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If Mitt Romney were going to win this election, this is how he would do it.
Throughout the summer and well into the fall, the Republican nominee’s campaign dismissed handwringing over the candidate’s missteps and his inability to overtake President Barack Obama.
Their theory of 2012 has always emphasized keeping the race close enough heading into its homestretch, allowing Romney to use the debates and voters’ underlying frustration toward the economy to catapult past Obama.
And now, Republicans say Romney’s well-positioned to do just that.
The presidential candidates have descended into Ohio, a vital state – especially for Mitt Romney. If Romney loses that state, he will have to win six of the remaining seven swing states. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
Two new, national polls released this week showed Romney with the lead over Obama, an achievement the GOP hopeful had rarely managed this general election.
Gallup’s daily tracking poll showed Romney leading Obama, 49 to 47 percent, in its rolling average of respondents contacted between Oct. 2-8. That span of time includes both last Wednesday’s debate as well as last Friday’s jobs report, showing the unemployment rate had fallen to 7.8 percent in September.
The Gallup results followed a Pew poll released Monday and conducted entirely after the debate, which showed Romney leading Obama among likely voters, 49 to 45 percent.
Lynne Sladky / AP
Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, right, waves as he arrives with his wife Ann at a campaign rally, Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012, in Port St. Lucie, Fla.
“This is a campaign that’s never gotten too high when things are good, too low when things are bad,” Romney senior adviser Kevin Madden told reporters traveling with the candidate on Tuesday. “I think you can’t put too much stock in this idea of momentum. I think it’s a very elusive thing. We still believe that this is going to be a campaign that’s very close, and but we do see a lot of enthusiasm from a lot of our core supporters, and we do see a lot of undecided voters that are taking a new look at Gov. Romney.”
But if Romney were to sustain his burst from a successful first debate and beat Obama, it would represent a vindication of a strategy that’s been openly questioned in the media and among fellow Republicans for months.
During the worst moments for Romney – his opaque responses to the administration’s actions on same-sex marriage and immigration, his response to the Supreme Court’s ruling on health care, the Obama campaign’s attacks on Romney’s tax returns and record at Bain, Romney’s error-riddled foreign trip, his quick response to a terrorist attack in Libya – its leadership maintained a zen-like confidence in Romney’s ability to win according to their gameplan.
Eric Fehrnstrom, a senior advisor for the Romney campaign, talks the current ground game for the GOP presidential candidate following his post-debate bounce in the polls.
"The public polls are what the the public polls are. I kinda hope the Obama campaign is basing their campaign on what the public polls say," Romney political adviser Rich Beeson told reporters a few weeks ago, when polls weren't treating the campaign as well. "We don’t. We have confidence in our data and our metrics ... I feel confident where we are in each one of our states. I have great faith in our data.”
Criticism peaked with the release of a surreptitiously-recorded video last month of Romney speaking in May at a fundraiser, at which he essentially dismissed 47 percent of voters, who he said were “dependent” on government.
“It seemed like people were ready to write the obituary. But the strategy has always been to never get too high and never get too low,” said Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus.
President Obama's latest campaign pit stop was San Francisco while an invigorated Mitt Romney drew support in Virginia. Both candidates are striking hard on foreign policy after two national polls show a volatile race following last week's first debate. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
But he acknowledged that Romney’s position had improved as a result of the debate: “We'd rather be sitting where we are today than we were two weeks ago.”
Of course, if Romney does execute this turnaround, it wouldn’t come a moment too soon. His campaign had also counted on Romney’s vice presidential selection and his nominating convention to move things in the Republican’s direction, though neither appeared to accomplish that goal.
The task now for Romney now involves sustaining the uptick in momentum he’s apparently received as a result of last week’s debate. Even if the bump for Romney is a temporary sugar high, the GOP hopeful now has his chance to convert this surge in energy into sustained momentum.
One of the biggest keys for Romney is to turn in two more solid debate performances on Oct. 16 and Oct. 22, and hope that vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan ably handles himself versus Vice President Joe Biden during their lone matchup on Thursday.
Will Mitt Romney's surge in national polling translate into gains where it matters – the battleground states of the Midwest – Iowa, Wisconsin and Ohio. The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd reports.
The more significant – and practical – challenge for the Romney campaign involves erasing Obama’s heretofore advantage in most swing states. While national polls offer a good sense of the trajectory of each candidate’s momentum, the election is, after all, a race to 270 electoral votes.
To that end, Romney is heading to Ohio for the next few days to concentrate his efforts in the Buckeye State. He was set to make a joint appearance with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie during the trip.
Ohio is a particularly challenging state for Romney, whose personal approval ratings sunk over the course of the summer as the Obama campaign and supportive super PACs pummeled Romney over his private sector career, accusing him of having pioneered the practice of outsourcing during his time at Bain Capital.
Ohio’s status as a presidential kingmaker is well-established, too: no Republican has won the White House in recent history without the state in their column. Moreover, Obama would only need to win an additional 15 electoral votes from all of the remaining battleground states if he were to win Ohio, complicating Romney’s path to victory.
“Ohio is in play; it’s an important battleground state,” Romney senior adviser Eric Fehrnstrom said this afternoon on MSNBC. “We feel that we have an enthusiasm edge working in our favor.”
To that end, another poll released Tuesday by CNN/ORC showed Obama ahead of Romney among Ohio's likely voters. The president would beat his Republican foe, 51 to 47 percent, if the election were held today.
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New poll out of CNN - President Obama up by 4 in Ohio. 51%
Other polls showed over the weekend a huge jump in favorables for him as well.
People don't like Romney. Period. Romney did nothing while the president worked 24/7 for us. He deserves another term. Romney deserves nothing and I hope that's what he gets.
Nothing. Not even respect. Not after what his son said today.
What is it with Republicans and their complete lack of class or respect? Particularly from a GD son.
So Pat - upon learning of Amb. Steven's murder, O promptly left for Vegas.
Even got in a trip to the Hoover Damn.
And yet our people have not yet been to Benghazi. But CNN has.
Yep, 24/7. For sure.
You mean the guy in the Oval office that doesn't attend any intel briefings, plays golf every weekend, and goes on vacation once a month? That guy. Milli Vanilli is done, the Candy Man can't make anymore promises he can't keep.
Suddenly the skewed polls of last week become "gospel" this week...
Too effin funny for words!
PS: I distinctly remember reminding President Obama supporters to not become complacent, sad the same can't be said for the RWNJ's...
Underestimate the President at your own peril...
Hey Pat, don't speak for me. Your boy Barry is definitely no poster boy and a beacon of morality. As far as respect? Maybe you need to get some.
Wait - golf and pimping folks for money is not working 24/7?
The 100 rounds of golf, while GDP continues to hit the skids, was not all done for the people?
Holy hell, somebody tell Pat.
And Chuck Todd. But whatever you do, do not tell Matthews. Don't take my fun away.
JFK, what is it with Republicans and their constant lying?
I guess republicans are under the impression that women like bullies. We don't. And President Obama is no bully. He's actually quite respectful. No one in the GOP is. NO ONE.
btw, great crowd in Ohio to see their president.
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/10/09/heads-up-president-obama-at-ohio-state-university/
Oh Feisty old gal, they could only go Dem plus 9, and plus 20 for so long.
You do get that Gallup just switched to likely voters.
Of course you did.
Hey, ya think we'll get some rep +5 polls? :)
LD, I have zero intention of speaking for you.
Well, Spanky,I tried to respond to you- but the FR gremlins put my post way down the bottom.
Now Hear this! Now Hear this!
This Topic about the Romney/Obama debate is now a Major News Story on all the News Outlets, Political Blogs, and Social Media.
It's under the heading: "The Apple does Not Fall Far from the Tree".
Remember how during the debate, MITT ROMNEY bragged that he could always tell when his Five (5) Mormon sons were LYING.
Well where did his Five sons learn to LIE so well to their Father, MITT ROMNEY"
The answer is seems is:
They had a "GOOD TEACHER", their own Father MITT ROMNEY.
Like Father like Son.
You be the Judge!
MITT ROMNEY, Psychopathological LIAR, Admitted TAX-CHEAT, and probable FELON, who only AVOIDED those FELONY CHARGES by cowardly "RETIRING RETROACTIVELY" from BAIN CAPITAL?
or BARACK OBAMA, the GOOD, the KIND, the MERCIFUL?
It's Not even a Contest.
Barack Obama in 2012.
Yeah!
So Pat - how about you define '24/7.'
It does not appear to mean what you think it means.
Pat?
I hear you No JO - it's that math thing.
It's very simple. Just like we were told long ago, President obama cannot defend his record. That's what happened in last week's debate and that should be what happens the rest of the way. Expect the Obama camp to do wahtever they can to distract from their failed policies and expect Romney/Ryan to keep putting those failed policies in front of the people. The left is on very shaky ground right now and it showed on Obama's face in that last debate.
OH PAT, you must have went to the MSNBC school for journalism..yes the poll is barley 4 point lead in Ohio but its not up its down by almost 6 points since the debate..
oh yea that thrill you feel up your leg is the dog pissing on it !!!!! and Obama is the biggest bully and a liar and will be exposed for it till Nov. 6th and then he can roll up the purple shag carpet and velvet paintings and go back to Chicago..
one word: Leadership.
