really, people still think teleprompter jokes are funny? easily amused.

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Tell that to lefty liberal mega-moron Bill Mahar.

He should be "energized"...he rested through the whole debate!

You cannot funnel money when the budget you propose gets zero votes and when the Democrats in the Senate cannot come up with a budget in 3 years.

Did you even read what I wrote? I think you need to read it again.

watched Fox News during my lunch, they had a group of "indepenents" who thought Romney won the debate.

a girl said "I really liked that Mitt Romney didnt have any specifics, he's going to go to the White House, sit down with democrats and republicans, and work together on coming up with solutions"...and everyone agreed.

Then a few minutes later, quite a few said "what I really liked about the debate, Mitt Romney had a ton of specifics"

*EPIC FACE PALM

so, uh, how will Mitt Romney work with Democrats, if Democrats pull a republican move and declare "our mission is to make Mitt Romney a 1 term president"?

Obama didnt have much luck getting them to cooperate, explain why Republicans are optimistic that Romney will have luck getting democrats to work with him?

Unless of course, you're going to admit that democrats care more about America than they do themselves, and therefore, wont make that proclaimation and WILL work with the republican president as they have always done.

Who knew that Obama, who is such an elegant speaker, could be such an incoherent boob in a debate.

Easier to be Energized and Enthusiastic when no one is standing next to you calling BS. The cheering crowds wil pick him up but last night was a WIPEOUT and did some damage!

"Who knew that Obama, who is such an elegant speaker, could be such an incoherent boob in a debate."

According to Al Gore it was the altitude. How ridiculous! Liberalism is definitely a mental disorder.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/al-gore-actually-blames-high-altitude-in-denver-for-obamas-debate-performance/

really, people still think teleprompter jokes are funny? easily amused.

No, we think it is sad that he can't have an original thought with out it.

I just don't understand why the Liberals can not accept the fact that Obama received a big time smackdown last night. This is what happens when you accept a challange for which you are not prepared. Kind of like the last four years. Best excuse yet whould be Al Gore's, blaming it on the altitude in Denver. What a bunch of Liberal sheeple. NO MORE OF 44

One of the adoring talking heads speculated last night that Obama was a disaster but maybe Crazy Joe could save the day in the VP debate against the numbers crunching Ryan. That is desperate and delusional!

Look for Ryan to go to Joe's quote and agree that the "middle class has been buried the last four years"

It would be really refreshing if the American public would listen to the debates for what they are meant to be - an opportunity to listen to both sides. Just by reading 99% of these posts - those that are so loyal to the left or to the right are missing half of the big picture. You are watching with blinders on. Take them off and you might be enlightened.

Obama won't come out as limp wristed next time. But he is going to have trouble defending his record. See we're not in a golden age and after 4 years Bush still cant be boogeyman in the closet. See Obama continued or expanded a lot of Bush's misgivings. Obama wanted ACA, he thought he'd get it with little resistence. He thought he could get what he wants all the time. The radicals on both sides have trashed this country. I heard about budgets last night and I was surprised Romney didn't mention we as America still dont have one. Kind of important dont you think? We have a tanking economy and no structure (budget) and we talk of cures. I think Obama has a much greater hill to climb in the debates. Romney just has to continue what he did last night.

Watching the VP debate means that you've darned all your socks and washed your hair, and there's no "Storage Wars" of "Toddlers and Tiaras" on...

Good question for the VP debate;

"The leader of a semi-important ally dies...Do you wear the black suit or the navy blue? to the funeral"

Laker - the largest part of the stimulus funds (which is where the $90 billion for green energy came from) went to education.

He did invest in education, and additionally in Green Energy.

I'm not going to deny that the investment in these companies was handled poorly, but im sure even Mitt Romney has made a few bad investments in his career. Sometimes, you just cant tell what companies (or people) are going to rip you off.

Of course, Mitt admitted that he offshores work - by stating that he must not have had the right accountant all these years.

I think thats a bigger issue to contend with, because it's central to why our economy is struggling - fewer workers, fewer people in the middle income bracket means fewer people who are customers - and CUSTOMER DRIVE JOB GROWTH.

that has ALWAYS been #1 tennet of econ 101 - businesses hire because they have more customers than their current workforce can handle, not because their rich CEO's got tax breaks.

those that are so loyal to the left or to the right are missing half of the big picture. You are watching with blinders on. Take them off and you might be enlightened.

Yep and well said.

Obama lost the debate. But the American public lost because there was nothing specific said. Mostly by Mitt but even Obama didn't get too particular when asked.

Obama's job last night was not to produce any gaffes and he succeeded. Romney needed to do well, and he did, only because he came in as a brand new candidate.

There is no way in hell Romney can permanently extend Bush era cuts, plus drop taxes an additional 20% and remain revenue neutral. He intends to cut mortgage interest and education tax deductions across all tax rates. There is no other way he can pay for it. We also don't need 2 trillion in new military spending.

GHS: Obama: "oil and gas production are at an all time high!" (lie #1) Romney: "it is private oil and gas production that is at an all time high, government production of oil and gas is NOT at an all time high"

4 44 is coming true:

Gasoline at the pump gained 8.3 cents to $4.315 a gallon in California yesterday, according to AAA.com, 53.1 cents more than the national average.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-03/california-gas-stations-begin-to-shut-on-record-high-spot-prices.html

I'm sure the "Factcheckers" will get right on this one.

In the world of the partisan there only losers and their joy or disappointment is only a bi-product of their weak mind and weaker argument.

Here "people died - obama lied" this is for you..And Puullleeeezz Wake Up!! Romney and his lovemate EddiMunster aka Lyin'Ryan Are laughing at you Fool!!

Ishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og35U0d6WKY&feature=player_detailpage

According to the main stream media, this debate was supposed to be an easy victory for Obama. To accuse Romney the "day-after-the-debate" of being someone else on stage and also misspeaking facts is really poor character. Obama had the opportuntity to refute any facts that Romney spoke of; instead, he stood there, stumbled over his words, and was just a general embarrassment to his title and party. Obama can not speak without a teleprompter!

Thus you have Obama out on the road again today vomiting out more diatribe towards the Romney camp because you have "nothing" else on your record to speak about!

How embarrassing for the President!

Looks like softballs tossed by Letterman and Whoopi Goldberg and a complicit liberal media that never challenges you are not good preparation to debate with someone in posession of the facts. Despite the predictable left wing spin today, 58 million people watched yesterday and nothing Axelrod says can change their perceptions of the shellacking taken by Obama. He was never prepared for the job of president, yesterday he did not even look like he wants it anymore.

It is time for Obama to leave the confines of White House and take the fight to the enemy and a man who may be the next President. It is time for him to dispense with the fiction that a Black Man with passion is only... angry. It is time for him to dispense with the lie that being liked is somehow more desirable, elevated above and held in a higher regard by the American People then being perceived as strong. It is time for him to be more a President and leader then merely being presidential!

I learned fear last night! What we had, was a President who appeared to be not at all committed to a Second Term! This man had no fight, no passion and seemingly no plan-of-attack for his Party, the American people and yes... for me!
In my memory there has been no Republican candidate... so easy for the taking! Romney is a pathological panderer, serial flip flopper, ardent tax dodger and is so incapable of doing even the simplest of math that a 6 year old could bring him to task... throw in the Ryan Plan and it should have been a slaughter.

Does the President watch CNN, MSNBC, Current? Does he read Progressive blogs? Has he ever seen Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Mathews or Ed Schultz? Is he even remotely aware of all the proverbial ammunition, razor sharp facts, glaring contrasts, big truths and poison arrows he has at his behest?

His less then lackluster performance may have put us all on a path to a Corporatist Supreme Court, the end of the New Deal and the elimination of every last vestige of a Middle Class! What happened was historic and may have put our Nation on a path away from one that would have been to the betterment of us all and not just a very few.

Romney explained the role of a chief executive, how to lead .... still over your head? No biggie ... it's over Obama's head too.

He most certainly did not get into specifics and did nothing but rant on ideological BS. He never explained where he's getting all the cash for what he plans to do. He just says he'll work with Congress on what to cut as an excuse.

Mitt will wave the magic wand and all will be cured and Americans will be singing in the streets in perfect harmony, blah, blah, blah...

Mitt did nothing, said nothing and I learned nothing new from him.

Energized Obama tries to rebound after Wednesday's debate

Gee Barak, what happened after the debate? We know it was your anniversary, but that much energy to go around telling everyone that you felt you won?

I know... he finally got his teleprompter back... someone else is speaking through him. That's exactly where he's most comfortable.

I wonder if Obama will write an executive order before the next debate allowing teleprompters on stage during presidential debates....

When one partisan calls another a liar or fool it is the height of hypocrisy.

Jeff-1592116

Listen up nimrods. Mitt won the debate. No arguments there. BUT he didn't get specific and in the end STILL has no explanation for all the things he says he'll do.

LOL.

We've been waiting for 4 years for Barry to explain $h--!

Hopey changey = Debt, unemployment, no economy, no job growth, illegal lawbreakers granted green cards, & 2 credit rating declines.

I think it's Obama who NEEDS TO EXPLAIN.

Listen, I will be voting for Obama no matter what....

lol, some sheeple just don't get it! The real Obama has been exposed as incompetent -despite the love he gets from the old liberal media... Yet facts and truth are ignored because welfare checks for the cheats may be threatened by a Romney administration. And I think, that once elected, Mitt Romney will also look into that 47% of Americans who could, but don't pay any taxes at all!

Go Mitt! ...and aren't we excited to see how sleepy Joe will fare against Paul Ryan in their debates? Woohoo!!!!

That's fine and good in front of 12,000 people who already support the President that might get one minute of video on the news. You need your "A" game for the 3 national debates.

Be loud and energized when everyone can see you for two hours of uninterrupted debate against your challenger.

The President did not do well last night. But, there are 2 more debates and the President most of us know will be there for those. I love the fact that 12,000 showed up for him today.

What does Romney consider a crowd again - 1,000?

Honest people who actually have a clue know Romney did nothing but lie last night. That will come out.

Plus, just give him a few days - he'll do something else stupid - just wait and see. Old Mitt just can't help himself!

Obama/Biden 2012

After last nights failure by Obama and all some of you guys have to banter on about are age-old teleprompter jokes, really? :D

I got to admit you'll all fail if that's what you are thinking is important. :)

People Died Obama Lied,

"Mitt Romney is a clear winner"

Which Mitt Romney would that be? I have to ask because Romney has been so many different people. I just want to know which one you are talking about. That's all.

And to be honest I wish I heard you got some sleep today. You look like you needed it last night.

bscol - I disagree, I think if you arent sure who you want to vote for - then absolutely listen to both candidates with as wide open of a mind as possible.

However, the only way you can truly be "undecided" at this point is if you havent been paying attention, researching the candidates positions and listening to what they've been saying for the past 18 months.

The divide between the two parties and their platforms is quite large...so figuring out which party "speaks" to you shouldnt be hard.

If neither speaks to you, and there appears to be quite a few "independents and moderates" who claim this to be true - START A 3RD PARTY.

A 3rd Party that takes the best of both political worlds and makes them work, would be a surefire bet - but lo and behold, it has yet to ever materialize. I think thats true, because ultimately, there's no real way to bridge the divide, to bring both halves of our nation together, and agree on 90% of what can be agreed on so long as that 10% is always going to break the deal.

SeekingSanity

The President did not do well last night. But, there are 2 more debates and the President most of us know will be there for those.

