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Subscribe to RSSThe day after a vice presidential debate remarkable for its rhetorical pyrotechnics, Joe Biden was still at it.
Calling opponent Rep. Paul Ryan "a decent guy" for whom he has "great respect," the vice president nonetheless blasted his counterpart's debate remarks on abortion and the "negative" attitude he says the Republican ticket has towards the future of the country.
"I've never seen two candidates for the highest office in the land who are more negative about this country and its prospects than the people we're running against," Biden said at a campaign rally at the University of Wisconsin, La Crosse.
The vice president -- who, like Ryan, is Catholic -- took particular aim at Ryan's response to moderator Martha Raddatz's questioning on abortion, accusing his opponent of failing to separate his church's teachings from Americans' rights.
"Congressman Ryan made it very clear that he and Gov. Romney are prepared to impose their private views on everyone else," he said. "It was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. It was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body."
Biden also knocked Republicans for attempting to block federal funding for Planned Parenthood, "which under law can not perform any abortions." While Planned Parenthood is prohibited from allocating federal funding for abortion, the organization does offer abortion services in addition to contraceptive and preventative health care for women.
Linking the GOP ticket's domestic policies to Ryan's remarks on the possibility of keeping American soldiers in Afghanistan beyond a hard 2014 deadline, Biden also charged Ryan with changing his views on basic issues day-to-day.
"When asked, 'do you guarantee you'll get out,?' [Ryan] said, it depends," Biden said as students jeered the Ryan statement. "Like almost everything, it depends. It depends on which day you ask him the question!"
The Romney camp responded that Biden's message today continued the "dishonest attacks" lobbed by the Obama team yesterday.
"Just like during last night’s debate, Vice President Biden was unable to describe any vision for the future and used dishonest attacks and distortions to distract from his failed record," wrote Romney spokesman Ryan Williams in a statement.
Biden — who gently chastised students who booed Ryan's name but noted that "I hardly agree with anything he says" — was Thursday night criticized by some observers for being overly aggressive in the feisty debate. His frequent laughter and exaggerated gestures of incredulity grabbed the attention of seasoned journalists and internet meme-generators alike.
But the vice president told an audience of hundreds that the boisterous contest merely illustrated the stark differences between the two camps.
"[For] anyone who watched that debate," he said. "I don’t think there’s any doubt that, Congressman Ryan and I and Gov. Romney and the President ... have a fundamentally different vision for America. And quite frankly, a fundamentally different value set."
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Joe is like a brother to Barack..this kind of brotherhood is healthy for this great nation - there is friedship...there is someone who has your back..
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The lowest unemployment rate (Oct. 5) in 4 years;
the lowest foreclosures filings in 4 years...
the lowest jobless claim in 4 years..
Consumer sentiment jumps to 5-year high (Oct. 12 data)..
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what's so great about the lowest unemployment rate on Oct. 5 is that the data destroyed any momentum for Mitt after his supposed strong showing on Oct. 3 debate.
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My sense is the same as Bubba, who sai
Keep pounding away Joe!
cont. from #1:
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My sense is the same as Bubba, who said R-Money's first debate was not that good... due to all the falsehood coming from his Tea Potty Mouth of Mitt the Congenital Liar (Mitt, that is).
Correction to #1:
'Joe is like a brother to Barack..this kind of brotherhood is healthy for this great nation - there is friendship...there is someone who has your back.."
Tweet, TOD:
U.S. Budget Deficit shrinks to 4 year low. It's now much smaller than it was when Pres. Obama took office.
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Joe Biden, you and the president have done a tremendous job. We're as angry as you are that the other two candidates continue to lie lie lie. We're as angry as you are that the other two candidates are going to bring back the GWB policies. We are as angry as you are that the other two candidates are going to bow down to the teaparty gang if they get in.
and btw, Think Progress:
During last night’s debate, Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan told 24 lies during his 40 minutes of speaking time. But in one instance, he was aided by debate moderator Martha Raddatz, who asserted that Social Security “is going broke”.
RADDATZ: Let’s talk about Medicare and entitlements. Both Medicare and Social Security are going broke and taking a larger share of the budget in the process. Will benefits for Americans under these programs have to change for the programs to survive?
RYAN: Absolutely. Medicare and Social Security are going bankrupt. These are indisputable facts.
The media consistently fuel the misconception that Social Security is bankrupt or going broke, whipping itself into a frenzy of doomsday scenarios and asking politicians when they will deal with this supposedly grave threat to the U.S. budget. However, Social Security can pay full benefits until 2037, and nearly full benefits for years after that, even if literally nothing is done to change the program. Reporters would surely be shocked if infrastructure projects, child nutrition programs, or any other federal effort were fully funded for more than two decades, but no credit is given to lawmakers for achieving just that with Social Security.
As Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has said, “Social Security has not added a single penny, not a dime, a nickel, a dollar to the budget problems we have. Never has. And for the next 30 years, it won’t do that.”
But Ryan consistently raises alarm about the program in an effort to promote his desire to privatize it entirely. In this instance, Raddatz helped him spread his misinformation with her abysmal framing of the question.
That's only because Obama keeps on trying to get Biden to join the Muslim Brotherhood.
Some brother.
Give 'em hell Joe!
Amen to that!
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Brianb1956
your statement is as idiotic as this one: Paul Ryan is one of Romney's sister wives.
