Ryan kicks off family-friendly bus tour in Iowa

 

DUBUQUE, IA – Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan kicked off another battleground state bus tour Monday night here and told voters it is all about family.

“Janna and I are kicking off a bus tour today in Iowa. I live two hours east of here in Janesville. We wanted to start here in Loras because this is where my grandfather went to college,” Ryan said, speaking inside the field house at Loras College.

“It is great to have family with us on the road. It is great to have family with us as we do this bus tour through Iowa,” he continued, noting that his wife’s family is from nearby Clinton, Iowa.


Ryan was joined by his three kids -- Liza, Charlie and Sam -- his wife Janna and her two sisters on the two-day bus trip and even reminisced about his connection with Dubuque.

“On the way over here, I had this song ringing in my mind. A song I grew up hearing all the time in southern Wisconsin: ‘Dubuque, Dubuque, da da da da da da da Dubuque, Dubuque. I know you have that thing in your mind,” the seven-term Wisconsin congressman sang to the roughly 1,000-person crowd inside as well as later to the several hundred people who were kept out of the event by the fire marshal.

Just a week ago, Ryan was in Lima, OH kicking off a three-day bus tour for the GOP ticket. Mitt Romney currently trails President Barack Obama in both key Midwest states.

The new Des Moines Register poll released late Saturday night found Obama leading Romney 49 percent to 45 percent in the battleground state.

During Monday night’s event in the Hawkeye State, Ryan explained to the crowd it’s a “difficult reelection” for Obama and that the president must “win Iowa to win this thing.”

Ryan’s rally on the northeast boarder of Iowa marks his fifth event in the state and is just two days before the first presidential debate.

“We are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign,” he told the enthusiastic crowd.

Tuesday, Ryan holds three events along the Mississippi River in Iowa to conclude the “Real Recovery” bus tour in the towns of Clinton, Muscatine, and Burlington.

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Two factors impress me most about Ryan: one subjective and one objective. First, his speeches show an intelligent, well spoken, and energetic man with a world-view that echos my own. On the objective side, he has a reputation for pragmatism and an innate talent for mathematics and finance. The latter two became hugely important to me after I saw how easily congresscritters and the general public were fooled by mathematical fallacies and smokescreens during the debt ceiling debates.

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#1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 9:53 PM EDT

All republicans are alike....trumpeting family values, when they're willing to sacrifice the middle class to get a bigger tax cut to help pay for their million dollar campers that they tour the country in. It's time that all Democrats and anyone leaning away from these two imbeciles votes to clear out the whole lot of them. The only way to get moderates, for either party, back in office is to resoundingly vote against the extremists of the right. They have done nothing to help solve the problems, and have only compounded them.

VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET THIS YEAR!!!!

VOTE AS MANY REPUBLICANS AND TEA BAGGERS OUT OF OFFICE AS POSSIBLE!!!!

  • 35 votes
#1.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:05 PM EDT

If you're upper or upper/middle class, then Ryan is about your family; otherwise, he's not much about you or your family at all.

  • 28 votes
#1.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

Kannin.....

Your man that has an "innate talent for mathematics and finance" can't get a budget passed for 2 years as head of the house budget committee? How is it that you find that to be a talent. Maybe you can discuss his record of passing bills since he's been in the congress.....13 years now. He's quite talented, passing 2 whole bills in 13 years. I guess renaming a post office counts towards his innate talents.

  • 30 votes
#1.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:11 PM EDT

Top 5 Worst Things About Paul Ryan's Record

1. Paul Ryan authored budget proposals that would end Medicare as we know it. His budget proposal would repeal health care reform, sticking seniors with the bill and leaving their health care at
risk. This is especially problematic for women, who make up fifty-six percent of Medicare beneficiaries.

2. Paul Ryan’s budget plan would have cut SNAP grants by 18%. SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) grants, also known as food stamps, has kept 3.9 million Americans (equivalent
to the entire population of Oregon), including 1.7 million children, out of poverty, and allowed them to keep their families from going hungry. This plan also would have drastically cut jobs, leaving 174,000 people out of work.

3. Paul Ryan is bad for women. He voted for a bill that would have effectively banned abortion coverage by insurers who received federal or taxpayer funding. This bill, which Ryan favored, would have allowed anyone involved to refuse to perform an abortion for any reason, even if the life of the woman needing the abortion was in danger.

4. Paul Ryan is extremely anti-choice. Paul Ryan voted for the Protect Life Act, which grants hospitals far-reaching powers to deny women abortion care, without any exception for emergency situations. US
law currently requires hospitals receiving federal funds to provide emergency care to anyone in need up to the point at which they can be stabilized or transferred, if the original hospital is incapable of providing the care they need. "The misnamed Protect Life Act is about allowing women to die if they need an emergency abortion," said Meghan Rhoad, women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. "It is a vicious attack on women’s rights and on the most basic right to life.’”

5. Paul Ryan wants to defund Planned Parenthood. This ideological attack would only result in more women losing access to necessary and basic health care. One in five American women have used Planned Parenthood health services.

There you have it. While Mitt Romney parades Paul Ryan around as his pick to be first in the line of succession to the presidency, you now have the facts. Paul Ryan has a long history of voting against affordable health care and women’s health. His legislative priorities leave millions of people at risk of losing their health care and in medical and financial danger.

Combined with Mitt Romney’s bad policies, it’s clear: the Romney/Ryan ticket is bad for women and families.

  • 35 votes
#1.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

Paul Lying Ryan’s top-down budget plan is a sham!

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney both support trillions in budget-busting tax cuts for millionaires that will result in tax hikes on the middle class and deep cuts in education and other investments we need to grow. Ryan’s extreme budget plan, which Mitt Romney has embraced, would make deep spending cuts now to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy, which would weaken the recovery and cost the economy jobs.

According to Harvard economist Jeffrey Liebman, based on Mitt Romney’s own projections on the impact of deep spending cuts on the economy, Paul Ryan’s budget plan could cost the U.S. more than 1
million jobs.

Paul Ryan’s plan would raise taxes on the middle class and cut taxes for the wealthy

Ryan’s extreme budget plan would benefit the wealthy while raising taxes on middle-class families, slowing our economic recovery and hurting seniors and the middle class.

Deep tax giveaways for the wealthy:

Paul Ryan’s extreme budget includes a tax “reform” plan that would make the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, and give millionaires an additional tax cut worth over $250,000 a year. Paying for these tax cuts for the most fortunate families would require higher taxes on the middle class, gutting
investments in our future, and ending Medicare as we know it.

Raise taxes on the middle class:

Just like Mitt Romney’s tax plan, middle-class families could pay thousands of dollars more a year in taxes to help fund tax cuts for millionaires. Ryan would cut or eliminate middle-class tax deductions like mortgage interest, charitable contributions, and health premiums.

Paul Ryan’s plan would gut middle-class investments

To pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest, Paul Ryan would gut investments critical to middle-class security.

This includes cutting Pell Grant scholarships for nearly 10 million students, cutting clean energy investments by 19%, and slowing scientific and medical research by eliminating tens of thousands
of grants.

Paul Ryan’s plan would end Medicare as we know it

Paul Ryan’s extreme budget would end Medicare as we know it, turning it into a voucher program which would increase seniors’ health costs by $6,350 a year. Ryan has also proposed a plan that would have privatized Social Security, subjecting seniors’ retirement security to the whims of the stock market.

Paul Ryan is severely conservative

Like Mitt Romney, Ryan’s severely conservative positions are out of touch with most Americans’ values. He would take us backward on women’s health and equal rights.

Paul Ryan would take us backward on women’s health:

Ryan cosponsored a bill that could ban in-vitro fertilization, as well as many common forms of birth control, including the pill. It could also ban all abortions, even in cases of rape or incest. He supported letting states prosecute women who have abortions and doctors who perform them.

