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DES MOINES, Iowa – Speaking to Democratic activists at a fundraising dinner here on Saturday, Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa lashed out at the Republican Party and said a Mitt Romney presidency would halt progress won under President Barack Obama.
"Today, between the Tea Partiers, the climate change deniers, the birthers and the flat-earthers, I hardly recognize the Republican Party anymore," Villaraigosa said, telling the crowd that as a mayor he has sought to work across party lines.
"Republicans used to stand for something,” he said. “And now they just stand in the way."
Villaraigosa was in Des Moines to headline the Iowa Democrats' Jefferson Jackson dinner, the state party's annual marquee fundraising event.
In an interview, he called the invitation a great honor. Past keynoters have included other Democrats on a national trajectory, including a turn in 2007 by then-candidate Obama.
But if it seems like Villaraigosa is eyeing a White House bid, he wouldn't say.
"My aspiration right now is to get the president elected," he told NBC News.
Villaraigosa will be term-limited next year in Los Angeles and said he wants to "finish strong."
Though he supported Hillary Clinton for president in 2008, he has since emerged as a visible surrogate for President Obama.
In September, he served as chairman of the Democratic National Convention, helping to raise the profile of the Hispanic community at a time when both parties are battling over the country's largest-growing demographic.
Villaraigosa said during the interview that he predicted Obama would win more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote in August – a time when the president, though still enjoying an advantage, was polling in the low 60s.
"I still maintain that when it's all said and done, Latinos will vote overwhelmingly for President Obama," Villaraigosa said Saturday.
He cited Republican opposition to the DREAM act, which would provide a path to citizenship for children who moved to the United States illegally as children, and which he said Republicans say is a "handout."
Asked about Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the rising Republican star who makes frequent references to faith, family and free market principles – ideas that some conservatives say will lead Hispanics to the Republican Party – Villaraigosa was polite but said the GOP has "gone so far to the right."
"I have a lot of respect for him," Villaraigosa said of Rubio. "But that's not the point of view reflected in the Latino vote."
(Rubio has said the Republican Party needs to soften on immigration, and has proposed alternative legislation which would not include the DREAM Act's pathway to citizenship.)
While Villaraigosa called for moderation from the right, he was outspoken in his defense of the broad reforms enacted by the Obama administration that Republicans have called divisive and have pledged to undo.
During his speech, he called the election a decision on the country's "fundamental direction."
"What people don't realize about those first two years with Nancy Pelosi and Democratic majority in the House and Senate, and President Obama," he said, "it actually was the most productive congress since the Johnson administration."
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If new immigrants don't come, America will be in trouble.
According to a data, between 1995 and 2005, 25% of high-tech startups in the United States had at least one immigrant founder, and these companies have created more than 450,000 jobs (CNN - November 2011).
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There are some conservatives who are very xenophobic - the reason these conservatives are still breathing their xenophobic air is that these new comers have made life more confortable for these conservatives and made it easier for these conservatives to breath their xenophobic air.
How many of those people are comming from Latin America countries? That would be none. Yes, our current laws have provisions for just those types of jobs. Thats not the problem, the problem is Mexico is dumping generations on us and we cannot afford it right now. Its not hard, when you go to a school in America and English is a second thought there is a problem.
Pig, immigrants are not the problem and not what Republicans are against. Illegal aliens are what the Republicans are against. All Americans should be against illegal aliens. I won't even use the word immigrants when referring to illegals. To be called an immigrant you must go through the legal process to enter this Country. Illegal aliens come here and steal jobs from Americans that need them. Don't give me the "they take jobs Americans won't do" line because that is crap. Illegal is illegal and a criminal is a criminal. I'm also sick of giving my hard earned tax dollars to someone the shouldn't even be here in the first place and I don't care where they are from (so don't give me the bigot line either). I have said many times, if you give these illegal aliens a pass on breaking the law then you have to let all the criminals out of jail. You can't apply the law on some and not to all.
Well said, Mr. Mayor. Most of us don't either. Hell, even real Republicans don't as well.
From #2.2 -
It's taking too long and it's too expensive to apply for legal immigration sometimes. And US businesses sometimes can't wait (W. Bush mentioned this in his memoir Decision Points) - the current immigration system has been broken for some time. But the GOP has refused to make the country better in the area of immigration policy (all it takes is a filibuster by a GOP buster in the senate). So why would some want to wait that long and pay that high a fee that they don't have, when it's cheaper for some to just walk right over. It's not that people want to be here illegally; sometimes the system doesn't work and there is no legal way - US immigration laws have failed too many.
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Besides, the US has been in a recession, the illegal border crossing has reduced to a trickle recently. Some families in other countries have even wired money to their out-of-job relatives here ... more have gone home and been working on jobs outsourced by Mitt and other venture capitalists.
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The US is not only losing moral high ground, but also losing more jobs to foreign competitors. But those right-wing nuts are still crying wolf that no longer exists. Dumb-arse. wake up, idiots, we are no longer that special any more.
Tell that to the people that hire them because they'll work for half of what an American worker will. When are you ever going to get the facts straight? Probably never because FOX keeps you misinformed. Just remember this, if they throw all of those Mexican workers out, who will cut the grass of guys like Mitt Romney?
Why won't democrats support mandatory e-verify legislation with penalties to those that hire illegals?
Yes FOX always tells me to enslave an entire race so we can have cheap produce and then say look how much better they have it here being our slaves. Libs full of yourselves as usual. Imagine illegals not being here in such vast numbers. Farmers have to pay American workers proper wages- you pay more at the store for that. NO, NO, NO, you say. Savings, schools not being over run in un-prepared communities, hospitals, I love the cost associated with that one, but my favorite is savings in the crimminal justice system. Can you see thru the lib fog? Just look....
Miss Pigotry:
I'd suggest you shove your xenophobic remarks up your hunky dunky waacha cha doo doo You are not impressing anybody here.
nh_shellback: Do you really have to ask? They don't support limiting voting to citizens of this country, why would they not want illegals working here?
So, the GOP doesn't stand for anything, they just stand in the way! Considering he started off name calling, it's clear that he thinks like a 5 year old. Standing in the way of the destruction of the country is the most noble thing to stand for. Standing up for the Constitution is also noble. But, if your strongest argument is calling someone else names, then it would be ridiculous to expect them to understand logic and standing for something.
According to statistics from Partnership for a New American Economy, 40% of Fortune 500 companies were created by immigrants or their children (CNN November 2011 - the same source used earlier)
Who cares what that racist "BROWN FACE" has to say. He can go "TROT" back to his LA mansion and rule over his willing serfs.
Separate the Conservatives, from the Small Business From the Big Businesses: (E-5 and H-1B robbing America of American.)
Way down on the small business end, we might want to support Americans in American Businesses, but if I can hold a Visa Immigrant Hostage, it is easier to manipulate them, their finances, and their taxes and through them get to Congress to help big businesses.
America for Sale: If America is not for sale, then why advertise the Sale, Mom and Pop Business are very profitable?
Sorry this Link is so buried, but the intentions are, hum say deliberate?
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facb83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=facb83453d4a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
Home > Working in the United States > Permanent Workers > Employment-Based Immigration: Fifth Preference EB-5
EB-5 Immigrant Investor
Visa Description
USCIS administers the Immigrant Investor Program, also known as “EB-5,” created by Congress in 1990 to stimulate the U.S. economy through job creation and capital investment by foreign investors. Under a pilot immigration program first enacted in 1992 and regularly reauthorized since, certain EB-5 visas also are set aside for investors in Regional Centers designated by USCIS based on proposals for promoting economic growth.
All EB-5 investors must invest in a new commercial enterprise, which is a commercial enterprise:
Established after Nov. 29, 1990, or
Established on or before Nov. 29, 1990, that is:
1. Purchased and the existing business is restructured or reorganized in such a way that a new commercial enterprise results, or
2. Expanded through the investment so that a 40-percent increase in the net worth or number of employees occurs
Commercial enterprise means any for-profit activity formed for the ongoing conduct of lawful business including, but not limited to:
A sole proprietorship
Partnership (whether limited or general)
Holding company
Joint venture
Corporation
Business trust or other entity, which may be publicly or privately owned
This definition includes a commercial enterprise consisting of a holding company and its wholly owned subsidiaries, provided that each such subsidiary is engaged in a for-profit activity formed for the ongoing conduct of a lawful business.
Note: This definition does not include noncommercial activity such as owning and operating a personal residence.
Job Creation Requirements
Create or preserve at least 10 full-time jobs for qualifying U.S. workers within two years (or under certain circumstances, within a reasonable time after the two-year period) of the immigrant investor’s admission to the United States as a Conditional Permanent Resident.
Create or preserve either direct or indirect jobs:
Direct jobs are actual identifiable jobs for qualified employees located within the commercial enterprise into which the EB-5 investor has directly invested his or her capital.
Indirect jobs are those jobs shown to have been created collaterally or as a result of capital invested in a commercial enterprise affiliated with a regional center by an EB-5 investor. A foreign investor may only use the indirect job calculation if affiliated with a regional center.
Note: Investors may only be credited with preserving jobs in a troubled business.
A troubled business is an enterprise that has been in existence for at least two years and has incurred a net loss during the 12- or 24-month period prior to the priority date on the immigrant investor’s Form I-526. The loss for this period must be at least 20 percent of the troubled business’ net worth prior to the loss. For purposes of determining whether the troubled business has been in existence for two years, successors in interest to the troubled business will be deemed to have been in existence for the same period of time as the business they succeeded.
A qualified employee is a U.S. citizen, permanent resident or other immigrant authorized to work in the United States. The individual may be a conditional resident, an asylee, a refugee, or a person residing in the United States under suspension of deportation. This definition does not include the immigrant investor; his or her spouse, sons, or daughters; or any foreign national in any nonimmigrant status (such as an H-1B visa holder) or who is not authorized to work in the United States.
