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"....they didnt seem as effective as when delivered in front of a crowd of cheering supporters. "
Well, not every audience can be cheering supporters like MSNBC.....
I see Bob has marked his first in line spot.
Over 3 minutes for 2 sentences? A little slow are we? And here I thought you would have something of consequence. Why am I not surprised.
I'm afraid baking soda won't even get rid of the smell though.
MYTH Romney disrespected the moderator and threw a fit for the first and last word was off putting as well.
tonybeeerm
I see Bob has marked his first in line spot.
Over 3 minutes for 2 sentences? A little slow are we? And here I thought you would have something of consequence. Why am I not surprised.
tony,
It is because Doodle Bob is not cerebral!!!
Beverly - You are full of s**t. Obama had 4 more minutes of time than Romney. Obama can't speak effectively without his teleprompter. We are going to send Obama back to Chicago to be with you. BTW, typing in bold type doesn't help you post any.
Romney spoke more lies, er I mean words.
For the first time in his adult life Obama was confronted with his failures and had no teleprompter.
BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED PRESIDENCY
Hey Bobby,
Obama up by 3.5% in Virginia.
How's that Thurston Howell workin' out for ya?
Obama should have moved 30 more feet from Romney, the Stench coming out of Mitt's mouth was terrible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After reflecting on this debate it really reminded me of "rope a dope". Let it all out Romney the dopehead and put all your cards on the table. OH, all you got is a pair of 3's and a 1 eyed Jack. Let's see what goes down when the gloves come off, much different I expect. It's just feels like quiet reserved patience on President Obamas part..........
Romney talked to Obama like a teacher explaining basic math to a slow pupil.
That's what America saw, it is forever how real Americans will view Obama.
As someone who just doesn't quite get it and we don't know if he ever will.
"not the real Romney"
Anyone who has bothered to take the time and research Romney knows the man we watched on stage was Romney. The intellectual lightweight fool who shared the stage with him?
We all know that was the real Obama.
No vision, no plan, no clue.
How comically deluded. The Romney campaign has not even begun. Next debate is on foreign policy.
Barach Insane Obama...MMMMM.....MMMMM....MMMMM
Tony Beem keeps a stopwatch to time my edits...
Get a life, dude.
I just finshed playing softball, logged in , and needed a minute to think up something to irk liberals...success!
sfcret
Beverly - You are full of s**t. Obama had 4 more minutes of time than Romney. Obama can't speak effectively without his teleprompter. We are going to send Obama back to Chicago to be with you. BTW, typing in bold type doesn't help you post any.
I can post in any format I chose. Unlike you and your other right wing nut job cohorts I post fact and not any nonsensical opinions off my own the way you right wing nut jobs do.
But, MYTH's filibustering helped our President more.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Bob..
That should not take a minute
Bob ...
Really???? And you, sir, have no qualms about posting about every little nuance of the President??? Good laws! I have yet to see a post of yours outlining your love of your candidate. I do see a LOT of negativity towards the President. Still sad that Probe boy wasn't picked as the VP nominee? Get a life and get a job.
Obama/Biden 2012
For MONTHS us conservative, red-blooded Americans have listened to the socialist liberals on this board and elsewhere laugh and taunt stating,
"You evil conservatives just wait until 'ol Barry gets up to the podium in the debates!"
"He's gonna make Romney look retarded!"
If Michelle "Donkey Mouth" Obammy didn't castrate Barry, maybe he woulda had a set last night! What an absolute embarrassment! Clueless about economics as well.
Obama couln't even look into the camera and ask for the American vote!....lol
"You need more than a minute, you need weeks, Rehab time needed I would say" !!!!!!!!!!
Just for Bob ????????????
Conservative Rebellion
How comically deluded. The Romney campaign has not even begun. Next debate is on foreign policy.
Barach Insane Obama...MMMMM.....MMMMM....MMMMM
If Myth gets a 3:AM call the first thing he'll do is put out a press release to blame President Obama because he does not know anything about geography or geopolitics. Does insulting the Brits ring a bell? What about spilling the beans on his top secret meeting with MI6?
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
LMAOOOOO
As Rush said,
"Benghazi was Obummer's 3 am phone call and he didn't get it until 5 pm and then hung up!"
Thanks for the reminder Bev Babe!
The President had just been briefed that Syria had fired on a US ally, and that might bring the US's Nato commitments into play. This could bring the US into conflict with Russia.
Through this, the President remained composed while Romney bullied the moderator, and lied his a$$ off.
The next debate will prove more interesting.
Hey Bev, Layton and all the rest of you Obamatrons, Obama LOST the first debate. Just ask Chris Matthews. That tingle up his leg is now just a blood clot......Bill Maher is looking to get his million back....Al Gore said it was the altitude....hahahaha.....Why is it today Obama finally has a comback to Romneys debate comments? Just like the heading stated, those stale campaign talking points may work for the indoctrinated, but not for the general public....
Obama could have fallen flat on his face in the debate an you guys would still say "he won"....come to think of it, he did fall flat on his face.....hahaha....
Yes Ed, let's move on to Obama's failed foreign policy....perhaps, they can hold the debate in Lybia?..Egypt?..Syria?...Afganistan?.....Yemen?....Iran?...Pakistan?....Oh yeah, that's right the anti-American rallies in the streets would be a distraction....
Foreign policy....FAIL
Economic Policy..FAIL
Jobs policy...FAIL
Energy Policy...FAIL.....How's that $4.00/gal. gas working for you?
Michael1969,
Socialists are pretty cool people, actually. Humanists all. We can only hope that the country moves further left throughout Hillary's two terms, as well.
By then Obamacare will have evolved into full-blown single-payer and the center-left Supreme Court will have affirmed the entire program. Woohoo!
Michael1969
If Michelle "Donkey Mouth" Obammy didn't castrate Barry, maybe he woulda had a set last night! What an absolute embarrassment! Clueless about economics as well.
Michael
Clueless in race relations? Neigh, just your usual stupid a** horse talk. Sadly, you make too many deliberate idiotic statements.
I think it's time you change jockeys.
AWESOME! Socialists are ALWAYS generous with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY! WootWoot!
Just ask Biden's tax returns....lol...1 1/2%.....Crap, I'm just an average Joe citizen and I even topped that!
Beverly - You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the a$$. Obama lied as much as Romney if not more. As far as filibustering, Obama got 4 more minutes to speak than Romney. BTW, Obama was schooled, bitch slapped and spanked all at the same time. Get a life and get out of the Welfare line.
LOL...Bev, with all due respect, you moron.......
What in the F*CK does the fact the Michelle's parents didn't invest in braces for their baby have to do with race?!?!?
Do you wake up every morning looking for someone to pick on you????
Is everything you disagree on about race?
Has anyone ever taught you have to earn respect???
No wonder race relations in this country will never improve with racists like you!
Michael 1969 ...
Stop attacking the First Lady!. We all know how small you are already, but to make that choice? Speaks VOLUMES about you! Again, what do you endorse about Romney? His lies? His hair? His wife? Stand up for something rather than standing in the gutter and throwing spit balls.
