There are a lot more appropriate ways to react to "lies" than what Biden did, smirking and laughing and interrupting while flailing. I would have given Biden the win in the debate if he had been sincere and direct and had toned (way) down the physical flailing and smirking in his rebuttals. Instead, he came off looking like a bully. We can't downplay his body language -- unfortunately, when interacting with other people, body language is king.

The issues were sunk by the insolence. Biden should know better.

Romney/Ryan 2012 - A New Hope

Ahh, it shorely is a GRAND day in Libville!

I am ALL in for Four More cups of JOE!

Thanks to the hosts who have no doubt been killing the overtime to bring us the horse race. Thanks to friends and foes who represent day in and day out.

Now down on over yonder at the Dew Drop we'll be hosting the 1st of the Season Chili Cookoff. And for dessert a Giant Costco Great American Chocolate Cake to celebrate RedDev's birthday!

My Fowl Play chili is award winning and a sendup to the playoffs. No red meat, just ground turkey and shredded chicken in a thick red sauce with lots of beans. Now if someone would bring some skillet cornbread and fixin's, we can kick this party off right soon!

Happy Friday to all - See you bright eyed and bushy tailed come Monday. Let the weekend spinners commence to changing the tide with about 15 rounds of 'spin' cycle - a girl could get RIGHT comfortable with that all night,...

I voted this week. Now, if I get hit by a bus before election day, at least I can rest easy knowing I've already cast my ballot for President Obama's re-election.

Vice President Biden rocked the debate! Kid Ryan looked totally out of his element as he struggled to keep his lies straight. Note to Romney/Ryan: you wouldn't have so much trouble speaking informally, if you told the same story in front of the cameras as you do to your lobbying cronies.

Great week...

unemployment at 7.8 , and 5.9 here in MN.

Housing sales prices up 12% for the year in MN, low interest rates.

A daughter of a friend ,a senior in college ,has been notified that she will be hired with one of our fortune 500 companies here in MN after graduation.

And Joe Biden had a great debate picking apart the lies, distortions of Ryan.

And it is Friday and wonderful weekend ahead.

I'm headed out to pick up visiting dogs this weekend. Didn't want to leave without saying..

What oh what did we learn? Joltin' Joe took it to Ryan, and that had to hurt.! Poor Lyin' Ryan is used to being treated with such kid gloves, and is quite accustomed to being the "wonder kid," when VP Biden ripped that mask off his face, well, let's just say the welts are showing! I am sure that everyone is telling Paul what a WONDERFUL job he did, and what a GOOD BOY he was, and if Ryan stays away from people prone to truth telling, like me, he might just begin to believe it!

Like the old song says "Happiness is a thing called Joe!" Slainte, Joe ! You did us proud!

What else did we learn? The right wing HATES that the job numbers are improving, and they have pontificated that SOMEONE IS LYING! Even though it is the selfsame agency that did the job reports prior, when they loved them. That is simply crazy making and I do believe they should get help for that!

Feisty, will head out to the Dew Drop Inn, where the cocktail of the day is Joltin' Joe martinis!

Thanks Domenico and Mark for an excellent week. Politics is the best spectator sport there is!

I am proud of the way Mr. Ryan conducted himself. Romney will have the chance to dispute the lies that Joe told and would not let Paul dispute because of his obnoxious laughing over Paul's words. Paul showed great restraint. Watching at home, I wanted to punch Joe Biden in the mouth and have him swallow his caps! Now, Mitt just needs to have his facts and ducks in a row for the next round. Obama and Joe can lie all they want, but the facts and the truths always come out in the wash, no matter how much they spin and churn them and no matter how biased the media. Failures cannot be hidden for long.

Romney/Ryan 2012 for a United country, with riches, strength and morality.

Courtesy of Daily

Kos,June 8, 2012

On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to
sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration. In
Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S.
House of Representatives"

Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with

GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law

Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.

Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)

Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)

Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),

Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),

Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),

Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),

Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and

Sen. Bob Corker

(TN-R).Non-lawmakers present

Newt Gingrich

During the four

hour meeting: The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill

regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct

and block President Obama on all legislation.

Courtesy

of the National Journal, October 25, 2010

Senate minority

leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) "The single most important thing we want to

achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president

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I wrote all these comments yesterday, long before the Biden, Ryan debate. I'm very glad taht all I said in these comments Ryan confirmed all of it yesterday. I truly hope the old,the young, and all the citizens that are Democrats open their eyes after all the the known intentions of Ryan and Romney to literally destroy both of the oldest institutions of our dear country, that is Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid. We all need to seriouly protect each other against the negative, and abusive political proposals, and ideas of the Republican Party! We need to all consolidate and vote full Democratic ticket!

