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Subscribe to RSSOhio voters aren't just picking a president this November; they're also voting for the U.S. Senate, which could impact the balance of power in that chamber.
And this afternoon, Democratic incumbent U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown and his Republican opponent, State Treasurer Josh Mandel, faced off in their first one-on-one debate at the Cleveland City Club.
The two candidates sparred over who can best represent the interests of the middle class and protect manufacturing jobs -– two issues traditionally important to Buckeye State voters.
Mandel stressed his fiscal responsibility as Ohio’s treasurer, admonished Brown for the downgrade of U.S. credit, and criticized the failure of the U.S. Senate for not passing a budget in three years. He repeatedly chastised Brown for his “record of failure,” casting him as part of the problem and everything that is wrong with Washington, D.C.
Brown, for his part, has long since championed himself as a populist fighter for America’s working and middle class and touted his support for President Obama’s stimulus bill, the auto rescue, and his own bipartisan jobs bill in the Senate.
Mandel opposed the auto bailout -- and Brown pounced.
“Josh, you would be so out of step with George Voinovich and Steve LaTourette,” the Democratic incumbent charged, referring to the moderate former senator and a current member of the Ohio delegation who supported the auto bailout. “To oppose the auto rescue just boggles my mind.”
Mandel said he opposed the auto rescue and still does because the bill strips some retirees of their pensions, and he took the opportunity to admonish Brown for his support TARP and financial regulatory reform as well.
“I'm not a bailout senator,” Mandel said. “He's the bailout Senator,” referring to Brown.
When a question from a member of the audience claimed that Brown had a supported a war on coal, Mandel pounced, reminding viewers that Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) crossed party lines in the support of the coal industry when Brown had voted with the Democrats.
“At the end of the day, Sen. Manchin took on his party, but Sherrod Brown voted against coal producing manufacturing jobs,” Mandel said.
Mandel was questioned on the issues of trust and hypocrisy for fashioning himself as an independent who would not be beholden to party bosses but has already sacrificed his independence by signing Grover Norquist’s infamous tax pledge.
“Signing a pledge to a fat-cat lobbyist like Grover Norquist is essentially giving away your right to think,” Brown responded.
Mandel has also faced criticism for hiring campaign workers to work in the state Treasurer’s office, after he had ridiculed Brown for doing the same in his Senate office.
When pressed Mandel said he put his employees up against Brown’s any day.
“It’s well established that Josh Mandel doesn’t show up to do the job he was entrusted to do, you can’t trust him to hire people to run his office, and most importantly to all the newspapers who endorsed me but didn’t endorse me in 2006, you can’t trust him to fight for the middle class,” Brown said.
Brown and Mandel meet again on Thursday October 18, as well as on Oct. 25, when NBC's Chuck Todd moderates the final Brown-vs.-Mandel debate.
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1st debate and 18% of Ohioans have already voted
but are they actually saying anything new that people shouldn't already know? I believe an educated voter would already know both positions before now. The television isn't the main source of news anymore. This election cycle has taught me that if you are waiting until the last minute to involve yourself then you are going to make the wrong decision because all you are going to see is the dog and pony show portion of politics. I feel sorry for people who vote that blindly.
Dennis -
How are you today, must be getting tired of being bombarded by the political ads. You mentioned 18% of Ohioans have already voted, again one big reason why I do not agree with with voting 30 days early. What if something comes up in the last few days of an election, people have thrown away their votes with no chance to change their votes. One reason I like going to the poll on election day or mailing in absentee ballot just prior to dead line.
I believe voting is the important rights a citizen can participate, and if they are inconvenienced to vote on election day then they really aren't doing their duty. I remember when people were given time off, usually 1/2 day, to vote, and a lot of people used the time to shop, fish or take care of personal things and still not voting, so a lot of businesses stopped given time off. Polls are usually open from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. and that should give everyone who wants to vote time to vote. It seems like every time we make it easier for people to vote, it really doesn't increase the percentage of voters.