Pigotry: Why is it I wonder that the media never talks about the good the Obama Administration has accomplished?
They started literally at ground level in 1/09. Nothing was in order when they got in. Nothing.
What has happened to the media? Why do they always give the GOP a free pass when the Republican Party has literally done nothing that resembles competence in years and years?
hahahaha..
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hhhahahahahaha
Bayllie...I am all tears.... you crack me up... hearty laughter is the best dessert after dinner... inspired by Joe and his hearty laughs last night...
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hahhahahahahhahahahhahahahaahahahahaha
bayllie
Brianb1956
your statement is as idiotic as this one: Paul Ruan is one of Romney's sister wives.
That's only because your anger won't allow you to see any comedy in anything... you are so stuck up a loser's tush, I can understand your anger.. hard to breathe in there...
Pat Boston MA. said:
Pigotry: Why is it I wonder that the media never talks about the good the Obama Administration has accomplished?
They started literally at ground level in 1/09. Nothing was in order when they got in. Nothing.
You owe me a new computer screen Pat... and I demand payment... what you said made me spray my entire gulp of coke all over my desk top and the acid is eating away at my LCD. The media have been lapdogs for Obama since 2006. They hooked onto his wagon and have moved to the front and are now pulling it.
Hi, Pat Boston MA:
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well..the media..oh, boy..it's complex..first of all...they have to sell stuff...so they cater to the basest of instincts of some people...it's a sales pitch..so they have to be mean-spirited sometimes.
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BTW, how is Liz Warren doing ...in kicking the centerfolder boy's butt (MA senate race)?
Height of hypocrisy!! Romney spokesman accusing V-P Biden of "dishonest attacks and distortions".
This AFTER Mitt Romney's "debate" was one giant deception/attack from his side - from start to finish.
Romney was MAJORLY, HISTORICALLY, DISHONEST at the debate. He reamed it all off, as memorized.
The media praised Romney for bullying and lying.
Pigotry, she's doing well. Nonstop ads from both campaigns on tv & radio. But she seems to be getting tons and tons of support here.
Scott Brown goes after her because of her heritage. Can you imagine if she had posed in a magazine the way Scott Brown did?
We need more women of substance in office like Elizabeth. We really do.
I've seen Scott Brown around quite a bit in the past few months. I think he's going to lose.
Backhouse, the media love to say that we love to blame the media.
They are dishonest. Or stupid. Can't decide which. However, what I do think is they don't care about the direction of our country.
President Obama has done an outstanding job and they really don't care.
When you have a morning guy sitting there on the set depressed because the job #'s were good, that's a sign that they aren't interested in what's best for the country.
Yet Keith is the one that's gone. Tells you something, doesn't it?
Biden cleaned "CUPCAKE" Ryan's clock for all America to see !
Yeah...Republicans always get away with things others can't.. When the GOP represents the rich, they will have privileges.
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Pat Boston MA. says...
Scott Brown [the centerfolder boy and the NAKED GUN for hire] goes after her because of her heritage. Can you imagine if she had posed in a magazine the way Scott Brown did?
Pat hi,
You know, I rarely say much about that. But this time, what really matters is the importance of a presidential election, and the fact that Romney cannot even produce sufficient tax returns! He doesn't qualify, no way.
Yes, this time it matters. Romney should have been called out on his chronically dishonest and disrespectful debate showing - NOT PRAISED.
They are saying what - about the V-P?
No comparison at all with Romney's showing. None.
Where's the salt?
Pat: I hope I am wrong, but the media is not dishonest or stupid; but scared. GOP in power you might have your license pulled, MSNBC screws up and they are gone. Also the cable companies can not to be offended. Advertisers are an other factor.
4 more 4 44
About abortion...Mitt donated to the Planned Parenthood before..
and...where is that offensive and Childish Toddler (Todd) Akin... is he still breathing? or is he planning to commit a 'legi rape' ..himself
Hey Joe!
This is Paul Ryan's mother.
I want you to give little Paulie his lunch money back. You know, the lunch money you took from him last night.
I know I'm one the media would point to and say - oh her, she's just an Obamabot. She just blames the media when things go bad.
It's not true. My concern is for the country and it would be devastating to have Romney and Ryan in there.
We have made so many gains since Obama came to office. In every single aspect.
The Republicans blew this country up.
I hate to see what would happen to America if the teaparty gang takes over. It's almost impossible to digest.
And to think we thought at one time that our media was honest.
Those days are gone.
Compliments of the Reverend Al; No Hidin from Biden! lmao!
GFY little BB!
Who the HELL are YOU to demand anything, you helpless keyboard warrior?
I'm sure your kids are proud of their old man who can't support them!
Rather then actually looking for a JOB, their dead-beat daddy, flexes his little beer muscles in a political chat room, trying EVER so hard to be pertinent! lmfao!
Didn't Romney pay for some contract or something for his son that if the mother of his child became seriously ill during pregnancy, she had permission from the Romney son to seek an abortion? Or if something was deemed wrong with the child?
I can't remember exactly.
But wasn't Mitt involved in this approval of an abortion should something not seem quite right during the pregnancy?
Backhouse, that's today's media.
No matter what the GOP puts out there - the media will cover it and repeat it over and over and over.
But they won't cover all the good the Obama Admin. has accomplished in such a short time. This administration had to literally change the entire system.
