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Subscribe to RSSAs Obama and Romney prepare for the debate on foreign policy Monday night in Florida, new polls emerge showing the candidates are in a 47-47 percent tie among likely voters. NBC's Chuck Todd reports.
Heading into Monday's final debate and with just over two weeks until Election Day, President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney are now tied nationally, according the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
Obama and Romney both get 47 percent among likely voters in the latest edition of the poll, conducted entirely in the aftermath of the second presidential debate last Monday. In the previous national NBC/WSJ poll, which was conducted before debate season began, the president held a narrow, three-point lead over his GOP challenger, 49 percent to 46 percent.
But among the wider pool of all registered voters in this new survey, Obama is ahead of Romney by five points, 49 percent to 44 percent.
"We definitely have a barn burner," says Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted this survey with Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart.
White House adviser David Axelrod discusses the latest numbers reflecting a statistical tie in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
Hart adds, "The election is close, close, close."
Voters more comfortable with Romney
What appears to have benefited Romney, especially after the first two presidential debates, is that voters are more comfortable with him.
A combined 47 percent of registered voters say they are either optimistic and confident or satisfied and hopeful that Romney would do a good job as president -- up five points since the last NBC/WSJ poll. By comparison, Obama's percentage stands at 50 percent on this question, which is unchanged from the previous survey.
In addition, heading into Monday's foreign-policy debate, Romney trails Obama by just three points (44 percent to 41 percent) on which candidate would be better commander in chief, which is down from the president's eight-point edge on this question last month.
And Romney's favorable/unfavorable rating has slightly improved -- from 41 percent favorable/44 percent unfavorable in the last poll, to 43 percent favorable/44 percent unfavorable now.
Obama's score stands at 49 percent favorable/43 percent unfavorable.
Growing economic optimism
But if voters are becoming more comfortable with Romney, they also are becoming more optimistic about the economy.
A panel of experts visits Meet the Press to discuss foreign policy and the 2012 presidential campaigns.
Forty-five percent believe the economy will improve in the next 12 months. That's up one point from the last poll and a whopping 18 points since July. What's more, 41 percent think the country is headed in the right direction, which is the highest mark on this question since June 2009.
Overall, Obama's approval ratings are unchanged from the last survey -- 49 percent approve of his overall job performance, 46 percent approve of his handling of the economy and 49 percent approve of his handling of foreign policy.
Macro-messaging vs. micro-messaging
Despite this growing economic optimism, however, Romney holds a six-point lead over Obama (46 percent to 40 percent) on which candidate would better deal with the economy. That's up three points (45 percent to 42 percent) since the last poll.
Romney also has the advantage on jobs and unemployment (46 percent to 39 percent) and the federal budget deficit (48 percent to 35 percent).
And by a four-point margin (45 percent to 41 percent), voters think Romney is better prepared to create jobs and improve the economy over the next four years.
But Obama leads on almost all other issue and character-trait questions -- being easy going and likable (57 percent to 25 percent), dealing with issue of concern to women (53 percent to 25 percent), being compassionate enough to understand average people (53 percent to 29 percent), looking out for the middle class (52 percent to 36 percent) and dealing with Medicare (46 percent to 37 percent).
David Gregory analyzes this morning's Meet the Press with a preview of the third and final debate on foreign policy between President Obama and Mitt Romney.
"Romney is dominating the macro-messaging of the economy," Hart says, "and Obama is dominating the micro-messaging" -- on things like women's issues, compassion and likeability.
The demographic breakdown
Taking a look at the key demographic groups in this election, Obama leads among African Americans (92 percent to 5 percent), Latinos (winning about seven in 10 of them), women (52 percent to 41 percent) and voters 18-34 (61 percent to 33 percent).
Romney, meanwhile, has the edge among seniors (60 percent to 35 percent), whites (55 percent to 38 percent) and men (47 percent to 45 percent).
But Romney's gender gap narrows when you move from registered voters to likely voters -- Obama's lead with women shrinks to eight points (51 percent to 43 percent), and Romney's advantage with men grows to 10 points (53 percent to 43 percent).
The NBC/WSJ poll was conducted Oct. 17-20 among 1,000 registered voters (including 300 cell phone-only respondents) and 816 likely voters. The margin of error is plus-minus 3.1 percentage points for the sample of registered voters and plus-minus 3.43 percentage points for the sample of likely voters.
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Idiots...lemmings. The American people are such low information voters we are an embarrassment to ourselves! The idiots who think they are voting for Romney don't know how many Romney's there actually are or if, God forbid he wins, which one they'll elect. A very large portion of the electorate who votes for him will be disappointed no matter what because they'll find out he wasn't who they thought he was.... even his father's best friends don't recognize him and surely don't see his father in him!
I could easily use the "idiots...lemmings" right back on you.
President Obama has been a failure from the moment he put his hand on the bible in January 2009. He has stood for everything and nothing at the same time. He has lost every major political battle since becoming President.
If you had only hit the Hillary button...
Why is the gender gap closing tighter? Are women really as stupid as Romney thinks they are?
This is interesting, Very very interesting.
a new article about a biased Poll. Remember the WSJ is a CONSERVATIVE organization.
I just posted to another article that was exactly like this one which also proudly proclaimed that Romney had closed the gap on Obama. Which in my opinion, adds evidence that NBC endorses Corporate Raider Willard "Tax Cheat" Romney for President of the United States. What gets me NBC, is... Why did you make another article about it? Was the comments getting to bothersome for you? Were the Democratic commentators hitting home about that other article being biased?
By the way, True Neutral Polls have Obama ahead by 4.
The World Wonders
And this is my Opinion only.
Visionaries, usually have many attackers and are often name called. Pay no attention.
Go Romney Go!
Well Okey Lib.....regardless of what you think Romney may or may not be....we certainly have a clear picture on what the community organizer is all about...and the American people have had enough. We don't want anymore. To quote an aging film super star..."we gotta let'em go."
ceo: Well I can't wait to hear your howl when you find out what that corporate raider will do to you! So sad!
SURE! LET'S BRING THE POLICIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH AGAIN! as if 8 YEARS OF bulsh***t WERE NOT ENOUGH!
