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The biggest hurdle for Republican Mitt Romney to overcome in his six-plus years’ pursuit of the White House has been authenticity.
On a range of issues – from abortion, health care, climate change, and coal to the minimum wage, campaign finance, and bank bailouts, to name a few – Romney has shifted positions and even been diametrically opposed to views he had held previously.
It’s something that’s haunted him dating back to 1994 – in his first venture into politics – when he ran for the Senate against the late Ted Kennedy. “Mitt Romney isn't pro-choice; he's not anti-choice; he's multiple choice,” Kennedy said of Romney’s stance on abortion in a memorable line from a Kennedy-Romney debate.
The damning line set in motion a powerful narrative that would be used against Romney for the next 18 years.
Now, with just two weeks to go until Election Day and with Romney’s path to power in sight, likely the final Romney re-positioning of this campaign took place Monday night at the third and final presidential debate on foreign policy.
The Republican nominee's moderated tone and deviation from prior positions – on timelines in Afghanistan, support for the war in Iraq, the president’s pursuit of sanctions and diplomacy with Iran, whether Egypt’s longtime leader Hosni Mubarak should have stayed in power, and whether Palestinians and Israelis can accomplish peace – are once again raising questions about Romney’s core convictions and how exactly he would intend to conduct U.S. foreign policy if elected president in 13 days.
To be fair, there have been shifts by President Barack Obama, too – from his staunch opposition to health-care mandates as a candidate to then endorsing them as president and trade policy from the 2008 primary to general election. On foreign policy, he was hotly critical of President George W. Bush’s establishment of a prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, pledging to close it within a year. He tried to close it, but ran into the political and legal complications.
But it’s particularly striking that Romney -- who is 65 years old and wants to assume the role of “leader of the free world” – would at this late stage be shifting his worldview.
“Gov. Romney appeared to leave a lot of his positions behind,” former Ambassador Nick Burns, who has worked for both Republicans and Democrats, said Tuesday morning on CNN. “And it does leave you with the question – what is his worldview, what does he really believe, what would he DO on these big national security issues, such as Afghanistan or even Iran, where previously he had been very critical? Last night, [he] largely agreed with the president, so I think he’s leaving the impression that he’s not quite sure what he’d do or that he’s not being as specific as he might be.”
On Afghanistan, Romney was against a timeline for withdrawal before he was for it.
Here’s what Romney said Monday night:
“Well, we're going to be finished by 2014, and when I'm president, we'll make sure we bring our troops out by the end of 2014. … We've seen progress over the past several years. The surge has been successful and the training program is proceeding apace. There are now a large number of Afghan Security Forces, 350,000 that are ready to step in to provide security and we're going to be able to make that transition by the end of 2014. So our troops will come home at that point.”
But previously, he called the president’s timeline a “politically timed retreat,” “misguided,” “naïve,” and “makes absolutely no sense.” Here he was July in his speech to the VFW:
“I have been critical of the President’s decision to withdraw the surge troops during the fighting season, against the advice of the commanders on the ground. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war – and to potential attacks here at home – is a politically timed retreat. As president, my goal in Afghanistan will be to complete a successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014. I will evaluate conditions on the ground and solicit the best advice of our military commanders. And I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation.”
Here he was Feb. 1:
“The president’s mistakes, some of them are calculated on a philosophy that’s hard to understand and, sometimes, you scratch you head and say: How can he be so misguided and so naive? Today, his secretary of defense unleashed such a policy. The secretary of defense said that on a day certain, the middle of 2013, we’re going to pull out our combat troops from Afghanistan. He announced that. He announced that. So the Taliban hears it, the Pakistanis hear it, the Afghan leaders hear it. Why in the world do you go to the people that you’re fighting with and tell them the date you’re pulling out your troops? It makes absolutely no sense. His naiveté is putting in jeopardy the mission of the United States of America and our commitments to freedom. He is wrong. We need new leadership in Washington.”
March 2010:
“I would not have announced the date we're going to start pulling people out. I think that makes it more difficult at the time you're just adding troops.”
April 2010:
“If I'm Karzai, I say holy cow before the job is done these guys are going to leave. What does that mean about my life and livelihood?”
On Iraq, Romney Monday night said:
“We don't want another Iraq, we don't want another Afghanistan. That's not the right course for us.”
Yet during another debate in Boca Raton four years ago (January 2008), Romney called the war in Iraq the “right decision.”
TIM RUSSERT: Governor Romney, was the war in Iraq a good idea, worth the cost in blood and treasure we have spent?
ROMNEY: It was the right decision to go into Iraq. I supported it at the time. I support it now.
During this campaign, he shifted his position slightly, saying instead that it was “appropriate at the time.” He said on FOX News Sunday, Dec. 18, 2011:
"Going back and trying to say, given what we know now, what would we have done, would we have invaded or not, at the time, we didn't have the knowledge that we have now. … we took action which was appropriate at the time."
He also said during that same interview, he said that Obama had “pulled our troops out in a precipitous way, and we should have left 10, 20, 30,000 personnel there to help transition to the Iraqis' own military capabilities."
Asked then if he, as president, would send them back in, Romney sidestepped:
“I think the decision to send U.S. troops into a combat setting is a very high threshold decision. This is not something you do easily. You don't - you don't send our troops around the world every time there's something that goes off… in an untoward way. … I'm not going to say where I would send troops and not send troops. We send troops where there's a substantial U.S. interest involved. And I have a very high threshold as to a decision where we send our troops.”
But, according to his foreign policy white paper on his campaign website, he would have wanted 14,000-18,000 troops in Iraq:
"Reports indicate that President Obama is seeking to keep 3,000 troops in the country after 2011, a number far below the reported 14,000 to 18,000 our commanders in the field have recommended as the minimum necessary to carry out our mission. In light of these developments, it is impossible to forecast what conditions in Iraq will confront the next American president in January 2013. Mitt Romney will enter office seeking to use the broad array of our foreign-policy tools - diplomatic, economic, and military - to establish a lasting relationship with Iraq and guarantee that Baghdad remains a solid partner in a volatile and strategically vital region."
Obama, too, wanted to leave some troops in Iraq, but he ultimately couldn't get agreement with the Iraqi government to do so on the Status of Forces Agreement, which Romney attacked him for during the debate.
On Iran, Romney Monday night called for tightening sanctions, but acknowledged “crippling sanctions” are in place and working:
“…[C]rippling sanctions are something I called for five years ago, when I was in Israel, speaking at the Herzliya Conference. I laid out seven steps, crippling sanctions were number one. And they do work. You're seeing it right now in the economy. It's absolutely the right thing to do, to have crippling sanctions. I would have put them in place earlier. But it's good that we have them. Number two, something I would add today is I would tighten those sanctions.
But at a February CNN debate, during the GOP primary, Romney said Obama did not put in place “crippling sanctions.”
“This president -- this president should have put in place crippling sanctions against Iran, he did not. He decided to give Russia -- he decided to give Russia their No. 1 foreign policy objective, removal of our missile defense sites from Eastern Europe and got nothing in return. He could have gotten crippling sanctions against Iran. He did not.”
On Meet the Press last month, he said Obama’s policy of engagement “has not worked,” said U.S. “should pursue kind of crippling sanctions” he’s spoken about.
“President Obama had a policy of engagement with Ahmadinejad. That policy has not worked and we're closer to a nuclear weapon as a result of that. I will have a very different approach with regards to Iran. And it's an approach which, by the way, the president's finally getting closer to. It begins with crippling sanctions. That should have been put in place long ago. …
“Well, at the time President Bush was president, Iran was years away from a nuclear weapon. And he pursued diplomacy, as I can think we should continue to pursue diplomatic channels. We should pursue as well the kind of crippling sanctions that I've spoken about when I gave a speech at the Herzliya Conference five years ago.”
Even that appearance on Meet the Press, in which he said he think “we should continue to pursue diplomatic channels,” was a rhetorical shift.
He stressed diplomacy and “peace” Monday night:
“It’s also essential for us to understand what our mission is in Iran, and that is to dissuade Iran from having a nuclear weapon through peaceful and diplomatic means.”
But here he was at AIPAC March 6, saber-rattling:
“Hope is not a foreign policy. The only thing respected by thugs and tyrants is our resolve, backed by our power and our readiness to use it.”
It’s instructive to read more of Romney’s AIPAC speech to fully grasp the tonal shift in Monday night’s debate.
“In recent days and weeks, we’ve heard a lot of words from the administration. Its clear message has been to warn Israel to consider the costs of military action against Iran. I do not believe that we should be issuing public warnings that create distance between the United States and Israel. Israel does not need public lectures about how to weigh decisions of war and peace. It needs our support.”
And:
“I will bring the current policy of procrastination toward Iran to an end. I will not delay in imposing further crippling sanctions, and I will not hesitate to fully implement the ones we currently have. I will make sure Iran knows of the very real peril that awaits if it becomes nuclear. … As President, I will be ready to engage in diplomacy. But I will be just as ready to engage our military might.”
On negotiations:
“I have studied the writings and speeches of the jihadists. They argue for a one-state solution—one all-dominating radical Islamist state, that is. Their objective is not freedom, not prosperity, not a Palestinian state, but the destruction of Israel. And negotiating and placating such jihadists will never, ever yield peace in the Middle East. I recognize in the ayatollahs of Iran the zealot refrain of dominion.” …
“Iran has long engaged in terrorism around the world, most recently in Georgia and in Thailand. In Washington, DC, Iran plotted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador by bombing a Georgetown restaurant. Iran has deployed Hezbollah and Hamas and armed the insurgents of Iraq and Afghanistan, killing our sons and daughters. They war against America. Yet, the current administration has promoted a policy of engagement with Iran.”
And on sanctions:
“This President not only dawdled in imposing crippling sanctions, he has opposed them.”
On Mubarak, Monday night, Romney said he approved of how the president handled the ouster of longtime Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak:
MR. SCHIEFFER: Governor Romney, I want to hear your response to that, but I would just ask you, would you have stuck with Mubarak?
MR. ROMNEY: No, I believe, as the president indicated and said at the time, that I supported his — his action there.
But here was Romney on July 27 critical of President Obama’s handling of Mubarak, telling an Israeli newspaper that Obama could have persuaded Mubarak to become more democratic – not calling for his ouster:
“President Bush urged Hosni Mubarak to move toward a more democratic posture, but President Obama abandoned the freedom agenda and we are seeing today a whirlwind of tumult in the Middle East in part because these nations did not embrace the reforms that could have changed the course of their history, in a more peaceful manner.”
On the prospect of Israeli-Palestinian peace, Monday night Romney criticized the president for not doing more to accomplish it:
“...are Israel and the Palestinians closer to — to reaching a peace agreement? No, they haven’t had talks in two years. We have not seen the progress we need to have, and I’m convinced that with strong leadership and an effort to build a strategy based upon helping these nations reject extremism, we can see the kind of peace and prosperity the world demands.”
But Romney’s public and private comments have diverged on this subject.
Publicly, he told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz:
“I believe in a two-state solution which suggests there will be two states, including a Jewish state.”
But privately, during that fundraiser in which he called 47 percent of Americans “victims,” he dismissed the idea of a two-state solution and said it would “remain an unsolved problem”:
“Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace and that the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish. … These are problems that are very hard to solve. And I look at the Palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes -- committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel. I just say there is no way, and so, what you do is you move things along the best way you can and hope for some degree of stability, but you recognize this is going to remain an unsolved problem.”
During his speech at AIPAC, instead of maintaining neutrality with regard to negotiations, he said:
“The current administration has distanced itself from Israel and visibly warmed to the Palestinian cause. It has emboldened the Palestinians. They are convinced that they can do better at the UN – and better with America – than they can at the bargaining table with Israel. As President, I will treat our allies and friends like friends and allies.”
During his trip in Israel, at another fundraiser, he also implied that it was Palestinians’ “culture” that was to blame for lower gross-domestic product in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority as compared to Israel.
Despite all of these shifts, Romney adviser Jim Talent, a former Missouri senator, claimed on MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Reports that it was Obama who was shifting -- toward Romney.
“I gotta tell you. I think the opposite is true,” he said after being asked about Romney’s changes. “I think the president is moderating his view to come closer to Mitt Romney’s view.”
Closer to the “mainstream,” Talent said.
NBC's James Rankin contributed to this report.
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I couldn't stand George W. Bush, although, at least pretended he had some "principles"!
Willard reminds me of a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get!
The fact his followers embrace him & his running mates serial lying, worries me about where we are headed as a nation!
When did bald-faced lying become tolerable?
Imagine what the next generation will look like...?
Feisty - the difference is, no matter WHAT you get, you're not gonna like it!
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney played down his neo-con role foreign policy affiliation in the last debate. Well, let's say it -he LIED BIG about it.
A large percentage of Romney's foreign policy advisors worked for GWB in that same area.
If elected, we would quickly see who Romney is representing.
We would be back to the GOP feareverythingandeveryone policies, that allowed the 0.01% to shift 93% of U.S. income to the top.
I find it astounding that the subject of Romney's religion hasn't played more of a role in the "public debate"- read Media coverage. The right took every opportunity to lambaste Barack Obama as a muslim, not the "right kind" of christian. and everything in between. Now, if you mention The Mormon faith of Romney, as I did recently on a talk radio show on SIRIUSXM "Left" channel, even the otherwise "lefty" moderator said to me, he didn't think it was "helpful" to denigrate Romney the candidate about his religion, mentioned some babble about Kennedy and the Catholics and then cut me off.
I get that it is his show, and that the "MSM" are a bit loathe to bring up the religion thing, however, how does that corellate to the "MSM" coverage of Obama, Reverend Wright, Secret Muslim etc?
It would appear that Romney adviser Jim's Talent is in shifting manure.
Those not the only hurdles MYTH must overcome.
Update on MYTH's Lies:
Mitt Romney
Allegedly LIED in Court To Screw Over Friend's Wife
Mitt Romney LIED under oath when he testified in the divorce of his good friend and screwed the friend's wife out of a lot of money in the process ... so claims the ex-wife of Staples' founder Tom Stemberg.
Multiple sources connected with the divorce tell TMZ ... during Tom's uber nasty divorce case with ex-wife Maureen, Mitt Romney gave a deposition and testified during the trial that Staples was worth virtually nothing. Romney testified that the company was worth very little and Tom was a dreamer and "the dream continues."
Romney characterized the Staples stock as "overvalued," adding, "I didn't place a great deal of credibility in the forecast of the company's future."
Partly as a result of Romney's testimony, Maureen got relatively little in the divorce, but we're told just weeks after the divorce ended, Romney and Tom went to Goldman Sachs and cashed in THEIR stock for a fortune. Short story -- Romney allegedly lied to help his friend and screw the friend's wife over.
And there's more ... Our sources say years later, Maureen, who suffered from MS and had multiple bouts with cancer, got a visit from one of Tom's guys, who gave her papers informing her that Tom was cancelling her health insurance. Our sources say the irony here is that we're told Tom was working as one of then
Governor Mitt Romney's chief health care advisers.
