Biden says middle class has been 'buried over the last four years'

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Returning to the home city of the Democratic National Convention, Vice President Joe Biden said  that the two men on the GOP ticket have their wires crossed on whether or not the Obama administration has raised taxes.

"Even Romney had what we Catholics call an epiphany," Biden said of the GOP nominee's recent message slip on taxes. "Romney came out and ... said, 'they have not raised taxes on the middle class.' But apparently Paul Ryan has not gotten the memo!"

As the presidential candidates prepare for Wednesday's debate, Vice President Joe Biden spoke about the "buried" middle class, prompting the Romney campaign to suggest the President's policies are to blame. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.

Romney said last week at a campaign stop in Ohio that Obama intends to raise taxes, something the president "did not do in his first four years."

While Obama has not raised tax rates, he has signed legislation -- particularly his health care law -- that Republicans argue would yield major penalties for many middle class families. 

Biden argued that the GOP, in contrast, would raise taxes on a middle class that has "been buried over the last four years."

That comment earned a scathing response from Republicans, who called it  "a stunning admission" about the White House's economic policies.

"Vice President Biden made a stunning admission today and we couldn’t agree more: the middle class has been ‘buried’ under the last four years of this President’s policies," the Romney campaign wrote in a press release.

Biden, who acknowledged that riders on Air Force Two had "queasy stomachs" after a bumpy ride to North Carolina, kept the crowd of about 1000 waiting for an hour due to the inclement weather upon arrival.

His plane aborted one landing attempt In Charlotte because of storms in the area and was forced to circle the airport for about a half hour before landing without further incident. 

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How many times do Stephanie Cutter, Ben Labolt, or David Axelrod have to go on national TV and explain what Joe Biden said or meant to say? I think this whole thing with Biden is becoming a national disgrace. Dan Quayle was not this bad

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Reply#207 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:02 PM EDT

Joe Biden is the classic village idiot. He fits in well with Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, etc.

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Reply#208 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

“Bidden statement of middle class crushed in the last four years”
Bidden only meant that middle class has suffered maximum from 2008 with shattered economy, Wall Street Housing Bubble, closing of industries one after the other, banking collapse, AIG losses, two wars going on, Bail out of Wall Street with billions of dollars with no gains but losses to old & retirees who lost their investment and younger generation losing jobs, dependence on state benefits, foreclosures & homelessness as well jobs. With GOP majority congress even unemployment benefits were always on cliff of breakdown. Auto industry too was closing making thousands jobless flooding the jobless market without improvement in technology with other competitors. It was Obama who had to bail out Auto industry with commitment from top CEOs to innovate, buy & develop competitive market & it worked very well. This is what Bidden impressed his audience with solid argument & true facts.

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Reply#209 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

they only true fact about anything you've said is that Obama does not know how or refuses to fix it in any case the man is an impotent leader had has caused the suffering of all Americans to linger

He does have a motive behind it though.... the longer this continues the easier it becomes to except this as the NEW NORMAL

anyone with an ounce of capacity to think for themselves should thoroughly reject Obama and his policies period

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#209.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

Amarjit

The Recession ended in June 2009. So what has Obama/Biden done to get us into recovery mode? What happened to the 'Summer of Recovery 2010' or the 'Summer of Recovery 2011'?

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#209.2 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

Amarjit===So your the new spokesperson for Joe Biden? No mater how you cut it the words came out of Joe Biden's mouth. If Joe Biden has a hard time with a simple speech, what would happen if he were to became the president? If Maybe we are taking a risk having Joe Biden be the Vice-President of the United States.

BTW the Joe's last name Biden isn't in the dictionary on this site. Update!!

    #209.3 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:44 PM EDT
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    Lets get it straight...obmaa promised us high energy costs. He stated...Energy prices will rise. Gas has been expensive since he got into office which costs the American Middle Class and all Americans...higher food prices, high costs to drive vehicles and for other forms of transportation (buses, taxies, and etc) high prices for other commodities due to transportaton costs and etc. To say obama has not raised taxes...is BULL. When you are paying higher taxes on food and other commodies you are paying higher taxes on these inflated values. Americans who have lost their homes and/or are maintaining or paying mortgabges on high inflated values of their homes have been hurt or are hurting. The median income of the middle class from the Community Re-Investment Act passed under Bill Clinton and his democratic congresss has hurt Americans greatly. obama is not a good president.

