax breaks.

Oh, and, let's not forget his 2 hour marathon! lmao!

  • 31 votes
#1.25 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

Trust Verify,

Great post ... but where's your solution...Let me guess, do away with government, Right! maybe instead of spending a few hours writing a book you may wish to summarize and offer some solutions to some of these problems like for instance what we do with representitives of the American people who enter office and procede with their own agenda or that of their benefactors...how do we get a Congress that works for 100% of the people and not the upper 1%!!

  • 15 votes
#1.26 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

So romney and ryan can stand there, look you in the eye and lie to you, and expect that you'll believe they've changed their hardline positions and are all warm and fuzzy now, and you'll vote for them........... Wake The, Up People!

  • 24 votes
#1.27 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

You just gave the definition of what sociopaths are. Romney and Ryan are experts.

  • 26 votes
#1.28 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

SeekingSanity

Come on... you can't use words like common sense when speaking about anyone on the right..LOL!

  • 17 votes
#1.29 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

Ryan pitching bait and switch?

  • 17 votes
#1.30 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:47 PM EDT

ScottW- sorry, we always hope they actually get some but, you're right, it doesn't exist, does it????

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 15 votes
#1.31 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL said the following trash:

No proof of the lies, no back up, no reality

Careful what you wish for!

1. “A downgraded America.” Ryan blamed the president for the nation’s credit downgrade in August 2011 after Republicans threatened to allow the government to default on its debt for the first time in history. But the ratings agency explicitly blamed “Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal.” They can blame anyone they want. The fact of the matter is they refused tax increases. It was a justifiable cause. Obama wants tax increases so bad he salivates over them. Even so, the blame goes to Obama. He did not work with republicans to meet any sort of compromise.

2. “More debt than any other president before him, and more than all the troubled governments of Europe combined.” Romney has made the almost identical claim, that Obama has amassed more debt “as almost all of the other presidents combined.” But their math doesn’t add up: when Obama took office, the national debt was $10.626 trillion. It has increased to slightly above $15 trillion. Not quite. The debt went over $16 Trillion. By the time Obama is ousted from the White House, he will have been responsible for over $6 Trillion in 4 years... by far, the most debt in a single term in history.

3. Shuttered General Motors plant is “one more broken promise.” Ryan described a GM plant that closed down in his hometown, Janesville, Wisconsin, and blamed Obama for breaking his promise to keep the plant open when he visited during his campaign. But Obama never made that promise, and the plant shut down in December 2008, before Obama even took office. The promise was implied. Just because the words have been minced, Obama did say that the plant should not be closed... leaving the employees with the impression Obama would help it stay open... thereby pandering the votes of the employees.

4. Obama “did exactly nothing” on Bowles-Simpson. Ryan said, “He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.” In fact, Ryan was instrumental in sabotaging the commission, leading the other House Republicans in voting against the plan. So what exactly did Obama do? Nothing...

5. “$716 billion, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama.” Ryan’s favorite lie is a deliberate distortion of Obamacare’s savings from eliminating inefficiencies. Furthermore, Ryan’s own plan for Medicare includes these savings. Romney has vowed to restore these cuts, which would render the trust fund insolvent 8 years ahead of schedule. So... because some liberal source comes up with a make believe scenario, lies abound... I call BS on this one

6. “The greatest of all responsibilities is that of the strong to protect the weak.” Ryan closed the speech with an invocation of social responsibility, saying, “The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who cannot defend or care for themselves.” However, numerous clergy members have condemned Ryan’s budget plan as “cruel,” and “an immoral disaster” because of its devastating cuts in social programs the poor and sick rely on. Meanwhile, Ryan would giveultra-rich individuals and corporations $3 trillion in tax breaks. More BS. What's the difference between society and government? He did NOT say government, he said society. This is the trouble with liberals, they think government is society. They think wrong.

Oh, and, let's not forget his 2 hour marathon! lmao!

Lets face it Dumfux... your arguments are as weak as a baby squirrel. I understand you are desperate... your candidate is dropping like a rock pushed off a cliff... All your hopes and dreams are crashing down around you... Obama is toast.

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Brianb - wow! Reality has absolutely no place in your world, does it?

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 22 votes
#1.33 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

your arguments are as weak as a baby squirrel.

How precious!

The dead beat daddy is polishing his turds!

Sorry little buddy, the majority of America will take FACT CHECKING over your well documented bull@!$%# anyday! ;o)

Contrary to your fantasies, just because YOU call BS doesn't make it magically become the TRUTH! lol

PS: Leave it to you to insult baby animals!