Full-time employment means employment of a qualifying employee by the new commercial enterprise in a position that requires a minimum of 35 working hours per week. In the case of the Immigrant Investor Pilot Program, "full-time employment" also means employment of a qualifying employee in a position that has been created indirectly from investments associated with the Pilot Program.
A job-sharing arrangement whereby two or more qualifying employees share a full-time position will count as full-time employment provided the hourly requirement per week is met. This definition does not include combinations of part-time positions or full-time equivalents even if, when combined, the positions meet the hourly requirement per week. The position must be permanent, full-time and constant. The two qualified employees sharing the job must be permanent and share the associated benefits normally related to any permanent, full-time position, including payment of both workman’s compensation and unemployment premiums for the position by the employer.
Capital Investment Requirements
Capital means cash, equipment, inventory, other tangible property, cash equivalents and indebtedness secured by assets owned by the alien entrepreneur, provided that the alien entrepreneur is personally and primarily liable and that the assets of the new commercial enterprise upon which the petition is based are not used to secure any of the indebtedness. All capital shall be valued at fair-market value in United States dollars. Assets acquired, directly or indirectly, by unlawful means (such as criminal activities) shall not be considered capital for the purposes of section 203(b)(5) of the Act.
Note: Investment capital cannot be borrowed.
Required minimum investments are:
General. The minimum qualifying investment in the United States is $1 million.
Targeted Employment Area (High Unemployment or Rural Area). The minimum qualifying investment either within a high-unemployment area or rural area in the United States is $500,000.
A targeted employment area is an area that, at the time of investment, is a rural area or an area experiencing unemployment of at least 150 percent of the national average rate.
A rural area is any area outside a metropolitan statistical area (as designated by the Office of Management and Budget) or outside the boundary of any city or town having a population of 20,000 or more according to the decennial census.
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Those are the rules, but so many are the questions:
However cloaked by the United States Chamber of Commerce this is the plan to sell America out, first by using and manipulation of the American Small Business Community to influence Congress, then by using foreign investment to purchase alleged business they piggy back carrying foreign immigrants, then by allegedly creating ten menial jobs to validate the program of entrapment, servitude and eventual slavery.
It is an idiots delight to read of this EB-5 program, but reaching out and wrapping the American flag around wealthy foreign immigrants, to create small businesses, to create small jobs. You could suggest that the players who made this program, are same ones who needed to exploit foreign talent H-1B, dating to the Reagan/Bush - O'Neill /Moynihan Era.
The difference is control; it is far easier to 'manage' foreign immigrants, because they are held in thrall by immigrant Visa programs, leveraging finance, immigration status and political power. From moral point of view it is designed to exploit the 'new world order', which in summary means a wealthy nationless cabal able to travel the world they own or control, in formidable luxury.
It is so sad that as much cleverness as humans can muster has to apply against their fellow humans.
Since there is nothing of redemption that can be said, we will have to wait for this rot to compost and become fertile again.
Tonybeerm:
I think you would change your mind about Fox news if you would just let go of your liberal ethics. I have heard only well documented news at FOX., usually BOTH sides of a story are presented, Liberal commentators are given time to respond or add to the discussion. To say they are blatantly wrong or telling lies is just not true. I think you really hate FOX news because they tell the TRUTH. And you Liberals just can't stand that. Wake up man.. before it's too late. Nobama is NOT right for America!
HE WILL SINK AMERICA INTO A SLIMEPIT OF DISPAIR AND MARXIST/SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP
That's it.
Put a Fork in it.
This Turkey is done.
When REPUBLICANS are publically declaring they don't want MITT ROMNEY as their President,
you know the REPUBLICANS aren't just LOSING the ELECTION
They've ALREADY LOST.
Too bad. How sad. I'm glad.
Even REPUBLICAN Senator CHUCK GRASSLEY has said that the ONLY REASON to INVEST
in the CAYMAN ISLANDS is the Possibilty of AVOIDING U.S. TAXES.
MITT ROMNEY is the FIRST CANDIDATE for Presiddent to have a SWISS BANK ACCOUNT.
MITT ROMNEYdoes NOT PASS the "SMELL TEST"
PRESIDENT OBAMA has Put his FAITH in AMERICA and the AMERICAN PEOPLE
Mitt Romney has put his Faith in SWITZERLAND
Faux Noise professes twisted hatred and bigotry to any who tune in. They either make up their stories, distort them, take them out of context, or just plain lie if they are getting lazy. The only purpose of Fox is to stir hatred in angry white men and to serve its billionaire master, Rupert Murdoch, to get uninformed hateful suckers to vote against their own economic self interest. Rupert thanks all the suckers who watch his twisted network for their votes, and will widen further the income gap between middle class and poor Americans and himself and his plutocrat buddies. Fair? Balanced? Wow, you have been had!
Old-Ed - They have preformed surveys about people like you. You are told by Fox News that Fox News is "fair and balanced". Not true. They regularly tell half the story or leave out important parts. Want proof...
http://www.inquisitr.com/241677/study-fox-news-viewers-less-informed-than-those-who-watch-no-news-at-all/
I like to watch for its humor value and to see why people like you feel as you do. They take the term blonde bimbo to a whole new level, but they know you like to watch.
If such a big issue for Mr Obama.... why did he not take charge of it during his first 100 days? OR maybe even the first TWO YEARS while he enjoyed control of Congress?
Why did he wait this issue out until he could use immigration as a PAWN for his re-election?
He claims they'll lose progress? Pres. Obama and progress are polar opposites.
Wow everybody, Listen to this, especially ALL you from the LATINO COMMUNITY in FLORIDA what
REPUBLICAN Los Angles MAYOR Antonia Villaraigosa has TODAY declared to the WHOLE WORLD,
that the GOP has "Gone so Far to the Right, today between the TEA PARTIERS,
the CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS, the BIRTHERS and the FLAT-EARTHERS,
I hardly recognize the REPUBLICAN PARTY anymore."
This One statement is DEVASTATING to MITT ROMNEY and his GOP MASTERS,
KARL ROVE and DICK CHENEY, the "real power" behind the Cowardly MITT ROMNEY.
You know it.
I know it,
and now your "REPUBLICAN MOMMA " knows it.
Thank God Obama will be our President for Four more Years.
TonyBeerm
I can think of at least 10 legal Americans who would gladly cut Mitt's grass for minimum wage..
I don't know what state you live in, but the one I live in has an unemployment rate of nearly 10 percent.
Hey EVERYBODY, the TRUTH is out there.
and it's in my Award-winning Post, just ABOVE in my POST #1.19
Even REPUBLICANS are "FLOCKING" to my Post #1.19 just ABOVE.
It's NOT me saying it, it's a LEADING REPUBLICAN saying it.
He KNOWS the EVIL that Exists in the DARKEN HEARTS of his fellow REPUBLICANS
and those crazy TEABAGGERS, FLAT EARTHERS, CLIMATE-CHANGE DENIERS, and BIRTHERS.
He knows his GOP PARTY is Run by KARL ROVE and DICK CHENEY.
Hey, I got a GREAT IDEA.
Let all you in the LATINO COMMUNITY in FLORIDA and other STATES vote a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this NOVEMBER 2012
hokey-dokey?
THANK-GOD that the honorable and kind PRESIDENT OBAMA will be our PRESIDENT,
and the RULER, MASTER and OVERLORD of all you Crazy TEABAGGERS,
you FLAT EARTHERS, you CLIMATE-CHANGE DENIERS and you BIRTHERS,
for the NEXT FOUR (yes! 4) very-very LONG YEARS.
Let's send the Golden-Tablet Worshipper Mitt Romney and his "little side-kick",
the AYN RAND "Atlas Shrugged" worshipper, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the Republican Party
"BACK to the Political DUNG HEAP of HISTORY"
Is that a Great-Idea, or what?
Remember Vote a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this November 2012,
like your LIFE depends on it,
because it does.
We don't want to GO BACK to the BUSH REGIME and Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.
Now do we?
hokey-dokey?
I so ! The party is NOT a party anymore. I appreciate a good, civil, debate ... but the Republican party offers nothing at the moment. I think the GOP should focus on getting their ducks in a row. They didn't ask GWB to their show, they don't have him stumping for Mittens, and yet ... all of the Democratic Presidents of the past support President Obama.
Obama/Biden 2012
What progress are you talking about Mr. Mayor? Obama himself said he hasn't done anything on illegal immigration. He said this while talking to a Spanish TV station.
Jo Ann ... really???
Do you read???? anything????
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/politics/obama-univision-forum/index.html
Obama/Biden 2012
Jo Ann, so why mitt and his republicans in congress wouldn't support the dream act that was supported by same repubs before. Oh it because obama and democrats for it.
Google Grover Norquist if you care to find out about the person and his lobby that is driving the Republicans off the right cliff. In order to stay in office, they have to sign a pledge to him or he will fund another candidate to defeat them. They have to sign away their right to govern in a responsible way. Mitt and Ryan have both signed the pledge. Grover is why Bush started two wars and Medicare part D without tax increases and still cut taxes twice. Now Mitt is promising another tax cut with no way to pay for it. He wants you to think you will get a few of the crumbs. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II all promised tax cuts to get elected. Read Ryan's tax plan, it is the same thing Mitt is promising. Earn Income Credit reduced, Child Care Credit gone, College Tax Credits gone, Pell Grants reduced. Medicaid cut 200 billion. And yet the middle class taxes will go down. Just the medicaid cuts alone will mean the states will have to raise taxes or cut services. Clue, state taxes are more regressive than Federal taxes, this means the middle class will make up the difference.