Obama is more qualified for Jersey Shore then presidentin'.
Unintended consequences my libby friends.
You refer to the President of the United States as boy?
You're cleaners called, your sheets are ready!
Pat - great shots of the crowd in Ohio and unbelievable shots of the one in VA for Michelle Obama.
Can't wait until this is all over and President Obama is beginning his 2nd term.
mike - why doesn't it surprise me that you think purple carpeting and velvet paintings are decor!
Obama/Biden 2012
All Hail Obama!
Ruler, Master, and Overlord of all you evil Republicans, and you crazy-wacko Teabaggers.
Thank-God Obama will be our President for the Next Four (yes! 4) very Long years.
Listen, I'm a Republican, and I'm begging every Man, Women, and child to Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012.
Remember Mitt Romney is only the "Public Face" for Dick cheney and Karl Rove who are actively financing Mitt Romney with their hideous and horrific PAC rich, white-man 1% percenter campaign funds.
Plus Rush Limbaugh is the "real-face" of the Republican Party.
Do yo really want to go back to the "Bush Regime"?
Well do you?
Let's finally send Mitt Romney and his Republican Masters
"Back to the Political Dung Heap of History", where they all belong to begin with.
It will be Fun!
From what I've heard over the last few weeks the Romney camp has taken away some of the power of his handlers. They appear to have determined that those directing him weren't doing a good job. I agree, they didn't help him for a while and letting Mit and family control his image and message appears to have aided his campaign. Can't be doing a bad job when the New Yorker puts an illustration of Romney debating with a chair on their cover.
As to the polls- Haven't you all realized that polls are just numbers and that numbers can be intepreted any which way you want them to be? 6 out of 10 people like chocolate ice cream can be "60% prefer chocolate" or "chocolate has a 40% disapproval rating". Then you can ask people whom don't eat ice cream, people that are lactose intollerant, people that come from vanilla producing areas, people that work in dairy states, etc. all of whom would give you different versions of an answer. The reality- Polls don't matter, they are just used to lobby that your guy is better and to keep the others from going to the polls. BFD.
Can't wait for the VP debate- I'm guessing it's going to be fun!
One thing that is changing the polls is that the pollsters have finally started to change their polling mix based on likely voters, not based on the '08 turnout. Many polls were basing the mix of Republicans, Democrats, and Independents that they were polling based on the '08 voter turnout. Many are now recognizing that the huge Democratic turnout in '08 is not going to be repeated and are now using a mix based on more historical turnout numbers as well as surveys of likely voters. This has removed the Democratic skew that existed in many of the polls up until now. The pollsters have realized that the Democratic fervor that carried Obama in the last election is not there this time. They are also recognizing that the poor economic performance that has hit the younger generation particularly hard has decreased the amount of youth vote that Obama can expect this time. Those 18-25 year olds that came out for Obama in droves in '08 have become jaded and disillusioned with Obama and while they may not vote for Romney, they are not voting for Obama either. Many have become so disillusioned that they are not likely to bother voting at all. The winner of this election will be determined as much by voter turnout as anything else.
Obama is half white you bigot. Your ace up the sleeve Race card is overplayed cheat.
im not surprised there a lot of you that want to make him King. AVE OBAMA. how sick and pathetic.
A Democrat spy? If your repub, im a strong and loyal dem. The only poll that counts is the one in Nov and we both know whos going to win.. Obama doesnt have any standing and too much has happened on his watch.. Get those tissues out libs, because you will be needing them shortly..
Keep beggin'!
Let's all look at the debate of Willard debating Willard. That man lies so much, it's hard to imagine anyone voting for him and dismissing all of his repeated lies on every position. It sure bothers me and millions others, that this man a talking lying buffoon, is fooling so many.
Is it something I said?
Really, I was once a proud Republican.
but I WOKE-UP and saw the "Darken Hearts" of my fellow Republicans, not to mention those crazy-wacko Teabaggers.
I don't want a Mitt "RobMe", a LIAR, CHEATER, and THIEF, in the WHITE HOUSE.
Hello? A Vote for MITT ROMNEY is a Vote for DICK CHENEY, KARL ROVE, RUSH LIMBAUGH, ANN COULTER, GEORGE BUSH, etc. etc. Ad-nauseum.
Did I mention the "little-turd" KARL ROVE? he and the evil and hideousand horrif DICK (Darth Vader) CHENEY are ACTIVELY running the ROMNEY/RYAN campaign thru their dirty rich white-man PAC funds.
Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012.
You'll be Glad you did.
GOOD ONE!
Give it up RFO. After voting for Obama and then speaking up about his policies I disagreed with, I was suddenly labeled a racist by the Beverly's in Chicago and the Feisty's of your beloved newfound party. You certainly won't get away from the bigots by switching to that crowd.
Thank you for the JOBS OBAMA!!!!
Stay the course or crash and burn with Romney
OBAMA 2012
ROMNEY 1040
That Romney is a very smart man. no wonder he won the debate hands down.
Pat, the other poll shows Romney up by 1. CNN did not post the Mixes of party, race, education, and sex.
ARG, the other poll did. ARG oversampled the 2008 levels by 3 points to Democrats and 2 points to Republicans. Trouble is, that our mix is between 2008 & 2004 and that means the out sampling on Democrats may be 5 - 7 points and republicans under sampled by up to 3 or 4.
My guess is that Romney is actually up by 2 or 3 points in Ohio, especially since 2 weeks ago Both The Romney and Obama camps had Obama up by 4.
sirie - I'd hardly saying lying to win is winning hands down. His 27 lies in 38 minutes must be some kind of record. ; I don't think he'll get off as easily next debate!
Obama/Biden 2012
The race to November just got interesting.
I guess when you finally decide that you DO like government mandated health care, government regulation of Wall Street, and not cutting taxes on the wealthy, then you too can be the Republican nominee,
but only if you lie about what you really are planning to do for 5 years.
Say, which one of Willard's "home states" is he leading in..?
Feisty - the only HOME state Willard will win is Utah - that's pretty much a given. Mass can't stand him and PA - not a chance!
Obama/Biden 2012
I VOTED to re-elect President Obama TODAY
because:
I'm younger than 55 and do not want to see Medicare privatized about the time I'm developing Alzheimer's.
I still remember the Bush administration and I do not want to go back to fights over privatizing Social Security, the Axis of Evil demagoguery used to make war over oil, the government repression of scientific data on global warming, and the anti-financial regulation attitude that lead to the economic collapse of 2008.
Plus, I've quite gotten used to having a positive and inspring President and First Family in the White House.
My God, Amy, how's the weather in your little world today? All sunshine and lollipops?
How hot were the coals Amy?
My guess Amy is you have also gotten used to the "free stuff". LOL !
This article is simply too funny .... Romney "wiped the floor" with Obama, Romney now leads in the polls ......... and this article is taking the position that ALL the pressure is on Romney !
So much for NBC "journalism" ... alongside the pro-Obama advertisements ! LOL !!
You know what's so ironic about this campaign?
Mitt Romney has been given the go ahead by the teapartiers to pretend he's more liberal. That's right. You want to know why?
Because most people in this country believe in more liberal policies that benefit we the people. But the teapartiers aren't worried. If Romney wins, they know he'll be at their mercy.
So funny. The teapartiers, the ones with all those racist signs a few years ago, are the ones Romney is beholden to should he win. The same people Romney realized he couldn't win the presidency with just their support.
And that's because most of us aren't teapartiers. So he has to pretend now that they don't exist. When in fact they will run his Administration.
The teapartiers, doing the dirty work for the Koch Brothers - willingly.
President Obama, bad debate.
But a wonderful president who has worked very very hard on our behalf.
So Amy says she performs her duty as citizen of this country and that causes 3 of chauvinists to attack her?
Really?
What cowards.
mike,ceasar and jim
Your attitude is why President Obama is ahead with women by double digits. Republican men are jerks. Bombastic, belligerent, and stupid - just like your candidate.
Washington, Oct. 9 (ANI): An investigation into Republican Mitt Romney's Bain Capital tobacco work has found that the consulting firm helped Philip Morris, which is America's leading cigarette manufacturer, increase its revenues in the U.S., and aided two other tobacco titans as they vied to move forcefully into the Russian market.
As the Soviet Union splintered in the early 1990s, Romney saw Russia as a lucrative market for cigarettes and tobacco, and was excited about the market, the investigation by the Huffington Post found.
Romney sent consultants to Russia, which was on the brink of collapse, to explore the market and determine what Russian smokers wanted out of a cigarette.
Bain was in the middle of all of this, putting to work the same skills it had sharpened in the U.S., using taxpayer money to help it gain footholds in Russia. In March 1993, the American Government gave Bain and Co. a $3.9 million contract to advise Boris Yeltsin's, Russian politician and the first President of the Russian Federation, administration on the privatization of the Russian economy, according to records detailing the arrangement.
Under pressure at home for marketing an addictive and deadly product, domestic sales were shrinking. It was a dilemma Bain and Romney knew well, having worked extensively on behalf of Philip Morris in the U.S. beginning in 1990.
The documents show Bain's enthusiasm to help its client enter the Russian tobacco market, despite obvious and well-documented health hazards associated with smoking.
http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/10/09/319-Romney-s-Bain-Capital-made-millions-from-tobacco-business-in-Russia-in-90s.html
_________________________
So there you have it.