  • 19 votes
#1.34 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

Brian B1956. Your posed no argument. just trying to bully a woman. I'm sure you are either single and lonely or verbally abusive to whoever would believe your stupidity. Feisty Red head wrote the truth. Just look in the mirror and admit you are motivated by racist, sexist, and Greed.

  • 16 votes
#1.35 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

your arguments are as weak as a baby squirrel.

How precious!

The dead beat daddy is polishing his turds!

Sorry little buddy, the majority of America will take FACT CHECKING over your well documented bull@!$%# anyday! ;o)

Contrary to your fantasies, just because YOU call BS doesn't make it magically become the TRUTH! lol

PS: Leave it to you to insult baby animals!

If the insult was to a baby animal, what does that say about your so called arguments? Don't you realize you just put yourself down? Maybe it's time to put the booze down.

Funny, the polls don't favor your candidate... so the arguments you make are being overlooked...

Doesn't it dawn on you that liberals are being laughed at? Is your vapid support of Obama and all his lies and deception really worth it? You should be embarrassed to support this failure of a community organizer.

  • 2 votes
#1.36 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

Trust Verify,

Great post ... but where's your solution...Let me guess, do away with government, Right! maybe instead of spending a few hours writing a book you may wish to summarize and offer some solutions to some of these problems like for instance what we do with representitives of the American people who enter office and procede with their own agenda or that of their benefactors...how do we get a Congress that works for 100% of the people and not the upper 1%!!

I also agree, awsome post, Trustverify. I think the first obstacle is to get people to listen and think about alternative candidates. You need to have a consensus of people that believe the same thing and that is only the beginning. So, I won't fault you for not having answers.

  • 7 votes
#1.37 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

Funny, the polls don't favor your candidate... so the arguments you make are being overlooked...

Really???

I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and look at today's polling numbers, tootsie!

Gallup Daily October 24, 2012 (only includes one day after final debate):
Job
Approval (Oct 21-23) 53/42 (+11) – Yesterday 51/45 (+6)

The math is NOT on your side...

Willard's dead cat bounce is FINISHED! lmao

YOU are DISMISSED little man, you can now resume pulling the wings off of butterflies!

  • 15 votes
#1.38 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

Brianb - you truly need to learn to read and comprehend. The polls definitely favor President Obama and therefore - the country!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 14 votes
#1.39 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

I'm somewhat amused by the likes of Bri-Bri and the Spankster... Their Liar-in-Waiting pops up with a newly tuned Banjo and instead of saying wth? like the rest of the civilized world, they just try to move around an octave and continue the out of tune sing-along.

Ryan is a wad. That's my translation of changing your story, your approach, and altering your known sins of omission a few weeks before the big day... Soulless pandering lying wad. Learning at the feet of the one vying for that very job from the party of Soulless lying pandering wads. I sort of hope these freaks are wrong about the existence of their God(s)... Because if they're right, it can see everything they do...

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:35 PM EDT

Less than 2 weeks and the real poll will arrive... The only ones that support Obama are liberals. Swing states are swinging... the momentum is still in Romney's favor... if you think Obama won the 3rd debate... possibly by liberal sources... but overwhelmingly Obama lost on the economy... People could care less about foreign policy when they are hurting financially due to Obama's policy's. As one favorite person to liberals said... "It's the economy stupid." I guess the liberals think the economy is doing just fine. 41 million on food stamps... Personal income down by over $4K per year... more people in the poverty class... and where's Obama? On the golf course... or giving a sickening speech to people looking for a clown show.

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:37 PM EDT

[ROFL, you liberals really crack me up...Seems only liberals believe that Romney lies and Obama never does... ROFL!!!!!!]

Brian,

Less time "ROFL", more time looking for a job...got it? Now be a good Brownshirt and grab the classifieds...you wouldn't want Ryan/Romney to find out you're a freeloader (their words, not mine), would you?

Sure you dont...

  • 9 votes
#1.43 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

Swing states are swinging... the momentum is still in Romney's favor

Proof please you NewsforDumbFux parrot?

Do YOU have any idea how much I am going to enjoy kicking you in the ass when our President is re-elected?

Bonus points if he wins the electoral college versus the popular vote!

About time you & the rest of the nitwits choke on your own petard!

  • 9 votes
#1.44 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

Spanky-

Golly - you all sure are harsh. But tell me this - did he at least know what state he was in when he gave the speech? How's this for soft - $4billion per day. You all know what it is, and more importantly, what it means. Which is why President "I promise to cut the deficit in half in my first term" is on his way out. Cause economic reality always wins.

