Yet another Obama ad hitting Romney on '47%' comments

 

The Obama campaign has confirmed to First Read that it's airing yet another TV ad on Mitt Romney's "47%" comments -- the third one so far. 

This particular Obama ad -- to air in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Virginia -- is entirely in Romney's own words from that May fundraiser in Florida, where the GOP presidential nominee's remarks were secretly recorded.

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Keep hammering him Mr. President!

The middle class, seniors, disabled, soldiers, students, minorities who make up the 47% of who Willard views as "moochers" appreciate YOU giving us a voice!

The amount of contempt Willard holds against anyone who wasn't born with a platinum rattle up their ass is palpable!

Same thing with his snooty wife!

  • 29 votes
#1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:20 AM EDT

The middle class, seniors, disabled, soldiers, students, minorities who make up the 47%

especially them parents with 2+ kids that didn't use birth control and now lower their income tax liability to zero...oh wait. Wrong argument

  • 21 votes
#1.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

It's kinda hard for Willard to spin this one. It's him saying it and there's NO DOUBT about it!

What a TOOL!

What a FOOL!

  • 23 votes
#1.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do not support Barrack Obama.

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

Again, when left off his leash, Willard tells the truth;

Mitt Romney told voters in Ohio on Wednesday that his plan to widely overhaul the tax code would not result in a huge tax cut for them.

“By the way, don’t be expecting a huge cut in taxes, because I’m also going to lower deductions and exemptions,” Romney said, according to various news media reports

Now, if you're a 1 percenter, he is definitely your guy!

  • 20 votes
#1.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

There is nothing better that fighting back the lies with one's own words on video.

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:06 PM EDT

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do indeed support President Barrack Obama.

That is a FACT!

  • 20 votes
#1.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

Yet another Obama ad hitting Romney on '47%' comments

Good! Stick It to the Stench! Way to go Mr. President!

Same thing with his snooty wife!

Talk about dragging dead weight! You would think Queen Ann was a Democratic operative! Keep up the good fight Annie!

"The sun will come out tomorrow. You can bet your bottom dollar..."

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

ZMan2012

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do not support Barrack Obama.

DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!

Just Z Facts Man

What % of the electorate do these vets belong to? Their numbers will not outnumber Africans American, Latinos, Asians, Native Americans, LBGT, women, the elderly, the poor, and the youth no matter what you put up.

4 more 4 44

Obama/Biden



  • 15 votes
#1.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

The reason this ad is effective is it speaks directly to the perception that Romney has given voters. Romney has gone way YONDER out of his way to show that he is an elitist, concerned only for his own desire to pose on the White House balcony.

This just affirms the truth about Romney.

  • 13 votes
#1.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

That's right Obama... keep on spinning what Romney said... Maybe you think that works in your favor... spin = lie.

You are just like your fellow libs that only hear what they want to hear, repeat what they hear, no matter how inaccurate it is and stand by the lie as if the lie has credibility.

Real people will remember this on Nov 6th... and it will reflect in the way they vote.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do not support Barrack Obama.

Let's see, now. The AARP boos Ryan in Florida. That doesn't look good for Romney. Plus this Reuters article reports that American soldiers favor President Obama. Read 'em and weep:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/us-usa-poll-military-idUSBRE84C02120120513

Where are you buying your fantasies these days, Zman? I hope you got them cheap because they don't seem to be working for you.

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

... spin = lie.

There is no spin. That's a recording of Romney speaking. How is it being spun?

  • 16 votes
#1.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

The Obama Economic Record

. Inauguration Today Change

Unemployed Americans 12.5 million 12.5 million 0

Unemployment rate 7.8% 8.1% 5%

Gas Prices $1.85 $3.85 208%

Federal Debt $10.6T $16 T 35%

Debt per person $34.7K $47.1K $12.4K

Misery Index 7.8 12.9 65%

Food Stamp recipients 32 M 45 M 41%

Health Ins prem $3,354 $4,129 23%

Home Values $193K $172K -11%

Americans in poverty 39.8M 46.2M 6.4M

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

Here's one of the 47%-ers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpAOwJvTOio

Sold her soul for a phone. It doesn't take much.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

Say, Brian, I was wondering. Why did you pack so many sour grapes in your insane survivalist stash? They seem to be making your posts seem, well, a bit more shrill and desperate than normal. And that's really saying something, too.

  • 14 votes
#1.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

Why are all of our friends on the right so testy today? Desparation is upon them.

The walls are closing in. They've seen the light......................

Oh wait!!! That's not a light. It's Romney's campaign flaming out!

  • 14 votes
#1.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

One more thing, Zman. The GOP filibusted to kill a jobs bill for Veterans just last week. How do you think that is going to sit with vets? Think they will jump on Romney's broken-down bandwagon now?

Romney has lost the seniors' votes and the veterans' votes. It doesn't really matter, though. He's lost just about all of America's votes, anyway.

  • 13 votes
#1.17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

Best AD yet! In Romney's own words. Ha!

Romney is CLUELESS.

The guy doesn't understand people nor the world, his bubble insulates him.

  • 13 votes
#1.18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

Why are all of our friends on the right so testy today?

You have to admit Fuzzy, it is amusing watching their heads SPIN! lol

It is going to get worse and we get closer to election day!

They're screwed and they KNOW it!

  • 14 votes
#1.19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

fuzzy44 said:

... spin = lie.

There is no spin. That's a recording of Romney speaking. How is it being spun?

