Romney: Obama failed to lay out second term agenda in debate

 

CHESAPEAKE, VA -- Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was eager to play up his Tuesday night showdown with President Barack Obama, accusing the president of failing to outline a second term agenda in their debate.

With only one debate with Obama remaining, Romney mockingly said that Obama had better hurry up and develop his plans.

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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney holds a campaign rally at The Grove, in Chesapeake, Virginia, October 17.

“Now I have to be honest with ya, I love these debates. You know, these things are great. And I think it’s interesting that the president still doesn’t have an agenda for a second term," Romney said. "Don’t you think that it’s time for him to finally put together a vision of what he’d do in the next four years if he were elected? I mean, he’s gotta come up with that over this weekend because there’s only one debate left, on Monday."

"I just think the American people had expected that the president of the United States would be able to describe what he’s gonna do in the next four years, but he can’t," Romney continued. "He can’t even explain what he’s done in the last four years."

NBC's Peter Alexander reports from Virginia, where GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney held a campaign event Wednesday.

Romney reworked the top of his stump speech today, re-litigating several points from last night's debate -- referencing specific questioners by name.

"Let me mention Philip – Philip was the first question of the night, you may recall, and he asked a question about the gasoline prices, and I pointed out they’ve gone well from roughly $1.86 a gallon when the president was elected to $4 a gallon," Romney said, quickly dismissing President Obama's argument that a rise in gas prices was tied to an improving economy. "I think it’s pretty clear, that when it comes to his policies and his answers and his agenda, he’s pretty much running on fumes."

Romney left unmentioned the issue and moment widely considered to be his weakest of the debate: the 9/11/12 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, and the timeline over which the president declared the attack an act of terror.

The overwhelming enthusiasm for Romney's first debate performance appeared to be muted at the candidate's first event today, with a crowd 3,500 cheering, but less wildly, for Romney's commentary on the debate.

Robert Gibbs, senior adviser for the Obama Campaign, joins The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd to talk about the President's performance in the debate, and touches on the President's debate remarks on the 9/11 Libya attacks.

"It was a little chaotic," Jennifer Broussard, a full-time mom from Chesapeake said of last night's showdown in New York.

"He did fair," Broussard said, by way of reviewing Romney's debate performance Tuesday. "He did wonderful in the first debate."

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Comment author avatarBackhouseExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

There's only so much time to cover issues - what with Mitt Romney bullying, bioching, railroading the refs, and lying like there's no tomorrow.

And trying to run out the clock with his memorized tinpot lines.

Any Romney specifics?

What about any specifics - that were true?

  • 135 votes
#1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

Backhouse,

Romney, where are you plans... Obama doesn't have to lay out any plans... I really liked what he has done the last 4 yrs....going from losing 850k jobs per year to gaining on average of about 175k/month... I'll say President can keep doing what he is doing. HCR passed; Fair pay act... and the list goes on an on...

btw, if you haven't already picked urs...I hear Romney's got a complete "binder full of women"....just take your pick...after-all 'women are objects' ala "mail order bride"... absolute rubbish.

  • 108 votes
#1.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:14 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbob-1805084Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Romney said, quickly dismissing President Obama's argument that a rise in gas prices was tied to an improving economy. "I think it’s pretty clear, that when it comes to his policies and his answers and his agenda, he’s pretty much running on fumes."

If 1.3% growth is the sign of an improving / healthy economy and justification for high gas prices .... imagine what the price for the demand of 23 million un-underemployed going back to work, business expanding at normal rates, normal growth demand ....

$8 as Chu suggested?

Yep .... and this is Obama's answer?

The guy is so clueless.

  • 70 votes
#1.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What about any specifics - that were true?

That sound you hear are the tires deflating on Willard's magical mystery bus!

  • 91 votes
#1.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSelf Educated VoterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I concur - The President already has a hell of a To Do list because of the last Administrations "8" years of deplorible policies and once the Congress gets off there obstructionist @$$'s and starts putting County First then I sure there will be plenty to do. Like vote in a couple of Supreme Court Justices - to shore up Roe Vs. Wade and overturn Citizen United.

I am fine with just keeping Chop Shop Mitt out of the oval office - that is one scary excuse for an American.

  • 103 votes
#1.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:21 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPat Boston MA.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Tunde, President Obama and his entire administration of actual grown ups have done a remarkable remarkable job.

I can't comment on Mitt's job. He doesn't work and hasn't since I think 2006. Even when he was our governor, he was MIA for most of it. And he put up a rope in front of his office so he didn't have to deal with legislators.

Even had his own elevator put in so he didn't have to face them.

The guy has a corrupt character. He really does.

He's creepy.

  • 100 votes
#1.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

Perhaps I missed something when examining the expectations of the duties of the POTUS. I wasn't aware the the POTUS was in control of each and every oil company in the U S and dictating what the price of gasoline would be at the pumps.

But it has become abundantly clear that oil companies and the GOP have been in bed together for decades. The GOP is stuck on the past so they fully support oil companies and what will give them the biggest boost to their bottom line. In the meatime, all of the people of the country are held hostage and having to pay three times as much at the pumps as when Obama took office. The oil companies want a president in office who will give them everything they want, so they have raised prices at the pumps without regard of what it does to every American automobile owner as they try to make our economy look worse than what it should be.

What we need is to have Obama repeal the laws which allow companies to hold America hostage with record breaking profits during his second term. There was a time when oil companies and others were held accountable for doing exactly what oil companies are doing to us right now. They used to pay "windfall profit taxes" for their pirating of the American people. We need to have that back so that oil companies will charge a reasonable amount for their product.

  • 84 votes
#1.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAnaBanana-1782128Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Angry "mad man" Mitt doesn't need to be in the white house with his 1950's attitude towards women. We can't go back now. We know who Obama is and what his plans are. Romney flips on everything and DID NOT work with Democrats. He vetoed 800 bills which they had to pass again with their large majority. He vetoed emergency contraception for women. EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION! Mitt has no core. He is just an angry old man.

  • 94 votes
#1.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:32 PM EDT
Comment author avatarZMan2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The only liar in Tuesday's debate was Obama.

He did NOT call the Benghazi attack "an act of terrorism" the day after it happened.

Instead he spoke about generic "acts of terrorism," and about making light of other people's religions.

Go read the transcript of the speech, like he challenged you to do. It PROVES that he LIED last night.

It's just like Goebbels told Hitler; the longer and louder you tell a lie, the more it becomes "truth."

The whole scene with Obama waggling his finger back at Romney last night was FRAUDULENT, becauseObama was LYING!

RERAD THE TRANSCRIPTS OF THAT ROSE GARDEN SPEECH! It proves he is a LIAR!

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

  • 84 votes
#1.8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPigotryExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Stay the Course: part of the President's plan is working, the other part was blocked by GOP in congress

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Vote the GOP BUMs out of congress.

  • 86 votes
#1.9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ana!

I ♥♥♥ your new avatar!

If looks could kill... lol

  • 33 votes
#1.10 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSelf Educated VoterExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Zman - just because you can't comprehend the English language doesn't mean that the President is a Liar - just means you aren't smart enough. Please don't vote and please don't reproduce. Thanks again - have a nice day.

  • 66 votes
#1.11 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarGermanGemExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama's old plan: spend, spend, spend

Obama's new plan: tax, tax, tax

  • 68 votes
#1.12 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWet WillyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

That Obama failed to lay out his second term agenda was intentional. He didn't consider it necessary since he doesn't have one and thought he could fare better in the debate by coming off as some cool guy with his usual flippant remarks. In plain English, style over any substance.

Besides, if he gets re-elected what we'll see in his second term is more of the same, only worse. The one thing we can all agree on is that if Obama gets re-elected, at the end of his second term the national debt will easily exceed 20 trillion dollars.

We just recently hit, to the dismay of many, the 16 trillion mark and we're already almost 20 percent of the way to 17 trillion.

Re-elect Obama and we'll all be stumbling towards the abyss and the irony is that it is his mindless and gullible supporters that will suffer the most.

  • 74 votes
#1.13 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarrukidding47Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If one can't look back four years and see the lies of this administration then they are clueless and need not vote or reproduce as someone above mentioned. Unemployment is bad and you can hide behind the fudges numbers and claim a hollow victory but it is still bad. I want to see this tax break Obama was talking about for the middle class of $3.500 dollars. My taxes went up under his "plan" everyone I know taxes went up and I am very low middle. My wages have been frozen for two years and everything went up under his watch. Gas, Food Electricity. I am worse off then I ever was thanks to this mans "helping the middle class" How do you answer that?

I have a daughter entering college next year. I want her to be able to get a job after she graduates. There will be no jobs if this guy gets re-elected.

Everyone I know wants there children to have it better then they did. That dream is gone under Obama. He has saddled my children with debt and a very bleak outlook for them.

It is time to wake up America. This idea is not working. Hope is not a plan. Let the grownups take over and help give our children an America to be proud of.

  • 69 votes
#1.14 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarLanikai RonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

We all know that the next four years, if Obama is elected, will be exactly like the past 4-years. It's all about policy and Obama has no clue how to right this economy.

  • 65 votes
#1.15 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:55 PM EDT

Romney is so delusional, he has a lot of nerve asking Obama to be more specific when he and hulk wannabe hasn't mentioned one specific on how they pay for those tax cuts and increase in military spending.

Robme is out of touch, he looked like a spaz just like in Denver, trying to bully Obama and Crowley. Waaaaaa Waaaaaaa I am used to getting things my way Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaaa

  • 62 votes
#1.16 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

@backhouse;

Yes there is only so much time in a debate. Obama has a budget already for 2013 .

We are moving forward I do not wish to start over with someone new . I believe the forward progress will continue over next four years.

I need a date tonight, I better get my binders out. lol

  • 54 votes
#1.17 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:04 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJan-804443Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

German Gem, you need to stop bleaching your hair, it seeps into your brain!

  • 33 votes
#1.18 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

Mitt has a plan, it's called trust me! He has been asked over a hundred times which loopholes and deductions he would close to pay for his tax cuts for the rich, he hasn't answered yet!! This man is like a used car salesman! He wants to sell you a car, but he doesn't want you to test drive it!! Trust me, you can't trust him!!

Obama 2012 and hopefully getting the House and the Senate Democrat again!!

  • 58 votes
#1.19 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

Considering the only plan the republicans had was to make Obama a one term president, it's not real surprising Mitt's plan is a little barren on specifics...

  • 56 votes
#1.20 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

We all know that the next four years, if Obama is elected, will be exactly like the past 4-years. It's all about policy and Obama has no clue how to right this economy.

No, we don't. Most of us have some sense of perspective. For the better part of Obama's first term, we were reversing the enormous backward momentum this country was carrying after eight years of failed Bush policies. The sole reason why Obama's job score is near zero and not plus five million is because of the massive job losses in the first months of his presidency, which he could have done absolutely nothing to prevent. Obama's second term won't begin with 800k+ job losses a month, as he inherited for his first term: it will begin with net job gains, which will pick up as the economy continues to distance itself from the near depression we had.

In many aspects, these past four years have been more productive than practically any other president's term since, perhaps, LBJ. Whatever negative feelings you have about them, they can all be traced back to the maladies Obama inherited, not to to anything he did himself. If I were to ask you what exactly Obama has done that has negatively affected the economy, you'd give me shallow, generic, misleading answers like "he's been hostile to small businesses" and zero specifics, because the truth is that there is nothing specific he has done you can use to justify your holding him responsible for the high unemployment or anything like that. Overall, were it not for him, we'd be vastly worse off, perhaps barely getting out of a full-blown depression.

And no, I don't care how tired you are of hearing the old "it's Bush's fault" argument. Just because you get tired of hearing that the sky is blue doesn't make it red. Likewise, just because you get "tired" of people pointing fingers at Bush doesn't invalidate the point that Obama inherited a terrible economy as opposed to creating it.

  • 55 votes
#1.21 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

The republicans are OBSTRVCTIONISTS

& Mitt has no real plan


...I'll take the course were on...It's getting better...

Just look at your mutual funds present value.


Barack & JOE




  • 50 votes
#1.22 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:12 PM EDT
Comment author avatarAmerican SocialistExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Lol...keep f*cking that chicken mitt.

Funny how mitts policies during the debates completely contradict everything he has been saying for the past year.

  • 40 votes
#1.23 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

I pointed out they’ve gone well from roughly $1.86 a gallon when the president was elected to $4 a gallon," Romney said

What you all ignore in this whole meaningless gasoline issue is that George W. Bush faced the same crisis. In June of 2008, gas prices went over $4 a gallon, too. George W. Bush stepped up to the plate and managed to lower gas prices to below $2 a gallon... by trashing the American economy!

Doubtless Mitt Romney has the same solution in mind. No, thanks!

  • 48 votes
#1.24 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

Two major national presidential polls are out today. Several statewide polls are also out as well. In the Gallup presidential tracking poll Mitt Romney had a 6% lead among likely voters and a 2% lead among registered voters. When likely voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 45% compared to 51% for Mitt Romney. When registered voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 46% compared to 48% for Mitt Romney. Third party candidates combined with undecided voters were at 4% among likely voters and increased to 6% when registered voters were included in the presidential poll. Gallup released their presidential tracking poll at 1 p.m. ET, Wednesday, October 17, 2012.

Rasmussen Reports presidential tracking poll had Mitt Romney with a 1% lead nationally. President Obama was at 48% compared to 49% for Romney. Third party candidates were at 1% and undecided voters were at 2% nationally. Rasmussen Reports released their presidential tracking poll this morning, October 17, 2012.

  • 30 votes
#1.25 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

Obama agenda for new term.....

1) Complete bankruptcy of United States

2) Indoctrinate students, immigrants, "undocumented workers", women, minorities into idea of changing Constitution

3) Pass Gun Confiscation... I mean Firearms Protection Act

4) Remove all remnants of prior freedoms

5) Keep them all in the dark until the take-over is completed

  • 50 votes
#1.26 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

Steve-446003...