Repeal healthcare.
But buy cigarettes.
It's all about the money.
You beat me to it NDD!
You're far too kind... PIGS is what comes to mind!
Not this woman, I prefer to hand them their shriveled balls in a nicely wrapped package!
Amy, that's wonderful that you voted! Good for you!!!
As far as Republican men, I had read somewhere this morning that Scarborough said women "like" men who are bullies?
Did he say that?
Women in the democratic party are fortunate. We have so so many millions of men supporting us. They're always standing up for our rights.
They're awesome.
The polls at the end of today, Tuesday - Mitt equal with the President in the women support. Real Clear Politics for the first time has Romney ahead of the President.
Still early, and there will be more changes. Regardless, this will be close.
Do any of you think the silly inbred comments on this site have any input into the decisions of the general public in their voting? No.
I look forward to NBC taking down the comment process following this election.
Sen. Chuck Schumer told the democrats to abandon the Simpson-Bowles Tax model. I sure hope that the President doesn't support abandoning his own debt commission.
Occam's Razor - "inbred comments?" perhaps in your world. Mitt is not even close to equal with the President among women. Obama still leads handsomely.
I'm guessing you're from Texas? The "inbred" comment gives you away!
Feisty - no, just dump them in the garbage disposal. Those guys wouldn't know what to do with them anyway!
Obama/Biden 2012
new poll shows Romney tied with Obama among women voters likely to vote...
Amy B. Portland, ME
No amy, youre partisan take on politics is what makes me mock you. You said you would walk over hot coals for him (he's not your husband), how handsome he looks, etc. You are voting like a typical shallow liberal. 'Blank you America, I love Obama, he's so handsome'. Amy it wouldnt matter who the GOP canidate was, you are the beligerent one that wouldnt listen. Instead too busy having a schoolyard crush.
Romney's camp called "LIES" New-found Strength, this is sad !!!!!!!!!!!
FR:The task now for Romney now involves sustaining the uptick in momentum he’s apparently received as a result of last week’s debate. Even if the bump for Romney is a temporary sugar high, the GOP hopeful now has his chance to convert this surge in energy into sustained momentum.
Romney Proudly Explains How He's Turned Campaign Around
'I'm Lying More,' He Says
http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-proudly-explains-how-hes-turned-campaign-ar,29845/
In all seriousness, what troubles me is voter suppression; especially in Ohio.
Jesse Jackson Rails Against Voter Suppression in Cincinnati
Appears on same day Husted petitions Supreme Court to strike down in-person voting
http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-4038-jesse_jackson_rails_against_voter_suppression_in_cincinnati.html
Be very careful right wingers what you say about the "country preacher" Rev Jessie Jackson. He risked his life by marching with Dr. King so African Americans could acquire the right to vote. This time it's different. It's not just Black people the GOP/Tea Party is trying to suppress. Wake up do you people want to live in a country that gives you not even the fundamental right to vote?
The worst is what happens happens when people in a country don't vote. The government becomes horrible, the government makes bad decisions, plutocrats control the economy, thereby making life miserable for citizens.
As Rachel Maddow says you have the right to be silent; but don't let them buy your vote. (paraphasing) That is just the Kochs, Adelsons, ALEC, Big oil, the heatlthcare industry are doing; and Romney is their poster boy.
Every right winger on this blog seems to forget our President reminds us constantly as he works tirelessly to run this country and campaign. We cannot take anything for granted. He knows this race is going to be close. We must support him because the GOP/T- Party is using class warfare and dirty tricks. Vote straight democratic.
Remember, together we stand; divided we fall.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
romney-hood's post-debate "bounce" won't last. It never does with him.
He'll say or do something stupid, revealing or contrary that will just remind everyone why he's trailed Pres Obama since last November!
See chart - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
QUIET you incontemptible Harpies, you things hide behind faux racism and faux mysogyne. I never said anything sexist or racist and you pea brains attempt to spin it. Fortunately most people can read and comprehend so i guess your out of luck Feisty and NDD.
Just a week ago the right was saying that polls don't matter and that they were oversampling Democrats. The polling methods have not changed, no reason to do so, and the sampling is still the same, no reason to change, now the righties are spouting how great the polls are because they are either tied or that their guy is up by a point or two. Right wingers thy name is HYPOCRISY.
except no one forces you to buy cigarettes.
CNN? Hilarious.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll
Let's not discount this model either. It has correctly predicted the winner since 1980.
http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says
Don't overlook the latest Pew poll. This one has really got the loons of the left...well....loonier
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/08/pew-poll-romney-takes-four-point-lead-among-likely-voters/
Look Pat, that last one is from one of your favorite sources.
More reasons to fire Obama......
jobkiller
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-darden-part-time-workers-20121007,0,1505128.story
has more sympathy for a slut than our best and bravest
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Father-of-fallen-Marine-upset-by-president-s-letter/-/1735978/16904582/-/q7u9agz/-/index.html
disdain for the American people
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/no-white-house-press-briefing-last-15-days_654039.html
Insane
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/10/09/big-bird-wants-out-of-campaign-ad/
as are his army of goons
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/9/romney-signs-defaced-excrement-virginia/
Ceasar
Your response is typical of Republican men -
You don't try to convince women to vote for Romney by stating anything positive about him. All you do is attack President Obama, and me for supporting him.
President Obama stands up for women like me, and I will stand up for him.
am from Africa and i always thought Americans to be the smartest people on the planet!! but looking at some of the comments here am amazed with the extent pure ignorance among Americans!! how can you defend someone who flip flops like Romney?!!! get over you party lines and realize that the future of your nation is at stake, a vote for Romney and kiss goodbye your status as the world superpower, America is in decline and Bush and his republican friends started the decline, once Romney is in office then America is done, other nationals can see that except for the dumb Americans!! Obama is the worst president ever??!!! worse than Bush?? for really?? your the dumbest people on this planet if your think thank, two wars are getting to a close, other peoples are beginning to respect Americans again( not bullies anymore) put Romney in office and its gone, goodluck America this election is important than most of you realise
If Romney doesn't win Ohio, he'll have to carry 6 of 7 remaining swing states, none of which McCain won in 2008. A tall order indeed. So jump up and down all you want baggers, the electoral votes will spoil your party.
kamongo?
LOL.
Obama's a thug from Chicago.Chicago's kinda like Mogadishu, except the murder rate is higher.
Save your uninformed scolding for the left.
Thats it Amy. He's given you so many more 'rights' that you didnt have before. Like voting huh? equal work for equal pay? The right to own land? Tell me what did he stand up for that you dont already have? no just divert to some nonsensical, woman hatin republican rant like your harpy sisters. whatever you have avert from the realities Amy. Enjoy those hot coals.
nothing i say will change your closed thinking anyways. You ever think of joining the cult over at Spahn Ranch. What a thrall
How would you know having not left your farm for a couple of decades? Chicago is one hell of a town if you know how to live life. Ask anyone who lives there. But I get that being afraid of anyone who doesn't talk, look or think like you has diminished your thought process.
You can stick a fork in Obama! Gallup, Rasmussen and Pew all confirm Obama is DONE!
No American who loves this country should ever consider voting for a man who steadfastly refuses to place his hand over his heart during the playing of America's National Anthem!!! Any man who views this country with such disdain is NOTqualified to serve in the hallowed role of President!!!
The more myopic minded single issue constituency's that blindly support Obama without carefully examining his background and true agenda are in fact FOOLS OF THE GREATEST MAGNITUDE!
Romney/Ryan 2012
Tony
My bad....here I was thinking Chicago has an issue with crime. A problem so bad, in fact, that the ballerina mayor actually welcomed the help of a racist organizatioin led by an America-hating racist anti-semite to patrol the streets.
That must've been my community.
nothing like living in a warzone to live life. sure, high crime rate is just the High Life eh Tony? pack your teflon
So amusing: CA a classic misogynist can't spell the word.
But, he is a legend in his own mind. The rest of the world laughs at him.
Including me.
JFK said, "Ask not whatyour country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country" VS
OBAMA who said, "Ask not what you can do for your country – ask what your country can do for you"
The contrast clear, in fact, it is BLACK and WHITE!
If JFK could see what Obama has done to the Democratic party and how he is bankrupting our country, he would roll over in his grave!
shhh, you're being insignificant again and the best you can do is worry about a misspelling. You know the old Saying NDD? better be thought of a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Lets just say NDD, you opened your mouth.
Where is the plan? We still don't have any specifics!
Romney's 20% tax reduction represents a $4.8T reduction in tax revenue. BUT he claims no increase in the debt! How? He still hasn't explained that! Obama is right.... the math doesn't add up!
...and yet, I still laugh...along with the rest of the world....
Integrity...one man in this race has it! OBAMA
Dishonesty...defines one man in this race! ROMNEY
My fellow Republicans, you're being lied to by your choice for President, Mitt Romney and you know it. You've been fed a bunch of crap for so long, that you now think it's the truth.
We're a month away from election day. Lower income and middle income Republicans have a serious decision to make...Elect Romney and watch your taxes go up so the the upper income taxes can go down, or you can elect Obama and allow him to continue our path toward recovery.
Look at the facts. I implore you...please just look at the facts. Republican policy under President Bush harmed economy, and jeopardized your livelihood. Now you will elect another Republican who will usher in more of the same. Why?
