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DENVER – Mitt Romney used his final scheduled public appearance before Wednesday's first presidential debate to dismiss the expectations game played by both campaigns in recent weeks and to rally supporters with retooled economic rhetoric geared towards middle class voters.
"People want to know who’s going to win," Romney said of the debate at the nearby University of Denver. "Who’s going to score the punches and who’s going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make."
"There’s going to be all the scoring of winning and losing, and you know, in my view, it’s not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves — the president and myself — it’s about something bigger than that," Romney continued, dismissing the parlor game of expectations-setting that has defined much of the political discourse in recent days.
In his own form of spin, Romney said he was "delighted" about the chance to debate President Obama three times in the next month and declared that the debates, taken in sum, would "be conversation with the American people that will span almost an entire month."
Before a raucous crowd of more than 5,000 supporters, Romney infused his economic talking points with a middle-class focus that perhaps spoke to the recent debate prep designed to refine his message to best appeal to undecided voters.
"Income is down some $ 4,300 dollars a family and with a median income of about $50,000 dollars that means things are really tough for the American people," Romney said. "The middle class squeeze has been unbearable. Gasoline prices way up; food prices up; electricity prices up; health insurance prices up. The American middle class is struggling under this president."
In interviews before the event, Colorado supporters uniformly told NBC News that if Romney needed to show more of a personal understanding of middle class life on Wednesday if he wanted to siphon support from the president
"I really think that Mitt needs to be more personal with the American people," said Renee Salza, a Realtor and Republican who is supporting Romney. "I think a lot of people feel he's somewhat aloof and disconnected from everyday Americans."
Romney, who referenced Colorado's defense community at NORAD and the Air Force Academy, was also joined by a state icon of a different sort, NFL Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway, who endorsed Romney in a brief on-stage appearance.
“I must say today has been a very good day, not only because of what happened yesterday," Elway said, referencing the Broncos' thrashing of rival Oakland yesterday, "because I get the opportunity to introduce to you the next president of the United States, Governor Mitt Romney.”
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The republicans keep George W. pretty well hidden like they might be embrassed of him but Romney is not to good to take Bush's money. Does anyone know how Ann's fund raiser with the Bush's worked out.
W does what he wants. You are obviously a know nothing.
Bush immerses himself into various projects for our veterans and wounded soldiers. He has been to Africa just recently to promote AIDS awareness and treatment. Only an uninformed child would not know this. I'm glad you're not old enough to legally vote.
He should be trying to help the Vets but he will not be able to atone for all the vets and innocent people that he got killed and disabled.
As well as Michelle's with Gwen Stefani.... they both made money for their husbands...
What every uninformed child doesn't realize is that:
1) African are being used as lab animals to test medications and treatments on that are not legal to perform in the US.
2) Many have no legal representation, no knowledge of what is being administered to them.
3) Drug companies are sending obsolete medications and treatments in exchange for tax breaks4
4) no compensation or legal rights are being offered by the drug companies.
Now if you want to consider this "humanitarian" work and the individual promoting this is supposed to be put on a pedestal as some savior, then you are free to do so.
I refute your claims and believe that Bush's motivation goes down deep into the pockets of the pharmaceutical industry. You actually want me to believe that Bush would do something nice just for the sake of doing something nice?
It always goes back to $$$$$$$$$$$.
prog - More Americans killed in Afghanistan under Obama than 2 terms of Bush
Another huge mess that Bush created with Obama trying to clean it up in some way. You hard core supporters will not anmit it but history will do justice to the President George W, Bush and it will not be a pretty picture. Of all the Presidents that took this country to war under questionable circumstances Bush did not even have a decent questionable circumstance and the outcome from his wars can already be seen as the failures that they are.
Do any of you Pubes plan to refute my comments about the man child and the pharm industry? Or do you choose to be brainwashed by Faux News?
Know nothing conspiratory fools interested only in what's behind the failure-in-chief's zipper. Truly, truly pathetic.
Thank God you're probably both felons and can't legally vote.
Since Bush's push to curb AIDS in Africa the cases have been halved. No one has to refute you since you have nothing which resembles the truth. Only your left wing loony hatred for all things different.
Obama has really been courting the idiot vote hard. Handing out freebies like a heroin dealer fishing for new customers. Demonising his opponent using descriptions like "flip-flopper".
Obama is the biggest flip-flopper in presidential history. He is also the biggest liar. The term that describes him best is "evil". Well, no, i correct myself, "idiot puppet" describes him best. "Evil idiot puppet" is right.
