Send Romney alone for a weekend in Coal Country. You shore gots purty lips boy, I did hear your'ins squeal on TV last night. Kins yuh do agins fer us boys?? He would not last a night up there but would see the light of deliverance.

And this goofy comment is coming from Mr. 1%. He had those coal miners up their behind him on the stage. They missed a day's pay to stand up their behind a man they didn't support, and were forced by their bad bosses to do so. Romney himself looked like the bad boss last night. The kind of boss that has you looking for a new job as fast as you can. He proved himself unpresidential last night.

When Romney said that he had just been to visit a coal mine, I'm sure he was refering to the mine he visited where workers were forced to come to the rally on their day off for no pay or be fired.

Liberals all dis Romney but FAIL to realize that it's Obama that is shutting down coal mines... he refuses to issue any more government permits for expansion. The ideology of twist and spin still has no real understanding of the issues... they decide to make things up, think they are creative, but fall flat on the truth.

Look to your messiah... he's the one screwing up coal. I know your eyes are blinded... so it's time to start using eyedrops.

I guess we can count on Romney NOT showing up on The Daily Show, Colbert, Letterman, The View, or SNL. Those with no sense of humor don't do well in such venues, and Mitty might blow a gasket.

The president on the other hand fears no talk show host. Mitty hides on Faux noise.

Romney thinks he's Mr $hit.

Hopeisgoneformittens,

You weren't paying attention. Mittens got the spanking of his life. He looked lost, and rambled incoherently after the first 15 minutes. Obama handled all of those impertinent demands well. Mitt has always been a spoiled CEO bully. He showed his colors last night, and he embarrassed himself.

Presidential? Methinks NOT!

Last night after the debate I visualized poor mittens still standing on the stage, in the dark, alone, debating an empty chair.

Mitt Romney's been playing by a different set of rules from the rest of us.

His tax rate is half that of your average American, and he's stashed the difference in offshore accounts from Switzerland to the Cayman Islands.

As CEO and sole owner of Bain Capital from '99-'02, he received $100,000 a year in salary for a job now he claims he didn't have at a company whose decisions he refuses to accept responsibility for.

The Romney Rules are a double standard, plain and simple. They let Romney argue that the basic guarantees of healthcare and a secure retirement are "free stuff you don't pay for," then turn around and tell reporters that talking about his six figure non-job is off limits and no, you don't need to see his taxes.

Oh and 47% of all you suckers don't matter!

Here's the bottom line: Mitt Romney thinks the country should answer to him. We think our elected leaders should answer to you.

This man is the lowest sum of the earth A thief and possibly TAX EVADING FELON

As they used to say on SNL. BrianB, you ignorant $lut. Coal plants are closing due to cheap natural gas, the Coal companies themselves have said as much. It is the dirtiest fuel there is, no doubt about that, and if coal is to remain viable it will need to become "clean coal". At today's rates for differing fuel coal may have to just sit in the ground until it's economically feasible to put scrubbers on the stacks and sequester the carbon emissions. Right now it can't compete even being dirty. My Grandpa spent his life shoveling coal into locomotive engines until it killed him. Wonder if Romney could work that hard for a day? Oh wait, he might dirty up his Mom jeans.

Hopereallyisgoneformittens when you use boldface caps to make your point. You must be one of those folks who shout at the lunch counter with the idea that somebody might listen to you. Pitiful.

Your last post? Plain old swiftboating.

The excuses you right wingers are coming up with is high comedy. Look at the numbers. Your guy lost, badly. Not only on the issues, but overall appearance. Certainly not the take over, buttinski Mitt in the first debate. That's not the sign of a true leader. It's the sign of a guy used to getting his own way and when he can't, acts like a spoiled brat. The world saw it. He signed his death warrant on Long Island last night. Put that in your "binders full of women" LOL!!!!!!!!

My grandfather also worked in the coal mines and died too young.

That's it hopeisgoneformittens, you are nothing but another cut and paste foxwatcher without an original thought in your head.

Wayne...are you going to get sheered on Nov. 6th? You are nothing but a blind sheep follower of Obama. Please tell me, how has your life improved the past 4 years?????? What is Obama's plan for the next 4 years????

Big Bird

Binders

Mr. Coal

This is what the "leader" of the free world is campaigning on... he certainly does know the sub-par average I.Q. of the Democrat party sheep.

Maybe next time he will bring crayons and just sit and draw pretty pictures for the sheep.

there is now a movement

calling for a criminal investigation in to mittins tax evading, unpatriotic behavior

this man is quite possiablty a tax evading felon

next step for vomitt the big house not the white house

CBS polled Obama as the winner of the debate. There you go again! Again, pitiful. Romney offers nothing more than empty promises for everyone but his plutocrat buddies, but he thanks suckers like you for your vote.

Tell me again how you feel about the polls in a couple of days.

tony....

CBS Poll: 65% Say Romney Won Debate on the Economy

Did you make up those numbers or pull them out of your butt? Here's the real numbers.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/10/16/cbs-poll-obama-wins-debate.html

You rwnj's are beyond belief.

OBAMA IS A LIAR!!

...Obama Administration’s despicable ad claiming the miners were coerced into attending a rally for Mitt Romney...

Direct from upi.com here:

Miners told David Blomquist, a talk radio host for WWVA in the area, the mine was shut down during the campaign event and their pay was docked but they were also required to attend the event.

A Murray executive, Robert Moore, told Blomquist, "Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event."

So tell me, who's lying?

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

Mytt ...Mr Coal....??

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but Mitt is dirty, for sure...making obscene profits by outsourcing American jobs.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. Rombot has no specifics because the Republican agenda would scare the crap out of you.

For readers who don't know what I'm talking about: Ever since Ronald Reagan, the GOP has been run by people who want a much smaller government. In the famous words of the activist Grover Norquist, conservatives want to get the government "down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

But there has always been a political problem with this agenda. Voters may say that they oppose big government, but the programs that actually dominate federal spending -- Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security -- are very popular.

Republicans are waging a war on entitlements so if you have no need Social Security or Medicare keep voting Republican.

If America elects Romney they'll get the Mitt that they deserve. He'll screw the Middle Class and Poor.

Here is a fact. Cheap natural gas is the demise of coal. It is also cleaner burning and no strip mining needed.

American voter says:

Mr. Obama is acting like a Chicago Mayor....."Man on Five" (Top Down..no need for Congress), "My way or the highway", and "We won, sit in the back of the bus".

Green energy IS NOT GOING TO FIX OUR ENERGY PROBLEMS......PERIOD.

BTW: how well did your (Mr. Obama) "Go Green" campaign contributors companies fare ? Oh, bankruptcy.

If Mr. Obama gets re-elected, I wonder who he will blame for the domestic and International policy failures for the past FOUR YEARS ?

• Mrs. Clinton ?
• The Intelligence community ?
• Ambassador Rice ?
• Mr. Biden ?
• Valerie Jarrett ?
• Anita Dunn ?
• Rev. Wright ?

Hope:

"Mr. Obama....does your pension contain Chinese investments?"

To your point I concede. However most people do not have control over their pensions or 401k's. Romney might since he is a capital investor. That is his neck of the woods. Obama is a community organizer/politician; he does not have the background to manage that kind of stuff every day and probably has an investment team working for him like most do.

"Mr. Obama....why was additional security not given in Libya when asked for?"

Obama's main reason, per Biden, was that the White House, specifically the White House, was not aware of such a request (as far as we know). Secondly there is the fact that Republican's in the House cut Embassy security spending for the past two years. Both parties have skin in this game.

"Mr. Obama....why is oil production on federal land diminished?"

This one is a bald faced distortion. Oil production is down for the past two years only. The reason for that was because of the BP spill. Only an ass would not have stopped permits until clear regulations had been put in place to prevent another BP style spill from occurring. However oil production, over all, for Obama's first term was greater than any point in the past two decades.

"Mr. Obama....why did the administration not label this as a terrorist attack, but instead state for 2 weeks that it was because of a movie?"

Obama did label it as a terrorist attack. Here you have a point to stand on and one you cannot. First of all he did reference this attack on the 12th; indisputable fact. By saying "acts of terror" he alluded to any past terrorist acts, any acts currently going on, and any future acts. That is what a broad-scope definition means. This means that he was referring to Benghazi.

However you do have a point that, that narrative was not carried through for another two weeks. If you watched CNN today you would have heard that Obama talked with the guy that asked the Libya question last night. Obama told him that he had to wait for confirmation of what really happened as any actions he took could have had a very huge impact on the region. He did not want to act on misinformation.

