Ohio tops all states in ad spending

Ohio has now overtaken Florida as the state that has seen the most money spent on it this presidential election, according to an NBC analysis of data provided by ad-buying firm SMG Delta.

A whopping $177 million has been poured into the Buckeye State in an effort to woo swing voters from Toledo and Dayton to Columbus and Cincinnati. 

Both sides are sprinting to the end of the presidential race with polls still showing a dead heat between the two candidates. On Tuesday, President Obama campaigned in the swing state of Florida while Romney stumped in Las Vegas. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.

Ohio and its mid-sized markets are leaving Florida and its big media markets behind at $174 million. 

Is there any question where the campaigns and outside groups think this election is coming down to?

The position switch happened with ad buys last night and into today. Both sides have really stepped on the gas. This week, spending is at $75 million - SO FAR -- the most by far of any week, and it’s not even close. Last week was No. 2 at $60 million.

Here are the top ad-spending states overall:
1. OH: $177 million
2. FL: $174 million
3. VA: $136 million
4. CO: $76 million
5. NC: $69 million
6. IA: $68 million
7. NV: $53 million
8. WI: $36 million (campaigns didn't come on until week of Sept. 10 and has now passed NH)
9. NH: $33 million 
10. PA: $19 million (hasn't seen real buys since August. Obama camp is on air with small radio buys)
11. MI: $15 million
12. MN: $6 million (some of which is intended for WI markets)

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All O has is money, no ideas.

His silly little booklet/plan was panned immediately by CNN.

He really needs to get him a horse, stick a bayonet in its head, and ride off on his shiny new unicorn.

Poor O, them poles are looking terrible.

  • 16 votes
#1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

GOP will try to spin that Romney is doing better in Ohio, where President Obama saved and created thousands of Auto and related jobs.

Romney screwed up when he decided to "Let the Auto Industry Go Bankrupt". He wrote it as an Op-Ed in the New York Times, for crying out loud.

The Romney campaign will try more whoppers and more Hypno-Romnesia, but it is too late. We are on top of the word with US Auto, and no thanks to Mitt Bain Vulture Romney.

The Romney family own voting machines in Ohio, so we are watching for any funny stuff, along with GOP spin about Romney in that state.

  • 21 votes
#1.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

SO that's still a NO on the why O is so underwater with white voters, eh Dominico?

Well, given the current polling, how about on on how the gender gap is closing fast?

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

In Ohio over the last 2 weeks there have been 7 polls of which Romney leads in ZERO

  • 17 votes
#1.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

YO Backhouse - any chance you could elaborate on "We are on top of the world with US Auto?"

1. what is US AUTO? Toyota, BMW, CHrysler?

2. What is GM's stock price;

3. WHat does it need to be for us to break even?

4. How is Ford doing on a per share basis?

5. What percentage of cars and parts made in the US come from GM?

6. Who sell more cars made in the US, in the US?

Take you time dear, I'll wait.

  • 14 votes
#1.4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

And Dennis - care to educate us on the trajectory of those polls?

Have they been static?

What where those polls on 9/1? 9/30? today?

And for fun Dennis, since you are an expert poll reader - predict what they will be on Friday.

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

In Ohio from 9/2 thru 9/9 Obama was up by an average of 2.0%.

10/4 thru 10/8 Obama was up by an average of 1.3%.

Over the last 2 weeks he is up by 1.9%

  • 13 votes
#1.6 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

Petunia,

Know any walking encyclopedias?

Do your own **** research.

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

I have a lot of concern about Romney & son buying up voting machines in Ohio and other states. Why would they want them? Backhouse, if we should find "funny stuff" happening on election day, what could we do about it? There has been "funny stuff" around the voting machines before, and nothing has ever been done about it. Especially if it helps the Republicans.

  • 10 votes
#1.8 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

Aw see that Backhouse - Dennis was kind to oblige me.

Sad to see you got to go straight to the name calling.

But truth be told, I kinda like Petunia.

So what else you got?

Dennis - THe polls I have seen are very different and have shown a large lead narrowing over time.

Just a guess, but I suspect Ohio will be a straight up tie by Friday.

And you have my condolences for all the stupid ads you must endure.

  • 11 votes
#1.9 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

H-light,

By their various actions - such as not showing tax returns & buying up voting machines when running for presidential office - we know without any doubts, the Romneys are corrupt & unethical.

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

No wonder America votes for something every two weeks, it boosts the local economy.

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:29 PM EDT

So libbies who was the biggest non-participant loser last night?

1. Jimmy Carter - it was a veritable Israel love feast out there; or

2. Al Gore - global warming was not mention. And golly, here I was thinking it was the biggest threat to our security.

So, what you all think.

Not exactly the two most favorite libbie things to talk about, but golly, how far O has come since '08.

You know I recall another guy who was all about supporting Israel and thought Global Warming was silliness.

BBUUUSSSSSSHHHH!!!!

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

So, Dennis- how are you at math? I'm pretty good, actually, but am pressed for time- I'm giving the dinner before the Headdress Ball, a huge AIDS fundraiser down here. So, here is my quandary-

Three years ago, when we first gave this party, 36% of our guests drank white wine, 32% drank red, and the rest drank sparkling water.

Last year, 38% of our guests drank white wine, 30% drank red, and the rest drank sparkling water.

However, at the dinner given by friends over the weekend, my husband and I noticed that the red wine drinkers seemed to be back to 32%, the white wine drinkers had dropped back to 36%, and eight percent of the sparkling water drinkers were, in fact, drinking red wine.

So, help me out, Dennis- should I buy more red wine? More white? More sparkling water?

  • 9 votes
#1.13 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

Spanky-

Just a guess, but I suspect Ohio will be a straight up tie by Friday.

Nov. 9? Just in time for me to surface from the fog of quad-bypass morphine ... yay!

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

Nov. 9? Just in time for me to surface from the fog of quad-bypass morphine ... yay!

im not sure Calander you're looking at but next Friday would be Nov 2nd and the 26th of October this Friday. not enough oxygen up there Ikarus but think of it this way, its fun to look down on all the little people

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

hey, Mitt...money can't buy election...or happiness.

.

but Ohioan PR and TV corporations do thank you for the money to stimulate their economy...

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

Many, many posts here on this article Spanky.

Why?

Is Ohio and the rest of the toss up states getting you more than just a little nervous?

LOL

Not looking good for the bad news bears that is the TeaParty and the GOP.

No matter how bad the TeaPublicans try to make matters for the average U.S. citizen, their plan is blowing up in their face. They had hoped that the attention span and our memory would have faltered at this point and that they could pin all of the problems they created on Obama and democrats. That has turned out to be just another massive failure on their part. We do remember what they have done (or in most cases failed to do) in their attempt to unseat the president and we will show them how much we dislike their treasonous actions at the polls.

  • 15 votes
#1.17 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

Caesar Augustus-

Zeus, get a sense of humor ... I am riffing ... your namesake had a sense of irony, why don't you?

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

Hey Ikarus I have a great sense of humor you're just not funny. sorry man. besides I went through this my fav God in the Pantheon is Bacchus

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

Caesar Augustus-

Parker, humor is the ability to laugh at one's own weaknesses ... do tell, what are yours? A proxy is not the answer.

  • 6 votes
#1.20 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Dennis - If you and the Obama campaign are so confident about taking Ohio why are they spending so much money and time in Ohio? It would seem to me that the Democrats would have had Ohio locked up b now.

BTW, I see Obama threw together a 20 page booklet/pamphlet on his plans for the next 4 yrs.

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

Nomorsameo - what is the title of this article again?

You ask some funny questions amigo.

  • 7 votes
#1.22 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

Democrats show how right they are with there voter intimidation claims

It's a sign that Election Day is getting closer: increasing reports of efforts to intimidate or mislead voters. Florida officials say they're now investigating fake letters that have been sent to voters in at least 20 counties questioning their citizenship and eligibility to vote.