Just last week he made some impotent declaration concerning human trafficking. It was designed to make him seem as if he cares. It was designed to appeal to the idiots who are or may vote for him. The no information crowd as I like to call them. People who get their propaganda solely from left leaning outlets such as MSNBC.
Here's who he really is":
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/01/obama_waives_sanctions_on_countries_that_use_child_soldiers
It's hard to take anyone seriously if they can't even get past their first sentence without name calling.
My first sentence called no one anything. So what does that make you?
It's hard to take anyone serious that supports Obama, the worst president in our nation's history.
I'd call that name calling.
Someone with a functional understanding of the english language??
You can spew hate and call it cake frosting all you want.
Doesn't make it true.
Just because it's derogatory doesn't make it not true.
Never called anyone anything. Only the idiots would think so.
Not one of the idiots responded to the article cited that shows Obama to be a flip flopping evil liar who supports children being forced to fight in wars.
That's what I'm talking about. The idiot voters who know nothing about the man except the fact he's "historic".
I see a couple on this thread.
I agree with Romney on this one (I've flip flopped) he needs to keep it civil and on message (whatever that is, sorry I'm not a Romney supporter so I couldn't resist) if he can manage that and be consistent he can climb back into this thing.
He is handicapped by the fact that the press and the public will be more forgiving of the president than Mitt so he still need to stay sharper.
But did he flip flop for votes or because he's "seen the light" so to speak?
"Lockheed, one of the biggest employers in the key battleground state of Virginia, heeded a request from the White House today — one with political overtones — and announced it will not issue layoff notices to thousands of employees just days before the November presidential election.
Such massive layoffs could have threatened Obama’s standing in the state he won in 2008 and is hoping to carry again this November.
On Friday, the Obama administration reiterated that federal contractors should not issue notices to workers based on “uncertainty” over the pending $500 billion reduction in Pentagon spending that will occur unless lawmakers can agree on a solution to the budget impasse, negotiations over which will almost definitely not begin until after the election.
Contractors had been planning to send out notices because of the WARN Act — Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act…"
Sorry, it's time for a new administration. And if that doesn't work than we bring another new administration in 2016. Obama, and everyone else in office, has to go Nov. 6! Fire Them All!
It is an old practice in the politics of this country for business leaders to try to influence the votes of their workers. In one election I would have to research to get the years most of the workers checks included a notice which informed them that if a certain candidate was elected they would not need to show back up for work the next day. This is usually the conservatives not wanting a candidate elected that would interfere with whatever practice they were trying to get away with.
Sorry, it's time for a new administration. And if that doesn't work than we bring another new administration in 2016. Obama, and everyone else in office, has to go Nov. 6! Fire Them All!
your post makes no sense.
"This is usually the conservatives not wanting a candidate elected that would interfere with whatever practice they were trying to get away with."
so what are companies getting away with under Obama ?
@prog.1.. sorry but conservatives are not the ones breaking the law in this instance. It is a Democratic White House... And a company is free to influence their workers, however they are not free to break the law. Lockheed would be breaking the law and then the gov't will be picking up the tab for the lawyers... sorry but this whole administration has got to go and we start at the top.
Example If the coal company plans to start strip mining a certain area and they know the political candidate opposes strip mining then the company will threaten the employee with the loss of his job if he votes for that particlar candidate. This practice has taken place with practically every industry major company in the country. Ex. If a particular candidate wants to force the coal company to provide black lung benefits for their employees then the employer will not want that candidate elected.
Thank you for the example Prog.1, considering if you are a coal miner under Obama you either -
(a) have already lost your job
or (b) are in dire peril of losing your job.
"So, if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it’ll bankrupt them."
Why would any coal plant owner NOT try to influence their employees to vote against a President who says this? Both the owner's and the employees' livelihood have been directly threatened.
There is always a balance. Of course we need energy from different sources so if the energy source is coal are the company owners willing to protect the environment andtheir employees from harm and compensate them for damage or do the owners want to maxamize profit and neglect everything else to obtain the most profit possible. The BP oil spill is one example.
Conservative What about the republicans raising the fear level of all the rednecks in the country? The reps. are calling Pres. Obama a socialist/communist telling them Obama is going to take their guns away and these are all lies but the good old boys don't know that they are just lies so you have a situation where the republicans are generating hate and anger and hate crimes etc. rise. Like Lindsey said the Republican party cannot create enough angry white men to stay in power over the long term.
Sad to say but the gun proposal is true... but they play it off.
Exactly, as Wayne LaPierre of the NRA so brilliantly illuminated the gun-clutchers with this incisive , compelling , rational, logical argument:
"The evidence of a massive conspiracy to take away our guns is the fact there is absolutely no evidence at all".