Further, most of these voter ID laws passed, if the law was known 6 months in advance, then I think the courts, ACLU and others should stay out of it. 6 months give people more than enough time to get proper ID to vote.
Hi Sarge,
I’ll keep it simple.
IMO it would be rare for most people to change their mind because of an event just before an election. They have been watching the candidates for at least a year. If they don’t know and trust their pick a month before the election they never will.
However I view State and Local candidates differently. The new problem for them is that the national election are consuming all the TV time forcing us to rely on their web sites, radio and mailers.
Pack your bags Sharrod Brown, you are a proven failure.
The Republicans are taking the white house and all of congress this year.
elliot,
RCP (Average of polls) for the Senate as of 10/15/2012
Tossup: [Tied in 2] + [D leading in 6] + [R leading in 3] = 11
Dems: Not up/Safe 37 + Likely 7 = 44 + Lean 2 = 46
Rpub: Not up/Safe 42 + Likely 1 = 43 + Lean 0 = 43
It looks like the Dems will hold the Senate but not lose any seats
@Dan Austin, Tx
Don't feel sorry for them. Feel sorry for everyone else who voted with due diligence but got stuck with someone like bush because others voted blindly. The idiots deserve to be screwed. But the others don't.
Is the concern of voting early because "something might happen" or because the other side is winning? Suppose everyone votes on November 6 and something happens on November7 are we supposed to have a do over? I have always managed to make it to the polls on election day or vote absentee on the one time I couldn't. Perhaps other people have their reasons for voting a month early but if their states allow it why not?
Where is the aricle on Mrs. Pelosi losing her race in Cali ?????
Dennis,
I've been studying the polls closely. IF Brown returns, it's going to be by a very narrow margin. If the current trend continues, both Romney and Mandel take Ohio.
Ido... Pelosi's losing? I have not heard that, but PLEASE make it be so. I live in Cali and she is a friggin' embarrassment to the State.
Ldo - and then you woke up
DB,
If Brown loses it clearly means that the Citizens United ruling allowed the purchase of a Senate seat. Super PAC's have spent $18 million so far, to defeat Brown. He has been outspent by 5 to 1.
Dennis, Obama outspent McCain by 3 to 1, did the unions an democrats buy his presidency? Democrats only hate campaign financing when they are on the losing end.
Dennis in 2008, 2/3's the corporate money went to the Democrats. This year it is going to Republicans.
Corporations vote by spending money on the people they think would do the best for the economy.
The corporate money may be big here in Ohio, but the bigger news is the ground game. I've lived in West Akron for 15 years. This is the first year I have seen a republican going door to door that I remember.
Where are the places Romney is going? Into Youngstown, Canton, Summit County, Portage County chiefly in the Democratic strongholds.
Will he win Ohio?
There are two keys.
First, they have to have the traditional Republican strongholds secured - DONE!
Second, they must do well in Summit, Portage counties. The surprise is that they have expanded to Stark and the Youngstown areas. They are there because they are gaining traction, and fast.
No, corporations vote by spending money on the people they think will do the best for them. If it helps the economy or the country, well that's OK too.
okie...
Tell us just how corporations do well in a poor economy, please?
Ask Exxon/Mobil how they're doing.
I would be willing to be that NO corporation ever contributed to a candidate because they thought that he/she would improve the economy. They support candidates that they think will help them somehow, either through tax breaks, incentives, subsidies, etc. Any help to the economy is unimportant and simply a side effect.
Yo, Fat Man .. it's easy. CEOs are receiving the highest compensations packages ever in the history of mankind. Corporations are the most cash rich ever in the history of mankind. You must be missing your sidekick Jake to research these well known facts that you are too damn lazy to look up.
I am from Arizona and do not have a frog in the fight, but it seems to me, any politician who would sign a commitment to a lobbyist cannot consciously represent the people in good faith.
