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wrote,'The “Romney Tsunami” is surging through the heartland of America,' That well be, but if Willard is elected and he and his running mate 'lying Ryan' get their way, we'll all need scuba gear, except of course the 1%, they're gonna be in the submarines.

Sensata 2012 ... moving America the Bain/Romney way.

Rage wrote, 'Whats the difference between "W" and Obama anyway? Both Liberal, big government war mongers that answer to the SAME handlers.' Oh wait....if Romney gets in, you ain't seen nothing yet regarding an increase in military spending. How do you think Romney is gonna fulfill his promise of 14 million new jobs. With all that spending, whom do you think is gonna pay for it?

Obama will be giving his concession speech in just 16 days! I can’t wait for Nov 6^th!

I cant wait to listen to his concession speech, I wonder who will he be blaming this time? Probably the likes of feisty and pigotry, he will say the liberals didnt do enough, didnt volunteer enough hrs, I also heard a few kept their birthday money...

FYI libbies - all this 'lying ryan' 'Romnesia' and of course the old 'binders full of women' and the like IS NOT WORKING.

So, what else you all got?

Oh, I see. Other than silly name calling you actually have nothing.

My, that's just sad.

Wait....wait to see Romney/Ryan's economic plans.....changes to tax deductions for the American taxpayer, no specifics, changes to medicare, changes to Social Security, increase in military spending for the Military Corporate Complex(maybe that's where all those jobs he's promised will come from,) increase in spending for Nasa, cuts to Pell grants...... On social issues, kiss Roe vs Wade away, when Romney appoints ultra conservative Judges to the Supreme Court. Anything else to appease the TEA PARTY and their leaders, THE KOCH BROTHERS. Romney really believes the Democrats will cooperate with his agenda, all the while knowing Republicans were more concerned with making Obama a one term President, obstructed every move and hardly anything was accomplished, at the expense of the American people. Even GW Bush had the Blue Dog Democrats, these Republicans have Grover Norcross.....The Koch Brothers, Religious fanatics, et al!!

Yeah, whatever....momentum......

Romney got knocked down by Obama the last debate. He will again in this debate.

This is all about getting out the vote, and Obama has spent 3 times the amount Romney has in the ground game.

The “Romney Tsunami” is surging through the heartland of America.

It took 6.5 years for Bush-GOP Tsunami to completely obliterate this country, including wiping away everyone's 401ks, stock portfolios, and leaving us awash in massive pile of junk debt. Reconstruction from that tidal disaster started when we elected Obama. If Romney and his merry bank of TPGOP goons are elected, the only question will be - Will it take Romney's Tsunami 6.5 years to completely destroy the global economy, or will he be much more efficient and manage the utter destruction in under 4 years.

One final note on the Romney Tsunami surging through the Heartland - it seems the drought wasn't enough. Now they are intent on being laid to waste by an even bigger political/environmental disaster.

"You just read a poll that the gender gap is narrowing," Rubio said. "The reason why is because Barack Obama is not offering anything."

And NEITHER is Romney - let's be honest for once now here, folks. In fact, nothing except more senseless wars, and misery for us economically from these trillion dollar "liberation and democracy across the globe" jaunts and misery for the families of the troops who will have to fight them.

NO THANKS. PASS.

National polls all said the same sh*t ("Dead Heat") right before the election of 2008; a day before the final results of Obama (53%) vs. Mccain (46%). National Polling is ambigious when within 8 percentage points.

Battle ground state polling is more conclusive. The delusion Mitt screwed up the entire election and now has an unstoppable momentum purely from his Fibbing Fest of Debate 1 with assertions Obama doesn't have the same base he had in 2008 remain to be on the GOP wish list of delusions. I hope all the GOPer's out there have their kleenex tissue supplies stocked up by Novemember 6th........they're going to need them. Obama never lost his base from 2008, and GOP efforts at voter suppression have been defeated within the Courts.

President Obama holds leads in Iowa and Wisconsin. People seem to think with the early voting in Ohio, Obama has already won it. NV? Colorado? If the president wins these states, it OHVA.

First Read writes about a bad editorial the GOP is circulating on Obama. Did they not see the great editorials that came out in the past few days from Arkansas, Florida, Virginia, Ohio, West Virginia endorsing Obama?

From CONSERVATIVE newspapers?

If Romney loses either Ohio or FLA, isn't this over for him? I don't know but it seems to be so. In some polls, Obama is doing quite well in Florida. And in Ohio, we know he is.

The GOP supports candidates who engender a distrust in science. They feel they know best when it comes to a woman and her body. They feel their cause is so just they may lie and cheat to achieve it. Well GOP, God is not on your side. And if you think you have a pipeline to the Almighty than its time for you to visit a mental health specialist.

Mitt is a DEVOUT Mormon.

I have Mormons in my family. Look up Book of Abraham if you are not a Mormon; it's a great place to start...

I STUDIED this religion in detail in weekly classes with a Mormon Deacon, I know what I'm taking about: the documents are comically "translated" from Egyptian texts that NOBODY could read at the time!

They turned out to be common funerary docs from some old mummies.

Interesting diary over @ the DailyKos re: North Carolina:

In total, people voted in One-Stop Early Voting on Thursday and Friday. Of those, 42,709 were brand new previously unregistered voters. They did not pass any poll's "likely voter" screen, nor did they even pass any poll's registered voter screen. And yet, they voted. And it is clear that they voted overwhelmingly for Obama (probably by about 2 to 1).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/21/1147522/-NC-Early-Voting-Day-3-Epic-Turnout-42-709-Unlikely-Voters-Have-Already-Voted

About that Gallup poll: Is Romney really up by 7? And will Obama win the election anyway?

Beverly:

Currently, the Gallup poll has Romney leading by 6 points with a margin of error of +/- 2 points. Depending on what baseline they use as a starting point, this actually could be in keeping with the other polls. If they are rejecting the notion that in this election cycle Democrats will be turning out with a 7 point advantage over Republicans--an assumption included in both the NBC/WSJ poll today and the IBD/TIPP poll released yesterday--you can see that all of the polls would be in the same basic neighborhood. In other words if you subtracted the 7 and 8 point advantages for Democrats built into the NBC and IBD polls, they would be at +7 and +5 respectively for Romney. Conversely, if you added in a 7 point advantage for Democrats into the Gallup poll, they would be currently showing a +1 advantage for Obama.

I've said this before in previous posts:

You can't compare different polls using different methodologies. You are far better off comparing the results of the same polling organizations against their own polls taking note of the prevailing trends.

As for whether Obama can win anyway? The answer is yes. In my opinion, the entire race now depends on what happens in Ohio. While there are other paths to the requisite number of electoral votes for both candidates, all of these paths would be decidedly more difficult for either. Whoever wins the state of Ohio will likely win the election.

LOL

Now the polls are important? :D

But actually it doesn't reflect the end product which will be Mitt being defeated by Obama. I can only hope Mitt will fade away forever after that.

David Walker,

Without question, you're correct. The only poll that matters is the one to declare the winner of the election. Other polls reflect opinion to how the electorate may vote. And as we all know, pollsters can determine the results they want to see in their poll, buillding the base for the candidate of their choice.

Two polling organizations continually get it right - NBC and their liberal arm are two that don't. As we near the election, it is imparative for polling organizations to justify theirbi identity and correct wrongs to continue to build their credibility for the future.

Now you may see actual results showing a negative position for the president. The final poll should show that America is a nation of fairness by electing the first Mormon president.

Go home Barry, and will Feisty now return to GSG in DC?

Charleston Gazette, West Virginia's Largest Newspaper, Endorses Obama "Steadfastly imposed rescue measures to halt the hemorrhage.."

Salt Lake Tribune: Therefore, our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds, has guided the country through catastrophe and set a course that, while rocky, is pointing toward a brighter day. The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first.

Obamacare also illustrates the biggest contrast between the president and his challenger. In words and some deeds, Obama has worked to protect vulnerable Americans – the uninsured, gays, the children of illegal immigrants. He’s governed with a philosophy that all Americans deserve at least the opportunity for success, and he’s advocated for tax reform and an educational infrastructure that would promote fairness.

Charlotte Observer: The America he believes in celebrates the common good as well as the individual good. When the economy improves – and it will – the country needs a president with that agenda, with those values. We endorse Barack Obama for another four years.

Tampa Bay Times: We wish the economic recovery was more vigorous, and we would like the president to present a sharper vision for a second term. But Obama has capably steered the nation through an incredibly difficult period at home and abroad, often with little help from Congress. The next four years will not be easy for whoever occupies the Oval Office, but Obama has been tested by harsh circumstance and proven himself worthy of a second term.

In this, the so-called swing state of Ohio, two of today's three Ohio major newspaper endorsements went to President Barack Obama.

The largest newspaper in the swing state of Ohio, The Cleveland Plain Dealer, endorsed President Obama for a second term today, citing his policies as best for Ohio, noting that’s he’s been met with unbending resistance and belligerence from Republicans and sounding the alarm on etch-a-sketch Mitt Romney’s domestic and foreign policies.

http://www.politicususa.com/cleveland-plain-dealer-endorses-obama-criticizes-gop-belligerence-swagger.html

http://stow.patch.com/articles/plain-dealer-beacon-journal-endorse-barack-obama-for-president-do-you-poll

If America had elected George McGovern, instead of Nixon, we could have saved at least some of the over 50,000 who died fighting in Vietnam.

If America had re-elected Jimmy Carter, we would have gotten off our dependency on foreign oil, saving us from having to invade Iraq, heck, saving us from 9/11.

If America had elected Al Gore, we'd be ahead in combatting global warming, and food and energy prices would be down.

If America had elected MCain, we'd still be in Iraq, Detroit would still be in bankruptcy, teachers and cops laid off, and Sarah Palin would be sitting in the Senate.

Will America learn from history?

Elizabeth-1372999

Thats a lot of money George Bush spent. Of course we got 100 months of growth out of it before the democrats took over both the senate and house in 2006 then in 2 short years we were all broke and out of a job! Didn't matter that George Bush was a lame duck President for the last 2 years, it was all his fault!

Of course even after spending 6.5 trillion, thats 2.5 trillion more then Bush in 8 years we are still stuck in the mud.

You didn't happen to read the report from the government economic office that said we will be back in recession next summer did you?

