Romney: Massachusetts health care law is proof of empathy

 

TOLEDO, OH -- Mitt Romney on Wednesday pointed to the health care reform law he enacted as governor of Massachusetts as proof of his empathy and care for the American people.

In an interview with NBC News, Romney referenced an element of his record he almost never invokes on the campaign trail to answer a question about how he can better connect with Americans and prove he understands the lives and trials of middle class Americans.

"I think throughout this campaign as well, we talked about my record in Massachusetts, don't forget -- I got everybody in my state insured," Romney told NBC's Ron Allen in an interview before his rally here tonight. "One hundred percent of the kids in our state had health insurance. I don't think there's anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record."

A new CBS/New York Times poll shows Obama leading in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, Romney is focused on wooing the swing state of Ohio which has been won by every Republican who ever became president. NBC's Ron Allen reports.

Romney's health care law in Massachusetts has long been a lightning rod issue for conservatives, who unfavorably compare it to President Barack Obama's own federal law and as a damning reflection on Romney's conservative bonafides.

The former Massachusetts governor also touched on another portion of his biography that he seldom discusses to connect with average Americans: his time as a Mormon pastor.

"I think people have the chance, who watched our Republican convention, to see the lives that I've had a chance to touch during my life, to understand that as I served as a pastor of a congregation with people of all different backgrounds and economic circumstances that I care very deeply about the American people, people of different socio-economic circumstances," Romney told Allen.

Taking the stage for the final rally of his two-day Ohio bus tour moments later, Romney also spoke about the importance of compassion in his speech and said his interactions with Americans from all lots in life have shown him the greatness of America -- and that everyone has challenges of their own.

"You look around, you see everybody, they look happy, and you think everybody else is doing just fine, and you're the only one with problems. But the truth is, most people that you see have some real challenges in their life of one kind or another. I understand that," Romney said. "And I've seen that inside the heart of the American people, despite our challenges, is a conviction that this nation is the greatest nation in the history of the earth."

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In the final push in the 2012 presidential election, candidates Mitt Romney and Barack Obama make their last appeals to voters.

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GOP should name their party a new name call: DOOM and BLOOM paty??

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Reply#913 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:11 PM EDT

I will forgive your lack of knowledge of a democracy and free market system knowing that you grew up in a 3rd world oppressed nation. But, isn't America great? You can express your thoughts without Pol Pot shooting you! God bless America, and Clint Eastwood especially. Now, there's a real american guy.

  • 1 vote
#913.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

Hey Drew,

We gave away 30-40% of America to Free Trade.

How much do you suppose we give away to the Free Market system?

The other 60%?

  • 1 vote
#913.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 PM EDT

Drew wrong country, Pol Pot was Cambodian, Trinh is Vietnamese, two very distinct countries. Clint Eastwood, will always be Rowdy Yates, did Clint say the people who hired him were dumb, because what you see is what you got. Good Old Dirty Harry, love the guy.

Obama 2012

  • 1 vote
#913.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

bird man, I am well aware of pol pot being cambodian, but many vietnameese fled to cambodia for refuge after the fall and pol pot was just an extension of what was going wrong in vietnam. But, thank you anyway. It doesn't change my point one little bit.

    #913.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
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    Romney’s just a flip flopping Thurston Howell who mistreats his dog.

    The facts that everything he’s touched in life has turned to gold and

    • he earned a fortune on his own intelligence and hard work without using a dime of inherited money
    • he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Business and Harvard
      Law Schools
    • he gave up two years of his life to serve a mission in a foreign
      country at his own expense
    • he’s a wildly successful businessman
    • he gives a fourth of his income to charity
    • he is a model of ethics and Christianity
    • he was a very successful governor of a state from which he was
      the minority party

    Are absolutely no indication that he’d be a good president.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#914 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

    Guess it would have been better if he ate the dog instead.

      #914.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:14 PM EDT

      You are right - the last thing we need is a successful and resourceful person managing the affairs of this nation. I prefer a dreamer and party animal with a motto "Life is to short for work"

      • 2 votes
      #914.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

      He's also good at taking advantage at the tax loopholes but when he's asked which the tax loopholes he would close he could not think which one. Why? because he still wants to take advantage of the tax loopholes.

      • 2 votes
      #914.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:21 PM EDT

      Did you complain when John Kerry paid less in taxes than Romney did?

        #914.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

        Southboy how ridiculous your comment is. There are thousands of loopholes has Obama said which ones he would close. NONE he just wants a rate increase why DEMS like those loopholes they use those loopholes OBAMA uses them

        • 2 votes
        #914.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

        Hey southbay. Too much time in the sun I suppose! But, anyway; are your referring to the "loopholes" he took advantage of when he donated 4 million to charity in 2011. How much did you donate in charity????

          #914.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:30 PM EDT

          I prefer a dreamer and party animal with a motto "Life is to short for work"

          And that is . . . who?

