We were subjected to a weeks worth of chatter on how "rusty" the President would be in the town hall format!
If coming out and surgically removing that @!$%# eating grin from Willard's face is considered "rusty", I would hate to see what President Obama would of done to him with a "scalpel"! lol
How could he be rusty??? All the chatter is how he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. His own camp said he spent 3 straight days - not running the country - but preparing for this debate.
So the next debate is on foreign policy. What is Mitt going to talk about?
His foreign accounts and how all the rich people need protection from us little tax payers? Cuz that's the only foreign policy experience he has. Unless you count living in a former Nazi mansion during the Vietnam War.
Or when you go to London and insult just everybody. Warsaw wasn't too crazy about him either now that I think about it.
The leaders of Israel couldn't wait for him to leave. They spoke quite highly of President Obama.
Foreign Policy. Stick with your foreign accounts Mitt.
Frustrated Mitt crossed the "red line" several times last night and got punished for it with a last minute southpaw punch from the President. Let see how he picks his fight in the next debate.
How could he be rusty??? All the chatter is how he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. His own camp said he spent 3 straight days - not running the country - but preparing for this debate.
The question, Domenico, is what lesson Mitt takes from the whoppin' he got last night. He was frantic and frenetic, disrespectful and tried to take over the rules to suit himself. President Obama slapped him down, and deservedly so.
So what does Mitty do now? Try a charm offensive, which is alien to his character, become more petulant and demanding, but no matter what he does, he will continue to be fact challenged and a liar.
One caveat: Be careful, Domenico, about stereotyping women and their response to an active debate. I can speak only for myself, but I was glad to see Mitty taken to the woodshed. Long past due.
Also, the polls I have been reading give the President a bigger win from those who say they are uncommitted. I do believe you are being far kinder to MItt then he deserves. This wasn't close at all.
And Feisty will get votes "up" for her intelligent "." comment from the leftist extremists she has dominion over.
there is nothing intelligent out of one of the above posts. Look at Pat with her/his Nazi mansion in Vietnam? WTF? I tell you what, these primitive screwheads spent more time in reality instead of pumping the neighbors dog we might be able to have a civilized discussion.
As for Feisty, truly a simple minded creature. Jim Jones and David Koresh and the likes of them recruit the Feisty's of the world. Their ferver for their ideology is very dangerous. Feisty is Obama's Hans Gruber
Spin it how you want, but two weeks ago I was disappointed. Pretty pumped today. The pres was able to sum up Mitts five point plan to one point. Everything from this point will fit in that box Mitt wants the top earners to play by different rules.
" Their ferver for their ideology is very dangerous. Feisty is Obama's Hans Gruber"
contradict much? Hans Gruber, the fictional heavy in "Die Hard" had no ideology, he was pure capitalism.
and according to YOUR ideology, he was a small businessman, an employer, a risk-taker. Yanno, those "job-creators" that should be getting taxbreaks and lower regulations. He was one of YOU.
The current president did come out fighting, and did a credible job in shoring up his lost base.
But as the president has said, words are important. His words were recycled talking points he's used throughout his campaign. What did he show about his plans other than what has already been said?
Loved the chubby lady who was to be in control - she certainly gave Obama all that he needed for time.....did he have the questions in advance.
Speaking of questions, if those people who asked them knew what they wanted to ask, why then did they have to read them from paper and why did a few happen to have difficulty reading their own question?
Say what you choose to, at best, it was a draw. Same old Obama, same old talking points - nothing different but image.
of course you libs are excited for bozo..compared to his last debate he was good..but still didnt tell you how he was going to fix economy and you losers cheer..this clown tells the world he doesnt even look at his own investments yet you believe he looks at our countrys? get real
1funnygirl... is that a pic of feisty lmao it sure is funny how obamas people get on news threads to pretend they are normal people for his bs agenda. It will be even funnier when they are out of a job on 11-7
Again Romney just kept saying "I've done this before. I can do it." No specifics - no plans - no facts. Just rhetoric.
Same old Mitt - nothing new to see!
as opposed to the same policies that are dragging our economy down? what plans does obama have. the only facts are that obama has done a poor job and not once did he defend himself for handling the economy poorly, he just blamed everyone else
Loved the chubby lady who was to be in control - she certainly gave Obama all that he needed for time.....did he have the questions in advance.
Does the GOP give out paranoia pills to their voters or what? I noticed in your entire post not one mention of your support of your candidate. Then again, very few ever post that they like anything about Mittens but they sure do like posting their anger and hatred for the President.
What was your previous screen name? Your posting style is oh so familiar . . . .
Congratulations Feisty, you're the first one again! How do you do it? I usually expect to see you there first, so eh, what can I say but you're quick.
I've never supported Obama but I gotta hand it to him, he was way better this debate than his last one.
But here's the problem, moderators cannot call someone out unless they know their facts. Obama mentioned "acts of terror" when referring to 09/11/2001 (starting at about 3:19 in the youtube address) but never specifically called the Benghazi attack a terrorist attack until 9 days later as the moderator admitted to Romney shortly after showing her bias toward Obama. The moderator only showed her true colors so thank you, you have no credibility.
Number two: Obama declared: I say what I mean!
Except when it comes to "...if I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one term proposition". - President Barack Obama, February 2009.
Look up the quote here Youtube tag... /watch?v=CCN5-ovvFL0
When you don't have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from, that's all Obama did. He even (LOL) He even tried to put words in Mitt's mouth and Mitt called him out on it. Obama, that is childish, and desperate. Trying to put words in your opponent's mouth is like asking the moderator for help because you want to change the subject REALLY bad!!!LOL
Even Obama (The self-proclaimed one-term president) wants you to vote for... (I'm going to spoon feed you some words too, hope you enjoy prez)
Does the GOP give out paranoia pills to their voters or what? I noticed in your entire post not one mention of your support of your candidate. Then again, very few ever post that they like anything about Mittens but they sure do like posting their anger and hatred for the President.
the pot calling the kettle black ....wheres your support
Does the GOP give out paranoia pills to their voters or what? I noticed in your entire post not one mention of your support of your candidate. Then again, very few ever post that they like anything about Mittens but they sure do like posting their anger and hatred for the President.
On top of that, has anyone else noticed that you never hear anyone coming forward saying what a good guy Mr. Romney is or how he's a good, decent, honest businessman?
Hans Gruber, the fictional heavy in "Die Hard" had no ideology, he was pure capitalism.
your absolutely right about him lacking ideology but it still paints feisty as every other ideolog terrorist. As for capitalistic, not by definition but you think capitalists steal. Of course you benevolent libs think its ok to steal from someone else to provide for you. So whats the difference again? You're more generous with someone elses money? How NOBLE.
seriously? you should have had some decaf this morning. To my knowledge, Feisty has not blown up anyone, held people for ransom, or threatened mass destruction. What she is doing is the same thing as you, merely free speech.
But be careful painting with such a broad brush, you may get some of that muck on yourself.
Bob - Another thing Obama has done was to stick to the George Bush exit strategy in Iraq, or as BHO puts it, "I said I would end the war in Iraq and that is what I did".
Don't forget, BHO did try to negotiate a troop presence in Iraq beyond the Bush timeline, but the Iraqi government would not "guarantee" the safety of such a presence. BHO didn't have a choice at that point but withdraw... Oops, I mean, "end" the war in Iraq...
I love the rigties' way of thinking. Mitt is much better than President during 1st debate = Mitt gets the credit. Paul Ryan and Mitt get put in their place during debates = it's the moderators' fault.
The moderator didn't force Romney to make an idiot out of himself during the Libya comment. Romney thought he had the president by the ballz and went for it. Too bad for him, Romney didn't know the facts, and took a shot that ended up being his biggest mistake of the debate.
I will aslo point this out: you may not like President, you may disagree with him. Heck, you may even hate him. But Romney should know better than be disrespectful to the President of the United States by saying "YOU will get your turn." Mitt, the President is not one of you "yes sir" employees. Show some respect!
What she is doing is the same thing as you, merely free speech.
i have no problems with that at all. I never called for her to be removed. sorry Feisty is unhinged. Besides its libbys on here that want to silence people and remove the 1st amendment and the second and the third.....
or threatened mass destruction.
Im sure people like No Joe would disagree. She like a lot of libs on here have called for violence against other posters.
like pretending im on ignore
Little seizure is at it again... eh?
sure Feisty, Im on ignore.
But be careful painting with such a broad brush, you may get some of that muck on yourself.
funny Detroit, you seem to have a roller brush yourself.
Word at my ofice today was Romney lost the young women's vote with his "back to the fifties" comments about women needing to get home to cook dinner. "Husbands need to get home to cook dinner too!" one young wife told me today. She was angry Romney didn't get that women sometimes get paid less for doing the same job men do.
At least he's done Something before. Which is better than Obama... What has he done? Increased the debt, oh that's nice.
what has Romney done?
make "his" state of Mass rank on the bottom of the job creation list? Raise fees on every single resident of Mass from drivers' licenses to marriage licenses to fees on the blind?
"Fix" the Olympics by taking a handout from the taxpayers?
Made millions despite forcing companies to file for bankruptcy and/or taking funds from taxpayers for their pension plans?
Shut down factories and strip the workers of their pensions?
WE all know Romney was successful at making money. No question about it because his bank account in Cayman Island proves it. We also know that Romney was great at one thing he said he loved to do: firing people.
bayllie - I come out with facts & you respond with made-up crap. I've read many of your posts that were worded well. This one AIN'T...
we still would have been out of Iraq 98 years sooner than if John McSame was POTUS
Point was / is Obama did nothing extra ordinary. The path was laid out for him by GWB & he took it. BHO now takes credit for following the Bush plan... Hmmm...
Also - Your point above about respect... In a debate, all things are made equal. There were 2 candidates on that stage, both attempting to secure the office of the Presidency. Romney did no wrong when the other candidate tried to cut him off in the middle of his remarks.
NO WAY!! I for one loved watching President Obama send that lying, pandering bully slinking away with his tail between his legs!
yes, Romney tried to be a bully, a very disrespectful bully. I still cannot believe that Romney spoke to the President by TELLING him "you will get your turn."
I give the President credit for holding his cool. I wanted to mentally "slap" Romney at that point. But the good news is that the President, while presidential and respectful, put Romney in his place.
Does anyone know if Romney's "binders of women" is something like the Russian mail bride catalogs????
we still would have been out of Iraq 98 years sooner than if John McSame was POTUS
Point was / is Obama did nothing extra ordinary. The path was laid out for him by GWB & he took it. BHO now takes credit for following the Bush plan... Hmmm...
Gotta love Republican revisionist history on this one. Candidate Obama campaigned on getting us out of Iraq. Bush and his merry band of neocons cried and moaned that you "can't set deadlines or time lines." Obama wins the election and in Bush's last month of office, he signs a deal with the Iraqis along the same terms Candidate Obama so consistently outlined. Now they try to give Bush all the credit, just like Willard tried to take credit for the auto bailout last night!
bayllie - I come out with facts & you respond with made-up crap.
I know you have to deny deny deny otherwise Romney would never be your candidate. How else could you possibly excuse a guy that keeps flip flopping on every issue? And it's all on video.
But here is my "made up crap"
at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, a crowd member asked McCain about a Bush statement that troops could stay in Iraq for 50 years. "Maybe 100," McCain replied
would a video of him saying it be satisfying to you???????????
All I know is that Obama LIED last night, and Candy Crowley helped him do it.
He did not call the Libyan attack "an act of terrorism" in his Rose Garden speech the day after it happened.
But rather, he spoke about "acts of terror"generically.
He also spoke about putting-down other people's religions, which is what he and the administration said the attack was all about for a period of two weeks after it happened. They said it was a spontaneous response to an anti islamic video.
Oh, and just so that he, and his ObamaPHILES don't get away with LYING about this any further....HERE is a full transcript of his rose garden speech the day after the attack occurred. Please note that he NEVER refers to the Benghazi attack specifically as an act of terrorism, and please note that he DOES talk about putting down other people's religions.
Rose Garden
10:43 A.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.
It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.
Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.
Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.
Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.
END 10:48 A.M. EDT
The more you know about Obama, the more you know he is a LIAR!
Next time bring in your own skinny lady. We love our chubby Candy Crowley.
And why wouldn't you? Candy Crowley is as liberal as they come.
But I'll admit that she did a great job of giving Obummer all the time he wanted, cutting off Romney in mid-sentence, and playing adhoc fact checker... (although her 'facts' were incorrect and she publicly admitted so AFTER the debate.)
come one Sick the answer to all of that is yes. In fact I expect the 'he was the most vetted President/Canidate in history' line. No Seeking demands independent thought and equates voting Democrat as High Intelligence. its just your an idiot and misinformed rethuglican. at least thats roughly what a Progressive would say.
I think Obama should sue Romney for going after Big Bird, in fact Obama can use some migratory bird act or some endagered species crap.
Point was / is Obama did nothing extra ordinary. The path was laid out for him by GWB & he took it. BHO now takes credit for following the Bush plan... Hmmm...
love the hypocrisy of the righties. Where did I claim that it wasn't Bush's deadline? It was but what you fail to understand is that Obama had a choice like McCain. MCain wanted to keep the troops in Iraq longer - we are not talking a year or 2 longer. We are talking 100 YEARS LONGER.