Can't wait to see Biden get his ass handed to him next.........

Mickey-1983943

People Died Obama Lied,

"Mitt Romney is a clear winner"

Which Mitt Romney would that be? I have to ask because Romney has been so many different people. I just want to know which one you are talking about. That's all.

We've been waiting 4 years to see who Obama is!

Apparently it's someone who enjoys watching the middle class line up for food stamps, welfare & unemployment checks while the 1% are still very damn well the 1%!!!

MikeD - "And I think, that once elected, Mitt Romney will also look into that 47% of Americans who could, but don't pay any taxes at all!"

I hope he does, because half of them will be republicans and when they realize THEY are paying more so that millioniares and billionaires can get a 20% tax cut on their capital gains, Mitt wont seem like the saviour anymore.

Too little too late bonehead.

Stronghorse - I'm sure it would have been better for the President if he actually had media outlets that question his policies instead of asking him "how were the women on The View?" questions.

Laker Steve - Can't wait to see Biden get his ass handed to him next......... Don't hold your breath! Oh wait! DO!

Obama/Biden 2012

watching the VP debate will bring comic relief with Biden at the helm. I'm hoping he makes a remark about wanting to declare war on Antartica. Emperor penguins are killing the fish off.

Which Mitt Romney would that be?

the one that well Won.

miked-332794

lol, some sheeple just don't get it! The real Obama has been exposed as incompetent -

I love it. You guys act like Romney won the election. It was one debate and guess what, Romney has 2 more and a month to f*ck up. And looking at the Romney trend, it is very likely that he will.

Enjoy your one debate because now Romney has to outdo himself and since he worked so hard on his zingers FOR MONTHS, he is freshly out of them.

Was this a Presidential debate? It sounded like two Dems going at it for the Dem nomination. How's Mitt going to spin his way back to the right after basically selling them out last night. For a year, he has been pandering to the Tea-baggers for votes only to tell them to "kiss his ass" with his flip to the center. Oh well, life is tough when you're an Etch-a-Sketch.....

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O&Joe 2012

Even when HE is unprepared Obama STILL has to blame someone else? Really? The excuse for Obama doing so badly last night was because the REAL Mitt Romney didn't show up? It couldn't be because Obama was not prepared? It couldn't be because he couldn't use a teleprompter? It couldn't be because it is his anniversary and was distracted? The reason is because the REAL Mitt Romney didn't show up?

I could at least have a SMALL level of respect for Obama if he simply said today to his supporters "I'm sorry - I thought I was prepared last night but found out I wasn't. I will work twice as hard to make sure I don't disappoint you again". At least if he did THAT he would show himself as humbled AND take responsibility.

But when this man has not taken responsibility for ANYTHING in his life, let alone any responsibilities for his failures over the last 4 years, why would anybody expect him to start now?

Missing Sanity said: Honest people who actually have a clue know Romney did nothing but lie last night. That will come out.

Come on Sanity, tell us where all the lies were... One condition: You have to back it up with a quote from FactCheck.org. They have to be certified lies, not your opinion.

I'm an Obama supporter 100%, but what I saw last night was embarrassing. Looking at the moderator and not the public (camera) was bad. Acting like you are taking notes, that didn't help you is bad. Letting Romney use faulty math. that just doesn't add up is bad. Letting Romney change his stands on several issues and flip-flop again without questioning why is really bad. Mr. President, you need to get some basic lessons in debate and forensic speaking before the next debate. You can do what we expect of you next time!

For Obama's sake I hope Ass-Kicking is covered under Obamacare.....

I thought of it more as Obama tying to drag his butt up and down the court showing how he could run and gun with Kobie and the Lakers.

He needed to slow the game down and play some ball control.

Make Kobie play his game, instead of playing Kobie's game.......

Jeff - He most certainly did not get into specifics and did nothing but rant on ideological BS. He never explained where he's getting all the cash for what he plans to do. He just says he'll work with Congress on what to cut as an excuse.

Obama talks about simple math, yet can't figure out that putting 23 million unemployed or underemployed back to work - PAYING TAXES - businesses making profits and expanding and _PAYING MORE TAXES ... creates revenue?

Gawd ... you guys are dense.

Enjoy your moment. Fact checkers will have you spewing anger shortly. That a man running for President can shift his positions so easily should concern everyone. That Romney shakes his etch-a-sketch so skillfully should make all of us wonder "Who is this guy?" Where does he stand on stimulating the economy? On creating jobs?

If you haven't noticed, the private sector is awash in investment capital, but are waiting for the middle class to spend more money. Romney has not addressed this issue.

As governor of Massachusetts, he ranked 43rd in job creation and last in growth of the median wage in his first 2.5 years there. He presided over the slowest jobs recovery in Massachusetts history all according to Sept 3, 2006 report from Mass. Budget and Policy Center, a nonpartisan policy analysis group. And they were not at full employment having lost 200,000 job in 2001.

Romney doesn't have a plan for America's future job growth. His Massachusetts plan didn't work either. Facts here are very inconvenient for Romney.

One Lie! From Fact Check, Stopping tax loopholes will account for about 1/10 of reducing the deficit by the $5,000,000,000,000 that Romney said he would cut and the loopholes were the only thing he sighted. Of course, he's going to give the military $2,000,000,000,000 that they haven't even asked for? I guess he is planning on starting another war like republicans have done three times and their names were bush! Why else give them so much? Watch out Iran and Syria the American Empire maybe coming after you!

One Lie! From Fact Check, Stopping tax loopholes will account for about 1/10 of reducing the deficit by the $5,000,000,000,000 that Romney said he would cut and the loopholes were the only thing he sighted. Of course, he's going to give the military $2,000,000,000,000 that they haven't even asked for? I guess he is planning on starting another war like republicans have done three times and their names were bush! Why else give them so much? Watch out Iran and Syria the American Empire maybe coming after you!

Ray in Jax,

"Romney needed to do well, and he did, only because he came in as a brand new candidate."

And because Romney would not shut the hell up even when his time had run out! I was a bit disappointed with Jim Lehrer, even though I normally admire him, because he lost control of the debate. He should have told Romney to shut up and sit down. Instead, he just let him yammer on.

The problem with debates is this, when republicans or democrats make promises or policy statements they are lying. They keep the lies simple so their devoted followers are not confused and can easily spread them with the conviction kindergartner as for the most part that is their intellectual capacity. Today we have candidate A who has been in power for 3.5 years and has for the most part not lived up to expectations, candidate B is promising blue skies and drastic improvement much like candidate A did in the last election. Candidate A says he needs more time as it proved to be harder than he thought and the other guys stopped him from being the whirling dervish he really is and moreover the lackluster defense of his policies was a fluke. Topping it all off the comments here, I now the status quo will survive. I would say there has been a lot of brainwashing but alas there is no brain to wash.

Listen, I will be voting for Obama no matter what....

And this is why debates, tax returns, birth certificates and college transcripts don't mean a thing. Nothing that one side or the other says or produces will change who you vote for. Because you listen and see with blinders on.

And because Romney would not shut the hell up even when his time had run out!

So why did Obama have more speaking time? was that a GOP lie/conspiracy? You guys and your endless excuses.

shaak: If you haven't noticed, the private sector is awash in investment capital, but are waiting for the middle class to spend more money. Romney has not addressed this issue.

Wow! Waiting for the middle class to spend more money?

Would that be the middle class that has lost 38% of its wealth since Obama has been in office .... the middle class that has seen its median income drop $4,000 since Obama has been in office .... the middle class that is suffering record long term unemployment ....

Wow .... how detached from reality can libs be?

Mickey-1983943

Ray in Jax,

"Romney needed to do well, and he did, only because he came in as a brand new candidate."

And because Romney would not shut the hell up even when his time had run out!

Obama had more talk time than Romney......

Fact check it.

Caesar Auguste,

"So why did Obama have more speaking time? was that a GOP lie/conspiracy?"

Probably!

SeekingSanity said:

Laker Steve - Can't wait to see Biden get his ass handed to him next......... Don't hold your breath! Oh wait! DO!

Obama/Biden 2012

I'm holding on to this one... It will be fun to throw it back into your face as Mighty Joe Dumb flames out!

Energized Obama fights back after lackluster debate

Isn't that kinda like getting knocked out in a boxing match and then when you come to you try kicking the crap out of the nurse who's trying to bandage your head in the ER?

Mickey-1983943

Caesar Auguste,

"So why did Obama have more speaking time? was that a GOP lie/conspiracy?"

Probably!

LOL. Seriously....I think everyone would be better off if you would have been born your avatar.

Last night was a loud mouthed liar going against a professor. The liar made points by grandstanding and then threw them all away by contradicting himself time and again. The speed freak speed of his talking was an attempt to cover up the lies.

Rmoney said he worked with Democrats in Massachusetts. Oh really? Why did some 770 of his vetoes get overridden????

Obama the professor was too polite to the school yard bully. That was his only mistake.

Laker Steve,

"LOL. Seriously....I think everyone would be better off if you would have been born your avatar."

Now, now. Mind you Code of Honor! I haven't attacked you. But I am happy to see you like my avatar. I drew it myself. It's a real work of art, no?

Gee Barak, what happened after the debate?

He huddled with his puppeteers and now he has all the right answers.

Obama 2012 - "Boy, next time I'll be ready for that guy, that's for sure"

"Isn't that kinda like getting knocked out in a boxing match and then when you come to you try kicking the crap out of the nurse who's trying to bandage your head in the ER?"

I think it's more like being 4th and 5 when you're 6 minutes into the 5th quarter of a losing football game.......you find that the other team went home 10 minutes ago and you still have to punt.

'Nuff said, President Obama was far too passive. But perhaps Romney has just awoken the 'sleeping giant' and will have nothing to complain about if he receives a merciless public thrashing in the last two debates. Just saying.

Obama lost the debate. But the American public lost because there was nothing specific said. Mostly by Mitt but even Obama didn't get too particular when asked.

Holy cow, an honest comment, free of vitriol and name calling. Too bad the cynic in me believes it won't last.

JFK said, “Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"

OBAMA said, “Ask not what you can do for your country – ask what your country can do for you”

The contrast clear. In fact, it is BLACK and WHITE!

No question about it, Obama is not a great debater. However; any of us who have been to a high school debate know that the winner isn't always correct - they just did a better job of getting their point across. The reality is that much of what M.T. Suit said was presented well, but factually wrong or is out of synch with what he's been giving as his official position on taxes, health care, and education. So, Obama is now going to play to his strength of digging into the (meager, but heretofore never mentioned) details that his opponent shared. We'll see how this plays out - hopefully we'll all be enlightened

Take away Obama’s teleprompter and his campaign of LIES and DISTORTION crumbles like a cracker!

JFK would roll over in his grave if he could see what Obama has done to the once proud Democratic party and to America!

STOP OBAMA NOW!!!

What bothered me about the debate was not that they seem too similar to define, but that the President spent a minute on his wife at the beginning.

Yes, we all know you have a wife. Yes, most believe she would have made a better president. Sorry, he lost me in the first minute when you consider the problems we face and the direction he went. It was almost a poor pity me moment, personalizing that he actually has a wife. Many of us do, and they can't find jobs either.

ClearVoice2,

"The contrast clear. In fact, it is BLACK and WHITE!"

Now that's a racist comment if I ever heard one, although you may think you are being subtle!