            #914.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT
          • he earned a fortune on his own intelligence and hard work without using a dime of inherited money
          • How so? Romney did not have to work to pay for his education. Even his wife admits that he cashed in some of his trust funds to pay for their schooling. And do you think he would have made it into Harvard without his fancy private education? Do you honestly believe that Mitt would have been successfull without his daddy's money and name? If he was a kid off the streets of Portland how many of those wealthy investors would have given him money to start BAIN?? Are you that naive on how the real world works??

            He gave up two years of his life to go on a religous mission in France. You must really appreciate those young boys who come to YOUR door pushing their religon!! Romney did NOT serve this country for two years, and he considers riding around on a million dollar motorcoach as his son's service to this country when our sons die in a foriegn country defending our way of life!!

            I don't consider someone who "creative destroys" small businesses a WILDLY SUCCESSFUL business man. Or someone who shipped jobs overseas all that brilliant either. If Romney was able to save those companies and make them profitable, if he found a way to KEEP jobs in the US, if he paid a living wage to all his employees THAT my FRIEND would have been a WILDLY SUCCESSFUL business man. I hear their are DRUG KINPINS worth millions of dollars I don't consider them WILDLY SUCESSFUL businessmen either!! Taking advantage of people, stealing from people does NOT make you successfull no matter how much money you have!!

            Giving a forth of your income to a Charity that is now a major backer of your campaign is NOT charity, it is long range goal planning!!

          • he is a model of ethics and Christianity, Wow, you think vulture capitalism is ethical?? I am glad I will never do business with you. Vulture Capitalism, while legal is the very bottom scum of the business world. In the movie "Pretty Woman" Edward Lewis, a venture capitalist, has to be redeemed by a hooker!! Do you really think Jesus would have supported Mitt Romney taking the pensions of the steel workers after many of them had saved their whole working lives and put into their pensions?? That was legal theft. The Jesus I worship would never approve of such a dispicable business transaction!!
            • #914.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:58 PM EDT

              One more note: Romney only gave that much money to charity in 2011 to bring his tax rate UP! His real rate was about 10%- but since he had lied and said that he always had paid at least 13%- he did what he needed to do to buy himself the election.

              Now, as for the CHARITIES???? The primary beneficiares were HIS OWN NON-PROFITS- which he himself had made recently to find tax loopholes for himself- and of course the Mormon church.

              This extra "giving" was nothing but a sham to try to fool the American people.

                #914.9 - Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:19 AM EDT
                Reply

                Who is Obama? Apparently, Obama doesn't know either. Obama hired a biographer to write a beautiful story about Obama - Yet the Biographer finds over 39 lies in Obama's Dreams of his Father(s). Even Tom Brokaw, after the interview, said "I guess Obama's life is so complex that even Obama doesn't understand it" Really, and we put this non-working dreamer in charge

                • 1 vote
                Reply#915 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:12 PM EDT

                Tell us your life story and then we can have the CIA tell us how you did. A mistake is not a lie. Is Mitt lying when he tells us that he writes off the 47% who owe no taxes and may make $50K per year, or is he lying when he says he cares of the poor. I don't think someone who makes over $18K is poor, but Mitt's rich eyes can't contemplate those differences.

                • 2 votes
                #915.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

                39 mistakes are not a lie or maybe he was mistaken in the original BIO author part when he said he was born in Kenya. You calling that a mistake that he does not even know where he was born according to his own words?

                • 1 vote
                #915.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

                disc are you kidding me??? You don't think someone who makes over $18,000.00 is poor? Pick any place in this country and try living on 1,500.00 per month and let me know how that works for you!

                  #915.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

                  Ok, I have a new theory. We need to check oblaaa blaaaa's belly button to see if it's there. Yep, he may have crawled out from under a rock or maybe there are aliens after all!

                    #915.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

                    Kirk

                    Obama has a difficult time remembering all the lies he has told in an attempt to hide the truth. What person that is running for president of our country would admit that his REAL father and mentor was an active registered member of the socialist communist party?

                    Romney - Ryan 2012

                      #915.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      He's a business man so he says anything to cut a deal. GOP conservatives were fooled. Now he preys on Dem and Independent.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#916 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

                      CBS News) Peggy Noonan, the Wall Street Journal columnist and former speechwriter for President Ronald Reagan, hasn't been shy about voicing her concerns about Mitt Romney's campaign, but in a Friday column she stepped up her critique.

                      "The Romney campaign has to get turned around," she wrote. "This week I called it incompetent, but only because I was being polite. I really meant 'rolling calamity.'"

                      When a former Reagan speech writer who now works for the Wall St. Journal calls the Romney campaign a "Rolling Calamity" do you think he might not be able to run a country effectively??

                      Honestly, he's been running for 7 years now, that's almost 2 terms and still can't get it right??

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#917 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

                      You do have a good point - But don't cut Obama short - He started campaigning in 06 and has never looked back or took a minute to smell the Daisies.

                      • 1 vote
                      #917.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:19 PM EDT

                      Willy, willy, willy! don't get so easily side tracked. Here's YOUR 2 choices in November:

                      1. Socialist, big government guy.

                      2. Capitalist, free market guy.

                      You pick between the two because NOTHING else matters....