And as he said he would end the war in Iraq, he didn't, didn't he?
BTW, since you are so generous at giving credit here, Bush also layed out another path for Obama: path of fincancial meltdown and credit crisis. Make sure you give credit where credit is due.
I Like America, now I realize that posters like you are conservatively impaired, and can never fully comprehend words spoken unless they get the Cliff Notes from the right-wing talkers.
On 9/12/2012President Obama spoke in the Rose Garden and said these words: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done..."
First, in that 9/12/12 statement President Obama said "we mourn four more Americans", what part of the reality that those deaths occurred in Benghazi and that President Obama was talking about Benghazi do you conservatives not grasp?
Second, why is it that conservatives seem more concerned with who said what and when, more interested in politicizing this tragedy, more concerned with making it a campaign issue, more caught up in blaming President Obama than they are concerned about tragic death of Ambassador Stevens and three other brave Americans, and how best to prevent it in the future?
Third, the Benghazi attack occurred in the midst of numerous violent, regional protests, which were spreading beyond Egypt, over the anti-Muslim film. Why is it conservatives dismiss the seriousness of the protests; why is it that conservatives ignore those facts and instead engage in some warped discussion of semantics?
Fourth, while conservatives engage in a discussion of semantics, argue who said what when, and politicize the deaths to garner votes, the White House has special ops on alert so they are ready to act when our intelligence tracks down the al-Qaeda-linked group that murdered the four Americans.
Seriously, such idiotic comments from conservative posters, Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and all the other conspiracy theory naybobs proves once again that republicans are a bunch of nit-picking, whiners with no real sense of what is and what is not important. There is also a ring of desperation in every word they speak, write, and a hollowness in their argument over who said what and when. What is important is to investigate and determine what went wrong, and then implement a plan to prevent such "acts of terror" in the future.
He did not call the Libyan attack "an act of terrorism" in his Rose Garden speech the day after it happened.
But rather, he spoke about "acts of terror"generically.
hey brainiac, did you even watch the debate or are you getting your info from Fox News? I'll even high light the part of the transcript for you:
ROMNEY: I — I think interesting the president just said something which — which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.
OBAMA: That’s what I said.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.
It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It — it — it — he did in fact, sir. So let me — let me call it an act of terror…
OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
CROWLEY: He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
forgot to add. "Act of terror" by definition is short of:
act of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.
Keep denying Romney's total failure at trying to talk about things he has no clue about.
Romney did no wrong when the other candidate tried to cut him off in the middle of his remarks.
except the protocol
when you address the president, you address him as Mr. President or President LastName- regardless of who he is or whether you like him. He's still the President of the United States of America. You never address him as YOU. He is not your buddy.
I give the President credit for holding his cool. I wanted to mentally "slap" Romney at that point. But the good news is that the President, while presidential and respectful, put Romney in his place.
I totally agree, bayllie. Romney's demeanor bordered on desperation as he struggled to wrest control away from the moderator. He has no respect for the POTUS or for the office, and no respect for the debate process. Nevermind, the closest Mittens is getting to the White House is a public bus tour.
The President handled Romney deftly without once resorting to sinking down to his level. Schoolyard bullies can't hold a candle to our POTUS.
For the final debate, I suggest they fit Mittens with an electric shock collar and deliver him a good jolt when he steps out of line.
Did anyone else catch Obama's subtle messiah reference last night?
When he was telling the story of visiting the boy who was, how did he put it... "shot in the head" in Colorado - He said... he sat there and prayed with the boy's mother... and then viola' the boy was cured... good as new!
Sounds like a 'laying on of hands' to cure the lepers doesn't it?
Man... we are SOOOO lucky to have him on 'our side'... (ergh uhgh... sorry i just gagged!)
when you address the president, you address him as Mr. President or President LastName- regardless of who he is or whether you like him. He's still the President of the United States of America. You never address him as YOU. He is not your buddy.
HAHAH!!!! this from the lunatics that did NOTHING BUT DISRESPECT Pres. GW Bush.
Second, why is it that conservatives seem more concerned with who said what and when, more interested in politicizing this tragedy, more concerned with making it a campaign issue, more caught up in blaming President Obama than they are concerned about tragic death of Ambassador Stevens and three other brave Americans, and how best to prevent it in the future?
The answer is simple, Jody. You know why, but let me point it out for the clueless:
The GOP playbook orders that an opponent be attacked for his strengths.
Karl Rove has been advising the neo-cons to attack Obama on national security precisely because Obama has done so well at it. Does anyone remember a tall bearded guy named bin Laden? (shhh...they want us to forget about him...)
Romney is a dismal failure at security and foreign policy matters. It's a diversion away from reality...the game the GOP propagandists like to play.
The GOP doesn't care about the citizens of this country, or the future of the country. They want one thing: power. They will say and do anything to get their power back.
He did NOT say THIS act of terror... or YESTERDAY'S act of terror... (terms that would seem to link this specific event to an act of terror...)
that's your big rebuttal? Romney's claim was not THIS or YESTERDAYS act of terror. Romney's claim was that Obama blamed it on the video during that specific speech which he did not.
Romney spoke without having facts and failed. Get over it.
HAHAH!!!! this from the lunatics that did NOTHING BUT DISRESPECT Pres. GW Bush.
What hypocrites and liars you people are!
OMG, you do have a hard time understanding what CONTEXT means.
We are not talking about some site where average joe posts. We are talking about a formal presidential debate between two people, one of them being the President of the United States of America, and all this happening in front of the ENTIRE WORLD!
that's your big rebuttal? Romney's claim was not THIS or YESTERDAYS act of terror. Romney's claim was that Obama blamed it on the video during that specific speech which he did not.
Romney spoke without having facts and failed. Get over it.
OMG, you have a hard time with reading comprehension don't you!
No one said that Romney mentioned the words THIS or YESTERDAY's. That was MY way of demonstrating how Obummer MIGHT have linked the Benghazi attack to terrorism if he were actually doing his job.
Romney's point was that Obummer did not make that SPECIFIC link in his Rose Garden speech and that it took 14 days of Obummer's office blaming the attack on a video before they admitted it was an Al Qaeda attack.
Perhaps if you read more S L O W L Y you could grip the point of the post.
That was MY way of demonstrating how Obummer MIGHT have linked the Benghazi attack to terrorism if he were actually doing his job.
thanks for admitting that you are trying to put your own spin on something that has been already called a Romney fail by those who actually know what they are talking about.
YOUR way of demontrating means sh*t. You have no credibility to demonstrate anything. Get over yourself!
Hey, GWB speculated about WMD and guess what it did. It cost thousands of American lives.
I agree with bayllie, I'm sure glad you told that idiot SOTB. SOTB is putting his own little stupid spin on what the president said. Act of terror doesn't mean no difference than saying terrorist attack. I mean how stupid can people like SOTB actual be. I know what it is, that person hate obama so much that it don't matter what the president says they'll find some how to SPIN it..
I agree with bayllie, I'm sure glad you told that idiot SOTB. SOTB is putting his own little stupid spin on what the president said
at least he is admitting that he is putting HIS own spin on it which is shocking. But what's even more shocking is admitting that he is putting his own spin on it AND expecting others to take it as a FACT.
It was not my 'SPIN'... just my attempt to imagine how the president (or anyone) would actually link the event to an act of terrorism. Don't you think that IF he has said "YESTERDAY's act of terrorism" that there would be no doubt that he intended to call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism? I
I mean... for someone that is supposed to be such a great orator you would think that he would understand that.
No... he knew EXACTLY what he was saying when he said "No actS of terrorism..."
However, I would like to thank you for demonstrating that I was correct in my assessment of your reading comprehension skills. ;-)
Dan - you have to realize that concernedone shares part of the same moniker as Concern. It must be the name - all who use it are delusional - or just plain stupid!
Way to promote the party, and your future opinions!
BTW - A lot of things "concern" me... The way the Tea Party has such support from a LARGE segment of society... The way one politician after another twists the Constitution to force it to fit their ideology... The way the left spins everything negatively that the right proposes - thus dividing this nation like NEVER before... The way this government continually robs-Peter-to-pay-Paul to fund pet projects... The way Romney had to act timidly last night when he DARED say something like, 'what is wrong with having a child brought up by 2 parents. What is wrong with suggesting people get married before having children'. More concerning is why he had to say it under his breath so as not to offend someone. Logic is fleeing this nation in a hurry - THAT is CONCERNING!
OMG! Now I've seen a lot of really stupid posts but this ...
The way Romney had to act timidly last night when he DARED say something like, 'what is wrong with having a child brought up by 2 parents. What is wrong with suggesting people get married before having children'
TIMID Mitt??????? That's a new one! More like I wanna force my beliefs on you Mitt and screw ya if you don't like it.
Layton---wasn't it odd that Mitt made those comments to a question about gun control? It was as if he had "family values" comments he needed to check off his list and figured he'd get them over with. Seems to me it was pandering to the NRA crowd but doesn't he have their votes sewn up already?
Steeler Fan - I found it odd that when the moderator, Candy Crowley, tried to get Obama back on the subject of "guns" Obama just blew her off and went into something about hiring teachers. What did hiring teachers, which is the responsibility of States and local communities not the Federal Government, have to do with the subject of "guns"?
Seems to me Obama was pandering to his left wing base more than to the undecided voters.
Caesar Augustus: maybe the Democrats take seriously their real oath of office, "...To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States..." particularly the right of people to assemble and seek redress of grievances from their governement,
instead of an oath to make a political party or Grover Norquist first.
Where do you get this idea that Dems are the protectors of the Constitution?
Your own president believes this is a living document that requires change! He said it in his books and on numerous talks with his special interest groups.
Look at his administrations record and see how he has circumvented this great document.
same liberals that limit personal choice? Like Flammin hot cheetoes and 'Large' sugary drinks. smoking, guns etc. Nah Dirp has one too many consonants in his moniker.
Defenders of the constitution and all its amendments. except the ones that infringe on liberalism
Caesar: I happen to agree with you on the "LARGE" (aren't they really jumbo or xtra large ?) sugary drinks. The NYC health department was rather stupid.
I don't remember the exact quotation, or who said it, but it went something like "You may have all of the rights and liberty you want, however those end when they interfere with my rights and liberty." That would seem to apply to the situations involving the smoking in confined public areas and the sale/use of assault weapons (which pose a great threat to the public peace.)
As to Flamin Hot Cheetos, no one has banned them, some school boards have just chosen to not sell them. You can call that a ban or attack on freedom, I call it the school not supporting the sale of junk food. I fully support your right to buy them and consume as much of them as you want. I don't think are schools should be in the business of supporting the sale of empty calories.
1funnygirl: EVERY Republican has signed a sworn oath to Grover Norquist and holds THAT oath above their oath of office. THAT is the ultimate special interest group, representing the interests of ALEC, the Koch brother, Carl Rove's groups and others. THAT is the real circumvention of the Constitution, the corporate moneyed interests influencing CONGRESS.
America has now met the many MYTH Romneys . Now America knows they can get their Asses Kicked (thumbs up). Yes Indeed, our President brought them all out. No wonder Queen Anne said she was worried about MYTH'S mental health.
since you like to degrade romneys wife, at least she has been proud of america her whole life unlike current first lady who preaches eat well as she scarfs down the ice cream. and myths how about bozos lies you know the ones about libya or how good the economy is doing
I loved the way Obama beat Romney like a rented mule on the Libya question. I found it absolutely sickening how Romney and the Republicans were actually gleeful that Americans serving their country were killed overseas just so they could score cheap political points. Ambassador Steven's father said the politicizing of his son's death was horrible and I agree.
Willard even went so far as to tell a story about how he got lost going to a party and met one of the Navy Seals that died. While meeting that Seal probably is as close as Willard or anyone in his extended family has come to actually serving in the military, the Seal's mom called Willard out on politicizing her son's death and friends of the Seal pointed out how lame Willard was in introducing himself four times to him. There is no gutter low enough for Willard to crawl in if he thinks he can score a political gotcha on the President.
if your guy did such a great job, how is it that MYTH gained points over him in the polls? Not the liberal media after-debate polls, but the national ones?
Second debate, second MYTH bump thanks to Obama.
New energy obama - same old talking points from his continual campaign!
Sadly, we've come to expect Romney to mislead so no one is surprised by this. But more importantly, the question put to the President and Mr. Romney was about equal pay for equal work.
The President answered it because, after all, he signed the Ledbetter Act, while Romney talked about "binders of women". He opposed the Act and was too cowardly to tell the questioner that or to explain his opposition to the concept of equal pay for equal work. The President clearly got the best of this exchange and the debate overall.
I suspect that the Romney camp rehearsed this response. THey had to figure a question about the Lily Ledbetter Act was coming and so this was their way of addressing it without endorsing fair pay. Too bad they didn't do their homework about the "binders full of women" being someone else's ideas and too bad Mitt went off script, telling us it was a good thing he let his female staff go home early to cook dinner. I wonder if he gave them pearl necklaces like June Cleaver used to wear.
It couldn't have ended better for the President last night...
Question: To each of you. What do you believe is the biggest misperception that the American people have about you as a man and a candidate? Using specific examples, can you take this opportunity to debunk that misperception and set us straight?