It is being spun because Obama is putting in a false wall there that Romney didn't. Romney said that the 47% will vote for the president no matter what. These are the entitlement people, and Romney was absolutely correct. Now Obama is saying that Romney doesn't like the 47%, has something against them and believes they are second class citizens. This couldn't be further from the truth... but Obama is beating this like it was Romney's meaning when it wasn't. That's the spin = lie.

  • 3 votes
#1.20 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

Brian, at the end of the video, what did he say? Not to worry about those people?

47% of Americans? NICE!!

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

Now, if you're a 1 percenter, he is definitely your guy!

ah the class envy. Feisty care to explain how beneficial to society, American society if we're all proletariats?

  • 3 votes
#1.22 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

Sailcat-2064101

Say, Brian, I was wondering. Why did you pack so many sour grapes in your insane survivalist stash? They seem to be making your posts seem, well, a bit more shrill and desperate than normal. And that's really saying something, too.

It's sour grapes because I am not hypnotized by Obama? It's sour grapes because I can see what Obama is doing to this country and you can't? I'd rather have sour grapes than rotten grapes. Rotten grapes is what you have... and the smell of Obama putrefies the air I breathe.

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

Rotten grapes ferment and become wine!

  • 5 votes
#1.24 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

CA - Don't provoke Betty... she might say something and end on vacation again... WAIT, what am I saying? Provoke away... that was the most peaceful week we had around here in a long while.

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

fuzzy44 said:

Brian, at the end of the video, what did he say? Not to worry about those people?

47% of Americans? NICE!!

Since you seem to be an expert on what he said... what was his meaning. Let's see if the comprehension part escapes you.

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

fuzzy44 said:

Rotten grapes ferment and become wine!

I can see you've never made wine before... You go ahead and use rotten grapes...

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

You want to talk about lies, how about the guy who claimed Romney was responsible for his wife's death. You know the one, Obama tried to distance himself from, but yet refused to denounce. That very same guy who appeared on Obama's page for President, but he had nothing to do with the ad, yeah right. And then, let's talk about the killing of our Ambassador, but he had no knowledge it was a terrorist attack, but now it is coming out that he did have knowledge. I can go on and on with his lies.

  • 3 votes
#1.28 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

Since you seem to be an expert on what he said... what was his meaning

1 I don't have to be an expert to hear a recording.

2 what was his meaning? Please tell us what he meant. Inquiring minds want to know!

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

and the smell of Obama putrefies the air I breathe.

The only stench we smell around here is of YOU, the unemployed, misogynistic, racist, homophobe who can't take care of his own kids!

Provoke away... that was the most peaceful week we had around here in a long while.

So much for having me on ignore... eh?

As you demonstrate daily, you are incapable of telling the truth if your life depended on it! lol

Like being a Viet-Nam war vet, having a J-O-B, or being polled by phone to name just a few...

Get OFF First Read and find a JOB - you government assistance sucking parasite!

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

Brian makes me laugh! Fermenting grapes make whine, you know, brian. I thought you might like to know.

  • 9 votes
#1.31 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

Again, when left off his leash, Willard tells the truth;

kind of like Obama when he wanders from his See n Say

Yeah Brian, not much of a provocation. Hey Feisty, can you think outside your limited dialog? I know Feisty doesnt understand the ramifications of a proletariat society.

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

Had this been a secret recording of President Obama, the so-called mainstream media would be intensely investigating the source and reporting on the illegality of the recording... as it is, I've heard nothing about it.

  • 2 votes
#1.33 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

We can all thank Joe Scarborough for the change to Romney's slogan from "Believe in America" to "Oh, Sweet Jesus".

Oh Sweet Jesus, here comes Stench!

Oh Sweet Jesus, have I got a tax break for the 1%.

Oh Sweet Jesus, have I got a tax hike for the 47%.

Oh Sweet Jesus, get out the pity vote, and vote Romney - Ryan!!

  • 7 votes
#1.34 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

Fuzzy,

It's kinda hard for Willard to spin this one.

Hard for Willard to spin it, but look at Brianb whirling like a dervish trying to explain it away. Watch him spin and spin and spin. You just know he's going to smash into a wall or go over a cliff or die from exhaustion. But his desperation is so great he can't help himself.

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

intensely investigating the source and reporting on the illegality of the recording

What was illegal about it?

  • 6 votes
#1.36 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

The group had an expectation of privacy and were unaware that someone had planted a camera in the private residence. Would it be legal to place a camera in your home without your consent?

  • 2 votes
#1.37 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

I'm still waiting for Brianb to tell me what Romney really meant. (With his higher level of comprehension)

  • 5 votes
#1.38 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:47 PM EDT

Ceasar -- You wrote:

ramifications of a proletariat society.

It's the Tea Party ideology that wants only land owners to have the right to vote. Roman ideology perhaps.

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

The group had an expectation of privacy

By all means let's keep our views private so the peasants don't know how we feel about them.

That's a tough break for Romney. He spoke and someone recorded it.

It's no wonder he shies away from interviews.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

but look at Brianb whirling like a dervish trying to explain it away. Watch him spin and spin and spin.

And here I simply thought Brianb was simply demonstrating his best Brian Boitano on ice routine.

  • 7 votes
#1.41 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

The group had an expectation of privacy and were unaware that someone had planted a camera in the private residence.

You best brush up on your Right to Privacy laws. And how do you know if the group had an expectation of privacy. Were agreements signed?

  • 7 votes
#1.42 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

According to Romney and his apologists I must be a double moocher as I am a senior and a veteran.