                        #917.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                        Hey Drew,

                        We gave away 30-40% of America to Free Trade.

                        How much do you suppose we give away to the Free Market system?

                        The other 60%?

                          #917.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                          Iron worker. What you are referring to is the free trade agreements which were a huge mistake in my opinion. And, both sides of the aisle are in equal blame.

                          More importantly I want to know this. Are YOU against a free market system???

                          • 1 vote
                          #917.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                          Drew before I say I would have to see the rules and guidelines. Ones interpretation may differ from another. Nothing is Free, someone or something is going to pay a cost for it. Drew it falls down to this. There are consequence's for all choices we make in life, good or bad there will be consequence's.

                          We see what happens when we sign laws before we know what's in them. This Free Market System has been around before you or I were born. Do regulations get in the way of it? Yes they do. In some cases it keeps the exploitation to a minimum. In other cases it puts a strangle hold on businesses.

                          So in a not shell, Yes I am for a Free Market System. Not without some accountability or controls, or why have laws in society. Lets just make it a free for all global economy and see where that takes us.

                            #917.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                            Tony I agree with you. I think globalization has hurt us because the rules are all stacked against America. If we don't get manufacturing jobs back and going we are in big trouble and China outpaced us in that regard last year for the first time in history. Good luck though we all need it. Hope all works out for you and your family.

                              #917.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:54 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Someone mentioned FOX News. Look at who they have been hiring and then honestly say they aren't biased. People in Romney's campaign staff have been hired by FOX to tell their lies to the vulnerable & closed minded.

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#918 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 PM EDT

                              Roll my eyes as we comment on an Obama sympathizer news network blog.

                                #918.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                What are you doing here? Did you lose your way home, or come here to here the truth for once?

                                • 2 votes
                                #918.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

                                yep Bob Beckel Juan Williams and Joe Trippi are ardent Romney people

                                  #918.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:27 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  The words 'Romney', 'empathy', and 'honesty' don't belong in the same sentence............

                                  or article, or campaign.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#919 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:22 PM EDT

                                  Has the world gone crazy? Romney changed his position? You are kidding me right?

                                  I am going to ask one more time. How many of you right wonders, (middle class republicans) will have to hold your nose when you vote for Romney? This is proof right here of what Gingrich said about him.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#920 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

                                  Today its side A and tomorrow it will be side B, or spin around and come back full circle. No core, spineless, can't say no to the limbaughs, becks, hannity, ingram's of the real rulers of the GOP garden party. If he can't disavow himself from them, how is he going to say no to the Koch boys or Rove, he won't because he can't, they own him big time.

                                  Obama 2012

                                    Reply#921 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:26 PM EDT

                                    Just Like unions soros and ayers own Obama

                                      #921.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

                                      Well if it isn't my favorite bird brain!

                                        #921.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                                        I knew you loved me and you promised you wouldn't tell. How they hanging , still slinging elephant s it, how the Koch Boys doing today, and give my best to Rove, may that nasty beast Karma have a few words with that crowd, including you two

                                        Oh, which side are you picking side A for today or side B for tomorrow?

                                        Obama 2012

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #921.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

                                        Ask, where is yourproof that the Unions own Obama? We support Republicans and endorse them also. The wealthy PAC's own Romney and out spend the Unions 5-1, with the PAC's hiding behind a secrete curtain. The Unions don't hide their position and who they support. You must be jealous or envious, which is boy.

                                          #921.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

                                          Bird man, I would like to say that I enjoy your post. I do want to say that I sling Independent S . . . now hold on to your perch for this one! I voted for Oblaaa blaaa in 2008 (oh that felt so good finally getting it out!) But, not this time. He's got too many fooled. I would seriously vote for Hillary Clinton over Oblaaa blaaa at least she cares about this country whereas he seems to only care about himself.

                                            #921.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:08 PM EDT
                                            Reply

                                            I'm no fortune teller but I think at least 47% of the voters are going to vote for Obama. Good thing as the last thing we need is to have someone that bankrupts companies and sends jobs overseas to pocket the money in his own back pocket lead this country. Vote no to the robme / lying ticket. Or you can have the 1% run this once great country into ground for their personal profit. Funny how the corporations have to cut pensions but the CEO gets multimillion dollar bonuses. They are trying to get rid of the middle class and make everyone poor. Then cut off all aid and tell us we are all lazy bums and sponge off the government. The repubs want to turn us into a 3rd world country so they can pocket more money for themselves. I remember when we had a surplus and jobs were good. Then Bush 2 got in and took care of that. He created WAY more debt than Obama but all the repubs talk about is how much Obama has spent. He wouldn’t have had to if “W” didn’t almost bankrupt this country. If the repubs did care about this country then why have they sat on their hands not passing anything that would get America back to work? They have the money to wait and don’t care about the American people. They just want things back to the way that almost bankrupted this country but put millions in their bank accounts. If you think his words have gotten him in hot water now think of what he will spill out to cause another war. Think before you say something that puts people’s lives in danger. But tomorrow he will say the opposite so everything will be just dandy…

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#922 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                                            So then you are saying GM, Chrysler, FORd, GE, American Express, Boeing and a slew of others should be kicked out of the country for outsourcing jobs. Or is it ok to Bail out GM who has a huge plan to outsource jobs to China as part of their recovery just curious

                                              #922.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

                                              thank you, ask, for providing a perfect example of a classic right-wing strawman argument.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #922.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

                                              When the muslims say they will defeat us from within, they know what they are talking about!!!!