I cannot wait til the election. Obama will win and you @!$%#ing fools will be wondering how. What did Romney win exactly. It sounded like he is for a Medicare voucher plan to me. He also lied a quite a bit about his positions. Or maybe he just flopped back. He will still not pick up anyone that was not voting for him in the first place. This just in---- everyone in this country already knows who they will vote for.

What a turd! Just like a bully that picks the wrong fight, gets his ass kicked, and then starts mouthing off at a distance. And this guy is out president? Jeesh!

Mickey-1983943

Caesar Auguste,

"So why did Obama have more speaking time? was that a GOP lie/conspiracy?"

Probably!

yeah hows that tinfoil then? get a discount with Reynolds for Bulk? So Mickey-1983943 I take it you didnt watch the debates? I watched on cnn so yeah they kept track. Oh well, you found bliss in ignorance, do enjoy.

Robiscoole, If Obama wins it will be because he dragged every poor and ethnic person to the polls to vote. Wait, that's how he won the first election!

So now Obama gets fired up...wow....but last night he could not face Romney. I guess it is hard when someone contradicts you. This must mean Obama knows his arguments are weak because they cannot stand up to challenge. Obama does better when no one is there to challenge him. Not Good.

I wish I believed all of the BS Obooboo throws out. Then I wouldn't be so scared @!$%#less of the guy.

Maybe if President Obama actually held press conferences over the last few years he might be able to take pointy questions. Heck, Lehrer didn't ask hard questions- he asked position questions. That makes sense too- take example the recent murder of our Libyan Ambassador. Romney came out saying that it was a diplorable act of terrorism against the US. President Obama said that Romney spoke out too soon, said it wasn't terrorism, then changed his story numerous times. Therefore he couldn't take a position eventhough there was ample evidence that terrorism was the cause (Libyan officials, State Dept. memos, the Ambassador's statements, the Seal's being there to get weapons back, etc.).

Node- Funny thing (if you watched the debat or the networks following), all they could talk about was how Romney did a good job at pointing out the facts, the fact checkers were more supportive of Romney than the President, and the only fault they could find regarding the presentation was that President Obama actually got 4 extra minutes of comment time during the debate.

Jessica,

#1.19

Unless of course, you're going to admit that democrats care more about America than they do themselves, and therefore, wont make that proclaimation and WILL work with the republican president as they have always done.

That is funny Jessica. You mean like the way that the Demo had all of congress for two years plus the president but still did nothing for the American people. Oh yes that I a great leader he could not even pull the Demo to help him for the first two years even most of them said NO to him until he started buying them. How quickly we like to forget facts and make up fiction kind of like Obama last night right.

Obama better not take the poor and the minorities for granted. They can smell a cutter. They can smell a Newt Gingrich under the Obama skin.

Example: Obama wants to cut payments to doctors and hospitals in Medicare. Romney retorted that that would cause half the doctors to not take Medicare patients anymore. So, Obama is CUTTING seniors. Watch the fine print.

Yeah all those "ethnic" people..But then I'm ethnically a white anglo-saxon upper middle class male over 60 years old who voted for him. That's ethnic I guess.

What a country!

Jessica-1170252

Of course, Mitt admitted that he offshores work - by stating that he must not have had the right accountant all these years.

The President said we need to close a loophole that gives a tax break to businesses for moving a job overseas. That's a narrow way to look at it. ANY business is allowed a tax break for expenses related to moving a job, anywhere, no matter if it's in this country or another. The President was implying that businesses are getting this break BECAUSE they are shipping it overseas, and is simply false. Look it up. Mitt Romney said if there was a tax break to ship a job overseas then he needed a new accountant. I don't recall ever hearing Romney say he hasn't moved a job overseas. Do you not consider Obama sending money to Brazil so they can drill off their shores, sending jobs overseas? He's sending our tax money to another nation which will be used for jobs, their jobs. They both have done it, what's your point?

I really would love to know, how is it, when Obama changes his stance, he is "evolving", yet, if Mitt changes his stance ever so slightly, he is a flat our liar? Some of you folks really need to get your heads evaluated.

Yea, Joe, Ny. He got 4 minutes of extra time to say absolutely nothing!

You know, all this talk today about Obama being unprepared because he has important things to do, such as being POTUS is hilarious.

I'm just thinking, what else could prepare you more for a debate than actually being president for nearly four years. It's what you do. It's your full time job to be informed on all of the topics which will come up in debates. Somehow, he's not. Seems he hasn't been paying attention to the country these past years. Maybe too many golf outings, too many family vacations, too many appearances on talk shows, being adored by the liberal media and darling fans.

So libs, got any more excuses as to why the sitting president isn't up to snuff on the issues of leading this country? I really wanna know.

Vote NoBama!

The President had Mittens by the short hairs and he let him off the hook.

Maybe the president, like the media, does not realize Romney is one of the 47% he has chastised for not paying federal income tax. Romney, himself said he has been unemployed since resigning as CEO of Bain Capital and putting his holdings in a blind trust in 1999. That means all, or most all of Romney's income since 1999 has been taxed at the lower rate capital gains, not income tax, Romney is unemployed and has paid no federal income tax in almost 13 years...........Don't that beat all ?

To see Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 2 (the "no mas" fight), I went to a harness track where they were broadcasting the closed circuit telecast for free, with a couple of touts from work. I

had never been to the "trotters" before, but I laid down my bet and we watched the horses and their drivers go around the track. My horse was in the lead, so when they came past us, I stood up and cheered my "victory".

Someone near me tapped me on the shoulder, saying softly "Sit down, they go around again"...

A month and two more debates to go.

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Fournier is saying to the electorate what that guy said to me back then...

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/5-reasons-why-it-s-too-early-to-write-off-obama-20121004

Wow, you conservatives/Republicans are a mean, angry bunch.

You have proven that you are only about winning, that you are not concerned with facts or feasability, that you have no compassion. Your candidate proved that himself last night.

Brianb1956 - I don't have time to play stupid games with you so I'll just post the BIG lie Mitt told over and over again that idiots somehow are ignoring (sorry - that would be you!)

From Fact Check:

ROMNEY: Let me repeat what I said, I'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. That's not my plan. My plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit.

What is Romney's plan?

He has proposed making the Bush tax cuts permanent for all income levels -- then cutting all rates by an additional 20 percent. He would also repeal the alternative minimum tax and permanently repeal the estate tax.

The non-partisan Tax Policy Center concluded that Romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over 10 years.

Brianb - might want to wipe that egg off your face!

Obama/Biden 2012

Here's a question for you:

Obama said:

“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”.

-Barak Hussein Obama

“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”

-Barak Hussein Obama

Which Obama are you voting for? The one who made these promises, or the one who did the exact opposite?

Mickey-1983943

ClearVoice2,

"The contrast clear. In fact, it is BLACK and WHITE!"

Now that's a racist comment if I ever heard one, although you may think you are being subtle!

No, it is not a racist comment. The phrase black and white is a common and an ages old way of indicating opposites. In the color spectrum black is the absence of color, and white is the combination of all colors equally and all at once. I hope I explained that correctly to satisfy the more scientific members of the crowd here.

Anyway, the point is, is that YOU are the racist for even trying to bring the race card into the discussion. It's all you think about, isn't it. You yearn for every chance to twist and distort someone else's words and attempt to portray them as racist. All for your party's political gain. It's old, worn out, and doesn't work here anymore. Give it up. Get better. Learn to identify true racism and go after that instead.

Apparently our President lives in a world of fantasy. He met the real Romney in the debate and not the Romney of his dreams. But where is the real fiscally conservative Obama of four years ago? Where is the Obama who said:

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead,interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans–a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

~ Senator B. H. Obama, March 2006

Liberals always do bad in debates. They play more to emotion than to facts. Debates are about facts. Liberals always loose when it comes to facts and concrete ideas. If you want a president that makes you feel better then vote for Obama. If you want a president that has succeeded in business and thinks you and America can also then vote for Romney.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. And he is our POTUS.

to me, the President won the debate, regardless of what you say,

bscol - no I believe the villiage idiot is you - and you just proved it!

Obama/Biden 2012

Pigotry

to me, the President won the debate, regardless of what you say,

then you can argue with MSNBC, CNN, ABC and everyother outlet. they seem to think Obama didnt fair to well. Im glad the talking point finally came out today that Lerher lost control and Mitt bullied.

Still further proof that Obama doesnt know what he is doing and is weak with leadership. so thanks for acknowledging what a lot of us already know

“When I got on stage, I met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be Mitt Romney,”

And that really disoriented you, eh Barack? You and your cronies have been maliciously demonizing this very decent man, and when you came face-to-face with him you were surprised to realize that your slander hadn't affected him one bit and then you couldn't even look at him in the eye. Barack, you realized that Mitt Romney is a tremendously much better man than you, that's what disoriented you.

Last night but fired up today ... this is the perfect metaphor for the last 4 years we got 23 million people out of work ... we have another 360,000 people losing their job every week ... we have 280,000 new workers entering the work force every month yet Obama Economic plan is to create only 100,000 per month when 450,000 jobs per month is needed just to not fall any further behind and then saying I'll really fix the Economy next 4 years.

I am very sorry but removing 8 million people from the unemployment count because you say they're not looking hard enough for work just doesn't cut it. We are really at 11.5% unemployment. Talk about a 47% comment. Dick Morris who worked for President Clinton for almost 20 years says Obama is an absolute failure and resisted all efforts to turn him to the center like President Clinton. Obama continues to press his Marxist Progressive Liberal Communist Economic Theories which aren't even supported by a majority in the Democratic Party. In fact Morris says Democrats says it's like watching someone commit suicide with a bomb but you're sitting right next to him.

It looks like Obama showed what I have known for a while, he is not a great leader. This election should have been a slam dunk for for anyone going against him. Yet it is not. Why? What have the Republicans offered. Nothing but the same as they have for many years. Cut taxes, deregulate, cut Govt etc etc. We have been cutting taxes and deregulating since the 80's when Reagan was president. If those things worked why are we in the spot we are in now? First cut the its Obama's fault crap. The economy crashed before he took office. All those tax cuts from the past are still in place, where are all the jobs, the trickle down? Bank CEO's collected bonuses and the average worker collected pink slips. How can that be defended. "Trickle down" is an excellent theory in a perfect world, but this is not a perfect world. Greed is the problem and I dont see Republicans coming out with any answers to fix it but just keep cutting and dumping needed revenue down the rabbit hole.

Obama won in my eyes...

He spoke more words.

He spoke truth.

He kept his cool.

He didn't interrupt.

He was respectful.

He acted Presidential.

He kept on topic.

He was original.

What kind of debate gives the Lying, obnoxious, rude, disrespectful, loud mouth phonie wanna be the win?

SeekingSanity

bscol - no I believe the villiage idiot is you - and you just proved it

good comeback Seeking. So tell me why Romney was lousy last night and Obama was stellar? or are you just gutter sniping per usual?

Uh, David uh Axelrod uh must have uh been uh Obama's uh speech coach. After watching Morning Joe today, David Axelrod could not answer any question on why Obama sucked so bad last night. After counting how many times Axelrod said uh in a 10 minute interview, I was assured he coached Obama last night. So how many uh's in a 10 minute interview. 98!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Your ATM,

"No, it is not a racist comment."

I would just like to know why you feel compelled to defend a comment that was made by ClearVoice2. Could it be a guilty conscience that drives you to it?

Jessica,

so, uh, how will Mitt Romney work with Democrats, if Democrats pull a republican move and declare "our mission is to make Mitt Romney a 1 term president"?

