F6Z....maybe you are not paranoid, but when you casually throw around the word 'communism' as callously as you do, then people are immediately turned off by whatever you have to say. There are too many checks and balances in this country for one leader to ever turn us into a communist state. That is just a really stupid thing to say.

If Obama wins our only hope is that the Mayan calendar is correct and we go flying off the planet. If he wins and I was a millionaire, I'd be moving myself and my money to another country. I'm even considering moving to Costa Rica--I wouldn't have to worry about the Mexican drug cartel because they will be here enjoying the DREAM Act.

So if Obama wins, advocating the destruction of the planet??? Dramatic yes? Please take Rush Limbaugh w/you, he already promised to move.

As for R$mney... Let us know when your concession speech is ready. If you don't win Ohio, it's curtains.

Obama/Biden 2012.

F6Z....ok.....NOW I believe you are paranoid. That could easily be one of the most stupid statements I've ever seen on this vine.

F6Z....one other thing....Bill Clinton couldn't even get a blowjob from an intern without getting impeached. Do you really think this country would stand still for a leader taking that kind of stance?

F6Zman

Now Obama's EPA is making a 4 Gallon of Gas mandate!:http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/energy-a-environment/249857-epas-four-gallon-minimum-mandate

Amusing facts... Can you show me a BILL authorized by congress, voted on by congress, and signed into law by Obama? A BLOG? Really? No wonder we have to fact check the right at every turn.

P.S. Comparing Obama to Adolf Hitler?? That has to be the funniest thing I have ever read. I'd say Hitler is more like the GOP: "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike" - Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933.

F6Z....this country is not Nazi Germany, regardless of how some of you radicals view it. We would not sit idly by and let the U.S. become a dictatorship. Bill Clinton was only 12 years ago...the only thing that has changed dramatically since then is the division between the republican and democratic parties. The election in 2016 is going to make it incredibly easy for a really solid independent candidate to win. And...the GOP better get the hint after this one....they need to change their stance quite a bit if they want to stay in existence. To not be able to beat a sitting President that is so hated by so many says a lot.

Its about Time....I have seen more than one reference of Obama to Hitler on this vine. I tend to ignore those people, mostly because their hatred is being fueled by the propaganda spread by that fat a$$hole Limbaugh and the even more ignorant Hannity. These people believe whatever they read and then try to associate to the highest degree to put even more fear into the mindless. Obama may not be the best president ever, but he succeeded the worst president ever and has done a decent job. And, by far, he is better than Romney. He is by no means, Hitleresque.

stevef00

I agree w/you. Obama is not the best President and considered what was handed to his administration, Obama has done a descent job. I am (like most americans) concerned about the economy, but the stance the GOP has on civil rights (marriage, religion, war on women, family relationships), combined with Romney's lack of experience makes it clear that Obama is the right choice in 2012

I have been meeting more and more so called conservative Christians who say they are not even going to vote on November 6th because they do not particularly like Obama and they are very afraid of Romney because he is a mormon and they all think that mormonism is some strange secret evil cult.

The media does not need to perpetuate the narrative that Romney is nothing more than a bumbling buffoon...Romney is doing that all by himself.

Gman....I think it is really safe to say that ALL religions are some sort of secret evil cult.

If Team Obama is in trouble it is the U.S. that is in truble. Righty Conservatives will stop at nothing to destroy America.

F6Zman

The Votes are being counted by a company in Spain Owned by George Soros! http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-776220

Which is TREASON! And it is easier for electoral FRAUD!

About this iReport (that'd be the one you posted above)

Not vetted for CNN............

You are Craaaaaaazzzzy!!!!

SCYTL

Claim: President Obama has sold the tabulating of votes in U.S. national elections to Scytl, a Spanish company run by a donor to his campaign.

FALSE
Despite claims that Pere Vallés "donated heavily to the 2008 Obama campaign," a search of all donors to the 2008 presidential campaign of Barack Obama does not turn up a contribution (of any size) from anyone with that name. (Likewise, we found no evidence supporting the common rumor that financier George Soros holds an ownership stake in Scytl.)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/scytl.asp

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I also did a another search on the "Western Center for Journalism" It is a conservative blog.

Guess who is apart of this cabal? It the WorldNetDaily (better know as World Nut Daily). Yup, these are the people who swear our President was born in Kenya and is a Muslim.

In 1997, Farah created the news website WorldNetDaily as a division of the Western Journalism Center. In 1999, WorldNetDaily was spun off^[5] as a for-profit division of the Center. The Center and Farah own a majority of WorldNetDaily's stock.^[6]

The Center doesn't include either an address or telephone number on its letterhead, but is believed to be headed by conservative author, speaker, and political consultant Floyd Brown.^[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Journalism_Center#Ownership

I'm not sure but this could be where some small-minded folks working these days for GOP front groups, we [Brads's Blog] suspect this choice for a home office would be entirely too cramped even for the tiniest of professional Republican disinformation operatives.

8409 Pickwick Lane 299", the address for the Dallas, TX company who designed the website for the ACVR or --- perhaps even more likely --- the headquarters for the American Center for Voting Rights itself!...

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/AC4VR_299.jpg

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Maybe you can find the address somewhere in Spain?

Timberbear

If 95% of white voters vote for Romney like 95% of Afro-Americans will vote for Obama (according to the latest polls), Romney would be ahead by a landslide. I just wish people would vote based on the issues instead of along racial lines. That way the best person for the job would win.

President Obama won election in 2008 because a lot of white folks voted for him. His opponent John McCain was white, so obviously many people did not vote along racial lines. That election was a huge victory for this country for people of every race. The best person for the job won, and I don't think you will find many Americans wishing McCain/Palin had won instead.

We need to keep President Obama in office. We know we can trust him to keep us safe and bring this country out of the hole the GOP dug (the hole they want to go back to).

RE-ELECT OBAMA/BIDEN

How is it that after one gaffe after another, even when Romney insults half of the country, he could even be in this race at all? It isn't like he has suddenly become less crappy of a candidate.

Still no plan, no disclosure, no transparency, nothing but vague generalities about how he will 'create jobs' and 'fix the economy'.

If it is that easy, I promise to 'create even more jobs' and 'fix the economy forever'.

Top that, Wrongme.

I have been meeting more and more so called conservative Christians who say they are not even going to vote on November 6th because they do not particularly like Obama and they are very afraid of Romney because he is a mormon and they all think that mormonism is some strange secret evil cult.

As a Christian who attends church every week and talks to other Christians daily I can honestly say I have never heard anyone mention anything even close to what you have said. Although we may disagree, I like other Christians have a great deal of respect for Mormons and the way they live their life and the way they treat others. The only people I have heard call Mormonism a cult have been on the left,like a suspect you are. Many on the left have bad opinions of religions in general but have really attacked the Mormon faith during this election because they disagree with Romney. You spread these lies but actually the Catholic church and other Christian churches are actively asking their members to vote for Romney because they disagree with the Obama mandate that requires faith based hospitals to cover things like the morning after pill which goes against their beliefs.

Catholic bishops have vowed to continue the fight against what they say is one of the most objectionable outcomes of the health care law that the Supreme Court largely upheld on Thursday: the requirement that religious institutions that aren't strictly for worship, including hospitals and schools, provide birth control with no co-pay as part of insurance plans.- Huffington Post

I came to this vine with a rather generic message about GOTV in mind. Once I read this thread I realized that didn't even begin to express my thoughts.

Read the comment from the Right that were posted above...really read them and think about them. It's obvious that Conservatives have become radically unhinged. The conspiracy theories, paralyzing fear, hatred, and general closed-minded attitudes just scream when you look at them in total.

