So now we can expect him to twist the failure of the last four years with more passion.

Truly Pathetic.

What ever happened to Ruken/Xabre?

So David Walker just admitted O did not have a command of the facts.

Guess he had no clue or answer.

Too funny.

So tundie - you are in a debate with a guy who is lying. You really gonna just sit there and take it. Not going to call him on it, in the moment?

Why I bet our own Anna Molley would crush someone in open court spewing lies.

But not O, just too polite after all.

ROFL, Obama was too polite... What a wonderful joke. What a great admission of failure. Polite had nothing to do with it... another lie by Obama.

Romney was there... Obama wasn't. If he'd simply admit he never showed up I'd respect that.

Brianb1956, I'll choose some who was there and said little over the other person who kept on lying (Romney) incessantly. It would be so sweet to watch Romney's concession speech... I'll get some popcorn and enjoy like I've never enjoyed it before.

The guys lost any shred of credibility... and is a well oiled weather vane.

Spanky, remember Obama was having altitude sickness. Next debate, the pressure is more on Romney. Now the masses expect an encore performance. Romney's success is to attack Obama's dismal record.

David Walker thinks it was so easy just to command facts yet the smartest man in the room had no command. How is that? I think Romney prepped better, Obama was overconfident. Its also funny how David Walker and uber left are making the claim Romney is a pathological liar and Obama is Mother blanking Theresa.

Good times with the Ivory Tower libs that pontificate, equally good times with the Barbaric Feisty's and NDD's.

Maybe the Bishop and his Catholic deer hunter sidekick can tell us when lying became acceptable to the Church?

how precious, Feisty busting out the pear of anguish on her crusade of bigotry against anyone religious.

Uh Tundie - what was the deficit before and after O?

Oh and say, on the topic of lies, how about "I will cut the deficit in half in my first term?'

WWIII? Yeah, but we all know it'll be cause of a video, right?

Say Tundie where is Susie Rice? Where is Hillary? Prolly not chatting it up with "bernie' - right Tundie?

Bad debate. Wonderful, competent president.

The town hall suits the president well. He is very good at one on one with people. He is well liked and respected and I think he will receive a good reception from Americans at the next debate.

I have never seen the president go down to the level of the Republicans. Ever.

I find it hard to believe that his advisers would have advised him to do that pre-debate. Now he's going to have to. It's not his comfort zone, but it sure as hell is Romney's.

Here's an example: The Obama Diary:

So Romney’s been using a new addition to his stump speech on Libya. He recalls that him and Ann met the ex-Seal that was one of the victims in the Benghazi attack. First, I figured this is way too convenient, someone musta reminded Romney that they met an then figures hey let’s put that in the stump speech. Well then a friend of the slain ex-Seal told a local radio show that he remembered the tale of the Romney meeting in a different light as told to him by his slain friend. Here’s the link to that story: http://t.co/qurUZo23

Well now this, the mother of the Seal has spoken out:
“Mother of killed former SEAL mentioned by Romney says “I don’t trust Romney”

______________

President Obama, don't trust Romney to tell the truth. Please.

Quoted from Dumfux's link:

Addicting Info started as a resource to discredit all the lies and propaganda that the right-wing spreads.

Left wing? Absolutely... what else can you expect from Dumfux's daily reading material. Discredited for obvious reasons.

gallup tied

WWIII? Yeah, but we all know it'll be cause of a video, right?

yeah WWIII spanky because with Obama and his shiny Peace Prize, world Peace has broken out world wide. Without Obama, Republicans and Romney are going to unleash the death star on the world.

How many times does the American have to be Lied to by Romney & company before they get it? Mitt, Ryan & the GOP/Tea are All liers.

Caesar Augustus-

Without Obama, Republicans and Romney are going to unleash the death star on the world.

it might be a joke to you.., but remember who took us to Iraq~!!!! ReTHUGlicans... I was against this decision then.. and I'm afraid Romney and his advisers (cough - bush advisers - cough) haven't learned a darned thing~!!!

OK liberals... if Romney lied what, 27 times in 33 minutes... where was Obama to discredit these lies? Are you telling me that Obama allowed Romney to lie this much in the space of 1/2 hour and said NOTHING? What does that say about Obama? Was he on another planet? Was he not paying attention? Was Obama on drugs? Or, is it all just made up by liberals that can't stand that their hero was put to shame? That makes more sense than anything else. If you disagree, tell me why Obama let that many lies slide without commenting on them... it wasn't because he was being polite... Romney wasn't... he called Obama out on the lies he was saying.

Obama said... someone showed up at the debate and he called himself Mitt Romney...

In otherwords, Obama was actually believing all the crap he has spewed out about Romney without ever expecting Romney to show up at the debate. I can't wait until the next presidential debate so Romney can clean up the mess he left on the floor during the last debate.

it might be a joke to you

Obama's Peace Prize is a joke. Iran is a storm on the Horizon and either Romney or Obama are going to have to deal with it. So tell me Tunde, Obama is such a uniter, why does the ME continue to decline back to the 7 century? Let me guess its the Tea Party, Republican, Bush thing huh? Its cool Tunde, Israel will probably strike Iran before long because they feel they have the right to life liberty and their pursuit of happiness surrounded by wolves.

Uh Tundie -

what was the deficit before and after O?

I know you are smarter than that... don't act like the low info voters out there. Besides bush didn't put the wars on the books.

• Obama Deficits
• FY 2013*: $901 billion
• FY 2012*: $1,327 billion
• FY 2011: $1,300 billion
• FY 2010: $1,293 billion
• Bush Deficits
• FY 2009: $1,413 billion

So how can you say he doubled it? not to mention the disaster that president Obama met in the white house.

Oh and say, on the topic of lies, how about "I will cut the deficit in half in my first term?'

We are talking about the debate not promises that couldn't be kept because of the hand he was dealt.

it might be a joke to you.., but remember who took us to Iraq~!!!! ReTHUGlicans...

they had help...plenty of democrats lending a hand...like Hillary, John Kerry, Jojo the Chimp Biden....

Romney and the CONS keep blaming Obama on the economy but fails to mention which policies are at fault.

Ok CONS, let's do some ARITHMETIC...

First,

Name the "Obama" POLICIES and the AMOUNTS that you say added trillions to the debt.

Next,

ADD the total amounts and DEDUCT from the current $16 TRILLION.

The balance = GOP spending.

Remember the following…

Expenses to FIX the GOP failed policies like TARP and the stimulus are still GOP spending and NOT Obama's fault so DO NOT count those policies.

All expenses from the previous GOP administration's unfunded policies that Obama added to his budget is also Republican spending.

INTEREST on the GOP TRILLIONS of debt is NOT for Obama to be responsible for either, it is GOP spending too. They own that interest.

Also,

The Bailouts are LOANS to "repair" more GOP screwed up policies, the GOP wanted those to be FREE of charge, a "going away gift" to the Banks and Wall Street, from Bush.

Do not add policies before Reagan because there was NO DEBT PROBLEM before that, Reagan took office when the debt had ONE TRILLION and could have been tackled and fixed with comprehensive tax reform but he did not.

Entitlements are a tiny fraction of the debt and they always bring their own revenues thru payroll deductions as premium payments. Entitlements are NOT free, it's paid into insurance.

Saying that the Democrats had a "majority" doesn't count either, because we all know the filibustering, obstructing, uncompromising, DO NOTHING GOP party of pledges to "NEVER bring revenues" has had the "CONTROL" and all those failed GOP policies were drafted by Republicans AND all those policies passed with GOP majorities of votes going back to Reagan.

The CONS will NEVER have policies or numbers to blame on the Democrats because they DO NOT exist. Look them up, I tried. Every single policy at fault are GOP owned, drafted and vigorously voted by them.

DO NOT get fooled into thinking it is Obama's or the Democrat's fault. It is time to stop that Myth.

Get ready. All you will get from the Republican Fox-Rush-bots is going to be more diversions and ridicules to change the subject, so be prepared for those.

This is NOT blaming the GOP or BUSH, this is ARITHMETIC !!!!

Pat Boston MA. said

gallup tied

Not quite Pat

Romney 49%, Obama 47% Among Likely Voters

October 9, 2012
Forty-nine percent of likely voters pick Mitt Romney and 47% Barack Obama in Gallup's initial "likely voter" estimate, spanning Oct. 2-8.

Let us hope that the News does not ignore the latest example of Romney's shameless nature: One of the young man killed in Libya that Romney mentions that he met and talked to, etc at some party years ago,, in some stump speeches- it turns out his mother just issued a statement ripping Romney a new one. No one else but Romney himself can be blamed for this politisicing of a tragedy. What a scumbag, lying draft dodger.

A liberal definition of a Romney Lie. Whenever Romney does not agree with what President Obama says is the Romney position. For example, President Obama says that Romney is going to raise taxes on the middle class, but Mitt Romney says he is going to cut the tax rate for everyone and pay for it by reducing tax deductions on the wealthy. ROMNEY IS LYING!!!!!!

I don't even know how you debate someone who constantly lied...you can't continue to scream LIER.

I guess next time President Obama should just go up to him and slap that shyt out of his face.... or give Romney some soap to wash out his dirty mouth.

I get a big kick out of the ObaMANIACS on this message board who tow their party's line that Romney's a liar, and Obama is as pure as the driven snow.

That is so not true, it's just laughable.

The people who are LYING are the ones who were telling you Romney's economic plan would be paid for with a tax increase on the middle class; and that, his plan would increase the deficit by 5 trillion dollars.

The people who are LYING to you are the ones who said they'd close GITMO inside of two years.

The people whio are LYING to you are the ones who said thatUS gasoline production is at its highest level, ever.

The People who are LYINGto you are the ones who said in 2008 that "the jobs are shovel ready."

The people who areLYING to you are the ones who said they would cut the deficit in half within four years.

The people who are LYING to you are the ones who said they would stand with you in the picket line if your right to collective bargaining was taken away.

The people who are LYING to you are the ones who said they would take public financing for their campaign.

The people who are LYING to you are the ones who said they would have no lobbyists involved with their campaign, nor their administration, then turned around and approved billions of dollars worth of government-guaranteed loans to two of their largest campaign contributors.

The people who are LYING to you are BARRACK OBAMA and JOE BIDEN.