Let's have another war!!! WE REALLY NEED THAT!!!!! And let's have all of OUR Medicaid and Social Security cut as well. LET'S GIVE MORE MONEY TO MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAAIARES, AND TAKE THE TOLL IN THE MIDDLE CLASS!!!!
You need to have your head examined!
Sandy.....it's obvious you have no idea of what Romney did at Bain and this is probably the first time you have used the term "corporate raider". I'm an independent contractor...I'm not in the corporate world, so you won't here any howls out of me....that is, unless Barry is reelected to wreak havoc on the economy for anther 4 years.
IRESPOND - you haven't learned all the talking points...you forgot to call me a racist.
You obviously don't read the WSJ. The only part of the paper that is conservative is the editorial board. The rest is commonly known as left leaning if not middle of the road.
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Go read my post #1.16 or just have a look at the polling internals and see for yourself that the poll is skewed toward Democrats by 6%. This is the same polling outfit that has had 0bama leading for the last several months, the only change is the opinions of those polled.
oh Voters who disagree with you are idiots. That old chestnut. Consider how utterly silly that statement is. Go to any country club in America. you may find people you dislike, but they are definitely not idiots. Doctors. Lawyers. Business Executives. Small Business Owners. Maybe a couple of idiot descendants of smart people here and there. But generally top 10 or 20 percenters are not idiots or they don't stay up there.
You do realize don't you, then when you claim "all" are idiots, the intelligence you are impugning is your own. Then again, you're most likely not an idiot either. Emotion trumps brains.You just have yielded your rational brain to an emotion. Isn't it interesting (no really - its interesting) how emotion can make smart people spew un-smart things? I see smart conservatives do it too. I wonder why.
Maybe what you're really trying to say is - "how can equally as intelligent people as me vote differently than me?"
Ah. Curiosity. The solution to preconceived notions. Rather than make up answers, go find answers. Ask people.
Most conservatives I know are not racist, not overtly religious, are pro choice, pro equal pay. They just think governments are ill suited to fix most problems. And think anyone who tries will likely get poor results and will break the bank trying.
I see Romney's flaws. I hope he will tackle deficits by stopping government from trying to do too much. If he does, i would support higher taxes too to address actual debt. But not before.
If O is reelected, the world will not stop spinning. My taxes will still go up, but we will put off for four more years tackeling the real problem of deficit and debt.
Vote to give me your hard earned money , Vote to tax you for living, you heard me just living... ahahah your alive Obama care says you give me money !
Vote , tell your friends !! Vote tell your neighbors... give me your Hard Earned Money !
Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money ! Give me your Freeedoms ! admitted to the second one !
Wow, the usual lib vitriol is meaner and uglier than usual.....must be running scared!
Do you mean an angel will appear to him?
Like Romney in the second debate compared to the first?
GOP - "Stop Killing our Children for Oil" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't give the KEYS back to the Dirtbags that got us into this sad mess, it took "W" 8 years to destroy our Nation and it will take 8 years to fix !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or could it be they are not as stupid as the other partisan herd thinks they are...
@ Patriotic American U.S.A.: Naaaaaa, no thanks. Romney hasn't done or said anything that leads me to believe he will be a repeat of GWB.
Get your head out of the sand. You support taking money from me and my kids? And giving it to lazy people? If so.......here is my middle finger........
I grew up in a family that was Republican when Republican wasn't cool (thank you Marie Osmond)! I volunterred to work on the Goldwater campaign (I was to young to vote). I remember a time when most Southerners were Democrats (do you remember the Southern Strategy).
The last time I voted for a Republican for President was W. for his First Term and I did it with some trepidation (nearly voted for Gore). After 4 years of George Bush I new something was terribly wrong with what now went for the Republican Party (was blind, but now I see). The Party today is now trifurcated into an unholy trinity... Evangelicals (Christians who don't ask Christian), Corporatist (Multinationals, Banks, Wall Street, corporations, monopolies and anachronistic industries that need to fade away like "clean coal") and the "intellectually lazy" (White Trash)!
Big Business is now more then ever dedicated to manipulating (can you say FOX News) the cognitively challenge among us and a whole generation of addled minded Seniors (remember aluminum siding scams) into (surprise, surprise) voting against their own self interest! They will do so (and deliciously so)... by using their inclinations to Xenophobia, inability for nuance, lack of self questioning (introspection), propensity for a Reactionary World View, ignorance of basic history, absence of motivation for questioning authority and or in the case of some their senility!
They will as the "job creators" (God complex) promise them all great paying jobs (the lie of Supply Side economics) and the warm cozy embrace of a Theocratic Paradise where the message of the divinely inspired Hippie called Jesus (Social Justice) is turned on its head and can be used as a weapon to bludgeon into submission those who are deemed the other or refuse to go along.
Imagine a world where companies can legally poison you and your family for profit! Where women have no reproductive right and the law is codified to make them permanently no more then second class citizens! A world where all our products and service are served up by people who work for less then poverty wages, seven days a week, share the same bed and when hurt on the job are told to just go and die... they already do (can you say "I owe my soul to the company store") (can you say slavery), a Nation where there are two classes... the elites... and then you and I and all those who are dispensable, a Country now always at war and for profit, an American where ironically your love of your fellow man will be suspect and you will be labeled and branded a subversive, a future where Separation of Church and State will be supplanted by a state as a church! This is Mitt Romney's world, this is a world it appears many will bring down on themselves and their children for generations to come!
Appears Romney had a blimp pulling one of His big campaign posters with His picture on it today in Davie, Fl. Seems a mob of Crows allied with Seagulls were offended and attacked it. Onlookers said It appeared to fly backward a short while then crashed. Adding insult, the banner was liberally sprinkled with bird sh^t. Hee, hee, Romney can't even Sh^t the birds.
President Obama is a college basketball fan and he knows quite well what One and Done means...
Unfortunately, O also never learned that there isn't an "I" in the word "team."
Hopefully that means that we will not see Romney run again FOR ANYTHING: SENATE, PRESIDENCY OR idiot of the village!!!!