When these kinds of paranoid visions and desperately irrational thoughts lead a major political party only bad things happen. At this point the Republican Party is totally encased in irrationality, is totally immune to facts and sensible thought. I don't know what the solution is, but treating the GOP as a reasonable player in our political discourse isn't it...and won't be until the Tea-poison is totally purged through rejection at the ballot box.

Folks, GOTV isn't an important thing, it's the only thing.

Ow is raising taxes on corporations that are already moving jobs out of the country to reduce their tax burden supporting American Jobs. It is pushing more jobs out of the country.

That's an illogical comment. Corporations function to make money and to increase short-term value for their shareholders. Corporate leaders who are civic-minded and who care about this country over their million dollar salaries and perks are few and far between. Unfortunately, some of them need an incentive to hire American workers and keep jobs in the U.S. or a disincentive to move jobs overseas.

Romney - Chief outsourcer of U.S. jobs.

You bet he is. He is smart enough to know if he want's to compete in the Global Market he has to get out from under the high corporate taxes in the USA.

Someone has you brainwashed but good. Are you aware that U.S. corporations are sitting on mounds of cash? Where are the jobs? Tax breaks did not create jobs for Americans, yet you support your own oppression. You are owned, tether, owned by multi-national corporate interests. We all are!

Hence the 'tether'.

This is not about winning or losing.

This debate is about more airtime to send your message.

It has to be about specifics about policies on the economy, jobs, the debt and the 47%.

It's questions about both the past and the future...

What have you and your team done for me in the past and why should we trust you going forward?

How did you and your team contribute to our growth and how did you interfere?

I cannot wait for Romney to answer...

how he plans to pay for the $5 TRILLION tax break for the rich?

Why are you NOT releasing your 2009 tax returns?

What are you going to replace National Health Care with?

Where is your math on reducing the debt without revenues.

I want him on record accusing entitlements as the cause of the national debt.

I wonder how many of these right wing wacko's will have to hold their nose when they vote for Romney?

God save us, I pray, from a Romney presidency where businesses and corporations will wheeled even more control for bigger profits than they do already and the heck with the workers and middle class. All Power to the rich and business world!

Bob-902090

If you want to be totally fair go the Fox NEWs website...

You lost me at hello. It's a complete oxymoron to call anything on Fox 'totally fair'.

The evil owner of Fox, the Australian tabloid king Rupert Murdoch, a man who cares nothing for the place of media as a disseminator of factual information in a democratic society, has systematically and brutally frightened and brainwashed the American public.

We need to hold Fox and Murdoch accountable. He should be stripped of his citizenship and deported.

Conservatives boarder on a Nazi like fringe!

Conservatives boarder on a Nazi like fringe!

Romney a Chief outsourcer of jobs?

This has been disproven so many times it is just ignorant to keep postin and repeating it. The left leaning website "FactCheck.org" has written many times now that this is a lie and that under Romney NO jobs were shipped over seas!

Chill out everybody. Deep cleansing breathes, count to ten, exhale, relax.

You can shout rhetoric at each other all day and it does not mean a thing. You are the hard-core. You are going to vote your way and they will vote their way and nothing you do or say will change the other person's mind.

You are just endangering your lives with your high blood pressure and hairy eyeballs.

Calm down.

Tomorrow you'll have something worth talking about. Then we'll have a clear indication of how close the race is. By Friday the post debate poll numbers will tell the tale and set the schedule for the next 30 days. So take a pill, relax, chill, have a drink and wait for it before you all blow a gasket.

Obama/Biden 2012

We need to hold Fox and Murdoch accountable. He should be stripped of his citizenship and deported.

Here you see the true nature of liberalism. It is not enough to just disagree and let people decide, no if you don't tow the liberal line they want to shut you down, have you arrested, deported, punished. The liberals have CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, ect... but it that doesn't matter because they don't want even one dissenting voice allowed to speak.

We all need to Vote a Straight Democratic Ticket and clean out that rat hole republican-tea bag Congress.

4 more for 44

The only people I have heard call Mormonism a cult have been on the left,like a suspect you are. Many on the left have bad opinions of religions in general but have really attacked the Mormon faith during this election because they disagree with Romney. You spread these lies but actually the Catholic church and other Christian churches are actively asking their members to vote for Romney because they disagree with the Obama mandate that requires faith based hospitals to cover things like the morning after pill which goes against their beliefs.

I have nothing against Mormons as people. They seem to have many fine traits: they work hard, educate themselves, focus on their families, etc.

But as a religion? Mormonism is a cult if ever there was one!

Read up on the subject, Logic. It was founded by a so-called 'prophet' who used his charisma to convince others to practice polygamy (for his own purposes). They were reviled everywhere they went, until finally they settled in the deserts of Utah. Mormons continued to practice polygamy until they were forced to abandon it by law. As recently as 1978, black men were not allowed as lay priests in the church (their sins had stained their skin dark, or so they believed.)

Mormons baptize the dead, even those of other religions, as a way to reach a higher level in heaven. They have tried to baptize Anne Frank several times.

Mormons believe Jesus will return to... Missouri...???

I'd almost rather vote for a Scientologist. :)

Bob...you can't put the words 'totally fair' and 'Fox News' in the same sentence....that is an oxymoron.

The Votes are being counted by a company in Spain Owned by George Soros!

F6Zman - I examined the link you provided. No hard information. No mention of Soros. Just a lot of excited statements and allegations without support. At the top of the article, in small print, it actually says that this story was "NOT VETTED BY CNN".

Your statement (see above) strikes me as a paranoid rant.

@Ricardo-2751697 Please explain how I am paranoid, for stating facts, I am always called things that I am not by Liberals, just proves how stupid they are.

Sufferers of delusional paranoia do not see things which are not there. They do not cite facts which are not true. What they do that is crazy is misinterpret the facts around them, constructing them into a strange web of delusional fantasies.

For instance, your statements regarding executive orders:

Obama and Bush have abused their powers, now with Executive orders, these people can not be impeached for Abusing their powers.

Presidential executive orders have been used since the earliest days of the Presidency. The courts, most recently, in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 US 579 (1952), have set limits to the extent of such orders, stating that they can only be used to clarify and existing law, not to make new laws.

There is nothing which prevents Congress from impeaching, trying and removing from office any chief executive who abuses his powers. Your statement has no basis in fact.

This is the core of a paranoid delusion, poor reality testing, which allows the sufferer to assume some fantastic truth, based upon vague, half stated evidence.

I'm not claiming that your are crazy. But the ideas you promote here? Definitely.

F6Zman - that thing about Scytl? You have, as they say, been punked.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/scytl.asp

Nothing to see Bob and old news. Fox News miss this too didn't they. I watch it last night and fox would play a piece of the tape then tell you what to think of it and play another piece and tell you what to think. I don't think its going to have to affect you and Fox are hoping for. Sorry every one is not a gullable.

Steve - all I am saying is watch the report that is given and watch the speech that Obamination gave and come back here and say the same things......it is the most phoney speech that he has ever given and very racially charged......this needs to be blasted out on all the news channels...but of course the main stream media will stay away from the this like as hard and fast as they can......

If I were Romney I would show this during the debate or run the ads during the debate and and then ask the question - "Would the REAL Obama stand up?" !!!!!!! The one we see everyday or the real one that is racially driven and motivated....?????? This PHONEY needs to go back to Chicago and organize some more...or better yet - GET a real Job where you have to make day to day decesions on how to run a business and not just sit back and take over things and print money when you need it....wow are we in a mess with this clown.

We all need to Vote a Straight Democratic Ticket and clean out that rat hole republican-tea bag Congress.

Mormons believe Jesus will return to... Missouri...???

That is the voice of desperation from bigots liberals Obama worshipers..

Obama is the real OUTSOURCER AND CHIEF!

Obama has given millions if not billions of stimulus dollars to other countries.