The letters look official, with an eagle and flag logo at the top. They appear to be signed by the local supervisor of elections, although they're not. (Gannett's News-Press.com in Florida compares the fake letter — on top in this example — to an official letter below from the elections supervisor.)

Each letter tells the recipient that the elections office has received information "bringing into question your eligibility as a registered voter." The letter goes on to say that only U.S. citizens can vote, and that it's a felony to fraudulently register. It asks the voter to return an attached "Voter Eligibility Form" within 15 days or risk being removed from the rolls.

"A nonregistered voter who casts a vote in the State of Florida may be subject to arrest, imprisonment, and/or other criminal sanctions," the letter warns.

Chris Cate, a spokesman for the Florida Department of State, says most of the letters appear to be going to Republicans. He says voters who received one should report it to their local election supervisor or a state voter fraud hotline (1-877-868-3737) so authorities can find out who's behind the mailings. Most of the letters were postmarked in Seattle.

bet you wont see this on nbc but you will here about how cool romnesia is.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

Hi Sarge,

When did I ever say I was confident that President Obama would win Ohio?

The Obama Campaign and Super PAC's in total are being out spent by the other side by 3 to 1. In the Senate race Brown is being out spent by 4:1.

Ohio is a "Tossup" State and has been for months (decades) never getting outside the MoE until the ballots are counted for each election even midterms and off year.

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

Most people I know have started to DVR their favorite programs, set the answering machine for two rings and make a trip by the trash can on the way from the mailbox. It is nice to fast forward and delete but it does make you aware of all the millions wasted that could have been put to good use. I live in Ohio and will be so glad when this is over.

I am sure there are a few who have not made up their mind but I have yet to meet one.

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

Plus there is the voting machine issue, eh Dennis?

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

Listen up, Ohio; if unemployment has your community by the throat now, ask yourself what it will be like after four more years with Obama in the White House. (?)

He didn't get it done in these last four years, what makes you think a second term would be any different?

ANSWER: It won't!

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

  • 6 votes
#1.27 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

Dennis - why does no joe think you should do her math for her? We all know the righties aren't very smart but you'd think she could get her local wine shop to help her. Clearly she needs as much help as possible!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 9 votes
#1.28 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:53 PM EDT

Spanky,

You haven’t seen a single comment from me about voting machines.

I prefer to deal more with known issues than possible issues.

I did comment on changes to early voting rules in Ohio because it was a debatable issue. So far the Courts have sided with my opinion. Now awaiting SCOTUS to rule.

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

ZMan2012,

Statewide in Ohio unemployment is 7% and in Columbus and central Ohio it is now under 6%.

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2012/10/23/unemployment-rate-in-central-ohio-hits.html

  • 3 votes
#1.30 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

Vermillion,

your making 60% less because of the mess the Republicans put us in the last time! How quickly people are forgeting that FACT! Now you ready to put them back in charge? We are finally starting to climb out of this hole.

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:34 PM EDT

I think we need to give the people of Ohio credit for being wise enough to make their own choices just like the rest of us in America.

I am betting on them being able to discern the President's trustworthiness and honesty throughtout the campaign and how he and his Adminstration went to bat for the auto industry during a time of monumental crisis.

I am betting on them witnessing, as we all have, the constant changing of Mitt Romney's policies and stances, and how suspicious and worrisome that is to most voters.

The oddest change in positions of all came during the last debate when Mr. Romney said he agreed with the President on foreign policy -- after Romney has been beating the war drums on Iran and Afghanistan for four years now! His wild and reckless talk has already infuriated our enemies overseas and insulted our closest allies like Great Britain.

As Dr. Phil says, "The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior."

Republicans have always loved money and war. Some things never change.

If you are eligible to go to War, or have children that are eligible to go to War, please think of this before you go to the polls.

  • 2 votes
#1.33 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

I have a lot of concern about Romney & son buying up voting machines in Ohio and other states.

You should be more concerned with all the dead people who vote for Democrats. Zombies are real, I tells ya! They must be. Otherwise, how else did dead people vote like they did in Ohio in 2008?

  • 2 votes
#1.34 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:30 AM EDT

Republicans have always loved money and war. Some things never change.

If you are eligible to go to War, or have children that are eligible to go to War, please think of this before you go to the polls.

Maybe voters also should consider the following from the annals of history:

Mexican War = James K. Polk = Democrat

Third Seminole War = Franklin Pierce = Democrat

Apache Wars = Grover Cleveland = Democrat

World War I = Woodrow Wilson = Democrat

World War II = Franklin D. Roosevelt = Democrat

Korean War = Harry S. Truman = Democrat

Bay of Pigs Incident = John F. Kennedy = Democrat

Vietnam War = Lyndon B. Johnson = Democrat

Kosovo War (Executive Order) = Bill Clinton = Democrat

Serbia vs. Bosnia = Bill Clinton = Democrat

Second Gulf War = Bill Clinton = Democrat

Libya (Executive Order) = Obama = Democrat

Looks like the Democrats are just as involved as Republicans in wars, if not more so. And they say only the Republicans are the Party of War? What about the likelihood of being drafted in time of war? Who supported and created and upheld the Draft, historically? Consider the following:

Selective Service Act of 1917: Woodrow Wilson (Democrat)

Selective Training and Service Act of 1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat)

Selective Service Act of 1948 (foundation of current system): Harry S. Truman (Democrat)

Universal Military Training and Service Act of 1951 (lowered Draft age): Harry S. Truman (Democrat)

Military Selective Service Act of 1967: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)

Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act: Jerald R. Ford (Republican)

Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act (registration mandatory again): Jimmy Carter (Democrat)

And, they say the Republican Party solely is the Party of War and founders of the Draft that so many fear?

Of course, it is the right of Congress to draft or conscript people into the military, a right interpreted by the Supreme Court to be granted by the Constitution. But, given the above, which kind of Congress and White House is more likely to take advantage of such a right? Democrats or Republicans?

Bush was almost universally believed to be the one to activate the Draft, which claim was repeated by many Democrats, including a great many I knew. As we all know, that was a bust as Bush kept insisting that he would not institute a Draft. He was true to his word.

All during that time, however, two Democrats in Congress kept repeatedly trying to push through legislation requiring mandatory military service for all healthy persons after age 18 or two years of mandatory National Service for those who weren't healthy enough for military service.

Kerry and Edwards actually made that mandatory military service and mandatory national service idea part of their political platform and plan for America.

People need to think about stuff like this at the polls. If we actually go to war under Democrats, it is more highly likely that there will be a renewed Draft to supply troops than under a Republican President. This is because Democrats seem to support and actually to practice the Draft more firmly than Republicans. The evidence speaks for itself, I think. Don't believe it? Do a little in-depth research into the matter and you will begin to learn the truth.

  • 1 vote
#1.35 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:41 AM EDT

The list above made me laugh at the twisted facts, especially the nonsense about WWI and WWII.

America was the last to go to those Wars. In WWII, Europe was pleading for us to come and help, and America was under great pressure for a couple of years, but FDR knew the great loss of life that would be incurred and held back until Hitler had also taken over France, bombed England, and was on the verge of taking over the whole of Europe, and perhaps the world.

Pick up a history book once in your life. This is common knowledge and not secret stuff.

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:51 AM EDT

And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China. Romney is the most ruthless and despicable type of business man in our country and the right wants him to be our president. I hope all you conservatives are willing to move to China if you still want your job.

On the day before an election that's supposed to hinge on jobs, taxes and the middle class, Bain Capital, the company Mitt Romney founded, will close the doors of a factory in Freeport, Illinois, and ship 170 good, high-tech jobs to China.