The fact that I served this country and kept Romney's butt out of the military doesn't matter does it? The fact that I worked 40 years and put aside money in retiremant savings to augment the Social Security that I paid into doesn't matter does it?

The only thing that matters is that, no matter how much I have earned the benefits I am called a moocher. That is an insult to me and to others like me.

I wonder if Willard has guts enough to go before a crowd of VFW old guys and call them moochers.

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

It's the Tea Party ideology that wants only land owners to have the right to vote. Roman ideology perhaps.

what a joke DCIA, do you get paid to lie or is it just a natural talent?

Hey guess what too with the Romans, they(landowners) also were the ones fighting wars, not the layabout beggars. You know skin in the game type thing. But that is ancient history.

  • 2 votes
#1.44 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

ZMan2012

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do not support Barrack Obama.

Any person with basic math skills can put 2 and 2 together to figure out that mathematically it would be impossible for President Obama to have been elected in the first place.

But for the sake of argument let's pretend your statement is true - isn't it awful for Romney to pi$$ on almost 50% of his supporters by calling them victims and moochers?

  • 7 votes
#1.45 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

Job1

Seniors, soldiers, and veterans do indeed support President Barrack Obama.

That is a FACT!

since when do Republicans allow "little" things like FACTS and factcheckers get in their way?

  • 6 votes
#1.46 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

Adler-273784

According to Romney and his apologists I must be a double moocher as I am a senior and a veteran.

you lazy bastard!

  • 5 votes
#1.47 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

Obscure news articles. Hey did you find the racists remarks too. YOu know part of the tea party platform.

DCIA did you also play along with MSNBC durning the RNC 'spot the darkie'? Im sure it was like where's waldo

    #1.49 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

    Mitt has handed this weapon (hammer 47%) as a gift to Obama, asking Obama to beat him (Mitt) in the fatal spot.

    Thanks, Mitt.

    • 3 votes
    #1.50 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

    Hey did you find the racists remarks too. YOu know part of the tea party platform.

    As a matter of fact, yes. This is Dale Robertson, one of the founders of the tea party and operator of TeaParty.org expressing his opinions at a TP rally. His sign says a lot about the TP's values, doesn't it?

    http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

    • 2 votes
    #1.51 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
    Reply

    "The Obama campaign has confirmed to First Read that it's airing yet another TV ad on Mitt Romney's "47%" comments"

    In a related development, First Read and the Obama campaign (but I repeat myself) has confirmed that 95% of the First Read headlines and stories will spin positively toward Obama....

    • 12 votes
    #2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:24 AM EDT

    Bob, Bob, Bob.....I'm probably about the 900th person to point this out to you, but no one's forcing you to come here and read a single word. So why do you? And don't give me that tired old "Because you libbie idiots make me laugh" routine, because you're so obviously not having much fun. Do yourself a favor, Bob - there are a million right-leaning websites out there that would make you a lot happier. Go read one of them. Better yet, why not do like Feisty did while on her time out, and get outside and get some fresh air and actually do some work to get out the vote for YOUR candidate? Seriously, I think you'll find it a lot more rewarding.

    • 20 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

    You know Bob, everytime ANYTHING happens with/to Mitt & Co., they run over to Fox to whine and cry. Maybe if he was a little more cooperative with the rest of the press, they just might have something more positive to say about him.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 21 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

    all Obama has to do is take all Romney's before and after positions, and make an ad. There is so much material that he could play a different one each day and not run out of material.

    • 17 votes
    #2.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

    Mitt wants a mulligan on that hole!

    If only he could retroactively unattend that fund raiser.

    • 13 votes
    #2.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

    Bob in Va.

    Yup! That's exactly what they do. No lie is too disengenuine as not to be portrayed as the absolute truth when it comes to Barry O.'

    I am so sick of reading about how Obama is a wonderful kind, caring man, while Mitt Romney wants to eat your children.

    I'm so sick of being told that Obama "understands the problems of the middle class" (he doesn't by the way. His upbringing and education were anything but middle class. He lived overseas, and in Hawaii fer-cripes-sakes, and he went to college at Columbia University!!!!!!!!! Last time I looked, "middle class" people can't afford to do those things!!!!!!!!!)

    But, Mitt Romney lived a life of success, wealth and privilege and that makes him evil!

    ...and I'm extra sick of being told how wonderful and classy Michele ("I'm finally proud of my country") Obama is, while Ann Romney (who has dealt with BOTH Multiple Sclerosis and Cancer!!!!!) is such a horrible *itch.

    But, this is what we're going to have to deal with for as long as Obama PIMPS the media out.

    (Yes I said it you MEDIA TYPES. Obama has "turned you out" like streetwalkers. How's it feel to his "trollips")

    DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!

    • 6 votes
    #2.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:10 PM EDT

    Bayllie - John Stewart did that on the Daily Show monday night, it was quite humorous btw.

    however, nothing can take away the fact that the country is headed back into recession, blame congress if you want, but that is what is happening.

    • 4 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

    Layton-3733410

    "You know Bob, everytime ANYTHING happens with/to Mitt & Co., they run over to Fox to whine and cry."

    And even FOX has Obama ahead!

    • 11 votes
    #2.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    VP Bob,

    If you don't like MSNBC, please post else where. By the way Willard will also lose Virginia.

    • 11 votes
    #2.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

    You folks on the right know that President Obama is going to crush Willard and it's driving you even more crazy.