How can you argue with brilliant logic like that??
Lockheed, one of the biggest employers in the key battleground state of Virginia, heeded a request from the White House today — one with political overtones — and announced it will not issue layoff notices to thousands of employees just days before the November presidential election.
Such massive layoffs could have threatened Obama’s standing in the state he won in 2008 and is hoping to carry again this November.
On Friday, the Obama administration reiterated that federal contractors should not issue notices to workers based on “uncertainty” over the pending $500 billion reduction in Pentagon spending that will occur unless lawmakers can agree on a solution to the budget impasse, negotiations over which will almost definitely not begin until after the election.
Contractors had been planning to send out notices because of the WARN Act — Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act…
Sorry, it's time for a new administration. And if that doesn't work than we bring another new administration in 2016. Obama, and everyone else in office, has to go Nov. 6! Fire Them All!
Thank you...
Obama thinks there will be a solution to the fiscal cliff, and he's acting on it, it's called leadership.
Oh really....LEADERSHIP! Where has Barry been the last 4 years then. All I have seen is him chattin it up with the GIRLZ on the view and hangin out with his rich "hollywood friends. So, that's YOUR idea of leadership. What a goober??
Exactly, Romney has sewn up the endorsements of Cindy Crawford,Ted Nugent and Chuck Norris!!
How can he lose??
Well Barry has George (as in Clooney) Sarah J., Dee Schneider (that hottie), etc., etc. And, as Madonna would say (as she's shakin that 60 year ass)....you better vote for that F&&ing Black muslim Obama!!! But, I'm sure you're dumb enough to comply......YEEEHAWWW.
Does it bother you more that she's still in great physical shape or that she wouldn't give you the time of day??
Moreover the net worth of the Obama supporters are in the billions while the Romney supporters I mentioned are hawking junk on info-mercials!!
The military complex with the war mongers in control are going to use " unemployment" as a weapon against us. Sure we'll lose jobs but some jobs need to be lost for the long term health of this country. Im pretty sick of being threatened by our own weapons because the US placed some unstable stooge in power of a third world nation. We HAVE to stop arming the world and that especially includes Israel!!!!!.
@markthomas 371822... No it is not... it is however do to the cut in the military defense spending, which will hurt the military contractors...
SF; But GOP says government doesn't create jobs!
True gov't doesn't....they are not employed by the gov't. But unfortunately they award contracts to individual companies which do.... it is all semantics in the end.
Obama gave Solyndra money and that company was already going under, not a contract but taxpayer money! Is that better?
SFM: And why did Solyndra fail? Could it be because Chinese companies, like the ones Mitt Romney supports and whose conditions he wants us to have here, flooded the market with government subsidized equipement so that Solyndra couldn't compete? Does every start up company succeed? The right wing is looking for anything they possible can to make Obama look bad but, when one does even a tiny amount of research, it ends up making the right wing look bad. And silly. And Anti-American
"The Obama campaign sued, contending that that Ohio is violating the Constitution by not extending to civilians the same early voting time as servicemembers, specifically the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment."
"New Data Confirms Military Voting In 2012 Set For Record Low"
“The equal protection clause requires that like things be treated alike, not different things be treated alike,” Wright said. “Our contention is that military service is different, and that it must not be considered unconstitutional for a state like Ohio to make a special accommodation for military personnel that is not made for everybody else.”
Sorry, it's time for a new administration. And if that doesn't work than we bring another new administration in 2016. Obama, and everyone else in office, has to go Nov. 6! Fire Them All!
Sorry, but Romney will not be President.
And as for your military voting story, Ohio was pressured to EXTEND early voting for everyone. The initial law only provided extra time for active duty military. Ohio now has now extended early voting to all counties, preventing the GOP from disenfranchising voters, which was their plan.
Fur -
How else do you think he can disenfranchise the military vote while 'claiming' that he is 'trying to protect everyone's rights'?
He knows that the military tends to vote republican and is trying to win by cheating - typical Chicago politics.
Mitt's gonna kick the SNOT out of "Barry"...stutter, stutter, yes, HOPE and CHANGE was BS..but, you gotta admit I got a lot of naive LIB TARDS to go along with it....Mr. Moderator. Please don't ask me anymore questions about my pathetic record....I thought we agreed that you would just ask about Bo and Michelle's veggie garden.....HA HA HA. What a bunch of GOOBERS.....YEEEHAWWW!!!
buc; Wonder if Mitt will ask President Obama for a $10,000 bet?