You need mental help...seriously

  • 45 votes
#1.27 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

I have read a few of the comments so far, but I don't see any comment regarding the fact that Romney, while out on the stump(read the article) said he wanted to talk about Phillip, who was the first question of the night. That is completely wrong and I knew it when I read it so I went to youtube and sure enough, as I remembered it, it was Jeremy Epstein, the young college kid, THE FIRST question of the night was about if he would be able to get a good job coming out of college. Now, if Romney can't even remember back just a few hours ago what the first question was, or even worse, if his own handlers can't even prepare him to meet and talk with the people they want voting for him, why in the hell would I want this man to be president?!

  • 47 votes
#1.28 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

@steve;

I do not believe one thing you have mentioned a president could do on his own if he wanted too. Sounds like you need to take the tin foil off sir. Wait a minute on second thought leave it on, you will feel much safer.

  • 29 votes
#1.29 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

To all the people who actually see what is going on with our country, for the sake of everyone in this country, I hope we outnumber the people voting democrat at the polls next month.

Romney 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 34 votes
#1.30 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

Romney has a binder full, all right ... a binder full of canned retorts that have nothing to do with the questions being asked!

Romney said that it was NOT the job of the president to create jobs - that the government COULD NOT CREATE JOBS. Then he said that HE would create jobs as PRESIDENT. Huh?!?

Romney said that he had a 5-step program to "fix America", but would not give any specifics or details. Guess it's a "secret" plan. Anyone who believes he has a real plan needs to join a 10-step program.

Romney insisted that we look at his record. "If people want to know what I stand for, they can look at my record as governor." ~ Mitt Romney

Okay, let's see...

Under Gov. Romney, Massachusetts fell to 47th out of 50 in job creation:

Before Romney's time as governor, Massachusetts ranked 36th out of 50 in job creation, but over the course of his tenure the state dropped to 47th out of 50, even as the national economy was growing.

Gov. Romney created or raised over 1,000 taxes and fees:

Though he promised he wouldn't raise taxes as governor, he increased taxes and fees by as much as $750 million per year, leaving the average taxpayer to pay an extra $1,227 in state and local fees and taxes. During his first year in office, Romney raised fees on milk, driver's licenses, hospitals, nursing and barber licenses, and even on the blind.

Gov. Romney left behind a huge budget deficit:

Romney broke his pledge to balance the budget and left his successor, Gov. Deval Patrick, with a $1 billion budget deficit. Long-term debt increased by 16% over Romney's four-year term, and he left Massachusetts with the highest debt per person in the nation.

Romney's approval rating when he left office as governor was at 34%.

People have said that we need a "businessman" to lead our nation. That is a short-sighted thought. In business there is either an owner making all the decisions or a CEO with a Board of Directors making the decisions. (Despite the lip service they pay it, Boards are not really too interested in what the stockholders want or say). The object of a company is to make money for the owner(s), CEOs, Board members and, to a lesser extent, the stockholders. The public, in general, is just something to be manipulated, used or ignored.

Within our nation there are millions of people and our elected officials have the duty to do what is best for the majority of those citizens. The duty of the president is to be responsive to the people of the nation.

It is NOT about the CEO [read: president] or the Board [read; Congress / Senate] or the stockholders [read: the 1%] making huge amounts of money at the expense of 99% of the citizens.

Mitt Romney has made his disdain for the middle class clear when he thought he was out of earshot of them and was with his own kind.

President Obama has made his compassion for the middle class clear. He is not in the pocket of the 1% - he is standing up for the 99%.

Obama / Biden 2012

  • 51 votes
#1.31 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

I really liked what he has done the last 4 yrs....going from losing 850k jobs per year to gaining on average of about 175k/month...

Me too - but it was 850k jobs PER MONTH (February, 2009).

If 1.3% growth is the sign of an improving / healthy economy

Actually, the growth rate in the quarter immediately prior to the 2009 inauguration was -9%. NEGATIVE NINE PERCENT. So, technically it is a sign of improvement and we have every reason to believe it will continue to get better, Mr. Romney's BS notwithstanding.

  • 29 votes
#1.32 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

americansocialist, you need a life...seriously. Right on Steve! For all of you silly liberals, blinded by your love of Mr. Obama, get ready. You're little dog and pony show is about to be over.

  • 28 votes
#1.33 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

Romney is now the “Leader of the non-working, do nothing, filibustering GOP controlled congress with an all time low approval of 7%.”

With a record 500+ filibusters, PLEDGES to NEVER generate more cash for the government, ZERO compromises, voter suppression and intimidation, creating war on women, and with NO record of any accomplishments or anything done for the country in 40 years.

The undecided voters keep ignoring or are not aware that the REAL culprits behind the slow recovery on the economy and jobs are the “obstructionist” Republicans controlling congress with cloture and filibusters to stop job legislation and halt Obama’s agenda to fix the economy.

Only a "super majority" can stop the Republican obstruction of the past 3 years.

Obama doesn’t have a supermajority, Obama only has the senate by ONE and the GOP owns the house and CONTROLS all legislation.

We have a communication problem if these undecided voters are not aware that the GOP has done NOTHING but get in the way of passing bills to promote job and economy growth.

Remember that the President doesn't pass the bills, he just signs them.

Obama has a 51% approval and has been waiting for job bills on his desk to sign but the GOP losers just won't pass any.

Stop blaming Obama. Put blame where blame is really deserved, on the 7% GOP owned congress.

  • 41 votes
#1.34 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

Mitt: You're not the President yet. Unlikely you'll ever be. You are running though. Don't think you should concern yourself with the Presidents agenda for a 2ed term. Serve yourself much better to actually show us how your deals are not steals.Tell us the specifics of just some of your bullsh^t. Tell us how you would block domestic oil production from being sold on international commodities markets. Mitt, You are the most nonsensical son-of-a-bitch to ever run for the Presidency. I have no reason to believe you actually know your ass from from the exit end of a shotgun about those things of which you speak. Pitiful!

  • 28 votes
#1.35 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

We had three debaters, team Obama/Candy vs Romney. Candy bias with inconsistent fact check , which she did only once and did it wrong. Obama never did an statement , he did an speech in the Rose Garden the day after. Obama never said in clear words . OUR CONSULATE IN BENGAZHI SUFFER A TERRORIST ATACK ON 9/11 KILLING AMABASSADOR STEVENS , UN Ambassado Rice apear in more than 5 shows telling that it was an expontaneus reaction to the Mohamad video. also in an interview . Obama spoke man said ....

“Q: No, I just hadn’t heard the White House say that this was an act of terrorism or a terrorist attack. And I just –

MR. CARNEY: I don’t think the fact that we hadn’t is not — as our NCTC Director testified yesterday, a number of different elements appear to have been involved in the attack.”

Carney’s “we hadn’t” statement “actually affirmed Gov. [Mitt] Romney’s position that the White House did not call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism,”

  • 22 votes
#1.36 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

Just read the fact-checks. Romney was wrong about energy production (it is up in Federal areas 13%), he was wrong about Detroit (his method would have forced GM and Chrysler out of business), he was wrong about gas prices (when Obama took office, the world was in the grip of a financial crisis and crude prices - and gas prices along with them - had plummeted because world demand had collapsed. With the return of the US economy has come the return of gas prices to what they were before the collapse), he was wrong about his tax cuts not coming from the middle class ("he says he would pay for the tax cuts by reducing or eliminating tax deductions...but he can't achieve all of his goals under the budget rules presidents must follow"), he was wrong about the effects of Obama's 'spending' (you can only say he doubled the deficit if you count 2009 - the budget for which had already been approved before he took office. When you look at Obama's budgets, he cut the deficit by $380 billion. No republican since Eisenhower has cut the deficit. The only other president to do so in the last 50 years was Clinton, who cut it $450 billion.) And, of course, he was wrong about Benghazi, as anybody who understands the english language knows by now.

I've been watching this campaign for about 1 year now, and the longer it goes on, the less I know what Romney wants. He has taken all sides of just about every issue, and that's just in the last 6 months.

As for Obama, since the recession he inherited bottomed out, he lowered unemployment by more than 2%, he created more than 5 million jobs, consumer confidence is rising, housing starts and prices are rising, manufacturing jobs are coming back, the deficit is going down, healthcare increases are slowing, nobody is talking about a 'double dip' recession anymore, everything is moving the right direction. Our allies respect us again, which makes us safer, millions who could not get healthcare now have it. Small businesses starts are way up, energy production is way up, and he has strongly defended women's rights on both economic and social issues.

Oh yeah, I'll take 4 more years of healing America, over the guy who is clear about only one thing: that he wants to go back to trickle-down economics.

  • 31 votes
#1.37 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

@bo; Please do not clog up vines as you did last night with mile long repost, you were the cause of the deletes,I tried to stop you. they deleted 1 and 2 because of you.

  • 5 votes
#1.38 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

Romney wants some new ideas from Obama, so he can shift again, quickly adopt the ideas and call them his own. His own 5 (1) point plan is hollow, just empty platitudes. Without substance or any way for the mathematics to work. Bluster, bravado, and falsehoods are all he has. A snake oil salesman.

  • 17 votes
#1.39 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

Obama didn't layout his plan for the next four years because its no different than the last four years. "......slow to no job growth full steam ahead...and while we're at it let's increase taxes, that's the ticket...."

There's a fiscal cliff heading our way....and its going to be bad.... real bad if our lawmakers don't get on the ball.

  • 25 votes
#1.40 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

If you believe Romney's comment about searching his "binders of women's folders", then you're the among the most ignorant fools on this planet. He doesn't even come across as sincere, just a flaming J.A. And for those who still can't make up their mind as to whom to vote for at this late in the game, then they are doing nothing but grandstanding for their 15 minutes with the "Hall of Fame" on National TV. Perhaps, too, this is just a media political pandering scheme to keep their ratings high through using the undecided voters to gain their objectives. If you don't know whom to vote for by now, then perhaps you have no business voting at all.

  • 19 votes
#1.41 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

Romney didn't hear Obama's plan for the next term because he was too busy over-talking and listening only to himself. I think his really big faux-pas of the debate was not the "binders" or "acts of terror" it was his dismissive autocratic answer to Crowley on the her follow-up question to his tax plan math. Romney instead of answering a very interesting and important question (paraphrasing)on "what happens if the "math" doesn't go exactly as planned?" would rather chastise the person asking the question with an indignant (again paraphrasing) "Who the hell are you to question me; my math is never wrong" response. Add this answer to his 47% statement and you can really see how much contempt Mitt Romney has for women, the middle class, and anybody that doesn't offer the potential for personal profit.

  • 18 votes
#1.42 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

NPCDan...

Oh I have a life...its called thinking for yourself and not being a brainwashed red sheep.

You should give it a try ;)

  • 11 votes
#1.43 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

Zman.

Karl Rove is the student of Goebels, and it appears that the student is now the master.

American Crossroads is irresponsible for the content of this message.

  • 16 votes
#1.44 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

Not that Mitt bought his own gas or that the price matters to him, but the price of gas topped out at 4.12 per gallon during July, 2008. Bushes last year in office. Another lie debunked.

  • 14 votes
#1.45 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS A second term Agenda which is to keep Repairing the damge done by You MittTaxPittanceRommel and your sidekick Lyin'Ryan, A PROVEN Psychopathic LIAR, Back from KingGeorge TheVacuumBrained days during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001-2008. So Go Get'Em Prez O!!! We're countin' On Ya!!!!!!
And For the Very Few NAIVE American voters who are thinking of voting for Mitt Tax Pittance Rommel and Lyin'Ryan out of desperation and hope that these two MONSTERS will rescue your life, Better look AT THE FACTS. CountDracula and EdddiMunster are going to keep the bush TAX EVASION BONUSES In Effect: with TheCount's Crappy EXCUSE? "I won't LOWER the taxes on the Rich!!!!" Well, Thanks Count, as you 1-10% and Corporate rich already pay the Lowest taxes in American History and the rest are on the Backs of working people @37%. And! AND!! AND!!! Gas and Oil Prices???? What a Sucker Punch at Voters. The Count and EddiMunster PERSONALLY Dreamed up the
$4.00p/g at the pump to blame it on Prez O. JUST WHO do you voters think SETS Gas& Oil prices, "Healthcare" policy prices, Hiring, Job/Career Outsourcing, Burger Flipping pay for NET $4.50p/hr while The Count and his
Aristocrat/Elitist republicanCrimecartel Soldiers are SUCKING YOU DRY for
$4.00p/gal gas and oil,$1100.00p/m for "healthinsurance" and ALL Sources of
life need products and services. Here Is a Very VERY Helpful Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage

PhantomBeast is AMAZED with you desperate and naive voters whom the Count and his sidekick Lyin"Ryan, are trying to manipulate into shooting yourselves through the butt.

  • 17 votes
#1.46 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

Romney campaigned for a year on cutting taxes for the wealthy to stimulate job growth. Now he says he won't. He said he supported the Blunt amendment, which gives women's healthcare coverage decisions to employers, now he says he doesn't. He said he wants to repeal the Dodd-Frank market regulations, now he says he's all for market regulation. He called the Arizona immigration laws a 'model for the nation', now he says he only meant a part of the law. He said he would repeal Obamacare, now he says he would only repeal part of it, and keep the parts people like (without saying, of course, how he would pay for it without an individual mandate - which, by the way, he was for before he was against). He said for months that he was 'severely conservative', now he says he a bipartisan moderate. He said the Israel/Palestinian problem is not solvable, now he says he can solve it. He said he can't worry about the 47% of the nation who he will never convince to take personal responsibility, now he says he cares about 100% of the nation.

My head is swimming, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Printing all of his flip-flops would be so long it would collapse this thread. Just what does this guy believe? Almost the only thing I know for sure is that he believes he wants to be president. Why? Nobody knows...

  • 14 votes
#1.47 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

Anyone, who is as disrespectful publicly toward the President and the monitors as Romney demonstrated with his disgraceful behavior that was totally lacking with personal charisma during the debates, will be even worse if ever elected. We don't need another Gestapo Bush telling us what we need to know or not know (Or has your limited memory capabilities already forgotten that?) He displays nothing more than a hypocritical flaming Jack A$$ tendencies and a user of women. Then he says he was a Pastor using religion again to gain his personal agenda!?!? Guess he certainly doesn't practice what he preaches when it comes to blatant lying. We need someone with standards above what he has displayed with his most inappropriate behavior.