Say what you want about Obama, I trust him. Romney - I don't trust.
Look at all the Faux News folks on here tonight, woo hoo...distilleries down again? Keep coming back folks, keep boosting NBCs numbers...cause Obama doesn't need any help....Romney will lose...be darned if I'm goin to the planet Kolob, packing my magic underwear....figuring out which wife is gonna accompany me!
NEXT ELECTION DETERMINED BY CANDIDATE FOLKS DON’T WANT
Written by Glenn Honeycutt, Huntsville, OHIO
I continue to be amazed by those mesmerized with the shallowness of Barack Obama. To suggest he is the answer to solve our woes on economic and foreign policy, energy practices, our public education system and an out-of-control national debt, based on his dismal performance, is mind-boggling. His divisiveness has pitted Americans against one another. He has time for Dave Letterman, but can’t find time to meet with the prime minister of Israel, who fears he is facing Armageddon. His negligence and ignorance could potentially light the powder keg causing the Middle East to explode. It took a week of denial (while campaigning in Vegas) to get a quasi response to the terrorist assault on our foreign embassy, that killed four Americans. He is no more presidential than a three dollar bill, as evidenced by his leak of classified intelligence (Bin Laden) for political gain. I’m sick of the whining and excuses about what he inherited. It’s time to stop the charades and Land of Oz rhetoric. Look at what he’ll inherit if reelected. Can you imagine the whining we’ll hear? He’s incompetent for goodness sake. We need more from our president than cheesy smiles, mediocre golf performances and bricks launched toward the rim.
It appears the only way those on the left can promote Obama is to attack and denigrate his opponents. This has been the mode of operation by liberals/progressives/socialists/Marxists for years. It’s a Saul Alinsky strategy from his book Rules for Radicals, (1971) internalized and practiced by Obama. Smear tactics are a major part of their mission statement. They certainly can’t boast about Obama’s accomplishments, because he has very few. He is not only “Sleepless in Seattle” (Washington), but “Clueless in DC” (Washington). Most loyal Democrats don’t realize their party has been shanghaied by a group promoting top-to-bottom, radical change. They are good hearted people who want the best for their country, have confused arrogance with likeability and, don’t realize they’ve been bamboozled.
The hidden agenda (it is becoming clear) includes spreading the wealth (redistribution), bigger government, promoting secularism (attacking Christianity, an Alinsky principle) and reducing U.S. world power and influence, making us comparable to third world countries. These ingrates want to diminish accomplishments and lower our world status (confirmed in the Movie: 2016). The oil discovery in the Midwest suggests we have more oil reserves than the entire Middle east. Thousands of jobs could be created and our dependency on foreign oil would evaporate. Yet Obama loans billions to foreign countries to drill offshore, places restrictions on our own oil companies and permits gas prices to double, causing further depression on our economy. Where does such a witless mindset come from? Should the U.S. become a Marxist state (beyond what Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt initiated) or China eventually gains complete control of our economy, guess what natural resource will be confiscated first?
The naysayers in denial have a closed mind, don’t understand what makes our country great and will wake up one day to ask, “What happened? Did something happen?” The progressive movement began years ago. They are now very well organized and have infiltrated a large percentage of the lame street news media, education (especially colleges — most professors are liberals), health care, energy and have manipulated the general public into putting a George Soros puppet in the White House.
If you want to understand a man’s ideology and what he stands for, all you have to do is look at role models during his youth and the people he surrounds himself with today. “Birds of a feather do flock together.” When you hang out with communists, Marxists, terrorists, socialists and secularists, then sprinkle in the Chicago mentality, guess what you get? I understand those in denial could never acknowledge this or even admit the risk involved with hanging out next to a hornet’s nest. Sooner or later the folks get stung. To make an error in judgment is understandable. To make the same mistake a second time reinforces what progressives have said about U.S. citizens for years. “The American people are dumb!” Unenlightened adults would deserve the consequences, our children don’t.
Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney has his flaws and is by no means a perfect option. But when you look at the alternative and decide on the best person to address our sad state of affairs, the choice is clear. It’s not possible to lead from behind or alter ideals ingrained in a person since childhood. The paramount question “Would you buy a used car from Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, Eric Holder or Barack Obama?” I hope not. It takes more than two hands to count Obama’s broken promises, including C-span postings and that of being transparent. His hundreds of executive orders circumventing Congress are shady at best. He promised if he couldn’t turn the economy around in three years, he didn’t deserve a second term. Oops?! Forgot, another lie! We’ve been fed a steady diet of lies and deception and many have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker. It’s time to spit it out and “just let him go,” as suggested by Clint Eastwood’s classical presentation. Did you notice the typical liberal/progressive reaction and strategy of bashing Eastwood? It proves the point made above. It rolled off him like water on a duck.
Water on a duck brings to mind another point. I have suggested to friends if the choice for president came down to Obama or Mickey Mouse, I’d have to vote for Mickey. Then I realized during the last election that Acorn, the group Obama served as a community organizer (the only job on his resume), registered Mickey to vote (in Chicago), along with several dead people. So, I’ve adjusted the option. The choice is no longer Mickey but Donald Duck. Once again, the choice is clear. When Donald was asked by the lame street news media (in the tank for Obama) about his platform and what he thought of his opposition, he indicated he would keep American heads above water. As far as his opposition is concerned he simply replied with several ... “quack, quack, quacks.” Further, to counter the cry of “racist,” a typical Alinsky/Obama/Jackson/Sharpton/Progressive strategy to discredit those in disagreement, he would vote for Allen West, a black Florida congressman for president, in a heartbeat.
For those having difficulty grasping this piece of satire mocking the travesty of the past three and a half years, let me suggest the election will come down to the person the folks don’t want. If those on the receiving end of entitlements and government handouts think more (selfishly) about free stuff they’ll get, rather than the country’s welfare, we will all be in deep doo-doo. Those who can’t do the math and have their heads buried where the sun doesn’t shine will bring about financial ruin and our own Armageddon. If I’ve offended anyone with my candid and straightforward remarks, that’s too bad. Too many folks have been hoodwinked by the current White House narcissist, concerned more about reelection and world favorability than the future of our great country. He has made clear his priorities through apologies. His ideology goes against the wind, the grain and the American people. If you look up, that’s the bottom of the bus zipping by over your head, filled with an empty load of promises, hope and change. For those moved to rebuff the irony of this parody with the typical liberal/leftist reaction, I quote the words of our beloved 40th President, Ronald Reagan, “There you go again.”
Glenn Honeycutt
Huntsville, OHIO
You know, if Romney is elected, I will give him 3 and 1/2 years to fix everything and hold all the local, state and U.S. republicans accountable. To start, there will should be zero unemployment, $1.50/gallon gas, no illegal aliens sneaking into this country, zero inflation, no wars, and all the countries of the world will like the USA.
rapos001,
Wait, don't we have all of that now? Didn't Candidate Obama promise all of that and then some when he was running?? (i.e. the planet would be healed and the oceans would cease to rise...). Oh, my bad. He didn't keep ANY of his campaign promises... Why is it that you guys are so determined that he has a second term to NOT keep ANY of his promises again???
Yet another Biased article from Comcast-NBC.
Oh Pat, there are Republican't plumbers going around to ALL the forums like Newsvine, Yahoo etc. They have prepared scripts and talking points. Oh I like how the "Use large Font" is showing up on Yahoo Newsvine and other forums.
Its hard to believe that the Sheep are so dumb as to believe Corporate Raider the Liar Willard "Tax Cheat" Romney is their savior. But in 2 years when things go from bad to worse under Corporate Raider Romney, when they have to take in Grandma because the Monster Paul "I hate Grandma" Ryan has ended Social Security, Disability, Medicare and medicaid (He is lying when he says those over 55 are exempt, Ryan is telling a bold faced lie when he says this) When they have to step over the Elderly and disabled living in the streets for the same reason, I just wonder, will they still worship their Savior Corporate Raider Liar Willard "Tax Cheat, I love Tax Havens" Romney?
And thats my opinion.
NBC saying that Romney is ahead? Things must be really worse than imagined.
Magnum,
Seriously?? Is that the best you can do?? Romney is a liar and tax cheat and Ryan hates grandma?? I don't suppose you want to come forward with any evidence of any of that. Just because you do not agree with the policies they are proposing, or believe that they would have the results they say that they will, that does not mean that they are "lying."
If you want to see a good example of lying, take a look at the Obama administration's response/cover up of the events associated with the assassination of Ambassador Stevens in Libya. I know you are probably preoccupied with saving Big Bird now, as is the president, but the situation in Libya is a big deal.
Obama doesn't want to throw Grandmothers out into the Street. Both Corporate Raider Liar Romney and Monster Paul "I hate Grandma" Ryan have said they WILL.
Next
And thats my opinion
and polls show obozo up by 40 among minority and uneducated women voters unlikely to vote or get off public assistance.
Alright Pat - way to cite one poll.
"People don't like Romney"
Nobody Pat? Is that why the RCP average has Mitt in the lead?
Is it you can't think this stuff through, or is it the math thing-y Pat?
Liberals often have trouble with math. It is because they are taught along the lines of this:
I have $3 trillion. I want to spend $6 trillion. I guess I will only spend $4.5 trillion. There!! I just saved $1.5 trillion! Aren't I great?!?