You know DRAG....he just might. And, if Barry loses, I'm sure he would just take it off the backs of all the naive twits (like you) that he promised to help with his HOPE and CHANGE bull@!$%#. Either way, I'm sure he's not chippin in....HA HA HA.
Having held every possible position, on every issue, Mitt doesn't really stand a chance.
Ooopsie! Romney's big donors are slip sliding away!
Fox Business' Charlie Gasparino reports that some wealthy donors who have made financial commitments to the Romney campaign are reneging, and instead, opting to send their money to Republican House and Senate candidates who they see as having a better chance of winning next month.
Citing two sources, including "a major player in Romney’s New York fundraising circles," Gasparino notes that some donors are losing faith that the Republican nominee can beat Obama.
This is big news, maybe he should have a garage sell or ask young married couples for their wedding money.
Points well taken ~ however, none of these are within the control of this or any president. Surely no one is so naive as to think electing Romney will lower gasoline prices, food prices, energy prices, raise the median income with minimum wage jobs. Its a good story ~ but at day's end, its just a story. Maybe we should re-elect all of the congressional incumbents and see how Romney performs with an intentionally paralyzed congress.
Jim, well having Obama in office sure hasn't done much good for the nation has it?
Well, except record debt, record deficits, record borrowing, overbearing regulations, and record spending.
Median income has fallen MORE during Obama's "recovery" than it did during the recession. Gas prices started going up AFTER the "recovery" started. Food prices started going up AFTER the "recovery". Energy prices are going up because Obama's EPA is shutting down coal companies and coal mining.
Too bad that you think that having a "minimum wage job" is so terrible. We worked minimum wage for years, without of course having the iphone, HDTV, new car, new furniture, satellite TV and all the other garbage that people think they are somehow "entitled" to. And we did just fine with that until we could move up and out to better jobs.
Just wondering Jim, where's that MSDNC story about how the White House has told the defense industy NOT to hand out layoff notices like they are, BY LAW, required to? And where's that MSDNC story about how the White House has told those defense industries that if they do BREAK THE LAW, that the government, correction, YOU will pay all their fines and penalties?
If Romney were to say to anyone to go ahead and break the law and the taxpayers will pick up the punishment, people like you would be out in the streets.
Roger have you found out that London Johnson and John Kennedy were Democrat presidents yet?
I just want to know something from prog.1 and Jim in Texas....
If you go back to 2008 and listen to what Obama said he would do about the debt, lowering taxes, foreign policies and so on... and are now in 2012 where our debt has risen by 6 trillion, our taxes are not lower but will go higher, gasoline prices are higher (offshore drilling and coal mines shut down)... our embassies attacked our ambassdor killed. Obama himself said that if he could not get things done in his first term he was going to be out...
Can you tell me how you can build an argument on how he has improved this country and why should he be employed by us for four more years. Because honestly if this were anyone else there is no question in my mind that he would not be re-elected.
I really want to know.
By the way Prog.1 its Lyndon Johnson not London...
Thanks Mom for the correction. Mom you need to know the facts this country in producing more oil, gas under this president than it has in 30+ years. At the time Obama made those statements I don't think anyone had any ideal of the terrible terrible ECONOMIC situation present in this country. Obama was faced with a situation of what to do. It looks like he choose to spend money to try to stablize the economy. From everything I have read fron independent source this spending did help. Also if you look at how Europe id handling the same crisis America seems to be managing the crisis a bit better due to Obama efforts. Bush spent trillions on wars to kill innocent people and that was not a problem with conservatives so you know why attack Obama for spending on this county. Better than killing innocent people.
Fla Mom,
You are coming up with way to many tough questions for them to answer. You should be the moderator in the debate. The only problem would be is that you would get the same talking points from the President! Oh yow and BLAME BUSH.
Hey prog.1 - the majority of that production is from STATE-OWNED leases, not federal. Do some research yourself. The Dakotas are booming from state policies, in spite of federal ones.
And I wonder how many "innocent people" Obama's drone strikes have killed? Did drones somehow become 100% collateral-damage "proof" in January 2009?
I thought Obama was soft on terrorism. This is something that always comes up with conservatives. You are hypocrits. You say Obama is soft on terrorist but then accuse him of killing too many people. You say you want a balanced budget but it is O.K. for Bush to spent trillions od dollars on wars to kill innocent people. You say you are for freedom and smaller govt. but want to invade and control a woman's sexual organs. You know jesus was especially scornful of hypocrits.
In the end these debates will prove nor change anything.We here will support our guy no matter what.Each side will say their guy did better,but hey I am up for some pop corn and beer during the debate-Will be a good show !!