  • 18 votes
#1.48 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

I disagree with most of the liberals here. Mitt could be successful if we elect a House and Senate that is 87% Democrats like he had in Massachusetts. That way they could pass the laws we need and override every veto, the same way he made so many improvements in Massachusetts.

  • 9 votes
#1.49 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

Obama said the 4+ trillion deficit that Bush left was bad- he is correct and his promise to reduce it was commendable.

the debt is 16+ trillion and growing, this must be new (Dem) math, lol.

Obama was correct when he said Bush debt was bad, we can say Obama's debt level is bankrupt bad; but I am glad to hear that you Dem say things are "better";o)

  • 15 votes
#1.50 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

So no answer on why my taxes go up when Obama said they went down?

No answer on why fuel has doubled?

No answer period from the left. Thats why Obama is done.

  • 21 votes
#1.51 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

rukidding47 - Are you kidding? See post 1.45. Or are you paying 8.24 a gallon for gas? If I were you I would get off the computer and look for another gas station.

  • 12 votes
#1.52 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

Romney did lay out his agenda !! You can't say he didn't lay out how he would balance the budget because he did in the debate last night.

He wants to remove all tax on capital gains, remove all tax on inheritance lower taxes 20%, That was just three that I can remember. No Inheritance tax and no capital gains will keep the weathy richer than they are now and almost all their wealth come from inheritances and capital gain so that way they will be completely tax free.

  • 10 votes
#1.53 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

Same ol' leftists on this NBC Loves Obama Club site... Same ol' ridiculous cliches from the "Fisty Redhead" and her a-kissing companions, "American Socialist" and "Pigotry" (really?)...

The truth is that all your cynicism, distortion of facts, and lies, will not get your Emperor new clothes... nor any new votes for that matter.

  • 14 votes
#1.54 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

rukidding: it would be a mystery why your taxes have gone up when your effective tax rate has gone down. Did you make a lot more money? Did you make more income from real work than from investments last year? Are you lying to make a partisan political point? Those are a few options. Mine have gone down.

On the gas, an AP report today might provide an answer: "When Obama took office, the world was in the grip of a financial crisis and crude prices - and gasoline prices along with them - had plummeted because world demand had collapsed. Crude oil prices have since risen even as U.S. oil production has soared in recent years because global demand is reaching new heights as the developing economies of Asia use more oil."

And ir12 is right; prices still haven't reached their Bush era peak, probably because our production is 'soaring'.

  • 11 votes
#1.55 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

All I've heard Mitt do is talk about his 5 step plan and a bunch of numbers out of thin air. Energy plan: will create 3,000,000 new jobs! How?

I will reduce the piece of ink and create 1,000,000 new tattoo artists. I can do the same thing!

  • 13 votes
#1.56 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

Tunde Akins said,

I'll say President can keep doing what he is doing. HCR passed; Fair pay act... and the list goes on an on...

Here is what REALLY is happening...

Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

Mon, Oct 01 2012 By JOHN MERLINE

Despite repeated promises that he would build prosperity from the bottom up, President Obama has presided over three years of income losses for the middle class, according to the latest household income data from the Census Bureau.

Since 2009, the middle 20% of American households saw their average incomes drop 4%. In 2011 alone, they fell 1.7%. The poorest 20% have fared even worse under Obama, Census data show. Their incomes have dropped more than 7% since 2009, and are now lower than they've been at any time since 1985, after adjusting for inflation.

These results are in direct contrast of what President Obama said his policies would produce when he ran for president in 2008.

Here's another dose of reality...

Obamacare: $27.6 Billion in New Regulations

Washington Free Beacon Staff

A new report released by the American Action Forum shows Obamacare has imposed $27.6 billion in new regulations. Most of the burden of these new regulations will fall on private entities: “at least $20.4 billion in lifetime costs on private entities and $7.2 billion in increased burdens on state budgets,” according to the report.

Besides the added costs on states and private entities, the 85 new Obamacare regulations will require more than 60 million hours of new paperwork.

Twenty states will lose the equivalent of 300 full-time employees’ worth of work to filling out ACA regulatory red tape. Additionally, 27 states have a burden of over $300 million in new regulatory costs.

And costs will only go up from there. The report notes that these new regulations likely “represent a cost floor, and not a ceiling to implement the ACA.”

This is just a quick look at what is REALLY going on in this country, but you can't see it because your blind in one eye and can't see out of the other!!

It's time to turn the page on this failed presidency...

The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more!!

  • 13 votes
#1.57 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

Obama's assertion that he proclaimed Benghazi to be a terrorist act the day after and yet Susan Rice, Hillary and Carney were are all explicit afterwards in still saying it was a spontaneous riot in response to the video is a flagrant bare faced transparent lie. This administration lies and spins so much they can even keep their lies straight anymore.

  • 11 votes
#1.58 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

And yet, Obama did call it an act of terror the day after, and promised 'justice' for it. Just watch the video. What is getting between your ears and your brain? Is it paranoia, partisanship, wishful thinking?

  • 13 votes
#1.59 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

I must admit one moment of disappoint in the debate. Romney said he would continue to support Pell Grants. Really???? Has he never read the Ryan budget he supports? That was a 40 mph fastball in the middle of the plate.

  • 11 votes
#1.60 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

@Coral Taxi

They deleted the posts that I started not because of the long posts.

They could've just been collapsed.

It was obviously personal.

A Romney fan IT guy.

Because my posts had tons of likes and someone got upset.

Why else.

  • 7 votes
#1.61 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

The only way the Romney ticket can get elected is by telling more lies and hiding their true agenda which we all saw and heard when he was running for the nomination with the other clowns.

Not only does the president need to be reelected, but we need to give him a democratic congress without the Blue Dogs like last time. The Democratic party turncoats are responsible for the lack of moving forward. This time we need to get people in congress, even if they be Republicans, that are patriots and not A Holes working for the Company Store.

I knew as did many others that Bush/Cheney would lead to exactly where it did. Romney and his bodybuilder are far more dangerous. I have NO DOUBT that a Romney ticket will lead to civil violence. Americans are used to a level of freedom they will not go below. Even Republicans and Tea Baggers will not stand for the kind of administration and kiss ass Supreme Court they will give us. True Conservatives, as few as there may be, need to side with Obama, a man that is down the middle and loves this country more than our trading partners and the International Corporations seeking to have all the power.

Getting Obama another 4 years should not be a partisan issue. BTW: Obama may be Right of Reagan.

Even before we get the jobs we need very badly, we first need to get our politics in order. As things stand, the only operative free market is for the purchase of our governmenment and through that the country. That means de facto slavery.

Romney will give us endless unpayable personal and governmental debt to the extent we will owe everything and own nothing.

  • 14 votes
#1.62 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

In 2008 the President made more than 500 promises but it seems that during this campaign he has been less ambitious. Most of what I hear is about how bad the Romney is that the President's campaign invented. Too bad for the President that he had to debate the real Romney. During his nomination acceptance speech the President said that we would bring the troops home in 2014 and money saved we would start paying down the National Debt. But the White House is predicting huge deficits for more than a decade. The President promised that the 2012 federal deficit would not exceed 229.27 billion dollars. Since he missed it by almost a trillion dollars the President does not have much credibility when it comes to the budget. This additional trillion dollars, I estimate, will end up costing the tax payers 10 trillion dollars to repay over the next 180 years. The President wants to increase taxes on the "rich" but this increase of taxes on the rich will at best net 100 billion dollars per year which will not come close to closing the budget gap. Apparently the President wants to spend more money. He wants the unemployed to be better educated. He wants better roads and bridges and high speed trains that the unemployed can use to get to their nonexistent jobs.

  • 8 votes
#1.63 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

Mitt's own words:

And if we do that, if we do what I am planning on doing, which is getting us energy-independent, North American energy independence within eight years, you're going to see manufacturing come back jobs because our energy is low-cost.

They're already beginning to come back because of our abundant energy.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012/10/video-watch-the-2nd-presidential-debate-from-hofstra-university/

(watch at 13:55 of the video)

Willard's own words. 4 years of energy policies are bringing back manufacturing jobs. Or maybe not. You never know with Willard.

  • 9 votes
#1.64 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

Here is another perspective.

A few years ago, Putin and United Russia party were campaining while selling "Putin's Plan" to the public. But nobody really heard or knew what "Putin's Plan" is.

Same with Romney's Plan.

  • 9 votes
#1.65 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:19 PM EDT

I have said it before and I'll say it again. Rombot has no specifics because the Republican agenda would scare the crap out of you.

For readers who don't know what I'm talking about: Ever since Ronald Reagan, the GOP has been run by people who want a much smaller government. In the famous words of the activist Grover Norquist, conservatives want to get the government "down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."

But there has always been a political problem with this agenda. Voters may say that they oppose big government, but the programs that actually dominate federal spending -- Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security -- are very popular.

Republicans are waging a war on entitlements so if you have no need Social Security or Medicare keep voting Republican.

  • 10 votes
#1.66 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

The economic collapse was created by you libtards, when are you going to go read Clintons and HUD's 100 point program to increase homeownership in America, it was called the National Homeownership Strategy, it was a coordinated effort to put pressure on the banks and increase home-ownership. For once I'd like to see a liberal accept responsibility in the housing crash by comprehending from whence it came. A great read is called "the Affordable Mortgage Depression" so you can quit blaming Bush and know your history. and dont blame the Grahm Bliley Leach act, Clinton gladly signed that bill as well, go read his signing speech... it enforced more of the CRA.

  • 4 votes
#1.67 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

Obama could commit mass murder on public television and some of these people would still make excuses for him.

The truth is he lied in the debate. He never referred the the Libya incident as a terrorist attack in the rose garden (Yes, I watched the entire speech).

He never answered any questions directly (Yes, I watched the debate, Obama dodged questions like it was a game of dodgeball.)

He has no plan, while accusing hos opponent of being vague. Even though Romney directly answers questions, has a five point plan, and has a website with his full tax plan posted. (OMG, you expect me to read!! No its easier to have Obama tell me what I should think. Hmmpff.)

It took him over a month to accept responsibility for the death of Ambassador Stevens.

Oh, and there is more, much more. But it will never make a difference to the Obama loyalist.

  • 13 votes
#1.68 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

Teresa

it's called trust me!

Most people with a resume like Romney call him to negotiate a salary / benefit package and when he can start.

That is how silly some of these attacks are.

  • 1 vote
#1.69 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

Obama's second term plan "we need more time".

  • 10 votes
#1.70 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

The cult leader got his a$$ whooped.

  • 10 votes
#1.71 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Yep, and since all the indicators are and have been moving in the right direction, in some cases for years now - UE falling, consumer confidence rising, home starts and prices rising, deficit decreasing, GDP growing, exports growing, energy production growing, manufacturing jobs growing, healthcare increases slowing, even the stock market skyrocketing - I think he has earned the right for more time to continue to fix our economy from the economic collapse brought on by trickle-down economics.

What I don't think we need is about the only thing Romney has actually not changed his mind about in the last 6 months - to go back to trickle-down economics.

  • 10 votes
#1.72 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

Romney is such a fraud, the President did talk about his agenda. Romney cannot be trusted because up till now we haven’t heard him make one coherent statement about his own agenda. Romney’s river of lies and deception gets worse by the day. I’m totally amazed at the number of people that actually believe the lies coming from this snake oil salesman……………

BTW: Where are those tax returns Mitt?????

  • 11 votes
#1.73 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:25 PM EDT

@ Tunde Akins, # 1.1

I'm with you, a slow recover is better than no recovery. Moving Forward!

  • 9 votes
#1.74 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

And a fast recovery is better than a slow recovery.

Fast is possible, but its been stifled by the Pres. Himself.

Romney/Ryan 2012 (the end of an error)

  • 7 votes
#1.75 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:41 PM EDT

Again.... why is that Biden gets a "free ride" & Romney was disrespectfull?

This ain't choir practice folks.... if Barry can't stand on his own feet in a debate, how could he ever lead?

  • 6 votes
#1.76 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

Sure it is. Fast is possible. This thing should be old news by now. Everybody knows that. You said it. How could we not believe it? Mitt said it. It must be true. Of course, that you just pulled that out of your butt without backing it up in any way shouldn't concern anyone. It's just so obvious.

I'd amend Confussed in this way: a real recovery is better than a pocketful of promises.

Romney/Ryan 2012 (the definition of 'blind trust')

  • 2 votes
#1.77 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

John Doe You don't know jack. The republicans in the house have stifled recorery. Give credit where credit is due. Sure obama made some mistakes in the beginning.Who wouldn't have. You can't just blame Obama, Everyone involved needs to be held accountable.

  • 6 votes
#1.78 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

pugulrich,

Haven't you learned to read? How about see and hear? It was shown on TV several times today that Obama called it a terrorists act? Does it matter when bush allowed 3,200 to be killed in NY by ignoring the warnings of terrorists learning to fly! I wish your right wingers would remember those facts!

  • 4 votes
#1.79 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

Just a couple of random thoughts.....Mitt Romney is not a, "job creator", he is a, 'wealth creator" and.....my family is solidly in the middle as far as income, we are still working (not retired) and I have absolutely not one tiny, little bit of concern personally about taxes on interest, capital gains, estate or dividends. Lowering taxes in any of those categories would help my family in such an in insignificant way that it is not even worth consideration. And, no matter how many times Mitt Romney says it, my taxes have not gone up in the last 4 years.

  • 6 votes
#1.80 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

Romney and his endless lies. If mittsy says it, the probability is greater than 99% that it's a lie.

In the debate he was caught in an egregious lie and the moderator corrected him.

AND THE FOX F^KHEAD FASCISTS ATTACKED THE MODERATOR FOR BEING CORRECT!

FOX DOES THE IMPOSSIBLE: SPEWS MORE LIES THAN ROMNEY!