Here's a flash. If Romney or your now softer candidate Ryan had provided one ounce of truth towards reducing the deficit, they'd have a great chance. Instead, we have the pre-candidacy Ryan's plan that kills Medicare and makes absolutely no sense and now, the new Ryan... I mean Romney... plan that makes even less sense.

Cause economic reality always wins...

BTW, did you see that the deficit lowered for the first time since your daddy Bush started this parade?

  • 6 votes
#1.45 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

Less than 2 weeks and the real poll will arrive... The only ones that support Obama are liberals. Swing states are swinging..

Dream on, Slingblade. NitMitt was beat a year ago....This election is just a formality for the inevatible....

O&Joe 2012

  • 8 votes
#1.46 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

Backhouse

NOW IT IS BACK to 7.8%.

Yeah, only because for the last two years for every 1 person added to the workforce, 10 have left. IF, those people were still counted, we would be at over 11% unemployment.

    #1.47 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

    Republicans=Con men

    • 9 votes
    #1.48 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:38 PM EDT

    Just in

    a Baydoun / Foster poll for Michigan. This is a Democrats polling company.

    Obama 47, Romney 47.

    Directly from the poll

    President Barack Obama 46.92%
    Republican Nominee Mitt Romney 46.56%
    another candidate 2.30%
    Undecided 4.23%

    To get 1,122 people to respond, they had to call 35,000 numbers. The mix of voters was not published.

      #1.49 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:44 PM EDT

      Here's why President Obama was right to delay the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline.

      A CBC News investigation has learned that TransCanada Pipelines — the Canadian company behind the controversial U.S. Keystone XL pipeline proposal — was troubled by quality-assurance problems on another recent American pipeline that exploded.

      The Bison natural-gas pipeline exploded in a remote area near Gillette, Wyo., on July 20, 2011, six months after it went into service.

      The explosion blew out a 12-metre section of pipeline and shook buildings more than a kilometre away, but caused no injuries or death.

      Documents obtained by CBC News detail a pipeline project with problems relating to welding and inspection.

      “We are in trouble on the Bison project,” the pipelines’ construction manager wrote in a Sept. 18, 2010, internal email that lists problems related to welding and inspection. Construction of the project had started in August 2010.

      The U.S. Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) inspected the Bison project in September 2010, and took issue with the quality-assurance of inspections, the qualifications of people working on the pipeline and the procedures used to test the coating on the pipe.

      PHMSA later said that the "construction activities affecting safety" appeared to be corrected before the pipeline went into service, the documents show. (from CBC News)

      • 9 votes
      #1.50 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:58 PM EDT

      "U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington."

      • 2 votes
      #1.51 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

      I sent Romney a message on facebook on oct. 20,2012. It went like this:

      Dear Mr Romney The truth shall set you free. Try telling it some time. You might find that you will connect better with the American people.

      So far no reply I guess he doesn't respond to the 47%ers. We should all be sending him messages.

      • 4 votes
      #1.52 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:40 AM EDT

      They point to Welfare-Queens and talk about American-Dreams, so that you don't see them hopping the turnstiles themselves. Do you have any idea how many "Welfare Queens" it would take to spend the same amount of money that the 1% don't pay in taxes? They say "Look at that unemployed leech living high-on-the-hog in his 300-square foot mobile-home eating his government cheese! You're paying for his laziness!", they never say, "If you raise our taxes, I'll only have 20 million left each year, barely enough to buy food for me and my family." because economic problems of the very poor are not the same as the economic "problems" of the very rich. The fact that the 1% live in a country that allows them to keep even 100,000 dollars after taxes each year should make them thankful and patriotic.

      The truth is that most Americans have a better chance of winning the lottery than following the "American Dream" to millions of dollars. The rich know this, but continue to repeat the mantra. The truth is that the American Dream was never meant to mean "millionaire", it meant "50,000-aire", somewhere along the line people forgot to strive for happiness and instead started trying to "get all they can". The "get all I cans" of the country will always screw it up for everyone, be them "welfare queens" or "hedge-fund managers".

      We simply need to teach our children to strive for knowledge, stability, and happiness, not greed and selfishness. We either need to educate ourselves, or put caps (safety limits) on earnings, nothing insane, just some sort of cap based upon the national average, that way everyone moves upwards together. Humans did not get to where we are today with a "take all I can get" attitude, and we won't advance as a people if we continue on this path. We are stronger together than apart.

