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Updated 1:23 p.m. ET - President Barack Obama's re-election team emerged Tuesday to argue that the president is in the proverbial driver's seat heading into the closing two weeks of the campaign.
"We continue to feel very good about our prospects two weeks from tonight," Obama campaign manager Jim Messina said in a conference call recapping last night's third and final debate between the president and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.
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Messina, along with senior Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, argued that the president is well-positioned to win a second term thanks to the strength of early voting in states like Iowa, Ohio and Wisconsin and stronger turnout the Democratic high command expects from minority and young voters.
Sen. John Kerry joins The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd to talk about the differences between the candidates on foreign policy during the final debate.
But Axelrod also acknowledged that his own words might well be a headfake in the end.
"We know what we know, and they know what they know. I'm confident we're going to win this race," he said. "We'll know who is bluffing and who isn't in two weeks."
Slideshow: On the campaign trail
"Three weeks ago Jim Messina was insisting they were ahead in the battleground states and today he is insisting they aren’t pulling out of any states. That doesn’t sound like ‘Forward’ to me," said the Romney campaign's political director, Rich Beeson, in response.
Both the Romney and Obama campaigns are full of bravado headed into the final 14 days of the campaign, each cherrypicking a handful of polls and statistics to argue they have the upper-hand in the election. More independent polls have shown the presidential contest tightening to a horserace nationally, a development that has played out in many swing states as well.
President Obama voiced his concerns over Governor Romney's foreign policy doctrine at a campaign event in Delray Beach, Fla., saying his opponent is "all over the map."
Even the slightest sign of weakness by Obama or Romney is seized upon by the other. When Paul Begala, an adviser to a pro-Obama super PAC, said yesterday on television that the Obama campaign was all but finished in North Carolina, the Obama campaign tried to dispute his characterization.
"We are tied or ahead in every battleground state, and we're not leaving any state where we're tied or ahead," Messina said Tuesday.
The Obama campaign manager also played up their efforts to encourage Obama supporters who might not be the most consistent voters to cast their ballots early in states where that is available.
"Every single day now is Election Day," Messina said.
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"Attacking me is not an agenda"
Either candidate could have said that, but the Karl Rove playbook says you need to preemptively blame your opponent of the things you are doing.
For political expedience last night, Mitt Romney agreed with our President on Libya, Syria and Afghanistan, etc.
Mitt Romney skewed the topic to the economy, and waffled on at length about Auto and managed bankruptcies. He lied big time about his Op-Ed in the New York Times = 'Let the Auto Industry Go Bankrupt". Romney MAJOR lied about guarantees to Big Auto, at a time of strapped private cash. We all know that Romney's advice in 3D, was to let the US Auto Industry die.
(And let Housing "hit bottom".) How very BAIN CEO of Romney.
This President did a deal with the auto giants to restructure and reinvent itself. So now. the next gen of cars will go twice as far on a gallon of gas. States like OHIO are very grateful to President Obama for all the Auto jobs saved and created. And for all the supply chains that were saved.
Big strides, big energy savings - and we're well on track to cutting imported oil in half.
Detroit, I thought the same thing. Romney accusing someone else of attacking HIM? All Romney has are attacking comments.
I think I figured out why Mittens has such a hard-on for Russia: He doesn't like competition. He wants to model our society after theirs economically.
A larger than sustainable military
No safety net for the poor
The government deciding if or what college you go to
The country run by mega-rich plutocrats
Roads, bridges, and schools crumbling
The elimination of those nasty unions
...the list goes on and on...
Comrade Mittens, Premier for Life...
Obama high command projects strength heading into home stretch
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Both Hitler's and Saddam Hussein's "high commands" told their leaders' the same thing just before everything crumbled right before their very eyes. They all knew their leader's were such megalomaniacs, they couldn't handle the truth.
Willard sure can dish it out...
...when it comes to taking it... eh... not so much!
It' a wonder Tagg didn't come out swinging at the mean old President for picking on his poor Papa! lmao
"But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980's, just like the social policy of the 1950's, and the economic policies of the 1920's."
Basically, that sums it up! I live in the present, not the past. Let's make the present better.
Too bad, the righties think they have momentum.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Americans are tired of Romney not being able to discuss his plan.
Romney's answers.
1) Look at my web site
2) Send out someone like Ryan, Portman, Sununu, or Rubio.
3) When they explain something that angers Americans, throw them under the bus and say that is not the Romney plan.
4) Go back to line 1
Joe in Albany - what a sad little man you've become when you have to bring up Hitler and Saddam Hussein - as if there is anything they have in common with our President. But, by naming terrible people you hope to tarnish President Obama. Instead it just makes you look desperate and pathetic.
Obama/Biden 2012
Last night was an endorsement by Romney for Obama's re-election, no doubt about it. He agreed with the Pres. so much but I bet it had nothing to do with being in agreement with the Pres. but more that he (Romney) had nothing, or didn't what to say anything to make himself look bad. Romney will say and do whatever it takes to win, no matter what it takes he will do, dangerous man.
Detroit Storm, good point. I thought Mitt's comment sounded desperate but it is typical Mitt-Whining. It's what Mitt and Ann do best--whine.
Joe in Albany
As apparently does the Romney high command ... Which one are they? Hitler or Hussein?
You should cease trying to be clever, you will find no wisdom there ... or as C G Jung would say ... it requires no art to become stupid; the whole art lies in extracting wisdom from stupidity. Stupidity is the mother of the wise, but cleverness never.
Is it just me or is there a dearth of the far righties today????? Giggle! Giggle!
Obama/Biden 2012
When Romney started his list comparing # of ships/planes of 1916 and to the ships/planes of 2012, I was like "come on, Mr. President, this is an easy slam dunk for you" And President O did not disapoint me.
Only a moron would use a number of ships/airplanes from 100 years ago as an argument.
Pres. Obama thinks this is an elementary school name calling match. For some reason he believes that all Americans are as immature as him, and that he can win their vote with childish tactics. Just read the article on his recent attack and you will see what I am talking about.
I like how the President's campaign says We're confident we can win, but we have to admit we might be wrong." Doesn't sound like confidence to me, and when voters see how childish our own President is acting, they'll realize they need an adult who can lead in the oval office. The President will pay for his childishness on Nov. 6th on the form of votes.
Amazing! Obama was beyond horrible in his first debate and MSNBC, Democrats in general and everyone on that side collectively (to a man, to a women, to a pundit) said so and called him out (I wrote and thereafter, several times on line that he looked like he was trying to loose the election)!
How is it then that when the President has 2 out of 3 wins (the last 2 debates) the far right can invent such obvious and laughable fictions? Honestly, if Mitt had jumped up on the top of the table in the last debate and took a proverbial bowel movement he would/was applauded by FOX and these "I hate Obama more then I hate Mitt" types for being manly assertive, in your face decisive, take no prisoners all while simultaneously being a really nice guy and Presidential... but somehow (to the point of ad nauseum) Obama was just an "angry Black Man! I'm sorry but you guys can never own it because even though you can dish it out... it appears YOU CAN NEVER TAKE IT! By the way for those who did not watch the last debate... Obama decidedly won and in the less then nuanced vernacular of boxing, "it was a knock out with Mitt going down for the count". Proceed Mr. Romney...
SeekingSanity
they have no moderator to blame on Romney's obvious inadequacies
John Doe - you clearly haven't been listening for the past several months as the Republican pack has made childish comment after childish comment about our President Last night the President spoke facts while Romney spoke of our military from 100 years ago. You call that impressive for Romney?
When asked about his economic plan he said he has one - go to his website. Doesn't it bother you that he has yet to articulate that plan? Doesn't it appear he either doesn't know it or doesn't understand it?