  • 5 votes
#1.81 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

A highly reliable, un-named, anonymous, high ranking Obama official provided the following agenda IF Mr. Obama is re-elected to a 2nd term:

  1. The re-creation of a 21st-century version of FDR’s Works Progress Administration program within the Department of Labor that would oversee a massive new bureaucracy and millions of new federal jobs.
  2. An additional government-funded jobs program that provides “good jobs” capable of supporting a family with a “decent standard of living.”
  3. A new government mandate to force businesses to provide twelve weeks of paid benefits to employees who need time off to care for a new child, a sick family member, or their own illness. Plus, a higher, required minimum wage that would raise the floor for all employees.
  4. An expansive, de facto amnesty program for illegal aliens via both executive order and interagency directives linked with a reduction in the capabilities of the U.S. Border Patrol.
  5. Plans to bring in untold numbers of new immigrants with the removal of caps on H-1B visas and green cards.
  6. Government-funded, neighborhood-based programs to better integrate the newly amnestied immigrants into society, including education centers and health care centers. A “federal solution” to ensure that the amnestied immigrants are treated “equitably” across the United States.
  7. A National Infrastructure Bank that would evaluate and finance infrastructure projects of substantial regional and national importance” and would finance “transportation infrastructure, housing, energy, telecommunications, drinking water, wastewater, and other infrastructures.”
  8. The wresting of control of the military budget from Congress by placing an ”independent panel” in charge of military spending while slashing the defense budget.
  9. Spreading the vastly reduced resources of the U.S. Armed Forces even thinner by using them to combat “global warming,” fight global poverty, remedy “injustice,” bolster the United Nations and step up use of “peacekeeping” deployments.
  10. A new “green” stimulus program and the founding of a federal “green” bank or “Energy Independence Trust,” which would borrow from the federal treasury to provide low-cost financing to private-sector investments in “clean energy. “
  11. A “green Manufacturing” revolving loan fund to create 680,000 manufacturing jobs and 1,972,000 additional jobs over five years
  12. Detailed plans to enact single-payer health care legislation controlled by the federal government.

Welcome to the Obama Nanny State !!!

  • 3 votes
#1.82 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:35 AM EDT

I'm Not Too Proud To Beg; I Want You To Vote'

OBUMBO'S speech at Ohio University's College Green Wednesday October 17th, 2012

NOW HE IS BEGGING FOR VOTES???....DISGRACEFUL!!!....DISGUSTING!!!....AND PATHETIC!!!!

GONE FROM HOPE AND CHANGE TO JUST BEGGING FOR CHANGE!!!

DID YOU EVER THINK YOU'D SEE THE DAY WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WOULD STOOP TO BEGGING FOR VOTES????

  • 3 votes
#1.83 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:14 AM EDT

How can Obama lay out a plan? The only plan he has come up with is continued record pace deficit spending leading to a $26Trillion debt. Obama doesn't want to spell that pout to the American people. he is a coward.

  • 4 votes
#1.84 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

Here it is.

THE OBAMA MASSIVE DEBT PLAN!!!


Straight from Mr. Obama's fourth proposed budget. Here is the debt he is proposing to foist on US, our kids and grandchildren to go along with his big government as the center of the universe agenda.:

Table S–15. Federal Government Financing and Debt—Continued(Dollars amounts in billions)Actual 2011 Estimate 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020021 2022

Debt Outstanding, End of Year: Gross Federal debt:Debt issued by Treasury .................................................... 14,737 16,323 17,520 18,471 19,398 20,363 21,298 22,218 23,125 24,051 24,984 25,918

Debt issued by other agencies ........................................... 27 28 28 29 29 28 28 27 27 26 24 22 Total,

gross Federal debt .............................................. 14,764 16,351 17,548 18,500 19,427 20,392 21,326 22,245 23,152 24,077 25,008 25,940

Almost $26 Trillion in debt proposed /projected by Mr. Obama. UNSUSTAINABLE! And we all know that in actual practice it will turn out to be a lot higher if Obama is returned to office. And on July 16, on Morning Joe,Mr. Obama's spokesperson, Rep. Jim Clyburn(D), admitted that the Obama plan necessarily will require middle class tax hikes in the years going forward after the election, in order to pay for the deficit spending and debt laden Obama plan. Which is why Mr. Obama is only proposing a ONE YEAR extension of the current middle class tax rates.

And please, when you see Mr. Obama on the campaign trail, ask him how much yearly revenue he perceives his proposed tax hike on those making over $200,000.00/$250,000.00 per couple (projected to raise $60 to 70 billion)will raise, and how that will even come close to his proposed $1.3 Trillion per year in deficit spending and debt building. Oh, silly me, I forgot, Obama doesn't take questions on the campaign trail. He only sits for interviews with People magazine and radio spots with the Pimp With A Limp.

Too bad Mr. Obama can't discuss his budget plan with the American people. He knows it will be rejected, so he is busy playing with smoke and mirror attacks on Mr. Romney and giving meaningless rhetorical speeches in the hopes of duping voters once again.

  • 2 votes
#1.85 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:07 AM EDT

Do you call yourself backhouse because you live in the back of your moms house?

Look Obama plan is no plan.

What has he ever been good at get out the vote?

Collage and high school kids can do that and what you got when you voted for Obama

  • 1 vote
#1.86 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

Wikipedia: Greg Palast (born June 26, 1952)[1] is a New York Times-bestselling author[2] and a freelance journalist for the British Broadcasting Corporation[3] as well as the British newspaper The Observer.[4]


How Mitt and Ann made millions–and Mitt's hedge fund donors made billions–from the auto-industry rescue that he condemned.

By Greg Palast

Mitt Romney’s opposition to the auto bailout has haunted him on the campaign trail, especially in Rust Belt states like Ohio. There, in September, the Obama campaign launched television ads blasting Romney’s November 2008 New York Times op-ed,“Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”
But Romney has done a good job of concealing, until now, the fact that he and his wife, Ann, personally gained at least $15.3 million from the bailout—and a few of Romney’s most important Wall Street donors made more than $4 billion. Their gains, and the Romneys’, were astronomical—more than 3,000 percent on their investment.

It all starts with Delphi Automotive, a former General Motors subsidiary whose auto parts remain essential to GM’s production lines. No bailout of GM—or Chrysler, for that matter—could have been successful without saving Delphi.

So, in addition to making massive loans to automakers in 2009, the federal government sent, directly or indirectly, more than $12.9 billion to Delphi—and to the hedge funds that had gained control over it.

One of the hedge funds profiting from that bailout— $1.28 billion so far—is Elliott Management, directed by Paul Singer. According to The Wall Street Journal, Singer has given more to support GOP candidates—$2.3 million—than anyone else on Wall Street this election season.

His personal giving is matched by that of his colleagues at Elliott; collectively, they have donated $3.4 million to help elect Republicans this season, while giving only $1,650 to Democrats. And Singer is influential with the GOP presidential candidate; he’s not only an informal adviser but, according to the Journal, his support was critical in helping push Representative Paul Ryan onto the ticket.

Singer, whom Fortune magazine calls a “passionate defender of the 1%,” has carved out a specialty investing in distressed firms and distressed nations, which he does by buying up their debt for pennies on the dollar and then demanding payment in full. This so-called “vulture investor” received $58 million on Peruvian debt that he snapped up for $11.4 million, and $90 million on Congolese debt that he bought for a mere $20 million.

In the process, he’s built one of the largest private equity firms in the nation, and over decades he’s racked up an unusually high average return on investments of 14 percent.

Other GOP presidential hopefuls chased Singer’s endorsement, but Mitt chased Singer with his own checkbook, investing at least $1 million with Elliott through Ann Romney’s blind trust (it could be far more, but the Romneys have declined to disclose exactly how much). Along the way, Singer gained a reputation, according to Fortune, “for strong-arming his way to profit.” That is certainly what happened at Delphi.

Read the full article at The Nation...

  • 1 vote
#1.87 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

PolitiFact, the fact-checking arm of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, has confirmed that Obama does participate in the Illinois pension fund, which was organized in the Cayman Islands and has interests in China.

    #1.88 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

    KingK.......

    The HUGE difference is that President Obama neither makes nor influences those choices whereas MITT ROMNEY DID AND DOES.

    See: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Red+herring

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    The main (possibly, only) element needed in President Obama's second term agenda is overcoming republican obstructionism and economic sabotage. Then, we can proceed to fully repair our economy and move our nation forward as was done in the Clinton administrations.

    All other elements are ready for implementation.

    • 1 vote
    #1.89 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

    He made the choice to take the pension and many plans allow contributors to control the allocations to different accounts. As for your last comment,I'm sure most Americans are happy that Congress has opposed Mr. Obama's proposed $26 trillion debt budget. Not a single Dem in the House or Senate voted for it. Are they all obstructionist too?

      #1.90 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

      @Tunde Akins

      You're right Obama doesn't have to post his plans since everyone knows what it is. Declining gross national product, $4.00 per gallon gasoline, 23,000,000 unemployed, under employed or just given up looking, probably another 6 or 7 trillion in debt, the highest tax increase every placed on American in the form of health care, 47 million on food stamps, 17 million in poverty, open borders, more give aways to illegal aliens, death of diplomats, guns to the cartel, shut down coal and oil production, money to his buddies and green energy failures and most important it was all GEORGE W BUSH'S fault.

      • 1 vote
      #1.91 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:52 PM EDT
      Reply

      Actually Mitt, the president did in fact mention his 2nd term agenda in his closing 47% remarks. He stated perfectly who he stands with as we move forward.

      • 47 votes
      #2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

      Romney's wrong, Obama did lay it out, Obama said Status Quo has been great why Change now? Then he mentioned Big Bird.

      • 27 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

      Pat, you are right about the President's closing remarks.

      Our President is indeed fighting hard for us, and has been doing so for four years.

      By their own admission, GOP has obstructed the President and our recovery. Their goal was to blame the fallout on President Obama.

      B Movie material.

      • 43 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:15 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      He stated perfectly who he stands with as we move forward.

      Like you Pat, I am PROUD to stand with him!

      We can't go back now...

      • 38 votes
      #2.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:17 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarZMan2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      Obama LIED, and four US Diplomats died!

      • 42 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

      Next up for Romney is foreign policy. His advisors are all neocons.

      This oughta be interesting. haha

      • 29 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

      Zman - you are deplorible and have really earned my ignore vote. Good Day Sir - you lose - you get nothing!!! I said good day!!!!!

      (4) Americans Killed in 9/11 Libya Attack - President Obama

      (over 9,400) Americans Killed during 9/11 attack and two wars - President Bush

      Let's see which party am I going to vote for????

      • 36 votes
      #2.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

      Backhouse and Feisty, all the lies and obstruction are now front and center.

      And President Obama will be re-elected.

      Nice going Mitch McConnell and Frank Luntz and the rest of you free loaders.

      • 32 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

      We're almost there guys. Just a little more work to do on behalf of President Obama and our nation.

      To all those Americans who have done such a wonderful job helping to turn our economy around.

      Cheers to you. This is your election as well.

      • 32 votes
      #2.8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

      So Willard, when are you going to tell us which loopholes you are going to close to make your tax cut plan deficit neutral? Or as President Clinton said, did you really fail arithmetic?

      • 33 votes
      #2.9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

      Some folks choose to serve others, and live with the risk.

      • 11 votes
      #2.10 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

      I heard the President say he wants to reform the tax code to bring fairness, continue his education reforms so that we have an educated workforce, enhance manufacturing, work towards energy independence, address immigration reform and continue our withdrawal from Afghanistan. Sounds like an agenda to me.

      • 39 votes
      #2.11 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

      Backhouse said,

      "Our President is indeed fighting hard for us, and has been doing so for four years."

      He's fighting hard to get a second term so he can raise taxes on the middle class...

      From the article,

      Study: Obama's Spending Plan Raises Middle Class Taxes

      By DANIEL HALPER

      A new study by Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the American Action Forum finds that President Barack Obama's spending plan would raise taxes on the middle class. "[T]axpayers making as little as $30,000 will carry $1,500 more in taxes annually over the next 10 years," the study finds.

      The significance of this study is that it contradict Obama's pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class. “If you are a family making less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes go up,” Obama said in 2008.

      Backhouse he doesn't give a rat's rear end about the middle class and he is NOT fighting for the midddle class either, but your just too blind to see it!!

      It's time to turn the page on this failed presidency...

      The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more!!

      • 24 votes
      #2.12 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

      It's just amazing to me how rapidly Romney flip-flops in a single debate. It was almost a comedy routine. He'll say and do anything to get elected, totally focused on the moment. It is kind of like how absurd Gingrich got when he got desperate.

      • 23 votes
      #2.13 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

      Lyin' Ryan, A.K.A. Eddie Munster, recently posed for a fake photo op at a homeless soup kitchen. He then climbed up a tall ladder to kiss a snake's belly.

      • 24 votes
      #2.14 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

      I agree, Obama did lay out his 2nd term. Romney on the other hand has yet to say how he plans to close loopholes, what tax cuts he will be making and detail how the middle class will be helped. It's all been general statements, no meat. Just attacks on the president, general statements on his plans and failure to answer questions by anyone who asks him the details of what he plans to do. If anything, Romney's statement alone is actually voicing his own lack of plans, not Obama's. Disappointing really since I was hoping that with one last debate to go, he would at least finally give something to help swing the vote for independents. He failed to do so and it doesn't look like he will do so for the final debate Monday.

      • 21 votes
      #2.15 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

      Backhouse said,

      "Our President is indeed fighting hard for us, and has been doing so for four years."

      Your statement is nothing more than bovine fecal matter...

      From the article,

      Under Obama, Poor, Middle Class Incomes Fall Sharply

      Mon, Oct 01 2012 By JOHN MERLINE

      Despite repeated promises that he would build prosperity from the bottom up, President Obama has presided over three years of income losses for the middle class, according to the latest household income data from the Census Bureau.

      Since 2009, the middle 20% of American households saw their average incomes drop 4%. In 2011 alone, they fell 1.7%. The poorest 20% have fared even worse under Obama, Census data show. Their incomes have dropped more than 7% since 2009, and are now lower than they've been at any time since 1985, after adjusting for inflation.

      These results are in direct contrast of what President Obama said his policies would produce when he ran for president in 2008.

      PLEASE STOP... the middle class can't take it anymore!!

      It's time to turn the page on this failed presidency...

      The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more!!

      • 16 votes
      #2.16 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

      PLEASE STOP... the middle class can't take it anymore!!

      I agree wholeheartedly. PLEASE STOP Republican leadership of the House. The middle class can't take any more of their obstructionism and "let America* fail so Obama fails" policies.

      *this does not include the wealthy.

      • 20 votes
      #2.17 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

      Transparency in government...... watch the red queen, where she goes, no one knows....