      "Crony capitalism has never lead to death camps!" -W.U.N.

      Yeah because death camps are expensive, crony-capitalism will just let people die alone under a bridge like god intended right? *facepalm

      • 2 votes
      #1.53 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:30 AM EDT

      But part of what makes America great is that when we don’t succeed, we look out for one another through our communities. My party has a vision for making our communities stronger – but we don’t always do a good job of laying out that vision.”

      The GOP has done a great job of laying out their vision: if you're unlucky enough to lose your employment and health insurance because companies controlled by Bain Capital outsourced your job to China, drop dead.

      If you're a woman who has been raped, shut up and accept it, because it was God's will.

      If you're not an employed, straight white male WASP, accept that you don't have equal rights.

      Yeah, we know the GOP's Taliban vision.

      • 6 votes
      #1.54 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

      DB

      Should not just pick and choose

      The rest of the story in Mich.

      Baydoun/Foster (D)

      47
      47
      Tie

      EPIC-MRA

      52
      46
      Obama +6

      Rasmussen Reports

      52
      45
      Obama +7

      LE&A/Denno Research

      44
      41
      Obama +3

      • 1 vote
      #1.55 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

      Wow what a weasel Ryan really is! He already stated his economic plans calls for a major cut to pell grants, you know those grants that assist lower economic folks go to college. Then he states, and with a straight face, that his plans include help for the poor. What kind of help, private charities. Forget any Governmental help, that was for him and his ilk. We already know that Romney's Grandfather had Governmental help in the form of WELFARE. Ryan of course, had Governmental 'help' in the form of SOCIAL SECURITY survivors benefits(his Dad passed.) Now, did Ryan really need this Governmental help? Was Ryan even remotely poor? Did Ryan use that Governmental money for his essentials? NO, he used that GOVERNMENTAL money to pay for his college. He saved that GOVERNMENTAL money to go to college, as if he really couldn't afford to go. His family was certainly not poor! Now, Ryan wants to (among other programs for the poor,) cut pell grants, educational assistance....Ryan is an extreme HYPOCRITE!!!!!

      • 3 votes
      #1.56 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

      Yeah, Paul Ryan is turning into Mr. Softy as the election draws near.

      Instead of pushing granny off a cliff, he'll just be letting her roll down a steep incline. What a great guy.

      • 4 votes
      #1.57 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:46 AM EDT
      Reply

      A "major policy speech"? Please. Just more of the same crap out of his mouth. The man literally makes me sick to my stomach.

      OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

      • 26 votes
      Reply#2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

      :0 Oops! Brain fart!

      • 13 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

      I don't understand why R'Money and Lyan don't offer free lubricant for each vote. After what they plan on doing to women, veterans, the elderly, the sick, and the young, they should make it less painful.

      • 14 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

      What Paul Ryan wants to do in his new speech.Basically he thinks the poor have it too GOOD,so he wants to stop that:

      “The welfare-reform mindset hasn’t been applied with equal vigor across the spectrum of anti-poverty programs,” he says. Thus he proposes enormous cuts to children’s health-insurance grants, Head Start, food stamps, and, especially, Medicaid, which would have to throw about half its current beneficiaries off their coverage under his proposal."

      http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/paul-ryan-no-i-want-to-help-the-poor-really.html

      • 4 votes
      #2.3 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:56 AM EDT
      Reply

      Ah yes, Willard and Ryan will wear a velvet glove and have a smile on their face as they complete their mission to destroy the American middle class.

      • 23 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

      Yes, and with Romney's diabolical sounding laugh reverberating the airways.

      • 20 votes
      #3.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

      diabolical sounding laugh reverberating the airways.

      With the deep-set eyes of a predator!....lol

      • 17 votes
      #3.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

      Gosh, and yet so many in the middle class will be voting for Mitt.

      Is it at all possible that you all are kinda, sorta wrong? That maybe the middle class is worse off now than ever, in spite of President Awesome's brilliant moves?

      Ah, who am I kidding. Of course you guys are not wrong. It is impossible.

      Oh and Ryan has a diabolical laugh. Unlike Joe, who is totally normal in every respect.

      Question - are those Joe's real teeth?

      • 3 votes
      #3.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

      Romney has the eyes of a shark. Cold and calculating and ruthless. No softness coming from that man.

      • 21 votes
      #3.4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

      Totally calculating all the time, describes Willard!

