Now NDD has gone call Private Dick on us and has examined the dishes in question.

You folks are a real hoot in the afternoon.

Sadly you are very serious about this all important issue.

It's not the issue of washing dirty dishes in a soup kitchen, but how many people that needed it, did he help? WCA: same goes for you - I have been in soup kitchens, fished people out of jails and mental institutions, and put them back in. In my life I have come to find a better character in those who have helped others in need. Can I count you in that group, or are you just a bunch of hot air?

Clean? Dirty? What the hell difference does it make?

Feisty - I am waiting for his next big photo-op at the local fund raising car wash event, doing his best impression of "wax on - wax off".

TO: jim-1455434 who wrote:

"Again, more hate from American Girl ..."

If you want to see some real "hate speech" and name calling, check out "White Collar Auto" and "JoAnnaSmith1", and there are plenty other Republican comments covering the entire "Politics" section just oozing with hate speech for you to enjoy.

By the way, I couldn't care less what you think about my comments.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it!

Obama/Biden 2012

The confusion, though, hasn't stopped Democrats from trying to turn Ryan's stop into a political issue.

Actually it looks to me like its the News Media who is trying to turn this into a political issue by even writing about who did or didn't wash dishes! Really!!! Maybe the media should concentrate more on Libya which they seem to be missing in action on.

I want to say after watching the clip multiple times on different networks..those dishes were not dirty...the counter wasnt even dirty. But it really is irrelevant to me because I no that this is just all just BS pandering to the press.

That man wouldnt lower himself to hurt his manicure.

Once again the thread has gone off topic... you have allowed yourselves to be delfected into ludicrious arguments by J/asses like Ceasar and his ilk.

The point is that Antan at first said Ryan did not wash dirty dishes because he heard it from a volunteer and the next he changes his mind to "Ryan did clean dirty dishes"... What changed his mind, he wasn't there so WHO changed his mind for him? Ryan, according to the WaPo (right wing leaning paper) Ryan did not arrive until the dinner was over and EVERYTHING was cleaned. Ryan and Romney will do ANYTHING to get elected, including, faking tax plans, BS photo op moments and hiding their real agenda (dang 47%ers) from the people.

At the end of the day this BS photo-op moment is a trivial matter when compared to the Romney/Ryan TOTAL BS tax plan of cutting 20% income across board by getting rid of deductions and big bird. SIMPLE mathematics ( I don't expect Ceasar or other rom-bots to understand) illustrates that their plan is infeasable. The 6 studies R and R use as cover are written by BLOGGERS and one was written by a PAID ROMNEY campaign official. Why does the "LIBERAL" media not lambast these LYING sacks of dog doo on this IMPORTANT as HELL issue?

TO: jim-1455434 who wrote:

"The only hate speech comes from you, American Girl ..."

What do you "hate" about my posts, the part that says:

"Obama/Biden 2012"!

Who the fak cares....

I wash dirty dishes everyday and that doesn't qualify me for vice prez...

Another example of sh*t that has no relevance to the countries problems...

has everyone lost their marbles...

elaine - I want to say after watching the clip multiple times on different networks..those dishes were not dirty..

Lots of disease going around though, so you can't be too careful.

But it really is irrelevant to me because I no that this is just all just BS pandering to the press.

Imagine. So you believe the Democrats should only be allowed to do so?

Oh Snap! JAS1 .... this has got to be one of your loonier reasonings ...

Lots of disease going around though, so you can't be too careful.

Thank God Ryan is around to wipe a pot dry rather than putting it in a sanitizer!!! LOLOL!! You'd say just about anything to justify this totally staged and moronic photo op!

Obama/Biden 2012

has everyone lost their marbles...

The media certainly has.

If anyone knows about diseases it would be old Snuffy!

Poor dear has a terminal case of hoof & mouth disease...

wonder if you have the brass to go to the NBC Politics thread and say this? nah you're safe here, no moderators right. This way you can ACT TOUGH with no recourse.

At least you guys have Big Bird to defend. You know the noble causes

Treasonous? Oh, that is just "slap you on the back, can't catch my breath, gotta a side stitch, hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!

Obama/Biden 2012

Former GOP Chair Michael Steele says 'promoting charity is a good thing and we shouldn't politicize things like this' (paraphrase)....

Meanwhile, another nameless Republican defends Ryan, who washed 4 dishes--"which is a lot more than Obama can say he did for the 4 civil servants in Libya"

No, we inappropriately politicize issues, no, not us.....

American Girl

Your behavior is aristocratic. Aristocrats are one of the reasons people came to america to get away from.

The Society President (Antal) said Monday that Ryan washed a CLEAN "dish". Then Tuesday he said they were dirty dishes he cleaned.

On Monday, the volunteer WHO WAS THERE said that they were CLEAN "dishes"-- Tuesday the president of the Society changed his story.

A Romney flip flop? How can the guy say what went on when he wasn't there-- and he had the nerve to contradict what a volunteer who WAS there had told him.

I'm sorry-- I'd believe the volunteer who was there over a guy who wasn't there. And Lyin Ryan had no business showing up unannounced and using their kitchen for a photo session. And putting his wife and brats in the picture doing nothing.

JoAnnaSmith1 said:

I'm just glad this national nightmare has been resolved and has come to a peaceful conclusion.

All of you who support Ryan ought to be embarrassed that he uses homeless people as a prop for his ambitions.

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Yes, Obama and his family served homeless people before. But then again, they've always done that! Spare us the BS. Ryan used the soup kitchen simply for a photo op... washing already clean pans while his kids and wifey look on (doing absolutely nothing but watching him wash a clean plan). Give us a break!

GimDan:: I have seen photos and videos of President and Mrs. Obama at a food kitchen serving food to people who were there to get a meal. Do YOU volunteer to help anyone? I have over 10,200 hours volunteering to help veterans, I am still volunteering at 78 years of age. And driving to my volunteer job four evenings a week. And working usually three hours an evening

I find it a little sad that the right is trying to dismiss this as unimportant. It speaks to a persons character when they so something like this, and not in a good way. Spending 'a few minutes' cleaning pots isn't exactly doing charity work. it's a photo op. Obama has done this, but they stayed several hours, served food, and cleaned pots and pans after it was done. That is what charity work is.