Real leaders find ways to get things done. If it were me, I would have meetings with the leaders in the House and Senate every week and if they refused to cooperate I would start having the meetings televised. Want to watch a Senator or Representative change their tune real fast? Make them justify their worth to the American people in real time.

every intelligent being in the world that watched the debate last night knows that Romney won. not even in bizzaro world could anyone think that Obama was the winner.

bscol - unfortunately, it appears that there are an awful lot of people who are permanent residents of that world......

Norquist told party activists back in February, the true direction of the GOP is being mapped out by congressional hardliners. All the Republicans need to realize their vision, he said, is a president "with enough working digits to handle a pen."

Romney has now adopted every letter of the Ryan agenda. Take it from Ed Gillespie, senior adviser to the campaign: "If the Ryan budget had come to his desk as president," Gillespie said of Romney, "he would have signed it, of course."

"Ryan takes out the ax and goes after programs for the poor – which is the last thing you ought to cut," says David Stockman, who served as Ronald Reagan's
budget director. "It's ideology run amok."

Republicans in Congress have repeatedly put ideology before creating jobs. For more than a year, they've refused to put President Obama's jobs bill up for a vote, even though projections show it would create nearly 2 million jobs without adding a penny to the deficit.

In addition, the Republicans' signature initiative last year – the debt-ceiling
standoff – was a jobs-killer, applying the brakes to the economic recovery.
From February through April 2011, the economy had been adding 200,000 jobs a month. But during the uncertainty created by the congressional impasse, job
creation was cut in half for every month the standoff‑continued. And according
to the Economic Policy Institute, the immediate spending cuts required by the
debt-ceiling compromise are likely to shrink the economy by $43 billion this
year, killing nearly 323,000 jobs.

What Ryan markets as his "Path toProsperity" would make things even worse: The draconian cuts in his latestbudget, according to the EPI, would put an additional drag on the economy, destroying another 4.1 million jobs by 2014.

Last year, the House passed a bill that would broadly
prohibit women from purchasing insurance plans that cover abortion. The
so-called Protect Life Act would also allow hospitals to refuse a dying woman
an abortion that would save her life. Ryan himself co-sponsored legislation
that would have made it impossible for impoverished victims of rape and incest
to receive abortions unless their assault met a narrow definition of
"forcible rape." Under the bill's language, for instance, federal
abortion coverage would be denied to a 12-year-old girl impregnated by a
40-year-old man, unless she could prove she fought back.

B.O. 12, right on, the media is so left wing its calling this a win for Romney. Oh wait a minute I haven't heard anything from the right about media fairness. Its a right wing plot to make Romney look like a regular guy. Did anybody notice his tan last night? Hold your nose and vote for Romney, I am going to hold my head up high and do the right thing. Give Obama 4 more years with a congress that will work with him.

bscol,

"every intelligent being in the world that watched the debate last night knows that Romney won. not even in bizzaro world could anyone think that Obama was the winner."

Yes, but there is a big difference between winning a debate and winning an election, and Romney has not won the election yet. We won't know who won for over a month still.

Romney is like a Snake Oil Salesman, a Pathological Liar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give Obama 4 more years with a congress that will work with him.

sounds like you want a One party system. Well give me a president that will work with a divided congress for the betterment of the nation.

President Obama was so respectful that he rarely looked at Romney, he looked down a lot, he interupted lerher too (hey he had 5 seconds member).

He wanted to change topic

He did not speak the truth

He was not original (please tell me how he did)

He didnt defend his policies.

He did speak more words but that amounts to what?

Excellent BO 2012 and John in BC glad you think he was outstanding, unfortunately for you, the majority to the left and right and center don't agree

What we just witnessed was 1 debate. You ever had a debate class? They teach delivery. They teach you how to gather facts. Then they teach you how to manipulate the facts towards your own preconceived end. And they teach you how to "disarm" your opponent.

What we saw last night was one lyin' ass debater against one tired President. But if you pick your winner on this one night, and you go for the "debate winner", you are the fool.

Don't get me wrong, debates are a blast. They are interesting... this one especially. And Romney won! But debates are NOT about the truth or what's right or anything close to these two values. Debates are about presentation and manipulation and surprise.

So I give the "lyin'-my-ass-off-while-looking-like-I'm-not" award to Romney.... I'll give him that.

People Died Obama Lied

No comparison as to a real leader. Mitt Romney is a clear winner. He totally shocked BO...and really how can you defend failure? Romney needs to keep this type of take charge theme....

Yep, he sure shocked President Obama...and the American People. In fact, I'm not sure he didn't set a record: 27 lies in 38 minutes. No that's something the Republican Party can be proud of.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/

By the way, did anyone else notice the Ronald Reagan impersonation?

Mickey-1983943

Not Your ATM,

"No, it is not a racist comment."

I would just like to know why you feel compelled to defend a comment that was made by ClearVoice2. Could it be a guilty conscience that drives you to it?

I felt compelled to defend the comment made by ClearVoice2 because, and only because, you made an idiotic attack on his or her words. You showed yourself for what you are, a liberal looking for racism in all the wrong places. As usual. Too bad for you that you can't look in the mirror and see yourself for what you are. And you are a racist troll. Anything else you would like to ask?

I'm sorry, I guess Romney is just planning to FIRE BIG BIRD.

But no tax cuts for the wealthy, right ????

Caesar Augustus-

Pigotry

to me, the President won the debate, regardless of what you say,

then you can argue with MSNBC, CNN, ABC and everyother outlet. they seem to think Obama didnt fair to well. Im glad the talking point finally came out today that Lerher lost control and Mitt bullied.

Still further proof that Obama doesnt know what he is doing and is weak with leadership. so thanks for acknowledging what a lot of us already know

I guess I'm old fashion in that to me, lying with conviction is not a win. But then, I'm not a Republican.

Al Gore has the best excuse yet for Obama. He was suffering from altitude sickness.

Anyone notice how sharp Obama was today in Denver? That's because he had his beloved teleprompters back.

You know what's weird. The people defending Obama refuse to consider the idea that Mitt is telling the truth and he (Obama) is not. I'm not telling people to change their minds, but at least try and think about the fact that maybe Romney might be right. Just something to think about anyways.

Let me tell you: if you thought that voting God out of the Democrat Party was wicked, wait till you hear this.

The Tea Party reported to you a few weeks ago that on March 16, 2012 Obama (America’s Fraud President) wrote and signed Executive Order 13603 naming it: “National Defense Resources Preparedness,” and while a few conservative media outlets wrote a handful of stories about this outrageous Executive Order, the interest died out.

The pieces of the Obama puzzle are falling into place and his sinister plan is emerging clearer than ever: Use of weapons of mass destruction on Americans!

Through Executive Order 13603 Obama gave himself the power to control all vital aspects of our beloved nation.

The more the Tea Party Research team digs, the more we discover about the execution of Obama’s America-killing plan as it unfolds—and it is HORRIBLE. Beyond the worst you can imagine.

Take a look at some of the sinister and menacing forces that will be put into motion. They are weapons of mass destruction!

Seizing of all forms of civil transportation

Do you realize what this means? Obama specially wrote “civil” NOT “public” transportation. In the name of a national emergency (which Obama has yet to define which, in turn, means he can define it any way he wants) he can grab ALL forms of transportation civilians use, including:

• Automobiles, trucks and delivery vehicles
• Boats and ships
• Your cars, your children’s cars and even grandma’s car
• City buses
• Trains
• Airplanes
• Motorcycles
• Bicycles
• Scooters, skateboards and wagons
• Horse and buggies
• Snowmobiles
• Tractors (Yes, some people drive to town on tractors)

A secret plan went into action right under our noses a few months ago—the very plan the Blame Stream Media deliberately hid from the American people.

Obama forgot to tell you that he can grab ALL FORMS OF CIVIL TRANSPORTATION, didn’t he? How convenient to keep the good citizens of America in the dark.

But it doesn’t stop there.

While other groups are asleep at the wheel and playing politics your Tea Party has been at work exposing the rat in the White House.

Obama doesn’t stop at just grabbing transportation but will grab the food out of your mouth. He will also grab”

All commodities and products capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals. In other words all food products, growing, picked and in store, including:

• Farm crops
• Inventory in grocery stores
• Grandmas garden vegetables
• Your canned goods
• Dog food and livestock feed
• Survival food cache
• Fish from fish farms
• Fruit from orchards

The lame stream media not only turned a blind eye to Obama’s evil deeds but has refused to comment on the Obama grab when presented with the facts! The Main Blame media is NOT your friend.

Ready for more?

Health resources, which include, but are not limited to: drugs, biological products, medical devices, materials, facilities, health supplies, services and equipment. This includes:

• Hospitals
• Vitamin stores
• Wheel chair suppliers
• Oxygen providers
• Drug stores
• First Aid supplies
• Red Cross
• Medical insurance companies

And the savage takeover of America doesn’t end there. Obama gives the power to government to take over…

All forms of energy:

• Solar energy farms
• Wind turbine projects
• Niagara Falls electric plant
• Your home generator
• Hydro-electric dams
• City power plants

All usable water from all sources:

• Mississippi River
• The Great Lakes
• Colorado River and all rivers
• All ponds
• All wells
• All water sheds
• All snow melts
• All bottled water companies

Yep, COMPLETE GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF IT ALL!!!! If this does not frighten you out of your wits, I don’t know what will.

The Tea Party Research Team is discovering more everyday about “America’s Fraud President.”

Sound impossible? If you don’t believe what we are saying then look up Executive Order 13603 yourself. I assure you this one thing: you will beshocked and frightened beyond anything you have ever known.

I can also tell you this: the Tea Party has been examining the Obama records from day one. Why? Because it has been proven time after time Obama is a liar and cheat. This is why he has earned the name “America’s Fraud President.”

He has lied to the American people about his college transcripts, his law license, his birth certificate and his master piece ObamaCare and ObamaTax.

If you have not seen it yet I strongly urge you to go see the documentary, 2016. You will be shocked and appalled at what you learn. You will be shocked at how Obama’s ideologies were formed and by what his true plan is for subverting our country.

I guarantee you that by the end of the film, the entire puzzle will come together and you will see why we have been screaming FRAUD all along.

The big picture will come completely into focus.

And, you will see that the Tea Party is gravely alarmed with very good reason—and understand why you should be, too.

Executive Order 13603 is another piece to the puzzle that brings together Obama’s evil master plan.

Click on the link below and follow the instructions. DO IT NOW!

It is good Obama is getting his Campaign Energized again.

He got slapped around by Romney. "O" should have kept his head up, and made direct eye contact---He has to take the next Debate (Town Meeting) seriously. No one knows until the end who will win, but it sure was one of the most interesting Debates in Decades.

What happened?

It is hard to debate a person who suddenly agrees with you on majority of the points and hails what you have already accomplished. Take wrestling for example. If your opponent raises his hand or pounds the floor to let you know he has had it, you stopped. What is there to do? Last night what Mr. Romney did was agree with Mr. Obama for most of the parts. In doing so he was running on Democratic agenda. But the damage was already done. His true believe is that 47% did not matter. 42% were cows to milk. He is in 1% who milks the cow.

In 1998 a group of Americans traveling in South America had an incident in which the bus they were traveling in almost went over the cliff. Ingenues as they were, some left the bus to tie it to the nearest trees and at the same time pull it from the near cliff where it was stuck. The few that were in the bus provided the traction needed near the back of the bus.

