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Subscribe to RSSASHEVILLE, NC -- Inadvertently touching off a fresh round of attacks over the efficacy of the president's economic policies, Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday that the middle class has been "buried over the last four years."
"How they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years!" Biden said of Republicans during a campaign event in Charlotte.
Republicans immediately jumped on the remark, with a Romney spokeswoman calling it a "stunning admission" of Barack Obama's failure to jump-start the economy during his tenure as president.
Related: Biden says middle class has been 'buried over the last four years'
Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan jumped in the fray during an event in Burlington Iowa, saying that "we need to stop digging by electing Mitt Romney the next President of the United States."
John Heilemann and Ruth Marcus join Andrea Mitchell Reports to debate whether voters can expect any memorable moments for Wednesday's upcoming presidential debate.
"Of course the middle class has been buried," Ryan agreed. "They are being buried by regulations, they are being buried by taxes…they are being buried by borrowing, they are being buried by the Obama Administration’s economic failures. You see the Obama economic agenda failed not because it was stopped, it failed because it was passed."
And GOP candidate Mitt Romney himself engaged on Twitter, writing on his official account that he "agree[s] with @JoeBiden, the middle class has been buried the last 4 years, which is why we need a change in November."
The Obama campaign said in a statement that the vice president was referring to the prolonged damage caused by Bush-era policies that led to the economic downturn.
"As the Vice President has been saying all year and again in his remarks today, the middle class was punished by the failed Bush policies that crashed our economy -- and a vote for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is a return to those failed policies."
Late this afternoon the Romney campaign added one more voice to the chorus of voices mocking the Vice President for his comments, putting fire-breathing surrogate John Sununu on a conference call with reporters.
"Today is a very important day in American history: Vice President Biden finally got something right when he made the admission that the middle class has been buried in the last four years under President Obama," Sununu began, before launching into a checklist of what he said were President Obama's economic failures.
Sununu conceded he did not believe that the attack on Biden's comments was likely to change voters' minds on its own, but said that it "sets the stage" for tomorrow's debate, which is designed to focus on domestic policy.
Garrett Haake contributed to this report
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But, But STIMULUS!!!??????
Cash for Clunkers? Payroll tax holiday?
Gosh all the awesome things O has tried over the last 4 years.
Why it's almost like every single one failed.
This story will be "buried" tomorrow.
pray tell. its a non issue right? Well back to Romney's tax returns.
Bali Bob - I believe you're absolutely right! And, if not, it will most certainly be buried after the first debate!
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There they go again!
Republicans complaining that the Democrats have not cleaned up Republicans' mess fast enough!
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Spanky -
But, But TAX CUTS for the wealthy?!?!?!?
Deregulation? Trickle-down?
Gosh all the awesome things Republicans have tried for the last 20 years.
Why they caused massive wealth inequality, BURIED the middle class, created huge deficits and led us into a major economic collapse......
....and Romney/Ryan wants to bring them back?
Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!
American Girl
This mess was made by both parties. You libbies scream that the republicans are responsible for everything going bad but fail to admit that the republicans NEVER had a majority like the democrats had. Then you scream that the republicans are blocking everything good from happening. Where were your liberal politicians when things were going bad? I'll give you a guess, they were in Congress voting on everything. Why didn't they stop it? I'll give you another guess, they're stupid. This country went to hell in 2008. Who owned Congress since 2007? But you blame Bush for everything up until 2009. So everything since 2009 belongs to Obama. Right?
TNSEVOL - Middle class BURIED in last 4 years. Doing pretty good up to 2007.
Bring them back? That assumes they went somewhere in the first place.
TO: Spanky- who wrote:
I presume you agreed with the GOP's plan to hold the American People back from any type of Economic Recovery so that Republicans could pretend it was all the President's fault, when it's been Republicans who've done nothing to "jump start" anything.
What have Republicans done to "jump start" our Economic Recovery? Absolutely nothing!
Obama/Biden 2012
The BBBLLLAAAAMMMMMMEEEEEE GGGAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEE !!!!!!!
Shirley, Shirley, ... Bo and Harry ..... banana fanna fo furly, me mi mo murly ..... SQUIRRELLY (Nancy) !
Aaahhh yessssss, yet another Hoof in Mouth award to Joe Biden ... the "gift" that just keeps on giving !!! But tomorrow, his major GAFFE will be totally ignored by the leftist media !!! I'll bet Obama would like to find a CLOSET for old Joe .... at least until after the elections !
Yes Obamacare has added 23 taxes, mostly eliminating medical deductions on the middle class, and Joe is talking about taxpayers being buried ! LOL !!
American Girl
What have the republicans done to jump start the economy? They took over the House in 2010 and put the brakes on the democrats and things are slowly turning around. After the shellacking gets finished in November you will see a major jump start.
1/20/2013 - the end of an error
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
Don't give that "both parties" crap! I was here and I saw with my own eyes, and heard with my own ears, exactly how George "Curveball" Bush and his Republican Administration drove the country into the ground!
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I wasn't aware that Obama was in office for a full four years. If I am not mistaken, it was about this time of the year, under Bushes watch, that things started to head downhill fast. I am not that forgetful, and I am sick of the games that politicians (Democrats and Republicans, anyway) are playing. They are supposed to be adults, working together, not children fighting over the ball.
American Girl
Too bad you only hear progressive/liberal words.
Wake up and get some news from different sources.
pj - Who controlled Congress in 2007? Where do spending bills start?
JH -
Really? By what measure? The Middle Class has been shrinking since Reagan. They managed to maintain a certain standard of living and consumption first by more two-earner households, then by borrowing against their homes, but that all came crashing down due to deregulation of the banking industry.
Really? If you listen to the Romney/Ryan Campaign they'd disagree with you on the "things are slowly turning around" bit.
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
WHAT have the Teagaggers done to turn things around, SPECIFICALLY?
I haven't seen them do anything at all, unless you call having the country's credit rating downgraded "a good thing" which it is NOT.
The Teagaggers have NOT created even ONE job, unless you count them getting as that No. 1 "thing".
Sometimes Republicans are so ill-informed I can't hardly stand to have a conversation with one.
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They put the brakes on the democrat spending. Can you read????
Typical lib, Lies with half quotes. If you're going to quote a person, quote the whole statement.
@American,
When the Tea Party came to Washington, compromise suddenly became a bad thing.
@JH,
"Politics is the art of compromise." Dunno who said that, but quoting the whole statement.
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
That's not it, I just know B.S. when I hear it!
I've actually heard plenty of "words" from Republicans, like, it was Iraq that attacked us on 9/11 (Dick Cheney); and
If you want to keep yourself "safe" from a dirty bomb "duct tape" yourself in your closet (Dick Cheney).
I've heard all kinds of dumb crap coming from Republicans.
Here's another one from Mitt Robme: Oh we have a wonderful economic plan, it's going to be "Top to Bottom". First, we give the people at the "Top" a 20% tax cut!
Republicans really like to play the American People for being stupid!
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American Girl - and my favorite from Mitt. "I'll give specifics after I'm elected. I can't tell you what loopholes I'll close because I have to discuss that with Congress." In other words - he has NO plan!
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TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
How did that help anything?
Why is the Republican "answer" to everything "starve the poor"? or "pilfer from the elderly"? or "pollute the air, poison the water, and contaminate the food supply?
How exactly does starving the poor, pilfering from the elderly, polluting our air, poisoning our water and contaminating our air HELP US?
I'd really like an explanation of why doing those harmful thing to the American People somehow "helps" us!