It speaks to a persons character and in this Ryan fails. It's sad that you think that a potential leader of the U.S. and his character is unimportant, but at this point, I expect little more from the GOP.

Staged photo op?? And Obama has never done one??

Ok so he goes in (without permission), He and his family put on some work aprons, and wash a few dishes, get lots of photos taken, and then packs back up into their Limo and leaves.

And we're suppose to believe he gives a damn about the poor and Homeless?

How cheap and decietful can you be Ryan?! and why would we want your lying and cheating mug in the vice president seat when all you are is a greedy oppourtunist.

Ryan just checking out the digs at the soup kitchen to see where the starving children and families will go when he takes away their food stamps to give tax breaks for the rich!!!

Ryan trying to figure out how he can privatize soup kitchen to milk money out as a middleman instead of giving food stamps straight to the people who need them.

The blind hatred by Liberals and how you spin things is amazing and scary. The more liberals are brainwashed the lower this country goes down the toilet.

I am sure Obama drove all the way from Domino's Pizza for his photo opt handing workers at an early voting site 4 pizzas. Maybe the Pizza boxes were empty too so he wouldn't strain himself. **rolls eyes**

Your comments are so uncalled for **looks in Starsailing, fiesty and american girl's direction**

Only Democrats would complain about helping others.. so used to stealing from people, so sad.

Obama 2012 Cradle to the Grave ! Give me your money Give me your Freedoms !

Would expect nothing less from that slithering snake!

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Sorry, one could see the pan that little Paulie was so busily scrubbing. That pan had not been used. Fail.

All of you who support Ryan ought to be embarrassed that he uses homeless people as a prop for his ambitions.

As opposed to say democrats using welfare recipients for votes? Don't give me that one side cares more than the others, both sides are crap and both side us ppl to get what they want, which is money, control and power.

Probably the biggest lie that I also find the most amusing is that democrats are more giving and help the needy more than the republicans. Just because your tax dollar goes to feed some person who's been on welfare for 20 years doesn't mean you did your good deed for the day and if that helps you sleep better at night so be it.

How about instead of using the poor for photo opportunities
you use your position of power in the government to pass legislation that
actually helps them. Oh that’s right they represent the vast majority of
Americans that are lazy moochers who won't take personal responsibility for their
lives. As a Catholic it makes me sick to see an Ayn Rand piece of trash like
Paul Ryan is a member of my church. Don't talk about compassion and pretend to care,
live a life of compassion like Jesus Christ did. Do you think Jesus would vote
for the Ryan budget if he was in Congress? The only class warfare going on is
coming from the far right. Same old tired story give everything to the rich and hope they throw us normal people a crumb or two. Hasn't ever worked before, and it isn't going to work now

You ,liberals are pathetic. I bet Obama never washed anything in his life. What do yo mean Ryan wasn't invited. Does that mean for me to go into a soup kitchen and wash up it has to be sanctioned. Give it up. You people are sad.

The article indicated that Ryan did nothing here. Well what about obama? what has he done??

As president he has put more people in need of a soup kitchen,

Racked up debt to be 16 TRILLION

Spending $1.40 for every $1. that comes in via taxes (that goes on the credit card from the bank of china)

More people on food stamps, welfare and gov assistance than EVER BEFORE

The most people out of work for the longest sustained period of time since the depression (What’s that three letter word? J O B S )

That's what obama has done

**RR 2012**

He was making sure that there was a photographer there. Oh What a coincidence!!! Let's see if he goes there AFTER THE ELECTIONS!!!

That is why Romney and Ryan are loosing in Michigan. They only "remember" beautiful Michigan is during election time.

BS by the loads.

If some of you bothered to read the article you would see that this was a non-campaign stop and was done for personal reasons. It was the democrats that decided to politicize it and then scream foul when caught lying. What a surprise, denial from the top to the bottom.

If some of you bothered to read the article you would see that this was a non-campaign stop and was done for personal reasons

SURE! WE also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny!!

Get a GRIP!!!!!

• Lyin' Ryan is Still A Hypocrite!

Does anyone imagine he would have been there if it were not for the press cameras?

Republicans: Using the Poor as a photo op since 1862.

For Shame!

Why is this news...

You ,liberals are pathetic. I bet Obama never washed anything in his life

He was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I am sure that he has washed dishes more than once. However, Ryan is just SHOWING OFF!

NOBODY BELIEVES HIM, ONLY THE REPUBLICANS!!!!

now, that is pathetic!!!!

A little dirty Koch money... can dirty a pan in no time!

Okay, since some of you aren't getting the picture clear enough, here is the actual story straight from the Washington Post - he was NOT INVITED, NOR WOULD HE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO DO ANY OF THIS IF THE MAN IN CHARGE WAS BOTHERED TO HAVE BEEN ASKED!

The head of a northeast Ohio charity says that the Romney campaign last week “ramrodded their way” into the group’s Youngstown soup kitchen so that GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan could get his picture taken washing dishes in the dining hall.

Brian J. Antal, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, said that he was not contacted by the Romney campaign ahead of the Saturday morning visit by Ryan, who stopped by the soup kitchen after a town hall at Youngstown State University.

“We’re a faith-based organization; we are apolitical because the majority of our funding is from private donations,” Antal said in a phone interview Monday afternoon. “It’s strictly in our bylaws not to do it. They showed up there, and they did not have permission. They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors.”

He added: “The photo-op they did wasn’t even accurate. He did nothing. He just came in here to get his picture taken at the dining hall.”

Ryan had stopped by the soup kitchen for about 15 minutes on his way to the airport after his Saturday morning town hall in Youngstown. By the time he arrived, the food had already been served, the patrons had left, and the hall had been cleaned.