Tony Vilar is the LAST person that anyone should listen to... Ask how well Los Angeles is doing? Ask about our budget? Ask about how well he did at the Democratic convention. This person has lied repeatedly about his past, about his father. Even his own brother has come out and confirmed that the story of Tony's "past" is nothing but a lie. His latest proposition is to give illegals an "id" card so they can have a bank account. The only person that clearly doesn't understand the issues of illegal immigration is Tony Vilar...
You know what I find funny?
They do not even realize they are a Romney presidency from being in the same boat as the workers they complain about who come from Mexico.
You know what is even funnier?? People that don't consider illegals to be law breakers... These people spit in the face of those that come into this country legally, follow the process, pay the fees to our government, to their lawyers and these loons want to give them a free pass. What does that show to those that want to come here legally?
And the funniest thing of them all is they have been here for decades and the Republican party had many many years of complete control of the border yet did nothing...
I wonder why?? might have something to do with Money I will bet.
So the real truth is the Republicans sold all of us out a long long time ago.
Some people are just starting to realize this.......
You seem to forget about the deal that the Democrats refused to enforce with Reagan's amnesty in 1986. Could it be that the Democrats wanted to setup yet another wave of immigrants. And you yet you still didn't answer my question about giving illegals a different path to citizenship than legal immigrants...
The left would like you to believe that the Republicans are preaching anti-immigration. No one I have heard is against LEGAL immigration. There is a reason that the gates are not wide open to anyone and everyone who wants to come here...they never have been. What the left doesn't want to discuss is illegal entry and residence in this country...key word here is illegal. Over 80% of all illegals in this country are from latin countries - the majority being from Mexico. You can be sure if the latino voting block voted Republican rather than Democrat they would be preaching an entirely different message.
Amen.
Sarah Silverman tweeted, "Mitt Romney is one of the most progressive thinkers of 1950s.
Forward, not backward. Obama/Biden - 4 More Years!
Any person of color that would vote for Robme and Lyin' Ryan are either already well off or off their rocker.
Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:
• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
People actually voted for this piece of human excrement for mayor?
I guess you can fool most of the people most of the time.
Racist pigs like Villaraigosa and other communists from Latin America want LATINO ONLY immigration.
Why would anyone want a deadbeat race that can't even run their own countries to immigrate poverty to the US?
FORCE MEXICO to accept 50 million immigrants from the 125 countries that are poorer than Mexico.
Nothing against LEGAL IMMIGRATION, it is the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION that needs to stop.....
Q: Will MYTH Romney state his position on the Dream Act?
A: ???????????????????????
Some questions remain never answered.
Progress won? Progress won for WHO?! For illegal aliens? I can't believe a politician who is SUPPOSED to represent Americans can stand at a podium and say that coddling illegal immigrants is progress. We have record numbers today and food stamps and yet most of our roofers, tilers, landscapers, etc are all made up of illegal immigrants. I keep hearing that these are jobs Americans don't want. Well, geeze, if you pay me to sit home and not work, I'd rather do that than take a demanding job. But if we cut out the free lunch for everybody, Americans will eventually get hungry and start doing these jobs again. In the debate, Obama said he wants the "high skill, high paying" jobs. Well guess what? We have a lot of LOW SKILL Americans who just need a job to put food on the table. Roofing, framing, tiling, and landscaping ARE the kinds of jobs these Americans can (and should be) doing. If we crack down on the illegals, then the pay for these jobs will rise because of simple supply and demand....
Will Mayor "Wetbacks" expose all the money that has been stolen from LOYAL AMERICANS to feed his invaders?
Erin-2525364
if they did, they would have had a hystory of going after the companies that hire illegals. Wal-mart, for example, would have been a great start.And I'll bet you are a frequent customer at WalMart.
be a peach then, and quit your job. There are plenty of job opportunities picking fruits in FL for 5 bucks an hour with no benefiits, no OT, no labor laws AND in a 100 degree heat.
Or next time, OJ goes up, don't bitch that it's because of the Obama Administration.
Beverly in Chicago
Mitt's been running for some kind of office for 20 years now so don't hold your breath.
baylie Much like Obama's answers to what happened in Libya. The Administration has distorted the truth and it will come back to get him in November. When the truth about Libya comes out (and it is found out that they were incompetent or worse)and Obama is reelected both him and ole Joe will be impeached and then Boehner will be the President. Nice.
Pigotry starts the comments by changing the subject. No one is talking about limiting immigration for high tech jobs.
The issue is illegal immigration: the DREAM act specifically, which gives legal residency, essentially citizenship, to any illegal immigrant under 30 who can forge a few documents. Gee, that won't encourage more illegal immigration will it?
Immigration has been at around 1-2 million per year for 30 years. That's far higher than the historic average of 1/4 million. So the comment above about it being harder to immigrate here now, it's just plain false. We have the most (overly) generous immigration system in the world.
I'm looking forward to watching Obama getting another beatdown tonight. He will go 0/3 on debates. Tonight is Foreign Policy night....no where for the President to hide. Well, unless he throws Hillary under the bus again.
My question is, how many yes or no questions will he dodge, like he has in the past two debates? Mr. President, we are STILL waiting for you to answer the question regarding your Energy Secretary and his comments on energy prices.............
No issues with LEGAL immigration.....
And Mr Obama's orders to IGNORE the laws of the United States are just wrong....
Why didn't he handle the immigration issue during his first 100 days in office? Or during the first year in office? Why has he waited until immigration is nothing more than a political PAWN?
Immigrants, both legal or not, Barack Obama IS NOT your friend......
richard-1957365
you righties have a very selective way of thinking. You bitch about Libya info being put out there as it came but yet you don't bitch about the fact the the Bush Admin distorted info about the promised WMD which ended up to be lies, misinformation and distortion. On top of that you have 40+ intel memos prior to 9/11 warning about al Qaeda planning attacks which took years for to comeout.
BTW, both parents of the ambassador and the Navy SEAL support the Obama Admin and ask Romney to STFU. What does THAT tell you?
you people complaining about fox should watch the crap msnbc puts out. whats that you say you do watch msnbc and thats where you get your information. lol
Hmmm Democratic activists - code for Radical Left Wing Liberal/Progressive Wack Jobs. I wouldn't have expected anything less than lashing out by this race-baiter. The only progress Obama has made was to circumvent the law of the land. I can't wait for the investigations to take place after this clown it thrown out of the White House.
bayllie....still bringing up Bush?
The parents of the slain ambassador can ask for the son's death not to be brought up all day, but it is not going to happen. He was public official and now his death, like many private citizen's death, is in the news. And the fact of the matter is, it's not the ambassador's death, but the lack of security provided by the current administration that lead to his death and all the twisting the facts afterwards to save face..no, save an election, that are the issue.
"Republicans used to stand for something,” he said. “And now they just stand in the way."
That was the best phrasing I have seen so far. Truth.
Mike - I have worked alongside migrant workers. They picked ten times the olives I picked. It sounded like they were walking down the rows of trees. When I got down from my ladder, I was astonished to see lug boxes of fruit stacked six high and they were halfway down the row. I wasn't even finished with my first tree. I thought they had left because they were out of earshot.
American might take the same jobs, but the foreign workers would smoke them in performance. I know from experience, and I wouldn't hire a fat lazy American. I'd want the work completed.
" a Mitt Romney presidency would halt progress won under President Barack Obama"
Progress won??? Wow.
Clearly he thought he was speaking in Mexico. I would love to know how any legal American taxpaying citizen could consider a refusal to enforce border laws and protect American communities/jobs as "progress".
The establishment of borders and the capabilities to secure and defend them are how nations are built... their breakdown is followed by the collapse of the nation itself.
Mayor Viaretardo is the worst mayor ever... This guy has driven LA into BK and beyond recovery. Everytime a cat is saved from a tree by the fire dept. this clown shows up with a TV crew. And now only because he is hispanic the Dems are using him like a lettuce picker. The guy isn't very smart at all.
The scary thing is, he's being USED on a national level and he is probably thinking he could become president.
I'll say it again... This guy is the worst mayor ever.
Its pretty simple folks, if you want a socialist government controlled society then vote for obama, Vladameer Putin of Russia, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and the Castros of Cuba and oh yea I must not leave out the iranians, all are rooting for obama. They along with obama want to see America destroyed.
Vote for Romney/Ryan
What difference does it make if e-verify is mandatory? We have laws now making hiring illegals a crime...is it enforced? How many CEO are in jail for that one?
Damn man, will you get off it? Why don't you consider packing up your three cornered hat and move to Virginia. I hear they're planning violent insurrection when Obama is re-elected. Help us out by consolidating the target.
For many of the people posting here, back when many of your parents and grandparents emigrated, it was through Ellis Island or one of those immigration stations before or just after WWII. I've talked to my husband's grandfather, a Polish immigrant who came over just after WWI. Back then, in order to emigrate, you showed up with your paperwork, a list of your skills and what you could contribute to American society. If you knew someone already here, it helped, but it was not necessary.
Today, if you don't have an employer or close family member to sponsor you in, you can't come in. It's become all about 'who you know' rather than 'what you can contribute'.
It seems to me that a good chunk of our illegal immigration problems could be solved if we rescinded the rule that 'you can only come if you know someone already here.'
People sneak across the border and have a child on American soil, then sneak back across once the child is grown and wait for the child to sponsor them in just so they can have that 'close family tie' that will allow them to immigrate. Without this rule the incentive to have those 'anchor babies' won't be there, and it wouldn't involve having to repeal the Constitution's 14th amendment 'jus soli' rule.