Ryan, you're an indolent freak that knows nothing about budgets, but presents an imaginary front of wisdom to all the citizens and the fools in the House of Representative that you lead so well, you are the head guru of the worthless Tea Party. You only know distorted political policies very well for the benefit of the rich, you burst your lungs with the lies you produced in the House of Representative giving these speeches about how to annihilating the old, and later hurt the younger people by taking their Medicare away in the notorious Vouchers replacements trick. Also trying changed the present Social Security to “Privatization”, transferring those billions of dollars presently in “Secure Government Funds” to Large Banks, Money Lending Institutions, and “Private Investor Groups”, If the Stock Market were to crash any time in the future! The money will just disappeared in the pockets of all last mentioned institutions. You, like Mr. Romney, thinks that the 47% of our best citizens are worthless. These 47%, they are the ones you both want to take everything away from them, while they are trying hard to recover from the Bush destructive years in power. If you both by a misfortune and stupidity of the American people get both of in the White House, you both will destroy America as we know it! Keep thinking no one, but the rich deserves all the millions of dollars, all the food, all the houses, all the comforts of living, home car elevators, all the health insurance, all that obtained from the sweats of the middle class presently working for you now!! Ryan, you keep attending Congress, while you also running for VP, and sleep there all day, besides voting against every Bill to abuse the American citizens that you both call the 47%, and the rest of the 53% you are screwing-up also! Mr. Ryan, people/women are criticizing you because enjoying showing your muscles, and taking athletic poses during you lousy speeches. To many of us, you eyes face looks like the night owl my grandfather kept, the poor bird flew away into the unknown, never to return! You should do the same! You have the Hercules verbal, and mental complex, the gift and ability to lie to anyone that wants to listen to all the junk that comes out of your mouth, needing daily wash with cleaning fluids to sterilize your mouth from perpetually telling, and propagating political policies full of lies to the decent American people all around you!

This posting is directed at all of the true conservative Christians that read these threads, to better inform you of whom you will really be voting for, if you happen to decide to vote for Romney/Ryan.

Your Republican Party has been taken over by a bunch of Ayn Rand Disciples, and which Paul Ryan happens to be a devoted believer of Ayn Rand’s philosophies.

And, as for Romney, I’m not sure just what he is, but what we do know is, he’s a pathological liar besides being a borderline psychopath.

As David Stockman who happened to be Ronald Reagan’s budget director once said, The Republican Party has been infiltrated and taken over by a bunch of Nuts!

Now, back to Ayn Rand, do you people have any idea of what Ayn Rand’s philosophies were?

If not, her philosophies were centered around Objectivism.

Whereas, selfishness is considered a virtue, and the world is made up of what she considered as creators and parasites.

In other words most of you are considered as parasites unless you happen to be in the 1 percent, but here is the real kicker for all of the true conservative Christians.

Objectivism, also considers people of religious faith as FOOLS, and are incapable of reason. They lack the ability to reason for themselves, in a sane manner!

Now, just stop and think, if they only think of you as FOOLS. Then that means that they don’t think mush of you period, and so, how could they honestly have your best interests at heart? In other words you are being used solely as pawns just to further their goals, and they really could care less about what happens to you in the long term.

Your Party has purposely destroyed our economy, and just to put themselves in the position to say, look, we warned all of you that Ayn Rand Novel Atlas Shrugged would come to pass, and low and behold it has, but in truth, only because of their intentional fiscal irresponsibilities of the past four decades!

They want a two-class society in this country and will stop at nothing to make that a reality! The Creators and the Parasites!

So, we can only hope that all of you true conservative Christian’s will finally wake-up before it’s too late, so as we all don’t become slaves to the 1percenter’s!

Obama/Biden to Restore the middle-class!

How can anyone whom calls themselves a Christian be against helping the needy, the downtrodden and such. I do believe that is what Jesus did, help the needy, the sick and the downtrodden. Wake up you so called Christians

Rommey's plan for America is like a 'ponzie" scheme, give us your money and

wait for the returns, he wants us to give him our vote and wait for the results.

Obama has stopped the dumping of furniture and tires and solar panels that China was paying less than 24 cents an hour to produce. Will we trust Romney to raise import taxes on his Staples and BestBuy and Maytag and Fridgidaire and Burlington Coat Factory, and Toys-R-Us and Sports Authority products that come from his Romney Enterprise Zones in China, Salvadore, Honduras, Mexico, and India as well? What are the chances of that? Mitt's middle name is slave labor!