The reason Obama-Shama-Lama-Ding-Dongs are so mad about it is because Mitt Romney EXPOSED both of them as liars in the last debate.

Romney told the truth, and set the record straight. Obama and his lackeys have been LYING to you, for the last year, about Mitt's intentions, and his plan(s) .

They're angry because it's going to be more difficult for them to do that now.

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

Let us hope that the News does not ignore the latest example of Romney's shameless nature: One of the young man killed in Libya that Romney mentions that he met and talked to, etc at some party years ago,, in some stump speeches- it turns out his mother just issued a statement ripping Romney a new one. No one else but Romney himself can be blamed for this politisicing of a tragedy. What a scumbag, lying draft dodger.

cool, then we can apply that too EO obama and his lap dog Holder with Brian Terry. Draft dodger? You have any proof? I hope its the anti Mormon rant you went on yesterday. psst your bigotry is showing oh tolerant lefty

Well, I'm looking for some good ol' fashioned SMACK DOWN next week when the President and the other guy go for round too.

You can do it Mr. President.

But there is good news and bad news in that formula I am sorry to say.

If the President smacks the Mitt out of Romney, the GOP donors will melt away faster than the polar ice-cap. That's good news because Romney's campaign will dry up as well.

But the bad news is those donors will re-deploy those funds to races down the ballot which will make re-taking the house virtually impossible and might even endanger the Senate majority.

Save Big Bird and Save America!

Obama/Biden 2012

backhouse...

"Get the media on board". Are you serious ??? Mr. Obama needs to now "get the media" in his corner ???

The 'media' has done everything but cook this guy's dinners, wash his limo, and give him soothing neck massages since the day he announced his candidacy. And now, they need to get "on board" ???

Just go pick up ths week's edition of 'Time' magazine, for starters. Got mine in the mail yesterday and expected to read about a debate that I watched last week along with 67 million other interested viewers. Oooops ! "Time" nearly forgot about the debate, except for a couple of sentences placed in a long article about what Stupid Joe Biden needs to do in Thursday night's debate.

The magazine must have felt some pressure to at least mention the fact there had been a presidential debate. It was probably a last minute insertion...'Time' likely had a rousing edition already written about an Obama debate victory, but had to can the edition due to their 'Favorite Son's" pouty, lip-chewing performance.

Other than that...'Time' offered a couple of gushing letters about the nation's 'transformational' leader...a column on how everyone is wrong about the White House attempts to blame terrorist attacks on a 3 month old YouTube video that nobody saw...an intentional misrepresentation of complaints some have had with an '07 video of one of the former candidate's speeches where he began his little racial division issue...and the article about Stupid Joe's debate agenda needs.

"Get the media on board" ??? Are you kidding...the media is already sharing the Captain's Quarters.

skip,

Valid points. For that to happen, the president needs a decisive victory. Anything less than Romney crying like a girl and it would be viewed as a push, and Romney backers will keep the money flowing. The president has to play to win as opposed to playing not to lose - something he doesn't seem to be doing lately.

skip...

Big Bird can easily afford to save himself...he doesn't need my money.

Pat Boston MA.

...The town hall suits the president well. He is very good at one on one with people.

Hehehehe... unless that person happens to be Romney!

Then... maybe not so good one on one... HAHAHAH!!!

:O)

Zman2012

The reason Obama-Shama-Lama-Ding-Dongs are so mad about it is because Mitt Romney EXPOSED both of them as liars in the last debate.

Romney told the truth, and set the record straight. Obama and his lackeys have been LYING to you, for the last year, about Mitt's intentions, and his plan(s) .

Boy, you make Forrest Gump look like a Rhodes Scholar. You know? Exposed? LOL. The only thing he exposed is the lack of backbone, brother.

Nearly, every single word that came from Etch's mouth was a complete flop, or flip, whichever you prefer from what he was running on for the last 18 months, Einstein.

Go take your meds, Z. You have become delirious from Etch-A-Stench BS!

Walks like a duck, acts like a duck, well you know.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Cesar,

Iran is presently seeing its oil exports plummet as is its currency. Iran holds elections next Spring. Its new President may take a new course. Israeli and other world leaders know this is possible.

Sanctions are working to hurt average Iranian citizen. There was a small riot last week in Tehran's main shopping district over higher prices resulting from Iran's currency devaluation.

Meanwhile, Iran's main friend in the world, Syria, is in the midst of a growing civil war.

Iran's situation continues to deteriorate. Russia holds key here and they will propose their own solution to nuclear program in Iran. Pressure from US will not help move Putin forward. He is his own man and he loves showing everyone that.

Our foreign policy there is working, but that does not guarantee success. Iran has to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions and submit to inspections of their peaceful use of nuclear to generate electricity.

You libs here all sound exactly like horses ass Mr. Ed. You really need to get a life. You have no defense of the debate so all you can say is Romney lied, Romney lied, Romney lied.

Obama is a very poor leader and a failure at being President of the United States. Yet you guys love him because he's a democrat. Pathetic!

ROFLMAO!! Obama would blame his poor performance on Bigfoot if he thought he could get away with it!!

When Obama can't run on his record there is not a whole lot he could do - and it showed............

Bill, a liberal definition of a lie is.

Bushes final budget had a 1.4 trillion deficit.

Total debt over 10 trillion. Now at 16 trillion.

Romney lie = President Obama has doubled the deficit.

I am not sure which one you would like to defend, but give it a go.

I know their are two kinds of Republican. Majority that do not know math and those that will lie about everything to get elected.

The spin from the left is pathetic 8)

I watched Obama stare at the podium scribbling something on a notepad or maybe carving a hammer and sickel.. When someone is talking to you looking down and not at the person is a sign your getting your ass kicked.

He is one of the worst American Presidents of all time and the Country has had enough of his antics.

Vote anybody other than Obama and Biden.

I think it's fair to say Oblamo lost due to his abysmal four-year record as POTUS. What makes Obamma think the next debate will be different is pure delusion.

Shaak, you do realize that the president of Iran doesnt have the power you believe he does. how bout you take the time to look up iran's government and who indeed holds the power (religious leaders)

Anyone who votes for a Republican without considering Grover Norquist's hold on them is voting away their freedom and way of life without knowing all the facts.

Americans are SICK of this President and ALL of his EXCUSES!

In four years, he has blamed:

George W. Bush

ATMs

American oil companies

American health care companies

Millionaires and Billionaires (who make $250,000?)

The altitude

An online video trailer

Bush again

Wall Street

Politeness

American job creators

Cambridge Police Department

American banks

The NCAA

Las Vegas

Bush some more

FEMA

GM bondholders

Enough of this petulant narcissist!

Romney/Ryan 2012

Beverly in Chicago

Mr. President, you may have been polite; but in doing you opened up a debate the country needed to have regarding all the LIES MYTH told. How can anyone vote for this dishonest, vulture-capitalist after he blatantly LIED to America?

VP Joe Biden will get the snot of Paul Ryan. He is still wet behind the ears. He couldn't even do the math for his budget on FOX NOISE!!! 

By the time Ryan is done, Biden wil be wetting his pants. Check and mate.

The main problem with supporting Romney is you have no way of defending his positions because he will not tell you what they are. What few details he gives are constantly changing depending on the audience. This is a major character flaw. He ran as a moderate Republican in Massachusetts's, then vetoed over 800 bills of which over 700 were overridden. That is not a character flaw, that is just plain stupid.

Obama has turned out to be a half-wit. Even my Border Collie is smarter than him.

President Obama admits that he was too polite and did not do well in the debate last week (substance he did fine). That in itself, says a great deal about President Obama's character; he admits when he is wrong and has done so on several occasions.

Mitt Romney, on the other hand, shoots first, aims later, stands by his often stupid and outrageous statements for days then walks those statements backwards--not much character in Romney. For weeks, Romney defended his 47% comments, stood by them then because President Obama decided NOT to give Mitt a stage to flip flop on them during the debate, Romney went on FOX and said "I was wrong". No, what is wrong is a pathological liar like Romney who wouldn't recognize sensitivity, compassion, truth, or honesty if someone read him the definition.

Reality check: In 6 of the last 7 incumbent presidential debates, 6 incumbent presidents lost their first debate, including Ronald Reagan.

Too polite? Nah, just a wuss.

Seriously? A disdainful scowl is polite? With how arrogantly disengaged he was, Obama wasn't even polite to the voters watching.

There were other statements in the 47% tape. I wonder if Romney was 100% wrong about all of them. When he talks today on the campaign trail, is he being 100% wrong as well. When does he say things that are 100% true. Anybody?

http://elections.americablog.com/2012/09/video-romney-hoped-for-american-hostage-opportunity.html

I wonder when the epiphany came that he was wrong. Think it might have been as he saw his polls tanking.

Is old Joe "depending" on his "DEPENDS" undergarments to keep him from wetting all over himself ? LOL ! I wonder how many "energy drinks he will need to stay awake.

Obama was not polite, he merely was beaten down and had no response to Romney once Mitt countered all the lies and cheap talking points Obama regurgitated !

JoAnnaSmith1

Too polite?

More like too clueless.

You're joking right; Sniff1

It is kinda hard to debate people like Paul Ryan & Willard when they lie their donkeys off.

Look, Paul Ryan is the clueless one. As I said earlier he couldn't even do the math for his budget on the and one only news channel where dishonest, political, hacks go to spew lies and half truths. That'd be FOX NOISE!!!

Paul Ryan Walks Out On Interview (VIDEO)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-walks-out-on-interview-video/

I'm astonished a republican walks off from a news network other than FOX NOISE (wink wink)

JH

Romney lied about his 20% tax cut plan estimated to cost $480 billion. He said he had no such plan. Then he later said it was revenue neutral. Then he later said it would not cut any taxes for the rich. 3 different stories in one debate.

That he seemed to get away with this during debate can be explained by the American public's lack of detailed knowledge of Romney's tax cut plan. He added to his deception by rattling off so much information that a court recorder would have had trouble keeping up with his rapid fire listing of information (some of it false).

A total of 27 different misleading statements has been attributed to romney during the debate. One every 82 seconds. And if each one lasted 20 seconds, he spent 25% of his time misleading the American people.

I have been watching debates for over 50 years and I have never seen such a lack of respect for the truth by any candidate for President. Never.

Romney can lie his butt off, but posters here can call him out. That you find this a problem only indicates that he bamboozled you.