Obama/Biden 2012
WTF?!?!?
Are you using your ObamaPhone for your internet connection???
I was only making fun of Barry Obama for being such a wimpy "boy" allowing his wife to hold his balls in a jar while Axle sent him up on stage against a real man!
How is that picking on Donkey Mouth? sheesh
ToxicChemist ...
Hey little man, we actually know that this country is moving forward. I'll give Mitt the Schizophrenic the debate for last night. He is now running around spouting "trickle down" to try and make it something that the President endorses. He'll backtrack again and the President will be stronger in the next debate. Your boy is on first. My President is at home.
When evil and lies come into play, the truth seems to disappear.
Obama/Biden 2012
ToxicChemist
Hey Bev, Layton and all the rest of you Obamatrons, Obama LOST the first debate. Just ask Chris Matthews. That tingle up his leg is now just a blood clot......Bill Maher is looking to get his million back
Your scalawag charlatan remarks will soon fall on dead ears. Here's a zinger for you:
Still, it seems likely that Mr. Romney will make at least some gains in head-to-head polls after the debate, and entirely plausible that they will be toward the high end of the historical range, in which polls moved by about three percentage points toward the candidate who was thought to have the stronger debate.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/polls-show-a-strong-debate-for-romney/
Layton says
"Michael 1969 ...
Stop attacking the First Lady!. We all know how small you are already, but to make that choice? Speaks VOLUMES about you! Again, what do you endorse about Romney? His lies? His hair? His wife? Stand up for something rather than standing in the gutter and throwing spit balls."
How many snide remarks have I seen you left wing nuts throw at Anne Romney? Plenty, so get off your high horse.
BTW, Romney will get more done in one year than Obama has in 3.5 yrs. Obama is a lying, egotistical, and uncompromising President. He lacks LEADERSHIP and knows nothing about cooperation.
sfcret ...
Yeah, right. And you know that how??? Because his business skills are so ... WHAT??? I know the what ... he tells ownership what people should do, fires those who make any money, ships manufacturing off shore and makes a boatload of money for he and his friends. Holy cow! You want that???? Staples, Wal-Mart, Home Depot jobs? People that work but will never qualify for benefits??? You're seriously think that is what this country needs??? SHAME ON YOU!
Obama/Biden 2012
just look at the faked outrage of these conservatives.
These corporations and conservative supporters screwed up the world economy, destroyed millions of Americans' livelihood, but got billions of bonuses (or retention bonuses?) from taxpayers, succeeded in destroying Pres. O's efforts to create jobs, telling all of the middle class 'the hell with you.'
Layton - Any body would be a better President than Obama. We gave Obama his chance and he blew it, now it's time to turn it over to someone else. I don't know if Romney can do better, but I do know that he can't do any worse. Remember Obama said if he couldn't turn it around in 3.5 yrs he didn't deserve a 2d term. Well he didn't turn it around so according to Obama himself he doesn't deserve a 2d term.
sfcret ...
Let me tell you a little secret. Our President does NOT have a magic wand to wave. We have a Congress and Senate. Those are the ones that should answer to the American People. President Obama SHOULD have a second term. He won't be campaigning and he will be able to make a LOT of Congress upset by working towards the goals of the Americans people.
Romney ... holy cow ... let's just say Koch, Adelson, and his flips. If he is elected President, who is driving the car? Ryan has a plan and Mitt endorses it one day and not the next.
I understand you're hating the President. God knows so many that post here do. But they never offer an opinion as to why Mitt Romney should be the next President. The man does NOT connect with the people and they do NOT connect with him!
Obama/Biden 2012
sfcret
How many snide remarks have I seen you left wing nuts throw at Anne Romney? Plenty, so get off your high horse.
You mean like when Ann Romney said " that's all 'you people' get? Isn't that comparable to calling 47% of us peasants like Marie Antoinette did? Ann Romney is as unprepared for the woes of politics as Marie Antoinette?
4 more 4 44
You're babbling and incoherent Bev. You must have worked with Kerry.
Your messiah was crucified last night and he's not going to rise in 3 days or ever.
Foreign policy next. Not Obama's strong suit. Then again, what is? Celebrity elbow rubbing?
Bev in Chicago said,
" Sadly, you make too many deliberate idiotic statements."
Hello frying pan meet kettle!!
Beverly in Chicago, you are the queen of the idiotic statements, most of your comments don't make sense, are barely above a third grade level of intelligence and are offensive to any normal rational thinking human being... So just knock it off and try and write something worth reading for a change!!
Let's turn the page on this failed presidency...
The middle class and your children/grandchildren can't afford 4 more of 44...
16 TRILLION and counting, 6 TRILLION in the last 4 years... tick tick tick
The failed leadership was shown in the debate.
The failed Presidency will stop this November.
Layton...
Kind of a stretch questioning Mr. Romney's "business skills", don't you think ? No...you wouldn't think so at all.
He's one of 18 human beings in the 350+ year history of Harvard to graduate with a law degree AND a Masters in Business Administration on the same day...so he seemed to start out, well... not too shabbily. The only thing we actually know about Mr. Obama's education is that he is not one of those 18 human beings. Beyond that, Mr. Obama has a law firm that has kept his educational records sealed from any public viewing. That's fairly wierd stuff ! So we do know exactly what Mr. Romney's background is...the president's...well, not so much.
Mr. Romney founded and ran one of the most successful private equity firms in the nation...a company that the left's poster boy Bill Clinton says has a "sterling reputation". And with all the pissing and moaning folks like you did about your burning need to see a lifetime of his tax records, did you fail to notice that the man's business skills that you question have likely earned him well over a billion dollars in his career...I'd say his "skills" served him, well... not too shabbily. How did your "skills" work out for you ?
And you can bore the readers with some lame pout about all he ever did was fire people...which any non-poisoned mind knows is just a crock of crap. Spewing and spouting does not detract from the fact that Mr. Romney made himself into one of this country's most successful businessmen. Should Mr. Romney not win the election, perhaps he'll offer to provide training to Mr. Obama on how to work with others and bring opposing forces together to achieve common goals...like a successful businessman does...instead of being a pouty loner with barely a relationship with anyone in the Senate or House. Mr. Romney's accurate description of how he brought about major changes in Massachusetts' health care program by bringing both political parties together for a common goal...as opposed to the ham-handed methods employed by a feckless Mr. Obama to shove his messy ACA thru. It seems that Mr. Romney's "business skills" served both him and the state he governed, well...not too shabbily.
And Mr. Romney must have felt his "business skills" were at least sufficient enough to offer himself up to run the 2002 Olympics being held in this country right after the devastation the country felt after 9-11. An unpoisoned mind would know that when Mr. Romney stepped in to run the Olympic program it was an utter financial mess...yet the games went on superbly and what had been a financially bleeding program was turned into both a financial and athletic success. Once again it seems that he man's "business skils" had served both him and this nation, well...not too shabbily.
It's unfortunate that you are simply unimpressed with Mr. Romney's "business skills"...they just don't stack up in your eyes. The man probably falls asleep at night after tossing and turning and trying to figure out some way to impress this unimpressed fellow named 'Layton'. I hope at some point he'll abandon his frustration and just move on with his failure in life.