A lot of people's frustration with immigration is the wait times--it can take up to 16 years to process paperwork for those who do enter legally, and I've heard people say as long as 20 years. Two decades. And what may be holding them up a lot of the time is Immigration trying to trace the relation between the sponsor and the applicant--in countries with poor or no record-keeping, countries who have suffered natural disasters, countries where the applicant is poor and/or elderly and there were no electronic records when they were born, conflict countries where coups are common and government changes frequently, or countries who don't have good relations with the US, tracing the relationship between applicant and sponsor can be difficult if not impossible, and also be time-consuming and costly.
Allowing immigration based on your skills worked. It helped the US become a world leader, a world power. We attracted the best and brightest, the innovators and thinkers, scientists and artists, all the greatest minds left in the shambles of Europe after WWI and as a result, we were the deciding factor in turning the tide of the war in WWII. The nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki that effectively ended WWII was built here in America by a multi-national team of scientists and engineers, and while the bomb wasn't one of the brightest moments in our history, the discovery and research of peacetime applications for nuclear technology have fueled our country (and planet) for the last half-century.
I guess my point is; the old way WORKED. The new way, people allowed in based solely on who you know instead of what you can contribute--doesn't. What do we have to lose from trying a return to what worked?
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Pigotry,
I believe you have a few things confused. Republicans are not anti-immigrant. So showing how important immigrants are/have been for this country is pretty idiotic/waste of time. Republicans are anti-illegal immigration. The Mayor of LA is all against Romney, well he kind of has to be, but think about his position. Don't you think it's somewhat ironic that LA is going (is) bankrupt, and one of the leading reasons for this is caring for illegals? Putting them through school, ER visits, uninsured car accidents, etc. With all of the unemployment in CA, there would be plenty of people filling the jobs that these illegal have stolen.
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Pigotry
Are you writing public commentary based on facts or opinion. How is it that many people become citizens every day yet no one refers to them. Why because like this ditsy mayor they only run off of rumors and are incredibly biased against the system that does not allow only people from Mexico. The ideology is good but please refer to the type of people Jefferson wanted to come to America and what he wanted them to do. Assimilate is the word, not bring their old countries problems here. General statements to get a sound bites are the liberal way but the only person to address this issue legally was a Republican named Reagan not Clinton or Obama.
Pig---
Americans (including this life-long Democrat) support LEGAL immigration--- we permit 1 Million LEGAL immigrants into our country ever year--- more than all others combined). What is unsustainable and unacceptable is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and the LAWBREAKING U.S. BUSINESS PROFITEERS which seek competitive advantage as against the law-abiders.
LA is bankrupt, and ILLEGAL immigration is a BIG REASON WHY--- LA County spends billions of dollars on welfare for ILLEGALS--- in fact, the LA County website reports that over 22% of Calworks recipients go to ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS in addition to BILLIONS in educational costs. It's completely unsustainable. Villaraigosa, who is a despicable and insufferable panderer (of the lowest form) will NEVER tell the truth and he will never support policies that are in the best interest of U.S. citizens or the interests of our country--- rather, he is busy spewing his disgusting brand of ethnic-pandering and intellectual dishonesty!
Democratic voters (many of whom will not be voting or Obama because of his support for immigration lawbreaking) want for our immigration laws to be enforced as well! A GOVERNMENT WHCIH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!
The jerk should stay in Los Angelesand work on balancing it's budget.
hs321
yes, isn't he still what the Republicans stand for?
THey are not asking everyone - just Romney. That should tell you something.
Mayor,
You are wasting your time, most of these mind have been brainwashed to the point of lunacy by the people at Fox and the right wind nut cases now controlling the republican party. I pray each night that God will enlighten these sick minds that are believing a man who says one thing to conservatives and another when he talks to the American voter. Shame on Romney and Lying Ryan and the fools who believe their tripe!
AngelicaS,
How about rich businesses that hire these illegals knowing it and don't report it? We have a foundry here where I live in Wisconsin and they have 5 men with the same name and same Social Security number. I guess Greed is more important than obeying the law and reporting them to the government so they can act rather than counting profits for greed! it is always easier to condemn the government rather than greedy businessmen and corporations who only think in terms of profit and paying these workers less than they would have to pay American workers. Oh, by the way! More illegals have been returned to Mexico under the Obama years so far than in all 8 Bushwacher years!
Clwyd--- did you see that I referenced specifically the "LAWBREAKING U.S. BUSINESS PROFITEERS" in my foregoing email?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION can only occur with the complicity of three groups: (1) the ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS who seek special treatment and for U.S. law not to apply to them, (2) the LAWBREAKING BUSINESS PROFITEERS, and (3) the permission (through inaction) of our elected representatives who either don't enforce the law or affirmatively pledge (like Obama) not to enforce the very laws they are duty-bound to enforce.
I am no fan of the dangerous and vile Bush. Also, there was no greater supporter of Obama in '08 than me. That said, I am profoundly disappointed. The Democrats have abandoned working class Americans through their pandering to immigration lawbreakers. While there is conflicting information about the numbers of deportees (whether Obama is counting those that he turns away from the border), the number he has deported is irrelevant (and I do not believe that the deportees will total in 2012 what they did in prior years). Further, I am aghast that Obama has pledged to grant-executive level de facto amnesty to young ILLEGALS (thus subverting U.S. law and circumventing Congressional enactments) and has also pledged not to deport ILLEGALS with anchor babies (thus confirming the validity of the concept of an "anchor baby"-- which, is now, in fact, having the effect of anchoring the parents to the U.S. under this pledge not to enforce our laws). The difference with Obama and his predecessors is that he has affirmatively pledged special treatment and not to enforce U.S. laws sans Congressional enactment. Reagan's 1986 amnesty (which was approved by Congress) was Exhibit #1 that proved that granting special treatment and amnesty to immigration lawbreakers only serves to incentivize exponentially more lawbreaking!
Mayor Villaraigosa is a Mexican trying to pass for American.
@ RepublicanforObama -
OMG that's not even close to the truth. You are wrong. To even believe that shows just how gullible you are. The rest of your post is just as much garbage too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Villaraigosa
If you look at the entire advanced western world, only the United States has been somewhat benefitting from new immigrants coming in. Everywhere else has experienced labor shortage and declining tax bases.
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As one major US newspaper editorial once commented - what if new immigrants no longer want to come any more, the US will be in for a lot of trouble.
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Reasons why new immigrants don't want to come? More countries are doing better economically in this globalized world, but the US has been in recession (made in america) and the US has seen declining opportunities.
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Also many Americans are notiously insensitive to minorities - all kinds of minorities -from gender, racial, religious, and country origin perspectives. Why will people come to the US to experience humiliation while more and more opportunities and even better rewards are now available in their home countries??????
Legal Immigration Yes. Illegal immigration no.
Illegal Immigration hurts legal immigration and sends those that want to come to the U.S. legally to the end of the line.
It's taking too long and it's too expensive to apply for legal immigration sometimes. And US businesses sometimes can't wait (W. Bush mentioned this in his memoir Decision Points) - the current immigration system has been broken for some time. But the GOP has refused to make the country better in the area of immigration policy (all it takes is a filibuster by a GOP buster in the senate). So why would some want to wait that long and pay that high a fee that they don't have, when it's cheaper for some to just walk right over. It's not that people want to be here illegally; sometimes the system doesn't work and there is no legal way - US immigration laws have failed too many.
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Besides, the US has been in a recession, the illegal border crossing has reduced to a trickle...more have gone home and been working on jobs outsourced by Mitt and other venture capitalists.
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The US is not only losing moral high ground, but also losing more jobs to foreign competitors.
Because of the strains on our legal and court systems and law enforcement constantly dealing with the millions of cases of illegal immigrants every year correct?
Like Obama's Aunt who was here illegally for 8 years and his Uncle who has been in the country illegally for 20 years...
Because its the Law and our country maybe? Your business arguement is nice. Yes enslave an entire class of people for cheaper tomatoes. I love you libs. LOL.
Obama promised when campaigning in 2008 that he would push for comprehensive immigration reform his first year in office.
In 2009 and 2010 he had super majorities in the House and Senate.
The Democrats had all the power for two years and didn't do anything.
We should Hope he will get around to it if He's reelected?
Fool me once shame on you, Full me twice shame on me.
@Pig
The issue is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, not legal immigration.
The issue is unfair imigration laws that would have kept the bulk of the ancestors of those who arrived here in the 18th, 19th, or early 20th century out of the country. If these sort of laws had been in place during this time, we would not have more people of Irish blood in the United States than in Ireland. We would not have large populations of Italian Americans, Eastern European Americans or Japanese or Chinese. What has made this country great is its immigrants, and now we want to shut the doors to certain groups. Take a trip to Ellis Island to see what being an American and what becoming an American is all about.
@Wayne-1656909
....Spot on. That's what I have been trying to tell people.
Thanks Pigotry. I think I will put you on my friends list!
The difference today is that they weren't coming to America to get Welfare, Free healthcare, free education for their children, etc all on the backs of American citizens.
They came here to Become Americans and make a better life for themselves, Learn English and became productive Americans.
When Illegal immigrants have been in the country for a decade or more and can't even speak English...
Legal immigrants are always welcome in the USA. Illegals are not welcome.
What new dot com or hi tech company has been formed by an illegal? The USA welcomes immigrants and foreign students. We need to find a sure waybforvthose gifted students tonstaybhere after graduation to work in our companies.
No, we do not welcome immigrants and foreign students. It is massively complicated and difficult.
This is exactly the attitude where the GOPTP are so out of touch with immigration. Immigrants come here for opportunity to work, and such is that drive, some stay here illegally to continue that opportunity.
Very few come here illegally for healthcare, it is more affordable in their home country. This is the only civilized industrial country that believes the price of healthcare is bankruptcy.
Fallacy of hasty generalization, stating that illegal immigrants of today are only coming over to mooch off the system, not create a better life for themselves as in generations past. your argument is invalid. The majority of illegals that i've interacted with tried very hard to be american. i worked in a factory where i was one of a few english speakers. All of them tried to learn the language, and when they knew you weren't going to make fun of them, and if i took the time to try and learn some spanish in order to better communicate, they were no different than any other immigrant.