Because he is not qualified for any of those jobs!!!
irespond.....maybe you should quite yelling...save your voice for 11/6/12 you will need it when your Messiah is sent back to Chicago...
i WILL, WHEN YOU STOP WRITING STUPIDITIES!!!
Wahaha Wahaha Wahaha , I don't want to work .. I want your Hard Earned Money !
Give me your Money, Give me your Home, Let me steal your things when you get sick and go to the hospital.... wtf , not reporting on that but sure on gun violence... ahahaha, Give me YOUR LIFE !
Obama 2012 ! Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your Money ! Give me your Rights ! admitted to the second one !
Lunky.....
Why do you whine so much? Don't you have something better to do than to cry over your keyboard? Read a book, or your bible, or whatever comforts your sad little mind, but please stop whining. We've heard enough of republicans whining for the last 4 years, and we're going to have to listen to all of you whine again for another 4 years. At least take a week off.....
Obama/Biden 2012
Lunky, all you have posted so far are blatant insults, were you a bully and proud of it? I too was a bully until I had that knocked out of me.
These polls have been bouncing around so much it is hard to determine who is leading nationally. Gallup tracking has Romney up by 7, and in its likely voter model (which it recently switched to) has had Romney up by that much for most of the election. It only appears to have swayed Romney's way because before they were counting registered voters which showed the race as tied, and now they are using likely voters.
The good news for Obama is that many of his supporters have already cast ballots through early voting. Obama is up 64% to 32% in early voting in Iowa. And almost 1/3 of all voters have already cast their ballots. So maybe this means a higher turnout for Obama?
All that being said, I still believe Obama will in the election. ABC, NBC, and CBS polls have all averaged out to Obama being up by about 1.5% consistently. And last week after the 1st debate CBS came out with a poll showing Obama up 3. In September they showed him up by 2. I think these polls are maintaining a slight edge for Obama no matter what people say.
Most people have already made up their minds. Clearly Obama is up when you average all the polls together. And he is up by more in the swing states..
All Obama has to do is win Nevada and Ohio. Nevada hasn't had 1 poll showing Romney in the lead since March of this year.
Ohio has consistently polled for Obama and the new Obama ad up their should be devastating for Romney. So overall I think this is still an uphill battle for Romney and Obama should pull out a squeaker.
Gallup claims they have a new process. Also it seems that Gallup numbers suddenly flipped after the Republican'ts complained bitterly that all the pollsters were treating Corporate Raider Willard "Tax Cheat" Romney unfairly.
And thats my opinion.
The polls changed after the first debate because Obama failed to show up. Romney was not seen as the tax cheating murderer Obama claimed he was. Obama however tried to cover up a terrorist attack because he didn't want to admit it happened on his watch this close to the election...when the cover up was exposed he threw Hillary and Susan Rice under the bus....I thought he was all for women? Guess not.
Wow, just, wow. You couldn't be more misinformed about Gallup.
The Justice Department sued Gallup, the same Justice Department headed by 0bama's friend Eric Withholder.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79992.html
So it seems that the Obama administration is going to try to strong-arm the pollsters.
What else should we expect from the Chicago gang?
Magnum
Republicans weren't complaining about Gallup, but the administration has launched two investigations on Gallup.
RyyGuy
The Polls showing Obama ahead in Ohio are giving democrats a 7 - 9 point polling advantage. Trouble is that Absentee Ballot and early voting show that this gap should only be 2 - 3 points. The polls are also using democrats as 3 - 8 points higner than 2008 & 2004 Respectfully. This is cutting down on the independents which in ohio are responding in a 2 - 1 ratio for Romney.
Translation, Romney may be actually winning Ohio, not Obama.
I have been paying close attention to the polls for a very long time. Gallup daily tracking changed its voter model from Registered voters to Likely voters on the date of October 4th. The day of the 1st debate was October 3rd. If you don't believe me, feel free to go to gallup yourself. If you click on the likely voter model, it starts on the date of October 4th, the day after the debate.
True, Obama did lose some ground after the first debate. However, he did not lose 12 to 14 points like Gallup shows. You need to read the charts clearer to see what it actually says.
To address the point of Ohio, it is interesting that you say absentee ballot early voting is between 2-3 points leaning for Obama. I have yet to see a poll that shows this. Of the polls I've seen, Obama is leading early voting by 8-12 points. Granted this isn't a blowout like Iowa, but it is still a rather healthy lead. Furthermore, I have not seen the real clear politics average go for Romney in Ohio yet. Obama has consistently been up by 1 to 4 points in the RCP average of polls from the beginning of last year till now.
And yes, the polls are showing democrats as 3-8 points higher in 2004 and 2008 because more people now associate themselves as democrats than republicans.
But Obama leads on almost all other issue and character-trait questions -- being easy going and likable (57 percent to 25 percent), dealing with issue of concern to women (53 percent to 25 percent), being compassionate enough to understand average people (53 percent to 29 percent), looking out for the middle class (52 percent to 36 percent) and dealing with Medicare (46 percent to 37 percent).
This did not take a rocket scientist to figure out, just look at Romney, this all goes to who the man is. And clearly if Obama is the best man, he is the best President.
He keeps talking up his business credentials - running a business or running them into the ground to take what's left over - is not like running the U.S.. The last true businessman we elected President.... Herbert Hoover!
So your suggestion is that we keep the community activist, landlord lawyer and freshman senator in there who has never created, adhered to, or balanced a budget in his life? Insanity.
WayToGoChris,
Agree.
WaytogoChris....
Your solution is to elect the guy whose specific job, as the HEAD OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE for the last 2 years, was to pass a budget, but has failed to do so? Maybe you can enlighten me as to when Presidents started writing federal budgets and appropriation bills.... Don't worry, I'll wait.
I wonder what the polls would show if the real Mitt Romney would stand up...
Flip…Mitt Romney said…The Middle East will "remain an unsolved problem... and we will kick that ball down the field". He dismissed Israel's concerns about Iran as mere "noise" that he prefers to "block out." And at a time when Israel needs America to stand with it, he declined to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Flop…At the Fox News Google debate in September of 2011, Governor Romney was asked how he would address the middle east given the new realities in the region. He answered that the first action should be to ensure that everyone knows that the US will stand shoulder to shoulder with Israel and not let any light be shown between the two of you.