Willard had his pack of lies all neatly bundled in order and ready to unload. Big deal. Incumbents have lost 6 of the last 7 first debates, so you rwnj's best not light those victory cigars.
Watching Obama debate Romney was like watching a chemist debate the Sham-Wow guy. The chemist will deliver a factual and well reasoned argument on why the Sham-Wow is.... well, a sham. But after watching that guy's pitch, a lot of people will buy the Sham-Wow anyways.
Hey Mitt, I'm not buying your Sham-Wow!
romney is not selling sham wow.
romney is selling a way out of the obama nightmare. ...and folks are hoping it works.
He's selling snake oil. The same trickle down B.S. that dstroyed the economy under Hovver, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. But I know you won't believe this, becuse I see it's trickling down your chin. Maybe you should get your Sham-Wow and wipe it off.
And I hope the sky will sh!t gold coins. About the same chance of that happening anytime soon.
Romney was acting like a "FUNKY CLOWN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keck is like the Koch Brothers....a big sucker for Romney's lies....
You know, like a Koch sucker...
President Obama wants to speak to Americans directly. That's where he shines and that's when we as a nation shine. You can see it in the photos.
I get the impression Obama has zero respect for Romney, unlike John McCain. He seems to truly dislike Romney, particularly after the 47% remark. Put that together with the way Mitt handled himself during his trip overseas, and you see a man who doesn't represent America or americans very well.
Romney doesn't work, yet he has the audacity to call us moochers.
With Barack Obama we got a good man who is intelligent, thoughtful, hard working.
Yet the Republican Party, made up of mostly fake white angry males, have spent 4 years attempting to humiliate him and make him appear not up to the task of the job, which btw, none of them will ever get the opportunity to do.
They haven't figured out yet that we the people believe in him, and not in them. Mitt included. Obama will never stoop to their level. It's just not in him. If they had a back and forth screaming match, it would have tuned people out. Obama figured that out. The GOP will never figure that out.
Debates aren't like cable shows. Debates are about the presidency. Forget the performance. It's the substance that's important. And Romney showed no substance.
Did you guys get the email from the Obama campaign telling us what Romney sent out this morning - it said - Victory is in Sight.
Damn right Romney.
.
What were his lies? I sure thought I saw Romney hammering Obama for his lying. Obama was so stumped he had to ask if they could move on.
Enjoy these photos while you can. The campaign is almost over. You'll never see another like him in our lifetime. In 4 years he'll be gone.
If you get the chance, go out and see him if he visits your area. Bring your children.
Truly spectacular photos. These people are not coming out to see a candidate, they're coming out to see their (our) president. A president they admire and respect and love.
We'll never again see this kind of relationship between the American people and a president again.
http://theobamadiary.com/
Romney is selling AMERICA.
Not the watered-down crybaby tyranny laden version of the left.
I think I got a tingle down my leg last night. You could almost feel the veil of shame and depression being lifted as Romney schooled the puppet subject after subject as the puppet clinched his jaw in desperate defeat. One could actually feel pride returning for their country for the first time in four years. A sense of hope rushing unabated as a man of intelligence and vision revealed that the king wore no clothes and change was afoot.
It was epic. and apparently the drones missed it.
Your Messiah was crucified last night and he's not rising in three days or ever.
S. Capps ...
Calling BS on that! The President was stumped as was the rest of the Nation looking at a new Romney Ken Doll! He was at bat, scored, but is going back to the dug out. He has NO platform, lies to the American people and sincerely believes he should have the Presidency just because he's earned it. The people of this Nation will not be conned by the "Real Houseman of (what State?)." They can do the math.
Obama/Biden 2012
He dislikes Romney because he knows Romney is his death knell.
For whom does the bell toll?
The bell tolls for Obama.
Does anyone know if Bill Clinton has endorsed Romney yet?
After last night I bet Obama went and early voted for Romney.
It is so hilarious watching the FR sycophants contort to worship their savior after witnessing he's just a snake handler who's been bit and crying out for someone to call 911.
$90,000,000,000 Comment:
Partially True:
Obama did use some of the $90b stimulus money to fund up and coming green energy companies. However Mitt gets into trouble when he asserts that all of the stimulus money went toward green energy instead of education and other areas. This was a lie, only a portion of that 90b went to green enr. and the rest went to other areas such as education and Government construction contracts.
"I do not have a $5 Trillion tax-cut plan"
False:
For 10 months Mitt has been dragging his tax plan around with him, he cannot claim in one night it never happened; there are much too many comments and video segments of him talking about it
"I will not turn Medicare into a voucher"
False:
Under Romney's plan younger people who will be on medicare in the future will be given a voucher for a medicare policy or the choice to waive it and go with a private insurer. This, however, will not affect those about to be on medicare or that are already in the system; he told the truth on that.
"I will put $761B back into Medicare when I repeal Obamacare"
False:
This is the exact same amount of money taken our of Medicare as proposed in the Ryan budget. In order for him to replace that money Romney would have to veto Ryan's plan and request a new plan be drafted.
Those were the lies he told, this does not include distortions though. There were several more of those.
C. R. it is arrogant of you to assume that this election is over and done with. Did you have that same opinion of Regan when he lost his first debate? He went on to win the election. You cannot judge an election by only the first debate. Technically you cannot judge them by any of the Presidential debates.
Everything out right now indicates that Obama is going to take a hit from this debate in the polls however it will not be enough for Mitt to win in November. The race will tighten but it is still anyone's guess who is going to win in the end. Right now, at this moment though Obama has an edge on Romney and Romney still has plenty going against him.
Conservative Rebellion ...
We're leaving the snake handling to you. Jesus is my Savior. Obama is my President. Mitt Romney can't seem to decide who he should be on any given day. As Ann stated, she is worried about his mental health. The rest of us are as well. Schizophrenia is a difficult thing to deal with.
Obama/Biden 2012
You can watch video of Romney taking a position on any issue. Then watch another of him taking the opposite position on that same issue, over and over and over again. Wait, He said he wants to get rid of the capital gains tax on meet the press, but I've never heard him counteract that one. Oh right, he gets almost all of his income through capital gains, so no more taxes for him.
He is not presidential material.
Tony, what you fail to understand is, for many, this is the first time undecided voters are getting their first look at Mitt Romney without the liberal media slant. You know what they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.
Layton, Romney has a 5 point plan, you just refuse to acknowledge it. The problem is not Mitt Romney, it is YOU.
How funny!
So now Romney is schizophrenic?
What does that make Obama other than brain dead?
Jesus wouldn't vote for Obama.
Anyone who would waive sanctions to allow aid to those countries who would force children to fight in wars would not get Jesus's vote.
Anyone who would oversee a program that allowed criminals to get guns and kill hundreds of innocent Mexican nationals would not get Jesus's vote.
Anyone who would sponsor legislation promoting infanticide would not get Jesus's vote
Anyone who would order indiscriminate drone strikes on funerals and wedding parties would not get Jesus's vote.
Obama is your savior but you shall want, he will not walk beside you anywhere. He wants only your vote and nothing more.