Sources tell us ... Tom also got custody of the couple's one child, making allegations of abuse against Maureen. And get this ... in the mid-90s, after the divorce, Tom sent the boy a letter saying, although he loved him, because of issues related to the divorce "it will not be possible for you to be a part of our family for the foreseeable future."
Maureen lost her home in the process and struggled financially.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2AEoRw82f
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If this is true, should MYTH be tried for perjury? I'm inclined to believe its true due the voluminous fact checks that the veracity of MYTH lies are just that; LIES!!!
How do these MYTH lies affect right wingers and the slime balls over @ FOX NOISE? They get Romnesia and bigotry injected in their narratives.
BTW: Staples is shipping J-O-B-S offshore
http://freakoutnation.com/2012/09/25/those-job-creators-romneys-success-story-staples-to-close-60-stores-worldwide/
FIRED UP
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
Obama/Biden 2012
The third paragraph of the article says it all.
Ted Kennedy was able to succinctly capture the essence of Romney as far back as twenty years ago and nothing about Romney has changed since.
The man is a pathological liar and nothing less than another GOP candidate who speaks his mind and stands by it until people object to the statements. Then Romney and the other GOP'ers will make an about-face and attempt to tell us that what they said isn't at all what they meant.
Politics has a bad image because of people like Romney and it's time to rid ourselves of his kind.
Liberals - QUICK!! We need a distraction to what is now coming out about 9/11!! Put out some stories, any stories!! Try to keep their minds off the new Benghazzi details!
I find it hilarious that Obama is JUST NOW coming out with an agenda for his second term.
Was he that arrogant that he thought that people would ELECT him without a game plan?
Now, with the tide turning he is behind the 8 ball, and must shift to desperation mode...
Folks, meet the new OB/GYN medical professionals: Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock, Paul Ryan, Gov McDonnell, Mitt Romney and the entire TeaParty.
Kinda' makes you feel good?
It's obvious that lying is fashionable and habitual for Obama.....
That smoking gun thing must really be a b!tch for you libs....
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/24/us/libya-benghazi-e-mails/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
People DIED...Obama LIED...and then created a massive COVER UP!
Well...I see that there will be new clips added to this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUzEJiFpmsQ
WHERE is the article on the EMails about the Benghazi ATTACK ?
You know, the EMails which indicated the White House knew it was an ATTACK but continued to say is was because of the "Video" ?
Oh yeah, the media continues to run cover for the FAILED Obama presidency (both domestic and International).
Liberals - QUICK!! We need a distraction to what is now coming out about 9/11!!
The nerve of those libbies trying to distract from the righties distraction.
I don't know what the problem is. Even NitMitt has endorced O's foreign policy strategies.....
wb51,
so righty, lets see where were you when romney lied about auto bail out?
if obama doing so bad on foreign affairs, why did romney endorsed him on all the issues of it on last debate?
you bringing up the baghazi, do you know all the facts other then there was email supposly. I can tell so may things like that were happening with bush, 9/11, katrina and etc.. and how his quick response was and guess most of the romney's foreign advisor are same people from GWB, so you can't say we just blaming Bush.
but nice try though
wb52, stop ignoring the truth by spouting 'faux talking points'!...Oh, and BTW people are still dying because of the Bush Administration LIES!
Yet you continue to support obama and work for him jen. How is it ok that today we now know that the state dept knew within hrs( according to internal emails) that bengazi was a terrorist attack and yet your boss sent out susan rice to LIE LIE LIE. The fact checkers now that obama told mostly LIES and now even CNN is reporting the LIES in the new pamphlet.
Chilled...I knew it wouldn't be long before we had our first Bush reference. Let me guess, because we want to know the ACTUAL truth about Libya, we are racists too???
Nice article Dominico.
Although I just keep waiting for your peice on the Obama disconnect with whte voters.
Oh well, no biggy,as I see that we are all tied up in Ohio, and two days before I predicted it would happen.
So DOminico - there going to be anything here today about what CNN and others are reporting - that the O gang got e mails that Benghazi was a terrorist attack within two hours of the event?
Oh who am I kidding - of course First Read will not touch it with a ten foot pole.
Why I just bet you all are gearing up for a little Gloria Allred fun, am I right?
And that is what make this preference cascade against O all the more entertaining. Plus - Chuck Todd gets it - and his position was neatly borne out last night at Red Rocks.
There's lies....
Damned lies....
And then there's Obama.....
Romney's policies = Nailing Jello to a wall
In other words Romney is a lying sack of crap and anyone that is foolish enough to vote for him will have to take responsibility for the chaos he will create in our country should he actually win.
Today we see those same fools refuse to take responsibility for their votes for George W Bush and instead erased his two terms from the historical record.
Republicans are all too happy to put another unqualified puppet into the Presidency but he will be even worse than Bush. Romney refuses to disclose his taxes because he's a cheat, he is a member of a cult, he refuses to give ANY details about what he will actually do, and he wants to ban abortion and contraception. This guy is downright dangerous to the country.... if he wins prepare for chaos in the nation.
Spanky...I hope you are VERY VERY patient man
chilled....."Folks, meet the new OB/GYN medical professionals: Sharon Angle, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock, Paul Ryan, Gov McDonnell, Mitt Romney and the entire TeaParty.
Kinda' makes you feel good?"
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Folks, meet your new Health Care provider: The U.S. government.
Folks, meet your new Health Care procedure analyst: a newly appointed GS-4 sitting behind a DSHS desk.
Really makes you feel good.
No, but there's a word which starts with M and is spelled a lot like Mormon that fits what you are. :)
The White House is not in charge of adding or subtracting security forces to foreign embassies, however, they are in charge of ordering a review of what may have failed when a terrorist attack occurs, which the President has done.
I've read the emails just released, from the embassy staff on the night of the attack, and my admiration for our diplomatic corp, and Ambassador Stevens, continues to increase. The risks these people take, in our name, are staggering.
Instead of being an @$$ post your cited facts supporting your BS. :)
Then again I know you're only an @$$ so you wont.
another stellar FR article. kinda silent on Bengahzi though. Oh well, wonder if Domenico realizes he aint changing anyone's minds on FR. Yeah because tons of indies and moderates come to FR for valuable and objective info.
Are you for real?
4 men dead and lie after lie you so full of ----
It's all good chilled - see here in Cali we have no more OB-gyns.
The trial lawyers have literally sued them out of existence.
See, you can't practice without malpractice insurance. My doctor clients tell me that ob-gyn insurance is no longer available.
THey can get it - $500k SIR, $300k per yer.
Sounds like a bargain, right.
Yep - the liberal trial lawyers and state legislators built that.
And he gose by Mit
Romney 2012 because America needs a real leader not a rock star
from article explaining Bengahzi email --
Spokesmen for the White House and State Department had no immediate response to requests for comments on the emails.
I find that strange, do you?
source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024
Obama Fail asks
Actual truth is not in the DNA of TeaPeople.....Racist? You have to answer that question, since I did not bring race into the conversation.
So, maybe you should dare to say that to veterans, and those receiving MEDICARE/MEDICAID folks!
Anyone that would vote for someone that will flip flop on every issue and a tax plan he won't divulge please let me know where you live so I can contact you. I have this great piece of property in Florida I would like to sell you but you can't see it until after the sale is completed.
Less than two weeks to go til national election day and the press is just now realizing Romney is a shape shifter?
They had a duty to report these flips long ago.
Wow, this article is more than enough proof that these news sites are waaaaay Pro-Obama. They should have a note at the end "Paid for by Obama for America." This isn't news this is a political ad. How can these people call themselves journalist?
If the details of the emails are true, SHOULD The President, Sec of State, and Susan Rice resign immediately?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024
@Spanky.....You're kidding, right?
Romney campaign slogan should be like Burger King - "Have it Your Way". Just tell me what you want me to say before I get to your town and I will say it.
Hold the taxes, hold the abortion, special 47% requests don't upsettus, have it your way until I screw you after the election. No Thank You Mitty.
sirie
of course it's strange and so was Fast and Furious. We have the best articles at FR taking on the serious issues plaguing our country, like 45pt leads for Obama in the Lation community.
Did anyone see "Nell the undecided voter on Colbert"?
Over the course of this campaign, I have seen a Romney that supports ALL of Obama's policies excepting a couple. The ONLY differences are race and giving gifts to the rich. (Yes, tax cuts are gifts. You HAVE to pay for the right to make money off of the American Middle Class!)
So stimulus which was virtually kickback for Obama donors is ok? I got it, 'Im a lib and its ok when i hypocrite'. GOTCHA
Oh My!
Not only caps but BOLD too boot!
Find some anger management classes before it's too late! lol
Can someone explain why only Willard's gofers are spreading the manure?
If this is such a "smoking gun", why the *crickets* out of your fearless leader?
Talk about Zombies! lol
PS: Don't look now, seems 10 x's the readers agree with me over your insane rantings! ;o)
Roadkill - Yes, tax cuts are gifts. You HAVE to pay for the right to make money off of the American Middle Class!
So, food stamps are gifts then too?
Donald Trump's long awaited surprise announcement...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
The Trumpster didn't read this...
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/
isnt this precious, Feisty suggesting someone else take angermangement as the vandal herself is known to use every obscene comment in the book to ridicule anyone disagreeing. Because feisty is so smart and sophisiticated. Youre such a joke and a FR hack.
ok, we can start with you.
Domenico -- Many thanks! Excellent piece.
I would say the only Foreign Policy Romney has is his 1% Buddies !!!!!
While I appreciate your concern, I'm wide awake and MUCH better off than I was 4 years ago...
Might be a good time for you to log off and take a walk before you "stroke out"! ;o)
I can see your bottom lip quivering all the way over here! lol
Mitt is risky bet. Anyone disagree? The president has been in office for four years and his agenda is up for discussion, but Mitts agenda is so vague he cannot tell us what it is.
FR doesn't even come close to resembling a real "NEWS" site.
The bias that is displayed here is beyond belief. They have no interest in covering any story that is pertinent and truth is a foreign word to them.
Every story they present is slanted pro-Obama and anti-Romney.
I am currently reading Atlas Shrugged (again) and it is AMAZING how fact resembles fiction.
JUST FACE IT... WE ARE ALL DOOMED! I personally am looking for the valley (you know... Atlantis... Midas' Gulch)!
:o)
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Yet you were willing to accept that 4 years ago... Why?
Oh yeah... I remember... promises of Hope and Change... HAHAHAH!!!!
(That has worked out real well, don't you think? Perhaps we should ask the additional 9M people that are out of work now.)
Romney is a disgrace to his faith... I have a number of Mormon friends, and none of them are as untruthful as Romney is... They are wonderful people... Not Romney....
He lies and lies so that even he now believes what he's saying...
Romney has announced his high level advisor prospects, and they are as follows:
1) Magic 8 Ball
2) Ouija Board
3) Dice
They will be meeting very soon to come up with Mittens next position!
And please pity the poor conservatives on here, struggling to be heard, whining "but...but...but what about that Bengaazi thing". I guess that is what it says on DunbFux Entertainment channel's daily whining script? Go back and look at virtually all of their lame comments, that must also be what Rush and Sean told them to complain about today? At least they are well trained!
When I drive by a used car lot and see the sales person talking and moving his arms around as his victim looks on .... it turns my stomach ...
Romney brings on that same feeling ... no warranty needed ... Trust Me!!!!!!!
.....and you wonder why people think that those who run this website, and some who post on it are on Obama's payroll.
Why hasn't FIRST READ pointed out that Obama LIED when he said he refferred to the Benghazi attack specifically in his Rose Garden speech , as an act of terrorism, when it's clear that he did not?
Why don't you mention that even "The Daily Beast" says that Obama's attempt to call Romney out for flip flopping on a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq "falls flat on its face."
This is the same "stuff" you pulled four years ago, when FIRST READ failed to tell it's "readership" about;
The fact of the matter is that Obama is in so far over his head when it comes to foreign policy, that Bill Clinton has to hold his hand. If it weren't for Hillary, and Bill Clinton the Obama administration wouldn't even HAVE a foreign policy.
We need a President who can think for himself, and who can bring this country back to where it needs to be economically.
WE NEED MITT ROMNEY, NOW!
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!
The twits and dimwits on the left are in utter panic mode today and will be until one week after Romney becomes President. Then they will fall in line and just become annoying again.
I can't wait till Romney gets elected ad we can get this country on a good course again. It will be nice to be able to watch a State of the Union address again and have hope for another day.
When one does the math, it's a "Win" "Win" for President OBAMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rukidding47 ... as with Bush ... another fool you supported ...
I guess you didn't see your idiot candidate get schooled in the last debate ... a hollow suit ... sad!
Vermillion Sky
Vermillion Sky
Right-Wing Media Help Romney Hide His Opposition To The Successful Auto Rescue
During Debate, Romney Claimed He "Would Do Nothing To Hurt The U.S. Auto Industry." During the final presidential debate, Romney claimed that he did not want to liquidate the auto industry, but instead had proposed a plan for U.S. auto companies to go through a managed bankruptcy.
Right media Echoes:
In Fact, Romney Consistently Opposed Giving Government Funds To U.S. Auto Companies.
That's the problem. It's the media not exposing MYTH as being the not so good all American businessman. MYTH is a vulture amongst things; namely a LIAR who stands for nothing America including his courtship with, craaaazied GOP leaders, birthers and whacked Tea angers .
FIRED UP
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
Obama/Biden 2012
OK Spanky, now I know you are full of crap. First of all, I see a OB-GYN in Cali, as I am female. What's your excuse? Yes, once again a man spreading falsehoods about women's health. Where have I heard that before?
Spanky-
Really? A quick look at San Diego alone turned up 250 of them.
This article is in direct lockstep with Wafflin Willard to the tee. Romney is the only one I know who would lie to get elected. His sidesteppin and sidespining on the issues is becoming exhausting. Willard is always saying something different depending on the audience. He can't get his facts straight, stumbles and bumbles on the issues and has no plan for America. His performance on the 3rd debate proved what a lightweight he is on the issues, his memorization of foreign policy feel apart when Obama brought in the heat. If the GOP thinks it can "hoodwink" this country with this candidate wink again.
In matters of foreign policy, Mitt Romney, stated he wants to have a 'peaceful planet', he has in recent days developed a dovish streak, somewhat reminds me of GBW, who in a debate for the 2000 election, swore up and down, being a compassionate conservative, he would not use our troops for nation building.
Three years later, we were on our way to Iraq on the pretext of WMDs are lying around as if for the taking and nation building soon started, we are still in Afghanistan for 12 yrs also nation building.
Mitt Romney, is very much like GWB, he has no sense of the world or its many cultures and histories including our history with them. Both of them exhibit the lack of curiosity and interest needed to interact with the various governments we must work with and negotiate to mutual benefit. George Bush was pushed and prodded by Neo Cons who had an agenda that he couldn't visualize and in effect became their puppet with disastrous results, as 17 of the 24 Romney advisors are left overs from the Bush administration we have another puppet in the making.