Flip…Mitt Romney said…"There are 47% who are with him(Obama)” (lower income families, elderly, veterans, disabled Americans) who are dependent upon government,” Mr Romney said in the video that his role "is not to worry about those people”.
Flop…“It’s not those at the low end and it’s certainly not for those at the very high end. It’s for the great middle class, the 80 to 90 percent of us in this country.”
Flip…”I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country, and you will never see me wavering on that”.
Flop…"I believe people understand that I'm firmly pro-life.
Flipity-Flop…“When I am asked if I am pro-choice or pro-life, I say I refuse to accept either label.
Flip/Flop/Flip…On stem cell research…‘Look, you don’t have to think about this stem cell research as a moral issue, because we kill the embryos after 14 days.’
Flip…Mitt Romney said…“The middle class should not be expecting a cut in taxes because I'm also going to lower deductions and exemptions,”
Flop…“My own view with regards to tax policy is that we ought to provide help to the people that have been hurt most by the Obama economy, and that’s the middle class.”
Flip…Mitt Romney said… Millionaire Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he was seeking better tax policies for people in the middle class like himself.
Fact…The former Massachusetts governor has a net worth estimated at 250 million dollars.
Flip…“I think I’m best off to describe my own positions. And my positions, I think I’ve just described for you – secure the border, employment verification and no special pathway to citizenship.”
Flop…Mitt Romney said illegal immigrants should have a chance to obtain citizenship.”
Flipity Flop…Mitt actually employed a contractor, of whom had 5 illegal immigrants working at his site, on his own ranch.
Flip…Gov. Mitt Romney (R) signed a bill Wednesday (4-12-06) requiring all Massachusetts residents to purchase health insurance.
Flop…He’s now a critic of his own biggest achievement.
Worth Repeating…
Flip…Mitt Romney said… Millionaire Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he was seeking better tax policies for people in the middle class like himself.
Fact…The former Massachusetts governor has a net worth estimated at 250 million dollars.
Mitt’s last words before killing of Osama Bin Laden…”It’s not worth moving heaven and earth just trying to catch one man.”
Mitt’s first words after killing of Osama Bin Laden…”Of course I would have given that order, even Jimmy Carter would’ve given that order.”
bill hoo--MASTERFUL!
Mitt Romney is an idiot! He don't even know who he is. But the voters will get the last laugh, because on election day they will will flip-flop and vote against him. They will wake up and realize how can they honestly put a nut in the white house who's not familar with precisely what he said , but stands by what he said, even though he doesn't know what it was. So he can pack up his draft dodging self and sons and they all can go to the Cayman Islands and his rich buddies can help him buy a presidency. America is not for sale
Fact - Obama takes huge donations from, and attends fundraisers, held by Jay-Z
Fact - Jay-Z has admitted to making his money from being a major crack cocaine dealer.
Fact - We don't need that kind of President.
The reality is that O really doesn't want the job anymore. Just examine how many times he is on some for of entertainment show.
O will have a good career on the speech circuit, in 2013. For the rest of us, we need a leader interested in leading our nation and its citizens.
Hey Bill...right back at ya....why don't you try on a few of these woppers from the community organizer
- He claimed there was little he could do with immigration because he was obligated to enforce existing laws. Now, in an attempt to shore up the Latino vote, his immigration policy will be to simply ignore the laws.
- As a candidate he campaigned against gay marriage and as President supported that position…then 6 months before an election he decides to change his mind.
- He campaigned against the Bush tax cuts; then extended all of them....
- Vowed to take public financing for his 2008 campaign; then refused public financing when he realized he would raise more money without it.
- Campaigned on the closing of Guantanamo as soon as possible, yet 3.5 years into his term, it’s still open…and being refurbished!!
- Promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term; then proposed trillion dollar deficits….as far as the eye can see.
- Said lobbyists wouldn’t work in the White House; then gave them waivers to do just that.
- As a senator in 2006, he voted against increasing the debt limit; now as President he supports raising it.
- He promised to have health care negotiations on live TV, but then reversed himself and sent everything behind closed doors…where he felt more comfortable.
- During a Prague speech in April of 2009, Obama pledged to keep the Bush era policy of Third Site missile defenses in eastern Europe….6 months later, after Russian pressure, he reverses himself.
- Candidate Obama promised to reinvigorate the NASA space program with an additional influx of $2 billion …President Obama let the program die on the vine.
- Vowed to try Gitmo detainees in civilian court as opposed to military tribunals…..now, he’s doing just the opposite
-Independent Thought
First of all our Nation is not a business. And second Romnuts is not a credible CEO or leader. Unless you want to a lying, crooked cheat, that can't tell you from day to day where he stands on anything. Wake up people in your hearts you're not voting for Romney, just against President Obama.
I'm worried for my family-children- grandchildren and the USA. Romney/Ryan are scary people that will say and do anything to win the presidency.They seem so phony and put on. Lord help us all.
I feel the same way about Obama/Biden.
Rburn
The WHOLE POINT of the US constitution was so both Businessmen and Farmers could put down their businesses for a term or two and lend our nation their expertise AND common sense.
Another Wall Street Journal poll. Humm.... Lets see now, the WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdock; no bias there, yeah right.
Why doesn't someone make him explain Massachussetts? He keeps bragging about his healthcare law, and his bipartisanship, and his Number One Schools (which were highly ranked for as long as I can remember mainly due to the high per pupil expenditure levels - which is possible due to high state taxes!) but he doesn't ever brag about being 47th in job creation of the 50 states during his term as Governor and he never explains why the state he ran soooooo superbly is sooooooo BLUE (code for OPPOSED TO HIM!) ----- SO BLUE he hasn't spent a day there!
Why doesn't Obama brag about keeping unemployment at over 8%, adding more to the deficit in 4 years than Bush did in 8 years, or the US falling to 18th place on education vs the world?
*crickets*
You don't brag about cleaning up someone else's mess...