Old fat guy,
Do you not watch the news ? Over the past three years the Stock Market has regained 98% of it's recession losses and big oil and many other large corporations keep reporting yearly record profits. You really need to keep up with the times.
Jesse, AZ
Actually millions of Americans contributed small amounts of money in a highly successful grass-roots fundraising effort run by Obama campaign in 2008, just as he is doing again this year. Citizens United wasn't passed by the supreme court until 2010, so we're not opposed to individuals spending to support their candidate, just corporations and billionaires giving unlimited amounts without disclosing who they are and where the money is coming from. I think the fundraising numbers speak for themselves, if you are looking for the party that is willing to sell itself to the highest bidder. Unions aren't exactly well endowed these days, as the GOP has been highly successful in reducing or abolishing unions when and where they have the chance.
Ellis..
So then it must be the corporations that put the democrats in power???
Actually corporate profits are what they are because of interest rates not sales.
Speaking of interest rates watch what normal does to our federal state and local deficits.
OFG...how do interest rates dictate corporate profit...Supply side Economics? Not only are corporate tax rates HALF of what they were under Reagan, the ACTUAL RATE is the lowest among industrialized nations. The stock market is up, corporate profits are up and all I hear is that companies cannot hire because of uncertainty about taxes...that is a myth belied by facts, history and economic theory. Companies hire when demand outstrips supply (demand side). Period. And corporations are not people my friend. I am a radical centrist who MIGHT have voted for Romney as Governor of MA but not the charlatan who made it through the Republican primaries...forget the "five" (unnamed) studies...read (REALLY READ) the Tax Policy Center (nonpartisan) report on Romney's plan...it is sad how it doesn't work...at all
If you listened to the debate on CSPAN radio yesterday - my vote goes to Senator Brown.
I agree any individual that signs a "pledge" period should be disqualified from running for office. That clearly states that you don't represent the 100% of Americans or your local citizens. You are already beholden to an individual or corporation - in other words you are a bought candidate or official. Plan an simple people.
I will second Self Educated Voter's comments on the pledge; it is a disqualifying factor since it removes the possibility of responding to 100% of the voters.
Additionally, I am sick and tired of hearing Republicans claim some form of independence when they vote the party line at least 98% of the time. There is one rule in the modern Republican Party, and that is "fall in line or get defeated in the next primary." This places party above people, which is only slightly worse than placing rhetoric above reality (a problem in both parties).
Josh Mandel? Seriously??
Sherrod Brown would have a much harder time beating Howie Mandel!
And Howie won't even shake hands!!
Ken,,,
Interest or the cost of money is a huge expense to any business and today the cost of money is 20% of fair market value.
Companies hire when they need work done. Work needs to be done when products and services are being sold.
Companies are hesitant to bring things to market when actual costs are not known, or worse yet cannot be determined.
Why on earth would anyone vote for someone who's already signed an oath to a PERSON but yet is claiming to represent them????
Best of luck to Senator Brown!
Obama/Biden 2012
Did anyone get a glimpse of Mandel before he buried his face up Norquist's ass? Ohioans deserve to get at least one look at his mug before casting their ballot.
anybody have a copy of this pledge?
Or is it just a figment of your imagination?
Aw shucks Fat Man .. did you lose your little sidekick Jake?
I usually hate doing this for those unwilling to look things up for themselves but old fat guy, here it is right from the ATR itself.
www.atr.org/userfiles/Congressional_pledge(1).pdf
OFG - here a link to what is in the pledge as you can see as well on ATR website.
#Taxpayer_Protection_Pledge
Watch this race closely. This will be the test case for if money can buy an election. Rove and other out of state Republican groups have funneled a hell of a lot of money into beating Brown. Right now polls say tat Brown is 4 ahead. If he losses then the case that money can buy an election becomes more plausible.
For reference Brown has been outspent by about 6 to 1 by Mandel, Rove, and other out of state super pacs.