...and Mr. Romney starts talking about wanting to help 100% of Americans as if that 47% comment was some kind of misconception???
He made the statement about 47%. He did...and nobody made him say it...and Conservatives cheered him on....and now he wants t walk away from his own remarks.
He said it...and he got caught.
My father taught me that CHARACTER is defined as who you are and what you do when you think nobody's watching. Behind closed doors, when he thought nobody else was watching, Mr. Romney told a meeting of his donors that 47% of this nation would never take responsibility for themselves and wanted to think they were victims.
That's not a misconception. That's what you said.
...and thank you, President Obama, for seizing on the moment and calling Mr. Romney out for what he said.
Yeah speaking of behind closed doors, what the heck do you think Obama meant when he told Russian PM, Dimitri Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility"
If you are 100% sure Obama is the right choice, then there's nothing to fear about checking a youtube video, is there?
Youtube ..... /watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE
In other words, I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! C'mon Obama, we're not dumb, and it's still about jobs, your record doesn't support jobs growth. You are done, as you said in February 2009.
We need jobs growth and Mitt is not only the guy to do it, he truly is a good man despite the paid attack media on the far-leaning-biased-left. Don't believe me? Here's the proof and this is all real and verifiable.
Youtube ........ look up "Romney the search". Shows his true character and that he does care about 100% of Americans. It's up to you, you can believe what you want, but the facts are all there.
When Joe Biden was combative during the VP debates, the Fox spin machine had enough gall to suggest he was drunk or suffering from dementia. Will they make the same claims about Mittens? Since Mormons don't drink, we can rule that out. Guess that only leaves dementia. Don't worry Mittens, pre-existing conditions are covered under Obamacare, although there is no known cure for being a chronic @!$%#. Sorry.
Women belong in Board Rooms, not Binders... that's just another example of how Mitt panders when he's not busy flip-flopping...
I did think it was kind of telling that he had to correct the pronunciation of the name of the young woman who asked about Immigration... so nice of him to make sure he gets it right before he disenfranchises her.
The most important flip-flop of the evening had to be on contraception... I am pretty sure I wasn't the only one who witnessed that 180... oh sure, he's all for contraception, except for his choice of running mate. That's a sticky wicket for the Romney/Ryan ticket. His running mate is such a stringent Catholic, he couldn't possibly endorse Romney's latest position... but like the weather in Hawaii... if you don't' like it, wait ten minutes...
Abbie - Mitt broke the good-old-boy trend and sought out women for cabinet positions. He should get an award for this!!!!!!!!!!!
For the life of me, I can't understand how this can be spun negatively...???
BTW... Did you notice when the moderator said to BHO, "The next question is from Kerry _." (not sure of the last name)... Obama looked straight at a woman and smiled and said "Hi Kerry". Immediately a big dude stood up behind the lady and corrected BHO saying HIS name was Kerry...
Focus on what you want & let the factual details slide by... Wasn't this a bit sexist? If it happened to Romney is would be...
Abbie - Mitt broke the good-old-boy trend and sought out women for cabinet positions. He should get an award for this!!!!!!!!!!!
Did he?
While Romney did get a binder listing qualified female candidates after being elected governor in 2003, reporter David S. Bernstein said, it was assembled not by his staff, but by a coalition of groups led by the bipartisan Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus, which started collecting the information in 2002 as part of the Massachusetts Government Appointments Project (MassGAP).
Please, you want contraception it cost $10 dig in your welfare and get it dont make me pay for it
OilShark, do you currently have health care coverage through a private insurer? If you answer "yes" then you are already paying for someone elses contraceptives.
Mitt stuck by his wife while she had a serious bout with breast cancer, and he constantly reminded her that what she did was the real work (raising their kids) and he just supported her.
He obviously supports women, it's all there to see for those who will see it. But those who will not are always going to be limited only to what they want to see. If you go through life that way, how do you learn anything?
Covering one eye does not make your vision better, it removes the depth of your perception.
De Noid - Thank you for the excerpt. That is how Romney said they found the eligible women who had NOT applied for his cabinet. Your point verifies that this was how they accomplished elevating women to those cabinet positions!
The point was there were qualified females available, but none had sought out these positions. Instead of Romney choosing from the application pile, he sought out and found a great source of information on qualified women.
It is SO hard to argue with his administration being ranked #1 in the USA for gender equity. And since there is nothing to grasp at, folks spin and make stuff up.
Also in 8.6... Separation of church and state... If my belief system is such that I don't agree with contraception, or I am theologically opposed to killing the unborn, why should I be forced to pay for it?
I recall discussing various alternatives with our company insurance agent the last time we obtained a new health insurance policy. A couple of the things that each and every policy had in it was provisions for ED, prostate exams, gynecological exams and maternity coverage. All of the policies had these provisions, even the ones offered to groups of nuns, groups of people over the age of 60, and groups of monks (the agent had both groups in his client lists.)
Insurance, by its very nature, takes the cost of various items and spreads them over all of the policy holders. All of the policy holders will not use all of the available items. Most will not use any part of the available services in a year.
Contraceptive medication is a medical decision made by a woman and her doctor. The ability to receive a particular prescribed medication should not be made by anyone except the doctor and his patient. The ACA takes all social issues associated with this particular medicine out of the arena.
Mitt stuck by his wife while she had a serious bout with breast cancer, and he constantly reminded her that what she did was the real work (raising their kids) and he just supported her.
Ann Romney had a lumpectomy. No chemo, no radiation. She has been cancer free ever since. I know women who have had double mastectomies and lost all their hair from the chemo, and they don't whine about having had breast cancer like Ann Romney does. She's great at playing the martyr.
He obviously supports women, it's all there to see for those who will see it. But those who will not are always going to be limited only to what they want to see. If you go through life that way, how do you learn anything?
Romney supports his wife and that translates to support for women in general? Not in my book, honey.
““My — my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the deficit.” MITTLIE
As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romney’s plan can’t both exempt middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. “He’s promised all these things and he can’t do them all. In order for him to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, he’d have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people making less than $200,000 a year,” the Center found.”
I wish Mitt could explain to me why he would cut taxes and eliminate loopholes to keep the revenue the same. Why do it then?
And he still doesn't seem to get how little money some people in this country get by on. He wants to give everyone a "bucket" for their deductions. He thinks $25,000 is a good number. Does he not realize that people earning less than $25,000 would then pay no taxes. But doesn't he think those people are freeloaders?
your an idiot he said their percentage of tax burden would remain same not the dollar amount. the problem with you free loaders is you dont realize with a good economy more tax rev comes in even with lower tax rates. Mitt is trying to encourage people to invest so when they retire they dont have to depend on govt.
Steeler Fan - What is Obama's plan to revise the tax codes, he doesn't have one except to raise taxes. Last night Obama lied again about how many and how much of tax reductions he has created.
OllShark1: If the Republican plan is to lower the RATES, but not lower the amount of taxes each person pays, what is the point of lowering the rates ?
It seems to me to be an exercise in futility if the plan ends up doing nothing.
Unless there is just no way that tax rates can be reduced by 20%, yet the total revenue each person pays stays the same because there are not enough deductions to be removed to cover the 20% tax cut.
Two major national presidential polls are out today. Several statewide polls are also out as well. In the Gallup presidential tracking poll Mitt Romney had a 6% lead among likely voters and a 2% lead among registered voters. When likely voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 45% compared to 51% for Mitt Romney. When registered voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 46% compared to 48% for Mitt Romney. Third party candidates combined with undecided voters were at 4% among likely voters and increased to 6% when registered voters were included in the presidential poll. Gallup released their presidential tracking poll at 1 p.m. ET, Wednesday, October 17, 2012.
Rasmussen Reports presidential tracking poll had Mitt Romney with a 1% lead nationally. President Obama was at 48% compared to 49% for Romney. Third party candidates were at 1% and undecided voters were at 2% nationally. Rasmussen Reports released their presidential tracking poll this morning, October 17, 2012.
I couldn't believe the Obama lies last night, truly amazing. For him to sit there and say he called it a "terrorist act" was incredible. And then the moderator to bail him out, truly pathetic. The other huge lie was the whole planned parenthood giving mammograms to millions of woman. Seriously...planned parenthood doesn't do mammograms, they do referrals. Obama won on the stupid questions being asked, like the question the young lady asked about equal pay for woman...talk about a softball question.
JFK-2112 - The President did mispeak about mammograms. Planned Parenthood does many healthcare screenings for women but refers them for mammograms.
The President won all questions that required significant answers. As usual, Romney said nothing except I've done this before and can do it again. He lied and told no facts.
Not to women. As far as the Libya question, you can parse whether an "act of terror" is somehow different from a terrorist act, but the transcripts and video of his Rose Garden speech show that he said "act of terror". Have your wonderboy get his facts straight next time he makes an accusation.
In response to the consulate attack, the president said, "The United States is a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the Libya attack was "spontaneous" and started with the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, over an anti-Islamic film.
The staff of the Cairo embassy, … condemned the film and the "continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers said Monday the question now is whether the Obama administration lied, or is clueless. She acknowledged neither is a great scenario.
Such as? Will you please elaborate? Anyone can call another a liar, and I see it as commonly as every other comment. If you want your comment to be different, you have to elaborate on your position. Simply saying, "right wing lies" means nothing to anyone except those who are already decidedly left-leaning.
So if you want to make friends based on common ground, I'm sure Fiesty will love you. If you really want to change something, use specifics.
Again and again courts and lawmakers have affirmed the right of politicians to lie. Citizens who applaud Obama's lies to declare he “won”, have made lying a necessity.
Given the political advantage of telling lies to a naïve public, don't expect any politician to stop lying! The candidate that tells only the truth, will lose. This will remain true either until our lawmakers stop treating themselves like a privileged elite ruling class, or lying produces a political disadvantage. That is to say, we better just get used to it and start finding the truth for ourselves.
although I disagree with your tone, the message is true. WE must determine what is true or not, because being spoonfed "truth" by media is a very bad idea.
there are two quotes which come to mind:
"An ignorant electorate is a politicians best friend"
The reality is the RWNJ pundits are upset because they were starting to convince their mindless minions that because the President did not immediately jump up and call the attack in Libya a terrorist attack before the attack was even over, the President must be covering something up. What's amazing is that is was Rahm Emmanuel who said, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste."
The problem for Mitt Romney and the Republicans is that they attempted to use the Benghazi situation purely for political gain, rather than to improve the country. THAT is the difference that the country is seeing between the two parties.
Well, President Obama is our 1st Black President since the inception of our country. That is momentous given the racial history of this country.
I would relish an Obama tie.
For the record, before you go call me a racist , I voted for him not because of his color; but because of his compassion, commitment, hard work, and brilliance.
I would never vote for a whacked out Black like Justice Clarence Thomas or Florida Rep Allen West.
Bev, I'll admit I'm not sure what you're really saying here by noting race. I too celebrated America when Obama was elected, although I didn't vote for him. And now, I'll celebrate for America when he's voted out of office. His skin color has nothing to do with anything. His policies are what I'm voting against.
Loved the focus group on MSNBC last night, asking independent voters who they would vote for and they said "Romney". Now that @!$%# was funny... Obama has no record to run on thats why by a 2 to 1 margin voters said Romney won on the economy. Guess what folks... "Its the Economy Stupid".
JFK - Drunk were you? Independents polled said they are moving to Obama. You can't just say things and think people will believe your lies or you're just like Romney!
considering the current dynamic, these are the definitions -
Undecided - don't give @!$%# and too lazy to make up my own mind
Independent - former republican but too embarassed by Romney/Ryan ticket to declare outright support. Not sure its worth the effort to vote for such a turdsicle. Wishing for Romney to be struck dead so they could have a Ryan/Huckabee ticket.
Romney was ambushed by a highly-biased moderator, and an "uncommitted" audience who cheered when the moderator endorsed an Obama lie (she later had to admit that "Romney Was Actually Right On Libya"). A CNN/ORC International nationwide poll of debate-watchers taken right after the debate showed 46% thought Obama had won; 39% thought Romney had won. As yet there have been no modifications posted to those statistics.
I would find it surprising if none of the respondents to the poll would want to change their opinion when the Obama lies and moderator bias are exposed.
The best question was the individual telling the President he voted for him last year and asked why he should vote for him this time around. Obama couldn't answer the question...classic!
However, when CNN disected the KEY Issues, Romney kicked Obambams azz back to Air Force One....Economy and Ability to Lead Country....Romney by a Landslide. Obama??? Won Most Likeable by a very small margin and then promptly awarded the Pinocchio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Award for his BLATANT LIES!!!! Oh, and CBS had Romney Winning 70-30% on Economy. OK. Obama LOST!!!!
Moderate: are you talking about the CNN poll that, even they admit, had about 8% more Republicans AND 8% fewer Democrats than the national population ?
That's almost like taking a poll of FOX viewers and asking them if humans contribute to the changing climate and getting a resounding NO.
As soon as CNN revealed the inherent bias in the polling, I stopped watching CNN. The poll was useless as it does not reflect the nation.
Two cold fish (Called "alpha-dogs!)...who treated each other with little respect...but we will elect one the President. All eyes will be on the third debate, moderated by Steve Smoger (look it up) and rescheduled to be held in "Thunderdome"...