      • 4 votes
      #2.18 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

      The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more!!

      You are right! We cannot afford 4 more years of the same Republican idiocy that put us into this recession in the first place.

      • 17 votes
      #2.19 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

      Well, by that reasoning, by an "engineer" no less, then we can move "forward", and assume that the deficit will top $20 billion if the almighty bho is re-elected. Unbelievable!

      • 7 votes
      #2.20 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:34 PM EDT

      Study: Obama's Spending Plan Raises Middle Class Taxes

      By DANIEL HALPER

      A new study by Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the American Action Forum finds that ...

      Daniel Halper is a neocon, and Holts-Eakin heads the conservative 'think tank' American Action Forum, and is former economic advisor to Senator McCain, so it's quite disingenuous of Halper to refer to it as 'a study'.

      • 11 votes
      #2.21 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

      Well, by that reasoning, by an "engineer" no less, then we can move "forward", and assume that the deficit will top $20 billion if the almighty bho is re-elected.

      Well, assuming you meant trillion, there is every reason to think otherwise. For one thing, contrary to Mr. Romney's misleading comments, Obama has not doubled the deficit. Obama has actually reduced the annual deficit from where it was when he was inaugurated by over $300 billion, despite drastic economic circumstances and two wars. Contrary to Romney's other lie, this administration has held spending to nearly flat for four years. There is every reason to believe it could be further reduced, if Congress cooperates, and result in cutting the deficit in half. But that's a big 'if'.

      Remember, when Obama said he would cut the deficit in half, Bush had not yet finished raising it from about $460 billion in 2008 to $1.4 trillion by the time he left office in 2009. In that sense, having reduced the deficit by over $300 billion already, he actually did more than cut it in half from where it was when he made those statements.

      • 9 votes
      #2.22 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

      According to Moody's, 12 million new jobs will be created in the next 4 years if nothing changes.

      Translation: Obamas policies for the last 3.5 years will lead to 12 million new jobs in the next 4 years even with an obstructionist congress. I wonder how many extra jobs could be created if the Republicans in congress were either, gone, or if they put their country before their party.

      • 13 votes
      #2.23 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

      Mitt, the Twitt mentions his 5 Point Plan. And they are:

      1.) ?

      2.) ?

      3.) ?

      4.) ?

      5.) ?

      Just like everything else he discusses along with his lack of tax reports shown to us. Prior to 2010, he paid far, far less taxes than his 2011 of 13% to 14%. But he doesn't wan us to know that he paid around 2.9% in taxes after using all his privileged tax loopholes. Demand to see them, you'll be amazed at what he has gotten away with.

      Finally, don't ever sell your souls to the wealthy elite to be forever placed in chains of corporate slavery, like those of the Nazi elite Koch Kock Brothers.

      Go Obama/Biden! And GO A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET for 2012!!!

      The middle class likes their few remaining benefits that they've paid into. We've had more than enough of your GOP GESTAPO SCARE TACTICS.

      • 10 votes
      #2.24 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

      Independent Thinker. They are not really Nazi's. Their father made the money a little further east. In Communist Russia under Stalin. They are just trying to keep it all and avoid the estate tax. It will save them 21 billion so what is a 100 million to buy a president.

      • 1 vote
      #2.25 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

      Obummer down in the polls 45% to Mitt's 51%.

      • 3 votes
      #2.26 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

      Romney is NOT A LEADER

      David Stockman: On the other hand, I don’t think Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits.

      [Then all the Fox commentators freak out and start talking over him]

      [Finally one askes a "question" that is actually a pro-Romney line]: But he had so many new jobs created for all the jobs that were lost, it was a net gain, no?

      David Stockman: I don’t think so. All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal that they got out of long before it got to its current size.

      (For those who are unfamilar with the term, LBO means Leveraged Buy Out.)

      This meme needs to spread. People need to think of Romney and the job destruction of the last decades, the impovrishing of the middle class. Romney made 100s of millions while workers lost jobs.

      Mitt Romney is the face of late 20th century American capitalism. He exemplifies the destruction of the middle class.

      • 5 votes
      #2.27 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

      Independent thinker

      each time you use the ignore button, your world gets a little smaller. Think about it, it's true.

      • 1 vote
      #2.28 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:50 PM EDT

      CHANGE THE TAX CODE? Really, that's what you picked up on? Why didn't he make that change in 2009? Or maybe 2010? What about 2011? Even had chances to introduce his PLAN in 2012....... so WHY do we have to wait for 2016 for the NEXT Democrat to make the same tired old promises?

      Guarantee, Barry will say he couldn't pass the legislation because it was SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT..........

      A true leader TAKES responsibility and NEVER has to tell people he's the "Commander in Chief".... he shows it in his EVERYDAY actions........

      • 1 vote
      #2.29 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

      DB Akron MY world got so small that I had to unignore everybody. Ha Ha

      • 1 vote
      #2.30 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

      "Guarantee, Barry will say he couldn't pass the legislation because it was SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT..........

      Steve News Flash IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE"S FAULT!

        #2.31 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

        President Obama would have been able to create more jobs that would help Americans if not for the republicans who don't want to help average Americans. Republicans just want tax cuts, tax cuts and more tax cuts for themselves and the wealthiest Americans. These tax cuts increase the deficit and they increase the deficit by billions. I want the wealthiest people to pay more. They have been the fortunate ones whose tax cuts were huge. They can pay more taxes now. We are sick and tired of tax cuts as every solution the GOP has. They are not solutions. The wealthy don't spend that money. The middle class spends their tax cuts and they are the ones who stimulate the economy with their spending. America is sick and tired of the obstruction and opposition the GOP has to helping the country recover. We are on to the republicans who are not concerned at all about the middle class or the working poor. It is just the wealthy that the GOP cares about.

          #2.32 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:49 AM EDT

          Barrack Obama's tax plan includes the idea that the state of the economy calls for tax relief, especially to lower and middle class families. Tax cuts would also apply to small business to ensure that they could contribute to job growth by hiring new employees or keeping the ones they currently have. Overall, the tax breaks in Barrack Obama's tax plan would be aimed at providing a boost to the economy.
          Obama and taxes have provided a wealth of controversy. The wealthy fear that they will become responsible for a larger portion of the tax burden, while the middle and lower class feel that they will be unfairly taxed as well.

          Obama and taxes have also included controversy over the programs that will receive a cut in funding, such as Medicare which will see no cost of living increase this year.

          The tax cuts proposed under the plan, include tax breaks to working individuals and working couples. Seniors would also receive large tax breaks, especially the lower and middle class.

          There are also proposals in which those families that are sending children to college, would receive a tax break for the years that those children are enrolled as full time students. In addition, those that are uninsured would also receive tax cuts until the new health care system is in effect.

          The goal of Barrack Obama's tax plan is to stimulate the economy by providing the lower and middle class with more money to spend, as well as more money to save.

            #2.33 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

            That above is The President 2008 tax plan same old crap the doesn't work.

            Would like to see he voting record whaen he was in the senate?

            • 1 vote
            #2.34 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:05 PM EDT

            And in four years he can run again under his other name Barry Soetoro.

            Romney 2012

            • 1 vote
            #2.35 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

            Obama has doubled the deficit. There is a difference between the deficit and the debt. From reading these posts I can see the liberals don't know the difference and don't care. they believe everything will be fine if we keep spending money.

            • 1 vote
            #2.36 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

            Barry's economic plan for the next fours years. Tax increase of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. Guess who is going to pay for it. If you thing the mega wealthy with their lawyers will pay for it you're fantasizing. They will just move money into tax free municipal bonds or out of the country completely

            Their next options will be those people that are luck to have a job because they did get the job by themselves.

            Comrade Barry thinks that all income belongs to the state.

              #2.37 - Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:35 AM EDT
              Reply
              Comment author avatarNoble Savagevia Facebook

              Obama Agenda:

              "In U.S., Unadjusted Unemployment at 7.3% in Mid-OctoberUnemployment, underemployment lowest since Gallup began tracking.

              by Jenny Marlar

              WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, is 7.3% in mid-October, down considerably from 7.9% at the end of September and at a new low since Gallup began collecting employment data in January 2010. Gallup's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate is 7.7%, also down from September. October's adjusted mid-month measure is also more than a percentage point lower than October 2011."

              Where's Jacko?

              Intrade: 66-34

              gObama!

              • 21 votes
              Reply#3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:10 PM EDT

              Sorry, but those numbers were never 7.3%, they were 7.8%. They were also quietly adjusted up to 8.3% less than a week later. You can't count part time the same as full time, which is how they hyped the numbers last time.

              However , a more telling number for unemployment is the labor participation rate, which is the lowest it's been since Carter was in office.

              But you are welcome to believe the lies from the Obama campaign if you want to if it makes you feel better.

              • 19 votes
              #3.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

              At the rate we were losing manufacturing jobs when Bush left ( 2.5 million total mfg jobs lost on bush's clock)....

              I'll take the Obama plan any day ...

              The elders in my family, many moderate republicans ...are all voting for Obama,,, From Maine to Washington to Colorado ...and in OHIO

              • 17 votes
              #3.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:19 PM EDT

              Where are you getting that from, Tammy?

              First of all, he's referring to Gallup's unemployment rate, not the U.S. government's unemployment rate. And yes, Gallup's rate has been adjusted up... to 7.4%. You can check it right now on their Web site.

              From your comments I also get the suggestion that you think the government played with the numbers to include part-time workers so the rate would go down. My friend, let me remind you that the methodology used to compute the rate hasn't changed in decades. Any notion that we have of whether a certain unemployment figure is good or bad comes from comparing it with past figures. If you don't accept the present one, you must not accept past ones. Therefore you can't say whether 7.8% is good or bad.

              And no, it hasn't been revised up to 8.3%, as you also suggest.

              • 12 votes
              #3.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

              andres, where is your labor participation rate number? What about those 23 million who can't find work? And the 50% of college students who can't find a job? Oh yeah, Mr. Carter...Obama is doing a swell job. Let's just "stay the course", and ratchet up the debt to mind numbing numbers. Who cares? We won't be paying for it, right???

              • 11 votes
              #3.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

              If you believe Romney's comment about searching his "binders of women's folders", then you're the among the most ignorant fools on this planet. He doesn't even come across as sincere, just a flaming J.A. And for those who still can't make up their mind as to whom to vote for at this late in the game, then they are doing nothing but grandstanding for their 15 mins. Hall of Fame on National TV. Perhaps, too, this is just a media political pandering scheme to keep their ratings high through using the undecided voters to gain their objectives. If you don't know whom to vote for by now, then perhaps you have no business voting at all.

              • 9 votes
              #3.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

              NPCDan, are you somehow suggesting that the unemployment rate was 0% when Obama took office and suddenly 23 million people lost their jobs? Because otherwise, that figure is pretty meaningless. We were losing 800,000 jobs a month when he took office. Did you genuinely expect him to reverse that trend within a month? If so, then I'm sorry, but you have to work on your naivete. If not, let me remind you that, discounting those first months of massive job losses (about which he had nothing to do), the economy has created more than four and a half million private-sector jobs under Obama's leadership. Are there still millions of unemployed? Yes, there always have. Are there too many unemployed people? Yes, but there are less and less every day and we just came out of the worst financial crisis since the 1930s.

              As for the debt, neither Obama nor Romney has a credible solution to the problem, so I if you believe for a second that bringing up the topic will somehow convince me that Romney is the better candidate, you're dead wrong. He thinks tax cuts and increased military spending are a solution to the debt problem, well, I'm sorry, we're not buying it. At least Obama wants to increase tax revenues and cut unasked-for military spending. His plan certainly doesn't get us back into surpluses, but at least it's not as blatantly counterintuitive as Romney's.

              And the whole comparing Carter with Obama thing is childish. Again, I don't know what you're trying to accomplish with that. Carter didn't kill our number-one enemy. Carter didn't have the balls to push for healthcare and financial reform. Carter didn't steer us clear of a Great Depression 2.0. Carter didn't have to fight with an obstructive, "we want America to fail so the President fails" Congress. Carter didn't do much to help U.S. image abroad (which, if you are familiar with Gallup and BBC global surveys, you'd know it has improved significantly since Obama took office, contrary to what Republicans say). Carter didn't get Russia to reduce its nuclear stockpile. Carter didn't make us more energy independent. Obama did (again, a readily verifiable fact).

              As for the labor participation rate, it currently stands at 45.2%, per Gallup. It was 42.3% in February 2010, the first month the firm started keeping track of it. So, contrary to the right's rhetoric, more people are on a payroll today than they were 32 months ago.

              • 5 votes
              #3.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

              AndresTM,, you seem to like facts and knowledge. Assignment for you, please read up on Clinton's program with HUD called "the National Homeownership Strategy" be sure and read the 100point program in its entirety, you wont find it on HUD anymore as it was the smoking gun so they took it off their site, but it is found by doing a google search. Also a good site to visit for information is called "the Affordable Mortgage Depression" it helps explain how Clinton's program contributed to the housing debacle. If you want to pursue the Graham Bliley Leach act response, then be sure and read Bill Clinton's signing speech for it, and read the actual transcript not the press release one. Also do you wonder why the treasury secretary Bob Ruben got a job at Citigroup afterwards making 14 million a year? does that raise your eyebrows at all? if your going to be knowledgeable, then know all your facts, not just the ones you like.

              • 1 vote
              #3.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

              Unemployment figures only give information about those ON UNEMPLOYMENT..... take a head count of the MILLIONS that have dropped off the rolls.......

              • 1 vote
              #3.8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

              beingone,

              Thanks for at least acknowledging that, unlike some of our fellow commenters, I seem to be rather fond of facts.

              And yes, I'm well aware of the fact that Clinton's "Homeownership Strategy" is considered to be one of the at least 120 ingredients in the brewing process of the subprime crisis (as were many actions attributable to W., HW., Reagan, and even FDR), but that only helps solidify my point that Obama is not responsible for the recession. While not being liable for it, he did take the brunt of the job losses, so it is not fair in any way to say that they "cancel out" the gains we've made under his watch.

              As if my indirect rant against Carter didn't give you a clue, I'm not the sort of zealously partisan fiend you seem to think I am (are you projecting?), and I am more than able to acknowledge that Democrats are also to be partly blamed for the crisis. Will you reciprocate my effort to be impartial and acknowledge that Republicans were also involved?