Amen
Geowil
Obama will lose because he sucks as president and there are not enough brain dead drones to get him re-elected. It's just that simple.
Romney is more likely to be a psychopath. Pathological lying is a big a factor in the Hare Test, though psychopaths are usually more charming initially than Romney ha displayed. Still, I'd like to see him tested.
ToxicChemist ...
A 5 point plan??? Obviously he couldn't count more than the hand that he held up while trying to figure out with the other hand what five points are.
Obama/Biden 2012
If there is one description that anyone who bothers to pay attention would label Obama as; that would be a pathological liar.
Too Funny.
The left is going even more bonkers.
It's like watching a big snake die. Some parts keep moving for awhile but it's all over.
Where's the red-headed wench with the popcorn?
Actually, Layton, Romney initially had a plan that included many more points. But, the numbers were lowered so slow individuals such as yourself could actually comprehend it.
ToxicChemist .. . .
Romney doesn't have a plan (never did and if he had to dummy it down, it was for those that actually gave a crap about his so-called plan). Ryan does. How on earth does Ryan like looking at the lead dog? The view never changes ....
Obama/Ryan 2012
ToxicChemist
Layton, Romney has a 5 point plan, you just refuse to acknowledge it. The problem is not Mitt Romney, it is YOU.
Have you read MYTH's 5 point plan, quack? I don't think so!!!
4 more 4 44
Toxic...
To be honest, "5" does cover a lot of numbers for some folks to try to comprehend...especially on this website.
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president."
Your argument is so good, because calling the majority of Americans, and democracy foolish is such a constructive and respectful thing to say. If you really believe that America is so bad, why don't you emigrate to one of those South American dictatorships where equality and differing opinions aren't valued?
But are you comfortable with the likes of Mitt Romney who signs pledges not to this country but to billionaire tycoons like Grover Norquist and the Koch's?
Who the heck is Grover Norquist and why are liberals so obsessed with him?
Grover Norquist is a rich a-hole who got every Republican in congress to sign a pledge to him that takes precedent over THEIR OATH OF OFFICE! He a traitor to the U.S.
What was the pledge?
The way I seen it, ROBMEHOOD "FAILED" the debate with all his Lies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama's Speech lines don't pack the same punch because its all bull@!$%#. Quite like your comment Tony.
Romney has never been in congress to sign any pledge
How do you know who signed this pledge or even that a pledge exists?
Is it one of those things Romney was talking about with kids that say something often enough it becomes fact?
Norquist has Romney in his pocket.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57497502/the-pledge-grover-norquists-hold-on-the-gop/
old fat guy,
Please try and keep up . . . Scott posted a link for you. And you are so right! Romney's boys are liars! He stated it so well last night ... "the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree!"
Mirror, mirror on the wall ... who is the biggest liar of all?????? And to the American Public ... SHAME ON YOU MITT ROMNEY!
Obama/Biden 2012
"the apple doesn't fall that far from the tree!"
wasn't Obama's dad a muslim?
S. Capps,
Doesn't that same tree reflect a Christian mother whose own parents were Christian?
Unless you want a barrage of Mormon-bashing, you might be advised to lay off of the Muslim bashing.
Obama's father was born muslim and converted to Anglican.
Romney grew up in a polygamist community. His grandparents left the U.S. to Mexico becuase they would not obey U.S. laws against polygamy.
S. Capps ....
And what have you got against Muslim's???? Spit it out. I'm sure all that nastiness is waiting in your fingers/mouth. So all Muslims are members of Al Queda? And all Christians are members of the KKK? or the Aryan Brotherhood? Seriously ......
For the record, our President is a Christian. It's the tighty-whitey Tea Baggers who state he isn't. As a born-again Christian myself ... I find your post nauseating.
Obama/Biden 2012
Obama's mother was atheist.
Obama's Father and Step father was Muslim.
Romney's mormon.
of the three who's denying what?
S. Capps,
I was incorrect about Ann Dunham. She was not a practicing Christian during her parentage of young Barack.
However, she was no atheist, either. She embraced the affirming spiritual tenets of multiple faiths, including Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, and Judaism.
Come to think of it, that sounds like ME.
You're absolutely correct Layton, who could forget Obama's 20 years in Rev. Wright's "God Damn America" Church.....who would have thought the American public would possibly elect someone who didn't stand up and walk out right then and there......
ToxicChemist ...
I would dare ask if you've ever been to church in your life!
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney signed Norquist's never raise taxes ever pledge on Dec 31, 2006, according to Americans for Tax Reform atr.org. Every Republican in the house, senate, and all those who ran in the primaries have signed it. You Republicans out there who don't know about Grover Norquist, should learn anout him. After all you're working for him.
Actually, Layton, I have faith....and I know I would have walked out of that church when "God damn America" was uttered......You see, I love my country. Do you think God should damn America too??
Earthquakes, Hurricanes and Tornado alley, 'nuf said.
ToxicChemist ...
Yay for you having faith in what??? You do know what faith is??? and so sorry for you that the BIGGEST message that Christ endorsed you forgot!
To truly love and hope and have faith, we must learn to forgive. Matt 6:14-15
Obama/Biden 2012
Patriotic...
Mister Bold Typist...yeah, Romney "FAILED" on debate night. So explain why your media icons like Chris Matthews, Bill Maher, and Rachel Maddow nearly had to be placed into straightjackets due to being so undone by Mr. Romney's dominance of the President during the debate ???
And have you found out whether or not the President of the United States had to bring his own lubricant to the debate ???
it was good to see obama finally recognize how much he has screwed up the country for the last 4 years.
...it took romney, face to face, to point it out to him.
I hope Americans have the strength to get through this difficult time watching Romney lie through his teeth, the moderator should have disqualified this dirtbag Mitt for lying !!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Dirtbag". Nice soft touch !
There's no grounds for disqualification at the debates, but perhaps they'll put in some type of "mercy rule" to stop the bleeding when one candidate so completely destroys the other...just like the other night.
A tightening of the national polls is meaningless if the tally in the electoral college does not move, and it isn't.
Obama 269, Romney 181.
Obama leading in five of seven toss up states.
If you do not mind me asking sir, I was curious to see were you got your latest electoral map count. I am a supporter of President. Obama, your numbers show the President of from 243 to 191 to 269 to 181. Could you inform me of your source. Thank You!
The polls are moving in Romney's direction , no question.
The supposed electoral college lead is theoretical.
Ask the Texas Rangers, who were in first place for months, but lost it when it mattered, at the end of the campaign.
JME,
Real Clear Politics; check the RCP Electoral Map in the upper right.
Real Clear Politics is consistently cited by both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS as a current source for reliable
AVERAGED polling data at every level of American politics.
Real Clear last week increased the number of total 'toss-up states' still in play at the national level from
six to seven, adding Missouri which had previously been leaning Romney.
As a result, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Missouri, Colorado, Iowa, and Nevada are the seven states yet to be placed in either their Obama or Romney camps.
Beyond that, of the forty-three states no longer considered toss-up, Obama can lay claim with relative
certainty to receiving 269 electoral votes to Romney's 181, and everyone knows that 270 electoral votes wins the Presidency outright.