                                                #922.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                                                Hey rascal, have you ever had a simple economic 101 class? Just curious there spanky.

                                                  #922.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                                                  drew -

                                                  what the "f" does economics have to do with ask and his insipid strawman argument?

                                                  and how did the muslims get into this?

                                                    #922.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                                                    Oh my spankie! Well, the economics have to deal with very large companies that have been allowed to thrive in a free market (exception is GM where your man Oblaaa blaaa forced into a government run company) and unfortunately, it seems like your socialist president doesn't like free markets so economics plays very well into this discussion. As to the muslims, you're right. It was just a slap at oblaaa blaaaa.

                                                      #922.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                                                      Ask, I never said kicked out of country just not have him as president. If you think outsourcing is good then maybe we can outsource your job. LTL, keep drinking the Kool aid and I think I hear Fox news calling you. Drew, I know I'm better off now than 4 years ago so that's all the economics I need to know. How long has Medicaid, Medicare been around? Is that when we became a socialist country? This still doesn't explain why the repubs have done NOTHING to get us back to work. They are acting like children and causing more damage than good. What real bills have gone through in the last 2 years to get us back on our feet? If they think government is too big and has too many regulations then why did Bush 2 double the size of government? This used to be a country of WE the PEOPLE, now it's just ME the people. The constitution is now just a piece of paper on display in DC.

                                                        #922.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:41 PM EDT
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                                                        No government either state or federal has a right to mess with my health care. The government does not know how to deal with these things, examples,,,,,Social Security,,,Welfare, Medicare... the list goes on and on, The government was only meant to collect taxes to maintaine the army, not meddle into all facets of out lives, anyone who is for that kind of government control is a freeloader or a communist.. call it what ever you want, but cradle to grave government means, government stays rich and we work for them and we stay poor, worse than it is now. You people who think that this is a good idea do not have a good grasp of reality. so maybe you do need someone to take care of you your whole life. I for one do not.

                                                          #923 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                                                          I know lets call conservatives non compassionate because they don't feel it is appropriate for our children to pay for you libs dipping your wick in a woman and getting her pregnant. It is so compassionate of you to say my child has to pay for what you created knowing that you could not afford to feed it. How compassionate is it of you to create a burden on my child. Furthermore how compassionate is it of you to bring a child into this world knowing you cannot feed it or clothe it.

                                                            #923.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

                                                            Every other civilized country in the world recognizes health care as a human right. You hate our government so much that you think our government is the worst one on earth. You are another right wing sick S.O.B. in my opinion, get a one way ticket to Somalia, and take two conservatives with you.

                                                            • 2 votes
                                                            #923.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                                                            Ask, how compassionate of you to force a woman into a back alley to get an abortion while rich folks just get on a plane to go to a safe one?

                                                            • 3 votes
                                                            #923.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                                            John can you say the worst education system in the world under the federal DOE for the last 30 years, can you say medicare full of fraud can you say every government program fails to meet its parameters and goals and also fails to meet it's budget. It's not hate it is reality that IT IS FAILING

                                                              #923.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

                                                              John:

                                                              Maybe she should keep her legs closed until she can afford a child. Oh I know it's ok for her to get her orgasm and the man to get her orgasm and then you tell my ten year old to pay for her sexual pleasure

                                                                #923.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                                                Ask, if you hate America so much, why do you stay? I am on medicare and it works just fine, you will take it when the time comes as well as social securtiy, I would bet.

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #923.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                                                John I am all for MEDICARE and SS. I believe that those of you that contributed to this country for 35 years or more should be comfortable in your later years. However, that does not mean that it does not have huge room for improvement and the government is failing at making it work properly. I don't hate America but to recognize that our FED has shortcomings and demand they be fixed is not hate.

                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                #923.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                                                                Ask, what is not ok if for you to judge others, it is also wrong for you to tell others how to live their lives. But wrong never stopped an ignorant conservative such as yourself from displaying that stupidity. So you say your still a virgin. Sex is an animalistic instinct, more powerful then even a republican wank such as yourself. Now shut up and run along.

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #923.8 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

                                                                Again, if you do not want to contribute to our civilized society, why don't you go find your place, because your place certainly isn't America.

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #923.9 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                                                                Medicare and Social Securtiy is working just fine. A few adjustments will make both viable through the baby boom years. But destroying it as Ryan would do is wrong.