To say that those of a prior generation were coming to america to find a better life while those of today are doing so just to mooch off the system is absurd. Many of these immigrants are fleeing the kind of tyranny we are supposed to oppose, drug cartels and warlords. i spoke with one who fled to the states because his family was shot down by cartel strongarms, and another who saw his brothers shot and thought he would be found. They only wanted to be able to find a home and live in peace while contributing to their community.
We would be much better off if people tried to understand the situations that drive people here by any method possible, instead of casting judgement from a false sense of superiority.
Whats wrong with them Staying in their own country and fixing the problems in their own country so they can make a better life in their own country?
You talk of compassion as if we should feel sorry for them. If you truely had compassion then shouldn't the goal be to fix their own country so they can be proud of their own country and Heritage instead of running away?
I have no compassion for people that run and hide from their problems causing problems for their neighbors.
In other words Noah, you are against immigrants and immigration, whether they be Canadian, Central American, Australian, European, South American, Eastern European. Rather than make nasty generalizations concerning their motives, just openly state you are against all non-Americans.
You mean like the Pilgrams did when fleeing England?
You mean like the "problems" caused to Native Americans?
Spin My meaning all you want.
I support Legal Immigration. Illegal immigration is a drain on our country, its citizens, and its resources, and disenfranchises those that want to come to this country legally.
No matter what there reason may be for coming here illegally they are breaking our laws which shows they have no respect for the U.S. or its citizens.
Yet, you here have no viable argument as to why they are a drain on this country.
Go ahead explain why they are a "drain" on this country.
#1 Public education cannot refuse to educate children even if they are here illigaly. That adds additional resources required for our schools to be able to educate children.
#2. Hospitals cannot refuse to treat a patient whether they are here illegally or not and the cost of treating those patients gets passed on to Legal citizens because we end up paying higher insurance premiums, etc.
#3 Employers that hire Illegal immigrants pay them less which drives down the pay for everyone else and reduces the amount of taxes collected, if any are collected at all, etc. Ask the construction workers how its affecting them.
#4 It costs us to pay for law enforcement, courts, etc. to incarcerate, charge, process etc. illegal immigrants.
If you don't think illegal immigration has a detrimental economic effect on the U.S. then maybe yo have blinders on.
I could give you countless articles but how about this one? How lives are being lost and costing one county, just one county, tens of thousands of dollars a year.
Now if you have compassion wouldn't you want people to stop dying in the desert, make sure our borders are secure, and the only way they can get into the U.S. is Legally and stop jumping the fence?
In other words eliminate anything that is an attraction for them to come here illegally such as E-Verify, No Birthright citizenship, no Hope of getting amnesty some day if yo can just get here and stay in the shadows until some Administration Gives them Amnesty, etc.
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/09/14300178-deadly-crossing-death-toll-rises-among-those-desperate-for-the-american-dream?lite
Yeah lets just put up Big Fences and shoot people sounds like a real good plan......
I think your figures there are missing a few things that they do for you.
Personally stop treating them like crap and start being legit with them at least then they would get paid fairly for the kinds of jobs they do.
I know that might increase prices in some area's and decrease profits, but its the right thing to do.
Will Mayor Villaraigosa apologize for Mexican soldiers MURDERING American immigrants in Texas 1836?
Will Mayor "Wetbacks" expose all the funds that have been stolen from poor Americans?
A comment was made earlier regarding legal vs illegal immigration
So, since it's obviously impossible for anyone to enter our country illegally, we should just throw open the doors and allow anyone in....is that it?
Show me the numbers....prove what you are saying.....or is this more drivel coming from someone who cares more about the (D) or (R) following someones name than what they can actually accomplish?
so we dumbed down our schools so more people and illegals could pass with ease and now we have to worry about having to look else where for intelligent people what a surprise
hey chowching if you are smart enough to post on here you already know why illegals are a drain you must be one of the people that took advantage of our worthless public schools wow what some will post on here
Thanks mayor. He couldn't have done a better job of highlighting how low Democrats have sunk.
During his speech, he called the election a decision on the country's "fundamental direction."
You do realize that poll after poll shows that 3/4 of Americans know the country is heading in the WRONG direction, right?
"What people don't realize about those first two years with Nancy Pelosi and Democratic majority in the House and Senate, and President Obama," he said, "it actually was the most productive congress since the Johnson administration."
What he doesn't realize is that Americans DID understand... and that is why Democrats lost big in the largest congressional party-flip since WWII.
Here's a great idea for an instant Green Card. Pass a verbal English exam and score 130+ on
an IQ test. Everybody else can self deport.
@Redev.... The IRS handed out 7 billion to illegals becuase of child credits... not much to you eh?
See this clip from an AP article:
An official Immigration and Customs Enforcement database, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, showed a U.S. detainee population of exactly 32,000 on the evening of Jan. 25.
The data show that 18,690 immigrants had no criminal conviction, not even for illegal entry or low-level crimes like trespassing. More than 400 of those with no criminal record had been incarcerated for at least a year. A dozen had been held for three years or more; one man from China had been locked up for more than five years. Nearly 10,000 had been in custody longer than 31 days -- the average detention stay that ICE cites as evidence of its effective detention management.
Based on a 2001 ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court, ICE has about six months to deport or release immigrants after their case is decided. But immigration lawyers say that deadline is routinely missed. In the system snapshot provided to the AP, 950 people were in that category.
Immigration lawyers note that substantial numbers of detainees, from 177 countries in the data provided, are not illegal immigrants at all. Many of the longest-term non-criminal detainees are asylum seekers fighting to stay here because they fear being killed in their home country. Others are longtime residents who may be eligible to stay under other criteria, or whose applications for permanent residency were lost or mishandled, the lawyers say.
Since 2003, Congress has doubled to $1.7 billion the amount dedicated to imprisoning immigrants. Based on the amount budgeted for this fiscal year, U.S. taxpayers will pay about $141 a night -- the equivalent of a decent hotel room -- for each immigrant detained, even though paroling them on ankle monitors -- at a budgeted average daily cost of $13 -- has an almost perfect compliance rate, according to ICE's own stats.
A system that housed 6,785 immigrants in 1994 now holds nearly five times that amount in 260 facilities across the country, most under contract with local governments or private companies. For this fiscal year, ICE has enough money budgeted for 33,400 people on any given night.
Now pay attention to that phrase 'under contract'.
$141 per person per night per year=$51,465 per year
That's how much Homeland Security asks Congress each year to detain one person. Then you look at the private, for-profit prison industry,which is contracted to warehouse that person until Homeland Security makes a determination to let them stay or deport, for between $40-$98 per person per night. That's between $14,600-$35,770 per year. Homeland Security gets to keep the remaining $36,865 - $15,695 per year, adding it to their budget--that's partly how they went from an operating budget of $49 million in 2002 to their current operating budget of (reportedly) $98 billion last year.
But with that $98 billion a year, they've poured funding into making our country safer. They have drones on the border providing surveillance for between 4 and 10 square miles now, far more area than five CBP personnel could patrol on the ground.
They've purchased the military's Through-Wall Imaging technology that will allow those drones to see through walls and into houses. Those houses could be drop houses for coyotes or stash houses for illegal drugs and weapons.
They've funded and developed portable DNA analyzers that will return results in ninety seconds, so that if someone coming in at a border checkpoint has DNA that matches someone already here they can investigate to make sure that the one already here IS legal; local police forces would also be able to arrest someone much quicker with these portable analyzers and not have to wait for a lab result which currently can take days to even weeks.
They've also invested in the development of very sophisticated behavior assessment screening technology (currently being tested at Boston airport) that will predict whether a person will commit a crime or terrorist act based on info from medical scanners measuring abnormal respiration, pulse, perspiration, heartbeat--anyone out of breath with shifting eyes who is sweating can be pulled aside and questioned as to their intentions. All of these things are going toward keeping the country safe.
The private prison industry is booming--they have experienced steady growth throughout the recession, hiring people for guard jobs, security jobs, administrative jobs; the construction of these deportation camps can be as simple as a tent on a concrete pad that will hold 200 people, or as complex as regular facilities with the traditional concrete cells, fences and barbed wire. Many of these private prisons are in the South, and whole towns have been saved by the jobs and revenue created from the necessity of holding people in these deportation camps.
The private prison will then pour money into lobbyists who wine and dine Congressmen who pass laws allowing more deportation camps to be built and to widen the pool of possible detainees--they are now working on getting a bill passed that would allow the government to strip citizenship from anyone suspected of terrorism (Enemy Expatriation Act). So yes, the flood of illegals has been helping make our country safer and been a boost to the economy in certain areas.
Pig---
Americans (including this life-long Democrat) support LEGAL immigration--- we permit 1 Million LEGAL immigrants into our country ever year--- more than all others combined). What is unsustainable and unacceptable is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and the LAWBREAKING U.S. BUSINESS PROFITEERS which seek competitive advantage as against the law-abiders.
LA is bankrupt, and ILLEGAL immigration is a BIG REASON WHY--- LA County spends billions of dollars on welfare for ILLEGALS--- in fact, the LA County website reports that over 22% of Calworks recipients are ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS in addition to BILLIONS in educational costs. It's completely unsustainable. Villaraigosa, who is a despicable and insufferable panderer (of the lowest form) will NEVER tell the truth and he will never support policies that are in the best interest of U.S. citizens or the interests of our country--- rather, he is busy spewing his disgusting brand of ethnic-pandering and intellectual dishonesty!
Democratic voters (many of whom will not be voting or Obama because of his support for immigration lawbreaking) want for our immigration laws to be enforced as well! A GOVERNMENT WHCIH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!