OBAMA 2012......for a better, more truthful America.

That steaming pile of Mitt is a serial liar who probably took that amnesty in 2009 for tax cheaters. Where are your taxes Mittwit?

That Mittwit lied 533 times in30 weeks. Now three weeks later it is well over 600 lies?

I’ve written about or linked to a great deal here “chronicling Mitt’s mendacity” — to borrow Steven Benen’s phrase.

Mitt Romney says many, many things that are not true. He says this despite being in possession of the correct facts of the matter.

Which is to say that Mitt Romney lies. A lot. He lies more than any other national candidate for office in my lifetime. And I was born before the Nixon administration.

This is documented. Proven. Validated, verified, demonstrated, catalogued and quantified. Mitt Romney lies.

Here are 30 — 30! — of Benen’s weekly “chronicling” posts. These are all backed up and sourced. These are not assertions, interpretations or allegations. These are facts, actual instances.

Over the past 30 weeks, Mitt Romney has told lie after lie after lie: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI, XXII, XXIII, XXIV, XXV, XXVI, XXVII, XXVIII, XXIX, XXX.

Click those links. Read the lists. List after list of lie after lie. Hundreds of them — 533, to be exact, although Benen does not make any claim to providing a comprehensive chronicle.

This is unprecedented. “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers,” Romney’s pollster, Neil Newhouse, said.

This has produced what James Fallows calls the “post-truth” age — a relentlessly dishonest onslaught of brazen falsehoods with which the media and the political system are struggling to cope. What do you do when every article, every “fact-check,” every arbiter denounces a lie and corrects it, but then a politician just keeps repeating it?

It’s remarkable to behold.

One of the weirder aspects of this for me is watching this unfold in the politically conservative culture of my evangelical world. The most partisan evangelical conservatives are also those most likely to rant against “relativism” and to trumpet their status as defenders of “absolute truth.” Those same folks will dismiss this post — and all 30 of Benen’s posts above — as mere partisan attacks without ever bothering to examine the 533 factual instances of Mitt’s mendacity, chronicled.

That’s the only cognitive defense they have, I guess. Jam fingers in ears and shout la-la-la-you’re-being-partisan!

Because, you see, the fact that Mitt Romney said something he knew to be false is a partisan fact. And the fact that he has done this at least 533 times in the past 30 weeks is also partisan.

I suppose the other approach for Romney defenders who cannot bear to face the fact of those 533 facts will be to angrily pore over all of Benen’s lists, reading each one with a lawyerly eye.

Have at it. Please. Cherry-pick. Spin. Split hairs. Hand-wave away whichever lies you wish as mere misdemeanors and not full-fledged felonies against honesty.

But how many of those charges do you think you can get dismissed? 10 percent? 20 percent? Maybe, if you’re that sort of person and you work really hard at it — if you’re willing to get even more pedantic and semantic and technical than even you are usually comfortable with — maybe you could half convince yourself that 50 percent of those lies somehow shouldn’t really count against Romney.

That still leaves more than 260 lies. That still leaves Mitt Romney as a convicted liar, 260 times over. And at that point you’ll have to join your friends with their fingers in their ears.

But you’ll still know.

Because everyone knows. Mitt Romney lies. A lot. That is what he does. That is who he is. And friend or foe, he does not care if you know it.

The last time we had a serial liar in the White House bush/cheney told 935 lies to get us into the Iraq Abortion. He also outed a CIA agent. Then he gave us the Great Recession. The people living in empty shopping centers call them Bushvilles for a reason.

O and Joe for the future of America! As opposed to the future of the Cayman Islands..............

Pat Boston MA.
gallup tied

IBD/TIPP Tracking: Romney 49, Obama 44

Rasmussen Tracking: Romney 48, Obama 47

Pew Research: Romney 49, Obama 45

Pat, You're welcome.

President Obama a Disgrace to the people of the United States and a Hero to the Muslim world. Hi is receiving more contribution from the Muslim countries than he is here in the states.

gregorio057 - your ignorance is only overshadowed by your eagerness to show it!

Obama/Biden 2012

Lets if I got this right, for the past 6 months the left has been defining and demonizing Mitt Romney, on their own terms as second to none, the worst person on the planet. The liberal media piles on, only too happy to oblige their hero, Obama. Romney comes on national TV and in 90 short minutes undoes all the lies and hard work the left has done over the past 6 months, and draws attention to the abysmal failure of the current office holder. Who is the real liar here? The left who painted Romney with their own brush, or Mitt, who for once was able to deliver an unfiltered message. If you need any proof of who the liars are, look no further than the debacle in Libya, Obama and company were lying from day 1 of this travesty.

I hope the President has learned, and the Vice President has noted too. There is no polite way to f^( K a snake.

That'd be FOX NOISE!!!

hey bev do you somehow find yourself more superior when you type in bold and have a hostile demeanor? Does it empower you? I thought you libs hated control freaks. Fox Noise, where reality is a conspiriacy. I have a new stat for you guys. Bev, Feisty and NDD lie every time they type. 100% of the time.

3M TA3

LOL @ BEV

President Obama, you were not only too polite to Romney, but you didn't make a clear enough case to his supporters that he was flat-out lying. If he tells a bold-faced lie you need to display the incredulous look of shock that you undoubtedly feel on the inside. If what he says isn't true, you need to say, "That's just not true." You cite statistics that prove he's lying, but forget that too many of followers don't understand statistics and don't function at your level of intelligence. Break it down, say it like it is, no holds barred!

Same goes for you Vice President Biden. ROCK THAT BOAT!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

You cite statistics that prove he's lying, but forget that too many of followers don't understand statistics and don't function at your level of intelligence

gulp. Geeze yeah Obama outsmarted by a dum hick Republican. His level of intelligence is on par with Caligula

seeking sanity you need to remove the fish scales that are overlapping your eyes. It seem that in four years you are doing pretty good and your cash flow exceed your expectation. this last four years we have seen gas price jump from $1.85 to $5.00 in some places. food price double and our salary the same. many are unemployed and still would like Obama as long that they continue to receive a check from the government. I'm Not voting for Obama for a free cell phone. I'm voting for someone that will bring back the American pride. It's not about Black or white it's about work. we don't need the government to feed us we need more private jobs. Like I said before Obama is a disgrace to this country. Obama can't even defend what he accomplish in four years.

If Mr. Romney didn't lie then why is campaign back pedaling on some of his statements during the debate?

Really I just don't understand why there isn't an uproar from Republicans when he changed almost most of his policies in the debate. Romney is back to being a moderate not a "severly conservative".

Obama/Biden 2012

The President will get a bit more gladiatorial, even though he didn't 'lose' the first debate (one cannot lose a debate to an opponent who completely misrepresents and avoids all fact).

I have enough faith in the American people to believe that Romney/Ryan aren't electable no matter how much yarn they spin.

Yet MORE excuses from Obama??

What's next?? "It was a full moon...", "My tummy hurt...", "Michelle yelled at me..."??

@Elise,SF#1.81: The words "didn't lie" in conjunction with the name "Mitt Romney" in whatever context, are of themselves, a "damn lie". Otherwise though Ma'am, I agree with your post. Regards

Caesar...

Speaking of "inteligence" it should be noted that Mr. Romney is one of 18 human beings to have graduated from a 350+ year old school known as Harvard University by receiving both a law degree and a Masters in Business Administration on the same day. The single thing we do know about Mr. Obama's eduaction is that he was not among those 18 superior Harvard grads. This is actually the only public information known about Mr. Obama's education since all records, grades, and transcripts have been sealed from any viewing by the public.

Always makes me laugh when the synchophants start driveling and sniveling about how dumb Mr. Romney is and how intelligent the President is assumed to be by his supporters. But facts do speak otherwise.

Well then a friend of the slain ex-Seal told a local radio show that he remembered the tale of the Romney meeting in a different light as told to him by his slain friend. Here’s the link to that story: http://t.co/qurUZo23

Wow:

According to Ellefsen, Romney introduced himself to Doherty four separate times during the gathering.

"He said it was very comical," Ellefsen said, "Mitt Romney approached him ultimately four times, using this private gathering as a political venture to further his image. He kept introducing himself as Mitt Romney, a political figure. The same introduction, the same opening line. Glen believed it to be very insincere and stale."

Ellefsen said Doherty remembered Romney as robotic.

Now THAT is the Mitt Romney we all know and love.

“I think it’s fair to say I was just too polite," the president said

I think President O was too confused about which Mitt actually showed up.

Mitt vs Mitt

the story of 2 men trapped in one body

http://www.mittvmitt.com/

flip flop flip flop flip fop flip flop flip flop....

Obama "too polite" ????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(catch my breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AS if the other excuses weren't lame enough, they've been able to come up with something even more lame......!

"Polite" and "Obama" are 2 words that should not be in the same sentence.

One and done!

Sorry, Feisty FIB: This libertarian calls BS on BO. "Willard" opened up a can of whoopazz on the President. Anytime the President is away from the promptr, he uuhs and umms us to death and his appearance of intelligence all but disappears.

I see you are marching in lock stop with the President's "liar" response... You are indeed well-indoctrinated.

tony-268769

This is actually the only public information known about Mr. Obama's education since all records, grades, and transcripts have been sealed from any viewing by the public.

so are Romney's and so are yours if you went to college. It's because of something called: the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, or FERPA

every Freshman in college would know this since every Freshman in college is given a form to fill out and sign that he/she authorizes other(s), if any, to the records.

Let this conspiracy theory go for crying out loud!

the media sure is trying. Keep making those left leaning headlines you bunch of losers. I think the smart Americans might be on to ya! What a joke. Can't wait till this @!$%# is over in Nov.

Despite the fact that Obama looked bumbling and uncertain in comparison with Romney, there were some subtle maneuverings going on that were not readily apparent. Obama did, in fact, rehearse for the debate (with John Kerry playing Romney). Obama planned and laid well-camouflaged verbal traps for Romney. He, no doubt, had rehearsed some indignant little speeches he could use in his rebuttals.

Romney spotted every one of Obama's little traps with ease, brushed past them, and continued to dominate the debate. On that level, Obama appeared like Austin Powers playing chess with Boris Spassky.