Mitt Romney showed during his fundraising tour of Europe and Israel, he is unsuitable to represent the US on the world stage. Having the same lack of understanding as GWB of how diplomacy and history work in our dealings with other countries, we do not know what he would do or how likely he would be schooled by Neo Cons in any foreign policy situation.
In a recent BBC poll of a number of nations as to who they would like to work with as President, President Obama was overwhelmingly the winner. A replica of GWB they do not want.
The costs of the two wars alone have set us in a financial hole, these decisions alone account for over 5000 of our troops killed and countless more damaged for life. Leaving their families to deal with the aftermath with little or no help from the republicans as they have repeatedly refused in Congress to make funds available to help them as they did to the first responders at 9/11.
Hey Spanky,
Is Sacramento in tumult over San Bernardino refusing to pay into CalPers?
It's all about jobs and who has a real plan and who knows what business owners need and want
and thats Romney
LOL !
Mitt Romney is the perfect example of a candidate who will say ANYTHING to get elected.
Obama/Biden 2012
President OBAMA has a new Book of his agenda ( "BLUEPRINT" ) What does ROBMEHOOD have ?, All RobMe has as a plan is negative television advertising of hate and lies and voters are getting sick of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vote OBAMA / 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CRinCali-Apparently "Spanky" is too busy doing just that...Spankin his monkey. Where do you think he got the name from? Next thing you know, he will start telling us how great George W. Shrub was as President, unfortunately the history books (and every other credible media source) has named him the worst Presiedent in history, but that doesn't matter to eh Monkey Spanker, he still supports his "man"!
At present Mitt has no more idea what His agenda might be as President than any of us do. He is though, quite excited about It. Mitt's toting a new bowl of gravy, and giving it to all who will partake. Thin as the bull milk It's made of, but, as He likes to point out; It's better than His earlier bullsh^t. Course the bulls who gave it are happy.
Ms. Redhead-
The Romnesia is truly the perfect GOP monster. Created from years of careful planning by the RW Media, and the Koch-type uber wealthy.
The good news is the MAJORITY of Americans can't stand either of these, and we will prevail.
Salud
Does that include those killed and wounded due to the surge ordered by President Obama?
ZMan2012....."We need a President who can think for himself, and who can bring this country back to where it needs to be economically."
Yep, time for Mr. Obama to get OFF the skirt strings of Valerie Jarrett. She is probably the one pushing Mr. Obama's agenda since Mrs. Obama did not want Oprah to be the main "focus" or anywhere near Mr. Obama's universe. Valierie is a "part of the Obama family".
Now you know why Oprah was thrown under the ObamaWagon. Then there is Rev. Wright, the Kennedy family and the Latino community.
FLYeisty for Romney~Ryan 2012.
TO: Rgray1965 who wrote:
Businesses are not hurting, they're stacking cash and making money hand over fist.
It's the American People who are hurting, and Romney doesn't understand that, and it seems Republicans overall don't understand exactly what the problems are that need fixing.
Which is why I'm voting to re-elect President Obama, who DOES understand exactly what's going on, AND how to fix it.
I'm also voting a straight Democrat ticket because, again, Republicans don't understand what the problems are today, and they're focused on businesses that don't have any problems.
Obama/Biden 2012
Spanky...
Surely you must understand that these Lunatics take everything you say LITERALLY.
Your statement that there are no more OB/Gyn's left in Cali (while intended to demonstrate that doctors are getting frustrated with the cost of malpractice insurance and in many cases leaving Cali to practice elsewhere) is easily understood by any adult... yet misses the mark with these child-like liberals.
Just like a 6-year old child, when you tell them to wait a minute... in 60 seconds they will call you a liar.
However... in true hypocrite fashion... when it comes to Obama and the words he chooses to use... these liberal children find the ability to 'interpret' his meaning... which is always wonderful... and never a lie.
Go Figure :-(
Don't you know that business owners are evil 1%ers? The only acceptable employers are billionaire democrats or the government.
Bush II didn't and he started a war which killed thousands? You exaggerate this much when having sex too? :)
BO 2012
BO 2012
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain who wears a FOX TAIL on his head. This is the same fool who was supposed to dispatch his crackpot team to Hawaii to prove our President was born in Kenya. Donald Trump is a buffoon!!!
FIRED UP
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
Obama/Biden 2012
James Biden isn’t a big name in the business of residential housing development, so what exactly qualifies him to work at a construction company and share in the winnings of a $1.5 billion project to build affordable homes in Iraq?
If you said it has something to do with his last name, the one shared by his older brother Vice President Joe Biden, you wouldn’t be far off. At least that’s the guess of some Wall Street analysts who cover the Marlton, NJ-based company Hill International and think they’ve seen yet another sordid tale of crony capitalism.
Hill has been around for decades; its main business is managing construction projects in the Middle East and here in America. It’s built a good reputation over the years, as has the father-son team who run it, Irv and David Richter.
But the bursting of the real-estate bubble took its toll; Hill shares are down 80 percent since 2008. Since 2011, the company has reported losses. Its Middle East business has also been stymied by the Arab Spring uprisings; in Libya alone, Hill is out $60 million in payments that it’s still trying to recover.
But it got some good news not long after its housing subsidiary hired James Biden as an executive vice president in late 2010. Just six months later, Hill won one of its biggest contracts ever, a $1.5 billion deal to build at least 100,000 affordable homes in Iraq.
A good deal for Hill, a relative newcomer to building homes — and for James Biden, who as one partner will get a good share of that $1.5 billion.
The deal is contingent on the Iraqi government providing financing, which it has yet to do, but Hill execs tell analysts the money could start flowing by the end of the year. That’s when everyone involved, James Biden included, will start collecting on tens of millions of dollars in profits.
One friend of James Biden’s estimates his net worth at around $7 million, yet he seems to have a remarkable lack of concrete business experience. An attorney who’s done work for him called him a “serial entrepreneur,” but didn’t name the startups he was responsible for.
Hill chief Irv Richter called Biden a “good salesman” and the firm’s Web site describes “40 years of experience dealing with principals in business, political, legal and financial circles across the nation and internationally.”
(James Biden also had a relatively short and somewhat controversial run as a co-owner of a hedge-fund company with Joe’s son Hunter. The company, as it turns out, was marketed by companies controlled by now convicted Ponzi schemer Allen Stanford. Neither Biden was charged, but the fund company is now winding down its operations.)
No, James Biden’s obvious value comes from his connection to the Obama administration. Richter assures me that James’ ties to Joe played no part in landing the plum assignment in Iraq or any of the other government-related jobs Hill has received recently.
Really? Connect these dots: Both the Iraqi government and the Obama State Department played roles in helping Hill win the assignment, Richter concedes. And Joe Biden is President Obama’s point man on Iraq — a country where people expect politicians’ families to be “taken care of.”
Also key is TRAC Development, a South Korean firm that won the master contract for the Iraq work. And — huh! — James Biden and his wife were guests of President Obama and Michelle for last October’s state dinner honoring the president of South Korea, Lee Myung-bak.
All one big coincidence?
Well, Richter insists that, while Biden’s name and connections might open doors when government business is on the line, that doesn’t guarantee success. “If he had the name Obama, he would get in the door easier,” Richter joked.
During this month’s vice-presidential debate, Joe Biden told Americans to just ignore all that stimulus money that went to administration-connected failures like Solyndra. Crony capitalism, he insisted, hardly exists with Joe Biden and Barack Obama watching the store.
Maybe that’s why the veep, after making that dopey statement, was laughing so much that night.
The late Ted Kennedy had it right way back in 1994 and it hasn't changed ....
“Mitt Romney isn't pro-choice; he's not anti-choice; he's multiple choice”
The reality is that Mitt Romney could say anything, to anyone, and the GOP supporters would eat it up, nod their heads, bleat and vote for him.
It really does not matter which old white man the GOP put up against President Obama. The GOP faithful would even support a ticket consisting of Akin and Mourdock. They really just don't like that man in the Whitehouse.
The supporters of Romney just don't realize how dangerous it is to have a vacuous, mindless, evil person as the leader of the Republican party. We can only hope he does not win the election.
Vote for the Democratic Party, the future of the world depends on it.
The biggest problem I had while watching the third debate was that even before President Obama could finish saying / responding to Bob Schiffer's question, Romney would say, "yes, I agree with the President." Then I realized the man is trying to play soft-defense-offense.
Romney has taken many avatars (different shapes and forms) and just like a car salesman, he would say or do anything to sell his Romneynimics, a branch of economics in which numbers don't add up, and giving tax cuts to the rich cuts is the antidote to all the economic problems in the world.
When asked (in the third debate) how he would pay for the $5 trillion tax cuts and $2 trillion additional defense spending that he is proposing (the spending that our military leaders don't want), Romney couldn't provide an answer. Kept saying that his numbers will add by themselves. huhh?
His foreign policy shift (China, Syria, Egypt, Iran, etc.) is even more mind boggling. It's like one day, he was a war-monger, saber-rattling and all ready to bomb the hell out of Iran. The next day, he is a total convert to Dalai Lama faith and preaching peace and love.
Should we believe this guy? Of course not.
And neither does Obama. All Obama does is call for tax increases and more spending. Obama has been President for almost 4 years and has been a failure. I will be glad to vote for Romney and if he doesn't get the job done then next election I will vote for someone else. I will trust Romney to work across the aisle and seek compromise instead of thinking he deserves everything he wants like Obama does.
BTW, why is it a flip-flop if Romney changes or modifies his views and when Obama changes his views it's call "revolving"?
LOL - Really? I'm sure you're going to write an article about them also.
First Read is so funny withthese DNC campaign stories. Please don't in the middle of your hit piece article use the words "to be fair" as if First Read and NBC are anything other than a mouth piece for the Obama Machine.
Romney either lied to the right or to independents, I don't see anyone disputing that he is a liar. If he is not crying himself to sleep he has no soul.
The future of the WORLD????? LMFAO!!!! You have got to be kidding me!!!!!! What about the universe?
I dispute he is a liar. There now you have one.
Tell me one instance when Obama flip-flopped so wacky that you can call him a flip-flopper. Except of course in Gun Control, where Obama has changed his views from liberal to a more centrist approach.
James Biden isn’t a big name in the business of residential housing development, so what exactly qualifies him to work at a construction company and share in the winnings of a $1.5 billion project to build affordable homes in Iraq?
If you said it has something to do with his last name, the one shared by his older brother Vice President Joe Biden, you wouldn’t be far off. At least that’s the guess of some Wall Street analysts who cover the Marlton, NJ-based company Hill International and think they’ve seen yet another sordid tale of crony capitalism.
Hill has been around for decades; its main business is managing construction projects in the Middle East and here in America. It’s built a good reputation over the years, as has the father-son team who run it, Irv and David Richter.
But the bursting of the real-estate bubble took its toll; Hill shares are down 80 percent since 2008. Since 2011, the company has reported losses. Its Middle East business has also been stymied by the Arab Spring uprisings; in Libya alone, Hill is out $60 million in payments that it’s still trying to recover.
But it got some good news not long after its housing subsidiary hired James Biden as an executive vice president in late 2010. Just six months later, Hill won one of its biggest contracts ever, a $1.5 billion deal to build at least 100,000 affordable homes in Iraq.
A good deal for Hill, a relative newcomer to building homes — and for James Biden, who as one partner will get a good share of that $1.5 billion.
The deal is contingent on the Iraqi government providing financing, which it has yet to do, but Hill execs tell analysts the money could start flowing by the end of the year. That’s when everyone involved, James Biden included, will start collecting on tens of millions of dollars in profits.
One friend of James Biden’s estimates his net worth at around $7 million, yet he seems to have a remarkable lack of concrete business experience. An attorney who’s done work for him called him a “serial entrepreneur,” but didn’t name the startups he was responsible for.
Hill chief Irv Richter called Biden a “good salesman” and the firm’s Web site describes “40 years of experience dealing with principals in business, political, legal and financial circles across the nation and internationally.”
(James Biden also had a relatively short and somewhat controversial run as a co-owner of a hedge-fund company with Joe’s son Hunter. The company, as it turns out, was marketed by companies controlled by now convicted Ponzi schemer Allen Stanford. Neither Biden was charged, but the fund company is now winding down its operations.)
No, James Biden’s obvious value comes from his connection to the Obama administration. Richter assures me that James’ ties to Joe played no part in landing the plum assignment in Iraq or any of the other government-related jobs Hill has received recently.
Really? Connect these dots: Both the Iraqi government and the Obama State Department played roles in helping Hill win the assignment, Richter concedes. And Joe Biden is President Obama’s point man on Iraq — a country where people expect politicians’ families to be “taken care of.”
Also key is TRAC Development, a South Korean firm that won the master contract for the Iraq work. And — huh! — James Biden and his wife were guests of President Obama and Michelle for last October’s state dinner honoring the president of South Korea, Lee Myung-bak.
All one big coincidence?
Well, Richter insists that, while Biden’s name and connections might open doors when government business is on the line, that doesn’t guarantee success. “If he had the name Obama, he would get in the door easier,” Richter joked.
During this month’s vice-presidential debate, Joe Biden told Americans to just ignore all that stimulus money that went to administration-connected failures like Solyndra. Crony capitalism, he insisted, hardly exists with Joe Biden and Barack Obama watching the store.
Maybe that’s why the veep, after making that dopey statement, was laughing so much that night.
sfcret ... "I will trust Romney to work across the aisle and seek compromise"
The only reason Romney worked across the aisle was because the only people across the aisle were Democrats!!!!!!! And Democrats with good ideas which he NOW takes credit for ....
He did not run for reelection because he would have lost. So he did a complete turn around on all of his stances so he could run as a right wing nut conservative ....
Truth is not his strength ... truth to him is something that gets in the way of winning .................
The House Education and Workforce Committee is renewing its previous demands for President Barack Obama’s administration to turn over documents related to the scandal surrounding the termination of 20,000 Delphi nonunion retirees’ pensions during the 2009 auto industry bailout.
“It’s past time for the Obama administration to stop hiding the facts and start cooperating with congressional oversight,” committee chairman Rep. John Kline said in a Wednesday news release. “For more than three years, Delphi’s non-union workers have been demanding answers about decisions made in secret that weakened their retirement security. They deserve to know who in the administration helped pick winners and losers and why.”
Read more: #ixzz2AEtzR9qg
All these SHIFTS as First Read likes to call them are such mickey mouse B.S.
You can be for a time table but against announcing such a time table to your enemy.
You can be for a two state solution (like every other president) but also be realistic that it hasn't happened in the last 5+ decades and will probably not happen during your term either, especially when you look at the conditions and the characters currently in charge now.
You can be for a diplomatic solution to a nuclear Iran but also think that diplomacy should be backed by strength and a real commitment of force if diplomacy fails. Everyone knows Obama will do NOTHING if diplomacy fails. Everyone knows this including Iran.