Yet what do we get? Biden was too aggressive or Biden laughed too much.
With any luck, your moniter is really broken and we will see the end of your sorry pathetic ass!
Hey Feisty, I have him on ignore so missed the comment. New computer screen?
haha.
GFY little BB!
Who the HELL are YOU to demand anything, you helpless keyboard warrior?
I'm sure your kids are proud of their old man who can't support them!
Rather then actually looking for a JOB, their dead-beat daddy, flexes his little beer muscles in a political chat room, trying EVER so hard to be pertinent! lmfao!
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Beautifully put - Love Ya Feist....LMAO...
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Pat,
I may have to follow your lead!
This sniveling snot who sucks off the same system he rails against, it getting too be a bit much! ;o)
Efff him and his "demands"!
I LOVE YOU too GT!
I don't suffer
fools@!$%#s lightlyTotal Federal Debt +52%
Household Income down 5%
Family Income down 5%
6.4 million more people in poverty
Food stamp recipients +46%
Gas Prices +106%
1,497 soldiers lost in Afganistan
Middle East in an uproar
The worst period of partisanship in modern times
These are not gains. These are examples of going backwards.
Candice - Tell it to "W". That's where it all started.....
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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Pat,
I may have to follow your lead!
Is that a promise? Really? Please put me on IGNORE dumfux. PLEASE!!!!!
This way I can say what I want about you in front of everyone else and you won't read it.. this way I can avoid your sniveling nasty remarks.
NO WAY - you ignorant little dumb @!$%#!
Nothing I enjoy more than bitch slapping YOU at every turn!
Get a JOB you parasite & stop bleeding my tax dollars dry!
Go tuck your kids in, and tell them what a dead-beat YOU ARE!
GT-2021701
GFY little BB!
Who the HELL are YOU to demand anything, you helpless keyboard warrior?
I'm sure your kids are proud of their old man who can't support them!
Rather then actually looking for a JOB, their dead-beat daddy, flexes his little beer muscles in a political chat room, trying EVER so hard to be pertinent! lmfao!
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Beautifully put - Love Ya Feist....LMAO...
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O&Joe 2012I know dumfux started this off... She knows so much about my life, my surroundings.. and what I do... its as if she is a boil on my @$$.... Only difference is... she's a laugh in my gut. Tell me dumfux... how many children do I have... how old are they? Are they boys or girls? What are their favorite foods? How old am I dumfux? How old are my children? How many pets do I own... and what are they if I own them? Where do I live... Do I own, or do I rent? What type of vehicle(s) do I own? What's my favorite color?
See dumfux, you really don't know anything, do you but you act like you do. Not very smart, are you? Get that motor running, start the lips moving... or in this case, your fingers... say anything you like... but prove everytime that what you say is full of sh!t. You don't know if I am working or not... and you really don't care either... and that's OK.. just as long as you can completely make a fool out of yourself each and everytime your name goes up on the board... Please put me on ignore... I'm bored of you... and your lying liberal comments.
We will all know how the VP debate went in the next few days.
Biden did see somewhat off as Obama did prior. Image counts in the election.
How would you characterize the body language of Joe Biden last night? Not like someone under control.
Hi, GT
It all got worse after "W". President Obama was supposed to fix it.
Candice..you obviously had the last word in this debate here...
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uh..sorry, it's me now - having the last word in this
Brianb1956
don't worry about my sense of humor, brianb, I laught at the majority of your posts.
person who tells me I'm angry, writes this...interesting.
Why is it that no one ever mentions in their assertions that Social Security is solvent until 2037, that for the next 20 years baby boomers will be retiring? That means there will be fewer workers paying in and more retirees drawing benefits. 20 years from now is 2032. After that, the ratio between retirees and workers will start reversing towards more workers for fewer retirees. That in itself should extend the solvency of Social Security to some extent.
Hey, Heartlight3:
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U R insightful...but that's just inconvenient truth for the GOP, I guess - that's why they don't want to mention it.
And last night's Biden't traveling comedy show continues:
What? Mighty Joe Dumb knows the only tactics from the Obama administration is negative campaigning. When will the Obama campaign start running on their merits? ::chirp:: ::chirp:: ::chirp::
Brian,
I would have thought that was the perfect opening for you to defend your team by painting a glorious word picture of their love of this country and its citizens. Instead, true to Republican form, you turned it in to something negative about the President.
I watched the debate last night and heard Joe Biden stand up for me and everyone else in the country. Ryan stood up for one person . . . Romney.
Obama/Biden 2012
Layton-3733410
Brian,
I would have thought that was the perfect opening for you to defend your team by painting a glorious word picture of their love of this country and its citizens. Instead, true to Republican form, you turned it in to something about the President.
I watched the debate last night and heard Joe Biden stand up for me and everyone else in the country. Ryan stood up for one person . . . Romney.
Obama/Biden 2012You must have missed the out of control Biden... that snarling, laughing, lying show he put on. Do you know that Biden interrupted Ryan 81 times during the debate. Ryan interrupted Mighty Joe Dumb 0... got that? 0 times. Just Biden's rudeness alone gives him the award for most inconsiderate person in the country award.
I call the debate even... neither candidate won... and that's what I expected from the beginning... simply because the VP debate means nothing...
Brainless: Joe is not dumb. Strip away the steel mill, coal mining upbringing and you have a very intelligent man. Not seeing shows how dumb you are.