We desperately need a President who can match wits with other world leaders and bring the US out ahead. Rather than Obama who can be manipulated so easily by the flattery and bullying of ruthless people much smarter than himself.

I think President O was too confused about which Mitt actually showed up.

more excuses, just like the economy and every other aspect of Barack Hussein Obama. Look over there. No wonder BayLIE has me on ignore. Classic entertainment from the far left only on FR.

quovadisusa

Sorry, Feisty FIB: I call BS on BO. "Willard" opened up a can of whoopazz on the President

the Republican hero Reagan got is azz whipped during the 1st debate as an incumbent...so did GHWB, and GWB....so what is your point?

getting tired of people saying candidates lie. When someone is worried about someone else doing something, they probably have that interest because that is exactly what they are doing them self. Go ahead folks, point your finger, you have 3 pointing back at yourself. So, by your accusation, you have convinced this Democrat to vote for the opposition.

whether you are a blue or red sheep doesn't matter at this point, both liars have you guys running around with your heads up their arses!

almost every word that came out of romneys mouth in the debate was a lie (don't believe it, check any of the many fact checking sites), the ones that were not lies were flip flops from positions he held earlier this year.

obama lied as well (again go to the fact checkers), admittedly he didn't lie as much but he still stood there and lied to the american people, so you cant just attack romney on lying if you wont own up to your own guy doing the same, just in moderation.

the right keeps on asking why didn't obama say anything as a defense to claim their guy didn't lie. i'll tell you why obama didn't call the liar out, simply its cause obama didn't know the facts either and therefore couldn't point anything out.

as americans what you should be pissed about is that we have another choice besides the two liers that the media has kept in our faces for the last two years, but that other choice is being kept from us. governer gary johnson is running and will be on the ballot in november, yet the media for the main part wont talk about him and only have him on their shows to talk about the two liers. worst of all they will not allow him to be a part of the debates because they are afraid the two carbon copy liers they are championing would be shown for the fools they are!

what kind of democracy/republic hides your choices from you so you will only pick from the two puppet choices they give you? a corrupt one.....

Byron Raum,

"Now THAT is the Mitt Romney we all know and love."

Considering the reputation for being a liar Romney has achieved, I am very skeptical whenever I hear him tell a "personal" story. I think he probably just makes most of them up. "I met this woman who told me blah, blah, blah...". It most likely never happened.

We certainly canNOT say Willard is polite, or has any integrity. Willard cheated the American people out of truthful answers to problems this country faces which makes fools out of WE THE PEOPLE. Willard did NOT win anything but cheated. I guess republicans don't care that they were cheated too.

The lack of cohesive thought on this board today is overwhelming. The president, during the debate, did not act like a Jerry Springer guest ... he offered facts and, I'm sure, planned to openly debate Romney regarding their differences in ideology. Then ... Romney simply lied.

He switched his positions on nearly everything ... from overturning Obamacare in his 'first day in office' stand he went to planning on keeping some of it. From overturning Dodd-Frank immediately 'upon taking office' he flipped to keeping most of it in place. From agreeing with his running mate regarding a Medicare voucher system he flopped to leaving Medicare intact ... to maybe changing it for younger people ... to making sure it was solvent.

How could anyone wrestle [debate] a writhing snake covered in olive oil? Romney will say or do ANYTHING he can to get his a$$ in the White House. Make no mistake about it ... Romney is NOT going to help the middle class. He is for the 1% and considers those of us who work to be nothing more than servants to be used at his pleasure.

Of course, what else would we expect from someone who believes himself to be a saint?

A vote for Romney is a vote against the middle class.

Omana / Biden 2012

Now Obama says he was too polite. I wonder what number excuse this is and where if fits with the plethora of other excuses?

The reason Romney is surging in the polls is that for the first time tens of millions of American people had an opportunity to see and hear the real Mitt Romney, not the one that's usually projected by the socialist media.

Baylie:

He claims he was too polite? "Willard" was polite too and whomped on the supposedly brilliant President. To put it bluntly, the President's real capabilities were exposed. With due apologies to Dennis Green: "He is who we thought he is."

Here are 7 of Romney’s fact-challenged claims from debate:

1. An ‘Unelected Board’ Controlling Your Health Care

Despite President Obama trying to push back on this lie, Romney made this claim a few times last night. Obamacare, according to Romney, “puts in place an unelected board that's going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they can have.” In reality, as the Associated Press points out , the board that is tasked with bringing down Medicare costs is prohibited from “rationing care, shifting costs to retirees, restricting benefits or raising the Medicare eligibility age. So the board doesn't have the power to dictate to doctors what treatments they can prescribe.” This Romney claim also hearkened back to Sarah Palin’s lie that Obamacare created “death panels,” which was a straight up lie.

2. A Bipartisan Record

Romney referred to his alleged “bipartisan” record in Massachusetts as governor during the debate. But what’s the real story on this? ABC News calls the claim “not quite factual.” Indeed: Romney’s health care plan was enacted with the help of a Democratic legislature. But in general, the body was “frustrated” with Romney “because he wanted to govern like a ‘CEO’ and ‘didn’t pay heed to the legislature and they resented that,’” according to the Massachusetts Taxpayer Foundation’s Michael Widmer.

3. Dodd-Frank Labels Banks as ‘Too Big to Fail’

One contrast between the candidates that emerged during the debate was over Dodd-Frank, the weak Wall Street reforms and regulations passed after the 2008 financial collapse. Romney wants to repeal Dodd-Frank, and part of the reason why is his claim that the bill designates banks as “too big to fail” and therefore gives them “a blank check.” But as ThinkProgress notes, this is far from the truth: “the law merely says that the biggest, systemically risky banks need to abide by more stringent regulations . If those banks fail, they will be unwound by a new process in the Dodd-Frank law that protects taxpayers from having to pony up for a bailout.”

4. Obamacare Leads to Loss of Healthcare

Governor Romney claimed that the passage of the Affordable Care Act will lead to 20 million people losing health insurance. He based this claim on a Congressional Budget Office report. But according to PolitiFact, Romney “cherry picked” the CBO report and mislead viewers on why people would “lose” coverage.

PolitiFact’s final verdict on the claim is: “That number is cherry-picked, and he’s wrong to describe it as only including people who ‘like’ their coverage, since many of those 20 million will be leaving employer coverage voluntarily for better options. Romney also ignores that under the status quo, many more people today ‘lose’ coverage than even the highest, cherry-picked CBO estimate. We rate his statement False.”

5. The Failure of the Obama Economy

Romney hammered Obama on the economy’s performance over the past four years. One claim Romney made was this: “[We have] 23 million people out of work...The proof of that is that 50 percent of college graduates this year can't find work.”

But here’s the AP breakdown of the facts on this claim: “The number of unemployed is 12.5 million, not 23 million. Romney was also counting 8 million people who are working part time but would like a full-time job and 2.6 million who have stopped looking for work, either because they are discouraged or because they are going back to school or for other reasons.”

And on the college graduate claim, Romney was also wrong. Back to the AP: “A Northeastern University analysis for The Associated Press found that a quarter of graduates were probably unemployed and another quarter were underemployed, which means working in jobs that didn't make full use of their skills or experience.”

6. Obamacare Cuts Billions From Medicare

This was one of Romney’s favorite attack lines last night: the notion that the Affordable Care Act is siphoning off funds from Medicare. The specific claim is that $716 billion was cut from Medicare because of the Affordable Care Act. In reality, this claim is highly misleading. What the number refers to is money that is saved “primarily through reducing over-payments to insurance companies under Medicare Advantage, not payments to beneficiaries. Paul Ryan’s budget plan keeps those same cuts , but directs them toward tax cuts for the rich and deficit reduction,” ThinkProgress notes.

7. Gas Prices Increase

Romney said that “gasoline prices have doubled under the president. Electric rates are up.” This is true--but to blame it on the president is highly misleading. Gasoline prices have little to do with individual policies carried out by a president. Instead, as the Associated Press states, “Gasoline prices are set on financial exchanges around the world and are based on a host of factors, most importantly the price of crude oil used to make gasoline, the amount of finished gasoline ready to be shipped and the capacity of refiners to make enough to meet market demand.”

The AP also skewers Romney’s claim on electric rates going up: “Retail electricity prices have risen since Obama took office — barely. They've grown by an average of less than 1 percent per year, less than the rate of inflation and slower than the historical growth in electricity prices. The unexpectedly modest rise in electricity prices is because of the plummeting cost of natural gas, which is used to generate electricity.”

Obama lost because he wasn't prepared and Romney was - everything else people are saying is just BS excuses.

Hopefully, both candidates will be fully prepared for the upcoming debates and we can have some serious discussions about the issues facing our country.

it seems that all democrats have fish scales that overlapping their eyes. they accuse Romney that lie and yet President Obama lie to the Family of the Ambassador and the three marine that were killed a few weeks ago. John Kerry Lie to his Massachusetts state by registering his boat in another State. so Stop accusing if you have a stone in your eyes. remove it before you accuse.

Gregorio057

This is kind of a pet peeve of mine, so I must address. Whenever a republican tries to state that the price of gasoline has more than doubled under Obama, it should be understood that they're lying and using dishonest information. I know that you don't enjoy thinking about who was in office before Obama, so let's just call him GW. Anyone with the slightest amount of memory will know that during GWs Presidency, our economy and that of the world were declining rapid during the last 2-3 years in office. During the summer of 2008, average gas prices were well over $4.00 per gallon nationwide. After the global economy crashed, gas quickly dropped and found its way briefly under $2.00 per gallon. This figure is what republicans would like us all to think was the average price during GW's leadership. It is a lie, and the only reason we got that low was due to the US and global economies crashing under republican leadership.

"A vote for Romney is a vote against the middle class."

I'm middle class and in the past three years:

1. I haven't received a raise

2. My 401k has gone down, not up.

3. Gas is more expensive.

4. Food is more expensive.

5. Utilities are more expensive.

6. My health insurance is going up due to ACA.

7. My taxes are going up.

Those are just some basic issues that Obama has caused in my personal backyard. That doesn't go into all the other issues he's caused around the country and around the world.

Obama has done a damn thing for me, he's made things worse. So I'm not sure how you can say Obama is for the middle class.

Honestly, reading what you libs say, the only thing I can think of is that you're living proof on how the Dept of Education has completely failed this country. Any smart independent/repub will not claim that Romney is going to fix everything in the country, but we will say that Romney will do a hell of a lot better than this fake in office has.