Hey Mayor -
Go F**k yourself !!!!
Half of this great country thinks you're an A**HOLE !!!
RCM,
The other half probably feels the same way about you.
Wow, such intelligence. Show some respect for at least the office he holds. I do see the mayor as an opportunist however he does have some valid points on the republican party. I don't recognize them either and its why I left the GOP for the Independents 2 years ago.
Tony Villar is a total douchbag. He would show up to a colonoscopy if it would get him on camera. The man has no idea how to represent the citizens of this County/State/Country. He is a complete embarrassment and failure.
Hey, he thinks that Pelosi and Reid are great, did the best job ever in Congress, gotta give him credit...for being an imbecile.
From the article above ...
It seems to me that this Mayor knows this country and is seeking change.
Obama/Biden 2012
Well, the country is indeed seeking change...from the last four years.
Whatever the he!! you said, mygirl1 ... I've had you and your sick sorry posts on ignore since I read the first one.
Obama/Biden 2012
The GOP is not against immigrants, it's the illegal immigrants they have a problem with. Some people are too stupid to know the difference.
Right on RCM:
I'm almost to the point of giving Cali back to the Beanners, It's costing the rest of the country to much $$ and as a bonus we'll even throw in Nancy Pelosi and the wacko Hollywood crowd.
gdale its hard to have respect for the office when the people that hold the office screws up or takes advantage of the position to increase his or hers own wealth which thats pretty much all i see in politics cause its sure not for the people anymore
The racists evidently thought this was the time and place to vent their ignorance. It is not. Clean up these forums, mods. Here is where you are going to find the nazis and skinheads masquerading as baggers.
starder - And liberals masquerading as Americans.
Layton: Aww, please, continue to ignore me, oh, and really, seriously, ignore me, posting to me is hardly what I would define as ignore.
Zheng, the Repubs are entirely two-faced on immigration--tolerating the importation of cheap labor by their wealthy patrons while wooing the blue-collar xenophobe vote with slogans about Border Security and Enforcing Our Laws.
There are problems around legal immigration to the USA, too. That's why we have laws to limit it. 310 million is our current population. Many think that number is already too many and very few would be comfortable in an America of 600 million or even 500 million.
...this from a guy whose city and state are being flushed down the crapper because of illegal immigrants (people who have entered the country without benefit of inspection)! i have no problem with legal immigrants (those who played the game and waited in line to enter). my grandfather was a legal immigrant, and i suspect that most other people are the descendants of immigrants, without going back to the mayflower.
Yo, fire .. did you read the article or did you just start shooting burning embers out your a$$ with your illegal immigrant crap. Villaraigosa is talking about the GOPTP complete failure at handling legal immigration. FYI, the city and the state are not flushed down the crapper because of illegal immigration. It is the tightwad TPGOP and has completely effed up the state. Thankfully they are leaving the state in droves, going to Arizona, and Arizona is the state completely in the dumps dealing with those ugly TPGOP immigrants.
Wow now that's funny. The GOP in CA has been in the minority for years.
What you really meant to say was the Democrats in CA spent the state into oblivion. The Democrats chased out their tax base What you meant to say was the Democrats squandered CA's money because they never met a dime they didn't spend. But as bad as that is, they maxed out their credit cards and then got more credit cards to max out and like everyone who can't control their spending they had nothing left to get them through tough times.
Republicans in CA aren't responsible for the shape CA is in. That responsibility falls squarely in the Democrat's shoulders. Yet people like you gobble their @!$%# hook line and sinker again and again and again and blame those with by far the least amount of power in the state. No wonder CA's finances are in the crapper.
Who ruled CA prior to Brown??? Oh it was Arnold and guess what he was a republican. Both parties have had a hand in screwing up Cal.
LOL republicans in CA aren't republicans... Besides, Arnold may have been Governor, but who was the majority in the state government?
I work with several legal immigrants and they hate illegal aliens!!! The people who have entered this country legally have a right to be here. The folks who entered illegally do not!!! When will our leaders wake up and enforce the law?
Wasn't Villaraigosa the chairman at the Democratic National convention when they had the votes to add God and Israel back in their platform?
They held the vote once and didn't get the result they wanted.
Had a second vote and were still shocked when they didn't get the result they wanted.
Had a third vote and when they still didn't get the result they wanted Villaraigosa declared it Passed.
He is a fine example of what we can expect with Democrats in Power. Ignore the will of the people and pass what they want passed. If they cant pass it then do it through regulation and Presidential Fiat.
The exact same thing they did to get the PPACA bill passed against the will of the people.
I see Republicans are a fan of forcing their religion onto others, yet it is worse when a Democrat does it?
The hypocrisy of this mutated GOP is ridiculous.
david when i watched the vote you reference i thought the same thing and laughed till the next mourn and the dems think thats s.o.p. we are really going communistic with the dems in offices today hope you live through it
The right whiners are getting testier by the hour as the election draws near. The so-called liberal press hardly ever covers Obama surrogates, so I am frankly pleased to see this post.
The truth is that Romney is going to lose Hispanic voters by large margins; if the woman voter gap reappears, then Obama will finish strong.
He needs to avoid gaffes tomorrow--Bob Schaeffer will not let either candidate off easy with pat answers.
Fancy This Too writes ...Romney is going to lose Hispanic voters by large margins
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The Republicans don't have to get this low Latino support. Actually GOP could have got more Latino votes...George W. Bush got more support, even McCain got some more than Mitt's. Imagine, it could have been easier to get support from Latinos, many of whom are pro-life - (leaning right on the abortion issue). Even Reagan agreed to amnesty - the last time it's done.
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But unfortunately, the GOP all of a sudden lost it - so irrationally anti-immigrants and discriminatory, pushing Latinos into the DEM camp.
You cant lose something you never had to begin with. Hispanics have never been a strong voting block for Republicans.
I do like how, Here again, the Democrats belittle Hispanics tino single issue voters as if nothing affects them accept Immigration.
Hispanics aren't effected by High gas prices, High unemployment, rising health care costs, etc?
Why aren't you upset that every one makes a huge deal over thousands of people killed in Libya, Syria, etc and Yet 47,000+ Hispanics have been killed in Mexico drug war becasue of the U.S. inability and failure to secure our border and enforce our immigration laws?
Hispanics generally hold an issue close to them that involves a friend, niece, child, relative, being deported for simply being here.
Don't you mean being here Illigally?
If there here legally then they have nothing to fear do they?
So that is the reason those COWARDS didn't fight Germany in WORLD War1, or Nazi Germany in WORLD War 2, or join UNITED NATIONS troops to fight North Korea during the Korean War.
Wow, Pigotry changes the subject again. The issue isn't immigrants wanting to come here and start the next Google.
The problem is illegal immigrants flooding in and taking lower wage jobs from legal immigrants and minorities, overpopulating cities and causing a lot of problems. Tradesmen have been pushed out of business because 1st-generation illegals living 4 families to a house and feeding the kids with foodstamps and going to the emergency room when they get sick can do drywall, framing, tiling, you name it, for 1/4 the wage. They don't do a very good job usually but enough to get by.
Of course they're not paying taxes, workman's comp, health insurance, or any of the other things that keep the system operating. Eventually the whole Ponzi scheme falls apart (and probably so does your house). But the owners of Tyson Chicken, Marriot, and some homebuilders get rich. Some richer folks get cheap landscaping and housecleaning for a while. But it's not a sustainable or healthy system.
Move to the southwest, or even parts of the southeast, to experience the issue firsthand if you like.
pigo reagan agreed to amnesty on conditions from the dems that the boarder would be closed for good and protected against illegal entry and then the dems did as normal say anything to get their way and fell flat on their part or the reagan amnesty would not have happened see what happens when you listen to sound bites only
"Self-deportation", anyone?
Obama/Biden 2012
Yes, it would be great if Obama/Biden self-deported, but att least Americans get to deport them out of the White house next month.
hey tony villar!!!!!.... (villaraigoas's real name)......there is a huge difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration......obama hasn't done jack shiat about the immigration problem but now he is pandering to the latinos who he must believe are really stupid....villar and his cronies are ruining los angeles and california....
I remember back in 2008 when Romney said he wanted to round up all 12 million and send them back to Mexico. This reminded me NAZI Germany in late 30's and early 40's. If you hate people of color than Mitt is your man he is all about White Power and the Master Race Concept.
I suggest you prove it. If your going to proclaim Romney a racist you better be able to prove it otherwise you have committed LIBEL.
I think of Romney more like Richard Nixon although at times that temper reveals a Dark Side.
Actually....Capt.Smash isn't too far wrong about Mr.Romney, the Mormon church believes that only"people of pure, white skin" will achieve their kingdom in heaven.The Church only changed it's policy on "allowing" people of color to hold the "priesthood", as a publicity measure. Because they were getting soooo much bad press, and were being accused pf predjudice, the "Prophet" had a "REVELATION". How's that for trying to offset bad publicity. If you think I'm full of it, Google it, it was a fairly recent event,happened in the mid to late 80's, as I recall. And when I said achieve "their kingdom in heaven"it wasn't a typo, Mormons believe that when they die that they will become gods, and rule over their own kingdoms. Do yourselves a little favor, go to Amazon.com and look for a book that I think you will find VERY enlightening, it"s called "THE GOD MAKERS". You should ALL read it, it will give you a unique look into the Church, and it's practices, practices that Mr. Romney swore a "BLOOD OATH" to uphold! If that doesn't scare the living "s--t, out of you it should! And before anyone tries to accuse me of libel, I am a former Mormon, and I know what I'm talking about.