      This is from HuffPost:

      Romney says, "Bain Capital is an investment partnership which was formed to invest in startup companies and ongoing companies, then to take an active hand in managing them and hopefully, five to eight years later, to harvest them at a significant profit."

      Harvest for a profit! Destroy families and peoples lives for profit!

      • 19 votes
      #3.5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

      When he said that all I could think was that he was harvesting the heart of a business for his own gain. I truly believe that the man thrives on seeing how much debt he can pile onto a company and then liquidating all the assets, lay as many people off as he can, and then sit back and reap the profits, all the while destroying hard working people's lives.

      • 17 votes
      #3.6 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

      Spanky, question - are those Romneys real beliefs?

      • 10 votes
      #3.7 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

      moonbat - they are for the next 30 minutes. After that, who knows?

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 18 votes
      #3.8 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

      Gosh, and yet so many in the middle class will be voting for Mitt.

      Is it at all possible that you all are kinda, sorta wrong? That maybe the middle class is worse off now than ever, in spite of President Awesome's brilliant moves?

      Ah, who am I kidding. Of course you guys are not wrong. It is impossible.

      Oh and Ryan has a diabolical laugh. Unlike Joe, who is totally normal in every respect.

      Question - are those Joe's real teeth?

      Actually, I have gained back a lot of ground since all hell broke loose (around Oct of 2008, by the way...) My 401k has almost recovered, my "teddy bear" dividend paying stocks never took a big hit and are doing quite well and I have started investing in commodities.

      Oh, and gas was $3.81 per gallon, not the $1.86 that people of your intellegence like to bring up. Gas prices started going insane around 2004 when Bush and his oil buddies came into power. Look it up! There are plenty of websites that track it. You don't even have to use the "liberally loved" GOOGLE. The funny thing is, here, is that I would probably be a Republican if they actually stood for what they say they do. The party of Lincoln is long gone, it was replaced in the 1980's by the party of Anita Bryant - yeah, google her, too.

      • 17 votes
      #3.9 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

      pj-965429 - it's really a shame that the Republican party no longer exists. The Tea Party radicals have taken over and I expect to see them marching down the street singing "if I only had a brain" any minute now.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 18 votes
      #3.10 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

      SeekingSanity, I would put it farther back then that. There are the Dixiecrats of the Civil Rights Era, that switched there vote to Republican because of Johnson's signing Civil rights into law. Then there is the Moral Majority in the 1980's who are still way too influential in the party. The Republican Party of the early 1980's were the ones that sold people on the Trickle Down crap that they are still peddling. It was also under Reagan's watch that they floodgates were opened to illegal immigration. If you want a government that is fiscally responsible, takes care of its citizens that can't take care of themselves and minds their own personal business, who do you vote for?

      • 7 votes
      #3.11 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

      Cold and calulating is right when describing Romney. He did some serious bullying while in school, has said he enjoys firing people and puts out some serious lies on a daily basis without any sense of guilt or responsibility, all of which adds up to "sociopath" in my world. I can not believe there are people who know they're being lied to, have no idea what he stands for except lowering taxes for the wealthy (the only thing we actually do know about him), and yet these people don't care and will vote for him anyway. Unbelievable.

      • 7 votes
      #3.12 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

      And let's hope the judge supports the Boston Globe's suit to get the gag order dropped on the potential perjury by Romney in the Staples divorce case, where Romney supposedly falsely testified in a deposition as to the value of the stocks, then made a killing along with the husband when they sold those same stocks after the divorce was final. That should blow his credibility wide open, especially in the state where he is already heavily losing.

      • 5 votes
      #3.13 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:30 PM EDT

      BTW, I think there were actually two different stories on Bloomberg on the Staples story today. The last one was about the ex-wife not trying to block the removal of the gag order.

      • 2 votes
      #3.14 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:36 PM EDT
      Reply

      You know what dampens creating a new business? A banking system that goes bust after a previous administration fails to regulate reckless investing.
      Republicans and their ideology lead to the financial collapse of 2008, and now they want to convince voters to try it again!

      • 23 votes
      Reply#4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

      I think their voters have "Bushnesia"! Sorry! Couldn't help myself!

      • 21 votes
      #4.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

      Four years and O couldn't fix that, eh Amy?

      But Golly - DoddFrank was neat.

      Except Obama's close personal friend, and "Man on Wall street" done run that silly, bloated law.

      In fact, Amy perhaps you can tell us why Corzine is not in the can?

      Oh and Amy, dear, tell us where the banking regulations come from, and who controlled those bodies in, I don't know, say the two years before the big old collapse?