Romney lied....at least we know the DNC gets out the talking points on time.

So 70% or so of those who watched were stupid I guess, even the liberals, who said Romney won? Wow.

You guys have gone from hating half the country to hating 70%. I guess thats what progrssive means? Whats next?> Hating EVERYONE but yourself?

Liberals don't hate half of the country, it's your idiot who doesn't care about 47%.

hardtostarboard

demonizing Mitt Romney, on their own terms as second to none, the worst person on the planet.

let's be fair, Rick Santorum called Romney the worst Republican

and Newt Gingrich when asked point-blank in a nationally broadcast network interview if he was calling the former Massachusetts governor "a liar," the former House speaker replied, "Yes."

This is just the perfect storm the Republican camp wants - that our arrogant POTUS http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-audacity-of-arrogance/article/1208211 goes to the next debate with a combative attitude.

Then in his macho moment, he'll make unscripted (non-telepromter) lip flaps that Romney will jump all over like a crow on a cricket. Fact-checkers will have their field day and the public will see the POTUS as just a bag-o-wind. Polls will drop and any further hope for change will go out the door on Nov. 7th.

AlexM,

I'm not an Obama supporter and I will almost certainly vote for Romney, but if your 401k has truly gone down since Obama has been president, then I suggest getting a different financial adviser because the market has gone up considerably.

bahrrt

Boy, you make Forrest Gump look like a Rhodes Scholar. You know? Exposed? LOL. The only thing he exposed is the lack of backbone, brother.

Nearly, every single word that came from Etch's mouth was a complete flop, or flip, whichever you prefer from what he was running on for the last 18 months, Einstein.

Go take your meds, Z. You have become delirious from Etch-A-Stench BS!

Walks like a duck, acts like a duck, well you know.

LOL, more desperate anger from yet another Obamaphile who just can't stand the fact that his/her candidate is the biggest fake/phony/fraud since Clifford Irving.

Romney didn't change his position on anything.

But, he did shove the lies of Barrack Obama, and his spin-team right back down Obama's throat.

You can see how angry he/she is, with all the sarcasm, and rancor about Forrest Gump, Einstein and so forth.

You know, I've noticed that you really don't see much of that sort of thing from Romney supporters.

But, you see it all the time from the Obamaniacs

Kinda' makes you wonder what their IQ's really are, what grade in school they finished (or, are still in), and whether or not they're even old enough to vote.......?

One thing's for sure; I'm not going to get dragged into a "dozens" match with the likes of this guy.

The smarter, more mature choice for President is Mitt Tomney. The quick-footed-used-car-salesman's choice is Barrack Obama.

I know which one I'm picking!

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!!!!!!!!!!

NO $HIT POTUS!!!! When you get on the stage with "Two Faced Willard" have him explain his new positions, have him explain what deductions he'll do away with, have him explain the tax cuts to people like "HIMSELF"... have him explain how he wants to throw grandma under the bus for a voucher program!!!!

Get the Book...WHY SOBs SUCCEED WHERE NICE GUYS FAIL!!!!!!

quovadisusa

Baylie:

He claims he was too polite?

compared to how Santorum and Gingrich treated Romney during their debates, yeah, I would say Obam was TOO polite.

Tell me, you enjoy Romney's flip flops every time he speaks? Is there anything you could list that Romney has not flip-flopped on?

Elise: Anytime you use the AP as your "source" you have lost your argument before it even starts. The AP is about as corrupt as you can get regarding left leaning opinion - just look at the picture they released of Romney with the child standing behind him: THAT is credible journalism? I think not.......

All the welfare and food-stamp gamers are getting nervous.

And if any of you specifically think I am talking to you, 'if the shoe fits'.

Obama, I have a suggestion. At the next debate remind the voters what you said below:

2010: We are in the Summer of Recovery

2011: We are in the Summer of Recovery

2012: It's all George Bush's fault.

What a pathetic, useless, incompetent, and irresponsible president Obama is. Just four more weeks and we will have confirmation that he will be moving back to Chicago in January................

OregonPat you mean to tell that the current world economic is all GW fault. You give Obama 4 more years and if things get worst you still going to blame GW. Get over it. jimmy carter was better than this guy.

The ugly comments on here from the right-wing is only desperation. They know that one hour of Romney's aggressive lying is not going to save their *sses in the long run. It doesn't make his words magically turn true, and it won't stop Obama wiping the floor with him when simple facts are stated... once again.

Apparently, to many posting here, lying is the best policy.

The party that insists America needs leadership offers a liar as their candidate. But then, sheep do not need a leader, they need a goat....a Judas goat. Looks like they found the perfect guy for the job.

We can only hope that Obama thinks his problem was that he was too polite. Maybe now, Obama the Arrogant will show up and REALLY seal the deal for Romney.

Obama and team got caught way off guard by an opponent who was well prepared and confident. He brought ideas and numbers. Obama brought vague generalities, always expressed in way too many words.

I expect the next debate Obama will come out swinging and come across as an arrogant bully. That may work in front of 10,000 adoring fans (funny, but in 2008 it was 50,000) but it won't work in front of millions of Americans who are now ready for a mature adult in the White House.

Backhose,

Instead, he presented his own positive plans for the future of the middle class.

You must have watched something other than the debate because there was no plan laid out by Obama. It was just more of the same BS he has been saying since 2008. Here is also something he said back then “I will cut the defect in half in my first term" "if I cannot do this ten it should be a one term proposition". Well he hasn’t done that but it doesn't keep him from begging or his job even though he has only added to the problems. Tell me how does the great and powerful OZ still have you believing there will be any change from what is going on now because for FOUR years there has been no CHANGE and were we not promised that too. I know there we go with fats again you Libs should really read some of the BS you post here. If you even believe half of it the world is in far worse shape then even I thought and I think we are on the verge of a catastrophic failure in our economic system that will wipe out America or at least art another Revolutionary War. You believe your fairy tale though. I am prepared for the collapse as most sane people are, you probably not so much. You think hurricane Karina was bad that is going to be how the USA looks if Obama is elected again.

One last thing can you tell me why Obama did not do anything for the middle class when he had both sides of Congress for two years. That's right he was getting his tax hike on the middle class going even though he said here would not be one.

VOTE OBAMA THE FAILURE OUT IN 2012 FOR AMERICA

CA wrote:

"David Walker thinks it was so easy just to command facts yet the smartest man in the room had no command. How is that?"

He had command of the facts throughout the entire debate. It was Romney who had no command of the facts. Romney came, as always, prepared to lie.

I'll say it again. Every single person who watched that debate, who was in possession of the facts, was stunned by the magnitude of Romney's lies.

I've handed your ass to you before, and if you want to come here with anything more than your typical snarky one-line posts, I'll be happy to hand it to you again.

"Err, uhh, umm, err, ahh, you know, umm, uhhh, you you you know, umm, err, ahh, .......".

Amazing that Obama couldn't put a coherent sentence together without his teleprompter.............. Don't expect anything different in debate #2.

Liberals are world class / Phd level liars, so you gotta love their strategy of trying paint Romney with their brush.

Fact is Obama looked, acted, and responded like a panty-waste. He had ample time to address anything and everything, and looked completely outclassed.

So this next debate we can expect the "angry agressive" Obama - no answers, no plan, and no excuses for his utter catastrophic failures, but he will be more "active".

Poor libs, your lies didn't work, the public is not buying what you're selling, and you sound more desperate with each passing day.

It's ok, it will take years to unravel the give-aways Harry, Nancy and Barry have put in place for y'all.

He had command of the facts throughout the entire debate.

really, seems like only a handful like yourself seem to believe that. heck the networks went right to fact checking post debate.

Every single person who watched that debate, who was in possession of the facts, was stunned by the magnitude of Romney's lies.

is that a fact LOL

I've handed your ass to you before,

Sure Mickey NY. you funny little libs with your pompous arrogance. never gets old.

you think highly of yourself David, your long winded boring rants are just that. Thats ok, I enjoy watching people knock you off your God Complex. Vale little guy

I'll be happy to hand it to you again.

I'll wait with bated breath i assure you

David,

If that was true and Obama was prepared with the facts, then Obama should have been able to easily respond and point out the lies Romney was telling.

So, either Obama wasn't prepared with the facts, or Romney wasn't lying. Either way, it was a very poor performance by Obama.

The "polite" thing is just an excuse. You can politely tell someone else they are lying. In fact, Romney did this several times to Obama during the debate.

As others have said, if Obama comes out in attack dog mode like many here seem to be hoping for, I predict that will be the nail in the coffin for his campaign. Independents like me (that voted for Obama in 08) want the candidates to deal with facts, not mud-slinging.

Wow, Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL gets her info from http://www.addictinginfo.org/.

Couldn't find a more biased site. BTW, I've seen other links you've posted... just as bad.

These other posters are correct. You are a mindless troll. Looks like Beverly in Chicago and Backhouse are in the same boat. Not an original thought among you.

The people voting your comments up are just as mindless.

Too Polite?!

Wow, it only took him one week to come up with that lame excuse??!!

Wasn't he laughing at himself for doing so poorly? Which one is it?!

He is clueless, unqualified and a weak leader at best!

OBAMA NEEDS TO GO!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

.....and the rest of you liberal excuses for obama out there....can you hear that??? What is it, you ask???

Why, it's the "Fat Lady" singing for obama!

You see he and his administration have just been caught in another cover up lie regarding the terrorist attack that killed our ambassador and several others in Libya. None other than the State Dept. has blown the whistle on him and the others who were covering up this murderous act of terrorism by calling it a random act over and over again until there was no other way out but to tell the truth. AND the polls are NOW showing Romney with a +5% lead........Oh, there's that "Fat Lady" singing obamas song again! I know you all can hear it now!

So Obama feels that he can do better in the debates and cover up his failed policies and the facts by being rude. The President's administration said that unemployment would now be less than 6% but instead it stands at 7.8%. The President promised that the 2012 federal deficit would not exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet it actually exceeded 1.1 trillion dollars. The President has mentioned the idea of starting to pay down the debt but his administration is predicting huge deficits for at least another decade. The President has yet to present a plan for paying back all of this money that the federal government has been borrowing so that the tax payers can know how much all this borrowing is really going to cost them. It is too bad that the President had to confront the truth by debating the real Romney rather than the Romney of his campaign's imagination. Maybe at the next debate, some name calling and a few cheap shots thrown at Romney will make up for what has actually been happening in the middle east.

backhouse,

It's brain-trusts like you that got the idiot elected in 2008. Blind to everything but reality.