It scares me a little, I have read some on the Mormon faith, it is a little bit out there. The thing with Mitt, he has said his faith 100% defines him. Is he going to be able to separate that part of himself from the presidency?
well if obama followed his true religion he would have to kill us infidels so lets get religion out of the posts
capt smashed - "This reminded me NAZI Germany in late 30's and early 40's."
You don't have a clue about history do you? Please tell us what nation was spewing 10's of million of people into Germany ILLEGALLY? And when did Germany decide to finally begin enforcing their border and send them back to their home country?
The willingness of Liberals to make such ridiculous and juvenile attempts to attach such completely unrelated events to one another, and to do so to support NOT enforcing U.S. laws, shows just how strong their anti-American feeling are.
40 years ago there would have been no Hispanic mayor of L.A......I think the Hispanics have done pretty well.
Greed is not a virtue
The United States of America is being invaded and taken over without firing a shot. Since when was America a nation of racial numbers? Only American taxpayers should have the right to vote....and only taxpayers.
So you are against the Constitution. You must be a TPGOP fascist.
louie -
Since Obama started pandering to each and every racial group...
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...Except caucasians.
The only caucasians Obama doesn't pander to are the racist ones. What would be the point, they would just lynch him.
redDev - "So you are against the Constitution. You must be a TPGOP fascist."
Thanks for the laziest and most childish, hate-filled liberal post today.
You do know that constitution specifies that only American citizens can vote in American elections right? and only one party is against voters having an I.D. ...Democrats.
Remember Mormons think people of color are Evil I live in Salt Lake City I see it everyday!
Please get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself Smash. Your information on Mormons is incorrect. (and no, I'm not a Mormon) You have to love people that put falsehoods out there to sound important. Sounds like nearly all of our politicians.
I would drive the 12 million to the border personally as well to get the criminals out of here and back where they belong (and I don't care what border it is).
Smash is full of religious bigotry...Fact is, Mormons are helping to elect Mia Love to Congress!
Only because she is a Republican .. if she were Democrat, she would have been driven from the state the night she announced her candidacy.
Really? So only black republicans are allowed to live in Utah? Fancy that. Guess you speak for all the state in that definitive statement. Imagine all the folks in Utah are gratified in having you as their spokesperson.
Capt. Smash ...
They do tend to embrace their own. Male, pale, and stale, is the Republican mantra in Utah. And yes, I live here as well. Mia Love was picked up by the RNC as an up-comer ... female, black, and totally in love with the Tea Party. She has been a mayor for one of the smallest cities in Utah. But because of her ethnicity and gender, the Tea Party is making her a big deal. The Tea Party and Utah are really not friends (for those that have a brain and think and remember!). Bob Bennett was actually a fairly good senator. The Tea Party thought he was not conservative enough and pumped a LOT of money into this state to get him voted out. They won that one.
The Tea Party movement does not care one iota for this country. They care only about themselves and their agenda. Going to go all Christian on you now ... God wants us to love and care for our fellow man. To give up our possessions and follow Him. The Tea Party is assuming that they are a religion and while trying to embrace Christian Judea concepts, they fail to remind those they are preaching to that they only want what they think is best. Not what is good for the country. Not what is good for Christians. They want what is best for their bat @!$%# crazy members, i.e., Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, etc.
Vote wisely.
Obama/Biden 2012
yea h just like obama thinks white people is the devil........
Hard to believe any politician coming out of the disaster that is California will be taken seriously....
No doubt if Obama is reelected the California Democrats who looted the state treasury for the union masters, will come hat in hand for federal bailouts...
Villaraigosa is a "former" Mechista (M.E.C.ha.). He only renounced his affiliation to these Seditionists when his political career became jeopardized by it. He's a key player in the cess pool that (So)Cal as turned into." A leopard doesn't change spots overnight."He has always been for illegal Mexicans here... they'll provide a political base for his "rise" to leadership in the "Bronze" nation of Atzlan. He's just waiting his turn.He's nothing more than a traitor hiding behind our political system.
as is obama
As was the entire us for decades.....republicans have had control of major borders in AZ and Texas and Calif for decades and have ignored the problem.
Why? let me spell it out for you.... MONEY.
A communist by any other name.............Mayor "Wetbacks" is a racist pig.
KEEP them out, use any method that works, to include electrified barrier fence and anti personnel mines.
Yeah! White Power
Captain Smash seems to be a mite 'smashed.'
Republicans know the values OF MEXICANS.JUST ASK THEM..
I would hope its zero, since they aren't elected by Mexicans and don't represent Mexican interests.
Too bad Democrats forgot the value of AMERICANS.
IF YOUR A MEXICAN...why in hell would you vote for republicans.
Elvis not to worry, I am sure all the Mexicans here illegally will vote for Obama.
elvis - "IF YOUR A MEXICAN...why in hell would you vote for republicans."
No doubt.... it is AMERICANS who vote for Republicans, as that is the country they represent and whose taxpayers they are elected by.
If you support Mexico, by all means vote Democrat as that is clearly who they are beholden to.
Oh my bad..Texas
California sounds like a good place for all illegal alien invaders to go.
Republican opposition to the DREAM act, which would provide a path to citizenship for children who moved to the United States illegally as children, and which Romney said Republicans say is a "handout."
You can tell a Republican did not write these words!!
The Statue of Liberty!!
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
America the door to FREEDOM!!
How many illegal Mexicans know what Ellis Island is ? It does not say send your next generation because your country is a corrupt cesspool and you heard someone would allow you to have five children and feed them. Nice arguement though, yes it says send me your people so we can have cheap produce. By the way if we make all these people legal you think they are going to work for the same low wages ? You have no valid arguements. A Republican did write the Emancipitation Speech though. Good talk.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION! That was ELise Isle.
Great, now we have someone spouting away about the Statue of Liberty. Newsflash, that was written at a time when boatloads of immigrants were coming here and, another newsflash, they came here legally. There was also this thing, those people weren't given all the social benefits that illegals enjoy today primarily because those things didn't exist at that time.
If illegals want to live here and not take one dime from the welfare, fine. If illegals really wanted to be here they would have gotten visas.
Chris-6430585 ...
Wow. So this country is now only accepting illegal Mexicans? And the Dream Act is ONLY directed towards them and "cheap produce?" Why don't you send your family out into a field to harvest it rather than sitting in your big fat Lazy Boy and making comments. I, as a progressive, liberal honor the fact that many men and women come up from Mexico to harvest our crops and send their monies home. So many Americans are too damn lazy and feel so entitled that they think they are above hard work for a day's pay. My great grandfather who worked with the CCC would so have jumped at that chance to feed his family. Entitled??? Hell yes, if you're a Republican. Strong work ethic and love for country ... Democrat.
Obama/Biden 2012
oh aj dont be so silly that means come here through the proper channels and legally sheesh
Hey Layton, the VAST majority of illegals are Mexican. You can try to hide by saying everyone is a racist all you want. Towns and cities are being overrun. You still didn't offer a solution though. My family does not work out inn the fields I and other members of my family have gone to school and even served in our armed forces, I have a couple of scars from Iraq myself. The Dream Act has been hijacked its no longer for students, now basically anyone qualifies. This is not immigration its a take over attempt. Look at all our border communities over run EVERYTHING. You want too come here I do not think it is to much to ask to check in correctly. Hard work never hurt anyone the fields arguement way overrated. I will gladly pay more for my produce if it means I can continue to speak English in my MY country. Yes your last line about Dems was great, here is mine. Republicans Entitled no Earn it yes and your love of contry statement I will not even get into that I know I have earned my rights smart guy.
Where does it say give free healthcare, education, food stamps, bank accounts etc to the Mexicans??
I guess Mayor Antonio de Padua María Severino López de Santa Anna Antonio Villaraigosa didn't read the fine print about actually doing hard work to get ahead instead of leeching off of poor Americans.
OK ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT THINK YOU KNOW MORMONS HERE YOU GO: JUST READ
In the public forum section a few weeks ago these are some
of the comments from past Mormon Church Leaders. Someone needs to ask Mitt Romney will he
take his former church leaders views on African Americans and people of color into
the White House. These comments
listed below are the LDS church leadership views on Black People and people of
color in the past. I am African American
use to Mormon but I no longer practice LDS faith. It really hurts to know the LDS Church
thinks this garbage was ok. If Mitt Romney is elected are these the type of
views he will put forth in his administration.
There are big issues here, like Civil Rights, Immigration, Health Care
and Poverty. If someone from the Taliban or al-Qaida were running for president
don’t we have a right to question there beliefs? Give me a break, I can’t believe anyone
things that your belief system does not effect your decision making process.
The LDS Leadership should apologize to all African Americans and
people of color for the misguided policy on this issue. Don’t get me wrong love
my Mormon brother and sisters, even though they have strong feelings against
African American people. They have been taught all there lives that
black people were inferior and they should not be apart of our pure white
leadership. It’s ok, and someday they will learn the true meaning of the word
brotherhood. By the way I am African American and Black as hell and very proud
God made me this way. However, I am no way a descendant of Cain. I thought we
were supposed to be judge for our own sins according to the articles of faith.
In the Bible I never seen the word Black mentioned in that passage or did I
miss something. You know if you really
look around God loves variety you see it in every thing that was created. The trees, flowers, mountains and in human beings I think it would horrible if every one was white or the trees were all
the same. Thank God for all the differences in every living thing on this
earth.
Therefore, I urge all people of color and any other freedom loving
Americans, not to support Mitt Romney for president of the United States of America. We need some who will serve, protect and defend the constitution of United
States and Civil Rights. Mitt was raised in a time when he was taught by
his church leaders to discriminate and secure total white supremacy among the
LDS faithful. I can not support or trust anyone who does not look out for the rights of all the American people.