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TO: SeekingSanity who wrote:
Of course he doesn't, Mitt Robme has to get his instructions from Grover Nordquist BEFORE Mitt Robme can make any "plans" and these crazy Republicans are so obsessed with President Obama's skin color that they can't even do what's right for themselves!
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Don't start that B.S., does that mean the the Democrats can use that this year, too? The spending bills started with Bush, He is the one that started the bail-out measures and Obama continued them. I disagreed with the measure under both presidents. What is your point? Are you saying I must chose sides, when I agree with neither?
Bali Bob - "When the Tea Party came to Washington, compromise suddenly became a bad thing."
Actually when Obama became president compromise became a bad thing because of his policies... which is why Americans bought the Tea Party into Washington and threw Democrats out on the street.
It is what I have been saying with no response or defense from any of the progressives here. Obama constantly politics as if he and his party are the protectors and advocates of the poor, middle class and minorities. I ask each of you progressives and tell me how these groups have fared under the Obama economic policies of the last 4 years? Why is minority unemployment far higher than nonminority during this period? Why have the poor and middle class been economically disadvantaged unless you consider massive welfare to these groups as benefits, what has Obama's policies achieved? Stop blaming it on Bush or the GOP as if the Senate isnt controlled by the Democrats and as if he didnt have a 2 year mandate to pass his legislation and as if the national dialogue is all about the wealth redistribution policies of Obama. Maybe the concepts of self reliance, personal accountability and responsibility for one's choices in life do matter. Without blaming it on Bush, come on progressives explain to me how Obama's policies over the last 4 years have made these constituents better off?
If it were only that simple. The Tea Party and OWS have more in common with each other, and I bet could work better with each other than the Democrats and Republicans. Learn from both parties, not what the media feeds you.
Paul Ryan is so lame.......
If the Democrats have buried the middle class like Ryan asserts....Republicans have imploded, and decimated the middle class with deregulation of Banks protecting Investors, Congressional Gridlock stopping Jobsb Bills, Fillibusters to halt Bills abolishing Coporate Job outsourcing tax credits for Coporations, and Coporate tax cuts costing over $8 trillion in the last 12 years. And to top it off.....Paul Ryan is proposing another unfunded $5 trillion coporate tax cut for Millionaires/Billionaires middle class America would have to fund through his lying "teeth" proclaiming it as deficit neutral .......If tax cuts were deficit neutral....we'd have ZERO deficit now from the 2001 coporate tax cuts.....
This guy is a Bozo...............
@pj,
The Republican Leadership decided on day one not to work with this President because of the obstinacy (and perceived power) of the Tea Party... even if an issue that was proposed by Obama was one that they had previously supported (or even proposed).
Party before Country. Treasonous in my opinion.
That being said, I will agree with you on your last point. If the Tea Party and OWS could find each other we might have something like a much-needed Third Party.
Mr. Doughhead strikes again
I think that the stimulus from the government and the Fed is what has kept the economy from sliding into a full blown depression. People should be complaining not that these things have failed but that they have all been done by borrowing tons of money or, in the case of the Fed, creating currency out of thin air. I would have been all for the the stimulus if we weren't all ready engaged in huge deficit spending. Our economy grows weaker in the long term with every attempt to strengthen it in the short term.
i guess ole joe can tell the truth! my ? is how many obama staffers are on these sites? i have a hard time believing people actually fall for all mr obamas bs! smoke and mirrors but the curtain is falling down.
pjam ...
Are you kidding me???? The Tea Party has so damaged the GOP that your party is NO PARTY! You can't even look at your ex-President or Jon Huntsman in the eye. Heck, even Christie went all rogue on you this weekend by straying off the talking points of R&R! You deserve Michelle and Sarah. They did SOOOO much good for this country and your party .... NOT!!!
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Mitt Romney's Bain Capital Bailout: GOP Candidate's Firm Profited From Company That Required $44 Million Federal Bailout
First Posted: 01/06/2012 9:20 am Updated: 01/06/2012 9:31 am
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Funky little list, Spanky. I'd been trying to compose one myself regarding the list of "accomplishments" that the House Teapublicans brought to the table in the past two years. But, low and behold, I couldn't think of one damned thing those tax-sucking losers proposed.
Better to try something, then sit on your duff and do nothing, and whine incessantly, i.e. the Teapublicans. Vote out all the bums next month!
Obama/Biden 2012!
That's not it, I just know B.S. when I hear it!
Cheney , never said that. I call BS on you !
Except of course for that tiny bit of time prior to 2008 (about 17 years). And your solution is to put Neo-conservatives back behind the wheel. Did you somehow miss the 30 years we've been dealing with trickle-down economics? Incredible...you turn the economy upside down for 30 years so only the top 10% make money; Take a budget surplus, start 2 unfunded wars (off the books), provide pharmaceutical companies with a multi billion dollar giveaway Medicare Part D (unfunded), and give millionaires and billionares a tax cut (while waging 2 unfunded wars). Then you disassociate yourselves from the people responsible (oh, Bush wasn't really a conservative). When the next administration attempts to stimulate the economy (for all Americans), you pride yourselves in saying NO! Then you expect us elect a man who hired Bush's neo-conservative advisers. And finally you want us to share the blame with you...amazing!
I see your BS and raise you a full BS!
"Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq, and he said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible."
http://open.salon.com/blog/je_robertson/2009/06/02/cheney_admits_to_lying_about_iraq-911_connection_sort_of
pjam09 - " Actually when Obama became president compromise became a bad thing because of his policies... which is why Americans bought the Tea Party into Washington and threw Democrats out on the street."
It would not have mattered what Obama's policies had been, there would have been no compromise. Many of the proposals he made were Republican policies that even his own opponent, John McCain, and other conservatives had proposed or supported a short time before. They refused to even consider them because Obama was for them. It's not about the policies.
OK, Doc . I stand corrected. I had a Joe Biden moment maybe. Still you lib,s really need to buy a Globe. Saddam was not one of our friends and were safer with him out of the picture. Oh and for some strange reason the bad guys really want us to leave.
Put down the keyboard, use your good arm and dial 911.
1. Saddam was most assuredly a friend...until he wasn't. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/02/15/cheney-goes-for-the-gold-in-spinning-the-iraq-war/ (oh, by the way. The photo of Cheney and Saddam shaking hands is when Cheney was making a deal to provide Saddam with the chemicals he used to kill Kurds).
2. No, actually we're not safer with him out of the picture.
a. Saddam hated al Qaeda, they were threatening him.
b. The Iraqi Ba'ath Party hated the Iranians, so much they fought them for 10 years.
c. Iraq under Saddam acted as a buffer between Iran and Israel (that's why the Texas Village Idiot's father left them in tact after the Gulf War).
d. Iraq is now closer with Iran than they are with us. That doesn't make us or Israel safer.
Any other strange claims you'd like to make?
"I'll give you the specifics after I'm elected" works just as well as "You have to pass the healthcare bill to find out what's in it".
Well, just ask yourself this:
Would there be any need for a recovery were it not for what we all lovingly call the "Bush Recession"?
Bush started his two terms with 4.0% unemployment. What did he leave with?
Who, in the two hundred years of this country's history, has managed to turn such a low rate of unemployment into an economic disaster? I'll give you time to search...