                                                                • 2 votes
                                                                #923.10 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                                                                John I am not telling them how to live their lives. Screw all you want have all the children you want. Living your life and does not extend to my wallet. That is the problem I don't have a problem with free will. Your choice to exercise your free will and get yourself in trouble does not extend to my wallet. How do you figure that you are letting me live my life if you are taking from my sustance based on how you are living your life?

                                                                  #923.11 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                                                                  Read the bill there is an option to stay on traditional medicare, you are quoting from the earliest version of the proposal

                                                                    #923.12 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

                                                                    Oh yeah, you hate Amreica, if you didn't you would be renoucing Robmehood/Ruin. These two are awful people and you know it.

                                                                      #923.13 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                                                                      So JOHN you call civilized stealing from another's table because you got pregnant and got afford the child? That is civilized the condoning of taking someone else's hard work because of a lack of responsibility?

                                                                        #923.14 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                                                                        Katie, I know you're probably young and idealistic so I'll try to be patient and kind. So, you say we shouldn't tell others how to live? The liberal elites do that on a grander scale then anyone else for sure. They tell us we have to share the wealth, we have to pay for other people's contraception, and most troubling is they limit an individual's or entities right to free speech by using hateful rhetoric and division. You comrade liberals have no clue about individual liberty because you're only tolerant of your own ideals. Well, sorry but I reject your socialist ideals. But, I also acknowledge you have a right to them, and before you bash me to hard I've served to protect your rights whether I agree with them or not. Bet you can't say that can you?

                                                                        • 1 vote
                                                                        #923.15 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

                                                                        Read the bill, the one that destroys Medicare. No. Its the conservative math again. take revenue away from it, will destroy it. I can give you vouchers all day long that mean little or nothing. Thats not ok.

                                                                        • 1 vote
                                                                        #923.16 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:00 PM EDT

                                                                        First thing stupid its not stealing. Its called paying your fair share, you play that game, is it right to steal my money to finance a war that meant nothing?

                                                                        • 1 vote
                                                                        #923.17 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:01 PM EDT

                                                                        Furthermore didn't you say sex was a primal instinct. Should not a civilized society be able to control their primal instincts so it does not hurt or burden others.

                                                                          #923.18 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                                                                          the vouchers are a choice you can choose that system or Traditional medicare check fact check they even report that latest revision has the tradtional medicare option in it and you do not have to go on the voucher system

                                                                            #923.19 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

                                                                            Drew, do you live in this country and use its services? I got no use for people that shirk their duty to pay taxes to the country that makes it possible for them to have wealth. You suckers think its ok to take from the middle class while Romney only pays 15% on his millions. You even want to tax people living from pay check to paycheck. Same advice as that stupid azz ask, you don't like this country leave.

                                                                              #923.20 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

                                                                              Fairshare and there it is the term of ambiguity. What are these people that have these children and then take paying NOTHING? WHERE IS THERE FAIR SHARE John. You say my son has a social responsibility to pay his fair share but they do not kind of tyrannical don't you think

                                                                                #923.21 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:05 PM EDT

                                                                                So, every time you came on point you didn't follow it? go ahead and lie and tell me your a 40 year old virgin.

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #923.22 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:06 PM EDT

                                                                                You say it is not stealing, I say it is stealing whenever you take money from my food to give it to another that contributes nothing to society but takes. When you take from me and give to another against my will it is stealing.

                                                                                Our definitions are different clearly but I know when you were born the doctor sprinkled some magical fairy dust on your arse and made your opinion better than everyone else's right

                                                                                  #923.23 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                                                                                  Nope I am not a virgin, however I exercised my sexual activities responsibily. I had a child when I was 39 he is now 10 and I am 49. I fully support my son financially, physically, emotionally and in every other way. Why because the first tenant of social responsibility is to not become a burden on society. I have paid taxes since I am 16. OOPS sorry about your luck. What do I get for this. The crappiest education system of the developed world. The inability to provide my son everything he deserves off my hard work and labor while others sit at home taking advantage of the fruits of my labors et c

                                                                                    #923.24 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:11 PM EDT

                                                                                    John are you a complete moron? I love this country, but I hate socialism. I have served this country,, have you? I doubt it! I have also served my community and was critically injured by a gang member while trying to make a difference, how about you? So, before you tell me to leave... I've paid my dues and I am in pain almost constantly as a result so think about your little hysterical rants before you hit the send button. And, I've probably given more to charity to help the less fortunate then you will make in your life time.

                                                                                      #923.25 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

                                                                                      It is funny John how you tell people that don't agree with you to leave the country. There is that tyrannical voice against free speech. You want to take your ball and go home because we disagree with you?

                                                                                        #923.26 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

                                                                                        John batlleless. By the way. Your god oblaaa blaaa is going to let those tax cuts expire come January 1 and YOU will be paying more. Also, the lowest income (tax paying) group will see their rate go from 10% to 15% which is a fifty percent increase. That's before all the Obamacare stuff kicks in! Please try to get informed!