What President OBAMA inherited from the previous administration,
and Obama is merely
Cleaning up a mess;
>two unpaid wars,
>the worst economic depression in 80 years,
>a broken national health care system,
>the battered international reputation of the United States,
>and a horrific job market crash,
Now he has to put up with some sniffling little money bagger wearing mittens and flip flops for dancing shoes, speaking with a forked tongue.
More facts…
>Osama Bin Laden…is dead,
>Obama’s job-creation numbers have already overtaken the Bush administration’s eight- year tally,
>The total recovery of the Detroit automotive industry as a result of his bailout plan,
>The withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan and Iraq,
>The effective military approach in aiding three successful African revolutions
all proof of President Obama’s effective policies.
Bill Hoo - drinking Obama kool-aid like a champ becuase he's worried sick about the possiblity of having to work for his welfare... lol
President Obama did not "inherit" a mess. He took it on willingly and voluntarily.
Osama Bin Laden…is dead, -- yet Al Queda is still alive.
Obama’s job-creation numbers have already overtaken the Bush administration’s eight- year tally, -- not true.
The total recovery of the Detroit automotive industry as a result of his bailout plan, - GM still owes us billions, Toyota has overtaken the American automakers again, the Volt is a dismal and expensive disaster.
The withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan and Iraq, -- Iraq yes (according the President Bush's time table; Afghanistan - not yet.
The effective military approach in aiding three successful African revolutions - with adverse affects, and the mid east approaching boiling points.
Don't forget the Eurozone financial crisis - the President has been completely detached from this - much to the chagrin of his European counterparts
Don't forget a Nobel for doing jack crap. Vote for Barry, he's not Bush.
Massachusetts was 51st in new job creation when Romney took office, worst in the nation; 30th in new job creation when he left. Get the stats straight if you plan to knock his record. You may be talking the rate of job growth over the 4 years, which is influenced by other factors, such as the number of textile and tool and die industries jobs that were continuing to stream out of the state to the Sun belt for their cheaper labor, cheaper energy sources, and cheaper land for building new updated plants.
Keith, your close, here's the fact check on it
"Romney, meanwhile, has the edge among seniors (60 percent to 35 percent)" - THE EDGE?!?! Really NBC, while your own polls might be disappointing, lets not minimalize Romney's landslide lead with seniors.
WayToGoChris, other than just being an Obama hater, what is it that you think Robme is going to do for you? He has not put out one fact on the way he will fix anything. He says I can fix the joblessness and get the country back on track. I can say I can do brain surgery, but does not make it so. He has not given the American people anything other than I'll tell you after I get elected. Would you buy a car and sign the contract and the used carsales man tells you later the cost? That is exactly what Robme/LyinRyan are counting on. Robme has not created jobs in the US, he outsourced them. Open your eyes and take off the rose colored glasses when it comes to Robme/LyinRyan. They can't even tell the truth about a marathon or doing charity work, God only know what else they are lying about.
Don't those seniors understand his 47% talk. I got the message loud and clear.
cody1...the point is we all know what Obama has done and we want someone else asap...
Its the economy - people are finally realizing that
Thank heavens!
It must be very disappointing to the libs and the drive by media, abc,nbc, and cbs that the race is all tied up. After all he is so well liked, drive up tingle up your legs and has to be presidential cause he has a straight crease in his pants and the smartest prez HA HA WINK WINK. It now seems you don't have to be too smart to foul the drive by media if you are a socialist or communism.
Not really, the popular vote does not count for anything. All that matters is the electoral college and Romney has some serious problems in that area.
The people are all mad as hell - nothing accomplished by this administration - they won't take anymore. Romneys lead will increase even more after the debate.
Yes, and you remain a confused voter.
BILL HOO - or is that BOO HOO - I'm not a confused voter anymore. I have seen the light - listened to all of the facts and fact is, Obama is not and never has been the man for the job. Economy in the dumpster, small and large businesses closing, even the federal us post office in trouble just under the current administration. Obama has strangled the people - we can 't take it anymore. He is OUT!
Confused,
No you are still confused if you claim Obama has accomplished nothing:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/
Hey, I predict the economy will get better say in the next 5 years. What a stupid question. Romney/Ryan2012
Yeah! RIGHT!
Voting for those two is voting for GEorge W. BUSH, but 10 times WORSE!!!!!!
OverStep- you predict the economy will get better!!??? We heard the same thin 4 years ago from Obama - nothing has changed - in fact, the economy is worsening.
It became obvious to me quite some time ago as regards the Republicans plans for the economy after the recession hit and now with Romney / Ryan. You'd think that the presidents detractors in Congress would have at least given some of his legislative proposals a test run instead of 'preventing most' of them from even making it to the floor, via filibuster.
Hey, why not effect some of these policies and let the results speak for themselves? If they work, good for the Country and, if they're as bad for the economy as 'some' have been saying, they can always be rescinded and the president would have hung himself!
As it turns out, the bulk and most pertinent of the presidents policies were held up and he's getting blamed for the sorry state of the economy..............I think you get the picture. Yes, I do think it's time for a change, Mr. McConnell, Mr. Boehner, Mr. Rubio et al. MOVE, RATHER BEND OVER!!!
Really? Did you forget that Obama had a full Democratic controlled Congress for his first two years? How do you explain the lack of policy and legislation during that time? No? Thought so...
Oh, let's see. Maybe he was a little busy...
What President OBAMA inherited from the previous administration,
and Obama is merely
Cleaning up a mess;
>two unpaid wars,
>the worst economic depression in 80 years,
>a broken national health care system,
>the battered international reputation of the United States,
>and a horrific job market crash,
Now he has to put up with some sniffling little money bagger wearing mittens and flip flops for dancing shoes, speaking with a forked tongue.
More facts…
>Osama Bin Laden…is dead,
>Obama’s job-creation numbers have already overtaken the Bush administration’s eight- year tally,
>The total recovery of the Detroit automotive industry as a result of his bailout plan,
>The withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan and Iraq,
>The effective military approach in aiding three successful African revolutions
all proof of President Obama’s effective policies.
He played over 100 rounds of golf - at 4 hours a round + 2 hours transport back & forth to Andrews with the motorcade, that is 600 hours of golf in 4 years, which equals 75 eight hour days, which equals 15 work weeks, or almost 4 months.