Obama and Hillary as we know now outsourced security at our embassy in Libya and now we have Americans dead.

President Obama let China raise Tariffs on GM's made in America large engine cars, as a result GM owned by the Government and Unions agreed to build a Cadillac Manufacturing plant in China.

Similarly, by letting China place a 30% tariff on American-made excavators, Obama virtually forced Caterpillar, one of America's most efficient manufacturers, to build new small crawler factories in China and give technology to its Chinese partner in order to access the Chinese market

Under Obama's stewardship, every month for the last 27 months, U.S. net exports (exports minus imports) in goods to China have fallen steadily due to the Chinese government keeping out made-in-America products. Month after month, our trade deficit with China worsens, setting a new record:

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/whos_the_real_outsourcer_romney_or_obama.html#ixzz28EsBTXZH

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/whos_the_real_outsourcer_romney_or_obama.html#ixzz28ErrehRY

Bob, only a idiotic racist right wing wacked out zombie watches Faux News spews. And apparently you qualify. Now post your ridiculous garbage another 20 times or so... you're only wasting your time and Newsvine's server memory pal. People like you are pathetic. Plus, do some reading yourself about your Mitten, with whom you are smitten and you might find you're only parroting lies and propoganda: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829

Carletta Ashby

If Obama wins our only hope is that the Mayan calendar is correct and we go flying off the planet. If he wins and I was a millionaire, I'd be moving myself and my money to another country. I'm even considering moving to Costa Rica--I wouldn't have to worry about the Mexican drug cartel because they will be here enjoying the DREAM Act.

Why wait? Go on ahead and move out now if you think the U.S. is so terrible a place to live!

You kind of have to wonder where some of these people are living...or maybe they're watching an endless loop of The Road? Is there an epidemic of senility here? Is anmesia really that prevalent?

Put on your thinking caps, conservatives, and go all the way back to four years ago when our economy was in freefall (thanks to the dismal stewardship of George W. Bush). Granted unemployment is still higher than it should be, especially in some places and for some demographics. But overall, over 4 million jobs have been created during Obama's first term and many states (the swing states) have lower unemployment than the national average. Don't forget that we lost nine million jobs under Bush.

Too many people are being frightened and brainwashed into believing that everything is terrible in the U.S. because of Obama. Reality says otherwise: the stock market is up, retailers are expecting a strong holiday season, most people can see that we are moving in the right direction, albeit more slowly than Americans, like spoiled children accustomed to immediate gratification, would like.

U.S.A. Love it or leave it!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

Read the comment from the Right that were posted above...really read them and think about them. It's obvious that Conservatives have become radically unhinged. The conspiracy theories, paralyzing fear, hatred, and general closed-minded attitudes just scream when you look at them in total.

John: F6Zman is a prime example of the paranoia, unhinged nature of some of the RWNJ posts. His first post at #1.2 talks about Spain counting our votes, claiming treason and voter fraud, complete with a link to a debunked article posted on CNN iReport. All one needs to do is scroll down to the first comment that blows poor F6's claim out of the water. I've posted some of that commentary here...use the link to read the rest. F6Zman is a poster that deserves to be placed on ignore, unless of course you enjoy reading the one-liners posted by a raving lunatic. He rather reminds me of Brad Pitt's role as Jeffery Goines in Twelve Monkeys, a rather stellar performance.

Why is this allowed to remain posted? If you follow this story back you end up at the "Western Center for Journalism" which is a conservative blog. Conservatives have a right to their viewpoint, but here are no sources of any kind attached to the post. This particular upload is taken verbatim from that post and the sources it cites are, in order:

1: A reposting of the Western Center for Journalism's original post making the claims of "vote counting overseas."

2: A report from Fox News regarding the testing of internet voting machines done by what I can only assume was the Washington D.C. elections officials since no attribution was given. The company at issue in this article, SCYTL, nor the Tampa based corporation, SOE, that was purchased by SCYTL were mentioned because neither had anything to do with the D.C. machines.

3: A study of the internet voting machine system named Pioneer which studied how easily it could be hacked and how it could be made more secure. Whether or not this particular program is the one used in SOE's machines or if it in fact does allow for the transmission of vote counts has not been established. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-776220

@ Redvirginia...

Wow!!Where to start with your delusions...put down the koolaid and back away from the table.

We need a leader that works with both sides of the political spectrum and Romney has experience doing that, he work with Republicans and Democrats in a Liberal State , Romney is a leader.

Romney is on record- unwittingly- as having already dismissed 47% of America. So explain how he works with both sides of the spectrum. As to this pathetic, sophomoric delusion that there is a "liberal media" that is somehow marching us all to the left, please explain why, then, EVERY SINGLE MAJOR NEWS SOURCE IN THIS COUNTRY GOT BEHIND bUSHCO'S CHEVY TO WAR AFTER 9-11 WHEN THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT. If this silly allegation were true, CBS, NBC, and CNN (among others) would all have been holding bushco's feet to the fire for proof. Yet that didn't happen. The news media,ALL of it, fell in behind bush lockstep and never questioned things until far too late when American soldiers were dying by the hundreds and Iraqi civilians by the thousands. Why is that?

RWNJs indeed. But don't let reality interrupt your little hallucination.

Bob: no one but the deluded takes Fox "news" seriously. Learn the difference between reporting and propaganda.

Do educate yourself.

I read an interesting article yesterday where the pollster for John Edwards admitted under oath that Democratic polls are nothing but psychological operations that cherry pick and manipulate data to fire up their base or suppress the Republican base, and then went on to describe how he did it for Edwards and how difficult it became as Edwards lost ground but the candidate still demanded more positive polls showing he was still viable, even after the pollster personally told Edwards he was done, but , money talks. Fast forward to today and you can see the same thing, polls being manipulated to fire up the Dems and suppress the Republicans, think about it, at the height of Obama's popularity, he won by about seven percent of the vote, now look at these polls, where Dems are oversampled eight to thirteen percent!, up to five per cent higher than the high point of Obama's popularity!, even though his approval rating is thirty per cent lower now than it was then!, but not to worry, the pollsters aren't stupid,so, to maintain their viability, after they have done all the damage they can, you will see the polls come back to,"within the margin of error" ranges, (with their guy on the upside of course),so, win or lose, they're still good to go for the next election cycle.

I have nothing against Mormons as people. They seem to have many fine traits: they work hard, educate themselves, focus on their families, etc.

But as a religion? Mormonism is a cult if ever there was one!

Read up on the subject, Logic. It was founded by a so-called 'prophet' who used his charisma to convince others to practice polygamy (for his own purposes).

From an outside view, worded a certain way you can make all religions seem silly, South Park on comedy central does a good job at showing this. Again I tend to judge people and their faith on their actions and behaviors today not on their founders or history. Christianity has had some questionable practices and leaders in the past but that shouldn't take away from the services that is being provided by Christians today. Islam's main man Muhammed married a six year old and had relations with her when she was 9 yrs old, yet I never had a problem with Islam until recently when they started their jihad thing which is a current problem and not something liberals tend to pass any judgement on.

Here you see the true nature of liberalism. It is not enough to just disagree and let people decide, no if you don't tow the liberal line they want to shut you down, have you arrested, deported, punished. The liberals have CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, ect... but it that doesn't matter because they don't want even one dissenting voice allowed to speak.

I believe in a free and fair press, Logic, not in an addiction to the adrenaline rush of being constantly riled up and frightened by tabloid journalism.

Do you get your print news from The National Enquirer?

This country has been systematically brainwashed and dumbed down by a foreign tabloid journalist- Rupert Murdoch- who cares about one thing only: $$$$$$$

He couldn't care less about being fair and balanced. Sheesh, sometimes it feels like we're living in a country half full of four-year-olds.