Upon entering the soup kitchen, Ryan, his wife and three young children greeted and thanked several volunteers, then donned white aprons and offered to clean some dishes. Photographers snapped photos and TV cameras shot footage of Ryan and his family washing pots and pans that did not appear to be dirty.

According to a Romney aide not authorized to speak publicly about the event, the campaign followed its usual protocol for impromptu, on-the-road stops by candidates: A staffer was dispatched to the St. Vincent De Paul Society ahead of Ryan’s visit Saturday morning and spoke with a woman in charge on site, who said that it would be fine for the congressman to stop by. The campaign did not contact Antal ahead of the visit.

The woman on site told the Romney staffer that some of the volunteers had already left, but that most were happy to remain until Ryan arrived, according to the aide. After Ryan left the soup kitchen, the woman approached a campaign staffer and expressed gratitude for Ryan’s visit, the aide said.

Chris Maloney, Ohio communications director for the Romney campaign, said that the visit by Ryan had been intended to highlight the work of the soup kitchen volunteers.

“Our campaign and Congressman Ryan were pleased to bring attention to the meaningful charitable contributions the St. Vincent De Paul Society makes to people in need,” Maloney said.

Antal, a self-described independent voter, said that he “can’t fault my volunteers” for letting the campaign in but said that the campaign “didn’t go through the proper channels.”

He noted that the soup kitchen relies on funding from private individuals who might reconsider their support if it appears that the charity is favoring one political candidate over another.

“I can’t afford to lose funding from these private individuals,” he said. “If this was the Democrats, I’d have the same exact problem.”

He added that the incident had caused him “all kinds of grief” and that regardless of whether Ryan had intended to serve food to patrons or wash dishes, he would not have allowed the visit to take place.

“Had they asked for permission, it wouldn’t have been granted. … But I certainly wouldn’t have let him wash clean pans, and then take a picture,” Antal said.

VIDEO: GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan stopped at a soup kitchen in Youngstown, Ohio on Saturday, where he and members of his family washed dishes for several minutes. The head of the charity has since come out saying Ryan’s visit violated the organization’s apolitical status, and that Ryan “just came in here to get his picture taken.”

We interrupt Ryan's sizing up the facilities for the 47% for a bit from Rosie on the Rachel Maddow show:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/49425089#49425089

Latest News: While kissing hands and shaking babies during his campaign tour, the incumbent faced reporters and photographers to publicly criticize his opponent's itinerary for the day.

"I find it disgraceful that my opponent makes campaign stops and uses them as an opportunity to shake hands and kiss the babies of his constituents. It is a selfish means of getting attention of those who's vote he is courting so vociferously."

In response, Bill Maher tweeted: If those selfish bitches would take it in the back door like good boys, then there would be fewer brats for the idiotic party to kiss. And maybe I could get some for a change.

Ayn Rand is spinning in her grave. Her sycophantic disciple is doing charity work. Don't worry Ayn, it's just for show.

And Feisty had it right - what the hell difference does it make if the dishes were clean or dirty? It's a photo opp regardless.

GimDan:: I have seen photos and videos of President and Mrs. Obama at a food kitchen serving food to people who were there to get a meal.

Was this the time when Michelle Obama was wearing her $540.00 shoes?

Obama or Biden would never go to a soup kitchen and you Libs are poking fun at Ryan???? What a joke on you for DEMS look down on such a thing..........

Obama just kicked Hillary in the butt in order to make her take the blame and the media is talking about Ryan washing dishes. Go figure.

LYNCHBURG, VA -- Amid questions and criticisms related to Paul Ryan’s visit this weekend to an Ohio soup kitchen, the charity’s president said the Republican vice presidential candidate did, in fact, scrub dirty dishes though his visit wasn’t officially sanctioned.

All I want to know is...Does Ryan hug his garbage man?

I think that the worst people in the US are Libs because they, they can condescend anyone or anything~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jo Ann-666954

Obama just kicked Hillary in the butt in order to make her take the blame and the media is talking about Ryan washing dishes. Go figure.

Well that,,,,and there is this too

1. Obama-Backed Battery Maker Files for Bankruptcy

You twisted haters of Romney/Ryan would be praising Oblunder to the heavens saying just how freaking wonderful and compassionate your Liar-in-chief is under the exact same circumstances!!!! Is this all you idiots got!!!!!! YOU FAIL jsut like your so-called president has his entire term in office!!! NOBAMA in 2012.

Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!! Save the rest of us from LIB destruction!!!!!!

Pat Boston MA.

Normal people have compassion. The Romney's of the world are not interested in compassion. Greed and power are their life's blood and to hell with anyone who gets in their way.

A123 Systems, which had received a $249 million grant from the U.S. government, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Tuesday, giving Republicans fresh ammunition to attack the Obama administration's subsidies for green energy.

The filing came after the lithium-ion battery maker's $465 million rescue deal with Chinese auto parts supplier Wanxiang Group collapsed, hobbled by "unanticipated and significant challenges," A123 said on its website.

Another bet on a loser. Libs need to learn how to gamble!

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Bottom line is Team Ryan was NOT invited!

Is that the excuse you use to not volunteer your time because whenever I've shown up "uninvited" to help at the local soup kitchen I certainily wasn't turned away.

Seriously how @!$%#ed up do you have to be to criticize ANYONE for volunteering ANY of their time for ANY reason?

Feisty

"Up next, these yahoo's will be storming the Humane Society!"

Yup they will looking for you,Feisty, last cage on the LEFT!!!!!!!

JAS1@1.19: Thank you for posting those two URL's. I actually have them on my favorites list but never got the right time to use them or the many others I have gleaned from the web. Just got back home from a long stint away and here I see you haven't let us down (again). Don't worry about Feisty or American Girl or any of their clan commenting on this one. I imagine their jaw dropped to their knees when (if) they even bothered to read it. Thanks again.

WCA: Stay on this thread until it's pulled and I'll check in when I can this evening.

and the whole Time Lyin Ryan was washing Dishes he was thinking, Hey you Disgusting people, get off your asses, Quit lounging around the overpasses, and that means you children too. I dont care if you are 5 years old. If the children in China can work for a nickel an Hour so can you. I cant wait to take away your peoples food stamps and Disability Checks, so I and the Top 1% can get more Tax Breaks

Ryan is so FAKE! Romney and Ryan cannot relate to the average American so they have to take photo ops to try and make themselves look like average Americans.