Any more points for me to validate or shoot down?

Find out later they had to come. Boss made them come

Mitt Romney promises to "save" all those coal jobs. The man owes the Koch brothers immense amounts of "favors"-translated in millions of dollars poured into his nasty campaign-

He has no choice at this point if he gets elected, but to ransack the environment to pay them back. You saw him on the debates. He is a bully that will not stop at anything.

NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIS REMARKS AT THE END OF HIS ASININE CONVENTION. He said that he was not up to save the planet or lower the level of water in the oceans. HE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO US.

The question is; DID ANYBODY NOTICED? Becuase nobody in the media is talking about that!

EEngineer"A Murray executive, Robert Moore, told Blomquist, "Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event."

I'm thinking "mandatory" means required to be there.So I'd call that forced. But this Murray is a lot more sleazy than that. Here is a who article on his nefarious deeds inflicted on his workers.

Coal Miner’s Donor: A Mitt Romney Benefactor And His Surprisingly Generous Employees | The New Republic

"Liberals all dis Romney but FAIL to realize that it's Obama that is shutting down coal mines"

• Right wing ideologues like you Braiand fail to realize that what's shutting down coal mines is cheap natural gas. Don't believe me -- talk to T Boone Pickens.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/23/734401/t-boone-pickens-blasts-romneys-energy-plan-all-they-talk-about-is-oil/?mobile=nc

Obama has nothing to run on so everything about this campaign is a negative attack. All we know about Obama's second term is that he wants to raise taxes, but claims it will only be on the top earners. So why hasn't Obama laid out his plans for the other 1459 days he would be in office? Obama is running the dirtiest campaign of any incumbent president ever. His administration is covering up cuts to Medicare Advantage to fool seniors, and he is lying about the costs and the coverages that will result from ObamaCare. Everyone should wonder exactly how many closed mic comments like he made to the Russian PM are on his agenda, after all he will have more flexibility after his last election.

Hopeisgone, quoting the spokesperson for coal miners to defend the coal industry is like quoting an environmental group to close coal mines. A little biased, don't you think?

The truth always lies in the middle: protect the environment while supporting workers.

Wayne-1656909 post 1.3

BUNK! The minors are telling Obama where to stick what you spout

http://www.nationalreview.com/planet-gore/330437/miners-accuse-team-obama-lying-ads-greg-pollowitz

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/13/ohio-coal-miners-rally-against-obamas-absolute-lies/

How about the 1200 losing their jobs because the Fed is shutting down coal mines?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/alpha-natural-resources_n_1892828.htmlfcoid=417&fcop=topnav&fpid=2&q=1200+miners+layed+off&ql=

Wayne post 1.9

I guess we can count on Romney NOT showing up on The Daily Show, Colbert, Letterman, The View, or SNL. Those with no sense of humor don't do well in such venues, and Mitty might blow a gasket.

You think Romney is stupid and think these people will treat him reasonably, like McCain and his campaign thought Palin would be treated?

Wayne post 1.12

Mittens got the spanking of his life.

Only if our world is actually the world of liberal! Sorry, this is not a Liberal world. According to the undecides, which is what the debate was for, Romney was "Presidential", "very knowledgeable", "Forceful"

Do you know who the undecides were in this group?

Independents and Democrats.

Do you know what they were undecided about?

VOTE FOR ROMNEY or NOT VOTE AT ALL!

hopeisgone allright. No more need to see that garbage poster. Ignored.

Witchking.

Mitt Romney's been playing by a different set of rules from the rest of us.

His tax rate is half that of your average American,

Really? Mitt Romney is retired. He has NO Pension (single term governors in Massachusetts do not qualify for a pension), just a 401K / Trust investments, and Social Security.

He is playing by the same rules as other retirees do everyday. The difference is that he has more investments that pay in the form of capital gains which are taxed at a maximum rate of 15%.

He is living off of his 401K

Every American could live this well if their social security was permitted to be used like a 401K instead of an I.O.U. from the federal government that is paying 1/2% and really doesn't exist - unless they print more money.

I have wondered why I can't discover Romney's platform for runing this country but have finally realised that he will continue to do the same as he does with his businesses,which is I own this and you underlings come up with suggestions,which I will evaluate and decide which one I personally like and will accept. Democracy! that's for lesser mortals.I am Ruler 'so do as I say.

Eric in Oregon

Clean coal is actually cleaner than most natural gas. The only obstacles to overcome is the cost of building processing plants, the uninformed, the misinformed and those who are willingly ignorant.

Terri,

Today, coal miners are limited in their exposure to the dust. Respirators are much better, and what has been found is that if they are limited and get out before they damage their lungs to much, the lungs recover. This is similar to quitting smoking cigarettes before the damage becomes too great.

The CBS poll showed Obama Won the Debate, But Romney won the Economic part.

CNN shows the same thing.

GeoWill

The distortion on Oil was worse than what many of us knew and what Romney showed.

The down 14% was based on the approvals of the last year of Bush which down from his previous years.

http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Obama-Oil-and-Gas-Record-2-with-EIA-correction.pdf

http://www.eenews.net/public/Greenwire/2011/01/13/2

Charlie

Natural gas is favored by the administration. Industry knows that Obama is going to make coal too costly so the only thing they are interested in building is natural gas.

Industry knows that Obama is going to make coal too costly so the only thing they are interested in building is natural gas

• BS!!! Natural gas is abundant and easier to get at than coal due to fracking and other technologies. Thus it is less costly. It's driven by the market -- not the White House. Stop listening to right wing talk radio and watching Fox. Try instead to do a little reading of business and energy publications. You may learn something.

Get 'em DB! Although I'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears. This president has been the most unfriendly president to the oil and gas industry EVER! And to have the audacity to stand there, and blatently lie to the American public is truly sad. Even sadder is the fact that he did in fact lie about labeling Bengazi a terrorist attack when he was in the Rose Garden. He was in fact, taking about PAST terror attacks, and not the one that happened the previous day. This administration walked this excuse around for two damn weeks before they conceeded that the nacent Libyian govenment was correct in it's assessment they gave three days after the attack. What these idiotic liberals fail to see is that our entire economy is a petro based economy! Without drilling, refining, and distributing petroleum products, the global economy would collapse very quickly. And people wonder, "why are food prices raising too?", it's simple. The price of fuel dictates what you are going to pay at the store! If it costs more to get the product to the market, that higher price is passed on to the consumer. Trucks and cars don't run on solar energy, nor do they run on wind energy!!! The computer you silly, ignorant liberals use is produced using petroleum products. The power to run the computer (as well as your respective homes), is produced using petroleum products, and this current administration absolutely FAILS to see this. Enough already Barack! Go back to Chicago where some idiot is planning on taxing bullets and guns to curb the crime rate!!! Seriously??? As if these lawless cowards actually go to a legal gun shop to get their supplies! Idiocy, pure and simple, just like the current idiots in the wh.

All of you saying that Obama is closing coal plants due to regulations, etc. Need to turn Fox and Rush off, because that is NOT why they are closing. They are closing because more STATES are building natural gas power plants, why? Because they are cheaper and natural gas is cheaper to use than coal.

Also those who say Obama is unfriendly to oil companies, first you think it's ok for oil companies to continue to post record profits and still receive millions in subsidies? Next what he said about more oil being drilled for in the US now than was being drilled during the Bush era is true.

Speculators are the reason gas is so high, NOT the president, Presidents don't set gas prices.

NPCDan your post is so full of it I wouldn't know where to begin, except for saying that Presidents don't set gas prices, speculators are the reason the prices are high, and in case you weren't alive this past summer you may have missed that there was a drought and millions in crops were lost. Unless the President controls the weather then you can't blame him for high food cost. I think it's you who fails to see past what Fox and Rush and all your conservative "news" tells you.

DB - Per your statement of if everyone had control of their social security accounts to run like 401K - then there would be millions of extremely poor elderly people in this country, weighing down our social programs even more than they are today.

Lets see if Bush had been successful and had converted all everyone to personal accounts. - Then the stock market crashed from 14k to 7K - so half there savings would have gone bye bye - they would then have to use what was left to live off of, granted the stock market has recovered thanks to Obama - but those same individuals would not have the same amount of capital left in their accounts and would not benefit as much or at all from the upswing. "So - overall not a very good idea" But hey for Chop Shop Mitt - who has made Millions of dollars off of bankrupting company's and chopping them up and selling them to China, probably wouldn't have hurt him as much.