The employees of Sensata Technologies were forced to train their Chinese replacements, and the American flag that long flew over the factory was reportedly removed while the Chinese engineers were visiting the site. A group of workers have set up camp across from the factory -- calling it “Bainport” -- and some supporters have tried to block the trucks hauling equipment out of the plant. According to Dave Johnson, there have been several arrests.

Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.

The most important part of the story is that Sensata Technologies is profitable operating in Illinois. Net income last year was $355 million, up 16 percent from 2010. The company reported total revenues of $1.8 billion in 2011, up almost 19 percent from the year before. According to a company financial statement, “both 2011 net revenue and adjusted net income represent record levels for the company.”

So this has nothing to do with “making hard choices” in the process of turning around a failing business, which is how the Romney campaign describes Bain's corporate raiding. Bain's partners are looking for a modest boost in profits by locating the plant closer to the booming Asian automotive market (Sensata makes high-tech automotive parts). They'll get a small tax break for relocating the plant – the one Mitt Romney insisted did not exist during the first debate – and possibly defer taxes on some of the income the company generates.

  • 1 vote
#1.37 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:09 AM EDT

Look at all the jobs the election has created ... in advertising. The American election process is an industry. I don't think that is what your founding fathers had in mind.

You get yourselves all tied up in knots... for what?

    #1.38 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:20 AM EDT

    The list above made me laugh at the twisted facts, especially the nonsense about WWI and WWII.

    No twisted facts. We entered into those wars under Democrat Administrations. Period.

    Fact is, both parties have been involved in wars. Democrats overwhelmingly support the draft and draft legislation. That is the verdict of history.

    Pick up a history book, indeed. You surely would benefit the most from taking your own advice.

    • 1 vote
    #1.39 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

    I'm going to move to Ohio and open and advertising agency. I can work once every four years and live rather well.

    • 1 vote
    #1.40 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:04 AM EDT

    OT OPTIMAL IN DEED!!!

    Romney was right and BOZOhuseen was lying ....Again!!!!....REuters report from Washington,,,

    The truth is coming out about Libya......more lies from Barry, Over-the-Hill'ry and drunken-Biden.....preplanned Islamic Terrorist attack....nothing to do with the video...The White House had 7 hours to save the UNarmed Embassy people... and let them be murdered!!

    Hey BOZOhussen, the USA now has these ships that have planes land and take off from them--they are called aircraft carriers....WHY did you NOT help the embassy people??!!

    Even the inept jimmy "the peanut brain" Carter did not allow our Embassy people to be murdered!!!

    • 1 vote
    #1.41 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

    dcpyle,

    Sorry if I sounded a little sarcastic. I don't like hateful or insulting commentary on this Vine, but this election bickering is even starting to get to me it seems. Guess I need to take a break tonight!

      #1.42 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

      Don't worry about it. I agree that the election bickering is getting to be a bit much. It seems like it gets worse each election. People overlook their own party' ills while focusing on the others' party. But, the fact is, both parties have done some pretty underhanded things and both parties have been involved in war and so forth.

      I'd like to see both parties flushed from office but the way things are these days, a vote for a third party is a vote for the incumbent in close elections like this one. I am tired of the spending and all the other ills we face. Worst of all, I am tired of the direction we have been going as a country. I certainly don't want to see this country go the way of Greece. If we don't halt the spending and make things more friendly to business than other countries, we are not going to be able to balance the budget.

      If we want even a hope of balancing the budget, we need a businessman who knows how to balance a budget to keep things in the black at the end of the fiscal year. We don't need a lawyer. We also need Congressmen who can work together with the President but that does not mean flushing out Republicans in favor of Democrats. This will only create the same situation that happened the last two years of Bush's term and further increased spending. Congress needs a good blend of people that will force them to work together or get absolutely nothing done. And, we don't need Senators who keep trying to slip additional spending as a condition to passing jobs legislation.

      I've had some time to look over some of the jobs legislation the Democrat's have been complaining about Republicans not passing and obstructing. For much of this legislation, I am quite happy that a lot of it isn't passing. Why? Because some of them have increased spending built into them. Some of them repeal provisions for worker and environmental safety. Others repeal legislation that prohibits people with conflicts of interest to continue to hold positions of oversight. Other legislation sets up new government offices that will determine which five states out of fifty get certain benefits to create jobs for veterans. And, worse, people in the Senate have been trying to invoke cloture to shutdown debate for legislation like this.

      The Republicans have been voting Nay in order stop the process of shutting down the debate for a quick vote on the floor with no further debate. Believe it or not, I first was bothered at what appeared to be obstructionism in the House and the Senate. Then I actually started reading the legislation and checking out what it was going to do to other legislation already in place. I won't bore you with further details. You should read some of this legislation that is not passing to see why it is not passing. I was outraged when I did, and my outrage was no longer turned to the Republicans who have been stopping these additional spending bills disguised as jobs legislation and legislation that undoes safety for workers and environment. If you study this out in depth, I think you will come to understand what really has been going on all this time.

      But, I do have a number of history books on the shelves at home. History (both ancient and modern but particularly ancient) and ancient texts are among my favorite subjects. :-)

      • 1 vote
      #1.43 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:31 AM EDT

      Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.

      Hmmm... Let's see. Romney has effectively zero political power and influence at the moment. Obama is President of the United States. Yet, people are going to Romney instead of Obama for help? Romney left Bain over a decade ago. What can he really do once the company has made up its mind? Has he really done nothing? Or, is that the perception of the angry? Or, can he do really anything at all in his current situation? He hasn't even been elected.

      Interestingly enough, Obama himself is making a little bit of money off of this situation. Yet, Romney gets the whole blame for the whole of it in a situation where he currently can do little to nothing. Curious.

      • 1 vote
      #1.44 - Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:52 AM EDT
      Reply

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      • 1 vote
      #2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

      Damn Backhouse - does it really take you that long to think?

      How sad that you are forced to place hold.

      It's completely meaningless, but I'm sure you already know that.

      • 9 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

      "How sad that you are forced to place hold."

      Says the guy who just posted "All O has is money, no ideas" and let it hold his place for five minutes while he added another whopping three lines.....just so he could be first one on the thread.....

      Did you really think no one would notice?

      • 13 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

      P.S. - While we're at it, perhaps the guy who wrote "All O has is money, no ideas" to hold his place could point us to the part of the article above that says how much of this total spending was by President Obama's campaign vs. Governor Romney's? And how much was by their respective Super PAC's?

      Then again, perhaps not.

      • 15 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

      JoAnne, for you. Below are beautiful photos of President Obama in FLA this morning. Look at the baby the president is holding. Those eyes staring up at the president. So cute.

      Also, check out the line in Ohio for Obama/Biden.

      http://theobamadiary.com/

      • 9 votes
      #2.4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

      Poor Spanx. Maybe he has Romnesia.....

      • 14 votes
      #2.5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

      Nope JoAnne - that's just a brilliant, shaky mind at work.

      I'm not that quick so I post something, then as it posts I read it and think of something even more witty to say.

      How about you - you come up with an outline, then a raft, then a final.

      Fantastic.

      Oh and JoAnne - they have articles here?

      Huh.

      • 7 votes
      #2.6 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

      I do have Romnesia.

      Plus it's hard to do several things at once.

      But document review is so very boring.

      • 6 votes
      #2.7 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

      Hey, Pat -

      Thanks! Also loved the crowd of 11,000 in Florida today. Let's see, Romney and Ryan were where again today? Oh, right - Henderson, NV. Wow, looks like the two of them together brought out an "overflow" crowd!

      "HENDERSON, Nev. (AP) — Thousands of people have turned out for a Republican campaign event featuring Mitt Romney and vice presidential running mate Paul Ryan.

      GOP voter David Bierwirth said Tuesday that he felt at home among the
      overflow audience in the nearly 2,500-seat Henderson Pavilion amphitheater."

      http://newsok.com/thousands-turn-out-for-romney-ryan-stop-in-nevada/article/feed/451774

      "Nearly 2,500"???? Mitt Mania rocks the house!