Again, this article is the biggest piece of $hi!t First read has ever put out, and that's saying something for these hacks.
Romney is in full etch-a-sketch mode as he tries to widen his support. Do we know where Mitt Romney really stands on any issue? He will say anything to be President. He is the ultimate snake oil salesman...."I have a cure for you", and each day he tries a different sales pitch for that same old snake oil. Romney's snake oil is just plain no good for America.
Mitt Romney cannot be trusted.
OBAMA 2012....for a fairer, better future in America.
Now that "LogicReguired" is on the scene with his same OLD BS ... the only logical thing to do is leave before getting sick ...................
Millions and Millions of Americans Can't Stomach Ryan, can you just see this "Wimp" running this Nation, that would be a total joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.) agree to public financing of the general election
2.) individual mandate to purchase health insurance, which he campaigned against in 2008, and later alternately declaring that the mandate both is and is not a tax.
3.) Obama promised to cut the annual budget deficit in half by the end of his first time.
4.) He told an Oregon newspaper that he would stop the Drug Enforcement Agency’s raids on local pot clinics. The pace of raids on medical marijuana clinics actually picked up under Obama, and at the time of Sullum’s story were more frequent than under his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush.
5.) Campaigned against the Bush tax cuts; then extended all of them
6.) Vowed the unemployment rate would be below 8% if his stimulus was passed; but then it broke 10%.
7.) Said if you like your health plan you can keep it; but then threw seniors off Medicare Plus and employers are now saying they’ll dump people onto the public exchange.
8.) Indicated Bush violated the Constitution; then carried out warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detentions, secret renditions, quadrupled drone attacks, and kept Guantanamo Bay open. Voted against the Patriot Act, but then supported its extension.
9.) Said lobbyists wouldn’t work in the White House; then gave them waivers to work there.
TAKE YOUR PICK
Yes, it is best to leave when you can't argue the points.
P.S. "LogicReguired" is me making fun of people like you, which is why Required is spelled wrong.
Patriotic American,
Have you ever written anything not IN BOLD?
I don't really pay attention to people like you but I think this BOLD stuff is kind of a pattern.
Tea sucks - Obama supported the concept of marriage being between a "man and woman". Now he is all for "same sex marriages". He supported DOMA and now he is against it, to the point that he refuses to allow his DOJ to defend it in court. As a Senator Obama stated, while voting against raising the debt ceiling, raising the debt ceiling shows a lack of leadership and is putting our children's in debt (or words to that effect). He has asked and gotten several debt ceiling increasing. Obama was against the Patriot Act yet extended it. He promised to veto a bill that would extend the so called Bush tax cuts, yet he extended it.
There are many many more but that will give you a start.
Lying Ryan got his nickname here in Wisconsin and now the rest of you are only getting used to him and it. he sure fits it doesn't he!
Romney is God Damn Liar!
Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!
That's all you got, isn't it? It has been really funny watching the Republicans try to find something, anything that resonates... now we got a headline detailing, in Mitt's own words, just what a two-faced liar he is!
And the response? Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!
@newscover#1.98: "Logic reguired" deals in "mouse turds". Always keeps a pocket full of the little nuggets. Those left after posting, He/She eats. Times are hard for rats.
Just to let you know I own two company's and yes we are hurting BIG TIME little girl in 2007 I had 27 workers I am now down to 5 part timers.I know hundreds of business owners and we are all hurting bad real bad
Obama kills job creators and when Obama care hits we are done good bye America
And the ones that are holding on to there money if he wins they will be spending it in China.
I think I've finally figured out Romney's strategy. He's counting on the American public's penchant for gambling. This goes back to the beginning of our economic shift. Reagan got approval for cutting worker's paychecks in exchange for increased credit, so that the middle class could gamble their New Deal savings in a bid to join the ranks of the super wealthy. Add to that the wild success of the casinos, and the millions of personal brokerage accounts created along with the internet, and it becomes clear just how much many Americans love the thrill of gambling.
Romney's pitch to us is: you can take the sure bet with Obama, where you know what you're getting; or, you can take whatever is behind door number 3! Think about that game show for a minute. How many people took the stove and refrigerator they had won, and how many people gambled on the 'surprise' behind the door? Romney is counting on the latter to vote for him.
Just a reminder: it is true that sometimes the contestant who gambled on the surprise won a new car. But sometimes they won a years supply of Rice-a-Roni. Good luck.
NOT OPTIMAL IN DEED!!!
Romney was right and BOZOhuseen was lying ....Again!!!!....REuters report from Washington,,,
The truth is coming out about Libya......more lies from Barry, Over-the-Hill'ry and drunken-Biden.....preplanned Islamic Terrorist attack....nothing to do with the video...The White House had 7 hours to save the UNarmed Embassy people... and let them be murdered!!
Hey BOZOhussen, the USA now has these ships that have planes land and take off from them--they are called aircraft carriers....WHY did you NOT help the embassy people??!!
Even the inept jimmy "the peanut brain" Carter did not allow our Embassy people to be murdered!!!
The only thing authentic about Mitt Romney is the fraud that he is.
Americans,
Vote Democratic, re-elect President Obama. Let President Obama select 2 judges to the Supreme Court and squash the right wing lunatic fringe nutjobs from installing a theocracy.
Vote for President Obama, the survival of our nation depends on it.
********* "Romnesia + Rubber Stamp = 1%" *********
This story is terrible. The Bias is blatant. Romney's 'changes' are hardly changes. NBC you've claimed Romney's made 'changes' where there weren't changes and you've decided to brush off and 'changes' that the President may have made using your own token twisting. You flippantly disregard actual news in favor of character bashing. I imagine if you were a real news agency and not some second rate story telling pricks trying to push the liberal agenda down our throats we would be able to hear some actual news. Not this bullsh!t slander. I think the public is really getting sick of how blatantly you cover for the President.
Huh?
previously:
Why in the world do you go to the people that you’re fighting with and tell them the date you’re pulling out your troops?
now:
...when I'm president, we'll make sure we bring our troops out by the end of 2014.
Do you get that? He lambasted Obama for putting out a date when he would have troops out. Now he has publicly announced the very same thing before he is even president.
But I guess that's OK. IOKIYAR, eh?
Yeah, it certainly is. Bias for Romney. This article was originally written with quite a few quotes from Romney that illustrated his changes towards abortion. Now it has none of that. Just who the hell did Romney pay off?
Looks like the cheap tart w/o a life is once again 1st to post on yet another Political thread..... Get a life, get a job, try being a productive citizen, and for Christs' sake, put down that super-size bag of potato chip, big can of bean-n-cheese dip and your diet soft drink.
And who could have ever figured out that you can't stand G.W. Bush, or anything conservative. I'll bet the word conservative fit's your life style, about as well as moral values go with prostitution.
And if Romney reminds of you a box of chocolates (which by the way, you should put those down too), what the hell are you going to compare Barry Soetoro too, he's a bigger whore of a liar than Michelle. And if memory serves me correctly, you were all giddy and full of praise for racist Michelle's BS speech at the DNC.... what was the word you used.... oh yea... CLASS,.... well, my, my, my.... some people are just so inbred, so fk'ed up that they can't even see past their belly. Here a little reality check on the speech that made you all giddy, and likely had you running back-n-forth to the cupboard for munchies and diet soda.
Enjoy your reality check.....
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/05/Fact-Check-Michelle-Obama-s-False-Fairy-Tale-of-Struggle
As for your bald face lying, well fat baby, that definitely became tolerable for you in Nov. 2008, when you voted on skin color, and intangible things like HOPE, CHANGE and YES WE CAN.
Tell me fat baby, what was the one promise (just name 1) that Barry made in 2008 and kept, and that makes you believe he deserves another chance at spending this country's way into prosperity?.... and enjoy another 19 vacations and 110 rounds of golf on my tax dollars... not your's though, you gotta have a job and an income to pay taxes?
When will Congress, start impeachment proceeding's against Obama for lying about the deaths, of four Americans,in Benghazi, Libya. The lies and cover-up continue! Obama, the American people have a right to know the truth, have a press conference. Stop lying.
WHAT foreign policy? Romney will say whatever he's told and right now he's told to follow President Obama's foreign policy - since it's working.
What a spineless snake Romney truly is!
Obama/Biden 2012
Yep Sanity - and Obama came up with his ploicy all on his onw, right?
Say Sanity - can you tell us the difference between O and Bush on this?
Both seem to like Gitmo, rendition, the patriot act.
So Sanity - who's policies are working?
Say it. Come on, say it...BBBBUUUUUSSHHHH.
Which just might be a factor in why O is down these days.
Don't be a fool Spanky, all presidents inherit the foreign policy of the predecessor. Believe me Obama would have preferred not to have inherited two unfunded wars and a Bush's failed diplomacy. Fortunately, Obama fixed Bush's blunders and we now have a sane strategy in the world and now have respect.
Take a look at opinions of the world as they choose Obama over Romney by 80 points or more in the BBC poll conducted just recently. In most European countries Obama won by a landslide and Romney won only in Taliban-style countries like Pakistan. Clearly, Obama is the heavily favored candidate to the world.
Bush was a disaster and Romney will be if elected.
Romney should have a disclaimer at the bottom of every statement he makes:
Position subject to change. Past behavior is no indicator of future results. Eligibility not available to 47% of current residents. Any interpretation of the words 'devotion', 'dedication', 'promise', 'truth' or 'honor' is reserved for Mitt Romney. Offer limited. May not be combined with similar offers from Paul Ryan. Restrictions apply. Purchase and lifetime commitment required. See fine print for details. Brought to you by Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers. A wholly owned subsidiary of Grover Norquist.
Oh, I see.
We should look to Europe.
Fantastic. They are doing so totally awesome right now.
So, just for fun - when you say disaster, you mean like Italy, Greece, SPain?
France and a 75% income tax? England that circles the drain?
You are funny.
Romney's foreign policy is the same as every other policy he has...
Confuse the $%& out of everyone and deny everything!
Jon-1234567
Romney's foreign policy is the same as every other policy he has...
Confuse the $%& out of everyone and deny everything!
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As opposed to Obamas policy - pray and hope things get better?
FR doesn't even come close to resembling a real "NEWS" site.
The bias that is displayed here is beyond belief. They have no interest in covering any story that is pertinent and truth is a foreign word to them.
Every story they present is slanted pro-Obama and anti-Romney.
I am currently reading Atlas Shrugged (again) and it is AMAZING how fact resembles fiction.
JUST FACE IT... WE ARE ALL DOOMED! I personally am looking for the valley (you know... Atlantis... Midas' Gulch)!
:o)
Rumors the GOP TeaReTarded Cult is Rigging Florida & Colorado Election !!!!!!!!!!!!
You really want talk about lying? We invaded another country based on a feeling that Bush had. Not only did we disregard the UN, nearly every country besides Great Britain, we ridiculed every leader, every group, every individual who disagreed with the President. President Obama never lied to anyone. If you think that that movie didn't incite violence you're out of your mind, sure the attack was planned but that movie pushed them over the edge. I want my president to make the right decisions, not ones shot from the hip. Mitt Romney will lead us straight to war, no way in hell is he worthy of the office of President of the United States.
You will have to wait and see what Romney's foreign policy is after he is elected.
How do you like them apples.
Nancy P back at ya.
Romney doesn't have a foreign policy, he has foreign bank accounts.
Obama/Biden 2012
TO: Jon-1234567 who wrote:
Good one!
Obama/Biden 2012
“Mitt Romney isn't pro-choice; he's not anti-choice; he's multiple choice,”
He could have a debate with himself... Wait..he is!
Hey rukidding #2.10, Now you are talking about Apples, When you go shopping - if you see a rotten apple, that's Romney or Ryan, if you see a nice polished shining apple that's got to be our President !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vote for the Apple that is Shining, "PRESIDENT OBAMA" ******************* !!!
The House Education and Workforce Committee is renewing its previous demands for President Barack Obama’s administration to turn over documents related to the scandal surrounding the termination of 20,000 Delphi nonunion retirees’ pensions during the 2009 auto industry bailout.
“It’s past time for the Obama administration to stop hiding the facts and start cooperating with congressional oversight,” committee chairman Rep. John Kline said in a Wednesday news release. “For more than three years, Delphi’s non-union workers have been demanding answers about decisions made in secret that weakened their retirement security. They deserve to know who in the administration helped pick winners and losers and why.”
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Mitt Flip-Flop Romney,
A wishy-washy, flip flopping politician without any core convictions, principals or believes a man who will say or do anything to get elected telling one crowd one thing and another crowd another.
You simply can’t trust this guy to tell you the truth.
A pathetic little man who will say anything to get elected
Witchking - "Salule", They got to be Moron's to vote for Romney !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can!
Bush was stupid! Obama is not! There is the biggest difference!
C'mon, 10 years to subdue two countries smaller than some US states? WWI lasted 4 years and WWII lasted 6 years. These were wars fought on a global scale. The idiots in charge, good Republican businessmen, lost sight of the goal. More worried about Halliburton's profits than US security, they dithered until the clock ran out and then retired to live in luxury with "thank you's" from Halliburton.
Al Quaeda is our enemy. Al Quaeda doesn't have a country. Al Quaeda is spread among many countries with a distributed network of operatives. How do you fight a ground war against this? You can't!
What you can do is make it very, very dangerous to be an Al Quaeda leader. Obama has done that:
June 2012 - Yahya al Libi killed (senior al Qaeda leader in Pakistan)
September 2011 – Younis al Mauritani captured (senior al Qaeda leader in Pakistan)
September 2011 – Abu Hafs al-Shahri killed (al Qaeda’s chief of Pakistan operations)
August 2011 – Atiyah Abd al-Rahman killed (Al Qaeda No. 2 in Pakistan)
May 2011 – Osama bin Laden killed (Number 1 Al Qaeda, and worlds most wanted)
June 2011 – Fazul Abdullah Mohammed killed (top al-Qaeda operative in Somalia)
June 2011 – Ilyas Kashmiri killed (top al- Qaeda commander in Pakistan)
June 2010 – Hawza al Jawfi killed along with 6 other terrorist (leader in Pakistan)
May 2010 – Mustafa Ahmed Muhammad Uthman Abu al-Yazid killed [aliases Shaikh Sa’id al-Masri and Mustafa Abu al-Yazid] (al Qaeda’s No. 3)
April 2010 – Abu Ayyub al-Masri and Abu Umar al-Baghdadi (Top two Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq)
March 2010 – Qari Mohammad Zafar killed (terrorist leader in Pakistan)
February 2010 – Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar captured (The Taliban’s top military commander)
February 2010 – Sirajuddin Haqqani killed (militant commander in Pakistan)
January 2010 – Qassem al-Rimi, Ayed al-Shabwani, Ammar al-Waili, Saleh al-Tais, Ibrahim and Mohammed Saleh al-Banna killed (Al-Qaeda military boss and senior Al-Qaeda figures in the Arabian Peninsula)
December 2009 – Saleh Al-Somali killed (senior al Qaeda operative in Pakistan)
September 2009 – Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan killed (ringleader of an al Qaeda cell in Kenya)
Now, I ask you - who is/was more concerned about America's security? Bush, who led us to two long, wasteful, fruitless ground wars? Or Obama, who has made it very, very dangerous to be an Al Quaeda leader?