We are using more coal now then ever, enough with the BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets make Coal Green for our Children !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOP nick name, Dr. Blood, "red Oil" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are using more coal now then ever, enough with the BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets make Coal Green for our Children !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOP nick name, Dr. Blood, "red Oil" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Americans are getting screwed and do not give me that BS that in these countries the governments control their oil, so what, if thatisi what it take to stop Americans from be screwed.

Europeans and Americans are definitely paying some of the most painful gas prices globally. More specifically, Norway pays the highest prices for gas world-wide(double what Americans pay). All the while, citizens of oil-rich nations fill their tanks with pocket change. A british insurance firm -Staveley Head- recently released a list of the worlds gas prices. Below are the seven cheapest countries in the world to purchase gasoline.

1. Caracas, Venezuela

$0.18 per gallon (average) — These gas prices have been in place before Chavez took office, and will remain. The last time the government tried to raise gas prices mass protests sprang up across the country, and several people died.

2. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

$0.48 per gallon (average) — The kingdom has 20% of the world's oil reserves, they are the heavy hitter on the global stage.

3. Tripoli, Libya

$0.54 per gallon— Libya is ranked 9th in the oil-producing world league.

4. Ashgabat, Turkmenistan

$0.72 per gallon (average) — Each person with a vehicle gets 120 litres free per month, so who cares about the price anyway?

5. Manama, Bahrain

$0.78 per gallon (average) — Which is likely to rise due to low oil reserves, and a new plan to diversify the economy.

6. Kuwait City, Kuwait

Kuwaitis by nature are very wealthy, but who doesn't like a discount?

7. Doha, Qatar

The citizens of Qatar have the second highest income/world and the 7th lowest gas prices in the world.

There is no such thing as clean coal. Ask the miners and the families that have lost loved ones to coal. Coal plants aren't shutting down because of Obama, they are shutting down or converting to natural gas because it's much more efficient and cheaper. Coal has to be transported to the site it is used at, gas can be simply piped in.

Someone is lying about the Romney coal ad... The mine was indeed shut down the day of the August rally when the Ad was filmed. Employees were told to attend. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81421.html

Americans are getting screwed and do not give me that BS that in these countries the governments control their oil, so what, if thatisi what it take to stop Americans from be screwed.

Every country in your list subsidizes gasoline prices for their citizens. They also don't have free market capitalism like the US does. Are you implying you want our tax payers to subsidize the cost of gasoline? Isn't that a socialist policy?

"Romney running around talking like he's Mr. Coal"

......and Mr. Obama is???

From what I have seen the democrats want to get rid of fracking which provides affordable natural gas. The president speaks about "all of the above" energy policy, but his party does everything in its power to do none of the above. Why not ask those in the coal belt if Mr. Obama is looking out for their best interests....

Eric in Oregon-

As they used to say on SNL. BrianB, you ignorant $lut. Coal plants are closing due to cheap natural gas, the Coal companies themselves have said as much. It is the dirtiest fuel there is, no doubt about that, and if coal is to remain viable it will need to become "clean coal". At today's rates for differing fuel coal may have to just sit in the ground until it's economically feasible to put scrubbers on the stacks and sequester the carbon emissions. Right now it can't compete even being dirty. My Grandpa spent his life shoveling coal into locomotive engines until it killed him. Wonder if Romney could work that hard for a day? Oh wait, he might dirty up his Mom jeans.

Yeah...and Oregon uses how much coal....40% the same as hydro! and here in Oregon what would happen if you eliminated coal...? Increase energy cost by 150%...but I don't want to bother your tiny little mind with numbers...

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All of you saying that Obama is closing coal plants due to regulations, etc.

These fools don't' know what they're talking about. The last round of clean air legislation was passed during the Bush 41 term -- more than 20 years ago. Power plants, the single largest user of coal, are switching to natural gas. It's less expensive. The MARKET is driving this change -- not the Whiter House.

From what I have seen the democrats want to get rid of fracking

SOME Democrats (and some Republicans) want to get rid of fracking. The White House has NOT done anything to discourage it. Again -- try getting some REAL information about energy by reading trade publications or business magazines. Don't believe what you hear on right wing talk radio or Fox.

President Obama had better stop joking around and get serious about this election.

We don't want to get stuck with that zombie Mitt Robme.

Obama/Biden 2012

For all of his parading around with his condescending comments obama has yet to present any comments about how he can correct the issues that he slams Romney about.

The one thing he does do very effectively is show what an @$$hOle he really is - nothing to brag about so he needs to beat down the opposition with condescending remarks.

Er, excuse me? WHO'S war on coal?

President Obama is accused of starting a “War on Coal”, but gas industry giants benefit most from the Clean Air Act. Industry giants; Exxon, Koch Brothers, Oxbow, Chesapeake and Chevron have donated $2,250,000.00+ to Romney’s campaign. They want coal restrictions; it benefits them. Romney’s in their pocket. Follow the money.

CEO Aubrey McClendon of Chesapeake Gas donated $25+ million to the Sierra Club to fund lawsuits against the US government forcing implementation of the Clean Air Act – they won the lawsuit in 2007 – this is the act Obama is accused of ‘passing’. The coal-fired plants say, to meet emission standards, they may need to convert to natural gas. Who benefits?

The regulation’s emission target is 1,000# of CO2 per megawatt-hour of generation. Coal-fired plants will need carbon capture technology to meet this, BUT it applies only to new, non-peaking natural gas & coal-fired plants built in the future, NOT existing plants, existing plants that undertake “new source” upgrades or peaking gas-fired generators.

That’s key to understanding this regulation. There are no new coal-fired plants covered by this legislation; no prospect of any unless gas hits $9.60 per million BTU on a sustained basis. Nearly all future gas-fired plants will meet these standards without additional costs.

Coal industry employment in Pennsylvania and Ohio has increased under Obama. The coal-burning plants being closed would have been shut down without the regulations due to age.

Romney favors coal regulation. As governor he instituted emissions caps for coal-fired plants stating it, "will provide real and immediate progress in the battle to improve our environment. [Massachusetts is] the first and only state to set CO² emissions limits on coal-fired power plants." Romney, outside a coal-fired plant, stated, "I will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people, and that plant, that plant kills people.".

Romney supports billion dollar subsidies for oil and gas. The gas industry profits from limiting coal production. Romney has and will continue to profit from their ‘donations’. The gas industry, and their champion; Romney, have declared war on coal. Obama is simply obeying the law and keeping the coal industry responsible.

Ignore the bobbleheads on Faux and follow the money - you'll see who it is that has declared war on coal ... and it's NOT this administration.

@Jerry:

The reason our gas prices are so high is because, unlike the countries you mention, we allow speculators to "sell" the oil 20 to 30 times, adding cost each time, before it gets to the American people. (It's called Capitalism ... ain't it sweet?)

But, okay, I'm with you. Let's put an end to that. No more Wall Street speculation on oil, natural gas, fuel oil, food / crops ... prices will come down in a hurry!

Ok ... let's hear it from the "WE CAN'T STOP THAT! WE'RE NOT SOCIALISTS!" crowd.

Obama / Biden 2012

Witchking,

Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall
campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch A Sketch."

Mittins

Does this USED CAR SALESMAN every get tired of lying ?

This is the problem with America nobody seems to think for themselves anymore. The fact is Obama has lied to the American people time and time again. One of his most famous lie is I said I would end the war in Iraq and I did. Well that is not the case the withdrawal date had been set before Obama was even elected all Obama did was not extend the war. Now there is a big difference between ending the war and just not extending it. Also can any of you Lib please tell us show us what this man has done for the middle class in this country because the way I see it everything he does adds a tax of some kind to my bill but Obama said he was not going to raise ANY taxes on the middle class. I guess he forgot. Or how he did not say it was a terrorist attack in Benghazi but he said it was an act of terror there is a big difference the.

Can you Libs also explain something to me where does this 1 trillion dollar defense fund come from? It was a deficit to fund a war we should not have been in in the first place but how does it save a trillion dollars it doesn't the money was never there in the first place. As soon as next month comes the jobs numbers will be revised like every month and I am willing to bet both my arms that unemployment gets revised to at least 8.1%.