End the Fed
One of Mandel's first hires was the then-26-year-old Joe Aquilino, who emerged from his role as political director during the 2010 treasurer's race to become director of debt management at a salary of $90,000 a year.
And this puke is going to change Washington?
Whew! $90,000, you claim! You're mad Mandel didn't support the 50 billion dollar handout to GM to prop up their failed union business model, but you're also nitpicking an alleged $90,000 salary?
A little insight into the character and truthfulness of Josh Mandel.
Josh Mandel, in the 2010 Ohio State Treasurer's race, promised to serve out the entire four-year term as treasurer before running for another office. Fourteen months after taking office in January 2011, Josh decided to run for the office of Senator in May 2012.
And how about this "promise" of his?
“I will ensure that my staff is comprised of qualified financial professionals — rather than political cronies and friends…”
- Josh Mandel, October 2010
But instead, Josh Mandel did the opposite — filling the treasurer's office with his friends and cronies.
Michael Lord, Josh Mandel's 27-year-old former campaign manager, got a taxpayer-funded salary of $100,000.
Seth Metcalf, Josh Mandel's college buddy, was paid $150,000 in the treasurer's office.
Joe Acquilino, Josh Mandel's 26-year-old former campaign aide, was named Director of Debt Management and paid $90,000 — even though he had no experience in finance, and had to be sent to a beginner's course in the subject he was in charge of overseeing.
It's not about "nitpicking an alleged $90,000 salary" -- it's about integrity.
Like Mandel said he is not a bailout canidate which means he would of let auto industries go down the tubes. We all know the auto industry is the reason Ohio is coming back!
17 out of 24 statements politifact found mandel lying.
He can't be trusted.
Funny thing those FACTS -
Scary how many Americans are going to vote against their own interest just becasue they hate the other guy for no good reason other than a (D) instead of an (R) - it is like shooting ones self in the foot then complaining about the pain.
End citizens united and the rich buying our country like Romney. Romney couldn't create jobs when governor but the rich are spending their money to convince you that suddenly Romney and the republicans knows how to govern.
Romney is not even honest enough to show us his tax returns. Romney is suppost to be the great businessman but hides his taxes and how he made so much money from the public.
The republicans are just trying to pass off another con job. They ran on jobs in 2010 and then the republicans just voted against jobs for our returning veterans.
But elect Romney and magically the republicans are going to care about jobs and America again. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
If you liked how bush left our country then vote for Romney as he has hired most of bush's old advisers and plans on bringing the good old bush day back as they were such a success for the rich. Bush was a failure so the republicans are hiding bush and bringing back all his policies with Romney.
A vote for a republican is a vote to make sure America has another bigger and deeper recession so the rich can have more tax cuts.
VOTE FOR WOMEN'S FREEDOM...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012
the year- 2034; today it was revealed that in the 2012 Presidential Election was the first successful corporate merger with a government entity at a nation-wide level in our industries short, but very profitable near-history! The then known as a "hostile takeover" of what once was the "United States of America" by our Great Leader, and father of the current "Chairman for Life" Tag the First, corporate legend and first "Chairman for Life" Mitt I, ushering in the the streamlining of business and government into what we call the "Corporated States of America", aka CSA (note: hummm).
Reports show that in a screwed forward thinking move, Mitt Romney hid 95% of his assets and wealth prior to announcing his run for office. He had learned a valuable lesson from his fathers run for President- being good, or honest, or taking a principled stand got you zip, nada! No, the lesson was that which would be the driving force in Mitt's life from then on, and the birth of our new nation's motto - "money talks, bull@!$%# walks". First step was "Citizens United" ruling allowing untold hundreds of millions of dollars to be funneled to our glorious Great Leader's run at office. this of course is nothing news worthy on its own- every school child knows the story of how the "Chairman" was able to use this "new" law to finally rid the country of those radical, underground LIBERALS! No, today we found out how truly great our beloved "Chairman" really was- it was his own money- he "brought" the whole DAMM thing!! All the news, all the voting machines, all of the polls...he controlled it all!! Historians rank it above FDR's allowing Pearl Harbour to be bombed on a very short list of "President's willing to do what needed to be done, laws and precedent be damm!" club.