As you stated "LIE AFTER LIE, AFTER BLAME AND ACCUSE. How will you respond in a few minutes? What time is left to present the Truth?" Have you forgotten that all that came out of obama's mouth for FOUR (4) years is "BUSH DID IT! BUSH DID IT!

No other president EVER blamed the previous presidents' policy effects for more then ONE year.

Beware of the false Prophet....

Bill+numbers - The definition of a Romney lie is not when he disagrees with Obama, it is when he disagrees with what he, himself, has been saying of the last 2 years.

AlexM+numbers - your taxes have gone down, not up. Obama has reduced taxes on everyone who gets a paycheck. If you'll look back at yours over the last 5 years you will see that your deductions are less since Obama was elected.

The President is a gentleman and I can see why he was not only taken off guard by the GOP Chameleon changing positions at the podium, but I also thought that President Obama had too much class and dignity to engage in a shouting match. That is one of his best attributes -- keeping it cool when the pressure is on.

Whether he does well in the next debate or not, it does not change the class act he has been while in office and the confidence that millions of Americans have in him.

I am still trying to figure out where Romney stands on education. His plan was to cut Pell Grants for college students all along, a big issue with folks like me with two kids in college (yes, I am one of the 47% of freeloaders in the country whose sons go to college on merit-based scholarships, family assistance, and a small percentage paid by Pell Grants while each of them work outside jobs, too).

Now, during the debate, suddenly Romney switches gears and says he is not cutting education.

So .... which is it NOW?

And how do I know when it will change again?

Obama says he was to polite to Romney at this first debate? Baww, hahahahaha!

I really thought he was gonna blame it all on Bush, again!! Oh, I know...I think obama really meant to say he was just light in the head - smartest man in the room? didn't impress me or a lot of other people either, but I'm sure he did the best he could given his limited intellect...he knows when he's in over his head.

Come on you people, as strongly as he was attacking Romney for months and then when he had the chance to seal the deal he punks out?? then says this? Are you people really THAT stupid - oh wait, you all voted for him the first time around, so yeah, I'd say you all WERE/ARE all that stupid!

Bawwww, hahahahah, sorry I just can't stop laughing!

You know I dont believe the polls just as they were for Obama as they are now for Romhead. The fact of the matter is that I think they did this so Democrates won;t vote Prove them wrong Nov 6th and Vote with me for champion of the middle class

Barak Obama and Joe Biden 2012

Hey Richard and Izzy,

Why can't we bring up George Bush's Administration? Bush and Cheney ruled for eight years. They just left the White House less than four years ago and when they did, they left an economic catastrophe that almost led to global financial collapse.

His Administration put us in the dire straits we now have, and the GOP congress has selfishly done NOTHING to help get us out of their own party's colossal damages.

The most obvious empty chair at the Republican National Convention belonged to George Bush. Wonder why the GOP didn't want him there? Clinton was at the Democratic Convention. Hey, where was Bush? Why was his name never mentioned? He just left the Oval Office less than four years ago. Why does the GOP want everyone to forget about him? Oh that's right ... Bush and his puppeter, Cheney, put us in this deep hole that President Obama has so diligently been working to get us out of with NO help from the Republicans and their New Mother the Tea Party.

I, for one, plan to give a shout-out every day from this day forward until the election to remind people what Bush and Cheney did to our country before they bailed out with their golden retirement plans to a soft landing on their luxury ranches in Texas and Wyoming.

The Republicans may wish us to forget what the Bush Adminstration did, but only someone with short-term memory loss could forget what happened the last time the GOP was in office -- two wars and financial chaos that nearly caused global financial collapse.

A vote for Romney is the same thing as a vote for four more years of
Bush and Cheney.

silverton-2953905

President Obama had too much class and dignity to engage in a shouting match. That is one of his best attributes -- keeping it cool when the pressure is on.

Obama makes excuses for islamic terrorist after they invade our consulate and kill our ambassador.............and NOW you make excuses for him, calling him a man of class and dignity? - WOW you got one "mutual admiration society" going on there! Please, for health reasons, make sure that obama baths regularly before you continue kissing his azz!

Oh yeah, he's cool, all right!

Silverton: Maybe we don't bring up Bush and Cheney because they are no longer president and vice-president - and haven't been for going on four years.

Why doesn't Obama just run on his record? Oh, never mind.........

"Too polite" might be code for dropping the bucken football. Next time most Democrats are hoping that the President slam dunks that lyin' GOP sumbitch every time he open his big yap.

AlexM-3929653

I'm middle class and in the past three years:

1. I haven't received a raise

you want the president to give u a pay raise? how so?

2. My 401k has gone down, not up.

If ur 401K has gone down, either u or financial manager has bigger issues than can be explained here... the average 401k has gone up more than 50%.... you clearly have a problem... and it's displaced.

3. Gas is more expensive.

Government can't truly control this

4. Food is more expensive.

nothing to do with Obama's policies.

5. Utilities are more expensive.

nothing to do with Obama's policies.

6. My health insurance is going up due to ACA.

Health insurance has gone up at the slowest pace since 1950

Sorry, but you are too stupid to know this.

7. My taxes are going up.

how in the world is that possible.... taxes have gone down under Obama (FACT!!!!!)

Those are just some basic issues that Obam

My simple summation is that you are an idiot.... stop thinking, procreating or voting... I'm sorry, but that's the diagnoses I could come up with. Educate yourself and vote back in President Obama.

Silverton,

I'm not Bush fan, but to put all of the blame for the crash on him is disingenuous at best. The financial meltdown was at least 15 years in the making (and I think it dated back to changes made in the 70's), and both parties supported policies that lead to the collapse.

Trying to say the collapse was just (or mostly) due to Bush is just a partisan rewrite of history.

Please there is enough to attack Romney on without including his religion. Harry Reid is also a Mormon, and he stands with O'bama. When progressives attack Romney for his religion its no better then regressives attacking O'bama for his Muslim ancestry.

bayllie:

Flip flop? How's closing Gitmo working out for you? This President is flipping by his words and flopping by his deeds. In case you didn't process that one too well, try this: Says one thing, does another...

baylie...

Although I know you like to dwell in 'conspiracies'...none to be found here. All I know is that readers and viewers have been instructed for 5 years now on just how vastly superior Mr. Obama's intelligence is to just about any living or dead human being put up for comparison. Oh that 'Myth'..he's such a dolt. Just about anyone else too !

Sorry...but I have not seen any indication over the past 5 years that this President has any vast reservoir of intelligence. Where's the beef ? While being promoted as the genius the country so desperately needed, I would have thought there'd be some sliver of proof ! And while the media even had gotten hold of George Bush's elementary school report card, they apparently showed very little interest in providing any backup info while they were busy telling the nation how lucky it was to have this vastly knowledgable man offering to save us all from ourselves.

From what sane minds have witnessed, not a heck of lot of proof of the man's intelligence exists. And on top of that, he has the leadership skills of a back row lemming.

And what difference would any educational look at Mr. Romney's history make?

Based on his near historic achievement at Harvard, based on his incredibly successful business career, and based on the way he stepped up to successfully run the United States Olympic program after the attacks on 9-11...the only souls who would choose to ever question the intelligence levels of Mr. Romney are the darkened sould here on Newsvine.

It sure has taken Obama's staff quite a long time to come up with his latest excuse. I can only guess that Bush is still to blame for everything else. For me it all comes down to the White House dog. The President said that the White House dog would be a mutt, "like me" from a shelter yet the dog they got was a pure bread who has never set foot in a shelter. Imagine, the President is suppose to be the most powerful man in the free world yet he cannot keep his word on something as trivial as the White House dog. Maybe it was Bush's fault or maybe the President was just too polite about the matter. AT least if he claims that he was too polite he is recognizing that it was his fault.

silverton...

And you might add that a vote for Mr. Obama is "the same thing" as a vote for four more years of Mr. Obama.

A truly frightful concept indeed.

President Obama was too polite to Romney.

Obama should have deluged Romney with the facts.

The facts: It is GOP economic policies that have brought economic turmoil to America. Because of the GOP's skewed ideology our unemployment numbers swelled, millions of our citizens lost their homes, countless citizens lost their retirements and investments, the banks required a 25 billion dollar bailout, all because of 2 wars and the lofty tax breaks and giveaways to the rich.

The only reason it can be difficult to respond to Mitt, is that one never knows which lie Mitt is going to tell.

Obama/Biden 2012

I have been watching this political campaign since the primaries. It made me sick to my stomach watching Romney spew out lie after lie during the first debate. Not only was President Obama too polite, I also believe he should have been better prepared for this much dishonesty from Romney.

During the second debate the President needs to call Romney out every time he lies and show America what Romney is; Just a dishonest and sleazy empty shirt that can not be trusted with the awesome responsibility of the presidency.

Hey PROBUSINESS - I can get you articles from other sources than the AP - just google it dude.

ALSO the guy whose 401k is not doing well - I am in the finance business - I would suggest you go to your employer and get your investments changed. Most of our clients are doing very well during 3rd Quarter.

one only needs to read these forums to come to the conclusion that the U.S.A. is doomed...

AlexM:

I, too, am in the middle class. I have worked since I was a kid - holding a full time job since I was 18. I have never taken a dime of "entitlement" money.

I have paid for my own health care insurance my whole life as well AND I have always paid into Medicare with the promise that, when I retire I will have a pre-paid health care insurance. It isn't an entitlement! I worked for it and paid for it! If Romney would (somehow) win this election I, and others my age, will be thrown to the wolves (insurance industry). It is a breach of contract with the American people.

If I make payments on something there is a point at which that 'something' should be delivered. Romney / Ryan could not possibly care less about whether or not the working middle class people have access to quality health care. They get theirs paid by THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING SCREWED OUT OF IT!

You say you haven't received a raise in the past 3 years. Too bad for you. Maybe your employer is telling you something about your job performance or using the "economy" as an excuse for not giving raises while banking even more profits for himself. Either way, you have a job. If yo had been employed by one of the myriad companies Romney's Bain Capital scavenged, you would be on the street without a pot.