No one else! George W. Bush managed to turn a success into an unequaled disaster! Now, I know Republicans would rather ignore the fact that Bush ever happened. In fact, they wish that he never happened. Well, here's a little secret: so does the majority of American voters! Republicans will pay for a loooong time for putting that idiot in the presidential seat! So all you Republicans go ahead and blame Obama for not being able to clean up Bush's mess fast enough. The truth is, Republicans are to blame for putting that idiot in charge to begin with.
We would not need a recovery were it not for Bush! We would not have this economic crisis were it not for an idiotic Republican president and 6 years out of 8 of Republican Congress to rubber-stamp his stupid policies! This is what Romney fights! And this is what will defeat Romney!
They did more than that! Check out this graph!
Note how, by the beginning of 2010, we were actually recovering from the "Bush Recession". Almost 4% growth of GDP and the promise of recovery! But we all know what happened in 2010, don't we? By the end of 2010, after the news of who would take over the HR, growth had slowed/stopped/reversed and we had GDP growth of 0.4%! It has never again recovered to the 3.8% we were seeing in the beginning of 2010. You want more of that? Make sure you vote Republican to get more of that!
You want what we had in the beginning of 2010? 3.8 to 3.9% GDP growth and a growing America? Vote a straight Democratic ticket!
American Girl :
You cannot possibly believe all that anti-GOP trash you are spewing. You must be getting all that garbage from the Demoncratic Slime Pit and the "What To Say When You Can't Think Of Anything Else" booklet put out by the DNC pig sloppers. That, or you have one heck of a twisted brain.. using half truths and outright lies!!! Settle down before your tongue or fingers rot off and you lips explode. Wow!!
"The photo of Cheney and Saddam shaking hands is when Cheney was making a deal to provide Saddam with the chemicals he used to kill Kurds)."
That would be Rumsfield not Cheney
"No, actually we're not safer with him out of the picture"
Not true, ask anyone that served in the 90's why were stayed in Kuwait?
"Saddam hated al Qaeda, they were threatening him"
Don't know, but they were sure there when I paid a visit there
"Iraq under Saddam acted as a buffer between Iran and Israel (that's why the Texas Village Idiot's father left them in tact after the Gulf War)."
That makes no sense at all. Gulf War I stopped because that wasn't the mission, it was to free Kuwait.
"Iraq is now closer with Iran than they are with us. That doesn't make us or Israel safer"
That's the only thing your correct on.
By the way, why would our government blame a YouTube video instead of a terrorist attack in Libya?
Toejam... your theory is just assinine. Your side immediately made it a goal to never pass anything O wanted. You know (and facts back it up), that your side even voted against bills THEY sponsored... All in the name of not giving O a win. When the minority leader says during O's first year that his only goal in life was to make sure O was a one term president... that speaks volumes.
JH and others... you guys LOVE to claim we had the majority.. We never ever had a super majority. We still had to get the independents votes and unlike Bush who had his minions vote lock step on every vote, our party doesn't always do that.. They vote for what is best for their constituents... Gee what a novel idea... So you can stop the "you had a majority" crap and move on to something with teeth.
... anyone that votes Democrat, is voting for all out communism and nationalism of our remaining industry. The Democrats are going to destroy this country and capitalism with their policies..., then say "it didn't work" or "it was Bush's fault"; destroying what the founding fathers and generations of Americans fought and died to protect, our freedom. They will bankrupt the country, and kill free enterprise and entrepreneurship; the writing is already on the wall, and in the President's hand-writing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUL152yGVGI
It would be nice if everyone spoke English instead of tongue. "I like Michigan because the trees are all the right height?" How can anyone ever top that? I know, "I like firing those that work for me." The middle class being buried is just what the Republican Party would love to do to the 98% of us.
Got that, democrats? Y'all are communists out to destroy this country and kill free enterprise.
Anybody convinced? Anybody change their minds? No? Anybody think that's a legitimate subject for rational debate? Anybody without foam coming from their mouths? No?
Oh well. I'm sure there's a good reason why you posted.
I am saddened by the abuse of the left claiming that anyone that is not for Obama must be a racist. I do not know if any of them have ever heard of the story about the boy that cried wolf, but taking something as important as prejudice and using it as a political cannon cheapens it until people will no longer look at it as something that is truly shameful but rather as nothing more then a name you call someone that does not agree with you ideology, and then when racism does truly raise it's ugly head no one will listen because you have cried this out so much that you have taken away the sting of the word. I think the people that have sacrificed their lives to push equality and a world free from racism are turning in their graves because you have weakened their sacrifice and threw them away to get political points. Shame on you.
Can we stop this silly nonsense and look at the merits of the candidate and then have a true debate not throwing around things that have no merit or truth in them!
Biden is the true face of the libtards on these vines.
First, he just continues to repeat Obama's BS talking points.
Second, he has no problem lying his face off, just like his messiah Obama.
Third, he has his head so far up Obama's arse he can't see what a disaster Obama is.
Fourth, he is dumb as a rock.
Wow. Near the end of a full 4 year term in office with 2 years of it and the 2 years previous having super Democrat majorities in the Senate and House and the best Democrats can do about the current economic conditions of the country is blame Bush.
I'm going to assume all the additional taxes in Obamacare are Bush's fault as well.
Still one more boneheaded remark from Biden that Obama has to put a spin on by saying; oh he really meant this… People are beginning to wonder exactly who Biden is campaigning for.
You're absolutely right. It's so easy to get the two confused...neo-cons are all pretty much the same.
OK, I just asked myself and the answer is, we're still in Kuwait because we want a footprint in the middle-east...period. That really has nothing to do with Saddam. You may still able to google "Project for a New American Century". That will give you your answer.
Of course they were...who is their enemy...oh yes...US!
Really? You honestly believe that? Unless you have 4 stars on your collar, you stopped because you were ordered to stop. Nothing is ever decided "because that isn't the mission". Ask yourself why we stopped when we had broken but not destroyed the Republican Guard. There are several reasons we stopped: 1) Bush the Elder understood that Iraq would be a quagmire with no good way out. 2) Iran would have to transit across the middle of Iraq (Indian Country) to get to Israel. 3) As proven by Clinton, Iraq could be contained more easily than Iran. Remember, at that time al Qaeda was not a concern.
"Iraq is now closer with Iran than they are with us. That doesn't make us or Israel safer"
No, actually except for the Cheney/Rumsfield comment, it was all correct.
You tell me. The last I heard the jury was still out but they were leaning that direction. By the way, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Way to go Kirk. You ruined the whole forum by stating facts that can't be disputed and by asking questions that can't be answered unless you admit this administration has been a failure.
TO: retiredcoastguard who wrote:
"[I've actually heard plenty of "words" from Republicans, like, it was Iraq that attacked us on 9/11 (Dick Cheney)]
Oh yes he did.
Gloryhound: Democrats had a majority in the House, not a supermajority. They did not have a majority in the Senate, because the republicans challenged the Franken election for a year and a half. The dems had an actual majority in the Senate for only 4 months. During that time they got Obamacare through, not much time for anything else.
The Great Recession happened on Bush's watch. Just the way it is, sorry. Would rather not go back to trickle-down, if you don't mind.
Gloryhound has made this remark numerous times on other posts... .obviously a political troll who never accepts the fact he is telling a lie when he says the Dems had a super majority. He refuses to actually state the number of Dems of our so called super majority. But why let a few facts get in the way of a good rant.
No dummy Ryan - the middle class is being buried by the Republican obstructionists who keep the economy from a full recovery!
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I remember not too long ago, the right wing nitwits around here, were bragging they could run a "ham sandwich" against the President and win...
They should of struck with the pious bologna!
ABO and they came up with Mitt and Ryan, LOL.