@Sick
Your problem is you have issues with any news outlet that doesn't hawk the tea party line. That leaves you Faux and numerous right wing blogs both of whom the truth is not even a distant relative. Maybe it's because all of them are on to your loser candidate. They happen to be printing the truth. The fact that you don't like it is of no concern to any of us, except you and your bottom feeder friends.
Obama is a liar and Romney will be the next POTUS
Romney...52% Obama...45%
Doesn't look good for the big-eared bandit!
"Your lack of intelligence shows" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Romney has never had an "honest belief" about anything. If he did, why does he CONSTANTLY change his mind? Does he even know what kind of an impression that this constant Flip-Flopping leaves behind? As for his so called Foreign Policy, does he suddenly disagree with his running mate, who kept spouting "PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH"? If that does'nt mean we will go to war, I don't know what does! And now all of the sudden he just MAGICALLY AGREES with our President! HOW can ANYONE take this man seriously? Does he really think that he is so "ENTITLED" to be the next POTUS, that he can sell himself to people who are actually rational and intelligent? Maybe, but then again maybe NOT, this is not a person who will do anything for anyone other than himself, and the sooner people realize this the better off we will ALL be.
Spin all you want NBC, coherent Americans will be voting for Romney.
GermanGem - YOU clearly don't speak for coherent Americans. And, you clearly don't know what the word means since it makes no sense. Let me explain it for your wee little mind - coherent: sticking together; orderly; consistent.
You ARE a typical Repubican - not even a little bit of common sense!
Obama/Biden 2012
I will not be voting for Romney and my whole family, including those in the active military, will be voting for the President. I admit that Romney is an impressive debater but his positions are all over the map and I am not sure he has any positions he believes in. His positions change depending on who he is talking to. The President is not only more consistent in his views but also has views that take into consideration all Americans, not just the well-to-do.
We are fairly well-to-do and are disappointed at the Republican platform and Romney's campaign.
I identify with GermanGem, and even if I didn't, I would not admonish or castigate her with personal insults Seeking. That is not how one should prove or make a point.
Typical Obama Zombie remarks.
Only terrorists and idiots will be voting for Obama.
Obama Fail - read her incoherent post then make your comments. Clearly you haven't followed her posts in the past as she had ridiculed and put others down. If you had, you woul know exactly where I am coming from. Look at ther next post and see the type of classless buffoon you "identify" with.
Middle Class Mom - clealy you are thinking about the future of your children as well as our country. We need more who are thinking clearly!
German Gem - only crude, classless cretins like you would vote Romney!
People who love this country and want it to thrive will vote Obama.
Obama/Biden 2012
Sorry seeking..her post is not incoherent. It is laconic and poignant.
Your post, however, is filled with hateful insults.
Obama is bankrupting America. What part of that don't Obama Zombies understand?
SS- YOU are the one who personally attacks those who disagree with you.
Um, German Gem, they are just reporting quotes by Willard Mitt Romney. You know, actual things he has said repeatedly for 7 years until 5 weeks before the election.
Any coherent American who can read can understand Willard Mitt Romney has no core, no character, no integrity, and no shame.
No spin required.
Seeking...why do you insist on making every point with some hate filled comment...
You group ALL republicans together....to me, that just shows how closed minded you are and how unwilling you are to have a conversation without taking shots at the other side...some of my best friends are democrats and I by no means place them in a group and say all democrats are stupid idiots without a brain....I'm able to carry on a civil conversation about politics with them without stooping to the level of a teenager. Every single one of your comments is filled with hate and anger. Its really sad.
Oh, and you spelled Republican wrong..."common sense"???????
"You ARE a typical Repubican - not even a little bit of common sense!"
We can certainly delve into obama's past and scrounge up a plethora of lies as well. And there is spin required...if the liberal media wants 4 more from him, and they do.
GermanGem - Do you SERIOUSLY think Romney will magically get us out of debt? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?! LOL
His numbers do NOT add up. I truly think Obama has a better chance of reducing our debt than Romney does. Yes, it has increased under Obama but that should start to subside now that the world economy is slowly improving.
If you cite what Romney did for Mass as governor....you are misguided. Sure, he lowered the state taxes...but then reduced money going to the cities and then the cities ended up having to raise property taxes.
If Romney was so great as a governor.....why in the world is Mass leaning Obama?
I really wish people would THINK, READ, RESEARCH rather than be so gosh darn blind.
Please obamafail, tell me his lies, now please things that don't count:
If congress didn't let him pass it, and fox telling you, You need do a research from non partisan and unbiased groups or organizations. then come back.
I can tell you bunch of lies Romney said, that he said just few weeks ago different if you want to I can elaborate for you.
Obama's old plan: spend, spend, spend.
Obama's new plan: tax, tax, tax.
For starters, do you thin obama has ever flip flopped on homosexuality? Abortion??
I think that the media and most Americans are being much to nice in calling Romney a flip flopper. He is an out and out liar. Time and time again he has changed his position to fix the narrative of his audience. I bet if he was in a room full of Hispanics his agenda would include for immigration amnesty, for blacks he would go along with Obama-care, but of course he change it to Romney care for the credit. White women, he would be the drum leader for equal pay and birth control. In the primaries in pandered to angry white men, which now makes up his base, would let Romney shove a stick up their A$$ and they follow him any way just to avoid having Obama. Romney and Ryan are the biggest liars in presidential history.
The economy and jobs are coming back because of Obama. it may be slow but its happening and for the middle class (the 47%) not the rich and wealthy.
German Gem -
First you said:
and then....
Spoken like a true Romney supporter. Ignore your own attacks and cry about others'. Ignore Romney's pretzel logic, fantasy math and ever-changing postions and blindly vote for the 'R'.
Can you or any other Romney supporter identify even a single issue on which he has been consistent over the years?
I challenge you to name just one.
The only thing worse than "Tax and Spend" is the Romney/Bush "Tax Cut and Spend" approach that created this deficit - or did you forget that GW BUsh inherited a surplus?
ObamaFail - I agree with Obama's decisions now....
Abortion and gay marriage should NOT be the governments concern nor should it be YOURS!!!! Feel free to live your life the way you want but do NOT force your thoughts on to others.
I love how the righties like Obama Fail will call someone like me out but let German Gem and her ilk do what they want. Oh I forgot - it's the do as I say not as I do" philosophy. Typical Republican. Can't take it but they can sure dish it out. No problem.
Obama/Biden 2012 for those who actually THINK!
GermanGem
If you define coherent as incomprehensible, irrational, bigoted, and most of all; ambiguous. Why doesn't the math in MYTH's 12 million J-O-B PLAN add up? Where are MYTH Romney's taxes? There all are clouded in mystery just like LYIN a**MYTH.
FIRED UP
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Jeeez GermanGem, "....Only terrorists and idiots will be voting for Obama."
Really? The same old argument. If you don't believe what GermanGem believes, you must be an unpatriotic terrorist. So 2004.
Tnsevol- I don't make PERSONAL attacks. Big difference.
Take a look at the UNBIASED debtclock. America is heading in the wrong direction. USDEBTCLOCK.ORG
National taxpayer debt is now $16,200,000,000,000.00+
that is seeking in a nutshell however she will tell you how smart she is compared to most humans. Seeking is such a useful mammal
Geman ...
You don't make personal attacks? Then what the he!! do you call this?
I call it a broad-brushed bigoted statement.
Obama/Biden 2012
LMAO - "Typical Obama Zombie remarks" I don't make personal attacks. Whine!!!!
German Gem would be funny if she wasn't so predictable and so pathetic!
Layton - don't bother. She is the typical Republican liar - who dishes it out but then whines when someone gives it back!
Obama/Biden 2012
German Gem -
I appreciate your response, although I don't see any difference between insulting one person by name or insulting an entire group by association. It is still a "personal" attack and not a rational disagreement with their opinion or viewpoint.
By the way, I voted for President Obama twice now and I am not a terrorist, an idiot or a zombie. I fall squarely into the "47%" who will vote for President Obama but I am not a victim or dependent on government assistance, and I pay my taxes. I also take personal responsibility for my actions.
I also noticed you couldn't list even one issue on which Mitt Romney has remained consistent over the years.......
General statements are not personal attacks.
German Gem-
OK, I get it now.
Insulting one person (namely you) is wrong, while insulting large groups of people (by you) is acceptable behavior.
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
Still no unchanged Romney positions you can think of, huh?
TNSEVOL - see GermanGem should be given a pass since she is so dumb she doesn't realize she is no better than everyone else! Let her go ahead - she's just a laugh anyway.
Obama/Biden 2012
Why don't you all try DISCUSSING some pertinent issue... rather than simply flinging poo at each other?
This site is nothing but a joke!
Pertinent info like Bengahzi for starters? or how about FR fav; binders.
Well SOTB you see if one tries to speak their mind or general dislike of Obama, there are 5 others that jump on it calling you stupid.
German Gem-Mittens just announced that all foreigners (especially germans) will be self-deporting if he is elected! Sorry to see you go so soon.
And I noticed that you still haven't described anything that Mittens has been consistent on (except his inconsistencies!) , so instead of continuing blathering on with your Dumb Fux whining points, WHY DON"T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?
Caesar... you tell the truth my friend.
FlaNative - Sorry to see you go so soon Ah, not so much! She can't list anything Mitt has been consistent on - no one can - except his flipping! I've never seen such a disgrace as a candidate - for any party!
Obama/Biden 2012
TO: GermanGem who wrote:
The part where Republicans are geering up to spend trillions overseas.
If we're so bankrupt, where are Republicans planning to get all those billions to spend on attacking Iran, and sending American Troops into Libya and Syria?
If we're so bankrupt, where are Republicans going to get that $5 Trillion Dollars in tax cuts that they're promising the 1%ers that are financing Romney's run for office?
Republicans don't seem to remember what happened last time they cut taxes and started to 2 wars, which is why they're rough and ready to do it all over again, and THAT is what "bankrupt" this country!
Now, don't you mean, Republicans are intellectually and morally bankrupt.
Obama/Biden 2012
Hey numb-nuts... You want consistency? How about Mitt's 5-Point Plan? He's been pretty consistent about that. But you haven't read that now have you?
Try going to http://www.mittromney.com/
Click on "Learn About Mitt" then click "5-Point Plan"... READ IT!
Obviously you are one of the (how do the liberal lunatics here at FR put it... oh yeah) under-educated and uninformed voters spewing nothing more than the left-wing talking points.
READ! READ! (you will look much less ridiculous)
:o)
well the last 6-8 years havent been the most prosperous times. We currently having one president saying Look this time I will really work with people, his 1st 4 years were self serving. And I'm stupid because I dont want 4 more years of Bush. Im sorry but Obama is virtually the same in many aspects. Also the lack of moderation in FR creates or perpetuates a hostile environment.
RobMeHood says "TRICK or TREAT to America or Else ????????????????????????
Don't trust R & R with your Country for your Kids Sake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 47% Rule ***
Caesar Augustus-
Pertinent info like Bengahzi for starters? or how about FR fav; binders.
Little Caesar,
Benghazi is gonna backfire in right wingers and hacks over @ FUX NOOSE faces. It will go in the Big Bird, "binders for of women" folder as just what it is; unpatriotic-stupidity and scary witch hunts.
Every thing right wing idiots have done in order to portray our President as having no record and incompetent has blown up in their faces. Now so will Benghzai. It's a distration and goes against America values. The falmies say stop
FIRED UP
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
Obama/Biden 2012
SeekingSanity-
My friend, take a deep breath.
President Obama has enough electoral votes and will win on November 6th.
He will take Ohio and that will put him with 290 Electoral Votes.
Have some fun this week and next, and laugh-off the people who Karl Rove has already brain-washed.
Life is good.
Salud
WOW!
I know it's Bev and all... but tell me these lunatics don't think of Yomama as the messiah!
Scary! AND Dangerous!
:o)
Hey TommyBigs!
If Pres. Yomama DOES win do you think he will find it in him to get our govement to pass a budget SOME TIME IN THE NEXT 4 YEARS?
I mean lets face it... as the LEADER of our government, don't you think it's HIS responsibility to make sure that Congress passes a budget?
Of course... he has gotten along for the last 3 years without one... and quite frankly... if you have not budget to stick to you can go spend whatever you want (at least that seems to be his attitude.)
:o)
I dont take the ravings of Bev the racist lunatic with any seriousness. she thinks if she types bold and uses hostile tone to intimidate it will some how justify her ramblings. She is just another in the congregation of the Cult of Obama. nothing more than an acolyte and thrall
TO: SickOfTheBickering who wrote:
[FlaNative55 And I noticed that you still haven't described anything that Mittens has been consistent on (except his inconsistencies!) , so instead of continuing blathering on with your Dumb Fux whining points, WHY DON"T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?]
Oh yeah, Mitt's 5-Point Plan, which is the same as Mitt's "Top Down" Plan, and the same as "Trickle Down Economics" and the same as "Voo Doo Economics", which NEVER WORKED.
But you're right, Republicans keep doing the same stupid stuff over, and over, and over again, and convincing Republican followers that this time Republicans are going to get a different result.
Obama/Biden 2012
funny, it seems to be more successful then trickle down economics aka Keynesian economics. Liberals will regret the day the believe everything should be G.I.
trickle down government.
Caesar,
Reagan used stimulus spending to end 1982-1983 recession. Bush used stimulus spending to end 2001 recession. Obama used stimulus to end 2008-2009 recession in 6 months time. Keynesian economics has proven itself over and over again since the Great Depression. Historical economic analysis proves it works every time it is tried. Stimulus spending by government basically seeks to replace part of the consumer spending and investment spending in a down economy to insulate the rest of the economy from the downward spiral of slower growth, lower profits, slower sales, laid off workers, until the cycle repeats itself.
Trickle down economics, on the other hand, has failed miserably in creating job growth or higher wages for Americans. What it has succeeded in doing is increasing the wealth of the rich (top 1% share of national income in 1980 was 10%, now it's 24%). More money in the hands of the few has led to over-investment in the .com boom, the housing market in 2000's, oil futures, and other commodities markets. The reduction in the share of the 99% has led to increased consumer debt and lower sales growth. Trickle down policies have created an imbalance in the marketplace with too much production and sales capacity and too little consumer spending.
Keynesian economics works. Trickle down works only for the rich, but their businesses suffer from lower sales growth, so, it doesn't even work that well for them.
OBAMA 2012....for a fairer, better America
@TNSEVOL
Here is Mitt's only position that he hasn't wavered on, "I'm the white guy. Vote for me!" And all the conservatives dance around the burning cross like it's a May Pole to celebrate Romney's only position that hasn't changed.