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    Reply#210 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

    @ Amarjit

    Where do you think this forclosure & housing bubble originated? It's real easy dude. Just look up the name Brokesly Born. She was in the Clinton Administration. You may also know these names as well, being they were in the Clinton Administration & also are or were in OH Bummers administration. Larry Sommers, Hank Paulson, Tim Geithner. You need to add Alan Greenspan to the list of Clintonites. All of these cretins shut her down, and were going to have her office closed and her fired. She did however resign. She had the answers, they would not listen

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    Reply#211 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:44 PM EDT

    You Republicans are a bunch of morons, middle class is buried because you have blocked everything Obama has tried to do to save this country and all you do is block it to make him look bad.

    Maybe things will be better when we get you idiots out of the way and realize the Dems can turn your f'n mess around.

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    Reply#212 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

    So does that mean that Obama DIDN'T CREATE those 4.5 Million jobs in the last 30 months?

      #212.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

      Smokin-4961663===A comment by a true Obama Fan.

        #212.2 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:49 PM EDT
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        I really do wish I could understand how people on the left think. I grew up thinking no one owed me anything.

          Reply#213 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:48 PM EDT

          the dems had the first two years of Obama's term to turn things around when they had a filibuster proof majority

          what did they give us?

          the Obama care tax on the middle class

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          Reply#214 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

          The obvious solution then being to return the reins of power to those who ran the economy off a cliff.

            #214.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 5:35 PM EDT
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            @ Smokin

            So what happened in 09 &10 when he had both house under dumbocrats? Obama Care & nothing else. When he could have done anything, he did nothing. I'm not smokin what you are smokin

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            Reply#215 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

            Hope if yo are thinking this way that you or your spouse or kids or parents or friends never have to go out and get healthcare with a preexisting condition!! It's next to impossible to get insurance coverage now with a preexisting condition but will be sooo much easier under Obamacare! Hope you never have a premature grandchild born and no insurance, hope you never have an autistic child in your family and can't get coverage for life!! Believe me, as someone in healthcare field, I KNOW FIRST HAND HOW WELL OBAMACARE WORKS NOW AND WILL WORK IN THE FUTURE AS PARTS COMING INTO USE!!! IT WORKS!!!

              #215.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

              K-########

              I doesn't work for me. I lost my Medicare Advantage Insurance TWICE in 2 years thanks to the PPACA. Now I have to pay more for less coverage.

                #215.2 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:36 PM EDT
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                Joe's right, the middle class was beaten up badly over the past four years mainly because the lame, stonewalling, obstructionist Republican Congress couldn't DO anything FOR the people! The Republicans passed over every Dem attempt at a jobs bill, but couldn't come up with one of their own! The Republicans wasted time reinventing abortion rights and beating down any Dem plans that would benefit women or veterans or college kids or child care but found plenty of support for bills continuing the War on Women!! No problem there....hold us down, keep us ignorant and underpaid, that's the Republican way!!

                  Reply#216 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                  K-########

                  So just how did Obama create 4.5 Million jobs in the last 30 or so months,as he claims,IF 'the lame, stonewalling, obstructionist Republican Congress couldn't DO anything FOR the people!'?

                    #216.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                    FYI, the democrats shot down Obama's plans as well with 100% objection. Why do libs always seem to forget that part?

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                    #216.2 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 5:12 PM EDT
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                    Backhouse and the others still going on and on about Bush..guess what, he's not running you nimrods! You know who is, Romney and some guy that has less than zero net job creation. It's time Obama stops playing the blame game and take credit for the mess he made significantly worse. That, unfortunatly, is something he doesn't have the balls or integrity to do though. Romney isn't even running on the same policies as Bush, he's much more aligned with Reagan than Bush. Reagan did one hell of good job when he came into a mess that the Carter administration left him. Obama can't say the same thing, can he?

                    Biden, btw, scares the crap out of me that HE'S they guy one heartbeat away from the presidency. Just a thought....