You want to talk about childish - reread your post. You've totally avoided the fact that our President spoke facts last night - Romney didn't. You avoid the fact that - had Romney actually been a good governor of Mass, he'd be carrying the state. He isn't!
If you want to see chidish - look in the mirror!
Obama/Biden 2012
Barry's borrowing money......wonder if he'll lean on any of his failures to gather more funds?
SeekingSanity
anyone right of Che is a far righty on FR.
Funny though you seem to dismiss a lot of you lefty friends with their lack of 'artisic' abilities. Ikarus we are what repeatedly do.
Detroit: No, I think Mitt feels personally threatened by "macho man" Putin.
Lynda -
Mitt is definitely suffering from "missile envy"
yet Obama will get rolled by Putin if he's re-elected, or should i say he'll be flexible like a contortionist. so who's afraid of the black belt Putin again?
Where is the righteous indignation from the right? Mitt Romney has shifted his positions from those frequently espoused through the primary season on both the stump and the debate podium.
Now that Mitt has abandoned his positions on Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Women, pre existing conditions, the auto bailout, education, taxes, foreclosures etc. what does your gut tell you? Do you feel abandoned? Do you feel used? Do you feel as if you are being played? Do you get the feeling that Romney has no real position rooted in principle?
Most of us conservatives have jobs we have to go to. All I can get is part time work in our local school system.
Our President Obama is not reliable. His plan for the next four years, to create jobs, should have been going on for the last 4 years. We only have the President's words 'I'll try harder next time if you re-elect me', no substance.
"Obama pitching strength" ?????
Wait a minute, Mr. Obama said he is ALL for a strong military and indicated not to worry about the sequestration budget cuts, in addition to previous cuts, which will completely devastate the military.
Mr. Obama THINKS his Progressive Congressional members will come to an agreement which will keep the cuts off the table. Think again with Progressives like Senators Durbin and Murray on the Congressional floor.
Mr. Obama just threw out sentences on all issues during the debate to appease his voter base. Sounds like the appeasement continues on the domestic front just as he has done on the International front.
Mr. Obama is suffering delusions on ALL fronts.
Obama has Al-Qaeda on the run, to set up new shops all over the middle east. The Obama foreign policy has Islamic extremism on the rise, and it will not be any easier to dig us out of that mess as it will be to clean up the massive debt he has accumulated here at home. This country is in shambles after four years of Obama, and now the stock market is tumbling right before the election. But liberals will support Obama despite the job he failed to do, for no other reason then he is a liberal. Nothing like caring more about the party then the country.
That sour little grin mitt the twit is always wearing tells me he's just not stable.
Not the guy I want with his finger on the button.
Obama 2012!
Campdog: I think the far right is giving Romney a pass. Romney has basically convinced them that he will do what he's told by the tea party, in part by pandering endlessly to them, in part by putting one of their own on the ticket. But the tea party is certainly aware that the public doesn't like their ideas, so they are fine with Romney running to the left of Obama in the general campaign to win voters and the presidency. They know he can't be held to anything his says, since he's taken every side of most issues.
For you brainwashed right wing media sponges; Team Obama easily won 3 of the 4 debates by defending his record as President.
While team romney lost due to sketchy math, bad policy, no foreign affair experience, and essentially proposing a 3rd term of bush policies on steroids.
Rick-312779
I guess most of you conservatives work one day a year because most of you conservatives are here every day (except today)
From an AP article,
Florida, you know me," Obama said. "You can trust that I say what I mean and I mean what I say. And yes, we've been through tough times. But you've never seen me quit."
You sure can't trust him with your medicare money tho... 716 billion dollars stolen!!
Now that's trust for ya!!
It's time to turn the page on this failed presidency...
The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more !!
Yes we do still have bayonets and horses in the Military however the point of the remark was to indicate that because of modernization the need for great numbers is no longer there. This was a great response to an idiotic comment, yes whom would us the Navy from almost 100 years ago as a point of reference. If his advisor the former Sec of Navy penned this response what is that saying about him?
And yet more signs today that the economy sucks thanks to the last 4 yrs of failed policy. You guys can spin it however you want but the polls reflect people are done with this idiot..doesnt even know that we still use bayonets and horses in military. see you libs are ok with shrinking the military to weaken us..most of you loved the apology tour as well but come 11/6..no more of 44
Oh really bc china and north korea and russia and iran are downsizing their military to huh. Bet its ok that obamas own military advisors say cuts would be devastating and he acts like we need to trim down. this guy doesnt even own up to laws that he has signed instead passsing the buck as usual...maybe barry should go by buck since all he does is pass it
SS,
You've totally avoided the fact that our President spoke facts last night - Romney didn't.
Wrong! There are many, I picked this one because Obama was so persistent.
Obama: Governor Romney, that’s not what you said. …
Romney: You can take a look at the op-ed.
Obama: You did not say that you would provide, Governor, help. …
Romney: You know, I’m — I’m still speaking. I said that we would provide guarantees and — and that was what was able to allow these companies to go through bankruptcy, to come out of bankruptcy. Under no circumstances would I do anything other than to help this industry get on its feet. And the idea that has been suggested that I would liquidate the industry — of course not. Of course not. …
Obama: The — look, I think anybody out there can check the record. Governor Romney, you keep on trying to, you know, airbrush history here. You were very clear that you would not provide government assistance to the U.S. auto companies even if they went through bankruptcy. You said that they could get it in the private marketplace. That wasn’t true. They would have gone through a –
Romney: You’re wrong. You’re wrong, Mr. President.
Obama: I — no, I am not wrong.
Romney: You’re wrong.
Obama: I am not wrong. And –
Romney: People can look it up. You’re right.
Obama: People will look it up.
Romney: Good.
Obama got it wrong when he insisted over and over that Romney never advocated “help” or “government assistance” for automakers if they went through bankruptcy. In fact, Romney called for a “managed bankruptcy” that would include federal “guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing,” which qualifies as indirect government assistance by any definition. What Romney opposed was the direct federal aid Obama implemented.
factcheck.org
So much for expecting anything from the President except for one liners. That's what weve gotten the last four years. One liners, condescending remarks to anyone who dares question him, and attempts to recreate his own policies for the purpose of a debate.
Romney sure as hell isnt the best the Republican party could do, but he is the lesser of two evils in this election. I was hoping for an honest to goodness fiscal Conservative, hell, I would have taken a Clinton...but I simply do not think we can afford another four years of an Obama administration.
I listen to all of the gloom and doom predictors of a Romney White House....there will STILL be enough Democrats in the House and Senate to block the extreme right Tea Party moves. We STILL need to fix our economy, we STILL need jobs, we STILL need small businesses to feel comfortable enough to hire again. Those things have NOT happened under this President. Its time for him to go.
90 days and no more for 44
It is hard to associate our President and the term strength. Case in point, the President said that the White House dog would be a mutt, "like me", from a shelter yet the dog they got was a pure bread who had never set foot in a shelter. The President is suppose to be the most powerful man in the free world, yet he cannot keep his word on something as trivial as the White House dog. The President his this habit of saying things that sound good at the time but turn out to be just bs. It is hard to think of such a man as a man of strength.
Every day is election day.
For me, it is. I'm voting straight Blue on the way home. Go Democrats!! Throw the baggers out!
Obama/Biden 2012 - Romney/Ryan 1040
yet fact checkers prove on most points obama flat out lies but you believe it as true..guess thats why you guys are for redistribution bc your thinking has forced you to be on recieving end of it
thetotas:
What, pray tell, was the Government going to provide guarantees for, under the illusory Romney idea to 'Let Detroit go Bankrupt? With no private capital available, bankruptcy would have been dissolution - pretty much all the economists agree on this one. Romney's argument depends on people forgetting that we had a economic meltdown; anybody who thinks the market was functioning normally at the time of the auto crisis has a memory hole in their heads the size of a truck. Luckily, the auto workers are under no illusions, and that is sort of important, given the importance of Ohio in this election.