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Brainless: Joe is not dumb. Strip away the steel mill, coal mining upbringing and you have a very intelligent man. Not seeing shows how dumb you are.
Obama/Biden 2012You aren't speaking of Joe Gaffe, are you? A sure sign of intelligence.. open mouth, insert foot!
Ryan and Romney are the only ones I've heard mention the poor in this campaign and Vice President Biden finds the serious issues we're facing funny.
Joe certainly made it clear, as does the President repeatedly, he has no intention of considering the side of the Republicans if he (they) continue(s) in power.
I think he was standing up for maybe about 47%
Exactly WHEN?
Please post a reputable source for your claim...
Thanks in advance...
and the ignorance goes on..."planned parenthood...under law cannot perform abortions." the buffoon doesn't make gaffes, he doesn't know what he is talking about. another of obama's bad decisions.
VP Debate: Ryan:
(On Medicare) “Choose your plan, and then Medicare subsidizes your premiums, not as much for wealthy people, more coverage for middle income people and total out of pocket coverage for the poor and the sick”
“We’re heading in the wrong direction, 23 million Americans are struggling for work today, 15 percent of Americans are living in poverty today. This is not what a recovery looks like. “
“Help the people who are hurting get the skills they need to get the jobs they want”.
“We want everybody to succeed. We want to get people out of poverty, in the middle class, onto a life of self sufficiency. We believe in opportunity and upward mobility.”
Vice President Biden didn't mention the poor once.
BrianB is another one of those that makes me wish there was a vote down arrow.
You're right Candice-
That 47% that Willard said " My job is not to worry about those people", and of course Ryan saying that 30% of the population are "takers"!
Guess that's your idea of mentioning the poor!.....Sad!
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BrianB
You calling somebody dumb, now that's funny.
Did you hear Romney just converted to Islam while visiting a Detroit suburb? Anything to get a vote.
Did you hear Ryan wants to outlaw abortion?
Did you hear Romney interrupt the moderator last week in order to get the last word in a segment of last debate, breaking the agreed upon rules of debate?
Did you hear how Ryan is going to change Medicare into a voucher program?
Did you hear Romney is converting to Baptist while campaigning in Virginia? Anything to get a vote.
Normally, I don't post like this, but BrianB inspired me.
What? Mighty Joe Dumb knows the only tactics from the Obama administration is negative campaigning.
Brian - The campaigning from the Romney side is not negative? What are you, @!$%#ing retarded?
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GT-2021701
What? Mighty Joe Dumb knows the only tactics from the Obama administration is negative campaigning.
Brian - The campaigning from the Romney side is not negative? What are you, @!$%#ing retarded?
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O&Joe 2012Only to a liberal that can't see past Obama's hind quarters. But I really don't care what liberals think of me... I've never come across such a group of disenchanted, angry people in my life. I do know why they are so angry though... somewhere deep inside of them they realize they are backing a loser... even if Obama wins the election, the loser will make losers out of all of us... including liberals.
I've never come across such a group of disenchanted, angry people in my life.
Brian - You're obviously talking about the Tea Party, right?
And himself ....
GT-2021701
I've never come across such a group of disenchanted, angry people in my life.
Brian - You're obviously talking about the Tea Party, right?
No, actually the people I've met and associate with in the Tea Party are very polite, not angry like the liberals... but don't take no BS from them either. Tea Party people have learned to overlook the whims of the angry liberals... They don't congregate in parking lots, defecate on people's lawns, in parking lots, break windows of merchants... You know, like Occupy does... that champion group of well behaved (s) citizens that needed rape rooms for women in their venues...
No, actually the people I've met and associate with in the Tea Party are very polite, not angry like the liberals.
Brian -
No, actually their a bunch of ignorant gun tottin fear mongers who, if they had their way, would unwittingly destroy this nation.
Nazi Germany was a good example of what people like that are capable of. And when its over, they would be the one's whining that they didn't know it could come to this. RWNJ's never change, they just change moniker's.....
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GT-2021701
No, actually the people I've met and associate with in the Tea Party are very polite, not angry like the liberals.
Brian -
No, actually their a bunch of ignorant gun tottin fear mongers who, if they had their way, would unwittingly destroy this nation.
Nazi Germany was a good example of what people like that are capable of. And when its over, they would be the one's whining that they didn't know it could come to this. RWNJ's never change, they just change moniker's.....
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O&Joe 2012And you can say this because you personally know how many Tea Party members? You would actually tell this to someone's face? I doubt it very much... you are as much of a coward as they come. Calling people names on a computer screen... saying they are this.. or they are that... while hiding behind your keyboard where you are safe. Not only are you an angry liberal, you are a cowardly angry liberal...
You would actually tell this to someone's face?
I tell it too their faces all the time, little "Keyboard Warrior". !!!LOL!!!
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O&Joe 2012
Tea Party/ Brown Shirts; and what did their hero do for them. Lucky ones received a quick death. History repeats.
4 more for 44
GT-2021701
You would actually tell this to someone's face?
I tell it too their faces all the time, little "Keyboard Warrior". !!!LOL!!!
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O&Joe 2012You have about as much credibility as a liberal can carry with them... none!
