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*** Thursday’s “Jansing & Co.” line-up: MSNBC’s Chris Jansing interviews Nicolas Kristof and Gillian Tett, Rep. Steve Israel, Artur Davis; Gov. George Pataki and Gov Ted Strickland; Brad Woodhouse and Sean Spicer.
*** Thursday’s “MSNBC Live with Thomas Roberts” line-up: MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts gets post-debate analysis from MSNBC host Ed Schultz, former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), MSNBC Contributor Ron Reagan and Daily Beast Columnist Meghan McCain. Washington Post Fact-Checker Glenn Kessler will truth-squad the debate. TheGrio.com’s Joy-Ann Reid, former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn and Republican Strategist John Brabender join the power panel.
*** Thursday’s “NOW with Alex Wagner” line-up: Alex Wagner’s guests include former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, Dan Rather, New York Times Magazine Editor Hugo Lindgren, Georgetown Prof. Michael Eric Dyson, Host of “Inside the Actors Studio” James Lipton, and TODAY Co-host Savannah Guthrie.
*** Thursday’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” line-up (live from Denver): NBC’s Andrea Mitchell interviews the Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza and Ruth Marcus, Romney campaign adviser John Sununu, Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO), Democratic strategist Tad Devine, Republican strategist John Feehery and Time’s Richard Stengel.
*** Thursday’s “News Nation with Tamron Hall” line-up: MSNBC’s Tamron Hall interviews MSNBC contributor Michael Smerconish, Democratic strategist Keith Boykin, the Washington Post’s Anne Kornblut, radio talk show host Steve Deace, the DNC’s Patrick Gaspard, and MSNBC Policy Analyst Ezra Klein.
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I watched the presidential debate on NBC last night, because I don't have cable. (I can only see MSNBC at the gym, a good incentive to work out, because I love watching Rachel Maddow.)
After the debate, while I was still digesting my impressions, I was shocked to hear David Gregory so quickly call it a gamechanger, and declaring Romney the winner.
How is it the political "journalists'" business to deliver a verdict before the viewers have had a chance to process what they have seen? Shortly after Gregory's comments, Savannah Guthrie started in, and I just turned the channel. Nothing against Guthrie, but how am I supposed to respect the opinion of a morning show cutie? What is she going to tell me about what I've just seem with my own eyes, that is going to contribute to my understanding? I surfed the channels for a bit, and heard some positive comments about Obama and criticism of Romney on other channels, but, over all, my feeling was "who gives a cr-- what these overpaid, overgroomed, media personalities think about the candidates?"
Before the debate, I saw an interview with Jim Lehrer on my local TV news show "207" where Lehrer said American journalism is currently in a crisis. I could not agree more. I just want to shout at the TV "shut up! shut up!" most of the time.
I really don't care for the opinions of the media personalities on broadcast news shows, and I do not trust the judgment of the news producers. This morning, I watched the CBS morning show, and Frank Luntz did a segment extolling the positive impact of Romney's perfomance. Neither Charlie Rose nor Norah O'Donnell (and I normally like both people) pointed out to viewers that this guy is a Republican pollster (it was eventually printed on the screen.) This was who they choose to "report" on the debate's impact - a Republican?
Last night, as I went to bed, I decided, it truly is time to break the TV watching habit. I know several people who no longer watch TV, or follow political news, because it is just that bad. Of course, no one is reading this post, no one at the networks gives a flying whoop what Amy, white female voter in Portland Maine thinks. But I'm telling the broadcast TV political analysts: you're fired.
I read your post, Amy and I so agree. I watched the debates on my local PBS station and I had a lot of other channels to pick from. I didn't want to hear the broadcaster's input last night.
My verdict on the debates? Romney did what he does best. He lied.
Amy wants spoon-fed left wing propaganda, 24/7, dammit !
PBS and/or MSNBC usually fits the bill as 24/7 leftist propaganda...but even they couldnt deny that Romney won that debate, hands down.
"This was who they choose to "report" on the debate's impact - a Republican?" Yet the mainstream media supposedly objective journalists are overloaded with Democrat liberals ...ABC news political Director George Steph, was a Dem operative with Clinton; Chuck Todd, worked for Democrats...shall we go on?
You said you were watching the debate right? You can't get an impression of how someone is doing as it is happening?
Bob in VA - and you just lapped up every Mitt lie - like we all knew you would. Funny thing, I believe Romney won last night. The President was not on and for the ignorant out there who will believe all the Romney lies, Mitt played direct to them.