Americans, think for yourselves and quit eating the lies Fox spoon-feeds you.

albeit more slowly than Americans, like spoiled children accustomed to immediate gratification, would like.

U.S.A. Love it or leave it!

Spoiled Children? You call asking the president to turn the economy around in a time period of four years "immediate gratification"? I'm sorry I assumed since every economic recovery in history was quicker and stronger then this one I don't think I'm being out of line saying Obama has failed to do what every other president in a recession was able to do.

Love it or leave it? If I had a conservative country to run to I probably would leave it. You liberals can have everything you like and think works in Europe (which is back in a recession and going broke) yet you stay here and continue to drive American policy towards something that is shown to be a failure with Greece, Spain, France, and most others struggling to keep a float and having 20+ percent unemployment. I see no conservative country for me to escape to as of yet.

PG80tard

It is horribly unfair to compare Obama to Hitler. Hitler was so much better than Obama.

So, what is it that Obama has done that you see as being worse than having millions of people killed for no other reason than their heritage. Unless it is because you actually like what Hitler did.

FedupwithFed

So are you saying that anyone other than the media cannot post a truthful fact? No one can do their own research? It’s only TRUTH if the media posts it? So everyone on this BLOG is full of it? Every teacher doesn't know what they are teaching? Every author that ever wrote a book is lying? Then I guess every word out of politicians mouths are lies! Your naiveté is frightening!

Simply responded. "PROVE to me that Congress created a bill that Obama signed establishing gas prices at $4.00 a gallon". That's called a "TRUTHFUL" Fact, not fiction in a blog.

PG80tard

It is horribly unfair to compare Obama to Hitler. Hitler was so much better than Obama.

Seriously? Hitler, a man that sponsored and led the MURDER of millions of jews is better than Obama? Seriously??? This has to be the most pathetic comment I have ever read.

PG8, seriously??? What an asinine statement.. The word Hitler and awesome in the same sentence makes you look like an ignoramous.. Hitler was far from awesome.. He was a racist and a fake.. Obama is no Hitler I don't support Obama but that statement is so ignorant of you..

Biden argued that the GOP, in contrast, would raise taxes on a middle class that has "been buried over the last four years."

So let's see Joe.....you're arguing something that is either false or hasn't happened.....on a class of people you've buried?

Thanks for pointing out to everyone what a bunch of bumbling idiots the Democrats have been since they took 2/3 or better control of Washington 5 years ago.

Democratic policies have slowly destroyed the country......debt, unemployment, job creation, economy....all IN THE TANK!

Pelosi & Reid deserve death by firing squad.

Do you get your print news from The National Enquirer?Actually I get most of my news from online. My daily look throughs are the Drudge Report, The Guardian, Huffington Post, Daily Caller, and of course MSN.

This country has been systematically brainwashed and dumbed down by a foreign tabloid journalist- Rupert Murdoch- who cares about one thing only: $$$$$$$ I don't know Rupert so I don't pretend to know what he cares about, but the brainwashing and dumbing down I think comes from the left and the liberal media who choose the stories the American public get to hear and the stories they choose to bury. Re writinghistory is another liberal tactic which confuses Americans to the fact it was a Democrat who stood in front of a school and fought against desegregation.

He couldn't care less about being fair and balanced. Sheesh, sometimes it feels like we're living in a country half full of four-year-olds. I think he cares about being different then all the other news outlets and giving the American people a choice on what they want to watch. Every station you don't have a problem with is liberal (which is why you don't complain) Fox gives the news from a conservative perspective which in a free society should not only be allowed but different points of view should be applauded.

Americans, think for yourselves and quit eating the lies Fox spoon-feeds you. American do think for themselves which is why they are choosing to watch Fox News.

Romney is on record- unwittingly- as having already dismissed 47% of America. So explain how he works with both sides of the spectrum.

It is not difficult to explain. the 46% or 47 % that depend from government thanks to the failure of the Obama economic policies, his 4 years of class warfare have an effect , now they are scare that Romney will take their benefits away, thanks to the lies of the Obama campaign machine , so for Romney is more difficult to capt a big majority of those votes it does not mean he won't take care of them regardless if they vote for him or not all is propaganda to embarrass Romney.

As to this pathetic, sophomoric delusion that there is a "liberal media" that is somehow marching us all to the left, please explain why, then, EVERY SINGLE MAJOR NEWS SOURCE IN THIS COUNTRY GOT BEHIND bUSHCO'S CHEVY TO WAR AFTER 9-11 WHEN THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT.If this silly allegation were true, CBS, NBC, and CNN (among others) would all have been holding bushco's feet to the fire for proof. Yet that didn't happen. The news media,ALL of it, fell in behind bush lockstep and never questioned things until far too late when American soldiers were dying by the hundreds and Iraqi civilians by the thousands. Why is that?

You have to be bias to not recognize that CBS, NBC, and CNN (among others) are the PR for obama , 5 minutes watching those comments, ( not news) from the so called News Channels are enough to have a clear percetion of their liberal bias.

The debates are in about 12hr, and I suspect Romney will come out winning against the masterbater obama.

please explain why, then, EVERY SINGLE MAJOR NEWS SOURCE IN THIS COUNTRY GOT BEHIND bUSHCO'S CHEVY TO WAR AFTER 9-11 WHEN THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO INDEPENDENT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT

Well at the time most Americans and Democrats supported action as well so it wasn't considered by the media to be backing Bush.

More proof that the Republicans have major issues with reality. NPR interviewed both Ohio Gov Kasich and former Ohio Gov Strickland this AM regarding the election and tonight's debate. The first thing out of Republican Gov Kasich's mouth was a statement to the effect that 'polls aren't accurate'. Really? I hear that alot these days, and it makes no logical sense to me. Why would a pollster purposefully release bad data? Like any other business, they have their reputation to protect. And bad data would not assure repeat business. I took probability and statistics, and you can make the same numbers tell different stories. But the Republican's insistence that all polls are ALL false(as long as they favor the Dems) is denial in the extreme, verging on a psychotic break. The only truth to escape Kasich's lips was having to admit that the economy in Ohio is doing quite well, and believe me, he choked on those words.

As long as NBC/Marist continues to over sample Democrats by 30%, their poll is meaningless. In 2008, when there were a record number of voters that identified with Democrats vs a record low for Republicans, there were only about 21% more Democratic voters (39% of total) than Republican voters (32% of total) - the rest being Independents. After the Republican blowout in 2010, does anyone really believe Democrats are even stronger than in 2008?

By the way - Marist has one of the worst track records of all of the major pollsters - missing the actual results by an average of about 3% for 2004 and 2008, biased for the Democrat - In 2004, Marist had Kerry winning by 1%, but the actual result was Bush winning by 2.4%. Others with a poor polling record of about 3% were Gallup, Reuters and surprisingly, Fox News - all of them were biased towards the Democrat by about 3% when compared with actual results.

The most accurate major pollster was Rasmussen, who's average error for 2004 and 2008 was a miniscule 1%, and their bias was a miniscule 0.3%.

These results are from the final polls as reported by Realclearpolitics, which also had a Democratic bias averaging 1.2% for the 12 major pollsters for 2004 & 2008 (In other words, the average final polls overstated the Democrat's margin by 1.2% when compared with the final results).

If you want the REAL estimates, I would suggest looking at the pollster with the best record - Rasmussen, which has it at 49% for Obama vs 47% for Romney nationwide - easily within the margin of error.

I hope Republicans keep up the charade of thinking the polls are biased, it will be all the more rewarding when they get spanked on election day.