Obama/Biden 2012

Middle Class American

You are a lost person among AMERICANS!!!! You are like Feisty, in a cage and begging for someone to let you out...

Whoopee so he washed a few dishes.Big deal. Don't get carried away. It's not like he's gonna make a habit out of it or does it everyday,lol. Odds are they were clean anyway. Does anybody really think he's going to go in a place like that and wash dishes? Just a fake show to try and sucker some idiot in. I hope nobody is stupid enough to fall for this scam. That's sinking about as low as you can get using a place like that for his own selfish purpose. People like him in search of gain have no self respect or shame what so ever. Typical politician.

Ryan is so FAKE! Romney and Ryan cannot relate to the average American so they have to take photo ops to try and make themselves look like average Americans.

Obama/Biden 2012

Middle Class American

You are a lost person among AMERICANS!!!! You are like Feisty, in a cage and begging for someone to let you out...

Souptonuts: #1.75

Most of the bloggers that you are complaining about are probably unemployed...and will vote for Obama. Some others (hint, hint) either don't work the typical 9-5 or are self employed.

Middle Class American

You are a lost person among AMERICANS!!!! You are like Feisty, in a cage and begging for someone to let you out...

richard; playing the AMERICANS (shout it baby, shout it) card is pathetic, what next - the I'm better than you because I'm a white christian?

Why did Ryan even bother to do this - if his washing dishes swayed you to vote for Romney - then you shouldn't even be allowed to vote in the first place....emotional people should be outlawed...lmao. oh, I better be a richard and shout that next time.

Thats exactly how Republicans are, like Richard 3069835, result to insults and just being plain obnoxious when they know someone with intelligence hows something to say and are right!

Fietsy What is the matter are you upset because you think only lefties do charity. Typical save the world attitude but only if you are a Dem. Nitwit

J_P_PatchesPal_1

Why did Ryan bother to do this? Why golly gee - I equate this to Young George clearing brush on his fake ranch - because Americans are gullible!

By the way George's "fake ranch" did not have any livestock on it, but his not fake ranch home had a geothermal system, solar panels and a swimming pool

"Ryan's visit sparks controversy"

Ya Think??

What a stupid-a** title for an article. It should read EVERYTHING that Either Candidate does "sparks controversy".

How much higher did the national debt climb today again??

Those dirty dishes Ryan cleaned at the soup kitchen is NOTHING compared to the clean up Romney and Ryan has to while in the WhiteHouse for ALL of us thanks to obama's corrupt ineptness.

This link was posted as a rebuttal to Ryan using the Mission to look good.

Hmm, it shows President Obama and his family actually talking to guests at the mission as well as serving food. Heck they even shook hands and touched people. Some comparison. VERY ACCURATE

To all of those commentators who think Ryan was doing anything other than playing the political game....and, as someone who lived and worked 20 years in the Washington, DC game of "making your candidate seem like a walking , talking, feeling , thinking human being"..... I have to believe it's that same frame of mind that allows you think Romney and Ryan are acceptable candidates for high office. They are both artificial life forms who have been programed and reprogrammed in order to fool the population of the United States into believing Karl Rove would "no"t actually be running the government if there is a Republican victory.

I also hope all intelligent people will remember to vote out all the obstructionist Republican members of Congress in the next cycle. Then we can get our country back in order...

What? A Right-wing Republican Conservative Tea-Tagger actually did something without first being invited or paid to do it? EVIL COMMUNISTIC SOCIALISM!!!!

"...the Ryan family put on white aprons and proceeded to wash dishes for several minutes as cameras and still photographers snapped photos nearby."

This sounds to me like a case of cynicism at it's very worst. This photo-op did nothing for the hungry, it was designed exclusively to help Ryan. Period. That's utterly pathetic if you ask me.

How many dishes can Paul Ryan wash after he and Romney have 47% of the nation eating out of soup kitchens? Bad move Ryan. Your experience with Romney will leave you unable to be elected dog-catcher. Maybe you can become the Romney dog-washer after long family trips. Call 1-800-Bite-Me. Ask for Seamus.

Hahaha, this is rediculious! HE WASHED SOME DISHES PEOPLE. Big freaking deal. The Republicans are know to be more generious the Dems and so this is NO surprise!

I guess if you have nothing to sling at the Repubs you gotta make something up! How desperate the libs are. I just gotta laugh.

The right holds the American view while the slingers on the left hang on to lies, destortion and BIG Government redistribution.

Pathetic.

Who knows if the dishes were clean or dirty and who would take Ryan's word anyway? He and Romney are pathological liars. Why not play the American public for fools and dolts? They can totally get away with it so why not?

So, Ryan visits an Obama tent city funded by conservative christians. What was he thinking, did he really think that the retired OCUPPIERS would be civil while eat food donated by conservative christians ... we'z gotsa getz Obama in Prezident so'z we'z getz ta keep'z ouwa Obama Fonez

Eyez lov'z me'z somes Obama

The Article re: Ryan washing dishes???

Geez, there must be more substance written by the Mainstream Media, and authors of articles besides this.

I'll bet Pres. Obama washed dishes, dirty ones at that. Everyone washes dishes.

We need articles that are about the serious crises that faces Americans today. I doubt they are worried about clean or dirty dishes--The jobless or those want to work must be shaking their heads at this silly report.

Hope this subject is not brought up in the Town Hall Style Debate tonight!

As a proud resident of Lyin Ryan's 1st District, I urge my neighbors to get rid of this dirt once and for all and flush the Tea! ZERBAN can win, he knows his stuff, AND is on our side! SEND RYAN TO THE SOUP KITCHEN FOR GOOD!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN and ZERBAN. VOTE STRAIGHT DEM TICKET THIS YEAR!