      • 14 votes
      #2.8 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

      JoAnne, what the heck are they doing in Nevada?

      • 11 votes
      #2.9 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

      Poor JoAnn. Do you understand what "overflow" means? No? I shall explain. . .

      See, when a theater holds "nearly" 2500, but many more than that number show up, they are called the "overflow" crowd. Arrangements for seating and amplified sound are made, so that those in the "overflow" crowd, who may not be able to SEE the candidate, can, at least, hear the speeches.

      Let's see how good you are at second grade arithmetic: if over six thousand people show up at a venue that holds slightly less than 2500, how big is the overflow crowd?

      Straws, dear. As in, grasping at.

      And sinking.

      • 7 votes
      #2.10 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

      "Nearly 2,500"???? Mitt Mania rocks the house!

      LOL JoAnne!

      I asked earlier when was the last time Willard drew a crowd of 11,000 when attendance was voluntary?

      No suprise, all I heard was *crickets*!

      I do like how Team Willard reserves the space behind him for "excited" supporters! lol

      Hell, half of them aren't even old enough to VOTE!

      • 14 votes
      #2.11 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

      Oh, and Joann? I clicked your link- lets see how good you are at second grade arithmetic:

      If more than six thousand people show up at a venue that holds less than 2500- how big is the overflow crowd?

      • 7 votes
      #2.12 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

      Oh Nooos - asking a libbie to do math.

      Just not fair.

      • 8 votes
      #2.13 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

      Yippee, the link was updated since I saw it. Oh, wait - "that campaign organizers put at more than 6,000." Now there's an unbiased estimate. And still way short of the President's 11,000, I think, but then I'm not real good at all this arithmetic stuff.

      Hey, by the way, I made the mistake of googling "Fantasy Fest Images" to check out that great party you invited Spanky and the Mrs. to down below. Yikes......I don't think it's straws that those folks are grasping at. If you catch my drift.....

      • 8 votes
      #2.14 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

      Spanky: a Republican should not mention the word Math. We all know Mitt Romney can't do it, and it would just take Paul Ryan too long to do it.

      Once the GOP gets all of its Tea Party members through the remedial arithmetic course, maybe they can explain how cutting $5 trillion in revenue and adding $2 Trillion in additional unwanted defense spending on top of the existing deficit will equal a balanced budget.

      If you can explain that, you can take that magic show to Vegas. Maybe Adelson will put you on stage after Sigfried and Roy.

      • 7 votes
      #2.15 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

      I do like how Team Willard reserves the space behind him for "excited" supporters!

      As opposed to Obama/Biden supporters who reserve the space behind them wearing tee-shirts that sport the word "FOWARD". True Ebonics. LMAO.

      • 5 votes
      #2.16 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

      Talk - your comment - from a guy whose candidate referenced the military of 100 years ago to make a point? Please - buy a brain!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 9 votes
      #2.17 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

      JoAnne ... great posts above! Truly made me laugh out loud! Pat ... great pics ...

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 6 votes
      #2.18 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

      Great point dirp -.

      Wait, Mitt makes huge coin in business. You may not know this but in business unless you run things right and at or under budget, you lose.

      Whereas O has a certain knack for deficits.

      • 5 votes
      #2.19 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:46 PM EDT

      Obama/Biden 2012

      All signs point to an easy re-election. Actually when the GOP heavyweights didn't show up to run for their nomination, and when Mitt won easily, GOP basically had given up their hope to retaking the White House 2012. And Democrats are hoping to have their Van Buren in 2016.

      • 7 votes
      #2.20 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

      Yes, Joann, we get our fair share of kooks this week- but they spend money, so it's all good.

      We also raise a TON of money for AIDS awareness and healthcare- and,that, too, is all good.

      Did you know what the "unofficial" motto of Key West is? One Human Family.

      That's why we bought a house here. That's why we love it here. Because everyone is treated like a human being- and family.

      Too bad there are so many narrow minded people in the world. . .

      • 3 votes
      #2.21 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

      no joe - OMG - have you looked in the mirror?????

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 11 votes
      #2.22 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

      "Because everyone is treated like a human being- and family."

      Really, Nojoe? Even liberals? Or do you still insult and belittle them the same way you do here every day? Do you treat the rest of your "family" the way you've treated me over the last two years? Does your "One Human Family" include the President of the United States, who you verbally spit on every single day?

      Save the pious baloney for someone who's buying it.

      Or better yet, start practicing what you preach.

      • 7 votes
      #2.23 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

      Ouch, JoAnne: that had to hurt! Excellent BURN!

      • 6 votes
      #2.24 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:32 PM EDT

      Save the pious baloney for someone who's buying it.

      For someone who is supposedly throwing a fancy fundraiser this evening, what is Snookie doing on a political message board after 5:00 pm?

      I would be getting dressed and instructing the caterers?

      Oh but wait, how many people do you know who cook for thier own food?

      I've seen some bizarro fantasies out of old Snooks, this one takes the cake... BY FAR! lmao

      • 6 votes
      #2.25 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

      Is that no jo's newest fantasy, Feisty? That she is an important political operative? That's hysterical!

      • 5 votes
      #2.26 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:35 PM EDT

      That she is an important political operative?

      NDD,

      The funniest thing is, she wants us to believe she was friends with Nate Silver! lmao

      She may pull the wool over the eyes of new readers, but, anyone who has been around First Read for over a week, knows the broad is FULL OF @!$%#!

      Poor thing, still holds the record for the number of times she has been called out on her LIES by the moderators!

      How PROUD she must be! ;o))))

      • 7 votes
      #2.27 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

      Oh dear God: I can just see it, no jo lecturing Nate Silver on prognosticating this election: "I must say Nate, you do have that wrong. Perhaps if I helped you with basic math....."

      Poor Nate. I suppose he hears from all the crazies.

      • 5 votes
      #2.28 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

      SeekingSanity

      Talk - your comment - from a guy whose candidate referenced the military of 100 years ago to make a point? Please - buy a brain!

      From the same store you bought one from? No thanks. I like mine not pre-programmed.

      • 3 votes
      #2.29 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

      Talk - your comment - from a guy whose candidate referenced the military of 100 years ago to make a point? Please - buy a brain!

      Obama was wrong about the bayonets, by the way. We actually have more now than we did 100 years ago.

      Soldiers still receive bayonet training as part of hand-to-hand combat training.
      http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/-images/2007/05/21/5156/index.html

      It still is listed as the weapon of choice for close hand-to-hand combat.
      http://www.army.mil/factfiles/equipment/individual/bayonet.html

      And, according to the following article, the number of ships in the Navy are insufficient. They need 313. They don't get to keep and maintain that number needed under current constraints. Even with current aircraft carriers and submarines (the ones that Obama claimed were good enough in his smart ass remarks on national Television), the Navy has gone on record that they need more in order to be more effective and have less deployment time. They have asked for more for years now but their requests have not sufficiently been met.

      http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2007/12/2955448

      So much for our so-called Commander-in-Chief being up on military information and what they need in order to be ready for any situation. Romney understands. Obama is clueless on his military as he is on the economy and his more than $1 trillion per year debt-spending.

      • 2 votes
      #2.30 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

      OT OPTIMAL IN DEED!!!

      Romney was right and BOZOhuseen was lying ....Again!!!!....REuters report from Washington,,,

      The truth is coming out about Libya......more lies from Barry, Over-the-Hill'ry and drunken-Biden.....preplanned Islamic Terrorist attack....nothing to do with the video...The White House had 7 hours to save the UNarmed Embassy people... and let them be murdered!!

      Hey BOZOhussen, the USA now has these ships that have planes land and take off from them--they are called aircraft carriers....WHY did you NOT help the embassy people??!!