Paul Ryan would take us backward on equal rights:

Ryan voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which helps women fight for equal pay for equal work. He voted against repealing the discriminatory policy of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and supports writing discrimination into the Constitution by amending it to ban gay marriage.

  • 25 votes
#1.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:20 PM EDT

"I'm not going to sit here and complain about coverage of the campaign. As a candidate, if you do that, you're losing."
-- Chris Christie

"It goes without saying that there is definitely media bias."
-- Paul Ryan

  • 24 votes
#1.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:26 PM EDT

There is bias, and the media show this to us everyday.

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:34 PM EDT

Mitt Romney chose the intellectual leader of the Tea Party as his nominee for vice president. By
doing so, Romney catered to the far right and doubled down on the failed top-down economic policies that crashed our economy and hurt the middle class.

#1 Ending Medicare as we know it

Romney and Ryan are committed to a plan that would end Medicare as we know it. They would create a voucher system that would increase seniors' health costs. Ryan even proposed a plan, which
Romney endorsed, that would increase costs for seniors by $6,350 a year. To cover for their own plan, they have been distorting the President's record. They have labeled the $700 billion that
Obamacare saved from trimming excessive payments to corporate insurance companies as "Medicare cuts." That's false, as Paul Ryan should know -- he includes these savings in his own budget.

#2 How Ryan killed President Obama's deficit reduction plan

The President has been fighting to protect and preserve Medicare as part of an overall plan to reduce the
deficit, and pay down our debt in a balanced way that lets us continue to invest in what we need to grow our economy. Last year, he proposed a "grand bargain" that not only would have extended the life of
Medicare but would have also resulted in trillions in deficit reduction. It asked both sides to make tough choices and compromise, including asking the wealthy to pay their fair share. A new report in the New York Times shows that Paul Ryan fought to kill the bipartisan deficit-reduction agreement because it
"would pave the way for Mr. Obama's easy re-election.” That sort of politics may be standard for
some Beltway insiders like Paul Ryan, but it's not what voters want in a vice
president.

#3 "Blatantly false" welfare attacks,

The Romney campaign released an ad that contains outright lies about the President's welfare reform efforts. President Obama has given states more flexibility so that they can increase their work placement rate among welfare recipients by at least 20 percent. Yet, Romney's ad says the President has ended the work requirement -- which the New York Times calls "blatantly false." President Clinton, who reformed welfare, said Romney's claims are "not true." Even Newt Gingrich said there's "no proof" that Romney's ad is accurate. The ad also says that President Obama was against welfare-to-work as an Illinois state senator -- another blatant lie. He worked across the aisle to pass Illinois' welfare-to work law, even winning praise from Republican leaders for being "not your typical party-line politician" and willing to find compromise to get it done. Paul Ryan's extreme plans for America would be a disaster for the middle class -- and the Romney campaign is trying to take the focus off them by lying about the President's record.

lLying Ryan a PATHOLOGICAL LITTLE LIER WHO EVEN LIED ABOUT THE TIME IT TOOK HIM TO RUN A MARATON.

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

But Kannin. Ryan never worked a day in his adult life.. He has been on the government dole since he graduated college.

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

There is bias, and the media show this to us everyday.

And Romney/Ryan are definitely losing this election.

  • 16 votes
#1.10 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

Witchking ...

lLying Ryan a PATHOLOGICAL LITTLE LIER WHO EVEN LIED ABOUT THE TIME IT TOOK HIM TO RUN A MARATON

No kidding! All of us still remember our personal bests! I still remember my vertical jump from HS!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 16 votes
#1.11 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

Medicare as our seniors know it can either be a small slow adjustment or complete collapse. Obama has not stated any direction other than his current one, which is headed for complete collapse. I suggest everyone realize the nation is no different than their own personal checkbooks. If there isn't enough in the account or the interest is raising the current balance, you must make adjustments, before the tow truck and front door lock box arrive. It is a matter of time. Vote wisely!

    #1.12 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:00 PM EDT

    Sailcat,

    Its possible, hell anything is possible. What does that have to do with media bias?

    • 1 vote
    #1.13 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

    "credit card" interest is raising the current balance....

    • 1 vote
    #1.14 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

    There is bias, and the media show this to us everyday

    There is bias, and Romney/Ryin show this to us everyday. If you aren't upper middle or wealthy class, devoutly Christian, and full of the family values as defined by them, you are 'those people', not worthy of their time and effort.

    • 11 votes
    #1.15 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

    What does that have to do with media bias?

    Easy, thetotas! Media bias is a boogeyman invented by the right wing lunatic fringe to make excuses for the fact...and it is a fact, little man...that your feeble-minded candidate is losing. Feel smarter? No? Why am I not surprised?

    • 7 votes
    #1.16 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:26 PM EDT

    Sleuth you really shouldn't use that name. It is a very high standard.

    If you were a sleuth, you would understand that when the Voting Americans allow a split of congress is it a time out! Those occur when the direction is thought to be wrong. The real problem for democrats is that once the "time out" was called, that was when the economy began to improve.

    This election will decide whether we will continue on the path to larger government that choses even more for you what you get, and what it takes from you.

    By you proclaiming

    VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET THIS YEAR!!!!

    VOTE AS MANY REPUBLICANS AND TEA BAGGERS OUT OF OFFICE AS POSSIBLE!!!!

    You are inviting an opposite, and equally wrong action by others.

    Doing what you say is not intelligent, for in it you sweep out both the good and the bad for the unknown. I know some really good Democrats, and some really good Republicans that are doing a good job at their offices.

    They deserve thoughful consideration, Not assinine, childish, thoughtless actions, divine by fatally flawed political extremism.

    • 3 votes
    #1.17 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

    anytime the media points out the republicans are compulsive liars or even asks them questions they don't like then that proves the media is biased. The "MSM" needs to be more like fox and not ask the republicans hard questions that might make them look bad if they answered truthfully. They need to give them softball questions about shopping and family life, not hard questions about policy and voting records. Those kind of questions just aren't fair.

    I have an urgent call to action for all conservatives, Monsanto is losing billions since Russia wont accept any more genetically modified corn thanks to those liberal, treehugging, granola eating hippies and their damned double blind studies where all the rats contracted when fed GMO's. So we conservatives need to do for Monsanto what we did for chick-fil-a and eat mass quantities of gnetically modified food as well as other products Monsanto makes like Bovine Growth Hormone laced dairy products and Diet soda and sugarless chewing with aspertame. If the liberals think it's bad then it must be good so lets consume mass quantities in support of a great American company like Monsanto. They helped us win the Vietnam war with their Agent Orange and now the are putting it directly in our food so lets do our part and support their efforts to make a profit, feed a starving planet.

    • 5 votes
    #1.18 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

    Hey First Read:

    Are you sure it wasn't :Friendly Ryan Starts "Family Under The Bus Tour".

    Because that's what his policies are all about.

    Hey Kannin, give me a hit of whatever you're smoking, it must be awesome...or bath salts!

    T. Money Trim/A Play Run-"If we lower the bar any further, we might hit a tunneling immigrant."

    • 8 votes
    #1.19 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:48 AM EDT

    All the polls in the battleground states are wrong, because they think that Obama is going to get the same kind of turnout he got in 2008.

    But he won't. Many of those college kids who went out to vote for the first time four years ago, are just going to sit this one out. Or they will forget to go to vote because they will be smoking their weed, and playing video games. The magic is gone...

    And some of the minority voters, who came out in record numbers last time, have been disillusioned during these past four years with the acrimonious and ineffectual Obama administration.

    .

    Obama supporters should get ready to be disappointed on Nov. 6! Then again, you've probably gotten used to being disappointed by now...

    .

    OBAMA HAS FAILED!

    TIME TO KICK HIM OUT!