Obama helping the 47% become the 57%

Guess Ryan got caught with his pants down---what an ass--Ole!

How much more fraudulent can the ROMRY Campaign get. And to think they Almost had my support but when the lies began they lost it for the lies continue to come out daily.

Trying to be something that you are not is never a good sign of what's to come! Both ROMRY blew it and cannot take back the lies thy perpetrated. What failures-----Rom states he wishes to serve Americans yet ran to a private chateau in France to dodge the draft while many others died so he could revel with wealthy. Ryan truly just simply doesn't have a clue how pathetically arrogant he is and he does have a memory issue of selective nature for he does not remember that CONGRESS disapproved of his med plan!

What ignorant souls we have running to gain control---while pooping on any and everyone in their way! AGAIN WHAT AN ASS!

Hate to tell you but Ryan wanted a photo opt he could have asked any of 100s of soup kitchens for a photo op and the publicity with it.

I find it interesting a left leaning soup kitchen is were he showed up. Guess when you want to help you don't ask who the owner voted for the last 17 years.

Hey Ryan might vet who you help since their are so many back stabbing liberals in the world.

Not when you are going to pay them for allowing it!

Wow Ryan got caught washing clean dishes so what 23 million people out of work and 47 million people on food stamps and this is all you got god help us.

Here's some simple math for Citizen Romney and his youthful ward Mr. Ryan:

100% of the 47% (and surely a goodly number of the rest) are laughing their collective butts off at this extremely feeble attempt to curry favor with the proletariat!

Oh, how I love the heady scent of desperation!

What a disgustingly fake horse's rear end.

47% of the dishes needed to be cleaned by a government offical.

American Girl-724855 are you in the cage next to FEISTY????

If you are we are leaving you both to stay over night because you both need training for both of you LIE to much!!!!!!

All he was doing was showing his wife and kids what they will be doing if they don't get out and get him and Mitt elected. And besides he was next to the water spigot and he was thirsty and needed lots of water. Then before he left he went into the restroom and took a Mitt while his family waited. Then he went back out to the common folk, the 47% and told them if he and Robme gets elected thats where they will be getting their next meal. Now this is striaght forward talk, and Romney/Ryan need to learn to open up like this, and tell the truth.

Obama/Biden 2012

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Ahhhhh yes, I see the Liberal bobble heads are trying anything to discredit the Romney/Ryan Express that is barreling down on Barrack Hussein and Joe "Giggles" Biden.

This of course from the same useful idiots who glamorize all their nanny-state lives through a cartoon called "The Life of Julia".

Did the Big Bird schtick run out of gas Libbies?

You can't make this stuff up.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

People are so crazy, they talk about Obama and Romney as if they are two different people. Both are cut from the very same cloth. They are both controlled by the sponsors of tonights debate (why aren't the other presidetial candidates allowed????????!!!!!!!!!!!!) and the corporations paying them to do the work of ALEC. The corporations that are paying for all of you to fight WITH each other instead of FOR each other. Look at their ads all over this page.

They are also under direct orders from the bankers holding all of us as collateral. The bankers who will make the decissions of war. The bankers who will profit from funding both sides of war.

It makes no difference who wins this election. The next president will only be in office for four years. The bankers and the corporate overlords will be here forever...or until there is a big fat revolution.

American Girl-724855 are you in the cage next to FEISTY????

Hey Dick!

We heard you the first time, do you actually believe repeating youself like a trained parrot is making your case? lmao!

Take two Viagra and get back to us in the morning, you impotent little troll! ☺

rukidding47, Ryan was just showing you Republicans what jobs he and Mittens won't be OUT SOURCING for your next Job. If he can do it, he say so can you, NO UNEMPLOYMENT check that moneys going into the 1%'s OFF SHORE ACCOUNTS. lol,lol,lol,lol,lol your in trouble ,BOY!!!

its not compassionate to put on welfare the 47%. giving jobs to 47% is compassionate.

Who cares how many and where he did the dishes.At least he is using his time productively. If unemployment weren't so rampant we wouldn't have the need for the many soup kitchens that this country has.the current leaders should be ashamed at the amount of people who have the need for soup kitchen.Thank you Mr.Ryan for doing your part for the less fortunate.Mr.Romney and Mr.Ryan,you have my vote.

Watching these liberals go foaming at the mouth about big bird and dirty or not dirty dishes is a hoot. Guess you have to grab onto anything you can when you are backing a total anti-American failure. That and tell lies about the other guy and find anyone to blame for everything except you loser in chief.

Thank God this joke of an administration is almost over and we can return to a sane country based on our foundations. Let someone else become Obama Socialist Muslim Tent City.

At least most Romney/Ryan supporters know how to use the English language and without the disparaging words included.

Liberals on here making something out of nothing once again. If only they had that kind of passion to find out the truth about the death of our Ambasador. Oops did I hit a touchy liberal subject. Or how about the 500 billion dollar debt Obama road Mccain about in the town hall debate when those two met. Oops again I guess amother touchy subject since Obama has racked up more debt than the past presidents. But has usual they will blame the republicans because they are not responsible for anything that happens.I guess until they can have something reall and truthful to talk about it will be all about dirty dishes and big bird. Pretty Pathetic.

• The man did a good thing, and not just an appearance.
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• Why all the hate people.

• There a lot of highly dysfunctional people here; seek help !

sid-524385

Ryan was just showing you Republicans what jobs he and Mittens won't be OUT SOURCING for your next Job.

WHEW!!!!

Thank God they won't be outsourcing the jobs your boy-toy Barrack Hussein is creating.

You do realize that the majority of the alleged 5 million jobs Barrack has created are in the minimum wage/low-no benefit scale.

These are retail, FOOD SERVICE, hospitality, temp services and other sectors.

Lower-paying jobs, with median hourly wages from $7.69 to $13.83, accounted for just 21% of the job losses during the recession. But they've made up about 58% of the job growth from the end of the recession in late 2009 through early 2012.