It is funny how all you Libs can knock Romney but he is the only one between the two of them that has ever run anything that actually made money. What I seem to find amazing is that nobody cares what Obama's plan is for the next four years; just like they didn't in 2008 and look at where we are four years later in the same place.

On energy Obama is clueless he is shutting down coal mining not letting us drill for oil. So what are us Americans supposed to use for energy until the green energy in industry can support even a 1/4 of the USA needs for energy? I guess we use nothing because that is what Obama is doing. It is ok to be for green energy hell I am for it but it is nowhere in the realm of possibilities as an actual source for all of the US or like I said even a 1/4 of the US. Libs don't talk about that.

Or what about when he said Bush was unpatriotic to spend 4.5 trillion in 8 years but he has spent 5.8 trillion in just 4 years? So what does that say about Obama?

I could maybe see you Lib point of view if Obama had an unemployment rate that was reasonable but he doesn't and he hasn't. Obama said he has created however many jobs he said he created but what he does not tell you is that in fact he has lose more jobs overall then helped to create. Plus the government does not create jobs business, supply and demand for goods creates jobs but maybe Obama would have known this had this not been his second job.

So please tell us what is Obama's plan for the next for years and why didn't his first plan work because if it would have worked we would owe about 5 trillion not 16 trillion.

I do like how Obama tries to make it an issue over Big Bird and I have noticed a lot of you Libs are going with that; all that does for me is shows me just why it is he should not be president if you are worried over a TV show instead of American people.

GET OUT obama NOW

VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 AMERICAS FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT

D.Appel,

The coal-fired plants say, to meet emission standards, they may need to convert to natural gas. Who benefits?

Nobody natural gas is retrieved by the fracking process Obama is also against this. The coal emissions you speak of it is not on just plants that are new it is on every plant period. That would have been like telling new oil refiners that they had to control the NOX emissions but the old companies you don't have to bother. We know that is just not the case.

By the way I am not sure if you know this or not but Obama gave trillions of our tax dollars to green energy companies that where all his top contributors and then 99% of the companies went bankrupt

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/green-scam-80-of-green-energy-loans-went-to-obama-donors-19-companies-went-bust-video/

Evergreen Solar
SpectraWatt
Solyndra (received $535 million)
Beacon Power (received $43 million)
AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy
Nevada Geothermal (received $98.5 million)
SunPower (received $1.5 billion)
First Solar (received $1.46 billion)
Babcock & Brown (an Australian company which received $178 million)
Ener1 (subsidiary EnerDel received $118.5 million)
Amonix (received 5.9 million)
The National Renewable Energy Lab
Fisker Automotive
Abound Solar (received $400 million)
Chevy Volt (taxpayers basically own GM)
Solar Trust of America
A123 Systems (received $279 million)
Willard & Kelsey Solar Group (received $6 million)
Johnson Controls (received $299 million)
Schneider Electric (received $86 million)

All you pro-coal folks need watch "The Last Mountain"

Since Romney stood outside a coal plan and said, "Coal Kills!" I guess it shows he doesn't care about the 100% not just the 47%. Greed does that you know!

Bill,

Where did you make up that number of 99%? republican math. I guess! There has been no research into how many of the companies went under, but you seem to have republican ESP!

Our President has be reduced to babbling like a darn fool... How sad...

So has Mitt and his "Folders of Women!"

Subject: Obamas Suicide Economy

Hi Everyone
In the middle of this article, Root list last months economic numbers. Very important read!

Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root forPersonalLiberty.com. As John Lennon might say, “I want you to imagine with me for a moment.”

Imagine a U.S. President presiding over a country in major economic decline: sales tax revenues plunging; unemployment growing worse by the month; petroleum sales (the foundation of our economy) sinking like a rock; GDP anemic; the real estate crash worse than the 1929 Great Depression; 40 percent of the net assets of the average American gone; prices for food and gas skyrocketing; and suicides going up so fast, they now outnumber deaths from car accident.

Imagine that. It’s unthinkable!

Now, imagine in the face of all that, the mainstream media claiming things are getting better, refusing to challenge the President when he repeats over and over again the lie that “we are in recovery” and viciously attacking the Presidential challenger for daring to criticize the incumbent President? You’d be insane to picture that set of circumstances, right?

Sadly, it’s happening right now. We’ve gone from the world’s greatest economic superpower to an Obama economy where Democratic leaders like Nancy Pelosi claim food stamps and unemployment benefits are economic activity. And in our final death throes under Obama we’ve become “The Suicide Economy.” That’s right. Americans are so happy and financially secure under Obama, they are committing suicide in record numbers. More people are now purposely killing themselves than die in car accidents — for the first time ever.

How bad is the economy? Here are the stats the mainstream media are covering up:

A month ago, California reported sales tax revenues plunged a shocking $539 million below expectations. That’s over a half billion dollars in one State, in one month. Does that sound like a recovery to you?

The jobless rate rose in 44 States in July, including nine out of 10 battleground States. In August, Nevada’s unemployment went back up past 12 percent again. Does that sound like a recovery to you?

The American Petroleum Institute reports that U.S. consumer demand for oil and other forms of petroleum in July was the lowest since 1995. Does that sound like a recovery?

The labor force participation rate for all workers is the lowest since 1981, but for men it’s the lowest in over half a century (since 1948). Obama’s campaign slogan is “Forward.” When it comes to jobs we are heading 55 years backward. Does that sound like a recovery?

“Help wanted” ads have collapsed in back-to-back months to the lowest levels since the Lehman Brothers financial disaster. Does that sound like a recovery?

Just days ago, we heard the terrible news thatdurable goods orders dropped a horrific 13.2 percent last month. That is a measure of factory activity. This was the worst drop since the throes of the deep 2009 recession. More signs of business off the rails under Obama.

The final sobering stat is that 37,000 Americans are now committing suicide annually under Obama — more than die in car accidents — for the first time ever. Does that sound like a recovery?

There are two conclusions to be drawn from all these sobering economic statistics, but especially the rise in suicides.

First, there is no recovery. We are in far deeper economic trouble than the media admit. I’m an entrepreneur, small-business owner and capitalist evangelist who happens to have a media megaphone. I can tell you from firsthand experience what is happening at ground zero of the economy. Business is what I do, what I live, every minute of every day. And I can report that it’s ugly (and getting uglier) on Main Street.

There are no jobs. There is no improvement in business. I predict that soon after the holidays (and the election), if the massive tax increases are allowed to take effect, the U.S. economy will suffer a dramatic collapse. The stats reported above are warning signs of a coming economic Armageddon. Is anyone listening?

But as bad as things are here, Europe is the real “canary in the coal mine.” Looking at the EU is like looking into a mirror to see America’s future under Obama. Just in the past few days, we saw in the headlines stories about what is unfolding in Europe: unrest in the streets, rioting, violence, one-third of the business in Athens out of business, middle-class people starving and scavenging through dumpsters in Hungary and Greece.

All of this pain and tragedy is caused by big government and big debt. By governments spending far more than they take in. Eventually, it catches up with you. Eventually, the investors of the world stop lending you money. And then, the crisis hits. All at once, your country goes from a normal existence to a Great Depression to a daily struggle for survival. Don’t look now, but it’s headed your way, folks.

Obama is leading us in the exact same direction as Europe. Obama’s plan is just Europe’s plan for the past half century. It’s just old, tired, worn-out, refried socialist failure.

The sales tax drop in California, the drop in petroleum product sales, the drop in factory activity, the drop in “help wanted” ads, the rise in depression and suicides: These are all signs of where we are headed. All the tragic economic statistics above prove that even Obama and the Fed cannot print enough fake money to paper over the truth — just as the European Central Bank and the IMF (International Monetary Fund) can’t print enough money to paper over the truth about Europe. The EU is broke, insolvent and about to experience an economic tragedy that history will talk about for centuries to come. And, of course, the EU is going to break up.

The second conclusion you can draw from the stats above is that the mainstream media are trying to protect Obama. They know that these bleak economic facts would doom Obama’s re-election. So they have imposed a total media blackout. You’ll never hear the truth about the state of our economy from the mainstream media.

Just consider if suicides were dramatically up under a Republican President like Reagan or Romney at the same time the economy was in free fall, what would the media say? They would not only make the connection, they’d be trumpeting this tragedy in bold headlines 24 hours a day. They would blame the suicides on the poor economy. They’d blame it on capitalism. They’d blame it all the spending cuts and lack of compassion of a Republican President.

So far, Obama gets a pass because of the biased, leftist media. But history won’t be so kind. There is only one way to describe what we are all living through.