                                                                                          #923.27 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                                                                                          That is a good point DREW. JOHN let me know the next time you are holding a suffering drug addicts head in your hands as he trembles and shakes trying to break the chains he is under. Let me know the next time you walk into the projects of new orleans 30 minutes after a gun battle and spend time with the children that are scared there comforting them. Let me know the next time you take recovering drug addicts into your home helping to ensure they do not fall back into the addiction then you can pop off

                                                                                            #923.28 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                                                                                            Yeah ask, the problem with John's type is they are bitter and jealous and they believe everything the comrades tell them. Then, they have their little fits while oblaaa blaaa and his fellow elitists sit back and laugh at them! It's a funny thing when socialist liberals tell constitutional believing free market people who have served their country to leave!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                              #923.29 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

                                                                                              Ask you're a good guy. We will just keep hanging in there and raising our sons to be responsible and contributors to this society. Haters and takers like John will still be protected under this great nation as they should be. But, I laugh at them! They would have you and I leave! Who would protect them then! LOL... Keep up the good fight it's worth it!

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                                                                                              #923.30 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                                                                                              Drew what they don't realize is that most of those people he is bashing are conservative christians you know the ones that give billions a dollars a year 50 dollars at a time to take care of the poor and needy. The ones making like my mother 31000 a year and gives her tithe plus to take care of the poor oops

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                                                                                              #923.31 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                                                                                              DREW feeling is mutual. WE just listen to Triumph FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. I am lucky to have the son I have. Just last night I was wait volunteering in my community coaching little league baseball. Dang I am a terrible person lol

                                                                                              Drew it is people like you that make it all worthwhile for sure, those that understand while we want to be as noble as possible there are limits to what can be done

                                                                                                #923.32 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

                                                                                                Yeah, well good talking to you. I'm out for now. Take good care. Very blessed to have my son and others who think the same.

                                                                                                  #923.33 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                                                                                                  Ask, if you were to be in a debilitating accident tomorrow would you then want that socialist Medicaid to pay for your medical bills, would you want that Socialist social security to help you have a place to live? I don’t have kids and still pay property taxes to send yours to school. Do I think it’s fair, no. Do I understand why it’s that way, yes. So can your keep your kids out of my wallet and close your wife’s legs so she stops having more kids for me to pay to send to school? Don’t you have the money to pay for their education yourself (from K to 12)? As far as only people that put into the system for 35 years are you saying that if not 35 years then you don’t get anything? I’ve been putting in for 30 years so according to you I have no rights to anything but letting them give me vouchers so some corporation can blow me off when trying to make a claim. The government might not run things well but corporate America only looks out for corporate so do you really think you’ll be better off? You do know you are getting older and will need these things right? If not you are truly clueless or were born with a silver spoon up down yonder.

                                                                                                    #923.34 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:12 PM EDT
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                                                                                                    Oh now he's bragging about it when for the last year and a half he has been distancing himself from it. Just another MITT FLIP FLOP. Just wait a week and he'll distance himself from it again....empathy and trust I just don't see in Mitt and all the 47% out there don't either. Obama 2012

                                                                                                      Reply#924 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:31 PM EDT

                                                                                                      The highest monthly unemployment rate during 2001-August 2008 was 6.3 percent. The overall average monthly unemployment rate during the 8 years was 5.3 percent.

                                                                                                      America moved out of the recession of 2001 leading to six years of uninterrupted economic growth and a record 52 straight months of job creation.

                                                                                                      During that timeframe the dow soared to a 14,000+ point record high

                                                                                                      When Barack was sworn in Jan 2009 the unemployment rate was at 7.7%.

                                                                                                      346,000 jobs lost in August 2012 under Barack....

                                                                                                      Barack = Continued Debt, Doubt, Decline (D)

                                                                                                        Reply#925 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                                                                                                        in conjunction with the credit freeze

                                                                                                        Who was
                                                                                                        it that demanded that a beefed up and much stronger version of the CRA be
                                                                                                        amended to the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999? Who was it that
                                                                                                        pushed through the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000? Who was it that
                                                                                                        received 126 million in compensation at Citigroup for 14 months work after he
                                                                                                        helped on those two. Did you know that Chris Dodd was one of "Angelo's
                                                                                                        Friends" and what that meant. Why did James A Johnson give Herb Moses a
                                                                                                        high level job at Fannie Mae. Why did Bill Clinton's former Budget Director get
                                                                                                        into trouble while he was CEO at Fannie Mae.

                                                                                                        AND ABOVE ALL HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE REPUBLICANS?

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                                                                                                        #925.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 PM EDT
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                                                                                                        tell Mit his god call him home to MORON SECRET TEPLE with ANN ROMNEY! we miss you MIt we miss our CMMANDER and CHEAT!

                                                                                                          Reply#926 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

                                                                                                          I know lets call conservatives non compassionate because they don't feel it is appropriate for our children to pay for you libs dipping your wick in a woman and getting her pregnant. It is so compassionate of you to say my child has to pay for what you created knowing that you could not afford to feed it. How compassionate is it of you to create a burden on my child. Furthermore how compassionate is it of you to bring a child into this world knowing you cannot feed it or clothe it.