My brothr in law - in VA - has been leaning Romney so I was really hesitant to talk with him after the debate. I called he and my sister. My sister is leaning Obama and last night did not change that. My brother in law got on the phone and I said "guess you are thrilled with Mitt." His answer stunned me.
He said Mitt came across as underhanded and deceptive. He's now leaning Obama. But, he is very smart so don't feel bad that you don't understand it yet, Bob.
Obama/Biden 2012
Amy, I have a very good idea of how you feel. My TV is seldom turned on except for 1 show each week. And thank goodness I am not in a state (like screwed up FL with voter suppression, etc.) where campaign commercials come on every single minute. I just wish there was some way to suppress the Media, TV News, campaigns, judgement calling, etc. I felt both performed poorly to include the monitor. Obama appeared tired and lacking in energy. Somebody needed to feed him a good strong cup of coffee. I'm not the least bit surprised though, since Obama is running 2 full time jobs (Oval Office & campaign trail) while Romney has not worked at a job since 2002. Now, he has the single task of just campaigning, and took off one week prior to the debate to rest up and practice for the debate. The same opportunity is not available to Obama, who is busy 24/7 tackling the Middle East crisis, and the economic woes here in the U.S. In spite of Obama's lack luster energy (which is unusual for him), I felt he came across more sincere and consistent with his ideas than did Romney, who did not answer the questions as requested. Possibly because he was way too argumentative with the monitor, and far too busy ignoring the rules set up for the debate. One thing for sure is that Romney can be relied upon for changing his ideas on the hour by the hour depending with whom he is speaking to for the sole purpose of gaining votes. It is very apparent that transparency and the truth are none existent in his life. It is a shame that this person is the best that the Republicans could dig up. Romney has yet to demonstrate the skills and character needed for a good President, much less even a satisfactory President. He is no different than Bush, who destroyed our economy with his non-transparent, gestapo ruling while favoring the 2% elite with one tax exemption after another that simply is not available to most people. Romney's past record, except for the MA healthcare, is the worst I've ever seen from a candidate. He simply comes across as a liar, a thief, and a total fraudster as demonstrated in last night's debate. But that's just my opinion of how he comes across.
It's all about money Amy. Not truth, not facts just money. Jim Lehrer is right, but the so called journalist don't care as long as they get paid and the network makes money.
Thanks, Mo, I guess Jon Stewart will be accepting the Pulitzer Prize for political journalism this year, because broadcast TV journalists have just given up delivering quality analysis.
I was talking to my co-worker just now and he agrees with me. He also registered the insult Romney directed at Obama early on, basically calling the President a "boy." I heard a gasp in the audience at that comment, but haven't heard any TV analysts comment on it.
"He also registered the insult Romney directed at Obama early on, basically calling the President a "boy." I heard a gasp in the audience at that comment, but haven't heard any TV analysts comment on it."
That is because you made it up. The only reference to "boys" was Romney's comment about how his 5 sons tell him things that arent true...trying to spin that as "racist" ? LOL..
From NPR:
If you can take some racist angle from that, then you are lost.
Last night, the gravy train was derailed. Feisty, get that CV out and start sending, your blogging days are coming to an end. Hint: I wouldn't apply over at PBS. I personally hope you find work in a coal mine.
Wow Amy, just wow. You should have watched the debate on MSNBC at the gym and then you could have seen how utterly disappointed that crew was at Obama and his performance. What I find strange is that last night was probably Obama's best performance...he's got nothing without his teleprompter. Right Bill Maher?
Oh cry me a spoon-fed river. You're interested in politics enough to not only watch the debate, but you're an MSNBC fan to boot. Yet you're distressed that a professional political commentator reaches a conclusion before you do?? ("political "journalists'" business to deliver a verdict before the viewers have had a chance to process what they have seen?"). Uh. Duh. It's their job. If they're quicker, better, faster, than you are, then don't whine about it.
In one graf you say you like Maddow, and then we hear how you hate commentators. You flip the channels looking for commentary--BUT--"who gives a cr-- what these overpaid, overgroomed, media personalities think about the candidates?" Am I the only one who smells a rat here???
"I really don't care for the opinions of the media personalities on broadcast news shows, and I do not trust the judgment of the news producers."......BUT you watch all the shows at the crack of dawn. Yea. That makes sense. Ain't buying it lady.
", basically calling the President a "boy." I heard a gasp in the audience at that comment, but haven't heard any TV analysts comment on it." Never happened.
If you want to comment--comment--but for the love of God, if a plant like you has to make stuff up just to see their name on the internet--pick a new hobby.