    • 8 votes
    #2.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

    however, nothing can take away the fact that the country is headed back into recession, blame congress if you want, but that is what is happening.

    FORWARD!!!

    • 5 votes
    #2.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

    Job1 - more crazy? you mean we will turn into Democrats?

    • 6 votes
    #2.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

    In a related development, First Read and the Obama campaign (but I repeat myself) has confirmed that 95% of the First Read headlines and stories will spin positively toward Obama....

    Good! Why would they support the Weather Vane? They would just have change their articles every hour to cover up Mitt's flip flops.

    • 12 votes
    #2.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

    ZMan2012

    His upbringing and education were anything but middle class. He lived overseas, and in Hawaii fer-cripes-sakes, and he went to college at Columbia University!!!!!!!!! Last time I looked, "middle class" people can't afford to do those things!!!!!!!!!)

    Dude you NEED to get out more. No middle class in Hawaii?? wow

    • 5 votes
    #2.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

    ZMan2012 and Bob in Virginia-5210392

    First Read is just reporting the facts, guys. A secret recording was made of Romney's remarks to donors, and now the Obama camp has used it in an ad. How is reporting those facts showing bias in favor of the Democrats?

    FR also reported Obama's "you didn't build it" "gaffe," and all kinds of attacks Republicans have made on Obama. I will grant you ,there are more liberal hosts on MSNBC than on the broadcast networks, but they also give Joe Scarbough, that obnoxious conservative, a prime spot on their line up.

    • 15 votes
    #2.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

    First Read is just reporting the facts

    LMAO. Obama is sooo cute, i'll walk over hot coals for him.

    • 5 votes
    #2.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

    Ummm............ Was that or was that not Mitt Romney talking on that video?

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say It's a FACT that Romney made those comments.

    • 14 votes
    #2.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

    sirie - yes, let's put the blame where the majority of it belongs -on Congress - and vote the majority of Republicans out. Then we can get things done.

    ZMan2012 - have you ever been to Hawaii??? They have poor, middle class, upper middle class and rich - just like the rest of the country!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 14 votes
    #2.17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

    In a related development, First Read and the Obama campaign (but I repeat myself) has confirmed that 95% of the First Read headlines and stories will spin positively toward Obama....

    QUICK!

    Someone call probe-boy a WHAAAAAAMBULANCE!

    For someone who hates FR as much as he does, he sure spends an inordinate amount of time around here!

    • 12 votes
    #2.18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    For someone who hates FR as much as he does, he sure spends an inordinate amount of time around here!

    The politics here may not be to his liking, but he definitely associates with a better class of people on this site than he generally finds roaming his trailer park.

    • 9 votes
    #2.19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

    vote the majority of Republicans out. Then we can get things done.

    because we all remember 06-10 was such a successful and prosperous time. Now we should start to hear the 'filibuster' boogeyman.

    So just say it, 'I SUPPORT A ONE PARTY SYSTEM EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR NEED, EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITY'

    • 3 votes
    #2.20 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

    Obama went to a private, prestigious high school in Hawaii. He attended Columbia and Harvard. If he was poor, or even middle class, where did he get the money to do these things? His family wasn't middle class or poor. Take a trip to Honlulu and ask the people there if Obama's family was poor.

    • 2 votes
    #2.21 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

    You ever heard of scholarships? Wait. Look who I am talking to.

    • 10 votes
    #2.22 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

    You ever heard of scholarships?

    And student loans.

    • 8 votes
    #2.23 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

    Yep.

    • 5 votes
    #2.24 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

    fuzzy44: you mentioned the one word that no Republican can countenance... it is like Kryptonite to a GOP campaign...

    I'm talking about, FACTS.

    • 4 votes
    #2.25 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

    but he definitely associates with a better class of people on this site than he generally finds roaming his trailer park.

    And all this time I thought he lived in a Van down by the RIVER!

    • 3 votes
    #2.26 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

    Well played, Devie.

    • 1 vote
    #2.27 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:39 PM EDT
    Reply

    Here's what I've figured out about presidential candidates. The ones from Texas, if they get elected, become war-mongers. And the ones from Massachusetts run terrible campaigns and never get elected.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

    Steve, after the LBJ and the W experience, I'm all for a consitutional amendment banning Texans from running for President. Rick Perry would also be another good example as to why.

    • 13 votes
    #3.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

    LBJ was not a "war monger", the war in Vietnam was his unlucky inheritance, though he did escalate our involvement.

    JFK ran a pretty successful campaign, and I think he was from Mass.

    You could look it up...

    • 9 votes
    #3.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

    Think Progress:

    The budget and tax proposals put forth by Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney would not lead to the economic prosperity and job growth he has claimed, according to a new study released this week. In fact, the Economic Policy Institute found that Romney’s plans would actually lead to a net loss of jobs over the first two years of his administration, and the losses could grow even larger if Romney were to stick to his promise of reaching a balanced budget.

    The deep spending cuts Romney has promised are the primary reason for the job losses, EPI’s analysis found. If Romney does pay for the tax cuts, as he insists he will, the spending cuts would get even deeper and thus cause the loss of even more jobs. Another independent analysis, meanwhile, found that fully paying for Romney’s tax cuts would require raising taxes on the middle class.

    http://thinkprogress.org/

    ____________

    Romney was not prepared to run for the presidency. He just assumed he could walk in, between his money and the conservative media. Most of them are now bailing ship, to save themselves.

    Romney did not have a thoughtful vision for America. He had nothing.