Of course this is fiction- but THINK about how much somebody would have to make to have packed away 100 million in a 401k... and then say to yourself..DID MITT OVER STATE HIS 401K, OR DID HE UNDER STATE HIS NET WORTH??
The decline of Ohio. In 1860, it had an equivalent of 43 electoral votes today. In 1980, it dropped to 26. In 2008, it had only 20. In 2010, it dropped another two to 18. Ohio is not the big prize it once was.
18 is still 18......people just need to know on dec 31st republican trickle-down economics will finally end, creating millions of new jobs and return to balanced budgets like in the 90's(Clinton) so that 18 is more important than ever!
Obama/Biden 2012
15 is still 15. 10 is still 10. 30 is still 30. You must be a math major. LOL
BTW, the Obama followers have been touting trickle-down for the last three years, pointing to the Dow as a sign of prosperity. We're waiting.
Actually, I did really well in college.....and my father was a nuclear physics prof. (not sure what you're going on about)?18 electoral votes is very important to the end result of an Obama win. If robme makes it close god help us....
First of all, pointing to 1860 as the start of the decline of Ohio is silly. For perspective, there were 33 states in 1860. Fifteen of them were slave states. Yeah, let's go back to the "good old days"...not sure your point is all that compelling
In terms of "trickle down", you are kidding, right? Trickle down was a term used by Reagan that was (wrongly) taken from the teachings of Hayek. What Obama is talking about is the OPPOSITE of trickle down-increasing the taxes on the wealthiest to pay their fair share (a "radical" view" shared by people like Adam Smith). The increase in the Dow and corporate profits while unemployment lingers around 8% (where it hit in January 2009 after rising over 60% the previous year under Bush-unemployment and debt are lagging indicators of stagnant growth) is proof of the OPPOSITE of what you are saying
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts-Bernard Baruch
Obama didn't bail out the Auto Industry, he bailed out the Union's, better known as his donor buddies. The stock holders, specifically the preferrede stock holders, lost everything. This President had no business sticking his nose in their business. He should have let them go bankrupt and restructure, the way Federal bankruptcy was intended. What Obama did was illegal, like many of his mandates. He will not be missed, by this writer.
Over one million workers, managers, and executives disagree with you, not to mention most of America. There wasn't enough private capital investment money available to bail out a rowboat at the time. These are corporations, not a bunch of guys hanging out building stuff together. Where do you get your misinformation and ludicrous, half baked view of corporations?
Affinity, you can blather all you want but 90 million Americans agree with me. They will be the ones that vote this weak President out of office. Padding the Union's was protectionalism at the highest level. The greedy Union's created the problem and they were totally protected. What about the mom and pop pension plans that invested billions in preferred stocks. They did so because they were assured they were protected creditors, in a bankruptcy. But no, Obama had to protect the bribers he serves. The mom and pop's lost everything. He is bad for the economy and he is bad for America. Period!
The shareholders were out in the cold, government bailout or not. The reason you save the UAW is the worker capital is as important to the saving of GM as the factories. Also, the way the new deal is structured, the workers have a much more direct stake in the future of the company than just working for a paycheck. That was missing previously, and one of the reasons GM went down the crapper.
Dave D. You overestimate the numbers of people who "agree with you". I agree with Affinity and I dare say the folks still working at GM and all of their Suppliers and sub-cons who support GM (along with Ford and Chrysler/Fiat) would not agree with you either. Take off the blinders, son. You're looking like the lone stranger.
Mandel is another billionaires' puppet candidate. Fat cats can actually buy Republicans their candidates and pay to market them. If elected, they go to Washington to work for their owners, not the voters. Republicans are the worst congress members money can buy. Who needs an organ grinder's monkey to feed?