So he played golf for a month a year while in office, sounds real busy to me.
That's crap, and you know it.
Seems to me, if you had such indepth knowledge on the pres, you'd know more about the facts.
Speaking of facts...I think I'd like to tally up how many people have been fired personally, by the Romney family. Let's try a total of 18,000, by him, and his ole man.
Let's see. Play golf...fire people. Hmmm.
One of these things don't belong in the Oval Office. I think even Big Bird could figure that one out.
FOUR !!!!!!!
Does your Mom know you're on the computer again?
The recession was caused by policies put in place by the Clinton administration. The middle east is in chaos and the American Auto industry is still in trouble.
Do people understand how pointless this sort of poll really is? Al Gore won the popular vote, remember that? The only polls that count are in the swing states, and NBC is doing a great disservice by not reminding people of that fact every time they post one of these crystal ball articles. If you don't live a swing state, you really are not very important, either to the polls or to the outcome of this election.
marjoriekelly54, take your bull crap someplace else. If you make any money from your computer, it's by getting a commission on people you sucker into your scam. Lowlife!
If NBC says they are tied, that means Romney is ahead by about 8 points.
Ahead about 8 points using their 60% Democratic sample! lol
Get the polls right! The Gallup poll is far more accurate and puts Romney way ahead of Obama. Your NBC poll is crap and will always be crap. It is meant to satisfy the masses of Dems who frequent this site and in no way reflects the true poll results.
Quit giving us your politically swayed polls!!!
Not...!
In the last two weeks I have answered two Polls over the phone. I told them I am Black, make only $30,000 a year and I am voting for Romney. I also have done some online Polls and lied through my teeth on them. For the record I am caucasian, own businesses and make well over $30,000 and intend on voting for Obama even though I have voted Republican on other occasions. I recall the Polls having Bill Clinton way behind during his first bid for the Presidency. I also remember clearly Watergate and the Florida voting debacle and fraud. The only way Obama will lose is cheating and fraud. The Media is your biggest source of fraud. The Republicans are your other. The way I understand it, everyone is lying on these so-called Polls. The people who tell you the slanted and fraudulent results work for the Republican Party.
Seems to me that you just admitted to a "cheating and fraud" mentality when you admitted you lied in the polls. Do you really think that their are a significant number of individuals like yourself that state they are Romney supporters when they really are Obama supporters, fool?
As to Bill Clinton, he was running against an incumbent with the perception that the economy was mired in recession. The closest thing to this election is the 1980 election, when the hapless incumbent Jimmy Carter led in the polls until the last two weeks. And that ended in a Reagean wipe out of Carter on election day, fool.
As to Watergate..which one are you remembering? The Clinton's financial benefits from Arkansas funny business that was the focus of investigations?
Yes fool...No legal ramifications whatsoever, and for the record the only people who answer telephone polls correctly are those willing to give their Social Security numbers, Mastercard and Pin and their wifes bra size. As for who is what and where, the last 3 of 5 Presidents, over the last 30 years were Republicans. Regan who was a buffoon and gave us Trickle Down Economics that brought this Country to the brink of ruin, two Bushes, one not even given a second term and another buffoon who told America all about the "Weapons of Mass Confusion". So if the sheeple in this Country want to elect another loser who is beholden to Corporate America so be it. I don't have to blame a sitting President like all the whiny Repukelicans have to. Oh and you sound like Carl Rove. "Focus of Investigations" Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha focus.......dum dee dee dee dummmmmmmmm.
> The Lazaro I told them I am Black, make only $30,000 a year and I am voting for Romney. I also have done some online Polls and lied through my teeth on them. For the record I am caucasian, own businesses and make well over $30,000 and intend on voting for Obama...
That seems pretty childish and dishonest. Luckily, most people are more honest than you claim to be.
> The Lazaro The people who tell you the slanted and fraudulent results work for the Republican Party.
Do you really think that ANY poll is truly unbiased? All political parties everywhere in the world ''spin'' and slant things in their favor. To claim that it's just the Republican's is fairly myopic.
Obama wasted so much of our tax money for his green energy ideas. Next time entertainer and cheif Obama use your own money to save the planet. All that tax $$$$$$$$$$$ got flushed down the toilet which that money could of fixed the schools or roads and bridges in our country. Heres a list of all your failures Obama:
BANKRUPT
A123 Systems*: Received $390 million, of which $249 million of it was a Recovery Act Grant. Filed for Bankruptcy October 16, 2012, and two companies are seeking to buy A123; Johnson Controls and the Chinese firm Wanxiangis.
in our unconfirmed list
TROUBLED
Johnson Controls –– $299 million
Department of Energy Collateral Damage
*Denotes companies/projects with confirmed cronyism and/or corruption.
The is the complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies by The Heritage Foundation, October 18, 2012 (updated
I don't think Romney is a job creator. I think he's a job eliminator. Thousands lost their jobs while he was at Bain. Massachusetts was 47th in job creation when he left office. Had a surplus when he became governor and a deficit when he left. Said he submitted a balanced budget every year as governor. Massachusetts law requires that. I agree with the gentleman I heard on tv that said he is a boss, not a president. He is indeed a typical CEO, i.e., really doesn't know how things are done, just knows how to make money by eliminating positions, often positions that are critical to the proper operation of the business. It's just my opinion but I really don't think he's presidential material. And his rudeness and lack of respect for the President during the debates made him look like a bully, not a plausible Presidential choice.
Amen! Well stated.
87% success rate at turning around previously failing companies in troubled industries while at Bain Capital, and as Governor of Massachusetts he inherited a $3+ billion defict when he took office, and left a $2+ billion rainy day fund when he left, and balanced the budgets all four years, while cutting taxes, especially the infamous Dukakis "temporary"surtax of 0.5% income tax that remained in effect from the mid 1080s until Romney took office in the early 2000s. Massachusetts was 51st in the nation in new job growth, the absolute worst when Romney took office as Governor, 30th when he left. 50,000+ new jobs added, and an unemployment rate 1% lower at 4.6% than the relatively good 5.6% average of the Bush uears. New enterprises begun with Bain investments totaled over 100,000 for firms such as Staples and Sports Authority, etc.