              And funny you managed to accuse me of cherry-picking facts without even addressing a single one of the facts I mentioned above.

              But once again, thanks. Your pointing fingers at years past is almost an unintentional endorsement of my case for why the whole "23 million unemployed" business is misleading, incorrect, and misguided as a line of attack against Obama.

              • 1 vote
              #3.9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:08 PM EDT
              Reply
              Comment author avatarZMan2012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Obama also LIED about having called the Benghazi incident an "act of terrorism."

              The day after it happened, he talked about generic "acts of terrorism", and about making light of other religions, in his Rose Garden speech.

              But, he never ONCE, NOT EVEN ITTY BITTY ONCE referred to Benghazi as an act of terrorism.

              That makes him a LIAR, and the media should be picking up on it.

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

              • 31 votes
              #4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

              By the way.....you can look that up in the transcript of his speech, which he challenged everyone to look at.

              • 23 votes
              #4.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarsfcretExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Even Candy Crowley now admits she was wrong when defending Obama at the debate and that Romney was in fact correct.

              But leave it to the left to try and spin it.

              • 32 votes
              #4.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

              Sorry Zman and sfcret - you again are both wrong. First I very much doubt you are a democrat. Secondly Candy Crowley did not apologize.

              See what happens when Romeny keeps Lying??? It spreads - you both can't help yourselfs to spreading more lies!!! Just crawl back it the closet and we will see you both in three more years. Thanks for playing.

              • 27 votes
              #4.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

              sfcret.....she did? Wow, I didn't see that.

              I'll have to look for it.

              That should tell everyone what a LIAR Obama is!

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY!!!!!

              • 20 votes
              #4.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

              Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You sound like bleeting sheep!

              • 6 votes
              #4.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

              She did NOT. And they played the tape where he said it. Get your head out of fux news.

              • 18 votes
              #4.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

              ahhh, 'scuse me there self educated voter.

              But, you apparently haven't read the transcript of the Rose Garden speech that your messiah challenged you to read.

              He clearly did not refer to the Bangazi incident as "an act of terrorism."

              He very clearly spoke about generic "acts of terrorism" and about making light of foreign religions.

              Face it, Obama is caught in a great big LIE, and there's no way of getting around it.

              And finally, you can doubt my political affiliation all you want. I really don't care.

              But, I was a registered Democrat for 32 years when Obama came along.

              HE is the reason that so many of us have decided to cross the aisle this year.

              Even polling data shows that approximately 9% of those who voted for Obama in 2008, will NOT do so again this year.

              HE LIED, self educated voter, and he thinks that you are too stupid to call him out on it.

              THAT, my friend, is how fascist propaganda works.

              But I will not be part of it, and anybody with half a brain won't either!

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

              • 25 votes
              #4.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

              Candy Crowley did walk back her remark on the CNN Anderson Cooper show this morning and admitted Romney was right. Further Crowley had no busy fact checking or interjecting herself into the discussion.

              For all you left wing nuts that are trying to spin this, I suggest you read what Obama said in the Rose Garden and then what was said at the debate. Also remember terror can be caused by a lot of things, not just TERRORIST.

              Further, if Obama knew the attack was carried out by TERRORIST and not spontaneous rioting why did he send Susan Rice out on the Sunday talk shows to say it was spontaneous and caused by a anti-Muslim video? Also why did he say, when asked on the View, in response to "was this a Terrorist attack or not", we are still investigating the facts. Why did he go to the U.N. and continuously refer to the Video?

              • 25 votes
              #4.8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:55 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarState of AwarenessExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Per factcheck.org:

              Terrorist Attack in Libya

              There was a sharp exchange between the candidates on the issue of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi and the question of when the president acknowledged it was a terrorist attack. Obama said he called it an “act of terror” the day after the attack. Romney said that “it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.”

              Obama is correct that he referred to “acts of terror” in a Sept. 12 speech in the Rose Garden. But after that Obama refused to characterize it as a terrorist attack while it was under investigation — even though other administration officials did.

              Obama: The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. That this was an act of terror and I also said that we’re going to hunt down those who committed this crime. …

              Romney: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?

              Obama: Please proceed governor.

              Romney: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.

              Obama: Get the transcript.

              The transcript does show that Obama said in a Rose Garden speech on Sept. 12: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” That night, he said at a Las Vegas fundraiser: “No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”

              But Romney isn’t entirely wrong. Romney claimed Obama refused for two weeks after the Benghazi attack to call it a terrorist attack and, instead, blamed it on a spontaneous demonstration in response to an anti-Muslim video that earlier that day triggered a violent protest in Egypt.

              http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/17/14513070-romney-obama-failed-to-lay-out-second-term-agenda-in-debate?threadId=3591468&commentId=71148159#c71148159

              Therefore Obama did state that we would not tolerate any acts of terrorism and, even though Romney was correct that it took the administration so long to admit so, the administration adopted a wait-and-see position by deflecting questions until the investigation into the attack could be completed. Romney failed to point out during the debate that Obama's comment was a general statement about acts of terrorism, not blatantly stating it was a premeditated act of terrorism. Romney failed on his end because he did have an opportunity to use that to his advantage, but shut down when he realized that the president DID say that this was an act of terror. Romney made the mistake in using Obama's quote and not being more clear on the angle he was taking with that.

              • 11 votes
              #4.9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

              From Fox News

              Moderator Crowley says Romney 'right in the main' on Libya, despite debate intervention

              Enough said.

              • 11 votes
              #4.10 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

              From CNN News:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=athcyCTnTTs&feature=youtu.be

              the video to back it up. But that's fine all of left-leaning Obama lapdogs. I'm sure you'll spin it so that it was somehow Bush's fault. Idiots.

              • 7 votes
              #4.11 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

              Zman, If you can't figure out that Obama clearly implied that it was an act of terrorism, then you need to go back to grade school. You posting such a childish rant is only confirming your vast ignorance! But then again, that's what your candidate was doing last night, bumbling, stumbling, fumbling!

              • 9 votes
              #4.12 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

              State of Awareness.......your "fact check" isn't a "fact check" at all.

              It's political propaganda.

              Obama did not specifically refer to the Benghazi attack, in his Rose Garden speech on Sept 12, as "an act of terrorism."

              He spoke of random, non-specific "acts of terror" in that speech. He also spoke about making light of foreign religions, which was what his administration said precipitated this attack.

              They said it was a spontaneous riot, in response to an anti Islamic video, NOT an act of terrorism by an organized terror group.

              Any attempt to make it look like the contrary is true, will only result in egg on whoever's face tries it.

              The transcript of the speech is as plain as day.

              Obama LIED, and four (4) good men DIED!!!!!

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

              • 8 votes
              #4.13 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

              Here's the portion of the President's statement, in full context - it's quite clear he's talking about Benghazi, even comparing it to 9/11, and not some 'generic' act of terrorism:

              I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who loved them back home. Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourn with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

              As Americans let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those, both civilian and military, who represent us around the globe.

              No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

              Today we mourn for more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

              He didn't lie. Romney just screwed up, that's all.

              • 9 votes
              #4.14 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

              Georgie Boy ALLOWED 9/11 to happen on AMERICAN SOIL...

              WHERE WAS YOUR OUTRAGE THEN, PHUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!

              • 9 votes
              #4.15 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

              tim-2799493, WRONG! Read that paragraph AGAIN;

              "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for."

              Absolutely no where, in that paragraph, nor anywhere else in the speech for that matter, does he specifically refer to the Benghazi incident as an act of terrorism (which were the words he used last night)

              Furthermore, you forgot to mention THIS little ditty from the same speech;

              Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

              It's quite clear that he's talking about the assertion, that the attack was a spontaneous riot, in response to the release of an anti-islamic video, which is what HE, and everyone else in his administration called it for two full weeks after it happened.

              Obama himself even went to the UN a week later, and lectured the General Assembly on freedom of speech, in connection with the Libyan incident..

              So please don't try to pan this LIE off on us anymore. Propaganda only works on those who are too stupid to see through it.

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

              • 11 votes
              #4.16 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:17 PM EDT
              • 1 vote
              #4.17 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

              DDubb48

              Zman, If you can't figure out that Obama clearly implied that it was an act of terrorism, then you need to go back to grade school. You posting such a childish rant is only confirming your vast ignorance! But then again, that's what your candidate was doing last night, bumbling, stumbling, fumbling!

              Sorry DDub, but you apparently haven't READ the Rose Garden speech, and you weren't paying attention last night, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

              Not only did he NOT specifically refer to the Benghazi incident as an "act of terrorism" (which were the specific words he said that he used).

              But, he also "implied" as you put it, that it was a protest over the release of an anti islamic video, when he said THIS in the same address..........

              Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

              Furthermore, calling Obama (and his sheeple like you) out on his LIE last night isn't childish, nor did Romney stumble, bumble nor fumble.

              He was flabbergasted, as all of us should be, at the ability of Obama to lie with a straight face, and ask the media to help him do it at the same time!!!

              Absolutely nowhere in that speech from 9/12/12 did he say that Bengahzi was an act of terrorism. He spoke of random/generic "acts of terror". But NEVER once used that term in connection with what happened at our consulate.

              In fact, he even went to the UN a week later and lectured THEM on free speech, as a response to the Benghazi attack!

              You're just angry because Obama is caught in a straight forward LIE and you're trying to deflect attention away from it.

              DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

              • 8 votes
              #4.18 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

              @state of awareness......never mind your Obamabiased/influenced fact check site........just READ THE FREAKIN' SPEECH!!!!!

              Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya

              Rose Garden

              10:43 A.M. EDT

              THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

              Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

              The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

              Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

              Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens's body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

              It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

              Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

              Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

              As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

              No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

              But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

              We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

              Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

              END
              10:48 A.M. EDT

              • 5 votes
              #4.19 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

              ZMan2012

              You should be running alongside Mitt, the Twitt with you manipulative and ignorant twisting comments. So you say Obama allowed 4 to be killed; but exactly how many did Bush sacrifice in N.Y. by ignoring the warnings of the terror group??????? And just exactly how many lives were sacrificed in the two unpaid for wars that Gestapo Bush started for WMD's that did not exist????????? Furthermore, just how many days did you serve to protect your Country? I seriously doubt that you spent even one day because your big trap would have gotten you booted out with a "dishonorable discharge". Go bury your head in shame!!! You just might try working at a job for a change rather than foolishly blowing your words of hot air.

              • 6 votes
              #4.20 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

              I was only correcting it for those interested in actually going to read it as well as get more information on the false statements by BOTH candidates. And no, that site isn't Obama biased/influenced as it also calls out false statements by Obama. That is your paranoia setting in.

              • 2 votes
              #4.21 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

              As I said, it's quite clear that he's including Benghazi among the acts of terror such as 9/11. The only way is isn't clear is if you simply don't want to believe it.

              That's your problem.

              • 3 votes
              #4.22 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

              ZMAN,

              Your BS arguments and Democrats for Romney slogan make me SAD. Why you ask? Because my guess is your just some Republican plant payed to sprout your lies and misrepresentations on this site.

              You have never been a Democrat. In fact its possible you aren't even a human. You are as Robotic and Insensitive as your hero's Romney and Ryan.

              For a while I was hoping that after President Obama won a new term, your ilk would fade away, but I've come to the conclusion, that won't happen.

              You and your kind are small minded and hateful.

              Your kind will sell out our Great Country, simply because you can't have your way.

              No one that believes in Democracy would want to see The U.S.A. become a Plurocacy, and that's what you are suggesting.

              So do us a favor and take a hike. Talk Fox News into opening up there website for comments, so you can be with your own spiteful and hateful kind.

              We remember "W" and we aren't going back.

              • 2 votes
              #4.23 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

              Notice if you READ the actual transcript of what Obama said on Sept 12th, you will notice that he FIRST apologized..... We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others..... as if we brought the attack on ourselves

              His anger, disgust, & resolve was nowhere to be seen in the speech....

              Strange, he showed more expression telling that he was the "Commander in Chief" in the debate.... glad we know now.... one would have never known.....

                #4.24 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

                It's so funny that Candy had the transcript just sitting waiting for Obama say

                Candy this is it Candy page 3 paragraph 2 line 3 read it Candy read it out loud that's right good girl

                  #4.25 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                  Notice if you READ the actual transcript of what Obama said on Sept 12th, you will notice that he FIRST apologized.....

                  That's a just a bold faced lie.

                  • 1 vote
                  #4.26 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:36 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Hussein needs to define "flexibility" with the Russians. Maybe he can expound on that in the next debate on foreign policy.

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                  he would love to talk more of Foreign Policy but he wants to move on to Big Bird. The important issues.

                  • 15 votes
                  #5.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                  The bad black man made our idiot look bad. waaaaa. Make da bad black man go away. He scares me.

                  God you people are pathetic. It's simple, next time field a leader instead of a beater! Romney is a losing whiner.

                  • 22 votes
                  #5.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

                  Nice job "Marx", in bringing race into the mix. You're a pathetic racist, through and through. And voting for a half black/half white man doesn't change anything about that. What I saw was the point man for the progressive/liberal idiots actually showed up at this debate...barely. Just enough to lie through his teeth about how much he cares about the middle class, and our veterans. Neither of which he gives two craps about.

                  • 8 votes
                  #5.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

                  Marks-1304631

                  The bad black man made our idiot look bad. waaaaa. Make da bad black man go away. He scares me.

                  WTF does the color of the president or person for that matter have to do with being a crappy leader?

                  NPCDan, im thinking marks is a troll and will be gone for good after the comment. just swoop and poop approach.. it was probably Feisty with her multiple accounts

                  • 4 votes
                  #5.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                  GM saved by the American tax payers

                  Osama Bun Laden killed by the US Military

                  and Al-Qaeda Terrorist Group in the Streets of New York City By President Obama

                    #5.5 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

                    CA- because we recognize you for what you are. You can't hide.

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.6 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:30 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Golly! What will be the meme until the next debate?

                    (Could it be?)

                    "Obama must lay out agenda for 2nd term"?

                    Now the incumbent will say "..and in my 2nd term..." 55 times in HIS stump speech...

                    Bueller?

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                    Whiner!