So there it is.
Assuming the present trajectory of the race continues, by winning any ONE of the seven remaining toss-up
states, when added to the total number of electoral votes from states no longer deemed toss-up by Real Clear Politics, the election could most certainly be declared essentially decided.
At present, with only 32 days left in the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama leads in five of the seven remaining toss-up states.
In FL, with 29 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 2.0%.
In NC, with 15 electoral votes, Romney's lead is 0.8%.
In VA, with 13 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.5%.
In MO, with 10 electoral votes, Romney's lead is 5.2%.
In CO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.1%.
In NV, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 5.2%.
In IO, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.5%.
If the President takes ANY ONE TOSS-UP STATE from among Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Missouri, Colorado, Nevada, or Iowa the presidential race should be effectively over.
Conversely, for Romney to pull off an upset, he has NO CHOICE but to win ALL SEVEN of the remaining toss-up states, thereby matching the President's electoral total of 269, in order to have the election decided by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.
A herculean task for Mr. Romney, to be sure. In Paul Ryan's world, however, and with all apologies to his oft-quoted mentor, Ayn Rand, the task might come down to the degree to which Atlas shrugs.
Bob,
Sorry, but you're wrong about the polls moving in Romney's direction. Some are and some aren't.
The electoral college projection is empirical rather than theoretical, and it is inevitable that Obama will win.
...and I DID ask the Texas Rangers. I was at the game where my A's crushed them yesterday.
You're deluded citing the polls of the deluded. Romney 320 electoral votes. 55% of the popular vote.
You cite the skewed polls which base their polling demographics on 2008. Which is weird because 2010 actually captures the mood of the country more accurately.
But forget those, think 1980. Think Carter. Think failure on that level. That is the Obama presidency.
Near the end of last night's debate I was actually hoping Romney would say, "there ya go again".
Hilarious
Are you responding to me, Conservative Rebellion? Sorry, but you're still on Ignore....well, I'm not really sorry.
BTW....some polls actually have Romney leading in the "toss up" states. Pick your poison.
Romney in a landslide. Most Americans despise failed Chicago thug politicians. Even "historic" ones.
It's understandable why someone who posts such obviously skewed "facts" would ignore anyone with an opinion based in real fact; you must keeep your dream alive, "how long is Obama's zipper?"
Your "facts" are biased bs buddy. I'm merely suggesting it's probably time for you to recalculate and consider your source.
Obama is done. Your polls will begin to reflect it soon. We all know the left eat their own if they think it means they get more air time or ad space.
Too funny
Not only that dude, you're lying. Obama doesn't have 269 electoral votes in his pocket. Sheesh. Everyone should ignore your idiocy.
Conservative...
While I would be quite pleased to have such an educated and accomplished man like Mitt Romney win in November...I have my doubts that it will happen based on a word Mr. Obama likes to trot out when he's trying to make a point..."math".
It's fairly basic that Mr. Obama will once again get 96-97% of the black vote...about three-quarters of both the children's vote and the hispanic vote...and probably right around that same percentage among municipal, state, and federal government union workers.
That's a pretty healthy edge right off the bat. When you begin to add the numbers up, I don't know if there are sufficient votes out there to make up the difference.
Mitt Romney demonstrated far more than a command of facts, figures and debating skills last night. What he accomplished reveals the way he faces challenges, and that is far more important than simply winning this one debate.
Romney worked very hard in preparation. He applied his superior intelligence. He planned ahead accurately and effectively. He executed his plan flawlessly. And those are the characteristics of a true leader.
Yes, his lies were real convincing. Well, at least to you they were, lol.
He demonstrated that he is willing to say anything that sounds good. Not only was he contradicting his whole campaign, he was contradicting himself in the same debate.
Fact Check:
OBAMA: It's important "that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild America."
THE FACTS: This oft-repeated claim is based on a fiscal fiction. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were paid for mostly with borrowed money, so stopping them doesn't create a new pool of available cash that can be used for something else, like rebuilding America. It just slows down the government's borrowing.
Hey Tony, Obama prepared for this debate in the same manner he has managed the country for the last 3.5 years....POORLY....
Obama 'bin Lyin, and when Mitt Romney confronted his lies ... Obama had no answers, all he could do was look down ... the same place he is going, DOWN !!!
tonybeeerm
Willard had his pack of lies all neatly bundled in order and ready to unload.
Did Romney bring cheat notes into the debate? Check out his handkerchief too.
We Can't Trust Mitt Romney. He's a liar & a fraud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV5m1NxffEs&feature=player_embedded
Watch Romney's right hand.
What's up with that?
It happens in the first 11 second of the video linked below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkrwUU_YApE&feature=player_embedded
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They're not supposed to bring notes into the debate. I keep saying the GOP /Tea Nagger rule is CHEAT TO WIN"
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
Despite the fact that Obama looked bumbling and uncertain in comparison with Romney, there were some subtle maneuverings going on that were not readily apparent. Obama did, in fact, rehearse for the debate (with John Kerry playing Romney). Obama planned and laid well-camouflaged verbal traps for Romney. He, no doubt, had rehearsed some indignant little speeches he could use in his rebuttals.
Romney spotted every one of Obama's little traps with ease, brushed past them, and continued to dominate the debate. On that level, Obama appeared like Austin Powers playing chess with Boris Spassky.
We desperately need a President who can match wits with other world leaders and bring the US out ahead. Rather than Obama who can be manipulated so easily by the flattery and bullying of ruthless people much smarter than himself.
6 BLATANT AND CONFIRMED LIES FROM ROMNEY DURING THE DEBATE
Romney Lie #1:
“Mr President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land. Not on government land. On government land, your Administration has cut the numbers of permit and licenses in half,” Romney said.
Data from the BLM shows that the number of drilling permits on federal lands approved during the fiscal years President Obama has been in office has decreased somewhere between 20 and 37 percent compared to the years before he became president - not the 50 percent Romney claimed.
Lie #2 Romney claimed President wrong about seniors paying $6000 for healthcare.
Looking at Ryan’s 2011 plan, the Congressional Budget Office estimated seniors would pay more for their health care under Ryan’s plan. The CBO projected that by 2022, seniors would pay 61 percent of their health care costs, versus 27 percent under current law.
The $6,000 figure comes from a Center for Budget and Policy Priorities study, based on the CBO’s analysis, which projected that seniors’ out-of-pocket costs would rise from $6,150 to $12,500 per year on average under Ryan’s plan.
Lie #3:
Governor Romney: Right now the CBO says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as Obamacare goes into effect next year.
Politfact says it’s FALSE.
Lie #4:
Governor Romney: Number one, pre existing conditions are covered under my plan.
Mitt Romney does not think insurance companies should have to cover people with pre-existing conditions who have not had continuous health care coverage.
The Affordable Care Act, on the other hand, created special health care plans in 2010 for people who have pre-existing conditions, and by 2014 it will prohibit insurance companies from denying coverage to anyone because of a pre-existing condition.
Lie #5:
Governor Romney: What I support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to Medicare. And the President supports taking $716 billion out of that program.