                                                                                                            Reply#927 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                                                                                                            adding to this all of your life you are told that you need at least a high school education to be able to at least get a decent enough job to support yourself. How compassionate is it of you to Drop out of School inducing self poverty and ask our children to support you

                                                                                                              #927.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

                                                                                                              Answer your compassion is false and full of lies just so you can give yourself a fake and bloated self esteem and think you are good

                                                                                                                #927.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:40 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                Here's YOUR 2 choices in November:

                                                                                                                1. Socialist, big government guy.

                                                                                                                2. Capitalist, free market guy.

                                                                                                                You all pick, because this is really what it all boils down to. Not who's the most charming, most generous, most conservative or liberal. Think about it!@

                                                                                                                  Reply#928 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:37 PM EDT

                                                                                                                  Drew, it has to be a balance or the dam idea will not work.

                                                                                                                  Here's YOUR 2 choices in November:

                                                                                                                  1. Socialist, big government guy.

                                                                                                                  2. Capitalist, free market guy.

                                                                                                                  America was built to serve both. Right now the scales have favored wealthy. They have continued to see gains even through the past 10 years.

                                                                                                                  The rest have seen declines. Wages stagnant, cost of living escalating at a huge pace.

                                                                                                                  Step back from the Adult conversation and stop being spoon fed everything you post.

                                                                                                                    #928.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

                                                                                                                    Most of what you are crying about is happening under Obama (who I voted for) You can throw your little baby insults if you wish about adult conversation but I bet I understand our system of government and economics a lot better then you, judging by your post. So, go ahead, what's next? I'm a racist right???

                                                                                                                      #928.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                                                                                                                      Tony, I'm sorry for the last post that was uncalled for. I just got irritated about another post where someone told me to pack up and leave and that I hate America which is not true. But, that's my fault for getting all worked up. Again, sorry for that.

                                                                                                                        #928.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                                                                                                                        Hey Drew, I was drawing that conclusion from the attack on John that's all.

                                                                                                                        Your understanding of our system of government and economics being better than mine is a bit arrogant of you. I'll let you believe what you want.

                                                                                                                        Crying about what? I didn't just start living since Obama was elected. I've been around the block a few times. This isn't my first economic slump, or second, hell lets go third.

                                                                                                                        So to say you have a better understanding, is probably a stretch. I've lived through the whole process of what works best in America. I will say this, we won't learn from history and are doomed to repeat it. Keep believing you/we need to reinvent the wheel, I have worked around people like that and in my line of work and in the end they came to the conclusion they didn't have all the answers either. But the old guy knew a few things that made it work.

                                                                                                                          #928.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                                                                                                                          Like I said Tony. I'm sorry my post was out of line and arrogant.

                                                                                                                            #928.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:29 PM EDT

                                                                                                                            Dew apology accepted my friend . I was getting a little worked up on my end as well and want to extend the same back at you. This nation faces some difficult choices ahead. For sure....

                                                                                                                              #928.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:44 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                              time to send ET(MIT) home with his god so he can live happyly after THE END!

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                                                                                                                              Reply#929 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

                                                                                                                              Hey Lien- Take a ride ride ride ride on heavy metal.

                                                                                                                                #929.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                Lien make funny comments. Lien love oblaaa blaaaa long time, oblaaa blaaa number 1 (or number 2 if we're talking digestive system!).

                                                                                                                                  #929.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                  Hey Ask, do the anatomically impossible act of fornicating yourself.

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                                                                                                                                  #929.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                  John:

                                                                                                                                  HA Ha Ha Good comeback.

                                                                                                                                    #929.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                    I have no use for you, you don't have any use for yourself.

                                                                                                                                      #929.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                      LOl you have no use for me and how are you to me. Oh yeah no one. We are just two people arguing philosophies on a computer. The difference is I don't resort to calling you names there John.

                                                                                                                                        #929.6 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                        Ask JOHN lied! He said he had no use for you! That's not true, he wants some of what you have. So, under John's system he sits at home and you work hard then he gets your hard work redistributed into his lazy butt.

                                                                                                                                          #929.7 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:29 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                          Romneycare is Obamacare so why like Romneycare of Mass. and not like Obamacare USA? I think its called bigitory!

                                                                                                                                          Mr. Romney doesn't care and it shows in the little 47% speech!

                                                                                                                                          On jobs Mass. was 47th in creating JOBS under Romney.

                                                                                                                                          Stop and think about this Romney/Ryan have lied in every speech given!

                                                                                                                                          A liar for President and another Liar for Vice President...not happening!

                                                                                                                                          President Obama cares about all 100% of us and he's truthful! That gets my VOTE on November 6th..................YES WE CAN re-elect President Obama and Vice President Biden

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                                                                                                                                          Reply#930 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                          Yes we can and have done a lot in spite of the Just Say No Grand Obstructionist Putzes who claimed job 1 is to make Obama a one term president. Job1, really? What happened to all the other important stuff that they have blocked and tried to tank the economy. Even Speaker Bonehead has admitted that they may have made a mistake and the GOP may lose the House this year. One can only hope.