On another note, in 2008 I voted for Obama of course, but I never stopped respecting McCain. I respected his record, his service and what he's done for Arizona. I want republicans like McCain in the senate and congress, maybe not the presidency, or as my elected official, but I recognize the need for the opposition. Romney, however, I have nothing more than disdain for. He's another rich, whining baby that will say anything to get elected. Why the republicans chose him is still baffling to me. We could have had a real debate tonight, one that touches on important issues. Instead we won't really know what happened until tomorrow morning, when the fact checkers sort through the word salads we are about to hear.

Boy, the RWNJ's are out in force today! This is good as it lets us adults see clearly just how insane they really are. They would make good clowns for Barnum & Bailey.

About Ohio. I heard that people were camping out on the sidewalk in front of the polling places in order to vote early. How is that anti-American voter suppression working out for you RWNJs?

Women have already voted. 44% of Obama's money is coming from women. How is that State Rape and Legitimate Rape stuff working out for you RWNJs?

It kinda sorta looks like the 47% is a little miffed at being insulted and is fighting back against you RWNJs.

It will be interesting to see how and if Romney actually answers some key issues. With things like an actual plan. Or just more skirting around issues. And when he does put said foot on mouth. I wonder how long it will take to retract such statements. At least even if I disagree with some of what the President says or does. He stands behind those statements.

I would rather have a POTUS stand for something. Than someone Romney fall and flip flop for anyone and anything. Romney does not have the backbone for the job. Unless it is a cry for war

Even if Obama screws up or even dies, I will vote for him over having our country run by big businesses and corporations! That is what Mitt would take us too. Also the special interests of the Koch Brothers would destroy our democracy! God save us from the radical right. Pray a lot!

Tether - Thank you for correcting Walker. Walker tends to speak on emotion and not facts using mostly the Liberal/Democratic Talking points to support view.

Independents for Romney/Ryan 2012!

7.62, You seem to be an expert on the subject? How is your right hand? I figure that since you are a right wing extremists that is what you sue r are you left handed?

Man, it is amazing to see all the lemming here. First off, the polling is biased because the they are not bolling with proper percentage breakouts. They are OVER sampling Dems and under on Reps.

But hey, it you like having your country give you everything and not working for it, we can start welcoming oursselves to Greece.

Socialism does not work and has been proven soooo many time that it does not work. The freedoms that you enjoy today are not because of socialism but rather capitalism.

You will NOT get ahead in a socialist society. If I work really hard, I expect to get ahead and if I prefer to be laid back, that too is an option. That is the choice I have which s afforded to ALL. Your choice is there but in a socialist society, the moment you try and get ahead, you are taxed like crazy because you must be oppressing someone else.

Really, all of you here want slavery under an opressive system such as socialism!? Who wants someone else telling them that they cannot over achieve or even achieve! Weird, and you people are all over it. Remember "redistribute wealth". That is SOCIALISM. It is not a good thing. I understand standing up for principles but look at who you are standing up with.

Eileen-2117949 "Why would a pollster purposefully release bad data? Like any other business, they have their reputation to protect."

It's not much of a reputation if they consistently miss the mark, but then who knows if the media reporting the news doesn't report their mistakes.

NBC uses Marist for their polling, and in 2004 the final Marist poll showed Kerry winning by 1%, but the actual result was Bush winning by 2.4% - an error of 3.4%, biased toward the Democrat. In 2008, Gallup had Obama winning by 11% in their final poll, overstating the actual margin of 7.3% by almost 4% - again biased towards the Democrat.

Did you see any reporting on the mistakes and Democratic bias in the Liberal media?

At the end of fiscal 2008, the National Debt was $9.98 Trillion according to Obama's White House Budget figures. As of yesterday, it was $16.159 Trillion. According to Obama's own 2013 Budget projections, if we continue to spend at his projected rate, the Debt will be over $20 Trillion by the end of 2016, and over $26 Trillion a few years later.

That is a Debt that we are passing on to our children, and even Bill Clinton recently sounded the alarm about the unsustainable Debt figures and the impact on the economy when interest rates increase (as they inevitably will because of the Deficits).

Can we REALLY afford four more years of Obama?

Kaybeetoys

You blame Bush because it was under his watch, but the reality is the downfall started under President Clinton. The Glass-Steagall Act was removed under Clinton and paved the way for the Sub Prime Division of the Banking Industry, THE SEED OF THE ECONOMIC DEMISE. Greed run amuck. They passed out loans like candy and ignored sound fundamental principles and we all know to well the outcome.

Unfortunately for Bush, timing being everything, the Dow fell after reaching the 14,000 area, it made a 50% retracement, which is a typical natural move for the Market, it had to correct and it did. For the most part, the Market regulates itself although from time to time, world events and Government policy will have it's influence. The President doesn't have control over the Market, but he will get the credit one way or the other depending on the situation. In this case, the perception of blame is layed at the Republicans feet but it's not all their fault, Clinton and the Democrats had a major part.

It's been four years now and you cite that the Market is up under Obama, which it is but not because of him, it's the Markets natural flow. The Market is approaching the the same height under Bush and guess what, it's now time for another correction. I don't believe it will be to the same degree as it was under Bush, but it needs to come down, probalby around the 10,000 area, and then should rebound, but if it happens within the month it will project a negative image which could hurt Obama election wise.

Just for the record, Romney is NOT the face of the wealthy. The top 3 wealthiest indivduals in America are Democrats, Gates, Buffett and Ellsion. Of the Top 20 on Forbes list, 60% are Democrats. Of the top 15 Politicians in Congress, 8 are Democrats with a Democrat heading the list, so this perception that Republicans are the EVIL RICH is not true, so think before you spew class warfare.

clwyd-2621393

Even if Obama screws up or even dies, I will vote for him over having our country run by big businesses and corporations! That is what Mitt would take us too. Also the special interests of the Koch Brothers would destroy our democracy! God save us from the radical right. Pray a lot!

"Biden argued that the GOP, in contrast, would raise taxes on a middle class that has "been buried over the last four years.""

Yep, we're praying......that these morons are VOTED OUT.

I Wonder What Mick Romney Opening Zingers will be During the Pres Debate. Maybe He Will

Start By taking a play of out Tim Palenty's Old Playbook. . . .

Declaring that Pres. Obama is Engaging In "Class Warefare" Since that is Their Favorite Terms To Use When the Rich are Down and Out.

I hope Romney says This.

So That the Real Truths Comes out on This Matter:

Whose Engaging in Class warefare ? ? ?

Well The Replublicans Are . . . . Because they have been Responsible For:

1)Saying that the working poor and lower middle class 47% do not matter to them

2)Using every dirty Jim Crow tactic to prevent Voting by the Poor (Req Ids to vote, Striking Down Registered Voters in FL)

3)His Party (R) Was Responsible For the Biggest Economic Collapse Since the Great Depression and who did that hurt the most . . . The poor and working Class

His Party (R) Was Also Responsible For More Jobs Being Outsourced (During the Bush Administration) than Any Time In History ! ! ! who did that hurt the most . . . The poor and working Class

Hence, Now NO or Very Tiny Middle Class Is Left .

Now Because of His Party, The Rich are Even More Hated By The Poor And Poor Are Even More Hated By The Rich ! ! ! (Now THATS CLASS WARFARE).

I Truly Really Hope That Romney Brings This Issue Up So That Pres. Obama Can Pound Him to The Ground On It ! ! !

Vince Campillo

Just for the record, Romney is NOT the face of the wealthy. The top 3 wealthiest indivduals in America are Democrats, Gates, Buffett and Ellsion. Of the Top 20 on Forbes list, 60% are Democrats. Of the top 15 Politicians in Congress, 8 are Democrats with a Democrat heading the list, so this perception that Republicans are the EVIL RICH is not true, so think before you spew class warfare.

Don't forget Oprah.....the offshore banking queen.....