Go peddle you lies on Romney's record elsewhere, CatTrax! You've just been been outed for the lying fool you are!
When Republicans are behind in the polls, the poll is wrong/biased. When Republicans are leading in the polls, they're overwhelmingly correct. Make up your mind.
That makes no sense
go Romney/Ryan!
Oh sh.t
I almost wish Romnut would win, just so I could sit the hell back and blame the next 4 years on the reptards. But frankly, we can't afford to turn around. We're in the middle of investing in our economy. Mitt knows this. That's what pisses me off about him. He would sacrifice our investment, just so he could be the president, and get another feather in his cap. What a suckass. And the Reps are Tards for believing him, Reptards.
If you're gonna make Obama responsible for all the events that occured in his 4 years, then you might as well blame him for the last 12 years as well, because that's when it happened.
I wish Barry-gro would win, that way you'll keep getting your welfare checks. If you ax me, he deserves to be president, just look at all his accomplishment, why for christ sakes, he graduated college.
Oh RATS! you REPUBS need to come up with a more creative insult than that! MOST OF THE PEOPLE CASHING FOOD STAMS AND WELFARE CHECKS ARE HYPOCRITICAL REPUBLICANS, OLD FARTS THAT ARE 'TOO RIGHTEOUS' BUT ARE GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM ON MEDICAID, AND MILKING THE SYSTEM AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!!
jUST LOOK AT rON pAUL!! hE CASHES HIS sOCIAL sECURITY CHECK EVERY MONTH, BUT HE BARKS ABOUT THAT EVERY TIME!
PFFFFT!
So if I go by what you are saying all those Mexican illegals I see in the emergency room don't show their age. I never see any old white people except for me once or twice in the past 26 years.
As I read the hundreds of comments from the intellectually superior, tolerant, forgiving, accepting, empathic, Progressives/Liberals it confirms My decision three years ago to register as an Independent instead of a Democrat and stop voting along party lines.
What happened to the Democratic party?
I voted for Bill Clinton Twice because I believed he was the better candidate even in 1996 during the Monika Lewisnky thing, I always voted for Democrats for House and Senate members etc.
Basically I voted along party lines, I voted Democrat.
I will argue that Bill Clinton is still the Best President we have had in a Long time.
I believed Republicans were greedy politicians that only looked out for themselves, the rich, corporations etc. I believed all the Lefts talking points and stereo types about Conservatives while accepting as truth their own descriptions of themselves as being for the common people, Protecting the poor and middle class, only serving the interests of the people, etc.
Maybe I just felt that if I said I was a Democrat, Progressive, Liberal etc. that would somehow mean I was intellectually superior, more tolerant, forgiving etc. and a better human being who cared for others?
I believe in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, the Divine trinity, but I haven't been to a Church in two decades because I believe organized religion has become corrupt. That's not God's fault that's Humanities fault. I can't blame God or Jesus, and why should I lose faith in them, because of Humanities shortcomings?
Isn't that the message from God? Treat others the way you want to be treated? Help others when you can? Do no Harm? Respect everyone and everything and don't judge others because that is God's job not yours? Turn the other cheek?
Isn't that basically the same as the Progressive/Liberal Message about tolerance, respect, etc.?
Three years ago, because of the health care debate, I started following and researching Politics in more than just a passing interest. After all I have children, and the ACA was going to impact every citizen, and 1/6 of our economy, and I Have a duty to my children to leave the country better than when we inherited it if we can. At the very least not cause any damage to it and leave it in the same condition that we received it in.
I created a Newsvine account, I even wrote a couple of articles, I participated in many of the discussions just as we are doing now. What surprised me was how different my views and opinions were from those that considered themselves on the Left, Liberal, or Progressive.
I was shocked at how many "Republicans are Racists", "Tea Baggers are Homophobes", "Conservatives are all Bigots" etc articles were constantly being written on the Vine to try and stereotype them. I would post a comment and if it wasn't in agreement with the Left I would get called a Tin foil hat wearing, Racist, Homophobe, hater,etc.
But wait a minute I always voted Democrat, I consider myself a Liberal, I don't believe in the Church, I think we have an obligation to help the poor, abortion is a choice, etc. Why am I being called a Racist, Biggot, hater, etc simply because my opinion isn't the same?
Is something wrong with Me?
Aren't Progressives, Liberals, supposed to be the forgiving, tolerant, intelligent ones that have compassion and understanding so why am I being attacked for my views simply because others don't agree with them?
Does being a "Progressive" or a "Liberal" mean I have to Lie about Conservatives? Do I have to make stuff up that isn't true? Do I have to try and stereotype them and call them Racists, Biggots, etc even though I know that's not true?
Does being a progressive mean pretending to be something your really not, tolerant, Respecting, understanding, forgiving, intellectual, etc.?
Just look at all the comments about Romney here on this discussion. All the Lies, Made up facts, Distortions, ridicule, etc. that's being done by Liberal/Progressives.
I would be ashamed to call myself a Democrat, Liberal, or Progressive now that I have seen what they truly are, stand for, and my eyes have opened.
That is why I am now a Proud Independent.
I can have my conservative views, I can have my liberal views, and if you don't like them to God Damn Bad.
Call me a Racist, Bigot, Homophobe, Wing Nut, Republican, Extremist, etc. because it doesn't bother me one damn bit and all your doing is reinforcing my new found discovery, actually 3 years old now, that Progressives/Liberals are no more tolerant, Intellectual, etc than any other group of people.
In a Way they are even worse because they are the ones pretending to be something their not which is why I won’t pretend to be one and would be ashamed to call myself one.
Maybe your tactic isn't working because your not being aggressive enough.
I suggest you type your attacks, ridicule, etc. in CAPS AND BOLD, that way people will know you are serious.
Thank you, David,
Your views are like many who post here, fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal.
I, too, believe that it is a woman's right to choose, but it is not right to expect the taxpayers to pick up the tab. I also believe that we should try to make things better, without breaking the bank.
While Romney may not be the best person out there to serve as President, he is a far sight better than Obama, and has a better chance of turning things around because of his history. I do know that Obama's methods are not working.