Oilshark: Obama's plan doesn't downsize the military. It maintains current spending with small increases over the next four years. Military spending went up after 9/11, it continued to go up in the first Obama term, now Obama is proposing we hold steady at these elevated levels. Romney wants to give them $2 trillion more (which, adjusted for inflation, would exceed spending levels far beyond the Korean, Vietnam and Cold wars), for large-scale battlefield components of which we already have more than enough, and for which nobody in the military is asking.
There are honest arguments to make for a Romney presidency; that not even Romney will use them is evidence that he doesn't believe they are good enough.
Nobody knows what Romney believes, but if you want to know what he'll say tomorrow, just read the polls.
Oilshark--get over it. Romney AGREED with President Obama's foreign policy. There was absolutely no dissent. Romney offered NO insights (probably because he doesn't have any). He has fo foreign policy, unless you count insulting your hosts. So, if Romney agrees with President Obama's policies, what do we need Romney for?
Your candidate sold all you right-wingers down the river. So much for YOUR influence. He has gone centrist because even HE knows a RWNJ can't win a general election. Lord knows the RWNJ's we have in Congress, especially in the House, cannot govern. They are too busy trying to figure out which among them is the most ideologically pure.
P.S.: For pure, flat-out, bald-faced lying, no one, and I mean no one, can hold a candle to Richie Rich and Eddie Munster. Tax returns, anyone? Two-hour marathon, perhaps? How about all the flips and the flops?
If Obama's projection is anything like his previous projections on the unemployment rate, deficit reduction and green jobs, Romney will have little to worry about.
DLC:
Now, there you go, getting all technical on us. Don't confuse the Republicans, it only upsets them.
Govt_Issue:
That's what happens when you get all of your news from Newmax's, Fox's and Breitbart's carefully edited sound bites designed to eliminate anything their constituency won't already agree with.
Pay attention. There's a whole world of actual information out there just waiting for you to wake up.
Choose the red pill!
Monday morning quarterbacking is easy to do (I guess Tuesday morning in this case)... still President Obama should have turned to former governor Romney and said: "Bankruptcy is something you would know quite a bit about given the number of perfectly healthy companies you acquired, looted, shipped the jobs overseas and then bankrupted... all for your personal enrichment."
SeekingSanity,
"Is it just me or is there a dearth of the far righties today????? Giggle! Giggle!"
No, I don't think it's just you. I was thinking pretty much the same things as I read down the posts up til your post. It looked like the pro-Obama people owned this thread. And then I saw the post by Caesar Augustus right after yours, and that ruined the whole illusion of peace and serenity.
bayllie,
"they have no moderator to blame on Romney's obvious inadequacies"
No, except the moderator who kept waving his ink pen at Romney trying in vain to get him to shut up because his time had elapsed. But in his typical fashion, Romney just kept right on yakking. The rules of debate seem to be a matter of indifference to Romney. Time limits don't matter to him. Would he be the same way in the White House if he got elected. Would he just ignore the 4 year term limit when it was up?
laughable libs, two more weeks and then you can crawl back under the rock.
Obama is one and done. He looked pathetic last night with the weird stare and blinky tic.
Crystal
You're mental midget. You and the rest of the die hard Reflublicans are brainwashed beyond belief. You fools watched Mitt get sliced and diced last night and you still spew your same old garbage. The fact that you morons would even consider voting for this ill informed, clueless man is laughable. Conservatives and Teabags....the debate was on FOREIGN POLICY! Mitt acted as though he couldn't even comprehend the meaning of foreign policy. If it weren't for the media this election would be over already. The media is doing everything possible to make Mitt look good and every time he opens his mouth he makes any person with half a brain shake their head in bewilderment.
I went to the Obama campaign web site and read through the President's plan for the next 4 years. What is provided is devoid of details, budgetary information, or analysis. For example to quote from the site we have:
It talks about the President reinvesting money so apparently the President considers that the money that is being spent on the War in Afganistan is his personal money and not the tax payers.
The President promised that the 2012 federal deficit will not exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet the actual deficit came to more than 1.1 trillion dollars. So much for the President's promise. The President has been trying to get congress to increase taxes on the "rich" but with no success. If the President does succeed with his tax increase for the "rich", what he has proposed, at most will provide the federal government with .1 trillion dollars more in taxes. To start paying down the debt the federal government has to run a surplus. Using 2012 deficit numbers and assuming the tax on the rich, to achieve a surplus with half of the savings from the Afgahn war, the war savings will have to exceed two trillion dollars per year. Currently we could not achieve such savings if we completely shut down our military, all foriegn aid and half of the remaining federal government. It is impossible. The President's plan is based on fantasy economics. The President has no sense of budget. It is he who needs to improve his math education.
Will Haas,
"I went to the Obama campaign web site and read through the President's plan for the next 4 years. What is provided is devoid of details, budgetary information, or analysis."
Did you go to Romney's web site as well? How does his plan compare for details? Or, perhaps I should ask, how does his plan compare for details at this moment because it will be completely different tomorrow if I know Romney?
Gee,look as if there ARE details on Obama's website then aren't there!How is this devoid of details?Half the money saved from not being in Afghanistan to reducing the deficit and half going to rebuild and repair US..Where on Mitt site do they give us a plan like this.I dont see one do you?..
@1.39 Will Haas
The dog was a gift to the Obamas from Ted Kennedy, they didn't purchase him. Their daughter Malia is allergic so they had to be careful of the kind of dog they chose. Kennedy got Bo from another family as he didn't work out well there for some unknown reason.
He was given a second change with the Obamas!
Obama/Biden 2012 0 Democrats All The Way!
Tim, are you sure this is the argument you want to start? I watched the debates...Ive listened to his speeches, I watch each State of the Union, and do consider myself relatively well informed. I dont care much for FOX (I dont watch it), I also dont get my news from Newmax or Breitbarts. I generally prefer CBS's coverage. But that's neither here nor there. What I can tell from your post is you are more interested in someone who has a (D) behind their name....regardless of their policies or performance. Please explain to me what the President has accomplished over the last four years. It shouldnt take you too long, the list is pretty short.
I can handle a debate on policy, I can handle a debate on the economy, and the correct way to turn it around...what I cannot stomach, however, are the snide comments made to ANYONE who disagrees with President Obama. God forbid he is actually questioned on decisions he's made.
You are right about one thing, there is a whole world out there. Ive seen most of it. Now, leave your parents basement and go take a look.
There are entire websites with lengthy lists of the President's accomplishments. The Internet has this thing called Google - try it.
Speaking of condescending one liners...
If you actually had been paying attention, all evidence to the contrary, you would understand how much actually has been accomplished. The deficit has actually been reduced by more than 300 billion since Bush's last budget; Healthcare reform - popular or not, it's a major accomplishment; the war in Iraq, Bin Laden, Don't Ask-Don't Tell; markets nearly doubled....financial crisis averted/stabilized.
The problem with Republicans is that they simply refuse to admit how much better things are now than they were four years ago...or just don't have the memory capacity or common decency to recall what a mess they created.
tim,
"or just don't have the memory capacity or common decency to recall what a mess they created."
Or simply refuse to accept responsibility for it, which seems to be standard operating procedure for Republicans.
Lets start by looking at these accomplishments....shall we? First, you claim the deficit has been reduced by more than 300B, I have looked for these numbers and cant find credible proof. We have BORROWED more money in the last 4 years. The deficit has GROWN. Do you get that???? We OWE more money now than we did four years ago.