      Come on Amy knowledge is power - get some.

      • 4 votes
      #4.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

      Read some history Spanky, this isn't the first time we've had to bail out banks under a Republican Administration.

      • 18 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

      Sal - this isn't the first time we've had to bail out banks under a Republican Administration It's getting to be the norm, isn't it? Republicans break it and Democrats have to go in and fix their mess!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 20 votes
      #4.4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:31 PM EDT

      Seeking Sanity:

      It's getting to be the norm, isn't it? Republicans break it and Democrats have to go in and fix their mess!

      Wow! Truer words have never been spoken.

      Obama/Biden 2012!

      • 18 votes
      #4.5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

      Spanky-... if I understand you correctly... you are saying that Pres. O did not clean the mess created by your REPUBS... that we should go back and vote REPUBS back to clean your own mess? Is that what you want people to do? You must be CRAZY!!!

      • 16 votes
      #4.6 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

      For the People - oh I am sooooo not going there!!!!! LOL!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 12 votes
      #4.7 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

      For goodness sake! This isn't rocket science folks. Our economy was losing 700,000 + jobs a month, economy in shambles under a republican administration. How anyone could think of trusting them again is beyond me. Not to mention the 3000 + lives lost on their watch 9/11.

      God Bless America....just vote

      • 13 votes
      #4.8 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

      Patricia, you forgot the 6000+ lives lost in the two endless wars Bush/Cheney/GOP recklessly got us into on total unsupported debt (off the budget no less.)

      • 4 votes
      #4.9 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
      Reply

      If Congressman Ryan wishes to speak of upward mobility then perhaps we should find out if he is aware that while corporate profits are up 250% since 1970 the compensation for CEOs is up 430% while the compensation for the rank and file worker is up only 26%.

      Upward mobility? Not with numbers like that. Those who have want more and want to give those who have not less.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:00 PM EDT

      Haven't seen a raise in the last ten years. But, that's Obama's fault. I hear Romney's giving out pay raises!

      • 8 votes
      #5.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:33 PM EDT
      Reply

      "Lost what? I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never ran for President!" - Mitt Romney, 11/7/2012

      • 26 votes
      Reply#6 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

      "Lost what? I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never ran for President!" - Mitt Romney, 11/7/2012

      Clean up on Feisty's laptop!

      ROTFLMAO!

      • 18 votes
      #6.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

      Yikes Turnkey-2450549.......but so funny in its truthiness!

      ....Guess Willards mind will just 'shut the whole thing down'...never happened!

      • 17 votes
      #6.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

      Turnkey-2450549

      "Lost what? I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never ran for President!" - Mitt Romney, 11/7/2012

      Now that is funny. Guess there is truth in humor

      • 7 votes
      #6.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:31 PM EDT
      Reply

      Romney is such a terrible leader that he can't even speak for himself and his positions.

      • 20 votes
      Reply#7 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

      Apparently little pauly hasn't seen the stats on increases in household median income compared to income increases for the upper levels of the 1%.

      More delusional nonsense from little pauly...

      """“Mitt and I have a message that’s bigger than party. We are speaking to all Americans in this campaign,” Ryan said in front of nearly 600 people, adding, “Wherever we are in life, whether we are rich or poor, black, brown, or white, American by chance or by choice, we are one nation, rising or falling together.”""

      • 11 votes
      Reply#8 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

      Yes, I saw that K1200RS -- in Cleveland no less, an overwhelming crowd of... 600. The President on Tuesday had a crowd of 11,000 in Dayton, a much smaller city.

      Sorry Ryan, Ohio just doesn't love you.

      • 18 votes
      #8.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

      Hoping you are correct....

      • 13 votes
      #8.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

      Ditto.

      • 13 votes
      #8.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

      K 1200RS

      Yes we are in this "together". Middle class (whats left of them) Pay and the 1% say Thanks.

      Lets face it folks, they just do Not care. The Only thing they care about IS winning. They are taking this one straight out of the LDS play book. Bring in the Flock (sheep) Any way you can (lie, cheat, steal)The End JUSTIFY"S the means. What I don't get is why Ryan is so Desperate HE is using it...a good little sheep too I guess.

      • 10 votes
      #8.4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

      Sorry Vegas,

      The Cleveland State auditorium holds 895 and they turned people away. This is cleveland, where you have to have a bloodhound to find a republican.