I guess Obama needs to borrow another 6 trillion from China and save the day. Oh wait a minute China has stopped lending us money and we got another credit downgrade in September. No wonder Obama has taken to printing funny money to pay the bills.

Obama's economic plan is called the Cloward - Piven Strategy and if you don't believe it just look at what he has done.

I voted for prosperity, I voted for Romney, I am the 47%, and I'm not stupid.

When the governments bankrupt who's going to send me my check?? Not Obama!

Hmmmm...MittTaxPittanceRommel aka CountDracula and his servant EddiMunster are Lying Up A Storm in Ohio, Which was Traditionally iron and steel specific manufacturing country. BUT! Thanks to the Count and His Aristocrat/Sociopath Friends at the republicanCrimeCartel, The Fine Steel and Iron working Craftsmen and Women were fired and their jobs "outsourced" and so these Fine Americans are in the OutHouse. Read and listen as PhantomBeast is dedicating this communique to our American Voting Men, as The Ladies Have a Large Working Brain up there in their skulls and see Through TheCount and EddiMunster's Lies. Now Men, even though You May not personally savor Prez O 'cause he threatens Our VERY Fragile Male Egos, this Guy is OUR ONLY FRIEND. It's like when you went to the dealership in GREAT Emotional need to get soothed by the Slick Salesman, Who, by the way, strangely resembles MittTaxPittanceRommel, and Both of You sat there and Sang out Anti-Prez O slogans in Unison and he finally got you to go into lifetime hock for one of those HUGE Phallic Trucks that gets 5Gallons to the Mile "But HELL, "I don't care", 'cause it makes up for something Pathetically small somewhere else; And "that Obammi guy!! Like Mitt said, I can't trust him!; there won't be any gas to power my KingDong Phallia Truck!!! An' I don't care if I gotta clean $H!TF!lled Public Toilets wth my tongue for a dollar a day, I don't want no n!gger in th' whitehouse!!" And for You "more educated" Men who feel "Well, I don't care if the Man is Harvard educated, I perceive that he won't be able to get me off of the unemployment line when my "mid managment position" was "inner Corporate absorbed". This President does not know how to run a country". CORRECTION Mr.Snoot, Yes He does just as Rommel and the republicanAristocratParty KNOW How to RUIN a Country. So Fellow Men Voters, Let's keep Prez O in the WhiteHouse as he's the only one who knows what the hell he is doing in spite of republicanAristocratSoldier's attacks. Here is something of interest and importance:

For the Very Few NAIVE
American voters who are thinking of voting for Mitt Tax Pittance Rommel and
Lyin'Ryan out of desperation and hope that these two MONSTERS will rescue your
life, Better look AT THE FACTS. CountDracula and EdddiMunster are going to keep
the bush TAX EVASION BONUSES FOR THE EVIL RICH In Effect: with TheCount's Crappy excuse? "I won't
LOWER the taxes on the Rich!!!!" Well, Thanks Count, as you 1-10% and Corporate
rich already pay the Lowest taxes in American History and the taxes are REALLY on the
Backs of working people @37%. And! AND!! AND!!! Gas and Oil Prices???? What a
Sucker Punch at Voters. The Count and EddiMunster PERSONALLY Dreamed up the
$4.00p/g at the pump to blame it on Prez O. JUST WHO do you voters think sets
Gas& Oil prices, "Healthcare" policy prices, Hiring, Job/Career Outsourcing,
Burger Flipping pay for NET $4.50p/hr while TheCount and these
Aristocrat/Elitist republicanCrimecartel Soldiers are SUCKING YOU DRY for
$4.00p/gal gas and oil,
$1100.00p/m for "healthinsurance", while the ceo at united healthcare took home $128,000,000 CASH, Paid No taxes with capital Gains LoopHoles, Thanks to KingGeorge and the republicanCrimeCartel, who Perverted the tax laws leaving WE American TaxPayers to Pay HIS Taxes on that Tidy Sum.
Here Is a Very VERY Helpful Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage

The real skinny is this, Obama will win the election even if he loses the popular vote, which I don't think he will anyway. There is this little thing called the Electoral College that really decides who wins and who goes home. Romney is still behind despite all of the scenario's. And here is something for you right wing turds to chew on. Is it a mistake that a supposed liberal news network is calling this race even? Don't think so. It just may be a way of rallying the troops to get out and vote for the current president. So put that in your conspiracy pipe and smoke it.

$4.00p/gal gas and oil

Intelligent people know the POTUS has no control over oil prices. IF he did, the scream of socialism would be deafening.

well if the republicans truly have a surge in the polls, after all of the lying, denying what they have promised to do... implying more war, both abroad and against our own poor, threatening to do away with programs, or change them not for the better so that "entitlements" don't weigh down the wealthiest among us... I know one thing for sure. Bill Maher is spot on correct when he says "The majority of Americans are stupid, and will vote against their own best interest".

PRober, especially when most of the welfare recipients are 'Republican voters,' who are THEY going to cry to or blame when the GOP finally stops THEIR payments, Obama?

Fools Gold

As for whether Obama can win anyway? The answer is yes. In my opinion, the entire race now depends on what happens in Ohio. While there are other paths to the requisite number of electoral votes for both candidates, all of these paths would be decidedly more difficult for either. Whoever wins the state of Ohio will likely win the election.

Fools Gold,

Thank you for being honest. I really do appreciate it and now see you in a somewhat different light. You may know me well enough to know I abhor deliberate liars. Again, thank you.

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Feisty, I have more to add to your post regarding Tagg Romney's purchasing voter machines.

Employees of Romney Family's Secret Bank Tied to Fraud, Money Laundering and Drug Cartels.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/12231-employees-of-romney-familys-secret-bank-tied-to-fraud-money-laundering-and-drug-cartels

The Romney's have too many shady things in their past. How can anyonne trust them?

We are in an era of CD, DVD, Blue ray and OBAMA broken record repeating the same B-S over and over "ROMNEYSIA" He even have his follower repeating it also. That's all they have to offer. Let Obama talk policy because he hasn't for the last 4 years. What job is he planning to produce? I don't think he could add more Government Jobs. The Union will not create Jobs. Obama is going to tax the few that could create job. What a joke. ROMNEYSIA as you call him can out smart Obama in Business. OBAMA has every characteristic of a snake. Look closely his face, his stile how he bring he subject to view he want. How he Lie and how you all believe his lies. Some people are born with this gift like Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton try but her face shows regret. VOTE for Obama today be happy and tomorrow you cry.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

To TonyTwoBeers: Prez O, "the potus", is Not a friend of the republicanCrimeCartelOilAristocrats, But Rommel and Lyin'Ryan are; Where the oil industry gets it's crude from "awarded drilling rights" in AmericanTaxPayer OWNED Drilling fields, TonyTwoBeers. These republicanCrimeCartelOilAristocrats extract ENORMOUS Amounts of Oil and sell AmericanCrude, and Refined, to India and China and tie Our $4.00P/G to "global pricing" while We Americans Are SCREWED by these B@$T@RD$ with Our Own Crude, When the price at the pump Should be $1.90-$2.25P/G. You Like getting Screwed like That TonyTwoBeers!!??!! Ooohhh and TonyTwoBeers, Please Yahoo or Google "Oil Industry Executives Bonuses" That's If you want to feel some Real Pain.

Beverly in Chicago
Fool's Gold

Denial won't change the facts, your boy is losing! The only contest left of any import is Ohio. BTW, great point, Feisty... Forwarf!

Fool's Gold,

About that Gallup poll: Is Romney really up by 7? And will Obama win the election anyway?

But not according to Gallup. Their seven-day tracking poll shows Romney up by seven points — yes, seven — with likely voters. But he's only up by one point with registered voters.

It gets weirder: Dig into the poll, and you'll find that in the most recent internals they've put on their Web site — which track from 10/9-10/15 — Obama is winning the West (+6), the East (+4), and the Midwest (+4). The only region he's losing is the South. But he's losing the South, among likely voters, by 22 points. That's enough, in Gallup's poll, for him to be behind in the national vote. But it's hard to see how that puts him behind in the electoral college.

Bev...the only barometer with any credible track record is Gallup. They have correctly called every pres. election since they started calling them in 1936, based on their final poll. Look at Gallup in two weeks and you'll know who will win.

In my opinion, everything else is just conversation, which is ok too. :)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/9442/election-polls-accuracy-record-presidential-elections.aspx

Wow, the repugnants sound just like they did the night before the Healthcare Law was fully implemented.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Obama/Biden KEEP MOVING THIS COUNTRY FORWARF!

Beverly in Chicago

That's crazzzzzy.

________________________________

Put two lefty liberal half-wit's thoughts together and you get a coherent thought that surprisingly makes sense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pat Boston MA.

This one's for you. Not sure if you saw it @TOD. I know how much you love Victor Hugo's Les Miserables

One More Term

http://www.onetermmore.com/video_subtitles.html

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The cure for "Romnesia"

Milk of "Romnesia"

Just one dose and you will forget all about those pesky facts, and the reality of this election! Milk of Romnesia is the perfect placebo for what ails ya.

MYTH uses it daily.

http://reidreport.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/20121020-220128.jpg

Yup, righties will flock to the pharmacies to cure their upset stomachs!!! 5-4-3-2-...

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Hello folks, does it feel like the movie Ground Hog Day to you? We keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results. It looks and feels like we are gerbils on a treadmill wheel.

Who has always run this world? The blue bloods, right? Nearly every U.S. president has been related to each other and ultimately their lineage can be easily traced back to the British monarchy. So what is different about this election? Are Obama and Romney related? Your damn right they are!

Have you ever looked at the Bush, Romney, and Obama family tree, they are all related to each other! If you think this is conspiracy then Huffington Post, Reuters, ABCNews, Ancestry.com, Genealogy Bank, etc and many more news outlets are involved in a conspiracy. The argument by the disinformation trolls is that if you go back far enough in your own bloodline that we are all related to the Queen of England. That is unadulterated BS. The blue bloods have always run this country!

Obama & Romney Are Related! Genealogy Infographic

By Tom Kemp | Posted on October 12, 2012 by Tom Kemp

“In time for the 2012 election countdown, I recently did some genealogy research to learn more about the background of both President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney, and guess what—they’re related!