That sort of physics (true representation of economics) reminds of the economics situation in 2008~2012. The people who were out of the bus unemployed, the people in the bus the employed, the bus conductor the president. Before everyone was on the bus (employed) things just did not look right but the tragedy of going over the cliff (economic disaster) was avoided.

As semi liberal I think I am, yet I buy mostly US made tools and machinery. If none available, I buy British or German. Not because I dislike China, but there is a limit how much business I wish to give them at the expense of US and European manufacturers. Are you that selective to help fellow American Businesses? If not, do not complain about Jobs.

I find it ironic that Obama and the Democrats are talking about the 'other' Romney that showed up in the debate yesterday.

Obama's entire strategy from day 1 was to change voters' perception of Romney on a personal level. The Democrats continually and aggressively attacked Romney, trying to paint the perception of Romney being un-relatable, old, white and rich, who doesn't care about anyone but other Wall St. types. They went after his financial status, his family...anything to make Romney look like that evil rich Republican.

The funny thing is, no one, on a national level, knew much about the real Romney. When he shows up for the debate where, for perhaps the first time the majority of Americans get to see him unfiltered and unedited by the media, Romney seems to be a decent, caring guy. In the space of 90 minutes, Romney completed shed the perception of himself that Obama and the Democrats have worked so tirelessly to create.

This fact is more threatening to Obama's campaign strategy than most realize. Let's be honest, most Americans are too uneducated to really understand tax policy. Likeability and relatability matter more than anything else.

This is why Obama is quick to talk about the '2 different Romneys'. As if he's trying to rescue the campaign strategy.

It's kind of pathetic in my opinion.

Let's make this about the

Mitt is going to cure the countries deficit by turning off pbs and extending the Bush tax cuts that put us here.

Seriously are you people that dense.

“When I got on stage, I met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be Mitt Romney,” he said. “But it couldn’t have been Mitt Romney, because the real Mitt Romney has been running around the country for the year, promising $5 trillion dollars in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. The fellow on stage last night didn’t seem to know anything about that.”

You've had 4 years and things are clearly a mess. We are sick of hearing you bash George Bush and Mitt Romney. You are the President of the United States, for crying out loud. Just tell us why we should give YOU four more years.

obama is a joke!

Did President Obama have a bad night? Yes. Is he a bad debater? Yes. Did Mitt Romney beat him last night? Without a doubt. Will this matter much? Probably not. All of you Obama haters can laugh it up now, because you will be the ones crying on election night. Even though he lost last night he will STILL win on November 6, and he will STILL go down in history as one of the BEST Presidents we the United States has ever had. We are lucky to have had this great man keep us from sliding into the Second Great Depression caused by W and the Repugs! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!! HILLARY 2016!!!!

Hey what did Flip Flop Romney read off of during the RNC? A teleprompter!!!!! Yes HYPOCRITES who blast on the telepromter thing. Tax cheat Romney used one. LOL

Obama 2012

Romney 1040

It's obvious that President Obama was surprised last night, as was I. Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up. He has been a poet, from the beginning, telling everybody what they want to hear, except what the hell his plan is. I still think he's fudging it, and getting the best BS style advice. He's winging it, and learning as fast as he can, as he goes. So there, again makes me wonder why he wants this job. Status? Ego? He's just not really in tune.

Mr Axelrod, speaking on a campaign conference call, made an appeal to reporters to make the points that Obama himself had failed to make in the debate

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212961/Presidential-debate-2012-Mitt-Romney-celebrates-Obama-aide-admits-defeat.html#ixzz28MwXqbcc

I see First Read is following their marching orders from the Obama campaign.

Read the First Read story above and then click on the link above to see what Axlerod told to reporters today and you will see PROOF that First Read is part of the Obama campaign!

Bob

You obviously don't get it. It's a Catch 22. Your right in that middle class cannot increase spending until they earn more money. The rich won't invest until sales are up and they need to expand their operations.

It's a stalemate. Romney does not ever address how the middle class can earn more money to stimulate sales. And the rich won't invest until their sales go up.

Stalemate breaker, Catch 22 ender is our government's use of stimulus spending.

Eventually, you will catch on to the principles of Keynesian economics. If only Mitt could too.

What a coward. Why didn't he say this last night. Obama put his head down and looked like he was on Xanax or something goofy. I almost think someone was talking in his ear because he would look down then smile then nod his head horizontally then vertically, then a little laugh, WHAT THE H? He looked physically bad. Now this morning he is all guns, sorry, debate passed while you were in another planet.

Hey teapublicans --- don't get too excited. Romney has made one misstep after another, day after day, for the last 3 months. So last night he finally got a hit. Even the pitcher gets a few hits over 162 games. But that doesn't make him the batting champion.

The reality is if President Obama wins Colorado (and he's leading now) he has the election won. Romney on the other hand has to just run the table in every swing state to win. That could happen but don't bet much on it.

An energized Obama? Oh, you mean that after he got punked last night he's starting to take this guy seriously? Man, he got a good ole' fashion ass whoopin' last night. Unprepared and looked like a deer in headlights, bumbling through his BS, it was comical to watch him embarrass himself.

Just goes to show you without a tele-prompter Obama ain't worth the toilet paper that was stuck to the bottom of his shoe last night!

TO: jerry l-1335133 who wrote:

"Jeff, You cannot funnel money when the budget you propose gets zero votes and when the Democrats in the Senate cannot come up with a budget in 3 years."

Republicans didn't have a "budget" let alone a "balanced budget" at no time during the entire 8 years Republicans had the White House, and for some 4 concurrent years also held the House, and NO Republican gave a hoot while Republicans rubberstamped one foolish spending bill after another, AND another!

AND Mitt Robme isn't planning on balancing it either!!! Oh right, he promised he'd do so on the last day, of his second term. What B.S.!

In fact, the last time we had a balanced budget was when Democrat Bill Clinton balanced.

I consider all this "balanced budget" B.S. to nothing more than false outrage.

Republicans to this very day support Republicans' collapse of the entire United States Economy and do but call for more of the same things that brought us down in the first place, still convince that if the do the same things, the same way, they'll come up with a different result.

That's no doubt why millionaires and billionaires are asking for THEIR tax cuts FIRST, cause they know Republican idiots are ruff and ready to screw everything up again!

Obama/Biden 2012

Getmadstaymad

Let me tell you: if you thought that voting God out of the Democrat Party was wicked, wait till you hear this.

Well of course Getmad...he's the antichrist and we're his army...and we're coming for you...

First we'll take your guns and bibles. Then well force your daughters to take birth control pills. Finally we'll drag you straight to hell with meat hooks and force you to smoke a turd...

Take your damn meds!

I see First Read is following their marching orders from the Obama campaign.

Axelrod (asking reporters to go after Romney) -'All of you who travel on the road with Governor Romney know that he just few weeks ago stood up and said we didn't need any more teachers,' he said. 'Last night he couldn't be more enthusiastic about teachers and more teachers.'

First Read - Last night, Romney said his plans to trim the deficit wouldn’t mean teacher cuts: “I reject the idea that I don’t believe in great teachers or more teachers. Every school district, every state should make that decision on their own.”

Romney had the final word on the matter last night, but today Obama told his supporters: “The real Mitt Romney said we don’t need anymore teachers in our classrooms ... But the fellow on stage last night, he loves teachers, can’t get enough of them.”

Axelrod (speaking with reporters) - speaking on a campaign conference call, made an appeal to reporters to make the points that Obama himself had failed to make in the debate

First Read - Last night, Obama also missed an opportunity to highlight his opponent’s personal tax records after Gov. Romney said, “I’ve been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you’re talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant ... but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is simply not the case."

Today, Mr. Obama fired off this retort: “We know for sure it was not the real Mitt Romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant.”

FIRST READ YOU HAVE BEEN BUSTED!!!!!!!! Nothing but an arm of the Obama Chicago Machine!!!

All the righies are gloating because Romney has pulled his campaign out of the toilet.

He accomplished that by lying...aren't you proud? Romney's campaign stinks worse than ever.

Just an observation: I don't recall ever hearing any Romney supporters at a rally shouting "We love you!"

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Energized Obama? Of course, he's got his teleprompter and no one to contradict him. Now the media and the Obamabots are doing doubletime doublespeak to attempt to spin and twist the butt kicking he got last night. If it wasn't for the media propping him up and blind devotion, the man would fade away into nothing.

Not Your ATM,

"You showed yourself for what you are, a liberal looking for racism in all the wrong places."

And you showed yourself for what you are: a right-winger defending a fellow right-winger who is probably a racist. And you also showed that you are incapable of recognizing innuendo when you see it.

It doesn't matter who won the debate last night. What I saw was someone lying to the camera to get himself elected. Romo was rude to both the president and the moderator on several occasions. His math is fuzzy at best and thats being kind...but go ahead and vote against your own interests and elect him...then see where Americas at in four years...if your still alive.

GetMadStayMad - what a blithering idiot you are. You really need to check SNOPES before you typea single word.

Bet you see little green men,too, right????

Obama/Biden 2012

Did Fiesty call in sick?

That's because he had his teleprompter

Actually he was back on slick Willie's lap.

Can anyone say "mercy killing"?

Last night Obama acted a trifle....high. Stoned even.

I guess I'm old fashion in that to me, lying with conviction is not a win.

Thats fine, I can agree with that. Problem is if Obama won, you'd claim O was sincere and truthful. You'd be cheating yourself though.

But then, I'm not a Republican.

good for you, but I do love how lefties or what have you try to paint the GOP or anybody not on the Obama hearse as unfeeling, uncaring, lying brutes. Yes because the DNC has a lock on caring and tolerance. Just look at all they done for the povetry stricken, gays, blacks, latinos and every other 'group' over the past decades.

Tonight when the debate comes on turn the TV off and spend time with your friends or family. As these two actors "debate" each other I will be contemplating which independent I will be voting for. I will no longer vote for a candidate that supports war when our country is crumbling from the inside.

Romney:

- Middle class average income is $250K.

- Students, that can't afford college tuition, should borrow money from their parents (because their parent's earn $250K a year).

- Repeal Obamacare and replace it with the Emergency Room.

- Reduce taxes by 20% while eliminating deductions and exemptions--personal and dependent exemptions, state and local tax credit, mortgage interest credit, educational expense credit, medical expense credit, child care credit, earned income credit. After all of this you'd wish that he simply raised taxes and left the credits alone--less painful.

- 47% of Americans are leeches of society that can't take responsibility for their lives.

- If you're 59 or younger, you get a voucher for Medicare and good luck with the market and inflation.

- The 47% that live off the government will be given jobs--all you 75 and older men and women who don't pay income tax will have to get a job! You disabled people, whether or not you have limbs, will have to get jobs! All you active duty military in combat zones, that don't pay income tax, will have to get jobs!

- If you have capital gains, dividend or large estate income, your tax will go to zero. And you must create jobs, just like you have in the past 12 years.

- All you companies stocking up on toxic chemicals, you will be free to dispose of that nasty stuff as you see fit -- The useless EPA will be eliminated.

- All you companies currently restricted from emitting CO2, will be free from any such restriction -- you will be expected to create more jobs

- All food and Drug companies will be free to manufacture and dispense anything they produce. The FDA will be eliminated.

- We will keep only qualified teachers and they will be able to teach classes of 100 students or more.

- Will eliminate the dept. of education and thereby improve our young people's education levels -- Home schooling forever!!