Thank you for the JOBS OBAMA!!!!
Stay the course or crash and burn with Romney
OBAMA 2012
ROMNEY 1040
you mean the part time mcdonalds jobs?
@dal: Is that a win for the left ?
hey sirie. its funny unemployment fell yet the amount of jobs added isnt the amount needed to sustain incoming workers, to keep up with demand. its not really funny, it smells fishy really
jimmy in philly - Ah ha! I see how the little righties do math. So the 70 million debate viewers were Romneys? Interesting since I believe both Romney and Obama were there. And, yes, I know the President didn't do well. He told the truth and failed to call Romney the liar he was. And, Romney lied, lied, lied. But the viewers were there for both.
And the increaes in debt - not even close. You've failed to account for the two wars Bush didn't bother to put on the books that our President did.
Obama/Biden 2012
Pat, which news are you watching. All polls have Mitt ahead except for CNN who doesn't want him ahead.
jimmy - your ignorance is showing. Since I'm a woman I couldn't be your "bro" and wouldn't want to be if I was a man. Mitt will be shown to be the clown he is before this is over!
Obama/Biden 2012
If Romney gets elected all our jobs will go overseas, R & R For China !!!
Jimmy what Seeking meant to say is Hey if you were a lib you get the power of clairvoyance. Yeah Seeking because your moniker is revealing of your gender. Here's a hint, look up ignorance. I'm pretty sure the definition will fit your thinking properly
Spanky-
Alright Pat - way to cite one poll.
"People don't like Romney"
Nobody Pat? Is that why the RCP average has Mitt in the lead?
Spanky- Romney trails our President in favorability not likely voters
Obama & Romney: Favorable/Unfavorable
Obama: Favorable/Unfavorable
PollDateSampleFavorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average
9/25 - 10/7
--
51.6
46.4
+5.2
ABC News/Wash Post
10/4 - 10/7
845 RV
55
44
+11
Pew Research
10/4 - 10/7
1201 RV
49
48
+1
Politico/GWU/Battleground
10/1 - 10/4
1000 LV
52
45
+7
CNN/Opinion Research
9/28 - 9/30
783 LV
52
48
+4
Quinnipiac
9/25 - 9/30
1912 LV
50
47
+
Romney: Favorable/Unfavorable
PollDateSampleFavorable Unfavorable Spread
RCP Average
9/25 - 10/7
--
47.6
48.4
-0.8
ABC News/Wash Post
10/4 - 10/7
845 RV
47
51
-4
Pew Research
10/4 - 10/7
1201 RV
50
46
+4
Politico/GWU/Battleground
10/1 - 10/4
1000 LV
47
47
Tie
CNN/Opinion Research
9/28 - 9/30
783 LV
49
50
-1
Quinnipiac
9/25 - 9/30
1912 LV
45
48
-3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_romney_favorable_unfavorable.html
Might I also add, some people really weren't paying attention and didn't know much about MYTH. I prognosticate the more he and Lying Ryan open theieer mouths the more likely voters will turn against the greedy, amoral, god mongering, women abusive GOP/T-Party
In less than a month the left is going to find out just how much real Americans like Romney. I'm guessing 55% or more of the popular vote. 300 or so of the electoral.
Obama has really been stinking it up these last four years. Those well intentioned folks who gave him the benefit of the doubt in 2008 will hate not voting for him 2012, but they won't. They will vote Romney or stay home. Gary and Rosanne may pick up a few extra at Barack's expense.
Where is the plan? We still don't have any specifics!
Romney's 20% tax reduction represents a $4.8T reduction in tax revenue. BUT he claims no increase in the debt! How? He still hasn't explained that! Obama is right.... the math doesn't add up!
Hmmm, like this:
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
or this:
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Oct 9, 2012 13473
or this:
Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
Yeppirs! He's really been stinkin' it up compared to that George W. Bush... you know, the last Republican president! You know, the same president that Romney's policies promise to emulate!
This is for all these young adults we care about you trust us Vote For Romney
Romney supporters - BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR IT MIGHT COME TRUE.
You guys always make fun of Obama supporters and say they see him as their saviour or messiah, and yet you are doing the same thing with Romney. You think if he's elected everything will magically change for the better.
You also say "the lefties" can't do math, yet ignore that Romney has yet to lay out a detailed plan of what he wants to do and how he will do it. All we know is that he want's to increase military spending by $2 trillion, mostly on the Navy which means increased operating cost so that $2 trillion is much higher. He want's to cut everyone's taxes by 20% and balance the budget, when asked how he says he's not telling until after the election. Numerous economists have said the numbers don't add up. You're voting for him on blind fate, because as long as it's not Obama in the White house that's all that matters to you.
It's also funny how most of you hated Romney during the primaries.
When you talk about being challenged by math, it seems to me that the right wingers are more challenged by math than any other group. Many of the righty persuasion question unemployment rate numbers. They say, how can that be? How can unemployment rate go down?
Revised numbers for July and August actually lowered the 8.1% unemployment rate to 7.9 or 8%. September jobs report took it to 7.8%.
Many people left the work force in the Summer. Many were retirees that delayed retirement until they could be sure their 401K's were sufficient and stable enough to fund their retirement. Others worked until they could sell their homes in a recovering housing market and relocate to warmer climate area. Florida and Arizona housing markets recovery confirms this.
Our economy is improving despite Republican efforts to stop it by blocking infrastructure investment and jobs bill last year. These economic growth saboteurs should be fired.
There will be another poll after the VP debate and new polls after the next two Presidential debates and all will show fluctuations. I'm still confident that, when the people actually listen to the lies of Romney - changing every day - they'll re-elect President Obama. Anything else would be suicide for the United States!
Obama/Biden 2012
"suicide" now eh Sanity?
Nothing shrill there.
Plus your tone and language hardly smacks of desperation.
Too funny.
Oh, and of course they did hear O at the last debate. Memory hole, right?
LOL...I don't care who you are, thats some funny stuff right there. Obama has no record to run on...the economy is in shambles, we are over 16 Trillion Dollars in debt, Gas prices doubled, everyone on food stamps, health insurance increased by thousands and the middle class is taking home thousands less in income. But you want to vote for this idiot. Go figure...
he has a record, it just sucks. and the Diehards on FR love their profligate. as for Polls, the only one that counts is on Nov 6.
Again Caesar cuts through the crap about the shifting polls...thanks...
SS- Just because the usual 20 extreme Libs keep throwing the same lies over and over, it does not make it TRUE.
I always followed the Rasmussen and Huffinton polls. Too bad you on the left keep listening to NBC and CBS and NYT for all your information. However, please don't go bananas now over the polls its just a measurement of a possibility.
It aint over until is over.
And further more I agree with dangerfield. This race can go either way, however if Ryan wins the debate, the Reps will get even a bigger bump and that could be the end for Obama.
Thank you for the JOBS OBAMA!!!!
Stay the course or crash and burn with Romney
OBAMA 2012
ROMNEY 1040
No Spanky... didn't you pay attention....it was the altitude man.. that's what it was...Al Gore said it plain as day. Yep that was it...altitude! That's why Obama couldn't defend his record at the debate.... it was the altitude!
smitty - no Mitt is NOT viewed as a leader except by the very small minded (clearly that includes you). His "leadership" offended our European allies throughout his entire trip. He cannot hold one position from one day to the next. He is NO leader but he is a liar that intellectually challenged seem to flock to. Go figure!
Obama/Biden 2012
Sanity.....Keep Seeking, you clearly have not found any yet!
JustanotherVeteran - no and I will say that seeking sanity in the GOP apparently is a lost cause because people like you, WCA, smitty prove daily there is absolutely NO SANITY to be found in the Republican party!
Obama/Biden 2012
Give it up Sanity, you are FLOUNDERING as usual ... the Tide has turned !
jim - I never flounder around lowlifes like you - and - the tide will turn back. Wait and see little man!
Obama/Biden 2012
Don't let the 1% buy our Democracy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Romney will Destroy America as a Country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep! Suicide! We already saw what Bush's policies did to this country. Romney promises more of the same! Hell, he's already hired most of Bush's economic team as his advisors... how do you expect anything different?
smitty - 1 Week ago people were saying that WHEN Obama beats Romney in the debate it will be all over for Romney, didn't happen did it? Statistically the incumbent never does well in the first debate.
JFK2112 - Those are some nice talking points, have you researched any of that or are you just repeating what Fox Opinion Channel and Rush Limbaugh tells you as fact(when the reality is that just isn't the facts.
What First Read wont discuss:
The NBC/WSJ polls, and the Wash Post polls, which just a few weeks ago showed absurdly high Obama leads, were worthless crap....
The President can do no wrong crowd vs the President can do no right crowd, are both wrong because they begin with their conclusion.
Remove the two "absolutist" factions and you have a better picture of how normal folks look at the race and the candidates.
One thing that recent polls clearly indicate is that around 10% of the electorate flutter between the two based on who has the loudest bullhorn or who controls the news cycle that day.
Those Gloating over the new SURGE(!) by Governor Romney (Ann Coulter says "It's Over!) were unskewing the unfavorable polls a week ago. Those who were gloating over the President's widening lead in the all important "swing" states just a week ago, are focused on the Governor's (very successful, or so it seems) LIES(!)