Healthcare reform was a major accomplishment to divide this country. The President had the majority at the beginning of his term. He could have used that time for budget cuts, tax reform or a myriad of other issues...instead he uses it for a takeover of the health system. We all know how effective the Federal Government is at taking over programs. So go ahead and tout this system, but when it takes four months to get an appointment, and you cant get a referral because a federal doctor is on a quota system, do not complain.
President Obama followed the schedule set forth by the Bush administration to exit Iraq. Funny how people fail to remember that. I will tell you one thing that gets overlooked...weeks after Obamas Inauguration, the escalation of force and rules of engagement were changed, making the role of the military much more difficult (yes, I was there during the last election and inauguration).
I hear the President touting Bin Ladens death. Great, tell me again how he was involved? Was he part of the search? Intel gathering is a process, and to say that it was Obama that killed Bin Laden is a slap to the face of everyone who worked for years to find him.
Dont ask dont tell....my hat is off to him for that. I give him all the credit in the world. I dont see how someones sexuality makes them more or less qualified to defend this country. I served with people who I was SURE were gay...it didnt matter. They were effective and efficient, which was what I demanded out of my people.
Finally lets talk about the market and the economy. Show me how people are financially better off than when they were four years ago. It goes back to the Presidents priorities when he took office. He was more concerned about an agenda than the economy. To a certain extent, the market corrects itself. History shows us that. We have checks and balances in place to avoid a complete meltdown, so claiming that President Obama averted a financial crisis is simply not true. But you are more than welcome to explain how the crisis was averted to the more than 10% of this country that is unemployed. Its funny how people 'fall off' this list after they spend so much time looking for a job. You can also trumpet the Presidents financial acumen to the additional 3.4 million women who are now living below the poverty line. 3.4M more than when he took office!
You also speak about the way the Republicans created this mess. Were there no Democrats in office during the last 20 years? Tell me, were they too stupid to see what was happening? Or were they also part of the problem? Simply painting a broad brush over someone because they have a (D) or (R) behind their name makes that person part of the issue, not a solution.
Going back to your earlier post, yes I am taking the red pill. The blue one didnt help.
Absolutely: President Obama for a second term. Vote a straight Democratic ticket to save the country.
Another four years of Obama & Company and the US won't have to be concerned with being save from anything..... we won't have anything left to save.......
Our President Obama is not reliable. His plan for the next four years, to create jobs, should have been going on for the last 4 years. We only have the President's words 'I'll try harder next time if you re-elect me', no substance.
I was taught as an NCO in the Military your word is your bond, I also was taught this by my parents. All we have is Romney's words, but he does changes his position and stance on issues far to often. Then his campaign walks back his comments when no one is watching or listening. As the 44th said last night "one must be clear and avoid giving mixed signals and Romney gives mixed signals
The President promised to cut the deficit in half in four year and that did not happen. If he is reelected he will have doubled our debt in 8 years.
Yeah, four more years of Obama and we won't even have a democracy anymore. We will be truly another Socialist country, where all the decisions for the people are made by the so called Government. Wake up this presidents only intention is to make the people totally dependent on the Government.
Yes vote straight ticket as a good little liberal lemming. Voting straight ticket means you don't care about the person, only the party. Voting straight ticket makes you are part of the problem, not the solution. As long as people can be elected not for the job they do but because of the party, this country has no hope of ever overcoming the partisan political divide. Party affiliation is hardly a test for quality of character. But why would anyone expect liberals to figure that part out, they can't even define liberalism. Liberals are not supporting Obama because of the job he has done, they are supporting Obama simply because he is a liberal. Obama is an utter failure regardless of party affiliation, and a party line vote is for partisanship not country.
Does the entire Republican party have Romnesia? So, a nanosecond after Obama was elected and began shoveling up the stinking pile from the GW years, McConnell, Boehner, et al announce that they will obstruct and oppose everything he asks for. Then, four years later, they cry, "Hey! You didn't achieve all your campaign promises!"
How dare they criticize the President after they made it crystal clear that they were working for the failure of his presidency, and, by definition, the failure of America as well.
And don't give me crap about Obama having 'the democratic majority in congress.' it was a damned short window of time. Nope, Republicans worship money and power and do not care how they acquire either one.
And the entire democratic party has Obamahrria- he spouts crap and you guys scoop it up.
You are critical of the President's four years. Yet you are willing to give Romney the 8-10 years he wants to get rid of the debt? Which is exactly the same thing. And you are willing to give Romney the 2 trillion dollars he says he will need to do it? Get real.
Crystal
You sure are such a nasty little wench. You and your Repukelican buddies are sheep. Following blindly and kissing Mitt's butt. He's offered nothing! Explained and clarified nothing! He got eaten alive last night and you are too stupid to realize it or too brainwashed. You also may want to try using spell check so you can learn to spell.
"Paul Begala, an adviser to a pro-Obama super PAC, said yesterday on television that the Obama campaign was all but finished in North Carolina, the Obama campaign tried to dispute his characterization."
Nuff said...
Four More Years
From the article above:
President Obama’s shellacking of the Governor last night all assured a victory next Tuesday.
Vote straight Democrat ticket so we can also take back the Do-Nothing-Tea-Party House of Representatives.
Salud
Thomas - for the first time EVER I will be voting a straight ticket - for the Democrats. We have to clean out the Republicans who only want to block the President and do absolutely nothing for the people of the US.
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SeekingSanity
Good for you SeekingSanity
I SUSPECT so will many other Independents who are sick and tired of the manic tea sucking Tea Baggers wrecking this country.
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Bev - going to try to vote this week so I won't be rushing to get it done on the 6th.
I hear the early voting in Illinois is ahead of what they expected.
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Barry's plan for America......
Talk in abstracts
Ridicule anyone that opposes you
Play more golf
Spend another $6 TRILLION faster than ever before in history
Blame Bush
I have already voted for Romney~Ryan to take back America from the Progressives and the RADICALS.
Ido - yeah 'cause if there is anything you don't want it's progressives. You'd much rather have regressives - like Romney - take our country backward so everyone can be just like you - backward!
Obama/Biden 2012 because progress is a GOOD thing!
Sure lets vote for a guy whose own senate wouldnt vote his budget..matter of fact 2 of his 4 yrs he had majority in both house and senate and still No budget
tanking economy does not equal progressive...the failed policies of the last 4 doesnt equal progressive..putting a stop to 44...now thats progressive
Wasn't it funny to hear the President talking about how he is going to reduce the debt he helped create?
And, (in the Obama tone of voice), under the Obama policies, what is the projected increase in debt if he stays in office?
Not to worry. If the President is reelected I estimate that as little as only 5 trillion dollars will be added to the debt in the next 5 years. Considering that we are already more than 16 trillion dollars in debt, this additional 5 trillion dollars will end up costing the tax payers and estimated 50 trillion dollars before it is all payed back in 200 years. It is only money, our money.
Throw all the baggers out. They currently are one month into their self awarded vacation, and not due to go back to helping their own country until late November.
Boner should be ashamed of himself. The country needs action, and they take off for two months. Throw them out.
There you go again with the boners. The guy in #3.11 must be enamoured with his penis.
Is this something libbies like to play with? Oh, I forgot about Sandra Fluke. She must. Hey not so many people attended her latest ralley for birth control pills.
I gusess more women are concerned about the rising grocery bill, gasoline costs and jobs.
Hey, 3.12, the rest of us understood what 3.11 was getting at so...maybe you're obsessed with his penis...or maybe your one of the reverse misogynist, republican women. People refer to the president with a whole host of names. Do you make a judgement call on them too? Somehow I doubt it...
Dogma Bites
You Obama lackeys just love to pigeon hole everybody that does not agree with your agenda. You attempt to diminish them by calling them those stupid little names.