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                    Dangerfield, it would there is a bit of mixed decision with the second debate and a clear winner. I dont even know if the media is fully endorsing a solid Obama win. Perhaps it isnt 2004 all over. Obama has laid out his second term, meet the first term.

                    • 7 votes
                    #6.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                    Breaking from Newsmax.com

                    Network Polls: Obama Won Second Debate

                    After a lackluster performance in the first debate of his re-election campaign, President Barack Obama scored a victory over Republican nominee Mitt Romney in their second encounter, according to post-debate network polling.

                    An instant poll of undecided voters by CBS after the contentious town hall session ended found Obama beat Romney 37 percent to 30 percent, with 33 percent calling it a tie.

                    ----------------------------------------------------

                    Newsmax email to me says that the consensus would appear to favor the incumbent, and their solidly right wing editorial slant would tend to validate their assessment IMO

                    • 7 votes
                    #6.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                    Those numbers would seem to indicate at best a draw between the two candidates last night.

                    But, the fact that Obama is now caught in a LIE tips the scales in favor of Romney.

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

                    Sounds like practically a tie to me. After all their are more registered Democrats than there are Republicans.

                    It was not a resounding defeat like Romney had in the 1st debate. I would maybe give the edge to Obama merely because he showed up. Romney could have called Obama out on way more BS then he did.

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:15 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Obama saying he is with the middle class is enough of a second term agenda for these kookaid drinking libs!

                    Romney has hit on the key issue until the election. Obama cannot defend his first term record...and has no new ideas for his second term..

                    All Obama has is class warfare, attacking Romney as rich and playing to envy of successful wealthy people.

                    • 22 votes
                    Reply#7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                    Bleeting losers. You sound like whiney babies

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                    Mitt Romney began the class warfare and lost, Mitt Romney has no class.

                    • 12 votes
                    #7.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                    Envy wealth! Not if it makes me like you self absorbed people!

                    • 9 votes
                    #7.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

                    How could he defend the GOP obstructionist congress agenda to make him a one term President. The GOP obstructionist congress set a record for number of fillibusters during a presidential term. You want to blame someone blame your own party Republicans.

                    • 15 votes
                    #7.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

                    Bob in VA...aww...another red state angry white male who can't lick Obama heels without his tongue setting afire. Don't you men of the right ever give it up? Do you know how boring you have become to most Americans?

                    You don't move your asses to break a sweat and then you call "work" pointing and delegating?

                    Romney is a jerk. Any man who butters Annie Fannie's palms, allows her to have 5 cadillacs and 5 homes and offshore tax free havens is a man with raisins where nuts belong.

                    No woman other than the kissups wives of right wing men who do whatever Big Daddy tells them or he'll cut off their allowances is going to vote for Romney. He's a 1950's relic stuck in a time warp. As for Annie Fannie...is that it? Make babies your whole life and then when Big Daddy becomes a power freak, time to get hers? Puhlease...American women today are too smart to fall for Annie Fannie's Donna Reed Routine and Rip Van Romo's Father Knows Best script.

                    • 11 votes
                    #7.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                    Methinks the silly liberals are beginning to see it all unravel. How marvelous.

                    • 5 votes
                    #7.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:50 PM EDT
                    LooLoo.serDeleted

                    Romney is a jerk. Any man who butters Annie Fannie's palms, allows her to have 5 cadillacs and 5 homes and offshore tax free havens is a man with raisins where nuts belong.

                    Don't forget the $70,000 therapy horse!

                    • 5 votes
                    #7.8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                    NPCDan:

                    Yup ... we see it falling apart all right ... Romney's bid for the White House is falling apart right before our eyes!

                    Obama / Biden 2012

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                    Just like in Nov, 2010 when the Democrats "kicked a$$" on the Republicans, right ?

                    Shellac anyone ?? Shellac for sale !!!

                    • 1 vote
                    #7.10 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

                    Virginia- perhaps you could share with us the excitement you have towards Romney. Just what is it that excites you about him?

                    • 1 vote
                    #7.11 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:34 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Mr. Romney, you failed and KEEP FAILING TO GIVE ANY SPECIFICS ABOUT ANYTHING from your Taxes to what Deductions you are going to CUT FROM the Middle Classes' Taxes.

                    Mr. Romney you continue to insult the 47%, by lying and saying now you CARE. I guess you forgot to get that message to Paul Ryan as he DOES PHOTO OPS for the Urban City Area's people he claim want NOTHING BUT GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS and are TOO LAZY to pull themselves up by their Boot Straps. This coming from a Man who has been on the Government DOLE ALL OF HIS ADULT LIFE.

                    Anyone who looks at this Election SANELY WILL SEE THAT ALL OF THESE BILLIONAIRES, MILLIONAIRES are not RALLYING to you as an Candidate as MUCH AS THEY ARE EXPECTING you NOT TO TAX AND REGULATE them on ANYTHING.

                    These PLUTOCRATS are threatening their Employees with Job Loses if they Vote for President Obama and no pay if they don't show up behind Mr. Romney on the Podium to show that they do not Care about Mr. Romney being OUTSOURCER IN CHIEF OF SENDING Jobs to China and Lying about it.

                    Purchasing Democracy was not Enough. Now Karl Rove and his CABAL OF BILLIONAIRE PLUTOCRATS HAVE TO:

                    1. Threaten your Job.
                    2. Suppress the Vote
                    3. Register Voters Fraudulently
                    4. Voter Intimidation at the Polls
                    5. The Secretary of States of Republican Dominated States taking Voter Suppression all the Way to the Supreme Court
                    6. Fox LOSING some of its Edge as MIS-INFORMATION EXTRAORDINAIRE on Republican Propaganda.

                    • 25 votes
                    Reply#8 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                    Wa! Wa! Wa! America loves watching the whinney Turds. It's all they have left is to attack everyone.

                    • 6 votes
                    #8.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

                    And I suppose that Mr. Rove was the "second gunman on the grassy knoll" as well. Despite the almighty bho's incessant pandering, it would appear that it is not 2008 all over again. And what about Mr. Obama, and his cadre of billionaires? Not one mention of them huh? Interesting...pot, meet kettle...

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

                    Romney supporters are too stupid to realize when they're being played.

                    Romney is an out-of-touch billionaire. The only reason he keeps wanting to cut the taxes for the super wealthy is because he's one of them!!!!

                    He wants to get that 14% he paid down to zero.

                    • 8 votes
                    #8.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                    Brian : Well when they do away with the capital gains tax Romney's tax will be zero . Then they will do away with inheritance tax and the Romney boys tax will be zero also !! Romney did say both of them tax will go when he is elected .

                    • 3 votes
                    #8.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

                    Brian apparently has a WAX BUILDUP in his ears .... Mr. Romney clearly indicated NO TAXES on interest, dividends and capital gains ..... for THOSE MAKING OVER $200K in a year !

                    It's okay Brian, warm water and hydrogen peroxide will open your ears up .... don't know if it will do much to open your mind to the truth !

                    • 4 votes
                    #8.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:50 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Threats To Assassinate Romney Explode After Debate

                    Obama supporters voice desire to kill Romney over fears food stamps will be taken away.

                    http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2012/10/threats-to-assassinate-romney-explode.html

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#9 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

                    Typical of Obama's liberal supporters.

                    They are afraid that they will actually have to get a job and earn their keep.

                    • 7 votes
                    #9.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

                    Romney supporters are such idiots. They listen to his double talk and live in fear of actually having to pay for their own healthcare for a change instead of dumping it on the federal government. It's red conservative states who take the biggest chunk of federal funds for welfare...it's called trailor trash paychecks. Romney supporters mindlessly hang on his every word while he double talks, lies and then thinks he can put one over on smarter blue state Democrats. Sorry Tammy ...that red state Gravy Train ride is over. Guess all of DogPatch is in for culture shock...no more laying around on the porch with Lil Abner or the hound. My state taxes pay for what my state needs...why do yours pay the bills of businesses and not the people in your state? That's what you call "conservatism?" When you get zip in ROI for your tax dollars because your stogie smoking brandy swilling politicans all live large off your state taxes while you all live on minimum wages? Any day a red staters can get their asses out of bed at 5 AM, board the bus to NYC and return home after an 18 hour day, is the day Lil Abner and Daisy Mae get diarrhea.

                    • 13 votes
                    #9.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

                    LMAO!!! It's funny because it's true. "What the?!? (feigned indignation) You mean I have to actually WORK for something I want??? This is bull____!!! Where's my buddy Obama? He's got OUR backs!" Of course I'm paraphrasing...but you get the point. He DOES NOT have the best interests of the middle class in mind, nor those of any class in our country!

                    • 6 votes
                    #9.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

                    @Tammy311614 - I wonder if any of those folks you're talking about are one of the hundreds of thousands of US workers in the southeast that used to work in textile mills? They didn't export their own jobs to Mexico and China, dubya and the GOP did. Or maybe you mean the thousands of banking jobs that were suppose to be in Charlotte but dubya and the GOP sent them to India. Talkin about those people? Or how about all the ones that were gainfully employed but their company fell into the hands of a corporate vulture like Robme who, stripped all the assets, outsourced the labor and the employees got laid off? Are you talking about those people? Well Tammy, take a big drink of some STFU and ask yourself, how did those people lose their jobs? Greedy repubs.

                    abi in malam rem, nequam!

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:07 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Well it was clear Romney schooled Oliar on Libya, the economy and jobs.

                    Oliar didn't have a plan last night. Why would he. He hasn't had one in 4 years.

                    America says hello Romney.

                    Good Bye Oliar. You lied and lied and lied.

                    • 12 votes
                    Reply#10 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

                    lucky-1087161 - What channel were you watching????? The President, more than once, stated what he plans were. Romney, on the other hand, continues to lie about his plans . Can't understand why Romney just looked so constipated all night. What an awkward fellow !!!

                    • 18 votes
                    #10.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                    Keep smokin that Obama and you'll believe everything you say.

                    The writing is on the wall genius.

                    America has already chose a leader for America.

                    We have had a Oloser for 4 of years and you want more of the same.

                    So it must be the welfare that keeps you loving obama.

                    He's never had a plan except to keep doubling welfare.

                    America has a plan on Nov. 6, 2012

                    Romney/Ryan

                    • 10 votes
                    #10.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

                    Luckiy...So it's President Obama and not red state welfare recipients increasing welfare? You do realize it's your conservative BS red states who take the most from the federal government in tax ROI? You do know that states like MS won't spend a dime of their state taxes when they can help themselves to federal funding for welfare in those oh so conservative red states conservative state taxes to spend on corporations and not the people paying those taxes?

                    You've got some nerve...neocons live off welfare in every possible way...corporate handouts in the billions to businesses that don't need a dime of our tax dollars and then red states stick it to the rest of the states to pay what their state taxes should pay for and not constantly erode the federal government revenue.

                    • 13 votes
                    #10.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

                    yeah, and thats why the polls say Obama won the debate. Go back and take a nap little man.

                      #10.4 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:41 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      All Oliar did is continue to promote his hate for America & Americans.

                      Well Oliar America has had enough of you.

                      America's choice on Nov. 6, 2012 is Romney/Ryan.

                      A real leader for America.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#11 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

                      Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Romney was a schoolyard bully that got schooled by the Professor!

                      You cons never lose well. You always whine and cry.

                      • 17 votes
                      #11.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                      So Rip Van Romo is still parroting the script Norquist handed him? The one where he repeats like a parrot the word, "failure" the minute he mentions Obama's name? Boooooorrrrrrrinnnnng!

                      I couldn't help but notice Rip Van Romo didn't exactly spew forth HIS agenda other than more kiss ups to Big Insurance when he was asked about how he'd deal with healthcare costs if he "gets rid of Obamacare." Anyone else notice his milque toast answer guaranteed to put more moolah in the HMO CEOs profits?

                      Face facts Americans. We've all had enough of Republican obstruction. They know this. They also know we are onto their wealth protection regime that is bankrupting the Middle Class to keep wealth growing for the top income earners.

                      This election all comes down to one thing: If the top income earners are so mercenary and greedy they'd refuse to pay one dime more in taxes, how will any new revenue come into the government coffers if not from heavier tax burdens on the Middle Class? Who do the Republicans think they are hoodwinking this time?

                      Blowback is coming Baby...and it will be such a pleasure to stick it to those who have been sticking it to us for 10 years. It will be a joy to watch their obscene salaries be maxed out for a change. It will be thrilling to watch all of our young people become entrepreneurs and demolish the corporate welfare state in one fell swoop. It will be wonderful to be able to play in your face and tell them what they've been telling us for a decade: "YOU are on YOUR OWN!"

                      • 13 votes
                      #11.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

                      Sorry, but I starting hating Romney back in the prelim's. He won that, then all I heard from you republican's is how jealous & lazy we are. Started hating all republicans then! And, now all I want it you rich moron's to pay up!!

                      • 11 votes
                      #11.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

                      Lucky...Right wingers are sore losers. Bush isn't president anymore. Time to lose the "My way or the highway" attitude. It's obvious you didn't watch the debate or else there's TX longhorn dung between the ears that prevented you and your righties from hearing clearly what the President said.

                      That's the difference between OUR president and the lies of Rip Van Romo. Our president can prove what he says...All Romo can do is do what ALL Republicans love to do...try and prove a lie. Fantasies from the Bullie of the Right...my my my.

                      • 7 votes
                      #11.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

                      How can Obama lay out a plan? The only plan he has come up eith is continued record pace deficit spending leading to a $26 Trillion debt. Obama doesn't want to spell that pout to the American people. he is a coward.

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.5 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:04 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      Let the Romney whining begin!!

                      i'll bet he comes back at th emoderator, the news and anyone else that says he got schooled.

                      Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

                      • 13 votes
                      Reply#12 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                      All Oliar has left is to promote race and class warfare.

                      America has made it's decison and it's not Oliar.

                      Romney/Ryan on Nov. 6, 2012.

                      • 10 votes
                      Reply#13 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                      You are delusional as Rob-everyone is. And what kind of damn name is "Lucky". I bet you are a little old to still be using nicknames. You are right. America has made its decision and it sure in the hell aint Lyin Ryan and Mittens Rob-everyone. And the winner is...drumroll...Obama/Biden 2012; Rob-everyone/Lyin Ryan 1040s...please! lol!!! Your LUCK has just run out. You might want to get a "binder full of women" while President Obama is serving as Commander & Chief for the next 4 years! lol!!!