The sliver of the electorate (in half a dozen "swing" states) who sway from one side to the other, based on the current day's news cycle, like "amber waves of grain" are still uncertain. They will wait for the inevitable "rubber" match, as will we all.
So both sides can spin like Sarah Jessica's character in "L.A. Story" until the final head to head battle which will be (spoiler alert!) a "draw"...
(A draw is when red media declares R the winner and blue media picks O)
The undead, er undecided will still be vacillating through Halloween...
November 7th can't get here soon enough...although I have a feeling that no matter who wins this nonsense won't stop. It didn't stop after 2008. Let's hope one those "end of the world" predictions are correct if (pick your candidate) wins. i don't know if i can stomache another election cycle filled with this much stupidity.
Thanks for your posts Dangerfield, they always seem to add levity to it all. :)
You have to wonder how anyone can still be undecided in any of the "toss up" states. Both parties have inundated the airwaves with advertising. The positions of both the President and Romney have been made fairly clear over the last two years. While Mr. Romney has lately been trying to redefine his position, only those who are not paying attention have no clue at this point.
Well, hopefully the undecided will take their brains off the shelves and vote for the President. The alternative is to remain brain dead and join the GOP.
Last night Romeny came off looking like Richard Noggin.
The next few days of people seeing him ask the question repeatedly will show them just what kind of guy Mitt is. I mean really...Have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..sheesh, what a dipstick.
pension? who has those anymore, certainly not the middle-class. We just have to pray that the employer has a 401k plan and that the stock market doesn't take dump again, and hopefully that will be enough to supplement the Social Security that I have PAID INTO my whole life, not some voucher plan.
Don't want to pay my Social Security? Fine, give me my money back, all of it, with interest.
If I had scammed the tax system by putting away $100 million in an IRA at a time when the maximum deduction was 30,000, I'd probably be looking at that pension every day like Mitt does. He doesn't seem to get that the President is well off already and will likely be more well-off after he leaves office in 2016 and isn't focused on his pension. The President is focused on helping his fellow citizens and leading our country.
"Last night Romeny came off looking like Richard Noggin.
The next few days of people seeing him ask the question repeatedly will show them just what kind of guy Mitt is. I mean really...Have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..sheesh, what a dipstick."
Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney was responding to Obama's accusation that Romney's retirement investments were in China. Romney's point was that he does not oversee his retirement investments and where they go, that job is deligated to another, and Obama is doing the exact same thing because that's what you do with your retirements when you're too busy running for President among other things.
Romney's point was that Obama was being hypocritical, not that Romney was saying he was richer. How childish, and stupid. He built a business from the ground up, went to college, raised a family, cared for his wife with cancer and has only ever been married to one woman. If you really believe that he was just showing off his wealth it is not because that assessment makes sense, it is because you hate him. Hate is stupid, it's worse than being drunk and like being drunk, most don't even know when they're intoxicated with it.
Your comment carries no value, substance, meaning, or credibility because you obviously hate the opponent. Obama doesn't hate him, he opposes him. That is what intelligent people do. Get smart please.
Mitt Romney, has the experience and a intense drive to bring this country back to greatness, that impresses me, he does understand that policies need to be agreed upon systematically not hasty decisions and not use the rush to assume approach,he also has the direct approach likeability factor,,, and Barrack Obama , definitley has the likeability factor and a great drive to accomplish, but i believe that admininstration that the president has appointed lacks the experience needed to bring forward the policies that can turn this country back to greatness, i was all about Obama in 2008. MUCH !different story in 2012.
I don't agree. The type of policies Romney favors - tax cuts and deregulation, were tried during Bush's two terms, wages for the middleclass went down, and we ended up in a Great Recession..
More recently, in two years of having a majority Republican state government, Maine is the only New England state not to see an improvement in employment, and revenues are down 25 million dollars from our state tax cuts. Tea party policies have not worked in my state - health insurance premiums for rural customers rose, for example, after "reform" was passed to let companies charge more according to where in the state you live. Ironically, premiums are down in the "blue" areas, the bigger towns.
Obozo forgot to mention that liitle item regardingthe disparity between the disma Compensation comparisons of Women on his staff to Men on his Staff....Women are getting "stiffed" . Or the fact that 500,000+ Women who have LOST THEIR JOBS under Obozo. And, BTW, for those loonie Libs that audaciously THINK Obama won anything last night....yep, he won "most likeable" but by a much narrower margin than you wish. "Most Likeable", Hmmmmmmm......what say we dig up Elvis and Run him for Dim Prez??? Romney kicked Obozos azz on EVERY KEY ISSUE, indicating what??? AMERICANS (44%) think Obozo is OK, BUT DO NOT TRUST HIM WITHTHEIR ECONOMY OR THEIR FUTURE. Buh-Buh-Buh-Buh-Bye Grinning Cheshire Cat Barry and "Doggie Dentures" Biden.
Let the RICH gets RICHER and the POOR gets POORER. If you like that phrase vote ROMNEY!........... It's all about not letting the Republican party get in office. " All us Democrats must hold ground do not vote Republican"
Romney helped save 80% OF THE COMPANIES IN WHICH HE INVESTED!
It's so annoying to see comments regurgitate what they see on Hardball, CNN, CBS, and NBC. Get a life, get a brain, and think for yourself, unless you want a life controlled by media.
It's still about jobs and Romney has a history to prove he will do it.
Obama has a history that obviously reflects he will not create more jobs.
If Romney cut every single tax deduction for individuals and every business tax credit on the books, it still wouldn't pay for his 20% across the board tax rate cut. It does NOT add up. No matter how much business experience he thinks he has, it does not add up.
If Obama TAXED the TOP 10% of the Country's Wealthiest at 100% IT WOULD NOT COVER THE NATIONAL DEBT HE HAS ATTAINED, Nor Fix HIS DEFICIT. Sit on it, Libs.
I am so tired of hearing Mitt say" I know what it takes ". What I would like to hear are the specifics of what deductions, tax credits, loopholes he is going to change. He has avoided this question for some time. Last evening he threw out some exemption number which he probably derived by using the ROMA model. The ROMA model is an acronym for " Right Out of My A&S". He is like a Hollywood studio movie lot store front. It looks good from the front, but nothing but 2 by 4's behind the facade.
Why do you Obama slugs want details? Hell, Hussein did not give details when he ran in 08. Except for hopey and changey. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The point being missed here is that unlike Obama, Romney wants input and cooperation from the other party on exactly how things will be done. He has identified the goals and wants everyone to participate in achieving them. This is the best way to get things done.
Romney is smart enough to know that identifying the goals and exactly how they will be achieved is another way of saying my way or the highway. Obama has divided this country through his class warfare tactics. Romney is trying to bring us back together for the common good..
Romney reminds me of a sleaze ball cut rate used car lot sales man with his smooth talk, phony smile and his fingers crossed.......if elected maybe he will make ADULTERY LEGAL.
fun......at your house it already IS!!! Oh, sorry...you didn't know, did you??? Got any more SLEAZY comments to toss towards the NEXT POTUS, azzhole???
Feisty the Red Communist said..."No one puts Feisty in a binder." That would be correct, because she is an unemployed slug. Feisty puts hard working taxpayers in a bind because they have to pay for her miserable, pathetic life. Get a job slug.
Fisty is taking a nap.....pardon.....Fisty has slipped into a drunken stupor. Someone pick her up before she drowns in her own Liberal Puke. Better yet, let her sleep.
The debate last night was just the same things we have heard from both candidates for the past weeks and months. All they provided were soundbytes but I am not sure anyone really learned anything new from either candidate. It was just a debate of semantics and petty issues. It did not seem like either candidate answered any questions directly and just used the time to see who could use more time than the other or who could invade the other's personal space the most. I believe the next debate will be a carbon copy of this debate only based on a different topic-foreign poicy.
We learned that there is absolutely a collusion between the media and the Left. All the way Candy HAVING THE TRANSCRIPT for the Libya rose garden comments! This was PLANNED! It was STAGED to help Obama and Obama EVEN ASKED CANDY TO READ IT!!!
We learned that even with the facts right in your face which Romney presented, and did it with REAL numbers, people like you can still be BLIND AS A BAT!
We learned that when people support a candidate based on emotions they will look past the MOST obvious - a FAILED PRESIDENCY!
We learned that Obama has his OWN definition of "Free markets"! But he can't define it besides slogans; fair, spread the wealth.. blah blah blah! Same old Marxist BS!
Holly @!$%#! It doesn't GET more contrast!
The guy in Frank's Fox News focus group nailed it - "Obama has just given us BULL@!$%# for 4 years!"
WOW! What a damn fantasy world you on the left live in!
You have an in-our-face collusion with the LEFTIST OBAMA SUPPORTER moderator... - The out of balance interruptions and cutting Romney off (2 to 1) - The (now retracted and admitted BS by Candy - the Obama debate bailout) LIE on Libya!
But the most glaring difference between the left and right is - the TRUTH! The left are generally more unhinged, THEY LIE, and they lie so much they believe their own lies!
And when the left can't convince you they'll just exterminate you!
We were subjected to a weeks worth of chatter on how "rusty" the President would be in the town hall format!
If coming out and surgically removing that @!$%# eating grin from Willard's face is considered "rusty", I would hate to see what President Obama would of done to him with a "scalpel"! lol
Don't "bind" me Bro!
The Feisty One won again...2 in a row.
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All the talking heads and pundits used the word 'Feisty' to describe the President's performance in most of those post-debate shows.
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The President helped his own and thus our shared cause.
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God helps those who help themselves.
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4 more years.
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May The Feisty Obama Win In November...
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Yes We Still Can.
How could he be rusty??? All the chatter is how he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. His own camp said he spent 3 straight days - not running the country - but preparing for this debate.
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The President is The Anointed One..
Mitt is just Annoying - The Annoying One
So the next debate is on foreign policy. What is Mitt going to talk about?
His foreign accounts and how all the rich people need protection from us little tax payers? Cuz that's the only foreign policy experience he has. Unless you count living in a former Nazi mansion during the Vietnam War.
Or when you go to London and insult just everybody. Warsaw wasn't too crazy about him either now that I think about it.
The leaders of Israel couldn't wait for him to leave. They spoke quite highly of President Obama.
Foreign Policy. Stick with your foreign accounts Mitt.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Don't "bind" me Bro!
MYTH doesn't need a binder full of women, he needs a binder full of answers!!!!
Frustrated Mitt crossed the "red line" several times last night and got punished for it with a last minute southpaw punch from the President. Let see how he picks his fight in the next debate.
concernedone
How could he be rusty??? All the chatter is how he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. His own camp said he spent 3 straight days - not running the country - but preparing for this debate.
concernedone,
How do you know that? You are not in his administration; neither are you Secret Service.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
The question, Domenico, is what lesson Mitt takes from the whoppin' he got last night. He was frantic and frenetic, disrespectful and tried to take over the rules to suit himself. President Obama slapped him down, and deservedly so.
So what does Mitty do now? Try a charm offensive, which is alien to his character, become more petulant and demanding, but no matter what he does, he will continue to be fact challenged and a liar.
One caveat: Be careful, Domenico, about stereotyping women and their response to an active debate. I can speak only for myself, but I was glad to see Mitty taken to the woodshed. Long past due.
Also, the polls I have been reading give the President a bigger win from those who say they are uncommitted. I do believe you are being far kinder to MItt then he deserves. This wasn't close at all.
concernedone
there is nothing intelligent out of one of the above posts. Look at Pat with her/his Nazi mansion in Vietnam? WTF? I tell you what, these primitive screwheads spent more time in reality instead of pumping the neighbors dog we might be able to have a civilized discussion.
As for Feisty, truly a simple minded creature. Jim Jones and David Koresh and the likes of them recruit the Feisty's of the world. Their ferver for their ideology is very dangerous. Feisty is Obama's Hans Gruber
Spin it how you want, but two weeks ago I was disappointed. Pretty pumped today. The pres was able to sum up Mitts five point plan to one point. Everything from this point will fit in that box Mitt wants the top earners to play by different rules.
hey, Pizza-Pizza
" Their ferver for their ideology is very dangerous. Feisty is Obama's Hans Gruber"
contradict much? Hans Gruber, the fictional heavy in "Die Hard" had no ideology, he was pure capitalism.
and according to YOUR ideology, he was a small businessman, an employer, a risk-taker. Yanno, those "job-creators" that should be getting taxbreaks and lower regulations. He was one of YOU.
The current president did come out fighting, and did a credible job in shoring up his lost base.
But as the president has said, words are important. His words were recycled talking points he's used throughout his campaign. What did he show about his plans other than what has already been said?
Loved the chubby lady who was to be in control - she certainly gave Obama all that he needed for time.....did he have the questions in advance.
Speaking of questions, if those people who asked them knew what they wanted to ask, why then did they have to read them from paper and why did a few happen to have difficulty reading their own question?
Say what you choose to, at best, it was a draw. Same old Obama, same old talking points - nothing different but image.
of course you libs are excited for bozo..compared to his last debate he was good..but still didnt tell you how he was going to fix economy and you losers cheer..this clown tells the world he doesnt even look at his own investments yet you believe he looks at our countrys? get real
Bev...GF!