Unless something really dramatic happens during the debates I don't think they will change the minds of many voters and there is already enough info. available so that any reasonable person could make an informed decision.
That headline should read
In final public event before debate, OBAMA plays down expectations
Obama has all but admitted he FAILS at debates....LIKE HE FAILS AT EVERYTHING ELSE HE DOES.
julie Are you still trying to figure out how to put a positive spin on that republican concept of legitimate rape? Have you noticed that Gingrich & your man Santorium are really supporting Akin and are saying Akin must win for the republicans to be successful.
GM, Bin Laden, consumer protections and the Dow might disagree.
worst recovery in 75 years....unemployment over 8% (forever)...more black Americans at or below the poverty level than in the last 52 years...more women out of work than in the last 17 years...300,000 teachers laid off since the end of the recession, 7,000 more last month.....16 trillion dollar deficit and on and on.....you people are just plain dumb.
Worst recession in 75 years too.
What's your point??
What was GM stock at yesterday William?
Hey Willie.....my point is you're just plain dumb....
Well then, all that tells me is that Madeleine is just "half bright"....HA HA HA. Romney in a landslide goobers......
Ooopsie! Romney's big donors are slip sliding away!
Fox Business' Charlie Gasparino reports that some wealthy donors who have made financial commitments to the Romney campaign are reneging, and instead, opting to send their money to Republican House and Senate candidates who they see as having a better chance of winning next month.
Citing two sources, including "a major player in Romney’s New York fundraising circles," Gasparino notes that some donors are losing faith that the Republican nominee can beat Obama.
Fox News has joined the liberal media!!!
Mitt doesn't need to try and lower my expectations of him. They are already there.
Obama's 10 point lead.
Mitt, you built that!!
CNN poll yesterday....dead HEAT!!!
bucs ... watch the realclear average of all polls, not any single poll. btw ... mitt seems unable to get any higher than 47% in any national poll.
Care to post a link to that fairy tale??
It's 50-47 Obama, with a 3 pt margin of error.
Only if you say pretty please Willie....I just love it when you self-righteous LIB TARDS make your demands. Google it MORON......
I agree with Michael. I can't imagine how my expectations could get any lower. However, he had better try. If any of the 53% of the people in the country are sympathetic to the other 47% and believe they are citizens too then Romney and Ryan are in trouble. I know that I am one of those and I will never forget Romney's comments about them whether he is elected or not.
Ironically, Mitt is generally unable to break 47% in the national polls. He reached 48% twice in 2 polls over the last 3 months. In contrast, Obama has been at 48% or higher more than 30 times in just the last 2 months.
For the first time since the black community’s political realignment with the Democrat Party in the 1960′s, a nationally prominent black Pastor has called on the black church community to leave the Democrat Party in a movement dubbed “EXODUS NOW!” Bishop E.W. Jackson’s call to “come out from among them” is apparently being heeded by many black Pastors and Christians across America and creating a stir in many churches. There is concern at the highest levels of the Democrat Party.
The impetus for EXODUS NOW, and what has given it credibility in the black community is the Democrat Party’s increasingly secular stand, particularly making “same-sex marriage” an official part of the Party Platform. This came on the heels of a number of other actions which many Christians found objectionable: President Obama’s support for same-sex marriage; regulations ordering Catholic and other Christian institutions providing healthcare to distribute free contraceptives and abortion drugs; Convention speakers support for unrestricted abortion up to the moment before delivery; and taking God out of the party platform and no longer recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
http://standamerica.us/black-christians-abandoning-democrats-heeding-bishop-e-w-jacksons-call-for-mass-exodus/
Why do we, a country founded with secularism as our primary source of laws, need to have god in our political party platforms? is it not enough for a politician to believe in god? must he turn his party into a psudotheocracy?
and why do our political parties need to recognize the capital of other countries? is the capital of Japan recognized in the republican party platform? what about Germany? Canada? Mexico?
There have always been Uncle Toms and oreo cookies in the black community. These people are usually no more creditable than a woman who votes for a conservative party that treats her as a 2nd class citizen unless she is married to one of the rich conservatives.
It will be a sad day for this country if this administration continues... I fear for us all.
I do not trust them! If we continue to just be complacent in four years everyone that voted for Obama will be blaming the republicans for not doing something about it when it was the public that got what they wanted.
He got Bin Laden, but is doing nothing about our embassies. The Dow is up true and that is important to alot of people... but not for long if the sequestration takes place... there are more things wrong than right.
Gee, doom and gloom, what a surprise.