Feisty - hi Friend! I believe a ham sandwich would be a step up from Mitt and Paulie!
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SeekingSanity
No Dummy SS - Uncle Joe just made another big gaf, however he is telling the truth this time. Obama is killing the middle class.
Not to that extent. Obama disappointed me, but I would rather see 4 more years of him trying something different than give the reigns back to the people who got us in trouble in the first place (and using the same old tried and failed policies.) Honestly, I wish more people would consider Gary Johnson. I wish more people would consider any other political party. I wish people would take the time to understand what is going on rather than rely on soundbites and opinions from media personalities.
Yes, he is telling the truth, now follow the time-line and quit being such a party loyalist.
smitty - yes every President that has had to work with the opposing party has had to compromise. However, at no other time in our recent history has the opposing party met and vowed to do whatever they had to in order to make him a one-term President. They put aside the good of the country for the pettiness of the party. They have been treasonous and have prohibited a better recovery. Even Scarborough admitted that.
You so hate the President that the truth has no place with you. Typical sad and disgusting Republican!
pj-965429 - thanks for the back-up!
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Good job Biden, nice to see a Democrat be honest about what Obama has done for once.
P.S.
"The Obama campaign said in a statement that the vice president was referring to the prolonged damage caused by Bush-era policies"
HaHa. The finger pointing never ends.
joe bull*@#t got is right, for once..
obama's policies the last 4 years has buried the middle class and obamacare will finish the job!
OH NOES!
Not another tape... lmao
It was only a matter of time;
Romney's estimate, famously, is 47 percent. For Ryan, it's 30 percent.
Is it a good time to point out how much congress bastardized "Obama-care"? No, it should not have passed in its current form. Every single congressman/woman should have known exactly what was in that bill before they voted on it. This bill should NOT be over 2,000 pages, it should be no longer than 100 pages. It is not the President (whomever it is at the time) that we need to rein in, it is congress. We need to cut the PORK, we need to cut the Bi-Partisan bickering, and we need them to concentrate on efforts to return us to a stong middle class. Our economy depends on a strong middle class, not a strong wealthy class and not a strong welfare class.
Feisty: did you see that Mittens solution to health care is to repeal the ACA and replace it with high deductible plans so Americans wind up paying more out of pocket for things like physicals?
I missed that NDD!
Last I heard out of Willard was people should go to the ER! Even though it's the highest cost possible.
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how many ER's treat chronic illnesses like, cancer, diabetes, MS etc!
It's really despicable, Feisty, and so cynical. He and his buddies wind up with tax sheltered medical spending accounts, that Mittens thinks that the working poor can some how afford.
Benefit, say it with me, to Mittens and his buddies. Screwed once again? Everyone else.
NDD,
Typical RWNJ mentality - I got MINE, f*ck you!
Mitt Romney's Bain Capital Bailout: GOP Candidate's Firm Profited From Company That Required $44 Million Federal Bailout
First Posted: 01/06/2012 9:20 am Updated: 01/06/2012 9:31 am
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I can only shake my head at this if only Feisty and NDD understood irony at all
wow i thought trolling was a myth, but you people really do troll these political sites.some of you posting over 5 times on every story defending their position. this many closed minded people and you bitch that the goverment can not work togather?well i can see why, you do not vote for the person,you vote for the D or R by their name.all your minds are made up so what is the point but my daughter is doing a school paper on site trolling so thanks,with this much she is sure to get an A.
No, they haven't all had issues with the opposition party (if you call McConnell's declaration that the highest priority was to make Obama a one term president a simple issue).
Not sure how long you've been alive but I don't remember a President getting as much resistance to compromise as Obama has from the "loyal opposition", and that goes back as far as Eisenhower for me. As to what most presidents do...most try to get a majority of their party elected in the mid terms.
Is that your actual belief (short and ineffective data retention capability) or were you in a coma for the first 2 -1/2 years of the Obama Presidency? Obie? Well I guess you don't mind my referring to GW Bush as the Texas Village Idiot.
The last president that had problems like these to work through from the former president was a guy by the name of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, so don't even bother with that disingenuous talking point. By the way...the really lame ones start wars with sovereign nations so they can be a "war time president" like their daddy and hide behind being the "Commander in Chief" to get their agenda passed.
Well, let me think... I recall a time when Obama compromised to get a $4T reduction over 10 years. I recall that he compromised to the point that he promised reduction and reform in Medicare and SS; very unpopular with his party. I also recall that Republicans walked away and led this country to the brink of default and caused a downgrade in the US credit rating for stupid party politics.
Yeah, I want more of that [sarcasm]! That's why I am voting a straight Democratic ticket this fall!
I find it amazing how some of you listen without looking at facts to both parties propaganda services, all the news channels, and are either to stupid or too lazy to actually look for facts. To claim the republicans are obstructionist is flat out wrong, and further to blame them for no budget is equally wrong.
During the first two years of Obama's administration officials have come out and admitted that instead of working with the other party they did not consult them or even try to work with them (other then Obama calling them once to the White House to lecture them on following his lead), and then when the White House lost their super majority they still were not willing to work with them or to compromised in any way, and finally when they needed to work with them they sat back and wondered why they would not come with arms open. Well Mr. President, when you treat people like sh*t they are going to be less apt to want to work with you, when you call a creator of a budget to a white house press conference that then dress him out on national news why would you think he would be willing to work with you? This White house has brought these problems on them selves and then like every thing else they are incapable of accepting responsibility and instead do what they have done from day one, blame everyone else for what they are lacking.
As for the budgets Obama and Boehner had a deal worked out for the budget but at the last second after Boehner had compromised again and again Obama threw in a huge tax increase, Boehner felt insulted since Obama had already told him they had a deal and he walked out. So who is to blame for this, Boehner who had compromised to the point he was going to anger his own constituents or Obama when he had a deal but on the last second pushed Boehmer over the edge because he could not stick to his agreement? Then to blame the republicans for no budget in nothing but a lie, multiple times each year the GOP has presented a budget, while the Democrats have presented non, the only thing that came from them were the yearly budget requests from the White House, and these budgets could not even get one democrat vote. So who is truly the victim here and who is the one that have not produced budgets or even tried to find common grounds? I think you have been passed some bad information and rather then research it you took it as gospel and ran with it!
Tbenton,
I find it interesting how quickly you went from chiding others for listening to propaganda services to reciting the propaganda from one side while pretending it was actual fact. The NYTimes did an in depth piece on what happened during the budget negotiations. The version you present is GOP one that the NY Times states is not true. While both sides were partially at fault Obama didn't change the finalized deal at the last minute.
SHOCKING!
Like anyone with an IQ higher than a cabbage believes anything this certified serial liar has to say!
The little douche-bag can't even be honest about his one and ONLY marathon time!
If someone is willing to lie about something so inconsequential, imagine what else they're willing to bull@!$%# about!
Great example he is setting for his kids!
The Middle Class has been buried in a hole dug by the policies of GW Bush, all of which Ryan voted for.
Now he wants to shovel dirt on top of them with his "marvelous" budget plan that would destroy the safety net for the poor, raise taxes on the middle class, and leave our future seniors holding a Ryan Medicare Coupon.
Paul Ryan - The Deficit? I Built That!
Ryan got it right..
he will bury this idiot in the debates..
the plagiarist doesn't know which side is up..
he is utterly clueless..
just like the rest of the obamabots and bidenites..
what a joke of a vp!
Joe may be wearing "Crocs" ...... because what comes out of his mouth is a Croc !