At last night's debate you heard Rep. Ryan confirm that American boots will hit the ground in Syria if Romney is elected and he decides he is concerned about chemical weapons. Those American boots will be filled by the feet of our sons and daughters.
and thank the Good Lord we Americans are willing to stand up for what's right.
skip1
At last night's debate you heard Rep. Ryan confirm that American boots will hit the ground in Syria if Romney is elected and he decides he is concerned about chemical weapons. Those American boots will be filled by the feet of our sons and daughters.
Yeah right... at what moment in the debate did he say for certain that they would be putting troops in Syria? That would NOT be Ryan's call...
Since you are on the side of protecting our all volunteer military, why aren't you demanding the withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan? What is the current mission over there... Obama doesn't know...
Yeah right... at what moment in the debate did he say for certain that they would be putting troops in Syria? That would NOT be Ryan's call...
Your right, That's just a talking point they use to excite their RWNJ base.
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O&Joe 2012
American boots will be filled by the feet of our sons and daughters.
Not Romney's sons
GT-2021701
Yeah right... at what moment in the debate did he say for certain that they would be putting troops in Syria? That would NOT be Ryan's call...
Your right, That's just a talking point they use to excite their RWNJ base.
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O&Joe 2012We learned it from the liberals.
Was Joe off his meds? Rather rude man who told a few woppers during his time on the clock.
Even the CNN news team commented negatively on the Biden conduct.
Didn't Paul look more presidential than Mr. Biden?
safecracker - funny everyone else was commenting on the lies Ryan continued to tell and talked about how he tried to talk over Martha Raddatz. You really need to listen more.
And, no, Ryan looked like a petulant child who just got schooled. Pathetic!
Obama/Biden 2012
Didn't Paul look more presidential than Mr. Biden?
NO. In fact I think he looks a bit goofy.
Great - he looks like Gomer Pyle - really!!!!
Obama/Biden 2012
Unlike you, I don't feel our leaders need to be medicated into banal mediocrity! I saw a man passionate about his job and frankly it refreshing to see a leader express his opinions openly and un-scripted! I saw a man deeply frustrated the vague flip-flopping of the Romney Ryan ticket! VP Biden is candid and most fact checkers found him to be largely factual. No, Mr. Ryan didn't look more presidential, someday maybe, but he's not ready for prime time yet!
Didn't Paul look more presidential than Mr. Biden?
NO! He looked like the lying little twerp that he is....
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SeekingSanity said:
safecracker - funny everyone else was commenting on the lies Ryan continued to tell and talked about how he tried to talk over Martha Raddatz. You really need to listen more.
And, no, Ryan looked like a petulant child who just got schooled. Pathetic!
Obama/Biden 2012You are referring to the everyone else as all liberal, right? Make the distinction before you go and include me in your madness.
Factcheck, factcheck, factcheck... You might want to learn how to read it.
Brianb - you might want to learn to read - period!
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"Didn't Paul look more presidential than Mr. Biden?"
Uhhhhh.....no. In fact, he didn't even look more VICE presidential. As far as that goes, he didn't even look very Congressional - oddly enough (or not) by his own request:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/10/sources-ryan-to-be-called-mister-not-congressman-at-138168.html
SeekingSanity
Brianb - you might want to learn to read - period!
Obama/Biden 2012<<<< I know enough how to read to do this! Stick that up your nose and sniff on it.Brianb - totally childish!
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SeekingSanity
Brianb - totally childish!
Obama/Biden 2012Good come back... run out of ideas? Thought so.
Gee Brian...still haven't found gainful employment huh...it's not like you haven't had the opportunity, right?
It's not like you haven't had opportunities, right?
But I guess when you're holding out for a "management position", things can get a little slow.
Face it Brian, you jumped the shark ages ago.
Those not agreeing that Joe is a wack job need to see a shrink. That guy was on something, its like he smoked a joint and did a line both the way he was acting. Thats presidential?
Does it really matter what a candidate looks looks like? You have a voodoo docotr in the WH now. Abe was pretty homely.Who cares?
You leftys hate America please leave.
It's sure going to be an interesting 3 weeks.
Two more debates between Lil O and the Stormin Mormon...more time for the real story on Libya to come out into the light...more opportunities for Joe to put his foot in Obama's mouth...Biden was the Happy Fool last night...and even worse demonizing from the left.
America is in a world of hurt with our divisiveness. It's the worst I've seen in almost 30 years of voting, and frankly the blame lies at Obama's feet.
On Libya, Obama's sacrificed Hillary on his altar, and that should make Bill and Hil pretty upset. It takes quite a bit of gall to blame the State Dept, and not take an iota of responsibility.
Libya is going to take him down.
comonamerican - yes the divisiveness is horrible and the blame lies right at the feet of the Republicans in congress who took an oath - on day one of President Obama's term - to make him a one-term President - to hell with the country. They are a treasonous bunch and anyone who stands with them stands against the country.
Their loyalty oath is to Grover Norquist and I hope, in time, each is brough up on charges of treason
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What an interesting point of view.
America is in a world of hurt with our devisiveness. It's the worst I've seen in almost 30 years of voting, and frankly the blame lies at Obama's feet.
Common -
If you want to poke blame, look at that scum-bag Tea-Party, and the Obstructionist Tea-Bagger Congress. That's where the blame belongs. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to mention their "Koch Bro. and Norquist" handlers.
Obama cannot lead. He said change can only come from the outside, but what he should believe is that cooperation can only driven from the top. Obama has never tried to unify anyone. He can't do it.