Nothing wrong with that I voted Reagan I voted Clinton.
Independents are always the most informed voters in my book.
You Vote what you want and can live with.
I cannot live with Romney or the current Republican Party so I won't be voting for him.
And just to let you know these attacks and name calling are not one sided affairs. ;)
Go try looking up a few far right sites and say anything out of their norm.
@JD1966
David doesn't need to go to any far Right sites to see name calling by the folks on that side of the divide,there is plenty of it and more to see here. I guess it just doesn't offend his delicate sensibilities when one side...the side which by the way counts at least 1/3 of it's members and being such tolerant and rational folks that they freely admit to believing the President to be an illegal alien Muslim...is making their comments is all.
And when he posted this same claptrap in another article's comment section I pointed out what I will here. Do you see his analogy to show just how in the tank for Democrats he once was (or at least he CLAIMS that he once was)? Where he says that ..."I voted for Bill Clinton Twice because I believed he was the better candidate even in 1996 during the Monika Lewisnky thing, I always voted for Democrats for House and Senate members etc."...?
So you were such a loyal Democrat that you voted for Clinton despite the Lewinsky thing,eh David?
So tell me,seeing as the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal first came to light in public on January 17,1998 how did it feel to be the ONLY person voting for Clinton to carry that awful burden to the polls?
MY BS-meter was just red-lined by your sanctimonious drivel.
I'm sure it will all be my fault when you vote for Romney on the 6th.
Me being such a mean ol' Lefty,worrying about biased things like facts and all.
@ Tammy
Seeing as the Hyde Amendment of 1976 largely blocked taxpayer money from being used to pay for abortions and the Stupak/Pitts Amendment of 2009 extended that (with the Presidents assent,BTW...given on March 24,2010 in one of those nasty old executive orders) policy to the Affordable Healthcare Act,I would say that you may need a different electoral windmill to tilt at come election day.
Seeing as yours is a mirage created by the Right to rope in the gullible and all...
The good news about Tammy is the drivel he/she/it posts clearly shows she has absolutely no idea of Obama policies other than the false garbage dished out by right-wing outlets such as Fox and Limbaugh. Since she bases her entire character judgement on taxpayers picking up the tab for an abortion, which is not allowed in current law, her claim that she is pro-choice is false, her claim that she is socially liberal is false. I believe that also means her claim that she is pro-Romney is false as is her fiscal conservative claim.
One thing is for sure, a Romney Tsunami, like any tidal wave, will obliterate America's middle class.
Extremely skewed poll. Polling 44% dems. 38% repubs. The National Barack Channel is lying to the Americam people at every turn. Gallup has it right. Romneys up by 6 points. Romney has a 5 point plan to prosperity. Obama has a 1 point plan. Call Romney a liar.
Obama is in trouble because he's losing the women. The smart ones are waking up wanting a job instead of an abortion.
cgent47: Those comments will sway the women BACK to Obama!
sandy -
Why? Why shouldn't women be concerned about jobs?
No the women that think some old republicturd has the answer might vote for Robme, but those of us that are self thinkers and know what we want will vote for President Obama. I do not want the Republican Taliban telling me what I can and cannot do with my own body.
if you have a job you don't need an abortion. You can afford to support a new child in the world. Kind of hard to do on welfare and food stamps. But then Obama is the food stamp president.
@Joe
That's funny,my fiancees' sister nearly died three years ago due to a difficult pregnancy which necessitated terminating the pregnancy to save here life. She has since been blessed in the last year with a beautiful daughter,because she was STILL ALIVE TO DO SO.
She also happens to be a regional manager for a large retail company and between her salary and her husbands they do quite well.
So tell me dipshyt...what part of her being gainfully employed would have saved her life were she forced to live in a country where there is NO exception to abortion to protect the life of the mother?
Which is EXACTLY what Ryan has a voting record of supporting and Romney supports on even days (at least with him women who need to terminate a pregnancy for their own health have a chance on odd days...as,much like every other thing under the sun he changes his stance on that issue depending on the day of the week...).
cgent47
I have a job. (For which I get paid EQUAL to what the men do.)
I have had an abortion.
AND I voted for Obama on Friday.
mandy
You should be a poster child for OdumbO campaign .
Yea I know, all those things like equal rights, fair pay, control over our bodies, taxing the rich rather than the poor, and being diplomatic with foreigners really gets under your skin doesn't it.
I never saw anybody get on here and brag they had an abortion.....Dems ... you can have Mandy and all like her. I am sure she was also part of the crowd that gave a thumbs down to God during the convention....
Really ..you are proud of that? Reallly!!!!!!!
Mike. Its not bragging. Its a statement of fact in response to cgent. There is a difference.
Mandy...that is disgusting!!!!! And you post it on here ....It is bragging!
A medical procedure is not disgusting mike. Do you think its bragging when someone says they have had cancer?
Many people have discussed abortions on the vine.
Yea..but they dont brag about it . Mandy to compare having Cancer in your body to having a baby in your body is again disgusting! Really what is wrong with you?
Having a job...(I guess you are proud)
Voted for Obama ...(I guess you are proud)
Having an Abortion....(You are proud)
That is bragging!!!! By all measures... Why am I debating this?
Maybe she is stating facts?
Hey Roc ...SO AM I!!!
Mike, again, stating facts is not bragging. I am no more proud of having an abortion than I am of having a wart removed.
If men are going to talk about abortion in the sense that it shouldn't be important to us as a right we should have, then I am going to share my experiences. Plain and simple.
I am neither proud, but nor am I shameful.
(And yes, to me, a baby was just as life altering as cancer.) There is nothing wrong with me, not that I am aware of.
Mike, to me it sounded like innuendos and condemnation from you towards this young lady.
VOTE OBAMA !!!
WHY? So he can totally destroy the United States? No thanks. I will be voting the communist slug out!!!
You will be voting him out...?
Whew, that was a close one. Fortunately, your don't have that much power slick. It's gonna take a majority of delegates, which you will not have.
Don't worry Bill, I already voted for Obama. So that means that equals Joe's vote. Only a few more million to go!