No one puts Feisty Redhead in a binder! lol
Feisty, Bev:
Saw a suggestion on Huff Post that women started sending Mittens binders! I did pause and give it some thought!
For the young, "binder" used to be a euphemism for bra!
1funnygirl... is that a pic of feisty lmao it sure is funny how obamas people get on news threads to pretend they are normal people for his bs agenda. It will be even funnier when they are out of a job on 11-7
Again Romney just kept saying "I've done this before. I can do it." No specifics - no plans - no facts. Just rhetoric.
Same old Mitt - nothing new to see!
Obama/Biden 2012
how bout the drunk tank? more up your alley eh?
Better start putting in those job apps in a binder feisty
Conservatives used to put women on a pedestal, or put them front and center - view them in a centerfolder in front of them?
but Mitt puts them in a binder - well, there is progress????????
I have been sarcastic...
as opposed to the same policies that are dragging our economy down? what plans does obama have. the only facts are that obama has done a poor job and not once did he defend himself for handling the economy poorly, he just blamed everyone else
1funnygirl
Loved the chubby lady who was to be in control - she certainly gave Obama all that he needed for time.....did he have the questions in advance.
Next time bring in your own skinny lady. We love our chubby Candy Crowley.
We would but you libs would cry foul... you only see it as fair if you lie about polls and have all lib moderators.
1funnygirl . . .
Does the GOP give out paranoia pills to their voters or what? I noticed in your entire post not one mention of your support of your candidate. Then again, very few ever post that they like anything about Mittens but they sure do like posting their anger and hatred for the President.
What was your previous screen name? Your posting style is oh so familiar . . . .
Obama/Biden 2012
Congratulations Feisty, you're the first one again! How do you do it? I usually expect to see you there first, so eh, what can I say but you're quick.
I've never supported Obama but I gotta hand it to him, he was way better this debate than his last one.
But here's the problem, moderators cannot call someone out unless they know their facts. Obama mentioned "acts of terror" when referring to 09/11/2001 (starting at about 3:19 in the youtube address) but never specifically called the Benghazi attack a terrorist attack until 9 days later as the moderator admitted to Romney shortly after showing her bias toward Obama. The moderator only showed her true colors so thank you, you have no credibility.
Number two: Obama declared: I say what I mean!
Except when it comes to "...if I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one term proposition". - President Barack Obama, February 2009.
Look up the quote here Youtube tag... /watch?v=CCN5-ovvFL0
When you don't have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from, that's all Obama did. He even (LOL) He even tried to put words in Mitt's mouth and Mitt called him out on it. Obama, that is childish, and desperate. Trying to put words in your opponent's mouth is like asking the moderator for help because you want to change the subject REALLY bad!!!LOL
Even Obama (The self-proclaimed one-term president) wants you to vote for... (I'm going to spoon feed you some words too, hope you enjoy prez)
Romney/Ryan 2012
the pot calling the kettle black ....wheres your support
On top of that, has anyone else noticed that you never hear anyone coming forward saying what a good guy Mr. Romney is or how he's a good, decent, honest businessman?
your absolutely right about him lacking ideology but it still paints feisty as every other ideolog terrorist. As for capitalistic, not by definition but you think capitalists steal. Of course you benevolent libs think its ok to steal from someone else to provide for you. So whats the difference again? You're more generous with someone elses money? How NOBLE.
SeekingSanity
Again Romney just kept saying "I've done this before. I can do it." No specifics - no plans - no facts. Just rhetoric
At least he's done Something before. Which is better than Obama... What has he done? Increased the debt, oh that's nice.
Bev, Mitt has all the answers. The problem is he uses different ones depending on who he's talking to.
Pizza-Pizza,
"ideolog terrorist"?
seriously? you should have had some decaf this morning. To my knowledge, Feisty has not blown up anyone, held people for ransom, or threatened mass destruction. What she is doing is the same thing as you, merely free speech.
But be careful painting with such a broad brush, you may get some of that muck on yourself.
Put women in a binder - so Mitt has a new kinky habit of enjoying and binding women? Not only forcing them in bondage, also in bandage now?
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Mitt, it's not nice to put women in a bind.
Little seizure is at it again... eh?
He's my #1 leg humper! lol
Bob - Another thing Obama has done was to stick to the George Bush exit strategy in Iraq, or as BHO puts it, "I said I would end the war in Iraq and that is what I did".
Don't forget, BHO did try to negotiate a troop presence in Iraq beyond the Bush timeline, but the Iraqi government would not "guarantee" the safety of such a presence. BHO didn't have a choice at that point but withdraw... Oops, I mean, "end" the war in Iraq...
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
Feisty, Bev:
Saw a suggestion on Huff Post that women started sending Mittens binders! I did pause and give it some thought!
For the young, "binder" used to be a euphemism for bra
newday
In the old days the binders were used to put around the breast to dry up the mother's milk.
Hell, Feisty...every dog in your neighborhood is "your leg humper".
I love the rigties' way of thinking. Mitt is much better than President during 1st debate = Mitt gets the credit. Paul Ryan and Mitt get put in their place during debates = it's the moderators' fault.
The moderator didn't force Romney to make an idiot out of himself during the Libya comment. Romney thought he had the president by the ballz and went for it. Too bad for him, Romney didn't know the facts, and took a shot that ended up being his biggest mistake of the debate.
I will aslo point this out: you may not like President, you may disagree with him. Heck, you may even hate him. But Romney should know better than be disrespectful to the President of the United States by saying "YOU will get your turn." Mitt, the President is not one of you "yes sir" employees. Show some respect!
i have no problems with that at all. I never called for her to be removed. sorry Feisty is unhinged. Besides its libbys on here that want to silence people and remove the 1st amendment and the second and the third.....
Im sure people like No Joe would disagree. She like a lot of libs on here have called for violence against other posters.
like pretending im on ignore
sure Feisty, Im on ignore.
funny Detroit, you seem to have a roller brush yourself.
concernedone
even if the deadline got pushed to this year, we still would have been out of Iraq 98 years sooner than if John McSame was POTUS.
NDD --
I thought so too. Very bizarre.
I like America --
Yes, he did well and clearly won the debate.
Exactly. That's why Republicans constantly paint Obama as a socialist or marxist or whatever the word of the day is.
ROMNEY: HAS MORE FLIP FLOPS THAN THE SHOE CHECK GIRL AT A BAGHDAD MOSQUE
Romney meets Anti-Romney in Parallel Universes...........as he uses affirmative action binder to hire women in MA despite opposing affirmative action.
'The TARP program... was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures.' [1]
'When government is... bailing out banks... we have every good reason to be alarmed.' [2]
'I like health care mandates. The mandates work.' [1]
'I think health care mandates are unconstitutional on the 10th Amendment front.' [2]
'I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose.' [1]
'I never really called myself pro-choice.' [2]
'I believe the tax on capital gains should be zero.' [1]
'Capital gains taxes are a tax cut for fat cats.' [2]
'Roe v. Wade has gone too far.' [1]
'I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.' [2]
'I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.' [1]
'Ronald Reagan is... my hero.' [2]
'When I first heard of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, I thought it sounded awfully silly.' [1]
''Don't Ask, Don't Tell has worked well.' [2]
'If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing health care, then that will be a model for the nation.' [1]
'What works in one state may not be the answer for another.' [2]
'In Massachusetts...the costs of health care will be reduced.' [1]
'We were unable to deal with... health care costs in Massachusetts.' [2]
'I've been a hunter pretty much all my life.' [1]
'Any description of my being a hunter is an overstatement of capability.' [2]
'I'm going to take burdens off the back of the auto industry.' [1]
'Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.' [2]
'I would like to have campaign spending limits.' [1]
'The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without limitations.' [2]
'I supported the assault weapon ban.' [1]
'I don't support any gun control legislation.' [2]
'Based on the numbers of American Muslims... I cannot see that a cabinet position would be justified.' [1]
'A person should not be elected because of his faith nor should he be rejected because of his faith.' [2]
'I'm not in favor of privatizing Social Security or making cuts.' [1]
'Social Security's the easiest to privatize and that's because you can give people a personal account.' [2]
'I don't line up with the NRA.' [1]
'I'm a member of the [NRA].' [2]
'The all-Democrat stimulus that was passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery...' [1]
'The all-Democrat stimulus passed in early 2009 has been a failure.' [2]
'I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.' [1]
'I did not see it with my own eyes.' [2]
'It does take a village to raise a child.' [1]
'It takes a family to raise a child.' [2]
'I'm a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering.' [1]
'I changed my position.' [2]
Word at my ofice today was Romney lost the young women's vote with his "back to the fifties" comments about women needing to get home to cook dinner. "Husbands need to get home to cook dinner too!" one young wife told me today. She was angry Romney didn't get that women sometimes get paid less for doing the same job men do.
Bob-2711464
what has Romney done?
make "his" state of Mass rank on the bottom of the job creation list? Raise fees on every single resident of Mass from drivers' licenses to marriage licenses to fees on the blind?
"Fix" the Olympics by taking a handout from the taxpayers?
Made millions despite forcing companies to file for bankruptcy and/or taking funds from taxpayers for their pension plans?
Shut down factories and strip the workers of their pensions?
WE all know Romney was successful at making money. No question about it because his bank account in Cayman Island proves it. We also know that Romney was great at one thing he said he loved to do: firing people.
I beg to differ with Domenico's assertion that women were turned off by the aggressive tone of the debate.
NO WAY!! I for one loved watching President Obama send that lying, pandering bully slinking away with his tail between his legs!
And I can't wait until next Monday night when he does it again.
bayllie - I come out with facts & you respond with made-up crap. I've read many of your posts that were worded well. This one AIN'T...
Point was / is Obama did nothing extra ordinary. The path was laid out for him by GWB & he took it. BHO now takes credit for following the Bush plan... Hmmm...
Also - Your point above about respect... In a debate, all things are made equal. There were 2 candidates on that stage, both attempting to secure the office of the Presidency. Romney did no wrong when the other candidate tried to cut him off in the middle of his remarks.
kaybeetoys
yes, Romney tried to be a bully, a very disrespectful bully. I still cannot believe that Romney spoke to the President by TELLING him "you will get your turn."
I give the President credit for holding his cool. I wanted to mentally "slap" Romney at that point. But the good news is that the President, while presidential and respectful, put Romney in his place.
Does anyone know if Romney's "binders of women" is something like the Russian mail bride catalogs????
AH yes, the eternal hypocrite!
Did you require that level of detail from candidate Obama in 2008 or was "yes we can" and "hope and change" enough for you?
And if you did require that level of detail... did you get it?
AND how did it work out for you? Did Obama deliver on all of those 2008 plans?
Ah... I got it... you didn't even ask for that detail did you? You voted simply on the color of his skin didn't you?
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Gotta love Republican revisionist history on this one. Candidate Obama campaigned on getting us out of Iraq. Bush and his merry band of neocons cried and moaned that you "can't set deadlines or time lines." Obama wins the election and in Bush's last month of office, he signs a deal with the Iraqis along the same terms Candidate Obama so consistently outlined. Now they try to give Bush all the credit, just like Willard tried to take credit for the auto bailout last night!
concernedone
I know you have to deny deny deny otherwise Romney would never be your candidate. How else could you possibly excuse a guy that keeps flip flopping on every issue? And it's all on video.
But here is my "made up crap"
at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire, a crowd member asked McCain about a Bush statement that troops could stay in Iraq for 50 years. "Maybe 100," McCain replied
would a video of him saying it be satisfying to you???????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM
Yes I remember those slap downs. I believe it went something like "Candy.......Candy......ummmmm........Let's move on."
Man what a bitch slap that was.
All I know is that Obama LIED last night, and Candy Crowley helped him do it.
He did not call the Libyan attack "an act of terrorism" in his Rose Garden speech the day after it happened.
But rather, he spoke about "acts of terror"generically.
He also spoke about putting-down other people's religions, which is what he and the administration said the attack was all about for a period of two weeks after it happened. They said it was a spontaneous response to an anti islamic video.
Oh, and just so that he, and his ObamaPHILES don't get away with LYING about this any further....HERE is a full transcript of his rose garden speech the day after the attack occurred. Please note that he NEVER refers to the Benghazi attack specifically as an act of terrorism, and please note that he DOES talk about putting down other people's religions.
The more you know about Obama, the more you know he is a LIAR!
DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!
And why wouldn't you? Candy Crowley is as liberal as they come.
But I'll admit that she did a great job of giving Obummer all the time he wanted, cutting off Romney in mid-sentence, and playing adhoc fact checker... (although her 'facts' were incorrect and she publicly admitted so AFTER the debate.)
Yeah... she did a GREAT job as 'Moderator'!
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come one Sick the answer to all of that is yes. In fact I expect the 'he was the most vetted President/Canidate in history' line. No Seeking demands independent thought and equates voting Democrat as High Intelligence. its just your an idiot and misinformed rethuglican. at least thats roughly what a Progressive would say.
I think Obama should sue Romney for going after Big Bird, in fact Obama can use some migratory bird act or some endagered species crap.
you know, the important issues facing the country
concernedone
love the hypocrisy of the righties. Where did I claim that it wasn't Bush's deadline? It was but what you fail to understand is that Obama had a choice like McCain. MCain wanted to keep the troops in Iraq longer - we are not talking a year or 2 longer. We are talking 100 YEARS LONGER.