What’s more: they’re also related to several former U.S. presidents, English kings, outlaws and celebrities. This is really huge! So huge in fact that our team at GenealogyBank decided to create this Infographic to show many of these surprising genealogical findings.”

Why are you voting for either of these candidates? Because one or the other is the lesser of two evils? That still makes them evil, right? We have a one headed two party system that support the rich and could care less about you, zero, zilch!

For those who still value their individual critical thinking and decision making skills wake up and get off the treadmill.

Our global banking system has crashed and you will find this information out after the elections and neither candidate can save it. You can acknowledge our situation or remain asleep, the choice is yours but you can make a difference if you simply decide to. Peace!

I don't know why anyone would vote for romney? If you are going to vote for a democrat, at least vote for the one that will wear the shame.

And as we speak Romneys vulture business Bain Capitol which he is still a huge shareholder is dismantling and shipping American jobs from a profitable U.S. company(Sensata) to China. Romney is the most ruthless and despicable type of business man in our country and the right wants him to be our president. I hope all you conservatives are willing to move to China if you still want your job.

On the day before an election that's supposed to hinge on jobs, taxes and the middle class, Bain Capital, the company Mitt Romney founded, will close the doors of a factory in Freeport, Illinois, and ship 170 good, high-tech jobs to China.

The employees of Sensata Technologies were forced to train their Chinese replacements, and the American flag that long flew over the factory was reportedly removed while the Chinese engineers were visiting the site. A group of workers have set up camp across from the factory -- calling it “Bainport” -- and some supporters have tried to block the trucks hauling equipment out of the plant. According to Dave Johnson, there have been several arrests.

Sensata workers have asked to meet with Mitt Romney and hoped to enlist his help keeping their jobs in the United States, but he has refused, instead remaining on the campaign trail where he speaks often about “getting tough” with China.

The most important part of the story is that Sensata Technologies is profitable operating in Illinois. Net income last year was $355 million, up 16 percent from 2010. The company reported total revenues of $1.8 billion in 2011, up almost 19 percent from the year before. According to a company financial statement, “both 2011 net revenue and adjusted net income represent record levels for the company.”

So this has nothing to do with “making hard choices” in the process of turning around a failing business, which is how the Romney campaign describes Bain's corporate raiding. Bain's partners are looking for a modest boost in profits by locating the plant closer to the booming Asian automotive market (Sensata makes high-tech automotive parts). They'll get a small tax break for relocating the plant – the one Mitt Romney insisted did not exist during the first debate – and possibly defer taxes on some of the income the company generates.

When I was a child, my father said we should always thank God in our prayers that we lived in a great country like America.

Even with the big problems and controversy that exists here, I still agree. America is the land of the free. Just watch the nightly news. In so many foreign countries, people cannot speak their mind or practice their own religion without fear of being persecuted, ostracized, or murdered.

As an American, it makes me proud to have a leader like President Obama.

As a Christian, it makes me proud to vote for another Christian like President Obama.

I have always had faith in America and faith in God. Neither has let me down yet.

It's going to be interesting when Romney wins buy a landslide. I guess red headed idiots will have to do what most folks do, get a job. But then again, the Messiah will likely get another walk on Nobel.

Joe in Albany-1902257

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Obama/Biden KEEP MOVING THIS COUNTRY FORWARF!

Beverly in Chicago

That's crazzzzzy.

________________________________

Put two lefty liberal half-wit's thoughts together and you get a coherent thought that surprisingly makes sense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course it wouldn't. You never stop laughing long enough to understand anything. Get this, if you can.

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I was reading another item that says that the presidential election will, likely, be decided by 106 counties.

I have news for you, it will be decided by even less! Presidential elections are decided by independent voters.

If the 106 county thing is correct, the election will be decided by the independent voters in those counties. So, if you want to know the winner, poll the independents in those counties.

Some of us, independents, don't count because we generally vote independent, as I did last time and will this time.

Since I do not vote in one of those 106 counties, my vote won't matter, anyway.

Lets just skip the debate and allow Barry to read the teleprompter concession speech!

Thank Goodness, the nation is seeing the light, given the parting of the red seas didn't work out so well for O.

I hate to break it to the likes of Spanky and Obamabater, but Gallup has been an outlier for more than a week now. Other polls show an equally sizable Obama lead and most show a tie, but the aggregate result is that Obama is still leading by about 1-2 percentage points.

And I also hate to break it to the GOP, but Romney is not carrying the momentum anymore. He was, until Obama spanked his mendacious buttocks last Tuesday. Since Wednesday, Nate Silver's Forecast has shown a slow — albeit noticeable — reverse in the polling trend, with Obama regaining some lost ground.

Historically, the first debate has almost always been a victory for the challenger. Whenever there have been second and third debates, the trend is for the incumbent to do increasingly better. This won't be surprising in Obama's case, since, by all accounts, his forte has been foreign policy. Romney has managed to convince a plurality of Americans that he would be able to better handle the economy, but Obama's lead in foreign-policy matters has been insurmountable. Obama's FP Achilles heel will definitely be the Libya affair, but Romney screwed up big time last Tuesday and I have no reason to believe he will be able to handle the topic more deftly this time around. Regarding all things China, Russia, Iran, Israel, public image abroad, defense spending, Osama bin Laden, Afghanistan, and Iraq, however, there is no way Romney could possibly make an honest (ha! the words "Romney" and "honest" in the same sentence) case as to why Obama has been a poor C-in-C. He hasn't been.

It's also worth noting that Obama's lead in Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire is more solid than Romney's in Florida and Virginia.

Bottom line: Romney is still the underdog. He had his chance to overtake Obama and he came very close, but he did not. And the chance is over. Now, it's time for Obama's last push, and something tells me he'll be able to, at worst, sustain his current thin lead.

What a waste of time. We will find out soon enough, Nov 6th is coming up fast. I think it will be close, and at the end of the day, we will have a winner and and a re-count.

Ever hear of Joseph Juran? There may have been someone more boring. He always used the 80/20 rule, which governs everything on earth.

How it applies in this case is that 80% of the voters elect 20% of the federal senators and representatives. 20% of the voters elect 80% of the senators and representatives, plus the president. You may not like it but that's the way it is.

Obamabater wrote:

"RE: David Walker........................................This one has mainlined the kool-aid and lobotomized itself."

Any time you want to lose the idiotic avatar and vile moniker and you want to go head to head on facts and facts alone - I'll take your head off. I'll be watching First Thoughts tomorrow.

Romney cashed in big time when Obama saved the auto

It all starts with Delphi Automotive, a former General Motors subsidiary whose auto parts remain essential to GM’s production lines. No bailout of GM—or Chrysler, for that matter—could have been successful without saving Delphi. So, in addition to making massive loans to automakers in 2009, the federal government sent, directly or indirectly, more than $12.9 billion to Delphi—and to the hedge funds that had gained control over it.

One of the hedge funds profiting from that bailout—$1.28 billion so far—is Elliott Management, directed by Paul Singer. According to The Wall Street Journal, Singer has given more to support GOP candidates—$2.3 million—than anyone else on Wall Street this election season. His personal giving is matched by that of his colleagues at Elliott; collectively, they have donated $3.4 million to help elect Republicans this season, while giving only $1,650 to Democrats. And Singer is influential with the GOP presidential candidate; he’s not only an informal adviser but, according to the Journal, his support was critical in helping push Representative Paul Ryan onto the ticket.

One of the hedge funds profiting from that bailout—$1.28 billion so far—is Elliott Management, directed by Paul Singer. According to The Wall Street Journal, Singer has given more to support GOP candidates—$2.3 million—than anyone else on Wall Street this election season. His personal giving is matched by that of his colleagues at Elliott; collectively, they have donated $3.4 million to help elect Republicans this season, while giving only $1,650 to Democrats. And Singer is influential with the GOP presidential candidate; he’s not only an informal adviser but, according to the Journal, his support was critical in helping push Representative Paul Ryan onto the ticket.

Other GOP presidential hopefuls chased Singer’s endorsement, but Mitt chased Singer with his own checkbook, investing at least $1 million with Elliott through Ann Romney’s blind trust (it could be far more, but the Romneys have declined to disclose exactly how much). Along the way, Singer gained a reputation, according to Fortune, “for strong-arming his way to profit.” That is certainly what happened at Delphi.

http://www.thenation.com/article/170644/mitt-romneys-bailout-bonanza

Of course the nation is upset. Obama has done nothing but kick the can. 4 years lost already. AsTom Hanks joked on SNL "one word,, Libya". This poor forum will spill with hate when Romney wins. People will become what they despise the most.

All pathetic, psychotic, braindead right wing radical cracked teanut dopes should listen to your leaders. They warned you about the Mexican Mormon Moron tax evading draft dodger during the primaries when they were able to tell he truth about this moron.

Im so glad Obama saved GM

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo

Why is it when the Democrats talk about the recession they always fail to mention the housing crisis? Why is it at the same time hearings were being held in 2004 all the democrats were saying the housing crisis they were be warned of by the Republicans was just a "fantasy", that there was in fact no problems even though they were being warned that Fannie and Freddie were way over extended?It was all fiction the Republicans were being told.

The true cause, what lead to the crisis, is the bursting of the housing bubble in 2008 that we were told was more "doom and gloom" by the Republicans.

Numb3rTech

I am still waiting on what the secret talks that Obama and his people had with Iran right after he took office.

I don't think a banned nuclear bomb treaty is forthcoming, and even if it does, it will not make much of a difference at this point.

Hey libs:

The Houston Chronicle (as liberal a rag as any of em) has endorsed MITT ROMNEY for president.

Oh, come on David, it's not really fair to have a debate with unarmed opponents and re-regs like Obamabater or HusseinforMessiah! They have no facts! Obama/Biden 2012!

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Ladies and Gentlemen, please rise, for President Mitt Romney! The North, Northeast and the far Left, (Western portions of the United States of America ,will be given to Oh Canada! In the next Republican Congress! May God bless America!

Romney Ryan, 2012, for a more prosperous United States!

Beverly, thanx for the Les Miserables link. I missed it somehow. I saw a tweet yesterday on The Obama Diary where someone was called by the Romney campaign - and the call came from the Philippines. What.a.surprise.

One more term. We're almost there.

Andres, it's nice to read a post like yours that isn't inside the beltway generated. What we're seeing here in America and what they're seeing inside the beltway are two completely different perspectives.