- We will eliminate unnecessary police, fire and other government workers. If you get robbed, your house catches on fire, or expect any government service--tough it out!!

I am Romney and I am for the Middle Class -- Vote for me and believe in my motto:

“ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT HOW YOUR COUNTRY CAN STICK IT TO YOU!”

Sorry, confused3012211, but it's actually more like this from Obama: "Ask not what you can do for your country, but how much free stuff we can get you taking the fruit of the middle class hard work away from them while saddling your children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren with debt slavery to the Chinese."

No amount of late lame jokes about Big Bird are going to make that any more funny.

It's absolutely hillarious watching Obama whining about Romney not being authentic or being real. This coming from the man who never tells the truth about who he really is, what he really believes, and what he is trying to do to this country. ROTFLMAO!!!

- 47% of Americans are leeches of society that can't take responsibility for their lives.

You guys should be angry at the liberal media for putting this crap into your heads. He never called them leeches, moochers, or any other fabricated name they want you to regergitate. He said that they would not vote for him. Why? Because it serves their purpose to raise taxes on others when you dont have any skin in the game...there is nothing to lose on their part. They only have something to gain by benefiting from government programs funded by those that do pay federal income tax.

Node4

No question about it, Obama is not a great debater.

Wouldn't have known that because Obama beat McCain in their debates. Wouldn't have known that by the way Obama supporters on the Vine promoted him as a lock on winning.

Early on when the subject came up, I warned these supporters what Romney would do. You cannot win on people of truth with half truths. Did you not notice that for months Romney was not vehemently denying the Obama 5 Trillion in tax cuts? He waited until Prime time to cram it back in his face. I heard Obama was out again saying the same thing. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

Did Fiesty call in sick?

No, Kornfed. Just an emergency visit to the doctor to have the meds upped.

Last night you saw the real Obama. Let's face it, when Obama doesn't have is crowds to draw from, or his talking points to read from he's lost and confused. Come on, rebutting debate comments the day after? And with the same old tired b.s. propaganda that didn't even work the night before? Really? That's the best you can do?

I wonder what excuses MSLSD will dream up for his next beat down?

Jeff-1592116

I don't know if I'd announce to the world that I was still going to vote for the loser, but hey for now and if we get rid of Obama it is still a free country. Obama did not have opportunity to go after Romney for two reasons:

1. Obama has done no good but only harm to our country.

2. Romney was telling the truth and called Obama on every lie he told.

Tough to win a debate with someone who tells it like it is and won't let you lie. Of couse Obama was fired up this morning. He was preaching to his choir of lemmings ready and willing to follow him off the cliff. Last night his smirk said "hey we'll stack the votes and use Chicago tactics to steal this election anyway" Well not so fast buddy, every American who wants to save his or her country will be out to vote so the legal votes out number the illegal fraud votes even though you have disenfranchised the very military that fights and dies to keep this country free. Maybe that is why you are screwing them over so bad.

Everybody knows that the hero gets knocked around in the first round but (Rocky Balboa) comes back and wins the match in the end!

confused-3012211

You certainly are confused, the famous John Kennedy line was, "Ask NOT what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." But then as an Obama supporter I guess you would say the reverse. Like that gal on youtube who is going to vote for Obama cause she don't have to pay her mortage and he gave her free phones. Some class to be proud to be part of.

I love Romney's measure, "If it isn't worth borrowing money from the Chinese to do, we won't do it!" How simply common sense. I should remember that not all will appreciate it since as one of my professors once told me "it should be called uncommon sense, since most people don't have it." When it comes to Obama supporters he was definitely correct!

I love Romney's measure, "If it isn't worth borrowing money from the Chinese to do, we won't do it!"

You love that etch-a-sketch statement? Where are the Republicans going to get the money for war (possibly with Iran even) and the extended military budget? I guess that is worthy of borrowing from China but the American people are not. Oh that's right, Grandma will get Medicare vouchers..

Romney is not for the middle class and if a couple sound bites in a debate make you think otherwise you are delusional.

Poisoning the well.

Exposed for being inadequate is a difficult experience.

I'll keep this short and employ the President's strategy. When you are debating a fool spouting one outrageous lie after another, give him the stage so everybody recognizes the fool. Thanks to many of you for accommodating that same strategy on this forum.

It was the Altitude. LOL nice one Al-Gore. Thanks for helping the dems look stupid. LOL

Looking through the above comments, I'm relieved to see that other Americans besides me are concerned about what has gone wrong with Obama's lucidity. Someone above said that Obama didn't look healthy. Somebody else said that Obama looked weird, as if he was on psychiatric medication. I've been deeply concerned about the mental health of the current President of the United States, particularly after the bizarre denial by the Obama administration that the tragic and violent assassination of the American ambassador in Libya was anything other than a reaction to one of the several ridiculous videos on Youtube which are anti-Islam, and the flippant attitude he expressed when he appeared on The View and called himself "eye candy", while refusing to address urgent concerns about the attainment of nuclear destructive capability by a rogue government in Iran. I think that the American public is entitled to current information about the mental health of the President of the United States.

John Doe-2241225

It was the Altitude. LOL nice one Al-Gore. Thanks for helping the dems look stupid. LOL

I just saw that and I thought it was a spoof or something. That ranks right up there with some of the Chris Mathew classics!

Reading all of the moronic obama fellatio junkies makes me sad. This is the most divisive president in history. Short of specifics? How about a whole campaign run around "Hope". Give me a fnn break. There are two philosophies in play, Romney's, "I'll bring you up" and The Messiah's "I'll bring them down to your level". I take the former.

So Robme is going to cut $5 Trillion in taxes and balance the budget by firing Big Bird? PBS accounts for 0.012% of the national budget. As always republions are no good at math.

People were surprised by the sheer number of lies spouted by Ayn Ryan at their convention, but it appears Robme did his level best to set a new record for lies. He told 27 lies in 38 minutes. One of them was that he worked with Democrats when he was governor of Massachusetts. The only problem with that lie is that 770 of his vetoes were overridden........Some leader.

Then he lied again about not knowing about the tax cuts corporations get for exporting American jobs. Bain was a pioneer in exporting American jobs. And it is true that the Democrats tried to repeal that law twice and were blocked by the republicons twice.

Vote for America! O and Joe 2012.

Well well well, what do you know.....no sign of that Fiesty Redhead or Bev in Chicago here today. Hahahaha

Obama just never quits lying, does he? Incredible.

Check out this doctor's summary of Obamacare in one sentence. Hilarious, but sadly it's true. It's gone viral with over two million hits so far. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw

Al Gore says that Obama was the victim of the high altitude, and he was the Democrat nominee for president which is pretty scary. Pundits are saying that Obama was caught off guard, that he never expected such a strong offense. Very telling when Obama isn't prepared to defend his actions over the past four years simply because for the first time he is ask too. Funny how we have nothing but excuses and blame for Obama failing, again. Romney on the other hand apologized for his 47% comment, he says it was wrong, and you can bet he will expound on that apology. Sort of refreshing to see a politician who is willing to admit to his mistakes, instead of always making excuses or blaming someone else.

The best line I've heard was from a commentator last night who said this: "The liberal media pundits are having meltdowns over this debate. We've had more meltdowns than a birthday party at Chuck-E-Cheese."

All of these people who are criticizing Romney for being unreasonable with regards to his plans to solve America's problems so easily...where were you 4 years ago, when Obama promised everything in order to get elected (and ultimately delivered nothing)?

Romney's taking a page out of Obama's playbook. Funny how quickly perception changes..

Fact is, both the Republican and Democrat parties are too extreme in their views right now to solve anything.

Pretty sloppy rebound work.

And what do you suppose is the biggest news out of last night's debate?

Big Bird. Evidently he's about to be fired too. It's all over the internets.

haha

Excuses are awesome

I couldn't agree with you more Pat. I recently sent in my second $50 donation to the Obama campaign. I am 50 years old and this is the first time I have donated to any politician's campaign. I feel strongly that Obama is as right for the country and the times as Romney is dead wrong.

Just dumb Pat

Pat,

I agree when our embassy was attacked the President had a crisis what did he do? He left Washington and flew to Las Vegas for a fundraiser. I know all Presidents do fundraisers but he is double anybody else.

Joe, no excuses. The GOP have no business getting back the White House. Go and take a look at all the lies the Romney camp admits they told last night.

Oh. And go and see what John Sununu said about President Obama. This is the party Mitt belongs to.

There is no way President Obama will ever become as unhinged as today's GOP are. No way. He isn't about animosity. Mitt and the rest of the GOP is. It's the only card they have.

Romney last night - unlikeable. And it's going to stick. Deservedly so.

I agree I thought he did fine. He did not act like a child getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar like mittens did. He kept his cool, where as mittens was rude, interrupting Jim and demanding his full 2 minutes and more. "I don't know what you are talking about!" and he kept on mentioning the same things over and over again, I felt like I had accidentally hit the rewind button on the TV. No matter what the question was, same answers. I too, once again, am donating to Obama's campaign. I want a man in charge of our country, not a trigger happy, confrontational, I'm always right kind of person. VOTE OBAMA!

jerry, President Obama didn't attend a fundraiser.

What has Romney been doing all these years?

Nothing. Except prepping for the presidency. LoL.

Romney hasn't had a job in 5 years? Which has allowed him to prep?? What a bunch of garbage. Obama has been president for 4 years and is still clueless. Plus, Obama hasn't produced anything positive his entire life. Whereas Romney has created 1000's of jobs and turned around dozens of private sector companies, which by the way, provide jobs. Obama hasn't delivered on any promises, China has cut us off, thank goodness and our embassies are burning while Obama parties like a rock star. And you continue to support him. Amazing. I would say he's Jimmy Carter 2.0, but that's an insult to Mr. Carter.

Big Bird. Evidently he's about to be fired too. It's all over the internets

Attacking Big Bird and PBS/Jim Lehrer (sp)......Willard got a real kick out of that...back to his "I like to fire people"!

Gee, Pat is a lib from Boston. Big shocker. And your avitar is BO and his wife, the elegant magazine cover first lady? We need to vote them out because I'm so sick of seeing her mug on every magazine cover. Hopefully the Hollywood elite couple will be packing their bags for Chicago after Nov 6th.

R/R 2012

• And Obama has not had a JOB.........ever.

Anyone see today's Gallup? hmm

Lloyd, well that's a good reason to vote for Romney. Magazine cover.

ABBO ------------Any body but Obama. It's time the president to quit his so called leadership of this country and let someone else handle the country's leadership. He demonstrated that with his poor performance last night. By the way, he's been practicing just as much as Romney, but without the teleprompter he's as inarticulate as a mime.

Pat Boston MA.

Joe, no excuses. The GOP have no business getting back the White House. Go and take a look at all the lies the Romney camp admits they told last night.

LOL. Romney isn't President. Yet.

Look at all the lies Barry has been telling for FOUR YEARS!

WITH EVIDENCE no less!

Big Bird............I have a message for you..........you're FIRED..............I do like to fire people and now fictional characters too............Wow this President stuff is fun..........Now let fire some useless teachers and regulators

Sorry Pat he left on September 12th

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

September 11, 2012

DAILY GUIDANCE AND PRESS SCHEDULE FOR

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2012

In the morning, the President will receive the Presidential Daily Briefing in the Oval Office. This meeting is closed press.

In the afternoon, the President will depart the White House en route Las Vegas, Nevada. The departure from the South Lawn and the arrival at McCarran International Airport are open press.