And now he's throwing up smoke screens on Libya? He's not earned a second chance.
common- keep chanting the Republican lie. The obstructionists made sure he couldn't get things done. You have no one to blame but them. But, you don't want the truth just the GOP lie!
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If you love divisiveness, vote O.
If you want the country to work together to solve problems, vote Romney.
If you love divisiveness, vote O.
cummon - There's only divisiveness because the Right wing created it. Set in motion by their big money handlers.
If you want the country to work together to solve problems, vote Romney.
Solve problems? Such as, denying women their rights, gutting our entitlements, de-regulating everything that protects the people, throwing grandma under a bus, and worst of all creating an oligarchy so the conseratives can finally have their utopia.... Not a chance, "@!$%# Wad"......
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The right wing represented their voters, which is what they were elected to do. Perhaps if Obama had spent less time on social engineering, and more time fixing the economy, and spent even a little time trying to work with Republicans, he might have a chance of winning the election. Now though, not a snowball's chance in hades.
On Libya, the President looks to be placing the blame on the State Department and Secretary of State Clinton.
Obama took Hilary down and took the presidency from her. Now, Hilary's State Department looks in position to do serious damage to the administration and the President's re-election.
Karma.
Oh my GOD! So that's it! Candy old girl, you are another one with a Hillary crush.
"Obama took Hillary down and took the Presidency from her.? Are you KIDDING me?
See Candy, there is this thing called the primary process where lots and lots of people go vote and pick their preferred candidate.
And guess what, it wasn't Hillary!
Do take a class in Civics at your earliest convenience!
Funny how Repubs calling Biden "rude" cheered on Romney for being "aggressive".
The neoconservative loser crowd that provides foreign policy advice for Gov. Romney believes that Saddam Hussein hid his weapons of mass destruction in Syria. They were made to look like the fools that they are, and they want revenge.
skip1 - at the expense of how many more Amerian lives?
Obama/Biden 2012
Thank the Good Lord we still have Americans willing to stand up for what's right. The world is going to be a really bad place if Obama continues along his current path. If WMD gets loose, and/or Iran gets a nuke, major problems for America.
This prez's foreign policy approach to hotspots is to make the native citizens responsible for our safety. The big dummy. It's not working too well in Afghanistan, is it? It didn't work too well in Libya either, come to think of it.
The loss of one american life is too many, but that won't stop the neoconservative loser crowd that Gov. Romney takes advice from. They want a war. Now.
but today these neocons have disappeared, becoming ex-cons.
Nobody wants a war. I personally vote we send in Turkey, but the WMD's (if found), need to be retrieved by Americans.
Pigotry, give me a break. Obama and Biden are pre cons in that logic.
There aren't any WMD's. That's the point.
If WMD gets loose, and/or Iran gets a nuke, major problems for America.
Hey cummon - Did you take that straight from the "W" playbook? Remember Iraq?
Who knows if Syria has WMD? Certainly not Obama.
You surely can't honestly believe that if WMD did get loose in terrorist hands it would be a good thing. Do you? And if Iran gets a nuke, and closes the Strait of Hormuz, you think that would be good too? Really?
Way to go Joe! Little "Richie Rich" Ryan is a pathological liar, and has no sense of morality. Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! The Party of NO has got to GO! Little "Richie Rich" Ryan is a spoiled brat, with no concept of what the truth means. Little "Richie Rich" Ryan made the case that Social Security can never be privatized. By giving his own family stories! Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! The Party of NO has got to go! Get out the vote! So America can start to throw out the GOP/RNC "Poltical Trash!" That is fact!
The only people drinking last night were the Nazis over at the "Nazis News Head Quarters." AKA. Fox News. In the basement of Fox News is the "Crazy Conservative Chamber" of little "Darth Rove." AKA. Karl Rove. Who is brewing his own wicked bourbon in his "Chamber of Horrors."
I have to laugh at the Democrats that are spinning the truth. Now, the latest is that the unemployment rate is the best for the past four years, etc., etc. Big deal! Can you say that the economy is strong? Should we be happy with 7.8 percent? How stupid do you think Americans are? P.S. I also believe the number of people unemployed is actually higher because of those who gave up looking for nonexistent jobs and/or seasonal and part time employment, but in any event 7.8 is a joke. Does Biden laugh about that too? He shouldn't because he will join the unemployed number very soon.
Barrack Obama killed Osama Bin Laden, saved the Auto Industry, Stopped the War in Iraq, brought unemployment down to 7.8%. This country is producing more oil than ever before the oil fields are booming people can't find housing. The jobs are there. Lying Ryan got his butt kicked last night. Read this about Lying Ryan:
Courtesy of Daily
Kos,June 8, 2012
On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to
sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration. In
Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S.
House of Representatives"
Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with
GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law
Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.
Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
Sen. Bob Corker
(TN-R).Non-lawmakers present
Newt Gingrich
During the four
hour meeting: The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill
regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct
and block President Obama on all legislation.
Courtesy
of the National Journal, October 25, 2010
Senate minority
leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) "The single most important thing we want to
achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president
Vote Democrat
Proud Patriot
OH that's why it was reported that a record high number 46.37 million Americans are receiving food stamps,
GM's recent announcement that its building its new manufacturing plants in China while stopping production of several hybrid models assembled in this country,
Wells Fargo recently announced that its begun exporting it American jobs to India,
Campbells' Soup announced it is closing two plants down,
Mazda has shut down its only US production plant,
The postal system postponed its laying off 128,000 employees until after the election at Obama's request,
Obama is using seasonal temportary hirings to pad the employment number for the election.