Liberal SIN tactics is alive today:

Subject change

Ignore the facts

Name calling

Through the mist on a two month eve of new year dawning, the guidance will change of a powerful young nation. The smoke from the political alchemy clears as the great adolescent learns of its composition. A tried and true concoction shall emerge as familiarity provides its comfort....

My Republican Christian Mom will not vote this November, she doesn't like Obama and she wont vote for a Mormon like Romney, she says that if she Votes for Romney Jesus wont let her in Heaven and she will be stuck in Hell

I am astounded how many democrats are leaving comments that make NO sense and are severely delusional... Stating things as facts that have NO truth to them at all!! But then again what can be expected from a person who backs an administration that has failed in SOOOO many ways? There is no way to defend Obama's blunders without spinning the truth... Wake up and do some reaserch people! If you are getting your "facts" from places like NBC or any of the mainstream media your listening to straight up propaganda! Defined as:

Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

It's amazing how we can have such a failed president who did nothing for FOUR years after promising to cut the deficit and create alot of jobs. NOW he is full of MORE promises and alot of "great" ideas about jobs and cutting our debt. Does anyone actually believe this bull@!$%#?????????? We are in dire need of a LEADER who will get us back on track and it AIN'T barry.

Well, IndependentinSD............if she doesn't vote for Mitt and obumbo wins, she WILL BE IN HELL.

president obama needs to do everything he can to protect america.if obama thinks the china windwalkers(turbines) are spying on american government then he needs to check it out. romney lamblasting obama for protecting us from china spying. romney fabricating again..romney has a small appliance store in china employing 20,000 workers.(16 hours a day) $2.00 dollars a day working these sweatshops no air conditioning. they live in a dorm three girls to a dorm. no air conditioning. 1 bathroom per 30 people.(barbed wire fences everywhere). this is some of romney's (outsourcing).

I do not understand the right, you all leave me dumbfounded honestly. Do you read your comments?

Obama is a socialist, worst than Hitler? You know what is socialist, taxes in general, free education, medicare/medicaid, social security, government assistance in paying for school, any tax deduction, in fact any expense that is made by the government to benefit our living is socialism since technically each rich person has given more money for such things than a poor person. So lets just get rid of it all? Its all just "wealth redistribution"

Seriously educate yourselves.

Obama's latest ad here in Ohio says he will cut the deficit in half ( he said that in 08 too ) The way he plans to do that he says is end the war in afganistan and somehow create ( just like in 08 ) 1 million new jobs. N ow the problem with the math if you can add and subrtact that is. He plans to use the money saved from ending the war to rebuild infrastructure and hire 100,000 new teachers. Now unless i am missing somehitng here if you continue to spend the money that is driving up our debt won't the debt still continue to rise ? It seems to me that Obama has the missguided assumption we can spend our way out of debt.

All I am trying to point out here folks is. We have to really view each candidates claims and history like our country depends on it because it does. We need real leaders in power not smooth talkers or good debaters but people in all branches who truely have America at heart.

Tether:

You're right. People HAVE To make sacrifices! Good for Romney for being HONEST saying the middle class is going to have to pay more taxes. The rich can't pay for EVERYTHING! Yes, some government assistance (scholarships, etc) will have to go! We have all this debt, how the hell else are we going to pay it off? We can't just keep giving out money like it's nothing, and expect the debt to go down. EVERYONE, "elitists", middle class, AND the poor will have to make more sacrifices. If I am having trouble paying my bills, I cut unnecessary spending, the same way our country needs to.

I make about $25,000/year and am 22. This is not a good salary, I know. I do not consider myself poor. I have a car, a dog, an apartment, an iphone, and eat pretty well. I am not poor. I'm sick of all these people complaining about how poor they are, and how the rich don't pay their "fair share". IF YOU OWN A SMARTPHONE, YOU ARE NOT POOR. A smartphone is a luxury, people, not a necessity.

I kid you not, an idiot my dad works with admitted to him that he and his wife aren't married so she can get welfare. He makes $80,000+ a year (CNC Machinist), and they get welfare. He has a brand new truck, a nicer home, and nice things. My dad told him he was an enemy of our country, and we will be turning him in soon. I understand that it's a very small percentage of people who do things like that, but it pisses me off. THIS is the kind of people Romney was talking about when he was talking about "the 47%" (even though it's not actually 47%).

Like the referral to Letters--RWNJS!

Good one.

Anyone who believes this is a complete idiot. Because Republicans don't support tax payer money paying for women's (or mens's for that matter) birth control and abortions we are the equivalent to the Taliban? The Taliban and others you listed practice things like the stoning of women, honour killings of their daughters, banning of education.

That is how it starts. Anyone who doesn't believe that has forgotten our own history. The ideals that are espoused by the Taliban are the same ideals that are espoused by the extreme right wing in our country; that women must be submissive to men. The difference is that we are still a nation of laws, so the right wing in our country cannot get away with the violence that the Taliban get away with.

Spoiled Children? You call asking the president to turn the economy around in a time period of four years "immediate gratification"? I'm sorry I assumed since every economic recovery in history was quicker and stronger then this one I don't think I'm being out of line saying Obama has failed to do what every other president in a recession was able to do.

Your argument is one of degree, not of direction. President Obama has turned the economy around. Economists agree that the turnaround would have been accomplished more quickly without the foot-dragging of congress.

The Republican party would rather see our country fail than see President Obama succeed, and that is a truth you can't deny.

Love it or leave it? If I had a conservative country to run to I probably would leave it. You liberals can have everything you like and think works in Europe (which is back in a recession and going broke) yet you stay here and continue to drive American policy towards something that is shown to be a failure with Greece, Spain, France, and most others struggling to keep a float and having 20+ percent unemployment. I see no conservative country for me to escape to as of yet.

That's not what the GOP leadership tells us. Paul Ryan says the U.S. is a "right-of-center country". Do you trust him...or not?

Just out of curiousity, have you ever been to Europe?

PG80tard

You libs will go for anything. HaHaHaHaHa. This site is like visiting the monkey cage at the zoo. They fling crap too.

It has been flung all over you, and man are you covered in it!

Looks like you swallowed a lot too and now you're full of it.

Have a nice day.

Where do I sign up for my Obama phone? And I will only except this phone with the following conditions:

1- It has speed dial for food stamps

2- It has speed dial for unemployment benefits

3- It has speed dial for free health insurance

4- It has speed dial to anything else I want free

First of all, the PAULISTA'S are wrong about George Soros's company talling votes as F6ZMAN deluded to with this nonsense:

'The Votes are being counted by a company in Spain Owned by George Soros!

Which is TREASON! And it is easier for electoral FRAUD!'

FACT: Then F6ZMAN actually writes(and actually believes) ' He killed Bin Laden (Experts are now saying 9/11 was a FALSE FLAG! (So He killed Bin Laden (Experts are now saying 9/11 was a FALSE FLAG! (So Bin Laden wouldn't have been a real terrorist: ....AND USING A RIDICULOUS VIDEO: ' PURE FICTION NONSENSE!!!!F6ZMAN, please take your medication, you're past due! Bin Laden was a TERRORIST and got exactly the justice 3000 murdered Americans and their families wanted.

Peter B Post: “ The Republican Party, hijacked by
extreme social conservatives and fundamentalist religious nuts (some of whom
are no better than Pakistani or Afghani Taliban), have been waging the war on
women. And hopefully the women will defeat the Republicans this coming
November.

MITT THE MORMAN bothers me!! Mormon Religion (a
cult by definition) historically believes that women and people of color are
second class !! Research it if you don't believe it! Mitt was taught this
during early childhood development. Chances are that subconsciously he still
believes this!!! Castro was quoted: “
Give me a child from 2or 3 to 10 years of age and I’ll make them a communist
the rest of their lives!! Many religions
practice this “mind control !! “ ( and the religious rules are almost always started by a group of older, powerful, MEN). Ask a rebel Catholic “sinner” !