      Even the inept jimmy "the peanut brain" Carter did not allow our Embassy people to be murdered!!!

      • 1 vote
      #2.31 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:33 PM EDT
      Reply

      All the fine folk of Ohio need to do is turn off the TEEVEE and all is good.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

      Allow me to be the first to say;

      DUH!

      • 2 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

      Translation-

      I can't believe that the most important place to win is where the most ad dollars are going. Who could have ever guessed that?

      • 4 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

      allow me to second that...would it be dishonest to third that as well? maybe I should buy some voting machines. ;)

      • 7 votes
      #4.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:48 PM EDT
      Reply

      Polls do not vote. People do! Get out the vote Ohio. To my fellow citizens in Ohio need to read about what is going on in Freeport Illinois. Progressive Power is asking all citizens to read, research, and think about what is now happening in Freeport Illinois. Ohio needs to let their representatives know what is going on there. It is critical to get the GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief." To answer for what his is helping to do with Bain Capital to the our fellow workers at Sensata Technologies, Inc. The GOP/RNC "Speculator and Chief." Is making $8 Million in "Pure Profit" from the blood of the workers in Freeport Illinois. It is very obvious that the GOP?RNC "Speculator" is 'leading from behind' at Bain Capital. That is fact! The GOP/RNC "Outsourcer and Chief." Is destroying the US Workers in Freeport Illinois, and is turning thier town into a training ground for Chinese Nationals. Our fellow workers at Sensata were forced to train Chinese Nationals on US Soil. Go to Freeport Illinois to see the Foreign Policy of the GOP/RNC "China Chum and Chief" in full action. This also ties into his "Bain Economy/Economic Policy." Hey Ohio! The GOP/RNC has got to GO!

      • 10 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

      On the topic of "speculator in chief":

      All you folks who are going to vote the Republican ticket should already be aware that if you EARN less than $250,000/yr (Earned income) that your families better interests are NOT being served by those you vote for:

      A Vote for Romney/Ryan is a vote to support the Plutocracy.

      It's the Plutonomy as exemplified by Romney's entire career:

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/04/789523/-Citigroup-s-Shocking-Plutonomy-Reports-h-t-Michael-Moore

      - There is no "average consumer" in a Plutonomy.
      [...]
      Indeed, traditional thinking is likely to have issues with most of it. We will posit that:

      1. the world is dividing into two blocs - the plutonomies, where economic growth is powered by and largely consumed by the wealthy few, and the rest.

      Plutonomies have occurred before in sixteenth century Spain, in seventeenth century Holland, the Gilded Age and the Roaring Twenties in the U.S.

      What are the common drivers of Plutonomy?

      Disruptive technology-driven productivity gains,
      creative financial innovation,
      capitalist-friendly cooperative governments,
      an international dimension of immigrants and
      overseas conquests invigorating wealth creation,
      the rule of law, and
      patenting inventions.

      Often these wealth waves involve great complexity, exploited best by the rich and educated of the time.

      1. We project that the plutonomies (the U.S., UK, and Canada) will likely see even more income inequality, disproportionately feeding off a further rise in the profit share in their economies, capitalist-friendly governments, more technology-driven productivity, and globalization.

      [...]

      1. In a plutonomy there is no such animal as "the U.S. consumer" or "the UK consumer", or indeed the "Russian consumer".

      There are rich consumers, few in number, but disproportionate in the gigantic slice of income and consumption they take. There are the rest, the "non-rich", the multitudinous many, but only accounting for surprisingly small bites of the national pie. [...] i.e., focus on the "average" consumer are flawed from the start.

      I would submit that a Romney/Ryan administration would love nothing more than to be the leaders of the most capitalist-friendly country with its' "rich consumers".

        #5.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

        All you folks who are going to vote the Republican ticket should already be aware that if you EARN less than $250,000/yr (Earned income) that your families better interests are NOT being served by those you vote for:

        And they are by Obama and camp? You think $6-$10/gallon gasoline is in the best interests of the middle class? Obama promised it. Give him another Democrat-controlled Congress and he will keep that promise. You think that being taxed for every mile you drive is in the best interests of the middle class? Obama tasked the Department of Transportation with a feasibility study to do just that. Congress even attempted a piece of "test legislation" regarding it! You don't think if Congress went that far that a Democrat-controlled Congress wouldn't push it to the limit and actually do it?!?

        How about his desired carbon taxes? How about the statement of Obama's Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, that the only way to get Americans to reduce usage of gasoline and other carbon-based fuels is to price them at rates seen in Europe? That is about $10/gallon, folks!

        Were you are aware that the recent, current price range of gasoline is greatly attributed to refinery closures across the country? Well over a dozen refineries shut down citing new Obama Administration EPA requirements.

        • 1 vote
        #5.2 - Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:05 PM EDT
        Reply

        According to The New York Times' cross-analysis of all the polls out there, Obama has a 70.0% chance of winning Ohio.

        No national poll showing them tied makes one tiny bit of difference. It's not a national popular-vote race.

        Why doesn't anyone seem to mention this?

        • 12 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

        malarson, Nate Silver today has the president with over 300 EV.

        • 12 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

        Yep, and there will be the second biggest loser after the election 1. O;, 2. Nate.

        Dude sure does weight the polls in an odd manner.

        Ah, and the NYT - nothing like predictions from the dead tree industry.

        Why shoot you all ought to bet every dollar you got. 70% is a damn near lock, right?

        • 6 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

        Hello 'Spanky',

        1) He isn't going to lose.

        2) You can criticize Nate Silver all you want, his record stands on its own.

        3) It's the online New York Times.

        Bonus) I'm a little worried about your spelling, typing, grammar, and punctuation usage…but I'm not going to make you feel bad about yourself because of it. This is due to me being a nice little literal.

        • 14 votes
        #6.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

        Hey, Spanky-

        I sent Nate the same question I just posed to Dennis. It's sad- Nate and I were friends, but that's sort of dropped off. Hopefully, it gets better after the election. Then again, maybe I should not have pointed out that he will not be able to use his "garbage in, garbage out" excuse this time around- because HE is the one who developed his rating system, and ignored the issue of democratic over sampling in that weighting.

        It made him mad- he's going to miss a great party as a result- but he did send a check, so there is that.

        Don't know how often you and Mrs. Spanky get out to the East coast, but if you like a great party, come for Fantasy Fest. It's the best party in the country- bar none, and I do mean none.

        • 5 votes
        #6.4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

        Guess I'm just lucky they don't give out demerits for spelling, punctuation and grammar then. WHEW!

        But hey - perhaps you can provide insight as to Silver's method of prioritizing polls? Sure seems might random and capricious.

        NOJO - it's a math/analysis thing. They just don't seem to be so hot at either, and particularly when they are combined.

        No plans to go to east coast anytime soon, but thanks.

        • 8 votes
        #6.5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:56 PM EDT
        Reply

        Spanky,

        The Christmas season is near, and these liberals remind me of Christmas lights.

        Christmas lights are like the people who voted for Obama.....

        They all hang together, half of them don't work, and the ones that do just aren't that bright!

        On another note, the DNC has no money to campaign, because their candidate has no clothes......why invest in a candidate that the money people have already written off.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

        They all hang together, half of them don't work, and the ones that do just aren't that bright

        Aww that would be Mitten's 1950's GOP party of Christmas lights the big ol' C5's that suck the life out of your Christmas tree.

        The Democrats are the sleek litte LED Christmas lights that shine brighter than ever and never go out and use very little energy.

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 5 votes
        #7.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

        Layton - don't ya just love it when the righties try to deflect from their own laziness and stupidity - like notsofunnygirl - who has probably never had a job that required more than clearing the tables. (I'm pretty sure delivering the food was above her pay grade!)