Someday, history books will call this “Obama’s Suicide Economy.”

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. See you right back here next week. Same time, same place. God Bless.

Is Romney Pro-Choice? Nope... he's multiple choice. Coal is no different.

What a f@ckwad loser.

Yeh, yeh... we'll see who is sucking wind on NOV 6th. 270 is impossible for Robme and all you turds know it. Your crying has only begun.

Hey GCCal...if you're this angry today, I can't imagine how angry you're going to be when Obama wins. Seriously, you should relax some. That level of anger is unhealthy.

OneOfTheSane said:

Yeh, yeh... we'll see who is sucking wind on NOV 6th. 270 is impossible for Robme and all you turds know it. Your crying has only begun.

Really? And who is going to vote for Obama? Liberals? That's his strongest voting block...

Obama has lost:

60% of the Jewish vote (pro Israel)

25% of the black vote (religious blacks who are against gay marriage)

40% of the white vote ( bad economy)

100% of the conservative vote (bad policies)

do you liberals actually believe that your 26% of the voting public will keep Obama in office? Obama has 1/2 of the support he had in 08... the math doesn't support your desire to keep this failed president in office.

Romney's one chance at victory was theatrical waving of his finger at Obama. All he does is get up, bobble his head and state economy bad - Obama's fault. He never explains the reason for the job losses in 2008 and 2009 and he NEVER admits that all of the job losses (4 million in 2008 and 4.7 million in 2009) occurred at the end of the W. administration and the BEGINNING of the Obama administration. His big proposal for growth is a 20% tax cut that he realized about a month ago would completely bankrupt the government - so for the FIRST time he began to state that he could get ALMOST ALL of the revenue back by eliminating deductions - but he won't say which deductions. Wow, what an economic plan. It's sounds "like a pretty sketchy deal." (That's Obama being very gentlemanly describing what is really complete bull@!$%#.)

The simple truth is that because Romney lost on the theatrics and because he is a rude and arrogant prick, voters had more of an opportunity to consider his vacuous economic strategies. There is no meat on the bone. He is selling us a risky tax scheme combined with more defense spending. Where have we heard that before? The more he has to explain it, the funkier it becomes. His economic plan is like mold. It's been around forever, and it slowly but steadily destroys everything.

Brian... I suggest you look at the Electoral College map and then play around with it. CNN offers the ability to do just that. Romney and 270 are basically oil and water.

I can send you a coupon for 50 cents off of Kleenex if that will make you feel better. Just PM me.

to brian1956

EVERY woman I know is voting for Obama. Honestly...every one. I am a white, college-educated woman and EVERY woman I know is voting for Obama.

Chris...you must not know very many people......I'm in NJ, and I honestly think Romney is going to win here! Everyone I know voted for Obama in 2008.....now, everyone I know is voting for Romney

I know a lot of people. I know a lot of people in NJ who are voting for him, too. What part of Jersey are you in...Mendham?!

HopeisGone

Isn't it a silly thing to say that I mustn't know many people if every woman I know is voting for Obama? All emotions aside, you have to admit that your response wasn't logical. Why would you assume that the United States isn't large enough for both you and I to know MANY people who don't know one another??

OneOfTheSane said:

Brian... I suggest you look at the Electoral College map and then play around with it. CNN offers the ability to do just that. Romney and 270 are basically oil and water.

I can send you a coupon for 50 cents off of Kleenex if that will make you feel better. Just PM me.

I suggest you realize that the polls in this country have all been skewed democrat. Even with this, you should pay attention to Gallop that has Romney up by 6 points... that's beyond the margin of error. I don't rely on polls... I rely on what I see on the streets. I live in a predominantly democrat area... and I haven't seen one Obama sign... all I see are Romney signs. Liberals are relying on a behind the date Electorial College Map. They only get updated once per month... you are looking at pre-debate information. Obama clearly lost both debates... and Biden was off the charts ridiculous.

The numbers do not support you.

Chris - so what? The inner cities voting block will vote for Obama no matter what... When I see jewish people standing on the corners supporting Romney holding his photo, signs and the Jewish flag.... it tells me the dynamics of this election have changed. Especially when the drivers are honking like crazy holding their thumbs up.

I predict Romney in a landslide.

BrianB1956,

I predict Obama. That's the greatest thing about this country. We are all free to have opinions. We will find out on election day. One of our predictions will be right regardless of what the polls say.

Brianb1956

I predict Romney in a landslide.

I'm sure you do. FOX and Rush told you so.... So it must be true. lol

Ever wonder why the MSM is called the MSM? It's because they represent the MAINSTREAM, not the lunatic fringe.

Is Obama perfect? Of course not.

Is Romney trustworthy? Only if you hate Obama so bad that you are willing to hand over your life to a corporate raider who has already f@cked over thousands of Americans. Want more of that?

Chris, I made that remark because there is ALWAYS someone voting for the other side. I should have corrected my statement to say "most" everyone I know are "ex" Obama voters (some still cling on...no clue why?)

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As for where in NJ? .....not Mendham, lol....

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

I really don't know many women voting for Romney, either. He is doomed.

Sane,

It is not impossible but it is improbable. Right now Obama has a 2 to 1 odds of winning against Romney. That means Romney is twice less likely to win. Still the popular vote will be a down to the wire thing but in the end it is the EC that counts.

I believe the election will be close. We are country of sound bites and low information voters.

I am recently retired from the military and will be a new Obame voter primarily due to Romney/Ryan chicken hawk buster. I would hope others would learn something from the last decade of war and see the reaction and way went about this have been a significant waste of brave American blood and treasure. We clearly need to go after bad guys. But large invasions and nation building trying to make the world mini-me America has never work. Will we learn?

Given the underlying dynamics of the crash and great recession plus the condition of growth and world economy, I see no way for Romney/Ryan tax / economy to have much chance to work. So I am voting for slow steady improvement we seeing.

I am not opposed to tax reform., but we have to a congress that will do the right thing for a balance of increased revenue and decrease spending in a compromised.balance way to get overall budget in long term alignment -- versus extremes in either party

I just believe Obama is least harmful choice this time.

I also agree with comments that coals real problem is natural gas not regulations. To claim the whole clean coal mantra the industries must embrace cleaning up power plant with scrubbers and the like and not destroy large areas with mountain top removal methods. Problem is the cheap price of the gas and it large supply and that it is cleaner do not make coal attractive today

Bottom line is, coal is dirty. There is no such thing as 'clean coal'. That is like saying 'great disease'.

It is dangerous to extract, coal mines harm the environment. Then, when it is burned, it harms the environment AGAIN! Wrongme is not content to take us back to the 1950's. He wants to go all the way back to the 1650's when that was state of the art energy!

Why stop at coal? What about oxen? There are thousands, maybe millions of oxen out there just getting wasted! Gosh! I won't just fight for coal and oil! Gosh! I'll fight for oxen, too!! Gosh!

It is like he is Mr. Scrooge, doling out lumps of coal for his impoverished workers. This guy is stupid, dangerous, and he thinks nobody can tell. That's the worst part. I hate that smug look he practices in the mirror.

Let's see -

Women's Vote - Check

Latino Vote - Obama Check

African American Vote - Obama Check

40% White Vote - Obama Check

Union Vote - Obama Check

Firefighters & Policeman Vote - Obama Check

Teachers Vote - Obama Check

Youth Vote - Obama Check

Democrat Vote - Obama Check -

Granted Mitt does have a lot of Angry White Male Voters, Evangelical Voters, Mormon Voters, - but I would put them in the same pot of voters.

I much perfer to live in the USA where the Majority is made up of the Minorities. Diversity is a good thing - Obama's policies are for 100% of Americans. Not just a select group - It is not to late for the the rest of you to join the winning team.

Talk about a hypocrite:

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006

Don't you just love the little libs: It is always Romney flipping but never Obama. Rather he is just "evolving"

Seriously? You should be angry at the source; the Republican party. Americans are fortunate to have President Obama rather than Romney the flim flam man (no boy) He never had to grow up as his daddy always took care of him. Sad but true.

GCCal - the liberals live on their double standards. If they didn't have them, they would have nothing. I keep on asking liberals what Obama has done to deserve another 4 years... and all I hear is crickets... but that doesn't stop them from whining and crying about Romney every day of the week... all without even listing a single item that shows Obama deserves 4 more....

Yes I am serious srm1.............but you cannot see past the crap because you hide behind the glow of Obama.