Hypocrites
1funnygirl
Just a kindly word of advice. If that's your picture you won't have to worry about birth control at all because you're one homely mutt sweetie.
Stop-Loss,
"Just a kindly word of advice."
That didn't sound to kind. What do you say when you are trying to be really mean and nasty?
Who showed they had compassion for the Americans they met?
Romney...
"I've met them in Appleton, Wisconsin. I met a young woman in — in Philadelphia who's coming out of — out of college, can't find work. I've been — Ann was with someone just the other day…"
Obama...
“I was at Ground Zero for a memorial and talked to a young woman who was four years old when 9/11 happened, and the last conversation she had with her father was him calling from the twin towers, saying I love you, and I will always watch over you. And for the next decade she was haunted by that conversation, and she said to me, you know, by finally getting bin Laden, that brought some closure to her. When we do things like that, when we bring those who have harmed us to justice, that sends a message to the world, and it tells that young lady that we did not forget her father."
Romney, if you can't remember a person, don't try to tell people about that time you met and promptly forgot them. Even Republican co-workers are calling Romney's statement an absolute disaster.
Debbie - Ann was with someone just the other day Could he possibly be more vague? The man and his entire family are entirely clueless.
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when someone gets that vague with me, I ask the three questions:
What was their name?
What were they wearing?
What color were their eyes?
(the last one is the most important, because if you didn't look them in the eyes, you didn't really talk to them, YOU TALKED AT THEM. You didn't listen, YOU WAITED FOR YOUR TURN TO TALK. Huge difference)
Sanity, what is so shocking about this is Romney proved every Americans fear about him.
Romney's solution about everything is to throw money at it.
President Obama's solution is to teach a man to fish so he will never go hungry again.
Debbie - Romney is willing to throw money at provlems as long as it's not his money or that of his friends.
He is beyond lacking leadership - he's not even a good follower or anything!
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Romney's meeting was real..... Barry's was made up.......
Steve - you've clearly got it backward as anyone with any knowledge of people would understand. Romney's vagueness says it all - never happened!
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and your proof is what? Fact: over the last 3 debates it has been proven that most of what obama says is either a lie or a twisted fact. Funny you clowns say romney has no foreign policy yet neither did bozo. you say he copied obama..well guess what.. his policys overseas are the exact same as W..and he even claims he pulled us out of iraq after bush already had set timeline.
Oh, yeah? What about Eddie Munster decrying the stimulus? Sure he did, all the while he had both hands out, waiting to grab some of the money. What about Richie Rich never being able to explain why the numbers in his tax plan just don't add up? What about neither Richie nor Eddie manning up and saying what everyone knows--that they plan to voucherize Medicare? Romney has no foreign policy. Period. His domestic policy consists of giving everything to the fatcats and to Hades with the rest of us. Neither Richie nor Eddie get it. And neither do you.
Oilshark- Fact: over the last 3 debates it has been proven that most of what obama says is either a lie or a twisted fact
Would you care to show us what lies your talking about.I hear that all the time from you Teabaggers.But they never say what they are. We on the other hand,can post Romney's lies easily. But before we do,I'm interested in what you call Obama's lies.
We have people in our Congress, that are doing their jobs, and they need to go. You cannot represent 1% of our nation. We are a melting pot of people from everywhere, before the American Revolution, and we had people coming through Ellis Island. We have strong values, from every part of this world. Our Congress needs to remember who elected them. I agee, we need to get rid of the T-Party people, like Rand Paul from Ky, that is just an example. Hopefully we will get a majority of Democrats so that the Congress can get it's business done. The Republicans showed they will do nothing to help this Nation. We deserve better than we have gotten from the Republicans.
LADY JAG
Don't forget those of us whose ancestors came over here in in shackles on a Slave ship. ☺That is what makes America so beautiful. We all worked together to overcome our struggles and build this country into one of the most diverse and desired places in the world to live.
4 more 4 44
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Are you voting for Obama because he is HALF-black, half-white or the best man for the job? If you believe him to be the best, what has he done over the past four years to PROVE his ability?
Steve -
That is a good point. And the other side of that is true as well -
What has Mitt EVER done to prove he is qualified to have the most powerful job in the world? Other than he is "not Obama", what does he bring to the table that would trump 4 years of actually doing the job? Please be specific...
First he actually governed a state, which should be a requirement of any president(current president was only a state senator and a two year senator that voted present over 90% of time. second he ran an extremely succesful business(current president has only held gov jobs).. And finally, libs continuesly try to demonize romney for his money but guess what..your a pretty damn good business man to aquire that much wealth and obviously have a better chance of improving our situation than obama
so when obama cant get a budget passed for the first two years when he had control of house and senate how is that the tea partys fault?
by doing the job i hope you dont mean just showing up doing everything half ass and counting on people beliveing that all the bad things are ALWAYS someone elses fault. Again failed economy and yes we all now know the unemployment #s were a lie is reason enough to try someone new..and if he isnt working in 4 replace his arce to
Oilshark--If President Obama were perfect (and nobody on this side of the grave is) and if the situation in this country were perfect (and nothing on this side of the grave is), you would still spend your time finding fault. It is clear to even a casual observer that you are not so much in favor of Mr. Romney as you are against President Obama. This begs the question, why do you find it necessary to be negative all the time?
@oilshark...
I am impressed by your callname...does this mean you are tied to the oil industry?
if so, then I would take an educated guess that you are a republican plutocrat voting for Romney, because he has the best chance (with all his wealth and experience in business) to help put more money in your personal pursebag?
I may not be correct, but youre obvious bias over wealth incriminates your obvious bias and bigotry...
I used to vote republican until the 47% video...imagine that?
The tactical error of the challenger's campaign was to allow the incumbent to shift the focus of the race from a referendum on the President (Are you better off etc..) to a "choice" between two competing ideologies.
The tactical error of the incumbent's campaign was to let the challenger back into the race with an historically dismal performance in their first debate.
Now they are relatively even in popularity, unpopularity and stature as the election rolls into the final 3 weeks. The cheerleading, venting of spleen and character assassination that passes for political discourse here will continue unabated.
I am uninspired by the incumbent and unimpressed with the challenger. I live in a state (NY) that is so solidly in one column (Blue) that the senate race didn't merit a single opinion poll, as the challenger's name is all but unknown and will be learned by most New Yorkers when read on the ballot, so the vote for President is academic.
I could vote for Gary Johnson, Lyndon Johnson, Howard Johnson, or Magic Johnson for President, and it would not affect the outcome.
After 3 debates and hundreds of hours of consuming political news and discussions with friends. acquaintances, and interested strangers, I have come to a conclusion.
I can support NOBODY. So, I am officially endorsing NOBODY for President.
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Reason #1
Nobody is respected by both parties...
Tom Hanks for President?
dangerfield-
Vote for Jeff Johnson, "The Name you Know!"
Salud, amigo
Reason #2
Nobody can get the support of both the House and Senate to avert the "Fiscal Cliff"
TG-Love that movie, very underrated...
Thomas Jefferson Johnson: Terry, tell me something. With all this money coming in from both sides, how does anything ever get done?
Terry Corrigan: It doesn't. That's the genius of the system!
dangerfield - actually we can get the House and Senate to agree if we vote out enough of the Republicans who have made it their goal to block everything. And, that's what we plan to do!
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Or, reason #2.1, perhaps you have come across Walter B. Pitkin of late
Reason #3-
Nobody can bring peace to the Middle East...
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As to Pitkin;
Nobody truly believes that "life Begins at 40"...
dangerfield
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Unless like the author you were 50-60 and made a bundle from it.
Reason #4-
Nobody has been running a positive campaign...
So, you are not voting?