Romney’s claim that Obama wants to cut Medicare by $716 billion dollars is a misconstrued statement. What Obama did was, through the Affordable Care Act, reduce growth of Medicare over 10 years. This reduction in growth would actually benefit Medicare beneficiaries by extending the life of Medicare. Obama’s reduction plan comes through at payments to hospitals as part of Medicare Part A.
Moreover, Medicare does not have nearly 716-billion available to take out of their fund (if that was Obama’s plan, which it is NOT). According to CMS, at the end of 2011 the current fund has around 244-billion
Lie #6
Lie: Romney
I will not cut taxes for the wealthy!
Romney, though, insisted the 20 percent across-the-board rate cut he’s pushing is not as sweeping as the president describes and wouldn’t hurt the middle class.
If it is "20% across the board" how does that NOT include the wealth
I can do it too.
LIE #1: OBAMA SAYS HIS PLAN REDUCES THE DEFICIT BY $4 TRILLION
THE CLAIM: Obama: "I've Proposed A Specific $4 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan." OBAMA: "I've proposed a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. ... The way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for $1 in additional revenue." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: "Virtually No Serious Budget Analyst Agreed With This Accounting." "But virtually no serious budget analyst agreed with this accounting. Obama's $4 trillion figure, for instance, includes counting some $1 trillion in cuts reached a year ago in budget negotiations with Congress. So no matter who is the president, the savings are already in the bank." (Glenn Kessler, "Factchecking The First Presidential Debate Of 2012," The Washington Post's The Fact Checker, 10/4/12)
LIE #2: OBAMA CLAIMED HE WOULD RETURN AMERICA TO TAX RATES UNDER CLINTON
THE CLAIM: Obama: "We Should Go Back To The Rates That We Had When Bill Clinton Was President." OBAMA: "But I have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the rates that we had when Bill Clinton was president, when we created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus, and created a whole lot of millionaires to boot." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: "Obama Repeated A Favorite Talking Point" But Americans Will Pay More Under Obama Than Clinton Due To New Taxes In ObamaCare. "Obama repeated a favorite talking point, saying that his tax plan would return rates for the wealthy back to where they were during economically prosperous times under President Bill Clinton. But those making over $250,000 a year would actually pay more than they did under Clinton due to new taxes imposed on upper-income people to pay for the health care law." (Brooks Jackson, Eugene Kiely, Lori Robertson, Robert Farley, D'Angelo Gore and Ben Finley, "Dubios Denver Debate Declarations," Factcheck.org, 10/4/12)
LIE #3: OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S MEDICARE PLAN WOULD COST SENIORS $6,000 A YEAR
THE CLAIM: Obama: "The Problem Is That Because The Voucher Wouldn't Necessarily Keep Up With Health Care Inflation, It Was Estimated That This Would Cost The Average Senior About $6,000 A Year." OBAMA: "The problem is that because the voucher wouldn't necessarily keep up with health care inflation, it was estimated that this would cost the average senior about $6,000 a year. Now, in fairness, what Governor Romney has now said is he'll maintain traditional Medicare alongside it ." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: The Washington Post 's The Fact Checker: "He Still Clung To An Outdated Estimate Of An Earlier Version Of The Plan, Claiming It Will Cost Seniors An Extra $6,000 A Year. (He Had Previously Earned Two Pinocchios For This Claim.)" " In the debate, Obama acknowledged that the GOP Medicare plan, authored by Romney running mate Paul Ryan, has been changed. But he still clung to an outdated estimate of an earlier version of the plan, claiming it will cost seniors an extra $6,000 a year. (He had previously earned Two Pinocchios for this claim.)" (Glenn Kessler, "Factchecking The First Presidential Debate Of 2012," The Washington Post's The Fact Checker, 10/4/12)
LIE #4: OBAMA SAYS ROMNEY'S PLAN WOULD RAISE TAXES ON MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES
THE CLAIM: Obama: Under Romney, "The Average Middle-Class Family With Children Would Pay About $2,000 More." OBAMA: "And that's why independent studies looking at this said the only way to meet Governor Romney's pledge of not reducing the deficit -- or -- or -- or not adding to the deficit, is by burdening middle-class families. The average middle-class family with children would pay about $2,000 more." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: "Romney Says His Plan Wouldn't Raise Taxes On Anyone, And His Campaign Points To Several Studies By Conservative Think Tanks That Dispute The Tax Policy Center's Findings." "Romney says his plan wouldn't raise taxes on anyone, and his campaign points to several studies by conservative think tanks that dispute the Tax Policy Center's findings. Most of the conservative studies argue that Romney's tax plan would stimulate economic growth, generating additional tax revenue without shifting any of the tax burden to the middle class." (Calvin Woodward, "FACT CHECK: Presidential Debate Missteps," The Associated Press, 10/4/12)
LIE #5: OBAMA SAYS HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS ARE BECOMING MORE AFFORDABLE
THE CLAIM: Obama Said "Health Care Premiums Have Gone Up -- It Is True -- But They Have Gone Up Slower Than Any Time In The Last 50 Years." OBAMA: "The fact of the matter is that when Obamacare is fully implemented, we are going to be in a position to show that costs are going down. Over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up -- it is true -- but they have gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years. We are already seeing progress." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: Obama Was Wrong To Say That Care Premiums Have "Gone Up Slower Than Any Time In The Last 50 Years." "Obama wrongly said that over the last two years, health care premiums have 'gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.'" (Brooks Jackson, Eugene Kiely, Lori Robertson, Robert Farley, D'Angelo Gore and Ben Finley, "Dubios Denver Debate Declarations," Factcheck.org, 10/4/12)
LIE #6: OBAMA SAYS GOV. ROMNEY'S PLAN IS A $5 TRILLION TAX CUT
THE CLAIM: Obama Said "Gov. Romney's Central Economic Plan Calls For A $5 Trillion Tax Cut." OBAMA: "Gov. Romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut - on top of the extension of the Bush tax cuts, that's another trillion dollars - and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. That's $8 trillion. How we pay for that, reduce the deficit, and make the investments that we need to make, without dumping those costs onto middle-class Americans, I think is one of the central questions of this campaign." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: Obama "Is Off Base Here." "The president said Romney was proposing a $5 trillion tax cut and Romney said he wasn't. The president is off base here - Romney says his rate cuts and tax eliminations would be offset and the deficit wouldn't increase." (Brooks Jackson, Eugene Kiely, Lori Robertson, Robert Farley, D'Angelo Gore and Ben Finley, "Dubios Denver Debate Declarations," Factcheck.org, 10/4/12)
THE FACTS: "Romney Is Not Proposing A $5 Trillion Reduction In Taxes." (Brooks Jackson, Eugene Kiely, Lori Robertson, Robert Farley, D'Angelo Gore and Ben Finley, "Dubios Denver Debate Declarations," Factcheck.org, 10/4/12)
LIE #7: OBAMA SAYS HIS PLAN IS BALANCED IN THE MANNER OF SIMPSON-BOWLES