President Obama is holding strong where it matters.

NotASocialist:

Newspaper Endorsements For Barack Obama Smack At Mitt Romney In An Embarrassing Manner!

Many people might say that newspaper editorial board endorsements do not matter very much in the modern age, but still it is impressive that Barack Obama is gathering newspaper endorsements in places that are embarrassing to Mitt Romney.

The Tampa Bay Tribune, in the city where the Republican National Convention was held, endorsed Obama.

The Denver Post, in the city where the first Presidential debate was held, endorsed Obama.

The Salt Lake City Tribune, in the city and state of the Mormon establishment and the Mormon temple, turned against a person who is a leader of their faith, and endorsed Obama.

Additionally, it is quite apparent that other major newspapers, more significant than those mentioned above—including the NY Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, and Los Angeles Times—will endorse Obama, and the Philadelphia Inquirer already has done so.

Sure, Mitt Romney has won some endorsements and will gain more, but it seems clear that the majority of newspapers, and the most prestigious and influential ones, will be backing Barack Obama.

http://www.theprogressiveprofessor.com/?p=19733

Fiesty Redhead Roselle, IL must be getting worried as she is down to her last 16 Midol tablets.

Barak Obama borrowing today, and borrowing tomorrow! Selling the furture of America's Children to China!One child at a time!

Romney Ryan 2012!

Fool's Gold,

"Denial won't change the facts, your boy is losing!"

Yeah, I wanna see you go up to Obama and call him a "boy" to his face. It would be interesting to see how many pieces of you remain after that. I doubt we would be able to count them, though.

I dont see how anyone can deny momentum is on Romneys side. Oh wait, when Obama leads in the polls, its the will of the American people, but when Romney closes the gap, and ties in many polls, then they are just a waste of time.

After seeing the President go 0/2 in debates, and the Vice President making a complete arse of himself, things must be pretty tense in the Obama Administration. I wonder if the W.H. is still a hostile workplace for women? Has the poster boy for womens rights made pay equal for men and women in his own administration....you know, as a show of leadership? Has he answered the question in the town hall on whether he supports his energy secretary's comments? Has he answered ANY questions from the town hall debate?

I didnt think so. He has had the better part of four years and has failed to lead.

Govt_Issue,

"Oh wait, when Obama leads in the polls, its the will of the American people, but when Romney closes the gap, and ties in many polls, then they are just a waste of time."

How about how you righties are always badmouthing NBC for being liberal and calling them liars until they have articles saying the polls favor your man? Then, all of a sudden, NBC speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. How about that, huh?

Why is it that a month ago, republicans blathered on and on about how the polls were rigged, and now, not a word on the subject, and even links to how reliable the polls are?

Pat, Boston MA,

You just might want to check your facts. The Tampa Tribune endorsed Obama. I would be leary of quoting anything published by the progressiveprofessor without double checking.

Republicans say momentum is on Romney's side in new polls

Wow. Really? Is that what Republicans say?

FOUR YEARS AGO, the Republicans said that Mormonism is a CULT. That Magic Underwear Mitt Romeny is a senior member of he Whackadoo Magic Underwear Cult, and that kind of individual shoudl NOT be in the White House. They made Mormonism the Laughingstock Cult of the GOP -- in order to guarantee the Primary for McCain.

And now, today, well... it's ok.

It's ok to embrace a guy who throws reasonableness and sensibility out the window in order to TRULY BELIEVE that the God who created the universe is concerned over anyone who isn't wearing Magic Underpants. Yes, he truly, devoutly believes that.

4 years ago -- Mormons were the GOP's whackadoo, laughingstock magic underwear cult.

Today - eh, it's ok.

No Consistent Values to be found in the GOP. FRAUDS and LIARS to the very end.

Risk1: Barak Obama borrowing today, and borrowing tomorrow! Selling the furture of America's Children to China!One child at a time!

Right. Obama is to blame for the money the US owes to China. ROFLMFAO!!

Bush, in one fell swoop, borrowed almost a Trillion Dollars from China, for tax rebates, as a form of stimulus -- which, of course, had no stimulus effect at all. Most people either put it into savings or paid off a credit card.

And that was only one instance. A Trillion. And it disappeared with no effect on the economy.

So yeah, let's put a republican back into office, to make these same kinds of decisions. And then, blame it on a DEM who wasn't even in office.

Better yet, let's put one in office who's a cultist who think God is seriously concerned about people wearing Magic Underwear!

More and more, I'm convinced that people like you simply hate America. You lie and lie, and actually want to return to policies that destroyed our economy, just to see your anti-gay, anti-female, and other hateful social policies carried out, no matter what the cost. It's unbelievable.

Actually Mickey, I was making a comment more to the generalization of posters on this blog. It is widely known that MSNBC leans to the left. There is no surprise there. My comments were directed at the fact that no one wants to accept the fact that JUST MAYBE people are not satisfied in any way with the job of the President...and JUST MAYBE more people are considering voting for Romney. We can sit here and debate this all day, but to play the devils advocate, when people are quoting polls when their guy is ahead, and criticizing them when the opponent catches up is just as hypocritical.

I have now seen Democratic spokes people talking about how bad the recent data is for Obama. They point to Obama's strategy of negative name calling of Romney. Also the fact that Obama has no workable plan for the future to point to, except maybe more Obama's trickle down poverty. Friday we found out welfare spending has increased 48% to over a Trillion dollars.

To answer your question: First, you are wrong, very few people are motivated by hate. You might attribute some to Obama himself who is the most divisive, racist , and sexist President in history, but most people will excuse him for his hatred of Americans based upon his upbringing. No, the reason that this President has been subjected to so much criticism is that he promotes it by blaming others and not taking responsibility for his failures, in fact, Obama has been the worst President by far in US history.

All in all, the number of folk's in this poll voting for ANY republican, are without doubt in my mind, the complete epitomy of what is wrong with THIS country. Never have americans been so stupid as they are now. When hate and division are bought up WHOLESALE by this ignorant and stupid american political party's leadership, it only proves how ignorant a vast demographic america has. If the average american ACTUALLY KNEW THE DEGREE OF DYSFUNCTION AND DISHONOR brought to this country the last 4 years by THIS so called GOP, Obama would win easily.

HFM-It's going to be interesting when Romney wins buy a landslide.

Well the only way Romney could win is if he was to "buy" the election. But he won't win.The American people as a whole or smarter than that.As the Republican Santorum said about his own party not being the party of "smart people".They will support Romney,but the American voters in the majority will reject him.

Obama/Biden 2012.

Jody, and you still have ignored what Reagans Policy did to this Country, Your HERO screwed you and you enjoy it at your own peril, AMAZING!!!!

4 years ago -- Mormons were the GOP's whackadoo, laughingstock magic underwear cult.

-Bernitch post 1.98

Bernitch, do you really want to go back to quotes four years ago? Wasnt it everyones favorite Democrat, President Clinton making the comment to Kennedy that not too long ago, Obama would be carrying our bags? Be careful what you ask for. Hillary made some very snide comments about the future President during the primaries.

If you read my previous post, you may have noticed that most of the ones who post on newsvine are members of the 80%.

The 80% that has very little consequence in the outcome for this country. You can scream your opinions to high heaven and vote for your party 'til you drop and still only amount to a "tempest in a teapot."

Govt_Issue,

"when people are quoting polls when their guy is ahead, and criticizing them when the opponent catches up is just as hypocritical."

Are you accusing me of doing that? I hope I haven't done that. I have no recollection of having done it.

See ... you only have to look at "Uncle Bob" above and the negative attacks ... No plans for the future just attacks. Frankly there's not much Obama can say ... " keep with my plan because increasing welfare by 48% is a good thing " or here's one Team Obama is running with today " anyone who votes for Romney is Fat and Lazy " Good one Obama.

geneffmlr,

"You might attribute some to Obama himself who is the most divisive, racist , and sexist President in history, but most people will excuse him for his hatred of Americans based upon his upbringing"

I would just like to know how you have arrived at the conclusion that Obama is the most divisive, racist, and sexist President in history as well as that he hates Americans. What is your reasoning process by which you arrive at such a conclusion? The fact that you have such an intimate familiarity with all past presidents that you can make such a statement is truly amazing! I envy your vast knowledge of presidential history.

Mickey,

No, I was not accusing you, or even insinuating that you have done anything of the sort. I was merely explaining my point of view. I went back and read a few of your posts and you appear to be a level headed rational individual. We happen to disagree on political opinion, thats fine. I like coming on here and debating a good argument....and I really do try to avoid personal attacks. If in any way I have come across otherwise, it was not my intention.

Feisty RR

“Tell me one time in history when a sitting President has EVER been subjected to what this man has!”

History has no recollection of a sitting President whose record is so overwhelmingly against the wellbeing of the nation like Obama’s. I do however give him some credit, he is trying to do his best!

This if from Global News in Canada.

A report that Solamere Capital, a company owned by Tagg Romney, has invested heavily in electronic voting machines to be used next month in the critical swing state of Ohio lit up the political blogosphere on Friday.

U.S. President Barack Obama is still leading Romney in Ohio, despite the Republican's recent surge in the polls. Tagg Romney campaigned for his father on Friday in the southeast reaches of the state.

Ohioans are sensitive to suggestions of voter machine shenanigans, with some liberals in the state long suspecting wonky voting machines played a role in George W. Bush's sudden, late-night win there against John Kerry in 2004.

Read it on Global News: Global News | Romney's sons singled out for death stare, wanting to 'take a swing'

The national polls are all over the place. The Investor's Daily poll, just out today, has OBAMA UP BY 6%. It is a post second debate poll. Moreover, the NBC/WSJ poll has Obama up 5% among registered voters, indicating a very healthy preference for the dependability of Republican voters in the poll's final conclusion that likely voters are tied. Problem for the GOP is that in the battleground states, I think the Democratic turnout may exceed the Republican. Another concern for the GOP is that in the poll of the polls Obama is up in Nevada, up in Iowa, tied in New Hampshire, tied in Virginia, and tied in Colorado. So, just the slightest movement - say half a point - or an unexpectedly good turnout - gives him a very nice alternate path to the White House. I actually think Obama's chances in Virginia and Colorado are almost as good as in Ohio.