If your 401k has gone down, not up, as you say, then you need to have someone else handle it for you. Everyone I know saw a downturn for a while but they have all recouped and are ahead of where they were 3 years ago.

You complain that gas is more expensive. It is ... and the Wall Street speculators are making a killing on it ... selling it 20 or more times before the price "trickles down" to us. Wall Street needs to be strapped with tighter regulations so they are no longer to hold the American people hostage to their gluttony. Dodd-Frank is the starting point, but Romney wants to protect his Wall Street buddies and has promised to overturn it and LOOSEN banking and Wall Street regulations.

Food is more expensive because the fuel to get the food to market is higher (see above paragraph) AND we have a horrible drought this year that decimated the crops. Many point to climate change as the reason for the drought and president Obama is trying to help curb that problem. Romney, on the other hand, wants us to blow off mountaintops, drill in the National Parks and basically allow big oil, gas & coal to do whatever the heck they want, regardless of the ecological damage, as long as they are making the 1% a lot of money.

Electric prices, nationwide, have risen at a rate of about 1% per year under president Obama, less than in previous years and less than inflation. That is a reasonable increase for any industry to make.

Your health insurance is not going up because of ACA. It is going up because the insurance industry is gouging individuals and employers who provide health insurance to their employees. Again, president Obama wants to regulate the insurance industry. Romney wants to force Americans out of Medicare and into that industry's greedy paws.

You say your taxes are going up ... which taxes? If it's your income tax, then you must be in an upper end income and are, under president Obama, being asked to pay the same percentage as all other Americans. Don't whine to me about it. If someone making $50,000.00 a year has to pay 23% then someone making $50 million should be paying the SAME PERCENTAGE. It is NOT the bottom line that matters ... it is equality. A percentage is a percentage, regardless of the total.

What other "issues he's caused around the country and around the world."? He has put Israel on notice that we will not be drawn into another war that we cannot afford. He has been an excellent statesman and represented our nation well. Unlike Romney who had hoof-in-mouth disease on his European tour.

You say you do not sure how you can say Obama is for the middle class. He has provided tax breaks for middle income working people. Romney says he doesn't care about them. He has ended the was in Iraq, so far kept us out of a war with Iran (Romney wants us to send in troops), is pulling us responsibly out of Afghanistan (Romney thinks we should stay there until we get control of that country), has saved the American auto industry and all the jobs that go along with it and that loan was repaid with interest (Romney said we should let them go bankrupt), he is making strides in upgrading our public education system (Romney plans to destroy that system and promote private schools).

You call me a "lib", but I say I am a taxpaying, hard-working American. I don't ask for hand-outs, but I damned sure want what I have paid for.

You say that "any smart independent/repub will not claim that Romney is going to fix everything in the country, but we will say that Romney will do a hell of a lot better than this fake in office has." Well it is Romney ... your chosen saint ... who is saying that HE WILL FIX EVERYTHING. Is he lying?

President Obama said that it was not going to be an easy road. Romney has said that it's easy to fix the problem ... just elect him ... he'll do it in no time flat ... but he's not going to tell us how until he's elected.

Sorry, I believe that America is on the right road. It may not be the quickest path but, in the end, it is the correct one.

A vote for Romney is a vote against the middle class.

Obama / Biden 2012

hypnoticfreedom

one only needs to read these forums to come to the conclusion that the U.S.A. is doomed...

I agree to a point. We have never been so divided in our ideologies - both left and right are adamant in their philosophies. Congress is the same, too. But I believe both sides (citizens that is - congress is particularily against us - why...they make laws and and exclude themselves) want whats best and they think their man is the best one for the job. I, too, have my choice and once again I am reminded of what my father told me years ago, he said, that the best man for president would never run for the office so, son, you are left to vote for what you believe would be the least of two evils. In the years since then, when I've voted I've faced that same dilemma at each election time. Maybe our forefathers were right when they stated that citizen-politicians were desired...those that would come to office, do a service then go home - never did they expect, I believe, that we would one day be faced with career politicians whose only true goal in their careers is to get re-elected. Most come in to office as rich men/women, some come to office not too rich but when they leave they are........! It is a compilation of their ineptitude's, over the years, that have brought us to this point. What to do about it - it's your guess!

A vote for Obama is a vote for no more full time jobs or company benifitts from what I have been reading and seeing on every single news channel.

I do not know what kind of doobie Mr. President Obama had before the debate, but was definitely focused on the podium or his shoes. Maybe the wood grain of the podium was moving and he kept it from moving by staring at it.

Does this mean Mr. President Obama was clueless without his teleprompter? Give him a ipad with someone typing to him that knows the answers. He needs help. Obama needs a lot of help.

No Obama, your demeanor was fine. You were simply out-schooled.

What we found out from the fist debate:

Romney likes regulations.

Mitt will not cut taxes on the rich.

Mitt is for gay marriage.

Mitt won't restrict abortion.

Mitt will extend student loans.

Basically, Romney will out liberal-ed... Obama!

Too polite? Our President is in bad need of a vacation.

Too polite? Ha, ha, ha, ha How about too dumb, stupid, ignorant. What a joke? Can't wait for the next Romney and loser debate. Getting my popcorn and Coke ready now.

It was obvious who was the better man for the job after that debate.

Oh hey Roselle and fan club, why does it get you excited about Obama getting down right dirty. Maybe it's because he's not savy enough to do it on intellegence, experience and character.

Oh and as far as the wisecrack about his religion, I don't remember seeing Mitt at any of Rev. Wrights radical sermon's.

Romney and Ryan are the modern day Romulus and Remus sucking on the teats of their wolf-mother, the Tea Party.

Even most Republicans secretly hate the TP. Why do you think so many of them are jumping ship and becoming Dem's or Moderates?

The GOP just ain't the Grand Old Party that it used to be.

tony-268769

baylie...

Although I know you like to dwell in 'conspiracies'...none to be found here.

what you are doing is speculating on Romney's "intelligence" even though you know nothing about his grades. You dismiss Obama's inelligence" because you claim his records are sealed.

You know nothing about either man's transcripts yet you pretend one is smarter than the other based on the info YOU DON'T HAVE.

BTW, who had it easier as a student: One working to support himself while at Harvard or one with a house paid for, education paid for, and a trust fund to live off of?

Silverton,

President Obama has so diligently been working to get us out of with NO help from the Republicans and their New Mother the Tea Party.

Classic Lib BS. It was actually Clinton that got us on this path with the lax lending standards he pushed for. Someone that make minimum wage can buy a $500,000 house with no money down. Do some research better yet here?

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/06/the-true-origins-of-this-finan

Also the president had two years where Dem controlled the House and the Senate. What did Obama do then? Nothing! You Libs bi*ch about Bush but Obama has spent more in ½ the time in office then Bush spent in 8 years in office and yes it was disgraceful what Bush spent so what does that say about Obama. There was one big difference Bush had an unemployment rate of 5.3% for the 8 years and Obamas is 8.9% for his four years, now tell me who was better if your life depends on working and not living off of the gubment? Where’s my gubment cheese and my check?

Don’t worry Little Libby’s Obama will come out in the next debate as angry Obama and point out what a tragedy it is that Romney said he would fire Big Bird since that has been worked into every one of his speeches as of the last debate. That is sure not what is important to me whether Big Bird stays on or not but let’s cut everything including the size of gubment or there are going to be dire consequences that follow. I know all of you that rely on the government of things thinks this is unfair what is unfair is that only 47% of us work to take care of 53% of you. Most of you have no reason to be not working. Before you twist my words like you do Romney if you are disabled yes the government should take care of you. Social Security should be kept and only given to those that work. The number of years you worked should determine how much Social Security you get and if you made just above the poverty level when working you should get more money than those of us that make above the poverty level but it should be based on how many years you worked. If you don’t want to work then don’t ask for money if you can work. Clinton did do something like no other Dem president he put a cap on how long you could collect welfare and that needs to be reinstated. Like I said there are more pressing issues than Big Bird. Then again that should show you Libs just how incompetent Obama is.

It should be taken as an insult to everyone that voted for Obama that he is more worried about what will happen to Big Bird over what happens to you and I.

Interesting....many of us can repeatedly tell Feisty and her clueless minions on this forum that they're full of shyt, but the great and powerful O doesn't have the balls or enthusiasm to do the same when his job is at stake?

~~If you're not totally outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention!~~

Bill, before you get too hot under your collar, I should tell you that I have been called a bleeding liberal and a teabagger on the same day in this forum. It makes me feel good. Means I'm a free thinker and not voting for any particular party just because my daddy or grandaddy did. But, if it allows you to let off some steam by labeling people, go ahead.

It's amusing when people try to blame Clinton for anything other than philandering (which of course, he is guilty there). But, for the economy? LOL. Everybody knows that there was a surplus budget when Clinton left office. That's why the Dem's love to have Clinton around in public settings. The guy did a great job as President.

And yes, I agree, it was terrible about the 47% freeloader remark that Romney was secretly taped making. A true depiction of the man's character.

Gee, when Romney was secretly recorded talking to wealthy donors at $ 50,000 a plate, he said condescendingly that 47% of Americans were freeloaders who didn't want to better their lives and wanted hand-outs. He was completely oblivious to the fact that part of that 47% were waiting on him hand and foot in that very room, serving him and his champagne drinking buddies their meals and refreshing their wine glasses.

I had some respect for Mitt Romney before that incident, but a person as calloused as that does not deserve a political position of any kind in this country.

Can you imagine what it would be like if Romney actually was elected and was the leader of those moochers that he despises?

I shudder to think.

Obama thought he won the debate !

Now that is funny

A bully is not a leader.

And a debate is not an election.

The 1st. debate is done...... So did anyone in here change their intended position or proposed vote choice...... I seriously doubt it. You are all waiting to see how those next 2 debates go right.... Yea Right!!! LOL.

So what does that say, beside that fact that none of us in here, including myself, are gonna be open minded this time around. The AP, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, HLN, and FOX are all corrupt, but only 1 leans Right... and Lefties can deal with it..... LOL.