Whoops, nature called ... continuing ... Pitkin probably had the idea around his 40th birthday and as many a good academic, it took him a decade or two to bring it to fruition.
That doesn't even happen in Canada.
as many a good academic it took him a decade or two to bring it to fruition.
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And we have 2 HARVARD SCHOLARS opposing here, don't we?
Reason #5
Nobody knows how to lower taxes, increase military spending and reduce the deficit without increasing revenue...
Seven Presidents in all from Harvard ... a mixed bag of results. Mostly good.
So, Dangerfield, no horse in the race? Would not a victory for Romney make it more difficult for your 2016 horse Hillary?
Would not a victory for Romney make it more difficult for your 2016 horse Hillary?
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Well, let me put it this way;
NOBODY will defeat Hillary in 2016!
(Regardless of the outcome in November...)
dangerfield
Promise? IMO she should have been seeking a second term at this point.
Promise? IMO she should have been seeking a second term at this point.
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sigh...
I read somewhere that life does not begin at 40. It begins when the youngest child leaves home and the dog dies. Having achieved the age of 64 I know this is true.
Greetings Earthlings...I hail from the planet Kolab and I come in peace. Now all you angry Syrians, lay down your arms and make nice!! And to all my friends from the planet Pluto (aka plutocrats) don't worry -- I've got your back!!
Save yourselves!! Vote Obama/Biden 2012
The Obama team should be projecting strength at this point in the race. If this race were a game of poker, Mitt Romney right now would be holding a 4, 7, 6, 3, and queen. Obama would be holding three aces, a 2 and a queen.
In other words, there are a few remaining pathways to Obama retaining the presidency, but there is only one for Romney and in order to do it, he has to win a state in which he has only held any kind of lead in 3 of the last 34 polls conducted there.
Debbie-
Nice Post.
The Governor sounded just like the Pathological liar Tommy Flanagan from SNL.
Oh wait.
He really is Tommy Flanagan.
Salud
TomasGrande
You sure about the Flanagan remark? Obama did lie about Romney's statement on the bail out of the auto companies
I guess you were all ok with Obama paying off his supporters with those huge executice bonuses the American taxpayer financed.
Rick - NO President Obama did NOT lie about Romney's comment. Romney has no legs and you know it!
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SS,
See my comment above 1.37. He lied and he continued to lie.
thetotas - no he didn't. However, Romney has done nothing but lie and flip. But, you're okay with him having no backbone and no character.
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SS,
No he didn't.
Wow is that your answer, no he didn't.
Yes he did, and don't try and dismiss it by bringing Romney in this. Just admit it, he lied, they all do. He is not perfect, as much as you want him to be, he is not.
Where did she go?
He's the man.
Vote
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"obama high command". Well I guess the Gestapo has finally come out of the closet. "The High Command" was what Hitler's Inner Circle was referred to.
proudamericaveteran - what a desperate and pathetic post. What's interesting is, the only man last night to even mention veterans was President Obama. But, you'd vote against your own best interests?
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Really? You never heard of the "Allied High Command"?
FDR
Gen. Patton
Gen. Eisenhower
Gen. Bradley
Gen. Marshall
you must be so proud of your ignorance to flaunt it like you do...
proudamericanveteran-
On cue, here come the nazi reference.
Here's a fun fact for you, proud;
Courtesy of The Guardian,
RE: Prescott Bush
One more time.
People like you think us Liberals are socialists.
President Bush and Governor Romney are the Fascists.
They are the ones that have been trying to turn America into a Fascist economy.
You vote for Governor Romney, you are voting for Fascism.
Try and keep it straight.
Salud
When Tomas reaches for a beer it is obama brand...LOL
TomasGrande
Nazis and Fascists are left wing extremists just like left wing liberal democrats
You stupid so called liberals raise hell about conservatives wanting government being small enough to drown in a bath tub yet you like to spin us as Nazis and Fascists who wanted complete government control.
Rick-
Wrong again.
Courtesy of Wikipedia:
If you vote for the Govenor, you are voting for fascism.
Salud
Rick - when you mention the words Nazis and Fascists you've already lost any debate because you clearly have nothing! Nada! Zilch!
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Nope, you are the one that is wrong. If you want the government more into our lives you are left wing, if you want less then you are left wing.
Here is one of the best descriptions I have seen:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474976721152
And here is one that defines it strictly as a function of the amount of government control the populace is willing to give their government. And both are more reliable than wikipedia.
The United States government is unique in its proclamation that the government shall not have complete power over all human conduct. The only powers possessed by our government are those granted by the Constitution, and it grants the government only limited powers. The powers not granted to the central government are reserved to the states or to the people.
http://the-classic-liberal.com/are-fascists-right-wing/
In a totalitarian government, the opposite is true. A totalitarian government is one of unlimited powers.
Notice all were generals..except for fdr which after his death we had to add an amendment for term limits for a pres bc he thought he was the end all
really....lets obviously denigrate success OilShark...
keep bending the knee to Ayn Rand and facism...and hope maybe the Odessa files will help promote another Republican candidate in 2016....
to think I was one of you is a bit upsetting the stomach...
Oilshark1
I've read most of your biased posts and I have to say you try very hard to come off as an intellectual when actually you're dumb as a stump. YOU criticize FDR? That's hilarious! You fool would not be sitting on your butt trying to be a smart a** if it weren't for FDR. He brought this nation through some of it's most difficult and trying times. On the other hand you are nothing more than a bug on the windshield of life. Pseudo intellectuals like you always end up showing their ignorance but you take it to a whole new level. STFU!
Romney took all three debates big time...Romney--Ryan--2012
Joe66 - you were clearly drunk - for all three!
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SeekingSanity
SS - are you in Siberia or in some tunnel. Have you seen any other News Paper and or Media, or are you stuck here in the NBC spin room?
Honey election Poll have Romney on top and just wait when the surprise of what happen on Libya comes out. Did you not see the Debate last night?
SeekingSanity you must want 4 more years of nothing. Thats ashame I thought ever one wanted to better them selves.
Romney might vote for Obama based on the foreign policy debate.
Mockingbird - Romney was totally lost last night - as he looks every time he has to actually discuss facts. He has none. But, go to his website and see what the GOP has designed for him. He can't articulate it as he doesn't understand it or hasn't read it. How sad that people will vote for the empty suit Romney!
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Joe if you believe that the 66 must be you IQ!
easiet way to discern an Obama victory? the RWNJ's are "frothy", eh Santorum?
Clearly there was a Commander-in-Chief on stage last night named Barack Obama and a wannabee, desperately playing pretend, named Mitt Romney. Never have I seen a political party nominate a person so devoid of integrity, so dishonest, so devoid of definitive convictions, so incapable of coherent policy, so incapable of choosing a position and standing for it....but there is always a first and the GOP succeeded by nominating Mitt Romney. Multiple-choice Mitt, the shape shifter.
the person you just described is the former Chicago community organizer and current pretender-in-chief
NH_Shellback - not even close. Our President has taken clear stands and backed them. He is honest; has complete integrity; has convictions and absolute love for our country; he has a coherent policy and - unlike Romney - can articulate it for anyone who is intellient to understand. That clearly leaves you out!
It has become painfully clear that the Republican party is devoid of morals and integrity - as evidenced by their choice of candidate - Mitt Romney.
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SeekingSanity-
I'm hearing alot of Honey Boo-Boo's today from the Romney Flanagan supporters.
Salud
Thomas - I hear even Honey Boo-Boo can't stand the Romney ticket. Says they're not smart enough!
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It's Over
Romney Wins!
Jack.....A**
Your intellect is overwhelming. Keep posting because idiots like you help convince others to vote for President Obama. Thanks
this debate didn't have any impact on anything. The media is so desperate it is sick. If people don't know who they are voting for by now, then they haven't been paying attention. Stay in Obama's pocket you pathetic excuse for journalists, it is where you belong!