The way I figure it, the people who are writing negative comments about President Obama must either be wealthy, related to Republicans who hold some office, prejudice, blind, die hard republican no matter who runs, or just plain dumb. President Obama has done his very best to change the world's preception of the United States after the mess Bush put us in by attacking Iraq. He has tackled a financial meltdown by involving some of the best minds to bring the downward mess to a stop. And the Republican House has said NO to almost everything including the President's jobs bill. So people couldn't go to work because of the Republicans saying NO-No-No-NO to what he wanted to do. So you people who keep bad mouthing President Obama make me sick.
I will vote straight Democratic Ticket, and by the way the voter ID law was shot down for now in Pennsylvania. OBAMA/BIDEN+++++ALL DEMOCRATS 2012
Michael,
Exactly!!! I am still waiting to see one of the negative posters about the President write one thing .. JUST one that they support about the R&R ticket. They can't because their entire platform is ABO!
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@Layton #3.8,
Republicans WILL have a BUDGET passed ! A budget is a financial plan, and when our country is $16 trillion in debt (and rising rapidly uner Obama) ... having a PLAN IS A GOOD THING !!!
Obama has NO BUDGET, NO PLAN and NO CLUE !!!
Layton like Mickey is lying. Chosing to close your eyes and read does not EQUAL reality. Layton I have told you why I support the R&R ticket.
You're probably too young (infantile?) to remember Spiro Agnew, Nixon's loser criminal VP. OR, George H.W. Bush's Dan Quayle? Boy, what a firecracker that idiot was (is). AND, the last administration had a VP that, in any other country, would be in prison or hung.
Recent history has it that the Reps rule in the realm of questionable VPs (certainly to match the loser Presidents they had sworn loyalty to. Or, in the case of W, who sworn allegiance to his VP).
Biden has a long and distinguished history as a very knowledgeable and honorable member of the US Senate. Comparing VP Biden to a House Rep flash-in-the-pan sellout to special interests (and special needs teabaggers) is like comparing this outstanding President to an etch-a-sketch flip-flopper (guess who?).
Aww...isn't that cute..."caesar" attempting to be relevant. And it's always the liars calling someone else a liar, right Chris?
Strive for adequacy, little fella. And remember, "ABO" Chris..."ABO"...
On a lighter note, what's with you slumming more than half-way down a thread? I thought only that "job creator" Spanky did that.
You must be losing your touch, Little Seizure...but have no fear. Sooner or later you'll realize that your "opinions", like Spankys, have been wrong all along.
So, whyizzit again you're voting Ryan/Romney? They have you convinced that they're "just like you", right?
Oh, wait...I forgot..."ABO"...
PIZZA! PIZZA!
You know Smitty...that's funny. By the way, haven't been keeping up with current events in your own party have you? Carl Rove has abandoned Romney/Ryan. Yep "Bush's Brain" has pulled his funding from the Romney/Ryan campaign to concentrate on taking back the Senate.
You tools just don't get it do you...you're being played. The real players are the folks you've been trained to deflect from every time their names are brought up...like Charles Koch, and Carl Rove. That's where the only real power in the Republican party is. You think Grover Norquist and Americans for Tax Reform have power? Where do you think Grover Norquist get's his funding? He's a tool like you are...except that you come much cheaper.
After this election there will be two subgroups left standing within the Republican Party...the Neo-conservatives and the Tea Party. Just like the moderate Republicans (Bob Dole, Olympia Snow types), the Teabaggers will either get in line or be crushed by the Neo-cons...who do you think the corporations are backing? ...there is no more Republican Party...gone.
Hey Mickey, nah we established relevancy earlier and we figured you're the weakest link.
noway dude, Thats O member. Midas and all. right mickey this is the golden age. age of aquarius huh?
Im sure Mickey, Im sure but like i said in the next thread, clairvoyance aint your thing. You just dont have the Force in you.
no way Mickey none of these politicians are like you and I. dont be so obtuse. however you will still think Obama is great because he is snake charmer. Thanks for showing me the way with your 'extensive knowledge, education and experience'. Its always my pleasure
I like bantering with you Mickey. In the end my friend, it dont matter. on a truly serious note, Im not 'Chris'. Thats just not my name.
jim-1455434 ...
And that will magically happen how? Because all of a sudden the TP fairy dust will be waived over their heads and they will care about this country??? The GOP can't seem to do anything except for denounce, deny, and cry foul. I'm calling BS on that ... Mittens is NOT a leader and doesn't know what a budget is. He's on record stating he doesn't know what's in his blind trust for he!!sakes!
Caesar. You have. So you get to be the one that doesn't need to tell me. Then again, you're kind of harmless and a regular. Getting pounced on by a lot that haven't. Just want them to think about something other than hatred.
Obama/Biden 2012
Ryan hates our national debt! Ryan wants our national debt to get smaller!
Then, tell me, why did Ryan vote for every increase of the national debt limit under Bush? Bush started with $5.6T in debt and ended his last budget year with $11.9T in debt. More than double! Why did Ryan vote 7X to increase the national debt under Bush if he hates that debt so much?
Republicans love to throw out that $16T number. But they ignore where most of it came from.
George W. Bush started with $5.6T in national debt At the end of his last budget year, the national debt was $11.9T. That's an addition of $6.1T!! George W. Bush, aided and abetted by Republican majorities in both houses of Congress for 6 out of 8 years, more than doubled our national debt in 8 years.
Obama has added about $4.2T in his first term.
A little quick math will show that the last Republican administration was responsible for 40% of that $16T in debt. Obama is responsible for about 25% of it. The very same Republicans that howl sooo loudly about our increasing national debt now, the same people who led our country to the brink of default with political grandstanding over raising the debt limit, all voted no less than 7X to increase the national debt limit under Bush with nary a whimper. Where was their outrage then?
And now we are supposed to believe that Republicans will be more fiscally responsible? History tells us different! This is the big lie in Republican politics now. There are lots of little lies, but the issue of fiscal responsibility is the BIG lie in Republican politics this election!
Figures lie and LIARS figure ... it apparently applies to you ! When Obama took office, the national debt was $10.8 trillion so he has increased it over $5.2 trillion in under 4 years ... all WITHOUT A BUDGET !!!
Better stick to engineering ... because you obviously do not understand accounting !
God I love it when neo-conservatives eat their own.
The middle class is "buried" paying for the 8 years of Republican Leadership
So you are admitting Obama is incapable of accomplishing anything ?
Wow ! We need leadership in the White House, not the WHINER Obama who will not take responsibility for anything other than running around in circles saying "I got Bin Laden", "I got Bin Laden", "I got Bin Laden", "I got Bin Laden" .....
obama's "osama"s" are not yet done with oblamo and this country..
go ahead..spike the ball!
In less than 3 years. Your Texas Village Idiot couldn't get him in 6 years. And yet you would have us elect a man that hired the Texas Village Idiot's neo-conservative advisers...weird.
Don't forget how household median income has dropped 8.2% and cost of living continues to increase.
kicking ass for the middle class.
Why aren't you thanking George W. Bush for that? He inherited 4.0% unemployment and left office with 7.8% unemployment, rising faster than Halliburton's profits. That drop in median income all happened at the end of 2008 before Obama ever took office. Why aren't you blaming Bush?
Oh, I know, you can't blame Bush! No matter how much it actually might be his fault! All you Republicans really wish that Bush had never happened! Well, here's a little secret - so do the American people! I think the Republican party will suffer a loooong time for putting that idiot in charge!