I could go on and on about all the good things Obama and his policies have done for the American people, but I won't. I'll just list my favorite one.
Obama has turned this country into the Greece of the America's with his debt crisis that has almost shut our government down twice in fourteen months by adding over $6 trillion to the national debt in less than 4 years and has Obama go begging for money from foreign nations..
I've alway wanted to know what it was like to live in Greece and now I know. Well almost, we don't have the protest in the streets yet over the debt crisis, but I'm not worried, we will have them soon enough if Obama gets reelected.
Proud Patriot thanks for shining the light on the Republicans in the House of Non-Representatives who plotted this course of action. There will be a day when they are forced to atone for their malicious acts against America.
This posting is directed at all of the true conservative Christians that read these threads, to better inform you of whom you will really be voting for, if you happen to decide to vote for Romney/Ryan.
Your Republican Party has been taken over by a bunch of Ayn Rand Disciples, and which Paul Ryan happens to be a devoted believer of Ayn Rand’s philosophies.
And, as for Romney, I’m not sure just what he is, but what we do know is, he’s a pathological liar besides being a borderline psychopath.
As David Stockman who happened to be Ronald Reagan’s budget director once said, The Republican Party has been infiltrated and taken over by a bunch of Nuts!
Now, back to Ayn Rand, do you people have any idea of what Ayn Rand’s philosophies were?
If not, her philosophies were centered around Objectivism.
Whereas, selfishness is considered a virtue, and the world is made up of what she considered as creators and parasites.
In other words most of you are considered as parasites unless you happen to be in the 1 percent, but here is the real kicker for all of the true conservative Christians.
Objectivism, also considers people of religious faith as FOOLS, and are incapable of reason. They lack the ability to reason for themselves, in a sane manner!
Now, just stop and think, if they only think of you as FOOLS. Then that means that they don’t think mush of you period, and so, how could they honestly have your best interests at heart? In other words you are being used solely as pawns just to further their goals, and they really could care less about what happens to you in the long term.
Your Party has purposely destroyed our economy, and just to put themselves in the position to say, look, we warned all of you that Ayn Rand Novel Atlas Shrugged would come to pass, and low and behold it has, but in truth, only because of their intentional fiscal irresponsibilities of the past four decades!
They want a two-class society in this country and will stop at nothing to make that a reality! The Creators and the Parasites!
So, we can only hope that all of you true conservative Christian’s will finally wake-up before it’s too late, so as we all don’t become slaves to the 1percenter’s!
Obama/Biden to Restore the middle-class!
Better Any Rand's philosophy then Lenin and Stalin's moron!
Three things you can always count on Joe Biden for....
l. Lying thru his false white teeth.
2. Making gaffes that will sink the Oblumbler Adminsistration [Libyan f-up]
3. Acting like the as$hole he is.
Bob you forgot to mention that he is also Black and a Muslim. Get with the program.
and he's a dope smoking moron that eats dogs too. Bo recently requested asylum in Mexico as a political refugee,
Common sense 4 u
Using your figure that Obama reduced the deficit $200 billion in four years that means the deficit will be around $800 billion when Obama leaves office after 4 more years.
Now if we take the 's administration projection MSNBC reported on, when Obama leaves office after 4 more years the National debt will be around $23 trillion.
So by your common sense, reducing the deficit by $200 billion and increasing the national debt by another $7 trillion, Obama will have served this country well.
That so wrong by any standard, it shameful.
Where did you get those figures...hahaha you guys are really idiots. The deficit cannot and will not go up another trillion dollars (that means we would have to repeat everything as were last year...and my friend that is Impossible!)
Why ....because...
We will be investing in infrastructure the next year regardless of who is President. It's all about America the next 4 years, my friend. And woe to any politician who doesn't work for the people's cause this time around. It would be political suicide if this country gets held up by partisanship in the government in 2013
Why is no one mentioning what is happening in Freeport Illinois?
what happened there? a Dummycrap mistakenly told the truth for the first time in the commie party's history?
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHA-148.aspx
Listen to a Democrat that had answers for today's problems and we know how
his solutions came out...no guessing and no BS...28 minute address all should hear.
Here's a good documentary about Romney
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE
LOL...Romney and Ryan reminds me of the slick talking new business salesmen that comes to your town, knocks on your door, greets you with a great smile, tells you how great it is to have you as a neighbor...but all the while behind your back they bought your house and property and you got 30 days to move..... HAHAHAHA!
So who did Obummmer and Dummmer get killed yesterday??
Burning questions:
Is Barrack Obama dumb?(We already know Joe Biden is "dummer"
Should Hi-LIAR-Y Clintclown be indicted for impersonating a Secretary of State??
Will White House Press Secretary Jay Carney ever go through puberty?
Will Nancy Peolosi and Debbie LIARman Schultz ever out run the ugly stick????
@bob-2579213
You haven't said one intelligent thing in all your posts. I mean seriously dude...you sound like the scarecrow from the Wizard of OZ.."if I only had a brain"! lol
I liike his comment on Romney os prepaired impose his views on the US. Sounds like Obama acutal Obamacare on the US even though 67% didn't want it.