    • 2 votes
    #1.20 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:58 AM EDT

    Like Ryan's plan Reagan's plan cut taxes mostly on the rich and promised unnamed deductions and loopholes would be closed later to pay for them. For Reagan the unnamed loopholes was the ability to deduct credit card and consumer interest. 90% of the tax cut went to the top 5% but 90% of the deduction loss was paid for by the middle class. Fool me once.

    • 3 votes
    #1.21 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:29 AM EDT

    Keep singing Ryan - its the only talent that you've really got (such as it is)...

    • 4 votes
    #1.22 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:37 AM EDT

    DB Akron....

    I figured you would be back tossing up a limp d*cked insult, complete with big words you can't define, and I guess I was right.

    Sleuth you really shouldn't use that name. It is a very high standard.

    Definition of "sleuth" for DB: "Sleuth is often a reference to detective work." "Sleuth is the collective noun for a group of bears."

    So a bunch of bears or a detective are the same as a "high standard" in your mind?

    They deserve thoughful consideration, Not assinine, childish, thoughtless actions, divine by fatally flawed political extremism.

    Here is another example of poor sentence structure, misspellings, and incorrect use of vocabulary. I'm sure it took you a long time to browse a thesaurus and compose this mess, but sounding smart just isn't something you're very good at. Next time just be concise and try to write coherent sentences.

    I will agree that voting a straight ticket doesn't necessarily guarantee the best candidates will be voted into office, as it's admittedly a narrow minded move.

    However, I've witnessed Republicans stick together on a number of issues, and not one of those issues has helped move this country forward. They've generally agreed to say and do the exact opposite of whatever Obama decides to say and do. They also decided, the night he was inaugurated, to do whatever it takes to make him a 1 term president. They effectively decided to not compromise in anyway that would help this country recover from a failed Republican experiment. In my home state of Indiana, a good Republican in my estimate, Richard Lugar, was beaten in the primaries by a Tea Bagger that proclaimed, "Now is not the time for compromise!" Lugar was painted as a moderate because he chose to work with Democrats in trying to solve the major issues our country STILL faces. Bipartisanship is now a sin Republicans cannot commit. Grover Norquist also made it a sin to raise taxes, although apparently the budget deficit is now a problem. I've never voted a straight ticket in my life, but this year I will! The only way the Republican establishment will understand that the American public dislikes their extreme right wing view, is by voting them ALL out of office. Maybe then we can get some moderates back on the ticket, and I can go back to voting for members of both parties.

    • 4 votes
    #1.23 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:31 AM EDT

    "It goes without saying that there is definitely media bias."
    -- Paul Ryan

    • Media bias ins't your problem Ryan --- your policies are.
    • 11 votes
    #1.24 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

    to Kannin way up there. Apparently you need to see some other tapes. Because I have watched and saw none of that. And when someone has to fall back on the media bias argument you are in big trouble. I think the republicans have a problem in that they want the media to do like Kannin did and make up stuff about how good someone is, only ask the easy simple questions they have prepared answers for and when they don't they are biased. The bias I see is that republicans apparently are sheltered from what actually happens on the road in the real world. I have asked them before and they don't see what these people do and stand for. If you don't know them, what they stand for and what they actually do how can you vote other than vote for a party that you think exists but hasn't for years. For instance, why did Ryan go into politics and what remains of that allegiance. Already enough to vote for the other party. And then what is his plans for our country and gov programs? That sums it up. When you know you won't vote for him. Not because you like gov programs but you know they can't all be destroyed and there is more to this country than 1% mostly who did not get their money by hard work but luck. And luck might only be the mney there for you to start a business. Ryan and Romney were both very lucky. If left to their own devices I am sure they wouldn't be where they are, as rich as they are. And have the attitudes they do which is the most important of all. When you are poor and you work to get rich, usually you understand what others need to do and then you try to go for that. To help them share in that good fortune. That is Obama. Not romney and Ryan who think you are just on your own. And that you can just get the money from your parents.

    • 5 votes
    #1.25 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

    Headline correction:

    RYAN KICKS FAMILIES UNDER BUS

    • 8 votes
    #1.26 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

    Ryan is totally anti-family.

    Unless your a millionaires Family

    • 6 votes
    #1.27 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

    Not once did "budget guy/numbers wonk/powerpoint guru" Ryan step forward and vote NO on any of Bush's expenditures. He went right along with the rest of the group, spending money we didn't have and kicking the can down the road.

    • 4 votes
    #1.28 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:23 AM EDT

    So Duqu, are you just copying and pasting the same silliness on a bunch of different stories? I could swear I saw almost the exact same diatribe elsewhere this morning.

    And sleuth32, you just shot yourself in the foot with your own 7th grade response to DB's reasoned approach (even if it did have some typos). DB is right, advocating a straight ticket on either side is hopelessly idiomatic. I have voted for R's before, and will again, if they happen to be the best person for the job. Unfortunately for the GoTP, given the stranglehold the TP has been allowed to exert on the Republican Party makes the likelihood rather slim this time around.

    • 3 votes
    #1.29 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:33 AM EDT

    TO: thetotas who wrote:

    "There is bias, and the media show this to us everyday."

    I think the media have been pretty much "telling it like it is".

    It's your candidate that's flawed not the media, and if you're complaining we know you have to be a Republican because Republicans are losing badly, which is very good news for everybody else!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 3 votes
    #1.30 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

    To kannin: you must be A republicanCrimeCartelRank&FileShill for MittTaxPittanceRommel, who also has a "knack" for math and finance at the cost to We American Citizens. Did you get dizzy sipping your kolaid forgetting that MittTaxPITTANCE latest example where 13.7%tax was paid by this person on $42,000,000 EEEZZZZ Money or $5million while most employed Americans pay up to 37% taxes or $15Million with a $10Million difference WE American TaxPayers pay for. We are paying your Master's tax liability of $10Million. And right at election time to boot!! What is Amazing is the select few number of Naive Americans who have beenConned/Fooled by the republicanCrimeCartelPropagandaMachine. Think about
    it... These Very Well monied, SnakeOil SalemenMittTaxPittanceRommel and his SideKick, Eddie Munster, are The Elitist Thug's economic Hitters Who Caused This Whole WORLD Disaster Starting with
    President Reagan and Most Assuredly Pronounced with KingGeorge The
    VacuumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001- 2008. These
    two Amoral Politaphiles are into Contolling and Manipulating
    America in their favor, at the pleasure of their 1-10%er and corporate Masters, ACTUALLY
    StealingAmerica's economic power. Research It: These Republican 1-10% wealthy
    and corporate Thieves have OVER $40 Trillion Dollars, OUR MONEY, Stolen From
    US with Their Phony Bank Fees and out and out Acoount Looting, Stashed in
    Overseas accounts in their names and registration numbered foreign accounts.
    Money needed for rebuilding America NOT Bloating their elitist
    "family wealth" for the future of their "Little Darlings" SUCH AS Rommels $48,000,000
    Malibu Mansion WITH anInHouse Car Elevator for his son's $180,000 Ferrari. Prez O is the ONLY Choice. These ARISTOCRAT ELITIST THUGS calling themselves "republicans" BELONG IN PRISON NOT in Congress or The WhitHouse. Try this one on for size:
    President Harry Truman in 1948: "The Republicans … will
    try to
    make people
    believe that everything the Government has done for the

    country is
    socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see
    that
    social
    security check you received the other day—you thought that
    was good for
    you,
    didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the
    world but socialism.