In contrast, mid-wage occupations with median hourly wages from $13.84 to $21.13 -- jobs such as construction workers, real estate brokers, and data entry clerks -- have accounted for just 22% of the new jobs in the recovery after making up 60% of the job losses in the recession.

Are ya feelin kinda foolish yet?

Try to keep up Spanky.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 FOR REAL AMERICANS©

Lying Ryan will do anything to get a photo OP! It would be nice if he would do this sort of thing in Rock Co. when he is home. Instead he spends time with the rich and powerful devising ways to make the greedy 1% own even more than the 42% they now own!

This is a good lesson to Obama and his pro-illegal immigration policy. There is not job that Americans can't do , but we cant compete with desaventage with illegals who work for 5 Dollars per hour, live 100 in a room and send all their money to Mexico. This is also a gesture of humility. Well done

R/R 2012

oskar,

I've told you before that you need to tell that to the greedy corporations and businesses that hire these workers over Americans so that they can have even bigger profits. It isn't the presidents fault that crooked CEO 's and businessmen give them jobs. We have a foundry near us that has 5 men with the same name and same Social Security Number. You don't think that the company knows that? Oskar, It is called greed!

Romney and Ryan for the new Aristocracy!

"Seriously how @!$%#ed up do you have to be to criticize ANYONE for volunteering ANY of their time for ANY reason?"

So lets get this straight.Ryan shows up at a homeless shelter after all the homeless are gone and he doesn't have to see them.When the place is already cleaned up.Then he grabs a couple of clean pans and washes them in front of the camera's taking pictures for his campaign.All in 15 minutes. And you Republicans don't see what's wrong with than. And actually think that is volunteering,really!

That ladies and gentlemen says everything that could be said about the difference between Republicans and Democrats.When President Obama visited the homeless shelter,he actually fed the homeless.He saw and talked to them.And really helped with the clean up.Spending several hours with them. It all boils down to character.President Obama has it and Ryan doesn't.

@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

We heard you the first time, do you actually believe repeating youself like a trained parrot is making your case? lmao!

Well you seem to think it works for you so why would you laugh at someone else for doing the same thing?

DaveK-1110204

Wow is all I can say, you took a few of my statements then made some amazing leaps of "logic" ! I did not mention even half the topics you were trying to accuse me of being a hypocrite around, please re-read my post, take it word for word don't read between the lines becasue there are no lines to read between.

Where did I say I believe woman should be paid for sex, I didn't, where did I say it should be used to control the population or stop poor people from having sex, I didn't.

Also your reason against allow gay marriage is not a valid argument. Regardless if two men or woman can or can-not get married will not result in a decrease in the birth-rate. I take it you are a conservative, which I have no problem with. One of the core values of being a Republican is the family unit and the commitment to that unit. How on earth does the creation of ANY strong family unit whether or not they involve children (a) hurt other marriages and (b) reduce the birth rate?

As for there being no-ban on gay marriage here is the list where marriage is not an option becasue of a constitutional ban on two men or two women being able to marry:

• Alabama
• Alaska
• Arizona
• Arkansas
• California (with the passage of Prop 8)
• Colorado
• Florida
• Georgia
• Kansas
• Kentucky
• Idaho
• Louisiana
• Michigan
• Mississippi
• Missouri
• Montana
• Nebraska
• Nevada
• North Carolina
• North Dakota
• Ohio
• Oklahoma
• Oregon
• South Carolina
• South Dakota
• Tennessee
• Texas
• Utah
• Virginia
• Wisconsin

In another area you talk to me about the economy, which I did not touch on so I will not comment on.

Voter ID laws, my problem is these are only being contested by Republicans in the swing States, shame on them, shame, shame, this is so blatant in its reasoning I should not have to spell it out to you. Since 2000 there have been 10 records of in-person voter fraud, really is this worth spending the millions on (only in swing states of course)

A quote from you "Perhaps before deciding which side of the fence to jump off you should look at the actual issues instead of reading some liberal media and making a decision based on headlines"

Yet again you make giant leaps of what you think you know about me, you know nothing, yet you still find it OK to make wild assumptions on how I conduct my research which is simply untrue.

As I finish replying to you, next time try not to generalize or assume you know what my thoughts are on other topics I have not even mentioned. I take my information and news sources from a variety of areas. I have read the white paper submissions on laws, I have read from cover to cover the Ryan budget I read the news then look up the facts and the information for their original source.

Also point out where I called Christians bible thumping lunatics, I am a Christian and I also believe I have no right to judge others and also believe in religion staying out of law making. As for Morality yes I am conservative, I believe that it is immoral for a society to create second class citizens in our own country.

With that I am done.

Ryan's "mixing with the lesser" is an attempt hoodwink the American public.

Do not be surprised if we see him and family:

- Giving old clothes to Goodwill

- Giving old toys to The Salvation Army

- Shopping at Target

- Shopping at a 99 cent store

- Visiting underprivileged schools

- With bouquets, visiting nursing homes

- Handing out sandwiches to the homeless

- Lending a hand to Houses for Humanity

- Carrying crayons to a Ronald McDonald house

- Picking up stray animals from the streets

Ryan's hero is Ayn Rand, greed at all cost.

Do not be fooled, folks by this sudden false "concern" that Ryan is dancing with!

Obama/Biden 2012!

Wlaker

That is what the middle class does but we don't make a video of it. We just do it. Maybe we in middle class should give ourselves a little more credit and start fighting for our way of life before it is too late for us.

Jennifer,

Agreed.

A huge problem is money in politics. The wealthy have "purchased" our system making it difficult for the middle class and the poor to earn their way up the ladder of economic mobility or advocate for justice. It is critical for Obama and Biden to win, to keep all the doors of opportunity from slamming shut.

Whether he washed dirty or clean dishes is beside the point. Both Romney and Ryan were "inelegant" here. After the two republicans left, the soup kitchen discovered several spoons, pans and saucers missing. Waaahahahahah,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. What a sorry distraction to play on the homeless just to get a photo of Lying Ryan appearing to help them, while stealing some extra tupperware for Mitt. Egads! Republicans! Waaa,hahahahahah,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha................................................................ All you shoeshine people better watch out. These two sons-ah-bitches will steal your cloth and polish! Waaaaaaaa,hahahahahahaha!