Affinity,
Unlike Democrats, right?
Democrat Obama has over 4 million donors, not 10 billionaires. Keep off the grass roots and worship your Republican sugar daddies. The Republican base is too poor or stingy to support their party.
Affinity, ...Correct, the republican taliban's theory of keeping them broke, bare foot, pregnant, in the kitchen and ignorant isn't paying off too well for them.
Sherrod Brown's a Radical Far Left extremist. The Dems like him and their "great success" in handing 50 billion to GM are so comical.....GM's still alive and all we had to do was hand them 50 billion dollars that we didn't have! What a success story!
And GM is heading right back down the drain, losing like $40 G's on every Chevy Volt and only selling 13,000 a year?
Any business would still be alive with 50 billion dollars handed to them 3 years ago. Montgomery Ward's, Atari, you name it---they could have survived with 5 billion in handouts, much less 50.
Let me enlighten your ignorance. GM paid back the loan with interest. The government made a profit. You can't say enough bad things about America and capitalism to attract a following. Are you just naturally depressed about living in the United States or are you a die-hard from a former Soviet country?
And how about those two wars put on a credit line from China and downturn caused by this deregulation and Barney Franks nonsense. Without a bail out the world faced a Great Depression and we still are not out of the woods yet. I would have rather seen a break up of big banks and harder regulations on Wal Street like get us back to Glass Stegall law and boring banking not investment scams. Finally throw some CEO's in jail since they knew what they were doing.
No they didn't. GM Stock has to get back to like $38 a share for us to make money.
Much of our investment was by buying their junk stock.
Let me enlighten you.
"Right now, the federal government owns 500,000,000 shares of GM, or about 26% of the company. It would need to get about $53.00/share for these to break even on the bailout, but the stock closed at only $20.21/share on Tuesday. This left the government holding $10.1 billion worth of stock, and sitting on an unrealized loss of $16.4 billion."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/
Failed Companies Bailed out by Liberals: don't buy, don't buy
Chesty, the government didn't buy ANY GM stock. The government was given stock in the new GM as collateral for the loans that allowed them to remain in business. Without those loans GM(and Chrysler too) would be out of business today and America would have ONE native auto company, Ford. That would have been an economic disaster for the US. But I guess you don't care about your country, unlike the great Marine whose name you have hijacked.
chesty: trying to earn your paid fox troll check, I see. Give it up and slink on back to the right wing echo chamber. Your nonsense is too know among people who think.
Anyone advocating the bankruptcy of the auto companies and running for office in Ohio is not right in the head.
Totally, agree.
Anyone advocating the bailout of the failed GM union model is not right in the head.
The taxpayers are taking it on the chin, and GM is heading for bankruptcy again, because they didn't smash the unions like they had to, and would have in a real bankruptcy proceeding.
The US owns 26% of GM stock. The company must reach $53/share for us to break even on our handout to the unions. Today the stock price is $20/share.
It is obvious you are one who votes against his personal interests.
Good luck!
Chesty sounds like someone who has been screwed over by a company or two during his life and was probably in no position then to argue and now wants all workers to suffer the same fate by advocating for the "smashing" of unions. Pretty typical of those who have always been at the mercy of their masters, oops, employers all their working lives.
I don't trust Mandel at all. I watched when he got called out about not showing up to work, and "attempt" to answer to his misuse of his office. Mandel is a liar, and all of the "facts" that he has pulled up on Brown are false. I'm a registered Independent and WON'T be voting for Mandel.
Joe Manchin is NO DEM. He's a REP in DEM's clothing. He's a planted official from the right.
I agree. You should not vote for Manchin in W. Virginia. Let the Republican win.
These Senators should remember they represent the interests of the State, not the party.