                    Romney/Ryan 2012!!!!

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                    Reply#217 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                    So Biden says, "the middle class is buried the last four years." So lyin' ry;an says today in response that "we gotta stop digging so elect Mitt" rom;nuts. Seems to me lyin' ry;an made the gaffe. The Obama administration has been digging us out of the epic failures of the deregulation and tax breaks for the rich people that W. Bush unleashed on our Nation and back to which rom;nuts wants to take us. The Republicans want to let the middle class stay buried alive.

                      Reply#218 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

                      What a dimwit! You call a real unemployment level (i.e. the U-6 rate for you mental midgets) of over 15% "digging us out". Sorry my bear of little brain that's called digging a deeper hole. Gawd, you must either work for the government or be a professional student; which is it?

                      Reagan took over from the Obama clone, Jimmy Carter, and fixed the mess in a little more than a year (and yes, it was an unbelievable economic and foreign policy debacle under Carter). A true leader doesn't blame others for the problem, he simply digs in and gets it done (see Mitt Romney's resume as someone that's "been there done that"!). All the anointed one has done is blame Bush, blame congress, etc..etc..etc....

                      Wake up and stop watching CNN and MSNBC for your "news and views"!

                        #218.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                        If Ryan is a liar, what does that make Obama? Obama is the most corrupt crook to ever step in the White House since the beginning of our great country. A total failure asking for 4 more years of the same? What a loon.

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                        #218.2 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                        Just like rom;nuts you make up "facts." 15%, J.H. The National employment rate is 92%. Rom;nuts lied last night when he said 23 million unemployed when in fact it is less than half of that number. Lie, Lie, Lie.

                          #218.3 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                          Again my bear of little brain, if you had read my statement, I am referencing the U-6 Unemployment rate which includes the underemployed, those who have quit looking for employment, and those whose unemployment benefits have been exhausted. Then again, these are facts and I do understand that liberal like yourself rely solely on feelings when making decisions (like most women do). Guessing aren't a woman but probably, like Obama, have quite a few feminine tendencies.......

                            #218.4 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 1:12 PM EDT
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                            And to think that this man could have been the President had something happened to the anointed one? I simply cannot wait for the Vice Presidential debate as Ryan is going to rip Joe a new one............ it will be too fun to watch..........

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                            Reply#219 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                            Good old Joe is Obama's best protection. No one would take Obama out knowing that Biden would take over!

                              #219.1 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

                              If recent history is any indicator then lyin' ry;an will lie, lie, lie. If recent history is any indicator then misinformed people like J.H. will swallow it hook, line and sinker.

                                #219.2 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 11:07 AM EDT
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                                Finally the idiot gets it right. Even a middle class American buried up to his neck in Obama's cow dung would make a better president than Ocrap'O.

                                  Reply#220 - Wed Oct 3, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                                  Thank the Leftist and Chief Obama, for the following four years of failure.

                                  43 months of unemployment above 8%! 23 million Americans unemployed, under-employed.
                                  A gallon of gas has doubled, under his troubled leadership!
                                  49 million Americans are on food stamps.
                                  51% of college grads,cannot find work. In Obama's America.
                                  Obama gave backdoor amnesty to millions of illegal aliens!
                                  Ambassador Stevens, was killed in Benghazi, Libya! And Obama lied about his death!Then took a leisurely plane ride to Las Vegas, Nevada to raise money for his reelection! I wonder if his aides told him unemployment went up in Nevada last quarter!
                                  Democrats have not produced a federal budget for 4 years!
                                  5.5 trillion in new federal debt! The highest accumulation of debt by any US President!
                                  866 billion dollars in a failed stimulas attempt!
                                  3.6 million more Americans on SSDI!!!!!!!!!! In Obama's America they can't find work!

                                    Reply#221 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                                    Risk1, facts, facts, facts, is that all you've got :)

                                      #221.1 - Thu Oct 4, 2012 1:13 PM EDT
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                                      You must admit this kind of honesty is rare in a politician! Obama DID bury the middle class for the past four years.

                                        Reply#222 - Sat Oct 6, 2012 5:39 PM EDT
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