So now the same memes and stories that the MSM ran on the "faltering" Romney campaign are recycled for the now "sputtering" Obama campaign.
We are selling newspapers (figuratively) here, so we can look forward to at least a couple of momentum shifts between now and election day. But of course the race will ultimately be "too close to call" and will come down to who wins Ohio and/or Florida.
My opo is it's 2004, Obama is Bush and Romney is Kerry. So far it has gone right on script. President Bush was up by a couple points 8 years ago today.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/election_2012_vs_election_2004_eight_years_ago_today.html
Spanky-
Sucking that one debate dry aren't we? There are two more...;-)
If only....
I just got gas. In '04 I was not paying $5.25. Of course the debt was, what, like a measely $4T, and the deficit was under $400 b?
Good times.
Spanky-
Bringing you pithy non sequiturs since 2010...
Now you're Just another troll under an overcrowded bridge...
http://www.newyorkgasprices.com/
IF only...
Remember a week ago?
imagine a week from now...
Good times indeed...
@Spanky what President controls the price of Gasoline. Earlier this summer a CEO from an Oil company stated that the President has no control over the price of oil because it is an World Commodity. Also the defeicit is what it is bcause of the programs and conflicts under the previous administration were just put on a charge card. Get your facts straight and do your research by the way the size of the federal government has shrunk under the present administration.
Way to go Danger - your first post is all about how silly we all are, one crowd against the other, but then in your very next post you are the one calling names.
Way to tear yourself down. Or is it way to sink to our level?
Oh well, no matter. Didn't look at your link, but Cali and NY are both progressive paradises.
Say, do you all have a bitch cap and trade in place? We do, and it is fantastic. Kinda just like Sec. Chu wants - heading toward Euro gas rices.
We are so lucky.
And again - you totally are not a troll, and also totally don't live under our bridge.
Sure you don't Danger, sure you don't.
Funny DLC - google Obama and gas prices.
Take a look at his campaign commercial standing next to that gas pump.
Guess he was just dead wrong about that too, right?\
Google is a bitch sometimes, huh?
DLC - You're talking to the wall. They also blame the weather; earthquakes; solar eclipses; etc., all on President Obama. Oh and the tides - don't forget the tides - all Obama's fault!
It's a clear indication of how little they know about economics; how the governement works; etc.
Obama/Biden 2012
gas kinda sucks out here right now dangerfield. Gasbuddy.com I remember a week ago, it was high then too. in fact nationally it has doubled since Obama took office and has not come down.
Obama wasn't president when Katrina hit. Member that? Nah we dont blame weather on Obama or solar eclipses, those are natural. Right Al Gore. however we do blame poor GDP, climbing debt, high unemployment and general maliase on Hope and Change himself.
Dear dangerfield, where have you been?
The only important number to watch in any of the polls is where the independent voters break. (Funny- last election, the one before that, the one before that. . .all the media focused on was that number. Too bad they forgot.).
Independents have been breaking for Romney in every poll, from four to twelve points, all cycle.
Now, yesterday, I did the numbers on the Pew poll, (only fair, since I did it the last time). Pew had parity between republicans and democrats, (well, there was a difference, but it was two hundredths of a point, so, for rounding purposes, they were even). Last time, Pew had democrats +9. Kind of a big difference.
One does not need to Weight for partisan differences; one needs to Target for the expected electorate. It gives you a clearer picture.
Nobody in his or her right mind believes that democratic turn out will exceed 2008, which was outside the norm, (democrat +4) for elections. Therefore, to get a clear picture of the trend, identification patterns should be noted- and those patterns show a decline in democratic self identification, while not showing a corresponding increase in republican identification.
There are, therefore, many more self identified independents this cycle. Why, then, would any pollster worth his or her salt not set targets that fit this trend? Why, in fact, we're there so many polls that exceeded 2008 democratic turn out levels?
Well, for one thing, it drives a story. for another, (for the cynical), it boosts donations to one candidate over another.
I had to take three "stat for Econ" courses. Forget politics- as a math nerd, I get offended by bad polling.
Spanky-
That you are a troll is a fact, do you really dispute the fact?
I called a spade a spade, that's not name calling, is it?
reading comprehension is dulled by alcohol apparently... I stand by every word...
you are a troll...have another drink on me...
Nojoe-
The polls were skewed a week ago, isn't is amazing how they have "normalized" in such a short time?
When you can stop calling everyone who disagrees with your worldview desperate and pathetic...let's have a nice conversation...
Spanky is a troll you are a true believer...I prefer true believers
DLC,Then why did Obama blame Bush when gas prices went that high when Bush was President. Was Obama acting stupidly or just lying.
heck im a troll
and likely it will change again before NOV 6.
Problem with Obama camp, is that he has a dismal record and his foreign one is shaping up to be pretty bad too. This Hope and change garbage wasnt more than pretty speeches. Whether you believe Bush was the catalyst or not, nothing has changed. things for the most part have gotten worse and Obama has not been sound with his policies for the betterment of the country. I am willing to give Romney a chance, Obama lost his.
Thank you for the JOBS OBAMA!!!!
Stay the course or crash and burn with Romney
OBAMA 2012
ROMNEY 1040
NoJoe,
The methodology of polls will be argued until election day. I am repeatedly, depressingly, on record as stating that I believe that the trajectory of this election cycle mirrors 2004, with an unpopular incumbent facing a wooden, malaprop prone challenger with a more dynamic VP than the candidate himself.
The challenger won the first debate in 2004 and the media meme was the same then.In fact, the challenger won at least 2 if not all three debates, but still failed to unseat the incumbent.
Governor Romney is as poor a challenger as the President is an incumbent. The polls only prove that the 10% are as volatile as they have been in the past three Presidential cycles.
If you want to hear me say that either man is the best choice we have to captain the ship through these dark waters, you'll be waiting a long time...
SeekingSanity
Hey Seeking, how does it feel to be on the receiving end. I thought it was all Bush fault and the Republicans, please make up your mind, girl.
Seriously now, please don't loose it, It anit over until is over.
then its time for Mutiny as Obama being the captain of the titanic and we're sinking. personally i would love to see a ross perot third party challenger but the establishment has us in 1984.
SS, Of course we blame the tides, the weather and earthquakes on Obama, After all, he said once he becaame President that the planet will heal and the oceans would recede and all.
Then call me Fletcher Christian...
Now you are calling me a "Spade?"
Racist, huh?
It's ok Danger - there is plenty of room under this here bridge for you too.
High and mighty, even keel, above the fray.
You just make me miss Mixed Bag.
Sanity - don't forget O was gonna fix the riding tides or some such crap.
But hey - you are an expert on all things economic. :)
One thing we agree on...
I miss him too...
Did anyone ever hear from Mixed Bag?...
dangerfield
Bye bye Captain Bligh
i use to read you guys all the time and I have wondered the same thing. Perhaps got tired of the sameo sameo.
yeah I notice libbies think its like Oz, they click their heels say it three times and alazam alaboom they're experts.
dangerfield: got any cherries ?
Concerning Mixed; Considering the alternative, I hope you are right.
The only captain worth his salt in the current landscape shills for a mediocre brand of spiced rum...
Do you mean STRAWBERRIES? (that's a different captain)
"It started with the strawberries"...Great flick!
or a Quaker Brand cereal.
did you try contacting him?
nojoe-
That is a relief. Thank you for the update...and agreed.
I hope all is well.
Exactly. Counting chickens is bad. Seems that's what's going on now. I suspect things are going to change toward the end of the week. And once again, debates mean squat. Everyone knows Romney's a liar and also know who he represents. That alone will disallow him the election.
Like this?
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
and this:
DJIA Dec 26, 2008 8515
DJIA Oct 9, 2012 13473
and this part:
Dec 29, 2008 (Bloomberg) U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
Naw, we were sinking under George W. Bush, the last Republican president! Now, we are are actually rising!
Mitt Romney, who promises nothing more than exactly what George W. Bush did, will sink this country once again!
Time to bail! Vote a straight Democratic ticket this Fall!
I have noticed neither side can put this away but they sure talk tough about it. It is the social media. Big hat. No cattle.
If Romney does not win Ohio he can cash in his $100 million IRA and retire to the cayman Islands with the rest of his money.
Can someone explain how you can have $100 millions in IRA? Do you know of anyone else having similar or more amount in IRA?
I thought the limit was about $15,000/year.
Marriott spends so much time admiring the personal wealth of others, he has never been able to comprehend the work required to attain it. I bet he's more focused on how to get one of the free phones Obama is handing out in his attempt to buy votes.
Lanikai - the stupid phone lie - again. The FCC started the program in 1996 with land lines and converted it to cell phones when they become the logical choice. See the FCC decided that everyone needs access to a phone in case of an emergency - nothing to do with Obama.
Now, do you feel as stupid as your post makes you look?
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J. Willard Marriot:
The day you have something sensible or relevant to say, you can go back to high school and collect your diploma.
Don't worry rmehandr,
Corporate Raider Liar Willard "Tax Cheat" Romney has one, even if it might be impossible. If your rich enough you can just about get anything you want, Say, Secret bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, In Andorra and elsewhere, wait, I think Andorra has reformed its banks. Ole Liar Romney better move his off shore accounts out of Andorra fast eh?