I am sick of this clean coal crap, not such thing, they blow up mountain tops and pollute the water and streams. We have the technology to create a new transition to green power and concepts. The status quo will constantly put fear into you about green jobs. Yes free trade hurt us but if we eliminated taking our jobs overseas for cheap labor a green technology is possible. Wouldn't you rather be working into this new exciting field. Watch PBS Frontline this week on climate change and who is putting the money into scaring you that it is not real.
No thanks, we know coal and gas and oil work, and we know the $90 billion Obama blew on green energy was a complete failure.
When green energy can stand on its own 2 legs, great. Until then, drop dead.
Chesty---------------------------Y F O S. Oil & Gas will run out. Solar never will [as long as there is a sun]. Bravo to President Obama for paving the way for green energy. To hell with the Republicans for still suckiling the oil companies tit.
Agreed. "Clean Coal" is a myth and I have not heard anyone explain whether "fracking" is included in the myth. Yes, there were failed investments in green energy and if it were easy it would have been done. But Obama's "anything but oil" strategy for alternate energy is the best thing for our national security and will decrease our reliance on the middle east.
Further, we worry about leaving our children debt but not a ruined country and world ecologically? It's OK to have a clean balance sheet at the expense of clean air and clean water? Not good enough...cue the barrage of climate deniers and coal supporters (and btw, coal can be part of the solution, but PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by telling us increased drilling and increased "clean" mining is a sustainable long term solution)...
Thank you Ken, 60's vet, Skypilot for bringing this up! Fracking is still an experiment, a new field never before used, bringing this much up this way from under our fragile tectonic plate is, like deep water wells something new. We have a huge gas bubble under us in the eastern USA, the Marcellus. All of these words and terms are new to many lay people who live in the Midwest and eastern states. We have had numerous earthquakes where they just do not happen in this region and recently in Texas near these operating wells.
"In the region surrounding Youngstown in northeastern Ohio, where the boom is in full swing, seismic instruments recorded nearly a dozen small quakes in 2011, with a magnitude-4.0 tremor reported December 31.
John Armbruster of Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, who's been studying seismic events and fracking in the Youngstown area for months, said Friday that it's "virtually certain" that an injection of fracking waste-water caused the New Year's Eve tremor.
Depending on its location, "any disposal well that's been pumping stuff into the ground for months can cause earthquakes," said Armbruster, who's studied earthquakes and drilling for 40 years." article at link below...
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/us/fracking-earthquakes/index.html
Also...
http://news.yahoo.com/unusual-dallas-earthquakes-linked-fracking-expert-says-181055288.html
But, after seeing a rise in sinkholes too, and worse, such as gas explosions...one wonders just what the seismic activity can lead to? Well, here is a scary scene...The door to Hell in the Karakum Desert. It has happened elsewhere, could it happen here? I have heard there is new leaking at the BP deep-water well also. I wouldn't be so fast about putting down clean green alternative free renewable wind and solar energy after taking a look at this! Can we say that prevention is the only cure?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2179622/The-Door-Hell-Giant-hole-Karakum-Desert-40-YEARS.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
We all know what happened with Solyndra. In one phrase, Made (cheaper) in China". Let's straighten out the facts of the accusations against President Obama once and for all about this...
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/nov/15/americans-prosperity/solyndra-ad-president-barack-obama-taxpayer-money/
Furthermore, do understand how desperate folks are to make a lot of money off of landowners as we speak...and what they are doing to get at it, like land grabbing! What good is having all that Mammon when the ground falls away below your feet and your water and air is poisonous? The thing I have noticed again and again about rwnutjobs and goperteepers is that they are great followers, fast takers, big promisers and talented bluffers, but lack the logic, know how or ethical decency to actually lead. Is this decent or fair? Case in point...
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/02/14183177-energy-firm-uses-land-grabs-to-secure-fracking-rights-from-reluctant-landowners?lite
OMG, we don't need any more tea baggers in congress!
Sherrod Brown is a hell of a good man and he'll chew Mandel up and spit him out. Mandel doesn't even belong on the same stage as Mandel [and his Tea Party girlie men]. ---from an -ex buckeye --GIVE EM' HELL SHERROD !!!