And as he said he would end the war in Iraq, he didn't, didn't he?
BTW, since you are so generous at giving credit here, Bush also layed out another path for Obama: path of fincancial meltdown and credit crisis. Make sure you give credit where credit is due.
I Like America, now I realize that posters like you are conservatively impaired, and can never fully comprehend words spoken unless they get the Cliff Notes from the right-wing talkers.
On 9/12/2012President Obama spoke in the Rose Garden and said these words: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done..."
First, in that 9/12/12 statement President Obama said "we mourn four more Americans", what part of the reality that those deaths occurred in Benghazi and that President Obama was talking about Benghazi do you conservatives not grasp?
Second, why is it that conservatives seem more concerned with who said what and when, more interested in politicizing this tragedy, more concerned with making it a campaign issue, more caught up in blaming President Obama than they are concerned about tragic death of Ambassador Stevens and three other brave Americans, and how best to prevent it in the future?
Third, the Benghazi attack occurred in the midst of numerous violent, regional protests, which were spreading beyond Egypt, over the anti-Muslim film. Why is it conservatives dismiss the seriousness of the protests; why is it that conservatives ignore those facts and instead engage in some warped discussion of semantics?
Fourth, while conservatives engage in a discussion of semantics, argue who said what when, and politicize the deaths to garner votes, the White House has special ops on alert so they are ready to act when our intelligence tracks down the al-Qaeda-linked group that murdered the four Americans.
Seriously, such idiotic comments from conservative posters, Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and all the other conspiracy theory naybobs proves once again that republicans are a bunch of nit-picking, whiners with no real sense of what is and what is not important. There is also a ring of desperation in every word they speak, write, and a hollowness in their argument over who said what and when. What is important is to investigate and determine what went wrong, and then implement a plan to prevent such "acts of terror" in the future.
WRONG. SOFA Iraq. try google instead of lies.
ZMan2012
hey brainiac, did you even watch the debate or are you getting your info from Fox News? I'll even high light the part of the transcript for you:
ROMNEY: I — I think interesting the president just said something which — which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.
OBAMA: That’s what I said.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.
It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It — it — it — he did in fact, sir. So let me — let me call it an act of terror…
OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
CROWLEY: He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
full transcript:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/16/full-transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate/
ZMan2012
forgot to add. "Act of terror" by definition is short of:
act of terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of
violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or
religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or
coercion or instilling fear.
Keep denying Romney's total failure at trying to talk about things he has no clue about.
except i notice today the liberals are frantically trying to 'defend' Obama (its about time you do). so when did youtube become an act of terror?
Hey Brainiac!
Did you even read the transcript of Obama's speech in the Rose Garden? Actually... all he said was...
He did NOT say THIS act of terror... or YESTERDAY'S act of terror... (terms that would seem to link this specific event to an act of terror...)
NO. He said NO ACTS OF TERROR (note acts is plural).
No. Obama was NOT speaking of the specific Benghazi attack as an act of terror. He was speaking in generalities as he ALWAYS does.
He believes it gives him an out to speak in such a way... but all it really does is expose him for the manipulative liar that he really is.
Seems to me that you are just another kool-aid drinker.
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concernedone
except the protocol
when you address the president, you address him as Mr. President or President LastName- regardless of who he is or whether you like him. He's still the President of the United States of America. You never address him as YOU. He is not your buddy.
I totally agree, bayllie. Romney's demeanor bordered on desperation as he struggled to wrest control away from the moderator. He has no respect for the POTUS or for the office, and no respect for the debate process. Nevermind, the closest Mittens is getting to the White House is a public bus tour.
The President handled Romney deftly without once resorting to sinking down to his level. Schoolyard bullies can't hold a candle to our POTUS.
For the final debate, I suggest they fit Mittens with an electric shock collar and deliver him a good jolt when he steps out of line.
I'm not kidding.
BTW...
Did anyone else catch Obama's subtle messiah reference last night?
When he was telling the story of visiting the boy who was, how did he put it... "shot in the head" in Colorado - He said... he sat there and prayed with the boy's mother... and then viola' the boy was cured... good as new!
Sounds like a 'laying on of hands' to cure the lepers doesn't it?
Man... we are SOOOO lucky to have him on 'our side'... (ergh uhgh... sorry i just gagged!)
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HAHAH!!!! this from the lunatics that did NOTHING BUT DISRESPECT Pres. GW Bush.
What hypocrites and liars you people are!
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The answer is simple, Jody. You know why, but let me point it out for the clueless:
The GOP playbook orders that an opponent be attacked for his strengths.
Karl Rove has been advising the neo-cons to attack Obama on national security precisely because Obama has done so well at it. Does anyone remember a tall bearded guy named bin Laden? (shhh...they want us to forget about him...)
Romney is a dismal failure at security and foreign policy matters. It's a diversion away from reality...the game the GOP propagandists like to play.
The GOP doesn't care about the citizens of this country, or the future of the country. They want one thing: power. They will say and do anything to get their power back.
We have to stop them.
Obama WON! So says the liberal media outlets!
If this is such a wonderful thing, why has the Gallup Poll have Myth up over Obama more than prior to the second debate?
Did they oversample Republicans by 1000%? Or maybe the American people saw more from Myth than the liberals saw from Obama.
SickOfTheBickering
that's your big rebuttal? Romney's claim was not THIS or YESTERDAYS act of terror. Romney's claim was that Obama blamed it on the video during that specific speech which he did not.
Romney spoke without having facts and failed. Get over it.
how say ye? Not Liberals.
SickOfTheBickering
OMG, you do have a hard time understanding what CONTEXT means.
We are not talking about some site where average joe posts. We are talking about a formal presidential debate between two people, one of them being the President of the United States of America, and all this happening in front of the ENTIRE WORLD!
OMG, you have a hard time with reading comprehension don't you!
No one said that Romney mentioned the words THIS or YESTERDAY's. That was MY way of demonstrating how Obummer MIGHT have linked the Benghazi attack to terrorism if he were actually doing his job.
Romney's point was that Obummer did not make that SPECIFIC link in his Rose Garden speech and that it took 14 days of Obummer's office blaming the attack on a video before they admitted it was an Al Qaeda attack.
Perhaps if you read more S L O W L Y you could grip the point of the post.
Just trying to help!
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well SOTB there is 30 seconds you'll never get back. Libs, stealing your life away, one inane post at a time.
SickOfTheBickering
thanks for admitting that you are trying to put your own spin on something that has been already called a Romney fail by those who actually know what they are talking about.
YOUR way of demontrating means sh*t. You have no credibility to demonstrate anything. Get over yourself!
Hey, GWB speculated about WMD and guess what it did. It cost thousands of American lives.
Thanks for playing.
I agree with bayllie, I'm sure glad you told that idiot SOTB. SOTB is putting his own little stupid spin on what the president said. Act of terror doesn't mean no difference than saying terrorist attack. I mean how stupid can people like SOTB actual be. I know what it is, that person hate obama so much that it don't matter what the president says they'll find some how to SPIN it..
Jason797
at least he is admitting that he is putting HIS own spin on it which is shocking. But what's even more shocking is admitting that he is putting his own spin on it AND expecting others to take it as a FACT.
bayllie...
It was not my 'SPIN'... just my attempt to imagine how the president (or anyone) would actually link the event to an act of terrorism. Don't you think that IF he has said "YESTERDAY's act of terrorism" that there would be no doubt that he intended to call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism? I
I mean... for someone that is supposed to be such a great orator you would think that he would understand that.
No... he knew EXACTLY what he was saying when he said "No actS of terrorism..."
However, I would like to thank you for demonstrating that I was correct in my assessment of your reading comprehension skills. ;-)
But hey... the anger looks good on you!
nuff said!
I actually enjoyed seeing the candidates getting in each other's space.
Good job Mitt. You battled to a tie. That makes you 1-0-1. Obama is 0-1-1. Someone is surging and someone is loosing...
^^and then there are those who live in a perpetual state of delusion.
Dan - you have to realize that concernedone shares part of the same moniker as Concern. It must be the name - all who use it are delusional - or just plain stupid!
Obama/Biden 2012
more 'logic' from seeking.
Lets see this logic voting D equates to MENSA
Voting R equates to Neanderthal.
Gee I think Seeking was captain of the Debate team. with Logic like that, win every time.
Mr. Spock would never have been a liberal HAHAHA
Awwwww! Name calling! Isn't that cute!
Way to promote the party, and your future opinions!
BTW - A lot of things "concern" me... The way the Tea Party has such support from a LARGE segment of society... The way one politician after another twists the Constitution to force it to fit their ideology... The way the left spins everything negatively that the right proposes - thus dividing this nation like NEVER before... The way this government continually robs-Peter-to-pay-Paul to fund pet projects... The way Romney had to act timidly last night when he DARED say something like, 'what is wrong with having a child brought up by 2 parents. What is wrong with suggesting people get married before having children'. More concerning is why he had to say it under his breath so as not to offend someone. Logic is fleeing this nation in a hurry - THAT is CONCERNING!
Caesar, Spock definitely would have been a Democrat. It's logical. "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few."
OMG! Now I've seen a lot of really stupid posts but this ...
TIMID Mitt??????? That's a new one! More like I wanna force my beliefs on you Mitt and screw ya if you don't like it.
Obama/Biden 2012
Layton---wasn't it odd that Mitt made those comments to a question about gun control? It was as if he had "family values" comments he needed to check off his list and figured he'd get them over with. Seems to me it was pandering to the NRA crowd but doesn't he have their votes sewn up already?
Steeler Fan - I found it odd that when the moderator, Candy Crowley, tried to get Obama back on the subject of "guns" Obama just blew her off and went into something about hiring teachers. What did hiring teachers, which is the responsibility of States and local communities not the Federal Government, have to do with the subject of "guns"?
Seems to me Obama was pandering to his left wing base more than to the undecided voters.
@concernedone; The way I see it, Romney is 2 -0.
Because, Obama was caught in a huge LIE last night.
He did NOT refer to the Benghazi attack as an act of terrorism the day after it happened, as he said he did.
Instead, he spoke generically about "acts of terrorism," and the transcript that he challenged everyone to go look at proves it!
This should be a HUGE moment in this campaign, because Obama is caught in an undeniable LIE.
It's one thing to accuse a candidate of lying, its another thing to read a transcript that he challenged you to read, and discover that he was LYING!
That's exactly what happened last night!
DEMOCRATS FOE ROMNEY 2012!!!!!
key word Logic, not circular libby logic, the fallacy.
thats right, so why do Libs fight for the small grievence groups they neatly place people into?
Caesar Augustus: maybe the Democrats take seriously their real oath of office, "...To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States..." particularly the right of people to assemble and seek redress of grievances from their governement,
instead of an oath to make a political party or Grover Norquist first.
dirp,
Where do you get this idea that Dems are the protectors of the Constitution?
Your own president believes this is a living document that requires change! He said it in his books and on numerous talks with his special interest groups.
Look at his administrations record and see how he has circumvented this great document.
same liberals that limit personal choice? Like Flammin hot cheetoes and 'Large' sugary drinks. smoking, guns etc. Nah Dirp has one too many consonants in his moniker.
Defenders of the constitution and all its amendments. except the ones that infringe on liberalism
Caesar: I happen to agree with you on the "LARGE" (aren't they really jumbo or xtra large ?) sugary drinks. The NYC health department was rather stupid.
I don't remember the exact quotation, or who said it, but it went something like "You may have all of the rights and liberty you want, however those end when they interfere with my rights and liberty."
That would seem to apply to the situations involving the smoking in confined public areas and the sale/use of assault weapons (which pose a great threat to the public peace.)
As to Flamin Hot Cheetos, no one has banned them, some school boards have just chosen to not sell them. You can call that a ban or attack on freedom, I call it the school not supporting the sale of junk food. I fully support your right to buy them and consume as much of them as you want. I don't think are schools should be in the business of supporting the sale of empty calories.
1funnygirl: EVERY Republican has signed a sworn oath to Grover Norquist and holds THAT oath above their oath of office. THAT is the ultimate special interest group, representing the interests of ALEC, the Koch brother, Carl Rove's groups and others. THAT is the real circumvention of the Constitution, the corporate moneyed interests influencing CONGRESS.
America has now met the many MYTH Romneys . Now America knows they can get their Asses Kicked (thumbs up). Yes Indeed, our President brought them all out. No wonder Queen Anne said she was worried about MYTH'S mental health.
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Obama/Biden 2012
since you like to degrade romneys wife, at least she has been proud of america her whole life unlike current first lady who preaches eat well as she scarfs down the ice cream. and myths how about bozos lies you know the ones about libya or how good the economy is doing
I loved the way Obama beat Romney like a rented mule on the Libya question. I found it absolutely sickening how Romney and the Republicans were actually gleeful that Americans serving their country were killed overseas just so they could score cheap political points. Ambassador Steven's father said the politicizing of his son's death was horrible and I agree.
Willard even went so far as to tell a story about how he got lost going to a party and met one of the Navy Seals that died. While meeting that Seal probably is as close as Willard or anyone in his extended family has come to actually serving in the military, the Seal's mom called Willard out on politicizing her son's death and friends of the Seal pointed out how lame Willard was in introducing himself four times to him. There is no gutter low enough for Willard to crawl in if he thinks he can score a political gotcha on the President.