Nothing to see Bob and old news. Fox News miss this too didn't they. I watch it last night and fox would play a piece of the tape then tell you what to think of it and play another piece and tell you what to think. I don't think its going to have to affect you and Fox are hoping for. Sorry every one is not a gullable.

Ken: I don't know about the rest of you, but I went to Fox News and looked at the 2007 video.

IT SURE LOOKED LIKE THE PRESIDENT TO ME.

There was no look-alike and yes, it WAS A RACIALLY MOTIVATED SPEECH!

Thank you, President Obama for showing your true colors!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOiYNnpkyEo

( Start at 3:00 and go from there)

"When 9/11 happened in New York City, they waived the Stafford Act. ... And that was the right thing to do," he tells the crowd at Hampton University in Virginia. "When Hurricane Andrew struck in Florida, people said, 'Look at this devastation. We don't expect you to come up with your own money. Here, here's the money to rebuild. We're not going wait for you to scratch it together, because you're part of the American family.' "

Obama, echoing rapper Kanye West's infamous anti-Bush remarks a couple years earlier, then argues that New Orleans was treated differently, suggesting the reason was that the city is mostly black.

"What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money?" Obama says. "Makes no sense. ... Tells me that somehow the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."

My biggest issue is that Romney is planning to remove tax deductions that middle class families, like myself, use. But at the same time, he will give a tax break to the people like himself.

He admitted that he will consider taking the "axe" to popular tax deductions, like the home owners interest rate deduction, or child deductions. This will immediately impact my family, and other middle class families, while having little impact on the rich. Romney himself will still keep his tax shelters, and give himself a tax cut. So he will make me pay for his tax break.

I may not be a fan of Obama, but I can not bring myself to vote for the removal of tax deductions I need. It now comes down to a very personal decision: Do I vote to keep the tax deductions I need, or do I vote to remove them. Simple as that.

I heard Biden telling the truth yesterday and it was refreshing. He said that in the last four years under Obama the middle class had been buried! He was right on the money on that one!

Obama claims to champion the middle class, but under his policies the middle class has mo0veed downward to lower class. That, I think has been his plan all along! Every move he has made has been to move all workers in this country into one category. Sure they are all middle class now. Right where he wanted them!

Obama claims he will not turn Medicare into a voucher program but anyone who has read his new healthcare law knows that he intends to destroy it completely! My mother and father in law have seen their out of pocket expenses go way up. It is becoming increasingly harder for them to pay this cost and still have money for other necessities! This was knowingly built into Obama's plan!

Obama claimed his administration would be open and fair, but 19 of his czars refuse to give out any information on their activities under the Freedom of Information act. What Oh what could they be hiding!

Obama, stealing our future one lie at a TIME!

Roy,

Yes we can afford 4 more years as the country slowly improves from the Stimulus that was needed to offset the mess bush and the republicans created and saved God knows how many jobs and families? The stock market is almost doubled, homes are selling, jobs are being created not destroyed by 750,000 a month. God, Yes we Can!

That's not what the GOP leadership tells us. Paul Ryan says the U.S. is a "right-of-center country". Do you trust him...or not?

I believe the country is "right-of-center" but I think many people have been fooled (I was one of them when I was younger - registered democrat until 2002) and think they are democrats because they think democrats are for the middle class and poor. It wasn't until I got older and actually paid attention that I realized democrat policies hurt the middle class and poor and that the democrat party wants more government control, and intrusion in everyday life which I'm against.

Just out of curiousity, have you ever been to Europe?

Yep. I have been to Frankfurt Germany twice on business. Europe is a wonderful place to visit and great for tourist but while in Germany many of the Germans had unpleasant things to say about their neighboring countries and their policies, although we joked back and forth on things we didn't like about each others countries as well. I'm not saying everything Europe does is wrong and bad, but if high taxes and Large Government policies were the answer countries like France, Spain, and Greece should be huge successes instead going broke and having huge protests. In fact countries like Finland and Switzerland who have the most free market economies are the ones also doing the best when it comes to unemployment and money. Most European countries have a much higher personal tax then the United States but our corporate tax rates are higher which puts our businesses at a disadvantage.

MITT THE MORMAN bothers me!! Mormon Religion (a
cult by definition) historically believes that women and people of color are
second class !! Research it if you don't believe it! Mitt was taught this
during early childhood development. Chances are that subconsciously he still
believes this!!! Castro was quoted: “
Give me a child from 2or 3 to 10 years of age and I’ll make them a communist
the rest of their lives!! Many religions
practice this “mind control !! “ ( and the religious rules are almost always started by a group of older, powerful, MEN). Ask a rebel Catholic “sinner” !

Like I said in a ealier post (1.39 ) most of the bigotry I hear about the Mormons comes form the left.

Judge people and their faith by the way the live their life and treat others not by some 200 year old history. Romney along with most Mormons conduct themselves in a better manner then most Americans. They give more to charities, they are more faithful to their families, and are less likely to come down to the levels of others with name calling and labeling others beliefs or lack there of as being a cult

ROY WILSON-336103

Unfortunately, the dumbing down of America is well under way. Many American’s, especially liberals, have become self-absorbed and intellectually handicapped by a sort of “fast food style decision making process” driven primarily by short sound bites of single issue constituency rhetoric. Respected Democratic presidents such as JFK would roll over in their grave if they could see what Obama has done to our country and to the once proud Democratic party.

Beyond the obvious moral decay accelerated at an exponential rate by this president, the economic damage he has done lays in wait like an iceberg on a dark ocean night. Ninety percent of risk is lurking below the surface and remains invisible to those consumed by this “fast food style decision making process” and short sound bite single issue constituency rhetoric!

Obama induced debt (deficit spending) acts like a cancer on our nation and American society. Cancer grows and cannot be contained without serious and often invasive treatment. The cure itself poses serious side effects. We can look to Greece as a sort of microcosm of what Obama is doing to America with what may go down in history as the “most reckless fiscal policy in the history of the industrialized world”.

China and others have warned America and the world about the inherent risk in Obama policies, but it appears it will take yet another credit downgrade and perhaps a complete economic collapse for some Americans to wake up to the “harsh and frightening reality” of America’s future should Obama be reelected! STOP OBAMA NOW!

Before Romney’s time as governor, Massachusetts ranked 36th out of 50 in job creation, but over the course of his tenure the state ranked a dismal 47th out of 50—even as the national economy was growing. The Bay state only beat Michigan, Ohio, and Louisiana—which was still recovering from
the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Try reading the whole article at "FactCheck.org" and don't post it like you are the one writing it.

Romney came into office in a state ranked 50th in job creation and left office with a state ranked 28th in job creation.

As we wrote in an item this week when an Obama ad claimed Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney, in the 12 months before he took office, the state ranked 50th in job creation. That ranking remained 50th during Romney’s first year in office, but by his final year, it had improved to 28th.

It’s true, according to unemployment data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that the unemployment rate in Massachusetts was 5.6 percent when Romney took office in January 2003, and it was 4.6 percent when he left office in January 2007.

Who wouldn't go for an unemployment rate of 4.6% right about now?

Frank, Frank, Frank; There you go again.

Of course we want to destroy the country. You see, none of actually live in the U.S.A. We don't live there, our children and grandchildren don't live there. Why should we worry about clean air and water in the U.S.A. or the national debt when we're all living in Mexico. We just swapped places with the illegals and became "undocumented Mexicans."

As for the U.S.A., we have to destroy it in order to save it.

paul ryan reminds me of a beauty school dropout. almost as much brains.

texastornado,

You should meet Paul Ryan at one of his town meetings. He has blinders on like more republicans! When he tells you that Obama took $716,000,0000,000 from Medicare to help Obamacare he doesn't tell you that his plan is to take that same amount of your health care away to pay off the deficit with no health care coverage!