Yes Brian.....it is just chip, chip, chip..........

Brian, I can give you reasons, my 40k is up, my health insurance premium is finally at the same rate as my male counterparts, my personal balance sheet is up by about 30%. I remember reading somewhere that the stock market and employment are kind of in sync, I mean that strong jobs usually follow a strong market. And the jobs situation is getting better. I think it is working. It is working for me.

The only failure is the house republicans saying NO to almost everything the President has wanted to do to fix the Bush/Republican historic mess that they left. Give President Obama 4 more years with the house and the senate under democratic control and you will see the country bounce back in fantastic form.

Obama/Biden and democratic leaders 2012

srm1 said:

Seriously? You should be angry at the source; the Republican party. Americans are fortunate to have President Obama rather than Romney the flim flam man (no boy) He never had to grow up as his daddy always took care of him. Sad but true.

What?? fortunate to have Obama??? are you delusional? What exactly has Obama done to help this country? Don't you even pay attention to the things around us? Bengazi alone should be enough to tell you that this guy is nothing but a cover-up liar. 14 days before he admitted this was a terrorist attack... when they knew it within the first 12 hours.... and now it was released today that members of the state department were listening to the attack while it was happening... Geeez... what does it take for liberals to wake up?

Hey Michael.........in 2006 every democrat including Obama voted AGAINST raising the debt limit. But in 2012 they voted for it......Why is that you might wonder. Because they just like the republicans are playing politics to stay in office. But you and the radical right cannot see what is really happening in DC because you are blinded. In your case by the Obama glow.

Michael-4273928 said:

The only failure is the house republicans saying NO to almost everything the President has wanted to do to fix the Bush/Republican historic mess that they left. Give President Obama 4 more years with the house and the senate under democratic control and you will see the country bounce back in fantastic form.

Obama/Biden and democratic leaders 2012

So you don't consider the Senate democrats a failure for holding up the house bills by throwing them onto Harry Reid's table? Isn't that obstruction? And you want to give 4 years more to the democrats? What the hell did they do in the first 2 years of Obama's presidency? They voted in a massive health care bill that the majority of Americans hate.... makes sense to me... NOT!

Sheila-846240

Brian, I can give you reasons, my 40k is up, my health insurance premium is finally at the same rate as my male counterparts, my personal balance sheet is up by about 30%. I remember reading somewhere that the stock market and employment are kind of in sync, I mean that strong jobs usually follow a strong market. And the jobs situation is getting better. I think it is working. It is working for me.

Sheila... do you mean your 401k? Sure it's up... it's up because the stock market is up.... what are you going to do when it corrects itself? It's bound to happen very soon too. The 13K stock market is over inflated and when it comes down... it will come way down. Maybe you don't know the history of the stock market... and what does Obama have to do with the Stock Market anyway? What policies has he set in place to keep the numbers high? I'll tell you... Nothing. The market is driven on 401K's.... I'd be very cautious about relying on it staying up... I wouldn't have my money tied up in the market right now... The only sure investment is precious metals.

Some areas of the country are doing OK... depending on where you live, you may be experiencing some growth... but.. if you understand the total economy, more areas are hurting extremely bad. Do you realize that since 2009 we've lost 2,900,000 construction jobs in this country? Do you think those people are feeling the jubilation you are feeling?

Barry had the ability to pass ANYTHING HE WANTED..... so why did he wait?

Seriously, he had control over the White House, the Congress & the Senate... where was his focus on "Hope & Change"?

Why did he wait until he could BLAME gridlock for his failures?

wow brian. you are such a positive guy. i know im doing better than i was 4 years ago. if you arent, maybe you should just work harder, and have a better attitude. a little positivity goes a long way.

I am not feeling jubilation, just a little more security. Some areas of the country are doing better, and you know who I give the credit to? To the local officials. My town is very small, but the town board and economic development council are always working to bring in business. They do a great job. Much better than the one just across the state border. And don't worry, I don't doubt the stock market will correct itself again, this time I will take my gains and hold at breaking even in fixed assets. I am concerned about the rest of the country, but I would much rather stay positive and hope we are on a slow sure path to getting better.

junkfood johnny

wow brian. you are such a positive guy. i know im doing better than i was 4 years ago. if you arent, maybe you should just work harder, and have a better attitude. a little positivity goes a long way.

I am a realist johnny. I look at $16 trillion in national debt and my eyes pop open when you realize how much money that is. Maybe you don't see it, or have decided to ignore it. Someone has to pay that money back, or what? We go bankrupt? What will that do to the world currency market and the dollar? What will you use to buy your bagels with? Maybe you don't buy bagels... but have you noticed the price of food in the stores? Maybe you don't buy food and live on water... I dunno. Inflation has just started rearing it's ugly head... Maybe you like paying $4.00 for a gallon of gas... or it could be that you walk everywhere you go...

Sure... I'm positive alright... I'm positive we are heading into a huge economic collapse if we don't change direction drastically... and with Obama we will not change direction...

Sheila-846240 said:

I am not feeling jubilation, just a little more security. Some areas of the country are doing better, and you know who I give the credit to? To the local officials. My town is very small, but the town board and economic development council are always working to bring in business. They do a great job. Much better than the one just across the state border. And don't worry, I don't doubt the stock market will correct itself again, this time I will take my gains and hold at breaking even in fixed assets. I am concerned about the rest of the country, but I would much rather stay positive and hope we are on a slow sure path to getting better.

Sheila... read my previous post... 4.15. Are you happy with what you are paying in the market? Bought a steak lately? How about chicken at $3.49 a pound? It seems everytime I go into the grocery market, prices are going up and up and up... That is an indicator we are in trouble... because the government doesn't use food in their inflation index... They hide the real costs of living. Their index only includes durable goods... and they are just now showing inflation is on the rise... Don't know if you remember the late 70's.

What part of free markets do some of you guys not understand? This summer, the midwest was hammered by a drought that caused corn prices to soar which btw is what feeds those animals you consider steak. This past spring, the berry prices went up due to a spring freeze in Michigan. And you guys want to blame whoever is president? Same goes for gas prices... look at the charts, the only thing they can really do is use our strategic reserves for short periods.

Unless you kids want to nationalize our energy like Chavez, all the drilling and oil pipelines in the world won't drop our prices. Keystone? I'm sorry, does that pipeline end in the heart of the US for our use? Heck no. It goes straight to the deep water ports of the Gulf to be shipped off to the global markets.

I've got plenty of things I wish Obama did differently (along with that worthless Congress) but to say he or any other president can have significant influence on these free market forces is a farce.

And Brian, while I can't say that things have improved as quickly as I hoped, there is a huge difference between 2008 and today. Back then the markets were crashing, banks were failing, and companies were shedding workers as fast as possible. Today, the markets have recovered and stabilized and large companies are hiring due to an optimistic outlook.

Again, not many people will argue that the last four years have been great, but I certainly haven't forgot how bleak things were four years ago. This isn't to say that Obama deserves all the credit, but he certainly didn't do worse than his predecessor.

http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/Gasoline_Inflation.asp

America has more coal reserves then any country on this planet. Why would any leading American official not exploit this??

The "Petro Dollar" is on it's way out. This country had better become self sufficient quickly..!!

When the "Federal Reserve" prints more Federal Reserve Notes to operate this administration's uncontrollable spending, generous foreign aid, and playing global cop, with nothing backing the newly printed notes but a promise from this government, the American people will experience hyper inflation. The consumer sees this in the doubling of retail prices across the board. Except for the stagnate wages.

Your savings will only buy half of what it would. Your K-401's and retirement accounts will only buy half of what it would. But the government still has it's thieving hand in this small section of finance as "Capitol Gains Tax". Another form of taxation on the American tax payer.

America can only hope for a change. We need a leader that puts America 1st..

"May God Bless!!"

What has President Obama done for America?

UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF PRESIDENT OBAMA, DESPITE GOP OPPOSITION AND PARTISAN POLITICING:

1. New housing starts: UP
2. Retail sales growth: UP
3. The Unemployment Rate: DOWN
4. Car sales: UP
5. Revolving Consumer Credit: UP
6. Gallup - Economic Confidence: UP
7. Consumer discretionary stocks: UP
8. Homebuilder stocks: UP (Highest since 2007)
9 Wal-Mart: UP (Surged past its 2000 high)
10. Home Depot: UP
11. University of Michigan - Consumer Confidence: 5 YEAR HIGH
12. Restaurant Owners Association - Restaurant Sales: UP
13. Case-Shiller - Home Prices: UP
14. War in Iraq: OVER
15. Access to Quality Health Care for All Americans: Available
16. Equal Pay for Women: NOW IS LAW

What have the Republicans done for America?

THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS BLOCKED THIS LEGISLATION

1. An American jobs effort to end government controls rewarding corporations that ship American jobs overseas. [Vote 19] - GOP BLOCKED
2. Build America Bonds to Create Jobs Now Act – [Vote 38, Vote 30, Vote 189] -GOP BLOCKED
3.American Jobs Matter Act – [Vote 257] - GOP BLOCKED
4.National Manufacturing Strategy Act, - [Vote 279, Vote 721] - GOP BLOCKED
5. Advanced Vehicle Manufacturing Technology Act - [Vote 310] - GOP BLOCKED
6. Currency Reform for Fair Trade Act - [Vote 9, Vote 199, Vote 780] - GOP BLOCKED
7. A measure to promote jobs and innovation at home, - [Vote 490] - GOP BLOCKED
8. A measure for middle class families, - [Vote 676] - GOP BLOCKED
9. A measure to support American Manufacturers - [Vote 693] - GOP BLOCKED
10. A measure that places a priority on keeping jobs in America: - [Vote 710] - GOP BLOCKED
11. A measure to protect at least 10,000 American manufacturing jobs - [Vote 715] - GOP BLOCKED
12. A measure to ensure that American materials, - [Vote 792] - GOP BLOCKED

AND THE GOP VOTED NO ON THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION

1. Sep 12 - S.3457: Veterans Jobs Corps Act, S.Amdt.2789 --- NO
2. Jul 17 - S.3364: Bring Jobs Home Act --- NO
3. Jul 11 - S.2237: Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act --- NO
4. Jun 29 - S.2237: Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act --- NO
5. Jun 5 - S.3240: Agriculture Reform, Food, and Jobs Act of 2012 --- NO
6. Dec 15 - H.R.3630: Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act of 2011 --- NO
7. Nov 30 - S.1917: A bill to create jobs by providing payroll tax relief for middle class families and businesses --- NO
8. Nov 3 - H.R.674: 3% Withholding Repeal and Job Creation Act --- NO
9. Nov 1 - S.1769: Rebuild America Jobs Act --- NO
10. Oct 6 - S.1660: American Jobs Act of 2011 --- NO
11. Sep 24 - S.3816: Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act --- NO
12. Aug 5 - H.R.5297: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010 --- NO
13. Jun 23 - H.R.4213: American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act of 2010 --- NO

There is more, but you get the idea. President Obama is succeeding REGARDLESS of the obstructionist politics of the GOP. America is finally on the right track thanks to this administration.

Obama / Biden 2012

What do you mean if? He will be re-elected and proud of his record.

If libbie........if.......the election is not over yet as much as you would like it to be. And to my question, who will he blame then??????????????????????? Try not to deflect.

dude ..your argument is getting old and stale. Try a new talking point or at least grab something from Wikipedia...hahaha

Outie................just like you argument that it is all Bush's fault has run it course.

The President doesn't have to blame the Bush Admin has taken ownership, and Chris Christy has yelled it from the mountain tops "our way is right and their way is wrong" that is why you and I are having this conversation.Republican =Freefall

ooooooh, smart Joseph....real smart. Except that is what he and the left have done everyday for the last four years.

Typical liberal..... cannot accept his own failures..... unable to see anything except his own viewpoint.... unwilling to reach out to thise that know more than him.....

Go home Barry.... and take Michelle with you..........

GCCAL:

What complete horse hockey. W. left us a huge recession (losing over 300,000 jobs a month) and then suddenly in September of 2008 the gasoline is poured on the fire when the banks start failing. And by December of '08, it was negative 650,000 jobs a month. And by Jan. of 2009 it was 800,000 jobs being lost. When you Republicans screw up, you screw up so badly. It wasn't just dumbass W. It was dumbass Phil Gramm and his two Republican co-sponsors that eliminated Glass-Stegall. If I were Obama, I would have gotten up every day and vomited fire on the GOP for the excrement THEY CREATED. The GOP's stupid, failed economic polices are crap that will "strangle the baby in the bathtub", a phrase Republicans have used since Reagan's cabinet laughed about it. In another words, they want to destroy everything the government does - OTHER THAN WAR! If you aren't a millionaire, then you are an idiot. If you are a millionaire, then your motivations are obvious.

Yet Romney gets on the horse... Obama throws Hillary on the saddle, ties the reigns around her neck, kicks them both in the ass and runs back inside to practice his debate lies.

@pjam09#6.1:Romney mounts the horse in the like fashion of a "horse fly" on the suck. If the President does practice debate lies, which with Romney I doubt such is necessary, He's real good at it. Sure made Romney look more like a damn fool than He naturally does for himself. Not an easy task "pjam". Regards

TopDrum......here's a penny for your thoughts....or should I say Obama's thoughts. And little libbie, I could not give a democRATS azz who cares.

then shut your mouth

Spoken like a good little demie, TopDrum.....all crap and no bite.

- GCCal

And you are all mouth and no brains! And the reason I can say that is becasue the first thing that comes out of your mouth is name calling. Just go back, set down and continue to drink the Fox news kool-aid. Because just like Eastwood's empty chair, it's a waste of time trying to educate you.

Sorry.....rburn....never ever watch Fox News....rather I watch what the democrats policies have done to California. And name calling.....I had good teachers from people on the left attacking me. So do I care what you think...not much.

One would think that with all of the media bias, supporters & success.... Obama would be leading Romney by 30-40 points.... the debates would be so one-sided that Mitt would have to hang his head in shame for even thinking about running against Mr Obama.....

So it should really concern all you libs that Romney has such a GREAT chance to BEAT Barry... and if the media told the truth.... Mitt is leading Barry by 25 points.... the landslide is coming Nov 6th.....

Only way for Barry to win now is for him to CHEAT....

GCCal:

Here's a proposition for you. You smash your brains on a rock today, but tomorrow someone using something will put your brains back in your head. With your brain, that would be easy. And yes it can be done. I know biology - trust me. It's just like when a woman is the victim of a "real rape." Her magic uterus shuts down. These things are possible - if we make the military bigger - and don't pay for it. It's just like, if you have a huge deficit, you DON'T want more revenue. Hell no, that's the last thing you want. Your weather vane is so smart and so are you - logic like steel. And if you lie about the past, you'll always look right in the future.

Well if America deserves better KK the Republicans should have ran an actual candidate rather than those far right wingers and religious hacks! The ONLY candidate that had a real chance of pulling pulling most moderate and latino voters away from Obama was Jon Huntsman and the tea party fanatics threw him under the bus really quick.

Nora, It is always quite amusing to see liberal Democrats ATTEMPT to tell us who our candidates should be. I guess that since Republicans ignored liberal ideas of who our candidates should be, that is why the "shellacked" the Democratic Party in November, 2010 !!!

The Democratic Party has swung so far left, they do not understand "middle-of-the-road" anymore !

More shellac anyone ?

What about the coal trains being run by Warren Buffett's company and the coal going to China @ rock bottom prices???

You need coal to make coke for steel...

China has only about a 40+year reserve of coal and most of it is low grade. It takes high grade coal (metallurgical) to make steel...

While Obama is pushing 'Green energy' which relies on 'rare earths'. China has been supplying 96% of the Worlds needs for 'rare earths' for over a decade...

Why would a US President support China's grab for resources and make the US dependent on China for resources/processing???

BTY - The WORLD has been converting to NG as a energy source for over 2+decades. While the USA - Democrats are chasing; ethanol, high-speed trains, and other solutions, that use MORE ENERGY...

China is also cutting back on exporting it's rare earths which will make opening up America's own rare earth market more profitable. The only reason we were using their rare earths is due to cost.

Your comment only proves your brain washed hatred.

And your comment OneOfTheSane proves that you are just one more of the lemmings following the leader off the cliff.

GCCal... I'm not a picky man. You can kiss ANY part of my ass.

You are the lemming... following am elitist arrogant prick whose only desire is to lie his way to power and ensure the middle class is destroyed in the name of his billionaire backers.

You really think the Koch brothers or Adelson give a rat's ass about YOU?

If I were to kiss you azz, it would be just below you nose, idiot. And you really think Obama, Pelosi and Reid gives a democRATS ass about you, dum, dum.