    And I'm hearing that over and over and over from just "regular" people.

    • 13 votes
    #3.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

    What a torture this will be for Mitt hearing those words again and again..............words matter. No wonder Ann said it's hard especially when you're defending a lying husband.

    • 8 votes
    #3.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

    Hi, Pat -

    Maybe Romney should have checked with his wife first. You know, "this is HARD"!

    On a lighter note - have you seen the trailers yet for the "Les Mis" movie? Looks awesome! I should warn everyone else in the theater on December 26th that I absolutely WILL be singing along!

    • 10 votes
    #3.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

    JoAnne, no I haven't seen the trailers yet. Russell Crowe is in it if I remember correctly? I so so so love that story. That book was a give to all of humanity I have always thought. Thank you for reminding me. I will have to check out where and when it's playing near me.

    As far as Romney's wife, I think Barack Obama got the better partner. Michelle is working so hard in this campaign and the crowds are coming out in the thousands to see her.

    She is such an inspiration you can tell from all the photos taken during the campaign. People just love her.

    • 13 votes
    #3.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:46 AM EDT

    LBJ certainly was a war monger. He took a situation where we had a few hundred military advisers in VietNam and he poured a half million US soldiers in there.

    As for JFK, although it's true that he won, he managed to defeat Nixon by only a tiny sliver of the vote. Given the circumstances at the time, he should have won by much more than that.

    • 3 votes
    #3.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

    SteveR-2067355

    LBJ certainly was a war monger. He took a situation where we had a few hundred military advisers in VietNam and he poured a half million US soldiers in there.

    Um try over 16,000 under Kennedy.

    • 8 votes
    #3.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

    Blackcatwhitecat is correct...again...;-)

    May I recommend;

    "The Best and the Brightest" by David Halberstram as perhaps the best history of the origins of the Vietnam War.

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Given the circumstances at the time, he should have won by much more than that.

    Pray tell, Why?

    Is that opinion based on some historical analogy?

    Ike was a very popular 2 term President and his VP was the candidate.

    The Challenger was the scion of a wealthy highly politically connected family.

    The election was contested down to a few votes...

    Sound like anything that has happened recently?


    http://www.amazon.com/Best-Brightest-David-Halberstam/dp/0449908704/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348762170&sr=1-1&keywords=best+and+the+brightest

    • 4 votes
    #3.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

    Blackcatwhitecat is correct...again...;-)

    That comes with having no 'skin' in the game!

    Was Kennedy's Irish Catholicism not an issue also?

    • 5 votes
    #3.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

    Steve, after the LBJ and the W experience, I'm all for a consitutional amendment banning Texans from running for President. Rick Perry would also be another good example as to why.

    LMAO! Now that's an admendment I could get behind!

    • 5 votes
    #3.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

    JFK ran a pretty successful campaign, and I think he was from Mass.

    You could look it up...

    Yeah and add Silent Cal to that list too.

    • 4 votes
    #3.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:27 PM EDT

    JFK ran a pretty successful campaign, and I think he was from Mass.

    You could look it up...

    Yeah and add Silent Cal to that list too.

    Going back the last 50 years we have Dukakis, Kerry and Willard. Maybe in the olden days candidates from MA knew how to run a campaign <g>. Of course, the good folks in MA could blame MI, and UT for Willard. I could be wrong but the last Michigander to run was Gerald Ford and he lost to Jimmy Carter! Don't know if any Utahan(?) has ever been nominated.

    • 4 votes
    #3.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:36 PM EDT
    Reply

    RCP averages from this date in 2008 and 2004...

    Obama-47.9

    McCain-43.6

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/election_2012_vs_election_2008_four_years_ago_today.html

    "W"- 50

    Kerry-43.6

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/election_2012_vs_election_2004_eight_years_ago_today.html

    Puts things in perspective...

    Why does it seem that many Romney supporters are already looking for an excuse (the skewed polls, the media "in the tank" for the President etc.) for his defeat?

    This is/was the Republican candidate's race to LOSE, is it the candidate, the campaign or both?

    • 8 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:27 AM EDT

    It's women ... revenge of the vagina ... they have developed teeth, sharp ones and it is a helluva lot more than vasectomies this time..

    • 14 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

    dangerfield, I just think it's the candidate. People don't like him and their instincts tell them he is out for the rich.

    Bob Shrum's video was devastating earlier in the year where he showed the Ted Kennedy ads when he ran against Romney. All those people in those ads who had lost their jobs because of Bain. Also, last night it was brought up that one of Mitt's first ads showed that he took Obama's words out of context.

    Mitt did nothing about it. I had actually forgotten about that ad, but it did hurt Mitt.

    But between the Libya comments and the 47% comments, these were Mitt's own words. Also, I think him on his boat this summer in NH didn't help either to be honest.

    He's just so wrong for where we are as a nation right now. So totally wrong.

    • 12 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

    I will say both. Unless the Romney campaign has a secret weapon they are not disclosing yet (such as secret tape), I have rarely seen such ineptitude. For his defense though, he was "boxed in" during the republican primary. However, this is where a real leader rises, dictating the discourse based on his convictions and the power of persuasion, and not letting self been the victim of extremists or circumstances.

    • 2 votes
    #4.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
    Reply

    SInce Pennsylvania is no longer considered a swing state in this election, it looks like we won't be getting as many political ads as usual this time around. For the most part, that's a welcome break.

    But I think I could see this ad 20 times a day and still not get tired of it.