"Now WE ARE GENEROUS WITH THE NEGRO. WE ARE WILLING
that the Negro have the highest kind of education. I WOULD BE WILLING to LET
every Negro DRIVE
A CADILLAC IF THEY COULD AFFORD IT. I WOULD BE WILLING that they have all the
advantages they can get out of life in the world. BUT LET THEM ENJOY THESE
THINGS AMONG THEMSELVES." LDS "Apostle" Mark E. Petersen,
"Race Problems - As They Affect the Church," Address delivered at Brigham Young University,
August 27, 1954,
as quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner's book entitled, "The Changing World
of Mormonism," p. 307, emphasis added.
LDS - "Those
who were LESS VALIANT IN PRE-EXISTENCE and who thereby had certain spiritual
restrictions imposed upon them during mortality are known to us as the
NEGROES." LDS "Apostle" Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.
527, 1966 edition, emphasis added.
LDS - "THE
NEGROES ARE NOT EQUAL WITH OTHER RACES where the receipt of certain spiritual
blessings are concerned, ...but this inequality is not of man's origin. IT IS
THE LORD'S DOING, is based on his eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the
LACK OF SPIRITUAL VALIANCE OF THOSE CONCERNED IN THEIR FIRST ESTATE [the Mormon
pre-existence]." LDS "Apostle" Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon
Doctrine, p. 527 - 528, 1966 edition, emphasis added.
LDS -
"...[T]hrough their INDIFFERENCE or LACK OF INTEGRITY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS,
[blacks] rendered themselves UNWORTHY of the Priesthood and its
powers...." LDS "Historian" B. H. Roberts, The Contributor, vol.
6, pp. 296-297, as quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner's book entitled "The
Changing World of Mormonism," p. 293, emphasis added.
LDS - "Is
there reason then why the type of birth we receive in this life is not A
REFLECTION OF OUR WORTHINESS or LACK OF IT IN THE PRE-EXISTENT LIFE? ...[C]an
we account in any other way for the birth of some of the children of God in
DARKEST AFRICA, or in FLOOD-RIDDEN CHINA, or among the STARVING HORDES OF
INDIA, while some of the rest of us are born here in the United States?
We cannot escape the conclusion that BECAUSE OF PERFORMANCE IN OUR
PRE-EXISTENCE some of us are born as CHINESE, some as JAPANESE, some as
Latter-day Saints. ...A CHINESE, BORN IN CHINA WITH A DARK SKIN, and with
all the HANDICAPS OF THAT RACE seems to have little opportunity. But think of the
mercy of God to Chinese people who are willing to accept the gospel. IN SPITE
OF WHATEVER THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE IN THE PRE-EXISTENCE TO JUSTIFY BEING BORN
OVER THERE AS CHINAMEN, if they now, in this life accept the gospel and live it
the rest of their lives they can have the Priesthood, go to the temple and
receive endowments and sealings, and that means they can have exaltation. Isn't
the mercy of God marvelous? Think of the Negro, cursed as to the priesthood....
THIS NEGRO, WHO, IN THE PRE-EXISTENCE LIVED THE TYPE OF LIFE WHICH JUSTIFIED
THE LORD IN SENDING HIM TO EARTH IN THE LINEAGE OF CAIN WITH A BLACK SKIN, AND
POSSIBLY BEING BORN IN DARKEST AFRICA.... IN SPITE OF ALL HE DID IN THE
PRE-EXISTENT LIFE, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with
real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of
baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. IF THAT NEGRO IS FAITHFUL ALL HIS DAYS,
he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. HE WILL GO THERE AS A SERVANT, but
he will get celestial glory." LDS "Apostle" Mark E. Petersen,
"Race Problems - As They Affect the Church," Address delivered at Brigham Young University,
Provo, Utah,
August 27, 1954,
as quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner's book entitled "The Changing World
of Mormonism," p. 294. Note: Allegedly, even "if that Negro is
faithful all his days," he will never achieve equality with his
"white and delightsome" Mormon brethren. Instead he allegedly will go
to the celestial kingdom "AS A SERVANT!"
Do you have any point to your rant?
Captain Smash is the kind of guy who would have trashed JFK because he was a....Gasp....Catholic. Now, Smash, lil' buddy, let us have the inside skinny on Islam, fill us in on that since you're so opposed to Mormons now. PS: If Obama were Mormon, would you hate mormons?
If you look what Villaraigosa did to city of LA, and compare that to what he says, why would anyone want to listen to him? Did anyone listen to the "WONDERFUL" job he did as the Chairman of Democratic Convention. The city of LA was laughing.
illegal is still illegal it is a crime. Obama is a traitor as he took an oath to follow the law of the USA and he has not he just over rides them just like in California. we are destroying America from within by allowing people to break the law and be proud of it. deport all who declare that they are here illegal. it is the law. Don,t said we are breaking up family you could say the same thing by sending a person to jail it they robed a bank, it is a choice to break the law. deport all illegal
desertgranny - pull out the granny-glasses and re-read the article. It is about immigration overall, not illegal immigration.
No, the issue is in fact illegal immigration. Simply because the "illegal" part is not included, does not make it an article, or issue of "immigration." There has been no opposition to legal immigration by any Pol, just an intentional omission of "illegal."Subscribing to the notion that "if you tell a lie often enough, it will become truth" doesn't fly. Villaraigosa is intentionally omitting "illegal" as well...for his own political agenda. Try honesty...it's contagious.
Illegally entering this country is not a CRIME!! Immigration law is administrative law, not criminal law.
Tell that to Hitler..........It's called an ACT OF WAR when Mexicans steal US resources and evade capture.
Since Mexico has conspired with those people to violate the sovereignty of the US, it is definately AN ACT OF WAR!
Sometimes: Not to bust your bubble here, but illegally entering the country is indeed a crime.
Hey Capt Smash who wrote the Emanciptation Speech was he a Dem? Question I see a lot of comments about jobs Americans will not due. If we make all these illegals, legal are they going to continue to be our slaves? Throwing racism around is easy, supporting your arguement thats a little harder.
A. Lincoln was a Republican.
Sometimes...
How about doing some credible research?
Title 8 Section 1325 United States Code "Improper Entry by Alien" ....
a federal crime.
Read it, and realize that it is in fact a LAW of the U.S., that is punishable CRIMINALLY.
Salt Lake City 2010 census
Who does?
I'd love to hear from the African American Utah residents before I say crap I know something about. Wait wasn't there a Black Female speaker at the Republican Convention? I do believe there was. You could not see it on NBC because they banned airing all minority speakers because they though it would be racist to do so. Her Name is Mia Love and she's running for congress and beating a white guy.
Wow, such acceptance. Why, look at how Blacks are just flocking to the state of Utah. They must be happy to finally have the token Mia Love running for political office. If Love were not a Republican, she wouldn't have a chance in hell. She'd be known as the 3-strike candidate; female, Black, Democrat.
Mia Love is a candidate that ONLY has the Tea Party behind her. The rest of this state doesn't give a rat's ass about the color or her skin or her gender. She demonstrates the qualities of the current GOP ... lie, cheat, and lie some more .....
Yes I live in Utah. And yes, Jim Matheson (a true republican dressed in democratic clothes) should prevail.
Obama/Biden 2012
Gosh, so when a black person doesn't follow the democrat model, they are Uncle Toms, Oreos and now...tada...Tea party followers. So only black ghetto folks voting democrat are allowed to have any political opinions? You do know you're being racist, don't you>?
What Layton said IS NOT RACIST, do YOU even KNOW who Mia Love IS? Or are you attacking just to attack?I also live in Utah, and Ms. Love has got to be the most EXTREME woman I've EVER SEEN! She also happens to be an.....IMMIGRANT. Her family came here from Haiti when she was a girl. And furthermore, Utah is NOT friendly to "people of color", see my post #9.3 for a little enlightenment, the ONLY reason that Ms. Love is being run for Congress is, because SHE IS A REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY MEMBER. In my own district Rep. Bob Bennet was "gotten rid of" because he was "too moderate" so now we're stuck with that A-- Jason Chaffetz. And he is a Tea Party "DARLING"... PUKE!!!!!
It is accepted that Hispanic/Latino is not a race but a category created by the enemies of the people of the United States. Just like NAZI.
Liberals put their racism under a magnifying lens with their insults and threats to Stacy Dash (black woman) when she said she supported Mitt Romney.
Here is the Liberal mantra:
If you're not white and you use your brain to vote BASED ON ISSUES NOT RACE you are a stupid idiot.
If you're white and you vote BASED ON RACE NOT ISSUES you are a stupid idiot.
And yet they still can't understand why nobody takes them seriously.
So just because blacks are a minority in Utah, somehow it is Utah's fault, and by default, the Mormon Church's fault?! Love the the intolerance under the guise of tolerance.
Nobody is saying that it is Utah's "fault", the point being made is that most Utahns, if they are Mormon and white, look down their collective noses at "people of color", I have seen it FIRST HAND, although I myself am a white person, I happen to be married to a "person of color", and have seen the way most people regard him, with utter distain, even though he was born and raised in Utah,he has been looked upon as a second class citizen, oh yes racism is alive and well in Utah. And by the way, there IS NO separation of church and state here, the Mormon Church RUNS THIS STATE, hands down! It's "their way or the highway", always has been, always will be. So it is no wonder that black people, hispanic/latino,asians, and others are in the minority, they DON'T want to live here!!!
ILLEGAL still means you broke the law, you broke the law suffer the consequences. If parents brought you here illegally, I believe it is their problem, they should not have done that. If it costs too much to do the process then stay home (your country, not ours) and make it work for you.
@ blueinut - Strangely when I lived and went to school in Utah, some of the most popular people in school were black. The class behind me had one for class vice president multiple times from jr high through high school.
Mayor Villaraigosa, you are a Traitor!!!
Well he is a Democrat after all.
He probably believes that California is still Mexican territory as well.