Bev,
if your guy did such a great job, how is it that MYTH gained points over him in the polls? Not the liberal media after-debate polls, but the national ones?
Second debate, second MYTH bump thanks to Obama.
New energy obama - same old talking points from his continual campaign!
Sadly, we've come to expect Romney to mislead so no one is surprised by this. But more importantly, the question put to the President and Mr. Romney was about equal pay for equal work.
The President answered it because, after all, he signed the Ledbetter Act, while Romney talked about "binders of women". He opposed the Act and was too cowardly to tell the questioner that or to explain his opposition to the concept of equal pay for equal work. The President clearly got the best of this exchange and the debate overall.
I suspect that the Romney camp rehearsed this response. THey had to figure a question about the Lily Ledbetter Act was coming and so this was their way of addressing it without endorsing fair pay. Too bad they didn't do their homework about the "binders full of women" being someone else's ideas and too bad Mitt went off script, telling us it was a good thing he let his female staff go home early to cook dinner. I wonder if he gave them pearl necklaces like June Cleaver used to wear.
It couldn't have ended better for the President last night...
...and Mr. Romney starts talking about wanting to help 100% of Americans as if that 47% comment was some kind of misconception???
He made the statement about 47%. He did...and nobody made him say it...and Conservatives cheered him on....and now he wants t walk away from his own remarks.
He said it...and he got caught.
My father taught me that CHARACTER is defined as who you are and what you do when you think nobody's watching. Behind closed doors, when he thought nobody else was watching, Mr. Romney told a meeting of his donors that 47% of this nation would never take responsibility for themselves and wanted to think they were victims.
That's not a misconception. That's what you said.
...and thank you, President Obama, for seizing on the moment and calling Mr. Romney out for what he said.
Best part...no opportunity for a rebuttal.
Da Noid..
We are all a-Noid by Mitt.
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U R right.
Yeah speaking of behind closed doors, what the heck do you think Obama meant when he told Russian PM, Dimitri Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility"
If you are 100% sure Obama is the right choice, then there's nothing to fear about checking a youtube video, is there?
Youtube ..... /watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE
In other words, I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! C'mon Obama, we're not dumb, and it's still about jobs, your record doesn't support jobs growth. You are done, as you said in February 2009.
We need jobs growth and Mitt is not only the guy to do it, he truly is a good man despite the paid attack media on the far-leaning-biased-left. Don't believe me? Here's the proof and this is all real and verifiable.
Youtube ........ look up "Romney the search". Shows his true character and that he does care about 100% of Americans. It's up to you, you can believe what you want, but the facts are all there.
Romney/Ryan 2012
Now we all see that Obama wants flexibility from 100% of the people.
Show me your Binders Mitt!
I'll bet Mitt keeps copies of his tax returns (the ones he won't show us) in binders, too.
Mockingbyrd - NO! NO! NO! I want to see NOTHING of Mitt's - especially his BINDERS!
Obama/Biden 2012
This mother @!$%#er in his entire life had not met any women qualified to fill a cabinet in MA until they brought in some binders full of them?
I laughed like I was Joe Biden when he uttered that!
When Joe Biden was combative during the VP debates, the Fox spin machine had enough gall to suggest he was drunk or suffering from dementia. Will they make the same claims about Mittens? Since Mormons don't drink, we can rule that out. Guess that only leaves dementia. Don't worry Mittens, pre-existing conditions are covered under Obamacare, although there is no known cure for being a chronic @!$%#. Sorry.
Are you really comparing Biden's insane behavior to Romney's? Paaaalllease!
VP Biden doesn't drink either; apparently one more fact that conservatives ignore.
Women belong in Board Rooms, not Binders... that's just another example of how Mitt panders when he's not busy flip-flopping...
I did think it was kind of telling that he had to correct the pronunciation of the name of the young woman who asked about Immigration... so nice of him to make sure he gets it right before he disenfranchises her.
The most important flip-flop of the evening had to be on contraception... I am pretty sure I wasn't the only one who witnessed that 180... oh sure, he's all for contraception, except for his choice of running mate. That's a sticky wicket for the Romney/Ryan ticket. His running mate is such a stringent Catholic, he couldn't possibly endorse Romney's latest position... but like the weather in Hawaii... if you don't' like it, wait ten minutes...
Abbie - Mitt broke the good-old-boy trend and sought out women for cabinet positions. He should get an award for this!!!!!!!!!!!
For the life of me, I can't understand how this can be spun negatively...???
BTW... Did you notice when the moderator said to BHO, "The next question is from Kerry _." (not sure of the last name)... Obama looked straight at a woman and smiled and said "Hi Kerry". Immediately a big dude stood up behind the lady and corrected BHO saying HIS name was Kerry...
Focus on what you want & let the factual details slide by... Wasn't this a bit sexist? If it happened to Romney is would be...
*waves to Abbie*
Good to see ya!
Great comment!
Mitty is not for women achieving anything. He was against the Equal Pay Act.
Please, you want contraception it cost $10 dig in your welfare and get it dont make me pay for it
Did he?
OilShark, do you currently have health care coverage through a private insurer? If you answer "yes" then you are already paying for someone elses contraceptives.
Mitt stuck by his wife while she had a serious bout with breast cancer, and he constantly reminded her that what she did was the real work (raising their kids) and he just supported her.
He obviously supports women, it's all there to see for those who will see it. But those who will not are always going to be limited only to what they want to see. If you go through life that way, how do you learn anything?
Covering one eye does not make your vision better, it removes the depth of your perception.
Romney/Ryan 2012
De Noid - Thank you for the excerpt. That is how Romney said they found the eligible women who had NOT applied for his cabinet. Your point verifies that this was how they accomplished elevating women to those cabinet positions!
The point was there were qualified females available, but none had sought out these positions. Instead of Romney choosing from the application pile, he sought out and found a great source of information on qualified women.
It is SO hard to argue with his administration being ranked #1 in the USA for gender equity. And since there is nothing to grasp at, folks spin and make stuff up.
Also in 8.6... Separation of church and state... If my belief system is such that I don't agree with contraception, or I am theologically opposed to killing the unborn, why should I be forced to pay for it?
I recall discussing various alternatives with our company insurance agent the last time we obtained a new health insurance policy. A couple of the things that each and every policy had in it was provisions for ED, prostate exams, gynecological exams and maternity coverage. All of the policies had these provisions, even the ones offered to groups of nuns, groups of people over the age of 60, and groups of monks (the agent had both groups in his client lists.)
Insurance, by its very nature, takes the cost of various items and spreads them over all of the policy holders. All of the policy holders will not use all of the available items. Most will not use any part of the available services in a year.
Contraceptive medication is a medical decision made by a woman and her doctor. The ability to receive a particular prescribed medication should not be made by anyone except the doctor and his patient. The ACA takes all social issues associated with this particular medicine out of the arena.
Ann Romney had a lumpectomy. No chemo, no radiation. She has been cancer free ever since. I know women who have had double mastectomies and lost all their hair from the chemo, and they don't whine about having had breast cancer like Ann Romney does. She's great at playing the martyr.
Romney supports his wife and that translates to support for women in general? Not in my book, honey.
““My — my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds
to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the
deficit.” MITTLIE
As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romney’s plan can’t both exempt
middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. “He’s
promised all these things and he can’t do them all. In order for him
to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, he’d
have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people
making less than $200,000 a year,” the Center found.”
I wish Mitt could explain to me why he would cut taxes and eliminate loopholes to keep the revenue the same. Why do it then?
And he still doesn't seem to get how little money some people in this country get by on. He wants to give everyone a "bucket" for their deductions. He thinks $25,000 is a good number. Does he not realize that people earning less than $25,000 would then pay no taxes. But doesn't he think those people are freeloaders?
your an idiot he said their percentage of tax burden would remain same not the dollar amount. the problem with you free loaders is you dont realize with a good economy more tax rev comes in even with lower tax rates. Mitt is trying to encourage people to invest so when they retire they dont have to depend on govt.
Steeler Fan - What is Obama's plan to revise the tax codes, he doesn't have one except to raise taxes. Last night Obama lied again about how many and how much of tax reductions he has created.
OllShark1: If the Republican plan is to lower the RATES, but not lower the amount of taxes each person pays, what is the point of lowering the rates ?
It seems to me to be an exercise in futility if the plan ends up doing nothing.
Unless there is just no way that tax rates can be reduced by 20%, yet the total revenue each person pays stays the same because there are not enough deductions to be removed to cover the 20% tax cut.
Two major national presidential polls are out today. Several statewide polls are also out as well. In the Gallup presidential tracking poll Mitt Romney had a 6% lead among likely voters and a 2% lead among registered voters. When likely voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 45% compared to 51% for Mitt Romney. When registered voters were included in the Gallup poll President Obama was at 46% compared to 48% for Mitt Romney. Third party candidates combined with undecided voters were at 4% among likely voters and increased to 6% when registered voters were included in the presidential poll. Gallup released their presidential tracking poll at 1 p.m. ET, Wednesday, October 17, 2012.
Rasmussen Reports presidential tracking poll had Mitt Romney with a 1% lead nationally. President Obama was at 48% compared to 49% for Romney. Third party candidates were at 1% and undecided voters were at 2% nationally. Rasmussen Reports released their presidential tracking poll this morning, October 17, 2012.
Bubble foke are just hard to reach. They got all that stuff just twirling around in they're heads...ha ha ha ha
DRAGON - The "winds of change" are here!........20 Days and counting..........
I couldn't believe the Obama lies last night, truly amazing. For him to sit there and say he called it a "terrorist act" was incredible. And then the moderator to bail him out, truly pathetic. The other huge lie was the whole planned parenthood giving mammograms to millions of woman. Seriously...planned parenthood doesn't do mammograms, they do referrals. Obama won on the stupid questions being asked, like the question the young lady asked about equal pay for woman...talk about a softball question.
And for you to repeat the right wing lies? Appalling!
JFK-2112 - The President did mispeak about mammograms. Planned Parenthood does many healthcare screenings for women but refers them for mammograms.
The President won all questions that required significant answers. As usual, Romney said nothing except I've done this before and can do it again. He lied and told no facts.
Obama/Biden 2012
Not to women. As far as the Libya question, you can parse whether an "act of terror" is somehow different from a terrorist act, but the transcripts and video of his Rose Garden speech show that he said "act of terror". Have your wonderboy get his facts straight next time he makes an accusation.
In response to the consulate attack, the president said, "The United States is a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the Libya attack was "spontaneous" and started with the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, Egypt, over an anti-Islamic film.
The staff of the Cairo embassy, … condemned the film and the "continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."
Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers said Monday the question now is whether the Obama administration lied, or is clueless. She acknowledged neither is a great scenario.
I go with the "Obama is clueless" theory.
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED,
Such as? Will you please elaborate? Anyone can call another a liar, and I see it as commonly as every other comment. If you want your comment to be different, you have to elaborate on your position. Simply saying, "right wing lies" means nothing to anyone except those who are already decidedly left-leaning.
So if you want to make friends based on common ground, I'm sure Fiesty will love you. If you really want to change something, use specifics.
Good luck,
I LOVE AMERICA and I'm voting for it!!!
Romney/Ryan 2012
Again and again courts and lawmakers have affirmed the right of politicians to lie. Citizens who applaud Obama's lies to declare he “won”, have made lying a necessity.
Given the political advantage of telling lies to a naïve public, don't expect any politician to stop lying! The candidate that tells only the truth, will lose. This will remain true either until our lawmakers stop treating themselves like a privileged elite ruling class, or lying produces a political disadvantage. That is to say, we better just get used to it and start finding the truth for ourselves.
Kannin,
although I disagree with your tone, the message is true. WE must determine what is true or not, because being spoonfed "truth" by media is a very bad idea.
there are two quotes which come to mind:
"An ignorant electorate is a politicians best friend"
"The price of democracy is constant vigilance"
The reality is the RWNJ pundits are upset because they were starting to convince their mindless minions that because the President did not immediately jump up and call the attack in Libya a terrorist attack before the attack was even over, the President must be covering something up. What's amazing is that is was Rahm Emmanuel who said, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste."
The problem for Mitt Romney and the Republicans is that they attempted to use the Benghazi situation purely for political gain, rather than to improve the country. THAT is the difference that the country is seeing between the two parties.
The libs were so desperate, even an Obama tie will be heralded as the Second Coming of the Big O.
Nothing happened last night to change the momentum. O's going down.
commonamerican1
The libs were so desperate, even an Obama tie will be heralded as the Second Coming of the Big O.
Nothing happened last night to change the momentum. O's going down
commonamerican1
Well, President Obama is our 1st Black President since the inception of our country. That is momentous given the racial history of this country.
I would relish an Obama tie.
For the record, before you go call me a racist , I voted for him not because of his color; but because of his compassion, commitment, hard work, and brilliance.
I would never vote for a whacked out Black like Justice Clarence Thomas or Florida Rep Allen West.
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Obama/Biden 2012
Bev, I'll admit I'm not sure what you're really saying here by noting race. I too celebrated America when Obama was elected, although I didn't vote for him. And now, I'll celebrate for America when he's voted out of office. His skin color has nothing to do with anything. His policies are what I'm voting against.