    Thanks, Governor Romney. You, ummm, couldn't have said it better yourself.

    • 12 votes
    #5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:28 AM EDT

    JoAnne,

    So agree with the "writing" technique of Governor Romney. Between his ads and the late night comics just using his own "spoken word," it's been quite the interesting campaign. Funny that this morning on CBS John McCain said the President was running the most vicious campaign ever - difficult to be "vicious" when you're only stating your opponent's own words.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 12 votes
    #5.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:41 AM EDT

    Anyone who wants to see a political ad 20 times a day....should get their wish...and spare the rest of us from having to watch ANY at all. I do no want to see either candidate during the Playoffs and world series, so here's hoping that the commercial time buyers are listening...to you!

    The 3% "undecided" should all be strapped down with their eyes forced open like Malcolm McDowell in "A Clockwork Orange" and subjected to ads until the choose a side, or their heads explode, whichever comes first...

    • 4 votes
    #5.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:42 AM EDT

    SInce Pennsylvania is no longer considered a swing state in this election

    Isn't that something? No longer considered a swing state.

    Thank you PA.

    • 9 votes
    #5.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

    Pat,me being from Pa. you're welcome.

    • 7 votes
    #5.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:07 PM EDT

    dangerfield -

    Have you actually SEEN a baseball game in the last five years? They're nothing BUT advertising any more! You can barely read the scoreboard for all the ads plastered on it, every last scoring recap and defensive play of the game and the pitch count and speed and the scores from around the league are "sponsored" by some mega-corporation, there's that truly annoying green-screen "billboard" behind home plate that keeps changing, and don't even get me started on the stadium names themselves. It's one of the big reasons I can't take professional sports seriously anymore.

    And maybe I was exaggerating to make my point, but my point stands - as political ads go, this one doesn't employ that creepy ominous music, those tired old gloom-and-doom voice-overs that tell you so disdainfully how so-and-so LIED and is WRONG FOR AMERICA, and it doesn't have any of those cheesy black and white, badly-lit pictures of the candidate that are designed to make you think they're a vampire or something. It's just a simple, devastatingly effective ad.

    But hey, enjoy the playoffs and the Series. When does it start this year - Thanksgiving?

    • 7 votes
    #5.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

    The worst Baseball game I have ever seen was better than the best political ad.

    Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and...serenity...

    • 3 votes
    #5.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

    dangerfield

    The worst Baseball game I have ever seen was better than the best political ad.

    Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and...serenity...

    and the theoretical possibility a game could go on for ever. Time stops when at the ballpark.

    • 3 votes
    #5.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

    BCWC-

    Ain't it the truth! My best buddy and I were at the Yankee-Oakland game that ran for 14 innings this past Saturday. A's went up by four in the 12th inning and we left...Yanks tied it and I watched them win from home! It was glorious, and I am not even a Yankee fan...

    I take it that you've read Thomas Boswell...

    "Why Time Begins on Opening Day" is one of the best essays on Baseball...

    • 2 votes
    #5.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

    The 3% "undecided" should all be strapped down with their eyes forced open...

    SNL had a great sketch about the all important undecided voters. I think John Stewart did as well. In them they broke from the MSM's usual take that the undecided are morally and intellectually superior beings struggling over the complex minutia of policy details. Instead they showed them as disinterested, uninformed, simpletons, from SNL skit - "Who are the candidates running? How long does the presidency last anyway. I mean if we are electing a dictator I would like to know."

    It is time to realize that a majority of the undecided really don't care enough to make an informed choice. They are the reality TV generation, those that obsess about their gadgets - the twit followers, and facebook nation. People who have procrastinated this long just so they could keep up with the Kardashians or Dancing with the Stars or American idol. Unfortunately the election comes down to their ilk.

    dangerfield have to disagree with you, College football is hands down the best.

    • 4 votes
    #5.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

    dangerfield

    I take it that you've read Thomas Boswell...

    "Why Time Begins on Opening Day" is one of the best essays on Baseball...

    That I have not, but I will try to find it online. One of my best days ever was a doubleheader watching the Expos. First game went 18 or so innings and the second 12 or so ... 10 hours of pure bliss until I awoke in the morning with a vicious sunburn on my face. Donald Sutherland was sitting a few seats down from me, I think he went through two bottles of scotch.

    • 2 votes
    #5.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

    Haha...he looks it!

    I was at the very first Expos game ever, at Shea Stadium...they won, but the season got better for Met fans that year, 1969...

    --------------------------------------------------------

    Mark-

    I have always considered college football, and college basketball to be the province of the compulsive gambler...unless you actually attended the school you're rooting for...

    • 2 votes
    #5.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

    dangerfield

    We will no longer talk of baseball ... 1994 and Expos were the best in the world leading all 74-40 ... arrg!

    • 3 votes
    #5.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

    For all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these "it might have been."

    -John Greenleaf Whittier, "Maud Muller" (1856)

    in the immortal words of the Brooklyn Dodger fan

    "You was ROBBED!"

    • 2 votes
    #5.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 PM EDT

    Okay, one more word. The Expos had one of the all time great farm systems and it enriched many a team with many a great player.

    • 4 votes
    #5.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

    JoAnne---too bad the Republicans who control our state house won't be giving Mitt Romney the gift of our state's electoral votes. I can't wait to vote for my state senator and representative.

    • 3 votes
    #5.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

    Steeler Fan -

    Personally, I can't wait to see the looks on Mike Turzai's and Tom Corbett's faces when they realize that all the money they just wasted on that Voter ID law isn't going to allow Romney to win our state after all.