NC62553

........Now let fire some useless teachers and regulators

Obama's already got that covered, dude.

I was really struck by one line from Romney last night. He said, in rebuttal to the President; "He's right". Our heart is where we put our money". Romneys heart then, has to be in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland.

It is so refreshing to the libs on their backs today like a turtle just flailing about until someone knocks them upright again.

I'm not an Obama supporter at all but it was actually uncomfortable just watching Obama sink like he was in quicksand...

I bet there is shortage of tissues in the stores today as the libs need them to wipe their tears...

Pat Boston MA.

Well, everyone I talked with this morning sent a donation to President Obama last night. Their message - bad night but we have your back Mr. President. Everyone is fired up and absolutely support this man 100%.

Pat- I guess you are considered on of those that no matter what happens you will still vote for Obama. I'm glad you have his back and he has your money.

I can not see why people are so blinded by another human. Romney is human too and who knows he might loose the next one.

I feel sorry for you. and that is all.

Pat, you are a true UnAmerican. You live in a state where then Gov Romney created a fantastic healthcare plan/model that was hijacked by the Dems, which incidently is all that 0bama has to show for in 4 years, and got the education level to #1 in the nation, and yet you bash the creator. Your lack of gratitude is sickening. Romney gave Barry and his Orangutan an excellent anniversary present last night!

All hail to the next President of the USA! Mitt Romney!! A great leader!

Romney/Ryan2012

Oh Pat you are funny. You do realize that this nation can not survive another 4 years of creeping socialism/marxism? You cry that Romney hasn't worked in 5 years. What private sector job has Nobama or his friends ever had? I trust a businessman over a community agitator to get the economy going. Take a look into Nobama when he was an agitator in Chicago and how he got a housing project shut down so his friends (such as Valerie Jarrett) could make millions of developing the property. Here I thought he helped the poor and downtrodden....no he helps his friends make money. One more idea.....Nobama bitched about how much oil companies got subsidized but he failed to mention how General Electric PAID NO TAXES AND ARE MOVING PARTS OF COMPANY TO CHINA. And to see the CEO of General Electric is an advisor to Nobama...go figure.

Its amazing.... the Big O could murder someone on stage and STILL you'd all make excuses for him.... He blew it last night because he had no answers thats it in a nutshell.

As president.... I would think that he should be the MOST prepped person in the country since most of the topics were on what the Big O is doing and saying....

Pat, Boston, well said.

President Obama did fine, not great. Romney was not great either, he was good. For the last week or more the media and the GOP has been hyping the debate, telling people that Mitt Romney MUST provide specific, details yet the Media and the GOP spinners oddly ignore that Romney did not do what they said he must--his answers lacks specificity, lacked detail and were denials of his own proposed plans. Mitt lied repeatedly yet he is the big winner because he was more animated.

unoitall, Ga from RI's posts are prime examples of sick, hateful thinking. Disgusting.

Hey mac Forrester I quote you----

"I was really struck by one line from Romney last night. He said, in rebuttal to the President; "He's right". Our heart is where we put our money". Romneys heart then, has to be in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland."

You should look into the money Bill and Hillary Clinton have in the Cayman Islands...and Pelosi in Switzerland...oh I forgot....its alright if your a PROGRESSACRAP!

jimmy in philly - I guess in your uneducated mind being an attorney isn't a job. Or being a constitutional law professor at a prestigious university isn't a job. Or being a state senator isn't a job.

Typical Republican!

Obama/Biden 2012

Wow. Have you guys seen the crowds today for President Obama? Wow.

Daman, we can't afford the GOP any longer. They just want tax cuts for the rich and we the people will have to pay for them. That's not cool.

I am a democrat. I vote democrat because I feel the GOP is screwing us all and have been for 30 years.

I am confident that President Obama is by far a better choice than Romney. Romney changes his stances every single GD day.

President Obama will not lose my support or my vote. I'm neither wishy washy or undecided. He's my choice, through good times and tough times.

I'm not one to throw our president under the bus, particularly when our future is at stake. That's what republicans do. They neither support nor respect anyone. And because of that, they will never ever receive my vote.

That's not socialism. That's just human decency.

So now we're back to calling me "Unamerican"? LoL.

You go ahead and support Romney. Vote for him. You deserve each other.

Or being a constitutional law professor at a prestigious university isn't a job

its not. sorry. Hey seeking nice of you to join the fray. How did the DDI meeting go? you guys come up with a stategy to avert from the realities of life? You left Feisty hanging. Dont make Feisty pointman, just uncool. Do you think Biden will ask any parapalegics to stand up? Well Biden has three letters for ya, J O B S.

jerry l, you do realize yesterday was Oct 3 not September 12?

Obama looked like he was a puppy that just got caught wetting the carpet and Romney was scolding him. This is the difference between Socialist ideology and the "real world". Romney understands business and what it takes to grow an economy. Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand.

The great Milton Friedman said it best when he said "If you put the government in control of the Sahara Desert within 5 years there would be a shortage of sand". Big government doesn't work. Never has and never will.

Only the PRIVATE sector can grow the economy - and Romney understands the private sector. Obama has NEVER had a job in the private sector - and after four failed years it shows...........

You should have taken your money, walked into your bathroom and flushed it down the toilet.

Fact checkers are having a field day with Romney. Will the real Romney please stand up?

You can win debates by changing your position when your opponent attacks what he thinks your position is. However, the following days are important too, as the fact checkers do their job, as people review Romney's shifting positions.

I believe people want someone whose judgment they can trust. Romney's shifting positions may win debates, but they do not inspire confidence in his ability to lead. Upon reflection and review, I think the assessment of Romney's debate performance will be downgraded quite a bit (kinda like those mortgage securities).

Pat, What we saw last night was a desperate man out to show the world how big a bully he can be. I suppose that's why they call it the "bully pulpit". Mitt gave us nothing, last night, but more lies.

As long as the GOP refuses to do anything the middle class will suffer.

We need to vote every GOP incumbent out of office this November!

SeekingSanity

jimmy in philly - I guess in your uneducated mind being an attorney isn't a job. Or being a constitutional law professor at a prestigious university isn't a job. Or being a state senator isn't a job.

SS - you are right these are all jobs that he did not do well in. His second year as a professor he lost half of his students. As an attorney he deffended crooked landlords as a senator well he was always late and voted present most of the time, and as a president, well we know.

Clint was right when he did the empty chair and teleprompter but I think as of last night we should change that to an empty podium and a missing teleprompter.

How can you still Idolize this guy so much. I don't like Romney remarks about Big Bird and I hear he tied him to the roof of his car. But them I heard that Obama ate Big Bird last night.

These are mere men and they both have flaws.

Lie number 1 by the serial liar. "I will work with Democrats."

In Massachusetts he did not work with Democrats. In over 800 vetoes over 700 were overruled by the Democrats.

Based on an independently-obtained list of veto override votes, that out of more than 800 budget line-item vetoes during Romney’s four years as governor, 707 were overridden. A separate Factcheck.org post put the exact number of Romney’s vetoes at 844 – and noted that “more than 700” were overridden.

Maybe the President was smart last night by letting romney ramble on so much. The President now has some sound bites that he can use against romney has changed his position on so many things. Check out "romney told 27 Myths in Thirty Eight minutes"...

Pat Boston,

Romney hasn't held a job in about 5 years. He has nothing else to do but prep.

Obama has had a job the past 4 years. He has nothing else to do but golf and fund raise. Oh, and take fabulous trips with Michelle and the kids.

What a shocker. Someone from Boston throwing good money after bad. LOL!

Jody,

I said that when our embassy was attacked on Sept. 11 the President left for a fundraiser and Pat said no, so I was showing that he left the day after

Max, President Obama had Osama bin Laden killed. Romney is going to have Big Bird killed. That's what people are talking about all over the internets. Too too funny.

Also, saw this tweet over at the Obama Diary:

Tweet: Not confirmed yet but I want you to hear it: killers of US Amb. Chris Stevens are said to be detained at Istanbul Airport.

And this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lynn-parramore/why-the-pundits-are-wrong_b_1939137.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

Last night I placed a five-dollar bill into a bowl at the start of the debate, clipped to a prediction that Romney would be declared the winner. Not especially because I think that Romney is a better debater, or that I feared Obama would make some horrible gaffe - but because that's how The Script has to go in these cases.

Obama did what anybody paying close attention would have known he would do. He played it safe. And he stuck to a rather dull rhetorical style because - he has a rather dull rhetorical style. Also because that's what you do when you're the frontrunner. You don't say or do anything wild and crazy. You let your opponent jump up and down and make excitable noises. Which is precisely what Romney did. Some have read Romney's stance as aggressive, others as pushy, but there's one word that you're unlikely to hear: "presidential." Makes for good theatrics. But it won't win you the White House.

So why did the President keep on the gloves? Obama did not jump on Romney's 47%-of-Americans-are-Losers comment because his campaign had already done a handy job with that, and there was no need to drive home the point and appear undignified. He could have pummeled Romney on various economic policy points, and he did this once or twice, such as his questions about the details of Romney's tax plan. But mostly he just looked bored. That can be read as, "Jeez, look at what I have to put up with!" That's 100% Obama. And yet frantic media accounts suggest that pundits expected to see a gladiator emerge from his staid persona.

In a race that appears to have a frontrunner, media types have an incentive to tighten things up, and this, of course, whips up public opinion. But it won't amount to a hill of beans in the long run. I predict that the needle will wobble slightly, no more (Early poll show Romney up a measly point). The real loser of last night's debate was the American public, which was not properly informed and frequently lied to.

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Now the last thing we need is President Obama behaving like Republicans. Particularly behaving like Mitt.

He didn't. Thank goodness.

jerry, I wasn't disputing where President Obama went. What I was disputing was your statement that he went to a fundraiser. I don't believe he attended a fundraiser.

I'm only going from memory, but I don't believe he attended a fundraiser.

Beyond the obvious moral decay accelerated at an exponential rate by this president, the economic damage he has done lays in wait like an iceberg on a dark ocean night. Ninety percent of risk is lurking below the surface and remains invisible to those consumed by a"fast food style decision making process" and short sound bites of single issue constituency rhetoric!

Obama induced debt (deficit spending) acts like a cancer on our nation and American society. Cancer grows and cannot be contained without serious and often invasive treatment. The cure itself poses serious side effects. We can look to Greece as a sort of microcosm of what Obama is doing to America with what may go down in history as the "most reckless fiscal policy in the history of the industrialized world".

China and others have warned America and the world about the inherent risk in Obama policies, but it appears it will take yet another credit downgrade and perhaps a complete economic collapse for some Americans to wake up to the "harsh and frightening reality" of America's future should Obama be reelected!

STOP OBAMA NOW!

Fact checkers are having a field day with Obama, as well.

Obama campaign is back attacking Romney. Axelrod, claiming that Romney is deceptive and dishonest. New ad coming out called Trust.

If we can’t trust him here [in TV debates] … how could we ever trust him here?” says the ad, showing a picture of the Oval Office.

Axelrod is also calling on the media to put pressure on Romney.

I would love to see a commercial with both of them side by side lying to the American people.

I admit, it does appear Romney likes to fire people. Right there on national TV he told Jim Lehr, "You're fired!" and told Big Bird to start packing his bags.

Well, he told us months ago during the GOP debates that he liked to fire people. I guess he does.