60's vet, if John Wayne were alive today and knew you were using his pic to promote communism, he would probably stomp your commie ass.
60's Veteran. Please change your pic. John Wayne was a coward, a hater of horses and women. He was so tough that he refused to go where the troops were for fear he might get hurt. Please read the stories about John Wayne. He definitely was not a hero, only a movie star.
Joe Thomas. If John Wayne were alive today he would run like hell away from any fight.
Sherrod Brown has been in government since 1974. That's right folks, 38 years. That is all I need to know. BTW, Sherrod Brown is an avowed communist. Look it up.
Real Clear Politics is consistently cited by both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS as a current source for reliable averaged polling data at every level of American politics.
Real Clear on Saturday reduced the number of total 'toss-up states' still in play at the national level from twelve to eleven, having returned Missouri to 'leaning Romney'.
As a result, the eleven states of Florida (FL), Pennsylvania (PA), Ohio (OH), North Carolina (NC), Michigan (MI), Virginia (VA), Colorado (CO), Wisconsin (WI), Iowa IO), Nevada (NV) and New Hampshire (NH) are the only states yet to be placed in either the Obama or Romney camps.
Beyond that, of the thirty-nine states no longer considered toss-up, Obama can lay claim with relative certainty to receiving 201 electoral votes to Romney's 191, with 270 winning the Presidency outright.
At present, with only 21 days left in the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama leads in eight of the eleven
remaining toss-up states and Romney leads in three.
In descending order of percentage of lead in favor of Obama, followed in ascending order of percentage of lead in favor of Romney, here are the averaged polling numbers from Real Clear Politics for Monday, October 15:
In PA, with 20 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 4.8%.
In MI, with 16 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 4.4%.
In IO, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 2.7%.
In WI, with 10 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 2.3%.
In OH, with 18 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 2.2%.
In NV, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 1.6%.
In VA, with 13 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 0.8%.
In NH, with 4 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 0.7%.
In CO, with 9 electoral votes, Romney's lead is 0.6%.
In FL, with 29 electoral votes, Romney's lead is 2.5%.
In NC, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is 4.7%.
For Obama to win re-election, the easiest route would appear to be through maintaining his existing lead in the five toss-up states where his current leads are widest: PA, MI, IO, WI, and OH. Doing so would bring his electoral vote total on Election Day to 271.
Should Obama lose the critically important and highly-contested toss-up state of OH, the loss could be overcome by simultaneous victories in two of the remaining toss-ups where he presently holds a narrow lead: VA and NV. This alternative non-OH route would bring his electoral vote to 272.
For Romney to unseat Obama, he not only would have to capture the three states in which he presently leads, NC, FL, and CO (bringing his electoral vote total to 244), but also steal victories in NH, VA, NV where Obama's current lead is most narrow (raising his total to 267), plus add one final victory in any single state from among the remaining five where Obama presently leads by his widest margins of 2.2% to 4.8%: OH, WI, IO, MI, or PA.
A tougher road for Romney to get to the White House, to be sure, but not an impossible task.
Backed by a mountain of cash - most of it from very wealthy persons as well as foreign corporations - are backing Mandell and he is still losing.
Looks like all the righties are running from this guy.
What is it with people they can't understand where the auto industry would be if it hadn't been for the Obama rescue? Coal, has anyone seen the new ads that Google has added to its map of planet earth? The one that shows all the surface mining being done? Is that actually good for us or would Zero Point Energy be something we should look into more? Its working for me 25% of my home is off the grid.
Romney likes drilling, big oil giant; he is also friends of many foreign corporates, for his offshore bank accounts have told the voters; he is against green, clean, cheap energy, but he loves oil.
Romney loves to embrace foreign trade agreements, for he can make more money, but shutting down the job opportunities for USA people. He is also going to shut down more gocernment programs, but please do not blame God for any accidents.