    And all those millions of dollars just because Governor Corbett can remember exactly ONE case of voter impersonation fraud sometime back in the 1990's. Good thing we don't have anything better to spend all that money on, huh?

      #5.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:45 PM EDT
      Reply

      First off, Romney was right. I mean spot on with everything he said. There are too many people in this country who believe that they are entitled to my (or for that matter, even your) money; and, there are too few people who want to work hard and earn whatever they have. A good many of them will indeed vote for Obama because they believe they're going to get "free stuff" from him.

      Secondly, I notice that the statement about entitlement is matched with a photo of two old-time veterans. I assure you, Mark, that veterans, and veterans groups do not support Barrack Obama.

      DEMOCRATS FOR ROMNEY 2012!

      • 6 votes
      Reply#6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

      ZMan2012

      Secondly, I notice that the statement about entitlement is matched with a photo of two old-time veterans. I assure you, Mark, that veterans, and veterans groups do not support Barrack Obama.

      But then there is this ...

      www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/14/us-usa-poll-military-idUSBRE84C02120120514

      • 4 votes
      #6.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

      YOU can assure me? YOU?!!!! And YOU are.....?!!!!!!!

      • 6 votes
      #6.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:18 PM EDT

      SteveR-2067355

      Stevie boy...... The Gospel (MATT. MARK. LUKE & JOHN) must be excluded from the Mormom bible......I think they are using "The APOCRYPHA BIBLE" or something to do with Joseph Smith their leader. By the way, recently, I discovered, that MORMONISM was and is a racist organization. In 1947 they change the rules about "BLACKS"....."BLACKS" were forbidden to attend their church because their belief were BLACK-PEOPLE was related to LUCIFER.....

      DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT....GOOGLE ROD PARSLEY & MORMONISM.......

      • 3 votes
      #6.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

      It seems true that most places/houses of worship are open to anyone.

      But from what I've seen, that is not true for the Mormon Cathedrals...

      non-Mormons are NOT allowed...How do the guards at the door know who is and who is not.......Do the Mormons carry ID cards?

      • 3 votes
      #6.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

      I am older and a veteran and I DO support Barack Obama. By the way I EARNED my money. I saved Romney from having to go to war. I put into Social Security for over 40 years and should get somehting out of it. I have saved in an IRA to augment the SSI. (SSI stands for Social Securit INSURANCE). I actually resent it when someone thinks of me a a freeloader including Zman. You, sir, are a putz.

      Oh, and I am a Democrat for Obama.

      • 2 votes
      #6.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:39 PM EDT

      I'm a veteran...

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 2 votes
      #6.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:12 PM EDT

      Veteran right here.

      Not voting for O and JoJo the chimp.

        #6.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:50 PM EDT
        Reply

        I guess neither you nor Mitt Romney believes in Matthew 19:21.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:58 AM EDT

        I see Democrats for Romney has one vote zman. Yours. I don't see a bunch of Democrats here clamoring for Romney.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

        Layton-3733410

        "Funny that this morning on CBS John McCain said the President was running the most vicious campaign ever - difficult to be "vicious" when you're only stating your opponent's own words."

        Reminds me of "Give 'em hell" Harry Truman. Truman said that all he did was tell the truth and it sounded like hell!!

        • 8 votes
        Reply#9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

        Didn't Truman also say "The buck stops here"? Not like the current administration who inherited everything and likes to point fingers and lay blame to anyone else?

          #9.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:52 PM EDT
          Reply

          It would be funny if it were not so sad.

          47% depend on the government for everything.....SAD

          A safety net is one thing to help out but this is out of control.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

          Yeah, just wait till there is only one guy working, and that one guy out there supporting 320 million "unfortunates"

          • 2 votes
          #10.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

          greg

          Among that 47% are several hundred multimillionaires who don't pay federal taxes, due to deductions and exemptions, either. 47% does not refer to people on government aide.

          Among the 47% are people working in retail stores, restaurants, daycares, nursing homes, as home healthcare workers and farmers. These lower income people may not pay federal income tax, but they likely pay Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, state taxes, property taxes and sales taxes.

          For Romney to critize the 47% who don't pay federal taxes, while only paying 14% tax on the millions he earns on his investments a year, is why people call him out-of-touch.

          • 6 votes
          #10.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

          47% depend on the government for everything.....SAD

          And what percentage of the population is dependent upon the government for something? Why, that would be 100%. Now take your pity party elsewhere, for your 47% comment is completely untrue.

          • 7 votes
          #10.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

          Amy - hasn't the 47% been defined over and over again for these guys? And, yet they STILL pretend those people are getting "handouts." Sheish! Talk about totally stupid!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 9 votes
          #10.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

          A safety net is one thing to help out but this is out of control.

          Out of control, you say?....

          Yup, I guess all those Iraq/Afghanistan vets hoping to mooch off the gub for healthcare, food, and housing are ruining everything!

          • 9 votes
          #10.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

          The right-wingers are split today. Half of them believe that Romney's characterization of nearly half the people in this country is correct, and the other half want to believe that he didn't really say the things that are on tape (no spin needed-unlike the attacks on the President, Romney's remarks are presented completely in context).

          It just goes to show that the Repub talking-point machine can't spin this mess at all. You can tell by the lack of clear marching orders for the trolls.

          • 8 votes
          #10.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

          It just goes to show that the Repub talking-point machine can't spin this mess at all. You can tell by the lack of clear marching orders for the trolls.