Clearvoice,

What a sick mind and evil set you have of those around you. I will pray for you!

I believe the country is "right-of-center"

Many people do not want a "right-of-center" country, myself included. I support fiscal conservatism, although neither party currently demonstrates this (both spend just as much as the other), but I also support a more libertarian social policy. By that, I want less government in my personal life. That means completely removing religion from all politics, as religion is a personal issue, no government involvement in marriage, personal decisions, etc. To me, "right-of-center" means more government in my personal life, and leans dangerously close to a theocracy.

It wasn't until I got older and actually paid attention that I realized democrat policies hurt the middle class and poor

Neither party truly helps the poor, and you are a blind partisan hack if you believe otherwise. The GOP policies of trickle down have proven ineffective, and Liberal entitlements have not helped either. What we need is a policy that allows the middle class and poor to keep more of the money they earned, so that they have more disposable income to spend in businesses the rich own, thus giving the rich more money through the companies they own. The rich still get their money, but instead of getting it through tax cuts they get it through their companies.

In fact countries like Finland and Switzerland who have the most free market economies are the ones also doing the best when it comes to unemployment and money.

Those countries also have social policies that are completely at odds with the GOP. For example: Finland has health services provided by the State, this is free to anyone under 16 and all preventative care is free. From there, the authorities can charge an annual sum or a fee per visit.

They also provide unemployment allowances, maternity and paternity allowances, and only have public schools across all grades. Granted, there is no barrier for private schools to enter into competition, but very few have.

So, although they may have more free-market qualities, they also have a fair amount of "socialism" policies in place. I don't think you would agree with their approach.

clwyd; yup, we wear blinders. The better to NOT see you with. . .

Yipee-ki-ya M*^#@* F*&%*@

ItsAboutTime-3704531

Don't worry Obama will make noise while Iran finishes their nukes and blows Israel of the face of the earth. That way Obama didn't kill 7.7 million Jews the Iranians did it.

Obamas rules of war have had these results.

Afghanistan KIA
Americans killed in action under George Bush 2001 - 2008 970
Americans killed in action under Barack Obama 2009 to present 1,450

Obama is better then George Bush. In 3.5 years he has already spent more money then Bush did in 8 years.

Obamas greatest achievement has not getting into the White House. It was in 1995 when he forced banks into giving bad loans to unqualified home owners. It was called the CRA Lawsuit and was the main cause of the mortgage meltdown.

The CRA Lawsuit setup the right conditions for Obama to make it to the White House in 2008.

FYI All the economists say we are going back into a recession in 2013.

I'd say that really makes a strong argument for re-electing a community organizer instead of a financial genius.

Oct 1 one of the first parts of Obamacare began.

If you are treated at a hospital and show back up for more treatment in a couple days the hospital will be fined because you returned. That will make them happy to see you!

We just got our 2nd credit downgrade. I haven't see any of you liberals listing that great achievement.

Also China and Japan now refuses to loan us any more money. Now it's all being "borrowed" from the Federal Reserve. That means the printing presses are running full steam and it will soon be worthless.

$50 a loaf bread anyone???

The 47% are the ones with the most worries. Next year when Obama finally bankrupts America all the checks and freebies will stop.

Obama himself is the one screwing the 47% and they will find that out real soon and it will not be fun!

Vince Campillo

Kaybeetoys

You blame Bush because it was under his watch, but the reality is the downfall started under President Clinton. The Glass-Steagall Act was removed under Clinton and paved the way for the Sub Prime Division of the Banking Industry, THE SEED OF THE ECONOMIC DEMISE. Greed run amuck. They passed out loans like candy and ignored sound fundamental principles and we all know to well the outcome.

I'll concede that Clinton's administration had a hand in it too.

For the most part, the Market regulates itself although from time to time, world events and Government policy will have it's influence. The President doesn't have control over the Market, but he will get the credit one way or the other depending on the situation.

It's been four years now and you cite that the Market is up under Obama, which it is but not because of him, it's the Markets natural flow.

The stock market is cyclical, October historically being the month when the Dow falls to its lowest point. The recent rise in the market is one measure of the direction in which the economy has moved under Obama. The economy is not all doom and gloom as some would have us believe.

Just for the record, Romney is NOT the face of the wealthy. The top 3 wealthiest indivduals in America are Democrats, Gates, Buffett and Ellsion. Of the Top 20 on Forbes list, 60% are Democrats. Of the top 15 Politicians in Congress, 8 are Democrats with a Democrat heading the list, so this perception that Republicans are the EVIL RICH is not true, so think before you spew class warfare.

First, I have never claimed all rich Americans are 'evil'. Second, we are 34 days out from the presidential election and rich-boy Romney is one of the contenders. HE IS EVIL.

Romney is a lying, pandering, greedy man without a conscience or an ounce of compassion. He called his way of ruining companies and communities "creative destruction". Call it class warfare if you like. Romney is the one waging it, and he is losing.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

clwyd-2621393

Clearvoice,

What a sick mind and evil set you have of those around you. I will pray for you!

PRAY TO WHOM, SATAN? NO INFORMED CHRISTIAN IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA! HE HAS DEVELOPED A STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MOST MORALLY BANKRUPT SEGMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY IN A THINLY VEILED EFFORT TO BUY VOTES.

JUST WHEN I THOUGHT HE COULD SINK NO LOWER, HE APPOINTED THE "KING OF GAY PORNOGRAPHY" TO HIS REELECTION FINANCE COMMITTEE, PATTED HIM ON THE BACK AND SAID YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB! CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND GET ME SOME MONEY!

But I am confused: I thought last week Romney was down by 10% and might as well give up? Could opinion have changed that much? No, this is what happens when studies are manipulated to come out with a specific result.

We have lost an unbiased media years ago and now I don't take what ANY media says anymore and don't trust polls that are not taken with proper statistical methods. I guess we will have to wait for the election before we REALLY know what the result will be.

If Romney was President right now we would be at war again. Romney has put together many of the same Bush team and is backed by the same Bush people that created this mess. We lost face with many country's when we attacked Iraq and it was all on a lie. And now President Obama has worked to regain a relationship with our neighbors and many of you want to go back to the Bush days by voting for Romney? President obama has us heading in the right direction to putting people back to work but we must remember that it was the Republicans in the House that has kept you out of work by saying NO-No-No at the Presidents jobs bill. Obama/Biden 2012 and I still want to see Romneys 1040's and not a summary.

Logic requireed-

"You spread these lies but actually the Catholic church and other Christian churches are actively asking their members to vote for Romney because they disagree with the Obama mandate that requires faith based hospitals to cover things like the morning after pill which goes against their beliefs."

Really? I would like to know what exact churches you are referencing too, becuase a church that activily supports a candidate in and election, especially if by name, can, and will if proved, lose its tax exempt status in the US! So, please, prove your point, name the church specifically, and perhaps the quote....I am sure the federal defecit will go down, once that church or churches are no longer tax exempt. This information is available from the IRS public affair offices.

Now, a church can and do advocate a belief or agenda and that is fine and legal. so if a church says "When you vote, consider which canidate will be pro-life" is fine. If a church says "Vote for Mitt Romney, for he is Pro-life", well then that is another matter entirely. I, personally, support Churches in the right to advocate beliefs or comment on politcal ideas, as seen through their religeon, but am horrified when a church starts advocating specific candidates. In my opionion thats a big step closer to a theocracy. Imagine, if I, as a catholic, was told that I would be excommunicated for voting for a democrat. At that point our government would be basically the same as Iran's. I eagerly await your answer and specific proof.