WCA, I guess it's that "half-empty/half-full" perspective. Like you, I don't consider the story newsworthy, but I do see it as an embarrassment for the Romney campaign since it's still being talked about. I'm sure they only intended to get some viable photos but ended up with a debate over just how dirty the dishes were that Ryan washed - ridiculous!

Ursula, the only folks who care how dirty the dishes were are posting here at First Read.

Most everyone else is worried about putting food on their own dishes.

WCA -

What exactly was the "good deed" here? All I saw was a campaign making an uninvited stop after the homeless people and most of the volunteers had already left - with the cameras rolling and Congressman Ryan making his kids go along with it. A "good deed" to me would have been taking them there WITHOUT the cameras and giving them a teaching moment in what it really means to not have food or dishes or even a home. I was always taught that good deeds are what you do when there's nobody around to applaud.

I guess when you don't have a record to run on you'll grab at anything -- but THIS is just pathetic! So do we have any clips of BO doing dishes or toiling away or is he just too busy with the RICH and ELITE campaign fundraisers to make time. Just like when 4 Americans were murdered in Libya, his concern only went to Air Force 1 and Vegas -- got money to raise people!

White Collar, Welcome to the club!

Ursula, the only folks who care how dirty the dishes were are posting here at First Read.

And boy is it ever important to us, eh? Thanks for all your support to keep the conversation going.

The sad thing to watch is the Republicans willingness to be deceived by their own party.

O&Joe 2012

Do us proud, Mr. President!!! Go Barack!

FYI turdsula..RYAN made it newsworthy by showing up uninvited without regard for others around. What a circus sideshow the Wormney campaign has become. Using the story of "Well I met the dead SEALs once." Mom later says SHE doesn't trust Romney and he must stop using her dead sons name. The SEALs best friend recounted the meeting with Wormney, said it was a joke. . Lyin Ryan says ONE Dem supports his plan for Medicare, that Dem from Oregon has since backed away from the draft.. Mittens is using the death of Amb. Stevens for political gain. Sad really. Amb. Stevens dad thinks its disgusting. Sure Obama used Big Bird in an ad, but Wormney stepped in that pile of bird @!$%# himself.

Wormney is wrong for Amercia.

Easy, there, 420! Ursula is on the good side! DON'T call her "turdsula"! Be nice! Peace.

Watch it, my liberal friends, if you want to judge a candidate by how much he helps a charity, you're going to have to give the win to Romney. Hands down.

I think that it's sad that a man can't stop by a charity and help out a bit without it being deemed inappropriate.

Wouldn't it be great if everyone stopped by a charity and helped, even if only for 5 minutes? Imagine how much these charities would appreciate it.

Micro volunteering.

Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

White Collar

I dont recall seeing any libbies standing around taking pictures of him "washing dishes". The ones trying to make this important are repub righties.

NorCalModerate, while donations to churches qualify for the tax exemption, churches don't necessarily qualify as truly charitable organizations. Mitt Romney's charitable giving is primarily to the Mormon church. Do you know what charitable work they do?

A study co-written by Cragun and recently published in Free Inquiry estimates that the Mormon Church donates only about 0.7 percent of its annual income to charity; the United Methodist Church gives about 29 percent.

http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/62364-how-the-mormons-make-money

Romney may have given 10% of his income to his church, but less than 1% of it went to charitable works.

Most of the stories about Romney are told by the people the acts were done to, not normally by Romney.

Romney, like most conservatives prefer to do the acts in private, out of sight. It's kind of hard to do that right now.

Giving 10% of your income to your church or risk excommunication can hardly be considered as charity, "norcal". Romney does not win "hands down" by buying his ticket to heaven. Trying to pass it off as voluntary "charity" is immoral and deceitful.

True compassion from Ryan would have entailed setting a time to visit and actually speaking to the volunteers and the homeless people about their hardship and their views. A "man" vying for the position of Vice-President can do more for the homeless than scrubbing a stupid pot.

Yes - it would be incredible if everyone did a little bit here and there to help those in need. The fact is, a man in Ryan's position can do much, much more than scrub a pot and pose for pictures - and, clearly, he is not up to the task.

Given Ryan's rhetoric and record in Congress, this visit seems completely disingenuous. Shame on you for falling for it and not expecting more from your candidates.

They are trying desperately to get the 45% comments behind them. I hope tonight President Obama REMINDS THEM OF THEIR "COMPASIONATE' COMMENTS.

They are "so compassionate"They want to get rid of old dirty trash: 45% of Americans to make sure the rest get the "American Dream"

Of course the "American Dream" now is being rich and have everybody that works for you being paid SH&&&T, while you enjoy the "fruits of your labor"

PFFT!!!!!

I think that it's sad that a man can't stop by a charity and help out a bit without it being deemed inappropriate

Ooh Please Cut the DRAMA! Ryan is hardly just "a man" Many people help in soup kitchens without taken photographs in a suit.

POMPOUS ASS. He only cares about his image

The question should be.. has he ever done any type of this voluntary work before? if no which is likely is why now? we all know who volunteered to help the needy in his community after graduating from Harvard where he could have gotten a six figure income right away. It was not for money and it was not for fame.

OMG WCA - Use whatever logic (or lack there of) to vote for whomever you wish. I could not care less. But if you think the Mr. Ryan's motives for stopping by the St Vincent de Paul soup kitchen were purely to perform a good deed you are shamefully naive. You should not try to convice others of something you could not possibly believe yourself.

JoAnne in PA

A "good deed" to me would have been taking them there WITHOUT the cameras

Give me a break. The man is a candidate for Vice President. You do realize that whole hoards of reporters travel along with him whereever he goes right? He's lucky if he gets to take a @!$%# without someone sticking a camera in his face.

He's lucky if he gets to take a @!$%# without someone sticking a camera in his face.

And that is the REAL reason why he went to the kitchen soup to wash dishes in the first place.