German girl & Caesar....right ON!!! You guys rock!!!
NOT OPTIMAL IN DEED!!!.....No smoke & Mirrors!!!
Romney was right and BOZOhuseen was lying ....Again!!!!....REuters report from Washington,,,
The truth is coming out about Libya......more lies from Barry, Over-the-Hill'ry and drunken-Biden.....preplanned Islamic Terrorist attack....nothing to do with the video...The White House had 7 hours to save the UNarmed Embassy people... and let them be murdered!!
Hey BOZOhussen, the USA now has these ships that have planes land and take off from them--they are called aircraft carriers....WHY did you NOT help the embassy people??!!
Even the inept jimmy "the peanut brain" Carter did not allow our Embassy people to be murdered!!!
"Are you OK" ?????????? "Go sleep it off" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, thanks to the likes of border joe Mitt has secured the ignorant hillbilly vote. He'll need it. He's pi$$ed off everybody else in some form or fashion.
No but Ronnie Raygun got a whole bunch of Marines(241) killed. Oh, I forgot, Ronnie doesn't count. He was your God!
http://middleeast.about.com/od/usmideastpolicy/qt/me081022.htm
Funny article. Are you telling me that only MYTH flip-flops? Please do an article on the number of flop Mr. Obama has done, not only during his administration, but throughout his Senate career.
funnygirl do your own research. He's been pretty stable in his views with the exception of that old but famous position shift on gay marriage.
It's nearly a daily occurance with your guy.
funnygirl: Yes...do your own research. Obama did try to close Guantanimo but ran into issues with others.....it is right in the article above. Obama has been MUCH more stable in his decisions.
Keep believing the left-wing media reports libbies. Obama hasn't met one of his campaign issues stated in '08, with the exception of his HealthCare plan that he had to bribe his own party to pass.
The Republicans blocked Gitmo?
The only thing that Obama has been stable on is his negative attack campaign. And the media spreads the false agenda to help elect this guy. Why, I don't know, other than if he loses, they go down with him.
What ever happened to journalism, anyway? Where is the impartial investigation today? Now, it's a liberal media with little value.
When all else fails, blame the media.
In Funny Girl's and German Gem's defense....here are a few of Obama's Flippity Flop Flop Flops!.........Enjoy......more to come!
President Flip Flop: Barack Obama's Broken Promises, Policy Reversals and Continuous Flip Flops
Posted by Allen Ginzburg in Blog, Featured, Politics on April 16, 2012 9:15 am / 22 comments
President Obama's reelection campaign has accused Mitt Romney of being a flip-flopper that changes his positions all the time. In actuality, it is the President himself who has a history of doing just that. Here is an extensive list ofn President Obama's flip-flops, hypocrisies and broken promises:
Running for President
The very first flip-flop that Obama committed since running for President is actually running for the office in 2008. Obama said in 2004 that he would not run for President in the next election. Based on what has happened in the last 3 years, this is one promise that most Americans would likely prefer he had kept.
Taxes & Spending
Adding Debt & Raising the Debt Ceiling
As a Senator, Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, and said adding 4 trillion in was "unpatriotic". As President, he insisted the debt ceiling be raised and has added substantially more than 4 trillion to the debt.
Bush Tax Cuts
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. In 2010, he extended those cuts.
Capital Gains Taxes
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would raise taxes on capital gains and dividends for higher-income taxpayers. He has not done so.
Raising Taxes
In 2008, Obama pledged that, "no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. My opponent can't make that pledge." However, he has raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income).
Senior Income Tax
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year". He has not done so.
PAYGO
Shortlyafter entering office, Obama signed PAYGO legislation which demanded that all expenditures be paid for unless they are part of an emergency. Democrats in Congress started using the loophole to bypass the legislation almost immediately. Obama touted that a previous extension of unemployment benefits was fully paid for, but later blasted Republicans for not continuing to extend those benefits without paying for them.
Spending Freezes
In 2008, Obama derided spending freezes as "using a hatchet where you need a scalpel" and "unfair burden-sharing". He said that, although it's "proposed periodically", a spending freeze "doesn't happen". In 2010, Obama announced support for a three-year federal spending freeze on discretionary spending not related to national security.
Earmarks
In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks "to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994″. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.
Competitive Bidding on Earmarks
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would "ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid". He has not done so.
Tax Credits for Child Care
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would increase the tax credits for child care and dependent care, and make such credits refundable. He has not done so.
Killing NASA Program
"In August 2008, Senator Obama announced, as The Washington Post noted, "a detailed comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA".
But, as The Washington Post reported in March 2010, President Obama later shattered the dreams of the NASA community with a decision "to kill NASA's Constellation program, crafted during the Bush administration with an ambitious goal of putting astronauts back on the moon by 2020."
Foreign Policy
Iraq Timetable
Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and bring the all the troops home in 2009. He later changed his tune to say the withdrawal depends on conditions on the grounds and troops remained in Iraq past 2009.
Iraq Surge
Obama originally opposed the Iraq surge and claimed that extra troops would not do anything to quell sectarian violence. However, after the surge was clearly successful, Obama suggested that everyone knew the surge would decrease violence in Iraq.
Military Action without Congressional Approval
"President Obama has shown a striking lack of consistency with regard to the question of Congressional authorisation and the use of force. In a 2007 interview with The Boston Globe, then Senator Obama declared:
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action."
However, as President in March 2011, Barack Obama authorized military action against the Libyan regime without consulting Congress, a decision which drew heavy fire on Capitol Hill."
Dropping Missile Defenses in Poland to appease Russia
"In his Prague speech in April 2009, President Obama pledged to move forward with the Bush-era plans for Third Site missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic…
Just six months later however, the Obama administration surrendered to Russian demands, and dramatically dropped plans for Third Site."
There has been speculation that Obama's recent Hot-Mic comments to Russia's president about flexibility after the election signal further concessions in this area.
Israel
While giving a speech in front of the Pro-Israel group AIPAC in 2008, Obama proclaimed that Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel. However, a few days later his advisers were clarifying that he no longer believes that and the division of Jerusalem is actually an issue to be addressed in negotiations.
Obama repeated the same strategy in 2012 when he promised to "have Israel's back" on Iran in his 2012 AIPAC speech and backtracked a few days later.
Letting Sudan off the hook for the Darfur genocide
"In 2004, Senator Obama was a prominent supporter of a "humanitarian intervention" to halt state-sponsored mass killing in Darfur, declaring in a speech that 'we cannot, in good conscience, stand by and let the genocide continue.' He advocated tough UN sanctions against the brutal regime of Omar Hassan al-Bashir, which "should freeze the assets of the Sudanese government, its leaders and business affiliates; outlaw arms sales and transfers to Sudan; and prohibit the purchase of Chinese oil."
However, as president, Obama dramatically changed his tune, extending the hand of friendship to Bashir, despite the fact the Sudanese government and its proxy Janjaweed Arab militias had butchered hundreds of thousands of people".
Abandoning Mubarak in Egypt after calling him a "stalwart ally"
"Big picture foreign policy strategy has not been a forté of this administration, as demonstrated by its inconsistent policy on Egypt and the Middle East. In an interview with the BBC's Justin Webb in June 2009, when asked if he viewed President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler, President Obama declared:
No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven't met him; I've spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally, in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region, but he has never resorted to unnecessary demagoguing of the issue and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability and good in the region.
20 months later, the White House emphatically called for Mubarak to go".
Cuba Embargo
Obama opposed the embargo in 2004, but later supported it when speaking in front of a Cuban audience during his run for president. It is still in place today.
Recognizing Armenian Genocide
In 2008, Obama said he would recognize the Armenian Genocide once he is president. He has not done so.
Meeting with Iran Without Preconditions
Obama tried to distance himself from the position that he would meet with Iran without preconditions during the 2008 campaign by claiming there would be "preparations", before returning to his original position.
Iran Threat
Obama has never had a consistent position on Iran, but one particular shift over a two day period in 2008 is the greatest example of Obama's waffling on the issue. On one day Obama suggested that Iran does not "pose a serious threat to us", but the very next day he was describing Iran as a "grave threat".
Designating Revolutionary Guard as a Terrorist Group
In September 2007, Obama voted against the Kyl-Lieberman bill which would designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization. Obama attacked Hillary Clinton for voting for the bill, but later claimed that he supported labeling the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. Obama explained his vote against the bill using a variety of different reasons at different times.
NAFTA
During the 2008 campaign Obama was very critical of NAFTA, but later referred to his own rhetoric as "overheated and amplified."
Meeting with Chavez
While running for office, Obama stated that he would meet with Hugo Chavez and discuss his support for FARC on one day and then said governments supporting FARC should be isolated the next.
Annual "State of the World" Address
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "give an annual State of the World address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy". He has never given any such address.
Promised to Improve America's Image
A key foreign policy theme of the Obama presidential election campaign was the notion that President Bush had damaged America's image on the world stage, with his supposedly 'cowboy' policies. In the words of a campaign document, "Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore America's standing in the world by providing a new American leadership to meet the challenges of a new century".
As President, however, Obama has done exactly the opposite, insulting key allies such as Great Britain, Israel and Poland, projecting weak leadership, and undermining the standing of the United States as the world's only superpower. As I've noted before:
"No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to America's enemies. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring America's "standing" in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washington's closest friends."
Energy
Gas Prices
Obama, along with many other leading Democrats, blamed George W. Bush for high gas prices when he was President. Yet now that prices have reached near record highs under his administration, Obama is claiming that he has no control of those prices. Furthermore, Obama has previously said he supports a gradual shift to higher gas prices, but now laughs off the claim that he is rooting for higher prices to reduce dependency.
Cap and Trade
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would "set a hard cap on all carbon emissions at a level that scientists say is necessary to curb global warming – an 80% reduction by 2050″. No cap and trade legislation has been passed.
Selling Oil from Strategic Reserve
In July 2007, Obama rejected selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which he said should be "reserved for a genuine emergency." A month later, Obama said, "We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks", even though gas prices were higher in July 2007 than in August 2007.
Keystone XL
Obama touted the possibility of a pipeline during his 2008 campaign, but rejected rapid approval of the Keystone XL pipeline this year.
Nuclear Power
Obama told a group of Democratic Governors in June of 2008 that he was open to expanding nuclear power after having previously opposed it.
Immigration & Healthcare
Immigration Reform
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation in his first year. He did not. He has now made the same promise for the first year of his second term.
Health Care Mandate
Obama was against the individual mandate before it became a central part of his signature legislation.
Single Payer Health Care
In 2003, as an Illinois state senator, Obama said, "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program." In 2009, Obama said, "I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter."
Keeping Your Insurance
Leading up to the passage of Obamacare, Obama promised Americans that they would be able to keep their current insurance plan if they like it. Further analysis by the CBO has revealed that Obamacare would cause many seniors to have their Medicare Advantage coverage cut in half and millions to be dropped from their employer-provided insurance.
Cost of Obamacare
Obama promised that he would "not sign [a healthcare bill] if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period." Yet, a new analysis determines that his bill will add quite a bit to future deficits.
Insuring All Americans
Obama outlined three goals for his health care legislation. Lowering the cost curve and insuring all Americans were two of the three. It has now been determined that Obamacare will add to the deficit and 25 million Americans will remain uninsured.
Reconciliation
In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform that was passed via reconciliation, contrary to his 2007 insistence that health care reform should not be passed by a bare "50 plus one majority", and his 2005 rejection of the 'nuclear option' in the Senate.
Televising Healthcare Negotiations
In 2008, Obama said, when it came to crafting health care reform, "we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN." Many crucial negotiations pertaining to health care reform were not televised.
Taxing Health Benefits
In 2008, Obama criticized his presidential opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), saying, "for the first time in American history, he wants to tax your health benefits." In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform legislation that puts a 40% tax on some health insurance policies.
Importing Cheaper Drugs
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, his health care reform would allow Americans to import cheaper prescription drugs. The health care reform he signed into law does not allow this.
Cracking Down on Employers of Illegal Immigrants
Obama opposed cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants before running for President, but supported it during his run.
Defense
Closing Guantanamo
In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as president, he would "close the detention facility at Guantanamo." And, in January 2009, Obama signed an executive order calling for the Guantanamo Bay facility to be closed. It remains open.
Military tribunals for terror suspects
In the 2008 campaign, Obama said that, as president, he would end the use of military commissions with respect to terrorism suspects and detainees. However, they are still in use.
Rendition of Terror Suspects
"In a 2007 Foreign Affairs article, Senator Obama gave a strong indication that he would end the Bush administration practice of rendition of terror suspects:
"To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people… This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law."
But, as The New York Times reported in August 2009, the Obama administration's Interrogation and Transfer Task Force announced that it would retain renditions, but with what The Times referred to as "more oversight.'"
Photos of Detainee Abuse
In April 2009, the Obama administration said it planned to release photos depicting abuse of detainees being held by the U.S. overseas. The administration then reversed its decision, and said it would resist court rulings demanding the release of such photos.
Patriot Act
Obama said he would repeal the Patriot Act in a 2003 questionnaire, but later voted to renew it in the Senate.
FISA
In 2007, Obama pleased liberal advocates by promising to filibuster any bill that gave amnesty to telecommunication companies that were assisting authorities with wiretapping activities. Obama voted for a bill that did just that in July of 2008.
Killing Osama Bin Laden
Obama highlighted the importance of killing Osama Bin Laden while running for president and after OBL was killed in Pakistan, but made the claim that it was no longer "essential" when he first got into office.
Other
Public Financing
Obama promised to seek public financing for his presidential campaign in 2008, but ended up rejecting public financing.
2008 Debates
In May 2008, Obama said he would meet McCain "anywhere, anytime to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world". But he rejected town hall debates proposed by the McCain campaign.
Voting Along Party Lines
In 2010, Obama decried Senate candidate Scott Brown's (R-MA) record of voting with Republicans 96% of the time, saying it showed Brown was not "independent." When he himself was in the Senate, Obama voted with Democrats 96% of the time.
Minimum Wage
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour, up from the current $7.25 an hour. It has not been raised.
Civility
"After the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and several others (six people were killed), Obama said, "at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do — it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we're talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds". Yet Obama has frequently described Republicans as Social Darwinists. He has said that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats "have a sense of neighborliness and a sense of community, and we are willing to look out for one another and help people who are vulnerable and help people who are down on their luck".
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In his book, "The Audacity of Hope", Obama lamented the description of abortion opponents as"right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman's right to choose". Obama said the"standard boilerplate" rhetoric had been written — not by himself — but by someone on his U.S. Senate campaign staff, and he had the "offending words" removed from his website. In recent months, however, Obama has described Republican opponents of abortion as seeking to "turn back the clock", "prevent millions of women from getting basic health care that they desperately need", and "stirring up fights over a woman's right to make her own health care choices".
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Despite advocating civility and civil debate, Obama has appointed Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) to chair the DNC, even though she has frequently resorted to name-calling (e.g., here, here,here, here, and here). Rather than chastising her for her incivility, Obama has praised her.