    Did you see that new flood control dam the
    Government is building over there
    for
    the protection of your property?
    Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new
    hospital
    that they are building
    is socialism. Price supports, more socialism
    for the
    farmers! Minimum
    wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad
    for you, my
    friend.
    Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your
    new
    car, and your

    home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a
    television set—you
    are just
    surrounded by socialism! Now the Republicans
    say, 'That's a
    terrible thing, my
    friend, and the only way out of this
    sinkhole of
    socialism is to vote for the
    Republican ticket.'" And, AND!,
    AND!!! that
    was 64 Years Ago!!!. The
    republicanCrimeCartel is still doing
    the same
    exploitation of people THEY ARE
    NOTORIUS FOR. BUT, according

    toKingGeorgeTheVacuumBrained, it is called "free
    market" capitalism;
    with
    families in the streets and 25% Unemployment and worse
    with

    MittTaxPittanceRommel and his buddy EddiMunster. Fellow and
    Sister

    Americans: A vote for ANY republicanCrimeCartelSoldier, Rommel, is
    a vote

    Against Yours and Your Family's Well Being. You Can Take That
    Advice To The

    Bank. Lyin'Ryan&Rommel: "That 47% WHO depend on the government- We
    DON'T CARE ABOUT
    THEM. I care about the 1-10%Evil Rich and EVIL EVIL
    Corporate Rich B@$T@RD$ Like
    ME*ME* ME*ME!!! Sister and Brother Americans
    Rommel and EddiMunster ARE NOT "The
    Dynamic Duo" Without A Doubt THEY ARE
    the DISGUSTING Duo. At Election time
    Listen to that InnerVoice, You're
    Guardian Angel; Let's KEEP Prez O Around the
    WhiteHouse; otherwise "Those
    Two" and their Pals will "CLEAN HOUSE" With US
    Payin' The
    Freight.

      #1.31 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
      Reply

      If you're upper or upper/middle class, then Ryan is about your family; otherwise, he's not much about you or your family at all.

      • 20 votes
      Reply#2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

      All republicans are alike....trumpeting family values, when they're willing to sacrifice the middle class to get a bigger tax cut to help pay for their million dollar campers that they tour the country in. It's time that all Democrats and anyone leaning away from these two imbeciles votes to clear out the whole lot of them. The only way to get moderates, for either party, back in office is to resoundingly vote against the extremists of the right. They have done nothing to help solve the problems, and have only compounded them.

      VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET THIS YEAR!!!!

      VOTE AS MANY REPUBLICANS AND TEA BAGGERS OUT OF OFFICE AS POSSIBLE!!!!


      • 21 votes
      #2.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:05 PM EDT

      Ryan- In it for his family, not yours. His kids should be in school. Oh well, it is most likely their one and only chance to ride a bus. After this it is back to the limo.

      He is advertising "real recovery." Again, that would be for wealthy families, not yours. Heck, those people have been laughing all the way to the bank for the last 30 years. A vote for their team means more tax cuts for the wealthy and less of everything for you but taxes.

      Romney/Ryan, they're not in it for you.

      • 13 votes
      #2.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

      The Republican ticket has NEVER been about the average working class family that can consist of one parent, gay parents, grandparents raising children ... well DIVERSE families! President Obama gets that and we get him.

      I really can't imagine anyone thinking that Mitt and Ann actually CARE about their lives and circumstances. Relating to voters is CERTAINLY part of being President. The R's missed that boat!

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 13 votes
      #2.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

      Not so fast " CUP CAKE"...no one believes a word your or Romney say's. Both of you have vowed to gut Medicare and Social security ..You tax plan falls flat you have NO formal training in finances ..Yet you say your the "NUMBERS MAN" Typical republican all hat no cattle !

      • 12 votes
      #2.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

      What do want government to do for you? Why can't you do it for yourself?

      • 1 vote
      #2.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

      Go USA -

      Stay off the roads, out of the national parks, don't call 911, and dear God, please NEVER thank a soldier for defending this country.

      Those are just a few of the things I cannot do that my country does for me.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 10 votes
      #2.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

      Ryan could care less about the middle class he cares about the super rich like Romney. Nothing in Ryans plan benefits the average American it's all about the wealthy.

      • 6 votes
      #2.7 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:31 AM EDT

      TO: Go USA-851295 who wrote:

      "What do [you] want government to do for you?..."

      How about they "zero out" OUR taxes, instead of just the rich?

      How about WE get all the tax breaks, and the rich pay all the taxes for a change?

      I have a better question: What is it that the rich folks want government to do for THEM that makes them pay $50,000 a plate to sit down with Mitt Robme and listen to Romney talk about how useless the elderly, the poor, and the middle class are to Republicans?

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 4 votes
      #2.8 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:23 PM EDT
      Reply

      True the Vote coordinators have recently organized a campaign to immediately collapse any post on this forum which seeks to expose their plans to engage in voter intimidation at polling places across the nation on Election Day, Tuesday, November 6. In the event that this post has been collapsed, please consider cutting and pasting the original content and re-posting anew under your own screen name.

      Fellow Dems, if you happen to be voting in person on Election Day, be sure to keep an eye out for official-looking although entirely unofficial Tea Party 'True the Vote' personnel loitering in or around your precinct, especially in hotly-contested swing states or in any state where a contest for a House or Senate seat is ‘too close to call’.

      In general, these uniformly-dressed, clipboard wielding True the Vote personnel have been instructed by their Koch Brother-funded mentors, wherever and whenever possible, to take up positions either at the entrance to or inside voting precincts themselves, standing in a modified form of military attention, side by side in teams of two, doing everything within their power to appear AUTHORITATIVE in an attempt to intimidate specific 'classes' of voters, i.e. African-American, Latino, and/or elderly non-Latino white Democrats, from exercising their constitutional right to vote.

      As unbelievable as it may sound, at present very few states have policies which prohibit people from loitering for extended periods of time either inside or outside of voting precincts, IF their observable behavior does not appear to pose either an immediate threat or imminent danger to voters or the voting process itself. The assumption has always been that after having voted, any reasonable person would head for the door and get on with their life. Well, not anymore, it seems.

      Therein lies the problem. Polling station workers are unpaid volunteers, and unless these True the Vote personnel make the mistake of becoming overtly aggressive, station workers may feel uncomfortable challenging their presence, especially when the True the Vote representative begins asserting a well-rehearsed litany of constitutional privileges or begins citing chapter and verse of thoroughly researched state or local ordinances governing precinct operations.

      So…

      If you see ANY True the Vote personnel at your precinct, or if you even SUSPECT that representatives from True the Vote are present and actively engaging in voter intimidation, exercise your right to inform the Precinct Captain that you do in fact feel intimidated, and that subsequent to casting your ballot you will be calling the police. THEN BY ALL MEANS DO SO.

      Intimidation at the polls is not only a violation of the 15th Amendment to the United States Constitution and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, it is also a violation of both criminal and civil law.

      If either the Precinct Captain or the local police fail to act, your next calls should be to the Office of the County Registrar of Voters, local television and news radio media outlets, and then to the FBI.

      Not because the FBI will come to your aid, but filing a complaint enables national numbers to be tracked. Be sure to phone the FBI within earshot of the Precinct Captain, if possible, and True the Vote representatives where practicable.

      After that, you have as much right to stand in opposition to the True the Vote personnel as they might have to stand facing incoming voters. If you feel so inclined, take out your cell phone cameras and begin recording their activity for immediate publication on social media. Just remember to do so without yourself causing a disturbance, in full view of witnesses, and NEVER make the mistake of touching anyone at any time.

      Fellow Dems, the Koch Brothers and their ilk are intent on influencing outcomes on Election Day AT THE POLLING STATIONS THEMSELVES. Fight back against these cretins, and fight back HARD.

      • 19 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

      Sounds like what the Black Panthers did in 2008 with voter intimidation.

      • 3 votes
      #3.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

      Chicago Lady,

      Please consider that while drawing a comparison between the 2008 'Black Panther' incident and the 2012 True the Vote conspiracy may be logical, as well as not entirely unexpected, an equally important comparison should be made regarding economies of magnitude, proportion, and scale.

      The 2008 'Black Panther' incident was an effort limited to two alleged individual members of the Black Panther Party and conducted at a single polling location in Philadelphia. Thankfully, it proved largely ineffective.

      The 2012 True the Vote project is a nationwide effort funded in large part by corporate interests in defense of their own long-term financial objectives. Hopefully, it shall prove equally ineffective.