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed His Deficit-Reduction Plan Was "Balanced." OBAMA: "Now, we all know that we've got to do more. And so I've put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit-reduction plan. It's on a website. You can look at all the numbers, what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. And the way we do it is $2.50 for every cut, we ask for a dollar of additional revenue, paid for, as I indicated earlier, by asking those of us who have done very well in this country to contribute a little bit more to reduce the deficit. And Governor Romney earlier mentioned the Bowles-Simpson commission. Well, that's how the commission -- bipartisan commission that talked about how we should move forward suggested we have to do it -- in a balanced way with some revenue and some spending cuts. And this is a major difference that Governor Romney and I have. (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: "Obama Made The Deficit-Cutting Plan He's Offered Sound Comparable To The Plan From The Chairman Of The Simpson-Bowles Debt Cutting Commission. But It's Not...." "Obama made the deficit-cutting plan he's offered sound comparable to the plan from the chairmen of the Simpson-Bowles debt cutting commission. But it's not: his proposal doesn't save as much money as Simpson-Bowles and doesn't offer the kinds of detailed entitlement cuts the panel's leaders did. The president's $4 trillion plan, including $3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in tax hikes from allowing the Bush-era tax cuts to expire, is spread over 10 years-a year longer than Simpson-Bowles. It sounds like a minor difference, but cuts and spending balloon in the so-called out years. Also, Obama doesn't touch Social Security in his plan. And the tax changes and war spending are accounted in ways that make Obama's plan substantially less aggressive." (Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, "Fact-Checking The Denver Debate," Politico, 10/4/12)
LIE #8: OBAMA SAYS HE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO SIMPSON-BOWLES FOR HIS OWN PLAN
THE CLAIM: Obama Said He Had Made Adjustments To The Simpson-Bowles Commission Recommendations. JIM LEHRER: "Governor Romney, do you support Simpson-Bowles?" MITT ROMNEY: "I have my own plan it is not as Simpson-Bowles. But in my view the President should have grabbed it. If you have some adjustments, make it, take it to Congress, fight for it." BARACK OBAMA: "That's what we've done. Made some adjustment to it. Putting it before Congress right now. $4 trillion plan." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell: "Just Ask Alan Simpson Or Erskine Bowles Whether President Obama Embraced Them In The Rose Garden." MSNBC'S ANDREA MITCHELL: "And then President Obama saying that he went with Simpson Bowles. Well we know that he didn't. You know I flew out on the same plan as Alan Simpson. Alan Simpson is on the debate commission. Just ask Alan Simpson or Erskine Bowles whether President Obama embraced them in the Rose Garden. Instead he walked away and sort of gave them a pat on the back." (MSNBC's "Morning Joe," 10/4/12)
LIE #9: OBAMA REPEATS THE WAR SAVINGS "FISCAL FICTION"
THE CLAIM: Obama: It's Important "That We Take Some Of The Money That We're Saving As We Wind Down Two Wars." OBAMA: "I think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in America, that we change our tax code to make sure that we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the United States, that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild America and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make these critical investments." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: The Washington Post 's The Fact Checker: "This Is Fantasy Money." " This is fantasy money. The administration is counting $848 billion in phantom savings from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, even though the administration had long made clear those wars would end. In other words, by projecting war spending far in the future, the administration is able to claim credit for saving money it never intended to spend. And Obama would still be borrowing [sic] the money to 'rebuild America' (Imagine someone borrowing $50,000 a year for college-and then declaring that they have an extra $500,000 to spend over the next decade once they graduate.)" (Glenn Kessler, "Factchecking The First Presidential Debate Of 2012," The Washington Post's The Fact Checker, 10/4/12)
LIE #10: OBAMA SAYS HE HAS CREATED 5 MILLION PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS
THE CLAIM: Obama: "Over The Last 30 Months, We've Seen 5 Million Jobs In The Private Sector Created." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: "That Statistic Tries To Obscure The Fact That The Overall Job Record So Far In This Presidential Term Has Been Negative." "He claimed 5 million jobs have been created in the private sector in the past 30 months; that statistic tries to obscure the fact that the overall job record so far in this presidential term has been negative." (Glenn Kessler, "Fact Check: Obama's Jobs Stat," The Washington Post's Fact Checker, 10/3/12)
LIE #11: OBAMA MAKES FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT GOV. ROMNEY'S ECONOMIC PLAN
THE CLAIM: Obama Attributed The Financial Crisis To Policies That Governor Romney Supports. OBAMA:"The approach that Governor Romney's talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003, and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years, we ended up moving from surplus to deficits, and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: The Washington Post 's The Fact Checker: "Here, The President Comes Close To Repeating A Line That Just This Week Earned Him Three Pinocchios." "Here, the president comes close to repeating a line that just this week earned him Three Pinocchios. In a new television ad, Obama said that tax cuts and deregulation led to the crisis. But in the debate he broadened his language, bringing in the impact of the Bush tax cuts on the deficit and not directly linking the policies ('it all culminated' versus 'led to') to the financial crash." (Glenn Kessler, "Factchecking The First Presidential Debate Of 2012," The Washington Post's The Fact Checker, 10/4/12)
LIE #12: OBAMA SAYS SOCIAL SECURITY IS "STRUCTURALLY SOUND"
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That Social Security Is "Structurally Sound." OBAMA: "Social Security is structurally sound. It's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Speaker -- Democratic Speaker Tip O'Neill. But the basic structure is sound." (President Barack Obama, Presidential Debate, Denver, CO, 10/3/12)
THE FACTS: MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Said That "But According To The Congressional Budget Office, Social Security Will Run Into Financial Trouble Too." MSNBC'S ANDREA MITCHELL: "President Obama said that unlike Medicare Social Security does not have to be fixed to remain solvent but according to the Congressional Budget Office, Social Security will run into financial trouble too. By 2030 the amount Social Security pays out will exceed the tax revenue coming in. So in about 20 years the program will not be able to pay for itself through the payroll tax that's we all pay in. So Brian, the debate will continue on twitter and everywhere else as these facts are checked and counterchecked." (NBC, 10/3/12)
LIE #13: S.Capps post # 9.1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a happy life with those crayons and helmet, I can lead you to water but I can't force you to drink. I don't want obama's kool-ade
LIE #14 S.CAPPS post #9.3
Have some more Kool-Ade.......Romney's Urine flavor
If Mr. Romney told so many lies during the debate why didn't Mr. Obama correct him right there at the debate? Having watched the same debate I do not recall him putting up a rebuttal. Personally I would think since the statements made were about Obama's record then Obama would be the best one to defend that record and during that debate he did not. Just as an example:
Why not start out with - "Mr. Romney you are exaggerating the figures..." - instead he left it out there.
Thirty minutes into the debate, wow, I was so relieved that Romney was strong, assertive, in command of facts and called out the President on the mistruths he and his campaign had been telling. Phew!
Then I thought he should have backed off a bit. Pummeling the President began to feel ….I don’t know…sad and wrong somehow. I started to feel sorry for President Obama.
President Obama speaks to adoring crowds. The Senate majority leader throws out lies and distortion at his beck and call. His staff, I’m sure, never questions him. He’s completely detached from the actual job of the Presidency, yet is in control of the free world.