Same thing every year:
Gay marriage-- Oh my God , Sodom and Gomorrah , the world is ending.
SCOTUS upholds AHCA-- Oh my God , Sodom and Gomorrah , the world is ending.
Black President-- Oh my God , Sodom and Gomorrah , the world is ending.
Choice is affirmed-- Oh my God , Sodom and Gomorrah , the world is ending.
It really is tiring.
I heard a great neologism last week- "Romnesia", the memory lapse that allows somebody who was born with a fortune in the bank to describe himself as "a self- made millionaire". Right- it had nothing to do with the thousands who labored under you, or the great socialist institution known as the United States military that provided a secure, stable social enviroment for your business to thrive in. No help was gained from America's (now crumbling) infrastructure that allowed you to get your products (if any!) to market cheaply and dependably, or from the progressive tax structure that allowed you to attract foreign investors. Nope- did it all yourself!
It's just this sort of blind idiocy that allows the minions of the Right to scream blue murder at our President for the state of the economy, when their elected representatives have done everything in their power to stymie and stall each and every measure that's been proposed or attempted to improve the economy, effect job growth, provide relief for homeowners and improve our tax structure to make it both fairer and more effective. If I may be forgiven for borrowing a metaphor from the great Franklin Roosevelt: The Forces of Darkness set our economic house ablaze, turned off the hydrants, sabotaged all the hoses and pumps, fired the firefighters ('cause they're union, dont'cha know!) and now they're hollering that the Democrat has failed to fix the mess they made. Every time the obvious and totally irrefutable fact that this economy is a Republican mess is mentioned, we get, "Oh, stop living in the past! You're just making excuses!" This from the party who never seem to get sick of glorifying Reagan, the blithering, doddering fool and traitor who established the template for our oligarchic, plantation economy when he wasn't trampling all over his Constitutional oath by selling weapons to America's sworn blood enemies.
Lastly, our opponents seem to have no stomach for a fair, stand- up fight; they remind one of the schoolyard bully who, when he finally receives a well-deserved pop in the snoot, goes running off to Teacher, crying, "He hit me back!" For years, the Reptilicans have flung every imaginable kind of filth and slander at us Progressives; we've mutely stood and taken being called traitors (see "Reagan", above), wimps, welfare queens, and pretty much everything but "sweetheart"; but now there's a new generation of Progressives finding their voices, who are proud to wear the appellation "Liberal", and who relish a good scrap with the oppressors, thieves, corruptionists, fixers and liars of the Right. And what do these militarists and self- proclaimed defenders of America do? Why, they're whining and snivelling that the mean, nasty Lefties aren't being civil, and we're calling them names! Boo- hoo, poor mistreated Neocons. I offer them an olive branch with the words of the great Liberal thinker Adlai Stevenson III: "We will stop telling the truth about the Republicans if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats."
Fox -
I guess you missed the part of Romney's history that shows that he gave away his inherited money and started again from scratch. This means that Romney is, in fact, a self-made millionaire and that it is possible for anyone to be able to become one.
I'm so sorry that your facts are so wrong.
Didn't you take civics in school? If you did, you would know that it is Congress who is responsible for the budget and that democrats have controlled the budgeting process 75% of the time since WWII. (The presidency has been split pretty evenly for party control since then.) This makes the economic mess that this country is in predominantly democrat in origin. (It merely takes a small amount of logical reasoning ability to determine this.)
Granted a President may veto a budget, it normally doesn't happen.
By the way, where are the budgets since 2009? Democrats had total control of Congress from January 2007 to January 2011 when republicans took control of the House of Representatives and since 2011 there have been budgets submitted to the Senate - which Harry Reid refuses to allow to be debated on the floor of the Senate - by the House as required by law, so the republicans are at least trying to do their duty.
Oh, by the way, I stopped reading your rant once I realized that you had nothing meaningful to say.
Obama is the worst President we have ever had. He was by ne means delt a "rough hand", as proclaims. Bush signed TARP into law cleaning up Clinton de-regulation of the banks and the criminal neglect of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Bush also placed the first Bal-Out funds of $13 Billion into a working escrow account.
Oh, we get the Liberal mantra "we were bleeding 750,000 a month". Well no, it was one month, December 2008. And it was 720,000. Now we have 23 Million out of work. Geez, I'll take the 720,000 at this point.
Obama even had control of the congress, and even a $867,000 Billion stimulus filled with his "Tickle up" policies where he promised us a %5.5 unemployment, a green economy with five million jobs, and a cut in the deficit by half. What did we get? A measly $1 trillion added to the GDP in four years. That will barely cover the stimulus, it will not cover the deficit.