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 5 votes
        #7.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

        bubblegum or in this case spiceweasel!

        • 2 votes
        #7.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

        1funnygirl -

        That "original thought" you just posted wasn't funny the first time somebody posted it on Yahoo two years ago. Only then it was a not so funny ethnic joke:

        "I love CHRISTMAS LIGHTS!
        They remind me of Mexicans. They all hang together, Half of them don't work and the ones that DO aren't that bright.'

        http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101216201914AAjrAZh

        But hey, if you really want to take credit for it, don't let me stand in your way.....

        • 9 votes
        #7.4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

        1funnygirl you rock, when Libbie's start calling you names you have hit a nerve. I see they have all kinds of nick names for you , they take lessons from there messiah Obama.

        "mudslinging", is trying to win an advantage by referring to negative aspects of an opponent or of a policy rather than emphasizing one's own positive attributes or preferred policies. In the broadest sense, the term covers any rhetoric in which one refers to one's opponent in an ad hominem manner.

        • 3 votes
        #7.5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

        michigan northener - when you have to start explaining the meaning of words, it shows how dumb the person is you're explaining it to - notsofunnygirl!

        And, since you are soooooo good at "mudslinging" and lying about our President, it's appropriate you "teach" notsofunny!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 7 votes
        #7.6 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

        wow seeking you showed me....I was right. show me one lie. now I've called you out on lies several times but I'm sure that's what you mean that i lie when you stand corrected right ?

        • 1 vote
        #7.7 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

        First, northerner, you've Never called me out on anything. First lie! 2nd - only your little mental midgets of the far right refer to the President as messiah - the rest of us know he is a man who is working to fix the mess your idiot left him.

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 5 votes
        #7.8 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

        JoAnne, I so loving having friends on these boards! Great post!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 3 votes
        #7.9 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:58 PM EDT
        Reply

        The GOP/RNC "Outsourcer and Chief." He has no fair Trade Policy for American Workers. He makes too much money with Chinese Industrial interests to ever get in their way. My fellow citizens in Ohio need to let our Presient know that he must get to Freeport Illinois. It is obvious that the GOP/RNC "Bain Trained Speculator" will lie, deny, and play very dumb on what he is doing in Freeport Illinois now. The GOP?RNC "Pathological Liar and Chief" did the same last night concerning the Auto Bailout. In 2009 no one on Wall Street wanted to loan GM any funds for survival. That is fact!

        • 6 votes
        Reply#8 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

        Romney: Big buisness appeaser. Shape-shifting, sand bagging, non-truth telling, wannabe Obama-man.

        How can you trust a guy like that! One thing is for sure, after becoming Obama's biggest fan last night, Romney is going to be in trouble with all of his own party. And the fat cats who bank rolled him--they are going to want that money back when he looses. He was so lame in that debate that I actually felt sorry for him--for half a second. So pathetic--Romney will say and do anything to win--so pathetic.

        He lost all his integrity, and America has lost respect for him--you'll see.

        All republicans--how can you trust a guy with ROMNESIA!

        • 8 votes
        Reply#9 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

        All on loan from Bank of America. Bank of America is going to get stuck with that loan because Obama and gang have no intention of paying that back after O is gone.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#10 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        Obama does not have one single original idea about how to run the economy or with regards to foreign policy. Your term is nearly over Mr. President.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#11 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

        Hey, who is minding the Economy? Dow down again, and the economy is still slowing down. To those that do not have a job or have not found one, Vote for Romney and you will see how fast the economy will get better.

        This message is not for those Libs that Post on this site because they do not want to work.

        Romney/Ryan 2012. Correct the error in 2008.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#12 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

        Problem I see with the DOW is, look back to 2008. Business and industry saw the looming Dem control of all three branches and pulled back. I hope they are not repeating that trend because if they are, that means they THINK the dems win again and the economy is going in the shi++er.

        • 4 votes
        #12.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

        Really, "Talk to the Hand"?

        So all those investment firms just all decided to screw themselves over and go bankrupt on purpose and throw the economy into the hopper because they foresaw President Obama winning in 2008? That's your theory?

        • 4 votes
        #12.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

        Maybe you should all compare the Dow today to the Dow 4 years ago.

        • 4 votes
        #12.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

        DaNoid - Talk also runs through the streets yelling "the sky is falling." Typical Republican!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 3 votes
        #12.4 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:58 PM EDT

        Look it up sheeple. When the outcome was evident, the economy pulled back. Damn you people are so DAMNED predictable.

        • 1 vote
        #12.5 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 PM EDT
        Reply

        This righteous mother f'er believes in every policy, so he can't be wrong, ever. If it worked it was his idea. I think he might vote for Obama so that he can say he voted for the winner.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#13 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

        Romney was like a parrot repeating everything that Obama said. He kept saying that Obama was right. Obama Really Schooled Romney so bad that I felt almost sorry for him. I loved it when Romney said; why are you picking on me? Poor baby Willard. It was so clear that Obama won! Like Obama said; Romney you are the last person on Earth to talk about getting tough on china and Obama was 110% Right! Would you like to see the real Mitt Romney and how he sold out America by moving jobs to China, just two or three week ago!

        Romney along with Bain Corp. put 1,500 Americans out of work and now they're in China! Would you like to see the Americans sold out, then go on to you tube right now and look for.

        YOUTUBE

        The Ed Show - Freeport Illinois a prime example of two visions for America!

        Romney's Bain Selling out American Workers to China.

        Sensate Workers Protest Mitt Bain and its Corporate Values!

        Dirt Secret Behind Bain Capital Profits Under Mitt Romney!

        There're a lot more about the two face liar of Mitt Romney selling out Americans as he is running for Office!

        Romney CEO of Bain Capital buys profitable American plant and ships it overseas. Mostly to China. 50,000 American Plant in total were sold.

        Romney is a low life two face liar and very UN-AMERICA!

        America needs Obama in office 4 more years.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#14 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

        Oh come on. get real.

        • 1 vote
        #14.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:03 PM EDT
        Reply

        There is one way to get America back together. Keep an open government of transparency, participation and collaboration. Every American will take the time everyday for one hour and see who is doing what in The United States House of Representatives.
        Open government is the governing doctrine which holds that citizens have the right to access the documents and proceedings of the government to allow for effective public oversight. In its broadest construction it opposes reason of state and other considerations, which have tended to legitimize extensive state secrecy. The origins of open government arguments can be dated to the time of the European Enlightenment: to debates about the proper construction of a then nascent democratic society. Among recent developments is the theory of open source governance, which advocates the application of the free software movement to democratic principles, enabling interested citizens to get more directly involved in the legislative process. Sensitives and Senators. Now they are voting or if they go to work. Obama did this for all Americans to see what are employees are doing. We the People are the Boss. Don't you know? We the People pay them to work for us; But the Boss (us) never looks in to see what is going on. I do it all the time. That is how I know what is going on.

        The Republican Party voted NO for American jobs.

        Jun 5 -S.3240 - Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Bill of 2012

        Jun 23 - H.R.4213 - American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Bill of 2010

        Jun 29 - S.2237 - Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Bill

        Jul 17 - S.3364 - Bring Jobs Home Bill This would have moved American Manufacturing Companies back to the United States or they would pay millions in taxes each year until they did.

        Jul 11 - S.2237 - Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Bill

        Aug 5 - H.R.5297 - Small Business Jobs and Credit Bill of 2010

        Sep 12 - S.3457 - Veterans Jobs Corps Bill and S. Admit. 2789 Bill. Support Our Troops! Everyone coming home would have a job! Only the Republican congress said

        Sep 24 - S.3816 - Creating American Jobs and Ending off Shoring Bill

        Oct 6 - S.1660 - American Jobs Bill of 2011

        Nov 1 - S.1769 - Rebuild America Jobs Bill. This one bill would have made way over 60 million American job only in the United States. Only the Republican Congress NO!