You didn't answer my question because you know I'm correct. You, on the other hand are simply RIGHT. lol

One................to answer you question...........I have no connection whatsoever with Koch or anyone else nor do I care a flip what they say or do. Satisfied? Probably not because you still cannot see past the glow of Obama so no matter what ANYBODY does, you will not see anything other than what Obama and the left TELLS you to believe.

Well you should care because they are spending nearly 500 million to con you RWNJs into voting for an empty suit that will say anything to anyone at anytime to get power.

Individuals don't spend THAT kind of money withouit having a very distict agenda. Think about it....

One,

Empty suit?? You looney left lovers will vote for Barry twice...now who is the moron!

Vote Romney!

The Mormon vs. The Moron

The Mormon and the moron are one and the same. And most of his followers fall into one if not both categories.

Actually, the moron is the other half of the Republican ticket if you want to phrase it with a catchy slogan. I personally think they're BOTH liars who will sell our country down the river just to make a quick buck or dismantle our nation to "rebuild it" without a Constitution without that pesky Bill of Rights (since they seem so determined to ignore it if someone isn't a White, Christian, Conservative MALE) and in the image of their REAL leaders. We don't need an Aristocracy or a Plutocracy. That is NOT what this country was built on, but it sure seems to be that the Republican leadership is trying to drive the country in that direction.

Cat,

And yet Obama picked a white male as a running mate...why is that?? Here he had a perfect opportunity to be more diverse, but yet he was too afraid that he would lose back in 2008, so he got himself a good ol white guy, right?

Actually One, that distinction of being a moron is held by the liberal left. It's ok to admit it, the rest of the country already knows it...

And TopDrum has a foot in both place....but that is to be expected.

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

"Less kids to mothers who can't afford them is good for everyone."

You are correct, fewer Democrats is good for all Americans.

Sheila - I've always wondered that. There's that annoying conflict where good solid fiscal conservative ideas now must compete with the far right's social conservative ideas.

But you loved Biden didn't you hypocrite?

Biden owned Eddie Munster, who is nothing more than a state Rep and major wannabe. On the other hand, Romney showed no respect for the OFFICE he desires to hold.

Last night made one thing clear.... do you want a President or a Boss?

Romney thinks government runs like a corporation, where he just fires all who get in his way. Doesn't work that way.

topDrum - Of course Romney doesn't like to get beat, who does? That is why he wins.

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

In his debate with Paul Ryan, Joe Biden came off looking like a total a$$hole ... rumor has it, he won the Preparation H AWARD ... a supersize tube to be spread all over his body ! Biden's constant smirking, making faces and interruptions of Paul Ryan are the big reason more female voters are now turning to the Republican ticket.

Paul Ryan showed his class, Joe Biden showed his a$$ !

Candy did say it louder today.....

"He was right in the main. I just think he picked the wrong word," - C. Crowley

Seems like Mitt was the one that had it right to begin with........

But TopDrum and his ilk love it.

^ exhibit A.

The depth of the liberal mind.

Actually everyone who watched the debate knows she was wrong... even she has stated she was wrong.

An Obama loss... a sign of an Obama loss!

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

Sorry, Bottom Kazoo, Candy Crowley totally botched it ..... first, by jumping in when she was supposed to be an unbiased, independent moderator, and then because she MISSED THE QUOTE from the Rose Garden !!

Even if Obama HAD said it was a terrorist act, why then would he spend two weeks lying about it and claiming that it was due to "spontaneous demonstrations" about a 17 min anti-Mohammed Muslim film ? Did Obama lie the very next day, or has he LIED REPEATEDLY over the weeks following the murders ????

We know the answer.... Obama has lied repeatedly and he has now been CAUGHT in that lie !

Next Mondays debate should be fascinating for team Obama ! Either way you slice it, Obama LIED and Mitt Romney will "mop the floor" with Obama for those lies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"help me, mommy, help me"

Yep.............he'll go home so he and Queen Ann can dump their money bags and count their millions. But they won't find one penny of integrity.

What garbage KJNC ! The debate was wild, and both candidates broke fast and loose with the rules as reported on THIS website. Obama showed no respect to Romney, and he got it back in turn. Obama whined about equal time, when the records indicated he talked about 3 minutes longer ! Michelle Obama violated the rules as well by clapping for her husband when Ms. Crowley botched her reply ..... and "bailed out" Obama as he was floundering. Clapping was supposedly outlawed by the rules, but the Obamas have proven to believe they are above the rules.

Attacks? Mr. Coal said that coal was bad when he was Governor of MA. Now it's good for a photo op. Just pointing out another flip-flop. Can't handle it?

Sharedfire: What we need from the President is policy not pettiness. I'll stand by my remarks until he shows me otherwise. He's just cheering to the crowd.

Thanks anyway

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

Congress

• Passes bills; has broad taxing and spending power; controls the federal budget; has power to borrow money on the credit of the United States
• Has sole power to declare war, as well as to raise, support, and regulate the military.
• Oversees, investigates, and makes the rules for the government and its officers.

Just a reminder:

President of the United States

• Is the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces
• Executes the instructions of Congress.
• May veto bills passed by Congress (but the veto may be overridden by a two-thirds majority of both houses)
• Executes the spending authorized by Congress.
• Declares states of emergency and publishes regulations and executive orders.

Assuming that the president actually wants to be "president" and not a celebrity in chief! He also needs to stop his whining and name calling where Mr. Romney is concerned. Obama sounds like an adolescent!

They were coerced! They were told to attend and they didn't get paid for the day. When Romney was MA Governor, he said coal was dirty. Flip-flop...

Sacred, you were duped and lied to yet again by your messiah, Obumbo...read on below

NIPCO.........coal fired plants, are doing just fine in Indiana.

BottomKazoo, You DO realize that new EPA emission standards go into effect next year don't you ?

I call it blackmail! The miners were coerced to write those letters under the threat of losing their jobs! Take your cut and paste comment spamming and bugger off! ;-)

Obama/Biden 2012

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle.

Romney won on everything related to leadership.

"Mitt Romney was seen as better able to handle the economy, taxes, and the budget deficit among the debate audience, but it seems that issues were trumped, or at least blunted, by intangibles, including the expectations game," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

By a 49%-35% margin, debate watchers thought that Obama spent more time attacking his opponent. The president was expected to be more forceful in attacking Romney following his lackluster performance in the first presidential debate in Denver two weeks ago.

Other questions showed little daylight between the two candidates among debate watchers on some key characteristics. Romney had a 49%-46% edge on which candidate seemed to be the stronger leader and 45%-43% margin on who answered questions more directly, while Obama had a 44%-40% advantage on which man seemed to care more about the audience members who asked questions."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/16/breaking-cnn-poll-obama-edges-romney-in-debate/

Cynthia...the Unions coerced the workers to all sign a letter (500 of them) in support of Romney stating that Obama is lying????? ....the Unions!!???? ....get real...WAKE UP!!

Cynthia - read the facts. The miner's WERE NOT coerced into writing these letters.

pjam09

Obama attacked his opponent more, failed to give direct answers more, and pandered to the crowd more.... just like any con-man does when trying to endear himself to those he hopes to swindle

Go ahead and vote for Romney then. I think America needs to learn a real hard lesson about where all of this hatred shown to Obama has taken us as a nation. And how dense it has made the minds of a large portion of the public. Surely hate cannot pay? America has never been governed from the absolute Far Right. While Romney vacillates between the lunatic fringe and the middle during this election he will be an afterthought should he win. We have seen the damage the extremist TP's have already done with just the House in their hands and yet those like yourself will be voting to give them free reign. It is the ultimate insanity and this nation will pay dearly if such a choice is made.

Vote for Romney and you will be the one who will eventually understand who is doing the swindling. I won't be joining you of course but I will likely be getting a big tax break. I recently bought into a small business that caters strictly to the wealthy. That group is going to be the only ones with much disposable income in a Republican world. You only have to look at the Bush years to see that reality. If you "create" a bunch of jobs in this environment they are going to be low wage service jobs. There are a slew of high tech jobs now available that are unfilled. But rather than spend on education the GOP is simply going to enrich the already successful. And history (not speculation) tells us what that means for the middle and lower classes.

Fuinny that you condemn Obama for attacking Romney in the 2nd debate when the opposite was quite true in the 1st debate. The president would have to be a fool not to counter. And he is no fool.