I'm not blaming Bush, because it dropped 8.2% under Obama. From Jan 2009-present.
p.s EE
I'm not a republican.
Thomas: Read up on your history books. Last 2 years of Bush was Democrat Congress. 1st 2 years of Obama Democrat Congress. The current situation is 2/3 of Washington is controlled by Democrats. Hello, Demcrat Pres. and Democrat Senate. If you're wondering why we're in such a mess look to the Democrats especially "Do-Nothing" Harry Reid and President "Campaigner in Chief" Obama.
Oh, I see, this was all a Democratic problem, eh? Let's look at a few facts:
From a report by the Cato Institute
It is a conspiracy, I tell you! Newsvine punted most of my post! (I am kidding!)
Oh, I see, this was all a Democratic problem, eh? Let's look at a few facts:
From a report by the Cato Institute:
Alphonso Jackson was named a deputy secretary at HUD a few months into President George W. Bush's first term. He became the acting secretary in late 2003, and permanent secretary in April 2004.
It was under Secretary Jackson that HUD decided in 2004 to increase Fannie and Freddie's "affordable" housing goals while allowing the financial giants to continue the Clinton-era policy of counting subprime mortgages as credit toward meeting that goal. Despite Fannie's 81-percent increase in lending to minority families in 2003, Jackson chastised the organization for its "failure to lead." Jackson's pressure on the GSEs came despite the fact that regulators were growing increasingly concerned with subprime lending. The Washington Post found that "housing experts and some congressional leaders now view those decisions as mistakes that contributed to an escalation of subprime lending that is roiling the U.S. economy."
From the bipartisan Congressional report by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on the subprime mortgage crisis released in 2009 (summary here):
Lower down-payments led to housing prices that outpaced income growth: Once government-sponsored efforts to decrease down payments spread to the wider market, home prices became increasingly untethered from any kind of demand limited by borrowers’ ability to pay. Instead, borrowers could just make smaller down payments and take on higher debt, allowing home prices to continue their unrestrained rise. (p. 11)
The Government Sponsored Enterprises led the way into the housing crisis: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were leaders in risky mortgage lending. According to an analysis presented to the Committee, between 2002 and 2007, Fannie and Freddie purchased $1.9 trillion of mortgages made to borrowers with credit scores below 660, one of the definitions of “subprime” used by federal banking regulators. This represents over 54% of all such mortgages purchased during those years. (p.24)
No, Democrats had nothing to do with it. This was a Republican housing bubble and a Republican recession!
Blame it on Newsvine ... it couldn't possibly be your fault ! LOL !! You and Obama are two peas in a pod ... screw things up and blame someone else !
George Bush repeatedly, I repeat "REPEATEDLY" questioned the financial stability of Fannie and Freddie but Bawney Fwank quickly said everything was FINE because he didn't want his boyfriend to lose his job.
EEngineer, you are full of $h!t.
You are citing a phony "report" issued by the Democrats in 2009 to try to blame the sub-prime mortgage mess (which is what REALLY caused the economy to collapse) on the Republicans.
Try doing a little research on the COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT signed in 1977 by JIMMY CARTER after it was passed by the DEMOCRATIC MAJORITIES in both the House and the Senate.
Then, you might do a little reading on the numerous class-action lawsuits filed during the '90s, that were BASED on the CRI, in order to coerce banks into give mortgages to unqualified applicants. Pay particular attention to the LANDMARK 1995 lawsuit against Citibank in which the lead plaintiff was represented by none other than BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!
Finally, you might try reading this from the Liberal "icon", the NEW YORK TIMES in 1999:
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html
All of these were DEMOCRATIC intitiatives undertaken despite repeated warnings of the damage they would inflict on the economy.
It is very evident that Romney/Ryan do not get it. You throw them a bone and they chase it. It is unfortunate that they do not understand the message.
You mean the message from Obama, Hope & Change
Joe Biden said in very explicit terms that the middle class has been buried these last 4 years. During the last 4 years, he has been VP and Obama has been POTUS. It's quite obvious that they are to blame.
Romney/Ryan 2012
See, these poor folks can't even count or add - no wonder they think Romney is so great.
Isn't that so CUTE? The Republican administrations Reagan, Bush and Bush junior have seen the middle class as their whipping boy, they and certainly the recent Republican Congress have been RAPING THE middle class every possible way, and they want to make it President Obama's fault?
Yeah. Delusions. Ryan doesn't need to be VP, he needs mental health treatment.
What's even funnier is watching Ryan/Romney chase EVERY little thing they can to see if they can reverse their slide.
Queen Ann wants to wave from the White House balcony. Romney is going to be punished if he doesn't buy it for her.
No plans, no ideas, Ryan/Romney, bad for America!
Agree, NewDay. The GOP did bury the middle class and the Obama administration has spent the past 4 years trying to dig us out with NO HELP from the GOP. The people who were willing to let the economy fail in order to prevent the re-election of President Obama. From their first planning meeting on the night of the President's inauguration to their voting against a Veterans' Jobs Bill last week, the GOP has shown its contempt for the middle class at every opportunity.
The problem Mittens has is that the American electorate is completely aware of who has been voting against them, SF. When the Republican Congress voted against unemployment benefit extensions, for example, having never done that before, the middle class took note.
The problem is lefties like you will not admit when Joe Biden has unleashed his poop, stepped in it, and accidentally spoken the truth for a change.
Your natural reaction is to try and twist Biden's blunder into an attack on Romney !
The problem you righties have is you will not admit when your Vice President is right. That the Republican Congress has unleased "poop" against the American people, and they are no longer willing to step in it.
Your natural reaction is to try to twist truth into an attack against your President.
What are you jimmy, a 10 year old?
OldDayYawning ... oohh, you are so cute with your copycat, parallel structure remarks .... did your mommy help you with your reply ???????
Not too many 10 year olds have twenty-year old sons genius ... but it would require you actually KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT to understand something like that ... and we know you babble frequently.
Speaking of babbling...
Yep, poor jimmy, all babbling all the time. Now. Leave mommy's basement and go out and play.
jim-1455434 ....
And "there you go again!" When you've NOTHING relevant to say, pick on a poster. Actually, you are so sticking with your R&R boys! When all else fails, bully, name call, and just plain ol' make crap up.
6.3 & 6.5 - such rallying provocative thoughts for your candidates!!!!! SO impressed!
Obama/Biden 2012
During his entire tenure in the oval office, median household income has declined by 8.2%.
@Layton the leftie in #6.8 .... apparently you cannot read very well !
Your pal tried to imply I was 10 in #6.4 .... but that little tidbit of "attempted putdown" just went ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM right over your head !
The rest of your post is simply a further attempt to lie. No bullying, just stating an OPINION which seems to cause a diarrhea-like reaction if it does not coincide with your opinion. Biden is a buffoon, and you guys OWN him !
Ryan. What a freakin worm
Ryan has passed a budget. Biden only passes GAS !
Obama. What a freakin failure.... so much so that even his V.P. can't suppress it.
What budget did Ryan pass?
Go to the Senate chambers, find Harry Reid, put your hands under his BUTT (yes, I know it will be gross) and physically lift up his a$$ ! Underneath it, you will find a WHOLE BUNCH of bills passed by the House and a BUDGET (or two) passed by the House. Ryan has been THE leader in House-passed BUDGET legislation !
But I guess you will have to actually move old Harry's nasty butt to see what he has been sitting upon.
There is no winning for the GOP.
Heck, they determined Romney was the throwaway candidate since 2006.