This is such a biased article from Comcast-NBC.
And this is all my Opinion only.
Pat doesn't understand the term "margin of error". If she did, she'd understand that CNN, like ARG, shows a tied race in Ohio. Since she gets most of her information from here, the Obama Diary, and Media Matters, she also does not understand the difference between polling targets and weighting. Suffice to say, had I polled the attendees of the Princess' birthday party, we'd all be awash in strawberry ice cream. One hundred percent of the invited guests chose that, as opposed to vanilla or chocolate. The volunteered reason? It's pink.
It's pathetic that there are people who run around citing polls without knowing a blessed thing about them. It's pathetic that there are people who could not do a function if their lives depended on it- heck, most of them don't know what a function is, never mind being able to do the equation.
Know what else is pathetic? Using a puppet in a desperate attempt to revive a slumping campaign. Know what's even more pathetic than that?
Having the puppet reject you
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/sesame-street-requests-obama-ad-come-down-137888.html?hp=l2
And here I thought Big Bird loved everybody.
CNN Ohio
Likely Voters Oct. 5-8, 2012 Obama 51% Romney 47%
The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is +/- 3 percentage points.
So our President is up by 4 points and the margin of error is 3 so that means, according to you, it must be tied.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/10/09/topgenstate4.pdf
Aww, shoot Ron - just a few days ago it was a big O lead.
Just wait until tomorrow.
Another math illiterate weighs in. . .
Dennis, dear, the Margin Of Error is for each candidate. So, you do the addition /subtraction for each.
It's a tie. Good lord- go take a stat course. Then talk about what the polls mean.
Distracting
And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.
Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch with 75% of American voters.
Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social Security to Wall Street.
Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.
Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase —the deficit.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz28q7D7MET
No Joe,
You are correct but the chance of that poll (any professional poll) being that wrong is highly improbable and there is a 90.5% chance that the person in the lead is actually in the lead when the margin of error is 3% and the lead is 4 points.
No Joe: you know that the Big Bird issue would not last more than one week.
However, If anyone doubted where Big Bird really stands, you need to go:
Where there is a sunny day, sweeping the clouds away,
Where everything is is A-OK
There are friendly neighbors there.....
In other words, don't look for Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan to be anywhere near.
Dennis, I suggest you go ask Martha Coakley how her double digit lead over Scott Brown in the UNH poll turned out.
Professional polling indeed.
Shhh....huge scandal brewing about Obama website getting donations from foreign donors...
While First Read claims it is the "first place for news", it is the last place to hear bad news for the Obama campaign...
Really?
...and you have proof, yes?
It certainly is. . .
Newsweek is running the story, which I got from a buddy.
Seems there is a website that redirects to the Obama donation site. Said site is run by a "FOO"- Friend Of Obama- who has a pretty shady past. In any event, this website send out fundraising emails around the globe- asking for donations of $190, below the reporting requirement- despite the fact that soliciting donations from anyone outside this country is ILLEGAL, unless you are armed with proof that the object of the solicitation is, in fact, an American citizen.
Since Slate, Newsweek, Politico, the WSJ, WaPo, and ABC are running with the story, I'm pretty sure it will have legs.
No wonder Bog Bird gave Obama the old heave ho. Can't be associated with that kind of dirty business.
Can't wait to see the foreign Obama campaign contributors. Guaranteed they are freinds to Obama. Question is, are they friends to the USA?
Da Noid - it is Romney who is getting foreign donations. Plus his buddy Grove Norquist funnels money from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel through his channels for Romney.
No foreign donations for Obama - it's just more Romney lies.
The group who is "exposing" foreign money is run by a right wing conservative. There are no facts or proof supporting the claims and no, no other news groups are claiming it is true.
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“Campaigns that aggressively raise money online are soliciting donations from people around the world–whether they intend to or not,” writes GAI president Peter Schweizer and Newsweek reporter Peter J. Boyer in a post on the report at Newsweek/Daily Beast.
The report suggests the Obama campaign is uninhibited in its foreign solicitations, lacks rigorous screening for donors’ citizenship and fails to impose basic e-commerce safeguards, such as requiring donors to provide the Card Verification Value (the security code on the back of a card) to prove a donor is in physical possession of the card.
Simply the latest Fox "news" conspiracy, but good for you for falling for it!
New day. Google it. You will find it everywhere. ABC News, and others.
Think Man! Google it. Had it only been Fox, ok but it is everywhere.
Think! Google it.
I did: Read:
"Fox Hypes Unsubstantiated Claim that Obama May be Receiving Illegal Foreign Donations" Media Matters Oct 8, 2012
Romney got 100 million FROM OIL COMPANIES. Evil son of a bitch
Why I'm SHOCKED...SHOCKED I say!
Won't stop the lipstick wearing pitbulls from chewing that bone to a nub!
Republicans have earned a reputation for running smear, fear and slander campaigns, and Dems have failed to hit back.
Not this time. We aren't going to see our President defeated by those tactics. Biden is going to clean Ryan's clock. We are going to expose his lies for all to see!
Oh, lord, Amy- go back and remember what you said about Romney and Obama debating.
I do not expect Biden to be as poorly prepared as was Obama- he's simply not as arrogant as his boss.
He's still going to come out poorly against Ryan, however well prepared Biden is. Ryan is simply a superior intellect..
Ryan is a superior liar, that is what he is.
I watched the Presidential debate. To me, Obama won, but then, I was listening to the content of the debate. I found the President more convincing on the issues.
I wasn't much impressed by Romney's sputtering, sweating, hysterial style.
I've since learned, the pundits consider aggression a sign of leadership. So be it. The gloves are coming off. Biden will pound that little whimp's face until its hamburger. K?
Well, Amy, I guess you are still in the running for President of Obama's fan club. Since there are very few remaining members, you're probably a shoo-in.
Even Big Bird rebuffed Obama- and that's saying something.
Answer the question No Jo, do you think Romney lied during the debate? I can quote one lie right off the bat during his $90B renewable energy claim that was false. Falsified where the money went, claimed 90B went to clean Wind and solar, FALSE! when his campaign was asked they by three different fact ck sites they referred them to a 14 Jul 2010 report. Which showed only 21B and broke down the rest. All I ask you Repubs on here to do is, stop spinning, stop deflecting and answer the question. DO YOU THINK HALF OF ROMNEYS DEBATE ANSWERS WERE 100% factual? Plain and simple NO...the people who post on here bashing NBC and Obama for one, am in awe they are on a NBC site....two have never seen so much deflecting......guess I will get on here more often then look like a troll. But I have a job, so Imcannot stay on here all night talking falsified smack about our president. Your gonna lose Romney, it's inevitable, and your policies and your fictional faith is one reason I don't want you in our White House!..
Picking romney and ryan to run the country would be like turning jerry sandusky loose on the bozo show with no parents around, the people on the right makes the IQ level fall off into the toilet.
Hawk, Sandusky voted for Obama. He's been a liberal Democrat since his college days. Makes complete sense now, doesn't it?
Lanikai ron- Voting for some one does not give them the right to hunt kids for sex so they can get off, besides that seems to be a catholic thing since young boys look like fresh meat to most catholic clergy men don't you thnk. You need to get off of romneys short hairs.
Lanikai - you have no idea how Sandusky voted and your post is beyond sick. My guess is you relate very well to Sandusky and love all of his actions.
The working people have seen thru Obama ...hes history in November. Romney --Ryan--2012..we need a man in the WH ...not someone who drops their head when spoken to.
joe66- Maybe romneys wife can take off her boxer shorts and give them to her husband that way he can at least feel like a man don't you think? He needs to take the panties off of his head.
Distracting
And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.
Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch with 75% of American voters.
Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social Security to Wall Street.
Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president.
Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase —the deficit.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/?fb_action_ids=10151189044597182&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A430876850304107%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151189044597182%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]#ixzz28q7D7MET
And again, GO back, do it now cause you will forget ....and look at some of the historical debates from Reagan, Bush and Clinton era.....Most of them got shwacked during first debate, guess who wound up as prez Joe? Not the guy who got shwacked
Satire...maybe not as funny as it is laughable.
Isn't it interesting how no jo avoided FR like the plague when her new crush, Mitty was losing and embarrassing himself daily, and she has only come back when she feels she can lecture her better, Pat about polling?
So, about moving those parent and how tied up you are no jo....
Or are you being as honest about that as you are about everything else?
Either way it must bother you. No one noticed you were gone until you told us you were. Unlike Feisty, whose absence was spoken of daily!
NDD,
I noticed old Snookie-Joe wasn't the only one of the swoop & poop crowd who were conspicuously MIA!
There's a reason I refer to them as keyboard cowards... they PROVE IT!
And NewDay - Fiesty left why?
It was voluntary, right?
Yep NewDay - it's all a big conspiracy, unless of course you have the luxury to be here each and every day.
How fortunate you are NewDay.
Daily, Feisty. And somehow, it is supposed to go unnoticed!
Uh, noid? You want to be careful quoting the Onion here.
Most of the regulars on this board think its gospel truth.
Kind of like Obama's books.
Will you look at old Snookie-Joe, poor thing has a set of fangs full of venom she can't help but spit! lol
Personally, I can NOT wait until the President is re-elected and they cart the hateful old hag off to the loony-farm!