I am sure that they took the homeless away, so he "would not bother with the smell"

What a TOOL!

Sure it's so much better that Obama spend his time on Letterman, the view and hanging out in Vegas while American citizens are being butchered!!!! Behavior to aspire to??? NOT!!!!!

White Collar Auto

Ursula, the only folks who care how dirty the dishes were are posting here at First Read.

Most everyone else is worried about putting food on their own dishes.

#2.2 - Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

I guess you must actually care whether those dishes were dirty -- since you have posted here at "First Read" about!

Doesn't matter whether the fool was invited or not, or even whether it was a scheduled stop. IT'S STILL JUST A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HOW "CARING" HE IS!!

The Ten Cannot

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By William J. H. Boetcker

Anyone who doesnot think that this was a CAMPAIGN STOP/GIMMIC really needs to open their eyes and see the truth. Of course it was a campaign stop---just not publized as such.

Please do not be so SUPID YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER ---It is an Election year after all nd all stops and utternaces are for compaigning nothing more or less!

@IRESPOND-2315268

I am sure that they took the homeless away, so he "would not bother with the smell"

What a TOOL!

If you are "sure" of that you should avoid calling anyone else a tool lest you make a hypocrit of yourself.

At Joanne in PA,

"I was always taught that good deeds are what you do when there's nobody around to applaud"

I'll remember that next time I see a bad car accident and there are a lot of people around. I'll just stand around and wait to help until all the people have dispersed. What kind of logic is that? Anyone can do good deeds regardless of the audience.

To shockedanddisquested==I agree with most of what you had to say except, you are not excommunicated if you don't donate 10%. Donations to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (mormon) is between you and the Lord. We are encouraged to tithe 10% but that is up to me.

Look Ryan really didn't care about a soup kitchen except for an opportunity to get a picture taken. You do things out of the goodness of your heart for others not to get recognition or praise. I have done service all my live and never wanted my picture taken or my name in the paper.

One last thing I will say is that if Romney and Ryan get elected there will be alot, and I mean alot more soup kitchens.

Obama/Biden 2012 for our future.

Ursula-279622...you are the half empty, looking at 47% on welfare as half full, nobody wants to live off on someone's gain, called dependency, a way of living without freedom to choose your own pursuit of happiness.

There are many things that Romney has done to help his community, however with regard to Obama that says be with 47% there is no record of a single work of charity which he personally made before entering to the public life.

So in your book going to chuch is a charitable act? LMAO Dimwit.

At least you spelled dimwit correctly this time Shelly! Your comments are so well thought out!

So uninformed. He's gone to several churches in the Washington, D.C. area. What's the point when ignorant people will still say he's a Muslim? Amazing how people can be so sanctimonious, but have no compassion on the middle class, children, elderly, the poor or sick. More like the Pharisees than Jesus!

Because Obama would have the good nature to actually help out at the soup kitchen rather than just stage fake publicity photos.

I could give a @!$%# less about him washing dishes, its probably the first time and everyone knows its a political stunt. The difference between the two is one is looking out for the rich and the other is looking out for the middle class and women!!!

AMEN, fellow female!

Thanks for the laughs, Cameron and Female!! Too funny. What is sad, is that you two actually believe yourselves.

If you think Obama cares for anyone but himself, you have a screw loose! He hasn't even helped out his own family, including his poor half brother in Kenya or his aunt who almost got deported. The only thing he cares about is keeping his job.

Ryan, you can come wash dishes at our house any time! People need to stop whinning about stupid stuff and let your vote count.

What do they do, mhvi1, let one of you extreme wing nuts out daily to rant and rave?

Hey Oscar: Our middle class has been in ****sville since he took over. Didn't do anything constructive in spite of having the House and Congress. What is his plan for the next four years? Tax the Middle Class he cares so much about.

AND for all their rhetoric about Mitt and Ryan "not being for women" : Yesterday, I predicted in one of my blogs that he was going to throw Hillary under the bus. Now, it's been all over the news today that Hillary is taking "responsibility" for the terrible deaths due to security breach. She even said that the buck stops with her. Everyone in Washington knows that is a famous Truman quote: Truman was the President at the time when he owned up to a mistake. Hillary is not the President - She is willing to step up so that he can continue with his debate tonight and hopefully no one will ask him about all the LIES he has told the country and the families of the four dead Americans. Hiding behind a woman's skirt is not very presidential. It is what cowards do. Obama is for Obama.

As if he hasn't done enough inexcusable damage to the Office Of The President and What It Stands For: Watch CNN: They are out in force saying that the only reason any of this was in the news was because Romney and Ryan were using it as Talking Points.

I would much rather have Ryan pose for a harmless photo instead of letting a woman cover his back.

Not to worry; Senators in Washington know that the buck stops at the doorstep of the Commander In Chief In Washington.

I agree with you on this and all I can say is WOW!

How can so many continue to defend the man that has done nothing but LIE! To America for four years, while leading them down the rosy path to destruction.

Women think he is for them and will look out for their interest?

Take a look who is his biggest backer and stumper. Billy Boob Clinton! Talk about a role model,
this man performed more degrading acts toward women than any president in recent history.
Not to mention a little thing like being IMPEACHED, and still living off taxes paid to support his miserable life.

When you think about this, women should be insulted that such values are being placed at the head of the democratic platform.

Liberals rage with Photo op’s as a come back?

Who has had more press, been on more talk shows than Scott Cohen, Al Pacino and Jack Nicholson, or any previous president of this country with the exception of Billy Boy.

Are royalties paid the prez. with future movie contract rights of his up and coming book.

Wait let me guess, the title will be “SCHEMES of My Fathers. Trust me!”

So, you brilliant right wingers want to go back to the same policies that caused the country to go in the tank, use the same advisers that advised Bush/Cheney to bring back the same stupid policies. You ignore the fact that the Republicans in Congress tried to prevent Obama from succeeding in his efforts for jobs, you ignore the lies and flip flops by Romney and Ryan and ignore their plans which will harm the middle class and the retirees. Brilliant!