      The 2008 incident saw two alleged members of the Black Panthers seek to intimidate voters by representing themselves AS themselves, as street thugs and militant provocateurs.

      The 2012 conspiracy seeks to intimidate voters through color of authority, with volunteers presenting themselves, insofar as they might, as AGENTS OF THE STATE.

      The 2008 incident was designed to influence the outcome at a single precinct.

      The 2012 conspiracy is designed to influence the outcome of an entire election.

      Disagree as we might on some things, keeping the polling stations free of intimidation from ANY source and on ANY scale should NOT be one of them.

      • 20 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:28 PM EDT

      I agree with you on voter intimidation and it should not be tolerated at any polling precinct.

      • 14 votes
      #3.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

      Chicago Lady,

      Thank you.

      May I ask what your response would be should you encounter True the Vote at your polling place?

      • 12 votes
      #3.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

      All 4 of them, in a predominately black polling site, this is a nationwide effort to subliminally intimidate, I live in Florida and will be on the look out for any form of intimidation, implied or otherwise. I certainly don't need to have some one standing around with a clip board watching and taking or pretending to take unnecessary notes. I don't live in a third world country where the voters need to be watched and monitored. Impartial observers ok, the optimum word is impartial and not party affiliated.

      Obama 2012

      • 13 votes
      #3.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

      MSNBCFE - I would report it and hopefully be able to record it on my phone for proof.

      • 14 votes
      #3.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:43 PM EDT

      MSNBCFE -

      I haven't seen a collapsed comment on FR is weeks. Maybe I'm running an updated version??? I don't know .. but I think the collapse monkeys aren't going to get what they want ....

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 13 votes
      #3.7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

      Chicago Lady,

      Let's hope that it doesn't have to come to that, but thanks again for keeping an open mind.

      • 12 votes
      #3.8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:50 PM EDT

      Thank you for posting this MSNBCMFE. True the Vote seeks not to level the playing field, but to tilt the table.

      I live in a fairly red area, but I'm no Stepford Wife. True the Vote won't show up here, but what you posted needs to be disseminated in places where they are likely to show up.

      • 9 votes
      #3.9 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

      MSNBCMFE, keep those conspiracy theories coming,we need the laughs.find out who was on the grassy knoll?

      • 3 votes
      #3.10 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

      bipolar,

      Simply google 'True the Vote'. THEN we can talk about conspiracy theories.

      • 13 votes
      #3.11 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:56 PM EDT

      hey bipolar echo - we already caught your guys - in Florida, Nevada, and Colorado - more to come trying to steal the votes

      And now the Republican party with their tails between their legs - are not signing up any voters - hurrah!

      • 9 votes
      #3.12 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:22 AM EDT

      what was acorn?? They were a great group right?? You libs are funny! After all you POTUS help start it. Be proud!

        #3.13 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 8:55 AM EDT
        Reply

        All republicans are alike....trumpeting family values, when they're willing to sacrifice the middle class to get a bigger tax cut to help pay for their million dollar campers that they tour the country in. It's time that all Democrats and anyone leaning away from these two imbeciles votes to clear out the whole lot of them. The only way to get moderates, for either party, back in office is to resoundingly vote against the extremists of the right. They have done nothing to help solve the problems, and have only compounded them.

        VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET THIS YEAR!!!!

        VOTE AS MANY REPUBLICANS AND TEA BAGGERS OUT OF OFFICE AS POSSIBLE!!!!

        • 20 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:04 PM EDT

        Not so fast " CUP CAKE"...no one believes a word your or Romney say's. Both of you have vowed to gut Medicare and Social security ..You tax plan falls flat you have NO formal training in finances ..Yet you say your the "NUMBERS MAN" Typical republican all hat no cattle !

        • 10 votes
        #4.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:59 PM EDT
        Reply

        It's all about family alright,,, how much can we take from this family, how much from that one. Obama-Biden 2012 in a landslide.

        • 20 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

        Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. Romney/Ryan want to lower the tax rates and broaden the base. Shouldn't all Americans contribute to the support of the federal government? If not, then why some and not the others? And shouldn't those who don't contribute be considered to be on the dole?

        Romney/Ryan 2012

          #5.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

          Go-USA ...

          Why don't you say EXACTLY what Mitt & crew want to do by "broadening the base?" They want to take away deductions for households that while using those deductions they don't pay federal income tax. Little things like mortgage and charitable deductions. . . .

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 15 votes
          #5.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

          TO: Go USA-851295 who wrote:

          "Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. Romney/Ryan want to lower the tax rates and broaden the base..."

          We've been paying VERY close attention, I heard myself what came out of Mitt Robme's mouth about his "Top Down" economic agenda which would give Romney himself a big fat tax cut, along with the rest of the 1%ers.

          I also heard with my own ears how Romney supporters are telling outright LIES to people on the phone, claiming that Democrats intend to gut Social Security and Medicare when Republicans know only a Republican agenda would gut Social Security and Medicare.

          In view of these gross misrepresentations, as well as all the harm I recognize would come to average Americans under any Republican agenda, I could NOT in good conscious vote for ANY Republican at this time.

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 3 votes
          #5.3 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

          Usa,,, you obviously have no clue. Obama-Biden in a landslide 2012. Watch and weep.

          • 1 vote
          #5.4 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 4:15 PM EDT
          Reply

          Real Clear Politics is consistently cited by both FOXNEWS and NBCNEWS as a current source for reliable averaged polling data at every level of American politics.

          Real Clear on Monday afternoon reduced the number of total 'toss-up states' still in play at the national level to six.

          Only Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, Iowa, and Nevada have yet to be placed in either their Obama or Romney camps.

          Beyond that, of the forty-four states no longer considered toss-up, Obama can lay claim with relative certainty to receiving 269 electoral votes to Romney's 191, and everyone knows that 270 electoral votes wins the Presidency outright.

          So there it is.

          Assuming the present trajectory of the race continues, by winning any ONE of the six remaining toss-up states, when added to the total number of electoral votes from states no longer deemed toss-up by Real Clear Politics, the election could most certainly be declared essentially decided.

          At present, with only 36 days left in the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama leads in five of the six remaining toss-up states.

          In FL, with 29 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.0%.

          In VA, with 13 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.4%.

          In CO, with 9 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.1%.

          In NV, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 4.0%.

          In IO, with 6 electoral votes, Obama's lead is 3.5%.

          Obama trails only in NC, with 15 electoral votes, where Romney's lead is 0.7%.

          If the President takes any ONE toss-up from among Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, or Iowa, the presidential race should be effectively over.

          Conversely, for Romney to pull off an upset, he has NO CHOICE but to win ALL SIX of the remaining toss-ups. ALL SIX.

          A herculean task for Mr. Romney, to be sure. In Paul Ryan's world, however, and with all apologies to his oft-quoted mentor, Ayn Rand, the task might come down to the degree to which Atlas shrugs.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:15 PM EDT

          MSNBCMFE -

          A herculean task for Mr. Romney, to be sure. In Paul Ryan's world, however, and with all apologies to his oft-quoted mentor, Ayn Rand, the task might come down to the degree to which Atlas shrugs.

          Well, according to Chris Christie, we are going to see a totally new campaign from the GOP on Thursday morning .... yet another version of R&R - are we up to version 10 yet???

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 13 votes
          #6.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

          MSN, Rachel Madow reported tonight that the rnc has discontinued voter registration in 5 swing states because of the debacle here in Florida with the falsified registrations, also exposed that rnc pollsters have identified themselves as belonging to the State Voter Registration Office in trying to register republicans only. Democratic registrants were requested to tear up the registration form and fill out another leaving party affiliation blank. dirty tricks are abounding, remember folks voting is a RIGHT not a privilege.