                      • 3 votes
                      #13.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:23 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Romney = America's choice.

                      Oliar = crushed

                      • 13 votes
                      Reply#14 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                      Who is this "Oliar you keep refering to. Is that your attempt at being clever?

                      A rude nasty childinsh name calling passes for clever in your house? Loser!

                      • 11 votes
                      #14.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:53 PM EDT

                      Romney = America's choice.

                      Oliar = crushed

                      Your welfare education is failing you.

                      • 9 votes
                      #14.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

                      Got an issue? Here's a tissue!

                      Romney got schooled and shown for the bully and incompitent he really is. We all loved watching him squirm.

                      • 11 votes
                      #14.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

                      You mean...Mitt-Flip is toast don't cha? lol!!!

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:26 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Obama did re-iterate his positions of decreasing taxes for those making over a quarter million/year, and he did guarantee that medicare savings will instead be discarded and allowed to go to the insurance industry, and he did say he would continue the policies of global corporate wealth trickleing down to the middle class as well as continueing support of the military industrial complex and oil and gas industries and continueing our engagements in afghanistan as well as intervention in syria and iran. The President has made his intentions clear, and as long as those 47% of non-income tax paying victims don't interfere, his plans can be implemented.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#15 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                      cgugga : what are you on drugs or just a drunk ?? Every thing you wrote is a lie and is exactly what the Romney/Ryan camp is guilty of. The medicare that Obama plan is passing the cost to the pfrovides and Ryan's plan says no way it has to be passed to patients . Obama's plan is return to the pre-Bush tax reduction for the ones over $250,000. Romney says Bush's tax reduction for all the rich and everyone. Check the facts . You sure are one ignorant one ..

                      • 3 votes
                      #15.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

                      Oh I forgot to mention I am one of the 47% that doesn't pay taxes since my is about $16000 a year and that includes my only "hand-out" social security . Also the 47% is the disabled, veterans, military in the combat zone. We all are are the the 47% that you republicans hate so much. Guess I should get a job as the teabaggers keep yelling__Will you hire me ?? I'm omly 87 years old and will be happy to get a job. ps; I do have a six figure bank account, do you /

                      • 3 votes
                      #15.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:51 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Sounds like the Turds have something to cry about today. Got to love the Turds.

                      It's desperation time.

                      Obama toast.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#16 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

                      Waaaaaaa!

                      • 4 votes
                      #16.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

                      Unlucky, looks like you are the only one on this thread with your head up Rob-mey's azz!

                      • 2 votes
                      #16.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                      Yeah, desparation time for Rob-me and Lyin Ryan. Example: Eddie Munster (Ryan) went so far as to act like he cares about the homeless. Washing clean dishes; using his kids & wife as ponds. The soup kitchen stated "he and his followers just bumb-rushed the place. Wow...talk about desparate!!!

                      • 5 votes
                      #16.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                      There's nothing wrong with toast. I love it with real butter and grape jelly!!!

                      4 more for 44!!!

                      • 5 votes
                      #16.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                      You must be referring to $4 more trillion in national debt if Obama is re-elected.

                      • 3 votes
                      #16.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Most of you are crazy, you could not see the truth if it was right in front of you. You are all blinded by partisanship. When is it going to stop??? Each one of us needs to educate ourselves on the issues. You want to see their plans head to their websites. Debates are not about substance but about showmanship, they are staged for your benefit to feed your partisanship, plain and simple. Wake up people or we will all find ourselves in deep trouble.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#17 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

                      America can't see it any clearer. No more of the liar in the WH.

                      Romney/Ryan on Nov. 6, 2012.

                      The writing is on the wall.

                      • 9 votes
                      #17.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

                      . and the writing is spelled out in the blood Romney shed last night. He looked like a fool.

                      • 11 votes
                      #17.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

                      Good 1!!!

                      • 4 votes
                      #17.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:40 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Oliar had to ask Candy Crowley to save his lying asx. Then she lied for him.

                      This lady should resign. What a failure.

                      She is a disgrace to the the lying liberal media.

                      • 10 votes
                      Reply#18 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

                      lucky --- you are delusional !!!! No more food from me to you troll !!!

                      • 7 votes
                      #18.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

                      It's all candy's fault. It's al biden's fault. It's all Obabma's fault. the blaming and whining continues unabated. I love hearing people like lucky suffer.

                      • 7 votes
                      #18.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:25 PM EDT

                      Seriously? You're playing the "blame" card? That is all obama, dems and libs have done for 4 years is try and place the blame for the problems we face now on Bush. It may be true that he inherited a mess, however, that being said, obama has done ZERO to fix it and with the exception of the obamacare, that no states no businesses and most ACTUAL working people want, has kept none of those all inspiring promises he made to the American people. In fact I would go so far to say that the only people he's kept his promise to would be the ones he made to himself and his family that they'd take all the vacations they want, on the taxpayer's money and play all the golf he wants.

                      We can not take another 4 years of gaurenteed failure.

                      Romney/Ryan 2012

                      • 6 votes
                      #18.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

                      Don't worry lucky. Mittens won't have a chance to fail because he will never be President of these United States.

                      • 7 votes
                      #18.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                      So you want to give Obama 4 more years to FAIL AGAIN ???

                      • 4 votes
                      #18.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                      You Betcha. Wink, Wink.

                        #18.6 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        How many times in the last 4 years have we heard the Obama story about his grandmother? He needs to get some new material. Again, he sounded stale and repetitive in listing his soundbites.

                        Big Stats that Matter:

                        ________________

                        CNN 2nd Debate Poll of over 400 people when asked these questions, responded:

                        Who will handle the economy better?

                        _____________________________

                        Romney - 58%

                        Obama - 40%

                        Who will make a better leader?

                        ________________________

                        Romney - 49%

                        Obama - 40%

                        At voting time people are going to vote for someone THAT CAN MAKE THEIR LIFE BETTER. Obama has no new ideas. Apparently we are supposed accept these grand visions of Obama's based on nothing. But I am quite sure of his results of the last 4 years. And that's not what we want for the next 4 years.

                        Romney / Ryan 2012

                        • 17 votes
                        Reply#19 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                        Maybe you would prefer if President Obama obtained some new ancestors ? Like maybe all white polygamists who ran away to Mexico to avoid prosecution ?

                        • 15 votes
                        #19.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

                        No we don't want any of his Muslim Brotherhood that he invites to the WH.

                        • 11 votes
                        #19.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                        Obama is getting crushed in all the polls.

                        Liberasl will be eating each other by the end of the day.

                        • 9 votes
                        #19.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

                        We can only hope "lucky". They'll probably have to lick each other butts to get the bad taste out of their collective mouths though...

                        • 2 votes
                        #19.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                        As many times as Mittens flip-flops...that's plenty! lol!!!

                        • 4 votes
                        #19.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                        dirp,

                        Really, you didn't you know Baracks Kenyan father was a polygamist? George Obama is his polygamist siblien poverty stricken brother that he won't even help because George doesn't have Barack's political views. Go see 2016.

                        • 2 votes
                        #19.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:52 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Candy Crowley admits Mitt Romney 'was right on Libya.

                        Why would the moderator open her mouth in the first place durning a debate unless she was trying to protect Oliar. America knows she lied and Oliar is finished.

                        The Liberal Media has failed America.

                        America will pay them back on Nov. 6, 2012 and vote for a real leader for America. Romney/Ryan.

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#20 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                        Good Try! You are absolutely wrong on the Candy Crowley statement. If you go to any reputable website, you can download the actual White House Video of the President discussing the attack at the Consulate in Libya. You are probably the tenth person to try this posting lie. Man-up, Mitt Romney made a real jackass of himself and the President was waiting for Romney t step into the trap. By the way, you can also download the entire video of Romney telling his millionaire friends in Boca Raton, that 47% of Americans are whiners with their hand out. The entire United States Military and ever person in a VA Hospital is a 47% Club Member. Trust me, Romney is a jackass when it comes to carrying about real Americans, and he will never become the Commander on Chief.

                        • 9 votes
                        #20.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:06 PM EDT

                        Crowley's credibility fell apart on the Libya question. It looked staged, orchestrated, when she intervened to help Obama clarify what he said in the Rose garden, the day after the planned attack. She had her lines at the ready, and she played her part well.

                        Obama DID NOT admit this was a terrorist attack for two weeks. That was deliberate. He purposely did not want to identify this attack as a terrorism attack, that's why for two weeks, it wasn't.

                        Romney can address Libya in the next debate.

                        • 8 votes
                        #20.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:13 PM EDT
                        • 6 votes
                        #20.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

                        Oh, go sit your azz down somewhere and whine me a river! lol!!! You are just mad because Mittens looked like a dear in headlights! Ok, I will stop being mean to the dear! LMAO!!!

                        • 3 votes
                        #20.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                        Oh dear! I think another uneducated Obama a** smooch has just made another lame statement. What a surprise...

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.5 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:03 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        When they can't refute the POTUS statements, and can't support the Myth's lies and defend his failure to provide any ideas or plans, the only fallback for Repubtards is to blame the moderator. WAAAAAAAA

                        4 more of 44

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#21 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                        First, YES the President called Benghazi an act of terrorism in the Rose Garden speech and the right wing's desperate attempt to split hairs on it is shameful.

                        And Romney already forgot the first question was from Jeremy about jobs for graduating college students.

                        Wow! Not even 24 hours and Mendacity Mitt is still pumping out the lies!

                        • 12 votes
                        Reply#22 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                        Who told Susan Rice to say the attack was from a YouTube video?

                        • 8 votes
                        #22.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:00 PM EDT

                        Who cares who called it what...........after the fact

                        Why weren't the Marines on site to protect him. Dead Americans are more important than Gaffes.

                        • 6 votes
                        #22.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

                        That's like blaming the Republicants for cutting funding for security.

                        Obama took responsibility. The Reps just aren't used to seeing their leaders act like men. Kinda explains why they act so much like children when they lose.

                        • 7 votes
                        #22.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                        Obama hasn't acknowledged he's had the worst four years in history as a President, and has not said one word as to what he plans on for the next four. Romney answers questions, Obama did not answer one question last night. He just goes off on tangents and the idiots think he did well. I was waiting for Romney to just yell, answer just one question. Obama has NOTHING to run on; and Romney is spot on with everything about the economy, how to fix it and what it will mean. Obama just stands there like he has no idea what to say.

                        One person asked him WHY you did nothing at all when it has become apparent those in Libya were asking for security. He would not answer that question and just said the buck stops here, we're looking into things. ANSWER THE QUESTION. Why did you not do anything is what was asked.

                        • 2 votes
                        #22.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                        GEM, Gas Long Beach Cal. hit $6.65 a gallon. getting close to your $7.00 prediction!

                        • 1 vote
                        #22.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                        Brews- Spot on. Maybe you would care to enlighten all of us with some of that spot on that Mitt offered.

                          #22.6 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:54 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          America knows we have a liar in the WH.

                          Clinton Takes Responsibility for Libya, but Obama's Terror Policy Is Real Problem

                          Vote, Romney/Ryan on Nov. 6, 2102.

                          • 9 votes
                          Reply#23 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                          I know getting all those AlQueda just helps those terroris. If only Bush had half the strategy and brains that Obama does.If you think he is easy on terror, ask Osama Bin Laden. Duh! What would make you guys happy.

                          • 2 votes
                          #23.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                          Yeah, four people died in an attack against Americans under Obama, 4,000 under Bush, so whats your point.

                            #23.2 - Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:56 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            So what is Romney's agenda? I heard him say lots of "I want to" and "I'm going to"blah blah blah but not HOW he plans to accomplish any of it. People are fooled by rhetoric.

                            • 11 votes
                            Reply#24 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

                            What's Obamas Plan? Oh, that's right, four more years of the same lame blame.

                            • 10 votes
                            #24.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                            Hope & Change

                            • 5 votes
                            #24.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

                            Can You Spell Socialism?, you and Lucky are hiarious. You accuse Obama of blame. Blame is what you do to people that don't take resposibility for what they do. "W", Cheney' Rummy....none took responsibility or admitted they lied. 8000 Americans died because they lied.

                            You two are not only wrong, you're unAmerican.

                            Blaming him?

                            • 8 votes
                            #24.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                            Direct from Nigeria = Obama might, just might have a plan. My plan is get him outta DC.

                            • 3 votes
                            #24.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                            I think Obama's got plans that he is not sharing. Remember this is his last election. He'll have more flexibility after he's re-elected.

                            • 5 votes
                            #24.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

                            Pres. Obama has already shown us his plan over the last 3 and a half years.

                            As the challenger, it is Romney's responsibility to show how his plans and ideas are better than the President's. It is sad the anyone would vote for a guy who gives a generic wish list as a plan and says, I will show you my plans after you elect me.

                            • 2 votes
                            #24.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                            Barry would do ANYTHING to regain the White House.... there's still so much that still works about America..... and he needs to DESTROY it.............

                              #24.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:01 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              INSTALLING PRESIDENT ROMNEY .....
                              █████████████▒▒▒ 85% complete.

                              • 16 votes
                              Reply#25 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                              WOW talk about delusional.

                              • 9 votes
                              #25.1 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

                              That's funny. I like that. When does Romney blue screen? 90%?

                              • 6 votes
                              #25.2 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

                              Error. Abort, Retry, Fail?

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.3 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                              INSTALLING PRESIDENT ROMNEY .....

                              █████████████▒▒▒ 85% complete....SYSTEM ERROR!!

                              • 4 votes
                              #25.4 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

                              INSTALLING PRESIDENT Obama .....

                              █████████████▒▒▒ 85% complete....SYSTEM ERROR!!

                              Need a bottle of Beano, as the ad depicts: with Beano you'll have no gas

                              • 3 votes
                              #25.5 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                              RE-INSTALLING PRESIDENT OBAMA .....
                              █████████████▒▒▒ 85% complete.

                              • 6 votes
                              #25.6 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                              @Ourdoc

                              Ooops, complete system failure...just as his presidency is.

                              • 7 votes
                              #25.7 - Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:56 PM EDT
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