      They will be in canton, Friday, and if they do like they did in Cuyahoga falls last week, that will be 12,000 - 15,000 showing up in a much smaller city than dayton.

      • 1 vote
      #8.5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:17 PM EDT
      Reply

      This was not a softer edge speech. In it he says that we need to cut safety net programs and start giving to private charities. We all know how Ryan loves private charities. I think that he just visited one recently and while there managed to get a photo op and wash some dishes that had been washed already or at least semi rinsed where there was no food left on them to speak of.

      • 17 votes
      Reply#9 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

      If poverty is winning, it is primarily because income inequality has reached such an extreme point that all the gains from any growth go only to the richest sliver of society, those that need it the least.

      • 18 votes
      Reply#10 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

      And I loved the reference to "religious freedoms." What he's really talking about is that he and Romney think that companies that serve the public and receive public (and usually federal funds) should be able to invoke their religous beliefs by not allowing their employees (heck with their religious freedoms) to have contraception covered. It's not the individual's religous freedoms at stake they care about, but the companies. Unbelievable that so many Repubs don't get that! A low information voter may be fooled by that.

      • 17 votes
      #10.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

      "Religious freedoms". As long as it is their religions.

      A low information voter is often of low intellect, so it would stand to reason that the GOP knows this and that is how they run their campaign. Invoke God, guns, and freedom of speech, and you've got a low information Republican voter in the palm of your hands.

      • 13 votes
      #10.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

      I grew up in NW OH, hotbed of German/Dutch ancestry and ultra-conservative idiots. Believe me when I say that there are many Buckeyes in NW, SW, and SE OH who fit that same group. It is almost as bad as our neighboring state of IN (with that totally stupid GOP candidate who made the news today as well.) They are still in an 1800's mentality state.

      That is why I left the state in 1995 and have been back only once...for my mother's funeral 3/11.

      • 5 votes
      #10.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:46 PM EDT
      Reply

      What? Little "Richie Rich" Ryan has no word in his limited vocabulary. To be 'soft' on his Tea Begger Economic Plan for Ohio and America. Read his votes, his policies, and his beliefs on the economy in Wisconsin. Do the same America for his record in his GOP/Tea Begger "House Of Hoodlum's." What is happening in Freeport Illinois is exactly what little "Richie Rich" Ryan likes. Little "Richie Rich' Ryan took a blood oath at the Caucus Restaurant. In Washingto D.C. On Janruary 20, 2009. Little "Richie Rich" Ryan agreed with his 'special' Tea Begger Buddies. Who was at this GOP/RNC "Conspiracy." "Nutty Newt" was there still wearing his hospital robe. "Crazy Cantor" attended this GOP/RNC "Conspiracy" with rotten tea bags hanging off his ears. "Bonehead Boehner" was at the Caucus Restaurant as well. They made it clear that they will use 'terrorist tactics' to destroy the US Economy at all costs. The President will not be allowed to succeed on trade, jobs, and the economy. Look it up for yourself America! Is this treason America? You need to decide this for yourself. Remember America! Polls do not vote. People do! Get out the vote.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#11 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

      Poppycock from a prick.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#12 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

      Bend over and grab your heinies Ohio. These to clowns are going to lie like dogs to get elected. I live in Texas but I'll always be an Ohioan at heart. You people are smarter than that. There is no softer edge for the guys who were willing to let thousands of Ohioans hit the street just to let the auto companies fail. That had nothing to do with fiscal conservatism and everything to do with union busting.

      • 15 votes
      Reply#13 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

      Do you really think doubling down on your insults and ridicule will work?

      Do you really think undecided voters are going to vote for the side that comes up with the most and best ways to be abusive?

      Never mind you just keep going. Maybe you should triple your efforts.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#14 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

      I wonder how many kn the crowd were living in poverty??? I'm betting not one by the way they cheered Ryan.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#15 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

      Ryan = "the best thing we can do for you is cut off your safety net to force you to get a job and be responsible for yourselves. We're doing this for your own good. Trust me, you will thank us when you move in your mansion".

      • 10 votes
      Reply#16 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

      "Thank you, your lordship, for telling us the error of our ways."

      • 10 votes
      #16.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:41 PM EDT
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      Lyin' Ryan can put all the liptick he wants on that pig, it's still a pig.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#17 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

      Tagg Romney, the son of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, has purchased electronic voting machines that will be used in the 2012 elections in Ohio, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington and Colorado.