          Obama 2012

          • 15 votes
          #6.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:48 PM EDT

          skyparrot ...

          the debacle here in Florida

          "Here we go again!" Couldn't help myself! Always remembering 2000! I'm sure Florida wants to distance themselves from making that kind of mistake again. At least, I HOPE so!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 13 votes
          #6.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:04 PM EDT
          smitty1118Deleted

          Stop cutting and pasting, those executive orders are all automatic and left overs from other administrations, just renewals. Gets some new material, worn this one out.

          Obama 2012

          • 13 votes
          #6.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

          Rachel Maddow is an idiot.

            #6.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

            Really? You totally fell for a chain email!!

            Obama has issued 138 EOs, not 900+

            Dude, snopes it!

            • 13 votes
            #6.7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

            smitty ...

            WE'RE funny????? I just googled the first one of yours 10990 and that was signed by John Kennedy in 1962!!!! What a STUPID post! I'm not going to go through the rest of your BS rant ....

            http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=58928

            Obama/Biden 2012

            • 14 votes
            #6.8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

            MSN,

            Of all the services, the best two I have seen is Dave Leip's site and election Projections. These two get polls that RCP doesn't get.

            There is a problem though with the polls we see thought. They are mostly paid for by the news media. The news media's first priority is to create a story.

            You should be hearing the polls tightening. I laugh at this. I wasn't taking conservatives word on the reasons for the Obama gap growing. I was watching any internal numbers and can tell you that the most of the largest leads were done by further stretching the 2008 mix as though 2004 didn't exist. This, despite polls showing a fall-off in enthusiasm among minorites and college kids. These two groups experienced the most enthusiasm and phenominal change in numbers and can be said to have put Obama over the top in 2008.

            This week, the polls publishing their methodogy are pretty close back to the 2008 level. 2012 is not going to be 2008. It is going to be somewhere between 2008 & 2004. If an averge of those two elections are used, This race is a dead heat.

              #6.9 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:02 AM EDT

              re: smitty1118

              Do you guys ever get tired of LYING and thinking that Google cannot expose your LIES?

              Obama only signed 135 executived order from 2009 to the present.

              h t t p: // www. archives.gov/ federal-register/ executive-orders/ obama.html

              • 4 votes
              #6.10 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 9:06 AM EDT

              Democratic registrants were requested to tear up the registration form and fill out another leaving party affiliation blank. dirty tricks are abounding,

              There may be some (make that many) misdeeds regarding the RNC registration efforts in FL, but leaving the party affiliation blank is hardly a dirty trick. Party affiliation doesn't control which candidate an individual may vote for in general elections. In fact, by registering Democrats as Republicans, they've actually made it more likely that a moderate or liberal candidate will be elected in primaries. Perhaps more Democrats should register as Republicans.

                #6.11 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
                Reply

                Women should beware. Remember that like Todd Akin, Ryan is solidly in the GOP = Genital & Ovary Police camp. Can't imagine why we'd want to vote against our own self-interest. Because hubby tells us to?

                • 22 votes
                Reply#7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

                Well said, the egret. What's perhaps worse: they actively acknowledge their plan to mistreat a whole complement of groups. And they don't care.

                And since when does pimping out your children count as "family friendly?"

                • 14 votes
                #7.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                I'm embarassed he's even running.. I really believe people will write this guy off...

                • 11 votes
                #7.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

                Lyn, KCMO ... I know Romney thought he'd get a bump from choosing Ryan. What he got was a candidate that the tea partiers love more than him. SAD little state of the GOP! (But lately, we'd expect nothing less!)

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 12 votes
                #7.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

                Lyn, maybe going to get a little more embarrassed, Akin now states that he believes private businesses should be able to pay their employees what they want, and if they want to pay a man more than a woman they should be able to, got the booger on video and Claire is going to be running it, cringe factor is going to be very pronounced. Sorry.

                Obama 2012

                • 11 votes
                #7.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

                But Ann said that Romney really cares about women and the economy is way more important than our right to make our own medical decisions or control our own reproductive destinies. I mean, it's totally OK for a child to give birth to her child and grandchild all at once, right? Think of the economyyyyyyyy!!!!

                (do I really need to hang a snark tag on this?)

                • 10 votes
                #7.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

                sky parrot - The utmost sad thing about equal pay for women was settled in 1964 in the UK - when women rose up against Ford and they won

                Hell they made a movie on this - what a backward country we are

                Roe V Wade - 1973

                Contraceptives - 1960

                Crap even Father Knows Best Only Had Two Children - why do you think that was?

                • 10 votes
                #7.6 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:30 AM EDT

                I wonder if his wife talked about her experience lobbying in Washington? I bet she could tell some stories...

                  #7.7 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:25 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  As long as your family hasn't divorced. Also don't be a poor woman looking for an abortion and you know you can't afford a family because republicans will force you to have that child and call you a lazy whore who has to go on welfare when the child is born.

                  Or ne lesbian parents willing to raise poor orphaned children. Or Gay men parents willing to raise poor orphaned children

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:35 PM EDT

                  All I can say for the second in line for the Republican ticket is that at least Ryan knows where his homestate is.

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#9 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

                  The state of delusion?

                  • 12 votes
                  #9.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                  Dang VirginiaDemocrat! I forgot about THAT State! LOLOL!!!!

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                  Layton, I believe Va. is one of the states that rnc has stopped voter registration drive. I'm sure the Vaginal Prober is hunkered down, good serves the bugger right.

                  Obama 2012

                  • 9 votes
                  #9.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                  Nope. Voters can still register in Virginia. One doesn't have to register through a political party.

                    #9.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:18 PM EDT

                    Go USA ....

                    Reading comprehension is not your strong suit ... skyparrot stated that the RNC has stopped their voter registration drive. They did not say you couldn't still register to vote. SHEESH!!!

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 8 votes
                    #9.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:27 PM EDT

                    Oooooooh...subtle.

                    Nicely done!

                    Now, more than ever, we really ought to see Unfit Mitt's tax returns and see where his home state really is.

                    (Well, the money lives in the Caymans)

                    • 8 votes
                    #9.6 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:02 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Typical... Republican family values of the white, straight, rich Christians. No one else can join the club.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#10 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                    Bigot much?

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:15 PM EDT

                    nope, just telling the obvious truth, the republicans are what they are.

                    Obama 2012

                    • 9 votes
                    #10.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                    Lar - Republican Values can always hop a plane to Mexico and have a safe abortion - heck my friend did it in the fifties

                    All it takes is money!

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.3 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:33 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    He was supposed to bury 47, but he blurted it out. The problem with 47: "47 victim" is "47 victim", no matter how you spell it. For regular people, it crystallized The Game: they're just out for the rich. Period.

                    And "class warfare"--where the rich are, therefore, the victims? OMG.

                    Obama. The Senate. Pick up Governors and House seats. 3 Supreme Court justices and 150 judgeships in the lower courts. And the country makes out. Not a bad outcome--unless you're a "special" victim. Special.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#11 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:46 PM EDT

                    Give it up Ryan, Americans aren't buying your lying eyes!

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#12 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

                    Not so fast " CUP CAKE"...no one believes a word your or Romney say's. Both of you have vowed to gut Medicare and Social security ..You tax plan falls flat you have NO formal training in finances ..Yet you say your the "NUMBERS MAN" Typical republican all hat no cattle !

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#13 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:58 PM EDT

                    Those "family values" Republicans are the ones that usually have a skeleton in the closet, their own skeleton! Betcha $10,000 Paul Ryan has a familiarity and fondness of penis.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#14 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:01 PM EDT

                    A fondness for penis just like you LIB TARD....have you been hangin out waggin your "winkie" with Anthony "wiener man" wiener again? You goobers are SO lame......

                      #14.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

                      Seriously? That's the best you've got? Please see your post below where I make clear exactly what I, and anyone that reads any of your posts, think of you.

                      Pathetic.

                      • 7 votes
                      #14.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:08 PM EDT

                      bucsdad ...