          Yuuuuup! And all the with all of his Tea Bag pals, congressional candidates, running for the exits there's no wonder...

          • 1 vote
          #10.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:18 PM EDT
          Reply

          Poor Gov. Romney, he use to be sitting on a three legged stool....these days only one leg left, which, makes it pretty difficult doing his balancing act.....

          If only he could draw back that 47% poison arrow that leave the bow............

          Stay tune....

          The Republican Party will be announcing the date for Romney/Ryan Campaign Wake very soon.....

          .........................................GOD BLESS AMERICA............................................

          • 4 votes
          Reply#11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

          Keep hitting him President Obama!! Democrats make sure you vote early if you can, and remind family members!!

          President Obama 2012

          • 8 votes
          Reply#12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

          Gov. Romney's comments about the 47%'ers are starting to look like a fatal error.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

          Mitt Romney Video Shows Him Touting Bain As A Way To 'Harvest' Companies At A 'Significant Profit'

          While CEO of Bain Capital, Mitt Romney said the firm "harvested" the companies in which it invested to produce a "significant profit," according to a new video obtained by Mother Jones.

          The video of Romney, who made the remarks in 1985, was part of a CD-ROM produced in 1998 to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Bain & Company. In the video, Romney says, "Bain Capital is an investment partnership which was formed to invest in startup companies and ongoing companies, then to take an active hand in managing them and hopefully, five to eight years later, to harvest them at a significant profit."

          • 6 votes
          Reply#14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

          Feisty welcome back!!!!

          .......One Love........

          .......One Aim.........

          .......One Destiny.....

          OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

          • 8 votes
          Reply#15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

          Feisty welcome back!!!!

          Thanks darling, I saw where you were supporting me during my "time-out"!

          Much appreciated! ;o)

          • 7 votes
          #15.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
          Reply

          Keep on lying Mr O.

          The American people see through your pretty stories and personal attack dog politics to the ugly truth beneath.

          And we're gonna vote your sorry rear out in November.

            Reply#16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

            attack dog politics

            That tactic doesn't work for Willard since he strapped his dog to the top of his Cadillac.

            "PETA is not happy because my dog likes fresh air." —Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2007, responding to criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals following revelations that he had once strapped the family dog to the roof of his car during a 12-hour road trip

            I wonder if that is how the Romneys transport Ann's "therapeutic" Olympic dressage horse, too?

            • 5 votes
            #16.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:36 PM EDT

            Sailcat, Obama has eaten dogs, so why would you be upset if Mitt packs a lunch?

              #16.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

              So you're saying Mitt intended to eat his dog? Are you insane?

              • 5 votes
              #16.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

              Pittbulls are delicious!!

                #16.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:09 PM EDT
                Reply

                Using Romney's own words in his own voice against him---priceless!!!

                • 1 vote
                Reply#17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

                One confirmed group that is dependent on the government and refuses to work is Congressional Republicans.

                  Reply#18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                  another way romney is f*ck'n americans

                  Romney's ‘I Dig It’ Trust Gives Heirs Triple Benefit

                  Bloomberg: Romney ‘I Dig It’ Trust Gives Heirs Triple Benefit, by Jesse Drucker:

                  In January 1999, a trust set up by Mitt Romney for his children and grandchildren reaped a 1,000 percent return on the sale of shares in Internet advertising firm DoubleClick Inc. If Romney had given the cash directly, he could have owed a gift tax at a rate as high as 55%. He avoided gift and estate taxes by using a type of generation-skipping trust known to tax planners by the nickname: “I Dig It.”

                  The sale of DoubleClick shares received before the company went public, detailed in previously unreported securities filings reviewed by Bloomberg News, sheds new light on Romney’s estate planning -- the art of leaving assets for heirs while avoiding taxes. The Republican presidential candidate used a trust considered one of the most effective techniques for the wealthy to bypass estate and gift taxes. The Obama administration proposed cracking down on the tax benefits in February.

                  While Romney’s tax avoidance is both legal and common among high-net-worth individuals, it has become increasingly awkward for his candidacy since the disclosure of his remarks at a May fundraiser. He said that the nearly one-half of Americans who pay no income taxes are “dependent upon government” and “believe that they are victims.”

                  “People like Mitt Romney make a lot of money, but they pay very little income tax,” said Victor Fleischer, a tax law professor at the University of Colorado who has written extensively about private equity and taxes. “Then by dodging the estate and gift tax, they are able to build dynastic wealth. These DoubleClick documents really show that tax planning in action.” The Obama administration estimates that closing the loophole Romney used would bring the federal government almost $1 billion in the coming decade. ...

                  Multimillionaires use such trusts to avoid those taxes in three ways. First, they can assign a low value to assets they donate to the trust. Second, when the trust sells assets at a profit, the donors can pay the relatively low capital gains taxes on behalf of the trust. By doing so, they leave more money in the trust, untouched by the much higher gift tax. Third, by paying those taxes, they can reduce the pile of wealth eventually subject to an estate tax when they die.

                    Reply#19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                    Don't worry we've got our new Socialist Ballot Drops in place.

                    ontheroadlive(dot)com/47_percent_only(dot)jpg

                      Reply#20 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:22 AM EDT

                      This is an effective, confident ad. It echoes Obama's "His Choice" ad from 2008 where he just had McCain speaking about picking a VP who would help him with economics--and then used Palin's debate-wink as the punch-line.

                      My analysis:

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