Loved the focus group on MSNBC last night, asking independent voters who they would vote for and they said "Romney". Now that @!$%# was funny... Obama has no record to run on thats why by a 2 to 1 margin voters said Romney won on the economy. Guess what folks... "Its the Economy Stupid".
JFK - Drunk were you? Independents polled said they are moving to Obama. You can't just say things and think people will believe your lies or you're just like Romney!
Obama/Biden 2012
undecided voters on all channels looked and sounded like morons. I don't if any debate can help em', wwhether they leaned Romney or Obama.
considering the current dynamic, these are the definitions -
Undecided - don't give @!$%# and too lazy to make up my own mind
Independent - former republican but too embarassed by Romney/Ryan ticket to declare outright support. Not sure its worth the effort to vote for such a turdsicle. Wishing for Romney to be struck dead so they could have a Ryan/Huckabee ticket.
You have to wonder how anyone can still be undecided at this point in the game!
They're either dumber than dirt or they enjoy the attention heaped upon them!
Fair and MOST ACCURATE description of you, Feisty, EVER. DYE those black , sorry, GRAY, roots.
LOL! While I usually don't agree with Feisty, I have to agree, this hit the nail on the head.
"You have to wonder how anyone can still be undecided at this point in the game!
They're either dumber than dirt or they enjoy the attention heaped upon them!"
.....proceed Mr. Govenor (with your bull@!$%#)
Romney was ambushed by a highly-biased moderator, and an "uncommitted" audience who cheered when the moderator endorsed an Obama lie (she later had to admit that "Romney Was Actually Right On Libya"). A CNN/ORC International nationwide poll of debate-watchers taken right after the debate showed 46% thought Obama had won; 39% thought Romney had won. As yet there have been no modifications posted to those statistics.
I would find it surprising if none of the respondents to the poll would want to change their opinion when the Obama lies and moderator bias are exposed.
Hmm...a couple of weeks ago when we mentioned Jim Lehrer's horrific performance as moderator weren't our comments dismissed as excuses?
The best question was the individual telling the President he voted for him last year and asked why he should vote for him this time around. Obama couldn't answer the question...classic!
JFK - and that individual was one of the first to rush to shake the President's hand and talk with him after the debate! Classic!
Obama/Biden 2012
However, when CNN disected the KEY Issues, Romney kicked Obambams azz back to Air Force One....Economy and Ability to Lead Country....Romney by a Landslide. Obama??? Won Most Likeable by a very small margin and then promptly awarded the Pinocchio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Award for his BLATANT LIES!!!! Oh, and CBS had Romney Winning 70-30% on Economy. OK. Obama LOST!!!!
Moderate: are you talking about the CNN poll that, even they admit, had about 8% more Republicans AND 8% fewer Democrats than the national population ?
That's almost like taking a poll of FOX viewers and asking them if humans contribute to the changing climate and getting a resounding NO.
As soon as CNN revealed the inherent bias in the polling, I stopped watching CNN. The poll was useless as it does not reflect the nation.
Two cold fish (Called "alpha-dogs!)...who treated each other with little respect...but we will elect one the President. All eyes will be on the third debate, moderated by Steve Smoger (look it up) and rescheduled to be held in "Thunderdome"...
The sliver of the electorate (in half a dozen "swing" states) who sway from one side to the other, based on the current day's news cycle, like "amber waves of grain" are still uncertain. They will wait for the inevitable "rubber" match, as will we all.
So both sides can spin like Sarah Jessica's character in "L.A. Story" until the final head to head battle which will be (spoiler alert!) a "draw"...
(A draw is when red media declares R the winner and blue media picks O)
The undead, er undecided will still be vacillating through Halloween...
November 7th can't get here soon enough...although I have a feeling that no matter who wins this nonsense won't stop. It didn't stop after 2008. Let's hope one those "end of the world" predictions are correct if (pick your candidate) wins. i don't know if i can stomache another election cycle filled with this much stupidity.
Thanks for your posts Dangerfield, they always seem to add levity to it all. :)
"Two go in, one comes out !!! "
You have to wonder how anyone can still be undecided in any of the "toss up" states. Both parties have inundated the airwaves with advertising. The positions of both the President and Romney have been made fairly clear over the last two years. While Mr. Romney has lately been trying to redefine his position, only those who are not paying attention have no clue at this point.
Well, hopefully the undecided will take their brains off the shelves and vote for the President. The alternative is to remain brain dead and join the GOP.
I've watched both presidential debates.
Last night Romeny came off looking like Richard Noggin.
The next few days of people seeing him ask the question repeatedly will show them just what kind of guy Mitt is. I mean really...Have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..sheesh, what a dipstick.
pension? who has those anymore, certainly not the middle-class. We just have to pray that the employer has a 401k plan and that the stock market doesn't take dump again, and hopefully that will be enough to supplement the Social Security that I have PAID INTO my whole life, not some voucher plan.
Don't want to pay my Social Security? Fine, give me my money back, all of it, with interest.
And Obama came off as???...well, he came off as Obama......LIES and All. How typical of this fraud prez.
If I had scammed the tax system by putting away $100 million in an IRA at a time when the maximum deduction was 30,000, I'd probably be looking at that pension every day like Mitt does. He doesn't seem to get that the President is well off already and will likely be more well-off after he leaves office in 2016 and isn't focused on his pension. The President is focused on helping his fellow citizens and leading our country.
FrankH-1860605,
"Last night Romeny came off looking like Richard Noggin.
The next few days of people seeing him ask the question repeatedly will show them just what kind of guy Mitt is. I mean really...Have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..have you looked at your pension..sheesh, what a dipstick."
Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney was responding to Obama's accusation that Romney's retirement investments were in China. Romney's point was that he does not oversee his retirement investments and where they go, that job is deligated to another, and Obama is doing the exact same thing because that's what you do with your retirements when you're too busy running for President among other things.
Romney's point was that Obama was being hypocritical, not that Romney was saying he was richer. How childish, and stupid. He built a business from the ground up, went to college, raised a family, cared for his wife with cancer and has only ever been married to one woman. If you really believe that he was just showing off his wealth it is not because that assessment makes sense, it is because you hate him. Hate is stupid, it's worse than being drunk and like being drunk, most don't even know when they're intoxicated with it.
Your comment carries no value, substance, meaning, or credibility because you obviously hate the opponent. Obama doesn't hate him, he opposes him. That is what intelligent people do. Get smart please.
Romney/Ryan 2012!!!
Mitt Romney, has the experience and a intense drive to bring this
country back to greatness, that impresses me, he does understand that
policies need to be agreed upon systematically not hasty decisions and
not use the rush to assume approach,he also has the direct approach
likeability factor,,, and Barrack Obama , definitley has the likeability
factor and a great drive to accomplish, but i believe that
admininstration that the president has appointed lacks the experience needed to bring forward the policies that can turn this country back to greatness, i was
all about Obama in 2008. MUCH !different story in 2012.
I don't agree. The type of policies Romney favors - tax cuts and deregulation, were tried during Bush's two terms, wages for the middleclass went down, and we ended up in a Great Recession..
More recently, in two years of having a majority Republican state government, Maine is the only New England state not to see an improvement in employment, and revenues are down 25 million dollars from our state tax cuts. Tea party policies have not worked in my state - health insurance premiums for rural customers rose, for example, after "reform" was passed to let companies charge more according to where in the state you live. Ironically, premiums are down in the "blue" areas, the bigger towns.
Obozo forgot to mention that liitle item regardingthe disparity between the disma Compensation comparisons of Women on his staff to Men on his Staff....Women are getting "stiffed" . Or the fact that 500,000+ Women who have LOST THEIR JOBS under Obozo. And, BTW, for those loonie Libs that audaciously THINK Obama won anything last night....yep, he won "most likeable" but by a much narrower margin than you wish. "Most Likeable", Hmmmmmmm......what say we dig up Elvis and Run him for Dim Prez??? Romney kicked Obozos azz on EVERY KEY ISSUE, indicating what??? AMERICANS (44%) think Obozo is OK, BUT DO NOT TRUST HIM WITHTHEIR ECONOMY OR THEIR FUTURE. Buh-Buh-Buh-Buh-Bye Grinning Cheshire Cat Barry and "Doggie Dentures" Biden.
Let the RICH gets
RICHER and the POOR gets POORER. If you like that phrase vote ROMNEY!........... It's all about not letting the
Republican party get in office. " All us Democrats must hold ground do not vote
Republican"
Sorry fun.....Dims hold nothing.....except false ideologies and wet dreams.....from their fathers.
Based on what?
Romney helped save 80% OF THE COMPANIES IN WHICH HE INVESTED!
It's so annoying to see comments regurgitate what they see on Hardball, CNN, CBS, and NBC. Get a life, get a brain, and think for yourself, unless you want a life controlled by media.
It's still about jobs and Romney has a history to prove he will do it.
Obama has a history that obviously reflects he will not create more jobs.
Romney/Ryan 2012
If Romney cut every single tax deduction for individuals and every business tax credit on the books, it still wouldn't pay for his 20% across the board tax rate cut. It does NOT add up. No matter how much business experience he thinks he has, it does not add up.
He retired retroactively and those decisions were made by someone else, remember?
If Obama TAXED the TOP 10% of the Country's Wealthiest at 100% IT WOULD NOT COVER THE NATIONAL DEBT HE HAS ATTAINED, Nor Fix HIS DEFICIT. Sit on it, Libs.
Moderate: so, reducing the taxes of the top 10% by 20% will do WHAT to the deficit ?
And Romney wants to increase defense spending even more.
Remember: taxes - expenditures = deficit.
Giving Republicans fiscal responsibility is like giving foxes responsibility for chickens.
I am so tired of hearing Mitt say" I know what it takes ". What I would like to hear are the specifics of what deductions, tax credits, loopholes he is going to change. He has avoided this question for some time. Last evening he threw out some exemption number which he probably derived by using the ROMA model. The ROMA model is an acronym for " Right Out of My A&S". He is like a Hollywood studio movie lot store front. It looks good from the front, but nothing but 2 by 4's behind the facade.
Why do you Obama slugs want details? Hell, Hussein did not give details when he ran in 08. Except for hopey and changey. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Awesome response Joe! I can see everyone here has suddenly changed their mind and are now going to vote for Romney. Job well done!
The point being missed here is that unlike Obama, Romney wants input and cooperation from the other party on exactly how things will be done. He has identified the goals and wants everyone to participate in achieving them. This is the best way to get things done.
Romney is smart enough to know that identifying the goals and exactly how they will be achieved is another way of saying my way or the highway. Obama has divided this country through his class warfare tactics. Romney is trying to bring us back together for the common good..
Romney reminds me of a sleaze ball cut
rate used car lot sales man with his smooth talk, phony smile and his fingers
crossed.......if elected maybe he will make ADULTERY LEGAL.
fun......at your house it already IS!!! Oh, sorry...you didn't know, did you??? Got any more SLEAZY comments to toss towards the NEXT POTUS, azzhole???
Feisty the Red Communist said..."No one puts Feisty in a binder." That would be correct, because she is an unemployed slug. Feisty puts hard working taxpayers in a bind because they have to pay for her miserable, pathetic life. Get a job slug.
Fisty is taking a nap.....pardon.....Fisty has slipped into a drunken stupor. Someone pick her up before she drowns in her own Liberal Puke. Better yet, let her sleep.
The debate last night was just the same things we have heard from both candidates for the past weeks and months. All they provided were soundbytes but I am not sure anyone really learned anything new from either candidate. It was just a debate of semantics and petty issues. It did not seem like either candidate answered any questions directly and just used the time to see who could use more time than the other or who could invade the other's personal space the most. I believe the next debate will be a carbon copy of this debate only based on a different topic-foreign poicy.
We learned A LOT!
We learned that there is absolutely a collusion between the media and the Left. All the way Candy HAVING THE TRANSCRIPT for the Libya rose garden comments! This was PLANNED! It was STAGED to help Obama and Obama EVEN ASKED CANDY TO READ IT!!!
We learned that even with the facts right in your face which Romney presented, and did it with REAL numbers, people like you can still be BLIND AS A BAT!
We learned that when people support a candidate based on emotions they will look past the MOST obvious - a FAILED PRESIDENCY!
We learned that Obama has his OWN definition of "Free markets"! But he can't define it besides slogans; fair, spread the wealth.. blah blah blah! Same old Marxist BS!
Holly @!$%#! It doesn't GET more contrast!
The guy in Frank's Fox News focus group nailed it - "Obama has just given us BULL@!$%# for 4 years!"
WOW! What a damn fantasy world you on the left live in!
You have an in-our-face collusion with the LEFTIST OBAMA SUPPORTER moderator...
- The out of balance interruptions and cutting Romney off (2 to 1)
- The (now retracted and admitted BS by Candy - the Obama debate bailout) LIE on Libya!
But the most glaring difference between the left and right is - the TRUTH!
The left are generally more unhinged, THEY LIE, and they lie so much they believe their own lies!
And when the left can't convince you they'll just exterminate you!
THREATS TO KILL ROMNEY EXPLODE AFTER DEBATE
and that was just from messages Karl Rove left on Mitt's answering machine