                      I'm sure buc is embarrassed that you are his dad. This LIB TARD goober thinks your entire post is totally LAME and of NO value and to quote VirginiaDemocrat, "pathetic" as well.

                      Obama/Biden 2012

                      • 6 votes
                      #14.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:30 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Hey give it up LIB TARDS...nobody's buying your "million dollar baby" bull@!$%# anymore...we need leaders who can lead NOT bull@!$%#ters who run around the country hangin out with their "rich hollywood" friends while the middle class crashes and burns. Get a clue you goobers....its time we got REAL leadership back in the while house!! Romney/RYAN...2012....yeah, gonna be SWEEEET!!! Yeehawww!!!

                      • 4 votes
                      #15 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                      The use of the pseudo-word "Yeehawww" automatically gains one the label of "mentally retarded."

                      • 9 votes
                      #15.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                      bucsdad ...

                      Wow??? Got a little hater vibe going in your post????? REAL leadership!!! HAHAHAHAHA! What has Romney ever led (besides Annie's horse back to the stables?) What has Ryan ever voted for that he will man up to voting for??? That was a fun little rant/read.

                      Just another LIB TARD voting Obama/Biden 2012!

                      • 9 votes
                      #15.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:07 PM EDT

                      Yeeeehawww....VA LIB TARD.....just don't wag your "winkie" at me....it's probably really puny.....

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

                      A little on the hysterical side with the post, take a deep breath and hold. Elephant tool.

                      Obama 2012

                      • 6 votes
                      #15.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

                      I'm not a libtard, actually a right of center independent who has no intention of voting for the R&R ticket common sense and education dictate my actions at the voting booth.

                      • 10 votes
                      #15.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:12 PM EDT

                      Oh yeah...I'll do that. I've referred to your lame comments and decided that you are all a bunch of mindless tools....its true LIB TARDS run in packs cause they don't have an original thought among them. And, I just love making fun of you morons....its SO cool....YEEEHAWWW.

                      • 2 votes
                      #15.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

                      Why the interest in my penis? I see, you're just another closet homosexual Republican. There's nothing about which to be ashamed. Come on out of the closet and have some pudding like all the good gay cowboys!

                      • 7 votes
                      #15.7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                      SKYPARROT...that's a REALLY cool name. Did you think that up after you took a bong hit with "Barry and the CHOOM gang? You LIB TARDS make me smile.....

                        #15.8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:16 PM EDT

                        Wow....I don't know ANYTHING about pudding and GAY cowboys, but I bet you could teach me. I bet you know a lot about hamsters too...BIG BOY!!! HA HA HA.....I scream laughing at you morons!!!

                          #15.9 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:20 PM EDT

                          Pass the dube, wanna a cookie, good kush, should try some calm your old gnarly elephant down toad.

                          Obama 2012

                          • 4 votes
                          #15.10 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:21 PM EDT

                          Hey and GDALE6...you may not consider yourself a LIB TARD....but, if you are dumb enough to vote for "Barry" after the last 4 years.....you qualify. I'll grant you a special exemption....HA HA HA.

                            #15.11 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:22 PM EDT

                            That was satire, right?

                            You're way too good at convincing people that you believe that Romney is a leader.

                            • 4 votes
                            #15.12 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:23 PM EDT

                            SailorGirlSoCal ...

                            You're way too kind! bucsdad is certainly off the dad rocker and into something that he shouldn't be!

                            Obama/Biden 2012

                            • 6 votes
                            #15.13 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:32 PM EDT

                            bucsdad - you know how you get rid of a tick   Also one of god's creatures you either say a prayer and kill it or give it to someone like you - and hopefully since Willard wants to get rid of all Lyme's disease in Virginia - you might be immune because your venom might kill the tick before you get infected 

                            Can I watch the bucsdad against Willard's magic elixir to cure Lyme Disease in Virginia 

                            Last I looked these ticks are carried by the deer - oops - kill all the deer in Virginia 

                            • 5 votes
                            #15.14 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                            The right wingers really think their ranting hate filled spewing rants will swing independant voters to their man. Interesting.

                            • 3 votes
                            #15.15 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:24 AM EDT
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                            Ryan's policy about explaining his and Mitt's economic plan.. It's a new version of "don't ask, don't tell".

                            • 10 votes
                            Reply#16 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                            What are the republican idea/ideal family values? Shrieking and continuously screaming family values and I have yet to be told what those "values" really are. We are not republicans and because of that I assume our family "values" are not in line with "real" values. Honesty, integrity, compassion, kindness, generosity of pocket book as well as spirit, respectful, moral, ethical and we taught our kids to always do the right thing and to know the difference; my 25 year old says "always mom," our 16 year old has to have attitude adjustment periodically but he has a core, we did well. I don't believe we qualify as having the proper values to suit today's republican party, and that suits me just fine, because I don't care for them either.

                            The ryans can cuddle up all they want, liars always hang together.

                            Obama 2012

                            • 8 votes
                            Reply#17 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:06 PM EDT

                            Yeah....its true. LIars do hang out together....first you have Joe Biden the (current) VEEP who is a plagiarist (a.k.a a liar) and " Billy Bob" Clinton who lied under oath about sticking a cigar "up yonder" while in the oval office (as President I might add)....you LIB TARDs have cornered the market on liars and are too dumb to admit it...but, I must tell you...I certainly appreciate your self-righteous claims about the repubs bending the "truth"...I think its a hoot!!! HA HA HA..please keep it up. I can't tell you how much you amuse me.....

                              #17.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:29 PM EDT

                              Sad, such desperation.

                              Obama 2012

                              • 4 votes
                              #17.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                              Wow little buc .... you are certainly putting a lot of sexual innuendos into your posts. I would advise that has nothing to do with politics, but in your little world apparently they do. That is pretty bizarre! Larry Flynt your poster boy?

                              Obama/Biden 2012

                              • 4 votes
                              #17.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                              Shhhhhh! All will be revealed after the election. There's just no time for details. The specifics of the magic budget are irrelevant. Family Values!! Look at Romney's hair! Hey, look at Ryan's sub 3 marathon! Ryan has pretty eyes!

                              It's all windowdressing on an empty showroom, skyparrot. Their values are malleable and vary depending on who is listening and who is paying.

                              • 7 votes
                              #17.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:36 PM EDT

                              You LIB TARDS are just so clever/lame.....right "little" LAYTON?

                              • 2 votes
                              #17.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

                              Sailor, true, Family "Values" up for the highest bidder, not really surprised, I just don't think in those terms.

                              Obama 2012

                              • 5 votes
                              #17.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

                              You know, bucsdad, I think I have figured out why Romney's neck doesn't turn. He's injured himself by talking out of both sides of his mouth at once.

                              The list of Romney's lies, big and small, would take up a lot of space.

                              From a character standpoint, look at who you're backing.

                              You support a man who pinned down a classmate and forcibly cut his hair...terrorizing him and Romney doesn't remember the incident. You can bet the kid who was terrorized remembered it.

                              Your boy dressed up as a cop to stop people. Isn't impersonating a cop an offense? Of course it is.

                              Dog on roof? Evade serving in Vietnam while pushing for the war? Pro-choice? Not so much now. Health care for everyone? Not really.

                              Your boy hasn't released his tax returns prior to 2010 and what we know is really disturbing.

                              What we don't know is probably more disturbing.

                              We know that he has amended his tax returns to fit his narrative in an attempt to obscure his voter fraud.

                              He can contradict himself multiple times in the same paragraph. Face it, you hitched your wagon to one of the more immoral stars in the GOP.

                              If Romney is your vision of righteous, your moral compass needs to be recalibrated.

                              • 8 votes
                              #17.7 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:49 PM EDT

                              Layton, ever notice that the people who hate "teh gays" the most seem to be the ones with the most vivid homoerotic fantasies? I mean, damn, but do they ever put the time in to describe every last detail!