I can't believ anyone would vote for Obama as bad as he has been President .... he hug his head in shame in the first debate and lost the last 2 debates.
Do you want 4 more years of nothing? bad economy ...no jobs and 47 million on welfare.
You are absolutely correct. Don't you already know that this is Obama's sole purpose. To bring this country further down to it's knees. He is nothing but a Socialist and his sole purpose is to make the American people totally dependent on the Government, so they can tell us all to go to Hell, and they will make all the decisions for us.
@PATRICIA-2396657, If in fact you really believe that, you need psychiatric help.
Not that I think for one minute that would help you since you are obviously a faux
worshipping RIGHT WING CLOWN!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!
Romney was a JOKE last night....he had no plans or strategies or knowledge of foreign policy....it was shades of Sarah Palin!
"What he said" is not a foreign policy. Rich can't compensate for stupid!
And Obama has a plan? hahahahahahahahaha thats funny...why don't you name us one Obama plan? While you at it name us one thing Obama has done to help the economy and jobs.
No, but Romney is used to having rich compensate for everything. It's how he's lived his entire life, and it's why he expects to win the presidency. Because of his wealth, he has always been surrounded by "yes men". Nobody has dared to contradict him or make him face reality.
Didn't Ann say it was "their turn"? Talk about an entitlement mentality...
Don't we all wish we was as smart as Romney and know how to make money ..but you do have to work and he does.Im jealous of him to but hes still the best man for President.
Joe, that is just an absurd comment. Obama had plan after plan for intricate foreign policy maneuvers involving Iran, Afghanistan, and China, which he outlined. You can hate his policies but claiming he has none is just nonsensical! And we have not had one quarter of recession in the economic market since he took office: NOT ONE. Yes we all wish the growth was faster, but loudly yelling facts at lies doesn't nullify the facts.
Lynda, exactly what I was thinking! :)
LyndaAZ-
How true.
Romney Flanagan made his money the old fashion way, He stole it!
Salud
Yeah, he was "smart" enough to have a father who was a governor. Brilliant!!!
I live in Texas and this state always goes republican. 12 years ago when Bush was voted into office, i knew this country was going to be in trouble. I was right, the first 4 years he put us into 2 wars and ran our deficit up, I thought this country would have learned that he was the wrong guy for the job. But i have to admit he was the better choise over Kerry. Bush in the next 4 years ran our deficit up again Then he alllowed the banks the auto industry and wall street to go over extend themselves so much the only way we could stop this country from going into a Depression was to have governemt bail outs.
Before Obama even stepped into office, Our country was on the brink of total Depression all left over by Bush. Bush put us into this situation. When Obama was campaigning 4 years ago, he promise to fix this country and bring us out of this mess in his first 4 year. I believe he really thought he could do that. He made some mistakes, one of which was thinking the republicans would help him getting this country out of thier mess. They didn't Their primary concern was to do everything in their power to make sure Obama only has one term. They never were going to work with him, they fought him on every issue they could. Every issues that they were in favor of before he took office. Obamacare is Romneycare almost in every way. Obama first mistake was to push his health plan instead of fixing this economy. I think he figured because his plan is so close to romneys that it should have been easier to get passed than starting out with his econmic plan that was his mistake. When Obama first took office and his party was in power he should have not worry about crossing the isle and working with the republicans.
I know our country for the most part is still struggling, but I beleive it is getting better. Obama promised he could fix all this in 4 years, did anybody really think he was being realistic. It took Bush 8 years of burrying this country into the ground, there was no way all of that was going to be fixed in 4 especailly with zero support from the other side. If any one thought he could you are obvisuosly nieve, and maybe even still believe in santa clause.
This country is starting to make progress if Obama is not allowed to continue what he started and Romney becomes president, the littl progress we have made would come to a stop and we will start slipping back to that depression we work so hard to stay away from/ I don't think it because Romney plan will do it. I don't know what his plan is so I can't say its bad. The reason we will stop and start going backwards is because obama is not there to continue
I am just a simple guy, I don't have any kind of degrees and with working with my hands all my life. Society considers me middle class, but feel like i'm lower class. I sometimes struggle to stay above water and had my fair share of difficultys. Maybe i am fortunite to be living in Texas and because the city I live in is being bombarded by computer companies so our economy is dong pretty good.
I feel the need to let everyone who in unsure of who they want to see all this the way i see it.
Obama has made progress and i think he can continue to do so. Romney wants to go back to the way it was before Obama took office and Bush was. President Bush is the reason we are in this mess, not president Obama. Yes our deficit has gone up are unemployment has gone up, all that is because of how bad this country was. It is all the aftereffect of how this country was 4 years ago. We need Obama to continue what he started we need to go forward we don't need to go backwards, we don't need to go back to the way is was before Obama took office
Bush is not the President. Hasn't been for 4 years..my my
But we're going to be cleaning up the mess he and his cronies created for a very, very long time. Because it wasn't just Bush. This goes all the way back to Reagan, in a very material sense. Clinton started to turn things around but still did not clean up enough of the mess, and in some ways made things worse.
It's not just about Bush. It's Republicans, and Voodoo Economists, and Neocons and Tea Party "Patriots" and a whole cadre of hopelessly lost souls who can't seem to tell the difference between a platform and a platitude, or for that matter, their ass from their elbow.
It's been a thirty two year long triumph of the functionally illiterate.
The saddest part is that there are still so damn many of them.
Obama4more, NICE post! Thank you!
I try and explain the mess that Bush and Co got us into this way...
For 8 years Bush and his cronies used heavy machinery to dig the US a nice deep hole...Then Obama takes office and because of the Republicans fighting him tooth and nail to accomplish anything he is given a spoon to try and fill in the hole with.
I find it completely insulting how Romney states again and again how he accomplished so much as Governor by having bipartisan support and in the same breath he wants to knock Obama for not accomplishing all his goals WITHOUT getting any support from the right.
There are only 2 things I hate about the republican party. Their faces.
I voted again for Obama today.
Joe66,
"Bush is not the President. Hasn't been for 4 years..my my"
No, he isn't, but it was the Republicans who put Bush in office to begin with, and now they want to put Romney in as an encore. It was also Republicans who put Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon into office, the only president in the history of the United States to have had to resign from office because of his underhanded dealings. Somehow Republicans don't give me a good feeling when it comes to their choice of presidents.
@ Obama 4more,
Excellent post!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!
I am so sick of all the spin.....
Obama said we use fewer "bayonets" and that pompus ass Chuck Todd does a fact check with his smug smiling face proclaiming .. we still use bayonets! ... wonder what FEWER means in his singular world.... I also wonder what poor Tim Russert thinks of David Gregory - Tim was so far above the rhetoric .. he was a fact guy - I no longer even watch the show anymore with Gregory showing such negative bias .. sad but true ... all these hand picked talking heads need to put a sock in it - and let the voters listen with their ears and brains - and not try to keep putting all their spin on every comment ... 2 more weeks and we get our lives back - either way .. we get this crap out of our tv - off our radio - and out of our mailboxes.... /end rant
Bob: yes. This exactly! Thanks.
@ Bob.... well said..
sure do miss Tim Russert...Meet the Nation has never been the same since his death!
Great reading this page, I love it. Except, I like Chuck Todd just fine...he reports that Republicans refuse to acknowledge what obviously feels like an Obama advantage. Deny, defy, refuse, refute, scare, pander, lie... Rush/Rove/Romney/Ryan
Release the Hounds.