And Romney's five point plan is essentially nothing when you examine it closely. As the voters think about it, they will conclude that a plan that says a big tax cut is the key, but for many the tax cut will be wiped out by unspecified deduction elimination, looks bizarre. And every time Romney suggests this will create jobs, he implies that lowering rates of small business owners encourages hiring. Small business owners always get to deduct the compensation and benefits paid workers. Employee expenses are above the line expenses.

Of course, the key to Romney's tax cut is that a person making one million per year doesn't care if you eliminate personal deductions if you lower his rate by 20%. He will still have his tax bill go down about $50,000. Romney is not doing anything about the lower 47% - or even the lower 67%.

Republican's, and especially Romney, seem to view the responsibilities of the President of the United States, in particular those of Commander in Chief, as a series of daily headline grabbers, with a carnival type atmosphere encompassing a spitting contest to determine whose font is the biggest. In essence, and in appearance alike, it's as if their single minded goal is simply to rush into print, at all costs, even if by doing so, they fail to act in the best interests of the American people.

Even weeks after the events of the attacks there are still conflicting reports of what actually happened, and yet the Republicans contuine to quibble over the hidden meanings behind 'acts of terror' and 'terrorists attacks.". What was said when, by who, and with what inflection of quivering sincerity in their voice. Romney/Republicans essentially, see this as a race of who got there first to claim the title of "Most Pariotic." It's ridiculous. In these kind of situations, whether it's happening somewhere on the other side of the world, or in our own backyard, cooler heads will always prevail, and certainly should.

This might be a bitter pill to swallow, but while, without question, every American life lost is equal in outrage and the desire to bring their murderer(s) to justice, not every death, does, or should, have the same uniform military response, as say, the bombing of Pearl Harbor. And this is exactly what Romney is lacking in spades, an ability to apply the proper degree of response to the particular action, which includes sometimes, holding your tongue until you have better understanding of what actually went down, and because of this inability, his foot has been repeatedly inserted in mouth. This fault isn't a big deal in the campaign, because he has a dutiful staff following behind with plastic bags snd pooper scoopers, cleaning up his messes by releasing statements after the fact, starting off with the words: "What Governor Romney really meant to say was..." Unfortunately, he won't have the luxury of this safety net as President, and our enemies tend to have very long memories.

I think everyone would agree that in the shadow of these horrific events, every avenue of of saving the loss of additional lives should first be explored diplomatically, before ever even considering other, more deadly, options. It has become far too easy these days for Republican's to pledge, if elected, their intent to prove the mettle of America's standing as the greatest nation by virtue of our military might, on the backs of the young men and women of our Armed Forces who will be the ones to pay for their bluster with their lives Of course I understand that there will always be instances where there is no option other than attack, but the ability to recognize the diiference, and act accordingly, is the mark of a great leader. Obama is exactly that kind of leader, able to temper power with diplomatic restraint, and Romney would do well to learn from his example.

We would all do well to remember that, with few exceptions, nothing is ever as it appears at first glance. And to illustrate the point, I'm going to cite the worst act of terrorism ever purpatrated on American soil, resulting in a staggering loss of life numbering in the thousands. No one will ever forget that day, or should, because it still has many lessons to teach us. On 09/11/2001, when that first plane hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York, at 8:46 am EST, I was just arriving at work, and as I'm on the West Coast, it was three hours earlier.

As I'm usually the first one in, I was all alone, for well over an hour, with only a radio as a means of communication, listening to the coverage. The second tower, the South Tower, wasn't hit until 9:03 am EST. But up until the very moment that the second plane hit, after there was undeniable proof of a coordinated attack, everyone: reporters covering it live, the radio station I was listening to, myself, our government, President Bush, and the American people, were all under the impression that it was an accident, either mechanical difficulties, or a plane that had simply lost its way. Once this became known though, the appropriate response changed dramatically. We would all do well, Republicans and Democrats to stop seeing this a race to see who gets there first. First might mean faster but it doesn't always mean right.

Romney is just too eager to get there first, in my opinion, regardless of clarity of facts, or common good sense. He's more interested in having his face televised with the American flag in background, for that all important photo-op, and of course, getting it on record that he is in direct opposition to Obama's response, whatever that might be. Because honestly, being in opposition to President Obama's position must be preprinted on all Republican stationery, because it precedes every single statement they make.

At some point in this election, Republicans, as a party, traded logic, reason, and a proud history of political bipartisanship, in exchange for assassin-like personal attacks on their opponent, with no basis in real fact, and a series of artfully arranged photo-ops. And while photo-ops, in and of themselves, aren't necessarily a bad thing, as long as they remain in the human interest section, where they belong, like Ryan's recent soup kitchen visit for example. Ryan washing dishes is a designated photo-op in all it's prepackaged glory. Some might call it cute. Others might call it weird. But no one, absolutely no one, mistakes it for policy, or as a legitimate decision-making turning point. It's an opportunity to view the candidate as an "everyday Joe" and will eventually disappear from the airways altogether. Thankfully.

It's only when photo-ops are doctored from the ground-up and camouflaged as being something else entirely that they start to become dangerous. Republican's and Romney/Ryan are purposely attempting to make photo-ops out of life or death situations, and aren't even ashamed that televising your opposition to the President's response, as events are still unfolding, is a blatant attempt to score political campaign points. It is akin to dancing on the graves of all those who tragically lost their lives. This is yet another display of Republican speed versus accuracy, where their rush to judgment has later proven to be less than wise. It reminds me of those studies decades ago where children were offered the choice of a nickel today, or a dollar tomorrow. Children will always choose the nickel, because they live in the moment, lacking the ability to understand that sometimes patience will bring greater rewards.

Now imagine electing Romney, who bases every decision he makes with that same 'in the moment' mentality. An adult with a bull-headed, refusing to admit an error, win at all costs, we are never wrong, unless hell is freezing over, type of attitude taken from the realm of entertainment, and into the sanctity of the White House. Not disturbed yet? Okay, go a little further then, and imagine that same person and his "nobody ever tells me no, because I was elected CEO of the world" self-delusions in full effect, with his twitchy little tigger finger resting on the nuclear warhead button that would launch us into the next world war. Some might becry 'hyperbole' at this suggested scenario. I would counter with 'cautionary tale'.

Romney/republican's and every Citizen's United multimillionaire and billionaire who is currently floating your boat for President, if you really want to talk about an entitlement society, you're looking in the wrong aisle of the supermarket. (In one percent speak, in case you're confused, I'll translate: a supermarket is that boxy warehouse type of building that your maid visits once a month, after which your refrigerator magically fills with food. What was that? Oh yes, well, a refrigerator is that.... Oh never mind). The real entitlement society that is in sore need of a complete makeover, is the one percent. They've been operating under the misquided delusion that their wealth equates to their right to rule.

Obama/Biden

Gee, isn't it amazing that when the polls start to swing in Romney's favor there is a hue and cry from the liberal side! But, when the same polls had Obama in the lead, these same liberals said that the election was "over" and the Republicans may as well just shut down and take the inevitable! Now we are starting to hear how the conservatives and their "operatives" are going to "steal" the election from the "Dear Leader" and there need to be investigations. But, when there were suspicious swings in unemployment rates and new claims for unemployment a few weeks ago the libs were catcalling and calling conservatives "foil-hat wearing teabaggers"! Mark my words, after Obama loses in November, if there are any even remotely close contests, there will be so many liberal "conspiracy theories" against the Republicans that the newspapers will have to double their size to fill them all! BTW, libs, get your foil hats ready!

Hey, any of you liberal celebrities like Rosanne and Cheryl Crow, there are some great deals flying down to Venezuela in December! You can live in your fantastic socialist paradise on the cheap after Mitt hands Barrack his walking papers!

A vote for Romney/Ryan is a vote to gut the middle class. The middle class will see and feel pain like they have never seen before. Romney/Ryan WILL have your sons and daughters fighting another war or two or three. Your loved ones will die and your family will endure much pain. We saw alot of this in the past under Bush and we will see this under Romney/Ryan. If Romney and Ryan wouldn't have taken our jobs oversea's in the first place there would be jobs. Many of you were forced to take money from your 401-k plans to survive while the rich made a boat load of money over the last several years. Bush passed legislation to get company's to do away with traditional pension plans and go to 401-k plans and we all know they don't do well, if you can afford to put money in the plan. A vote for Romney/Ryan is a vote for the wealthy. A vote for Obama/Biden is a vote for working people and the poor. Please vote straight Democrat to advance the middle class. Obama/Biden 2012

Tagg Romney buys voting machine company.

Could they cheat a win in OH with machines documented to swing OH 5 points towards Bush in 2004, at midnight when nobody was voting?

http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/Tagg-Romney-Invested-in-Oh-in-Best_Web_OpEds-121020-557.html

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13221476-romney-family-buys-voting-machines-through-bain-capital-investment

Dangerous Mind, you had better get your "tin-foil" hat ready for after the election. Plus, you have me rolling in the aisles with you claiming that the Republicans stole Ohio in 2004! The only party with a history of long-term vote stealing are the Democrats. How about, "Vote early, Vote Often", or when there were more votes from Chicago than active voters! Please, do not go there and call this kettle (not a racist comment!) black!

there is a huge number of people on here that are either on drugs or in need of them. polls dont matter i said last spring that obama would be shown the door no matter who the nominee was. inever lost faith in the american people. nov 6 he can start making his tee times, seeing golf has been more important to him than the american people or our country!

beverly in chicago obozo wasnt even suited to hold the highest seat in the country, must less b suited for it again. undoubtably he will go down in history as the worse president in all of the presidents. WAKE UP ALL U DUMBOCRATS.

If America had elected George McGovern, instead of Nixon, we could have saved at least some of the over 50,000 who died fighting in Vietnam.

Do you really think so? If he had won, McGovern would have taken office in January, 1973. Saigon fell in April, 1975. By that time, most American trips had been long gone. Do you think that McGovern could have left Vietnam much, if any, sooner?

Bush passed legislation to get company's to do away with traditional pension plans and go to 401-k plans and we all know they don't do well, if you can afford to put money in the plan.

I'm no fan of Bush, but please cite the legislation that you're talking about. 401(k) plans were around long before the Bush presidency, as was the shift away from traditional pension plans.

The reason why Obama isn't getting 53% of the vote (the taxpayers) is because we've seen him buy big companies, bail out big companies, and overspend our borrowed tax money by $4 trillion.