                              Read the Saturday Hate Mail on DKos and you'll see what I mean.

                              (ever notice that the most ardently homophobic GOP guys seem to be the ones arrested for stalking pages, wide stancing in airport bathrooms or driving drunk from gay bars?)

                              • 6 votes
                              #17.8 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                              SailorGirlSoCal....

                              You know, bucsdad, I think I have figured out why Romney's neck doesn't turn. He's injured himself by talking out of both sides of his mouth at once

                              Totally laughed out loud at that one! Excellent post! Have a wonderful evening!

                              Oh and bucs, "little" Layton? What the he!! is that supposed to mean? another innuendo? I'm female, sparky ... man but you are overtaken with sexual connotations this evening ... you do know what they say ....

                              Obama/Biden 2012

                              • 6 votes
                              #17.9 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                              Yeah....its true. LIars do hang out together....first you have Joe Biden the (current) VEEP who is a plagiarist (a.k.a a liar) and " Billy Bob" Clinton who lied under oath about sticking a cigar "up yonder" while in the oval office (as President I might add)....you LIB TARDs have cornered the market on liars and are too dumb to admit it...but, I must tell you...I certainly appreciate your self-righteous claims about the repubs bending the "truth"...I think its a hoot!!! HA HA HA..please keep it up. I can't tell you how much you amuse me.....

                              Clearly republicans are the honest ones. Following comments from Fox news.

                              2. Deceiving

                              On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.

                              The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

                              Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

                              Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz288GwUwLL

                              • 2 votes
                              #17.10 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:31 AM EDT
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                              Repubs are getting more shrill each day as they see Romney/Ryan campaign imploding.

                              Ann is right, Romney's mental health is suspect, he is wild-eyed and incoherent lately.

                              Obama/Biden 2012, to keep America and Americans on the road to recovery.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#18 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

                              I hope Ryan highlights Obama's bribing of Lockheed Martin to disregard the law.

                                Reply#19 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                                Prove your accusation or shut up.

                                Obama 2012

                                • 5 votes
                                #19.1 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:24 PM EDT

                                UHHHH....skypuppet is "breaking bad"....he doesn't like ANYONE calling the "messiah" exactly what he is...."a world class B&&$it artist. Que music: "Wind Beneath MY Wings"....I think that's appropriate.

                                  #19.2 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                                  still sorry and sad.

                                  Obama 2012

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #19.3 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                                  skyparrot ...

                                  Tossing you an aspirin ... if you're like me ... between USA and buc, we both need that or a big ol' slug of Crown on the rocks!

                                  Obama/Biden 2012

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #19.4 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                                  Why not....both of you probably aren't working any way...HA HA HA.

                                    #19.5 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:40 PM EDT

                                    Layton, you have a Crown and I'll have a Jack, clink, glug, ahhh!

                                    Go home boys you make my hair hurt.

                                    Obama 2012

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #19.6 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:44 PM EDT

                                    Layton, you have a Crown and I'll have a Jack, clink, glug, ahhh!

                                    ======================================

                                    I'll toast you both with some tequila here on the Lefty Coast, Layton and Sky.

                                    Seriously, though, no drinking games for the debates. If I have to drink each time Mittens smirks, lies, evades, prevaricates, zings, avoids, attacks, projects, changes his mind or claims to be for the 100%, I'll be hammered before the moderators are done with the intros.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #19.7 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:11 AM EDT

                                    SailorGirlSoCal ...

                                    Seriously, though, no drinking games for the debates. If I have to drink each time Mittens smirks, lies, evades, prevaricates, zings, avoids, attacks, projects, changes his mind or claims to be for the 100%, I'll be hammered before the moderators are done with the intros.

                                    AMEN! The smirk ... I'm sure his little debate coach couldn't get that thing out of him ... wanna bet ... $10 K?????

                                    Enjoy that tequila ... love the Lefty Coast! :)

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #19.8 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:18 AM EDT
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                                    CNN is reporting that Obama practiced his debate tonight against Max Headroom.......apparently Max melted down when asked to produce his tax returns.......he was sent on the LYin Ryan bus tour until the stench goes away....

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#20 - Mon Oct 1, 2012 11:54 PM EDT

                                    Electoral College - 270 NEED TO WIN.

                                    Real Clear Politics - Obama 269 Romney 191

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#21 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:12 AM EDT

                                    Sorry kids R and R are Toast .most people all knew that . WE watched your clown car . WE knew you where toast .

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#22 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:46 AM EDT

                                    Seriously , Repubs have lost their minds .

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#23 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:51 AM EDT

                                    Why is Ryan in Iowa? It's not a state Obama will win!

                                      Reply#24 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 5:49 AM EDT

                                      This past week end, a REPUBLICAN, came up to me about voting, for the R/R ticket, I felt my forehead, and told him I did not get up this morning with STUPID WRITTEN ON MY FOREHEAD. He got very insulted. I told him every AMERICAN WOMAN, should vote for the DEMOCRATS, because they as a party, are a party of HATE, and I did not think they held my point of view on a lot of subjects. He of course did not know I did not have my coffee yet, and without that I get witchy. He proceeded, finally when all else failed, I told him he must have gotten up with stupid on his forehead, because english must have been his second language, because he sure wasnot understanding anything. Go Claire MCCasskil in Missouri, I know of a lot of woman voting for you against akin. that man is a nut case. along with every other REPUBLICAN in office and running. Ryan would not know family friendly if it bit him in the butt

                                      • 4 votes
                                      Reply#25 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

                                      You should look back into the democrat party and the history of segregation legislation. The left was able to remake their image during the Kennedy years but prior to that, the biggest racists were dems.

                                      As far as abortion, another brilliant ploy to paint this as a "womans health" issue. It's not of course, unless, in THE VERY RARE CASES of the mother's health and rape/incest. However, abortion has become as casual as ordering a cup of coffee at Starbucks. And the far left, as in Obama's senate days, clings to the notion if a late term abortion is "unsuccessful" and the fetus survies, the aborting doctor should be allowed to basically kill the baby.

                                      There are other reasons than just the moral question to rein in this abortion culture- it is not a wise health choice to rely on abortion for birth control. It is also not cost effective.

                                      Pro choice - choose the pill, a condom or an IUD.

                                        #25.1 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

                                        But it is a womens health issue, MOMINNJ.

                                        What business it is of yours or the governments to tell a woman that she must carry a pregnancy to term, no matter what the cicumstances.

                                        Rape results in 35,000 pregnancies a year and the Romney/Ryan plan, verily the GOP platform, is that there is to be no abortion under any circumstances. That's 35,000 women who would be forced to bear a child. Each year.

                                        Some of those clinics that provide abortion services are the same clinics that women rely on for low-cost access to mammograms, well-woman exams, birth control. In states like Virginia, where Gov. Ultrasound has mandated trans-vag ultrasounds (entirely unnecessary and at the woman's expense), and the state has now decided to target abortion providers with building code restrictions that they must comply with within 2 years or face closure. So, got raped in VA and want an abortion? You'll need to pay to get an unnecessary, invasive medical procedure and listen to a doctor who is forced to lie to you about the legal medical procedure you want/need to get.

                                        Back to the 35,000 women impregnated through rape each year. Not all of those women would necessarily choose abortion, but they really ought to have the right to. Shouldn't women of modest means be able to get breast cancer screenings, pap smears and other reproductive health services aside from abortion?

                                        Ask some of those women if they made the decision to abort easily. Ask them if it was as simple as Tall or Venti, whipped cream or none, regular or decaf. Ask any woman who chose to abort if it was as casual as ordering at Starbucks. Ask them why they did it.

                                        Want abortion to be rare? Make birth control affordable and accessible. Educate people about birth control, how the human reproductive systems work, how to make respectful decisions about sex.

                                          #25.2 - Tue Oct 2, 2012 12:05 PM EDT
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