Obama Trickle up policies have translated to a huge failure and losses.
• 23 million Americans are out of work, have stopped looking for work, or are underemployed
• $16 trillion national debt (that's $50,000 for every American)
• 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment
• 4 straight trillion dollar budget deficits in a row -- more than any other president combined
More trickle up failues:
18.9% unemployment for Blacks
9.1% for woman,
685,000 woman lost their job and health insurance(who cares about FREE birth control when you do not have health insurance)
The poverty rate for woman has gone up to 14.2% from 7.6%
We have 6 million fewer jobs than 3.5 years ago
3.6 million Residential foreclosures
2.6 million Commercial foreclosures
Over 3.8 million business have gone out of business
38,000 US products moved offshore for manufacturing
The lowest number of patents in 35 years
The highest number of people receiving food stamps in 30 years
A 26% decrease in the value of the dollar
The fewest new prescription drugs in 25 years, 308 prescription drugs in short supply (as of 6/1/11)
Housing values drop 33%
It gets worse:
FOOD STAMPS
Obama – 46.2 million : Before Obama – 28.2 million
CREDIT RATING
Before Obama AAA - Obama AA+
GAS PRICES
Before Obama - $1.65 a gallon (End of term) : Obama - $3.80 a gallon (Current)
(Source: )
UNEMPLOYMENT
Bush - 4.71% (Average) : Obama - 9.4% (Average) – 8.1% Current
( Source: www.bls.gov )
NATIONAL DEBT
Bush – Increased 4 trillion (8 Years) : Obama – Will increase 18 trillion (8 years, according to OBAMAS budget)
(Source: www.treasurydirect.gov )
DEFICIT
Bush - $0.5 Trillion per year : Obama - $1.8 Trillion per year
(Source: www.federalbudget.com)
JOBS
Bush – GAINED 3 million jobs over 8 years : Obama - LOST 6 MILLION JOBS IN 3 YEARS
INFLATION:
Bush +0.1% (End of Term) : Obama +3.6% (Current)
(Source: www.usinflationcalculator.com )
This is called failure. Shall we look at his foreign policy now? In light of current events, do we really need to go there.
Are you insane??
Dubya lost 4.4 million jobs.
Dubya turned a huge surplus into a deficit in 1 year.
Dubya doubled the debt.
You really are grasping now, he inherited low from Clinton and handed a disaster to Obama.
Try his last 2 years when it went he doubled unemployment .
Your ridiculous FOX copy and paste is pointless drivel.
I love the way you bundle your information and include just a couple basic facts with a lot of speculation and opinion.
Bush's padded figures are the reason for our problems. George Bush and the Pubes was driving the car off the fiscal cliff during the second term of his administration.
Stick to the facts. Here are some:
- dow @ 12,000 when bush took office. dow at 7500 when he left.
- america was in 0 war when Bush took office, america was in 2 wars when he left
- 4000 americans dead on US soil duirng his term of office
- 5000 US soldiers dead in Iraq
- bin Laden at large for 7 years during Bush's term, all the while bush will kiss the cheeks of bin Ladens cousins
- Bush increased the debt by 5 trillion, from nearly 5 trillion. He doubled the debt during his rem. Obama will not double the debt during his total 8 year term. Bush and the Pubes were spending money worse than Obama.
Additionally, if you want to rebut the 750,000 job losses and dismiss as a single one time occurance, please enlighten us to the figures for Oct & Nov 2008 along with jan & feb of 2009. Obama didnt take office till the end of jan.
Facts fly over hear head like frizbees did they? Typlical liberal brain-washing. You need an education. Bush had a net gain of 1 Million jobs even after the losses of 2008. Obama is running a net jobs loss right of 292,000. New jobless claims negate job gains and translate to a net loss. That is why you saw the un-employment rate head north %7.9 when Obama took office.
Obama always moans that he inhereted a horrible situation. Bush faced something even more horrible.
When we look at George W. Bush's 8 years as president, we must consider the following:
1.2000 dangling chad fiasco in Florida
2. The Dot Com bust
3. The Tech bubble and the NASDAQ collapse slide from 6000 points to 1200
4. $6 trillion lost from the 401Ks of Americans
5. The new millennium computer scare and fiasco
6. 911 and airline bankruptcies
7. The Afghanistan war and the Iraq war
8. The housing bubble and bust.
9. The stock market bust
10. The aging "Baby Boomer"
Under absurd economic conditions, the GDP under the George W. Bush administration grew by an insane $5.3 trillion.
Now let's look at Barack Obama!