Was anyone surprised Romney out spoke a teleprompter-less Barry Soetoro,... well, I was. I actually thought Barry would mop the floor with Romney. As you can tell, I didn't have high expectations of Romney, but he surprised me. Which is more than I can say about Barry's 1st. term. He delivered exactly what I expected.... which is nothing but broken promises, a Bigger-Fatter-Hungrier Government, Lots of luxury vacations on our dime, and while we suffer, Lots of Golf Games, and being an all around perfect hypocrite. No more, no less.

And is anyone surprised that Barry's response to his poor performance is to blame it on anything but himself. Romney Lied.... LMAO, how lame is that. I suppose you Liberals really believe that crap, while at the same time swallowed Michelle Soetoro's speech hook-line and sinker, about rusty cars with holes, and big over-powering student loans from their ivy league college... Harvard gards,.... Yea Right!!!

Well read this and weep fools.....

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/05/Fact-Check-Michelle-Obama-s-False-Fairy-Tale-of-Struggle

Ole Barry doesn't even know how to be a man, by admitting that he just fell short on his debate performance, and promise (again) to pick up his game. All you liberals got from your puppet boy was just another Lame-Ass Excuse blaming his failure on someone else. Where does the buck stop with Barry, no one will ever know.... except for the fall-guy.

The fact is, Barry's got nothing to brag about, he didn't produce on his promises, and the intangible idea of HOPE, CHANGE & YES WE CAN has been used up, and dried out. There's nothing left in Lefties big bag of tricks, except for lies, distortion of the truth, and blame someone else..... There are No Jobs, No Economic Growth, GITMO's still there, The Terrorist weren't bought to NY for Trial (Thank God, or is it Allah), The Big Wall Street Banks Got bailed-out and their Exec's built golden parachutes before jumping ship, The Big Ass Wall Street Insurance Companies got bailed out and their Exec's built golden parachutes before jumping ship, The No. of Food Stamp Recipients has grown by more than 50%, Barry's good friend Rod Biglogofshyt is behind bars, GM and Obama's Co-Owner Union Buddies got bailed out, and still ultimately filed for Chap. 11 and then failed to pay back the loan in it's entirety, Chrystler and Obama's Co-Owner Union Buddies got bailed out, and still ultimately filed for Chap. 11 and failed to pay back the tax payer loan in it's entirety, Solara and a whole slew of other "Green Jobs" companies received a couple billion in government loans, before promptly filing for Chap. 11 and failing to pay back America, The Assclowns that voted for and passed Obamycare's dream of socialized medicine excluded themselves for having to participate in what the dropped onto us. Isn't that fair and just...... NO!... 10% of American's either refuse to buy or can't afford Health Insurance..... so the remaining 90%, businesses in particular have to pick up the tab..... doesn't that make perfect sense.... NO!

About the only good thing Barry did was to use Bush and Chenny's personal team of assassin's (As Obama once refered to Seal Team 6) to take out Osama Bin Laden. Then, Barry shows us his true narcissistic personality by playing it up as all his doing. And adding insult to injury, ole Barry sell's out the poor Pakistani doctor who was the real hero, now that poor basturds rotting in a hole, if not dead already. Want to know about Barry's foreign policy... expect nothing more than a bow and an apology for American being a powerful nation. Or you could just ask Chris Stevens'... whoops, too late for that... a random act of violence killed him.

Romney is a Chameleon.

He came up with a whole new set of facts for the debate. Changes his color from day to day depending on who he's talking to.

Excuse me, Mr. Romney, you've been saying for the last twelve months that you were going to cut Pell Grants for college students, and the day of the debate you say that you are not cutting education.

So ... which is it?

It can't be both.

And hey, what about that 47% freeloader remark? Oh, that's right ... you got caught on tape with that one ... so now you have to say you were "completely wrong." Sounds to me like you are "completely dishonest" too.

But, hey, what do I know? I am just one of the 47% of moochers that is trying to send two sons through college with a small assistance from Pell Grants. After paying taxes for over forty years, excuse me for mooching off the government while my straight A sons go to college on merit-based scholarships they earned, family assistance we provide, both of them working jobs while in school, and a little help each semester from Pell Grants that help to ease the burden.

Sorry you despise us 47%. Wish we could have afforded to pay cash out of our pocket in full for our sons' undergraduate and post-graduate degrees like you did for your five sons, but, if you could just let us freeloaders know what will happen with education if you're elected, some of us would be interested in knowing.

We just can't tell since you keep changing colors.

If Mr. President Obama is pinning his hopes of winning the presidential race, has he already gotten a condo for Biden to move in with him in Hawaii?

There is no way an old man like Joe Biden will have the facts and figures down like Ryan will. Joe Biden will also make the usual mistakes. Having Joe Biden for VP is like having a mix of silly putty.

The VP debate should at least be entertaining.

Feisty

Your comments are becoming more frequent and less convincing.

Ready to switch sides?

Cesar

The last presidential election in Iran saw street protests and violent repression. This next election in the face of great economic hardship due to sanctions may see even greater turmoil.

The Ayatollah Khamanei holds the real power in Iran, but he will be forced to make a calculation on whether another round of street protests and riots and counterattacks is worth the risk of continuing with a nuclear weapons program.

Thus, an opportunity exists for a deal to be struck to end nuclear weapons program and the sanctions, so Iran's economy can improve. The key to a successful negotiation revolves around Iran's leaders being able to save face.

One possible scenario is for Khamanei to blame whole mess on the current President Achmadinijad via his chosen President in the next election. Thus, in the next election, Khamanei's candidate for President would run on ending the sanctions through negotiations while disavowing any interest in nuclear weapons. It is possible. And it fits our timetable as well.

Feisty: Obama was not polite -- he was scared S**tless. Take off the rose colored glasses.

what insane usama meant to say is he is too phucking stupid to be debating. His lies and failures got shoved right back up his a$$. Kill him Romney. Get this nasty piece of crap out of our white house now.

feisty phuckhead is too far up ubamas a$$. she is getting the kool-aid before ubamas is

Obama has already helped the economy since the debate, Big Bird Halloween costumes are flying off the shelves. Way to go Obama and maybe during the next debate you should bring this point out; it would certainly be the best point that you could possibly make being that you have done nothing during your term. Oh, wait, I'm wrong, you put us 6 Trillion dollars deeper in debt, no new jobs as promised, but let's not forget that you geared up and you, Michelle and Oprah went over to Pakistan and killed Osama.

But fear not my fellow Americans, if you vote for me I promise that I will fly off at my leisure to a basketball game on Air Force One at $186,000 per hour and catch a ball game. I won't let you down on that one, trust me, I'm the president.

It just goes to show you that without his little tele-prompter he's not worth the toilet paper that was stuck to the bottom of his shoe at the last debate.

And tonight ......... Ryan will have Joe 'Bumbling' Biden against the ropes and rope-a-dope that fool. It will be fun to watch.

Its a Liberal love in. Poor poor Obama... He was taken advantage of...

You guys keep focusing there and the country will be just fine on election day!

Big Bird Halloween costumes are flying off the shelves

Ironic, because the makers of Seseme Street get royalties for all merchandise. More reason to not fund with tax money.

BTW, seems to me that little Tickle Me Elmo which sells pretty good, and the past Muppet movies and TV shows and ongoing Disney deal, and recent big screen feature movie probably brought in a few bucks, you would think they would not need any money at all.

It's well-known that in Debate, the knee-jerk reaction (which immediately loses the point being attempted, and does it totally) is the ad hominem fallacy. This is, translated, the ultimate of juvenile name-calling ... "attacking the man not the issue."

And how Obama's followers try to emulate him. "Lies, lies, on the 4th of Julys" we used to sing when we were kids. Utter nonsense. Facts proved and Sources quoted, with Logic an imperative are essential in a real debate.

Mr. Obama calls himself "too polite"? My, my he's running high. However, I suggest there is another reason for such a silly statement.

--- Note the generals he got rid of, fired! who'd been put in charge of the Afghan fighting by our President, long after we had completed the original goal... which was to find and destroy the origins of 9/11.

--- He called the news reporters in to witness his shabby firing job of dedicated, intelligent, skilled top military. He wanted to go public? The newspersons to come to the Oval Office for a theatrical show he'd scripted, when he, himself, was perpetrating the war?

My, my, he is, after all, up in the sky being Commander in Chief of the Military.

--- This is the POTUS who sent bombers over Libya without Congressional ratification, calling it "presidential mandate" when questioned about it. This Attack by us totally broke the laws of our Constitution. We had NOT been attacked by Libya. This was not a Defense (which is provided under our laws). Libya had NOT attacked our American homeland as did 9/11.

--- This Polite Gentleman is our head honcho (he figures) who thinks we should unilaterally grant Amnesty to Illegal Aliens. I question him, what part of the word "Illegal" does he not understand? I'll help him. The hordes who swamp us here and deluge us with taking our jobs away, having babies by the dozens and send for their cousins... and their aunts... they already have broken the laws of this land.

Mr. Obama could not, I think, use the word "polite" to describe himself.

Seems to me a more accurate word is "ignoramus," to be kind.

The President is a great guy but he fails to keep his promise.

Without conditions to include any act of congress the President vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first administration. In the debate, Romney called him on this, and the President just left it on the table. To keep the President's promise the 2012 federal deficit should not have exceeded 229.27 billion dollars yet it has exceeded 1.1 trillion dollars. What makes this really bad is the current debt. I estimate, that because the federal government is already more than 16 trillion dollars in debt, the money that the federal government is borrowing today will end up costing the tax payers 10 times the amount borrowed to repay over the next 180 years. The problem is that before the federal government can even begin to pay back the new debt it has to pay off the old debt. While paying off the old debt, interest still has to be paid on the new debt. The higher the existing debt, the higher the multiplication factor. Having to borrow money for things that will provide little or no return on investment is bad enough, but having to borrow money when we are already over our head in debt is even worse.

Just before the stimulus bill was passed, the Obama administration issued a report that promised that if the stimulus were passed that unemployment would not exceed 8% and that now unemployment would be less than 6%. According to the federal government unemployment is now at 7.8%. The President called the stimulus bill a spending bill and other federal budgets were increased to increase Federal spending. The federal government under Obama has been trying to flood the economy with cash but the effort has failed to turn the economy around. Where is all this money going, well overseas of course. Our trade deficit is staggering.

I doubt that ediquet had anything to do with Obama's losing the debate. It was the facts that got him.