Do we really think Romney will change his stripes and create better paying jobs here in America while his profits come from off-shore? Republicans will believe anything! Look how many will come out and vote for this carpet-bagger next month!

The Republicans are either depraved or extremely low information individuals. I would prefer to believe they are the latter, but after decades of seeing how they vote and the extremes they are willing to foist upon our citizens, I am afraid they are comprised of the former....

There is not anyway that any of we common people can have any ideal of what Romney's actual policies will be.

Here's a good video to watch www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE

Well, if the conservatives and some uncertains vote for Romney, our country is doomed. Mr. Obama has unemployment numbers going down, housing going up, and is still true to what he said in 2008. A president cannot make change if Congress will not cooperate. Romney is lying about helping the middle-class and protecting Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. All will be dumped for something uncertain and more expensive. The health care act will go and people who have medical coverage, perhaps for the first time in their lives, will have it no more. If you want our country to continue its upward trend in the economy etc., you better re-elect Pres. Obama. If you don't, all but the billionaires will be totally screwed, and we will again be paying for a war.

Biden Gives Paul Ryan Nervous Tick. Joe Biden had Paul Ryan so over matched not only. Did Joe make Paul ryan look like a little kid out of his league. But after a while Paul Ryan developed a head tick. his head just started rocking back and forth like a little kid. How Ryan BAD would it look with Ryan's nervous head bobbing tick in a heated conversation with our nations enemy's him looking like a little boy bobbing g his head like TURKEY.

Ignorance from the GOP is nothing unusual; at all. But for them to be so stupid as to say that Pres Obama and the Dems didn't even try to reach across the aisle is for them to say that the Dems were not willing to give them everything and kiss their stinking asses on top of that! John Boehner said out of his own mouth that when he and the POTUS sat down together, he (Boehner), got everything he wanted!!! How much more can one allow beyond EVERYTHING?

ReSuckicans are full of sh!t from head to toe! Pres Obama did all he could to meet these imbeciles more than half way. He allowed drilling on our southern shelf because the ass-hole GOP kept crying and singing, "Drill baby drill", and just look at how that turned out! Millions of gallons of oil coughed up into OUR waters as well as abroad. The GOP are like spoiled fu.cking children who scream, kick, and pound their fist if they can't have everything their way. They believe in name-calling; just like children do, "Barack Obama is the food stamp president!" Remember how they spat on black members of the legislature and called them NIGGARS when the health care act passed? YES, THEY went there!

NOW, they are trying to steal the vote! How can anyone work with people such as these carbuncles? The GOP is filth on a stick and they think that EVERYONE is SUPPOSE to lick their asses in order to get along with them. THEY are PATHETIC in every sense of the word. Look at how they KEEP accusing Barack Obama of being somehow foreign; demanding to see his birth certificate and college transcripts. Remember being a kid and the school yard bullies were forever saying, "Prove it you dweeb!" No matter what the subject matter was; they always DEMANDED proof? The GOP acts the same way but the world at large IS NOT their playground!

When the Dems had control of the House and Senate; what did the ReSuckicans do? Like little brats, they filibustered EVERY measure presented to the floor for a vote. THESE hissing little snots even held America's credit rating hostage like; "I will hold my breath until I turn blue!" THEY are not ready for prime time! We need a MAN, or a WOMAN, who will stand up to these selfish, foolish, rotten, LYING, freaks!

Now they cry that LYING wins debates. A LIE is a LIE and has no merit at all but for them, he who LIES the most wins! It is high time that the DEMS should spank their asses and spank them well. We DO NOT need children running around in the Oval Office playing games. We need leadership; and childish behavior DOES NOT QUALIFY!

Right on...

This was a better debate.

If they dont know what malarkey is I know they wont know what a carbuncle is. Apt description though. The republicans are just not what I thought they used to be. It is a shame. Anything to win using no moral compass and willing to say anthing to get a vote. And to put their Christianity aside too. I hope the crowd and the moderator has some good questions for Mitt. The republicans need some straight answers before they sell their souls to the highest bidder.

@ktlin60:

Exactly my point! Additionally, they need to grow up!!! Play by the rules and tell the truth no matter how awkward. They need to stop trying to steal this election by blocking the vote of those who have the right to exercise their vote.

ALL of this mud-slinging and tearing down of the other party serves only to further divide America while we are suppose to be the "United States!" What do observers from around the world think when they see us carrying on the way we have in the more recent generals? The Dems maybe less guilty but both parties are acting shameful to some degree. Nobody should be shooting at the other parties facility. This is too much and something has got to change and change very soon. I don't want my grands growing up in an America where LYING is the order of the day and corruption is the only way!

Right on...