If the GOP was serious, they would have drafted Jeb.
If the GOP was serious, they would have given us the real John McCain in 2000. Thank you South Carolina Republicans and Karl Rove for the despicable lie about the McCain's adopted daughter.
That was a TRUE piece of election trashiness. Ranks up there with the flyers in Dallas when President Kennedy was shot.
http://www.jfk.org/go/collections/item-detail?fedoraid=sfm:1999.023.0017
Matthew - just shows there have been right wingnuts with their lies and hatred hurting this country forever. Stunning, tho, that their numbers have increased exponentially. Frightening.
Biden has to be the most idiotic VP in the history of America....Great lets start talking about ryans marathon times instead of Bummers failures as American President......
I seem to recall an idiot named Quayle. Oh, sorry to bring actual history into the mix...but at least you have hyperbole to fall back on.
Ah, good old Joe. I knew we could count on him to say something stupid again and again. I'm going with the Vegas odds makers on this one.
Joe is just telling the truth something the repubs seem to be unable to do or comprehend. Mr. Ryan I do not believe a word you say. What i do know is that if I give you the chance you will bury me even further.
You do realize genius, that the Republican platform includes lowering taxes to stimulate the economy.
Obama merely wants to raise taxes, and he has ALREADY done so through Obamacare ... but he wants more !
Joe accidentally told the truth for a change !
gdale - "Joe is just telling the truth something the repubs seem to be unable to do or comprehend."
Republicans are well aware of what Obama has done to the middle class, as are most Democrats. If they were doing well do you think they would need to trade their votes for "free" handouts?
Ahhh, if only they hadn't jumped all over Romney for his 47% comment. Now they are going to whine that they are getting slammed over one single misspeak. What goes around comes around. Romney can at least stand by what he said, Biden is going to have to make up some lame excuse for saying it. Perhaps he can say he was "just channeling his opponent." Wake up everyone! The dems know they are bad for the middle class. Their #2 guy said it himself.
Romney's 47% comment wasn't a misspeak. He really does despise the Staples, Burger King, Toys R'Us, etc. employees, who made him wealthy. They were never people in his mind. They're just commodities. Corporations are the only people that matter to Romney.
47% was not a misspeak and his point was clearly stated. Biden stuck his foot in his mouth.
And Obama despises business, capitalism, economic freedom, political dissent, responsibility, integrity, success, common sense, and the list goes on and on.
Moabama, I don't recall Obama ever saying anything like that. But, even if that were true. On November 6th, who are we going to vote to help? Ebeneezer Scrooge? Or Tiny Tim?
den -
Evidently you are blinded by your adoration of all things Obama. His actions (you do understand what those are, don't you?) speak of his hatred of business and success everyday!
Give examples, Tammy. Go for it.
Well, there goes Plugs Biden again "helping" the President. I thought Obama was smart enough (apparently not) to keep "Bite Me Biden" off the campaign trail till after the election.
Joe Biden said what so many Americans are feeling every day. "For four years, the middle class has been buried" by Obama's failed policies from higher taxes to more debt which is why he has a difficult time explaining why he deserves another term in the White House."
Too funny...
Can you spell FASCISM
The lack of cooperation from the right wing nut job tea party in Congress has allowed the burial and kept the middle class buried. When offered an idea how to dig out (shovel ready) they dug allright, deeper and deeper. The middle class knows who dug the hole and bury them and it isn't Obama.
If Obama wasn't so flaccid and inept, he would have been able to figure out a way to work with congress like Clinton did, But we all know Obama is no Clinton. What makes you think he will do anything different for the next four years?
I wouldn't say oblamo is flaccid..
the liar-in-chief has a hard-on for this country..
he wants to screw it bad!
Can you say You're an Idiot! Conservatives finally took back control in house in 2010. Liberals had control of the House and Senate since 2007. So who was passing all the spending bills and the so called shovel ready jobs or lack there of? When is Obama going to stop playing the blame game? I was excited for him to be president and hopeful that he was going to bring some unity and leadership but has totally failed on both parts!
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You righties are hilarious. Yeah, it's all Obama's fault that there is no compromise. After all, it was only Republican leadership that stated their sole aim was to make sure Obama was a one-term president. Get a mirror and take a look...that's what a lemming looks like.
Obama, by the way, has not been in the White House for four years, but I guess it's hard for some of you folks to count that high. When you get a clue, think about what Biden was actually saying, not what you and the losing ticket wishes he was saying.
Hey wing nut - this is funny....
From a video posted on you tube that shows Dr. Barbara Bellar speaking at a Women for Romney/Ryan rally last month:
"So let me get this straight. This is a long sentence.
We are going to be gifted with a healthcare plan that we are forced to purchase, and fined if we don't, which reportedly covers ten million more people without adding a single new doctor, but provides for sixteen thousand new IRS agents,written by a committee whose chairman doesn't understand it, passed by congress, that didn't read it, but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief,who didn't pay those taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benifits take effect, by a government which has bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese and financed by a country that is broke.
So what the blank could possibly go wrong?"
You have an odd sense of humor if you think a bunch of right-wing talking points are funny. Guess we shouldn't be surprised. I guess that fraud, along with you, think Romney is right and those that don't have insurance should just use the ER, since that is so much cheaper. Yeah, right.
So, if you can not afford insurance , you get to pay a fine. How does that help you?
Perhaps if you knew anything about Obamacare, you wouldn't ask such questions. Quit getting your information from Fox News and do a little research on your own. You obviously have an Internet connection.
Yeah, and when you do that research, pay attention to all the other "sneaky" little taxes built into that POS legislation. Obama has waged war on middle class Americans with health issues by substantially curtailing medical deductions which raises their taxes.
Thanks to the party of NO!!!!
You need to learn how to spell ... it is the party of "KNOW". Yours is the party of "Hope and Change".
jim-1455435 - you prove daily that you KNOW absolutely nothing and will support candidates who know even less!
Obama/Biden 2012
Oh, Speeking Insanity ... it was about time for you to crawl out and begin following me again, desperately attempting to show some cognitive thought process emanating from your mouth.
I know quite clearly that Barack Hussein Obama is a financial moron and the CPA's around this country (you know, the guys and gals that ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND TAXES AND FINANCIAL REPORTS) largely see right through his massive annual deficits. Obama refuses to trim government waste and reduce spending ... something that ANYONE with half of a brain will understand .... it MUST BE DONE !
Ryan has passed a budget ...Biden only passes gas !
What budget did Ryan pass? You continually spout this nonsense, but it's a lie.
joe biden is the democRATs spiro agnew!
Dildo Joe finally gets one correct. We have been buried the past 4 years thanks to Obama's economic
(or lack of) policies.
You are aware that Bush was president four years ago, right? Nah, you probably tried to forget it like the rest of us.
Only a left wing nut job would ask such an insipidly stupid question.
Figures that a rightie would think facts are stupid.
I used to think Dan Quayle had to have been the stupidest VPOTUS in history, but Biden really takes the cake.
Are those hair plugs interfering with brain activity?
Lyin Ryan sez:
Obama has CUT middle class taxes. What the middle class has been buried in is Republican obstructionism in Congress and an avalanche of lies by Romney and Lyin.
Obama has cut payroll taxes in a "pandering move" that will hasten the demise of Social Security even faster.
jim-1455434
You're just slinging more BS.
Obama cut payroll taxes as a TEMPORARY move to stimulate the economy, like Republicans say tax cuts do. He also passed a "making work pay" tax credit that was also a middle class tax cut.