The non-taxpayer, however, has no skin in the game, and will glady vote themselves more benefits. They have no incentive not to.

had mcgovern won? you do know the only state he carried was taxachusetts! thats part of the reason we try to keep them out of nh.

About 400 people attended Saturday's clergy-led rally at the Lake County Government Complex to oppose insurers being mandated to provide free contraceptives, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs.

Leaders and supporters of the Coalition for Religious Liberty in Northwest Indiana blasted the provision of the Affordable Care Act as the beginning of the downfall of religious liberty as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution.

Men and women, varied races and religions represented their opposition was visable and clear.

wow tv news and news paper on Obama side what a shocker no don't say it isn't so

Joseph Juran, the man behind the quality of japanese cars, the 80-20 pareto principle. You democrats and republicans are a part of the 80% "useful many", some independents are the "essential few". Not me, I usually vote independent.

The whole idea of Mitt's son Tagg and his family owning or having anything to do with voting machines should make him ineligible to run for president. THAT IS A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS. Why are company employees not eligible to play in contests that their company runs? Every person should be crying about this. You wonder how he and others made all of their money again. Easy to win when you cheat and break the rules, why do they deserve to get rewarded again? Why do I not just cheat? I could get away with murder I bet $ on it. I am in the best state to do it too. "To many rules and regulations killing business" like the rules against murder, stealing, theft, etc.? Why are those rules and regulations ok, but not ones that effect you?

Do not forget that there will be two people at each voting station with clipboards from the Teaparty (Koch bros) trying to influence your vote too. I think I am going to have to go volunteer to stand next to them all day to disrupt them, and to provide a biased view point. If they are actually doing anything illegal which is unlikely I will call the cops on them.

This reminds me of a cat when they slip and fall off a tin roof. They are scrambling and clawing at anything trying to find something to get a hold of. I was not really even going to bother posting since it is Marco Rubio. If you live in Florida you know he is full of chit and is a piece of it too. How he and Rick Scott were elected is beyond me. It shows the average intelligence that many people have in this state. How can people even vote for people like Rick Scott after he stole billions from Medicare and got a two days notice from the FBI that his company was going to be investigated? He had plenty of time to get rid of any incriminating evidence and setup a fall guy, must be nice to live be another set of rules all because of the amount of money you have.

A poll of wall street, a bunch of rich people that do not want to pay any taxes at all favors Mitt...NO CHIT. Say it isn't so. Tell me something I did not already know. I know you are trying to influence any of those undecided voters that Obama is no longer "cool" or "popular" and Mitt is the latest and greatest thing since "sliced bread". Even if you win you morons still lose, that is how stupid you are. There will be less rich people in America if Mitt gets elected. There race to the top will continue even though the contest is only among less then 0.1% of our population. That means that many of the rich people today will be soon be poor if Mitt is elected. He has to get MORE money too even if it has to come from a fellow rich person. Survival of the fittest remember.

How much less would our debt be if Obama had been able to raise taxes on the rich? Who is in charge? Who owns this country? Would it be nearly as bad. No it would not. Mitt plan is worse for our economy and debt. Getting tired of giving these great leaders chances to fix their mistakes and to come clean, but they would rather play games with peoples' lives. The only ones that are going to make out are the super rich people that will have 4 years to squeeze a couple more drops out of the middle class before they bail and move to another country. The will run for their lives as soon as the revolution they caused breaks out after doing what they intend to this country and its people all in the name of money. I will still be alive, will know who they are, and will come find them no matter what country they attempt to hide in. We will not forget what you did. Once the people start to suffer more under you then they would me it is the beginning of the end for you. I will not show you any mercy just like you taught me to. Do as I say not as I do.

The FiveThirtyEight forecast is unchanged for Saturday, with President Obama maintaining a 67.9 percent chance of winning the Electoral College.

Romney family buys voting machines through Bain Capital investment
Tagg Romney, the son of Republican presidential candidate Mitt RomneyMitt Romney, has purchased electronic voting machines that will be used in the 2012 elections in Ohio, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington and Colorado.

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Mitt Romney Encouraged Business Owners To Advise Employees How To Vote
"If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company," Siegelwrote, urging his workers to instead vote for Romney.

Trust me when I tell you, that even if 67% of the voters vote for Mr. Obama, the republicans, counting in their tossing out democrat and independant voter registration cards, intimidating workers to vote Romney in order to save from being fired if he loses, and buying the actual voting machines to manipulate after votes have been made, Romney will lower that percentage. By owning the voting machines, his family and Bain Corporation affiliates that now own those machines can simply rig them in Mr. Obama's favor and get caught in a recount to negate the democrat votes in that manner or simply rig them to give him the votes outright if he has the balls and risk getting caught.
The republican party has been outright criminal in how they are conducting this voter manipulation in much the very same way that Amanutjob won his own election in Iran.

If the Republcans claim Romney is ahead, then we know he's actually down.

Since Republicans lie about everything it is safe to assume they are lying about the polls as well.

No matter what Internet trolls say or anyone else, this election will come down to Obama in the lead and the Republicans doing their best to limit peolpe from voting and stealing what elections and states they can. Finally, if they are still down a bit they can have their Suprmeme Court give the election to Romney.

So, this election is about Obama getting a big enough lead that it can't be cheated from him.... that's the bottom line. It comes down to how many people go out and vote.

Dear Undecided Voter,

Have simply forgotten what got us here in the first place? You've had 4 years to question the Republican Party and ask them why, with every opportunity they've been given, haven't they produced a piece of legislation that both Democrats and Republicans could be comfortable with that would move this country forward. It took 8 years for Bush's policies to get us where we were 4 years ago and you really expected President Obama to fix everything under 4 years with a "Do Nothing Congress?"

Now down to specifics. Please tell me what Obama policy has had an immediate & negative, impact on
you and how?

1. If you want to go with Obamacare...how has that affected you negatively? The law stops Medicare and Medicaid fraud, expands eligibility up to the age of 26 on your family plan, and expands coverage to those with pre-existing conditions; insurance companies must give you a rebate if you pay more into insurance than what it actually cost you in medical services.

2. The auto bailout - Congress gave money to the auto industry. The auto industry took it for what it was, an opportunity to reorganize and modernize, without having to put hundreds of thousands of people out of work, U.S. wide. The best part, the auto industry paid back the federal government with interest.
Under bankruptcy - you don't get interest paid. Today, the auto industry is stronger and the products are better. In fact, it was such a good deal that according to a report by Greg Palast of The Nation, "Romney and his wife, Ann, made at least $15.3 million -- and perhaps tens of millions more - as a result of bailout funds paid to General Motors."

There is more...the list can go on and on. But let's stops the lies now. They don't change the fact that Republicans are obstructionist

On the budget: President Obama has done an exceptional job under the circumstance's. The President's job is not to lead the Congress - there are three equal branches of government for a reason. His job is to set the agenda for directing this country and it's up to our Congress for getting us there. It is apparent that the many of you have a ridiculous set of expectations. On the subject of Romney being our Commander in Chief, I cannot bring myself to follow a fraud, who supported and protested in favor of the Vietnam War, and then requested a deferment and a trip to France. Romney does not rate to be our Commander in Chief.

Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:

• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents

• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents

• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)

• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)

• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents

• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations

Well, technically, the Republicans are wrong. There was a bounce after the first debate for Romney. After the second debate there was a slight rebound by Obama... so current momentum is currently with Obama. Their conclusions have more to do with the timing of the polls than the trends of the voters.

And why we're considering these clowns is beyond me... tax cuts are asinine. Yes, you get an initial stimulus effect from a tax cut... and an equal and opposite bump when you take it away later. The net effect of tax cuts are temporary, so if you have tax cuts lasting as long as the Bush tax cuts, the only economic result is a sh!tload of debt. Asinine.

And now we want to cut taxes 20%? Idiocy... unless you can really find enough loopholes in the right places to make it all relatively neutral, WHICH THEN NEGATES WHATEVER YOU WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY THE TAX CUT!! Asinine.

Our recovery is delicate. Eliminating so called loopholes like the mortgage deduction will change incentives for real estate purchases and can potentially put our recovery on it's heels. And we seriously want to try such nonsense NOW? Asinine.

Romney's "plan" makes no sense. Obama's steady recover and reasonable and balanced tax rates make perfect sense.

And when you throw women's rights, gay right's, Medicare reform vouchers, Social Security cuts, cowboy foreign policies, and Romney's forbearing CEO temper in the mix and you have a pure losing equation.

Why are people voting for Romney anyway? It makes no sense.

Hey Feisty (aka Jen Psaki) tell your boy he's goin down!!!!...You seem a little more nervous, ALMOST DESPERATE! today, starting to get those ass sweats?

We here in OHIO can't wait for tonights debate when Romney drives the final nail into obumbo's coffin!!!

Don't choke on your popcorn...

HAAAHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!

SAY BYE BYE OBUMBO!!!

...

''Here is what I will say, If four Americans get killed it is not optimal---Barack Obama''

''KARMA IS A REAL BIATCH ISN'T IT OBUMBO?''

"IT'S GONNA BE MONDAY NIGHT OBAMABOWL!!!"

Obumbo gonna get a major ass bbq on Monday night.

About 75 MILLION people gonna be watching obumbo go down in flames!!!!

BREAK OUT THE POPCORN FEISTY...HAAAHHAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!

Liberals have spent the past four years accusing anyone that disagreed with Obama as a racist. Blinded by hatred and race was the standard comeback for anyone questioning Obama. All liberals have ignored the fact that Obama has simply failed this nation, and in part because the mainstream media and liberal supporters were too busy covering for him. Obama enjoyed the perks and benefits of the job, but he didn't do the job. It is almost as if Obama wanted to do the bare minimum that could get him re-elected, so all his failures just became a montage of blame and excuses that did more to prove he was incapable of leading then rallying people to his cause. Obama hasn't earned a second term in a large part because the mainstream media and his liberals supporters never held him accountable for anything. Now that Romney is, Obama looks weak, petty, and incapable.

Ah Hah hah, the Romney BLIMP had momentum too - downward momentum, as it flipped over and crash landed (it's just like Mitt)!