This has become frightening. Here is our President, seeming a little too bothered to prepare for a debate with an inadequate challenger, is stunned by being confronted with the ineffectiveness of his policies. He thought a charming smile, and the stump speech talking points that he feeds to his followers were going to be enough.
This, folks, is how he perceives himself in dealing with Congress (they should simply go along with his policies and if they offer an idea of their own – representing the views of their constituents --- he will just have to dismiss and say No as good parents sometimes have to do).This is how he perceives himself on dealing with our allies and partners (he need not get involved, offer support, work with them – he needs only to exist and the pure reality of his existence should be enough).
He fought back –not last night – but today – only in front of supportive crowds that he knew would cheer him on. He is not up to the challenge of this country’s diversity of thought and ideals. We need to let him loose so he can go on speaking tours to adoring audiences, where he can drive the orations without doubt and we can move on repairing this country under a moderate leadership.
Sorry to my liberal friends ---
Time for a change.
Candice,
I agree with the change but the change needs to happen in Congress. They are the obstructionists and they are the ones that are collecting big fat checks and benefits while the country struggles waiting for those that we have elected on a local level to do something. We do not live under a "kingdom." We are all Citizens of the great USA. We have a vote and our vote counts. The Congress has killed this country. Those are the ones that need to go ... time for a change of Congress.
Obama/Biden 2012
Candice,
Sorry to my liberal friends ---
Time for a change.
That's right Candice. It's time for you to admit your moderate views have shifted to right wing crack pot rhetoric.
4 more 4 44
Obama/Biden 2012
now i see why Obama lost...moderate Romney came on stage ...Obama was not prepaid for a moderate Romney
now i see why Obama lost...moderate Romney came on stage ...Obama was not prepaid for a moderate Romney
now i see why Obama lost...moderate Romney came on stage ...Obama was not prepaired for a moderate Romney
now i see why Obama lost...moderate Romney came on stage ...Obama was not prepaired for a moderate Romney
i was wrong about the 47 forget about it......hahahahahahaha
Im not going to cut a thing ..just big bird
hey Romney will you cut the faith base .. taxes Bush made...that's waist of tax payers money..Churches can pay there own way without taxes from the government
hey Romney will you cut the faith base .. taxes Bush made...that's waist of tax payers money..Churches can pay there own way without taxes from the government
hey Romney will you cut the faith base .. taxes Bush made...that's waist of tax payers money..Churches can pay there own way without taxes from the government
One more time elvis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patriotic American U.S.A.
One more time elvis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patriotic American please don't ask metoo999 to re-post his screed. It is so nauseous.
Hey, metoo999
Why don't you take an enema to rid yourself of you toxins.
Dude or dudette you might wanna try some Ambien. You need some serious rest too.
That sh!t you post has been debunked countless times. All you're doing is showing every one here how stupidly ignorant you are.
hey Romney will you cut the faith base .. taxes Bush made...that's waist of tax payers money..Churches can pay there own way without taxes from the government
Romney a President the world could not trust
I wouldn't trust Romney with his dog !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neither does the dog!
Yeah, Obama's dog trusted him ... at least until Obama ate him !
Any more irrelevant BS from you lefties today ? Are you still smarting from the beatdown Romney administered to Obama ?
Wow! Obama, his groupies, and his media must really be panicked! They are trying to spin this up to about 30,000 RPM.
No excuse is too far-fetched for them: It was the altitude. It was Romney's acting skill. Mitt was loud(?) Romney lied, and Obama was too much of a gentleman to call him on it. Obama was “off his game." I even heard one commenter suggest that Romney cheated by actually preparing for the debate. Horrors!
Lol. Tell me about it, Kannin. FeistyRedHead was on the last article saying that perhaps Obama lost INTENTIONALLY. What can possibly be next?
Barack Obama:
Alias: Barry Soetoro
Father: Barack Obama, muslin, communist sympathizer
Mother: Stanley Ann Dunham
Mother's parents; acclaimed communists
Parents married 2/2/61; Barack born 8/5/61...umm
Parents divorced 1964
Mother remarries Lolo Soetoro, Muslim, moves to Indonesia 1967
Barack adopted by Lolo and renamed Barry Soetoro age 6
Barack sent to mother's parents to live 1971. Frank Marshall Davis (proclaimed communist)
becomes Barack's mentor, while in high school. Barack becomes attracted to Marxism with help from his mentor.
Attended Occidental College (L.A., Ca) registered as Barry Soetoro and received a state grant as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia.
Barack Obama writes in his book "Dreams From My Father", that while @ Occidental, he chose his friends very
carefully........politically active black students, along with Marxist professors and structural feminists. and DOING DRUGS.......
After 2 yrs. he leaves Occidental and attends Columbia U. Graduates and then attends Harvard where he becomes president of the Harvard Law Review.
Barack reads "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky & embraces the concepts.
Barack Obama meets Bill Ayers an unrepented terrorist & co-founder of the Weather Underground. In the 1960's, this group claimed responsibility for a dozen bombings.
Barack Obama joins the New Party formed by the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), the largest socialistic organization in the US.
Years later, when Barack Obama was being sworn in as IL State Attorney, he was asked (under oath) if he had ever used any other name. He responded "none".
Once you are adopted, no prior names exist....read the adoption laws, then take your foot out of your mouth.
So then which name is it? Birth name? Adopted name? While I admit I am not taking the time to read the adoption laws it would seem to me that if, when adopted he took his step father's name he would then have to go to court to have it legally changed back to his birth name wouldn't he? So when asked (under oath) if he had ever used any other name, the answer would be yes. How does the adoption laws work when you change your name back?
That was Obama who has actually eaten a dog, not Romney, Romney took the dog on vacation.
Obama was 6 years old.
Romney put the dog "in an air-tight crate" so it would get fresh air.
Hahahahahaha. Tell you what, Liberals. Let's play a little game. Do you remember Susan from Sesame Street singing "One of these things is not like the other"? You tell me which statement doesn't belong:
1. "Obama stump speech lines don't pack same punch in debate"
2. "Biden defends Obama debate performance"
3. "Obama looks to rebound after debate"
4. "Obama crushed Romney last night."
You Liberals were telling me #4 all night long last night, but it seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeems that there is a bit of discrepancy here. Why does Obama need to rebound, and why does Biden need to defend him, and why is NBC telling us that his lines didn't pack any punch if he WON?
In a debate, intelligence trumps aggressive, long winded talk, and the audience is quiet! In a stump speech the people can make noise.
Obama-Biden in 2012
Tell me . . . how can you be 'long-winded' when your responses are timed?
Because the moderator didn't have the balls to tell him to shut up!
Obama was more respectful of the time limits...obviously.
And, although you can't and won't accept this - I'm NOT a liberal. Does that screw-up your small mind? hahahahaha
Poor fella...
I'd hate to be as desperate as you and the rest of your friends are right now. :-) As for the moderator not doing his job, I believe it was President Obama who told him he did a great job the whole evening....
Also, those who timed the overall amount of time spent talking had Obama getting more minutes allowed !
But then again, "hot air" does take longer to get out ! LOL !!