Benghazi just isn't going away. The truth about this Administrations failure is coming out little by little. If that weren't bad enough, they lied & covered up the truth. I said it two weeks ago & will say it again. Benghazi will bite Hussein in the ass.
So the Repooplicans believe the polls now that their idiot candidate is ahead in some polls, whereas the polls were wrong and being manipulated by the bad ole Democrats last week when they said Obama was ahead? What a pack of f'in fools!
How old are you? Hopefully not old enough to vote.
2nd that. Give mommy back her computer.
Oh no they claim now that the polls have simply been corrected...which by my deduction if they truly believe that then they don't really believe romney's debate performance was really a turnaround performance like they try and say it is. They claim independents are breaking for them, but I know independents/undecided votes usually wait for ALL the debates to come in before making a final decision so I hope they do get too complacent by believing their own lies.
If Obama's debate performance had any silver lining it is that it forced those who support the president not to take his re-election for granted.
MUST VOTE!
Its really funny listening to the hypocrits bash Obama for his playing golf and the trips that he takes.
The question is are the same nut hypo's going to bash Romney for doing the same thing telling everyone else to shut up because it's their president?
Sounds to me like jealously coming from those who want the life of the politicians but can only complain about it instead.
dwighthuth
Romney doesn't play golf. He said he doesn't like playing with balls like Hussein does. He never had time for golf. He was always working & running Companies.
Nope! Romney does not golf! He will run the country though.
Ranger - He will run the country though. right into the ground!
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Unlike Obama ... who wants to RUN the U.S. over the cliff, the FINANCIAL CLIFF of debt above our heads with continued year after year deficit spending. Obama has had NO BUDGETS, NO PLAN, and NO CLUE ... yes, the Campaigner-in-Chief simply wants the job handed back to him without EARNING IT !!!!
Don't listen to the polls. In 1980 Gallup had Jimmuh Carter beating Ronald Reagan by 4% in Sep 80 and 8% in Oct 80; in 1984 Gallup had Walter Mondale beating Reagan in Oct by 8%. Polls are manipulated and not truthful.
Here's what we need to do:
A. Watch the movie “2016” to see the real obama. Read this about the movie: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/20/impact-of-2016-on-2012-presidential-race-uncertain/.
B. Read the internet article by the Washington Examiner newspaper titled “The Obama You Don’t Know”. You owe it to YOUR COUNTRY to read this article. KNOW AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ABOUT SECRETIVE OBAMA. Here is the website: http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama#.UFsyRxiFdQZ.
C. Read the book "The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House" by Edward Klein.
D. Don't listen to or believe the polls or the biased ma
instream media [CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, AP, Reuters, USA Today, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, NY Times, Miami Herald...they are not journalists...they are liars for FORWARD FAILURE liberals.
E. Nov 6th: you and your friends kick out job killer not my fault not quite shovel ready muslim sympathizer FORWARD FAILURE nobama and all tax and spend politicians. GET INVOLVED; TAKE AN ACTIVE PART IN KICKING OUT OBAMA.
F. Repeal nobamacare and replace it with a better system not run by the Government.
G. Pass mandatory national E-Verify to stop illegals from stealing our jobs.
H. Pass mandatory national Voter ID to stop illegals from stealing our vote.
j2289 - Really? You're bringing up a movie that has been debunked as being all lies and a propaganda piece of Karl Rove? Stupdity runs amoke with you Republicans. But, you'll gladly believe the absurd lies Romney tells every day!
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We saw 2016, good movie. I liked the 2007 video when the Brutha Hussein went Ghetto. He sounded like his hero, Rev. Wright. I fully expected him to Moonwalk off the stage.
Kevin - you've just proved you're a moron!
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Just read that article "the Obama you don't know". WOW, scary $h!t. He along with A$$holerod are real slimballs. They deserve a cell next to Rezko and Blogo.
onermailliw - I'm always amazed that mentally challenged like you read a far right article and grasp it as truth. You are a pitiful person.
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I'm always amazed how you can continue to get a PASS for your direct, personal attacks on other posters whose opinions you don't agree with !!!
He is talking about Obama and Obama is just as much "fair game" to conservatives as Romney is to you self-proclaimed "progressives".
Strong batch of Kool-aid made today I see
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Willard 1040
Another broken-record lefty that can't get passed Romney's tax returns. Why is no one asking where Obama is getting all his campaign funds? Maybe from other countries? Fareed, you need to move on and get past the tax returns. Can we talk about the American Ambassador and others that just were slaughtered? Or how about the White House cover up as to whether this was a terrorist act? But no, lets get hung up on Romney's tax returns. Good God.
Let's not stop with just asking about his campaign funds, let's ask where he accumulated the millions of Dollars he has in his coffers now. On a salary of $400,000/year he couldn't have accumulated all those millions (don't tell me his books, they're not selling anymore). Even if he wouldn't have spent a penny, in 4 years all he would have is 1.6 Million gross and the small amount he had when he took office.
Have he or Michelle been moonlighting? He couldn't have been investing, remember, for his followers, that's a dirty thing to do and only Republicans are doing that. That now leaves the question 'who gave him the money'?
Anne - he is still selling books and they are stil best sellers. Your stupidity knows no limits so you've proved you're a good Republican. It is reported his books are selling well and providing him with a very handsome income stream, And, like all of us , he also has invested.
The stupidity of your post is very telling. Of course you know that more Democrats are 1%ers than Republicans, right?
You're a total moron. Keep posting - you're good for a laugh!
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LD1218 - I'm surprised you don't have a problem with Mitt refusing to do what EVERY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN OUR LIFETIME has done - release at least 5 years of tax returns - not summaries. His father released 12 years. But, clearly Mitt has a lot to hide - like taking amnesty for his tax problems.
But you have no problem with Mitt's dishonesty. Typical Republican - typical low information voter!
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I guess the media throughout is trying it best to make this election exciting. Kind of like a build up to a Super Bowl game. I'm sure most are ready to place their vote and are in no doubt of who they are voting for.
It's America, vote your choice.
President Obama--2012
Romney / Ryan thru 2020
Let's ALL try to work & pay taxes
Say NO to Mootches
Foriegn contributers to Obama under the radar. Read for yourselves and make your own conclusion.
see most people can't make up there minds today when it comes to the foodstamp president,
Gee whiz, if this were a poll showing Obama increasing his lead there would probably be 500 comments. Go figure
No, Obama never has a reason for a shift. Getting you arse handed to you that is a reason for a bump.
Could not get the link. GO to ABC NEWS it is there.
Ranger - NOPE - not at ABC News. However they do report on a shiney object seen on the moon - I know how your righties get deflected by shiney objects - that's probably what you saw.
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How can you see thru those kool -aid glasses SS.
OK girls and boys on both sides. Please take a deep breath and re-think why are you posting. Both sides want their candidate to win, but we know that only one side can. So, please stop the talking points and get out of your comfort zones.
November is upon us and sometime you are up and sometime your down. As for this week the Libs are down and you can tell this by the way that they are posting. Maybe next week the Republicans are down, however you have to agree with me and every one else (not NBC) that the momentum is with Romney and Ryan. So libs suck it in and take a deep breath.
Notice I say Libs and not Dems because there is a big differece between them.
These "polls" are absolutely of no use until the time of the election. They change every week depending on that weeks flavor and how presented to the public by our news outlets.
The one thing the debate did was show America Mitt Romney, not what President Obama or the super-pacs supporting him would like everyone to believe.
It is usually easier for the challenger in the first debate because the President must defend his own record--good or bad. Should be interesting to see the next debate. Will Romney make President Obama keep defending his record, even if the President would rather talk about what he could do for everyone if he gets another 4 years?
One thing I will agree with President Obama on--he said if he didn't fix the economy he didn't deserve a second term, and I think we should hold him to his own words.
Look at your 401K return on investment for the past 4 years.. There are arguements for both sides of the economic issue and if people are better off or not
Bill, while it is true that my retirement account is doing well right now, it is also true tht we have had the highest sustained unemployment and also the lowest labor participation rate since the 1980's. Maybe you could simply ask some of those un-or under-employed people how THEY are doing. Ask the millions added to the foodstamp rolls how they have been doing.
Maybe my BUSINESS has suffered even though my retirement account is doing "just fine".
Mike...Economically, there are variables that are appealing to some and not so encouraging. All depends upon statistics one wants to cite to make an argument either way. Improvement is needed (although that statement could be made for any administration). My impression is that business has seen a drastic improvement over where we were headed at the end of 2007 impacting positively many of our business segments. Acquisitions in 2012 have picked up tremendously.
LMAO so when the polls show Obama up, the GOP says "dont pay attention to them"..now that they show Romney up their all good? my, the GOP has upped their bs to a whole new level.
That said, lets see how mitt debates WITHOUT notes (check youtube for video showing him trying to be sneaky and pull them out but clearly gets caught)
No surprise to the rest of the world at all,whoever smart in this country(USA) is trained to be smart not natural,Romney/Paul can not handle the truth that's the fact,Romney would say one thing and Paul would say another thing, flip-flop on many issues,Romney is out there to say anything that he could possibly say very despirate to become president,believe me his presidecy is going to be the worse in this country,however is going to be one term president no doubt in my mind.
People are actually going to vote this year?