        Nov 3 - H.R.674 - 3% Withholding Repeal and Job Creation Bill

        Nov 30 - S.1917 - A bill to create jobs by providing payroll tax relief for middle class families and businesses

        Dec 15 - H.R.3630 - Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Bill of 2011

        There are alot more bills Republican will not pass. These ones will have put Americans back to work. The Republican Representatives no longer represented the everyday Americans. They only represent millionaires! Why? Because they are millionaires. We the People need to vote them out of office. Put them in the unemployment line and /or welfare line and see how they like it. I call it as I see it. THE REPUBLICAN TERRORISTS PARTY! Thanks to Mitt Romney CEO of Bain Capital sold 50,000 American Business overseas and to China in the last 28 years. Take a real good look at the town of Freeport going on right now. This is the real Mitt Romney.

        Today's Sesame Street is brought to you by the letters F & U and the number 47.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#15 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

        I highly suggest that people read each of these very carefully, and then to check the record of voting to see what has been happening with these bills and why votes were as they were.

        For example, S 3457 is an interesting piece of legislation. Reading the entire text, however, shows the limitations on who this legislation will benefit. If I am reading this right, only five states would benefit from this legislation, and it falls to the creation of a new government office to decide which five states get the benefits. WTF?

        This legislation also meddles with Social Security and Medicare payments and repeals and rescinds other legislation that has more to do with some really messy business.

        The section of the part of the legislation that was to be repealed was legislation in the Energy Policy Act of 2005, dealing with making efforts to address making offshore drilling operations safer for workers, addressing issues and technological problems for smaller companies, and making less of an impact on the environment! And the section that S 3457 would repeal also addresses what to do, including removing oneself from participating in matters involving oversight in cases of conflict of interest! They tried to get rid of all that with S 3457 under the guise of creating more jobs? WTF?

        What happened with that is that members of the Senate tried to suppress discussion and debate on this controversial legislation by invoking cloture and rush this legislation to the floor without further debate as to the merits of parts of said legislation. The Republicans voted no, not to prevent passage but to prevent members of the Senate from rushing this without further debate on what else this legislation was designed to do to the economy and to the environment. I say, "Good on the Republicans for not letting them get away with this!"

        So, definitely look at not only the text of the legislation, but the procedures and reasons for said votes as well. Make sure to read every single piece of the legislation and every other piece of older legislation that the new legislation would affect. Make sure you understand clearly what each piece of legislation does before championing one side or the other.

        It looks bad on the surface but the underlying crap would have made things worse for workers and the environment, as well as allowing people to participate in oversight of operations while still maintaining a conflict of interest! Very bad for Americans. And, this is just one piece of legislation that I have addressed out of several pieces. Looks like the Republicans have the interests of Americans at heart more than the Dems who tried to push this crap through. But, it certainly gives them propaganda points in the jobs department!

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        #15.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:03 PM EDT
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        Joe to Barry. What we gonna do, we played every dirty trick Chicago style politics and Alinski didn't even help us. We played every card from racism to homophobia and nothing is working. What we gonna do Barry?

        Uhhhh, I got an idea Joe, lets talk like conservatives, conservatism wins every time.

        You think that might work and isn't to late Barry?

        We have to do try something Joe cause we are toast. America isn't buying our socialism BS anymore.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#16 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

        dmallett - Romney to Ryan - I've taken every position possible on every issue and we still don't seem to be winning? What do I do? Do I have to actually read and try to understand that damned policy on the website? Listen, I don't want to do that. You do the policy speech - you can fake it. After all, you ran that marathon in less than 2 hours, right?

        That will work for us. After all, we're only reaching out to the really stupid people. We know the smart ones won't vote for us will they?

        Oh, and let's make sure we throw out a lot of the "socialism, marxist, kenyan" rhetoric because it really appeals to the very ignorant!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 5 votes
        #16.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

        Seeking Sanity in the socialist party?

        • 2 votes
        #16.2 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

        learn what Socialism is...what is Medicare?  and "The VA: which  cares for our Vets...dmallett you sound like another mean spirited racist Obama hater!

        • 3 votes
        #16.3 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:33 PM EDT
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        OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

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        Reply#17 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

        God bless America? That isn't what Obama's spiritual mentor said, he replaced the word damn with bless. Having a little Obamanesia?

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        #17.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:07 PM EDT

        dmallett- I call BS on your talking point. Here is a link to an actual transcript of that speech by Reverend Jeremiah Wright with the appropriate quote IN CONTEXT"

        Where Governments lie, God does not lie. Where Governments change, God does not change. And I’m through now. But let me leave you with one more thing.

        Governments fail. The government in this text comprised of Caesar,
        Cornelius, Pontus Pilot – Pontius Pilate – the Roman government failed. The British government used to rule from east to west. The British government had a Union Jack. She colonised Kenya, Guana, Nigeria, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad and Hong Kong. Her navies ruled the seven seas all the way down to the tip of Argentina in the Falklands, but the British failed. The Russian government failed. The Japanese government failed. The German government failed. And the
        United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian decent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese decent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African decent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them in slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them in
        inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into position of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing “God Bless America.” No, no, no. Not “God Bless
        America”; God Damn America! That’s in the Bible, for killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating her citizen as less than human. God Damn America as long as she keeps trying to act like she is God and she is supreme!

        And to those who claim to be religious and claim to not understand the true meaning of that part of the sermon, you are willingly exemplifying: "there are none so blind as those that are unwilling to see"

          #17.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
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          In the prophetic words of Jeremiah Wright, Obama's spiritual guru....."The cheeeeekins are a cooooomin hooome to rooost". Obama one and done. President Romney 2012-2020. :o)

          • 1 vote
          Reply#18 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

          Ohio tops all states in ad spending

          There is a reason I DO NOT live in Ohio.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#19 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

          Mitt the Twitt...is a snake oil salesman....and there are lots of idiots out there ready to owe the souls to the "company store"

          • 4 votes
          Reply#20 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

          if morph was to win......the brazen lying that got him there is mind-boggling. his bs is so deep i cant believe people buy into it. he's dissed half of his own country, betrayed his fellow americans by causing tens of thousands of people to lose their livlihoods, is so souless and lack of conviction and principle......this man is a danger to our country. he is a very sick man folks.....and you don't see it. Or you hate obama so much you dont care. either way, if he does win, and i dont believe he will, your enthusiasm is going to die so quickly you'll be embarrassed to admit you voted for him. He is a slick as his hair, empty, pathetic greedy person who wants to defraud the entire country for his own personal gain and the gain of his cronies.

          • 2 votes
          #20.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:00 PM EDT
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          What would a Romney America look like?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#21 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

          In "Romney World" 93% would be White with the OTHER 7% being the dim-witted sheep

          • 1 vote
          #21.1 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:40 PM EDT
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          This is why the repukes will lose the election. No electoral vote summery. Just the votes that will provide the POTUS with a landslide victory. Watch the video and weep you right wing bigots. Note: Most woman on the Vine will love this video.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#22 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

          FOLKS...
          let's show MITT ROMNEY, Karl ROVE, the KOCH brothers, Sheldon ADELSON, the BIG
          OIL companies, the WALL STREET titans, and last but not least the TEA PARTY...
          that....

          AMERICA CANNOT BE PURCHASED.... Romney is trying to perpetrate a LEVERAGED buyout...he is playing a DANGEROUS Nixonian/Madoff style SMOKE AND MIRRORS game, a game that will ruin the middle class!

          Mitt Romney and his boy wonder KID Ryan CANNOT BE TRUSTED.... with Romney it goes to CHARACTER, with Ryan HE'S UNQUALIFIED!