Outzider, you decribed Obama, slick promises he makde during the 08 election to a tee, basicly selling out the country
In regards to Biden's comment on women having a right to control their body and have an abortion, this thinking frustrates me greatly! Yes! A woman does have a right to control her body! She can choose whether or not to have sex. She can choose whether or not to use birth control. She then has to live with the consequences of those choices. If she gets pregnant, she is now resposible for another life and whether she is going raise that child or allow a couple who would gratefully adopt and raise that child.
With that said, I know there are exceptions when a woman was denied control over her body whether it's rape, incest or her life is in serious danger. I understand there are exceptions but even with these exceptions, abortion should never be taken lightly.
I'm also frustrated by this concept that we should be taxed to pay for a woman's birth control. That is ridicules. Why do Americans have to pay for a woman to have expensive birth control when many people feel condoms are good enough? If she can't afford expensive birth control options, then buy condoms! If she can't afford condoms or her partner can't afford condoms then maybe they should rethink their actions. We aren't animals that have absolutely no control over our behavior. God gave us brains to use. Use them. You choose what you want to do with your body but you should expect others to pay for your recreational behavior OR think it's okay to deny another life an opportunity to live and grow.
Okay, I'm done.
Condoms get pretty darned expensive over a month, especially for a couple who is married. Plus, a woman has no protection if a partner doesn't want to use them and won't take no for an answer. A new study has come out that shows abortions drop rapidly when birth control is free, and is the kind you don't have to remember all the time (IUDs, a souped-up version of Norplant).
But I'm sure you're against something that actually works all the time. Women have to be punished for daring to have sex, after all, right?
Fargomama, it's comments like yours that underscore how, even in this enlightened day and age, we, as a nation, remain precariously one single vote away from a dictatorship. I champion your right to follow the mores and doctrines of your chosen faith, and I support the many men and women who have given their lives, which has allowed us this freedom.
But, what you and many others, apparently fail to comprehend is your choice of religion is only one among many. And each and every follower of those other faiths probably hold themselves to a personal standard of devotion that is equal to, if not greater, than your own. The freedom given us to worship as we see fit doesn't come in a one size fits all package. And when you start to deny others the same right to worship their God, as you do yours, is the time when all freedoms are in danger of that same 'pick and choose' narrow-minded mentality.
You laid out in your comments, what is your view of the abortion issue, and since I am not you, I wouldn't presume to try and persuade you otherwise. Up to a point, in fact, I am in total agreement. Especially when you state that you concur with Biden's position that women should have the right to control their own bodies. Yep, we're still on the same page here. But then you go on to list exceptions, and that's where we part company.
Saying that you agree that women should have the right to control their bodies, 'except' when it comes to abortion, almost fits the definition of an oxymoron. Which is defined as: a figure of speech in which incongruous or contradictory terms appear side by side. Including that disclaimer to your original statement, pretty much cancels out your support of a woman's right to have control of her own body in one fell swoop.
Having control of one's body is a black and white issue, either you do or you don't, there's no in between. if you take away a woman's right to choose, in that moment, you are claiming ownership of her body. Doesn't matter if she regains property rights again in nine months, because your will has already been enforced. Not only have you forced her to have a child she does not desire, you have also compelled her to follow the path of a religion that might not be her own.
Your statements about affordable contraceptives and condoms are equally perplexing. You don't support insurance paying for contraceptives, and yet you oppose abortion. Here you are effectively arguing both sides of the coin. It doesn't take a leap in logic to realize that if contraceptives became universally covered by insurance it would likely, in turn, help avoid many of those abortions you are against in the first place.
Republicans seem to have latched onto this tunnel vision out look. It's like baseball, they're ready to step up to the plate and take a swing at the ball, but that's where their involvement ends. They leave the real work of running the bases, scoring points, and sliding into home to the other players, namely the Democrats. As a group, you oppose abortion, and some even believe there should be no exceptions, even in cases of rape, incest, or the mother's health, but at the same time you also oppose insurance covered contraceptives. Do you see here how there might be a conflict of interest? Or perhaps even a lapse in rational thought?
Based on your religious principles you believe that all life is sacred, except when it comes to the death penalty. In that case, it's okay. We've seen bills introduced this past year supporting personhood amendments, and certainly Paul Ryan is on record as having supported them. In fact, he co-sponsored such a bill with Todd Akin, that would have outlawed all abortions, no exceptions, as well as some forms of contraceptives. In it they also sought to redefine the definition of rape as 'forcible rape'.
By the way you do remember who Todd Akin is don't you? He's the one who said that in cases of 'legitimate rape' a woman's body has a way of shutting down, so no pregnancy occurs. Who could have ever guessed that there was a segment of the elected congressional body that still needs to be schooled in the basics of the birds and the bees.
Republicans are good at starting fires, but they lack the qualifications necessary to put them out again. So sure, let's follow the Republican doctrine, by doing away with abortion, no exceptions, and at the same time, shut down every government program that's currently in place to help all these unwanted children and their families, once they have an extra mouth to feed. Programs like food stamps, welfare, head start, public education, etc.
The bottom line is that the right only cares about the sanctity of life, up to the point of birth, and after that, you're on your own.
Obama/Biden
Romney and Ryan..."monorail...monorail..."