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After James "Jimmy" Hoffa, Jr., launched this invective at the Tea Party – "President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong" – during an event at which Obama was about to speak, the Obama administration refused to denounce Hoffa's offensive (and violent) rhetoric, saying they would not act as the "speech police". Days later, Obama's presidential campaign launched AttackWatch.com, a website dedicated to policing the speech of Republicans and denouncing them when they say unfair things about Obama."
Questioning Patriotism
"In 2008, Obama said, "I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine. [...] Patriotism can never be defined as loyalty to any particular leader, or government, or policy." However, in that same year, he called the Bush administration's decision to raise the debt ceiling "unpatriotic". [Obama] has accused Republicans of putting party before country, and he has stood idly by as others in his party — e.g., Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA) — have said Republicans are "not patriotic.'"
Presidential Commissions
In 2008, Obama derided presidential commissions as "Washington-speak" for "we'll get back to you later." In 2010, he appointed the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform to look for solutions to the debt crisis. The commission did not have the votes to submit their plan to Congress, and Obama has not championed their proposals.
Furthermore, in 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would create a national commission to look at whether programs such as Social Security Disability Insurance, Supplementary Security Income, Medicare and Medicaid create an incentive for people to not work. He has yet to do so.
Public Posting of Bills Before Passage
In 2008, Obama's campaign said that, as president, he would "not sign any nonemergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House Web site for five days". He has since signed non-emergency bills without the five-day public review period.
White House Fleet
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would convert the White House fleet of cars to plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles. He has not done so.
Gay Marriage
Obama's position on this issue is constantly changing. President Obama openly opposed gay marriage during the 2008 election. Obama also supported states deciding the issue at that point. However, later on Obama opposed California's ban on gay marriage and has said his views on the issue are "evolving."
Super PACs
Obama opposed use and coordination of Super PAC's following the Citizens United decisions, but recently changed course and signaled approval of Super PAC's that are supporting his re-election effort.
D.C. Handgun Ban
Obama supported the D.C. hand gun ban before agreeing with the Supreme Court decision that it "went beyond constitutional limits."
School Voucher Program
Barack Obama suggested he would support a D.C. voucher program before opposing it and eventually cutting funding to it.
Decriminalizing Marijuana
Obama told students in 2004 he supported decriminalizing marijuana usage, but opposed it during his run for president. He has yet to take significant steps to decriminalize marijuana as President.
Union Support
"In January [2008], the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as 'special interest' money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. Since gaining his own union support, Obama refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of 'working people' and says he is 'thrilled' by their support."
Abortion
Obama disagreed with the Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on partial birth abortion and had a 100% NARAL rating in 2006, 2007 and 2008, but while being interviewed by a Christian magazine Obama said that "mental distress" should not count as a "health of the mother" exception to a ban.
Wearing a U.S. Flag Pin
Obama refused to wear a flag pin during the 2008 primaries because he considered them a substitute for "true patriotism", but he started wearing it again once the primaries were over.
Welfare Reform
Obama called Bill Clinton's 1996 Welfare Reform legislation "disturbing" at the time it was passed, but he celebrated the reforms and what they resulted in once running for president.
Jeremiah Wright
When videos of the controversial remarks of Obama's long time pastor and mentor, Reverand Jeremiah Wright, first appeared, the President said he can no more disown Wright than his white grandmother. Once it became even clearer that Wright was an extreme individual, Obama did disown and disassociate himself from Wright.
Accepting Donations from Lobbyists
Obama had a campaign pledge to not accept political contributions from lobbyists, yet Obama accepted money from registered airline lobbyist Ron Klein.
No Lobbyists
President Obama promised and made a campaign issue of not have a revolving door of lobbyists joining and leaving his administration, but has consistently violated this pledge by providing waivers to circumvent this promise.
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PolitiFact has a few more broken promises here.
All of the statements above have been fact-checked, but I need to give credit to several sites for being the source of many of the points on this list: Audacity of Hypocrisy, Telegraph, Director Blue, Yahoo Voices
It is a false equivalency to compare broken or unkept promises to completely reversing your position on almost every major issue.
WOW ElectionDayCometh....
QUITE A LONG LIST!
But ask any liberal lunatic and they will tell you that Pres. Yomama has been very consistent in his views.
HA!
'Lunatics is da funniest peoplez!'
:o)
ElectionDayCometh
Do you have anymore yesteryear spam?
Try doing a little fact checking. Not that it'll matter since you people know the truth but prefer to base your lies on the color of the skin of the Black man in the White House. What else could it be but ingrained institutional racism?
4 more 4 the "Second Coming" of 44
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funny girl?
Which flip flops has Obama made? Can you back up Your statements...or are you just shooting off you "funny" mouth. ? Facts please...if you can. Real facts, not Teabaggers rants.
The Pukes wish Osama Bin Laden was still alive, but alas, he is not!
I can't believe this idiot Jim Talent actually said that Obama is the one changing to be more like Romney, is the man blind, deaf. What does he think the citizens of this great country don't know the truth. He just makes himself look bad when he saids things like that, that are so obviously not true. I'm still in shock over his comments. Conservatives know this, they're not oblivious to Romney's contradictions. They just won't admit it.
@ElectionDayCometh
Well, I see the copy and paste, who cares if it's a lie troll is at it again. Good God, have you no shame? Almost everything you pasted is either a lie or a complete distortion of the facts. You and the truth, not real close are you troll.
I love it, long, boring and filled with lies. As opposed to your tenure on the vine which is short, unmemorable and uninspired. Kind of like your candidate.
Prove it.................
Sure NBC....this is a credible story....just as the focus that obama new within 2 hours that the Benghazi attack was instigated by terrorists was getting strong...you print this crap!
We see through it all now. obama you are a liar!
Sorry...typo. "just as obama KNEW"
Obama Fail
However, you are consistently comfortable with the 'obama' typo.
Clearly Republicans have taken the lead of their liar-in-chief Romney and now spout outright lies. The CIA has recently backed what the president said happened after the attack - nothing was done wrong... except for Republicans shameless attempt to exploit another terrorist attack like Bush did with 9/11.
It is disgusting that Republicans would stoop so low for their agenda to enrich billionaires. NO MORALS in the Teabag party.
I am growing increasingly tired of Republicans politicizing an attack where Americans died.
Witnesses to the events in Libya attest to the prescence of protestors chanting anti-American slogans involving the video. It is now obvious that some sort of terrorist organization used the confusion to launch an orchestrated attack.
Emails from a terrorist organization taking credit for the attack are not "evidence" of their involvement, and nothing the President or his administration said was deceptive or inaccurate.
I refuse to show any respect to obama...so...obama...unfortunately is NOT a typo in any way, shape, or form.
TNSEVOL ...
As am I. Talk about going as low as you can. They are certainly emulating their candidate.
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I don't fault the president for the attack nor am I politicizing it. What I want to know is WHY LIE?? I care about the blatant lying to our public.
Does that mean you will not vote for Romney, the Liar-in-Chief?
Or is your "caring about lying" rant just another hypocritical attempt to score political points?
When the lies are, I will reduce our debt to below 10 trillion...and he bloats it even higher...that is a lie I can not live with.
You are right though TNSEVOL...not one of these guys/girls are truthful to any major extent.
TNSEVOL - Obama Fail calls people out for their posts - if they aren't on the far right - then is disrespectful to President Obama but laps up the constant lies and distortions of Romney. Clearly a good little Republican who can't think but posts the FOX lies constantly! Yep, he'll be a good little boy and vote Romney - because he either doesn't know better or doesn't care!
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Seeking...I am right here. You can feel free to direct your posts at me and not make your point vicariously through TNSEVOL FYI..I do watch Fox sometimes...just as I do local and other nationally syndicated shows. I make my decision based on what I see as a combination. Dismiss me as a rabid righwinger if you will. It LITERALLY makes no difference to me.
I know what we were promised 4 years ago. I know the (sad) state of country today. I want to change that.
Obama Fail - you're two faced and a disgrace. You are no better than anyone on here who calls anyone else names - you just pretend to be. OUr President is a man who deserves respect - even from a lowlife like you. You have no morals and will support a man who has no conscience and who has signed a loyalty oath to Grover Norquist.
In other words - you're the typical hypocrite Republican who wants to appear above the fray but who gets in the gutter every time you post. You won't accept that the sad state of affairs today can be placed squarely at the feet of the Republicans in Congress who swore to make President Obama a one term President and to hell with the country.
You are no better and you'll go on supporting these traitors and swearing you truly love the country. HYPOCRITE!
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Seeking.... we disagree obviously. I will not berate you though. Sorry man. I have had plenty of good conversations here with other that were mature enough not to resort to the sort of liberal compassionate ideals you have displayed in your last hate filled post.
SeekingSanity
I couldn't have said it better myself. Let's not forget the Koch Brothers who dictate to FOX the daily agenda and that we have the finest Majority in the House of Reps that money can buy.
Where is it written that just because some extremist outfit sends and email claiming responsibility for and insane act against our Embassy, we have to take it as fact - or report it to the media so they can get their 15 minutes of fame?
As far as liars are concerned, Mitt's nose is much longer than POTUS - MILES longer !!!
Obama Fair - I am a woman - one more reason I support a President who knows I'm capable of making my own decisions rgarding my body and my health. You know, one who doesn't believe a child conceived by rape is "an act of God." And, one who doesn't believe my body will automatically keep me from getting pregnant if I get raped - slightly contradictory there don't you think?
You talk about mature conversations but defend German Gem who NEVER has a matrue conversation. Again, you're nothing but a lowlife HYPOCRITE!
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A clear violation of the Newsvine CoH... WILL ANYONE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
http://www.newsvine.com/_nv/cms/info/codeOfHonor
Newsvine Code of Honor
I think that as a woman, you should be able to make those decisions. I have NEVER said otherwise. I know that Romney/Ryan also believe that abortions are acceptable in cases of incest, rape, and health of the mother.
I hope you never encounter such a disgusting act of disrespect towards a woman either. Rape or child molestation are probably the two most vile acts I can fathom. I defended GermanGem as whole. When have I EVER called you derogatory name? I merely urged you not to join the ranks of those that do.
Yet, you still concluded your statement by judging me!
I will not press charges on her though. Nothing like an animated and spirited difference of opinion!
OF is concerned about the blatant lie that Obama made to the American public. I'm not sure if Obama lied or not and neither are you. Everything that you blather is pure speculation.
As of this afternoon one of the murderers are now in custody. President Obama said he would bring these killers to justice, that is one promise that I know he will keep, refer back to his promise to kill Osama Bin Laden.
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Maybe after the election, Mitt can get a gig on Sesame Street
Introducing...Multiple Mitt.
Frank, do they do muliplication on Sesame Street? I was thinking more of a School House Rock Video on what a failed campaign looks like . . .
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More than likely a used car salesman
Ro-mentum!
October 23rd, 2012, 3:30pm by Sam Wang
For new readers (of which there are many!), I make a brief introduction to our highest-value product.
The Princeton Election Consortium’s main contribution is to give you a high-quality “thermometer” of exactly where the Presidential race is, based on state polls – and therefore the Electoral College, which is how the Presidency is determined. We do not use econometric indicators or national polls because these are only indirect measures (“What political science models really tell us,” August 28).
The track record of our state-polls-only approach in past years is quite good. In 2004, on Election Eve, the median was Bush 286 EV, Kerry 252 EV – the exact outcome. In 2008, we predicted Obama 364 EV, McCain 174 EV – just 1 EV off from the final outcome of Obama 365 EV. (For true nerds: in the latter case, the error was effectively 0.1 sigma, which suggests that we might be overestimating the 95% confidence interval.)
In addition to this, our time resolution is excellent. Other aggregators (Pollster, FiveThirtyEight) use methods that typically must be integrated over at least a week to reveal conditions. In contrast, we give a highly precise statistical snapshot of the race based on polls only.
This means we can test the recent assertion that the Romney campaign has the momentum. In 2004, Joe Lieberman’s Presidential campaign claimed to have “Joementum” to indicate they were going places. Where they went was a “three-way tie for third place.”
So…does the Meta-Analysis show real momentum? Or “Ro-mentum”? (update:bonus InTrade takedown at the end!)
Here’s a history of the Electoral Vote estimator. It achieves high resolution because we use poll margins in all states to calculate a win probability – and then we evaluate all 2.3 quadrillion possible outcomes, using a math trick to do it quickly. All the swings of the race are made visible. This year, the largest effects came after the Ryan VP nomination, the Democratic convention, and the first debate.
What is apparent is that the large plunge after Debate #1 came to a stop last week, right around the time of the VP debate. After that and Debate #2, Obama made some recovery. Now we are at a plateau, in which Obama is slightly – but decisively – ahead.
How far ahead? That can be answered using the Popular Vote Meta-Margin:
The Meta-Margin shows how much the race would have to swing to create an electoral near-tie. It is precise to within 0.5% or less.
Today, the race is quite close. However, note this. In terms of the Electoral College, President Obama has been ahead on every single day of the campaign, without exception.
I would then give the following verdict: Indeed the race is close, but it seems stable. For the last week, there is no evidence that conditions have been moving toward Romney. There is always the chance that I may have to eat my words – but that will require movement that is not yet apparent in polls.
The popular vote is a different story. I estimate an approximately 25% chance that the popular vote and the electoral vote will go in opposite directions – a “Bush v. Gore scenario”. I regard this as a serious risk, since it would engender prolonged bitterness.
A most interesting site ... thanks
election.princeton.edu/
Bottom line: this motherf*cker is a political whore who will say anything to win this election. He has ZERO core convictions. Sad that 50% of the country finds this appealing...
what a classy post!!!
Yeah...when you got nothing....you have to go vile......Sad isn't it?
I suppose. I would be emarrassed
Chris may have been a bit profane but he's absolutely correct. Mitt has proven time and again he will say ANYTHING to garner votes. He want's to be President too much like it's a trophy or something. If he's elected it will be a sad day for America. The right will get what it wants if he's elected but be careful what you wish for.
chris,
I am agree your intention, but we not right wingers we don't attack our clueless opponents in that manner only right wingers do. When I say right wingers, I refer to fake conservatives out there. Because real republicans gone with eisenhower or reagans era. Today are very few in between, there some but minority of you real conservatives
Paul, what do you think obama granting amnesty to 800,000 illegals was then? I think that leveraging the economy for votes is pathetic as well.
PLEASE do not try to do any upbraiding about profane or classess posts. We could go on for days about the vitriol and ugliness that's come from the right (starting with 75% of the RW posters on this blog). But yeah, I was crude, and it was on purpose: I'm tired of this nonsense that Romney stands for anything other than making a buck. He has changed his positions on literally everything...and not over a long period of time, which might be reasonable. For example, as the article points out, as recently as JULY he had a diametrically opposed view on Afghanistan... He was a joke in the 3rd debate, agreeing with Obama on damn near everything, when he sang a different song days earlier on the trail. And he might as welll be a different person from the person who competed in the Republican primaries. He's a paper cutout of a man, who is running for President not because of his convictions, but because he belives it's some birthright. He's literally been running for president since his second year as governor of Massachusetts, and he's been all over the map in terms of his positions. In my book that makes him exactly what I originally called him: a whore who will say whatever to whomever in order to win this election. I dont give a damn ff you think that's classless or not.