Barack Obama has been in office for 43 months. During this time period, U.S. GDP growth has basically come to a standstill. The GDP was approximately $14.3 trillion when President Barack Obama took office. Currently the GDP is approximately $ 15.3 trillion. That increase will barely cover his $867 trickle up stimulus, it will not cover the deficit.
The national debt, in this same time period has grown to over $16 trillion. The GDP may grow to $15.3 trillion for 2012. We are now insolvent and are Greece.
If Obama could not turn the economy with a $867 Billion trickle up stimulus in his first four yeats, what makes anyone think that the next four years will be any different without it???
These are all self inflicted conditions. Y2000 was NOTHING!!!
The Pubes inherited a thriving economy. There were not 500,000 job losses or more every month prior to GB taking office.
The Pubes started the Iraq war on illigitimate premises.
911 was a result of having Pubes in office.
Please list something that GB was handed by clinton. your comments are rediculous.
Contrast Obama huge failures with Bain and Romney's successes. Bain and Romney saved hundreds of companies from the brink. They can be seen seen on every street corner of your city or town and employ millions of Americans. The tax base they provide help keep local, state, and even the federal government afloat.
Now, here are just a few of Bain Capital successes:
AMC Entertainment
Home Depot
Aspen Education Group
Brookstone
Burger King
Burlington Coat Factory
Clear Channel Communications
Domino's Pizza
DoubleClick
Dunkin' Donuts
D&M Holdings
Guitar Center
Hospital Corporation of America (HCA)
Sealy
The Sports Authority
Staples
Toys "R" Us
Warner Music Group
The Weather Channel
And that Green economy Obama promised with a %5.5 un-employment rate, and 5 Million jobs?
Waa waa
Obama dumped billions into these, all have failed. A community organizer is ill suited to be a venture captalist.
This is a list of just some Obama's Green Jobs failures:
LightSquared
BrightSource
Beacon Power Corp
Ener1 Inc
NextEra
Amonix Inc
Abound solar
A 123 systems
First Solar
Oh, almost forgot, Solyndra
You want to work for those companies??
Minimum wage with no benefits while R/R cuts education so well paying jobs can be taken by students from other countries??
Brilliant.
which companies do you think are more liekly to provide 100k jobs with benefits?
So you would have them on food stamps and a government hand out instead of the diginty of having a job?
Typical liberal elite thinking.
Most of those business provide jobs for young people and give them a start while they go to a community college.
Talk about being out of touch.
Doctors, Sugeons and Nurses - HCA,
Meteorologist, Prodcues, Directors - Weather Channel
Not too mention the Small business owners who own the franchises.
And you would have them trapped forever in a trailer park.
Typical Bain/Koch bros. vulture plutocrat insensitivity.
Trapped in a Trailer park? How in the blue blazes do you think that placing them on Food Stamps and welfare check is going to help them?
Not everyone can be a professional student and milk the system like Sandra Fluke. And Obama? We still do not know where the money came which paid for his Harvard education.
Your an elite liberal that is out of touch. Most young people go to a commuity college and have a part time and full time job. It is teaches them responsibility.
And you would have them sit at home and collect a government pay-check?
There you have it, the difference between Obama Romney:
Obama will give you food stamps and soup kitchen line tokens
Romney will give you a job with Benefits.
Not "typical liberal elite" thinking.
More like conservative quasi-capatilist thinking. These companies outsource production and support to 3rd world countries where they can literally pay pennies per hour with zero benefits. This significantly diminishes the value of the American worker, eliminates the payroll taxes for these workers and revenue to the government and allows these companies to exploit the resources of the world while polluting to no extent.
The only benefits to the US are huge profit windfalls to the corporations while the American people and government are left holding an empty bag.
It is these people, the Mitt Romney's of the world that are the elite and out of touch. American workers don't want free hand outs, they just want to be paid a living wage along with a fair benefits package that will cover their basic needs.
The GOP needs to evolve,all the right wing language works in red and rural sparsely populated parts of the country,but that same language will not work with densely populated areas,and since they continue to give most of us the silent treatment,Barrack Obama will remain President because he speaks to everyone.
I may watch the debate if for nothing else than the humor factor.
Always a good time watching Governor Chuckles stagger and stumble around trying to magically transform himself into "just another regular working class guy" on the spur of the moment.
It is great watching Chuckles struggle to control his charade. He never seems to be able to keep a grip on it too long, just too unnatural for him.
Bush was always fun to watch struggling to put together a complete, understandable sentence.
After watching that clown mangle words I would always shout at the TV "come on now Georgie, use your big boy words".
TOO FUNNY!