None of you marxist//fascist/libs will admit that he WILL NOT AND WILL BE AN ENEMY TO OIL DRILLING. You keep talking about your little bicycle cars that get 1000mpg. But NO combustion engine car will EVER get over 50mpg. And battery technology is EXACTLY where it was in the 70s. the other marxist/fascist/lib carter already did the battery/choo choo train thing. Look it up. You marxist/fascist/libs could put a windmill on every square inch of U.S. soil, with a solar panel underneath EVERY windmill and it gets us 20% towards the total U.S. requirement. What's you plan marxist/fascist/libs for the other 20% ---and don't use the Bakken oil fields of North and South Dakota ---where they have 3% unemployment. They did that there in spite of the communist in charge. He can't tell them what to do with their PRIVATE LAND---and that enrages the marxist/fascist/lib in charge. But he takes credit for the oil production he fought so hard to stop. LAUGHABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gunther, you are obviously not an engineer, so don't pretend you are an authority on anything other than what kind of tinfoil makes the best hat.
Diesel engines surpassed that 15 years ago, and gasoline engines surpass that now, Honda Civic and VW Jetta are two examples. American car companies have a few models in the works currently.
You must be real proud of your ignorance to put it on display like that...
It is as if thousands of design engineers worldwide all cried out at once, but were suddenly silenced.
I'm a long term Florida Republican, who will now vote a straight Democratic ticket. The GOP Congress has been obstructionist due to their stated number one desire to defeat President Obama. Flip-flop Romney has openly dismissed half of the country - he first later agreed with his statement and then took it back.
At this point, middle and lower-class americans have to be retarded to voted GOP - Reptards!
Im a Democrat and want to better myself so Ill vote for Romney. We all know hes the better canadate after last night.
Ray Dan-
Bravo, Dan.
You've made the right choice.
Perhaps in 2016, if the Republican Party kicks the Tea Party out, you can vote again for a real Eisenhower/Ford/Dole candidate.
Salud
dan quite lying, based on your comments is enough proof you have never voted repub...and blaming repubs for 4 yrs of failed policy and 4 no vote budgets when dems had control for 2 of those yrs proves my point
@ oilshark...yup its me again..
your mindless fodder just makes me want to froth...
the last great Republican president was Eisenhower..the rest are lying, cheating plutocratic fools-- REAGEN included!
Eisenhower was the greatest general in American history and a military mind bar-none, and hear is what he had to say...
now be "honest" ...and you tell me and the rest of MSNBC forums how you can still vote for Mitt Romney who has the contempt of integrity to call himself a "republican' (and yourself included) ???
as a soldier of 14 years I served my country proudly and wore the uniform in two combat tours... I will never forget my training and my ability to be proud to call myself an American and Federal Republican...and yet this political quagmire makes me even more sure that my vote WILL make a difference and that INTEGRITY is the capstone of my vote...
as a free-thinking American voting my conscience ( a freedom I fought for along with my companions) I will vote Obama and Biden as my choice...he is more an Eisenhower and a Republican than Mitt Romney could ever dream of being!
have a nice day! ;)
The Incredible Shrinking Obama Campaign!
I think the reason why Romney pretty much agreed with all of Obama foreign policies is becuase he really doesn't know what is going on over there and doesn't know how to handle it. He figure he could hide his lack of knowledge by agreeing with obama and not challenge him because he would have looked like an idiot trying to argue with him.
Bob , Lincoln County , NC
Bob, I took a snip form your post and I agree with you on this one. The real crap is the Obama campaigners here in MSNBC. They are not even commentators. I have been tuning onto them and believe me it is painful. More painful than listening to Bill Mahers. Anyway read below what Chris chills up his legs says below. A truly delusional man.
Famously tingly MSNBC host Chris Matthewsdecided the whole race came down to, well, race. In one of the more outlandish rants of an outlandish career, Matthews said the right hates Obama more than they want to destroy Al Qaeda, according to The Hill. The rant is too priceless to edit:
“I think they hate Obama. They want him out of the White House more than they want to destroy Al Qaeda. Their No. 1 enemy in the world right now, on the right, is their hatred, hatred for Obama. And we can go into that about the white working class in the South and looking at these numbers we're getting the last couple days about racial hatred in many cases … this isn't about being a better president, they want to get rid of this president,’ he said.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/23/post-debate-msnbcs-matthews-claims-romney-supporters-fueled-by-racial-hatred/#ixzz2A94H9kmB
I live in rural NC ... if you know the county - it is deep red ... and all I hear out hear is the "n" word used for our President...
Now I may like or dislike him - my right .. but come on people .. what about the respect for the office - this is OUR country ... I think GWB was a disgrace as a President (liked him as a "guy" though - funny guy - good humor etc) - Hated Nixon (who we all know was actually a good president in hindsight) but never ever would insult the office ... as we age - we learn .. they are for "now" .. and now is 4 or 8 years max - then someone else will take the role... and we will all survive .. that is why this is a great country .. we WILL all survive, even the worst presidents.
Chris is not wrong IMHO ... but he has no business spouting it .. just like Rush and Hannerty have no place in my world .. WHY? .. because who cares what they say or think ... many of us think for ourselves ... and then they come along and fuel or fan the fires... trying to create problems - not fix problems.
I do not watch FAUX news... I do not much care for MSNBS either .. but one thing I have learned - and it surprised the heck out me .. as a 64 year old man who grew up in a very racist home ... of all the commentators out there... I am shocked that I find myself enjoying the Reverend Al Sharpton's insight and wit .. does that mean I agree with him 100% ... no .. but I enjoy that show ... because when you dig deep enough - you find some general grains of truth.
I already voted.. and found I could never vote for a man with no core ... Romney IMHO has no core.. stand up for what you believe.. I listened to him clearly - he will change any position to get elected - so how do you expect him to stand for anything real? ..
We are faced with a choice between "possible" and "who knows" ... sorry - but I go with "possible" .. better the one eyed camel than the blind camel.
Now to all the people who "spew" here ... I do not post often or read often - my wife is the lurker here - been years in fact since I bothered ... the reason .. either make sense - be intelligent and discuss - or most of us have better things to read .. and discuss... then the caliber of discussion may be elevated.. until then.. vote your opinion .. stop spinning mine....
Bob - as a former North Carolinian, people like you make me proud. Please come back more - we need to hear from people like you!
Obama/Biden 2012
Bob- you are so right . These blogs are filled with workers from both the Dems and Reps. I have seen their handles on all the newsarticles about this campaign. I surf reading the articles and the time they spend on here, well, they must be paid to do it. I value your opinion more, because I think it is a lot like the rest of America thinks.
Our President has done a remarkable job considering the opposition's obstructiveness. And it began from day one. You can't tell me it is not racism. President Obama is a smart, kind, thoughtful man. Even when he has advisors, I am sure he uses his intelligence to come to the correct solution to problems. What wasted this country were the 8 years of Bush's cronies ruining this country to fill their pockets. And they are fighting hard to get it back, at the expense of the rest of America.
Better to go with who we know then the unknown. Please people, the economy is improving, jobs are coming back and our troops are coming home. Please vote the Democrat ticket and keep the President in office.
Not a chance in hill Teresa, I am voting for America and that is a definite NO for obama.
texasbob...it amazes me how white racists will not vote for a man who is more lookng out for their interestes, because of the color of his skin...while a lily-white millionaire and his lily-white advisors are so easily able to manipulate these morons! :)
I will have to take your word for it joseph; since I do not hang out or associate with racists of any color I really don't know. If someone is making decisions based on their or someone Else's skin than they have a problem they might want to work on.
texasbob,
"I do not hang out or associate with racists of any color"
Good for you, texasbob! Some people tend to think all Texans are a bunch of racist rednecks. I'm not a Texan myself, but I lived in San Antonio for several years so I know that that stereotype of Texans, like most stereotypes, is simply not true.