Obama Fail - so you had problems when Reagan gave amnesty to over 2 million, correct?
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I was quite young then....but yes I would. I don't think his intention was to give 2 million full amnesty though. I would like to research that for better knowledge before jumping in. Inherently, I would vehemently disagree with it though. Your point?
My point is you're a typical Republican - you only care if it's the Democrats doing something. You'll stick with your boys at all costs. President Obama did the right thing. The people he gave amnesty to were either born here or brought over when they were so young they don't know any other country. To them, this is all they know.
But you would send them to a country they have never set foot in. Oh yeah! That's logical!
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But your point was just invalidated to its core and without interpretation. I said I would have had a REAL PROBLEM with Reagan granting amnesty as he did. I have a newsflash for you. I will be equally harsh and unrelenting on my critique of Romney as I was with obama. I am for America. Not for a party and certainly NOT for a candidate.
Romney reports to Grover Norquist and would as a President. You are NOT for the Country if you support him and his cronies who have pledged an oath to Norquist!
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I don't think it is your place to question my patriotism man.
Obama fail
I would be very interested in how you can come to any justification for Anyone signing the Glover pledge?
I really don't get it. I was a 35 year GOP supporter. I am a Mormon woman and will never understand how anyone can choose Politics over human needs.
I know Mitt. I know where his Lies come from. The ends Do Not always justify the means. He would/has sold his soul to the Teaparty, just to get what he wants. But be Very wary of what you will get. His desire to be liked will come back to bite us all. The wealthy And the Church will dictate how he would run the government. Be for warned. I have seen it happen in Utah
Praysalot....I think that by broadening the tax base, the decision between politics and human needs would not have to be made. A vibrant and healthy middle class with a strong private sector is all the that will be needed.
I believe what you feel about Mitt. I happen to believe otherwise. I think that obama has over leveraged the general public for politics as well. So we have similar viewpoints, just on different sides of the fence.
I heed your cautionary warning though. It should not fall on deaf ears. But, what are your thoughts about our cumbersome and crushing debt that we have let get out of control. It is exorbitantly high and is NOT going down???
Rest assured these thoughts are just rhetorical by Mitt Romney.Romneys own words above They are killing "our sons and daughters" certainly not his.
exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH couldn't wear COWBOY BOOTS, he has to wear ENGINEER BOOTS! The $hit's on the "OUTSIDE" of cowboy boots!!!
A complete & total waste to society & the 99% American People and even some of his own party are voting against him! Now if that doesn't tell you something, what the hell would tell you something? Mr. OUT OF TOUCH, Mr. Flip/Flop, LIAR and a man of DECEPTION all in one package!!
Dems...this is your buddy...from your voter bloc...
I have had much dealings with Mormons, but if Mitt is a representative of that faith I will run in the opposite direction if I find out that I am dealing with one. Mitt is a disgraceful liar. The only other politician who was in Mitt's lying league was Richard Nixon.
Donald Trump is offering $5 million for President Obama's college records and passport application. I am offering $1.00 for ten more years of Mitt Romneys tax return. (My way of putting in my ten cents.) He can also add in the corporate documents he is hiding from his years at Bain, and the records he destroyed for the Salt Lake City Olympics, also the computer hard drives from his years as Govenor, that he instructed his staff to buy and take with them.
*yawn*
Another desperate attempt by NBC to prop up this failure of a president as they see his re-election slipping away before their eyes.
Obama is NOT a failure and in fact is a president of great historical significance and great success. I hope you are embarrassed when you show your grandchildren the hateful attacks and lies you posted all over the Internet about this great leader. You will be shamed and for good reason.
All of you who say that Pres. Obama lies, can't just stop there since it is so clearly visible that Romney is the liar. When he saids one thing and changes it the next day, just incredible. And this is just not on one issue, on many, many issues. One has to ask themselves, who is Romney or what does he stand for, what it looks like to me is that he stands for whatever will get him elected. Romney is making a mockery of democracy. People should have the facts so they can vote for the issue according to what one believes.
flip flopping away...the french missionary war hero has no core principles except election...
Rick...let's discuss principles. I am glad that you brought that up. Hmmm..on the grounds of moral turpitude, even the most liberal of rags are confirming the cover up in Libya today. Why would we trust obama. Keep in mind this does not include the many many other lies and broken promises he has made.
That's too funny! Coming from a rabid supporter of the biggest liar on the planet!
You have no credibility and lost it many, many, lies ago.
Mitt says that he is a great leader. He also says that Obama is not a great leader.
On foreign policy: Mitt tells the country, follow me as I follow Obama.
On domestic policy Mitt says: I have a plan. Trust me! Follow me!
Mitt is shipping jobs to China in his private business while he blames the president for not being strong enough on China.
Some journalists ought to be interviewing some leaders (or retired pols if active ones too intimidated) of our major allies, see what their thoughts on a President Etchasketch are. Also investigate trends of Romney favoring other countries due to his businesses and deals with them, oh and offshore banking with them. This guy may be shiftier than Ross Perot was which was his biggest flaw for getting trust, and probably lest patriotic.
We are assuming hypothetical that Mitt would do some shifting if he were president. Look at present OdumbOlienis how many lies and broken promises has he broken. He said in 3 yrs years we would have 5.7% unemployment if they would pass his stimulius ready shovel bill not true, reduce deficit by half has increase it by almost 6 trillion, but said bush was unpatriotic when he increased it by 4 billion i wonder what makes him? Gas prices all time high stop the oil drilling off shore / stop keystone pipeline and the killing of an ambassador and three american that he called it a bump in the road and the list goes on and on and on. How could anybody with a functioning mind could consider reelecting this dufus.
Marco
Yea AND he thought wrongly that he would be dealing with a Congress who had the American people's
best interest at heart. The Teaparty/GOPcowards are NOT the way...none of them.
A vote for Mitt is a vote for the wealthy & that includes his church.
Not only has he flipped on every issue, including reversing his stance on Afghanistan between the 2nd and last debate lol, but he also said Syria was Iran's path to water and shipping...lol only problem is, Iran has 2 bodies of water touching its land! Now, this wouldnt be such a big deal, if he himself hadnt said Iran is a threat to us..lol i think you fail the foreign policy test when you call a country a threat, and havent the first freakin clue about its geography! lmao oh mittens, you are WORSE than G Bush Jr.
Seeking...why do you insist on making every point with some hate filled comment...
You group ALL republicans together....to me, that just shows how closed minded you are and how unwilling you are to have a conversation without taking shots at the other side...some of my best friends are democrats and I by no means place them in a group and say all democrats are stupid idiots without a brain....I'm able to carry on a civil conversation about politics with them without stooping to the level of a teenager. Every single one of your comments is filled with hate and anger. Its really sad.
Oh, and you spelled Republican wrong..."common sense"???????
"You ARE a typical Repubican - not even a little bit of common sense!"
E.Deboo - Let's see German Gem wrote "only terrorists and idiots will be voting for Obama." You have NO problem with that, huh? Can we say HYPOCRITE????
If I spelled Republican wrong it was because I'm typing and working. Common sense - show me some spine and then I'll pay attention to you. But, when all you do it call out liberals and let the Republicans slide, you're just a hypocrite!
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Seeking....You are both in the wrong....!!
Sorry, I should have pointed that out...
2 wrongs don't make a right...
But even when your are not being called out, you tend to group all Republicans together and I think that is just close minded of you. All Republicans are NOT RWNJ as you and Feisty like to say all the time....just as All democrats are NOT on Government assistance or idiots...
Personally, I am a very moderate Republican. I believe in a women's choice, I believe assault rifles should be banned, gays should be allowed to marry,...however, on the economy, I tend to lean towards more on the right side of the isle....and right now, as is look to the future, this is a the top of my list, so I'm voting based on who I think will get us back on track quicker. President Obama has simply spent way too much and add 6 trillion to our already high dept of 10 trillion...and did it all quicker than all previous presidents combined...that is truly worrisome.
I would just like to see the attacks and name calling from BOTH sides to stop.
Just because some calls you a name, don't stoop to their level, be the bigger person.
E. Deboo - yet you'll vote for someone who's economic policy all groups have said is not factual. He has no policy and no agenda. He can't stay on the same side of a topic from day to day but you'll support him. Mitt has no way of getting the country back to prosperity faster than Obama.
And, every President who was a businessman has been a horrid failure.
What is worrisome to me is the people who will vote for a man who has already declared his loyalty to Grover Norquist - not our country. THAT should bother you more than anything.
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Seeking....both candidates are not perfect...how about Obama and his connections to George Soros. I guess I'm voting for the lessor of 2 evils...I dont like either one of them particularly...but I feel Romney will do a better job getting the economy back on track. Obama has had 4 years and his policies don't work. More debt is not the answer. Clearly we are not going to change each others position on who we will vote for this Nov.
But at least we are in American where you and I are allowed to have our own opinions, and can voice them in a public setting.
All the best.
For all the blathering about the "liberal bias" of the main stream media, it seems that articles like this illustrate that the press gives Romney a pass by not calling out his daily "evolution" on key matters of policy and vision in real time. No wonder the campaign has no fear of fact-checking. Its also why Romney rarely talks to the press directly in sit-down interviews. His campaign is afraid that a TV reporter/personality will grow a spine and ask him to explain his different positions on the same issues, sometimes within a 24-hour period.
What does it say about a candidate when he's afraid of the press, or think that he owes no explanations to the public?
The press has been giving Obama a pass for 4 years.
German Gem -
By "Press" do you mean the highest circulation newspaper, The Wall Street Journal?
...or the highest-rated cable news channel, Fox News?
...or perhaps the highest-rated talk radio shows, Limbaugh-Hannity-Savage, et all?
...or the many conservative-leaning newspapers throughout the country?
"Liberal Media bias" is a myth used by Republicans to ignore facts and discount fact-checkers.
IF Feisty "works" for MSNBC, GermanGem definitely works for FOX.
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Layton - GermanGem doesn't work. She goes through the stock photos all day to get her avitar and stays home collecting welfare!
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Seeking Sanity...and, all you do is sit on these boards all day spreading your vial "swill" and promoting the failed LIB TARD agenda....the momentum has shifted dear.
The press has been giving Obama a pass for 4 years.
GermanGem -
Dontcha just hate the free press that we have in this nation. Not like the good ole days back in the Fatherland.....
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Romney stands for;
Women working for less pay
Women having vaginal probes at customs checkpoints to make sure they do not have an abortion when they leave the country
Forcing "legitimate raped" women who were "blessed" by impregnation to carry the fetus to term, I mean Jesus, Joseph, and doggie style Mary, how could you not support this?
I always assume that changing one mind is a sign of leadership if its the right course. Clinton did it with the repub house and look what happen a balance budget , surplus and less people in welfare/food stamp. Not the OdumbO way or the highway attitute.
Nobody knows who Romney is, and at this point I doubt that he knows himself.
At a time when our current President is revealed to be the biggest liar in the White House since Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton, you bother with "inconsistencies" from a challenger, many of which are accounted for by the fact that the world and circumstances change in four years. This is outright neglect of the civic duty of responsible journalism - examine the nation's rulers and their policy direction and deception, instead of trying to demonize anyone who is not in lock-step with Obama and his Chicago brown shirts.
Ray-of-Light facts please...
Or have any to share?
That's nice, but, see, the thing is that we are talking about changes in foreign policy stance that have happened in THE LAST FOUR WEEKS!!!
Seriously, have you ever seen a candidate abandon his own positions this quickly and completely?
Hey Ray the world may have changed in 4 years but it hasn't changed every 4 weeks.
Romney has twisted himself into a pretzel changing his positions on so many issues.
It’s particularly striking that Romney -- who is 65 years old and wants to assume the role of “leader of the free world” – would at this late stage be shifting his worldview.
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Look the guy is like the weather in Cleveland;
If you don't like his position, just a wait a few minutes and it will change...
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I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney#Abortion
As Teddy said;
Kennedy responded, "I am pro-choice, my opponent is multiple choice."
There is no "there" there with this guy. He changes position with the shift in the wind. Does he think that no one notices his inconsistencies?????
i think it was smart to wait to release his agenda----keeps mitt for saying he agrees 100% because they were his ideas first
Seriously, we can hire 10 or more people just to keep track of all of Romney's flip-flops over the years- over the past few months- even in the past few days. I honestly don't know why so many people are voting for someone who has no conviction like Romney. Obama 2012
Romney does not have any principled position on Syria, Iran, China, Trade, Tax Cuts, Deficits, Reproductive Rights or Jobs; Romney has a Roulette Wheel, which he spins when he thinks he needs a new narrative, a new talking point, some other position than the one he had yesterday. Just what you need when the stakes are so high, and the world so uncertain, a guy making decisions with a Ouija board.
First Read is very cute though, to attempt to put a serious spin on a candidate who clearly is not serious about the role of Commander in Chief, or a Reliable Person In Charge.
bcinaz - Romney has no principles - period. He does what Grover Norquist tells him and will destroy the country if he wins.
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If your looking for change then Romney is your man.
Change to what Bush W 2.2. No thanks, we had eight years of that crap.
So you rather have 4 more years of the same carter/obama crap?
I agree. Romney's positions change almost daily.
Nothing about Romney adds up, in fact Romney is the most prolific fip-flop-flipper & then flip again to EVER run for President of the United States. Romney is no longer truthful, we simply can not depend on what he says to be factual.
He has Flipped on Health Care, He Has Flipped on Medicare, He has Flipped on Taxes. He has Flipped on Pro-Choice, He has Flipped on Foreign Policy and he keeps on Flipping anytime he believes he can make political points by Flipping.
Even though at least half a dozen fact-checkers and websites have refuted Romney's claim that President Obama is removing or reducing the work requirement for welfare recipients, the Romney campaign continue to repeat this lie over and over. You and not trust Romney, he changes like the wind. See:
politifact.com "Romney Claims Obama Ending Welfare Work"
OT OPTIMAL IN DEED!!!
Romney was right and BOZOhuseen was lying ....Again!!!!....REuters report from Washington,,,
The truth is coming out about Libya......more lies from Barry, Over-the-Hill'ry and drunken-Biden.....preplanned Islamic Terrorist attack....nothing to do with the video...The White House had 7 hours to save the UNarmed Embassy people... and let them be murdered!!
Hey BOZOhussen, the USA now has these ships that have planes land and take off from them--they are called aircraft carriers....WHY did you NOT help the embassy people??!!
Even the inept jimmy "the peanut brain" Carter did not allow our Embassy people to be murdered!!!
I do NOT want that kind of change, and neither do you.