I am quite disappointed in the President's performance in the debate. He wasn't agressive enough. When Willard flipped again on Social Security and Medicare President Obama should have pulled a Reagan with "there you go again" or something. I hope Obama learned from this debate and doesn't repeat the poor performance next time.
Obama showed EXACTLY what he was last night. A FAILED President that was in over his head and could only repeat over and over the Democratic talking points that have no basis in FACT whatsoever.
Meanwhile Romney did NOT flip on anything, he just provided more detail than people like YOU wanted to hear, so YOU call it "flipping".
Obama was the "there you go again" person at the debate. Just repeating over and over and over how he FAILED and and calling it success.
Did anyone notice that Romney lost his tan and bronzer that he wore for the meeting with the Hispanic community. Mitt never looked whiter.
And your point on his color is what?
Disappointed in Obama ..... that was a fail ..... but still have 2 more debates ... he shoulda man mitt talk about the 47% .... wtf is up with that .... he just let it go .,.. wow .... soooo disappointed ..... like he let the air outta the balloon .... poof ..... where do we go from here .....
We go back to being the United States of America instead of the United States of Western Europe.
If you need our help to be our President, you must have the power to convince me too.
it is big risk to change the start way and presidential statement which was available to Convinced the power of nation's will like (yes we can) in 2008 to another personality issue approach
blablablablabla.. Your guy lost!!! he was EXPOSED!!! Romney has spoken the truth and you guys can't handle the truth.. It's time to get R.E.S.P.E.C.T. back to the United States. It's time to get the US back to work. VOTE FOR ROMNEY!!!!
Mitt Romney’s great healthcare plan…LIE.
Who is Jonathan Gruber…???
Jonathan Gruber, economics professor at MIT, was actually the designer of MA’s healthcare plan, not Mitt Romney.
Bigger lie…Actually Senator Kennedy was the muscle behind the MA healthcare plan, not Mitt Romney, and it could not have been achieved without his negotiations and influence.
But wait, it gets better…
… it was a government bailout. It was a result of Mitt Romney’s failed healthcare plan.
It was funded by your federal dollars., and is still being funded by your federal dollars, via subsidiaries.
The only reason MA has the healthcare plan that it does, is because MA’s healthcare was in dire straights, under Mitt Romney’s leadership.
Wait for it…
… it was paid for with 385 million dollars of federal money.
That’s right, your money.
Then they insured absolutely anyone they could find, with Medicare. Why…?
Because the federal dollars would match Medicare. That’s right, your money.
But wait, it gets even better…
Right now, federal Medicaid dollars continue to pay for both children and adults, for up to 300% of the poverty line in MA.
Have you figured it out yet…?
Yes, the entire State of Massachusetts is on FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE…!!!
Just speculating here…I wonder if the entire state of MA knows it falls in that 47% area…?
But this will never work for the rest of the country…
Here’s why…
He wants to provide insurance for the rest of the country another way.
He wants to cap the Medicaid dollars at whatever the state received last year, add 1%, and then let us on our own to fend for ourselves. Or in his own words “manage your poor the way you think best”.
You must understand people…that’s a cut to Medicaid to the tune of more than 600 billion dollars. This differs greatly from the generous deal that MA got.
He opposes giving money for healthcare at the federal level, and also refuses to give it at the state level.
That, on top of Romney’s reportable care act (Romney care) pushes Medicaid cuts to well above 1 trillion dollars.
Why is this important…?
It means that the rest of the states will not have the generous benefits that Massachusetts had.
This means that he will be “pulling up the ladder” so no other state can achieve healthcare the way MA has.
Under Romney’s plan, there is no way to achieve universal healthcare.
Indeed, if Medicare is cut, even the current healthcare plan in Massachusetts will not survive.
The only reason Massachusetts healthcare plan has continued to survive, is from a generous waiver, first from the Bush administration, and yes, wait for it…
…then from the Obama administration, for billions and billions of dollars.
Massachusetts…your own worst enemy…? Yes !
Mitt’s cut to Medicare will put the burden of healthcare solely on the state’s tax-payer dollars.
They can not afford that, and the healthcare plan will wither away.
Furthermore, the Romney care plan, will cut Medicaid by 700 billion dollars.
More facts…By the year 2022 ( only ten years down the road ), Obama care will have 33 million more people under health care coverage.
Romney care will have 18 million fewer Americans with health care coverage.
These are all facts contributed by Jonathan Gruber, the designer of Romney’s MA healthcare plan.
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