      "Late last month, Gerry Bello and Bob Fitrakis at FreePress.org broke the story of the Mitt Romney/Bain Capital investment team involved in H.I.G. Capital which, in July of 2011, completed a "strategic investment" to take over a fair share of the Austin-based e-voting machine company Hart Intercivic," according to independent journalist Brad Friedman.

      But Friedman is not the only one to discover the connection between the Romney family, Bain Capital, and ownership of voting machines.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#20 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

      There is a petition under way going to the Attorney General to have this investigated.Last time I checked they were at about 60,000 signatures.Just google voter machine petition and sign it.

      • 8 votes
      #20.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:57 PM EDT
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      Isn't it nice that Obama smuggled US made stingers into Syria? He is so great at arming future enemies of the USA. I hope your not on that US airline when it gets taken down sometime in the future..

      Vote Democrat and destroy yourself...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NHO6pmZj6dA

      Cnn on the Obama plan..... More like no not really a plan just old @!$%# repackaged.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20055271

      About arm the Muslim extremist program from the Democrat party.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/treason-and-possible-prison-beck-breaks-down-obamas-lying-on-libya-in-fiery-segment/

      The cover up of the execution of the US ambassador by Obama above..

      Uninstalling Obama......... █████████████▒▒▒ 90% complete

        Reply#21 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

        We're supporting the rebels that are trying to overthrow Assad.

        Romney supports the President's strategy.

        • 8 votes
        #21.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:07 PM EDT

        Aunt Anna - you'll need to reboot because Obama will be in office until January 2017!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 9 votes
        #21.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:09 PM EDT
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        I knew that, as soon as Ryan got nominated for VP, he would start backpedaling furiously from the "Ryan budget." He and Romney will tell voters whatever they want to hear in order to get elected. Getting elected is their only "principle."

        • 7 votes
        Reply#23 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

        romney/ryan want capitalism for the poor and middle class and socialism for the rich! Let's get rid of the safety nets and give the rich more tax brakes and corporations/big oil more subsides from the taxes I pay. Sounds about right! Obama/Biden 2012 romney/lying 1040's????

        • 5 votes
        Reply#24 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

        In the end you will believe what you want to believe and vote for whom you want to vote for. If you don't vote then don't cry about who is in office and their policies. I am an independent and I have beliefs in both parties and I also see the bad in both parties. I am a veteran of the first gulf war and am a proud former marine. I fought for your right to vote and express yourselves. I see alot of freedom of speech and expression going on here. Good for you. No two people have the same beliefs and no single party has all the answers. Just look at both platforms and read into the history of all the candidates and decide if their previous values hold true to date. I am still looking and studying and will not make my choice until I am certain the one I vote for in the right person for the present as well as the future of my three sons and three daughters. Their rights and future matter more to me then mine does right now. So I am voting for their future as well as my present. Okay you can attack away lefties and righties.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#25 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

        If you can't determine the lesser of two (or more) evils, then vote NONE OF THE ABOVE or NO VOTE, but cast your vote. We don't get to vote for president in the territories, but are under total control of the Congress (where we also have no floor vote in the House, and no representation in the Senate.)

        BTW, I've been a GDI (god damned independent is what they called us) since 1969 and both parties in OH hated me when I lived there.

          #25.1 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:49 AM EDT
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          Well he's certainly softer than flip flopney

          Ryan only thinks 30% of Americans are freeloaders compared to flip's 47% being freeloaders

          • 6 votes
          Reply#26 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

          Republicans just want the 47% to stay where they are - down trodden. That way Republikans can keep all the money for themselves. Mr. Ryan is dishonest.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#27 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

          Twice today, on two different articles, I have asked any Republican who cares to, to share with the audience all of those positions on which Romney has been consistent, from his days as Governor to today. Just one example of any issue on which he has taken a clear, unequivocal stand and never wavered from it.

          I have not been overwhelmed by the response. Nobody can give me an example. Nobody can give me a single damn reason why they're voting for Romney, other than 1. He's not Obama, and/or 2. He says he can fix our economic problems (but still refuses to say how, exactly- "Look at my website" is a deflection, not a plan).

          So now, I'm borrowing a question from somebody wiser than myself: Please tell me all the ways in which the Republican Party has attempted to improve your lot in life. What have they done... or proposed... or even discussed, for Dog's sake... just one specific example is all I'm asking for. No deflection, no coming back at with, "Obama blah blah blah..." because that wasn't the question. Stick to the damn script and give me an example of one thing the Republicans have accomplished that benefitted you and yours. Operators are standing by...

          • 10 votes
          Reply#28 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:44 PM EDT
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