Obama/Biden 2012

“The approach that Governor Romney’s talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003, and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years, we ended up moving from surplus to deficits, and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.”

— Obama

Here, the president comes close to repeating a line that just this week earned him Three Pinocchios. In a new television ad, Obama said that tax cuts and deregulation led to the crisis. But in the debate he broadened his language, bringing in the impact of the Bush tax cuts on the deficit and not directly linking the policies (“it all culminated” versus “led to”) to the financial crash.

With such careful pruning and adjusting of language, a politician can easily shed one or two Pinocchios.

But another part of Obama’s statement is misleading. There’s no doubt that George W. Bush owns an unimpressive record on job creation. But as we have previously demonstrated, Obama comes in either last, second-to-last or in the bottom half among presidents since the Great Depression, depending on which way you look at the numbers.

Washington Post -Fact Checker

Pat from Boston, or is that you David Axelrod?

What in the last 4 years has the President done to prompt you to not only support him with your vote, but send money? Seriously. I never understood this adoration mentality, and what, you're on first name basis with the MSNBC cheerleaders? Go easy on Rachel, Ed and Chris; WHY?! They are shills, and you are a puppet.

Somebody needs to check Obama's ass for Pat Boston MA.'s tongue.

Pat, Thanks for the Parramore article.

Angie Aker with Move On also wrote today "During last night's presidential debate, Mitt Romney smirked his way through dozens of mischaracterizations, distortions, and outright lies. The moderator, Jim Lehrer, never cut him off. And now the mainstream media is saying that Mitt won the debate"...."He lied about his tax plan, his deficit plan, and Medicare. He lied about what "Obamacare" would do. He lied, baldly and convincingly, about Obama's entire presidency."

Mitt lies on top of his lies. As long as Mitt tells it over and over again people will start believing it. Sad, just really sad.

Really Max? That's EXACTLY how Obooboo got elected!

Pat- I really enjoyed your job comment. The funny thing is that the President can now be tied to his current job. He can be tied back to not meeting with a number of his appointed cabinet members. He can be tied back to not meeting with his economic committee when the economy is struggling. He can be tied to the White House log as meeting with Trumka and other friends hundreds of times. He can be tied to providing appointments(cabinet positions, committee appointments, ambassadorships, etc.) to his donors. He can be tied to all of those out of office trips around the country for the last two years to campaign for the job he already has. He can be tied to the lavish vacations with multiple Air Force 1 jets for his wife and kids leaving an hour before he did. He can be tied to all of those world leaders he didn't visit with when in the same city for the same events. He can be tied by records to repaying his donors 100-1000x for their donations by providing them with stimulus money and bailouts. I can keep going on and on based on the RECORDS, not conjecture.

I thought Romney hit it home when he mentioned that the President chose to give 50 years of tax incentives to Green Jobs (friends) instead of hiring teachers. Funny how when you hear something said a different way that you start to realize how much money we are talking about and what choices the President chose.

On those prestigious positions he's held in the past, you might want to read some on that too:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/03/to-be-lawyer-or-not-to-be.html

President Obama was never a professor, he was a lecturer. Some other fun too if you don't mind looking around and reading.

Joe NY - President Obama was offered tenure as a professor at UofC but declined because of his other obligations. His students still referred to him as professor. Officials at the Unversity said they would have been delighted had he accepted the offer of professor.

Try posting an actual site that isn't right wing junk if you want to be accurate. You could actually go the the UofC website and have facts - not the lies you post.

President Obama's classes were always filled and he had students on wait lists to get into his classes.

Our President has supported alternative energy yes and many of them have been donors. However, he has not gone to war to fill the pockets of Haliburton - like Bush and Cheney. Unfortunately when new technologies are being developed, some do not work. It's that simple.

Try going for the truth instead of your half-truths and downright lies. It will make you look at least a little believable - not much but a little!

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Wow, Pat good post as always, I think this might be the turning point of the race. It may have awakened the sleeping giant. The American democrat, to make sure and get out the vote. We also may see a step up in the scrutiny of Mr. Romney. We know he cannot withstand a close scrutiny. Things like what Newt Gingrich said about him in the primary. Don't think the Texas Governor was to kind at that point in time, his tax records. What is he hiding?

Also I think Obama needs to bring out his accomplishments, which are the accomplishments for the American people. The 47% that Mitt now loves. But on tape he was showing them only scorn. I will put my $5 bill in the bowl that Obama returns to the White house and accomplishes many more great things. Get out the vote.

Come on rightys, do you really want Romney to be our president? Understand arithmetic?

. It will make you look at least a little believable - not much but a little!

Right because Seeking you are never believable no matter how much you type it, no matter how hostile you come across. No matter what or how many names you call someone.

Pat Boston MA ... I'm with you and Obama, we need to burn this Country Down ... burn it all. Obama needs to take all the wealth and establish a true Government for the people and by the people ... I'm so sick of old people consuming all the wealth. Most consume about $250,000 the last few days of their life ... after say 70 years old, we should deny all medical procedures except pain management ... they need to step aside so others can step up ... Burn it all Down Obama we're right here with you ...

Obama's performance last night was just like his performance in his Job, he failed at both. He misunderstood the job in tailed, he thought it was just to party and act like a wannabe movie star he didn't think it actually meant he had to WORK!!!!!!

beel, 3% for those making over $250,000 a year. First 250 don't count. So a half a mill a year would cost those poor unfortunate $7500. You fools will wreck your country for a mere $7500 our of a half a mill. Sad. The country will burn if the poor get much poorer. Fat men do not riot.

Janie, how would you enjoy a forcible rape? Would you carry a baby to birth from that? Think girl, think what else you loose if the republican taliban have its way.

beelzebubb - you've clearly confused Mitt's plan with Obama's. See with Mitt's plan, once you get old, you should just go away and die. You have no right to get any benefits that might possibly even take a penny from the 1%. They simply won't have it.

See - easier to understand now?

Stupid JoeNY - the ignorant post of yours is truly telling. President Obama appointed no more donors to jobs than any other President. He has taken fewer "lavish" vacations than Bush did in the same amount of time - no matter than the Obama's - like all Prsident's - pay for their own expenses.

Your abject ignorance is only overshadowed by your eagerness to post it for all to see!

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Pat,

I agree when our embassy was attacked the President had a crisis what did he do? He left Washington and flew to Las Vegas for a fundraiser. I know all Presidents do fundraisers but he is double anybody else.

And when Hurricane Katrina was killing a hell of a lot more than 4 Americans where was GW...observing the majestic beauty of the El Pueblo Mirage RV and Golf Resort.

Why would I bring u GW? Because Romney has hired his advisers...if you liked Bush... you'll love Romney!

What exactly did everyone send Obama this morning? More Valium. He seemed stoned and out of it. It seriously looked like he either too a pill or someone was talking to him in his ear the way he would move his head and laugh looking down.

Sorry, but "everyone" is not supporting that poor excuse of a leader!

People are crying about how Romney lies.. you need to go back and recheck everything Obama said before he was elected .. oh surprise surprise.. lies lies lies

To all who thought that our president failed last night....I think you're all wrong. My opinion is that President Obama was merely observing what Romney was going to say so that he can hit him hard at the next debate. Sometimes it's wise to just be quiet and listen to your opponent....find out what he stands for, what he's going to say, and how he's going to perform. Next debate is going to be a bit different, I would think. President Obama has seen how the Mittster debates, and he now knows what the Mittster believes and will say.....now he can come back to him with the REAL facts!!! Sometimes you have to lose one to win a couple!!! Besides, Romney will NEVER remember what he said last night....he'll flip flop and conveniently forget his comments! You can certainly bet that President Obama won't forget what was said!!! He was being quiet for a reason!

I asked my conservative friends which Romney was going to show up last night -- the tea party Romney, the moderate Romney or the left wing Romney? Well -- the moderate to left wing Romney showed up. But I think his 1% buddies may be a little shocked because according to last night's Romney -- they won't be getting a tax cut.

In his complaint, Karger lays out a chronology of Romney's real estate moves since his failed presidential bid in 2008. According to Karger's timetable, Romney and his wife, Ann, bought a $12.5 million home in La Jolla, California, in May 2008. ("I wanted to be where I could hear the waves," Romney told the AP of his move to the West Coast.) Thereafter, Romney became a regular at California political events, even campaigning for Meg Whitman during her gubernatorial bid. A year later, in April 2009, the Romneys sold their home in Belmont, Massachusetts, for $3.5 million, and registered to vote from an address in the basement of an 8,000 square-foot Belmont manse owned by their son Tagg. But where the Romneys really lived these past couple of years seems to be a bit of a mystery. While Romney was appearing at so many California political events people were speculating he was going to run for office there, the National Journal reported in May 2009 that the Romneys had made their primary residence a $10 million estate in New Hampshire.

The discrepancies in the news coverage prompted Karger to take a closer look, in part because he found it dubious that a guy worth $500 million would really be living in his son's basement.

The President has no worries at all. Romney is an "empty suit" and has no plan at all. Oh he states that he's got this grand plan of massive tax breaks for everyone and cutting out loopholes for the wealthy and middle class? But what are the details of that plan?? He doesn't even know or probably more like won't tell because if he told the details of those plans he would lose the election instantly. Romney and Ryan are going to give Americans the biggest screwing they have ever seen - well maybe not their wealthy gop friends - but you and I. At least the President has layed out all the details to all the plans he has for the economy, health care and SS and all seem at least possible. But then you consider the gop/teabag majority controlling congress who delight with knowing they were the ones who caused at least 2/3 of the deficit and crashing the economy and joyously now get to blame our President. The problem is most rational thinking Americans see right through the gop scheme and they don't buy it. Does williard and the republicans think were going to buy that crap with all the flippety flopping flop mitty has been constantly doing???? Give us a break we're supposed to take your word for it and just trust you. You connies must be kidding, right. There is an old saying that "the devil is in the details" - so republicans, we want details and not the BS lip service your serving. The gop reply......crickets. President Obama has no worries at all....carry on.

Enough of the suppression bs. Its not unreasonable to require people to get FREE ID's to vote.

The sounds of desperation coming from the left. Excuses galore and blame and not one person willing to admit that the empty suit they so love is nothing but an empty suit. Take away his teleprompters, put him in a place where he has to answer some serious questions about HIS presidency and he falls flat.

The altitude, the anniversary, the bully Romney, the bad moderator, any and everything to make excuses for a failure. NOW he's energized? Of course, he doesn't have to defend his record or his policies, he can blather away about grannie and spiel homilies to an adoring crowd of braindead acolytes bussed in by the unions and he's fer sure energized...either that or they've changed his meds.

To be honest I was kinda embarrassed that Obama was the President as I watched him last night. He seemed so incompetent and to beat all arrogant. Way out if his league and comfort zone.

Well, the first polls are out and Obama is up 1% and Robme is up by 2%. Now that is a really big bump!

Historically, the incumbent has lost the 1st debate 6 out of 7 times. Clinton is the exception. The next debate? So far it is 3 to 3. The next one will be the tie breaker.

One can expect Obama to call Robme on his lies in that one. After all, Robme has a record of lying 71% of the time. What else can he do?

Miklkit: No REAL polls can come out that quick. Not sure what you were looking at but it wasn't a legitimate poll. It takes 3 to 5 business days to complete a poll from a reputable statistical polling company so that means no LEGITIMATE polls will come out until Wednesday or Thursday of next week. Asking your friends what THEY thought is not a legitimate poll.