                                                                                                                                            #930.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                            proof of his empathy and care for the American people ?????

                                                                                                                                            Romney 'I'm not concerned about the very poor'

                                                                                                                                            Romney 'I'm not concerned about the very poor'

                                                                                                                                            Romney 'I'm not concerned about the very poor'

                                                                                                                                            Romney showed his true face.

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                                                                                                                                            Reply#931 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                            Quotes, Really? Lien think you smoke much ganja back in the day.

                                                                                                                                              #931.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:47 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                              No Andrew. What he doesn't care about is the "very poor who won't get off their lazy butts and find a job, even if it is flipping burgers. And they won't do this because they believe Obama will give them enough money to live comfortably. He is not talking about the ones who try to find a job and can't or the vets or the seniors. Just the lazy, good for nothing, slobs!!!

                                                                                                                                                #931.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                Mitt even cares about the lazy couch potato. What he said in the "surreptitious" recording, is that he can't care about currying the vote of most of them because they have already decided their allegiances and nothing he says or does can change that. (Actually, this is much the same thing President Obama said in another recording about that same demographic being a key voting bloc for him).

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                                                                                                                                                #931.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                Steve you hit the nail on the head. I know a lady who has been a life long democrat. I really like her and she was a big part of my life when I was growing up. But, she told me she is unhappy with Oblaaa blaaa and thinks he's done a terrible job. BUT, as a committed democrat she is still going to vote for him!

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                                                                                                                                                #931.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:31 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                Bain Capital is now referred to as Willard's former employer. Wonder why? Currently, Bain Capital is raping and outsourcing a company in Illinois. The only job Willard has ever created is his own job.

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                                                                                                                                                Reply#932 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                Very true.

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                                                                                                                                                #932.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                coop, I realize you've never had a job (judging by your post) But, yes when a person leaves a company they are a FORMER employee.

                                                                                                                                                  #932.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:48 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                  If not I guess we could prosecute Obama since he was a community organizer under ACORN who is now defunct because of criminal violations

                                                                                                                                                    #932.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                    Businesses in America began heavily outsourcing work to India in the 1990's. It was a way to save on overhead and production cost. Jobs such as manufacturing to telemarketing and customer service centers became a booming business in India. Outsourcing to India has not come without issues. Problems have surfaced in both customer service and product quality. Outsourcing has not come without heavy criticism. Many people believe that outsourcing has contributed to unemployment and security risks to Americans too.

                                                                                                                                                      #932.4 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                      Yes, part of that big globalization push. We need to pull back from that and pull back from our dollars going to 3rd world muslim nations that hate us.

                                                                                                                                                        #932.5 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                        time for Mit to eat "DOG POOP YON"

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                                                                                                                                                        Reply#933 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:43 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                        Lien make a mean dog poo yon, hey! Where's my dog..... Fido, fido, oh no!!!

                                                                                                                                                          #933.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                          Romney a mormon pastor?

                                                                                                                                                          1. Thats, as bad as the grand wizard?? He's much more of a cultist than we all thought. Must kill the christian coalition to vote for him. Plus a socialist healthcare program he finally is proud of. Cripe looks like now the dems win no matter who wins the election.
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                                                                                                                                                          Reply#934 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                          Hmmmm, bigotry?????

                                                                                                                                                            #934.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:50 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                            I guess so, just didn't know he was a mormon pastor, thought he was just your average joe attender.

                                                                                                                                                              #934.2 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:55 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                              not a troll. I'm sorry for that post.

                                                                                                                                                                #934.3 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:33 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                Obama is on the campaign trial trying to come across as a repentant socialist and saying there are no victims so logically, there is no need to redistribute the wealth and promote big Government. Obamanites, "well little bitty buddies your retarded!!!"

                                                                                                                                                                Romney/Ryan 2012

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                                                                                                                                                                Reply#935 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:51 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                Let's have some clarity here on this:

                                                                                                                                                                Mitt has always contended for the need of Health Care reform (although neither the Massachussetts law, nor Affordable Helathcare Act address the root problem of the cost of health care nor the abuses in frivoulous lawsuits) - - with these provisions -

                                                                                                                                                                1) The issue is the purvue of the states - not the federal government; and

                                                                                                                                                                2) It must be done in a fiscally responsible way.

                                                                                                                                                                No flip-flop, no change of direction - - he has never approved of AHA because of issue # 1. He continues to campaign for its repeal for both issues 1 and 2.

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                                                                                                                                                                Reply#936 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT

                                                                                                                                                                Great post. I think he is really a socially minded conservative which is SO much better then a socialist big government guy.

                                                                                                                                                                  #936.1 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:34 PM EDT
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                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, NOW the etch-a-sketch is going to tout his MA universal health care plan. Forget what he said every day of this year up until now, people. That was just erased.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Reply#937 - Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:52 PM EDT
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