Ryan is still lyin. And so are you.
Houston, "You have a problem" .... you simply cannot just tell the truth !
Even a temporary spike is a reduction of social security money flowing in, and the future projections show it going broke ! You can lie about that all day long, and I thoroughly expect you to do so because you are a "regressive", but reducing inflow is not a wise financial move ... it was merely a POLITICAL move as Obama continues to pander for votes in an attempt to offset his HORRIBLE record as President !
Everything Obama does is an attempt to keep himself in power ... a power he frequently ABUSES by picking and choosing which laws he will enforce .... OR NOT !!!!!!!!
I love the GOP response...once again, I have to ask, as if everything was just fine and dandy for the middle class prior to 1/20/2009?
Who is currently the POTUS who promised to deliver us out of this mess? Who promised more transparency?
Take some responsibility, but democrats are not very good at that.
Take some responsibility = "have some balls" ... not likely under Teflon Barry ... nothing sticks to him, not even coverups !
Answer these question Romney supporters:
1) Tell me why do you far right Taliban Christians think you are entitled to get into my bedroom?
2) Tell why to you far right Taliban Christians think every Muslin is out to get you?
3) Tell me why you far right Taliban Christians think you are entitled to say what is a marriage?
4) Tell me why does the far right Taliban Christians think you are entitled to say whether my wife or daughters get a vaginal probe?
5) Tell me why the far right Taliban Christians hasn’t explain exactly what is a legitimate rape?
6) Tell me why the far right Taliban Christians seem entitled to ship our jobs overseas and then it says it sucks to be you fend for yourself?
7) Tell me why the far right Taliban Christians thinks they are entitled to put the elderly, disabled, and Military Vets out on the street to fend for themselves?
8) Tell me why Mitt Romney and family can avoid serving in our military yet be more than willing to send other off to die for this country?
9) Tell me why Mitt Romney can invest his money in a Chinese company that is doing business with Iran?
RetMSgt,
I would like to see one of them actually answer any of your questions and also state why they are voting for Romney/Ryan. I see a lot of anti-Obama on these boards today but nothing pro-Republican.
Thank you for your service.
Obama/Biden 2012
Tell me who is in your life:
The instances of the Justice Department monitoring electronic communications such as phone calls, emails and even social network updates without a warrant has increased by as much as 60 percent in recent years, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.
Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/19702231/electronic-monitoring-by-justice-department-on-the-rise-under-obama-aclu-says#ixzz28BXHxjSs
Remember, when you cannot effectively answer a question, redirect...
Hey Lied and Died.
What lies are you talking about? It couldn't be lies about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, or mission accomplished, or outing a CIA agent, or I knew nothing about a terrorist attack (911), tax cuts for the wealthy will spur the economy. Half you people who are anti Obama is because hes black the other half are just ignorant. The Republicans with definitely take care of the "Little People" Lackey!
The terminology "weapons of mass destruction" was used by Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright ... long before Bush was elected ! Epic failure by you !!
Oh, and the "tax cuts for the wealthy" .... the Bush tax cuts lowered tax rates on ALLl who were paying taxes !
Oh, and then, OF COURSE, playing the race card because you ran out of the tired "talking points". LOL !!
From Idaho - well said. Even though Bush had information that NO WMD's were in Iraq he just had to invade it to get Saddam and try to get his father's approval. Didn't work and we lost how many good men and women because of his lies?
And Romney is already rattling sabers over Syria and Iran. He'd start a war at the drop of a hat just to keep the Halibuton's working and making their money!
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So you are CONFIRMING that Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright LIED about the Weapons of Mass Destruction ??? Of course. Bill Clinton DOES, have a record of lying !!
By the way distortionist, Syria is not developing an atomic bomb ... so you get 4 Pinnochios !!!!
jim, please quit your lying and/or misdirection. Clinton may have used the WMD description, but those weapons were destroyed; Clinton did not invade Iraq like your hero. Bush lied about the WMD that no longer existed...sorry if facts get you all messed up. Talk about epic failures.
Iraq is the size of California . Even your Micheal Moore hero , can not say , Iraq never had WMDs.
So, Michael Moore is my hero? What color are my cars? How big is my house? Since you know all about me, you must have those answers. Yeah, I'm sure those weapons are there. Geez.
TO: retiredcoastguard
[Bush lied about the WMD]
Everybody in the world, including George "Curveball" Bush, KNOWS there were never any WMDs because if there were our military would have found them!
If our military can find Saddam Hussein in a spider hole hidden under a rock (and they did), they can darn sure find WMDs, unless of course they don't exist (which they don't)!
Boy oh boy, Republicans will push a lie for as long as they can find a fool to believe them!
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You left-wing loons need a healthy dose of the TRUTH.
You idiots should read the transcripts of the interviews conducted by FBI Agent George Piro with Saddam Hussein prior to his execution.
You would learn...
...that Saddam had the last of his WMDs destroyed just DAYS before the American attack began.
...that he kept the destruction of his WMDs TOTALLY SECRET, even from his closest advisors, because he wanted IRAN to believe that he still had them.
...that he wasn't concerned, at all, about a US attack. He thought that, at worst, there would be some air strikes but he had no fear that the US would invade.
...that Saddam had faith that the numerous United Nations and European government officials that he had on his payroll would prevent an invasion.
...that Saddam also believed that those same UN and European officials would get the UN sanctions lifted within the next year at which time he had every intention if reinstating his WMD programs.
Yes, I know it is from Fox, but heck just as good as NBC. The plot thickens, what a surprise.
Here's something "stunning" Pauly boy; read James 5: 1-6, then tell America what good persons you and Mitt are, and how good those in the top 1% that support you are. You can try and ignore this warning but it won't work; you and Mitt have been advised of the consequences as outlined in this scriptural reading. And trust me, there is no separation of church and state when it comes to this. You're either with us or against us; no gray area here.
I wonder if Jumpin' Joe will use a teleprompter for his debate. The dems should know by now that he is so far off message they can't find him with dogs and a search warrant. Oblameo organizes his way to Chicago, Jumpin' Joe mouths his way (somewhere). Maybe Joe's wife will take care of him when he's out of a job.
11/6/12 END OF AN ERROR
Bob in KC - since both Ryan and Romney use teleprompters at their main events - as every Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate in modern times, your point is? Of course it's just plain stupid as a teleprompter would have no place at a debate. Perhaps you don't understand the premise? Understandable since you're a Republican!
Oh and you're right - on 11/6/2012 we'll vote out as many of the obstructionist Republicans as possible so it will be the end of an error. And, we'll send Mitt packing for good! OOOOOh - end of two errors!
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"we'll vote out as many obstructionist Republicans as possible" ?????
Are you telling us you intend to commit VOTER FRAUD and vote in districts/states other than where you reside ?????
jim apparently has a hard time with "we" - so he brings up the bogus voter fraud nonsense...the talking point of losers. That and the teleprompter whining.
No surprise the Rt's jumping on a remark and using it out of context once again.
The Republicans learned that from you liberals ... seems like you have a diarrhea-like reaction if something "Republican" can be misconstrued, but then you play "victim" when your clowns make the BIG GAFFE !!!
smack on the button, jim1455434!
We interrupt this program for a national security message. This is not a drill. A walker named Joe Biden has again become animated. Bury him.
@left,
While I support Biden, I do have a sense of humor.
Your post got a chuckle out of me!
Hate to break it to you, though: Uncle Joe ain't the one that's gonna get buried.
The strange uncle.