This race has always been expected to be close because 50% of this country had never been able to put their hatred aside...

well put fiery red bush.

the left hates, success, oil,coal,logging, wall street, banks, business, god, religion, people who believe in god and religion, old white guys, white guys, Conservative women any adult that acts like one and can take care of themselves and ...............well getting tired of typing but we get it.

forwarf? i assume that is forward and F**ked.

Tell us Republicans, which Romney do you favor?

This Mitt Romney ---- "The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ---"I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ---- “The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ---- “Healthcare reform should be left to the states” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ---- "Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ---- "I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ---- “I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.”– Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ---- “I respect and will protect a woman’s right to choose.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “I never really called myself pro-choice.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “Ronald Reagan is… my hero.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- "There’s no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.”– Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “I did not see it with my own eyes.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “I would like to have campaign spending limits.” – Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney ----- “The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “I supported the assault weapon ban.” – Mitt Romney

Or this Mitt Romney ----- "I don’t support any gun control legislation.” – Mitt Romney.

This Mitt Romney ----- “The stimulus that was passed in early 2009 will accelerate the recovery…” –Mitt Romney.

Or this Mitt Romney --- “The stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure.” – Mitt Romney.

Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!

…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

..Mr. American Businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE BS!!

…ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>How is it that NON taxpayers built an Infrastructure??

…Now BOZOhussen tells the UN that the 9/11 attacks on USA embassy’s were from a lame youtube video!!. While Over-the-HILl’ry and the Fed Security depts. say it was Al-Qaeda Islamic Terrorists… He tells the UN that NO where in the World should anyone be able to say anything against Islam or its profit( yes spelled that way on purpose~~). The Constitutional genius has forgotten the 1^st Amendment!!.. TOtaLLY Un-American!!

Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!

Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!

BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for cronies ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!

$$$$16 Trillion in Debt….that is 12 zeros… the population of USA is 320 Million,,6 zeros===$$$ 50 Thousand for every Man&Woman&Child!!

Yet Reid –Senate & Obama-White House control do not want to balance the Budget!! These numbers do nor count the obamaDoNOTcare act that is the Largest TAX in World history…No ONE can afford it!!! There is only one reason that these numbers do NOT worry you…you think that you are Entitled to free ride and you will not have to pay!!! . Sober up America!!!

Our fearless leader kills NASA and makes the USA astronauts ride on the back of a Russkie bus, and now the Russian bus is in trouble!!

It's very evident from your sophmoric posts...you are truly the reason for the name...Dumbocrats!

Why are Republicans so insecure - and have to adopt a name 'Rich' to show you are a RepubliCON? There are a lot of rich folks who are Democrats...you don't see Warren Buffet name himself 'rich' and post stuff here!!

Bush brings on the greatest recession in a century with disastrous policies, and you want to bring back the same policies?

Republican/Tea Bigots champion more wealth transfer to the uber wealthy, and you want more of that?

Republican/Tea Bigots seek more opportunities for wars they won't pay for, and you want more of that?

Republican/Tea Bigots refuse to sponsor more jobs repairing America's infrastructure, adding teachers, police, firemen and you think that's all right?

Republican/Tea Bigots think health care is only for the rich, and you'll vote for that? (Look at how many fortunes were destroyed by unexpected health care bills!!!) You're OK with that?

Damn fools. You can't tell help from harm. You don't recognize disaster from the relief that follows. You deserve what you get. Vote for your fascist leaders, conservatives, and prepare for the end of America. Democracy requires intelligence, and you can't see past your greed and hate.

This is so rich from so many libs on this blog with regard to Romney. CLINTON was the MOST FINANCIALLY DESTRUCTIVE PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY:

A) HE, no one else, with the assist of his Goldman Sachs and Wall Street buddies - Robert Rubin, Lawrence Sommers, Timothy Geithner, et. al., and Alan Greenspan (Fed) (and some of these people where brought back by OBAMA to his administration!) - repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1934 which kept Commercial Banking, Investing Banking, and Insurance separate; and with this repeal led to the meltdown of TRILLIONS of dollars of speculative non-oversight investments by banks and financial institutions.

B) HE, no one else, and despite warnings from many councils of economists, industry groups and labor unions truly opened the flood gates on free trade towards LABOR-SINKHOLES economies such as China with NO labor- and product-return to capital, value-added safeguards to protect key industries and sectors in the U.S., as other countries do, such as even the Europeans when drafting similar treaties. In the process HE is the one who set the stage for true syphoning out the manufacturing/industrial base of our country!

C) HE, along with the usual suspects above (and again the same people brought back by OBAMA to work for him) purposely undermined his own chief regulator on market derivatives, Brooksley E. Born, Chief of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, by preventing her, through their insistence, in taking action on regulating the emerging subprime derivatives market which she rightfully predicted will lead to a major world disaster. (Duh ... does anyone remember the crash of '08?). Anyway, such lack of deregulation led to a market of 800 to 900 Trillion (with a T) of mostly toxic derivatives. (How much were Bush's hare-brain adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan cost? ... 1, 2 Trillion?).

CLINTON IS BY FAR THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE FINANCIAL PRESIDENT and OBAMA has taken most of these people in! Romney was no wheres on the radar screen in the decision making on any of the above

The next debate will be on foreign policy.

The President ended War In Iraq - is winding down the War in Afghanistan (2 destructive Bush wars)

bin Laden was dead under the President's watch - Bush never got bin Laden!

US has become so popular in the world now - after Bush destroyed American reputation.

But Romnesia continues his saber-rattling, threatening to invade more countries and even invade the Mars.

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According to a recent survey majority of Americans agree with Pres. Obama on most foreign policy issues.

Yep - our man Pigotry has it just right.

Casue O has gotten it just right. Right on the economy, on the Arab winter, on monetary policy.

And of course the proof s in the pudding - we are all doing so awesome right now.

Which is why all we hear from O is about the economy.

Wait. Why O never, ever brings that up.

Huh.

It's widely known that Bush gets the credit for the recession. You can't cut taxes and go to war twice and remain fiscally solvent. The big driver for the recession was "trickle down" economics, which Romney supports and endorses.

So if you want to return to recessions and financial crises vote for Romney. As you can see, he won't disclose how he'll pay for his 5 trillion dollar tax cut.

Hey, Eric-913730,

You are absolutely right. But sadly, some Americans have very short attention span - they have already forgot that the recession started with bank failures due to GOP deregulation. and recessions started with bank failures are harder to fix - look at the 1929 Great Depression that did not end until the end of WWII 1945.

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Where is common sense??

Eric-913730... problem is, neither has Obama submitted a clear, coherent plan on how to cut down our ever growing mammoth debt and deficit ... and regardless whose fault it is it has terrifyingly increased under his watch.

Jose V....a clear, coherent plan?

As you should know, the US - the largest economy in the world is too big...GOP's clear and 'incoherent' plan to laissez-faire of 'leave the market alone' is the worst such plan in the global history - having done so much damages - from the recession of 1873 to the recession of 1893, to the recession of 1907, to the Great Depression (1929-45), to the recession of 1990, to the Asian Financial crisis of 1997, to this current recession. So this 'clear and incoherent' idea of market as perfect (laissez-faire) is lazy and unfair.

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The vision of an economic policy is often depending on improvising, the only sure thin is to get Congress to go along with the President and work together for a better America...but GOP in congress only want to humiliate the President, putting thei rpartisan interest in front of the country's.

I think Mitt's created too much of a cartoon of himself, and I also think his pride was badly stung in Debate #2.

I have a good idea we won't be seeing Hack And Slash Mitt.

Hey, Jose V.

• This is so rich from so many libs on this blog with regard to Romney. CLINTON was the MOST FINANCIALLY DESTRUCTIVE PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY:

Yeah, you rightWingNuts (RWNTs) want to have your cake and eat it too.

1. If the president talks about regulation, you call it socialism that is against the 'perfect' market which gives bankers obscene profits but forces taxpayers to bail them out when in trouble.

2. If the president agrees with you, Clinton agreed with Sen. Gramm and GOP majority to repeal Glass-Steagall, you call him the most destructive - you WWNTs always bite the hands that feed you.

... look, my last post on this with regard to Clinton ... the buck still stops at the President's desk.

Jose....in the US, Congress is also king...actually 535 kings vs. 1 president..which are supposed to work together. They did in repealing Glass-Steagall of 1933 - that's when the GOP had majority in both Houses of Congress during Clinton's last 6 years (1995-2001).

Obama has laid out a plan. Here it is:

"46 percent would come from higher revenues; about 54 percent of the reductions would come through spending cuts.

Obama’s plan is detailed and complex. To raise revenues, families making over $250,000 a year would pay more, but he also has an extensive list of tax breaks he would eliminate. They can be arcane. For example: • Repeal last-in, first-out (LIFO) method of accounting for inventories
• Determine the foreign tax credit on a pooling basis
• Repeal lower-of-cost-or-market inventory accounting method
• Eliminate special treatment of carried interest

On the spending side, the president proposes $580 billion in cuts to a number of programs that range from agricultural subsidies to rental assistance to airport construction. In 2011, Obama proposed some $320 billion in health program cuts. The federal government would pay less to drug makers and nursing homes. In the long run, many states would shoulder a larger share of Medicaid costs."

His plan is more complex to explain to Americans. It also has some flaws, but not to the depth Romney has. He explains more of how he would pay for his plan.

Eric - 913730 ... Thank you so much for this post. I was wrong, and regret, my previous post on Obama not submitting a coherent plan. This is truly coherent. Your post should be highlighted for all! ... we desperately need, for our country, to address, in earnest, this problem.

Bill-Austin

Actually Joe V was close.

The CRA Lawsuit of 1994 forced banks into making bad loans, It was not deregulation that caused the Mortgage Meltdown rather the CRA Lawsuit that set the pace for it to happen.

Bill Clinton then in 1995 forced Fannie and Freddie to buy all mortgages from the banks without review. Because of the CRA Lawsuit most loans were sold to Fannie and Freddie before the ink was dry.

Fannie and Freddie know these loans were toxic and bundled them with good loans and sold them off to keep the loss ratio acceptable.

Bill Clinton leaves behind the beginnings of a recession. George Bushes policies stop it and America enjoys 100 straight months of economic growth.

2006 pissed about the wars America elects democrats to the house and senate. George Bush becomes a lame duck President.

2007 China begins to buy all the oil they can at any price.

2007 China begins to buy all the scrap metal they can at any price.

2007 The price of gasoline soars because China is buying all the oil it can at any price. Americans are scolded for driving big SUV's and told it's their fault.