          PRESIDENT OBAMA can be TRUSTED...he is leading our middle class to a strong, stable and sustainable economic future... Obama is leading the way FORWARD to a HEALTHY America for generations to come....l

          LET'S KEEP THE TRAIN MOVING FORWARD.... OBAMA 2012

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          Reply#26 - Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:36 PM EDT

          PRESIDENT OBAMA can be TRUSTED...he is leading our middle class to a strong, stable and sustainable economic future... Obama is leading the way FORWARD to a HEALTHY America for generations to come....l

          Obama is screwing America and also the generations of Americans to come. His deficit spending of more than $1 Trillion each and every year of his term has run up the national debt to over $16 Trillion. He already spent more in one term than Bush did in two.

          http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/

          Even the liberal media is now finally admitting what Obama and friends did to America! If Obama is given a second term and another Democrat-controlled Congress, he will run that debt to over $20 Trillion. Who do you think are going to pay for that? Since when did massive debt-spending ever create a healthy economy? It is an illusion and will be a costly one. The national debt is already over 100% of America's GDP.

          Vote for Obama if you really want to make things worse for America in the day of reckoning. And, there will be a day of reckoning. America cannot afford any more deficit spending like Obama's. We need someone in office who knows how to balance a budget and keep a business running, not someone who knows only how to spend America into financial oblivion.

            #26.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

            That CBS article contains "fuzzy math" at best.

            From the article's comments section:

            OK, you have to take a trillion of national debt away from the Obama column and put it back in the Bush column, for the debt increase during the first year of the Obama administration. That was caused by Bush's last budget, with his spending and revenue numbers and with Bush's signature on the authorizing legislation. Obama's main influence on the deficit began when he submitted his first budget.

            Then you need to acknowledge that 60% of the debt increase during Obama's presidency was the result of the Bush tax cuts. Does anyone remember why the Bush tax cuts came with a 10-year expiration? The price tag for the tax cuts was considered too high to get through Congress if they had been made permanent from the start. So they put the 10-year expiration on them to make Congressmen feel better about voting for them, knowing that this planted a fiscal time bomb for some unlucky guy 10 years down the road. No responsible president could let those tax cuts expire in the middle of a recession, resulting in a fiscal-cliff-like slam to the economy.

            If you examine the history of our national debt, starting with Ronald Reagan inheriting one trillion total of debt and then tripling that through his policies, you see that most of our national debt has resulted from Republican policies, raising spending for a military buildup (Reagan) or two wars and a new entitlement program (Bush) without bringing in the revenue to pay for these programs. The fantasy that we can have a modern first-world country and the world's most powerful military - without the necessity of raising the revenue to pay for it - is a uniquely Republican concept. But it has been good politics.

            No, Mr. Romney, the solution for our fiscal problem is not another tax cut for the wealthy.

              #26.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

              donnay Not a good idea. The govt. can not win a war with the oil companies. Go ahead and tax the oil companies more, see what happens. We end up paying the tax.

              For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

              Obama has all but destroyed the middle class.

                #26.3 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                KevinT

                With that logic you won't have to worry about paying more to the oil companies you won't be able to afford to drive your car.

                Obama is not destroying the middle class the rich are and they will make out like bandits with Mitt the Twit in there.

                Why is it that Rep like to pass themselves off as the business party. You don't really believe that Obama is against business do you? He wants to cut taxes to small business as well. He knows that this is the engine of growth in this country.

                Reality check- We will be in big trouble if we allow the rich to keep stealing the wealth of the nation at the expense of the middle class. We live in a global economy and eventually big business will just move everything (your jobs and their market) to other more lucrative locations after they have crushed this market with their greed. Wake up before it is too late.

                Now they want to illuminate the estate taxes so they can move all their wealth elsewhere and leave us with the bill.

                • 1 vote
                #26.4 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                Rob, are you serious? People need to wise up. No business actually pays a tax. It is the customers and employees of that business that pays through higher prices and lower wages. The business merely collect the money form it's customers and employees and passes it along to the government. Kevin T is one of the few that has it right.

                  #26.5 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

                  Obama is only capable of leading down the path of destruction.

                    #26.6 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                    That CBS article contains "fuzzy math" at best.

                    I compared their results with actual, official government statistics. There is nothing fuzzy about it. And I couldn't care less about user comments unless they have valid material that can make a valid point.

                    Romney does not want to make additional tax cuts except to make it so everyone pays their fair share. What he wants to do is to remove loopholes and certain deduction that only a few can exploit. He wants to reform the Tax Code so that people do not get unfair advantages. For example, GE paid zero effective corporate taxes over the last decade partly because of all the "green" technology they are into, whereas smaller companies are getting heavy tax burdens by comparison that make them want to leave the country and open up shop elsewhere. American needs to become more business friendly if they want more jobs and more income reinvested in America, and thus raise the tax base to increased government revenue.

                    Romney wants to get rid of the double-tax scenario levied against corporations who have offices in foreign countries that get another taxation for bringing money back into the country. This, he believes, will allow companies to bring foreign money back into the US without being overly taxed and invest it here rather than offshore to avoid the double-taxation. He wants to lower the corporate taxes to friendlier rates than other countries so that business will see investing in the US as more desirable, increasing revenues across the board into the IRS coffers.

                    The truth is, many people in the lower middle class and lower classes don't pay effective taxes. And, they get paid to be taxed when all the deductions and tax credits add up for a lot of those families. I know a number of families who regularly pay virtually nothing and get back thousands of dollars every year, with no fraud and with just the standard deduction. How is that fair to people who end up owing every year or who work hard for their money only to be expected to pay more than a fair share to make up for those who don't actually pay taxes under such scenarios?

                    That is what Romney stands for. Obama stands for more government spending until the country goes broke and America is sent on the Grecian economic path.

                    My advice to you is to look at official government statistics and data and see where it goes before declaring what kind of math CBS news reporters use. Start with the "deficit by the penny" website and move out from there to see where things were at at any given time in each fiscal year. Take a look at the official congressional budget office's web site for other information like deficit numbers for each fiscal year.

                    When you do that, pay especial attention to fiscal year 2007. That is the last budget before Democrats had full enough control of Congress and before the recession. The budget deficit for that year was only $168.2 billion. After Dems get control of Congress the deficit shoots to the over $1 trillion mark, which it consistently has held each and every following year of Obama's term. Obama has also submitted his own budget projections for his next term. His first year of his next term, if we allow him another term, will be over a trillion dollars, followed by consecutive deficits of between 500 billion and 700 billion dollars. This will put America into the over $20 trillion national debt. Do the math yourself and use legitimate data, not the talking points of Obama/Biden.

                    Until you do all that, you cannot be taken seriously.

                    • 2 votes
                    #26.7 - Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:06 AM EDT
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                    OBAMA'S LIE EXPOSED

                    From Reuters, updated 2 hours 50 minutes ago WASHINGTON — "Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

                    The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

                    The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington."

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#28 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

                    Obama has been caught in a huge lie to the American people. How are the Democrats going to spin this?

                    • 1 vote
                    #28.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

                    Unfortunately Progressives will either ignore the truth or double down with another lie. Fortunatly they are less than 25% and most of the 75% will listen.

                    • 1 vote
                    #28.2 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:24 PM EDT
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                    Ohio is going BLUE!!!!

                    Obama/Biden 2012

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                    Reply#29 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                    Well, at least we will know which State to blame when the economy collapses under the weight of all that added Obama deficit spending. So far, it has been over a trillion dollars each year added to the national debt by Obama and friends. By the end of Obama's second term we will see the national debt rise to over 20 trillion dollars (if Obama's own budget forecasts are correct).

                    How long can America hold on with debt-spending like that? At its current height, the national debt already is more than 100% of America's GDP. With increasing debt like that, America is headed toward an economy like that of Greece when we no longer can afford to pay the interest on the debt, over 8% of which is held by China.

                    • 1 vote
                    #29.1 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:10 AM EDT
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