2007 Due to high gas and steel prices America begins laying off workers.

2007 Laid off workers can not pay their mortgage and because of the CRA Lawsuit many of these people owned homes they could not afford anyway.

2008 America is in full recession and Barack Obama blames the lame duck President George Bush.

Did you Google the CRA Lawsuit to see who forced banks into making bad loans and added to the collapse of the economy??

You'll be surprised!

PigotryWhy are Republicans so insecure

republican have been more secure then all Democrat put together. That's why you see Democrat buying vote by offering public assistance to poor people. what Democrat need to do is educate these people with free Education or a flat rate tuition so they cut get on their feet. But that doesn't work to their advantage. because an Educated person see light were other can't see.

Pigotry

The next debate will be on foreign policy.

The President ended War In Iraq - is winding down the War in Afghanistan (2 destructive Bush wars)

bin Laden was dead under the President's watch - Bush never got bin Laden!

US has become so popular in the world now - after Bush destroyed American reputation.

But Romnesia continues his saber-rattling, threatening to invade more countries and even invade the Mars.

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According to a recent survey majority of Americans agree with Pres. Obama on most foreign policy issues.

You know who else is dead? Amb. Chris Stevens, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, both former Navy SEAL commandos working as diplomatic security officers. The fourth was Sean Smith, IT specialist.

So, here I am in Key west. Last night, at a party, I was surrounded by friends who know I understand how polling works, all of whom had one question-

Can Romney really win?

Now, bear in mind, these are former Obama voters- all of whom live, daily, with the ramifications of his muddle headed economic decisions: the empty restaurants and hotel rooms; decline in revenue from shops; the closed businesses; the decline in real estate value.

They wanted reassurance that the polling that shows Obama slightly ahead is wrong. There's nothing like going to a party and having to explain the difference between weights and targets, functions and regression models- suffice to say, it's a good thing I don't drink.

All of this is to say- this bastion of Obama support four years ago has flipped, one hundred per cent, to Romney.

Obama is going to be sailing off to Hawaii soon- aloha, Obama. You will, definitely, not be missed.

I just moved out of Florida, after living there 20 years. The state's economy is in a shambles. Romney wins Florida in a landslide.

no joe, no bo, nj

Florida's woes are the result of pre-existing conditions as you well know. Cut the BS.

bcwc: if no jo had to cut out the B.S. she would have nothing to say.

Can't you just see her holding forth at some party that she was invited to because some poor person felt forced to do it? And all the people there, drifting away the moment politeness allowed, happy to be able to relax the forced smiles as no jo drones on and on and ON!

And whispering to each other "who in the world let THAT in?"

As Pelosi said about passing Obama care. "Once it is passed we can all read it"!! Obama interjects his name into history at every opportunity. It is time to erase this failure and let him retire to Chicago.

Fantasy Fest 2008- last week of October, you couldn't rent space for a sleeping bag on someone's lawn.

Christmas week, 2008- you couldn't get space to lean against a lamppost.

2009, 2010. 2011- hotels were giving away rooms. Two for one night, free meals- still couldn't fill up.

This year?

The worst yet.

The small business owners in this town depend on the tourists- and the dollars they bring- and those two weeks are the most important weeks of the year for them.

Stick your Obama-excuse-making in your ear, bcwc. These people know who's to blame for the economic devastation of this island- and they plan to do something about it.

I don't know many people in Miami, but it's hard to believe that this place, a liberal bastion, is that different than Miami.

Florida is going red- big time.

See, bcwc: You have interfered in no jo's perception of herself as all knowing and able to speak for EVERYONE in the world.

When you do that, she gets testy.

She'll be putting you on ignore really really soon!

Romney 2012, and beyond! Obama cancelled Americas Space program! All of Florida was affected by this betrayal! After all Obama was for Americas space program, as he campaigned against Clinton, for president! When he became President, he cancelled American human space flight ceding our leadership in space to the Russians! Obama will not win Florida! Mack, will beat Nelson In Florida's Senate race as well!

Romney Ryan 2012!

I live in Florida! The I-4 corridor, as a matter of fact, and everyone I know is voting for Obama!! The problems in Florida are directly due to the policies of the Republican led administrations of the past...forever!!!! When Obama took office, Florida's unemployment was over 10!! It is now 8.2!! Rick Scott had nothing to do with it!!! He stalled every work opportunity we had, for as long as he could!! When he had to finally start the high speed rail, hire more public workers and invest in the local economies, not just the rich neighborhoods he adorned in his first year, jobs are coming back. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who attributes this to Scott or his cronies, is out of their mind!! Obama has tried to push for more help, Scott turns it down, even when it's paid for!!! You can't blame Obama for the failings of this Governor!! He bought his way into office with 72 million dollars of his own money!! The race was so close, it came down to a recount!! To say Florida is all Romney, is a joke!!!

And whispering to each other "who in the world let THAT in?"

I'm willing to bet they tell old Snookie-Joe they're voting for Willard just to shut her the f*ck UP!

As if anyone takes what the lonely broad says seriously! lmao

No matter how we look at this election it will be close.I live in a "red" state.And even in the red states the President will have many people voting for him. In the "Blue" states the President will carry those states,though Romney,sadly will also have quite a few voters.

If the Republican Congress had done their duty as Patriotic Americans and co-operated with the President and worked FOR AMERICA instead of AGAINST AMERICA the economy would have nearly fully recovered by now.And the lives of all Americans would have improved much faster.But given that they didn't want anything more than to obstruct the President.To make him a one term President it has taken much longer for him to bring us back from this recession.But he is doing it to their great chagrin.

The difference between the the Parties,could,for thinking Americans not be clearer.The Republicans have become over the years,the party of the 1%,the party that denies science,the party that embraces the most backward elements in our society.Racists,the ultra-religious Taliban-lite supporters,the anti-gay rights people,and those that believe women of the 1950's should be the model for women in 2012.They are the party today of exclusion.And they honestly believe that's what right for America.

The Democratic Party on the other hand has through the years been a party of inclusion. We believe in science.We believe that a sincere religious faith is not a license to force our beliefs on others.We believe that America can be great only if it doesn't deny civil rights to any of its citizens,White,Black,Hispanic,Asian.We believe in holding the door open for women's equality not closing it .

The difference between the two Presidential candidates are even more stark. The Republican candidate has shown himself throughout his life as a man that will say and do anything to win.On one hand during the 1960's he proclaimed himself in support of the Vietnam War,while making sure that he didn't have to serve our country over there.Instead letting another kid be sent in his place.In his highly touted "business" career instead of being a "job creator" he was infamous as a job destroyer.A man who "harvested" American companies,shipped American jobs overseas,and made a fortune off the misery of American workers and their families.During his election campaign he's employed lies and half-truths to cover up his real record as a businessman,as a governor,and as a man. Its worked for some American voters.Those that the Republicans have called "not the smart people".You see many of those people on these boards.But not for the majority of American voters,who the more they see of him the less they like.A man that when picking the person to run with him as Vice President chose the man with the worst voting record of supporting the middle-class in American politics.

President Obama,on the other side,has shown himself as an honest man,an intelligent man.Who deeply cares about all the American people.A man who inherited an America in the worst condition than at anytime since the Great Depression. And against the odds,has made great progress to improve our country. He is a man that unlike his opponent,had to struggle in youth to educate himself and came from a life of poverty,to the Presidency of the world's greatest country.He is a man that the middle-class and working poor Americans know understands their life and will always work for them.A President that when picking a Vice President chose a man whose whole career has been made standing up for the middle-class and the most disadvantaged of us.

Yes,the chose is clear.You either support Romney,and vote against America.Or you support the President and vote FOR AMERICA.

Vote Obama/Biden Nov 6th,its the right choice for America.

To Uncle Bob 512

I totally agree with your post above. I firmly believe that if Romney/Ryan are elected, we will as a society will go so far down hill that we will never make it back up. Every part of society will suffer, the retired, those heading toward retirement, working people, people looking for jobs, students, poor, and millitary families. Everyone except the 1% (wealthy). Those with the gold and fine furs and coats of many colors will hire some for food to guard their fine mansions so they can laugh at us because they could buy an election on lies.

I AM VOTING STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET TO BREAK THE GRIDLOCK THE REPUBLICANS HAVE CREATED IN THE HOUSE. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Like I said a couple months ago, it's going to be Romney in a Land Slide. Romney's A-Kicking of Obama in the first debate, slightly winning the second and Obama's epic fail when it came to security in Libya....thus another debate loss tomorrow night for Obama. Romney 3-0 in debates and Obama's failed policies. Well, enough said.

On Nov 5 we will piggy we and will big.

Romney 2012 Because he has a plan

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Republicans really don't give a damn about the economy. They don't give a damn about healthcare. They don't care about women's rights nor human rights for all that matters. They do care about corporations to an extent. They farm them but really, this election really has very little to do with them either. This election is about something far more important than human rights, healthcare, taxations, economy, works protections, environmental economies etc, etc etc... This election is about doing anything they can to win as their prize are the potential 3-4 Supreme Judicial seats that will more than likely be vacated during this next four years. The tealibanians realize that with this presidency, they have the control of the Supreme Courts and can destroy and have this nation not being controlled by The Constitution Of The United States, but rather by their very own, rewritten version of the King James Version of their occult handbook. Whichever party controls the Presidency and Congress during the next four years are going to control the judicial and constitutional path of this nation for the next twenty years or longer. We do not need the Taliban in our government nor do we need any other radical religious cult filling it as well.

Forbes: For A Better Economy, Vote Democratic:

• Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents

• Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents

• Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)

• Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)

• Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents

• The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations

Obama has no known plan for a second term. Obama spends his days on the campaign trail attacking Romney with petty schoolyard trash talk. You never hear Obama say this is what I will do if re-elected, it is only scare tactics of what he claims will happen if Romney is elected. People fell for his hope and change hook line and sinker in 2008, and the country has suffered. Now Obama wants a second term but hasn't articulated a plan, and after four years of blame and excuses people are just not going to be as gullible this time around. No president has ever been so coddled by the mainstream media or there supporters like Obama, and the fact no one ever held him accountable is a big reason he failed. Obama was simply unqualified to be president, and no amount of blame, excuses, or playing the race card will ever change that fact.